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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on June 24

Rainier Club

Cawston Road Mill, Aylsham

Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 06:49, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jonathan Brown (gridiron football)

5x expanded by Giants27 (talk). Self nom at 01:47, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Norske Intelligenz-Seddeler

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 00:17, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Foreign language hook accepted in good faith. You may want to clarify some of the information in the third paragraph - it isn't entirely clear. Geraldk (talk) 00:50, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 23

Mass drug administration

Created by Lseidlein (talk). Nominated by BorgQueen (talk) at 02:16, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


J. B. Milam

  • ... that Cherokee Chief J. B. Milam funded an expedition to Mexico in 1939 to find the grave of Sequoyah, the inventor of the Cherokee writing system?

5x expanded by Uyvsdi (talk). Self nom at 00:30, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Off-line hook ref accepted in good faith. May want to clarify in the article what a Dawes Roll number is. Geraldk (talk) 00:57, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mass of Saint Gregory

Created by Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 00:27, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and date verified. However, I cannot find the hook in the article. Please point it out. —Mattisse (Talk) 01:12, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Samuel Sutton

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 23:50, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Amador Valley High School

5x expanded by Deltawk (talk). Self nom at 22:35, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • You are required to link and bold the nominated article. I have done this for you. --candle•wicke 22:56, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why has this been nominated several times? Are they alternative choices for the same nomination? --candle•wicke 22:59, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, they are. Deltawk (talk) 23:05, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article went from 9030 characters of prose on the 14th to 12679 characters of prose now. This isn't close to a 5x expansion, it's unlikely such an expansion will happen. Shubinator (talk) 00:12, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rolf Brahde

Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 22:21, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and history verified; Norwegian source taken in good faith. Awadewit (talk) 22:34, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Dasso

  • ... that as GM of the Wenatchee Chiefs, Frank Dasso ran a 1953 promotion where fans could pay whatever they wanted for admission, with game profits exceeding those of any three games so far that season?

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 21:47, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'll see if I can turn this into a double (no pun intended). Alansohn (talk) 05:36, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Phineas and Ferb (video game)

Created by SuperFlash101 (talk). Self nom at 20:13, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

City of Carlisle

5x expanded by User:Jza84 (talk), Nev1 (talk). Self nom at 18:44, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Satan's Harvest Home

Created by Gonzonoir (talk). Self nom at 18:22, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Moon is Blue

5x expanded by LiteraryMaven (talk). Self nom at 17:13, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

De Iniusta Vexacione Willelmi Episcopi Primi

Created by Ealdgyth (talk). Self nom at 15:17, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Success Will Write Apocalypse Across the Sky

Created by Cannibaloki (talk). Self nom at 14:31, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmed, prefer the first option, it provides more detail and is fully backed up by the two references on the applicable sentence. Geraldk (talk) 01:11, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Buildings of Jesus College, Oxford

  • ... that the wooden panelling in the principal's lodgings, one of the buildings of Jesus College, Oxford, was said to have set "a new standard of luxury for the heads of colleges"?

Created by Bencherlite (talk). Self nom at 14:01, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The chapel of Jesus College, Oxford

Alt hook 1: ... that the reredos installed in 1864 in the chapel of Jesus College, Oxford (pictured) has been described variously as "handsome", "somewhat tawdry" and looking like "corned beef"?
Alt hook 2: ... that eleven parts of the buildings of Jesus College, Oxford, including the chapel (pictured), the hall and a boundary wall, are listed buildings?

BencherliteTalk 14:01, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Alt1 is superb. Offline source for that accepted AGF; otherwise the article looks good to go. Gonzonoir (talk) 19:13, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Duguetia tobagensis

Created by Guettarda (talk). Self nom at 05:14, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and date verified. Inaccessible source for hook accepted on good faith. (Hook edited slightly.) —Mattisse (Talk) 01:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Astraeus hygrometricus, Astraeaceae

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 05:04, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and date for both articles verified. Source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 01:23, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Matthias Bernegger

Created by Matthead (talk). Self nom at 00:55, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Seattle Sounders FC

5x expanded by Skotywa (talk). Self nom at 08:27, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • The article had 11076 characters of prose before expansion, and now is a little under 15k, much short of a 5x expansion. Shubinator (talk) 00:20, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 22

Gay Bowel Syndrome

Created by Thisglad (talk). Nominated by BorgQueen (talk) at 02:28, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Tidens Tegn, Rolf Thommessen

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 20:58, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and date for both articles verified. Norwegian source for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 01:27, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Michel T. Halbouty

  • ... that Michel T. Halbouty was a wildcatter who was credited with discovering more than 50 oil and gas fields, though he twice declared bankruptcy?

Created by Plazak (talk). Nominated by Clerks (talk) at 19:31, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wayne L. Horvitz, Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service (USA)

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:09, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wilsonville Memorial Park

Stein Homestead Barn at Wilsonville Memorial Park
Stein Homestead Barn at Wilsonville Memorial Park

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 06:32, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and creation date fine, facts verified or sourced to offline references. Looks good. Jamie☆S93 17:11, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Artocarpeae

Created by Guettarda (talk). Self nom at 06:16, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 01:32, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Big twenty township

Created by Sssss snake (talk). Nominated by 66.30.45.255 (talk) at 01:55, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • No it isn't. The western half of the U.S.–Canada border is mostly at 49 degrees north, and Big Twenty Township is about 47 1/2 degrees north. The article says "It is the northernmost township in the United States except for Angle Inlet, Minnesota, and parts of Alaska." But that isn't true either – although not every state has townships, North Dakota has townships and Minnesota has other townships near the Canadian border. The hook's reference in the article mentions only the northernmost point in Maine, not the U.S. Art LaPella (talk) 06:03, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Papal income tax

Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 22:45, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

World Hypertension Day

Created by Madhero88 (talk). Self nom at 22:05, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 01:35, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Asian Socialist Conference

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 22:02, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Please format your references properly. Gatoclass (talk) 17:04, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of Gold Glove Award winners at shortstop

Created by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 21:24, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

KPBA (defunct)

5x expanded by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 20:19, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vestararius

  • ... that the vestararius managed both the wardrobe and money of the pope from the 8th to 11th centuries?

Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 20:00, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Felicisimo Ampon

  • ... that Felicisimo Ampon was the first and only Filipino tennis player ever to make it to the quarter-finals of the French Open back in the 1950s? and there's never been a Filipino player ever made it that high in Grand Slam tennis ever since...

Created by Donmar (talk). Self nom at 16:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ingvald Smith-Kielland

Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 15:41, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Andvord (born 1886)

Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 15:41, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pigeon Island National Park

Pigeon Island national park

Created by Chanakal (talk). Self nom at 15:28, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Verified (maybe an alternative word to "best" though?) --candle•wicke 22:17, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Centipede (band)

5x expanded by Bruce1ee (talk). Self nom at 12:22, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • A previous version [1] stated that there were more than 50 members, and in fact there are 55 members listed (all of whom played on the album Septober Energy). I'd recommend changing the article and the hook to read "more than 50." (Or how about "50 musicians and 5 vocalists"?) —Offenbach (talk) 19:26, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would like to say that Centipede had more than 50 members, but all the references I've found say it was 50 ([2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7]). My understanding is that Centipede had 50 members at their debut performance at the Lyceum, and that later 55 musicians were used to record the album. --Bruce1eetalk 06:00, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • As per the article talk page, I've adjusted the hook to say "with more than 50 members". --Bruce1eetalk 07:14, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Donnchadh, Earl of Carrick

Donnchadh's seal

5x expanded by Deacon of Pndapetzim (talk). Self nom at 11:08, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lutetium tantalate

Example of phosphorescence

Created by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 09:59, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Phoemela Baranda

  • 2 sources - one is a blog, the other is the FHM website. --candle•wicke 22:10, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've added two more sources both are news paper articles, one is in a native version though, please use google to translate contents. Also FHM is the body that gives the award, isn't that the best site for reference? but never the less I added 3 more references, plus I also added the magazine which contained the source. Hook now has 6 references. --TitanOne (talk) 03:05, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Atlantic flyingfish

Created by Ryan shell (talk). Self nom at 05:04, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that the Atlantic flyingfish can glide 3 to 12 meters in the air after jumping out of the water?
AGF verified. –Juliancolton | Talk 15:00, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 21

Jean Boyle

Thakin Lwin, Burma Socialist Party

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 22:23, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alan Wagner

Created by Singingdaisies (talk). Self nom at 19:40, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Andvord (born 1920), Richard Andvord

Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 15:58, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Frank J. Low

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Did you mean "... a Learjet to show that the planets ... " or "... a Learjet that proved the planets ... "? You couldn't have meant both. Art LaPella (talk) 05:56, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pink Panthers

(5x expanded, self-nom --candle•wicke 02:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC) )[reply]

Erika Cheetham

  • ... that Erika Cheetham… ? [I don't know—please help me think of something. ]

Created by CharlotteWebb. Self-nom at 20:55, 21 June 2009 (UTC) [reply]

I would use the sentence from the lead (... that Erika Cheetham was an English medieval scholar etc.), Alternatively you could say that she posited that Nostradamus predicted the establishment of the modern State of Israel or the rise of Hitler. Richerman (talk) 00:10, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
A couple of suggestions:

:*... that Erika Cheetham's book The Man Who Saw Tomorrow was the inspiration for an Orson Welles film by the same name?

Length, date, and refs for the above hooks are verified. decltype (talk) 11:30, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Last one sounds good, let's go with that. Thanks. Hey can I get a copy-edit—I sometimes tend to omit needful words and not notice it even upon re-reading… — CharlotteWebb 16:31, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I should make myself clear here. I would prefer not to mention the Orson Welles film in the tag-line due to major discrepancies between the sources pertaining to it. Cf. [8], [9]. Pending further research I've done my best to write in general terms and avoid adding any contradicted information to the article. I may try to contact The New York Times sometime this week, namely their obituarist Holcomb B. Noble who appears to still be a semi-active contributor (having eulogized Milton Friedman in 2006 and Hortense Calisher earlier this year). — CharlotteWebb 17:41, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Andachtsbilder

5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 20:04, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length (5x expansion) date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:43, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of Olympic medalists in snowboarding

5x expanded by Scorpion0422 (talk). Self nom at 18:54, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

All set. Prefer the first hook, more interesting. Geraldk (talk) 01:44, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Christian Zheng Sheng College

Christian Zheng Sheng College

Created by Raphaelmak (talk). Self nom at 17:43, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I like ALT2 better than either of the others, and ALT1 better than the original hook. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:27, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • On the contrary, I think ALT1 is more attractive to readers. OhanaUnitedTalk page 15:51, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • As creator of the article and the hooks, I would prefer ALT2 as I think it is more interesting to readers and serve its function as a hook better. Also I have removed the word "must" as it is not mentioned in the article. --:Raphaelmak: [talk] [contribs] 08:58, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bernardo Peres da Silva

Created by Deepak D'Souza (talk). Self nom at 15:34, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Article was created in my userspace and moved to mainspace on 21st June. --Deepak D'Souza 15:39, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • ARticle doesn't mention Goa's "451 year history". Gatoclass (talk) 17:13, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Douglas SASSTO

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 14:53, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Marion Coakes

Created by Rambo's Revenge (talk). Self nom at 14:48, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

W. J. M. Lokubandara

W. J. M. Lokubandara

  • Comment: Can anyone think of a better wording for this? BTW, in the article it's given with the result (110/109) rather than 1 vote.

Created by Chamal N (talk). Self nom at 14:52, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

St Mary's Church, Mold

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 12:36, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Not sure who added the second hook, which might be more "exciting" than the first; although the first is more direct, and I think it makes the point. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 07:41, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
PS The second hook is not in the article! Peter I. Vardy (talk) 08:18, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

NCAA Season 85 basketball tournaments

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 11:47, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I don't understand ALT1. Who are these guest teams and where did they come from? All three of them are redlinks and not identified further. Are they teams from other leagues, or teams from other countries, or what? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 19:02, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • These are teams from other leagues and they compete like regular members but they're called guests. Currently, only UAAP (below) and NCAA varsity teams have articles while those from the other leagues don't have any. Two of the guest teams' schools have articles while AUF doesn't have one yet. –Howard the Duck 05:24, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The AUF article is too short, and I'll be making the EAC article probably later, and it might be long enough to warrant boldfacing. –Howard the Duck 08:46, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

UAAP Season 72 basketball tournaments

  • Comment: If accepted, a date of July 11 will be nice.

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 11:47, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Article only has 1331B readable prose size. Prose portions need to be expanded further to meet DYK criteria. Geraldk (talk) 01:25, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Expanded. –Howard the Duck 04:55, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Clayton Powell Jr. State Office Building

Created by MBisanz (talk). Self nom at 08:33, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Clan Macdonald of Sleat

5x expanded by Celtus (talk). Self nom at 07:00, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Your hook is 220 characters long. Please shorten it to the 200 character maximum. Ottava Rima (talk) 21:37, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Congress for Democracy

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Self nom at 01:49, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mercedes-Benz W25

Created by Matthead (talk). Self nom at 02:14, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Alt: ... that the Mercedes-Benz W25 was withdrawn from the 1934 Belgian GP as the Belgian customs asked the German teams to pay 180,000 francs duty for their alcohol based special fuel? -- Matthead  Discuß   12:46, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 20

1901 Homestead Library & Athletic Club football team

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 06:42, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pete Overfield

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 06:32, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chennai Central Prison

was 172 years old when demolition of its premises began in June 2009?

Created by Like I Care (talk). Self nom at 15:56, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. Post Office (Hudson, New York)

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 15:24, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kevin O'Donoghue

Created by Gaia Octavia Agrippa (talk). Self nom at 22:13, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Welsh did a substantial amount of work; I am adding him as well.
  • There are, right now, no third party sources besides the Ministry of Defence. To me, those are not enough third party sources to put on the main page; could you find newspaper stories or such? NW (Talk) 00:12, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dominant white (horse)

A thoroughbred stallion exhibiting one form of dominant white

  • ... that dominant white, a collection of related genetic conditions, causes horses to be born with no skin pigmentation and completely or partly white coats (example pictured)?

Created by Countercanter (talk). Nominated by Hassocks5489 (talk) at 18:29, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

East-West League

Created by BRMo (talk). Self nom at 01:18, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chitradurga Fort

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Mattisse (talk) at 20:21, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Aso Mining forced labor controversy

Aso Taro

Created/expanded by Cla68 (talk). Nominated by BorgQueen (talk) at 09:54, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

John McLean (American football)

John McLean)

  • ... that the 1906 firing of John McLean (pictured) for paying an athlete to play college football was called "the biggest scandal in the history of Missouri athletics"?

5x expanded by cbl62 (talk). Cbl62 (talk) 09:37, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nymphaea nouchali

Blue water lily (Nymphaea stellata/Nymphaea nouchali)

Created/expanded by Xufanc (talk). Nominated by BorgQueen (talk) at 09:19, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Demographics of Japan before Meiji Restoration

  • ... that the population of Japan in 400 AD is estimated by two different sources to have been 1.5 million?

Created by Aurichalcum (talk). Nominated by BorgQueen (talk) at 09:13, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mount Banda Banda

Created by Poyt448 (talk). Self nom at 07:20, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • 1169 characters of prose. Please expand to at least 1500. Shubinator (talk) 19:34, 21 June 2009 (UTC) Article increased as requested; also added more inline citations Poyt448 (talk) 06:21, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stanley R. Jaffe

  • It's still 275 as we count them. You probably misinterpreted Q1 where it says, "... the text as it displays to the public (not from the edit screen which contains wikitext) ... " Count the text as it displays to the public, including the words "Stanley R. Jaffe", "Paramount Television", "Paramount Communications", "Brandon Tartikoff", and "Paramount Pictures". The reason counting from the edit page doesn't give the same result is because it contains "wikitext" and therefore includes the symbols [, ], ', and similar characters that don't show. Whether you agree with my interpretation of my own rule or not, I can assure you that's how we count everybody else. Art LaPella (talk) 06:03, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • No... what I misinterpreted was WP:Did you know/Additional rules where it states "If your hook introduces more than one article, you can do a basic calculation by subtracting the number of characters in the bolded character string for each additional new article beyond the first. If having done that the hook length is still 200 characters or less, it is probably an acceptable length.", thinking the wikilinks were intoductions to other articles. Luckily, I provided alternate hooks... as well as a shortened version of the original. Please feel free to use whichever one you feel creates the greatest interest in the article. Thank you. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 22:10, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Created by Drmies (talk), MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 04:12, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Here's a trimmed hook. But I'd be happy if either alternate served as well. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 19:19, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

21st Army Tank Brigade

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Self nom at 00:24, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • You need to actually include the nominated article in the hook. Manxruler (talk) 00:40, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Washington State Route 113

A 1966 map showing the original route of Washington State Route 113.

5x expanded by ComputerGuy (talk). Self nom at 20:05, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose - reuse of highway numbers is extremely common. In addition, the former route should be covered in Washington State Route 20, which it became part of in 1973. --NE2 20:15, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • How about something relating to how the roadway became a state highway in 1937 and was given back to the county in 1955, only to be re-added in 1991? --NE2 20:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • ALT:
  • ... that the current route of Washington State Route 113 was given to the county in 1955, only to be given back to the state in 1991? –CG 17:07, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • Better, but "the current route" is unnecessary. --NE2 16:50, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Finalized version:

Dan Thomas

5x expanded by JGHowes (talk). Self nom at 19:51, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Praise the Names of the Musical Assassins

5x expanded by Cannibaloki (talk). Self nom at 17:16, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Your hook is 209 characters long. Please shorten it to the 200 character maximum. Ottava Rima (talk) 21:39, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1932 Colgate football team

Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 17:04, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

HMS Lively (G40)

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 15:06, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999

Kendrick Moxon

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 08:59, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Abu Dhabi Media Company

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 01:22, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Washington State Route 204

5x expanded by ComputerGuy (talk). Self nom at 01:00, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Not a 5x expansion according to Dr pda's script. –Juliancolton | Talk 03:14, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • 1. The fact is uncited. 2. You're confusing 204 with Sunnyside Boulevard,[10] which are the same road for a couple hundred feet at the south end. 3. When I was a kid, 204 ("the road to Frontier Village") was part of the way to Grandma's house. I can't imagine anyone calling it Snohomish–Marysville because as you noted, it doesn't go there. Art LaPella (talk) 04:46, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 19

Liam Jurrah

5x expanded by The-Pope (talk). Self nom at 13:25, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Holospira

cross section of the shell of Holospira elizabethae

  • ... that internal column of the shell of snail Holospira (pictured) is hollow?

Created by Snek01 (talk). Self nom at 10:05, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

--Snek01 (talk) 10:09, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oldřich Nový

Created by Vejvančický (talk). Self nom at 08:31, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Aloisius Joseph Muench

5x expanded by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 19:44, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SN 2002cx

Created by Falcorian (talk). Self nom at 00:43, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: The hook is based on the last paragraph of the Spectra section, using Li et al., 2003 p. 24 as it's source. --Falcorian (talk) 00:46, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nanuli Shevardnadze

Created by Piorus (talk) and significantly expanded by Kober (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 16:05, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ixlu

  • ... that a Maya ruler of Ixlu, a small archaeological site in Guatemala, claimed to be the lord of the major Maya city of Tikal?

5x expanded by Simon Burchell (talk). Self nom at 08:28, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bly Ranger Station

Created by Orygun (talk). Self nom at 02:28, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

First Presbyterian Church of Marcellus

Created by Mitchazenia (talk). Self nom at 22:09, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Georgian Socialist-Federalist Revolutionary Party

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 21:09, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Odd Man Out: A Year on the Mound with a Minor League Misfit

  • ... that despite its author keeping detailed journals of his experiences, the baseball memoir Odd Man Out was criticized by many people named in the book as being factually inaccurate?

Created by Kuyabribri (talk). Self nom at 20:09, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Burn Bridge

  • ... that the village known as Burn Bridge could have received its name either due to a historic fire which destroyed its main bridge, or due to a Burn that runs just south of the town?

5x expanded by Storye book (talk). Nominated by Excirial (talk) at 18:23, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note I am not the most proficient person at creating hooks, so if this one contains grammar or other issues please forgive that. Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 18:23, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Why not pick a hook that's less dubious (cited though it may be)?--Wetman (talk) 20:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I tried to find a hook that would look interesting on the main page; As the article has a rather local scope finding something that would interest a larger public is rather difficult. If you have a suggestion about what would make a better hook, im all open :). Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 08:50, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Joel Selvin

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 17:55, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wushan Man

  • ... that Wushan Man, a species of Homo, was identified from a fossil jaw found south of the Yangtze River but is now thought to come from an extinct ape that lived in China two million years ago?
  • Comment: I am not good at writing hocks so this might be bettered. Also I am not sure whether to mention Russell Ciochon who has had this change of mind in Nature. There is a piece in National Geographic about this

5x expanded by LittleHow (talk). Self nom at 16:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Your hook is 213 characters long. Please shorten it to the 200 character maximum. Ottava Rima (talk) 21:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have shortened it by removing mention of its actual distance south from the Yangtze-- I make it now 195 characters.

Coleman Coker

Created by Mifter (talk). Self nom at 16:30, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

St Deiniol's Church, Hawarden

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 15:28, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Dead tree source taken in good faith, good to go! --Falcorian (talk) 01:57, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mascara Dorada

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self nom at 11:20, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mubariz Mansimov

  • 649 characters of prose. Please expand to at least 1500. Also, please do not copy and paste DYK nominations; use the template instead. Shubinator (talk) 23:51, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kelly Misa

John Mayberry, Jr., John Mayberry

5x expanded by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 01:40, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I know that this hook is 210 characters. This can easily be rectified by removed the piped link to the list of second-generation MLB players, but that list is a very interesting part of this hook and I feel it should be included. If not, I understand, but I don't know what the exceptions are. Thanks. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 01:40, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Another note: I've included an alt-hook, same issue with being a little oversized (213 char), but same rectification issue, and I think this one is a little more hooky. Since I still have some time, I might also be able to get around this issue by getting John Mayberry up to DYK level too. I'll be working on that this evening. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 11:44, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment KV, I'm not a DYK approver, but I believe the hook length count is based on "the text as it displays to the public (not from the edit screen which contains wikitext)" (see Wikipedia:Did you know/Hook length), so both of your hooks should be fine length-wise. I'm old enough to remember Mayberry Sr. when he was playing in the minors! Good luck with this one.--Arxiloxos (talk) 15:21, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
smacks forehead I can't believe I never knew that before! I have killed myself over and over trying to get my hooks under 200 characters of wikitext. This makes my life so much easier, thanks! Regardless, I'm still expanding the John Mayberry Sr. article and would like to double it up with this one, so I will do my best to get that done tonight. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 16:09, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
OK, here is another alternate; the second page has been expanded enough to qualify now. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 17:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on June 18

Helena Palaiologina

Created by Jeanne boleyn (talk). Nominated by User:Jeanne boleyn (talk) at 06:46, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Please add full source information in the notes. I cannot tell if the source for the hook is reliable or not at the present time. Awadewit (talk) 00:27, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stylianos Zaoutzes and Basileopator

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 15:10, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Where does it say that he was "one of only two people" in the article (I just can't find it - sorry!)? Awadewit (talk) 01:16, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is in the Basileopator article, and the ref for it is no. 3 (Tougher pp. 99-100). The two articles were written together. Constantine ✍ 01:26, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Natalya Sats

Commissar of Education Anatoly Lunacharsky to start a theater for the children? Created by Mhym (talk). Self nom at 23:20, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment I've tweaked a little bit of MOS (see abbreviations). Cheers, I'mperator 13:05, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Unreliable sources used: autobiography of subject (should be used sparingly - see WP:PRIMARY) and findagrave, which is user-generated content and not reliable. Awadewit (talk) 01:24, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Trans-Alaska Pipeline System

  • ... that the pipe in the Trans-Alaska Pipeline cost just $100 million, but the project as a whole cost more than $8 billion?

5x expanded by JKBrooks85 (talk). Self nom at 11:11, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Great hook, AGF on offline source for the 100 million estimate (I found [11] which confirms it). The page was not 5x expanded, going from 9kB to 20kB, but I think it should be added anyway. I will, however, wait for another editor to voice their opinion before passing this. --Odie5533 (talk) 14:38, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

2001 Gator Bowl

5x expanded by JKBrooks85 (talk). Self nom at 06:16, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hook and length verified. Geraldk (talk) 00:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 17

Limusaurus

Limusaurus

Created by ArthurWeasley (talk). Self nom at 21:19, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps "dinosaur hands" and "bird wings"? Or "a dinosaur hand" and "a bird wing"? Firsfron of Ronchester 21:27, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No inline citation and the article needs some copyediting. I read the paragraphs on the hand and it has some glaring grammar errors. Awadewit (talk) 16:58, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Copyedited. Art LaPella (talk) 23:59, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sibudu Cave

  • ... that in Sibudu Cave, 40 km north of Durban in South Africa, have been found the earliest example of a bone arrow and a needle (61,000 BP), and the use of compound glue (72,000 BP)?

Created by LittleHow (talk). Self nom at 18:37, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I don't read scientific papers very often, so I just wondering if you could point me to where it says "earliest" (or the equivalent) in the source? Thanks! Awadewit (talk) 17:07, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bar Council of Ireland

Created/expanded by Masteredmond (talk). Nominated by ImperatorExercitus (talk) at 14:17, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • ALT1... that although founded in 1897, the Bar Council of Ireland had no constitution until 1984? (This hook would required a citation for the constitution information found in the article.) Awadewit (talk) 17:14, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well, this link to the Constitution of the Bar of Ireland and the premable to the constitution both say that the previous constitution was adopted on 20 February 1914, 70 years earlier than 1984 - is there a reason why the article says 1984? BencherliteTalk 22:47, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

U. Grant Miller Library

Created by GrapedApe (talk). Self nom at 19:46, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • All but one of the references are from W&J College itself, and that only mentions the library obliquely. I'm therefore left to wonder what makes this library notable. Gatoclass (talk) 07:06, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Could you specify what "the money" is referring to? Cheers, I'mperator 16:18, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Left a message on the user's talk page. Awadewit (talk) 17:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ruhuna cricket team

Created by Chanakal (talk). Self nom at 13:04, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

John G.F. Francis

Created by Jheald (talk). Self nom at 12:08, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Look at the calibre of people writing to it. Gene Golub was right at the the top of the tree when it comes to methods for matrix computations. Also note that NA-Net is a moderated, edited weekly digest of academic announcements, not a free-for-all discussion. Jheald (talk) 08:21, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Y Ahora Te Vas

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 04:18, 17 June 2009 (UTC). Self nom at 04:17, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Congregation Emanu-El (Victoria, British Columbia)

  • ... The oldest surviving synagogue in Canada. The oldest surviving synagogue on the West Coast of North America. And probably one of the few synagogues to ever dedicate a new building to music played by the band of a 28-gun Royal Navy Frigate

Expanded form a two-sentence stub by User:Historicist and User:Skookum1). Self nom

Expanded form a two-sentence stub by User:Historicist and User:Skookum1). Self nom

Carol Lewis

Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self nom at 03:01, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if this was high profile news in the States but I've never heard it before. Also, would an alternate hook including that she is Carl Lewis's sister be better? I omitted it as it was getting rather clunky that way. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)WIKIPROJECT ATHLETICS NEEDS YOU! 03:04, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jennifer Olayvar

--TitanOne (talk) 01:48, 17 June 2009 (UTC) Self nom.[reply]

ALT... that choreographer Sergey Vikulov selected three lead couples where Jennifer Olayvar was one of the dancers chosen to perform in La Fille Mal Gardée?

Articles created/expanded on June 16

Baulk road

A baulk road crossing

Created by Geof Sheppard (talk). Self nom at 13:28, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • There appears to be multiple unsourced paragraphs, please fix that.--Giants27 (c|s) 17:11, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Malia (Hawaiian canoe)

Created by Joel Bradshaw (talk). Self nom at 03:40, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Taro Ichihara

Created by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 03:05, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Quartermaster Award (Boy Scouts of America)

Created by Stnfll (talk). Nominated by Rlevse (talk) at 02:20, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anselm of Meissen

Created by Matthead (talk). Self nom at 20:27, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Libočany

Church in Libočany

  • ... that Liebotschaner Beer produced by some US breweries was originally brewed in and named after the Czech village of Libočany (pictured)?

Created and self nom by --Aloysius (talk) 18:31, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Haimo (dapifer)

Created by Ealdgyth (talk). Self nom at 16:55, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • The article mentions only one historian, though :) Anyway, it's good to go with offline ref accepted AGF. Chamal talk 02:14, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Moturu Udayam

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 15:48, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Was this for some public cause or something like that? It's an extraordinary claim so it would be good if we can have some more details about it. Just saying she peddled a bicycle is likely to raise some eyebrows. Anyway, the article could do with some improvement; try to expand those one-sentence paragraphs or combine them together. It looks a little untidy the way it is. Chamal talk 02:07, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kumana National Park

A herd of elephants bathing

Created by Chanakal (talk). Self nom at 15:26, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • The reference also says 9,000 to 11,000 km, so maybe it's measuring a curved path. It can't be a straight line: according to this calculator, the distance from the park to the furthest tip of Siberia, which is Cape Dezhnev the nearby Big Diomede Island according to some original research on a globe, is 10,17210,209 km. Art LaPella (talk) 23:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Both facts verified. I think ALT2 is best, and we can also avoid that problem of the birds not flying straight :) Chamal talk 08:43, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lockheed Star Clipper

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 13:57, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • - a great read, but the hook and a majority of the article is unreferenced. —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 02:06, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ernest May (historian)

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 13:45, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Di Noia

Created by 193.63.81.140 (talk). Nominated by 龗 (talk) at 11:40, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

V.J.P. Saldanha

Created by Kensplanet (talk). Self nom at 10:45, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Polymorphs of silicon carbide

Created by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 07:38, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Eucalyptus crebra

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 05:38, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Refs 5 and 6 need to be written out, otherwise source, length, and history verified. Awadewit (talk) 01:12, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Debo Hacerlo (song)

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 04:01, 16 June 2009 (UTC). Self nom at 04:00, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 15

May Brahe

  • ... that May Brahe was the only Australian woman composer to win both local and international recognition before World War II?

Created by JackofOz (talk). Nominated by Sk8er5000 (talk) at 02:06, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • This sentence is copied directly from the source. I checked the article and saw a few other instances of direct copying without quotation marks. I would suggest that the editor rework the prose so that it does not resemble the original source and/or put quotation marks around directly copied phrases. See this dispatch on avoiding plagiarism. Awadewit (talk) 20:50, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Prospero Amatong

Created by Scanlan (talk). Self nom at 19:35, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ALT
You are absolutely correct. There should be some kind of reference to the Philippines. I added Filippino to the description for clarity. Any other suggestions on better wording? Scanlan (talk) 23:42, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No. Others will soon review your hook in a more subjective way, as described at A2. Art LaPella (talk) 06:03, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Iceland–Norway relations

Created by LibStar (talk), Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 08:46, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sacajawea Peak

Wallowa Mountains

Created by Pfly (talk). Nominated by Aboutmovies (talk) at 06:46, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Don't know, I didn't create the article, but I have added a source from The Mazamas group who are the climbing experts in the state and a GNIS search (though I don't know if the URL will re-create the search, but the parameters are also given). Aboutmovies (talk) 07:45, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

São Gabriel (ship)

Created by Ekem (talk). Self nom at 22:06, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • - A few problems. First, the article needs a copyedit; sentences like "On the leg towards Cape of Good Hope, the supply ship was lost along the east coast of Africa" need some TLC before this can go on the main page. Second, the first hook is unclear—Dias did not 'build' the ship himself, he commissioned others to do it for him (I would assume that, at least?). Third, the second hook seems to be of trivial importance to the ship. Surely a better hook could be made up... —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 22:30, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Abraham Bradley, Jr.

5x expanded by BusterD (talk). Self nom at 12:40, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Orly's Draw-A-Story

Created by 03md (talk). Self nom at 11:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note that I found a case of WP:Plagarism within the article[12]. I don't have further time at the moment, but if someone could check this out further; that would be great. NW (Talk) 19:57, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The bulk of this article is unsourced gameplay and the 2-3 of the 5 sources are unreliable. Awadewit (talk) 00:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Which sources are unreliable. BNET is a well-known business website, one of the links is to an official awards website and the others all discuss the gameplay. 03md 07:38, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Superkids.com, kidsclick.com, and allgame.com. If you can show how these sources are reliable, please do. I would suggest that you work on finding more sources for this article and expanding it. The sections, other than gameplay, are extremely short and do not give the reader much information. Awadewit (talk) 17:39, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • allgame is affiliated with allmusic, a resource that is used in most music articles, including featured articles, and I presume it works along the same rationale. I am not sure about the other two. 03md 10:31, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Since it is a different website, I don't think we can presume. We still have to investigate. Awadewit (talk) 02:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've had a look, and the sites SuperKids and allgame seem to be reliable enough. They both say that the published information is verified. But Kidsclick is just a commercial website, and I don't think we can depend on that for referencing. Chamal talk 08:35, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lawless v Ireland

  • ... that Lawless v Ireland (1957-61) was the first International court case decision involving in interpreting International human rights law, the first one filed against a country and was refered to the European Court of Human Rights?

Created by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk). Self nom at 19:38, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • 1104 characters of prose. Please expand to at least 1500. Also, the hook is long at 231 characters. Shubinator (talk) 00:45, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are many convoluted sentences in the article that make it almost unreadable. Shubinator (talk) 14:57, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

STSAT-2

Created by SriMesh (talk). Self nom at 04:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anaconda Road Massacre

5x expanded by Geraldk (talk). Self nom at 02:11, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I have often added those strange-looking commas after states, and someone removed one here. If the commas aren't a consensus, I wish someone would change the "In geographic names" section of the comma article. See also [13]. Art LaPella (talk) 01:42, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • How is it a massacre if only 1 person was killed? Are you sure this the correct terminology, and used in all the references? Chamal talk 04:54, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Utah Utes football under Ron McBride

  • ... that in 1992, the Utah Utes football team, coached by Ron McBride, ended a 28-year bowl game drought by appearing in the 1992 Copper Bowl?

5x expanded by DeFaultRyan (talk). Self nom at 19:59, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Legitimate concerns, but here's what I think. First, there is no hard and fast rule for the type of grouping. Several other major college football programs have their seasonal articles arranged by coach (Georgia Bulldogs football under Mark Richt, Penn State Nittany Lions football under Joe Paterno (in the Big Ten), Notre Dame Fighting Irish football under Bob Davie, Oklahoma Sooners football under Bob Stoops, and Minnesota Golden Gophers football under Glen Mason, etc). Personally, I prefer this approach, as it seems to provide a more coherent focus for the article, rather than just an arbitrary decade-based grouping of seasons (why not 1991-2000? or 3 year groupings?). If it was up to me, I'd change the existing decade groupings to coach groupings, as it seems more like a more discrete topic (the tenure of a coach), rather than just a tabulation of data. Speaking of which, so far the article is still a bit tabular, but the prose is a work in progress, and given the scope of the article, it's going to take a little more work to increase it substantially to the level of, say, the Notre Dame article (but hey, it's a new article). Some of the seasons, like 1994, will surely merit individual articles that will be linked to via {{main}}, but other seasons, like 1997 or 2000, just don't have that much going for them as a standalone article, hence the grouping into a single article that can grow into something well-sourced and solid. DeFaultRyan 19:59, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 14

Haili Church

Created by W Nowicki (talk). Self nom at 00:10, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Verified everything (from either on or offline sources) except the flash floods, could you please give a more precise reference for that? Gatoclass (talk) 12:33, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Chapter III of the Coan book describes flash floods: http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/GG/HCV/COAN/III.html about half way through, although he does not use that term, and he is on a "tour" at that point, not at the Church. The nomination form says the earlier churches were replaced with a building that "could weather the climate". The Hilo, Hawaii page has a reference to the climate, which includes heavy rains of the "windward" side of a tropical island. They are not the same kind of flash floods that happen in the southwestern mainland USA for example. How about just then say "heavy rains"? W Nowicki (talk) 17:59, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Given the lack of a definitive reference, I suggest just dropping the "heavy rains" bit altogether. Even without it, you will still have an excellent hook! Gatoclass (talk) 04:16, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well I thought I did give you a reference to the "heavy rains"? I can add another one I suppose to a climate web site, sigh. W Nowicki (talk) 20:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Surviving "heavy rains" is not very interesting anyhow. Most buildings are capable of surviving "heavy rains". Given that you don't have a definitive ref. for the flash floods, I think it would be better if you just dropped that from the hook as it will be more effective without it in my opinion. Gatoclass (talk) 05:46, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
But there are plenty of references to the heavy tropical rains in Hilo. Please read the article. Maybe modern european-style buildings survive them now, but not many did 150 years ago in Hawaii where the roofs and walls were thatched. Perhaps only three or four buildings in the entire town have lasted that long. That is one reason why it merits being on the NRHP. W Nowicki (talk) 20:35, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Garfield School

Created by Wadester16 (talk). Self nom at 23:45, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Using the word "first" implies there is a second, but the source says it is the only - what about changing the hook to say "only". Or, perhaps you could mention that it was used as a schoolhouse until the late 1950s instead. I thought that was more interesting, in fact, since it is a two-room schoolhouse. Awadewit (talk) 17:29, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • That source was from that time. Since then, another schoolhouse in the town was added to the NRHP. So it was the only one until last year. Now it was the first. See below. wadester16 17:45, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Verifiable or not, Brunswick is not a well-known place, and I can't imagine very many main-page viewers caring enough about that hook fact to click on the article. Here's an alternative suggestion:
  • alt1 ... that the Garfield School in Brunswick, New York, (pictured) is considered unusual unique for its time period because it was not built from a template found in an architectural plan book? --Orlady (talk) 01:18, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hmm, I guess I don't care that much. I think mine is better mainly because it reference NRHP, which many people do identify and find interesting. It also states it as being the first in its area. wadester16 04:23, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think ALT1 is better, too, because it is not so local and it makes more sense to have the picture accompanying it. Orlady, did you verify the ref? Awadewit (talk) 02:04, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • That fact is stated on page 11 of reference #1 (first full paragraph). I would suggest we use the word "unique" rather than "unusual". Kosher? (I struck and replaced above - feel free to decide against that idea). wadester16 05:38, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dziwożona

Created by Malick78 (talk). Self nom at 22:21, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Shubinator is thinking of D2. Juliancolton's point is that his Polish references apparently retell the entire legend, not specific sentences. Art LaPella (talk) 23:36, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I was also thinking of bigger guidelines, like notability. Especially since this is mythology, and I can't read the ref, it takes more than one reference to convince me the article isn't original research. Shubinator (talk) 23:45, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've added some inline citations, but the article should be more encyclopedic - currently it describes the mythical demon as a real, existing being, ex. "At the risk of becoming one of these demons after death were mostly midwives, old maids, unmarried mothers, pregnant women ...". --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:07, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've changed the tenses to make it less 'real', more 'it is said' style:) And other weird phrases have been cleared up... Hope it's okay now. Malick78 (talk) 22:41, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I just did an online translation (which are known to be unreliable), and while it discusses "breasts great so and long", it doesn't say anything about washing her clothes with them as far as I can tell. –Juliancolton | Talk 16:40, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"piersi ich są tak wielkie, że je zamiast pralników używają, piorąc swoją bieliznę" - "their breasts are so large, that instead of pounding sticks, they use them [the breasts] while washing their linen". Malick78 (talk) 21:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • The hook is based on a story told by Lucjan Siemieński (published in 1845). Please take a look at a different, but also mid 19th century depiction of Dziwożona as an attractive ghost from the woodcut by painter Jan Styfi based on an earlier art study by Henryk Pillati. --Poeticbent talk 17:11, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Are you saying one depiction is more representative of the myth than the other? Please be a bit clearer. The Siemienski version is found on many pages on the Polish web. (Btw, for other editors... Poeticbent and I have had a couple of altercations in the past. Just so you know there may be some history here...) Malick78 (talk) 19:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rise to Power (Monstrosity album)

Created by Cannibaloki (talk). Self nom at 18:37, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Zana e malit

  • ... that in Albanian folklore the zana, mountain fairies revered for their beauty and courage, are said to have watched approvingly over Albanian protests against the 1878 Treaty of San Stefano?

Created by Flokarti (talk), Gonzonoir (talk). Self nom at 13:02, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Geary Eppley

Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 07:43, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is there an interesting fact that doesn't portray the subject in a negative manner? APK (If You Wanna) 19:07, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Since the subject died 30 years ago, it should be suitable for DYK. You're certainly welcome to suggest something better though. Strikehold (talk) 05:07, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chhatarpur Temple

Created by Mehul trivedi (talk). Nominated by Ekabhishek (talk) at 06:12, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • No cite for the 60 acre claim, also not sure if I saw a mention of Mehrauli in the article either. Gatoclass (talk) 10:42, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How Am I Supposed to Kill You If You Have All the Guns?

(self-nom, created by --candle•wicke 02:49, 14 June 2009 (UTC) )[reply]

  • The second-hand quoted reaction, "They were just like, ‘What is this? What are you talking about? This stuff is disgusting’", was to the whole EP, not the specific elements cited in the hook. Also, the quoted words "electric shocks" and "digital distortion" are those of the reviewer, not Jamie's parents. Factual inaccuracy aside, "mother of punk rock band member doesn't like punk rock" is just not that surprising a hook. - Dravecky (talk) 10:20, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • That can be changed to "that elements such as" then. Or those elements can be removed. I just thought it was phrased in such a way as to lead the reader to wonder what could cause "electric shocks" and "digital distortion" as there are several possibilities. --candle•wicke 16:51, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Little Red Schoolhouse (Brunswick, New York)

Created by Wadester16 (talk). Self nom at 01:59, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • My first reaction to that hook is "who cares?" Here's a possible alternate:
Second one's better. Daniel Case (talk) 05:16, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I do like ALT1. No electricity or plumbing for a school in the 1950s is a genuine surprise. The only problem I see is that the hook sentence is not directly cited. - Dravecky (talk) 10:24, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
 Checking... wadester16 15:41, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm apparently that fact is not expressly stated in any of the sources (I thought I remembered reading it in its application to NRHP, but I reread it and it's not there). I know it's true but I don't have a document stating it as so. Sorry. wadester16 15:44, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Edward Hanrahan

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 01:50, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

United Kingdom Election Results

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 00:55, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Is this one of the first websites referenced by the UN or the Parliament or something? Why is it interesting that these bodies would reference this website? The reader needs some more context here in order to understand this hook. I looked in the article, but I couldn't find anything. Awadewit (talk) 18:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps you could suggest an alternate hook? Cirt (talk) 19:29, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1:

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 00:55, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested ALT hook, above. Cirt (talk) 19:39, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 13

Jan Władysław Dawid

  • Comment: My first DYK nom. If there are any problems or more expansion/work will need to be undertaken on the article, please let me know ASAP. Also note that the hook I made is valid (reference provided refers to it by alternate name, but it is still the same institute. Also note: There is an image I found to add of him but it is currently being investigated what is the copyright status of the image (the image is in a Polish website, hence can't work my way around). Any help would be appreciated. See talk page of User:Piotrus to give your opinion. Kind regards.

Created by Calaka (talk). Self nom at 10:58, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Stupid question but do the DYK nominations need to be approved (if they are to become DYK) before they go over the 5 day limit? Or once they are nominated, it is a matter of time and there is no rush until it gets approve/not approved? Cheers!Calaka (talk) 11:00, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • No rush until or after they get approved. Once you nominate it here, it will usually stay for several days until it's reviewed and approved, and then some more until it goes up on the main page. You just have to keep an eye on it so if someone raises a problem with it, you can fix it. Chamal talk 11:08, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ah good to know! I will keep an eye over it but wont be expecting the review to be done ASAP. Kind regards.Calaka (talk) 13:00, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for submitting to DYK! I have a few questions. 1) Could you add more information to reference 1, so that if a reader wanted to find it, it would be easy for them? 2) You wrote above that the reference provided refers to "Flying University" by a different name - what name is that? 3) Could you add an inline citation next to this information in the article? Thanks! Awadewit (talk) 18:43, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

John Ernsting

Created by Gaia Octavia Agrippa (talk). Self nom at 20:55, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • - the article says he was a "visiting professor", not a lecturer... —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 22:00, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I can't find whether he was a professor or a lecturer. The sources are ambiguous on this issue; they mention both. Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk | Sign 22:19, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 12

Real Racing (video game)

  • Comment: A new game so maybe relevant at this time

Created by Ismashed (talk). Self nom at 15:42, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The bulk of this article is about gameplay. Excluding the lead, this article has five sentences that are not part of gameplay. Can we expand the other sections? Also, the references need to include more information so that reader knows where they come from and when without clicking on them. Consider using {{cite web}}. Awadewit (talk) 18:25, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ISO 898

Created by Wizard191 (talk). Self nom at 01:15, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • We need to cite more than the standard itself. Otherwise, this is too close to OR. — Jake Wartenberg 12:40, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Do you mean for the hook or for the article in general? Wizard191 (talk) 20:47, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The article is cited almost entirely to the standard itself. — Jake Wartenberg 16:45, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see the problem. WP:PRIMARY states that reliable primary sources are ok. Wizard191 (talk) 17:25, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think the issue is if this standard is really "notable" enough to merit an encyclopedia article, then maybe someone has written something about the standard. The world is full of ISO standards that nobody cares about any more. Was there, say, a background document written justifying why the standard was needed? Or issues with previous ones, etc. I see your first ref might qualify for one. Any trade publications for example, talking about it? W Nowicki (talk) 20:34, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Again, I don't see the problem. You answered your own question; WP:NOTABILITY doesn't say that more than one third party reliable sources are needed to prove notability. Wizard191 (talk) 01:38, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NOTABILITY says "Multiple sources are generally preferred". Wikipedia guidelines may not require more reliable sources, but this DYK is unlikely to pass until more are added. Shubinator (talk) 21:32, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
In order to fulfill the above I've added further reading entries and an EL to prove notability. Wizard191 (talk) 00:45, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
All but one of the inline citations are still to primary sources. What do the third-party sources say on the topic? Shubinator (talk) 01:00, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Obviously you guys don't like the primary sources, despite what WP:PRIMARY states. The article could be expanded with the further reading entries I added, but I have bigger fish to fry. So you can just discard this nomination. Wizard191 (talk) 02:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of the palaces /new/ and Charles Cameron (architect) /exp./

Alt hooks

I think that ALT1 is a wonderful hook, but I didn't see an inline citation for the "culmination" bit and when I looked in the sources I couldn't find anything quickly. Do you know where this information is in the sources and could you add an inline citation for it so we can use this great hook? Awadewit (talk) 18:18, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Special occasion holding area

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools'). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

Articles created/expanded for the anniversary of the Stonewall riots (June 28)

List of pre-Stonewall LGBT actions in the United States

Created by Otto4711 (talk). Self nom at 19:48, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • If this is accepted, I would like it held until June 28. The featured article for that day is going to be Stonewall riots and I'd like to have this article appear on the same day. Otto4711 (talk) 19:48, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'll accept the offline sources in good faith. The number of pre-Stonewall LGBT actions as described in the hook checks out (I could count 14), and the length looks good. I'll keep this tick up so someone can verify my check. I also think it should be held for June 28 as a double-feature. Hurricane Angel Saki (talk) 23:04, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Heinz Heger

Created by Gonzonoir (talk). Self nom at 21:15, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Of course this is tangential to the Stonewall anniversary, but if it would fit the general theme I'd love to volunteer this one. Gonzonoir (talk) 21:15, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Off-line ref accepted in good faith. Geraldk (talk) 02:16, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Randy Wicker

Created/expanded by Otto4711 (talk). Self nom at 11:53, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Offline sources accepted in good faith. I'll tick it so it can be placed into the special holding. Good work! Hurricane Angel Saki (talk) 22:50, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

One Iowa

  • ... that the LGBT rights group One Iowa used psychologists and childhood development experts during Varnum v. Brien to establish that homosexual couples were as capable of raising children as heterosexuals?

Created by William S. Saturn (talk). Self nom at 03:15, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

From the source: "Lambda included statements from child development and other experts to make the case that children of gay and lesbian parents are just as well-adjusted as children of heterosexual parents." It appears from the source that this was a strategy adopted by plaintiffs' lawyers, not this organization. Is there another source that spells out a clearer connection between One Iowa and the stragegy, or is there another hook from the article that could be used? Otto4711 (talk) 02:20, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Sorry about that, I completely misinterpreted the source. Here's another hook:

Good to go. Otto4711 (talk) 05:47, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Veterans Benevolent Association

Created by Otto4711 (talk). Self nom at 18:11, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • "less-than-honorable" is the official phrase. Why not employ that?--Wetman (talk) 22:28, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • A Congressional sub-committee found that the discharges were discriminatory (specifically "based on prejudice and antagonism"), but if the phrase "less-than-honorable" is needed to pass this then I have no particular issue with the change. Otto4711 (talk) 23:14, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lisa Ben

  • ... that pioneering lesbian journalist Edith Eyde only assumed the pseudonym Lisa Ben after editors of the lesbian magazine The Ladder rejected her first choice, "Ima Spinster"?

5x expanded by Otto4711 (talk). Self nom at 19:04, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stonewall Nation

Created by Otto4711 (talk). Self nom at 21:31, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Off-line ref accepted in good faith. Geraldk (talk) 02:26, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

William Dickey (poet)

Created by Offenbach (talk). Self nom at 13:15, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Does the source for the hook call Berryman Dickey's mentor? If not, the hook needs revising, and should probqably be based on a different ref. Geraldk (talk) 02:30, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded for July 4th (July 4)

Syng inkstand

5x expanded by Geraldk (talk). Self nom at 02:42, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It looks good from here! Hurricane Angel Saki (talk) 03:53, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Just thought of it, but it may make sense to hold this for July 4. Geraldk (talk) 12:25, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See also

  1. ^ Silicon carbide microelectromechanical systems for harsh environments. Imperial College Press. 2006. p. 3. ISBN 1860946240. {{cite book}}: Text "Rebecca Cheung" ignored (help)
  2. ^ J.F. Kelly; et al. (2005). "Correlation between layer thickness and periodicity of long polytypes in silicon carbide". Materials Research Bulletin. 40: 249. doi:10.1016/j.materresbull.2004.10.008. {{cite journal}}: Explicit use of et al. in: |author= (help)
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