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February 11

Portal:Current events/2024 February 11

February 11, 2024 (2024-02-11) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Israel–Hamas war hostage crisis Hamas announces the death of two Israeli hostages and says that eight others have been seriously injured by Israeli airstrikes on the Gaza Strip in the past 96 hours. (Reuters) Myanmar civil war Myanmar's military junta announces that all men aged 18 to 35 and all women aged 18 to 27 will be required to complete two years of mandatory military service, amid territorial losses to anti-military junta forces in the ongoing civil war. (Reuters) Insurgency in Balochistan Two Basij members are killed in an attack on an outpost in Sistan and Baluchestan province, Iran. (Iran International) Disasters and accidents 2024 Maco landslide The death toll from the landslide in Maco, Davao de Oro, Philippines, five days ago, increases to 54 people. Sixty-three others are still missing. (Al Jazeera) Law and crime Lakewood Church shooting A woman carries out a shooting at Lakewood Church, Houston, Texas, United States. She is shot and killed by an off-duty Houston police officer. (The Washington Post) Politics and elections 2024 Finnish presidential election Alexander Stubb is elected President of Finland with 51.6% of the vote.(Yle) Sports 2023 NFL season Super Bowl LVIII In American football, the Kansas City Chiefs win the Super Bowl for the second consecutive year, defeating the San Francisco 49ers 25–22. The Chiefs are the first team to repeat as Super Bowl champions since 2005. (BBC Sport) 2023 Africa Cup of Nations In association football, hosts Ivory Coast win their third Africa Cup of Nations by defeating Nigeria 2–1 in the final. Sébastien Haller scores the winning goal in the 81st minute. (The Guardian)

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February 10

Portal:Current events/2024 February 10

February 10, 2024 (2024-02-10) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip The IDF claims to have discovered a Hamas data center under UNRWA's Gaza Strip headquarters. (Times of Israel) Spillover of the Israel–Hamas war Red Sea crisis Seventeen Houthi fighters are killed during airstrikes launched by the United States and the United Kingdom in Yemen. (Al Jazeera) Kivu conflict M23 offensive Tens of thousands of people flee to Goma, the capital of the DR Congo's North Kivu province, as M23 rebels advance towards the city. (BBC News) Somali civil war Four Emirati soldiers and a Bahraini military officer are killed, while ten other people are injured, when a soldier opens fire at a military base in Mogadishu, Somalia, before being killed in the ensuing shootout. Al-Shabaab claims responsibility. (AP) Disasters and accidents France's EDF shuts down two nuclear reactors due to a fire at the Chinon Nuclear Power Plant. (Reuters) A Eurocopter EC130 helicopter crashes near Nipton, California, United States, killing all the six people on board, including Nigerian banker Herbert Wigwe. (CBS News) Politics and elections 2023–2024 Senegalese protests Violent protests occur in Senegal following an announcement by President Macky Sall that presidential elections have been delayed from February 25 to December 15. (Sky News) 2024 Pakistani general election Despite Imran Khan's lead, Nawaz Sharif claims victory amid allegations of military-led rigging of the election. (Time) President of Hungary Katalin Novák resigns one week after news media revealed that she had pardoned a person who had been convicted of aiding in child sex abuse. (Reuters) Sports 2023 AFC Asian Cup In association football, hosts Qatar win their second consecutive Asian Cup title after defeating Jordan 3–1 in the final. Akram Afif earns a hat-trick—all scored from penalty kicks. (Reuters via The Guardian)

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RD: Henry Blackaby

Article: Henry Blackaby (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Religion News Service
Credits:

• Nominated by HistoryTheorist (talk · give credit)
• Updated by 173.216.141.252 (talk · give credit) and Kelisi (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

A bit stubby. However, I expect publications like Christianity Today and others to provide enough materials to de-stubify. Will probably need a bit of citation work as well, but right now, I'm working on Joel Belz. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 00:02, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

RD: Herbert Wigwe

Article: Herbert Wigwe (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Bloomberg
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Heatrave (talk · give credit)
• Updated by 2601:282:2000:7160:ddf5:d013:2ba9:c1ca (talk · give credit) and Taiyetaiwo99 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

The death of the Group Chairman of Access Holdings, his wife and son through a helicopter crash — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heatrave (talk • contribs) 20:35, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

2024 Pakistani elections

Article: 2024 Pakistani general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Despite the disqualification of the PTI and the jailing of its leader, Imran Khan, independent candidates supporting his party win the most seats in the 2024 Pakistani general election (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Independent candidates backed by the disqualified PTI and its jailed leader, Imran Khan, win the most seats in the 2024 Pakistani general election.
News source(s): BBC, CNN, Reuters, Al Jazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Saqib (talk · give credit) and Titan2456 (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Most results are in and Imran Khan is claiming victory in the election but so is Nawaz Sharif. Formation of a government is likely to be complex and take time but we ought to move on from the previous Khan blurb now. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:01, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support Let's not overlook the fact that numerous foreign media outlets, including France 24, TIME, The Intercept, Economist have characterized the election was rigged by the military as they have done in the past, but despite that the election results have turned out completely differently. NYT went on to say the election results have humiliated the military rulers and has started a new political crises in the country. --Saqib (talk) 17:10, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Needs a more neutral header. In the body of the article it can explain why that party winning the most seats is unusual or unprecedented, but its not ITNs place to make that call. --Masem (t) 18:12, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
• Added altblurb as I think the "despite" in the original blurb is unnecessary. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 18:43, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support altblurb per above. The Kip 19:07, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose - the article is incomprehensible to me. I've been looking at it for 5 minutes, and I simply don't know what's going on. I say that as someone with no previous understanding of how elections are done in Pakistan, and who hasn't read any news articles on the election results, other than the headlines. For example, in the header box, it notes that all 336 seats are up for election. But in the 2024 Pakistani general election#Provisional results by party section it lists total of only 258 seats (declared?) with 7 left to declare. In the info-box it shows Khan as the leader of a party called "PTI-Ind". However that isn't a party, and Khan isn't even running for a seat and thus is ineligible to be PM. The references are whacky - what are [1] and [2] doing as references - surely they are notes. The "Seats needed" in the box is just confusing - everyone needs 169 seats. And getting this number by subtracting the 2018 results doesn't work, as seats have changed since the previous election. Instead show "Seats won", "Seat change". There needs to be a full table of results, similar to the 2018 election. At this point, I'm not sure the result is even clear. Nfitz (talk) 19:38, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

@Nfitz: There're a total of 264 general seats, with the remaining reserved seats [Elections are not conducted for these reserved seats.] Presently, results have been announced for 256 out of the total 264 seats. As for Khan's leadership status, he has been designated as the leader due to his association with the PTI-backed independent candidates. More detailed information on this matter can be found in the section titled 2024_Pakistani_general_election#PTI_de_facto_ban_through_intra-party_election_verdict within the article. And how about we omit the numbers for now, since the legitimacy of many of these results is being contested by the PTI. --Saqib (talk) 21:04, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

The seating is explained in the section 2024_Pakistani_general_election#Electoral_system

The 336 members of the National Assembly consist of 266 general seats elected by first-past-the-post voting in single-member constituencies, 60 seats reserved for women elected by proportional representation based on the number of general seats won by each party in each province, and ten seats reserved for non-Muslims elected through proportional representation based on the number of overall general seats won by each party.

Andrew🐉(talk) 21:10, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks - I do think that one should be able to grasp this a lot quicker, and that the text be improved. Also, at this point the general percentages are done, so how are those seats being distributed ... and do independents even play into that. Ultimately, this is probably ITN. But the article needs work. Nfitz (talk) 00:59, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

February 9

Portal:Current events/2024 February 9

February 9, 2024 (2024-02-09) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Myanmar civil war Operation 1027 At least 340 members of Myanmar's Border Guard Police flee into neighboring Bangladesh and are disarmed and detained by Border Guard Bangladesh in the past week amid continued fighting against the Arakan Army. (ABC News) Israel–Hamas war Evacuations during the Israel–Hamas war, Gaza Strip evacuations Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu orders the Israel Defense Forces to plan evacuations of the city of Rafah. (BBC News) Disasters and accidents At least 18 people are killed during a collision between a bus and a truck on a road in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of the Congo. (AP) Two people are killed and three more survive after a plane crashes on Interstate 75 in Collier County, Florida, United States. (WBBH-TV) Law and crime Four people are killed and another is injured in a mass shooting at a market in Rustavi, Kvemo Kartli, Georgia. The gunman is arrested. (Reuters) Two police officers are killed and two more are injured after a speedboat suspected of belonging to drug smugglers smashed into their patrol craft in the port of Barbate, Spain. (AP) In a landmark ruling, the Federal Court of Malaysia declares several instances of Islamic legislation passed by the State Government of Kelantan as unconstitutional. (CNA)

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RD: Damo Suzuki

Article: Damo Suzuki (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian, Pitchfork
Credits:

• Nominated by 240D:1A:4B5:2800:5C1A:689:3A4D:64F1 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Japanese rock singer known as a member of Can. 240D:1A:4B5:2800:5C1A:689:3A4D:64F1 (talk) 00:37, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support: Article looks to be of good quality, though the discography section could be shortened a bit. LynxesDesmond 🐈 (talk) 02:56, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

(Ready) RD: Ed Tarver

Article: Ed Tarver (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

– Muboshgu (talk) 16:55, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support not long but sufficient article. Sourced and ready.BabbaQ (talk) 22:38, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

RD: Robert Badinter

Article: Robert Badinter (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): French Government Le Figaro France 24 Libération
Credits:

• Nominated by Brigade Piron (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Ancientwanderingsnow (talk · give credit), Spectritus (talk · give credit) and Normantas Bataitis (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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French lawyer, statesman and government minister known for his ultimately successful campaign for the abolition of the death penalty in France. The article still needs work. —Brigade Piron (talk) 22:16, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Not ready Still four citation needed tags and one failed verification, shouldn't be too hard to fix. While I wouldn't call the death blurb-worthy, he was certainly a defining figure of French politics, and a man of his stature deserves an article in good shape. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 00:59, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Procedural oppose per above This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 05:03, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

February 8

Portal:Current events/2024 February 8

February 8, 2024 (2024-02-08) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy dismisses Valerii Zaluzhnyi from the post of Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, following months of rumors about a disagreement between Zelenskyy and Zaluzhnyi. Ground Forces commander Oleksandr Syrskyi is appointed Commander-in-Chief to replace Zaluzhnyi. (BBC News) Disasters and accidents 2023–2024 Sundhnúkur eruptions Icelandic officials declare a state of emergency after a new volcanic eruption cuts off hot water for approximately 20,000 people south of Reykjavík. (NU) The death toll from a landslide in Baghdati, Imereti, Georgia, increases to nine, following the conclusion of search operations. (RFE/RL) (Agenda.ge) Five U.S. Marines are confirmed dead after a Sikorsky CH-53E Super Stallion helicopter, which crashed yesterday in San Diego County, California, United States, is located. (NBC News) Politics and elections 2024 Pakistani general election Pakistanis elect members of the 16th National Assembly. (Reuters) Mobile phone services are temporarily suspended and thousands of troops are deployed to protect polling stations during the 2024 Pakistani general election as five policemen are killed in a bombing targeting a patrol in Kulachi, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, and two children are killed in a bombing at a polling station in Balochistan. (Reuters) Trump v. Anderson The US Supreme Court hears arguments on whether the Colorado Supreme Court had the authority to exclude former US President Donald Trump from the Colorado presidential primary ballot, for allegedly violating Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. (CBS News) Science and technology Meta suspends the Instagram accounts of Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei for violating its "Dangerous Organizations & Individuals policy". (Middle East Eye) NASA's PACE mission is launched aboard a Falcon 9 rocket at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida, United States, to study Earth's ocean and atmosphere. (Ars Technica)

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2024 Haldwani violence

Article: 2024 Haldwani violence (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Uttrakhand, India, at least five people are killed and dozens more injured in religious clashes. (Post)
News source(s): BBC NYT AJ
Credits:

• Nominated by 2401:BA80:A30C:7BB8:5C5C:46F1:1EB:FF3F (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Article looks good enough to get posted. | 2401:BA80:A30C:7BB8:5C5C:46F1:1EB:FF3F (talk) 05:21, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose good faith nomination on quality As I am not super involved in Indian events, I can't comment much on notability, but there are a bunch of yellow tags relating to tone which need to be dealt with first before we post the article. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 05:34, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on Quality there are 3 tags when you open the page Setarip (talk) 12:47, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality, but support in principle. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 17:36, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

(Ready) New prime minister of Georgia

Article: Irakli Kobakhidze (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Irakli Kobakhidze (pictured) is elected Prime Minister of Georgia by the Parliament (Post)
News source(s): Associated Press
Credits:

• Nominated by Alsoriano97 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Borgenland (talk · give credit), Uzenaes (talk · give credit) and 2G0o2De0l (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

His article needs a bit of work. I'm on it. Work done. _-_Alsor (talk) 12:35, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Support: However, as the nominator said, the article should be improved. Article has been improved. Prodrummer619 (talk) 19:39, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Support change of head of government This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 04:32, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support a new administration change is always notable enough to post

Setarip (talk) 09:05, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose due to there still being 3 cn's. Support as the article now seems to be fully sourced. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 14:28, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks for your work. _-_Alsor (talk) 17:06, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

  You're welcome, and thanks for your work as well. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 17:16, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

• The article has been improved: content expanded and RS sourced. _-_Alsor (talk) 17:02, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

  @Prodrummer619 can you please take a look at the article? Thanks _-_Alsor (talk) 17:07, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support It’s ITN/R & meets the quality standards. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 19:54, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

February 7

Portal:Current events/2024 February 7

February 7, 2024 (2024-02-07) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Spillover of the Israel–Hamas war Attacks on U.S. bases in Iraq, Jordan, and Syria (2023–present) February 2024 United States airstrikes in Iraq and Syria A USAF MQ-9 Reaper kills three Kata'ib Hezbollah militants in a precision airstrike using a Hellfire missile, including a high ranking commander, in Baghdad, Iraq. (AP) Insurgency in Balochistan 2024 Balochistan bombings Two bombings outside electoral offices in Balochistan, Pakistan, ahead of tomorrow's general election, kill at least 30 people and injure dozens more. The Islamic State claims responsibility for both attacks. (AP) Pakistan closes all border crossings with Afghanistan until further notice in response to the attacks. (Pajhwok) Russian invasion of Ukraine Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure Russian forces launch a wave of missile and drone strikes across Ukraine, killing at least five civilians and injuring 11 others, including two in Kyiv. (BBC News) Southern Thailand insurgency The Thai government and Muslim separatists in the country's south agree to begin a Malaysian-brokered peace process to end an insurgency which began in 2004. (AP) 2024 Ecuadorian conflict Naranjal city councilwoman Diana Carnero is shot and killed by unknown gunmen immediately following a city council meeting. (El Universo) Disasters and accidents Death and state funeral of Sebastián Piñera It is announced that former Chilean president Sebastián Piñera will receive a state funeral with the wake lasting until February 9. (Emol) Five United States Marines are missing after a Sikorsky CH-53E Super Stallion helicopter crashes in San Diego County, California, United States. (NBC News) The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Georgia confirms that eight people have been killed and another is missing, following a landslide in Baghdati, Imereti, on February 6, the same day that two more have also been killed in separate events in Adjara. (Agenda.ge) (RFE/RL Georgia) Law and crime Nicaragua grants political asylum to former Panamanian president Ricardo Martinelli after he requests protection at the Nicaraguan embassy in Panama City, Panama. (Reuters) Politics and elections 2024 Azerbaijani presidential election President of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev is re-elected for a fifth term in office. (Reuters)

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(Posted) RD: Alfred Grosser

Article: Alfred Grosser (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): taz and others
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Legendary intellectual, Jewish family had to flee the Nazis from Frankfurt to Paris in 1933, but he was instrumental in improving the German-French relations after the war, in the treaty as well as books and teaching. He also believed that a Jew doesn't have to automatically support Israeli politics. The article had a few life details and a lot of controversy, and few references, and many of those lost. So updating took a while. More details welcome, - for me there's RL and Seiji Ozawa. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:23, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article seems to be ready for RD. Grimes2 (talk) 12:25, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support article quality is pretty good. Setarip (talk) 12:58, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support article looks great and ready. _-_Alsor (talk) 14:27, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
• Posted — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 00:42, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

RD: Qristina Ribohn

Article: Qristina Ribohn (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

• Updated by BabbaQ (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Swedish reality television contestant, drug counselor, and politician. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 12:17, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support - Decent shape after updates. Looks good to go in my opinion.BabbaQ (talk) 22:32, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

(Ready) 2024 Balochistan bombings

Article: 2024 Balochistan bombings (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 30 people are killed and more than 40 injured in two ISIS bombings targeting political campaign offices in Balochistan, Pakistan on the eve of the general elections. (Post)
News source(s): CNN, VOA, BBC, AP, Al Jazeera, Guardian,
Credits:

• Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)
• Created by Moondragon21 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Borgenland (talk · give credit) and Chomik1129 (talk · give credit)

Ainty Painty (talk) 03:29, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support The article is well-sourced and the event is certainly notable --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 03:37, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Support as per above Ion.want.uu (talk) 03:46, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support A bit short, but this meets the requirements; for now, I think this should be treated as an isolated incident until a concrete link to the elections is established. Also moved this to February 7 as the bombings happened on that day. Vida0007 (talk) 09:51, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

• The sources in the article seem unanimous in having the election as the context for this incident:

1. "At least 30 dead in Balochistan explosions, day before Pakistan election". CNN
2. "Bomb Blasts Kill 30 in Pakistan Ahead of Thursday's Elections". Voice of America
3. "Pakistan election: Two deadly blasts in Balochistan day before vote". BBC News
4. "At least 30 killed in two bombings at election offices in Pakistan". The Guardian
5. "Bombings at Pakistani political offices kill at least 30 a day before parliamentary elections". Associated Press
6. "Pakistan polls 2024: Blasts target candidates' offices, at least 30 killed on eve of election". The Times of India

and so on. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:54, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

• Comment shouldn't the article title be 2024 Pishin bombings? Abcmaxx (talk) 10:11, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  There were also offices targeted in Killa Saifullah, which is quite far from Pishin apparently
  @Ainty Painty Could you change the blurb's "Pishin" to "Balochistan province"? Aaron Liu (talk) 12:33, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

   Done Ainty Painty (talk) 13:43, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support well-sourced and significant. Setarip (talk) 11:31, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Really wish more than half the article is actually about the event rather than the kudzo of non-action reactions from world leaders. --Masem (t) 13:14, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  Yes, the treatment is as a cookie-cutter disaster newsevent rather than it being properly integrated with an encyclopedic treatment of the Pakistan election, the Balochistan independence movement, ISIS-K fundamentalism and whatever else that this is part of. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:33, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  I haven't looked at this story at all, but even I remember reading of non-lethal violence and increased policing throughout Pakistan as a result of the election. Yes, the bombing does deserve a standalone article outside the election one, but here definitely could have more background as to understand why this bombing could have happened. Masem (t) 13:44, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  See 2024_Pakistani_general_election#Security_concerns_and_violence which lists numerous lethal incidents including

  In Balochistan, grenades were thrown at two polling stations by unidentified individuals. At the same time, a soldier was killed in an attack by gunmen in Kot Azam, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. Five security personnel were killed in an attack in Kulachi, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, while a polling station in the same province was shelled by mortars. Two security officers were killed and nine wounded by a blast near a polling station in Lajja, Balochistan, while two people were injured following 14 "minor blasts" in Gwadar.

  So, with such a wave of violence associated with the election, we should provide a more comprehensive account rather than cherry-picking two particular incidents 100 miles apart. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:43, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

• Improve Article, then Support: The event is notable enough, but the article only consists of two paragraphs actually about the event (excluding the reactions), so this should be expanded. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 13:27, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Support Article seems well sourced and this is an event that's on the news. Lukt64 (talk) 14:54, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose The blurb explains that this is related to the ongoing election in Pakistan and so is better than the current blurb about Imran Khan. But, it's not clear what the relationship is between ISIS and the BLA. Is one part of the other or what? Presenting this as an isolated incident doesn't seem adequate in giving the big picture. It's the election which is the main story. I'm opposing until we get a more comprehensive account. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:43, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  Why would there need to be information on the relationship between IS and the BLA? The election is already mentioned in the blurb. Aaron Liu (talk) 15:49, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  The BLA has been boycotting the election and seems responsible for numerous other acts of violence during the election. ISIS claims responsibility for these two blasts but what's it got to do with them? As no-one has been caught and tried then WP:PERP per applies. And as this is a contentious topic per WP:ARBIP, we should not be jumping to conclusions and acting like we have all the facts. There's a lot more to say about this election as the results are now coming but are disputed. We should wait for further developments and present a more comprehensive account of the whole thing. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:15, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  Agree with Aaron Liu. We are reporting the facts in the blurb. I don't see any jumping to conclusions. Trying to "connect the dots" as you want to do, is original research. Natg 19 (talk) 18:07, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  The blurb states definitely that these were ISIS bombings but this is not proven. And why should we give so much attention to these particular incidents when there are lots of others too? It gives the usual impression that ITN only cares about a high death toll. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:15, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  ISIS being the only one to claim responsibility is proof enough for now.
  Give attention because of the high death count in an area where such death counts aren't routine. Aaron Liu (talk) 18:56, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  You do understand you're basically asking us to do WP:OR here, yes? The Kip 19:05, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  Also, what did you mean by WP:PERP per applies? That link leads to the notability guideline for perpetrators. Aaron Liu (talk) 20:01, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

• Weak support I'd prefer a longer article, but it meets the bare minimum standards. The Kip 19:05, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support Looks good to go. Overall ITN quality and relevance.BabbaQ (talk) 22:40, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per Andrew. _-_Alsor (talk) 00:34, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

  What?
  Could you explain how that wouldn't be OR? Why do we need that? Aaron Liu (talk) 01:07, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

RD: Mojo Nixon

Article: Mojo Nixon (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3], [4], [5]
Credits:

• Nominated by thrashbandicoot01 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American rockabilly singer best known for his novelty hit "Elvis Is Everywhere" and for hosting various radio shows on Sirius XM satellite radio. thrashbandicoot01 (talk) 8:16, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

• Wait The article has multiple CN tags --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:28, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

(Ready) RD: Henry Fambrough

Article: Henry Fambrough (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Associated Press
Credits:

• Nominated by Funcrunch (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Last surviving original member of the American R&B group The Spinners. Funcrunch (talk) 07:06, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

• Wait - Two CN tags that probably should be dealt with before posting. Otherwise good article. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (he/him | talk) 08:16, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

  Citations now located and added. Funcrunch (talk) 21:35, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support The article has been fully sourced. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 00:43, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support Sufficient. And good to go,--BabbaQ (talk) 22:43, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: José Delbo

Article: José Delbo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Daily Cartoonist, CBR,
Credits:

• Nominated by Solon26125 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Argentine cartoonist. The article is well referenced, including his passing. Having inserted him at the recent deaths of pt.wiki, I'm a bit shocked to see that the RD here still have two people that died in January. It's 7 February... Solon ^26.125 13:52, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

• Weak support - Seems decently sourced. I'm not sure if we need any additional sourcing for the bibliography section, but if not, this should be good to go. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (he/him | talk) 13:59, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose due to an unsourced bibliography Support as the unsourced bibliography section has been removed. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 14:23, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

  @2G0o2De0l, would it be a problem if the bibliography section got removed? It seems to be difficult to source properly, and I'm not willing to go after individual references for each comic there. Solon ^26.125 19:54, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

  @Solon26125 I think that would be a good solution. I have done a bit of searching, and the only sources I can find that we could use are things like the Grand Comics Database, which are potentially unreliable. I don't think it makes sense to leave such a large amount of uncited information when there is no clear path to finding an RS for it. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 20:47, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

  @2G0o2De0l:  Done, section removed. Solon ^26.125 21:11, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article is of generally good quality --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 23:34, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 23:07, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Cecilia Gentili

Article: Cecilia Gentili (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.them.us/story/cecilia-gentili-transgender-advocate-author-obituary
Credits:

• Nominated by ForsythiaJo (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Argentine LGBT & trans rights activist. New article, but seems fairly well sourced. ForsythiaJo (talk) 05:02, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support The article is of generally good quality. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 07:56, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support - Decently sourced. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (he/him | talk) 08:05, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support - Appears well-written and sourced. Funcrunch (talk) 19:22, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support Appears to be of sufficient quality. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 22:37, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
• Strong support, trailblazer and huge loss. Well sourced/well written. Star Mississippi 01:50, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 03:00, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

February 6

Portal:Current events/2024 February 6

February 6, 2024 (2024-02-06) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks DHKP/C insurgency in Turkey 2024 Istanbul Palace of Justice shooting Two Revolutionary People's Liberation Party/Front shooters open fire outside the Istanbul Justice Palace in Turkey, killing one person and injuring five others, before being killed in a shootout with police. (Al Jazeera) Somali civil war 2024 Mogadishu market bombing Ten people are killed and about 20 others are injured in a quadruple bombing at a market in Mogadishu, Somalia. (Al Jazeera) The Greek island of Aegina is left without drinking water after an explosion disables a 12-kilometer-long (7.5-mile) undersea fresh water pipeline. Greater Athens governor Nikos Hardalias calls it an act of sabotage. (AP) Business and economy The Dutch owner of Yandex, a Russian multinational technology company and search engine, announces the sale of the company to a "fully Russian-owned entity" for 475 billion rubles (US$5.2 billion). (BBC News) Disasters and accidents Death and state funeral of Sebastián Piñera Former Chilean president Sebastián Piñera dies in a helicopter crash in Ranco Lake, Chile. (Reuters) Eleven people are killed and 150 others are injured in a fire at a fireworks factory in Harda, Madhya Pradesh, India. (AP) 2024 Maco landslide At least seven people are killed in a landslide in Maco, Davao de Oro, Philippines. Search and rescue operations are ongoing for 48 others missing, which include mine workers. (AFP via The Philippine Star) Politics and elections 2024 United States presidential election 2024 Republican Party presidential primaries 2024 Nevada Republican presidential nominating contests Nevada holds its Republican Party presidential primary. However, the Republican Party boycotts the primary and will award no delegates to the winner. The party plans to hold a presidential caucus on February 8 to award its delegates. (Al Jazeera) Attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election, Federal prosecution of Donald Trump The U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. rules that former President Donald Trump does not have presidential immunity and can therefore be prosecuted for allegedly attempting to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. (BBC News)

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RD: Seiji Ozawa

Article: Seiji Ozawa (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Associated Press Washington Post
Credits:

• Nominated by HistoryTheorist (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit) and Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

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Did a brief check of article, looks mostly alright but it might need a bit more citation work. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 19:00, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

• Thank you for the nomination, - working on it but another one first. Any help with sourcing awards and such welcome. We'll have better obits. The article lacks music, imho. - I updated a lot, especially throwing out "refs" that don't work any more or are unreliable, but not enough to mark it "updated" (yet). Haven't seen the Washington Post, for example. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:08, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

  I might do that, but I also got myself into another RD that I'm trying to update that's basically a stub and I have a music competition that I'm participating in today. Will try doing some source work myself though. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 16:16, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Blurb: Sebastián Piñera

Article: Sebastián Piñera (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Former president of Chile Sebastián Piñera (pictured) is killed in a helicopter crash at the age of 74 (Post)
News source(s): Emol BBC Mundo
Credits:

• Nominated by Bedivere (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former Chilean president. I second Alsoriano97's comment, a blurb may be good. --Bedivere (talk) 19:18, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Support although an article is needed for the crash. Jebiguess (talk) 19:52, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

As far as I can know only a Spanish news agency (Agencia EFE) is confirming Piñera's death. I would wait for other RS to do so. In any case, since it is a possible death in a helicopter crash and taking into account that Piñera governed in two terms, the last one ending less than two years ago, we could value a blurb. Also the article needs revision in some aspects. _-_Alsor (talk) 19:55, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

BBC Mundo confirms (quoting govt statement). The rest'll follow shortly, no doubt. Moscow Mule (talk) 20:10, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

The government has confirmed Piñera's death Bedivere (talk) 20:12, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support blurb I'm not too familiar with Chilean politics, but the death of a recent former head of state, especially in a helicopter crash, seems noteworthy to me. Of course, time is needed to get the article up to snuff, but I don't see any issues with notability. DNVIC (talk) 20:14, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

• Comment I would support a blurb due to his importance and the manner of his death, but the article has some cn tags.--Kacamata! ^Dimmi!!! 20:21, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability While I'm squarely in the "maybe" opinion for former heads of state dying, the manner of his death definitely makes this a blurb-worthy event. ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 20:27, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb A recent president (which means more people will remember him) and unusual circumstances. Johndavies837 (talk) 20:29, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb Recent head of state, notable life (protests, constitutional crisis), unusual circumstances of death. The Kip 21:17, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb per the other comments. Unexpected cause of death. --NoonIcarus (talk) 21:31, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality (NPOV tag, as well as tense issues) but a blurb is reasonable here, more on the manner of death than his past. I don't think we would have posted his death as a blurb if it was natural. Masem (t) 21:35, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Oppose blurb not a current head of state or head of government, even if he was president as recently as 2022. I don't think that the accidental manner of death warrants a blurb. I'm trying to think of whether or not I would support a blurb for Obama's or Trump's death if it was accidental like this, but to be honest I don't think I would for Obama, maybe for Trump since he's also running for President again; or if Stephen Harper died like this, but I don't think I would support a blurb for that either. JM (talk) 22:14, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

The probability that Trump, Obama, Bill Clinton and even Jimmy Carter will be blurbed when they die, accidental or otherwise, is approximately 100%.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:33, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

I know. I'm just thinking about how I would vote. I've said on other RD blurb noms that I wouldn't vote to blurb Carter's death JM (talk) 22:34, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps a former head of state and government dying in a plane/helicopter/car crash is more common than we think. _-_Alsor (talk) 22:36, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

You...do realize we blurb previous heads of state, right? Piñera should be no exception. qw3rty 22:34, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Do we? Where's the guideline or consensus? Would we blurb the death of Taur Matan Ruak, former president of East Timor? JM (talk) 22:35, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes. qw3rty 22:44, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Somehow I doubt that. I'm sick and studying so I don't have the energy or time to go through the archives but I think it's highly likely there are more than a few former heads of state who were not blurbed, out of the hundreds of countries which each have new heads of state every few years, of which probably hundreds have died since ITN started. JM (talk) 22:47, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

We shouldn't. In fact we should not blurb Piñera's death if it had been in "normal or natural" circumstances. We cannot, and should not, turn ITN into a de facto obituary of former heads of state/governments. Get well soon, JM. _-_Alsor (talk) 23:35, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Just saying "yes" without pointing to a guideline or consensus isn't an acceptable answer, as indeed, there is no guideline or consensus that supports your statement. Kicking222 (talk) 14:56, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

We did blurb José Eduardo dos Santos when he died, I believe. The Kip 22:52, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support blurb per all above. Notable former head of state. qw3rty 22:34, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support Blurb, Oppose on Quality Article is not ready to go due to an NPOV tag. As for notability, I believe that, due to him having been the first democratically elected conservative president in Chile since 1958, and due to his major involvement in the 2019-2022 Chilean protests (both points being stated in the lead of the article), combined with his unusual nature of death, a blurb is warranted. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 22:37, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

I will also note that the President of Chile article itself may not be ready to go, having a number of completely unsourced sections. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 22:41, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support blurb – the NPOV tag has been removed and no citation needed tags remain. –FlyingAce^✈hello 01:08, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Support blurb - recent and relatively notable head of state. The relatively unusual circumstances surrounding his death also make this worth blurbing. estar8806 (talk) ★ 01:23, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Support blurb - unusual manner of death makes it notable This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 02:59, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support blurb by the unusual death criterion. Davey2116 (talk) 03:14, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb - the death of any current or former head of state is notable, in my mind. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 03:33, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb - per above. Unusual death criterion could apply here, and he was a former head of state for until as recent as 2022. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (he/him | talk) 08:10, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb. Article is ready It appears that all issues with the article have been fixed. _-_Alsor (talk) 11:16, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 13:13, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

  @Stephen: The article death and state funeral of Sebastián Piñera was recently created. ArionStar (talk) 20:38, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

  Added. Stephen 21:02, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

RD: John Bruton

Article: John Bruton (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Irish Times Sky News
Credits:

• Nominated by Sheila1988 (talk · give credit)

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Former Irish Taoiseach (prime minister). Sheila1988 (talk) 12:10, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

• Needs work Orange-tagged for NPOV since 2015. There's a bit of talk page discussion back in 2006 but more clarity on the issues is needed. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:21, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
• Procedural oppose for above reason This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 04:36, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Per Andrew, there is an NPOV tag. There are also numerous sourcing issues throughout the article. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 20:51, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

  Comment there appears to be no NPOV tag on the page currently and going through the history there never was one. Aydoh8 (talk) 00:07, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

  The tag can be found at John_Bruton#Taoiseach (1994–1997); please see also here and here. --PFHLai (talk) 01:00, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

• State funeral The BBC has been reporting his state funeral in regular bulletins today and so I'm surprised that there's not been more pressure for a blurb. As the article will be getting more attention as a consequence, I've done some clean-up. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:05, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Yemen's new PM

Article: Ahmad Awad bin Mubarak (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Ahmad Awad bin Mubarak (pictured) is appointed as Yemen's new Prime Minister, replacing Maeen Abdulmalik Saeed who was Yemen’s premier since 2018 (Post)
News source(s): [6] [7] [8]
Credits:

• Nominated by Abo Yemen (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Borgenland (talk · give credit)

• Oppose – because we don't have any information about him between 2018 and 2024. The gaps here are too big to be helpful for our readers. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 12:43, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability, oppose on quality for now - per Mable. Massive gap in article between 2018 and 2024 that should be fixed first. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (he/him | talk) 12:57, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Support on notability, oppose on quality per the two above comments Lukt64 (talk) 14:00, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

• I'm pretty sure this would be considered WP:ITN/R anyway. Significance isn't really a concern here. Will say that Prime Minister of Yemen can also use some work... ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 14:33, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

  Y changed to ITN/R JM (talk) 17:23, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

  It's not R; the president holds the executive power in Yemen. InedibleHulk (talk) 18:03, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose - not ITN/R. Not notable enough. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 02:49, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability but hold until artcile improves This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 03:01, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on notability: the prime minister is not the head of state in Yemen. Less important, but while the Presidential Leadership Council is recognised internationally, it does not actually govern most of Yemen's population. Endwise (talk) 13:17, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose As per above, the prime minister does not hold the executive power in Yemen, meaning this is not ITN/R, and the event itself is not notable enough. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 21:00, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

February 5

Portal:Current events/2024 February 5

February 5, 2024 (2024-02-05) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Spillover of the Israel–Hamas war Attacks on U.S. bases in Iraq, Jordan, and Syria February 2024 United States airstrikes in Iraq and Syria A drone attack against a U.S. military base in Deir ez-Zor Governorate, Syria, kills seven Syrian Democratic Forces soldiers and injures 18 others. The Islamic Resistance in Iraq claims responsibility for the attack. (Al Jazeera) (AP) Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Ten police officers are killed and six others are injured in an attack by Tehreek-e-Jihad Pakistan militants against a police station in Dera Ismail Khan, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan. (Al Jazeera) Mexican drug war Four taxi and bus drivers are killed during coordinated shootings in Chilpancingo, Mexico. (AP) Disasters and accidents Twenty people are killed by landslides and floods in Davao de Oro and Davao del Norte, Philippines. (Reuters) Politics and elections Hungary–Sweden relations, Sweden–NATO relations Hungary's ruling party Fidesz boycotts a National Assembly session called by opposition parties to speed up the approval of Sweden's NATO membership bid. (Politico) King Charles III, of the United Kingdom and the other Commonwealth realms, is diagnosed with cancer following a medical examination. (BBC News)

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RD: Dries van Agt

Article: Dries van Agt (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NL Times
Credits:

• Nominated by TiffanyAlThani (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

TiffanyAlThani (talk) 23:05, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose honorary degree, honours and awards, and politics sections all need citing, lead far too long. Multiple other sentences and claims in the article also uncited. Unusual subheading splits for a biography article too. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:32, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

RD: Jean Malaurie

Article: Jean Malaurie (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Le Monde
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Thriley (talk) 21:55, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Wait several paras are not cited. Harvici (talk) 09:15, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

RD: Michael Jayston

Article: Michael Jayston (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Independent, Radio Times, Pinkvilla
Credits:

• Nominated by Challenger l (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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British actor of very long experience and note. Challenger l (talk) 19:05, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

• Weak oppose - Sourcing seems a little sparse and citations are placed in kind of strange spots, plus there's a CN tag. Would support once these issues are fixed. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (he/him | talk) 14:03, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

RD: Toby Keith

Article: Toby Keith (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): KWTV, Associated Press, New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Ks0stm (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Ks0stm ^{(T•C•G•E)} 09:17, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Oppose some sections aren't cited. Harvici (talk) 10:03, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Oppose The phrase "Three million spins" is not explained, and the reference provided is a dead link. And that's just from the first paragraph. Chrisclear (talk) 11:10, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

support! Very well known artist. More notable than most people in recent deaths lately 2600:6C5E:147F:858F:EC90:269B:E0C6:4127 (talk) 13:29, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

The RD line only cares that the person was notable, not how notable they were compared to others that were also notable. Its not a popularity/fame vote. Masem (t) 13:33, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Support on Notability — It is very clear Toby Keith was notable. Article isn’t in the best of shape at the moment, hence the wait. Actual “oppose” !votes make no sense, as an oppose is different than a wait and seems to indicate a true “no” to posting. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 14:25, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

!vote changed to full support. Article is in decent shape now. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 16:38, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Oppose: At least four entire paragraphs uncited Aaron Liu (talk) 17:15, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

One of these paragraphs is a possible copyvio. Aaron Liu (talk) 19:22, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

I’ve just discovered that even the first paragraph is a likely copyvio. Definitely in no state of posting. Aaron Liu (talk) 19:35, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

The irony of saying "oppose !votes make no sense" while starting with "Support on Notability" when RD is not concerned with notability is palpable. Kicking222 (talk) 15:08, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Waits are essentially opposes. Aaron Liu (talk) 15:41, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

• Comment two {cn} tags remain, both in the "Early life and education" section. Otherwise, this article is good to go. Also moved this to February 5 as Keith died on that day. Vida0007 (talk) 17:45, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

  The first paragraph of the musical career section and most of the Acting career section are also unreferenced Aaron Liu (talk) 18:07, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

  Also, the 2nd paragraph of the “Political beliefs” section is mostly uncited. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 19:30, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose There are uncited statements scattered across the article, and I'm unconvinced that the statements in the lead paragraph are sourced elsewhere. Black Kite (talk) 19:35, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose due to a poorly sourced tours section, early life and education section, and various other unsourced claims. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 22:49, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on WP:ITNQUALITY. Aydoh8 (talk)

Aydoh8 (talk) 00:03, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

• Strong oppose - No chance on this getting onto the main page as long as we have an ongoing copyvio investigation on a significantly large section of the article. _{Duly signed,} ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 13:13, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

  It’s not that large (two paragraphs), though revision deletions are certainly needed. Aaron Liu (talk) 13:46, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Charles III diagnosed with cancer

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Article: Charles III (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ King Charles III is diagnosed with a form of cancer. (Post)
News source(s): BBC news
Credits:

• Nominated by Urbanracer34 (talk · give credit)

It is not often a ruling leader is diagnosed with such a condition. This is my first ever nomination to ITN, so please go easy on me. Urbanracer34 (talk) 19:06, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support it is in the news and article is in good shape. Worth highlighting. 2A02:908:676:E640:1529:50D8:AC9D:7F61 (talk) 19:09, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Even as one of his subjects here in the UK, I don't think this passes the bar. We've been given so little information that it could be very minor (or indeed, not). Black Kite (talk) 19:10, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Good faith nomination, but ITN does not typically cover the personal health conditions of most individuals. Ornithoptera (talk) 19:12, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose - Good faith nomination, but while this story is (as the nominator notes) unusual, it's not got the sort of immediate impact that most ITN stories have. GenevieveDEon (talk) 19:13, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Good faith nom, but not significant enough for ITN. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 19:15, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Good faith nom, as one of His Majesty's loyal subjects I'm afraid I have to say that this doesn't quite cross the line for inclusion (and it may not even be terminal). The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 19:18, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Many world leaders have had illnesses and treatments. It simply doesnt rise to the level of ITN inclusion.

Noah, AA^Talk 19:21, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose. Nothing has been announced that would indicate that this is a serious health issue. If it is, we can deal with it then. BD2412 T 19:27, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Oppose, If he dies from it and the head of state changes then that's significant; the illness itself isn't significant. Certainly news, especially in Commonwealth realms, but not news enough for ITN. JM (talk) 20:38, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Neutral wait until further details Lukt64 (talk) 20:38, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Ian Lavender

Article: Ian Lavender (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

• Nominated by The C of E (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Mohamad Darilin (talk · give credit) and The C of E (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

English actor and last surviving cast member of Dad's Army. (Don't tell him, Pike!) The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 12:45, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Due to an unsourced filmography. Support as article looks ready to go now. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 13:46, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose, sources currently in article don't cover all of the information. I've only looked at the After Dad's Army section so far but I've checked the sources at the ends of the paragraphs and they don't mention a lot of the information. Suonii180 (talk) 14:07, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
• Comment I've removed a reference from the article as I think the publication has lifted the information from Wikipedia and is therefore WP:CIRCULAR. However, I've started a discussion at the article's talk page in case the information was originally copied and pasted from elsewhere onto Wikipedia. Suonii180 (talk) 14:25, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
  • @2G0o2De0l: @Suonii180: I believe I have sorted the referencing out now. I know, should have done it before nominating but please feel free to say as Captain Mainwaring once said to Pike: "You stupid boy!". The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 17:24, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support quality suitable for RD. Polyamorph (talk) 17:34, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
• Posted. Good work there. Black Kite (talk) 19:11, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
• @Black Kite:, I've added a potential copyright violation tag to the paragraph relating to the reference in my comment above as the two paragraphs are identical. Reference was https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/dads-army-star-ian-lavender-9078725. I'm not sure if it should stay posted on the main page if it is potential issues with copyright. I've listed it at Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2024 February 5. Suonii180 (talk) 21:35, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

February 4

Portal:Current events/2024 February 4

February 4, 2024 (2024-02-04) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Abyei border conflict Thirty-seven people are killed during fights over a suspected land feud in the disputed region of Abyei on the border between South Sudan and Sudan. (AP) Arts and culture 66th Annual Grammy Awards Miley Cyrus wins Record of the Year, her first Grammy Award, for her 2023 single "Flowers". (CBS News) Taylor Swift wins Album of the Year for Midnights, becoming the first artist to win the award four times. She also announces the release of a new album, The Tortured Poets Department, on April 19, 2024. (Variety) Disasters and accidents 2024 Chile wildfires The death toll from major wildfires in Valparaíso, Chile, increases to at least 112 people, with between 3,000 and 6,000 houses damaged in the fires. (BBC News) Politics and elections 2024 Salvadoran general election Salvadorans vote to elect the president, vice president, and Legislative Assembly. With over 80% of the popular vote, Nayib Bukele wins re-election in a first-round landslide. (BBC News) (Reuters) President of Namibia Hage Geingob dies at the age of 82, and is succeeded by Vice-President Nangolo Mbumba on an acting basis. (The Namibian)

RD: John Elford

Article: John Elford (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.zerotackle.com/rugby-league-representative-forward-john-elford-passes-away-205688/
Credits:

• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit) and Doctorhawkes (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Australian rugby league footballer who played in the 1960s and 1970s. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 12:07, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Support- due to its significance Jlvshistory (talk) 14:02, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

This is the fourth time you have been told that RD has nothing at all to do with signficiance. Votes on significance cannot be counted and do not help review the nomination at all. JM (talk) 15:45, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Strangely, @PFHLai also said that in Special:Diff/1205831588 before mysteriously deleting it Aaron Liu (talk) 16:24, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

His database of played games and claim on surfing are sourced to what's basically a blog. Not sure if that's a showstopper. Aaron Liu (talk) 23:03, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Curiously, despite being pelted at RSN, rugbyleagueproject.org is still an official resources in Wikiproject Rugby League. That doesn't mean anything, right? Aaron Liu (talk) 23:12, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

RD: Papineau (horse)

Article: Papineau (horse) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/274809/gold-cup-winner-therapy-horse-papineau-dies-at-24
Credits:

• Updated by Kelisi (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

British-bred Thoroughbred racehorse, winner of the Henry II Stakes and the Ascot Gold Cup in 2004. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 00:16, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: Closed but with a couple unreferenced statements. Spencer^T•C 01:38, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

(Ready) RD: Brooke Ellison

Article: Brooke Ellison (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Newsday
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Valadius (talk · give credit) and Connormah (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Thriley (talk) 23:07, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Wait-Let's should see first their comments, about this but the article is great however Jlvshistory (talk) 23:29, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support just came to nominate this myself now that more sourcing has come out. The SBU one is an SPS but fine for basic biographical details.

Star Mississippi 01:45, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support Sourced and ready.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:34, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

RD: Joel Belz

Article: Joel Belz (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Christian Post
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by HistoryTheorist (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit) and 2600:1700:2002:270:5107:f07c:379a:182c (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Founder of WORLD Magazine. Article's a bit short, but doesn't seem to have too many problems, although there's one detail I couldn't find a citation for yet. Will do more in-depth review later. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 02:18, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Support-the Article's significance Jlvshistory (talk) 04:57, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

As said before, significance does not matter for RD. In this case I’ll weak oppose as there’s a dead link primary source and nearly nothing about his career, making this a stub. Aaron Liu (talk) 12:47, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Note that the user has been informed twice before that significance is irrelevant to RD and acknowledged that in both instances - this is the third time... not trying to WP:BITE a newcomer or anything, especially as RD reviews are lacking compared to blurb reviews, but Jlvshistory, you must understand what Aaron Liu and others have told you, and evaluate solely on article quality in order to be productive in your RD reviews. JM (talk) 12:54, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

@Aaron Liu I've updated the dead-link source to a live source. Reliable sources are citing the source I used so I dropped it on the wikipedia page. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 15:24, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

thats good then, I guess adding more sources can also help Jlvshistory (talk) 14:44, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

• There are currently only 203 words of prose in this stubby wikibio. Anything else to write about the subject? Where is the section on his career? --PFHLai (talk) 10:32, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Now start class with 349 words of prose. I assume expansion would continue, as not everything mentioned in the intro has been elaborated upon in the main prose yet. --PFHLai (talk) 14:05, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

    C I'm working on the article, but I've got a lot of RDs on my hands, so I don't think this one will be ready in time. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 00:40, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bob Beckwith

Article: Bob Beckwith (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [9]
Credits:

• Nominated by CaptainTeebs (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Bob305 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

New York firefighter who received national attention following the September 11 attacks.--CaptainTeebs (talk) 06:37, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Support- Because of the Article significance Jlvshistory (talk) 06:56, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

• Wait - No major issues with the article, but additional sourcing prior to posting would be nice. Notability isn't a factor in RD noms. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (he/him | talk) 08:10, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

  alright Jlvshistory (talk) 08:46, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support - Made the necessary changes. Checked the article against the 6 remaining references. Looks good. I don’t believe you will find additional references. Beckwith became famous because he stood beside George Bush when Bush gave his bullhorn speech 3 days after 9/11. What Beckwith did with his life after that is laudable.Wait I agree: additional sourcing would be good. I’ve checked 4 of the 7 references. Only The NY Post is unreliable, imo. The cause of death as "ground-zero related melanoma" is a “fake news” diagnosis by the NY Post: typical for this rag. Internet & WP searches never mention it as even a syndrome. That won’t work for Wikipedia. There is a page Ground Zero illness which redirects to “Health effects arising from the September 11 attacks.” Of course, the Amer. Assoc. for Cancer Research reports a slightly higher incidence of cancer for 9/11 responders. The section on first responders seems pretty damning and conclusive. Anyhow, the New York Times reports Beckwith’s death as “He died in hospice care after being treated for cancer.” I’ll edit the page in a few hours when I check back in. - Trauma Novitiate (talk) 17:57, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support - per improvements as mentioned above as well. Good to go.BabbaQ (talk) 22:36, 10 February 2024 (UTC)'Italic text'
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 00:09, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) 2024 Salvadoran general election

Article: 2024 Salvadoran general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the 2024 Salvadoran general election, Nayib Bukele (pictured) is re-elected President of El Salvador. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In the 2024 Salvadoran general election, incumbent President of El Salvador Nayib Bukele (pictured) is re-elected.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In the Salvadoran general election, Nayib Bukele (pictured) is re-elected president with over 80% of the vote.
News source(s): Reuters BBC Forbes
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by PizzaKing13 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Borgenland (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

With 70% of the votes counted, some reliable news sources have called the election for Nayib Bukele and several foreign leaders have congratulated him, however, the Supreme Electoral Court (TSE) has yet to make an official announcement. Please notify me if I need an official declaration from the TSE for this nomination, and if I do, I will update this nomination when it's publicized. This election has received significant foreign news coverage and is the first time since 1944 that a Salvadoran president has been re-elected. PizzaKing13 ^¡Hablame! 18:50, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Support Not a single CN tag, a quick scan indicates everything seems cited, very extensive article, a large aftermath section... there's not much more to ask for, except that none of the results tables for municipalities and departments are filled in yet. I don't know if that's a barring issue or not, so I'll wait to !vote and hopefully someone tells me whether or not it's fine. JM (talk) 19:59, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

It appears that not all results have arrived yet, so it's less an issue about updating and more about waiting for them to drop. I think that we could run this as a first blurb, and that something more important to wait for is seat composition in parliament (which also hasn't been updated yet), as it would be interesting to note that the ruling party also has a majority in parliament. ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 20:04, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Support, very well-written and cited, and should be ITN/R if I'm not mistaken. ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 19:59, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Y Done JM (talk) 20:01, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Support, splendid article. Altblurb offered: no need for the year, "incumbent" could be challenged (murky leave of absence business), and the stonking majority is noteworthy. Moscow Mule (talk) 20:52, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Support alt2 per Moscow. Aaron Liu (talk) 21:40, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support alt2 As per above, article seems to be of high quality. There seems to be some unfinished tables in the results section, but I expect these will be filled out soon when the results come out. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 21:44, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support Article is in great shape. The OP's blurb seems fine. We typically don't post the actual margin of victory. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:08, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

  However, the margin of victory typically isn't over 80% either. JM (talk) 22:54, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 00:27, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Earl Cureton

Article: Earl Cureton (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bagumba (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Nohomersryan (talk · give credit) and Mungo Kitsch (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Basketball player who won two NBA championships.—Bagumba (talk) 11:30, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Support articles looks fairly cited. Harvici (talk) 14:21, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Support. With his two championships and how he affected NBA basketball, both as a player and afterward, I feel that this article is worth mentioning in the "recent death" part of Wikipedia's news. Mungo Kitsch (talk) 20:21, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Anyone with a Wikipedia article who dies gets featured on recent deaths as long as the quality is high enough. Significance is irrelevant to being featured on recent deaths. JM (talk) 20:27, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

@JM2023: Good to know. I don't deal with the front page part of Wikipedia that much, but Cureton's article is highly informative and worth the front page's time, IMO. Mungo Kitsch (talk) 20:57, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

@Mungo Kitsch: JM was attempting to convey that RD !votes should comment on how WP:ITNQUALITY is met or not. Regards. —Bagumba (talk) 00:49, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Support, obviously, as the subject's significance Jlvshistory (talk) 02:44, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Note that as said above, significance is not a factor in RDs, only quality JM (talk) 11:43, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

understood Jlvshistory (talk) 15:22, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

@Admins willing to post ITN: Regardless of people being misled by significance, the article seems like it has no issues and no one has opposed yet. Aaron Liu (talk) 12:30, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Date of birth is unreferenced. Schwede66 15:08, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Date of birth is confirmed in all his profiles - NBA.com and basketball-reference.com - linked right in the infobox. Common info like height, weight, birth details, etc. are commonly well known for most professional athletes, at least NBA players. Rikster2 (talk) 15:20, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

@Schwede66: It's now sourced, but is a birthdate (or one potential Cn) a showstopper for an RD? —Bagumba (talk) 16:33, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Posted I’m sensitive to unreferenced birthdays. It either gets referenced or it comes out; I will not post it to the main page until that’s resolved. Schwede66 16:54, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Grammys

Article: 66th Annual Grammy Awards (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At the Grammys, Miley Cyrus' "Flowers" wins Record of the Year, while Taylor Swift's Midnights wins Album of the Year. (Post)
News source(s): NBC liveblog
Credits:

• Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Given the issues on the recent Emmy blurb, this article is likely in worst shape, needing more citations and/or reconsideration of what content should be on there (like # of noms/wins by artist, etc.) Masem (t) 04:36, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose as mentioned by nom. Virtually no prose throughout the article. The Kip 04:43, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Given what the Grammys are, which is a lot of awards, in addition to who presented and performed, this is going to be table heavy. There could be more prose around the ceremony as sites digest the information, but it is not absent prose and what I would expect pre-ceremony is there (nomination process, voting process, and general setup of the ceremony). But a lot of that is unreferenced, and again, while the award/nomination tables can be satisfied by a link to the Grammy's own page, the "# of noms/wins" we have determined cannot be left like that without clear sourcing to support it. It is a ways away. --Masem (t) 05:03, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Due to unsourced tables, particularly 66th Annual Grammy Awards § Multiple nominations and awards, which goes beyond simple WP:CALC. Collating information to find out that someone had 5+ nominations can be error prone. Better to be cited to a reliable source with the exact counts, which also rules out any doubt of an exhaustive table being some WP:OR fancruft (the few leaders can just be handled in prose, and undoubtedly already in reliable sources).—Bagumba (talk) 06:30, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
• Weak oppose – Article indeed needs more prose and citations overall. The "Performers" section gives more details about the ceremony than any other, and it's all written from the perspective of when performers were announced, which is largely no longer of encyclopedic history and just recounting news stories. I don't think the article needs much work to fulfill prose requirements, though. Don't know how necessary citations are for the tables, though I highly doubt we'll find a source counting up all the acts that received exactly two nominations, so there's some original research cruft here that can almost certainly be cut. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 08:13, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Multiple poorly sourced sections, and, as per above, the multiple nominations section might be OR. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 13:42, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose A mass of tables with almost no prose. Modest Genius ^talk 14:39, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Lowitja O'Donoghue

Article: Lowitja O'Donoghue (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-05/tributes-for-indigenous-leader-lowitja-odonoghue/103426290
Credits:

• Nominated by HiLo48 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Australian Aboriginal public administrator and Indigenous rights advocate. A highly regarded Australian. Her article is thorough, though it does have some cn tags. Several editors have been very busy updating the article since her death yesterday at the age of 91, so I'm hoping the tags will disappear. HiLo48 (talk) 01:31, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose based on a few CN tags, but as the nom says I'm confident they'll be cleaned up fairly shortly. The Kip 01:46, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Oppose there are still 3 CN tags. JM (talk) 10:26, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

• Ready All Citation needed tags have now been addressed. HiLo48 (talk) 23:05, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support Article seems to be of sufficient quality. Every paragraph after the lede has citations and there are no CN tags anymore. 70.181.1.68 (talk) 05:53, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
• @Admins willing to post ITN: This is ready and has been ready. We ought to recognize efforts to properly cite and quickly bring an article up to quality. _{Duly signed,} ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 13:51, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
• Posted – Schwede66 15:31, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) 2024 Chile wildfires (Viña del Mar fire)

Article: 2024 Chile wildfires (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Wildfires in the Valparaíso Region of Chile leave at least 131 people dead. (Post)
News source(s): https://www.biobiochile.cl/noticias/nacional/region-de-valparaiso/2024/02/04/aumentan-a-99-personas-fallecidas-por-incendios-forestales-en-valparaiso-solo-32-estan-identificadas.shtml
Credits:

• Nominated by Bedivere (talk · give credit)

Significant event in Chile. Nearly a hundred people are dead as a result of wildfires in Viña del Mar, Quilpué and neighboring area. Bedivere (talk) 23:13, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Support on significance, although a lot of the sources (tweets) could be improved and replaced by better sources if possible. ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 23:33, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality per above due to poor sources, but support on notability. The Kip 00:22, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
• Improve article, then support Significant event, but, as per above, the use of over ten tweets as sources should be changed. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 00:46, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Support on notability but needs to be improved per above JM (talk) 00:49, 5 February 2024 (UTC) quality is fine now JM (talk) 20:09, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Support on notability but oppose on quality per @2G0o2De0l Bremps... 01:26, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Support on notability, but the article quality should be improved before posting, as per above --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 04:37, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Support on notability but articles needs improvement. Harvici (talk) 10:06, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support on Notability the death toll is major, and this is indeed very uncommon. Once article is improved per above, this will be ready. Editor 5426387 (talk) 13:29, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
• Note: at least 112 now dead: [10]. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:42, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support A disaster with a high number of fatalities. It is true that Twitter is too often used as a source, but by referencing tweets from the National Disaster Prevention and Response Service, a verified official account, I don't think it is dramatic to consider the article as ready to be posted. _-_Alsor (talk) 14:36, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

  I think that is the way to go. SENAPRED is an official government service which is continuously detailing the disaster developing. Also, the articles on the SENAPRED website are recurrently updated and so, some details get lost/wiped. Citing tweets, in this case, should be okay. Bedivere (talk) 15:50, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support it is indeed notible since over one hundred people are dead showing that The fire escalation is vast.3000MAX (talk) 18:46, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
• Comment as for quality, I've removed 4 of the 5 "better source needed" because per WP:RSPX if the author is a SME (which Senaprez is) then tweets are fine. There is now only one BSN tag and 0 CN tags. Everything else seems cited, so I think quality is good enough now. JM (talk) 20:08, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

  Would the official delegation of the O'Higgins area, a government organization, count as an SME? Aaron Liu (talk) 20:40, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

  I'm not sure if it's political or civil service, but I don't think it's an SME anyway because it's not specifically a civil defence / disaster relief / emergency preparedness / etc org. But it doesn't really matter for ITN because it's only one tag anyway and it's better than a CN tag. JM (talk) 20:44, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

  The delegation of O'Higgins is the official representative of the President in the region. The post exists since 2021 as the former office of intendant (governor) was abolished and its functions divided between the new presidential regional delegation and the reformed regional government. Bedivere (talk) 00:24, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support. Substantial disaster with a high death toll. The article does have some WP:PROSELINE issues but I think it's now better than our minimum requirements. Modest Genius ^talk 14:38, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support Very notable and deadly wildfire(s); this clearly meets the ITN criteria. I also saw no sourcing issues in the article. Vida0007 (talk) 17:49, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support – Quality is sufficient and it's clearly notable. Getting more eyes on it is probably also the best thing that could happen to it re: continued updates and improvements. Penitentes (talk) 19:55, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
• Article looks Ready to be posted. Just wanted to note also, that this is the deadliest wildfire in the last 15 years worldwide, so it's evidently notable. --Bedivere (talk) 02:47, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

  @Admins willing to post ITN: also see helicopter death above Aaron Liu (talk) 03:03, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

• Posted with 131 dead as of right now. Schwede66 03:22, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Barry John

Article: Barry John (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by The C of E (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Dillbob07 (talk · give credit), GiantSnowman (talk · give credit), Higgins 2007 (talk · give credit), CommissarDoggo (talk · give credit) and JennyOz (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Welsh and British Lions rugby international The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 18:44, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support GA, article looks to be in good shape. The Kip 19:04, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support The only things that really needed to be edited were the infobox, turning is into was and adding to the personal life section, all of which have been done. Helped rather nicely that it was already GA quality. CommissarDoggo^Talk? 19:13, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support - in good condition Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:54, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support suitable quality. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 20:50, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support have now fully referenced. Article near FA quality. JennyOz (talk) 06:26, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 13:02, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Oleg Kononenko sets record for most time in space

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Article: Oleg Kononenko (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Oleg Kononenko sets new record of 878 days in space and as a result has time travelled 0.021 seconds into the future (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by Count Iblis (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Count Iblis (talk) 17:28, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Such records (which likely can be easily broken in the future) are not good for ITN. --Masem (t) 17:39, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Article has two unreferenced sections, and is lacking sources in many other places. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 17:46, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Describing it as "time traveling into the future" is okay for pop science, not for an encyclopedia. ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 17:49, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• Hey Now He's travelled 878 days into the future. That .021 second is just a tiny speck of bonus time, relative to our lowly scores. It doesn't replace the more impressive number. InedibleHulk (talk) 17:54, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose trivia that can be beaten in the future, especially the 0.021 seconds bit. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:20, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per above, maybe better-suited to DYK. The Kip 19:04, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose As this news is better suited for a DYK nom than an ITN nom. Could definitely see it getting approved there. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 19:18, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per above, better suited for DYK. TomMasterReal^TALK 19:45, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

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(Ready) 2024 Senegalese presidential election postponed

Article: 2024 Senegalese presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The President of Senegal Macky Sall indefinitely postpones the presidential election hours before official campaign start (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The 2024 Senegalese presidential election is postponed to 15 December, prompting protests from the opposition.
News source(s): The Guardian, AP
Credits:

• Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)
• Created by PalauanLibertarian (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Borgenland (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: 1st time this has happened; a dispute dispute between the national assembly and the constitutional court over rejection of candidates was given as a reason for the postponement. Lawmakers are also investigating two constitutional council judges whose integrity in the election process has been questioned Abcmaxx (talk) 14:05, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose: Doesn’t seem like an unjust postponement, which decreases its notability especially since the accused haven’t been charged yet and the headline implies foul play. Aaron Liu (talk) 14:44, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Not sure if delayment of an election is notable in its own right. Did we post the Haiti elections getting postponed/cancelled/delayed, by any chance? Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 16:44, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

  Comment Still undecided, but there seems to be protests. Bremps... 02:41, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

  Was the postponement of the Haitian election nominated? Blaylockjam10 (talk) 06:53, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose It doesn't seem like anything has been caused by the postponement yet. Unless some significant event happens due to the postponement, or the election gets cancelled entirely, I don't think we should post, as I don't think the postponement on its own is notable enough. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 19:40, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per above. The Kip 00:22, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Comment We should mention the resulting protests in the blurb. Bremps... 04:01, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Already referred to as a consitutional crisis Bremps... 02:30, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support – I am impressed by the well-written description of events and reactions present in the article. Borgenland did beautiful work expanding the article so quickly, and it seems like a very appropriate feature. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 12:23, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Support I always try to ask myself what I would vote if an ITN item happened in the US instead. The update looks to be sufficient for posting. Bremps... 21:59, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Support alt blurb Postponing an election seems like a significant event, esp. when it’s accompanied by protests. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 11:54, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

• Update: Formally postponed to December 15. In light of that length, I've proposed an altblurb and changed my !vote to support (altblurb). Aaron Liu (talk) 12:37, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support Senegal has been one of the most stable countries on the entire continent; as such, democratic backsliding in it directly affects the whole of West Africa. Article is in acceptable state. Curbon7 (talk) 06:27, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support Sourced, sufficient coverage, good to go now.BabbaQ (talk) 22:46, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Namibia's president Hage Geingob dies

Article: Hage Geingob (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Namibia President Hage Geingob (pictured) dies at the age of 82. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ President of Namibia Hage Geingob (pictured) dies at the age of 82, and is succeeded by Nangolo Mbumba.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Nangolo Mbumba succeeds President of Namibia Hage Geingob (pictured) following his death at 82.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Nangolo Mbumba succeeds Hage Geingob (pictured) as President of Namibia, following the latter's death at 82.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ Nangolo Mbumba becomes President of Namibia.
News source(s): President Hage Geingob is dead
Credits:

• Nominated by Johndavies837 (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Hage Geingob, the head of state and government, died in office after 9 years in power. He also served many years as prime minister. It probably won't get a lot of coverage in the West but a head of state dying in office is pretty rare. Johndavies837 (talk) 02:45, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

• Change in head of state/government, so ITNR item, and proposed altblurb. Reviewing target articles. The Kip 02:50, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
  • I was going to ask if the vice-president automatically takes power until the end of term, or if there is an alternate system in place. If it is the former, absolutely ITNR (but the article has missing citations). Even with that, death of a sitting leader regardless of how the gov't changes would still be a blurbworthy event. --Masem (t) 02:53, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality as most of Geingob's article is woefully under-referenced, including two wholly-uncited sections. The other two are rather short, but as they're not the targets that's less of a concern. The Kip 02:52, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

  Conditional Support once the reference problem is fixed Lukt64 (talk) 02:56, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality due to 3 unreferenced tags, but when those are fixed, support alt blurb. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 03:12, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose it is not fairly cited when it is fixed , Support alt blurb Harvici (talk) 04:33, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability, but yeah, this is going to need work before quality is there to post on the main page. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 05:00, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• Post the new president In such cases, we usually emphasise the incoming leader rather than the outgoing one. In this case, that's Nangolo Mbumba (pictured) as there won't be elections for some time. The death of Geingob is not surprising because he was 82 and in ill-health. RD will suffice for that. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:16, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

  That could've also applied to Elizabeth II. Bremps... 03:35, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

  Elizabeth II ruled for a very long time. Aaron Liu (talk) 03:48, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

• I believe that the cause of death is cancer Heatrave (talk) 10:38, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• Old Man Lives Per Andrew, there's a new 82-year-old "ruling" Namibia and that's the thing to commemorate, not another death. InedibleHulk (talk) 13:07, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurbing new president as that's the ITN/R story, not the death itself. JM (talk) 13:51, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• Created alt blurb 2 Seems the support is more towards Nangolo Mbumba then the former president, And the picture, if this blurb is used, is the one above this post in replacement of the one in the box. TheCorriynial (talk) 16:22, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support alt blurb 3, clearest of all the alt blurbs, whilst also showing which is the ITN/R event (the new president) as opposed to the one that is more suited for RD (the old president dying). Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 19:21, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support alt3, same arguments as above. Mr. Lechkar (talk) 22:13, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support as ITN/R; suggest alt2 This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 23:23, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality: Geingob's article is still a mess. Aaron Liu (talk) 23:40, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

  Support alt3 as Geingob's article isn't featured and it is clearer than alt2 Aaron Liu (talk) 13:07, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support alt1 pending improvements Geingob's article needs a lot of sourcing work. When the article is ready, my preferred blurbs are alt1 and alt2 in that order, but I don't oppose any of the proposed blurbs. I think the death of an incumbent is blurbworthy on its own, even if their advanced age made their passing seem inevitable (I am imagining how I'd !vote if this blurb were about the 81 year old Biden being succeeded by Harris, that'd likely be considered a notable death and not just RD-worthy). Maybe the picture can be Geingob at first and change to Mbumba after some time has passed?  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 00:14, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

  What about a double image? Bremps... 02:34, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

  That's a good idea, I'd support a double image as well  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 03:31, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

• Comment might be a copyright violation. There's a lack of EXIF data and it was cross-wiki-uploaded right after Nangolo Mbumba succeeded Hage Geingob. Bremps... 00:57, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

  We can replace it with . Bremps... 02:09, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

  According to Bloomberg, the image is from a national ministry. However, I can't find that ministry's policy, nor can I find where they have it. Aaron Liu (talk) 02:29, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

  Occam's razor suggests that a new user was enthusiastic about contributing to free knowledge but forgot to check if their contribution was actually free. Bremps... 02:36, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

  Obviously. I'm thinking about how we could perhaps retain that image, which is clearly superior in neutrality Aaron Liu (talk) 03:01, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

  Gotcha. The cowboy one is weird, so we can replace it with this image if we achieve consensus: . Upside is that the picture shows him in a suit, downside is that it's old enough to drive and depicts him with a black eye (?).
  

  There's also a guy called Kashindi Ausiku on YouTube who uploads his clips freely licensed (praise be), and has filmed Nangolo Mbumba several times. Would appreciate it if you or anyone else looked through his videos to find anything suitable. Bremps... 03:23, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

  Yeah,the cowboy one seems much better in comparison. Aaron Liu (talk) 03:50, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

  @Bremps I don't follow Namibian politics much, and I don't know what kind of videos would feature Mbumba. Would you kindly give me some pointers on what kind of video titles from Ausiku would feature Mbumba? Thanks in advance. Aaron Liu (talk) 20:24, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o6CNeKdBLk4

  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kdISnMvha60

  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o6CNeKdBLk4

  These videos are guaranteed to contain Mbumba (and are also freely licensed), though I haven't found any good frames of our guy. A second set of eyes would be great. Bremps... 00:13, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

• Comment It may be best to have both articles bolded. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 06:56, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

  Support alt blurbs 2 or 3 While I’d probably consider a blurb that has both articles bolded the best solution, alt blurbs 2 & 3 are the best blurbs right now since Mbumba’s article is the only article that’s good enough to be posted. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 11:45, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support Alt Blurb 2 or 3 a death of a current head in state is always important enough to post Setarip (talk) 15:36, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support - Geingob was the sitting president and he should be mentioned in the main page. Scanlan (talk) 02:19, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

• Strong Support This needs to be posted. It’s the death of a sitting president

2A02:CE0:1800:32B2:7416:8B10:B877:7E31 (talk) 13:05, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

• Comment There may be clear support to post on significance, but the article needs sourcing badly before anything can be done. There are orange tags and that's going to block any post until those can get resolved. --Masem (t) 13:20, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

  Maybe we can unlink Geingob? Aaron Liu (talk) 13:50, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

  Or write him out entirely and just treat this like a new president blurb (which it is). InedibleHulk (talk) 19:30, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

  We'd preferably want a good picture for that, though I suppose that could be an option. Aaron Liu (talk) 20:23, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

  I've added an altblurb, wording changes welcome. Aaron Liu (talk) 20:27, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

  I removed "after the previous incumbent's death at age 82", figuring it wholly antithetical to writing him out entirely. I'm not sure I want a picture of the clear and present president enough to wait for one. Sometimes linked names are informative enough (especially when the What, When, How and Other Who are explained by the second sentence). InedibleHulk (talk) 22:34, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

  Burying the lede (that us, trying to the poor quality article on Geingob) is to me unacceptable. This is ignoring the death of a sitting world leader. Masem (t) 20:31, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

  But to not ignore that would be to ignore the entire situation. Aaron Liu (talk) 20:35, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

  Which is why editors that want this posted should be spending the time improving Geingob's article. We have missed previous transitions of power due to article quality, we're not bound to post those just because it meets ITNR. — Masem (t) 02:43, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  Or, we can choose to not feature the low-quality article by unlinking it. Aaron Liu (talk) 12:35, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  @Masem: I thought the bolded article is the only article that matters in terms of article quality? If so, alt blurbs 2-4 are fine. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 05:25, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  When this was first nominated it was Geingob's article that was bolded. Even with the alt blurbs that remove that, I feel it is completely inappropriate to skip over that as having a head-of-state bio article in that poor of a condition is just bad, it should be part of the featured articles in the blurb. — Masem (t) 13:35, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  Either we make that concession or we skip out of posting this thing entirely. Aaron Liu (talk) 14:29, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

• Too many paragraphs of unsourced prose. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 00:51, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) The Tortured Poets Department

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Article: The Tortured Poets Department (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Singer Taylor Swift announces her eleventh studio album, The Tortured Poets Department, during the 66th Annual Grammy Awards. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Singer Taylor Swift announces her eleventh studio album, The Tortured Poets Department.
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Bsoyka (talk · give credit)
• Created by Dylx (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Flabshoe1 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Hey all! This is my first time nominating at ITN, so please forgive me if I'm missing something. This seems like a significant announcement that is already appearing in major news sources and I feel it should be mentioned here. Thanks in advance for the feedback and corrections! Bsoyka (t • c • g) 03:28, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Oppose good faith nomination Welcome to ITN. At the very least, we should post the actual album release instead of an announcement. However, the release of a creative work is seldom (if at all) featured on ITN due to concerns over being promotional. Cheers, Bremps... 03:32, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Gotcha, that makes complete sense—I appreciate the helpful note. Bsoyka (t • c • g) 03:37, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

It also usually isn't big news that most people would otherwise search for on WP instead of, e.g., just streaming it. Aaron Liu (talk) 03:51, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Taylor Swift announcing an album isn't notable enough for ITN. Welcome here, hope this doesn't scare you from contributing — it's never a bad thing to try! ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 03:38, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose good faith nom, per above. The Kip 03:40, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

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