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May 15
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PM of Singapore
Blurb: Lawrence Wong (pictured) becomes Prime Minister of Singapore following the resignation of Lee Hsien Loong (Post)
Alternative blurb: Following the resignation of Lee Hsien Loong, Lawrence Wong (pictured) becomes Prime Minister of Singapore
Alternative blurb II: After ruling for twenty years, Lee Hsien Loong resigns and Lawrence Wong (pictured) becomes Prime Minister of Singapore
Alternative blurb III: After two decades, Lee Hsien Loong resigns as Prime Minister of Singapore, succeeded by Lawrence Wong (pictured)
News source(s): BBC, AP News
Credits:
- Nominated by Classicwiki (talk · give credit)
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Could not quite figure out how to word this blurb in the best way. Lee Hsien Loong has ruled Singapore for nearly twenty years and his successor, Lawrence Wong, is taking over today. Figured highlighting both articles because they are extensive. --Classicwiki (talk) 04:47, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support blurb II , Important to note that Lee Hsien Loong has been in power for many years User:GodzillamanRor (talk) 20:01, 2 November 2024 UTC [refresh]
May 14
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RD: Shirley Conran
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Guardian
Credits:
- Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
- Created by Whoby (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Quite a big name in her day. I'd be suggesting a blurb but we don't have a free picture, alas. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:43, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support , article is well sourced and easy to read Sharrdx (talk) 15:30, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support, per above. -- Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 16:13, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
May 13
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Blurb/RD: Alice Munro
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb: Canadian short story writer and Nobel laureate Alice Munro (pictured) dies at age 92 (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:
- Nominated by Mooonswimmer (talk · give credit)
- Updated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)
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Awards and honours are largely unsourced. Mooonswimmer 16:29, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support Nobel Prize in Literature Laureate. Once awards and honours are sourced. -- Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 16:40, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, I have went through and cited most of them. I think the dates on one or two of them are wrong, and some sources contradict each other, but overall in much better shape. -- Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 17:46, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article looks in good shape. I'll be bold to even suggest blurb support given how she "revolutionized" short stories and most of her obituaries describe her as a pioneer of short storytelling. I know she was in her 90s, but it appears she was at the top of field in terms of storytelling/short storytelling. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 19:07, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Article looks good. Support blurb due to her Nobel Prize and significance as a short story writer, especially an Anglophone writer. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 21:30, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Simply being a Nobel winner is not sufficient for a blurb. There should be a significant amount of discussion on the article to demonstrate they were considered a great figure in their field. — Masem (t) 21:47, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Masem: Currently working on a legacy section that ideally would show how her works impacted the short story form. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 22:23, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- There is perhaps some parts under the Writing header that could be moved under the new Legacy section like the comparison to Chekhov. Masem (t) 04:32, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the note. Did just that. I'll try expanding her legacy/career sections some more, but I think the writing section covers parts where the career section doesn't. I'd like the idea to make the writing section a subsection of her career section, but not sure if it's the right move. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:43, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- There is perhaps some parts under the Writing header that could be moved under the new Legacy section like the comparison to Chekhov. Masem (t) 04:32, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Masem: Currently working on a legacy section that ideally would show how her works impacted the short story form. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 22:23, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Simply being a Nobel winner is not sufficient for a blurb. There should be a significant amount of discussion on the article to demonstrate they were considered a great figure in their field. — Masem (t) 21:47, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose blurb We're not blurbing every Nobel prize winner. There's around, 10 per year? Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 22:20, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Chaotic Enby: From my perspective at least, I'm supporting a blurb not because she won a Nobel prize, but because of her impact in the short story writing field. She has been widely described as a master and influential figure in that field. Currently adding a legacy section to demonstrate this. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 22:30, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose blurb, but on quality For someone who is being suggested as a blurb, I'd expect a far more in-depth article than this - it's less than 2000 words of prose. That's not to deprecate the work that people have done on it today - that was great - but it's simply too thin. Her "Career" section is ridiculously short and writes off entire decades in a sentence. For example
From the 1980s to 2012, Munro published a short-story collection at least once every four years. First versions of Munro's stories have appeared in journals such as The Atlantic Monthly, Grand Street, Harper's Magazine, Mademoiselle, The New Yorker, Narrative Magazine, and The Paris Review. Her collections have been translated into 13 languages
That's it for 30 years? Black Kite (talk) 23:02, 14 May 2024 (UTC) - Oppose blurb per Black Kite. Why is this now a blurb nom? Because she's a Nobel laureate? Are we going to have blurb discussions for every Nobel laureate? We shouldn't. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:28, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- To be fair, my rationale for a blurb is not that she's a nobel winner, it's that (based on obits/commentary about her works/justifications for awards) describe her as a pioneer in short story telling with her works leveling her to top of her field in terms of a writer. That's why I support this nom being a blurb. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:44, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support blurb - Top of her field, winner of numerous top prizes and honors (not just the Nobel), an iconic female writer… and now that TDKR Chicago has laudably expanded the legacy section, I get a much better idea of her importance and in ITN terms, “blurb-worthiness.” The ITN opposes leave me utterly unconvinced, and I’m with TDKR’s rebuttal above. Every obit I have seen mentions her major impact on the short story form and her substantial influence therein, giving a female point of view at a time when it was not a common phenomenon as well as in many of her works a Canadian perspective. Inclusive, of international interest, and highly worthy of a front page Wikipedia blurb in the ITN feature. To those on the fence, I suggest reading an obit or two. The NYT one is good as is this onein The Guardian. Jusdafax (talk) 01:41, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
RD:Cyril Wecht
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS News
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
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American forensic pathologist.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 05:40, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose various cn tags and needs more sources. PrinceofPunjabTALK 06:15, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: Sushil Kumar Modi
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Indian Express
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
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Indian Politician.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 02:04, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose positions held section needs sourcing and there are some paragraphs ending without a footnote. PrinceofPunjabTALK 06:14, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article reads well and overall, it's adequately referenced. Jiaminglimjm (talk) 13:09, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: Samm-Art Williams
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hollywood Reporter
Credits:
- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:D5ED:1620:B68D:586C (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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American actor and playwright. 240F:7A:6253:1:D5ED:1620:B68D:586C (talk) 01:46, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose multiple cn tags. PrinceofPunjabTALK 06:13, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: Birubala Rabha
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ThePrint
Credits:
- Nominated by PrinceofPunjab (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Indian Anti-witch hunting activist. Article looks ready to me. PrinceofPunjabTALK 17:19, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support look ready to be posted. LiamKorda 11:04, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support per above. -- Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 15:53, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support per above. It’s ready for posting. Jusdafax (talk) 23:57, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: Arthur Irving
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC News
Credits:
- Nominated by B3251 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Canadian billionaire businessman who owned Irving Oil, a part of the family-owned conglomerate Irving Group of Companies. B3251 (talk) 18:10, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support article looks good to me. PrinceofPunjabTALK 06:12, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support article is well sourced. LiamKorda 11:05, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Remove Myanmar civil war from ongoing
Insufficient updates to the main article for ongoing. Last 50 edits go back to April, no significant updates for May. Stephen 01:49, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Timeline The timeline has an update for May so we should add that like the other wars. The NYT recently published a detailed briefing so it's still in the news. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think one update for the month of May is sufficient, especially when compared to, let's say, the Ukraine war, which was multiple updates every single day. Support removal. DecafPotato (talk) 07:56, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- I just added two significant developments and so now May has three entries. It was easy. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:37, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think one update for the month of May is sufficient, especially when compared to, let's say, the Ukraine war, which was multiple updates every single day. Support removal. DecafPotato (talk) 07:56, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Mild support removal with regular review - The situation is rapidly changing, and I think there could be new developments in the future that make this notable again. But as of now, it's not being updated or covered enough to be ongoing. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 10:46, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Wait Checking news sites now gives me multiple such as AP, and Al Jazeera which both have articles out about the conflict in the last week. While I agree that this has gotten significantly less coverage then other wars it is not quite ready to pull. I think that the lack of news coverage is due to overshadowing and english audiences not having interest. The conflict is a bit confusing for major sources to run regular stories on. We need to wait to make a decicion, though I agree that there needs to be disscussion on removing it. Normalman101 (talk) 15:12, 13 May 2024 (UTC) AP ALJ
- Oppose article not getting update is a editing issue. Because otherwise the fighting is still very much going on. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:42, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Even if an event is ongoing, if no one is bothered to update our article, that is reason to remove from ongoing. — Masem (t) 20:22, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- For an article to remain listed on ongoing, it must be being actively updated. That there is still fighting occurring does not matter if the article is not receiving updates. Curbon7 (talk) 21:05, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per PrinceofPunjab. LiamKorda 17:14, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose it's still ongoing. BilboBeggins (talk) 17:26, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support ongoing's become a pointless "what wars flared up in the last 1.5 years" ticker. Many wars around the world are still ongoing, the Myanmar civil war simply is not in the news enough to justify keeping it here. AryKun (talk) 11:49, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose due to the fact that the war is still very much ongoing and active Lukt64 (talk) 18:53, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
May 12
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RD: A. J. Smith
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:
- Nominated by Natg 19 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Classicwiki (talk · give credit)
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NFL executive, needs some work. Natg 19 (talk) 00:26, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Almost ready two cn tags needs to be fixed.PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:43, 13 May 2024 (UTC)- @PrinceofPunjab, I updated, re-arranged, and found some sources. -- Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 18:54, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ready article is good enough now. PrinceofPunjabTALK 06:11, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- @PrinceofPunjab, I updated, re-arranged, and found some sources. -- Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 18:54, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
2024 Afghanistan–Pakistan floods
Blurb: More than 500 people died due to floods in Afghanistan and Pakistan. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Flash floods in Baghlan Province, Afghanistan, kill at least 131 people.
Alternative blurb II: Flash floods in Baghlan Province, Afghanistan, kill at least 131 people, bringing the total death toll to floods from this season to almost 500.
News source(s): The Guardian, AP, BBC, VOA, CNN
Credits:
- Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)
Ainty Painty (talk) 06:04, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support article should be expanded a bit but otherwise it looks okay. PrinceofPunjabTALK 06:30, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support but needs to be expanded. LiamKorda 10:12, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Stale. The floods began in March. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 Stupid stuff I did 12:26, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support Looks decent enough with continued coverage.BabbaQ (talk) 13:26, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Mostly Stale Some death and bodycounting continues, but the lion's share was in March and April; maybe Ongoing works? InedibleHulk (talk) 17:06, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ongoing would imply regular blurb-worthy updates, which doesn't appear to be the case here. Disagree with that possibility. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 17:08, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- On second look, you're right.
I saw May news in the reflist, but not in the body. I choose Oppose. InedibleHulk (talk) 17:15, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- On second look, you're right.
- Ongoing would imply regular blurb-worthy updates, which doesn't appear to be the case here. Disagree with that possibility. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 17:08, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Misleading, appears like 500 people died suddenly while this wasn't the case, this happened during a period of two months. Also, the current merge discussion is still open, and already was last time this was discussed. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 17:11, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per all above. Stale. _-_Alsor (talk) 17:50, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support The floods in Baghlan, Afghanistan itself with 300 deaths warrants a post ITN. They are definitely not stale, and the article mentions it, thus making the article not stale. Jiaminglimjm (talk) 19:38, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- I thought I saw May in the body. On third look, you're right. But it's unclear (to me) from reading the sources if these are new deaths or part of a newly updated bodycount. If they're new, you might have a case. But if they've just been Taliban-tallied now, not so much. It'd be weird if ~60% of everyone who's died since March 6 died on Friday. Weirder things happen, though. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:54, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- For clarity in those following along at home, the part about what happened in May looks different now. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:10, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
On 11 May, the Afghan World Food Program office said the floods killed 330 people
. Does "On 11 May" refer to the date of the report only (with the deaths being cumulative), or also to the date of the 330 deaths? Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 20:58, 12 May 2024 (UTC)- That's the report date, for Afghanistan only (after looking at the sources three times to make sure, anyway). If I were trying to say the floods killed 330 people on 11 May, I'd write it in that order. I can see how it's potentially ambiguous wherever it goes, though; rewrite if you know a clearer way. I'm pretty sure the infobox and lead are overcounting the total somehow, too. But that's just another problem. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:50, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- There's also another UN department telling AFP on May 11 that over 200 died on May 10. That complicates things. The Taliban, in the same news article, announced 62 died that same day (Friday flash flood and Friday report), but that's not necessarily a contradiction, because Saturday (May 11) came later. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:02, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- As of Saturday (May 11/11 May), the interior ministry counted deaths from the Friday flood in Baghlan province alone at 131 and the UN 218. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:35, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Altblurbed to focus on the Baghlan part. As of now, I neither support nor oppose this angle. The article doesn't say enough about it, yet. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:51, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Trying alt2 here to include the death count to date. --Masem (t) 22:56, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- And I changed your "over" to "almost" (330 was mistaken for 430 in an earlier article version). InedibleHulk (talk) 23:08, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Trying alt2 here to include the death count to date. --Masem (t) 22:56, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support altblurb 2 the altblurb addresses the above concerns about the clarity of the death toll. FlipandFlopped ツ 02:30, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - Stale item, as mentioned above. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 10:46, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support Not stale per article dates, needs to be expanded as mentioned above, but adaquately sourced and still ongoing Normalman101 (talk) 18:02, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: David Sanborn
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:
- Nominated by Dilettante (talk · give credit)
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Amwrican saxophonist. Orange tag. Sincerely, Dilettante 22:20, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose orange tag: discography, filmography, Broadcasting and Recordings sections are all unsourced. PrinceofPunjabTALK 06:10, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support after cleanup. Influential saxophonist in the jazz fusion era. dekema (Formerly Buffaboy) (talk) 14:49, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
May 11
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RD: Susan Backlinie
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT Fox
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First Victim in Jaws and acted in several Spielberg movies Normalman101 (talk) 18:27, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose filmography and other sections are unsourced. PrinceofPunjabTALK 06:08, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: Jasper White (chef)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Boston Globe
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Chef.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 15:18, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article seems generally well-sourced. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose multiple cn tags. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:46, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- @PrinceofPunjab, all cn tags have been addressed. -- Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 15:48, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: Ron Ellis
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.nhl.com/news/ron-ellis-dead-at-79 , https://www.iihf.com/en/news/60859/ron_ellis_1945-2024 , https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/ron-ellis-dead-at-79-1.7201746 , https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-ron-ellis-who-played-over-1000-games-with-maple-leafs-dead-at-79/
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Canadian professional ice hockey. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 10:05, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose nearly a dozen cn tags, orange tag and career statistics-International play sections are unsourced. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:47, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Blurb/RD: Roger Corman
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb: American filmmaker Roger Corman (pictured) dies at the age of 98 (Post)
News source(s): Variety, Hollywood Reporter, AP
Credits:
- Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Its going to take a lot of sourcing work to get ready for posting. (Note, died on the 9th but this is first report of his death) --Masem (t) 02:56, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Strong Support RD once it's up to code. Heck, if I'm willing to be so bold, I would even Support blurb given how he employed/mentored several directors that ended up becoming transformative in the film industry, such as Francis Ford Coppola, Martin Scorsese, James Cameron, as well as playing a role in launching the extremely influential New Hollywood period. Mount Patagonia (talk • contributions) 04:41, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose RD a very significant part of the article is unsourced. Oppose Blurb he is not the most influential filmmaker of our time. PrinceofPunjabTALK 05:01, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support blurb. One of the most influential filmmakers in Hollywood. Had received Academy Award and had decades long career. BilboBeggins (talk) 06:50, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support blurb: Once the article is improved. Article shows nobility and how Corman was, according to the article itself, a pioneer of New Hollywood. Definitely influential in his field. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 08:28, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support blurb Once article is up to scratch, transformative figure in Cinema. yorkshiresky (talk) 10:11, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose blurb He clealrly an influential person in his field but I don't he is blurb-worthy. LiamKorda 10:14, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose blurb, as much I watch B films, off the top of my head I can't name a single Corman-directed film and our article admits his directorial filmography ended by the 1970s. Apparently a less-known tier than Francis Ford Coppola or Steven Spielberg. Brandmeistertalk 13:04, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose blurb I don’t see how he transformed cinema in the same way his contemporaries Andrei Tarkovsky and Sergio Leone did.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 13:56, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose blurb Even as an American, he does not appear to be a truly transformative figure in the film industry way that is necessary to justify a blurb. Jackattack1597 (talk) 14:36, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose RD due to lots of unsourced statements, especially in the early parts of his Career section. Oppose blurb in general- old man dies. -- Kicking222 (talk) 15:56, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose blurb, far from the transformative level we expect for a blurb and, while he helped mentor many extremely influential filmmakers, he sadly didn't rise to that level himself. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 16:14, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support blurb Once article is up to standards. Important figure in Cinema. Academy Award and had decades long career, 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:27, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Old Man Dies Again, no disrespect, but once again, there's nothing to learn from this "news" except how old he finally became. InedibleHulk (talk) 17:11, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support blurb. Shaped our current pop culture landscape as much as, and indeed probably more than, Stan Lee, and we gave him a blurb. Daniel Case (talk) 22:25, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose blurb So many people can reach the bar of influence that Corman had. We're giving them all death blurbs? We shouldn't. This is what the RD section was made for. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:27, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose blurb - Per above PrecariousWorlds (talk) 00:38, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- There's at least 30 paragraphs that don't end with a reference. As well as plenty of other unreferenced information. Stephen 00:40, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support RD Influencial person, with a good article. I won't be so bold as to support a blurb but i think that the definitely deserves the RD. Seems like the issues have been fixed. Normalman101 (talk) 19:49, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support RD - Seems like some of the issues have been fixed, could use some more sourcing, but overall not bad. -- Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 15:34, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Still a great number of unsourced paragraphs and cn tags. — Masem (t) 16:14, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Not ready I’ve placed about a dozen citation needed tags plus an orange tag. Schwede66 16:22, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) Eurovision Song Contest 2024
Blurb: Nemo, representing Switzerland, wins the Eurovision Song Contest with "The Code". (Post)
Alternative blurb: Switzerland, represented by Nemo with "The Code", wins the Eurovision Song Contest.
News source(s): Sky News
Credits:
- Nominated by BabbaQ (talk · give credit)
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
- Comment The event article (i.e. bold Eurovision Song Contest 2024) is ITN/R. Kingsif (talk) 23:02, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Technical oppose 1. Detailed results (and Bezençon awards) need adding/refs, 2. Split out the controversies with a sufficient summary at the main article. Kingsif (talk) 23:10, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Quality issues There's a few sections lacking sources, but its close. I don't think it matters if the controversy section is split off or not, though key is leaving a key summary would be required. But all the results have combos of prose and tables and most everything is ready. Also, I believe it is still the country that wins the award, not the performer (though they still should be named) so it should be something like "Switzerland, represented by the song "The Code" performed by Nemo, wins the Eurovision Song Contest 2024". --Masem (t) 23:21, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Added altblurb - azpineapple | T/C 06:37, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Oppose on quality Detailed results section needs more refrences.PrinceofPunjabTALK 04:58, 12 May 2024 (UTC)- Oppose Article is way too long and very difficult to read in its current format. Needs some forks in order to make it more reader-friendly. Abcmaxx (talk) 07:16, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose article is way too long to read, due to excessive amounts of detail bordering on WP:TRIVIA like the "postcard" table, complete voting list, and lists of spokespersons. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:43, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- And Nemo (rapper) article is also barely more than a stub, career section needs significant expansion before this could be considered to meet WP:ITNQUALITY. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:45, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think we usually bold link the artist? Kingsif (talk) 10:50, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- And the contest article has an orange tag for neutrality related to the section on Israel. So all in all, we don't have an article anywhere near meeting WP:ITNQUALITY. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:53, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hopefully resolved that part. Getting the article trimmed? Harder. Kingsif (talk) 17:59, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- The content of the Eurovision articles is governed by the guidelines at WP:EUROVISION, which were updated last year after a discussion. Therefore, so long as a section is in the guidelines it's reasonable to assume that it has some consensus for inclusion. A.D.Hope (talk) 18:21, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Whether a section has consensus for inclusion in the article, and whether it makes the article too long to read for someone getting there from the Main Page, are two different things. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 18:33, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure they are two different things. If a section has consensus for inclusion then it presumably isn't generally considered to make the article unreasonably long. A particular example of the section in a given Eurovision Song Contest article might be bloated, but it can always be trimmed. A.D.Hope (talk) 22:43, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Whether a section has consensus for inclusion in the article, and whether it makes the article too long to read for someone getting there from the Main Page, are two different things. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 18:33, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- And Nemo (rapper) article is also barely more than a stub, career section needs significant expansion before this could be considered to meet WP:ITNQUALITY. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:45, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality, especially given the orange tagged section for neutrality. That's not the kind of stuff we want on the main page. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 15:33, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support as of my time, the article has been improved and there are no longer any CN or Neutrality tags (I addressed two outstanding CN tags myself). I respectfully disagree with the concerns about length. The abundance of charts/tables is broadly consistent with how Eurovision articles are formatted - see, for example, Eurovision Song Contest 2023. In terms of the associated controversies and chronology, this article is longer because there is more to say about this year's event: it was more discussed in the press, it had more politics, more protests, and more drama. An event being MORE discussed resulting in there being MORE to say about it (thus creating a longer article) is the exact reason the article should make it to ITN... not vice versa. It seems strange and very bureaucratic for "this event was more notable and more widely discussed this year, and I don't like how that that made the article longer" to be essentially the reason that this nom is torpedoed. It is ITNR. FlipandFlopped ツ 02:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- It still has the WP:TRIVIA like the "postcard" table, complete voting list, and lists of spokespersons. Removing or condensing those into a couple of paragraphs of text would make the article more manageable to read. Just because it's similar to other years, that doesn't mean that those aren't trivia. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:59, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have commented out the postcard table for now pending a discussion whether this does violate TRIVIA. I strongly dispute the claim that spokespersons and the complete voting breakdown would constitute trivia however. The spokespersons are seen on camera and considerable media attention is given, within Eurovision fandom and also elsewhere, about who each country chooses as their spokesperson, and their "performance" on the night. As for the "complete voting list" I'm not entirely sure what you mean with this? Are you referring to the voting tables in the "Detailed results" section? I would imagine that in a contest where countries vote for each other's entries that how each country voted would be incredibly relevant to the article. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 15:03, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- For the record, I agree with you completely. The postcards are indeed pushing it, but everything else mentioned by @Joseph2302 are, in fact, the exact sort of content which I would anticipate that someone who types "Eurovision 2024" on Wikipedia to be searching for. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if people are searching up the article, not reading most of the "substance", and beelining it just to those tables for the easy quick reference guide that they offer. The tables are one of the most valuable parts of the article! FlipandFlopped ツ 21:32, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have commented out the postcard table for now pending a discussion whether this does violate TRIVIA. I strongly dispute the claim that spokespersons and the complete voting breakdown would constitute trivia however. The spokespersons are seen on camera and considerable media attention is given, within Eurovision fandom and also elsewhere, about who each country chooses as their spokesperson, and their "performance" on the night. As for the "complete voting list" I'm not entirely sure what you mean with this? Are you referring to the voting tables in the "Detailed results" section? I would imagine that in a contest where countries vote for each other's entries that how each country voted would be incredibly relevant to the article. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 15:03, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- It still has the WP:TRIVIA like the "postcard" table, complete voting list, and lists of spokespersons. Removing or condensing those into a couple of paragraphs of text would make the article more manageable to read. Just because it's similar to other years, that doesn't mean that those aren't trivia. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:59, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support I think article is ready now. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:49, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support article is good enough to be posted. LiamKorda 17:13, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support article looks good and is ready as stated above, quality issues seem to be fixed Normalman101 (talk) 18:06, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 23:55, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
2023–2024 Georgian protests
Blurb: Large-scale protests are held in Georgia over parliamentary backing of a Russian-modelled proposed "Law on Transparency of Foreign Influence". (Post)
News source(s): France24 via MSN, The Times, BBC News
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)
- Updated by HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith (talk · give credit) and Nivzaq (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Nominator's comments: In the news globally, and the scale of protests is huge given the country's relatively small population, significant globally geo-politically. Today marks probably the biggest amount of people on the streets. The article needs work with the latest updates, and possibly should be split from the (successful) 2023 protests. The blurb I suggested is very clunky therefore please feel free to add alternatives. Abcmaxx (talk) 19:41, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment if there were big protests today, the article should have events on May 10/11/12, but the last date involves the arrests of a few people on May 9. Also, I really dislike featuring an article that is 90% proseline, but that's alonger term improvement issue. --Masem (t) 23:23, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Updated with references now. Abcmaxx (talk) 14:05, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support. Important news. BilboBeggins (talk) 06:51, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose for now While these events may be significant enough for a blurb, the article does not have enough up to date information on the recent protests. I only see 2 sentences on events occurring within the past week; that is not enough recent news to warrant a blurb. Jackattack1597 (talk) 14:38, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Jackattack1597: What is it specifically that you believe is missing that is not already covered by the article? Abcmaxx (talk) 07:55, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support after revision The subject matter is important and the protests are happening now in scale, but the article needs a lot of work. Due to the nature of the article it has far more content about 23'-april 24' then anything happening now. for events after may 3rd there is only 3 sentences I can see. With some work I would say fully support. Normalman101 (talk) 18:17, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support on notability, oppose on quality per Normalman101. FlipandFlopped ツ 21:35, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Update has now been majorly updated and expanded. Abcmaxx (talk) 13:57, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- There is still a lot to be done, but this is hitting the front pages, might need to be split like you suggested before going on main. AP, WP BBC Normalman101 (talk) 15:06, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- I can't split it unless theres a clear consensus which means a lot more votes and comments on the proposal, and a non-involved admin closes it. If you could specify what exactly you believe needs doing I can try and do it in the meantime Abcmaxx (talk) 17:24, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- There is still a lot to be done, but this is hitting the front pages, might need to be split like you suggested before going on main. AP, WP BBC Normalman101 (talk) 15:06, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support post update. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 18:37, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support in principle but oppose on quality. Major protests drawing international attention. The article is long and has a lot of references but is still a mess. There's an ongoing proposal to split it into two, an orange-tagged section, multiple sections of WP:PROSELINE, paragraphs/sections with only one sentence etc. It requires a heavy copyedit and reorganisation of the sections before I would be comfortable making it a bold link in ITN. Modest Genius talk 19:08, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: Mary Wells Lawrence
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
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American advertising executive.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 18:01, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose article needs more sources. PrinceofPunjabTALK 05:07, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support Interesting and influential subject. One relevant slogan was for Ford, "Quality is Job 1". The quality of this article is fine. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:59, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- About 10 {cn} tags remaining. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 11:59, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Surjit Patar
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
Credits:
- Nominated by PrinceofPunjab (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Needs a bit work. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support there is one cn tag but otherwise okay. LiamKorda 10:15, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support Tag has been fixed, and article looks fine for RD. Jackattack1597 (talk) 14:39, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - looks good to go.BabbaQ (talk) 18:39, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but this doesn't look ready to me. Schwede66 03:30, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Strong oppose - multiple CN tags and a clarification needed tag. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 Stupid stuff I did 07:38, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Pinging@Schwede66 and @Jalapeño, all the cn tags have been resolved. Please take an another look. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:34, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Posted – Schwede66 00:43, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
May 10
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RD: Christopher Edley Jr.
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:
- Nominated by Staraction (talk · give credit)
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Likely will need more work / expansion. Staraction (talk | contribs) 17:07, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: Gerhard Müller (Lutheran theologian)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): FAZ and others
Credits:
- Updated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Lutheran theologian and bishop (of Brunswick) who combined both functions. I expanded a stub. German has more detail but sadly without sources, and searches for this very common name are tricky, - help welcome. He died on his 95th birthday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:55, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support article looks ready to me. PrinceofPunjabTALK 17:54, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: Mary Banotti
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Irish Times
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
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Irish politician.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 18:18, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Neutral article meets bare minimum requirement, but there should more information regarding her 20 years as an MEP. PrinceofPunjabTALK 17:56, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: Jim Peterson
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Toronto Star
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
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Canadian politician.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 17:49, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose there is a need for more sources. PrinceofPunjabTALK 17:57, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Sam Rubin
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Sammi Brie (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Sunshineisles2 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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American TV entertainment reporter. Article tripled in size and fortified with 20+ new references. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 08:40, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
Weak oppose Article looks mostly fine, but there are still some issues. The infobox has some stuff that isn't in the prose and also unsourced, namely the names of his spouses, how long he was married to them and how many children he had with each of them (prose just says that he was twice married and has four kids), and that he won the "Associated Press Television and Radio Award" (not mentioned in prose at all). Also his DoB isn't in the prose and is unsourced as well. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 10:19, 11 May 2024 (UTC)- @MonarchOfTerror: Tried to clean up some of this. There is a bit of a likely circular reference issue with any ref from the last 24 hours. Unfortunately sources about his first wife are nonexistent, so I had to excise that altogether. Was able to cite the DoB. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:42, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Article quality looks sufficient for RD now, support. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 19:30, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- @MonarchOfTerror: Tried to clean up some of this. There is a bit of a likely circular reference issue with any ref from the last 24 hours. Unfortunately sources about his first wife are nonexistent, so I had to excise that altogether. Was able to cite the DoB. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:42, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 02:08, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) May 2024 solar storms
Blurb: Major solar storms impact the Earth, creating displays of Northern Lights (pictured) at southerly latitudes. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, CNN, NYT, NOAA Space Weather Center
Credits:
- Nominated by 75.81.94.213 (talk · give credit)
- Created by UpEpSilon (talk · give credit)
- Updated by CoronalMassAffection (talk · give credit), Hunalbe19 (talk · give credit) and Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
Largest solar storm in decades. 75.81.94.213 (talk) 04:51, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Wait - the northern lights don't seem to be much further south than has been observed on several occasions during the last year or two. I'd think we'd need something more noteworthy - a power grid failure or something. Nfitz (talk) 05:05, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Wait, but support The article as it stands right now is seriously underselling it; the aurora has reportedly reached all the way down to Jamaica at 18 degrees north. Ionmars10 (talk) 05:35, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Strike while the iron is hot The aurora is visible right now where it's dark and will persist into the weekend. But it's dawn where I am and so I've missed last night but will be looking out for a recurrence on Saturday night as I've never seen an aurora. As time is of the essence, we should get this posted immediately to alert everyone. Note that this is not just a light show but this major solar storm might affect infrastructure too. Andrew🐉(talk) 05:52, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- You're in the UK right? I wasn't able to catch it in London yesterday. I think there will be some activity tonight as well PrecariousWorlds (talk) 09:14, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Largest event in many years.... severe effect on radio communications. Ariconte (talk) 06:33, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support Agree with Andrew. Post this now while people can still go outside and see it; no need to wait for a disaster. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 06:58, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Proposed initial blurb is northern hemisphere biased. Spectacular aurora australis has also been seen much more northerly than usual. dmmaus (talk) 07:49, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support This is the largest solar storm in over thirty years, definitely news worthy. The article doesn't have quality issues. --NoonIcarus (talk) 08:14, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support This is a worldwide event with multiple news and government agencies reporting on it, specifically stating that a storm of this kind hasn't hit the Earth since 2003. I also support dmmaus's comment to reword the blurb, since these aurora are happening in the southern hemisphere too. I'm not sure if I can directly edit the template, but I'd change the blurb to something like "Major solar storms impact Earth, resulting in communication disruptions and displays of aurorae visible at medium-low latitudes " SpacePod9 (talk) 08:25, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support per everyone above me. The linked article is well-referenced and gives a basic overview of what's happening, though I think the article should place a greater emphasis on the fact that these solar storms are the most powerful in over 30 years. Kurtis (talk) 08:43, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Per everyone else. I see @Dmmaus's point about northern hemisphere bias, as the Aurora Australis has also been intense over Australia, New Zealand, Chile, and Argentina, but the vast majority of the aurora sightings are in the North, and I don't really see a better way to phrase it. Maybe 'displays of the Northern and Southern Lights seen at lower latitudes'. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 09:16, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Vast majority? Have you measured it or are you just reaffirming your bias? There have been sightings in both hemispheres, period. Wording it accordingly is the way to go. Bedivere (talk) 14:18, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 09:39, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
Oppose on quality. Far too many uncited statements for such a short (barely more than a stub) article, and the thing in the hook about more northerly and southerly latitudes also isn't cited. Posting seems premature. — Amakuru (talk) 10:34, 11 May 2024 (UTC)- Finally able to remove this oppose, as the article is OK now (see below). But in future, ITN admins, please don't post at ITN if the article is obviously not up to scratch. — Amakuru (talk) 16:35, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Post-posting comment. The phrasing "than usual" is subjective. We should perhaps list some specific places closest to the equator on each side to indicate extremities of latitude. For example: Florida, Italy/Bulgaria, and South Africa. Or, suggest alternate wording. 70.27.84.88 (talk) 11:01, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Post-posting pull Way too short of an article and there appear to be quality problems with it. Just because its covered worldwide doesn't mean it is ITN appropriate. --Masem (t) 12:18, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Come on, I think we can make an exception 2A00:23C8:B00:AD01:31D5:F0B7:E1DF:125D (talk) 14:24, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Now the article is in an acceptable state, but it should never have been posted as it was. Article quality remains a requirement for any featured link on the main page (not just an ITN requirement). Masem (t) 16:52, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Don't Pull By Frank Bainimarama standards, this isn't so uncited (and not even a living person). InedibleHulk (talk) 12:51, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- It's way below the standard at which an article is acceptable for the main page, BLP or otherwise. There's now an entire unreferenced section. SMH. Marking as "attention needed", because unless this is fixed quickly, it needs to be pulled. — Amakuru (talk) 15:45, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- There was a dubious accusation of assault against another named and linked BLP in the BLP. I agree, SMH. But that's the way the times have changed. InedibleHulk (talk) 15:52, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- That's not "the way the times have changed", we don't use the precedent of a badly sourced post to justify another. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 16:28, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed. If the rules have changed to allow articles with lots of missing citations and (as initially posted) not even the facts in the blurb properly cited, then I obviously missed that discussion... Anyway finally, many hours later, the article looks OK so withdrawing the "attention needed" at this point. But seriously, the article improvement needs to happen *before* posting, not way later. — Amakuru (talk) 16:34, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:You don't need to cite that the sky is blue which is literally applicable here. The article is now overcited and this makes source editing quite difficult. Lots of footnotes are not the same thing as quality. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:58, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- There's a difference between "the sky is blue" and the scientific specifics of a solar storm's strength. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 16:16, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:You don't need to cite that the sky is blue which is literally applicable here. The article is now overcited and this makes source editing quite difficult. Lots of footnotes are not the same thing as quality. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:58, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed. If the rules have changed to allow articles with lots of missing citations and (as initially posted) not even the facts in the blurb properly cited, then I obviously missed that discussion... Anyway finally, many hours later, the article looks OK so withdrawing the "attention needed" at this point. But seriously, the article improvement needs to happen *before* posting, not way later. — Amakuru (talk) 16:34, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- That's not "the way the times have changed", we don't use the precedent of a badly sourced post to justify another. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 16:28, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- There was a dubious accusation of assault against another named and linked BLP in the BLP. I agree, SMH. But that's the way the times have changed. InedibleHulk (talk) 15:52, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- It's way below the standard at which an article is acceptable for the main page, BLP or otherwise. There's now an entire unreferenced section. SMH. Marking as "attention needed", because unless this is fixed quickly, it needs to be pulled. — Amakuru (talk) 15:45, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Hans Wahlgren
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2], [3]
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by BabbaQ (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by BabbaQ (talk • contribs) 17:55, 2024 May 10 (UTC)
- Support Article seems well-sourced, albeit short. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 11:30, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 02:15, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Jim Simons
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-05-10/jim-simons-quant-king-at-renaissance-technologies-dies-at-86, https://www.simonsfoundation.org/2024/05/10/simons-foundation-co-founder-mathematician-and-investor-jim-simons-dies-at-86/
Credits:
- Nominated by QueensanditsCrazy (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Turgidson (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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QueensanditsCrazy (talk) 16:44, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Philanthropist, mathematician, and hedge fund manager with a longstanding reputation for success in that field. Article has been updated and looks reasonable to me - no orange tags? QueensanditsCrazy (talk) 16:46, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support RD for the most useful donor to science. Connor Behan (talk) 17:04, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article looks good and and is pretty big, however it could use another sentence on his death. Normalman101 (talk) 17:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- There are a couple of footnote-free paragraphs. Both have been {cn}-tagged. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 13:36, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Posted. Thanks for the new footnotes. --PFHLai (talk) 22:17, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
May 9
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RD: Cam McCarthy
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Australian rules footballer.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:37, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose additional citations needed. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:31, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: Rex Murphy
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Canadian commentator and author.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:34, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose more than a dozen cn tags. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:32, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- @PrinceofPunjab: hope you can take another look. —Bloom6132 (talk) 22:50, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support – article is well-referenced and meets minimum depth of coverage for ITN after my edits. —Bloom6132 (talk) 22:50, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Yvonne Mokgoro
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): South African Government News Agency
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
South African Judge.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:31, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support looks good to me. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:33, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Posted – Schwede66 21:32, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Sean Burroughs
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4]
Credits:
- Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Updating and sourcing in progress. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:39, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Almost ready two cn tags needs to be resolved. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:34, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support If nobody wants to resolve them, just delete them. Or post now in the knowledge that Wikipedia is a work in progress, hoping someone else might bring about any "needed" resolution...some day. The important thing today is how much better it already looks since he died. InedibleHulk (talk) 15:42, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Posted – Schwede66 21:27, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) 2024 Chadian presidential election
Blurb: Mahamat Déby (pictured) is elected the President of Chad. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Mahamat Déby (pictured) is declared the winner of Chad's presidential election.
Alternative blurb II: Mahamat Déby (pictured) is elected the President of Chad.
News source(s): AP News, BBC, France 24, Reuters
Credits:
- Nominated by Classicwiki (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Borgenland (talk · give credit) and Classicwiki (talk · give credit)
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Chose to direct to Mahamat Déby over 2024 Chadian presidential election, but provided it as an option in the second alt blurb. Swapped photos because main article page has an American flag in the background, and that might be a little confusing. -- Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 05:30, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support both Déby's article and election article looks good enough to me. PrinceofPunjabTALK 05:57, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose the election article doesn't even have key results like the %age of votes each candidate won. And election article is the logical article to bold if we only bold 1. Joseph2302 (talk) 06:34, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Bold both we don't have to choose between them, we can just bold them both. Amended the nomination accordingly. Currently the election article is okay for prose, but the infobox and statistics really need expanding. Abcmaxx (talk) 06:47, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Abcmaxx - I figured there would be more resistance to highlighting the election article. Official tallies will be hard to come by at the moment as it is provisional. -- Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 07:09, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Updated what I could, based on what I could find. -- Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 09:07, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Abcmaxx - I figured there would be more resistance to highlighting the election article. Official tallies will be hard to come by at the moment as it is provisional. -- Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 07:09, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - I think it's good to mention that there's been many accusations of electoral fraud, and this is generally not considered to be a free and fair democratic exercise PrecariousWorlds (talk) 10:32, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- This came up with the most recent election which resulted in Putin remaining in office, and the general consensus seemed to lean towards letting the article speak to that and keeping the blurb as concise as possible while remaining non-controversial. I believe there was a talk discussion as well. Kcmastrpc (talk) 11:12, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- I personally disagree, I think whether or not an election is an actual democratic election is important to mention. Shall we also post the 2024 North Korean elections? I hear it's gonna be a close race, I wonder who will win PrecariousWorlds (talk) 13:48, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- This is the reason I made alt1. He has been declared the winner by the electoral commission and reliable sources are saying he won. -- Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 15:59, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah that might be the better option, saying the he has been declared the winner by the electoral commission rather than 'elected'. So, Support alt blurb I PrecariousWorlds (talk) 10:03, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- This is the reason I made alt1. He has been declared the winner by the electoral commission and reliable sources are saying he won. -- Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 15:59, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- I personally disagree, I think whether or not an election is an actual democratic election is important to mention. Shall we also post the 2024 North Korean elections? I hear it's gonna be a close race, I wonder who will win PrecariousWorlds (talk) 13:48, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- This came up with the most recent election which resulted in Putin remaining in office, and the general consensus seemed to lean towards letting the article speak to that and keeping the blurb as concise as possible while remaining non-controversial. I believe there was a talk discussion as well. Kcmastrpc (talk) 11:12, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support alt1 - I think the articles are good enough now. We want to avoid editorializing at all so I'm opposed to saying outright that the election was fraudulent, but I think saying Deby was "declared the winner" is more accurate than saying he was fairly elected ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 13:39, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support alt1 - the election article (which needs to be bolded) now appears to be in good shape from the earlier comments. Deby's is already good, and there's zero harm to bold that as well. --Masem (t) 14:47, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support ALT1 per above. The Kip 17:30, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Posted ALT1 – Schwede66 21:10, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Colleen Barrett
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [5]
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Kenmelken (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Former president of Southwest Airlines and founding figure in the airline. I got this article cleaned up a few years ago, so it should be pretty good to go. Kenmelken (talk) 17:24, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - nice work! ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 17:55, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- There needs to be at least one sentence of prose on her death. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:49, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Done. Kenmelken (talk) 19:32, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support article is in good shape. PrinceofPunjabTALK 05:51, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - I added some updates and an image. -- Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 06:32, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article is good enough for RD, if we can find a cause of death that would make it a clear decision Normalman101 (talk) 14:27, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 11:31, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) Timeline of the Israel–Hamas war
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): NPR, Reuters, NYT, Washington Post
Credits:
- Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
- Created by Kencf0618 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Nominator's comments: This is discussed at the ITN talk page. Currently Ongoing lists four wars but only links timelines for two of them. All these wars have timeline pages and it seems arbitrary and inconsistent to just give timelines for two of them. As the Israel-Hamas war now has a huge and sprawling number of pages, it would be sensible to link its timeline too. Note that it has multiple timeline pages and so the overall one seems best as the starting point for readers. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:44, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support if the Russian invasion and Sudanese civil war articles have them, then I see no reason why such a complex and much-covered conflict shouldn't be in the same format. Abcmaxx (talk) 08:38, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Not opposing this, but we probably can talk removal of the Myanmar conflict, no updates since 27 April. --Masem (t) 12:18, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- that's not that long ago, can be rectified easily, but maybe make a new nomination to remove that conflict from ITN as not to de-rail this discussion. Abcmaxx (talk) 13:44, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support to keep things consistent, but I would target Timeline of the Israel–Hamas war (12 January 2024 – present) as the timeline article instead, since the Russia/Ukraine link targets the most recent sub-timeline ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 14:49, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- The Russo-Ukrainian way aside, it would also make sense because the originally proposed article isn't a timeline at all. InedibleHulk (talk) 16:21, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support as one of the original proponents for adding (timelines) to ongoing for the sake of consistency. — Knightoftheswords 16:23, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support per above, no real reason not to. The Kip 17:26, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support I think this is a clear decision, as one of the most heated and pressing ongoing conflicts, getting press worldwide, this definitely deserves a timeline. Normalman101 (talk) 19:33, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support for consistency This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 20:29, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support timelines for both on the basis of consistency. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 03:15, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Posted Timeline of the Israel–Hamas war (12 January 2024 – present) to ongoing. Stephen 03:48, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Stephen: The link should presumably be updated to Timeline of the Israel–Hamas war (7 May 2024 – present), right? * Pppery * it has begun... 03:22, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) Frank Bainimarama jailed
Blurb: Former Prime Minister of Fiji Frank Bainimarama has been jailed for perverting the course of justice. (Post)
Alternative blurb: On appeal, Former Prime Minister of Fiji Frank Bainimarama is sentenced to a year in jail for attempted perverting the course of justice.
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:
- Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)
Nominator's comments: Jailing of a head of state is a very rare occurrence, especially such a recent one too. Abcmaxx (talk) 08:53, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support, the article looks comprehensive and well cited. Maybe "perverting the course of justice" could be written better. Tone 11:53, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- It's a legal term and specific offence. I think we should keep it as it is as not to fall foul of any WP:BLP or WP:BIAS rules. Abcmaxx (talk) 13:40, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Tone 14:00, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- It's a legal term and specific offence. I think we should keep it as it is as not to fall foul of any WP:BLP or WP:BIAS rules. Abcmaxx (talk) 13:40, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Sounds like he's already been convicted. Maybe changing the blurb to "Former Prime Minister of Fiji Frank Bainimarama is sentenced to one year in prison for perverting the course of justice." would be more precise?Estreyeria (talk) 15:32, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Notes The Guardian story above says he was convicted of attempting to pervert the course of justice. It also says first he was sentenced for perverting it. Maybe this means the attempt was successful and maybe it means the reporter was just being succinct earlier. In any case, we should become sure, somehow. Same for the five CN tags. I'm also not sure if there's a distinction between jail (for short sentences) and prison (for long hauls) in Fiji; are you? InedibleHulk (talk) 15:50, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- In British English jail and prison mean the same thing, in the UK legally there is no such thing as jail. In Canada and the USA jails and prisons are two different places with slightly different functions. The Fijian legal (and political) system is likely to be based on the British system but if we have any Fijian Wikipedians or more likely Australian or New Zealander Wikipedians on here who have a better insight, then that would be great. Abcmaxx (talk) 17:03, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- You are correct. Jail (or rather gaol) and prison are one and the same in a lot of Westminster countries. Jail/gaol tends to be the more colloquial/conversational term whereas prison is the official term. Whereas in NA, jail tends to refer to mini-prisons ran by local governments (i.e. counties) while prison is those ran by state/provincial and federal governments. Aydoh8 (talk | contribs) 02:36, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- In some huge counties, the jails make state prisons look tiny. The main reason is that prisons only house convicted criminals, while jails hold untried suspects and small-time ("two years less a day" or "misdemeanor") convicts. Glad we're sure about Fiji now, though, thanks. InedibleHulk (talk) 17:58, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- You are correct. Jail (or rather gaol) and prison are one and the same in a lot of Westminster countries. Jail/gaol tends to be the more colloquial/conversational term whereas prison is the official term. Whereas in NA, jail tends to refer to mini-prisons ran by local governments (i.e. counties) while prison is those ran by state/provincial and federal governments. Aydoh8 (talk | contribs) 02:36, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- In British English jail and prison mean the same thing, in the UK legally there is no such thing as jail. In Canada and the USA jails and prisons are two different places with slightly different functions. The Fijian legal (and political) system is likely to be based on the British system but if we have any Fijian Wikipedians or more likely Australian or New Zealander Wikipedians on here who have a better insight, then that would be great. Abcmaxx (talk) 17:03, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - he was the longtime leader and psuedo-dictator of Fiji, the fact he's now heading to prison seems notable enough for the front page. The Kip 17:28, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support Pending Citations InedibleHulk (talk) 17:44, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support per above. Aydoh8 (talk | contribs) 02:37, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 03:15, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Is this an indication that multiple tagged paragraphs are no longer a problem for biographies, no longer a problem for biographies of living people or no longer a problem for biographies of politicians? None of the above? In any case, don't pull; just seems odd. InedibleHulk (talk) 17:35, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
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RD: Moosa Raza
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hindu
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Indian civil servant.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 23:23, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose no way near ready to be posted. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:39, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: Chris Cannon
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deseret News
Credits:
- Nominated by Curbon7 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Kelisi (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Former U.S. representative. One orange-tagged section. Curbon7 (talk) 21:00, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose article needs a bit more sourcing. PrinceofPunjabTALK 05:53, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Jimmy Johnson (cornerback)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:
- Nominated by Natg 19 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Looks to be in solid shape. Natg 19 (talk) 19:40, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support article looks good to me. PrinceofPunjabTALK 05:54, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - good shape ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 13:41, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 11:31, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: Ramón Fonseca Mora
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ICIJ
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
a Panamanian novelist, lawyer and co-founder of Mossack Fonseca.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:41, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose article needs more sourcing particularly in the works section. PrinceofPunjabTALK 05:55, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: K. P. Yohannan
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Mathrubhumi
Credits:
- Nominated by 70.27.84.88 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
70.27.84.88 (talk) 00:03, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose article needs a lot of work to be ITN eligible. Aydoh8 (talk | contribs) 00:50, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose article needs bit more sourcing. PrinceofPunjabTALK 03:53, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Pete McCloskey
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Sunshineisles2 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Sunshineisles2 (talk) 20:56, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - article looks good and is well-sourced. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 21:26, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support Not sure as an updater if can vote on this nom, but article does look good. Good job to Sunshineisles2 for fixing up this article. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 22:35, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- You absolutely can comment, thank you. Stephen 05:37, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support article looks ready. PrinceofPunjabTALK 03:55, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 12:06, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
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