Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates

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James A. Robinson The Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences is awarded to Daron Acemoglu, Simon Johnson, and James A. Robinson (pictured) for their studies of global inequality. The comet C/2023 A3 (Tsuchinshan–ATLAS) is visible in the western sky after sunset. The Nobel Prize in Literature is awarded to South Korean poet and novelist Han Kang. Ongoing: Israel–Hamas war Israel–Hezbollah conflict Russian invasion of Ukraine timeline Sudanese civil war timeline Recent deaths: Leif Segerstam Mike Jackson G. N. Saibaba Thomas J. Donohue Lilly Ledbetter Alex Salmond view — page history — related changes — edit

Glossary Blurbs are one-sentence summaries of the news story. Altblurbs, labelled alt1, alt2, etc., are alternative suggestions to cover the same story. A target article, bolded in text, is the focus of the story. Each blurb must have at least one such article, but you may also link non-target articles. Articles in the Ongoing line describe events getting continuous coverage. The Recent deaths (RD) line includes any living thing whose death was recently announced. Consensus may decide to create a blurb for a recent death. All articles linked in the ITN template must pass our standards of review. They should be up-to-date, demonstrate relevance via good sourcing and have at least an acceptable quality. Nomination steps Make sure the item you want to nominate has an article that meets our minimum requirements and contains reliable coverage of a current event you want to create a blurb about. We will not post about events described in an article that fails our quality standards. Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated). Do not add sections for new dates manually – a bot does that for us each day at midnight (UTC). Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate. Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready! You may add {{ITN note}} to the target article's talk page to let editors know about your nomination. The better your article's quality, the better it covers the event and the wider its perceived significance (see WP:ITNSIGNIF for details), the better your chances of getting the blurb posted. Headers When the article is ready, updated and there is consensus to post, you can mark the item as (Ready). Remove that wording if you feel the article fails any of these necessary criteria. Admins should always separately verify whether these criteria are met before posting blurbs marked (Ready). For more guidance, check WP:ITN/A. If satisfied, change the header to (Posted). Where there is no consensus, or the article's quality remains poor, change the header to (Closed) or (Not posted). Sometimes, editors ask to retract an already-posted nomination because of a fundamental error or because consensus changed. If you feel the community supports this, remove the item and mark the item as (Pulled). Voicing an opinion on an item Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated. Please do... Pick an older item to review near the bottom of this page, before the eligibility runs out and the item scrolls off the page and gets abandoned in the archive, unused and forgotten. Review an item even if it has already been reviewed by another user. You may be the first to spot a problem, or the first to confirm that an identified problem was fixed. Piling on the list of "support!" votes will help administrators see what is ready to be posted on the Main Page. Tell about problems in articles if you see them. Be bold and fix them yourself if you know how, or tell others if it's not possible. Please do not... Add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are not helpful. A vote without reasoning means little for us, please elaborate yourself. Oppose an item just because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. We post a lot of such content, so these comments are generally unproductive. Accuse other editors of supporting, opposing or nominating due to a personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). We at ITN do not handle conflicts of interest. Comment on a story without first reading the relevant article(s). Oppose a recurring item here because you disagree with the recurring items criteria. Discuss them here. Use ITN as a forum for your own political or personal beliefs. Such comments are irrelevant to the outcome and are potentially disruptive. Suggesting updates There are two places where you can request corrections to posted items: Anything that does not change the intent of the blurb (spelling, grammar, markup issues, updating death tolls etc.) should be discussed at WP:Errors. Discuss major changes in the blurb's intent or very complex updates as part of the current ITNC nomination.

February 14

Portal:Current events/2022 February 14

February 14, 2022 (2022-02-14) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russo-Ukrainian War 2021–2022 Russo-Ukrainian crisis Reactions to the 2021–2022 Russo-Ukrainian crisis Belarus–United States relations The U.S. State Department tells Americans to leave Belarus immediately due to the threat of war. (National Post) The United States relocates its embassy operations from the capital Kyiv to Lviv in western Ukraine, citing a "dramatic acceleration in the buildup of Russian forces" on the Russia–Ukraine border. (Reuters) Russia rejects an official Ukrainian request for a meeting between both countries and the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe in order to discuss the crisis. (ABC News Australia) Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy declares February 16 as a "day of unity". On this day, all Ukrainians will be asked to display the national flag from their buildings, and sing the national anthem in unison. Western intelligence has cited the day as the most likely time of a Russian attack against the country. (Reuters) U.S. officials say that Russian troops, along with long-range artillery and missile launchers have begun moving into staging areas near the Ukrainian border after leaving their assembly areas. (CBS News) Yemeni Civil War Saudi Arabian–led intervention in Yemen The Saudi-led coalition airstrikes Sanaa, Yemen, in retaliation for an attack by Houthi forces on the Saudi Arabian city of Abha. A Houthi telecommunications system used to command drones is destroyed. (Al Jazeera) Disasters and accidents Saint-Laurent-de-la-Salanque explosion Seven people are killed and 20 others injured by an explosion and fire at a block of flats in Saint-Laurent-de-la-Salanque, Pyrénées-Orientales, France. Firefighters are searching for survivors. (BBC News) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Hong Kong Hong Kong reports a record 2,071 new COVID-19 cases in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the territory-wide total of confirmed cases to 25,051. (South China Morning Post) COVID-19 pandemic in Kuwait, Travel during the COVID-19 pandemic Kuwait lifts many of its COVID-19-related restrictions, including allowing foreign travel for unvaccinated and vaccinated citizens and allowing the entry of unvaccinated people into shopping malls as long as they show a negative PCR COVID-19 test from the previous 72 hours. (Al-Arabiya English) COVID-19 pandemic in Singapore, COVID-19 vaccination in Singapore The Singaporean Health Sciences Authority grants interim authorisation for the use of the protein-based Novavax COVID-19 vaccine. (CNA) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Sweden, COVID-19 vaccination in Sweden The Public Health Agency of Sweden recommends that people over the age of 80 years, residents of nursing homes, and people receiving at-home care should receive a fourth dose of the COVID-19 vaccine. (MedicalXpress) COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, tests positive for COVID-19. (BBC News) International relations Mexico–United States relations The United States suspends all imports of Mexican avocados after threats are made against an American plant safety inspector in Uruapan, Michoacán. (AP) Chagos Archipelago sovereignty dispute The flag of Mauritius is raised on the British-controlled Chagos Archipelago in the Indian Ocean for the first time in history. Mauritian Prime Minister Pravind Jugnauth describes the event as a "historic moment", saying that it was time for the United Kingdom to cede control of the archipelago. (BBC News) Law and crime Canada convoy protest The government of Canada invokes the Emergencies Act for the first time since the law was passed in 1988, thereby giving the federal government temporary powers to deal with ongoing blockades associated with the protests. (CBC News) Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance Chrystia Freeland announces that, as part of the invoking of the Act, crowdfunding platforms such as GoFundMe and GiveSendGo must immediately register with the Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada (FINTRAC) and authorizes banks to freeze accounts suspected to be involved in the blockades. (CTV News) The United States Department of Justice asks Honduras for the arrest and extradition of former Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernández, who left office less than a month ago. (Reuters)

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February 13

Portal:Current events/2022 February 13

February 13, 2022 (2022-02-13) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russo-Ukrainian War 2021–2022 Russo-Ukrainian crisis Reactions to the 2021–2022 Russo-Ukrainian crisis Operation Unifier Canada withdraws its military advisors from Ukraine and relocates them to an undisclosed destination in Europe. It moves its diplomatic staff to Lviv, suspending all operations at its embassy in Kyiv. (Reuters) Ukraine receives a shipment of FIM-92 Stinger anti-aircraft missile systems from Lithuania. (Reuters) Ukraine formally requests a meeting with Russia and the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe within the next 48 hours in response to the crisis. (Daily Sabah) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Nepal, Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on education Schools are reopened in Nepal after being closed for more than a month. (Times of India) COVID-19 pandemic in South Korea South Korea reports a record of 56,431 new COVID-19 cases in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 1.35 million. (Manila Bulletin) Law and crime Eleven people are injured during a mass stabbing by a man riding a bicycle through Albuquerque, New Mexico, United States. The suspect is taken into custody. (ABC News) (Albuquerque Journal) A car bombing in Ashkelon, Israel, kills one person and injures two more. The incident is most likely related to organized crime in Israel. (Times of Israel) Politics and elections Canada convoy protest Canadian police say a major demonstration at the Ambassador Bridge in Windsor, Ontario, has dispersed peacefully. The protesters had been given warnings for several days. (BBC News) 2022 German presidential election Frank-Walter Steinmeier is re-elected as president of Germany. (Deutsche Welle) Sports 2021 NFL season The Los Angeles Rams defeat the Cincinnati Bengals, 23–20, to win Super Bowl LVI. (ESPN)

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RD: Ivan Reitman

Article: Ivan Reitman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP
Credits:

• Nominated by TheJoebro64 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit) and CreecregofLife (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Director of many beloved '80s and '90s comedies, most notably Ghostbusters. JOEBRO64 03:50, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support: Even if I wasn't a recent editor, this feels like a slam dunk.--CreecregofLife (talk) 04:02, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
• Not Ready for the usual reason. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:24, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
• No Blurb for usual reason. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:30, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Super Bowl LVI

Article: Super Bowl LVI (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Los Angeles Rams defeat the Cincinnati Bengals in Super Bowl LVI (MVP Cooper Kupp pictured). (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The Los Angeles Rams defeat the Cincinnati Bengals in the Super Bowl (MVP Cooper Kupp pictured).
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Bluerules (talk · give credit), Frank Anchor (talk · give credit), ViperSnake151 (talk · give credit), Donnowin1 (talk · give credit) and PCN02WPS (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 03:00, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

• Noting that we usually include the player of the game as the image once that is determined. --Masem (t) 03:04, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
  • Not announced yet... waiting. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:16, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
  • It's Kupp. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:17, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support -- Hydrology (talk) 03:45, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support -- one of the largest sporting events in the world. Definitely noteworthy. Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 04:04, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
• Comment Seems like we're inconsistent through the years on whether the blurb provides a Roman numeral lesson or not. For annual events, we typically don't repeat the year of the event.—Bagumba (talk) 04:29, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

2022 German presidential election

Article: 2022 German presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Frank Walter Steinmeier is elected for a second term as President of Germany by the Bundesversammlung. (Post)
News source(s): CNBC, Politico
Credits:

• Nominated by Jonas1015119 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: ITN/R jonas (talk) 23:32, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

• Chancellor's ITNR, not the President. —Cryptic 23:37, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose since not head of government. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 01:00, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support national-level election in a G7 state, even if not election directly made by voters. Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 04:07, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

February 12

Portal:Current events/2022 February 12

February 12, 2022 (2022-02-12) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russo-Ukrainian War 2021–2022 Russo-Ukrainian crisis Reactions to the 2021–2022 Russo-Ukrainian crisis All British troops are ordered to withdraw from Ukraine. (The Independent) Multiple nations, including Estonia, Iraq, Palestine, Spain and Taiwan, warn against traveling to Ukraine and urge their citizens to leave the country. (ERR) (NRT) (WAFA) (El País) (Focus Taiwan) Israel declares a state of emergency due to tensions between Russia and Ukraine. (Haaretz) KLM suspends all flights to Ukraine. (NL Times) The Pentagon orders the departure of U.S. troops in Ukraine as tensions between Ukraine and Russia escalate. (CNBC) The United States orders the evacuation of its embassy staff in Kyiv. (CNN) Thousands of people protest against Russian military aggression in Kyiv, chanting "Glory to Ukraine" and "Ukrainians will resist". (Reuters) Jihadist insurgency in Burkina Faso French forces launch an airstrike on a jihadist camp in southern Burkina Faso, near the border with Benin, killing 40 combatants. The attack was a retaliation for the massacre of nine people (including a Frenchman) in Benin's W National Park earlier that week. (Voice of America) Business and economy 2018–2022 Turkish currency and debt crisis President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan announces that the value-added tax (VAT) will be lowered from 8% to 1% on dairy products, fruit, vegetables, and other basic foods. The VAT reduction, aimed at countering soaring inflation, will go into effect on Monday. (Daily Sabah) International relations Bahrain–Israel relations Bahraini authorities confirm that an Israeli military officer will be stationed inside the country as part of an upcoming international coalition consisting of 34 countries. This is the first time an Israeli officer has been sent to a military post in the Arab World. (Reuters) Law and crime Lynching of Mushtaq Ahmed A man accused of blasphemy is lynched by a mob in Tulamba, Mian Channu Tehsil, Khanewal District, Punjab, Pakistan. (BBC News) Politics and elections COVID-19 protests in Canada Freedom Convoy 2022 Protesters gather at the Peace Bridge near the Canada–United States border in an attempt to end the COVID-19 mandates in Canada. (USA Today) (Buffalo News) Sports 2021 FIFA Club World Cup In association football, English club Chelsea win their first FIFA Club World Cup title after beating Brazilian club Palmeiras 2–1 after extra time in the final at the Mohammed bin Zayed Stadium in Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates. Chelsea defender Thiago Silva wins the tournament's Golden Ball award. (Al Jazeera)

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RD: Beryl Vertue

Article: Beryl Vertue (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian; Variety; The Independent
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by MerielGJones (talk · give credit) and Philip Cross (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 01:13, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support Solid article. Well referenced. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:43, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Frank Beckmann

Article: Frank Beckmann (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Detroit Free Press; The Detroit News; WXYZ-TV, WJR-AM
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 22:56, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support Solid article and well referenced. G2G. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:14, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
• Posted --PFHLai (talk) 04:15, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

(Closed) 2021 FIFA Club World Cup Final

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Article: 2021 FIFA Club World Cup Final (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In association football, Chelsea defeats Palmeiras to win the 2021 FIFA Club World Cup. (Post)
News source(s): BBC Sports
Credits:

• Nominated by Kacamata (talk · give credit)
• Created by S.A. Julio (talk · give credit)

 Kacamata! ^Dimmi!!! 19:59, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

• Comment not ITNR Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recurring_items#Football_(association) --LaserLegs (talk) 20:45, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Comment: The match summary is not there yet. --PFHLai (talk) 20:48, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose Per Wikipedia:In the news/Recurring items#Football (association), seems like we already have enough footy in a year. The last FIFA Club WC nom, also with an English club, was not posted.—Bagumba (talk) 09:27, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose. This may sound like a big deal, but the reality is that the world pays little attention to this, and it has none of the prestige of its feeder competitions such as the Champions League or the Copa Libertadores.  — Amakuru (talk) 09:53, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
• Adding oppose. There are already many football ITN items and this one is not receiving as much attention as the others. --Tone 10:38, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose, this tournament wouldn’t hold the significance that tournaments like the Champions League and the Copa Libertadores would hold so it’s better not to post.  Hamza Ali Shah  ^Talk 11:45, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support - The two finalists are from UEFA Champions League and Copa Libertadores which are listed in the ITNR. That makes this year Club World Cup Final a particularly significant event. STSC (talk) 12:53, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose Glorified friendly. Pawnkingthree (talk) 13:29, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose The fact that the UK sports press were giving more attention to the week's regular season games than this, should suggest it isn't much more than a friendly with a FIFA bauble for the winners. Black Kite (talk) 13:53, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose per above. ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 18:13, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Hugo Torres Jiménez

Article: Hugo Torres Jiménez (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC News, Confidencial
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Innisfree987 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Major Sandinista figure, died in prison. Article is thoroughly referenced. Innisfree987 (talk) 18:38, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

• More than long enough (900+ words), with enough footnotes (AGF'd non-English sources), and with no formatting issues, this wikibio is READY for RD. --PFHLai (talk) 00:03, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support No major issues. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:26, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support article looks great. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 10:06, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 11:07, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Rahul Bajaj

Article: Rahul Bajaj (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NDTV
Credits:

• Nominated by Tube of Light (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Pachu Kannan (talk · give credit), Jkaharper (talk · give credit) and Ktin (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian industrialist; article is currently very short but fully cited. Tube·of·Light 14:02, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

• Weak Support Good citations, but as you said, the article is too short. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 15:14, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Weak Support per Fakescientist8000. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:19, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Comment Article is now 437 words long thanks to the above mentioned updaters. Tube·of·Light 02:59, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
• Posted --PFHLai (talk) 11:35, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

(Closed) Ongoing: Freedom Convoy 2022

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Article: Freedom Convoy 2022 (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Le monde (fr), Al Jazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by 力 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: This was posted (and pulled) a few days ago. As some of the opposition was related to the specific blurb, I am re-nominating this as purely ongoing. Like the Ukraine story, there is no blurb that I support as nominator, but it is certainly "in the news" internationally now. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 01:03, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose It is covered at least presently by the COVID ongoing. --Masem (t) 01:22, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
  • @Masem: I am open to an alternate proposal of replacing the COVID ongoing with this one. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 01:24, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
    • COVID remains a danger around the world affecting everyone. Replacing it makes no sense. --Masem (t) 01:39, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
      • I'm already at two reverts on this page to try to maintain decor, and can't manage the circus a straight removal proposal would be. I do note that Fire, the heat death of the universe, and falling turtles are dangers worldwide, but are not on the main page. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 02:56, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose I don't think enough has changed for us to be able to find a consensus here, and, per Masem, this is basically covered in ongoing already. DarkSide830 (talk) 01:46, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose despite the news coverage, provincial at best. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 01:49, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
  • To be fair, there are several other such convoys across the globe, but while there are others, they are all relatively small scale events of people with fringe views. --Masem (t) 01:57, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
    • To be fair to the so-called Lunatic Fringe, though, most everyone in Canada would have agreed (and still agree we would have once) that the government shouldn't do anything the protestors still agree it shouldn't do to us, up past SARS and only until not even two years ago. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:59, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose Will you please understand that this is neither ITN-worthy nor Ongoing-worthy? It was very clear. Don't waste our time. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 01:53, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Heavy oppose - Third time, again? Consensus leans to a no-support, just give up. It's not impactful enough to be ITN-worthy. PenangLion (talk) 03:17, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Comment Conceding that consensus can change, I am not a big fan of "the voting shall continue until the correct result is obtained." Very little has changed of a really material nature in this story. I supported the earlier nomination, but I think it's time to accept that absent some really dramatic development, consensus to post is unlikely to develop. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:48, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support. It continues to amaze me that ITN/C lives in some kind of an alternate relation from the rest of the world. The story has already had a major international impact, including on the auto production in the U.S., and spurring similar trucking protests in other countries, including in Europe. Nsk92 (talk) 07:04, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose. I don't see why the Canadian protests are particularly notable compared those taking place in other countries around the world. I would be more open to (but would not necessarily support) an ongoing nomination for Protests over responses to the COVID-19 pandemic. Chrisclear (talk) 07:36, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose we shouldn't be giving special treatment to this just because it's in North America. Many countries are having COVID vaccine related protests, so either post the general article about COVID protests, or nothing at all. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:32, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

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(Posted) 2021–2022 Russo-Ukrainian crisis

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Article: 2021–2022 Russo-Ukrainian crisis (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by 力 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: "Ongoing" nomination. It's not clear to me how much of this being in the news is Western propaganda, but it is undeniably in the news. Unless there is an actual invasion, I don't see any blurb I would be willing to support, hence the nom is for ongoing. The article looks good enough. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 00:14, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support; has been extremely prominent in the news for an extended period of time, and even if there is no invasion will impact relations between Russia and the rest of the world for decades. However, the previous discussion should be closed before we open a new one. BilledMammal (talk) 00:21, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
  • No, that discussion need not be closed. An ITNC discussion from 3 weeks ago that has been archived for two weeks is implicitly closed as "no consensus". User:力 (powera, π, ν) 00:24, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
    • I strongly disagree with that; I also note that it has been listed at WP:RFCL for over two weeks. BilledMammal (talk) 01:48, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
      • I've removed your pointless close request. ITNC items that are more than a week old are archived. Archives are not edited further. Stephen 05:41, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
        • It is relatively common to close archived discussions. BilledMammal (talk) 12:05, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Strong Neutral Nothing has changed since the last discussion. Some say war is imminent. Some think not. Audituri autem estis proelia et opiniones proeliorum videte ne turbemini oportet enim haec fieri sed nondum est finis.. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:37, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose Nothing seismic has changed since the previous discussion was closed. DarkSide830 (talk) 01:45, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
  • The former discussion was not closed. BilledMammal (talk) 01:48, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
    • Closed is the wrong way of putting it, I guess, but no one has commented on it for ~2 weeks and there didn't seem to be any consensus. DarkSide830 (talk) 02:10, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Extremely strong support - Most likely will turn into a world war CR-1-AB (talk) 02:01, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Extremely strong oppose - Most likely will just fade away over time as the international dick rattlers find another game to play. HiLo48 (talk) 03:53, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

'Extremely strong oppose' = oppose. – Sca (talk) 14:08, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Likewise, 'Extremely strong support' = support. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 17:59, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose Despite my involvement in the editing of this article, despite the fact that war is "imminent", I'm not going to support this issue as the critical crises of the incident has generally been over by now. Leaked documents from late January indicated that both sides (Russia and NATO) has not been serious in a military conflict. Given with the circumstances, unless a massive escalation occurs, I'm opposing this nomination. PenangLion (talk) 03:19, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Wait This clearly could be big, but right now its a lot of preparations for combat and political saber rattling without any actual open hostilities. But should something happen, I fully expect this to either have a story to blurb or drop into ongoing (pending article quality), this is clearly the type of story that would have the type of enduring world effects. --Masem (t) 05:17, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
  • Why does an international crisis require actual military hostilities to be ITN worthy? Plenty of things have happened already, including UN Security Council meetings, major troop deployments by Russia around Ukraine, U.S. moving some extra troops to Europe, U.S. ordering all its citizens out of Ukraine, and so on. It's simply insane, I repeat, completely insane, that while all major news sources in all counties around the world are covering this crisis as a major story, ITN still pretends that nothing is happening. Nsk92 (talk) 07:11, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
    • ITN doesn't pretend things aren't happening by omitting them from Ongoing. Everything except the pandemic is excluded. What sets this real situation apart from every other widely-covered arc? InedibleHulk (talk) 19:38, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Strong support. It's not that it "could be big", it is already is a huge story and has been so for several months. That's exactly what ITN Ongoing is for. Nsk92 (talk) 06:59, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose per Ad Orientem. Morgan695 (talk) 08:10, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support it's an ongoing event that has been in the news almost continuously for weeks, and has had troop deployments and UN discussions. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:33, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support — Meets the criteria for ongoing events: newsworthy and updated. No need to wait; later "World War III" may become an ongoing event. STSC (talk) 10:57, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Strong support per Nsk Bumbubookworm (talk) 11:59, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Strong support per Joseph2302 -- HurricaneEdgar 12:00, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose This turned into a very bizarre game of successive allegations and denials about imminent invasion while nothing has really happened for four months. If we're really nearing an invasion as reported in the media, then let's wait for it to happen and post it then. I don't think we should add a warning about something which may never happen.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 13:26, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support, it meets the criteria for ongoing events: the article is newsworthy and updated. Concerning development. BastianMAT (talk) 13:34, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support It's been subject to ongoing discussion and constant media attention for weeks; its certainly a lot more widely commented on than many of the natural disasters and sporting events that get covered on ITN.--Llewee (talk) 14:06, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support I highly doubt there'll be an invasion, but it's been in the news for a long time. Banedon (talk) 14:25, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose - Nothing has changed since the last nom, and if the community did not see fit to post it at that time, there is no indication that consensus will have changed here.--WaltCip-(talk) 14:27, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Question Have we ever posted a similar political/diplomatic crisis before? Scaramouche33 (talk) 15:32, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support - not our place to interpret whether this is legitimate potential invasion or a political pissing match, nor to peer into our crystal ball to determine whether or not this will turn to war or have long-lasting geopolitical consequences. This is a global news story and has been for over a month. By simply placing this into ongoing, we can also avoid the need to state the highly fluid current situation on the ticker. - Floydian ^τ _¢ 15:35, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support No matter what the result is, this is most certainly a major story in the news, and will continue to be. -- Kicking222 (talk) 15:50, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support because the crisis in itself has had far-reaching implications for the security architecture of the world, already. That makes it a highly significant ongoing crisis regardless of whether the final outcome is an outright war or not. Yakikaki (talk) 16:08, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support It meets the criteria, and is certainly still reported by the news. The article itself actually looks good for an ongoing event. --Vacant0 (talk) 17:56, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support A prolonged crisis that has received plenty of attention from RS and world leaders, and is already notable regardless of whether an invasion is pending. Definitely among the most important stories of the year. Davey2116 (talk) 18:41, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose Like last time, more anti-Russia hype anticipating future world war. We're not an allied outlet in this campaign. As of now, just another tense border situation. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:20, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

  How is it anti-Russia or pro-NATO/Ukraine? - Floydian ^τ _¢ 19:33, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

  Lead says it "generated concerns over a potential invasion". Would you like to be cast as a potential invader? By media friendly to the coalition heavily arming and militarily reinforcing your unfriendly neighbour, under the auspices of "defense"? InedibleHulk (talk) 19:51, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

  Are there sources arguing that Ukraine is arming itself to launch an invasion of Russia? 9³ (talk) 21:31, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

  No, but there are plenty of sources saying Russia "could be" preparing to invade Ukraine in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, etc, and they never did. Banedon (talk) 23:42, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

  There are also sources from those years saying Russia "could be" to blame for American democracy, "could be" behind Eurozone cyberattacks, "could be" punished for punitive polonium poisonings. Others, more sympathetic, see how Russia "could be" seeing the troop and missile battery buildup just outside its backyard as something it might want to think about claiming self-defence over. And the article is clear that it has. Ukraine isn't worth amassing about. But NATO is quite intimidating, even to cold hard Russians, deep down. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:07, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support Constant, escalating, and prolonged developments about the impending possibility of war between two European countries 9³ (talk) 19:45, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support, has been the top international story for a few days. It also doesn't matter if this amounts to nothing, it's in the news now, and can just be removed later if that's the case.  Nixinova   T   C   19:49, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support per all above. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 20:16, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• There are three {Failed verification} tags in this wikiarticle. Can these problem tags be resolved, please? --PFHLai (talk) 21:01, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support once tags sorted. 82.32.8.87 (talk) 21:59, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Strong Support - Surprised this isn't up there already. The news is hardly talking about anything else, and it is certainly the world's current foremost political crisis across Europe and North America. Continues to be an ongoing standoff. BlackholeWA (talk) 02:40, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

'Strong support' = support. – Sca (talk) 14:06, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support Things have been heating up, especially within the past few weeks and days. Might as well. Redoct87 (talk) 03:07, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
• Posted. There's consensus that this is an ongoing high-priority international news topic that warrants posting, whether or not war breaks out. The "failed verification" tags have been addressed as of the posting. Sandstein 08:34, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
• Post-Posting Support -- things are getting extraordinarily tense. It definitely deserves to be posted. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 11:02, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support It's In The News, not In The Things That Will Happen. Headlines in at least English language media for multiple times past few weeks. Would be weird to not at least put it there. Juxlos (talk) 14:00, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
• Post-posting support – Continues to lead almost every prime RS site, with some offering multiple articles. Today's examples include AP, BBC. The looming question: What's Putin's game? – Sca (talk) 14:04, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
• War is now imminent. See here: "Satellite imagery obtained by CNN shows that a large base at Yelnya, which held Russian tanks, artillery and other armor, has been largely emptied, with the equipment apparently being moved much closer to the frontier in recent days.

Large amounts of weaponry were moved to the base late in 2021 before disappearing -- including some 700 tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and ballistic missile launchers. Social media videos since show some of that equipment on trains and roads much further south in the Bryansk region, which is close to Ukraine."

"Meanwhile, heightened activity in the Kursk and Belgorod Oblasts, which border northeastern Ukraine, has added to concerns. "We are seeing a massive influx of vehicles and personnel in Kursk," Konrad Muzyka, an expert in tracking military movements with Rochan Consulting, warned on Twitter." Count Iblis (talk) 19:45, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

OTOH, maybe it's just Товарищ Putin's idea of a publicity stunt on steroids. You know, the doping thing. – Sca (talk) 20:00, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

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February 11

Portal:Current events/2022 February 11

February 11, 2022 (2022-02-11) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russo-Ukrainian War 2021–2022 Russo-Ukrainian crisis Reactions to the 2021–2022 Russo-Ukrainian crisis Russia–NATO relations The Biden administration says that Russia now has enough troops and military equipment in place in order to launch an invasion of Ukraine and warns Americans to leave the country within the next 48 hours. (BBC News) The British Foreign Office advises British nationals to leave Ukraine immediately. (The Independent) (FCDO) It is announced that the United States Armed Forces will deploy 3,000 additional troops from the 82nd Airborne Division to Poland in the "coming days" amid tensions with Russia. (Reuters) Israel begins evacuating embassy staff and diplomats’ families from Kyiv, and also orders a travel warning for all Israelis, saying that a large scale Russian offensive may occur soon. (Times of Israel) Japan urges its citizens to leave Ukraine immediately. There are about 150 Japanese citizens currently living in Ukraine. (Nikkei) South Korea bans all travel to Ukraine and asks its citizens to leave Ukraine immediately. (Newsweek) Satellite imagery records Russia amassing more troops near the Russia–Ukraine border. (Reuters) Iran–Israel proxy conflict Israel announces the arrest of eight alleged Iranian spies for organizing a plot to kill an Israeli businessman in Istanbul in retaliation for the 2020 assassination of the chief of Iran's nuclear program, Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, widely regarded to be the work of the Israeli intelligence agency, Mossad. Turkish intelligence shared with the Mossad apparently contributed to the arrests, and several Turkish operatives were among those arrested. (Times of Israel) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Hong Kong Hong Kong reports a record 1,325 new COVID-19 cases in the past 24 hours, bringing the territory-wide total of confirmed cases to 20,119. (South China Morning Post) COVID-19 pandemic in South Korea South Korea reports a record 53,926 new COVID-19 cases in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 1,239,287. (The Korea Herald) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in France The Government of France announces that mask mandate in indoor public places will be eased beginning on February 28 as the number of COVID-19 declines. (Euronews) COVID-19 pandemic in Italy Italy lifts its outdoor mask mandate and reopens nightclubs as the number of COVID-19 cases declines. (France 24) COVID-19 pandemic in Russia Russia reports a record 203,949 new COVID-19 cases in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 13.7 million. (The Moscow Times) Koala conservation The Australian Government officially lists the koala as an endangered species due to a combination of factors including drought, bushfires, disease and habitat loss. (The Guardian) Deforestation of the Amazon rainforest, Deforestation in Brazil Satellite imagery shows 430 square kilometres of Amazon rainforest was deforested in January, five times more than last January. (BBC News) International relations Somaliland–Taiwan relations Somaliland Foreign Minister Essa Kayd rebukes China's apparent attempts to dictate the unrecognized breakaway state's foreign relations with Taiwan and reaffirms the state's recognition of the Republic of China. (Reuters) Finland–United States relations Finland agrees to a $9.4 billion deal with the United States to purchase 64 F-35 Lightning II stealth fighter-jets for its air force. The agreement also includes buying advanced surface-to-surface missiles from Lockheed Martin in order to upgrade the country's missile systems. The munition deliveries are expected to begin by 2025. (Reuters) Law and crime Canada convoy protest Ontario Premier Doug Ford declares a state of emergency over the protest-related blockades in the City of Ottawa and at the Ambassador Bridge. (CBC) Crime in Portugal Portuguese police, with help from the FBI, arrest an 18-year-old boy for planning an armed attack on a university in Lisbon. (Reuters) Politics and elections Aftermath of the 2022 Burkina Faso coup d'état Lt. Col. Paul-Henri Sandaogo Damiba, leader of the military junta, is declared president by the Burkinabé Constitutional Council. His "election", deemed retroactively effective since the coup on January 24, will be made official by an inauguration on February 16. (AP)

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February 10

Portal:Current events/2022 February 10

February 10, 2022 (2022-02-10) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks 2021–2022 Russo-Ukrainian crisis Belarus–Russia relations Russia and Belarus begin a 10-day military exercise known as "Allied Resolve-2022" amid ongoing tensions with Ukraine. The United States and NATO denounce the exercise, with NATO calling it the biggest deployment of Russian troops since the Cold War. (CNBC) Russia–Ukraine relations Ukraine says that Russian Navy drills in the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov have made navigation "virtually impossible", stating that the drills are part of a "hybrid war" against the country. Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba says that the Sea of Azov is completely blocked, essentially blockading Ukrainian ports. (Reuters) (BBC News) Ukraine–United States relations U.S. President Joe Biden calls on any remaining Americans to leave Ukraine immediately due to increased threats of Russian military action. The U.S. State Department issues a level 4 travel warning, the highest level. (BBC News) Jihadist insurgency in Burkina Faso Four civilians are killed during a battle between French troops and Ansar ul Islam in Burkina Faso. Ten militants are killed in the clash, which involved support from an attack helicopter. (Reuters) Yemeni Civil War (2014-present) Houthi–Saudi Arabian conflict An airstrike on Abha International Airport in the Saudi Arabian city of Abha injures twelve people. The attack was done by members of the Houthi movement. (Al Jazeera) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Spain Spain lifts its outdoor mask mandate due to a decline in the spread of the Omicron variant. (GMA News Network) COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom Charles, Prince of Wales, tests positive for COVID-19 for the second time. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in Australia COVID-19 pandemic in Western Australia Western Australia reports a record 37 locally transmitted cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours. (ABC News Australia) COVID-19 vaccination in Australia The Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation proposes changing the definition of a fully vaccinated person to only include people who have received a booster dose. (ABC News Australia) COVID-19 pandemic in Costa Rica Costa Rican president Carlos Alvarado Quesada tests positive for COVID-19. (Anadolu Agency) COVID-19 pandemic in Tunisia Tunisia lifts its nightly curfew due to a decrease in the number of COVID-19 cases, but extends the ban on gatherings for one week. (National Post) Law and crime Xenophobia and racism related to the COVID-19 pandemic A South Korean envoy in New York City is attacked in an unprovoked assault. (Yahoo! News) Politics and elections Aftermath of the Second Libyan Civil War The interim Government of National Unity, intended to be dissolved by the 2021 Libyan presidential election before its indefinite postponement, chooses former Interior Minister Fathi Bashagha to replace the incumbent, UN-recognized Prime Minister Abdul Hamid Dbeibeh, for his failure to hold the elections as agreed during the peace process. Dbeibeh rejects the appointment, saying that his replacement must be chosen by the eventual national election as per the aforementioned ceasefire agreement, reigniting fears of renewed warfare. (Al-Jazeera) Science and technology Archaeologists announce the discovery of a human tooth in the Grotte Mandrin near Malataverne, France, dating to 54,000 YBP, around 10,000 years before the currently accepted date for the arrival of Homo sapiens in Europe. (CNN)

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RD: Mary Ellen Duncan

Article: Mary Ellen Duncan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Howard Community College Facebook
Credits:

• Updated by TJMSmith (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Academic administrator and teacher. TJMSmith (talk) 16:57, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

• Weak Oppose It's an oversized stub. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:03, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

  It's beyond most WP:STUB measurements at 2507 bytes and 386 words of readable prose.—Bagumba (talk) 12:41, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

• Comment: The death is currently referenced to a FB post. I hope this can be sourced to formal obituaries by Monday morning when college offices re-open after the weekend. More materials to expand this wikibio may be available from these obituaries. And I suspect Spencer may ask for section headers (which hopefully would make this start-class article look less like an "oversized stub"). --PFHLai (talk) 14:28, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Manuel Esquivel

Article: Manuel Esquivel (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://caribbean.loopnews.com/content/former-belize-pm-sir-manuel-esquivel-has-died
Credits:

• Updated by Joofjoof (talk · give credit) and Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Prime Minister of Belize, 1984-1989 & 1993-1998. Almost 400 words of readable prose -- it would be nice if someone familiar with Belize can expand this wikibio, particularly on what he did while he was PM -- I don't think this wikibio should get on RD till this glaring gap in coverage is filled. Thanks. PFHLai (talk) 09:39, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support Short but adequate. Referencing is sat. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:05, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support looks fine and ready. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 12:35, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
• Posted. Nicely expanded and doubled in size by Joofjoof during the past day or so. --PFHLai (talk) 15:30, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Stefan Żywotko

Article: Stefan Żywotko (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Polsatsport, TVP, Interia
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by NorthernFalcon (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Polish football manager who won two African Champions League titles. Article should be ready to go. NorthernFalcon (talk) 06:13, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

• More than long enough (800+ words), with enough footnotes in expected spots, and with no formatting issues, this wikibio is READY for RD. AGF'd all non-English sources. --PFHLai (talk) 09:09, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support Solid article and decently referenced. Marking as ready. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:08, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 01:40, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Olsen Filipaina

Article: Olsen Filipaina (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New Zealand Herald; Reuters; ABC News (Australian Associated Press)
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 22:25, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

• Comment His club affiliation from 1987 to 1990 is not given (same affiliation as in his 1990 championship?). When did he retire? Joofjoof (talk) 23:36, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

• @Joofjoof: done – added sentence and ref re. 1987 retirement from Kiwis. —Bloom6132 (talk) 03:02, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 04:15, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

(Closed) Ongoing: 2022 Winter Olympics

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Article: 2022 Winter Olympics (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, NYT
Credits:

• Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Bjerrebæk (talk · give credit), De Boni 2007 (talk · give credit) and Sportsfan 1234 (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: The current blurb is about the opening ceremony which is no longer in the news. And that article has had orange banner tags for over a day now and so is lacking in quality. Coverage has now moved on to the numerous events, stars and scandals such as the latest Russian drug mystery. We should reflect this change in emphasis by running the ongoing entry instead. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:00, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

• Strong support there was consensus for this to be added to ongoing on 4 February, and the main thing that stopped it then was the made-up rule that it must apparently be posted as a blurb first. Much better to have this on ongoing rather than the poor quality article as a blurb (if it's orange-tagged, then it should be removed from the front page). Joseph2302 (talk) 12:04, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
• Heavy support - It is worthy in its own right. The consensus a few days ago favored heavily for approval. PenangLion (talk) 12:49, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
• Comment – Posting the formal opening ceremony was purely a function of WP:ITN/R. – Sca (talk) 13:04, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
• The Olympics was what Ongoing was established for; the only question is which Olympic article to use as the target. --Masem (t) 13:23, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

• Well, Chronological summary of the 2022 Winter Olympics has very little text, and the text in the lead is all in the wrong tense (future tense), and leads to a WP:EASTEREGG link if posted. All of which is why 2022 Winter Olympics is the better target in my opinion (and which is why that's the one listed in this nomination). Joseph2302 (talk) 13:28, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

• Strong support - It's the olympics after all CR-1-AB (talk) 13:39, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

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February 9

Portal:Current events/2022 February 9

February 9, 2022 (2022-02-09) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Colombian conflict Two soldiers are killed during an insurgent attack against Infantry Battalion 21 of the Colombian Army in Granada, Meta. (La FM) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Denmark Queen Margrethe II tests positive for COVID-19, with mild symptoms. (NDTV) COVID-19 pandemic in Slovenia Slovenian Prime Minister Janez Janša tests positive for COVID-19, with mild symptoms. (Barron's) COVID-19 pandemic in Spain King Felipe VI tests positive for COVID-19, with mild symptoms. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in Sweden Sweden scraps almost all pandemic restrictions, essentially declaring the pandemic as "over". The move is condemned by scientists in Sweden and abroad, who warn the pandemic still persists and continues to represent serious dangers. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in Hong Kong Hong Kong reports a record for the fifth consecutive day of 1,161 new COVID-19 cases, thereby bringing the territory-wide total of confirmed cases to 17,808. Hong Kong also reports their first two deaths from COVID-19 since September. (South China Morning Post) COVID-19 vaccine Johnson & Johnson officially suspends production of its COVID-19 vaccine. It says production will likely resume later, and that millions of doses remain stocked for distribution per earlier agreements. (CBS News) Sports 2022 Winter Olympics ROC at the 2022 Winter Olympics, Doping in Russia Russian figure skater Kamila Valieva tests positive for banned substances after winning gold in the team event, delaying the medal ceremony. (AP News)

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(Posted) RD: Ian McDonald (musician)

Article: Ian McDonald (musician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News, Rolling Stone
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Ritchie333 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: He co wrote "21st Century Schizoid Man" and Epitaph; as Robert Fripp might say - what more reason does one need? Discography needs some sources and cleanup; I'm working on it now. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 12:14, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support pending - I was going to nominate this when I heard the news, but looked at his article and was too daunted to take it on. Looks like it has seen significant improvement in those 12 hours. Only thing that jumps out at me is the mostly-unsourced discography (which I still think we should be able to use the album sleeve as a source... anybody can obtain it to verify themselves). And kudos for honing on the King Crimson works and not his later pop rock ;) - Floydian ^τ _¢ 15:41, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

The discography isn't unsourced (or, to be more accurate, unverifiable), it merely didn't have inline citations (AFAIK everything not with a direct inline cite was cited in the body anyway). However, I've popped some in. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:27, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

I was just heading off the inevitable ITN regulars perennial comment. Pending striked, good to go. - Floydian ^τ _¢ 17:16, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 20:15, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jim Angle

Article: Jim Angle (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Fort Worth Star-Telegram; Lubbock Avalanche-Journal; Fox News
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 09:52, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

• Long enough (500+ words), with enough footnotes in expected spots, with no formatting concerns, this wikibio is READY for RD. --PFHLai (talk) 20:07, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support Short but adequate and solidly referenced. Marking as ready. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:09, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 01:39, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Betty Davis

Article: Betty Davis (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

• Nominated by Ritchie333 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Alexcalamaro (talk · give credit), Ghmyrtle (talk · give credit), 20chances (talk · give credit) and Spencer (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Godmother of soul, big influence on Prince. (And someone DID NOT write a song about her eyes) Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 13:01, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support Iconic. Strong article. Ljgua124 (talk) 22:31, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
• There are a few {cn} tags that need to be addressed, and the "Unofficial releases" section has zero references. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 23:53, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support Added more refs so this should be good to go now. cc: PFHLai. Spencer^T•C 08:00, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the new footnotes. Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 19:06, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Azita Raji

Article: Azita Raji (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): US Embassy in Sweden
Credits:

• Nominated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article updated and well sourced --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 03:10, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support Short but adequate. Referencing is solid. No issues. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:18, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support: fully sourced; no problems are apparent. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:53, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support, Article has enough information. Alex-h (talk) 16:34, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
• Posted Nice work. -- Kicking222 (talk) 19:23, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jeremy Giambi

Article: Jeremy Giambi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1][2]
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: News is just breaking, so better quality sources are coming. That was quick, here's ESPN – Muboshgu (talk) 00:04, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support Short but minimally adequate and decently referenced. I am assuming there will be some article expansion given the news and likely attention. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:29, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support would like more on his playing career, but not a blocker to RD. Star Mississippi 02:53, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

  Star Mississippi, I will add more there. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:58, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

  It's much better now. I could've sworn the article already had Derek Jeter's flip play, but it didn't until just now. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:34, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

• Agree, nicely done! Star Mississippi 14:57, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support Article in good shape. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 05:23, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
• Posted—Bagumba (talk) 00:54, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

February 8

Portal:Current events/2022 February 8

February 8, 2022 (2022-02-08) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Syrian civil war Iran–Israel conflict during the Syrian civil war Israel says that the Syrian military fired an anti-aircraft missile towards its territory, which exploded in mid-air over the north of the country, triggering air raid sirens. However, Syrian state television reports that an Israeli Air Force airstrike occurred near Damascus. (Reuters) The IDF says it has struck several Syrian air defense batteries and radars in response to the missile entering Israeli airspace. (Times of Israel) Insurgency in the Maghreb W National Park land mine attack Eight people, including five park rangers and a soldier are killed by land mines in the W National Park in Benin. (Al Jazeera) Israeli–Palestinian conflict Shin Bet officers kill three Palestinian al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades militants in the West Bank after opening fire on their vehicle. Israel says that the men were armed and were responsible for a series of drive-by shootings in recent weeks. Protests occur in the West Bank in response to the killings. (Reuters) Islamic State insurgency in Iraq An Iraqi airstrike kills seven Islamic State members in Hatra District, Nineveh Governorate. (ANI) Kurdish–Turkish conflict In an operation against the PKK, the Turkish Air Force bombards a city in Erbil District. No known casualties are recorded. (Rudaw) Mali War A joint operation by the Malian Armed Forces and the French-led Takuba Task Force kills at least 30 jihadists. A Mirage 2000 fighter jet was involved in the operation, bombing a group of militants on motorbikes. (Reuters) Felix Tshisekedi and his office report an attempted coup d'etat in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. (ABC News) Business and economy A planned US$66 billion merger between British semiconductor company Arm Ltd. and American hardware company Nvidia is cancelled after facing regulatory pressures from the United States, the European Union, the United Kingdom, and China. Arm says that it will instead go public sometime before March 2023. If the deal were successful, it would have been the largest merger in the history of the semiconductor industry. (Reuters) (Ars Technica) Disasters and accidents 2022 Colombia landslides Landslides kill at least 14 people and injure 35 in Dosquebradas, Risaralda Department. (BBC News) (DW News) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Hong Kong Hong Kong reports a record for the fourth consecutive day of 625 new COVID-19 cases, prompting the government to impose strict social distancing measures in places of worship and hair salons as well as limiting private gatherings to two people beginning on February 10. (Al-Arabiya) COVID-19 pandemic in Japan Japan reports a record 159 deaths from COVID-19 in the past 24 hours. (Jiji Press) COVID-19 pandemic in Poland Poland indefinitely postpones its deadline of March 1 for mandatory full vaccination of teachers, members of the army and police officers, due to the current vaccination rate. (AP) International relations Slovakia–United States relations Thousands of Slovaks protest in Bratislava against a potential military defense treaty between Slovakia and the United States. Police prevented some protesters from entering the National Council building, where the bill is being debated by lawmakers. (ABC News) Law and crime Catholic Church sexual abuse cases in Europe In a letter published by the Vatican, ex-Pope Benedict XVI expresses "my profound shame, my deep sorrow and my heartfelt request for forgiveness," in response to inquiry into his handling of child sex abuse when he was Archbishop of Munich and Freising between 1977 and 1982. In a statement published with the letter, his aides insist that "as an archbishop, Cardinal Ratzinger was not involved in any cover-up of acts of abuse". (France 24) Science and technology Mars sample-return mission NASA awards Lockheed Martin a contract to build a next-generation "Mars Ascent Vehicle" to return the first rock samples from Mars to Earth in the 2030s. (Phys) Sports 2022 Winter Olympics Italy at the 2022 Winter Olympics Unexpectedly undefeated in all 11 competitions at the Olympic curling mixed doubles tournament, Italy wins a first historic gold medal in the sport: the curling broom used in the final has been donated to the Olympic Museum. (Eurosport)

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RD: Robert Mulcahy

Article: Robert Mulcahy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Thriley (talk) 02:15, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

• Comment. Right now a bit short at 257 words and would need rapid expansion to avoid timing out, as it seems this was announced on the 8th (should the nomination be moved to that date?) Innisfree987 (talk) 02:22, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

• @Innisfree987: yes, it should be listed under the 8th. I've moved it accordingly. —Bloom6132 (talk) 02:40, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

  • Thank you @Bloom6132, that’s good to know! Innisfree987 (talk) 02:41, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

RD: Luc Montagnier

Article: Luc Montagnier (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post The New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Thibaut120094 (talk · give credit) and Sunshineisles2 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: French virologist. Discovery of Human Immunodeficiency Virus. I have not had a chance to look at the article yet. In good faith, someone familiar with the topic, please see if this should be a blurb. Thanks Ktin (talk) 17:59, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

• Comment. Combining nominations. Retaining the nom for 2/8. Updating nominator to Thriley. Ktin (talk) 18:30, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose Article needs some work. Seeing how Montagnier co-discovered HIV and was instrumental in linking HIV to AIDS, I can see how this could merit a blurb, but article needs to be fixed. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:41, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
• Comment: There are at least 10 {cn} tags in this wikibio that need to be resolved before the nom can proceed. This wikibio is also oddly structured: The first section is about "History of the discovery of HIV", with no info on his earlier work on retroviruses before HIV, except stating that people at his lab at Pasteur Institute had "extensive experience with retroviruses". The second section on "Personal life and death" has 3 sentences, and has little on early education and nothing on how he got to Pasteur Institute and involved in the field of retroviruses. After a short list of Awards and Honors, a "Controversies" section then takes up the second half of the wikibio. It looks like much work is needed to get this wikibio balanced and referenced for use on ITN/RD. --PFHLai (talk) 13:12, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

  Unfortunately, I am not too knowledgeable on medicine / medical research other than currently reading Jennifer Doudna's The Code Breaker book. Do we have anyone knowledgeable on this topic who can step in and help? Thanks. Ktin (talk) 18:25, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

  I am tagging the only person who I have run into and might be knowledgeable on this topic, @Graham Beards:. Pardon the cold ping. Please see if you can help. Ktin (talk) 18:29, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

  I met him once, briefly, in the late 1980s. Sadly, the article needs some work. A few of the {cn} tags can be sourced to Booss, John; August, Marilyn J (2013). To catch a virus. Washington, DC: ASM Press. pp. 313–314. ISBN 978-1-55581-507-3. but the topic remains controversial, and will need some careful (diplomatic) editing, because of the important role Robert Gallo played in the discovery of HIV and his not being recognised by the Nobel Committee. Montagnier's comments, made in his dotage, about the origins of the covid coronavirus should not be given such prominence in my view. I don't know what the policy is on selecting ITN articles. Are ones with such obvious issues acceptable? Graham Beards (talk) 19:08, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

  Yup. These issues are not acceptable for the article to move to the homepage, unfortunately. The article needs to pass hygiene expectations (referencing, citations, reasonable comprehensiveness of coverage etc.) Usually, we do have editors who can help with some work on the article. But, this one seems a tad difficult. With that, this might have to go stale. RIP Montagnier. Ktin (talk) 04:25, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Gerald Williams

Article: Gerald Williams (baseball) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS Sports
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: This is not ready, it needs considerable work. Ready now – Muboshgu (talk) 01:03, 10 February 2022 (UTC) – Muboshgu (talk) 20:01, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support Decent article. Referencing is satisfactory. No issues. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:31, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support per improvements made since nomination. Star Mississippi 02:53, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
• Marked as ready. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:06, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 12:31, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bamber Gascoigne

Article: Bamber Gascoigne (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Ritchie333 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: University Challenge presenter for several decades. Some sources needed. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 10:44, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support The article is good to go as it stands. There's some interesting discussions on the talk page, which include input from the great man himself but these are no obstacle to sharing the latest sad news. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:07, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support. No conferring. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:10, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

"Give us some easy RDs, you big bottom-boil!" Vyvyan333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 11:29, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support, bonus for 10. Mjroots (talk) 11:29, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support sourcing looks fine (selected publications all have ISBN numbers, so are verifiable, everything else looks to have a source). Joseph2302 (talk) 11:45, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support (edit conflict) SN54129 13:27, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 12:34, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

(Pulled) Freedom Convoy 2022

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Freedom Convoy 2022 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A state of emergency has been declared following protests in Ottawa, Canada. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Four provinces scrap COVID-19 vaccination mandates in Canada as the Freedom Convoy 2022 inspires similar protests worldwide.
News source(s): NPR, NY Times, BBC, NBC, Guardian, AP
Credits:

• Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)

 Ainty Painty (talk) 07:41, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

• Comment blurb seems slightly misleading; only the city of Ottawa has declared a state of emergency, and that was declared by its local mayor; Canada itself has made no such declaration. I also don't think that a state of emergency is itself newsworthy; we usually post the event that caused the state of emergency, not the state of emergency itself. NorthernFalcon (talk) 08:12, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
  • I've moved the country name to the end of the blurb. --PFHLai (talk) 08:19, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oposse Local news. We will talk about it if it happens at the national level, but I don't think it will come to this end. It was already said at the time that the issue of demonstrations against the COVID-19 measures were already included in Ongoing. Suggest WP:SNOW. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 09:15, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose this was WP:SNOW closed on 1 February, and don't see that it's become massively more important since then. Impact is limited to one state in one country. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:21, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose I thought the agreed consensus for the previous nomination of this event was clearly opposed to posting the blurb? PenangLion (talk) 10:25, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support - The declaration of the state of emergency pushes this over the threshold for posting. Mjroots (talk) 11:41, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support Article is in good shape, and story is a current top story on major international news organizations. Checks all of the boxes. --Jayron32 11:52, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support international news, and keeping with the Trudeau family tradition of overreacting to minor domestic issues. --LaserLegs (talk) 12:35, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

  This is the mayor's reaction, Trudeau simply vanished. InedibleHulk (talk) 16:03, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose Parochial story, already closed once, and additionally I don't see the point in publicising the activities of a number of tinfoil-hatted muppets having a tantrum. Black Kite (talk) 12:51, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support international news and it has became noteworthy, article is in good shape too. BastianMAT (talk) 13:09, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose per Black Kite. Until they cross a line of actually harming others (eg as in Jan 6), it seems wise not to give them the attention they want. --Masem (t) 13:12, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support - It doesn't matter if we personally think the protests are stupid; if they're newsworthy, they're newsworthy. We ought to take them at face value. --WaltCip-(talk) 13:18, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose – Per Alsoriano, Joseph, Kite, Masem. Much ado about not much. Lacks general significance. – Sca (talk) 13:56, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support I was skeptical of the last nom on this topic. However, since then the protests have escalated significantly as has the global news coverage. Also, protests are not currently being covered in the main Covid article we have linked in ongoing. The capital city of a major industrial country has been effectively paralyzed by mass protests. IMO this has reached the point where it warrants a blurb at ITN. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:13, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose unless the protest results in casualties or Trudeau's resignation. There are many unvaccinated people in the world who complain about the vaccine requirements, so there's nothing special which sets this protest apart from the others.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 15:22, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Comment With some of the protestors now blocking the Ambassador Bridge (among previous border blockades in the prairies, but Detroit–Windsor is the busiest crossing by far), this is going beyond the scope of the downtown Ottawa core. I could definitely see this as Ongoing should these events continue as they are. rawmustard (talk) 15:33, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

• Update At least the Windsor side is reopened, but the Detroit side is still closed. rawmustard (talk) 15:47, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support Per WaltClip. This is not a local news story - it has been national news in Canada, sparked international headlines, and the situation has evolved significantly since last nomination. The range of the protests have expanded to shutting down/restricting access (depending on the point in time) to two international border crossings, Ambassador Bridge and Sweetgrass–Coutts Border Crossing, and the GoFundMe aspect has drawn international headlines - particularly with US politicians diving into the situation. My own feelings about how useless the COVID-19 ongoing as-is, aside - this has evolved far beyond some people waving signs around in Ottawa. Reframe and rewrite the blurb to focus on more notable events if necessary, but the state of emergency in the capital of a G7 country (as repeatedly stated by the media) is just scratching the surface of this situation - do not oppose this simply because of the wording of the blurb. Canadianerk (talk) 15:38, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Request Suggesting promotion is contingent on hurting or killing people is stupid and reckless, akin to double-dog daring; stick to level of coverage, please. InedibleHulk (talk) 15:43, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

I have to agree. We have posted far less consequential protests in the past in S. Korea, Romania and France. Why the sudden raising of the bar here? -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:11, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

If you're asking me, you're asking a tinfoil-hatted muppet, but I think the global COVID restrictions have made us all a more domestically violent people, if even only in thoughts and words. InedibleHulk (talk) 16:26, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Coverage in the media is insufficient for posting a blurb for a protest related to the pandemic when it’s been posted to the main page for almost two years. Also, it’s very strange to argue that we’re raising the bar when we’ve already rejected multiple other similar events with even wider coverage at some point simply because the pandemic appears on the main page. However, it was a huge mistake that the box on the pandemic was removed from the top of the ITN section because we could’ve easily added a link to Protests over responses to the COVID-19 pandemic in order to accommodate this and other similar events. Of course, there are exceptions if a protest turns violent or results in a government change, but then the consequences make a strong argument for posting, not the protest itself.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 17:52, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Agreed. Let's put the box back up. GreatCaesarsGhost 18:07, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

I assumed we were talking about the minimum casualties bar (seemingly set at two by your vote). I agree these are COVID-related complications. But I could see an exception made if enough people agree the inflated coverage, big honking trucks and Canadian content set this dissimilar event apart. Ignoring other cases works for recent deaths. Why not everything? I'll support the box. Just not bloodshed. InedibleHulk (talk) 18:17, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

I deliberately mentioned "casualties" and "Trudeau's resignation" to hint at the exception and keep this alive. I could've easily dismissed it by arguing that COVID-19 pandemic in ongoing is enough but decided to give it a chance in case something happens compared to other similar protests.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 18:43, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

I think I appreciate your efforts at flexibility. All I intended by listing three other differences was that physical violence and federal politics aren't the only ways for activists to be noticed. Cheers! InedibleHulk (talk) 18:55, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support per Canadianerk, though the blurb should have some mention of what the protests are in reaction to. Morgan695 (talk) 17:11, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support. Declaration of emergency in a G7 capital because police can't clear out thousands of protestors occupying the downtown core for over a week. Protests have now also spread to multiple international crossings with the US. Blurb needs to mention cause of protests as mentioned above. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 18:15, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support per discussion. An extended prominent and newsworthy protest. Randy Kryn (talk) 18:30, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Posting As noted, this is a top story as it is not "just" a protest, but an extended civil unrest that has disrupted the capital of a G7 nation. It is being covered around the world. Arguments of "the nomination was SNOWED last week" and "it's local" don't hold weight. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:35, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Post-Posting Comment Not pushing for a...pull, I guess, but I feel this was sorta railroaded. As much as the fact that this is "extended", "disruptive", and in "the capital of a G7 nation, I fail to see how that alone makes it deserving of posting. Many of the protests we post involve mass arrests or firing on protesters. As far as I can see no one has been killed, and all of 14 people in a protest of potentially tens of hundreds have been arrested. The idea that this specific event will fuel others is speculative, and it certainly isn't the first noted protest recently, much less since the start of the pandemic. As for the claims that other protests globally or even domestically were caused by this, that is speculation. I would, at the very least, lean Neutral on this and more likely oppose than support such a posting unless there was serious fallout (either solidly more arrests, shooting, or resignation of key officials within the Federal Government of Canada). Just my two cents, but I think this needs to be said in regards to posts like this going forward (because we know this won't be the last nomination of this type). DarkSide830 (talk) 20:58, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

  DarkSide830, I posted it because (a) it's in the news, (b) it has substantial RS coverage, (c) it has a high quality article, and (d) the opposition is not convincing. There is no WP:MINIMUMDEATH requirement for posting, nor does it need to be connected to any past or future events which would be WP:CRYSTAL assumptions anyway. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:07, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

  I get it, it's just simply a matter of myself not being as convinced as others about some of these criteria. That I why I chose not to vote, I simply figured that I could at least add a little something worthwhile to the debate. DarkSide830 (talk) 02:05, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

• Pull, nothing actually happening, embarrassing, clearly did not have consensus. Abductive (reasoning) 21:20, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

  Abductive, as I said, most of those opposing votes have no weight. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:47, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

  So, if I proposed posting 2021–2022 Russo-Ukrainian crisis. and then everybody said, "but nothing's happening", they have no weight because they all said the same thing? Just embarrassing. Abductive (reasoning) 21:51, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

  So now people agreeing with each other has no weight? I thought that was the definition of trying to acheive a consensus... but yet again, another North American article is given favourable treatment.... Joseph2302 (talk) 23:15, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

• Post-posting concern. The blurb is vague. Is it referring to Mayor Jim Watson's declaration of a state of emergency in the city? There has also been discussion of Premier Doug Ford declaring a provincial state of emergency. It would be good to clarify who is doing the declaring. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 21:56, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Pull. Not a significant event; while coverage has been broad, it is a localized protest that has had no real impact outside of inconveniencing the city it is being held in. I also don't believe that consensus was reasonably assessed - per Wikipedia:In the news#Significance it is highly subjective whether an event is considered significant enough, and given that I don't believe the closer presented sufficient reason to decide that most of those opposing votes have no weight. BilledMammal (talk) 23:28, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Pull per above. Not of sufficient significance, and it doesn't look like there is consensus for it. Slightly confused as to why Oppose votes have been deemed to have "no weight". It's just a subjective decision like most others.  — Amakuru (talk) 23:34, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

  Amakuru, WP:ITSLOCAL and "it was SNOWED a week ago" have no weight – Muboshgu (talk) 00:56, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

  @Muboshgu: WP:ITSLOCAL doesn't appear to apply here; it's an argument to avoid in deletion discussions, as locality doesn't affect notability, but it can affect significance when we are considering an article inclusion ITN. As for the sole argument that referenced the previous WP:SNOW discussion, their position was not that this should be rejected because it "SNOWED a week ago", but because they do not believe there has been any change in significance since then, which is an appropriate argument and should not be given no weight. BilledMammal (talk) 01:56, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

  BilledMammal, when I say ITSLOCAL, I'm referring to what it says above. #Please do not... oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive. And, WP:CCC, so relying on a close from last week has no relevance either. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:22, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

  See this. BilledMammal (talk) 02:40, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

• Pull Not significant per above. ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 00:16, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
• Pull delibrately ignoring one set of people is not objective. Not enough evidence has been given of a significant impact of this to gain an actual consensus for posting (if you actually ibjectively look for a consensus rather than declaring half the votes as apparently invalid). Joseph2302 (talk) 00:21, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

  You've already opposed, so you're effectively !voting twice. Pawnkingthree (talk) 00:50, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

  Nope, complaining about the method of how something is posted is different from supporting/opposing the nomination in the first place. They are completely different, stop trying to use bureaucracy to annoy. Joseph2302 (talk) 04:32, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

  You'll notice that none of the other editors who used a bolded "Pull" had previously expressed an opinion on the nom. Pawnkingthree (talk) 10:00, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

  I did not deliberately ignore a set of people, I deliberately ignored votes that have no policy basis, which is how consensus is formed. It's not a vote count. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:57, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support Major protests generating international headlines and influencing anti-public health sentiments in other parts of the world. [3] Clearly no longer just a local story. Pawnkingthree (talk) 00:40, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support Local news arguments and last week's situation should be discounted (not all Opposes). One is not true and the other is irrelevant. Significance is explained in various article sections. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:48, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support Although I obviously see articles biased to my location local to this protest, it has seen numerous articles about it in numerous international news sources within the current 24-hour cycle, such as Al Jazeera, The Guardian, The Daily Mail, Washington Post, Times of India, New York Times... I could go on. However, I think that it may be worth discussing adding Protests over responses to the COVID-19 pandemic to ongoing if there is such a divide over singling out the Canadian one. - Floydian ^τ _¢ 01:04, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
  • Using the DM should automatically disqualify this, but even then, this is a COVID story, and thus covered under the COVID ongoing, it does not need any more special attention as much as any other COVID story presented over the past 2-some years. --Masem (t) 01:18, 9 February 2022 (UTC)x
    • Mangeshkar's death was a COVID story, too, no DQ. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:25, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
      • Of course it wasn't. It was about her contribution to Bollywood and Indie's entertainment industry and the recognition of it in her death. And in this case, at least myself and others are acknowledging if this turned violent or caused a major political shift like Trudeau's resignation, that would make it a blurb as that goes beyond a simple COVID story. But right now its typical - beyond the fact its not in the US and in a major city center - of demonstrations that have gone on for the last two years rejecting mask and vaccine mandates from COVID. --Masem (t) 01:31, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
        • The first two paragraphs are all about her mild symptoms and aggressive treatment. That's a fact. Why this protest matters (or could matter) more is a matter of opinion. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:43, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
  • Also to remind editors: we don't care how much coverage a story gets (as we are not a news ticker) only that it is in the news to quality for posting. There are lots of stories that get widespread international coverage on the day-to-day that do not make sense for ITN to cover as the topic likes encyclopedic significance (but can be covered at the Current Events portal). --Masem (t) 01:40, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
    • How does one determine the significance of a story without looking at how much coverage it is getting? Just use our own personal biases? Pawnkingthree (talk) 01:47, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
      • We consider 1) what's already in the box such as ongoing stories and 2) consider what are enduring stories that likely have long-term encyclopedic impact rather thhan news impact. That requires using news as sopurces but not necessarily the same weight that news gives the topics. And we also should work to eliminate systematic bias resulting from the majority of news sources heavily covering Western events. --Masem (t) 01:55, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
• Good for people deciding to post this. I recommend once this drops out of the blurb timeframe, the Protests over responses to the COVID-19 pandemic should be considered to be added to ongoing. 188.27.42.181 (talk) 01:21, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose for now. Until it inspires something of meaningful historical note. Also, as a minor note: the state of emergency was declared on February 6, not the 8th. So, this nomination is under the incorrect date, as I understand it? I don't know if that matters anymore now that it's already on the front page right now. ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 01:54, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

  Is the liberation of France meaningful or minor? InedibleHulk (talk) 19:13, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

  The point above is that protests related to covid, unless they turn violent or create direct political results, are effective covered by the covid ongoing. I would agree that if world wide protests grew to a size similar to the BLM protests of 2020, then there might be something more, but these collectively still aren't very big and haven't changed politics yet. --Masem (t) 19:25, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

  You're projecting things. Parasol's major point was only about waiting till it inspired something of meaningful historical note, which I believe The New York Times suggests this potential French revolution already is, by virtue of fitness to print in America. If you don't want to answer my question and only interrupt, that's fine, I'll assume you chose "minor". InedibleHulk (talk) 19:46, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

  Then you are talking about speculation about something major happening from this, which ITN also does not use as a metric. Even if major RSes suggest it is a major effect, we are still looking for something more significant and quantifiable. --Masem (t) 19:55, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

  No, I already told you what we (not you) were talking about. Meaningful historical note. If you can't pay attention, don't play along, and don't invent other people's positions (opponents or proponents). InedibleHulk (talk) 20:07, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@InedibleHulk: For me? I do not believe it of meaningful historical note yet. The NYT article also points out similar protests in Paris over the summer. One confirmed copy-cat in a city that has a history of protests against restrictions doesn't move my position at the moment. I may change my mind by the time the Paris protests officially commune on Friday, depends. These other mentioned calls to action in the article are promising candidates for changing my oppose here. ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 01:16, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for elaborating on that. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:51, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

• Comment I will make one last comment here. I saw support votes with good rationale and opposing votes that dismissed this as "local" and "parochial", or by not meeting a certain threshold of casualties and PM resignations. If another admin wants to pull this, they can. I will not as I think there is still a consensus in favor, though it is weaker now than it was when I posted it. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:20, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
• Pull -- This should not have been posted, there was not consensus at the time of posting. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 03:00, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
• Comment It is clear that there is and was no consensus to post this, with the consensus only being seen by giving no weight to certain !votes despite no policy or guideline based reason to do so. However, the posting admin is unwilling to withdraw this and that raises the question of where to take this next; the normal location would be WP:AN, but that process is too long for ITN. BilledMammal (talk) 04:42, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
  • You were thinking of taking this to AN because I made a decision that you don't like that I've explained here and on my talk page to you? I stand by my view of the consensus when I posted it and Stephen's decision to pull. – Muboshgu (talk) 05:12, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
    • To assess the close, per Wikipedia:Closing discussions#Challenging other closures, not to assess you as an editor or admin. However, that is now unneeded, due to Stephen's decision to pull. BilledMammal (talk) 05:21, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
• Pulled, the tide has turned on consensus for this story. Stephen 04:53, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
• Post-pulling comment – Significance trumps coverage. – Sca (talk) 13:10, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

  Significance can only be determined by coverage; there is no other source of evidence. I can only know about things by reading them. --Jayron32 13:25, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

  No, ITN only requires a minimum bar of coverage for inclusion, the rest of it becomes a matter of discussion and consensus of where the topic fits into our goal as an encyclopedia, to cover topics from across the globe and from all areas of interest, and to avoid systematic biases that come from 24/7 news coverage of politics, entertainment, and sports that primarily favor the Western world. Using "Significance being proportion to coverage" is the road to ITN being a news ticker. Of course, the more coverage something has, the better quality article I expect to see. And we still have Current Events portal linked into the box for all other major news stories. --Masem (t) 13:30, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

  Please stop inventing things I never said, and then contradicting the thing I never said, and then pretending like that somehow contradicts me. I would have hoped you were better than that. What I said was that I need to read sources to learn about the significance of things. The coverage of an event is where I learn about its significance. To ignore the source material (coverage) seems counter to Wikipedia's core ethos. I don't matter. My opinion doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is what I can demonstrate by evidence in reliable source material. --Jayron32 15:13, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Further the affiant sayeth naught. 'Cuz it's all been said before. Bonne journée, mes amis. – Sca (talk) 14:42, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

It is amazing how stark the differences of schools of thought are between Jayron32 and Masem, and how they alternately dominate the discourse surrounding ITN nominations, depending both on local consensus and the presence of participants. I'm reminded of the stark dichotomies of Plato vs Aristotle. WaltCip-(talk) 15:14, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

• Re-post - Canada is not a Third World country; the state of emergency due to civil unrest is very significant by any standard. STSC (talk) 15:59, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

I didn't hear anyone suggest that Canada was a third-world country. As far as I recall, this (3,700-word) discussion was about a contrived truck traffic jam in Canada and its perceived significance elsewhere. – Sca (talk) 17:10, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Unless we're planning to post every time any city declares a state of emergency, posting this based on the state of emergency is a WP:BIAS in my opinion. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:14, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

My point is that Ottawa (being the capital of Canada) declaring a state of emergency due to civil unrest (not due to a storm or flood, etc.) is a significant event in a developed country like Canada. STSC (talk) 19:23, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Sca: "Significance trumps coverage." could you please link to the relevant policy which cites that criteria? Thanks. --LaserLegs (talk) 00:40, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

• Keep pulled. Are we supposed to post every little thing that happens in every city in every country, just because a state of emergency has been declared? I don't think so. This is essentially a traffic jam in Ottawa, and unless they overthrow the entire government of Canada, this has no significant impact on any country. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 17:23, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support re-posting - This is the powder keg issue of the year for Canada with reverberations large and small. I understand there was some deliberate look-away by the media at the beginning but even international sources now cover this extensively.CoatCheck (talk) 19:04, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
• Keep pulled Just because a state of emergency has been declared in one city does not mean that this event is significant enough to post on ITN. If there was actual rioting with large scale damage to property or people, I would reconsider. Chaosquo (talk) 19:35, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

  You seem to be judging this very complex story solely on the proposed blurb, not even the pulled one. I ask you click the link and reconsider after reading at least some of everything else beside the (unprecedented) state of emergency. Not mandatory, though! InedibleHulk (talk) 19:57, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

The event is also globally significant because of the vaccination issues involved. It really concerns all other countries and I think they would be observing closely such impacts of implementing the vaccination policies during this pandemic. STSC (talk) 20:06, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

This has been true throughout the pandemic, though. All sorts of momentous things have occurred which under normal circumstances, as isolated events, would merit posting but which become ongoing and widespread in these highly unusual times. This is why we have the sticky ongoing link to COVID-19 (and earlier, the special box, which I opposed removing) and we don't keep posting individual stories.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:14, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

4,300 words. – Sca (talk) 20:32, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

• Comment – The AP, in an update filed around 19:50, reported that Alberta, Saskatchewan, Quebec and Prince Edward Island have announced plans to roll back some or all Covid precautions – Sca (talk) 20:49, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

  Ontario doesn't care! InedibleHulk (talk) 21:03, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

  WOW! WaltCip-(talk) 21:03, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

• Comment Comments above were made when there was only one proposed blurb. The altblurb was added on 9 February 2022‎ at 23:55 UTC, with diff Chrisclear (talk) 04:28, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
• Re-post the posting admin was correct in their assertion that opposed based on "not internationally significant" are invalid as we have specific guidance against that consideration. The posting admin was also correct in dismissing opposes based solely that the previous nomination had been closed (laughably in just four hours by someone who was later involved in opposing this nom). If WP:CONSENSUS is not just a !vote count, then there was conensus to post at the time it was done. Conseqeuntially pull !votes contesting that the original consensus was invalid are themselves invalid and thus there is still strong consensus to post this item. --LaserLegs (talk) 00:45, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
• Re-post with copycat protests in New Zealand, France, and Australia ([4]), this is worth posting. Banedon (talk) 02:22, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose both proposed blurbs The first blurb specifically mentions a state of emergency in Ottawa. However the States of emergency in Canada article shows that various parts of Canada have entered a state of emergency quite frequently, with 2015 being the most recent year when this did not take place. It's a quasi-routine action taken by the executive branch of government. If anything is to be posted, then it should be the reason for the state of emergency, not the state of emergency itself.
• The second blurb mentions that the Canadian protests are inspiring similar protests worldwide. This claim is highly dubious. The non-Canadian protests are barely mentioned in the Freedom Convoy 2022 article, and the sources provided allude to causation, when it's merely spurious correlation. While there may be some truth to this claim, similar protests have been taking place for months in other countries. I don't see why the Canadian protests are particularly notable compared those taking place in other countries around the world. I would be more open to a nomination for Protests over responses to the COVID-19 pandemic. Chrisclear (talk) 05:01, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

  I think the six sources currently crammed in the middle paragraph of "Other protests" vouch for inspiration, if not causation, often using forms of that word (in various languages). Pedestrian protests are old hat. Canada got the convoy ball rolling, at least in this era. And disaster emergencies are normal. But protest emergencies are new. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:50, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing out those six sources, four of which I overlooked previously. However I'm struggling to see why a "convoy protest" is more notable than a pedestrian protest. Chrisclear (talk) 05:01, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Trucks are larger, louder and harder to move than people. Truckers are also somewhat notorious for their ability to take a seat and withstand boredom for the long haul. All fine attributes for real extended persuasion, in my eyes. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:15, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

• As a comment, the alt blurb (relating the dropping of mandates) is improper correlation with causation. While news sources reported the dropping of mandates and mention the convoy in the same article, I've not seen any specific statement that specifically states the mandates were being dropped due to the convoy. There's a possiblility that may be the case, but we can't jump that leap of logic. So it is is bad synthesis for us to even approach that. --Masem (t) 05:10, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

  I said "as", suggesting only correlation, nothing like "because". InedibleHulk (talk) 05:18, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

  Which is leading to synthesis given the lack of space for context, it creates the impression to the reader "B happened because of A". --Masem (t) 05:22, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

  I don't understand what you mean by space for context. If you can add it, go ahead. We can't be held responsible for people who read too fast or replace the written conjunctions in their heads, though, that's on them. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:09, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

  Is As the Freedom Convoy 2022 inspires similar protests worldwide, four provinces scrap COVID-19 vaccination mandates in Canada any clearer, with a comma between A and B? InedibleHulk (talk) 06:25, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

  Yes, however then I (and maybe other editors too?) would question the notability/significance of a sub-national government deciding to end vaccination mandates. Chrisclear (talk) 06:36, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

  They're four governments, each with a separate monarchy, equal to the federal government's under the Crown. Canada is hard to explain sometimes. I give up for now. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:46, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose second blurb because it implies the provinces dropped the vaccine mandates due to the protests, when it is readily evident to anyone who does any research that the vaccine mandates were on course for being dropped anyways. I don't like the first blurb either simply because of its emphasis on the "state of emergency". There are many municipal states of emergency in Canada every year (e.g. Toronto declares one every time a bad snowstorm hits); the previously linked article States of emergency in Canada only bothers listing provincial ones because municipal emergencies are not newsworthy, as this one is. I am not opposed to a blurb about the protests that sticks to the facts, for example: "Anti-vaccine mandate protests in Ottawa, Canada, inspire other protests across the country which shut down major highways and international border crossings." However, I'd like to point out that these protests are not dissimilar from the 2020 Canadian pipeline and railway protests, which did not get posted to ITN. NorthernFalcon (talk) 06:32, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

February 7

Portal:Current events/2022 February 7

February 7, 2022 (2022-02-07) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks 2021–2022 Russo-Ukrainian crisis Germany–United States relations German chancellor Olaf Scholz meets with U.S. president Joe Biden during his first visit to the United States in order to discuss the situation in Ukraine, saying that Germany will be "acting together" with the United States if Russia invades Ukraine. (CNN) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Africa COVID-19 pandemic in Nigeria Nigeria receives two million doses of the Janssen COVID-19 vaccine donated by the European Union. (All Africa) COVID-19 pandemic in South Africa, COVID-19 vaccination in South Africa The South African Health Products Regulatory Authority approves the use of the Sinopharm BBIBP COVID-19 vaccine for adults aged above 18 years. (The Straits Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Hong Kong Hong Kong reports a record for the third consecutive day of 614 new COVID-19 cases, thereby bringing the territory-wide total of confirmed cases to 16,022. (The Guardian) COVID-19 pandemic in South Korea South Korea ditches its Test-and-Trace strategy and instead focuses on maintaining essential social functions amid a rising number of COVID-19 cases caused by the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant. (Financial Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Australia, Travel during the COVID-19 pandemic Australia announces that it will reopen its international borders to fully vaccinated tourists on February 21, after a closure of almost two years in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. However, Western Australia is expected to continue to close its borders to tourists. (ABC News Australia) Politics and elections COVID-19 protests in Canada Freedom Convoy 2022 In Ottawa, seven people are arrested, more than 500 others are ticketed, and sixty criminal investigations are commenced, for a number of offenses related to the truckers' protest, including violations of the Highway Traffic Act, vandalism, and the smuggling of gasoline. (MSN) 2021–2022 Tunisian political crisis Tunisian police close the Supreme Judicial Council building in Tunis and prevent its members and their staff from entering. The legal body was dissolved yesterday by President Kais Saied in a move widely decried within the nation as illegal. (Al Jazeera)

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(Posted) RD: Bruce Owen

Article: Bruce Owen (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CTV News; Barrie Advance; BarrieToday.com
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Thechristiancontender (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 21:11, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support Short but adequate and well referenced. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:32, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 22:30, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Abhijatabhivamsa

Article: Abhijatabhivamsa (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Burmese, Eleven Media
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Htanaungg (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Htanaungg (talk) 15:03, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support Short but adequate. Referencing appears solid though I don't read Burmese and therefore can't make any judgments on the quality of the sources. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:21, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 23:18, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jerome Chazen

Article: Jerome Chazen (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): WWD
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Star Mississippi (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: one of the founders of Liz Claiborne, former chair Star Mississippi 18:50, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

• Not Ready Article is little more than oversized stub. And frankly, I'm not sure the subject even passes WP:BASIC. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:06, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

  Fair enough. I've taken it as far as I think I can given sourcing so no issue if someone wants to remove the nomination. Step beyond my tech abilities Star Mississippi 21:10, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support unless someone wants to take it to AfD. It's just long enough to not be a stub. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:33, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose article is barely more than a stub, and says almost nothing about his life- there's 3 sentences on his company. The fact there's more on his philanthropy (which is basically just advertising for him) is not acceptable for a complete, NPOV biographical article. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:43, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

  not the creator, although I did most of the updates. My guess is that because much of his tenure at Liz Claiborne was pre internet, there isn't much in the way of online sourcing. What I can find about his life beyond philanthropy isn't worth adding to the article, and wouldn't particularly help with balance. Star Mississippi 22:14, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

  Star Mississippi, there is plenty of pre-Internet coverage. Newspapers.com is a great resource you can get access to from the Wikipedia Library. Here's a source that I clipped for you. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:00, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

  Thank you! Waiting to be re-whitelisted for the library (username blocked on Indonesian Wikipedia) and when I am will go through and flesh out what I can. I do think he's notable regardless of whether he's ITN eligible so there will be time even if I miss this window Star Mississippi 23:26, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

• Comment I have updated it with some background on his bio from the WWD piece. I believe stub issues are resolved Star Mississippi 15:52, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 23:34, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) Cyclone Batsirai

Article: Cyclone Batsirai (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Cyclone Batsirai sweeps through Madagascar (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Cyclone Batsirai makes landfall in Madagascar, displacing at least 45,000 people and leading to at least 20 deaths.
News source(s): BBC; NPR; ABC, Guardian, AlJazeera, DW
Credits:

• Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
• Created by HurricaneEdgar (talk · give credit)
• Updated by StopBoi (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: The BBC says "whole villages swept away" which sounds dramatic. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:14, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support biggest cyclone of the year so far, coverage of the high impact in major news sources many days after the main impacts occurred. Article is well sourced and lots of information too. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:06, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
• Comment could we fix up the blurb a bit? I don't mind adding it to ITN, but I would not support having one as plain as that on there. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 12:54, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

• I'm more interested in the choice of picture, which is worth 1000 words. Here's some alternative views which also show Madagascar.

• 
  Actual and projected track
• 
  Water vapour map of the cyclone
• 
  Animated satellite images

Andrew🐉(talk) 13:36, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

• Y'all know the drill; what are the casualties and damage? Until we know the impact of this storm, wait.--WaltCip-(talk) 14:23, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

• Currently over 20 deaths. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:58, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

  Yes, that would (sadly) be enough. WaltCip-(talk) 15:30, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

As of 15:30, BBC, Guardian, AlJazeera, DW and our Madagascar article said "at least 10." ReliefWeb, a UN organization, said "at least 20." – Sca (talk) 15:36, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support Fairly noteworthy as far a Madagascar cyclones go. I think impact is solid enough even with the discrepancy over deaths (which, if desired to be added to the blurb, could always be appended later from "at least 10" to a more precise number). The blurb does need to be adjusted regardless though, but this event should be posted. DarkSide830 (talk) 16:46, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support Article is in good shape, submitted an altblurb which matches the usual format we use; the main blurb contains next to no useful information about the storm and uses unencyclopedic language. --Jayron32 16:50, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
• Wait – Until at least some major RS news sites corroborate UN agency ReliefWeb's report of 20+ fatalities. – Sca (talk) 17:32, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 22:52, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
• Post-posting comment – Thanks. Going with the 10+ RS toll is prudent for now. It can always be revised. – Sca (talk) 23:21, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
• Post-posting comment To posters and editors - we have sourcing for 20+ deaths. Some examples: Washington Post, Al Jazeera, ABC News,The Times UK Canadianerk (talk) 01:30, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Post-posting comment RS say 20+ death in Madagascar Al jazzeera Washington Post HurricaneEdgar 02:12, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Post-posting oppose for now The blurb is incorrect, as the impact of the cyclone extends to more countries, not only Madagascar. That 45,000 people have been forced to be displaced I don't think is the most relevant thing and 20 deaths I don't think meets the minimum standard of deaths to be published on the Main Page. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 11:24, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

growing distracting --Jayron32 20:09, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
It should be noted that we post lots of blurbs about events where no one dies. There is no requirement that a certain number of people die before it becomes main page worthy. The Winter Olympics, for example, was posted, and I'm not aware of any deaths there. If you wish there to be such a standard, please start a discussion somewhere and establish consensus for your new standard. --Jayron32 11:51, 8 February 2022 (UTC) I don't think I need to clarify that I was referring to natural disasters and attacks on people… _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 12:47, 8 February 2022 (UTC) Where would you put that number and why? WaltCip-(talk) 13:19, 8 February 2022 (UTC) There are no standard number of deaths for "natural disasters and attacks on people". I did not qualify the types of articles in my response because I wanted to be as inclusive as possible. There are no standard number of deaths at all on any kind of article, which would include "natural disasters and attacks on people". If you wish to establish such a standard, start a discussion and get a consensus for it. Otherwise, there's no valid, policy-based reason to object to a standard you made up that doesn't exist. --Jayron32 15:19, 8 February 2022 (UTC) For God's sake...you are long time users in Candidates, are you really surprised by what I am saying? In all nominations related to disasters, their viability has been questioned depending on the number of deaths and damages they cause. And it doesn't matter if this is written as a standard or not. Considering the inclusion of, for example, an earthquake that only results in the death of one or two people, rips away the sense of notability/ITN worthy of MP. I will not open a debate on something that is always under debate in every nomination of this type. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 15:32, 8 February 2022 (UTC) You have stated there is a "minimum standard" that this nomination does not meet. You did not specify where that minimum standard is, thereby making your argument 100% conjecture. WaltCip-(talk) 16:16, 8 February 2022 (UTC) As WaltCip says, can you show me the place where I can read about this minimum standard you keep alluding to? I'd like to apply it fairly myself, but first I would need to read about it so I know what it is. --Jayron32 16:25, 8 February 2022 (UTC) I can show you where I say that these "standards" are not written: a few lines above. Even in Law, there are things that are done as a "standard" even if they are not written. By custom, as a result of consensus. And this is the case: nominations related to disasters tend to prosper or not depending on the number of fatalities they cause. You can look it up for yourselves in the previous nominations that have taken place, in many of them you have even participated in the debate. I can't be any clearer than that. This debate is ridiculous. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 19:26, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

FYI, AlJazeera attributes 20+ toll to unnamed "officials" – officials of what it doesn't say. – Sca (talk) 13:48, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

• Comment Reuters say death toll in Madagascar 29 death need update in main page 'Everything is gone': Madagascans face destitution in cyclone's wake HurricaneEdgar 02:19, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

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