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*... that '''[[Jack Montgomery (Louisiana politician)|Jack Montgomery]]''', a [[Louisiana State Legislature|Louisiana state senator]] from [[1968]] to [[1972]], was preceded and succeeded in the post by [[Harold Montgomery]], and they were unrelated?--self-nom [[User:Billy Hathorn|Billy Hathorn]] ([[User talk:Billy Hathorn|talk]]) 21:00, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
*... that '''[[Jack Montgomery (Louisiana politician)|Jack Montgomery]]''', a [[Louisiana State Legislature|Louisiana state senator]] from [[1968]] to [[1972]], was preceded and succeeded in the post by [[Harold Montgomery]], and they were unrelated?--self-nom [[User:Billy Hathorn|Billy Hathorn]] ([[User talk:Billy Hathorn|talk]]) 21:00, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
::[[Image:Pictogram voting keep.svg|18px]] Created October 6. 5774 characters of main article prose (ignoring lists and intro). Offline ref accepted in good faith. And just a note that years shouldn't be linked per [[WP:MOSNUM]]. <span style="font-family:tahoma;font-size:80%;font-weight:bold;">~ [[User:Ameliorate!|<span style="color:black;">User:Ameliorate!</span>]]</span> <sup>(with the !) ([[User talk:Ameliorate!|talk]])</sup> 09:25, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on October 12

Waterford Covered Bridge
Waterford Covered Bridge
Aerial view
Aerial view
The Great Barrier Reef
The Great Barrier Reef

Articles created/expanded on October 11

Masdevallia veitichiana
Masdevallia veitichiana
NSU Quickly
NSU Quickly
Mayor Royce Pollard
Mayor Royce Pollard

Articles created/expanded on October 10

alt. hook:
  • ... that the Alice Springs Reptile Centre, which has the largest collection of reptiles in Northern Territory, has twice had their animals attacked and killed by humans?
I deleted the duplicate.Rlendog (talk) 02:50, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Deleted, as the author prefers a different hook.Rlendog (talk) 02:50, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
USS Nevada (BB-36)
USS Nevada (BB-36)

Articles created/expanded on October 9

File:Nabi Samwil early 1900s.jpg
I guess you mean this Samuel? Manxruler (talk) 02:11, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yup, that's him. --Al Ameer son (talk) 04:25, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Execution of Michał Kruk, Przemyśl, 1943
Execution of Michał Kruk, Przemyśl, 1943
Portrait of Isaac Massa by Franz Hals, 1626
Portrait of Isaac Massa by Franz Hals, 1626
Altar centre-piece, Solna Church
Altar centre-piece, Solna Church

Please embolden the new/expanded article. Thanks. -- how do you turn this on 19:39, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done :) Thanks, Vishnava talk 19:42, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Church of St Demetrius of Thessaloniki, Veliko Tarnovo
Church of St Demetrius of Thessaloniki, Veliko Tarnovo

Articles created/expanded on October 8

User:Gary King


File:The First of May.jpg
  • This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues 216 character hook. ... that Zac Brown Band's single "Chicken Fried" was previously released by The Lost Trailers, whose version was withdrawn after Zac Brown changed his mind about licensing the song to that record label? is 198 characters. Thingg⊕⊗ 04:45, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note This will be the 50th DYK for an article I've created/expanded. Current total is 48 created/expanded + 2 nominated. Mjroots (talk) 10:37, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Image for Filipino proverbs, Damiana Eugenio, Philippine Folklore hook
Image for Filipino proverbs, Damiana Eugenio, Philippine Folklore hook
When is election day? November? --74.13.125.9 (talk) 21:10, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
November 4. At least this isn't the Main Page. Art LaPella (talk) 21:34, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure if we should wait till November 4. Too long a wait, IMO. --74.13.125.9 (talk) 04:37, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OR
Houses on Garfield Place
Houses on Garfield Place

Articles created/expanded on October 7

Expansion started on 7 October, from around 7kB to almost 40kB. JonCatalán(Talk) 15:15, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Date, article length and hook length verified. Hook is almost ok, except that the year 1956 is not mentioned in the article (but the year is in the reference). The rest of the hook is supported in the article, as well as in the ref. Oceanh (talk) 23:14, 11 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]
Speaker iconMarguerite Sylva in 1910

I like the first hook, but would shorten it to: "*... that Marguerite Sylva modestly told W. S. Gilbert, at her sister's audition, that she "sang a little" and, after demonstrating, was offered a part? -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:12, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That works quite well. Of course, we'd need to mention the recording or picture in some form, if they're used. Of course, this is only part of a rather fascinating anecdote, but, hey, that's why we're linking to the article. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 00:26, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In my opinion, ALT2 adds words with giving little additional "hooky"-ness. Technically the track is not in Rockford, but in the suburb Loves Park. I strongly prefer the Dick Trickle version because he is a short track legend with probably the greatest number of race feature wins of anyone in the world. Hosting the first win outside of the home region for a legendary figure is an impressive first. It shows how important the track was at that time with someone of that stature driving a relatively long distance to compete there. It's been elusive to cite Trickle's number of wins since there are no concrete records from the time, so it is disputed. People are working on figuring out an exact total. Royalbroil 18:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also, "the Rockford, Illinois" should either be "Rockford, Illinois" or "the Rockford, Illinois area". Art LaPella (talk) 23:59, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The Main Page is protected!
Is there a svg version of the suggested pic that is not so grainy at 100x100px? --74.14.18.96 (talk) 00:14, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It looked fine at 68px (see now) - I'll try and ask on Commons, and see if someone can convert it to SVG. I can't find a version at present. fish&karate 07:17, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Whose self-nom is this? --74.13.125.9 (talk) 21:13, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Is "renowned" really the operative word? How about "... that in Saskatchewan, Oban was known for having the last Interlocking tower at the CNR and CPR level crossing, until it was closed in 1990?" Wetman (talk) 16:14, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you...that works!SriMesh | talk 00:24, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Jackie Robinson
Jackie Robinson
So removed. --74.14.18.96 (talk) 00:10, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Images removed; length, date and hook verified. Again, good work! PeterSymonds (talk) 23:37, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I've added a new (free) image of Jackie Robinson. Please make sure I can use that picture instead. Yours, – RyanCross (talk) 01:41, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
or

...by Ugajin (talk · contribs) - nom Casliber (talk · contribs)

Expiring noms

Articles created/expanded on October 6

Neel Kashkari
Neel Kashkari
Date, length, hook and reference verified. Oceanh (talk) 07:36, 12 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]
King's Mill
King's Mill
Date, length, hook and reference verified. Oceanh (talk) 07:49, 12 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]
Date, length and hook verified, offline reference accepted in good faith. Oceanh (talk) 08:02, 12 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]


This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Date and reference confirmed, but article too short at slightly under 1000 characters. Please identify the author of an article when nominating another's work. Kablammo (talk) 20:13, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The article has been expanded past 100 characters. The article was created by me and User:Aroundtheglobe    Juthani1   tcs 20:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's actually 2238 characters. Art LaPella (talk) 05:33, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Date, length, hook and reference verified. Oceanh (talk) 08:19, 12 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues the expansion is sufficient, but the refs are to the subject's own work & web page, rather than to third-party sources as required. Bob (QaBob) 22:13, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How about this new hook:
The hook is verified by a journal publication. --Jiuguang (talk) 16:56, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Attached to "Palace of Lausus" hook
Attached to "Palace of Lausus" hook
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues 218 character hook. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How about: ... that the 5th century Palace of Lausus in Constantinople housed a vast collection of classical statues, including that of Zeus from Olympia (pictured), one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World? Constantine ✍ 16:56, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Ref #3 confirms the hook, created October 6 and 5234 characters. However, I'm not entirely comfortable with a .com reference on the main page and I can't think of a way to word the hook to avoid it, anyone else have an opinion on this? ~ User:Ameliorate! (with the !) (talk) 12:57, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's an interesting hook IMHO. I don't think rewording is possible for a subject such as this. Would there be a reason not to feature a .com reference on the main page? Zithan (talk) 05:10, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't like what looks like spam on the main page. PR Newswire is not a reliable source, and "no employees" is a matter of interpretation - the article says no direct employees, but that lots of people work for them. So spam, no reliable source, and prevarication - 3 strikes and you're out (IMHO). Smallbones (talk) 00:20, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article is not well-referenced enough - I commend you for your expansion efforts, but this article is not sourced to enough inline citations; one primary reference is not adequate for an article of this length. —Anonymous DissidentTalk 05:58, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article has moere than one source, and it passes the criteria. the editorofthewiki (talk/contribs/editor review) 22:39, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Hooks should be a question. --74.14.18.96 (talk) 00:17, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Great. 197 characters now. Thanks. Docku:“what up?” 00:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Why would the U.S. Army care about identifying small-town mayors in Louisiana during World War I? Was Louisiana one of the Central Powers? Of course not. But this hook is rather misleading. --74.13.125.9 (talk) 15:27, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This one was hard to find a hook. The Army required doughboys to have a middle initial as a minimum for identification. I tried to rewrite it.Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:52, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 5

It's OK with me, although it might be too complex for a hook. I'll leave it to the DYK hook experts. Feel free to add or not! -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:23, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Created October 6. 5774 characters of main article prose (ignoring lists and intro). Offline ref accepted in good faith. And just a note that years shouldn't be linked per WP:MOSNUM. ~ User:Ameliorate! (with the !) (talk) 09:25, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 4

This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues The article needs to be clearer about the last part of the hook. I can't find it explicitly ... is this something I'm supposed to deduce from other information? Clarify. Daniel Case (talk) 03:04, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The older buildings are Waller and Gatke halls. Gatke was moved to campus after this building, which is mentioned/cited in the second paragraph of the history section. Its more of a teaser hook. Would you like it explained in the article? Aboutmovies (talk) 08:02, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I added a bit to the article under "Details" that explains the age item. Aboutmovies (talk) 23:42, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Created October 4. 2914 characters of main article prose. Combination of offline and online ref(s) accepted in good faith. ~ User:Ameliorate! (with the !) (talk) 09:18, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues We need a source for the Gentle Ben credits (and for this IMdB is OK). Daniel Case (talk) 02:47, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Reply:Here is to the link of Tam Spiva writing some six episodes of Gentle Ben:http://www.tv.com/tam-spiva/person/4964/appearances.html Billy Hathorn (talk) 19:06, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are only 1290 characters of main article prose (not counting the intro). ~ User:Ameliorate! (with the !) (talk) 09:02, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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