::Hah! That's nothing! A guy down our chip-shop, last Thursday, was overhead saying he was considering voting Tory! (next year, probably...)
::Hah! That's nothing! A guy down our chip-shop, last Thursday, was overhead saying he was considering voting Tory! (next year, probably...)
.... hmmm, "pathetic internet nerds who can't get laid and STD-infested sluts". Nice. I wonder what [[National Action (UK)|Hitler Club (UK)]] have to say about '''same sex''' inter-racial relationships!?
.... hmmm, "pathetic internet nerds who can't get laid and STD-infested sluts". Nice. I wonder what [[National Action (UK)|Hitler Club (UK)]] have to say about '''same sex''' inter-racial relationships!?
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Wait... I pasted the wrong link. Try this [https://en.wikipedia.org/?diff=621723060] [[User:EEng|EEng]] ([[User talk:EEng|talk]]) 22:17, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialogue, people's rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension.
... [7] ... then peace will guide the planets and love will steer the stars
... jus' coz... (most favouritist Jankel guitar solo(s) evva evva) (and even more brillianter live)!!
... an incessant driving backbeat, jazz syncopated piano (mmmm, those trills), sly vocal, soaring blues harp... just funk bliss ... and news just in: [8]
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That was 1979. Unfortunately the You-Beaut Aussie Sheila has undergone a general expansion in most directions, but not vertically, and her hair has changed colour, several times actually. It was a Wrennish sort of church. There was a bomb site next to it. And ghosts. I could possibly find it on a map, but it is probably overshadowed by some huge building now. 10:41, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
"A woman gets on a bus with her baby. The driver says: "Ugh, that's the ugliest baby I've ever seen."
The woman walks to the rear of the bus and sits down, fuming. She says to a man next to her: "The driver just insulted me." The man says: "You go up there and tell him off. Go on, I'll hold your monkey for you"-
Hafspajen (talk) 23:31, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
In Your Own Sweet Way
Thank you for quality contributions to articles on churches and halls in Wales, filled with music, for treating In Your Own Sweet Way in your own sweet way, for a clear view on ""a poorly-run bureaucracy with the group dynamics of a cult ... marks will be deducted for obvious expressions of exasperation or humour" - you are an awesome Wikipedian!
Aww, thank you so much, Gerda, although, as we all know, any award should be for: "random contributions to obscure articles, irritating addition of Easter egg pun-links in discussions and interminable arguments to retain despised articles." (but p.s. I always keep the seeds from your awards!!) Martinevans123 (talk) 10:25, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
So, Martinevans123, I have just spat the dummy on the FA discussion page of Wells Cathedral, and, just in case you are wondering, I want to make it absolutely clear that you had nothing to do with it. Amandajm (talk) 08:38, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi! It's a fair question. The answer is that that editor/those editors (don't know if there's one or two, but it looks like one with two names) not only spammed about a hundred links to the Getty archive, but in almost every case copied the archive description verbatim from that source (please follow the link I left in my edit summary for confirmation). That is the copyvio. If you want to add the Getty link back the article please feel free to do so; but please remove the copyvio which you have (inadvertently) restored. I've not opened a CCI about this so far, but if you feel that my judgement should receive some "official" scrutiny, I'm more than happy to do so. Best regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 23:31, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, still baffled. Yes, that's a Getty archive page, with an "archive description", but the text is not copied into the article? I still just don't get it, sorry. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:44, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I see what you mean now, thanks. Am still a little sceptical. And have made a small adjustment - is that enough. maybe? Have replied over there. Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 00:03, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
...And an alternative red roadster for those who may wish the world to see their "3-foot beaded peaked House of Whoville hat" heh heh...! PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 02:21, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply] ... call that a limo, you big "Nuncio"!?
I apologize for misusing the NPOV template. I thought I had posted my explanation on the talk page, but when I went back there were no comments from me there, which makes it look like a drive by. I must have gotten distracted and not finished.
I will post a detailed commentary later this week.
I know and respect Dr. Healy, but I think the article needs to reflect that his point of view is not universally accepted, and I'm concerned that his opinions and value judgments are being presented as undisputed facts throughout the article.
In many ways my argument is a simple one: WP:NPOV requires that the article weigh different points of view according to the extent to which they are adhered to by experts in the field. If Dr. Healy's point of view were universally accepted or even a majority viewpoint, the world would be a very different place and he would be part of the establishment rather than an outside critic of the system. Thus I think other points of view need to be represented in the article.
I look forward to an enjoyable and intellectually stimulating discussion.
I have a registered account but do not currently use it. It's a long story, but I its not because I was banned, blocked or anything of that sort, so much as that I felt I was subjected to a harassment campaign by another user. The weather here has been excellent, but I hope that the IP address trackers don't allow you to nail my location down closer than within a few miles. That would be a bit concerning. Fortunately my own use of these sites tells me my previous antagonist is not a Californian.
I'd like to see the rest of that article reworked a little so it reads a little less like a press release from Dr. Healy's agent, but don't want to stir up a lot of antagonism. So I'll leave it to you to suggest any further steps.
It's quite unacceptable, of course, that "a harassment campaign by another user" should lead a registered Wikipedia editor to have to resort to the filthy shadows of ip editing (even in sunny San Diego). I strongly urge you to bring this shady and disreputable reprobate to account in the proper manner. I, for one, have even been known to suggest monthly submissions of DNA samples as a means of keeping Wikipedia pure and safe. These fancy Welsh libertarian ideas are all very well, but I feel sorry for poor User:Materialscientist and the like who bravely spend 25-hours-a-day flushing ip trash down the tubes as fast as it floats to the surface (your own hallowed and sun-kissed ip address excepted, of course). Kind regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:34, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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How very strangely appropriate, almost as if someone had done this on purpose!! Thank heavens that nice polite Bot talks to me now and again, sob, sob... Martinevans123 (talk) 21:38, 11 January 2014 (UTC) ... it's no good Bot, we've been rumbled by some clever Swede....[reply]
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Thanks, Andy. Almost got there in time. Old TRiPoD likes to get really stuck in, sometimes, doesn't he. It's unfortunate that he seems to want to constantly destroy all manner of content. But then he knows all the policy rules, doesn't he. I'd never have the nerve to say he had a long-term corrosive and toxic effect on other editors, of course. Apparently I'm just good at serving soup. I wonder, what percentage of content at Wikipedia is supported by reliable secondary sources? And if the project better served by deleting on sight, or by searching for good sources to support. Yours, The Martians Have Landed (talk) 19:22, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The Original Van Damme Volvo - Epic Split advertisment - . the Original [16], and then the Epigons .. an undistinguished imitator, follower, or successor of an important writer, painter ..irony .. [17] ..then ...[18] I was drinking my whole life, [19] I was drinking my whole life, abusing and fighting..[20] that made me what 'I am today...Hafspajen (talk) 16:36, 28 January 2014 (UTC).[reply]
Greetings Martin. As I remember you had the knack for finding sources for vintage British games companies, I wondered if you could find something and start Bestime which made jigsaws and games for Enid Blyton in 1948.♦ Dr. Blofeld12:58, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
A bit of a mystery puzzle, that one. That Iowa State University source says: "The first Famous Five puzzle was published in 1955 by a company called Bestime. They published twenty puzzles, each painted by the Famous Five illustrator, Eileen Soper. Bestime also published different Enid Blyton characters as well as the Famous Five." This source says they published the first four "character jigsaws" in 1948. Looks like they published at least 20 Famous Five puzzles. van der Beek was the illustrator for the Noddy series. This Amelia Jane jigsaw dates from 1948 - same source has a "NODDY FINDS THE CAT SHOP" dated 1966. They also did this Tiddly Winks set. They even did Rock Legends and train jigsaws. But material about the company itself is a bit illusive. Sadly the company was finally dissolved, it seems, in 1973. Maybe someone at the Enid Blyton Society knows more. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:20, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I don't doubt it (whichever radio channel one chooses to listen to..) But we can't quite listen to tomorrow's radio yet, can we. I'm also surprised that you want to use a French Yahoo News source in the very first paragraph to support a claim that's not reflected in the main body. Not sure where it could best go. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:09, 22 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Martinevans Ch.1 v.23: "What's that you say Hafs, you wear the same jeans as your friend from the art-class, Guido Forks? Gosh, are you sure they're still in fashion?"
Sweep: "Some of these Admins can talk the hind-leg off a donkey, can't they!"
Sue: "Ooo. But not a jawbone, surely, Mr. Matthew!?"
.. but that's such a strange German Biblical translation, isn't it.. (must be a friend of Homer, I guess).
"Dydd Gwyl Dewi hapus!!" Martindruid123 gets his robes on
The Barnstar of Inland Inundation
Thanks for The Barnstar of Inland Inundation. It wasn't that much work (a couple of days) as chunks were copied and reformatted from existing articles (as shown on the talk page). I am thinking of changing it from Winter storms to Winter flooding - what do you think?— Rodtalk17:10, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well maybe that would better reflect the relative proportion of damage that has been done in the region. I do hope you escaped the worst where you are, Rod. It's an ongoing national disaster. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:14, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
.... "Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth"......... yeah!!!
No reason for reverting of edits
Hi! I saw you didn't like my edits on the Template:Innervisions page and decided to revert them. In the future, please provide a reason when you do so instead of simply doing so with no reason. That way, it can be debated in the Talk section whether or not the elements of the article in question should be in place. Thank you very much!
I guess you mean this change at Living for the City, not at Template:Innervisions? I would agree that a lot of what you had removed appeared to be original research. But if a source could have been provided, then it may not have been. That's why I restored it, copy edited and added a [citation needed] tag. I quite agree that the full set of lyrics should not appear. But some of what you had removed is merely a description of the song's content, similar to a description of the narrative of a novel. It's unfair to call this "original research", it's just a description. There is also some material at the Innervisions article, about the song, which could usefully be copied over and re-used. Thank you very much! Martinevans123 (talk) 17:57, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies that I didn't use an edit summary for that change, but the two immediately preceding edits, that you had made, likewise had no summary. The lack of any content on your User Page (which makes your name signature appear red) suggested to me that you might be a new or careless editor. I see now that you have made only 32 edits since you appeared in October 2013. But why not add a simple sentence about yourself at your User Page? It always engenders confidence that you are a "sincere" editor! Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:06, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your reply :) You make a lot of sense, and I think we both have valid points of view on this matter. Though, I actually did provide a summary for my first edit. Either way, the user Egghead06 has made great contributions to the article since our edits. I think the article is better now than it was yesterday. Also, thank you for the suggestion regarding my user page. Ironbirdiemix (talk) 19:14, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
By the way yes, I meant Living for the City, not Innervisions. Lol, thank you! And I meant to link to the page, not it as a template. My mistake. Ironbirdiemix (talk) 19:18, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Aha, Egghead06 just removed the text I added back. Didn't noticed that it would be forbidden to have the lyrics of a song in an article? Hafspajen (talk) 19:24, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it's certainly not forbidden, as far as I know, especially if they are for illustrative purposes. Just like for a poem, it seems strange to me that there should be an article at all without some reference to the words. The external link usually provides a route to the full lyric. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:28, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Take your cheese with you in the bathJah, Edgie and Holger practice for their new EPKatherine and Lucy demonstrate the famous "lateral one-two" (with controversial lute gesture)
Take him off or I am going to scream all the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"The tramp has always existed in some form or other, and he will continue on his wanderings until the end of time; but there is no question that he has come into public notice, particularly in America, to a greater extent during the present decade than ever before." -- Allan Pinkerton, 1877. He's no trouble, really, is he? :)
amd impresses everybody except for the juggler Kjell;
we are a good team here:
But even then there is one thing that makes me a little mad;
--
They call me Mogens, they call me Jens, they call out Holger Klaus;
I am not Danish, my name is Finn, I'm staying here at Tåsen, my name is Finn;
you all can remember Morten's name;
you remember
Anna-Beate,
Ramapatrikuna,
and even Gjertud
but not Finn;
No, never Finn
is that so hard?
MY NAME IS FINN!
His name is Finn;
His name is Finn;
His name is Finn;
We have said Erik;
We tryed Jensern;
We called him Anders;
And called him Kai;
But his His name is Finn
His name is Finn, it is easy!
Sudddenly Norvegians are kind of hip, cooler than cool, the pinnacle of what is "it". Beyond all trends and conventional coolness. Not to be mistaken for "deck". not that all old boring lefse-eating oil-magnats any more. (are we going too make any cheese article?) Hafspajen (talk) 17:16, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
So it seems that he was born in Southowram, or at least was baptised there. So is it also true to say he was born in Halifax. The Southowram article itself says that it is east of Halifax and not in it. I guess this was also true in 1832. I'm not surprised if Halifax wishes to claim him as an important son. And maybe this is just being overly pedantic. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:05, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome, and thanks for your interest. Yes, the problem with Barber is that he was all over these districts. He lived and worked in Halifax central for some decades, though. I don't have sensitive local knowledge of Halifax, so you're welcome to correct the article if necessary. It's been a massive task so far - I'm terrified to do more research, as I keep finding more jolly listed buildings by him, which means I have to research and include yet more stuff. It's fun though. --Storye book (talk) 17:15, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, ok. Thanks for that. I secretly suspect that Southowram might have to be corrected, although it is quite a way up the hill from Halifax itself. And in 1832 much of the intervening township of Siddall was probably not even there. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:42, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. My name is Aito Tayakimati, and I live ... from where many languages had his wordTeddyevans123 realises he's been duped by a mischievous troll (yet again... sob)
Sir Galahad, a typical hero
Hero is in general importance an admirable person who perform great deeds, and thus gaining great honour and glory. In Greek mythology called the heroes heroes (ἥρωι), from where many languages had his word for hero, as well as Swedish words heroic and heroism (heroism). The Greek heroerna often had divine descent, which is common even among heroes in other mythologies.
Literary significance[editing wikitext]
The main character in a narrative literary work is the character whose actions and destiny in her administration's red thread. Originally, there was no contradiction with the general definition, but then the aesthetics changed notably since the term realism has also been repealed failed people, people in tragic circumstances, evil people, and even people who don't do anything at all and not have anything fancy. Among works with such heroes include Kafka's the process, Louise Boije af Gennäs clean house, Samuel Beckett's waiting for Godot, Tolstoy's Anna Karenina .
(Not that is much better in the English article)Hafspajen (talk) 17:57, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
"You're not my kind of rabbit at all, cos your feet's too big!!"
G'day
Sir, I have examined your User page and have found you to have made some Valid Points there in your Cogent Arguments and I have decided to Take them under Advisement and have categorically vowed to consider appointing an ad hoc Board of Enquiry with the remit of examining the possibility of recommending the formation of a Steering Committee with a view to assembling a focus group to float a test balloon to gauge the required course of action. Oh, and thanks for your thanks, and....
Thank you, I was asked to go through the talk page as an editor objected to the promotion of the propramme even though these are honors and not commercial. Thank you for your support, I will try editting directly.
RMP2014 (talk) 14:58, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No worries. I can't guarantee you'll get a free pass everywhere - it's probably the sponsor's name that upsets the anti-commercial wiki zealots. But I'm sure there are many comparable sponsored awards and honours. Good luck. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:07, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
My stats have taken a real tumble this year...Russell in 1907. Oh, dear, that Victorian mustache (oh-so "last Monarch"!... but hmmm, very nice collar, Bertie
.Does this tree sentence feels good? number of oak trees in Germany that are referred to in this way' because they allegedly bear some sort of connection to the poet Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. the Goethe Oak.
... feels absolutely fine to me, apart from that dreadful bear of course....
..the results of too much wiki editing can be distressing for family and loved ones..
I agree; he has. Replacements: Richard Hibbard (Ospreys), Paul James (Bath Rugby), Adam Jones (Ospreys), Jake Ball (Scarlets), Justin Tipuric (Ospreys), Rhodri Williams (Scarlets), Rhys Priestland (Scarlets), James Hook (Perpignan). — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| —18:28, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Biggar will be the kicker. He has the confidence and the consistency. The French consider Hook to be the best of the Welsh playing in France, where he plays at 10. Priestland could be used but I suspect Hook who is a utility back is more likely to be used on Saturday. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| —23:05, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Haha, that's very kind of you. I don't limit my childishness to that Talk Page of course! One day I will take Wikipedia seriously (well, maybe). As to the origin of that fine quote - it's certainly not mine! Fellow Welshman User:Gareth Griffith-Jones may be able to shed some light on its origins. Regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:17, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I took the liberty to took your captions to Sagaciousphil's page, she needed someone clever to make captions, you know. was also trying to sell the idea with the sheep's chese for her. Hafspajen (talk) 19:17, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. Well I guess the first move has to be to create that, and them put in all that cheese stuff, but it would need more than what I put on her page because that was just from other articles. Hafspajen (talk) 19:44, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
And talking of conceited over-bearing loud-mouths... a number of editors I have encountered over the years sadly spring to mind as probably holding that creature as a dear personal icon. But then I am a bit of a Grandpa Lemon most of the time... Martinevans123 (talk) 11:30, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
?........................................................................................................................................no idea why. Hafspajen (talk) 03:16, 21 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
"My manner of living is plain. I do not mean to be put out of it. A glass of wine and a bit of mutton are always ready; and such as will be content to partake of them are always welcome. Those, who expect more, will be disappointed, but no change will be effected by it."
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You don't even have to go out any more (shame really, 30 years ago buying a 12" vinyl disk, in a cardboard sleeve, from a record shop, was just so incredibly satisfying... ) Martinevans123 (talk) 20:38, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! This article is the first comprehensive published biography of Barber, so it's worth the effort - a lot of effort, though! There is no known image of him except for the rather strange one by Wynfield, but when I did the interior photoshoot of one of Barber's buildings for WP, I found this corbel, which I believe to be a portrait of him. Or to put it another way, I can't see what else it can be - and if it's him, he had a great big beard, just like his more famous artist friends. The research has brought out quite a few things not publicly known today about him. --Storye book (talk) 11:31, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Rather impractical ones - there's a description of all the Pre-Raphaelite founder-members of Artists Rifles, and it says they all had great big beards - surely that's not according to army rules and regs for various practical reasons. But then it's said that those early members didn't go to war. Some of them spent a lot of time designing insignia and so on . . . all rather amusing. --Storye book (talk) 13:09, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Haha! Well spotted! But I also suspect that poor Barber had another reason for the beard besides Pre-Raphaelite fashion. He and his wife had a long marriage and no issue. Hence I'm guessing that the beard, in that sometimes cruel era, protected him from taunts respecting his masculinity. --Storye book (talk) 14:35, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you - it's waited patiently for its first review! It was an exciting building to photograph, especially inside the belfry (see images link, bottom right of article) --Storye book (talk) 15:19, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@ Martinevans: Yes I wondered about the curious relic. A ceremonial foundation-stone-laying implement is usually a diamond-shaped trowel - silver-plated and engraved, of course. This one, made with an ivory handle for the local rich, female benefactor, is actually in the shape of an oversized butter-knife. Maybe they thought she would know what to do with a butter knife (i.e. spread the mortar as if it were butter on bread), but that she might be offended at the sight of a workmanlike trowel, haha. --Storye book (talk) 17:11, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
A tag has been placed on Dave Guest requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement. This article or image appears to be a direct copy from http://www.bbc.co.uk/northwesttonight/content/articles/2006/12/30/dave_guest_feature.shtml. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.
So now, 18 days since it was created, I get a whole 62 minutes to guess which bits were "copyright infringement" before it's deleted. It looked like 95% facts to me. How do you re-write facts to avoid copyvio? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:25, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I kinda knew about that. With what is essentially a chronological list of facts, it's not always easy to re-write. No advice. No trials. No explanations. Just delete after 62 mins. Great. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:49, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
THIS IS the so called G12 : Text pages that contain copyrighted material with no credible assertion of public domain, fair use, or a compatible free license, where there is no non-infringing content on the page worth saving. Only if the history is unsalvageably corrupted should it be deleted in its entirety; earlier versions without infringement should be retained. For equivocal cases which do not meet speedy deletion criteria (such as where there is a dubious assertion of permission, where free-content edits overlie the infringement, or where there is only partial infringement or close paraphrasing), the article or the appropriate section should be blanked with .....
I would not call that unsalvageably corrupted. You should maybe ask Drmies or Yngvadottir for some advice, or any other admin you know that it is an admin. Unsalvageably should mean ... really bad. Hafspajen (talk) 22:04, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oops! I have this page watch-listed, I have no idea why, and now see that a page I speedied was one of yours. The username didn't click with me at the time, and I didn't spend a whole lot of time looking at the wider history. I'm sorry about that. For what it's worth, I think it was pretty closely similar to the original source. If you want to check you'll presumably ask to have it back. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:12, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Um, well, yes, a series of chronological facts can be quite similar to another series of the same facts, I think. No explanation. No advice. Not even any gentle prodding... just "gone in 60 seconds". The most annoying part - I'm left with nothing. I'm not on any crusade here. Just not sure another go is worth the effort. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:26, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I imagine that if you ask Jimfbleak, who deleted it at my request and is one of the good guys, he will restore the content to you in one way or another, as would any admin I know of. I suppose whether it's worth the effort or not in the end depends on whether the guy is really notable – it might be quite annoying to do more work on it and then find it didn't survive at AfD for example. Again, sorry about this. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:56, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Warrington, next time include the link--redlink or not! Saves me a bunch of clicking around through people's deleted contributions. Dave Guest is, for my taste, way too close to the original BBC document, sorry. But I restored some of it, so you can start anew. Just make sure it doesn't get tagged db-person, haha. Drmies (talk) 22:59, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I messaged User:Jimfbleak, but no response after nearly two hours. When I created the article I got the copyvio warning (as expected), so quickly did some paraphrasing. How am I to know if that paraphrasing was enough, or where it was lacking? After 18 days I had assumed the new warning was for notability, not copyvio. I'm not sure how Mr Guest can be less notable than seven of his less senior colleagues. Just lacking a bit of transparency here. I don't create a lot of new articles... but if this is what happens, I am left thinking "why bother". Martinevans123 (talk) 23:06, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Doktor Mice. You restored some if it, hahaha. Thanks so much. I'll just have to guess which bits were no good. Again, as I remember it, this was more or less a set of life history facts. Not sure I will ever know where I went so wrong. Sorry to upset your tastes. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:13, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I could go into detail, but not right now: our company is here. Take my word for it, as an admin and an English prof. Later, Drmies (talk) 23:30, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
(Late comment before dashing to work) I rejiggered material in your version to re-expand Drmies' version, and found an additional award I was able to add. I hope that helps. Yngvadottir (talk) 04:39, 29 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I did not reply within two hours, even unpaid volunteers have to sleep! I see that two other admins seem to have sorted this out. FWIW, I considered that your version of the two paragraphs beginning He worked on the Lancaster Guardian... was too close a paraphrase of the original to be accepted as your own work rather than a copyright infringement. Jimfbleak - talk to me?06:28, 29 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
What I don't understand here is, if something is perceived to be a copyvio, why don't editors just adjust text (or remove the offending text) to correct the problem, rather than deleting the whole lot? Or is it the case that perceived copyvio material can't even appear in article history? If the latter is the case, there are several articles which I've worked on to remove copyvios, which it seems should be deleted as well, and any vandal wanting to cause a lot of headaches just needs to dump copyvio material into loads of articles, so they all have to be deleted.... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 08:06, 29 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, well he certainly likes to take his shirt off, doesn't he. Ooo-errrr missus. But of course, I've been there done that, got the wiki t-shirt
I'm here because of another article (Dave Lawson (musician)) that was another copyright violation. You should write an article in your own words, not tweak the words of another (unless it is a public domain source). That is how you avoid Close paraphrasing. Also, you need to abide by the non-free content rules as well; these twoimages you uploaded this week do not have sufficient fair use rationales and they are both of higher resolution permissible under the non-free content criteria. I hope you adhere to our copyright policies in future or you will end up blocked and Wikipedia will lose one of it's prolific content contributors. While I'm here I can answer some of the points posed in this conversation thread. Hafspajen, if you read the whole section that you quoted, you'll see that it explicitly says that copyrighted material should be removed "...vandalism should be completely removed, as should material that violates copyright...". PaleCloudedWhite, yes, copyrighted material should be deleted from the article history, admins will delete selected revisions that violate copyright, you can see that I have done this here. James086Talk19:46, 29 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure why File:Winter_Moon.jpg fails fair use. And I thought File:Slim Harpo.jpg was borderline. To save you the trouble, I've deleted both of those images from the articles which they enhanced so well. Someone might want to reduce those precious pixels so someone else doesn't nick them to make fake album covers.
Regarding Dave Lawson (musician), your very efficient revisions epitomise the problem for the misguided copyright violator like myself - you've hidden all those edits that were transgressions so I now have no way of checking what they were! But it's my perennial problem - how to "write in my own words" a series of life events which (to me) appear as plain facts and in a certain necessary order. The irony of your complaints over this particular article is somewhat heightened, however, by the way I came to write it. I actually emailed Dave himself (via that link on his website) as soon as I had created it, to ask him if he had a problem with it, explaining that most of it was taken from his own website page. He was quite pleased (I can send you copies of my emails if you are really interested!) I realise that my devious methods have no place in the panoply of wiki-Regeln-und-Gesetze, alas. But I felt morally bound to do this of my own bat. In fact I began to feel a bit of a fraud when I started to try and re-write the material "in my own words" just to save me from copyvio-telling-offs (like the one you have just given me) lol.
Sure, James, one section above I said the same thing to M*you are not supposed to use the same wording. Use your synonyms. Change the order of the sentence... This discussion above is more like general tendencies all over the place. ... Hafspajen (talk) 20:50, 29 March 2014 (UTC)Like half of the Christmas article deleted and so[reply]
If I make the mistake – that you dared to tell me – would give me sincerer honor – toward you – I enclose my name – asking you, if you please – Sir – to tell me what is true? That you will not betray me – it is needless to ask – since Honor is it's [sic] own pawn – Hafspajen (talk) 22:43, 29 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
By my Window have I for Scenery
Just a Sea — with a Stem —
If the Bird and the Farmer — deem it a "Pine" —
The Opinion will serve — for them —
It has no Port, nor a "Line" — but the Jays —
That split their route to the Sky —
Or a Squirrel, whose giddy Peninsula
May be easier reached — this way —
For Inlands — the Earth is the under side —
And the upper side — is the Sun —
And its Commerce — if Commerce it have —
Of Spice — I infer from the Odors borne —
Of its Voice — to affirm — when the Wind is within —
Can the Dumb — define the Divine?
The Definition of Melody — is —
That Definition is none —
It — suggests to our Faith —
They — suggest to our Sight —
When the latter — is put away
I shall meet with Conviction I somewhere met
That Immortality —
Was the Pine at my Window a "Fellow
Of the Royal" Infinity?
Apprehensions — are God's introductions —
To be hallowed — accordingly —.
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Hafs - I urge you to re-write the above passage avoiding close paraphrasing. It appears to have been copied verbatim from a a book of Nordic Runes. I would pollock you, but you are obviously a bit dim. Regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:51, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I don't want to block you, besides, it would be inappropriate for me to do so now that you have attempted to antagonise me. The two images don't have valid fair use rationales, that doesn't mean you couldn't make a valid claim of fair use. You just need to write a valid fair use rationale for each, filling out the template with proper assertions, instead of leaving a couple of sections with "n.a.", would be sufficient. For example for File:Slim Harpo.jpg the reason it can't be replaced with free media is that it is a copyrighted cover and Hip-O Records is definitely not going to release it under a free license. NFCC criterion 1 is definitely applicable. As for the content that's been removed, you don't even need to know what it was, because if you want to add any info to the article, it shouldn't be copied from somewhere else anyway. The content removed from Dave Lawson was copied from [44], the first sentence verbatim, the second sentence with very little change, the third sentence verbatim and the fourth with "RAF" added before the word "service". Unfortunately it's not even ironic. Mr Lawson probably doesn't understand the implications of his content being on Wikipedia and, unless he explicitly stated that he releases it into the public domain or under a free license, it's insufficient. You can read more about why here. I ask once again for you to avoid close paraphrasing as it is still violating the copyright of the author. Read the page, it gives a walkthrough of how to avoid it. As for the church in Clifford, I will delete the offending revisions from the history of the article, the talk page is fine because it is quoting for the sake of comparison, which requires the exact wording for that comparison and the quotes are attributed to the author. James086Talk03:52, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I forgot to mention, now that the two images aren't used in any articles they are eligible for deletion under WP:CSD#F5 and someone will tag them as such (it typically happens within 24 hours as the database report refreshes). Adding them back to the articles will save them. James086Talk03:59, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ah right, you could block me, but it's "inappropriate" because I don't like your Talk Page. I can easily say I like it, if you prefer. Your replies are very informative and wholly discouraging. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:31, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
"Dave was educated at Lyndhurst, Charterhouse and Tonbridge, where he received his first formal music training." - did I actually copy that sentence in verbatim? I see that the article now has no details of his education at all. That's the sort of material I see as a simple set facts that cannot easily be paraphrased. And easily added with useful links. I guess it's just easier to delete material, than to re-write it, and then to point out who is to blame. I don't find being threatened with a block particularly encouraging. It sometimes looks more like a punishment for being naughty. I would suggest that "paraphrasing" and "close paraphrasing" can be a grey area. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:42, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I checked again, you copied it, but changed the first word from "Dave" to "Lawson", otherwise the same. Having no article is better than have a copyright infringement so the lack of information about his education is simply down to nobody adding it in a valid manner. There is plenty of really good information lacking from Wikipedia that could be copy/pasted in, I would delete that too, as would any admin. Here is an alternative wording for that first paragraph of [45] that did not take long to come up with:
Lawson studied music first at Lyndhurst, Charterhouse and Tonbridge, then primarily studied piano through private tuition under Stan Tracey while enlisted in the Royal Air Force. He served for five years in the RAF School of Music where he studied flute, soprano saxophone and clarinet. Upon finishing his RAF service he continued to study piano with Tracey.
You may copy that from here to the article if you wish because it is freely licensed, I already appear in the article history; required for attribution under the CC license. That paragraph includes the facts, in a logical order and worded significantly differently to the source material. It is usually easier to delete material than to rewrite it (although not always) but I am under no obligation to rewrite the infringing text, deletion is a sufficient fix. However, you are obliged not to add copyrighted material to Wikipedia. James086Talk17:06, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hello again James. That's very good of you to suggest an alternative wording which, of course looks fine. I find that a lot of material on Wikipedia, which seems to have been re-written by an editor to avoid copy-vio, is hideously awkward and contrived. I'm sure that you can see things from my perspective too, where the illegal edits I made have been redacted and so no longer visible to me. I can see why this is necessary, for legal reasons, but it is obviously an inequitable and inefficient way of editing, and for encouraging better editing. Ideally, I guess, infringements would be automatically reported back to an editor's Talk Page, similar to bracket-bot and disambiguation-bot.
I also realise that in your role of copyright policeman you don't have time to go around correcting everyone's copyright infringements. And nor should you. I also realise that the sheer volume of work you undertake means that you may sometimes appear to have a rather curt and direct tone.
I fully realise Wikipedia's obligations with regard to copyright and have not wilfully disregarded them intentionally. As I tried to explain, I seem to have a particular problem with what appears to me to be simple facts. In that context, I did not find your suggestion that I would be blocked particularly helpful. But thank you for taking the time to come back and provide practical suggestions. I won't be creating any new articles for a while, thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:42, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Mark Menzies
My mistake, he has resigned from a ministerial age following allegations in the Mirror and Sun (I think), at first I thought he resigned as an MP, but hasn't.
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2008 at the [[University of Minnesota]], and was able to blow out candles at {{convert|180|ft|m}}).<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am12NZwr3Fk&feature=related Erbert and Gerberts Candle
Hi Martin. Re the edit on Colin Ireland, have a look at the IP's talk page where I've just posted a message that should explain the reason for my apparently unwarranted revert. The SPI page linked from there explains a bit more too. No problem with your re-addition of the info, of course. HTH, —SMALLJIM14:27, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oh yes, it says Surrey in the article, doesn't it? Good spot, Nailsworth Gloucestershire is definitely correct. Thanks. Rob (talk) 18:38, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, ok - "I don't like it". But just like the infamous ORANGE BAR OF DOOM, the removal of which was the worse thing that ever happened at wikipedia, I'm already beginning to like the new version. For things like this there should be a vote, not just "consensus" but a real vote. Guess it's too much bother. In my experience wiki editors tend to be quite "conservative" with a small (sans serif) a. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:24, 4 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That depends what you see. And how. I don't know what you are looking at right now, and what you see - but it was what I saw, see here - and it was no good. Don't tell me that this was pleasant, because I will not belive it. Hafspajen (talk) 10:34, 4 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
How truly touching. I shall treasure it always. Who needs smelly old Norwegian sheep cheese, when one has the glorious riches of odiferous Orinetal bean curd?! Martinevans123 (talk) 15:56, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
New Boots and Panties!!
Hello Martin, I can see that you have an interest in the New Boots and Panties!! article. :-) I hope you don't feel I've been treading on your toes with my edits – I'm just trying to organise the article along the lines of the Wikipedia album article style guide, with the objective of getting it up to good article status at some point. I'd like to get as many as possible of the classic British punk/postpunk/new wave/synthpop albums from 1977 to 1985 up to (or at least close to) GA status, as this is obviously a musical time and place that Wikipedia doesn't cover very well at all, as it's hard to get hold of a lot of the original articles, interviews and reviews.
I must admit I'm not entirely sure about using block quotes in the album review section, but maybe that's just my personal preference – if the article ever goes up for GA nomination we'll see what the other reviewers think. When I'm back in the UK over the summer I'll try and head down to the British Library and dig out the original reviews of the album from the music press, at least to try and put critics' names and dates to the reviews. I should also get hold of the Ian Dury biographies at some point so the references can be more accurately quoted with page numbers, etc. Cheers. Richard3120 (talk) 17:50, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It's only one of the greatest albums every recorded. But not at all, those block quotes were only an idea as the quotes were so long. By all means do anything that will help for GA status. Did someone mention twenty tiny toes?
"I know a lovely old toe-rag obliging and noblesse
If trying to cheer you up is antagonising, I antagonise cheers by repeated sorrow, in the uncomfortable position. Should I add your name to those on top of my talk? - My position is Trotz, I mean singing ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:06, 24 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Did you see the contemplation about the men leaving and we women have to do the work? (found in my affair with the bracketbot) - I will have to write on the motet also, eventually, the repetition of Trotz needs coverage ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:19, 24 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for digging out the source. From the way the citation was coded in the article, I was under the impression it was not available online, which is why I asked you. The question of whether Freud's advice was acted upon is not directly answered by the text but, like you, I am inclined to infer that it was not. It is hair-raising to think that this august "Father of Psychoanalysis" was dishing out such alarming advice, and according to the article, that another shrink, René Laforgue, told Princess Marie that she was frigid because her mind was too masculine. These characters had barely evolved beyond the barber-surgeon stage. Pass me those leeches, would you? — O'Dea (talk) 11:12, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, all a bit surprising since x-rays were hardly "new technology" by the end of the 1920s. But fear not, my good man, we have no need of leeches here! Sigmund could burn off such pests with his very large cigar!! And, besides, we should all note that this guy also had quite a large beard. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:26, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You're So Vain
What did I do wrong referencing the Howard Stern Show and why is mine different from reference [13] to an NBC show on that page? Thanks. Tsunami3 (talk) 18:54, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Tsunami - I don't doubt your sincerity or your accuracy. I'm guessing it's the right channel, the right show, the right episode... it's just that there's no content in that link. We just have to take your word for it - that you heard it correctly! It's a bit of original research - and would still be even if you made a transcription of the show and published it. What we really need is a link to a recording of the show or some kind of printed evidence. I'm sure there are thousands of sources like this all over Wikipedia. Sorry to be so picky. And I might be wrong - feel free to ask around. :) Martinevans123 (talk) 19:04, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Death by unusual fruit...
It seems that "I've got a lovely bunch of unusual deaths.."
Or, to paraphrase "The Kid": "Oh Annie! He WAS your Daddy!"
This might come in handy (but it could do with an ENGVAR tweak...) "PaleyCoco"
Right! Let's see something DECENT... and MILITARY!! ... [59] ... I Should Coco!!
List of deaths in rock and roll
I'm trying to coordinate discussion on criteria for inclusion, on the article talk page. You may like to contribute. Thanks. Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:09, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
There are lots of barnstars that exist on Wikipedia but the awesome COWSTAR has no equals! You are one of the few recipients of this prestigious award!--MONGO13:47, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed one needs at least a four-chambered stomach to deal with even the saner elements at our noticeboards. Our COWSTAR maiden is fortunate to never have a portion of her wind up as a seafood appetizer....but that didn't stop Bishzilla from eating her cowstar whole! --MONGO17:45, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
arhh, does one ever find pearls, I wonder...? jeez, the greedy cow!! (... sorry Bish, only kidding)
RIP Rik ... what Wikipedia is all about, in so many ways: [60]
danny Cohen opinion in lede
I know the instinct is to praise someone after they have died but Rik Mayall wasnt universally loved. Plus the link doesn't appear to have the quote: "a "truly brilliant" comedian with a unique stage presence, whose "fireball creativity" and approach to sitcom had inspired a generation of comedy stars.[1]"
The actual website says: "BBC director of television Danny Cohen said Mayall was "a truly brilliant comedian". "His comic timing was outstanding and his screen presence unique. For a generation of viewers he was a true comedy hero."Tremello (talk) 10:02, 12 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Tremello. Yes, obituary praise can be a bit over-the-top, can't it. And the text should accurately reflect whatever Cohen said, no question of that. But this guy is Director of BBC Television. This may not make him a good critic of contemporary comedy, but it does mean his comments about popular entertainment are notable. If there are negative comments about Mayall, by all means propose them for inclusion. But if you really think Cohen's remark does not belong in the article, I think you'll need to raise that at the Talk Page. Regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:10, 12 June 2014 (UTC) p.s. I've already been sent three "thanks" for my revert. gloat, gloat...![reply]
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Philips singing the [[operatic]] introduction, fronted the group, which then went on to record an [album. Throughout his life, Spiro wrote many other football songs, recorded by major teams,
Why do I need to cite about the word filter from LBP? It censored computer, filtering, happened, skyscraper, analogue, Uranus, homosexuality, even queue, even though there is something called a Queue in LBP. I didn't citate to any persons or websites, I know from experience with the soon to be trilogy of LBP. So why undo my edit? It's within the topic, right? 68.51.28.219 (talk) 22:00, 15 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies for the inadvertent collateral damage to your edits here; you apparently started editing just after I started my reversion to get rid of the "rabbit" stuff, and for whatever reason the system didn't give me an edit conflict warning. --Arxiloxos (talk) 22:03, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, these things often happen. Only a small edit - was just trying to tidy up. But a bit odd also as my dab link on the film was retained!? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:06, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I prematurely undid your change to the 2014 FIFA World Cup#Cooling breaks section. I read it too fast and thought you removed it altogether. I still think stating the temperature at the start of the game (which is below 32°) appears to be a contradiction of the rule and think it's important to state the criteria that went into making the decision. I also thin the AP article is overstating the the fact the the breaks are "supposed to occur in the 30th and 75th minutes". The way I read your FIFA sourced article, the breaks could take place "anytime after" the 30th and 75th minute. I'm still looking for a better source that will include all of this information. Hoof Hearted (talk) 14:51, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
:-) According to the chart in this article, the conditions at the beginning of the match (30°C, 66% relative humidity) correlate to a WBGT of at least 32°. I'd still like to know the conditions right at 39', but I think I can rest easy that we didn't uncover another conspiracy. It may be considered OR to put this source in the article though - best to wait and see if a proper source will document it. Hoof Hearted (talk) 15:45, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I got your second email - I had already unconsciously edited the first in my mind to match what the second one says. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:46, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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So you think the important information, showing at this is not the first time Luis Suárez has bit another player is not relevant because I think it's pretty damn relevant showing the seriousness of the incident and to show it has happened before and if this (insert expletive here) is aloud to carry on he will do it again. Lukejordan02 (talk) 18:55, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, I think he should be banned for 2 years full stop not just from International Football, after all the other 2 incidents were Club matches. Then after the two years he should be made to play wearing a muzzle. Sorry again for losing my cool. Lukejordan02 (talk) 19:30, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Nothing. Did you pay the bill? EEng (talk) 21:46, 29 June 2014 (UTC) P.S. Hey, would it be too much to ask you to comment at 3family6_made_me_do_it on TDYK?[reply]
Ok, fixed that but had to revert to the redirect. I don't want to block anyone over this but obviously one editor was edit-warring after I warned him - and how did a new account end up there? Dougweller (talk) 12:53, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Martinevans123, thanks for liking material I've contributed to Vivian Maier. I've just reverted an edit made by another editor on this page, and I've initiated a discussion on Maier Talk page. Your opinion would be welcomed. Best, Mick gold (talk) 17:24, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
"Elvis's beloved teddy bear Mabel was made in 1909 by the German manufacturer Steiff. It was on display at a children's museum near Wookey Hole Caves near Wells, England, when Barney, a Doberman Pinscher guard dog went wild and destroyed it and damaged about 100 other valuable stuffed animals in the summer of 2006. The insurance company had insisted that the valuable teddy bears be protected by guard dogs." - Colonel "Nosey" Parker.
This hookah deserves a few pulls.Like DYK hooks, a good beer needs to be pulled a few times before tasting great
Made it at last! I've never been involved in such a complex process to get a DYK promoted before. Congrats for all the hard work you did towards it. Too much OR IMO. Cheers. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:39, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks very much for the useful information. It's surprising there is such a split through the project. Nearly every article I have ever edited - an I've edited quite a few - uses Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). and a References section - I guess that's why we've got those short cuts at the bottom of the edit screen. Do you know what the logic is, if any, behind this split? I had fallen into the habit of adding bare urls and then converting with Reflinks. But now that the tools have disappeared, it's not so easy. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:26, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It is my understanding that the "split" (actually, "atomization" would be a better word, since literally thousands of different referencing styles are involved, not just the three broadest categories) came about because of an inability for editors to reach consensus on a uniform referencing format for Wikipedia. The core document is at WP:CITEVAR, but the vitriolic discussion of the subject goes back many years, and I have not read anywhere near all of it.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 07:36, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
What a surprise! A vitriolic and unresolved discussion at Wikipedia! Haha. I would never have guessed. But sorry to put you to the bother of tidying the refs I added. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:42, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
From personal experience I can tell you that at Harvard it's not called "Harvard Style" but rather Yale Style. At Yale they call it Princeton Style, and at Princeton it's called Cambridge Style, unless it has the Oxford Comma... EEng (talk) 13:20, 5 July 2014 (UTC) Disclosure notice: recycled joke. .....Disclosure notice: recycled editor.Martinevans123 (talk) 16:35, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No probs about tidying refs. I do this constantly, because I am a bit of a fanatic about uniformity of ref formats (within an article). Although I do not have the benefit of an Ivy League education, I am aware of the fact that Harvard washes their hands of this class of citation styles (there are actually five or six major styles of parenthetical referencing, and probably a dozen more minor variants), though I did not know about Yale and Princeton's positions on the subject. To me it seems best to use the neutral and descriptive "parenthetical referencing" for the broader category, though for the more specific variant found in the Bartók article (which includes the format used in the list of sources, as well as the inline citations) it may be designated "Chicago style", or even more specifically, "Style B of the Chicago Manual of Style".—Jerome Kohl (talk) 20:14, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Now just look here, Bot! I've never ever been to the Jazz Hall of Fame. And even if I had I'd never admit to it. And yes it was unintended, ok?! Give a guy a break why don't cha! Jeeeeeeeez. Sorry, I mean Jaaaaaaaaaz. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:39, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Wit is a form of intellectual humour. A wit is someone skilled in making witty remarks. A witty remark is an incisive observation, put with humor and said in the perfect moment, Martwitevans123. Hafspajen (talk) 04:12, 6 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
"The glass is always half full even when it's upside down". - Ian Parsons
Tommy, John Lennon and Portsmouth (and a coincidence with Rolf Harris)
One of the pieces of trivia about Tommy is that John Lennon has a cameo role in it. Some people have insisted that he is an occupant of one of the cars in I'm Free (YouTube video here, screenshot of 1:36 here). On closer examination it probably isn't him, but more importantly, Lennon is not known to have left the USA during the early 1970s, as he was worried that if he did, he would not be granted a visa to get back in again.[80] Lennon was finally granted a Green card in 1976. The seaside and holiday camp scenes in Tommy were filmed in the Portsmouth area in the summer of 1974. It is almost inconceivable that Lennon could have turned up on the set of the film with no-one remembering it. See also Talk:Tommy_(1975_film)#John_Lennon.3F.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me)11:53, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Times have changed. Can you imagine Ed Sheeran putting out an album with his bell end[a] on the front cover?
If GabeMc hadn't retired, I could have pulled him in here and got him to dig out at least three reliable sources that stated Lennon left for New York in 1971 and never returned to Britain. Yoko was not a fan of the place and resented the hostility towards her (mind you, if you released Unfinished Music No. 1: Two Virgins - what the hell did you expect?) Ritchie333(talk)(cont)11:45, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Shortages were noticed in 2011. I took the bird that appeared then to more than 10k viewers although it is "invisible", drumming to the German Main page, in memory of the missing author whose departure I commented on DYK screaming (... that Martin Luther's chorale Aus tiefer Not schrei ich zu dir (From deep affliction I cry out to you) was sung at his own funeral?) and for/of whom I wrote He was despised (the first of too many). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:00, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It's always been a mystery to me how it could be that the same nation produced both Monty Python and Benny Hill. EEng (talk) 10:19, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
'ee lad, 'appen them rich soothern lads get all the best nosh. 'E were right healthy lookin', compaired wi' us poor boogers int' North, baaah 'eck! Martinevans123 (talk) 08:39, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You are right in that the source names Kemistry. Unfortunately the article quoted uses our article as a source, creating a circular sourcing problem. I did not question the "unusual death" element of the article. Britmax (talk) 09:36, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Circularity is certainly a vaid reason for removal. But I'd be quite amazed if another source couldn't be found. In fact, I'd be interested to see details of any other death caused by a catseye worldwide. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:44, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Relaxing at last month's wikimeetJohn Wayne relaxing at last month's wikimeet
Why don't you stop wasting your time on Flight 17
...and come back and waste your time at DYK? The atmosphere is getting pretty heavy there, so we could use some leavening levity. EEng (talk) 02:18, 21 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You're forgiven. But there's little point in this conversation. As a Wikipedian, I kinda have to say, yeah, children are just people. As a father, well, children are very special people and it breaks my heart to think of these ones (and the ones in Gaza, and everywhere else). A Dutch reporter listed in de Volkskrant what all objects he found there. One object was a little notebook; the child had practiced writing "ananas" ("pineapple"). Another thing he found in a field was a little bright orange shirt with, you guessed it, graphics from the Dutch football team on it. I imagine it was a bright orange football shirt very much like the bright orange football shirt my boy was wearing when we were watching the Netherlands against Argentina. He's not even two, so he doesn't know when to cheer and for whom, but he's learning. Just humans, but special ones. Drmies (talk) 23:00, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
We saw the shirts on television, draped over some twisted metal. I hope you never have to suffer the loss of a child. "... let it go", eh? Martinevans123 (talk) 07:15, 23 July 2014 (UTC),[reply]
I can't even imagine. Odd, but the orange shirts seem to be mentioned in every other Dutch newspaper article. No connection to the Orange Revolution of course, though I was kind of struck by that coincidence. Yeah. Drmies (talk) 20:26, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No, yeah, children are just people not - children are much more vulnerable, capable of being physically or emotionally wounded or hurt - don't be crazy adults now. Hafspajen (talk) 14:13, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That there were a lot children belongs in the article because it apparently matters to people, as seen in the frequent mentions in sources, and quotations from people commenting on the event. However, may I suggest that for a hot-button topic like this, effort be focused on keeping inappropriate material out, and worry less about making sure all appropriate material is in. There's plenty of time to add that nuance after the crazies have departed. EEng (talk) 21:33, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Flight level 330
FL330 is approximately 33,000 ft above mean sea level and not exactly because it is set relative to a standard barometric pressure and is not relative to the ground. This is to ensure that all aircraft in an area agree on their altitude even though the local pressure would indicate otherwise. When an aircraft drops out of the flight levels the altimeter is set to the local pressure and indicates the actual height above Mean Sea Level. FL330 will only equal 33,000 ft above sea level when the local air pressure at sea level happens to be exactly 1013.25 hPa and, furthermore, will only equal the height above ground when a pressure is set at the airfield that causes the altimeter to then read zero. Ex nihil (talk)12:56, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I came here to tell you the same. Regarding this edit, I suggest just taking out the "approximately". An issue like this, while interesting, is not worth dwelling on in this article. All measurements other than counts are inherently approximate so we don't really need to state this. --John (talk) 12:59, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
"FL330 will only equal 33,000 ft above sea level when the local air pressure at sea level happens to be exactly 1013.25 hPa" - no, I don't think so. Local air pressure at sea level is irrelevant when you're at 33,000 ft. But you're right about dropping out of FLs, when you do revert to local pressure. I also agree that we could leave out "approximately". Martinevans123 (talk) 13:07, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I was just editing Dorchester, Dorset and there was some kind of clash with your editing -- hope you didn't read this as "warfare"! Do you have any objections to the inclusion of the image? I just felt the page was a little drab, and Stinsford is presumably more or less a suburb of Dorchester today. But the image it isn't highly relevant to the page. Rwood128 (talk) 16:00, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Haha, no worries. What a lovely picture - whoever could have taken that! Maybe an image of Hardy himself, or one of the others would be better? But I'm not sure Stinsford is really a suburb of Dorchester, even today. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:07, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
A barnstar for you!
The Original Barnstar
I keep going over to Talk:Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 to see if anything needs to be done, and I keep finding that you've already taken care of matters, in a calm and collected manner and in compliance with not just our policies, but also with general propriety and good taste. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 02:43, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Lol, as if. I was told, not so long ago (by a highly esteemed contributor) that I'm a "ignorant lazy bastard" who doesn't even know what a museum is. So who am I to argue. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:45, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello Martinevans123, Why have you removed my contribution? You can see the influence of Russell on Txillardegi here: Azurmendi, J. 1999: Txillardegiren saioa: hastapenen bila, Jakin, 114: 17-45. ISSN 0211-495X. Thanks (Ketxus (talk) 12:29, 30 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]
Hi Ketxus. I removed it as it was unsourced. I've now restored it with a source from his article. Please feel free to improve on that ref source if needs be. Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:36, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi Martin: Fine. Go ahead and remove it, John. There will be no effort on my part to return it to the article if you delete it. ... Brian Dell (talk) 23:39, 28 July 2014 (UTC) -
With John being my real name (how'd he figure that out?) - I deleted it. Your version still stands and the bottom of the section. Sometimes it's best to drop the banana. Feel free to delete this comment Montenegroman (talk) 11:28, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Did you say bananas? Have lambananas ;) - Did you know why you should read that soprano Ada Cherry Kearton was married to wildlife photographer Cherry Kearton and recounted their travels in her autobiography On Safari? - Would you believe that a RM close of 2012 is still hotly debated (on the talk, to be precise, and I didn't have the last word ...)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:53, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. Just wanted to talk about Tom Daley's Personal Life entry. I noticed that you did an Undo of my edit to say "is gay". I understand that you want to make the tense of the verb agree with the fact that Tom made his statement about his sexuality in the past and so changed it back to "was gay". To me, that sounds as though he was gay in the past and isn't any more. Would you mind if I change it back to "is gay"? Marosc9 (talk) 12:06, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That's an interesting topic, actually. Notice the mention of catalog vs. cagtalogue. The reason American libraries have catalogs is Melvil Dewey, someone every American schoolchild hears a bit about, imagining him to be a kindly gentleman librarian, which he was not:
Even Dewey's friends found his personality difficult, and he early in life established a pattern of making powerful enemies.[5] As one biographer put it, "Although he did not lack friends, they were weary of coming to his defense, so endless a process it had become. Another biography refers to Dewey's "old nemesis—a persistent inability to control himself around women" as an ongoing cause of trouble on the job. In 1904 the New York State Board of Regents received a petition demanding Dewey's removal as State Librarian because of his personal involvement in the Lake Placid Club's policy of excluding Jews and other religious and ethnic groups...
He was also a spelling reformer (thus the catalogs) and metrification zealot. Imagine what he'd be like at a dinner party. EEng (talk) 21:50, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Marosc9. Is this use of the "historical present tense"? I'm not sure. I'm not that bothered. Just two points - encyclopedias tend to put things in the past tense, but that's far from being a rule here. And or course since he made that statement, he might have decided that he isn't gay any, more after, all! A bit unlikely I know, but how do we know? It's Tom up there, on the 10m platform, in those tiny swim trunks, not you and me!! If you change it back I won't change it again. But you could ask for other views at the Talk Page? Thanks for asking. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:46, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I did spot this on the news last night - there was a 2 minute retrospective of what he's been up to in the last 20 years. Still, if your collar gets felt, you could always ask to play on Rolf's wobbleboard for a laugh. Now for homework, imagine what would happen if this furniture maker got into trouble and was all over the news. Ritchie333(talk)(cont)14:50, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'm minded of that old Welsh proverb, which (very roughly) translates as ... "ostiches and kangaroos make uneasy bedfellows". But I hear the Bullingdon is rather jolly at this time of year. It's a long way from Pontarddulais to Pretoria, but a very short way back. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:08, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I notice you're not reminded, since for that you'd need to have had a mind in the first place. Anyway, my question is... Will it play in Peoria?EEng (talk) 20:21, 4 August 2014 (UTC) P.S. That also reminds me of another Welsh proverb, which (very roughly) translates as ... "Two gloves do not a hat make."[reply]
That's not one I've ever seen, but obviously you're going to look pretty daft with two gloves on you head. lol. One of my favourites "Cwsg gwir ar ddrain, ni chwsg anwir ar blu." Another one I've seen on the net, but which I've never seen or heard "for real" is one I might choose as the epitaph for Wikipedia: "Nid yw llwy yn gwybod y blas o gawl, na ffwl a ddysgwyd blas doethineb" or roughly "A spoon does not know the taste of soup, nor a learned fool the taste of wisdom." Martinevans123 (talk) 20:44, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Dougie McDonald referee is a known problem search term. This is producing multiple instances of "Some results may have been removed under data protection law in Europe". But will he be the star? Anyway, having read through Dougie McDonald, the controversy section could be trimmed as it is too long for a BLP of this length.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me)20:17, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It is a BLP, and the controversy is getting to the stage where it is the tail that wags the dog in the article. Someone suggested on Talk:Dougie McDonald that it should be split off into a separate article. If - and it is still if at the moment - it turns out to be him, it should be split off. My guess is that Jimbo may not want to name the person because it would lead to immediate and further controversy; it's up to him. Out of the several zillion BLPs on Wikipedia, this is an educated guess about which one is causing the problem. As expected, the BLP is the top result for a search on his name.--♦IanMacM♦(talk to me)20:31, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hah! That's nothing! A guy down our chip-shop, last Thursday, was overhead saying he was considering voting Tory! (next year, probably...)
.... hmmm, "pathetic internet nerds who can't get laid and STD-infested sluts". Nice. I wonder what Hitler Club (UK) have to say about same sex inter-racial relationships!?
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