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December 27

December 27, 2023 (2023-12-27) (Wednesday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

RD: Ghali Umar Na'Abba

Article: Ghali Umar Na'Abba (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Channels TV, Peoples Gazette
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former Speaker, Nigerian lower chamber. Article needs some cleanup. – Ammarpad (talk) 11:36, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Rotimi Akeredolu

Article: Rotimi Akeredolu (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Hausa, The Cable
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Additional references, Channelstv, Premium times Gwanki (talk) 10:38, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Lee Sun-kyun

Article: Lee Sun-kyun (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters, The Guardian
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Sad story. Some citation issues but it seems that it's almost there. Onegreatjoke (talk) 05:27, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is an unsourced claim in the 2007-2012 section. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 06:20, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I added that CN; can't find any English-language sources to confirm that "Lee was appointed ambassador for the Health Insurance Review Agency in 2007, and won an award from the Korea Advertisers Association in 2008." Maybe there is something in Korean. Funcrunch (talk) 06:50, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Vasilis Karras

Article: Vasilis Karras (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Lifo
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Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Additional references if needed: Lifo, eKathimerini, Greek City Times or Greek Reporter. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 10:10, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

December 26

December 26, 2023 (2023-12-26) (Tuesday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Sports

RD: Lukas Enembe

Article: Lukas Enembe (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former Governor of Papua in Indonesia. Juxlos (talk) 07:12, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Plateau State massacres

Article: 2023 Plateau State massacres (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ More than 140 people are killed in a series of massacres across Plateau State, Nigeria, believed to be linked to the ongoing bandit conflict. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Nigeria, bandits kill about 140 people in Plateau State.
News source(s): ABC News Guardian (Nigeria) Daily Telegraph (UK)
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Article updated
  • Major escalation in Nigerian bandit conflict. Significant as farmer-herder and Christian-Muslim conflicts intensify in the Sahel. Very high death toll. Sheila1988 (talk) 22:11, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Was about to nominate this. Conditional support due to quality. — Knightoftheswords 22:14, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support due to high quality Lukt64 (talk) 00:58, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conditional support when it's no longer a stub. That is what is meant by quality, Lukt64. We don't post stubs. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:29, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wait until quality improves --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 06:16, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support on significance, Oppose on quality currently. AryKun (talk) 07:21, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

December 25

December 25, 2023 (2023-12-25) (Monday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Law and crime

RD: Bill Granger

Article: Bill Granger (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-27/chef-bill-granger-dies-aged-54-on-christmas-day/103266588
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Australian chef and food writer who operated restaurants across the world, including in Australia, Japan, South Korea and the UK

(Closed) Christmas in Ukraine

Consensus to post will not develop. (non-admin closure) Polyamorph (talk) 06:57, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Christmas in Ukraine (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Christmas in Ukraine (pictured) is officially celebrated on 25 December for the first time in over a century. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ For the first time in over a century, Christmas in Ukraine is officially celebrated on 25 December, where before it had been celebrated on 7 January.
Alternative blurb II: ​ For the first time in over a century, Christmas in Ukraine is officially celebrated on 25 December, following decision of the local Orthodox Church and legislation of the Verkhovna Rada.
News source(s): BBC, Al Jazeera, NYT, France 24, Reuters, NPR, Hindustan Times
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Article updated
The other main page sections are running Christmas-themed topics today and so it would be good for ITN to run a Christmas story too. This one seems reasonably historic. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:43, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose This should have been nominated and posted when the reform was approved: either on 24 May 2023, when the Orthodox Church of Ukraine officially approved the date or on 28 July 2023 when President Zelensky signed the law confirming the new date, according to our article. The current blurb sounds as if the decision came out of the blue. Brandmeistertalk 10:20, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • It would have been too crystal back then. And it's in the news now because it's happening now. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:34, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've added an altblurb to make the context of the date change more clear. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 11:03, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on notability, and the article is of reasonable quality. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 10:58, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support on notability. But there are two Orthodox Churches in Ukraine, so I would probably omit the "following decision of the local Orthodox Church" part. Kirill C1 (talk) 13:47, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose while other sections can tailor content to holidays, news happens when it happens, and we should not just promote stories that we would not normally promote. Here, just the move of the date of the celebration is not sufficient to post. --Masem (t) 14:17, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    It's in the news, see [2] and other outlets. Kirill C1 (talk) 15:01, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Just being reported in the news is not sufficient for posting. The simple change of a holiday date would not be posted as ITN. Masem (t) 16:52, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Per above, in a typically slow news cycle, this seems like a notable event that is in the news and the article is of sufficient quality. Would be nice if we could post this today. Kcmastrpc (talk) 14:46, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support ALT2 per above. TwistedAxe [contact] 15:19, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on notability not a good idea to get a celebration of a holiday on ITN. Any country can have their first celebration at of a holiday. --Jiaminglimjm (talk) 16:26, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    But it's Christmas! Kirill C1 (talk) 21:11, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support - In The News, relevant to public interest surrounding Christmas. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 18:39, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom, this is historic and timely. -- Tavix (talk) 18:45, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as old news It should've been nominated in July, when parliament approved the new law and Zelensky signed it.[1] Now it's more suitable for DYK. Johndavies837 (talk) 18:49, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
But there are always arguments "We should wait till it actually happens". Kirill C1 (talk) 21:12, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as non-notable. Interesting, but not notable for ITN. Natg 19 (talk) 19:39, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Very interesting. Article looks good and the fact that it's celebrated in the country for the first time in over a century makes it very notable. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 23:15, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per above. Davey2116 (talk) 23:41, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • oppose - covered by ongoing, the split in the churches being a part of the war, and beyond that trivial nableezy - 23:46, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Not that significant in the grand scheme of things, and also as noted above the change itself happened much earlier in the year.  — Amakuru (talk) 00:47, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Oppose It's getting some coverage but the quality of that coverage is not great. This is just part of a fairly complicated subject involving a major schism within Orthodox Christianity in Ukraine. There are at least three major groups claiming to be the legitimate Orthodox jurisdiction in Ukraine, two of which are recognized by differing autocephalous churches. And this doesn't count all of the splinter groups including so called True Orthodox etc or the UGCC which is aligned with the Roman Catholic Church. At least one of the main churches and all of the smaller Old Calendarist jurisdictions still use the Julian Calendar. To say that the religious situation in Ukraine is byzantine (pun intended) would be an understatement, and almost none of the mainstream press media sources have more than a slight clue. I'm Orthodox and routinely reach for the Tylenol whenever the subject of the church in Ukraine comes up. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:06, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose All blurbs are misleading as they fail to illustrate the main point. Ukrainian authorities didn’t explicitly change the date of Christmas to 25 December but just made 7 January to be a regular working day (note that Ukraine is a secular state, so the authorities cannot interfere in the freedom of religion). That’s it. Some Ukrainians celebrate it on 25 December, while others do it on 7 January. It’s a matter of personal choice.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 06:40, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • It seems they did. The law signed by Zelensky did move the Christmas date from 7 January to 25 December, while the day before the Ukrainian Orthodox Church adopted the revised Julian calendar that currently coincides with the Gregorian calendar (meaning Christmas would be observed on 25 December). Brandmeistertalk 11:36, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      • That's exactly what I said. They shifted the non-working day from 7 January to 25 December. This means that religious people who observe Christmas on 7 January now need to take a day off from work to celebrate. Other than that, there's absolutely no significance in this change. I agree that Ukrainian Orthodox Church's decision to adopt the revised Julian calendar was much more notable, but it happened five months ago and it's nowhere mentioned in the suggested blurbs.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 12:49, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is significant change, it signals cultural and religious shift towards West. Kirill C1 (talk) 13:58, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I disagree. I come from a European NATO member state where the local Orthodox church, which is neither the Russian nor the Serbian, uses the Julian calendar and we observe Christmas on 7 January. I don’t see how that makes me less pro-Western or more pro-Russian. Our authorities have resolved this in a very elegant way—25 December is a non-working day for those adhering to a church that uses either the Gregorian or the revised Julian calendar, and 7 January is a non-working day for those adhering to a church that uses the Julian calendar.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 17:12, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Interesting but a footnote in the ongoing war (from which this derives its significance). Gotitbro (talk) 15:05, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose it's a PR stunt that has no long lasting significance compared to most other things in the war. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:45, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose What the other main page sections do has nothing to do with newsworthiness. I just don't see the significance of this story; government holidays get moved all the time, and if there's major religious significance to this it's quite unclear what that might be. Vanamonde (Talk) 18:52, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I cannot imagine that this would have even been nominated if it had occured in any other eastern European nation. This nom is here because of the war. But it doesn't mention the war. It's a bit dishonest, and not hugely significant for the country. HiLo48 (talk) 21:53, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per above Shadow4dark (talk) 04:35, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per HiLo48 Elisecars727 (talk) 06:41, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

(Posted) RD: Henry Sandon

Article: Henry Sandon (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Daily Telegraph, The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Ceramics historian. Seems basically complete. Blythwood (talk) 20:06, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

December 24

December 24, 2023 (2023-12-24) (Sunday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Sports

RD: Kamar de los Reyes

Article: Kamar de los Reyes (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): People
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

240D:1A:4B5:2800:209B:28DD:5A6D:5AED (talk) 07:27, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Ingrid Steeger

Article: Ingrid Steeger (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tagesschau
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

German actress and comedian. 240D:1A:4B5:2800:751B:E940:C692:8064 (talk) 18:49, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: David Libai

Article: David Libai (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/former-justice-minister-david-libai-dies-aged-89/
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Israeli Minister of Justice from 1992 to 1996. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 10:23, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

December 23

December 23, 2023 (2023-12-23) (Saturday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Science and technology

RD: Hugh Aynesworth

Article: Hugh Aynesworth (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

– Muboshgu (talk) 17:40, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Chem Pluto

Article: 2023 attack on the Chem Pluto (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A chemical tanker is hit by an Iranian drone in the Indian Ocean. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, DW, FleetMon, Hindustani Times, Reuters, Times of India
Credits:

Article updated

This is breaking news and so needs expansion but seems to be a significant escalation in the recent shipping attacks in that the target was a ship off the coast of India, sailing to a port in India and crewed by Indians. Many other nations seem to be involved. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:36, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wait until article quality improves, but support on notability. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:00, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sounds important, but unclear how important this actually is or if there will be any long term consequences. Don't see much news reporting about this attack besides "the tanker was hit by a drone". Haven't seen much in terms of reactions. Natg 19 (talk) 09:40, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Seventh Iranian attack on commercial shipping since 2021" per the DW source, with no casualties and little other indication that this one is more significant than the others. Our article (currently miles away from WP:ITNUPDATE) certainly doesn't reflect any. —Cryptic 10:32, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Iran is denying that they made the attack and the Indian Navy is investigating. So, we must await developments but it's already significant in that the shipping route from the Persian Gulf to India is now threatened and there's no alternative route, like there is for the Red Sea. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:48, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • When nobody gets hurt and very little is damaged, there's no need for an alternative route. Shipping folk know the dangers, by land, air or sea. All the other however many thousand ships need is a little luck and basic technical proficiency. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:44, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - A Liberian flagged, Japanese owned, Dutch operated tanker, with Indian and Vietnamese personnel, that was hit by an Iranian drone, with the Indian navy responding, and being considered related to a civil war in Yemen, itself related to a war in Israel and Palestine. Quite a mix, certainly a large international impact. 102.38.63.199 (talk) 18:35, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait We need a clearer idea of exactly who did what, to whom, how bad it was, and whether it is likely to be seen as more serious than previous incidents in the area. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:56, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Oppose Incident is unlikely to have any lasting significance that makes it stand out from all the others. Likely fails WP:EVENT. I have tagged the article. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:06, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait Unless this has any lasting impact and consequences, it wouldn't make sense to post it. TwistedAxe [contact] 15:21, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ongoing for the recent shipping attacks in general. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 01:25, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I waited to !vote to give some time for expansion, but no effort has been made to improve beyond a stub. Polyamorph (talk) 09:58, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Doesn't seem notable enough, and the article is quite small. Unknown-Tree🌲? (talk) 06:57, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Polymorph, plus the incident seems to have no more lasting significance than any of the other recent attacks on shipping. The Kip 08:04, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: M. M. Rajendran

Article: M. M. Rajendran (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former Odisha Governor.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 06:38, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Much of the article is unsourced. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 05:34, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Bonda Mani

Article: Bonda Mani (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): India Today
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Renowned actor and comedian who had appeared in over 270 films. Abishe (talk) 06:18, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Torben Ulrich

Article: Torben Ulrich (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Rolling Stone
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Father of Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich. 240D:1A:4B5:2800:41C:5579:CBAA:C73C (talk) 10:01, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak Support Article has enough inline citations, although I am a bit concerned that one of the sources is tagged as being potentially unreliable. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 03:28, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Tennis results aren't sourced (I'd be tempted to remove them tbh). Black Kite (talk) 10:13, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Ian Punnett

Article: Ian Punnett (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): WGN Radio The Star Tribune
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Weekend host of Coast to Coast AM. 173.71.151.40 (talk) 06:33, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

December 22

December 22, 2023 (2023-12-22) (Friday)

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RD: Gurdev Singh Gill (physician)

Article: Gurdev Singh Gill (physician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC.ca CTV News
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Canadian physician. Death announced in WP:RS on this date. Article has shaped into a decent start-class biography. Ktin (talk) 23:56, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Imroz

Article: Imroz (painter) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/chandigarh-news/amrita-pritam-s-partner-imroz-passes-away-at-97-101703239621054.html
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Indian visual artist and poet. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 10:10, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support Well referenced article. TwistedAxe [contact] 15:23, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Most of the main paragraph isn't well sourced, and it's really poorly written to the point of incomprehensibility. Black Kite (talk) 10:10, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Garly Sojo

Article: Garly Sojo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.fiba.basketball/news/venezuela-s-young-star-garly-sojo-passes-away
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Venezuelan professional basketball player. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 10:10, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Ryan Minor

Article: Ryan Minor (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

– Muboshgu (talk) 01:11, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support on quality, neutral on notability. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:22, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There is no assessment of notability, if he has an article he qualifies for RD. Stephen 01:52, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I see what you mean. 173.71.151.40 (talk) 06:27, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Ruth Seymour

Article: Ruth Seymour (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [5]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

December 21

December 21, 2023 (2023-12-21) (Thursday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

International relations

Law and crime

Science and technology

  • A Stanford Internet Observatory investigation finds more then 3,200 images of suspected child sexual abuse in the AI database LAION, an index used to train AI image-makers such as Stable Diffusion. In response, LAION temporarily removes its datasets. (AP)
  • The International Trade Commission rejects Apple’s appeal to a order blocking the company from using technology underlying the Blood oxygen measurement feature on its smart watches. In response, Apple suspends sales of the products. (AP)

Sports

RD/Blurb: Robert Solow

Proposed image
Article: Robert Solow (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  American economist and Nobel laureate Robert Solow dies at the age of 99. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ American economist and Nobel laureate Robert Solow, who developed the exogenous growth model, dies at the age of 99.
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nobel prize winning economist. Thriley (talk) 06:14, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dang it I was going to nominate! I've fixed a Citation Needed and removed an unnecessary section. QueensanditsCrazy (talk) 14:52, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support - nobel economist, incredibly important to economics and the study of growth and development. Article looks alright to me. QueensanditsCrazy (talk) 17:11, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Needs ref improvement still currently. - Indefensible (talk) 19:57, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose There’s three paragraphs with no source. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 20:23, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for blurb Even then, the article is still unsourced in certain places, and depending on verifiability for those they may need a bit of rewriting. --Mr. Lechkar (talk) 15:18, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • The update has half a sentence of relevant prose that's not redundant to the proposed blurb, which is well short of what WP:ITNUPDATE requires, and it seems very unlikely to grow significantly. (Also, the nomination and above support predate the blurb suggestion.) —Cryptic 18:52, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, the proposed photo is unreasonably red. It doesn't just happen to be the way he looked, I Googled him. It's a borderline unrealistic depiction. And yes, I know it's probably the best we're free to use. But sometimes our best isn't good enough, eh? InedibleHulk (talk) 19:48, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Procedural oppose on RD and absolute oppose on blurb, he's definitely not blurb worthy. Personally I would eliminate death blurbs entirely. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 22:22, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Oppose Blurb he's not notable enough to have a blurb but weak support RD a cursory glance at the article tells me it looks alright, but the update left a bit to be desired. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 23:01, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality, but also oppose blurb on importance; I know it's not good form to say "I've never heard of him", but I studied economics as part of my degree ... and I've never heard of him. The article doesn't help either; it suggests that he was important but not field-changing. The sentence "He was ranked 23rd among economists on RePEc in terms of the strength of economists who have studied under him" doesn't suggest it either. Black Kite (talk) 23:07, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb, support RD Seems sufficient enough for RD but there's no way he deserves a blurb. Kanyewestlover999 (talk) 03:03, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support blurb on principle, weak oppose on quality I don't know much about economics but his accomplishments seem impressive and he does seem to be recognized as one of the great economists in world history. A few uncited paragraphs, though, so this article isn't ready to be posted. NorthernFalcon (talk) 03:47, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb Being a Nobel laureate does not make one blurb worthy. Not ready for RD either, more citations needed. Pawnkingthree (talk) 12:47, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose blurb as usual. This death is not a significant event. JM (talk) 23:57, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb. Economic model was named after him. Four of his students received Nobel Prizes for their own career. Sounds a worthy person for the blurb. Kirill C1 (talk) 13:52, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Cristina Pacheco

Article: Cristina Pacheco (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): El Universal
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Mexican journalist, writer and television personality. ~ Tails Wx 19:46, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Cari Beauchamp

Article: Cari Beauchamp (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Hollywood historian and author. 240D:1A:4B5:2800:F197:564C:F666:3B20 (talk) 18:43, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak oppose It's close but there’s still some unsourced info. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 20:24, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support quality is there and a couple unsourced sentences for uncontentious info isn't a barrier to posting, particularly when it comes to the lower-profile RD section. Ed [talk] [OMT] 02:29, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    a couple unsourced sentences for contentious info isn't a barrier to posting

    So we can post articles with contentious information without a source? WP:ITNQUALITY says Articles should be well referenced; one or two "citation needed" tags may not hold up an article, but any contentious statements must have a source [emphasis added] Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 08:58, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @MonarchOfTerror: My bad, I typo'd. I meant to write uncontentious info, of course. I've corrected that above. Ed [talk] [OMT] 20:59, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    That makes more sense. Personally I consider some of the unsourced information contentious, but I can see why someone else wouldn't consider it contentious (hence why I weak opposed instead of a normal oppose). Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 21:06, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Norma Barzman

Article: Norma Barzman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Blacklisted Hollywood screenwriter. 240D:1A:4B5:2800:F197:564C:F666:3B20 (talk) 18:33, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose The article is very short and the filmography needs sources (at the very least the documentary section, the other works are in the prose). Also the filmography needs to be ordered chronologically per MOS:LOW but that’s a quick fix and minor style issue. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 20:20, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Jim Ladd

Article: Jim Ladd (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Billboard, People, Los Angeles Times
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Los Angeles radio DJ. 240D:1A:4B5:2800:F197:564C:F666:3B20 (talk) 18:33, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Info: Its also worth noting he hosted Innerview, which was on many radio stations, and did compete with other radio shows of the 70s and 80s, like The Robert W. Morgan Special Of The Week and others like it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by User:TheCorriynial (talk • contribs) 20:51, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Prague shooting

Article: 2023 Prague shooting (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A mass shooting in Prague, Czech Republic, leaves 16 people dead. (Post)
News source(s): BBC Reuters The Guardian
Credits:

Major shooting in a country that is otherwise relatively peaceful, though as the event is still very recent, there isn't a lot of info as of yet. - LynxesDesmond 🐈 (talk) 17:08, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Update According to The Guardian, the death count has been updated to at least 15, and the shooter was a student of Charles University. LynxesDesmond 🐈 (talk) 17:14, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Tragic event. TwistedAxe [contact] 17:38, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait for more details to come so that the article can reasonable explain what happened, but generally support, I would knclude thec30-some injuries in this as well as to show this was truly as "mass" shooting. --Masem (t) 17:43, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Was planning to nominate this myself. But article needs more details as it is still stub-level. Natg 19 (talk) 18:10, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above JM (talk) 18:23, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Rare and tragic event. Celjski Grad (talk) 18:41, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - a death toll of 16 makes this worthy of ITN. Article sourcing looks good. PhilKnight (talk) 19:00, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as it’s a rare and tragic event with tons of media coverage.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 19:50, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Sufficiently expanded to post now. -- Pawnkingthree (talk) 19:52, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support Article is still in the early stages. Preferably wait a few more hours to let the article stabilise a bit. Kiwiz1338 (talk) 20:08, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per all above. Kanyewestlover999 (talk) 20:15, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support As others mentioned a tragic event. However, the article should receive more information as time goes on. Rager7 (talk) 20:17, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per what others have mentioned, as this is indeed tragic. Article imo may still need a bit of expansion or copy editing. Mr. Lechkar (talk) 20:33, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Article looks good for something that's recent news. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:46, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, although I think we should wait at least 24 hours for the situation to stabalize and details to emerge. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 21:06, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:12, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Posted with 16 casualties, but as per the article, 15 people have died, including the shooter, not 16. LucarioJapans (talk) 21:32, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    The count of 16 includes the perpetrator's father who was killed in their home earlier in the day. I agree it's a bit misleading especially since that part wasn't in Prague. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 00:51, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I've dropped the number to 15. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:02, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    This morning they have corrected the death toll from the university to 13 + the perpetrator,[6] so I have updated the blurb again. The count of 15 now includes the gunman's father which seems to have been added back following a discussion on WP:ERRORS earlier today. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 10:05, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Operation Prosperity Guardian

Article: Operation Prosperity Guardian (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A U.S-led multinational coalition is formed in response to a series of attacks by the Yemeni Houthi movement on shipping in the Red Sea. (Post)
News source(s): The Indian Express - Fox News - Reuters - The Guardian - CNBC
Credits:

Nominator's comments: In response to Houthi attacks in the Red Sea, the U.S various other nations have formed a coalition reminiscent of Operation Ocean Shield. This is an intriguing story that's getting a lot of coverage that will definitely benefit our readers. — Knightoftheswords 02:23, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support per nom. You beat me to it by four minutes...just deleted my own nomination.
An international military coalition being formed to act on this growing problem that has been in the news a lot recently, especially with traffic in the Red Sea and the Suez Canal plummeting as a result. Not long, but not really a stub anymore, and well-cited. JM (talk) 02:28, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom, surprised this wasn't nominated 2 days ago qw3rty 03:26, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. The US, France, and the UK have been involved in the Yemeni Civil War for some time now. If anything, we should just put the war or it's current phase in Ongoing. DarkSide830 (talk) 03:30, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Too Soon?
    I dont really know if this has a major impact, because those nations dont normally do a good job at keeping promises..... But, if they begin action, absolutely Support Lukt64 (talk) 03:38, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support | Obviously significant, major int'l coverage This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 04:44, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait The article currently describes nations, their ships and roughly where some of these ships are going. It even specifies who's in charge, to an extent. But as to what they're going to do, we learn nothing. InedibleHulk (talk) 07:12, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on notability, but wait until it is known what this coalition will achieve. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:21, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose This specific operation is a reaction to Houthi involvement in the 2023 Israel–Hamas war which includes shipping attacks which have been taking place for weeks. The details of the operation are still evolving as some nations are temporising or keeping their involvement quiet. It seems to be spillover from existing conflicts including 2023 Israel–Hamas war, Houthi–Saudi Arabian conflict, Houthi insurgency and the Shia–Sunni divide which has been going on for centuries. See List of modern conflicts in the Middle East and note that many of them haven't ended. As an encyclopedia, we should be giving the big picture not just a single limited and uncertain operation. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:27, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    This specific operation is "in the news". The encyclopedia IS giving the big picture with all those articles you've just linked to. In The News gives the part that is "in the news". JM (talk) 18:25, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @JM2023: Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents is that way. BangJan1999 19:08, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    No need to direct someone to ANI just for a disagreement over a blurb. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 11:16, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    That's not why I directed them to ANI. This is why. Now try convincing me that there isn't a problem. BangJan1999 15:03, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Most of these votes I would disagree with, and a lot of them don't seem to be in the spirit of ITN, but does that really rise to ANI levels? Do you have specific diffs in mind? ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 21:23, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Well for starters, the user in question got topic banned from all deletion related activities a couple years ago for similar behaviour. ITN should not be any different in that regard. BangJan1999 21:34, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Yep, that makes a lot of sense and matches his behavior here. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 21:47, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support cautiously, once there is a bit more information about what this is all about (they really need to come up with better operation names, though. Prosperity Guardian? Enduring Freedom? Whatever happened to Operation Hats?). Duly signed, ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 14:22, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait (leaning Support) This has the potential to become a flash point so it doesn't hurt to wait 24-48h for any major developments to surface. Kcmastrpc (talk) 14:54, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support A military alliance of powerful countries against attacks concerning maritime commerce that are all over news should be moved ASAP Harvici 16:51, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose until the coalition achieves something concrete. The fact it was formed sounds promising, but there’s still nothing out of it.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 17:53, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: The operation is currently making rounds in the news. It's a current event as of the moment. Rager7 (talk) 18:04, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I'm unconvinced that a load of boats floating around waiting for something to happen is ITN-worthy. I suspect this is more likely to be posted when they actually perform an operation. Black Kite (talk) 19:12, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Theoretically support, but oppose for now The article needs to provide more context about the Houthi attacks that led to this operation. Also, the sentence in the “Reactions” section needs copy editing. Support The article looks good enough now & it’s easily important enough for ITN. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 21:32, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I didn't see much wrong with it. Bit more common to have "nothing to fear" from a looming vague armada than "about" it, and an acronym is only useful if used afterward (AAIOUIUA). Still though, yeah, more context is needed. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:30, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    The problems I saw earlier have been fixed. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 12:18, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - per above PrecariousWorlds (talk) 21:54, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - This is a significant geopolitical development in the Middle East. GWA88 (talk) 00:54, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment at least 10 more countries have joined the coalition, bringing the total to more than 20, per the Current Events above. JM (talk) 01:03, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support meets all the bullet points outlined at WP:ITNSIGNIF. Article has potential for expansion, which isn't a barrier for ITN as it covers the topic and is well cited. Ed [talk] [OMT] 03:41, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose at the present time. Preparing for a potential attack is not what would go into ITN, it would be if the attack (either direction) actually occurs. So if a full-scale attack actually happens, then yes, this would make sense, but right now, it is a defense move being used to try to secure stability that was weakened by the actions in Gaza. --Masem (t) 05:50, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • There are attacks, and they are happening? Ed [talk] [OMT] 08:13, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      • Those are the background attacks. We didn't (really) consider posting them then and we aren't supposed to now. What (I think) Masem is waiting for lately is a full-scale "defensive" counterattack against the Houthis. Maybe it will coincide with a smaller-scale attack by them, as Gaza escalated, and we can post the tit and the tat together again. But for now, this new "side" of the hypothetical conflict is only retaliating with posture and suggestion. That's not counting any secret operations underway in Yemen right now inflicting untold numbers of casualties and damage that simply aren't "In The News", of course. And I'm not saying a lot of what goes on in that Gulf is intentionally kept silent, either, just that we can only blurb what the reliable sources want us to see and some of us aren't seeing enough destroyers destroying, just the usual repetitive rinkydink rockets. InedibleHulk (talk) 18:38, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ongoing would be better-suited for a long-term operation, especially given its connection as spillover of the 2023 Israel–Hamas war. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 11:17, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Don't ongoings usually come from blurbs that roll off despite still being ITN-worthy? JM (talk) 23:59, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

December 20

December 20, 2023 (2023-12-20) (Wednesday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

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