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February 12

February 12, 2024 (2024-02-12) (Monday)

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Super Bowl LVIII

Article: Super Bowl LVIII (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Kansas City Chiefs win Super Bowl LVIII, defeating the San Francisco 49ers by a score of 25-22. (Post)
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The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

— Red-tailed hawk (nest) 03:49, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Not Ready Somewhat surprised by the significant gaps in referencing. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:58, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not Ready a lot of uncited material (to be expected, it just ended) and a lot of unfilled boxes (to be expected). TomMasterRealTALK 04:02, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 11

February 11, 2024 (2024-02-11) (Sunday)

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African Cup of Nations

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Article: 2023 Africa Cup of Nations (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: No blurb specified (Post)
News source(s): [1]
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The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Heatrave (talk) 23:09, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose - The ideal target article (2023 Africa Cup of Nations final) is missing a prose summary of the match along with most of the necessary content. SounderBruce 23:31, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment We usually do not include any specific player unless they are noted as MVP or the like. A better blurb is otherwise needed. --Masem (t) 01:54, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Those we can include a key player as the item's picture should we post this. But again, we should be asking who the MVP is and use that person first and foremost. --Masem (t) 02:02, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Ready) RD: Kelvin Kiptum

Article: Kelvin Kiptum (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Kelvin Kiptum, holder of the marathon world record, dies at 24 in a car crash along with his coach. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Marathon world record holder Kelvin Kiptum dies in a car crash at the age of 24.
News source(s): 1, 2
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

The current world-record marathon holder. — xaosflux Talk 22:52, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Fixed a few typos, not sure about the choice of putting the death along with the "early life" section, and maybe something could be done for the tables at the end. Nonetheless, a pretty well-referenced article, should be good to post. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 23:02, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support massive loss for the sport; would even support blurbing, but that will probably be a minority view. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:02, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - referenced. Updated.--BabbaQ (talk) 01:24, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD now- article is in good enough shape. I very rarely do this for a death, but with some expansion, I'd support a blurb- this is a current holder of (probably) one of the two biggest records in athletics, just reaching the prime of his career, and his death is getting lots of mainstream media coverage. -- Kicking222 (talk) 01:31, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I support a blurb as well if such a discussion will be held. Clearly a top of the field athlete.BabbaQ (talk) 01:46, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb too. He was just on ITN for winning the record. --Jiaminglimjm (talk) 01:49, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: I've also added a blurb, any improvements welcome. Aaron Liu (talk) 01:53, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb. A tragic death-as-the-story case, and someone who was in the news for breaking the record so recently.  — Amakuru (talk) 01:56, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb "Unusual death" particularly as he was still an active runner, absolutely fits here. Article seems in good shape, though I would hope some short but reasonable reactions to his death (like a sentence or two at most) could be added. --Masem (t) 02:04, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb particularly due to him being "the only person in history to run the marathon under two hours and one minute in a record-eligible race", as stated in the article. However, I am not sure if this would really qualify for an unusual death. For example, this source says that there were over 4,000 deaths related to road accidents in Kenya in 2022. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 02:49, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per above. Certainly one of the more tragic deaths in recent memory. NW1223<Howl at me•My hunts> 02:49, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
breaking the course record in london
breaking the course record in london
breaking the world record in chicago
breaking the world record in chicago
  • support blurb. he was just getting started. after he broke the world record in only his third marathon, commentators were saying that he had still quite a bit of energy left in him. it seemed like breaking the two-hour mark was well within reach.
    note that we have a picture of him breaking the world record in chicago, though it may need to be cropped if it is to be used on the main page. we also have a photo of him breaking the course record in london earlier that year, which we used when we posted the breaking of the world record to itn in october. (full disclosure: in case it is seen as a conflict of interest, i should mention that i was the editor who created the "2023 Chicago Marathon" article.) dying (talk) 02:59, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb - unexpected death for someone obviously at the top of his field so recently. Proposed altblurb. starship.paint (RUN) 03:24, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Ready) 2024 Finnish presidential election

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Article: 2024 Finnish presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Alexander Stubb wins the 2024 Finnish presidential election. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Alexander Stubb is elected President of Finland
News source(s): Reuters, AP, Yle
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JIP | Talk 20:04, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note that the position of power in Finland is the PM, so this is not ITNR (it was properly marked as not ITNR, just making this comment in case the question comes up) --Masem (t) 20:10, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - update done. Which article will be the main article though.BabbaQ (talk) 21:34, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support added altblurb to address above concern This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 23:37, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support altblurb as per orbitalbuzzsaw. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:50, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support As per above, this is not ITN/R, and, as far as I can tell, this is the first nomination for the result of a presidential election in Finland. However, as stated in the article, this is the first election since Finland joined NATO, and, due to the Finnish president being the commander in chief, I believe that this is notable enough for a blurb. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 02:32, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 10

February 10, 2024 (2024-02-10) (Saturday)

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Article: Harold Mitchell (media buyer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-11/harold-mitchell-dead-at-81/103453500
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Article updated
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Australian businessman, media buyer, philanthropist and humanitarian. HiLo48 (talk) 03:50, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Henry Blackaby

Article: Henry Blackaby (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Religion News Service
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A bit stubby. However, I expect publications like Christianity Today and others to provide enough materials to de-stubify. Will probably need a bit of citation work as well, but right now, I'm working on Joel Belz. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 00:02, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I clicked on the first reference. I got a nice red "Deceptive site ahead" page. Support, I guess. 51.154.145.205 (talk) 13:35, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose The books section was sourced by goodreads, which I removed per WP:GOODREADS. As per above, the first reference was a potentially dangerous link, which I also removed. In short, the article needs some referencing work. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 14:47, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Herbert Wigwe

Article: Herbert Wigwe (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Bloomberg
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Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

The death of the Group Chairman of Access Holdings, his wife and son through a helicopter crash — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heatrave (talk • contribs) 20:35, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support - Fully referenced. Updated.--BabbaQ (talk) 01:52, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Pakistani elections

Article: 2024 Pakistani general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Despite the disqualification of the PTI and the jailing of its leader, Imran Khan, independent candidates supporting his party win the most seats in the 2024 Pakistani general election (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Independent candidates backed by the disqualified PTI and its jailed leader, Imran Khan, win the most seats in the 2024 Pakistani general election.
Alternative blurb III: ​ In Pakistan, the general election results in a hung parliament.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ In Pakistan, the general election results in a hung parliament with the Tehreek-e-Insaf-backed independent candidates leading.
News source(s): BBC, CNN, Reuters, Al Jazeera
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Most results are in and Imran Khan is claiming victory in the election but so is Nawaz Sharif. Formation of a government is likely to be complex and take time but we ought to move on from the previous Khan blurb now. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:01, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support altblurb Let's not overlook the fact that numerous foreign media outlets, including France 24, TIME, The Intercept, Economist have characterized the election was rigged by the military as they have done in the past, but despite that the election results have turned out completely differently. NYT went on to say the election results have humiliated the military rulers and has started a new political crises in the country. --Saqib (talk) 17:10, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Needs a more neutral header. In the body of the article it can explain why that party winning the most seats is unusual or unprecedented, but its not ITNs place to make that call. --Masem (t) 18:12, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Added altblurb as I think the "despite" in the original blurb is unnecessary. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 18:43, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support altblurb per above. The Kip 19:07, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - the article is incomprehensible to me. I've been looking at it for 5 minutes, and I simply don't know what's going on. I say that as someone with no previous understanding of how elections are done in Pakistan, and who hasn't read any news articles on the election results, other than the headlines. For example, in the header box, it notes that all 336 seats are up for election. But in the 2024 Pakistani general election#Provisional results by party section it lists total of only 258 seats (declared?) with 7 left to declare. In the info-box it shows Khan as the leader of a party called "PTI-Ind". However that isn't a party, and Khan isn't even running for a seat and thus is ineligible to be PM. The references are whacky - what are [1] and [2] doing as references - surely they are notes. The "Seats needed" in the box is just confusing - everyone needs 169 seats. And getting this number by subtracting the 2018 results doesn't work, as seats have changed since the previous election. Instead show "Seats won", "Seat change". There needs to be a full table of results, similar to the 2018 election. At this point, I'm not sure the result is even clear. Nfitz (talk) 19:38, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Nfitz: There're a total of 264 general seats, with the remaining reserved seats [Elections are not conducted for these reserved seats.] Presently, results have been announced for 256 out of the total 264 seats. As for Khan's leadership status, he has been designated as the leader due to his association with the PTI-backed independent candidates. More detailed information on this matter can be found in the section titled 2024_Pakistani_general_election#PTI_de_facto_ban_through_intra-party_election_verdict within the article. And how about we omit the numbers for now, since the legitimacy of many of these results is being contested by the PTI. --Saqib (talk) 21:04, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The seating is explained in the section 2024 Pakistani general election#Electoral system

The 336 members of the National Assembly consist of 266 general seats elected by first-past-the-post voting in single-member constituencies, 60 seats reserved for women elected by proportional representation based on the number of general seats won by each party in each province, and ten seats reserved for non-Muslims elected through proportional representation based on the number of overall general seats won by each party.

Andrew🐉(talk) 21:10, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks - I do think that one should be able to grasp this a lot quicker, and that the text be improved. Also, at this point the general percentages are done, so how are those seats being distributed ... and do independents even play into that. Ultimately, this is probably ITN. But the article needs work. Nfitz (talk) 00:59, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's quite a big and complicated topic and the article has been under development for six years. And so there's a lot to digest. Here's what we did last time. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:12, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think there may be a typo, User:Andrew Davidson in that link. Nfitz (talk) 18:23, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Nfitz: Link fixed. The previous election was marred by violence, whereas this one was tainted by daylight mass rigging. --Saqib (talk) 18:33, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Ultimately, this should probably be posted, once there's more clarity. Which seems to have taken over 4 days last time. Nfitz (talk) 19:10, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait until an actual outcome is known/a government is formed. Right now, the situation is unclear and posting that the PTI de facto candidates won the most seats doesn't mean much unless they actually then form a government, which is sounds like currently they won't. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:38, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 9

February 9, 2024 (2024-02-09) (Friday)

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RD: Damo Suzuki

Article: Damo Suzuki (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian, Pitchfork
Credits:

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Japanese rock singer known as a member of Can. 240D:1A:4B5:2800:5C1A:689:3A4D:64F1 (talk) 00:37, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support: Article looks to be of good quality, though the discography section could be shortened a bit. LynxesDesmond 🐈 (talk) 02:56, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - looks good to go. Sources and quality are checked.--BabbaQ (talk) 10:30, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for now - article is slight. Ceoil (talk) 10:30, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Slight? Explain.BabbaQ (talk) 10:31, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The lead was inadquent, and there was dodgy refs and major gaps in explaining his career. Is that clear enough BabbaQ? As an update, article is improving, nearing a Q/C pass for main page. Ceoil (talk) 13:02, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Article quality seems pretty good. Setarip (talk) 14:01, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support, well sourced. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:40, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support now. Ceoil (talk) 21:33, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Ready) RD: Ed Tarver

Article: Ed Tarver (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

– Muboshgu (talk) 16:55, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support not long but sufficient article. Sourced and ready.BabbaQ (talk) 22:38, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Robert Badinter

Article: Robert Badinter (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): French Government Le Figaro France 24 Libération
Credits:

Article updated
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French lawyer, statesman and government minister known for his ultimately successful campaign for the abolition of the death penalty in France. The article still needs work. —Brigade Piron (talk) 22:16, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not ready Still four citation needed tags and one failed verification, shouldn't be too hard to fix. While I wouldn't call the death blurb-worthy, he was certainly a defining figure of French politics, and a man of his stature deserves an article in good shape. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 00:59, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural oppose per above This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 05:03, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Article looks fine now. @Chaotic Enby, Orbitalbuzzsaw: I've fixed the issues brought up. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 02:13, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 8

February 8, 2024 (2024-02-08) (Thursday)

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2024 Haldwani violence

Article: 2024 Haldwani violence (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Uttrakhand, India, at least five people are killed and dozens more injured in religious clashes. (Post)
News source(s): BBC NYT AJ
Credits:

Article updated

Article looks good enough to get posted. | 2401:BA80:A30C:7BB8:5C5C:46F1:1EB:FF3F (talk) 05:21, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose good faith nomination on quality As I am not super involved in Indian events, I can't comment much on notability, but there are a bunch of yellow tags relating to tone which need to be dealt with first before we post the article. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 05:34, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose on Quality there are 3 tags when you open the page Setarip (talk) 12:47, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality, but support in principle. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 17:36, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) New prime minister of Georgia

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Article: Irakli Kobakhidze (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Irakli Kobakhidze (pictured) is elected Prime Minister of Georgia by the Parliament (Post)
News source(s): Associated Press
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The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

His article needs a bit of work. I'm on it. Work done. _-_Alsor (talk) 12:35, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support: However, as the nominator said, the article should be improved. Article has been improved. Prodrummer619 (talk) 19:39, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support change of head of government This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 04:32, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support a new administration change is always notable enough to post
Setarip (talk) 09:05, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose due to there still being 3 cn's. Support as the article now seems to be fully sourced. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 14:28, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for your work. _-_Alsor (talk) 17:06, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You're welcome, and thanks for your work as well. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 17:16, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article has been improved: content expanded and RS sourced. _-_Alsor (talk) 17:02, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Prodrummer619 can you please take a look at the article? Thanks _-_Alsor (talk) 17:07, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support It’s ITN/R & meets the quality standards. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 19:54, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Admins willing to post ITN: There seems to be a consensus to post. _-_Alsor (talk) 13:30, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted. I have tweaked the wording slightly though, so the hook focuses on his succeeding the predecessor rather than being "elected". That has caused confusion in the past, given that this wasn't a result of a national election and follows similar changes of leadership without a general election, such as Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 14:08, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Much better, for sure. Thanks! _-_Alsor (talk) 14:27, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 7

February 7, 2024 (2024-02-07) (Wednesday)

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(Posted) RD: Alfred Grosser

Article: Alfred Grosser (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): taz and others
Credits:

Article updated
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Legendary intellectual, Jewish family had to flee the Nazis from Frankfurt to Paris in 1933, but he was instrumental in improving the German-French relations after the war, in the treaty as well as books and teaching. He also believed that a Jew doesn't have to automatically support Israeli politics. The article had a few life details and a lot of controversy, and few references, and many of those lost. So updating took a while. More details welcome, - for me there's RL and Seiji Ozawa. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:23, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Ready) RD: Qristina Ribohn

Article: Qristina Ribohn (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3]
Credits:

Article updated
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Swedish reality television contestant, drug counselor, and politician. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 12:17, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support - Decent shape after updates. Looks good to go in my opinion.BabbaQ (talk) 22:32, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2024 Balochistan bombings

Article: 2024 Balochistan bombings (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 30 people are killed and more than 40 injured in two ISIS bombings targeting political campaign offices in Balochistan, Pakistan on the eve of the general elections. (Post)
News source(s): CNN, VOA, BBC, AP, Al Jazeera, Guardian,
Credits:

Ainty Painty (talk) 03:29, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support The article is well-sourced and the event is certainly notable --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 03:37, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support as per above Ion.want.uu (talk) 03:46, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support A bit short, but this meets the requirements; for now, I think this should be treated as an isolated incident until a concrete link to the elections is established. Also moved this to February 7 as the bombings happened on that day. Vida0007 (talk) 09:51, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The sources in the article seem unanimous in having the election as the context for this incident:
  1. "At least 30 dead in Balochistan explosions, day before Pakistan election". CNN
  2. "Bomb Blasts Kill 30 in Pakistan Ahead of Thursday's Elections". Voice of America
  3. "Pakistan election: Two deadly blasts in Balochistan day before vote". BBC News
  4. "At least 30 killed in two bombings at election offices in Pakistan". The Guardian
  5. "Bombings at Pakistani political offices kill at least 30 a day before parliamentary elections". Associated Press
  6. "Pakistan polls 2024: Blasts target candidates' offices, at least 30 killed on eve of election". The Times of India
and so on. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:54, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment shouldn't the article title be 2024 Pishin bombings? Abcmaxx (talk) 10:11, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There were also offices targeted in Killa Saifullah, which is quite far from Pishin apparently
    @Ainty Painty Could you change the blurb's "Pishin" to "Balochistan province"? Aaron Liu (talk) 12:33, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
     Done Ainty Painty (talk) 13:43, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support well-sourced and significant. Setarip (talk) 11:31, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Really wish more than half the article is actually about the event rather than the kudzo of non-action reactions from world leaders. --Masem (t) 13:14, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, the treatment is as a cookie-cutter disaster newsevent rather than it being properly integrated with an encyclopedic treatment of the Pakistan election, the Balochistan independence movement, ISIS-K fundamentalism and whatever else that this is part of. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:33, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I haven't looked at this story at all, but even I remember reading of non-lethal violence and increased policing throughout Pakistan as a result of the election. Yes, the bombing does deserve a standalone article outside the election one, but here definitely could have more background as to understand why this bombing could have happened. Masem (t) 13:44, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    See 2024_Pakistani_general_election#Security_concerns_and_violence which lists numerous lethal incidents including

    In Balochistan, grenades were thrown at two polling stations by unidentified individuals. At the same time, a soldier was killed in an attack by gunmen in Kot Azam, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. Five security personnel were killed in an attack in Kulachi, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, while a polling station in the same province was shelled by mortars. Two security officers were killed and nine wounded by a blast near a polling station in Lajja, Balochistan, while two people were injured following 14 "minor blasts" in Gwadar.

    So, with such a wave of violence associated with the election, we should provide a more comprehensive account rather than cherry-picking two particular incidents 100 miles apart. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:43, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Improve Article, then Support The event is notable enough, but the article only consists of two paragraphs actually about the event (excluding the reactions), so this should be expanded. Support As another paragraph has been added to the article. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 13:27, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Article seems well sourced and this is an event that's on the news. Lukt64 (talk) 14:54, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The blurb explains that this is related to the ongoing election in Pakistan and so is better than the current blurb about Imran Khan. But, it's not clear what the relationship is between ISIS and the BLA. Is one part of the other or what? Presenting this as an isolated incident doesn't seem adequate in giving the big picture. It's the election which is the main story. I'm opposing until we get a more comprehensive account. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:43, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Why would there need to be information on the relationship between IS and the BLA? The election is already mentioned in the blurb. Aaron Liu (talk) 15:49, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The BLA has been boycotting the election and seems responsible for numerous other acts of violence during the election. ISIS claims responsibility for these two blasts but what's it got to do with them? As no-one has been caught and tried then WP:PERP per applies. And as this is a contentious topic per WP:ARBIP, we should not be jumping to conclusions and acting like we have all the facts. There's a lot more to say about this election as the results are now coming but are disputed. We should wait for further developments and present a more comprehensive account of the whole thing. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:15, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Agree with Aaron Liu. We are reporting the facts in the blurb. I don't see any jumping to conclusions. Trying to "connect the dots" as you want to do, is original research. Natg 19 (talk) 18:07, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The blurb states definitely that these were ISIS bombings but this is not proven. And why should we give so much attention to these particular incidents when there are lots of others too? It gives the usual impression that ITN only cares about a high death toll. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:15, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ISIS being the only one to claim responsibility is proof enough for now.
    Give attention because of the high death count in an area where such death counts aren't routine. Aaron Liu (talk) 18:56, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You do understand you're basically asking us to do WP:OR here, yes? The Kip 19:05, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, what did you mean by WP:PERP per applies? That link leads to the notability guideline for perpetrators. Aaron Liu (talk) 20:01, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support I'd prefer a longer article, but it meets the bare minimum standards. The Kip 19:05, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Looks good to go. Overall ITN quality and relevance.BabbaQ (talk) 22:40, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Andrew. _-_Alsor (talk) 00:34, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    What?
    Could you explain how that wouldn't be OR? Why do we need that? Aaron Liu (talk) 01:07, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It's not about OR. Andrew is right when he talks about this not being a one-off. If we intend to blurb the parliamentary elections, that event can be posted in the same blurb. Pakistan is no stranger to terrorist attacks and we should demand more when they happen. _-_Alsor (talk) 05:10, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted Any improved wording re: BLA can be suggested and discussed further. —Bagumba (talk) 13:25, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Mojo Nixon

Article: Mojo Nixon (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4], [5], [6]
Credits:

Article updated
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American rockabilly singer best known for his novelty hit "Elvis Is Everywhere" and for hosting various radio shows on Sirius XM satellite radio. thrashbandicoot01 (talk) 8:16, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

  • Wait The article has multiple CN tags --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:28, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Discography and Filmography sections are unsourced. There are about ten {cn} tags in the prose. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 13:06, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Henry Fambrough

Article: Henry Fambrough (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Associated Press
Credits:

Article updated
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Last surviving original member of the American R&B group The Spinners. Funcrunch (talk) 07:06, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wait - Two CN tags that probably should be dealt with before posting. Otherwise good article. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (he/him | talk) 08:16, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Citations now located and added. Funcrunch (talk) 21:35, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The article has been fully sourced. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 00:43, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Sufficient. And good to go,--BabbaQ (talk) 22:43, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted—Bagumba (talk) 12:32, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: José Delbo

Article: José Delbo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Daily Cartoonist, CBR,
Credits:

Article updated
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Argentine cartoonist. The article is well referenced, including his passing. Having inserted him at the recent deaths of pt.wiki, I'm a bit shocked to see that the RD here still have two people that died in January. It's 7 February... Solon 26.125 13:52, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak support - Seems decently sourced. I'm not sure if we need any additional sourcing for the bibliography section, but if not, this should be good to go. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (he/him | talk) 13:59, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose due to an unsourced bibliography Support as the unsourced bibliography section has been removed. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 14:23, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @2G0o2De0l, would it be a problem if the bibliography section got removed? It seems to be difficult to source properly, and I'm not willing to go after individual references for each comic there. Solon 26.125 19:54, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Solon26125 I think that would be a good solution. I have done a bit of searching, and the only sources I can find that we could use are things like the Grand Comics Database, which are potentially unreliable. I don't think it makes sense to leave such a large amount of uncited information when there is no clear path to finding an RS for it. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 20:47, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @2G0o2De0l:  Done, section removed. Solon 26.125 21:11, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Article is of generally good quality --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 23:34, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted Stephen 23:07, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Cecilia Gentili

Article: Cecilia Gentili (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.them.us/story/cecilia-gentili-transgender-advocate-author-obituary
Credits:

Article updated
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Argentine LGBT & trans rights activist. New article, but seems fairly well sourced. ForsythiaJo (talk) 05:02, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 6

February 6, 2024 (2024-02-06) (Tuesday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

Politics and elections

RD: Seiji Ozawa

Article: Seiji Ozawa (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Associated Press Washington Post
Credits:

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Did a brief check of article, looks mostly alright but it might need a bit more citation work. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 19:00, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you for the nomination, - working on it but another one first. Any help with sourcing awards and such welcome. We'll have better obits. The article lacks music, imho. - I updated a lot, especially throwing out "refs" that don't work any more or are unreliable, but not enough to mark it "updated" (yet). Haven't seen the Washington Post, for example. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:08, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I might do that, but I also got myself into another RD that I'm trying to update that's basically a stub and I have a music competition that I'm participating in today. Will try doing some source work myself though. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 16:16, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Awards section now sourced. Article in acceptable condition. Grimes2 (talk) 14:34, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    thank you for doing that! added you to updaters, and Niggle1892 also helped --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:32, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    today's obit from The Guardian now in --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:15, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    and FAZ from 10 Feb --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:19, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Blurb: Sebastián Piñera

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Article: Sebastián Piñera (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Former president of Chile Sebastián Piñera (pictured) is killed in a helicopter crash at the age of 74 (Post)
News source(s): Emol BBC Mundo
Credits:

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Former Chilean president. I second Alsoriano97's comment, a blurb may be good. --Bedivere (talk) 19:18, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support although an article is needed for the crash. Jebiguess (talk) 19:52, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I can know only a Spanish news agency (Agencia EFE) is confirming Piñera's death. I would wait for other RS to do so. In any case, since it is a possible death in a helicopter crash and taking into account that Piñera governed in two terms, the last one ending less than two years ago, we could value a blurb. Also the article needs revision in some aspects. _-_Alsor (talk) 19:55, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
BBC Mundo confirms (quoting govt statement). The rest'll follow shortly, no doubt. Moscow Mule (talk) 20:10, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The government has confirmed Piñera's death Bedivere (talk) 20:12, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb I'm not too familiar with Chilean politics, but the death of a recent former head of state, especially in a helicopter crash, seems noteworthy to me. Of course, time is needed to get the article up to snuff, but I don't see any issues with notability. DNVIC (talk) 20:14, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I would support a blurb due to his importance and the manner of his death, but the article has some cn tags.--Kacamata! Dimmi!!! 20:21, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on notability While I'm squarely in the "maybe" opinion for former heads of state dying, the manner of his death definitely makes this a blurb-worthy event. ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 20:27, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb A recent president (which means more people will remember him) and unusual circumstances. Johndavies837 (talk) 20:29, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb Recent head of state, notable life (protests, constitutional crisis), unusual circumstances of death. The Kip 21:17, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb per the other comments. Unexpected cause of death. --NoonIcarus (talk) 21:31, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality (NPOV tag, as well as tense issues) but a blurb is reasonable here, more on the manner of death than his past. I don't think we would have posted his death as a blurb if it was natural. Masem (t) 21:35, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose blurb not a current head of state or head of government, even if he was president as recently as 2022. I don't think that the accidental manner of death warrants a blurb. I'm trying to think of whether or not I would support a blurb for Obama's or Trump's death if it was accidental like this, but to be honest I don't think I would for Obama, maybe for Trump since he's also running for President again; or if Stephen Harper died like this, but I don't think I would support a blurb for that either. JM (talk) 22:14, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The probability that Trump, Obama, Bill Clinton and even Jimmy Carter will be blurbed when they die, accidental or otherwise, is approximately 100%.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:33, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know. I'm just thinking about how I would vote. I've said on other RD blurb noms that I wouldn't vote to blurb Carter's death JM (talk) 22:34, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps a former head of state and government dying in a plane/helicopter/car crash is more common than we think. _-_Alsor (talk) 22:36, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You...do realize we blurb previous heads of state, right? Piñera should be no exception. qw3rty 22:34, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do we? Where's the guideline or consensus? Would we blurb the death of Taur Matan Ruak, former president of East Timor? JM (talk) 22:35, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. qw3rty 22:44, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Somehow I doubt that. I'm sick and studying so I don't have the energy or time to go through the archives but I think it's highly likely there are more than a few former heads of state who were not blurbed, out of the hundreds of countries which each have new heads of state every few years, of which probably hundreds have died since ITN started. JM (talk) 22:47, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We shouldn't. In fact we should not blurb Piñera's death if it had been in "normal or natural" circumstances. We cannot, and should not, turn ITN into a de facto obituary of former heads of state/governments. Get well soon, JM. _-_Alsor (talk) 23:35, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just saying "yes" without pointing to a guideline or consensus isn't an acceptable answer, as indeed, there is no guideline or consensus that supports your statement. Kicking222 (talk) 14:56, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We did blurb José Eduardo dos Santos when he died, I believe. The Kip 22:52, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb per all above. Notable former head of state. qw3rty 22:34, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Blurb, Oppose on Quality Article is not ready to go due to an NPOV tag. As for notability, I believe that, due to him having been the first democratically elected conservative president in Chile since 1958, and due to his major involvement in the 2019-2022 Chilean protests (both points being stated in the lead of the article), combined with his unusual nature of death, a blurb is warranted. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 22:37, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will also note that the President of Chile article itself may not be ready to go, having a number of completely unsourced sections. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 22:41, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb – the NPOV tag has been removed and no citation needed tags remain. –FlyingAce✈hello 01:08, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb - recent and relatively notable head of state. The relatively unusual circumstances surrounding his death also make this worth blurbing. estar8806 (talk) ★ 01:23, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb - unusual manner of death makes it notable This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 02:59, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: John Bruton

Article: John Bruton (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Irish Times Sky News
Credits:

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Former Irish Taoiseach (prime minister). Sheila1988 (talk) 12:10, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • State funeral The BBC has been reporting his state funeral in regular bulletins today and so I'm surprised that there's not been more pressure for a blurb. As the article will be getting more attention as a consequence, I've done some clean-up. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:05, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yemen's new PM

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Article: Ahmad Awad bin Mubarak (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Ahmad Awad bin Mubarak (pictured) is appointed as Yemen's new Prime Minister, replacing Maeen Abdulmalik Saeed who was Yemen’s premier since 2018 (Post)
News source(s): [7] [8] [9]
Credits:
  • Oppose – because we don't have any information about him between 2018 and 2024. The gaps here are too big to be helpful for our readers. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 12:43, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on notability, oppose on quality for now - per Mable. Massive gap in article between 2018 and 2024 that should be fixed first. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (he/him | talk) 12:57, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support on notability, oppose on quality per the two above comments Lukt64 (talk) 14:00, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm pretty sure this would be considered WP:ITN/R anyway. Significance isn't really a concern here. Will say that Prime Minister of Yemen can also use some work... ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 14:33, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    checkY changed to ITN/R JM (talk) 17:23, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It's not R; the president holds the executive power in Yemen. InedibleHulk (talk) 18:03, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - not ITN/R. Not notable enough. -- RockstoneSend me a message! 02:49, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on notability but hold until artcile improves This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 03:01, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on notability: the prime minister is not the head of state in Yemen. Less important, but while the Presidential Leadership Council is recognised internationally, it does not actually govern most of Yemen's population. Endwise (talk) 13:17, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose As per above, the prime minister does not hold the executive power in Yemen, meaning this is not ITN/R, and the event itself is not notable enough. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 21:00, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 5

February 5, 2024 (2024-02-05) (Monday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Politics and elections

RD: Dries van Agt

Article: Dries van Agt (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NL Times, AP: Former Dutch Prime Minister Dries van Agt and his wife die ‘hand in hand’ by euthanasia at age 93, Guardian: Duo euthanasia: former Dutch prime minister dies hand in hand with his wife
Credits:

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TiffanyAlThani (talk) 23:05, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose honorary degree, honours and awards, and politics sections all need citing, lead far too long. Multiple other sentences and claims in the article also uncited. Unusual subheading splits for a biography article too. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:32, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Jean Malaurie

Article: Jean Malaurie (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Le Monde
Credits:

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Thriley (talk) 21:55, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wait several paras are not cited. Harvici (talk) 09:15, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Michael Jayston

Article: Michael Jayston (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Independent, Radio Times, Pinkvilla
Credits:

Article updated
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British actor of very long experience and note. Challenger l (talk) 19:05, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak oppose - Sourcing seems a little sparse and citations are placed in kind of strange spots, plus there's a CN tag. Would support once these issues are fixed. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (he/him | talk) 14:03, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Toby Keith

Article: Toby Keith (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): KWTV, Associated Press, New York Times
Credits:

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Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 09:17, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose some sections aren't cited. Harvici (talk) 10:03, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The phrase "Three million spins" is not explained, and the reference provided is a dead link. And that's just from the first paragraph. Chrisclear (talk) 11:10, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
support! Very well known artist. More notable than most people in recent deaths lately 2600:6C5E:147F:858F:EC90:269B:E0C6:4127 (talk) 13:29, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The RD line only cares that the person was notable, not how notable they were compared to others that were also notable. Its not a popularity/fame vote. Masem (t) 13:33, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support on Notability — It is very clear Toby Keith was notable. Article isn’t in the best of shape at the moment, hence the wait. Actual “oppose” !votes make no sense, as an oppose is different than a wait and seems to indicate a true “no” to posting. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 14:25, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
!vote changed to full support. Article is in decent shape now. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 16:38, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: At least four entire paragraphs uncited Aaron Liu (talk) 17:15, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One of these paragraphs is a possible copyvio. Aaron Liu (talk) 19:22, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I’ve just discovered that even the first paragraph is a likely copyvio. Definitely in no state of posting. Aaron Liu (talk) 19:35, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The irony of saying "oppose !votes make no sense" while starting with "Support on Notability" when RD is not concerned with notability is palpable. Kicking222 (talk) 15:08, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Waits are essentially opposes. Aaron Liu (talk) 15:41, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment two {cn} tags remain, both in the "Early life and education" section. Otherwise, this article is good to go. Also moved this to February 5 as Keith died on that day. Vida0007 (talk) 17:45, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The first paragraph of the musical career section and most of the Acting career section are also unreferenced Aaron Liu (talk) 18:07, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, the 2nd paragraph of the “Political beliefs” section is mostly uncited. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 19:30, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose There are uncited statements scattered across the article, and I'm unconvinced that the statements in the lead paragraph are sourced elsewhere. Black Kite (talk) 19:35, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose due to a poorly sourced tours section, early life and education section, and various other unsourced claims. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 22:49, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Aydoh8 (talk) 00:03, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose - No chance on this getting onto the main page as long as we have an ongoing copyvio investigation on a significantly large section of the article. Duly signed, ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 13:13, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It’s not that large (two paragraphs), though revision deletions are certainly needed. Aaron Liu (talk) 13:46, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Charles III diagnosed with cancer

Re-closing. It's quite obvious through the snow that this won't be posted. 331dot (talk) 20:40, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Charles III (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ King Charles III is diagnosed with a form of cancer. (Post)
News source(s): BBC news
Credits:
It is not often a ruling leader is diagnosed with such a condition. This is my first ever nomination to ITN, so please go easy on me. Urbanracer34 (talk) 19:06, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support it is in the news and article is in good shape. Worth highlighting. 2A02:908:676:E640:1529:50D8:AC9D:7F61 (talk) 19:09, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Even as one of his subjects here in the UK, I don't think this passes the bar. We've been given so little information that it could be very minor (or indeed, not). Black Kite (talk) 19:10, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Good faith nomination, but ITN does not typically cover the personal health conditions of most individuals. Ornithoptera (talk) 19:12, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - Good faith nomination, but while this story is (as the nominator notes) unusual, it's not got the sort of immediate impact that most ITN stories have. GenevieveDEon (talk) 19:13, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Good faith nom, but not significant enough for ITN. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 19:15, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Good faith nom, as one of His Majesty's loyal subjects I'm afraid I have to say that this doesn't quite cross the line for inclusion (and it may not even be terminal). The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 19:18, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Many world leaders have had illnesses and treatments. It simply doesnt rise to the level of ITN inclusion.
Noah, AATalk 19:21, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Nothing has been announced that would indicate that this is a serious health issue. If it is, we can deal with it then. BD2412 T 19:27, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, If he dies from it and the head of state changes then that's significant; the illness itself isn't significant. Certainly news, especially in Commonwealth realms, but not news enough for ITN. JM (talk) 20:38, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral wait until further details Lukt64 (talk) 20:38, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Ian Lavender

Article: Ian Lavender (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

English actor and last surviving cast member of Dad's Army. (Don't tell him, Pike!) The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 12:45, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Due to an unsourced filmography. Support as article looks ready to go now. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 13:46, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, sources currently in article don't cover all of the information. I've only looked at the After Dad's Army section so far but I've checked the sources at the ends of the paragraphs and they don't mention a lot of the information. Suonii180 (talk) 14:07, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I've removed a reference from the article as I think the publication has lifted the information from Wikipedia and is therefore WP:CIRCULAR. However, I've started a discussion at the article's talk page in case the information was originally copied and pasted from elsewhere onto Wikipedia. Suonii180 (talk) 14:25, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support quality suitable for RD. Polyamorph (talk) 17:34, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted. Good work there. Black Kite (talk) 19:11, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Black Kite:, I've added a potential copyright violation tag to the paragraph relating to the reference in my comment above as the two paragraphs are identical. Reference was https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/dads-army-star-ian-lavender-9078725. I'm not sure if it should stay posted on the main page if it is potential issues with copyright. I've listed it at Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2024 February 5. Suonii180 (talk) 21:35, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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