*'''Oppose''' if that's the best we can do, we shouldn't be posting it. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man|talk]]) 20:59, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' if that's the best we can do, we shouldn't be posting it. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man|talk]]) 20:59, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' posting the closing of the show, where it seems very little of importance happened. The opening is more important than the closing, I think. If the opening wasn't even nominated I would wonder if it should remain ITNR. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 21:33, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' posting the closing of the show, where it seems very little of importance happened. The opening is more important than the closing, I think. If the opening wasn't even nominated I would wonder if it should remain ITNR. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 21:33, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per ITN/R. Not sure where the idea "the opening is more important" comes from, the announcements and demos are cumulative and the end of the expo is when no new material is coming out. With an attendance of over 50,000, and many more followers at home, and demos of real products hitting the market, it's easily as important is any soccer pageant which beyond being "popular", has precisely zero value beyond being a vehicle for multi-million dollar advertising deals and corrupt officials who take bribes to administer them. The article isn't great, but I don't see it much worse than the current stickied "FIFA womens world cup" which is a handful of prose and some tables. Yes, this absolutely should remain on ITN/R. I would also support various auto shows, aircraft expos and farm implements fairs if it was demonstrated that these shows were widely attended and considered important in their fields. After all, there is more to life than film festivals, death in India, and cricket. --[[Special:Contributions/36.75.112.225|36.75.112.225]] ([[User talk:36.75.112.225|talk]]) 00:03, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
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Dozens of ISIL militants are killed following a militia attack on the eastern city of Derna. ISIL has had a significant presence in Derna since the end of 2014. (Yahoo)
The European Central Bank increased the cap on cash available to Greek banks through emergency liquidity assistance, as those banks continue to experience steady withdrawals. Greek citizens have withdrawn over 3 billion Euros in the last month. (Reuters)
Hawaii becomes the first U.S. state to raise the smoking age from 18 to 21, effective January 1, 2016, and will also outlaw sales, purchases, or uses of electronic cigarettes for those under 21. (Reuters)
Wait - This is a proposal, meaning they will take public comment to see if there are objections (eg, if anyone can provide evidence they still exist as opposed to the hypothesis that the species is completely wiped out). They will then issue a ruling, and that's when we should post. --MASEM (t) 21:26, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Wait per Masem, but when this is posted it will need to be stated in the blurb who is doing the declaring. The article lead makes it clear that at present different organisations/experts have differing opinions on the matter. Thryduulf (talk) 23:55, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Article updated The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Oppose - Arguably, as a video game fan, nothing much happened this year to attract major news coverage, unlike the previous year in which was the first E3 where the new consoles were on full display for the first time. Bunch of important sequels were announced for sure, but that's not going to be making it a ITN item. --MASEM (t) 20:51, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose posting the closing of the show, where it seems very little of importance happened. The opening is more important than the closing, I think. If the opening wasn't even nominated I would wonder if it should remain ITNR. 331dot (talk) 21:33, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support per ITN/R. Not sure where the idea "the opening is more important" comes from, the announcements and demos are cumulative and the end of the expo is when no new material is coming out. With an attendance of over 50,000, and many more followers at home, and demos of real products hitting the market, it's easily as important is any soccer pageant which beyond being "popular", has precisely zero value beyond being a vehicle for multi-million dollar advertising deals and corrupt officials who take bribes to administer them. The article isn't great, but I don't see it much worse than the current stickied "FIFA womens world cup" which is a handful of prose and some tables. Yes, this absolutely should remain on ITN/R. I would also support various auto shows, aircraft expos and farm implements fairs if it was demonstrated that these shows were widely attended and considered important in their fields. After all, there is more to life than film festivals, death in India, and cricket. --36.75.112.225 (talk) 00:03, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Suspected shooter Dylann Roof is arrested at a traffic stop. Roof is suspected of killing nine people including a South Carolinian state senator. He was charged with multiple drug possession in April and reportedly (by CNN) legally bought the gun at a store after passing a background check despite his criminal record. (ABC News)(ITV News)
At the Vatican, Pope Francis's officials in the Roman Curia formally release the text of his most recent encyclical, Laudato si'. The text, which had been quite anticipated by many sides on the climate change debate and been criticized by some for his involvement in the politicized and charged issue, had been previously leaked. (Reuters), via MSN, (CNN), (Vatican)
Muslims begin fasting at the start of the lunar calendar month of Ramadan, 2015.
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Nominator's comments: Being the founder of Comcast, the largest broadband provider in the United States, [1] seems to establish that Roberts was important enough in his field for RD. Everymorningtalk14:46, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The article dedicates about 1-2 sentences about Roberts' involvement with Comcast; would prefer that it be expanded a little more. SpencerT♦C17:46, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominated by [[User:120.62.17.226 (talk) 12:52, 19 June 2015 (UTC)|120.62.17.226 (talk) 12:52, 19 June 2015 (UTC)]] ([[User talk:120.62.17.226 (talk) 12:52, 19 June 2015 (UTC)|talk]] ·[{{fullurl:User talk:120.62.17.226 (talk) 12:52, 19 June 2015 (UTC)|action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BRoberto+Marcelo+Levingston%5D%5D§ion=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Roberto+Marcelo+Levingston&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated}} give credit])[reply]
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Weak Oppose (primarily article quality) - He seems important as part of national gov't political revolution, but our article is in a far start to recognize this importance, and not in sourcing but just a lack of information. I don't know if this can be fixed in time for posting. --MASEM (t) 15:07, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose on article quality: Article is too short and thin on details. However, being the leader of a huge country clearly passes notability '''tAD''' (talk) 17:11, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Question Is Rasmussen still going to be Prime Minister even though his party does not seem to be the one with the most votes in their block? Zwerg Nase (talk) 11:19, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, ok, thank you! A user named @Norrild1: seems to be a little overzealous in that respect... And you're right, it is exiting. I wish German politics would ever be like that, but we have the big Merkel-alternativelessness... :/ Zwerg Nase (talk) 12:00, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
More neutral blurb posted. Else wait for the government formation (only 1 seat majority)...also note Venstre LOST seats to the DPP and his status as leader is not necessarily assured. Why DPP sacrifice this golden opportunity? (the cited article itself says leadership can change) 120.62.17.226 (talk) 12:46, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: If my blurb appeared biased, not my intentions (I have never even been to Northern Europe, let alone Denmark). My understanding was that Rasmussen was leading a block as it was believed Venstre was the largest of that block, clearly not the result. The Social Democrats retained the plurality yes, but if they don't make the government, that doesn't count for much. Again, I'm no expert on the situation '''tAD''' (talk) 17:10, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Given that Helle Thorning-Schmidt has conceded defeat, I don't think that we should post a blurb saying that the Social Democrats have won a plurality of seats. It would be true but misleading and uninformative as to the actual outcome of the election. Neljack (talk) 22:52, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support first blurb. The Social Democrat leader Helle Thorning-Schmidt resigned as both Prime Minister and party leader hours after the election.The important thing is not the largest party but who can form a government. All four parties in the opposition block (which together have 90 of 179 MP's) have pointed to Lars Løkke Rasmussen as trying to form a government. It's very likely but not certain he will become Prime Minister, but it's not known which other parties will be part of the government. Denmark nearly always has minority governments with parliamentary support from other parties. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:26, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's comments: As the New York Times link above notes, the release of this encyclical has been "much-awaited". This has big implications because of the size of the Catholic Church (+1 billion people). Everymorningtalk11:32, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support. This should be a no-brainer - it's a huge story and widely discussed in the media today. I've taken the liberty of updating the hook to replace "global warming" with "environmental degradation and climate change", which is more consistent with the article and with the encyclical itself, which covers far more than just global warming. Prioryman (talk) 11:56, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support. It affects not only the one billion catholics around the world, but raises interest among politicians and citizens of the most diverse countries. As I'm writing this, it is the 3rd worldwide trending topic on Twitter. Cato censor (talk) 12:44, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Widespread news coverage, international scope, and though the article is a bit short, it's still new and appears to be reasonably sourced. Jusdafax12:47, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The American NBC network announces that Lester Holt will continue as the host of the NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams returning in an undisclosed role. (The Wrap)
In the United States, the California Labor Commission ruled that a San Francisco Uber driver is a company employee, not a contractor. Uber appealed this ruling, that would increase the company's costs and liabilities, to the state's court system. A hearing for a class certification of a similar lawsuit against Uber is scheduled for August 2015. (NPR), (Time Magazine)(U.S. News & World Report)
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Oppose Could read "a centenarian dies". There will always be an "oldest person in the world", and they will not likely live that much longer, passing the title to someone else. To me, this is trivial. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:01, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - She was one of three still living that was born in the 1800s, meaning of course that when the last of the remaining two dies, there will be no remaining. I suggest that that fact might be widely noted and worthy of an RD or a blurb. Worth a thought now, in my view. Jusdafax20:42, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Reply: Before Weaver, there was a nomination to post the death of Misao Okawa. Weaver only "held the title" for 6 days, whilst Okawa was the oldest person in the world for 1 year and 9 months before that. That nomination was closed as having no consensus. Looking at this list, having three "oldest people" die in the same year has been an uncommon event. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 07:56, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose blurb, also oppose RD but somewhat less strongly. I hardly ever actually vote here, but I remember reading something related to this a month ago and wanted to throw out the link: [2]. The takeaway is that, as overall lifespans increase and you get more and more supercenetarians, the period between deaths of the oldest living people will get shorter and shorter, thus becoming less and less "newsworthy". Since 2000, the time between deaths of the oldest living person has averaged 7 months; I think it's been much less than that since the previous oldest person died (after e/c: yes, per George above). I'd vote for the "last person born before 1900", when it happens.--Floquenbeam (talk) 21:11, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD - Article is on the short side but well-referenced and an interesting read. It's ITN-worthy for RD, as I see it. And not every one of these cases needs to be posted, but this one is appealing. Jusdafax21:25, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - This is the third oldest person to die this year. And considering that an older oldest person wasn't included in April [3], I'd say precedent has been set. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.95.148.252 (talk) 21:56, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Precedent is useful to a point, but I think we can ignore it in this case. It's notable that she received correspondence from President Barak Obama. [Note: I have added a brief "Death" section to the article.] Jusdafax22:05, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. From what I have observed this sort of thing has little chance of being posted; the only thing that probably would make it would be if someone outlived Jeanne Calment and was the longest-lived human to be documented. Also possibly when the last person born in the 1800's passes(maybe) 331dot (talk) 23:04, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's comments: Developing news. Significant mass-casualty event that is grabbing headlines throughout North America, and yet another development in the racially motivated violence that has been banner news lately in the United States. Kudzu1 (talk) 05:50, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support sixth or seventh mass murder in the United States so far this year, but made mildly notable by the race element and the death of a former senator. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:05, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Very tragic indeed; it's way too soon to tell whether it's racially motivated. As far as I know, nine were killed, and a white man is arrestedassumed but not yet captured. As for the state senator, he has been notable and also a pastor. However, regardless of race, I couldn't see him as highly prominent as a U.S. senator or representative. Well, murder is not that rampant, according to city statistics. However, I have seen a lot of reports about killings on African Americans, especially in Wikipedia's ITN. I hate to ask this, but were killings among Black British individuals featured ITN? I hope I'm not harsh. George Ho (talk) 07:15, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I was trying to find individual murders or shootings, but searching for those in 2000s or 2010s ain't easy. At least I'm reading others. --George Ho (talk) 07:51, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support: This is a major current event that is tentatively being called a major hate crime and has resulted in at least one notable figure's death. DARTHBOTTOtalk•cont07:52, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support Although there is no shortage of spree killings in the US, this one does seem to be a little bit more notable, for number and identity of victims, and the potential hate crime aspect. Though I would be more comfortable if the latter was actually confirmed. Fgf10 (talk) 08:21, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support, killing includes a state senator, and occurred at an historic black church. while no absolute proof it was a racist hate crime, its being investigated as such. major news event.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 15:50, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Post-posting comment Of course this should go up. I'll be honest, I'm struggling to see the good faith in arguing that Americans are so murderous that this is business as usual, which bizarrely enough seems to be the angle some want to take with killing spree stories. If we're going to do this silly trans-Atlantic antagonism thing, can we maybe not be so tasteless about it? - OldManNeptune⚓22:32, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Post-posting comment – Why does the blurb say "at least" nine people were shot? Sources I've seen – AP, NYT, BBC, Guardian – say nine, period. Sca (talk) 13:27, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's comments: The New York Times describes lee as "a pioneering deal maker and among the most influential Wall Street investment bankers of his era." The Wall Street Journal also described him as "a pioneer of syndicated lending." This seems to indicate he meets WP:ITND criterion 2. Everymorningtalk 02:11, 18 June 2015 (UTC) Everymorningtalk02:11, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: Atrocious article filled with tags. Didn't even hold the highest corporate office of his company. Fails notability criteria and quality is right out. -Kudzu1 (talk) 05:13, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Is there something missing that I'm not seeing? Vice chairman of a company? He wasn't even at the top of his own employer, much less his field. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.95.148.252 (talk) 15:59, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Support - No one has noticed that he became a city mayor decades later. Although his politics was less prominent than his athletics, this guy's name deserves to be mentioned honorably. Also, the article's in good shape, and I added the image. George Ho (talk) 20:10, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
A shame, considering his "Athletic career" section features precisely zero references, which is exactly why the nomination was tagged as not ready and not updated and "weak". Bad promotion. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:46, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
When I saw the nomination it was marked as ready, the article contained no tags, and there were no quality objections in the comments (indeed the opposite is true). Thryduulf (talk) 09:38, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, well the article was still in need of updating, per the nomination header. Those who thought an entirely unreferenced sectoin regarding his athletic career was acceptable should think again. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:42, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Support on notability grounds, but c'mon, articles on important people like this really have to be adequately sourced. -Kudzu1 (talk) 05:49, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support when sourcing is improved. He was a truly significant person in Turkish history, and I would even support a blurb. Unfortunately the article is mostly unsourced. -Zanhe (talk) 05:25, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support full blurb once the quality issues are resolved. He spent his entire political career on the top of the Turkish politics in a time span of 35 years, being Prime Minister in five occasions and President for seven years. Financial Times has described him in the obituary as "a leading figure among the country’s post-Atatürk second generation of politicians", which is a very clear indicator of his importance in the history of Turkey, a country with now a population of over 70 million people and very high geopolitical significance.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 06:50, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
[Closed] Procedural proposal - next story to be removed
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I would like to propose that when the next story is ready to be posted to the main page, the French Open tennis be removed before Christopher Lee. His death and the end of the tournament were both on 7 June, and in the grand scheme of things, surely his passing is more worthy of remaining on the front page a few hours longer than a cyclical sports story. That the NBA results are bound to be posted shortly, along with Wimbledon starting in less than two weeks, should be factors taken into consideration. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 04:30, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed it is standard procedure to treat a nomination from the date of announcement if it has been embargoed. I think the suggestion by Ho below was prematurely withdrawn. In any case, the effective date of the nom was the 11th. μηδείς (talk) 04:37, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm neutral on this, but I do want to point out the posting of Lee's blurb was not universal, and we really need to be careful with celebrity deaths; WP is not a memorial. I would fairly argue (per the talk page) that Lee's death should be considered as of the 11th, when the family released the news, and evaluate which nom gets kicked out that way, but in absolutely no way should this consideration be based on the fame of Lee. --MASEM (t) 04:47, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I should clarify that this proposal is not "because it is Christopher Lee"; I'm not a fan of his in any sense. However there are four major tennis tournaments each year, with the next certain to appear in ITN within a month. Add to that the countless minor tournaments that are played throughout the year, and the French Open looks very old in comparison to the other stories. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 05:13, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Restored the listing has been restored. The principle here is that the date of a nomination is not the same as the date of the event, but the date on which the news is released. When two items are listed on the same day, the second item is posted at the top. I am not quite sure why Masem keeps pointing out that the posting was not "universal", supports for a blurb far outweighed opposes. μηδείς (talk) 17:35, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment the French Open item was restored because the terrible trans fat article was correctly removed. I restored the last ITN item to retain main page balance. There's no reason that once the next decent ITN item is added that Christopher Lee's blurb shouldn't be retained, but there needs to be some centralised discussion over this kind thing in future rather than this odd "procedural proposal" juxtaposed twixt standard ITN candidates. WT:ITN would seem a good place to start. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:43, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment those in opposition need to be reminded that this is an WP:ITNR item. If they would like to see it removed from the recurring items list, make a proposal there rather than just complaining here. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:26, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support one of the top three US sporting championships. Opposes based on being important to one nation are discounted, read the top of the page. μηδείς (talk) 20:32, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I read it. If being significant to one country is not sufficient reason to oppose the story, perhaps another reason will. Umm... I'm not much of a basketball fan, and I don't care much about it. Well... I wasn't good at basketball practises, but that's not the main issue. Two city teams competing each other wasn't that thrilling, but Super Bowls have gotten posted because... well, it's American football, not soccer. If US soccer team tournaments haven't been posted, why have been Super Bowl and NBA Finals? --George Ho (talk) 20:50, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
George, as I said above, it's ITNR. Please voice your concerns at a more appropriate venue in order to get this removed if you really think, as a global phenomenon watched by hundreds of millions, it shouldn't qualify for a blurb. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:01, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Would that be forum shopping? Whatever... Doing it so soon would be disruptive, and I fear an administrator would exploit this to get me reported to ANI. --George Ho (talk) 21:24, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Right now, 3 of 6 news items on main page are sporting events, plus a sporting event in "ongoing". I don't care that this is WP:ITNR. I've had enough sports advertisements on the main page of wikipedia for a long time. This item clearly promotes the NBA just as the French Open promotes tennis and Stanley Cup promotes ice hockey. Brian Everlasting (talk) 21:14, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You do have personal bias. You oppose solely on hates sports/America. Sorry that the Americans have the most native English speakers. Sorry that the Americans have the best athletes. If you want something else posted, go make it yourself. Correctron (talk) 23:18, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No, I don't hate Americans. In fact, I nominated a recent Alaskan wildfire, which many opposed. Same for many other nominations that I did. --George Ho (talk) 23:35, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support per ITNR but replace the tennis with this, it's 10 days old and Christopher Lee is only 6 days old (even though he died on the 7th, his death wasn't released until 11th), thus maintaining 3 sports stories on ITN. Black Kite (talk)22:47, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Seems the remaining sections that have no citations, Game 3 and Game 4, are loaded with random WP:OR play-by-play and trivia. Might be easier to just delete and rewrite a brief verifiable few sentences of each game then to hunt down for sources (if the existing text is even correct). I'm on vacation, so good luck.—Bagumba (talk) 23:44, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
ITN/R looks ready to me. The only thing to be determined here is whether the article is ready for posting, and it would appear that it is. Discussions on whether this should or should not be in ITN/R should take place in the appropriate venue, no? - OldManNeptune⚓02:28, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment two of the games have no inline references at all and have been tagged as such, please, supporters, address these issues and then we should be in a position to post. The Rambling Man (talk) 04:46, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support - ITNR. And if it displaces the French Open item near the bottom, we'll still end up with the same number of sports items as now. -Zanhe (talk) 05:28, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Rupert Murdoch confirms stepping down as the CEO of 21st Century Fox to be succeeded by his son James on July 1, 2015. Rupert will continue as its executive chairman with his eldest son, Lachlan, as a future executive co-chairman. (USA Today)
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issues a mandate that all artificial trans fatty acids (trans fats) must be eliminated within three years (2018) from all foods grown, imported to, or sold within the United States. It is the strictest and most final type of ruling, even more so than a black-box warning or a warning to list ingredients, that can be given from the federal agency, which has ultimate jurisdiction over the safety of all food and drug products, public or private, in the United States. The substances occur in processed meats and other foods, and have been repeatedly implicated in atherosclerotic coronary heart disease, diabetes, and some cancers. (MSN), (Washington Post),(CNN Money), (FDA's statement)
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The obituary blurb is now at the bottom, and we are anticipating newer stories soon. I know that the obituary is kinda old, but keeping it in Main Page a little longer doesn't seem bad. Shall the article be moved back to RD ticker to make room for other stories? --George Ho (talk) 20:42, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Christopher Lee died ten days ago, before James Last. He'd be about to drop off that too, so there's no point. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:48, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Respectfully oppose. Sir Christopher was a great man and he got the attention he deserved on ITN. But we are not a perpetual memorial. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:46, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's comments: Kerkorian had a major role in shaping Vegas. During most of his life, he was the wealthiest Armenian in the world. Երևանցիtalk15:36, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support on article improvements - Importance is reasonable, but article is poorly sourced particularly in the personal life section. --MASEM (t) 15:39, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Was going to nominate for the same reason...he's clearly a leader in his business field which doesn't get posted here. (why the Armenian nominee ;))120.62.26.187 (talk) 15:49, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support Well-respected businessman. He is undoubtedly notable. The news made headlines around the world. As we speak, it is among the top trending news items around the world. Étienne Dolet (talk) 18:10, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support on the merits as meeting DC2 and arguably DC1 in Las Vegas but oppose on quality until article is improved. 331dot (talk) 19:31, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's comments: Originally projected to be happening around October last year (when they made a preliminary point about unsafe trans fats) this is the result of this aimed to stem heart attack rates. Some points: First, I know some will argue we should wait for the ban to be enacted, and I'm sure there's a number of lawsuits against the FDA to block this, but this is a major step already, since it is already affecting food production companies and their stock values - it is equivalent to the announcement of a merger. Second, while this is not the first country to block trans fat (Denmark was), the US's influence will likely lead other countries to follow suit, particularly given how the US does tend to be a food exporter. MASEM (t) 14:44, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support on updates - more countries are likely to follow US and Denmark's lead - the large size of the US food market should demonstrate that a phaseout over three years is possible in any market. -- Aronzak (talk) 15:26, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Likely is a presumption. It ain't happened yet and could also be challenged. Just another step after the initial labelling requirement. oppose120.62.26.187 (talk) 15:50, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support. A notable public health development with worldwide implications if other nations follow the lead of the US FDA. 331dot (talk) 15:55, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support The FDA doing something, anything, to improve the safety of food or drugs for consumers is unusual and noteworthy. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:57, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Note that a large fraction of the trans fat article is about national and local policies to regulate/eliminate TFs. Arguable one could make a separate article "Government regulation of trans fat" which in context seems like a more appropriate article, but there's no need to separate them at this time. --MASEM (t) 01:31, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If you want the article split to government regulation of trans fats then say so explicitly and we can do it for a better ITN target. -- Aronzak (talk) 01:58, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm saying that presently there is no need to split. The bulk of the article about trans fat is more about the health effects and government regulation, and splitting that out would weaken the existing article. If necessary, we can always link the blurb term to the appropriate section. --MASEM (t) 03:39, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support the target is trans fat, and the maintenance tags are actually irrelevant to this blurb. They say that parts of the article are focused too much on US, and this blurb is strictly talking about US. Nergaal (talk) 18:59, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
So it's okay to link to an article which is heavily biased towards one country when the blurb is talking about that one country? Perhaps we can add that to the ITN instructions. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:37, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
From your statements I can assume that you would be 100% happy with forking half of the article to "Trans fat in USA" and then linking that. Nergaal (talk) 20:31, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You know what they say about "assuming"! It may be a good start, it would be helpful to see an article discussing why trans fat is such a talking point in the US and how this FDA ruling (the same FDA that bans Kinder eggs) is worth anything notable beyond the odd little enclave it "governs". The Rambling Man (talk) 20:36, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If you want the article split to government regulation of trans fats then say so explicitly. The US food industry says that they've been moving away from trans fats in most product categories before the ruling (latimes) - this isn't just the FDA - the food industry has been readying to phase out their use. -- Aronzak (talk) 01:58, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This would need a separate target article, and removing butter, lard, and various natural oils from food is simply not going to happen, so the blurb as written is simply false. But we also have a longstanding deprecation of posting mere policy decisions in one country. μηδείς (talk) 19:45, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Their elimination would be significant, if it happens in three years, but the announcement itself does very little to affect even most Americans. InedibleHulk(talk) 00:39, June 17, 2015 (UTC)
Except set the official FDA policy for the next three years and push other countries towards officially phasing trans fats out. The phaseout will be protracted - the most public attention on the issue will be now. The failure of regulation does not mean that attempting a regulatory change costing $6.8 bn US is not newsworthy. ITN doesn't have to be for just completed news. -- Aronzak (talk) 01:20, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Unless other countries (and non-FDA America) push the other way, harder. The FDA doesn't always win. Public attention is something, but it's not exactly a significant impact. Seven billion dollars is a significant cost, but it hasn't been paid yet. This is potentially big. InedibleHulk(talk) 03:45, June 17, 2015 (UTC)
Pulled – I don't venture over here much, but this article had three orange maintenance tags and eleven "citation needed" tags, it is clearly not up to standard for a bold main page link. I note that there is some significant opposition here too irrespective of that. Harriastalk15:53, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's comments: ITN/R. Didn't see it here, so I nommed using the same presentation as last year. Article still needs a summary for the final game and could use a few refs in each section. Floydianτ¢03:41, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This looks fine, the game summaries are there etc. Posting. The core burb only, the long one is for statistics. --Tone15:32, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment a rapid posting, but one with which I won't take too much issue. However, do we really think that phrases like "played tight to the vest" and "scored on a perfect setup" etc etc are befitting an encyclopedic report of the game? I don't even understand the first phrase. Some inline referencing of all these tabloid write-ups wouldn't go amiss... (And "something the franchise has not done since 1938" which clearly needs a tense change). The Rambling Man (talk) 18:28, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Because he decided that the update was sufficient, it's ITNR after all. My comment was really related to the crap journalistic tone and the lack of inline references, but it's not that big a deal. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:50, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Note - Sports lingo not needed. It would be sufficient to report that all the games were low-scoring, and that the first five games were one-goal margins, the first time that had happened since 1951, or thereabouts, according to the play-by-play announcer. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 20:13, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Don't pull I'm proofreading some of the language. Already took out that "vest" comment, which seems to be an idiom used improperly. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:38, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the feedback, I'm hoping we can get a picture that relates to the top story of ITN every time it changes, to stop people claiming they're "confused" by having a picture of something that isn't the top story. Feel free to log into your account and help. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:24, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
At least 23 people are killed and more than 100 injured in suicide attacks on police headquarters and training centers by suspected Boko Haram members in N'Djamena, Chad. (New York Times)
The Vatican announces that the first hearing in the trial of Józef Wesołowski, a former papal ambassador to the Dominican Republic and a Polish former prelate of the Roman Catholic Church, is scheduled for July 11. (ABC News), (NPR)
I should have researched more. --George Ho (talk) 20:08, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
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Nominator's comments: Alaska rarely has wildfires. This is special. If blurb is not deserving, perhaps make the event "Ongoing". George Ho (talk) 07:16, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose it doesn't seem particularly notable. That the nominator suggests Alaska "rarely has wildfires" yet Wikipedia has Category:Wildfires in Alaska and 2004 Alaska fire season seems to indicate that it's not all that rare. Destruction of a handful of properties and limited-to-no proper casualties suggest this is a non-story, certainly not making the ITN bar. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:36, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I'd been considering this for a bit but I agree with TRM; this doesn't quite seen notable enough for ITN. Definitely not ongoing; if the situation changes, we can revisit it. 331dot (talk) 19:37, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's comments: I think that since this has received a huge amount of news coverage and is being marked by a lot of ceremony, [6] and because this was such a historically important document, it rises past OTD and to the level of ITN. Everymorningtalk22:13, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per reasons stated; unless there is some large, notable gathering or commemoration to hang our hat on, OTD should be sufficient. 331dot (talk) 22:25, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This is a OTD story. We mentioned the centenary of the Armenian Genocide because all of its victims were made saints, something different to the 99th, 57th or 28th etc anniversaries. If HM The Queen uses this anniversary to revoke the Magna Carta to vindicate her ancestor John, that would be well...a news story '''tAD''' (talk) 23:18, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Qiao Shi was one of the top leaders of China for the 1980s and 1990s. We posted Deng Liqun in RD a few months ago, and Qiao Shi is of higher seniority and rank compared to Deng. Was once number-three figure in China and considered a top candidate for leader before being ousted in what appeared to be a power struggle. Qiao's stature is unrivalled by any peers if measured by the number of major offices he held; he, at one point, was the head of the Communist Party's international department, organization department, chief of staff, head of the anti-corruption agency, the head of the politics and law commission, vice-premier, and speaker of the legislature. Significant coverage in China and Japan. Moreover let's not forget systemic bias - if George P. Shultz died tomorrow, I'm sure he would get an RD. Colipon+(Talk) 18:46, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's comments: Zito captained the Santos side which toured the world with the fame of its icon, Pelé. Zito himself was established in the world football scene, he won two consecutive World Cups, scoring in the latter final. For a younger generation, he can be honoured as the discoverer of Neymar. '''tAD''' (talk) 16:12, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose on quality. Article has adequate references, but is barely above stub-class. I would expect a truly significant footballer to have a much more detailed article. -Kudzu1 (talk) 16:46, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support, with the article now expanded: Seems to have been a famous and well-regarded football star, although nowhere near as famous as his teammate Pele or his onetime protege Neymar. -Kudzu1 (talk) 19:01, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support the article is still poor but the claims made therein are notable, and he was clearly at the top of international football for a while. Plus, four characters in his name means a fourth could easily be added to RD... The Rambling Man (talk) 19:32, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose on importance. Just because he played with Pele doesn't mean he meets DC. No awards or honors I can see that would imply he does. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:10, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
What is the article whose quality we are assessing for inclusion on the main page? Currently, we have no Wikipedia content to highlight, so I am not sure what you are nominating. Redlinks cannot be "the best Wikipedia has to offer". --Jayron3214:13, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment despite this IP's abject refusal to do anything about his inability to create an article, which would take about two minutes, the news story has some legs, with around 23 people killed by suicide bombers in Chad. I cannot recall ever seeing an article at ITN about Chad, and this is pretty grim, but is it now just "one of those things" that happens in Africa, that a handful of people are blown up by suicide bombers? I don't know. But nevertheless, this nomination is a complete waste of time until we have an article, which the knowledgeable IP already knows and could do himself if he logged into his account. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:52, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Support lots of news outlets reporting that Chad is saying Boko Haram organised the bombings - which suggests this is a revenge attack for Chad's involvement with Nigeria in fighting Boko Haram. Note - VOA reports Nigerian president Muhammadu Buhari "has traveled to Chad and Niger for discussions on the fight" and "Foreign military officials traveled to Abuja on Thursday" - suggesting this bombing could be trying to undermine cross-border military cooperation. -- Aronzak (talk) 11:46, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose without major expansion. The entire substance of the article is in the two-line lead. The remainder is made up of "background" telling about the local civil war, and a "reaction" section with two statements from world leaders. There's nothing in the body of the article about the attack itself. The guidelines require three full prose paragraphs and not just stuff tangential to the event itself. μηδείς (talk) 19:40, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per previous comment, the content of the article that deals with this "in the news" item is essentially the lead and mercifully brief but lame reaction section. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:43, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Flooding in the Georgian capital, Tbilisi, destroys animal enclosures at a zoo resulting in the release of potentially dangerous animals and the death of three zookeepers and six other people. (AP), (USA Today), (Reuters, DPA via WA Today)
The High Court in Pretoria grants an interim order preventing al-Bashir from leaving South Africa, and postpones the application for his arrest to the next day to allow the government more time to prepare. (News24)(News24)
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Support: Good work by nominator on getting this page in fine fettle. Seems like a notable figure in recent Chinese political history. -Kudzu1 (talk) 16:46, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support (and apologize for posting duplicate entry above). Qiao Shi was one of the top leaders of China for the 1980s and 1990s. We posted Deng Liqun in RD a few months ago, and Qiao Shi is of higher seniority and rank compared to Deng. Was once number-three figure in China and considered a top candidate for leader before being ousted in what appeared to be a power struggle. Qiao's stature is unrivalled by any peers if measured by the number of major offices he held; he, at one point, was the head of the Communist Party's international department, organization department, chief of staff, head of the anti-corruption agency, the head of the politics and law commission, vice-premier, and speaker of the legislature. Significant coverage in China and Japan. Moreover let's not forget systemic bias - if George P. Shultz died tomorrow, I'm sure he would get an RD. Colipon+(Talk) 19:08, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Before the article was fixed, I was unsure about nominating the article for ITN. However, I'll give this props for explaining the prominence of the late politician. Although someone else did the nomination before me, this article deserves an honorary mention. --George Ho (talk) 01:34, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's comments: Described by the Washington Post link above as "one of the most distinguished and inspiring newspaper editors of his time". He also, according to his NY Times obituary, "helped deliver 13 Pulitzer Prizes to The [Los Angeles] Times during his five-year run as its editor." Everymorningtalk23:24, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, not known for his reporting, that his hirees won Pulitzers is like saying a manager was great because he drafted MVP's. μηδείς (talk) 23:57, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose on article quality as needing more citations(as stated); uncertain as to merits. I'm inclined to agree with Medeis' analogy; I'm not clear on what exactly his influence was if not simply hiring people who were already talented. I'm also not sure what the field is; is it journalism? Journalism management? 331dot (talk) 00:26, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I think there's a misreading going on. He didn't hire people with Pulitzers, he hired people who went to win Pulitzers with stories that he (presumably) commissioned or edited. That said, I'd oppose because he doesn't seem to have been significant outside the newspaper - someone like Ben Bradlee or Bill Deedes who had a more major effect on society, I would support. Smurrayinchester09:56, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I read the article and did understand that point, although my terse comment above was ambiguous. It doesn't affect my opinion. He was basically given the money by management to bring in better talent. It's like praising a competent museum director with big-budget backing for acquiring some cool works of art. μηδείς (talk) 18:02, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose – I'd heard of Mr. Carroll because of my background in the news biz, but I don't think he quite qualifies as being at the top of his field. Sca (talk) 22:26, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment Race report not yet written, I'd await going for or against until time is taken to write it out. 24 hours is a lot to cover. The359 (Talk) 19:38, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for now. The current article does not contain a complete prose synopsis of the race. There is a partially completed one in the "Race" section, but unless and until there is some prose to read about the complete race, we should not post this. As soon as that is rectified, this can be posted with or without any further comment from me. --Jayron3214:16, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Blurb Why is Hulkenberg being singled out? This wasn't a Formula One race.
The only reason was that some news source cites that his win was the first for a driver serving a full season since 1991 but then I don't have any objection to any removal. Donnie Park (talk) 21:47, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oh please let's not get into a bitching contest over what is helpful and pointless. Remove the Formula One - I don't know how to propose another blurb. Sorry, I know that makes me less of a person.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.95.148.251 (talk • contribs)
I agree that Formula One should not be mentioned. All three drivers have racing careers outside of this race, that one is in Formula One does not merit mention over the others. The359 (Talk) 21:30, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I have added a cropped image of the race winners to Donnie Park's nomination. The blurb should be altered if the picture is used as it depicts, from left to right: Nick Tandy, Earl Bamber, and Nico Hülkenberg. The359 (Talk) 21:45, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's comments: Article probably needs a fair bit of work to bring up to speed but not every day numerous animals, including a hippopotamus, 6 lions, 6 tigers, 7 bears, and 13 wolves escape from a zoo, citywide damage is estimated at $9.4 million EdwardLane (talk) 13:47, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Dangerous might be a better word than wild, given some of the deaths were caused by the zoo animals. Frankly, I am surprised anyone got near that hippo. μηδείς (talk) 20:38, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
it did say dangerous in my original blurb, until this diff, intention had been to leave discovery of zoo info in the article so that blurb said less than article, and made it a simpler sentence construction - so I'd support a tweaked blurb. EdwardLane (talk) 21:22, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Scheduled talks of 14th June, 2015 between Yemen's Houthi rebels and the exiled government which are brokered by the UN have been postponed with a new schedule set for Monday 15 June, 2015. (The Daily Star (Lebanon) via Reuters
A man opens fire at policemen outside the police headquarters in the Texan city of Dallas, while a bag containing a pipe bomb is also found. He was later shot dead by police snipers following a car chase and standoff. (AP), (CNN)
Nominator's comments: While we did post when the lander had been confirmed to have landed on the comet back in Nov [13], after that the lander went communications-dead as it appeared to have landed in a shadowed area where it could not receive power, so the continuation of the mission was unsure. Now that the lander has enough power, the mission is able to continue. MASEM (t) 15:40, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose what, a Swedish royal marriage could become ITNR? Or just any old royal wedding? Definitely eye-catching news because of the past career of her royal highness, and a "good news" story to boot, but hardly rising above the level of a Hello magazine "news" item. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:16, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, obviously. Carl Philip isn't heir apparent, so there's not even the "commoner in line to become queen" element there was with Kate Middleton. This story is basically "posh person marries someone slightly less posh". – iridescent18:21, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as Carl Philip is not heir apparent. Also, the UK royal family is relevant to many countries making its line more notable. 331dot (talk) 18:23, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - The wedding of Prince William and Duchess Catherine was posted ITN on the front page. Why not the Swedish royal marriage? Well, it's not as if all royal marriages deserve the front page. By the way, the wedding of Prince Charles and Duchess Camille was not posted on the front page at the time of the event. --George Ho (talk) 22:25, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
There is a high degree of reasonable expectation that Princes Charles, William and George will eventually become kings. There is a low reasonable expectation that the Swedish prince would do so. Same deal as with Prince Harry and Princess Charlotte. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 11:16, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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