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January 1

Portal:Current events/2024 January 1

January 1, 2024 (2024-01-01) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war 2023 Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip The IDF withdraws five brigades, consisting of thousands of soldiers, from the Gaza Strip and says the war will enter a "different mode of operations". (Al Jazeera) At least 27 rockets are fired by Hamas shortly after midnight at cities and towns in central and southern Israel. (Times of Israel) (Ynet) Nagorno-Karabakh conflict The Republic of Artsakh officially ceases to exist, in accordance with a decree signed by former president Samvel Shahramanyan. (Interfax) Six people are killed during an ambush in the Abyei region, an area disputed between Sudan and South Sudan. (Al Jazeera) Arts and culture Public Domain Day 2024 in American public domain The animated short film Steamboat Willie, the German-language version of the novel All Quiet on the Western Front, and other works published in 1928 enter the public domain in the United States. (Mashable) The Sheikh Zayed Festival at Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates breaks four Guinness World Records for a hour-long fireworks display and drone show during the New Year celebration. (Gulf News) Disasters and accidents 2024 Noto earthquake A magnitude 7.6 earthquake strikes the Noto Peninsula in Ishikawa Prefecture, Japan, killing 55 people. A tsunami warning is issued for multiple prefectures along the Sea of Japan. (Reuters) One person is killed and 21 others are injured in a fire at a bar in Graz, Austria, that was hosting a New Year's party. (AP) International relations Foreign relations of Ethiopia, Foreign relations of Somaliland Ethiopia announces an agreement with Somaliland to use 20 km of coastline, including the port of Berbera, in exchange for eventual recognition of the Somaliland Declaration of Independence, which would make it the first country to do so. (Reuters) Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates formally join the BRICS group as new members. (Tehran Times) War in Sudan (2023–present) Former Prime Minister of Sudan Abdallah Hamdok, leader of the pro-civillian Sudanese Coordination of Civil Democratic Forces, meets the leader of the Rapid Support Forces Hemedti in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia for peace talks. (All Africa) Law and crime 2023 Israeli judicial reform Movement for Quality Government in Israel v. Knesset The Supreme Court of Israel votes 8–7 to strike down the "reasonableness" bill passed by the Knesset in July. (BBC News) (Times of Israel) LGBT rights in Estonia Same-sex marriage in Estonia Estonia becomes the 36th country in the world where same-sex couples can marry. (Postimees) Bangladeshi economist and Nobel Peace Prize laureate Muhammad Yunus and three people that worked at his company Grameen Telecom are sentenced to six months in prison for violating Bangladesh's labor laws. (Al Jazeera)

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2024 Japan earthquake

Article: 2024 Sea of Japan earthquake (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ An earthquake strikes Japan. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A magnitude-7.5 earthquake strikes the Sea of Japan
News source(s): AlJazeera The Guardian BBC The Japan Times
Credits:

• Nominated by PrinceofPunjab (talk · give credit)

Two major Tsunami warnings issued. It is getting significant international coverage. PrinceofPunjab (talk) 09:32, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Support - Biggest earthquake since Fukushima. Really bad news.s PrecariousWorlds (talk) 09:51, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Wait – No indication of significant impact yet besides tsunami warnings across the Japan Sea Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 10:12, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Wait, leaning towards support This is already the headline of several news agencies around the world, but I think we should wait for further reports to get a clearer picture (with regards to the scale of this event). Vida0007 (talk) 10:17, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Wait We need reports about the impact of the Tsunamis first, before we can make any assessment of the importance of this event. Nigej (talk) 10:39, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Support on notability. I've proposed an altblurb. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 11:17, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Lean support, wait for now Blurb is too general, altblurb could be worked on a bit more. Impact of earthquake and tsunami has not been fully accessed as of now, but is worth a post due to the significance. Tofusaurus (talk) 11:23, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Wait Casualty and damage reports seem to be nonexistent or relatively minor at the moment, and the tsunami has been relatively weak. While geologically interesting I would say we have to wait and see if any further reports of damage comes up - a 7.5 has less than 1% of the energy of the Fukushima quake, after all. Juxlos (talk) 12:02, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Support - A 7.5 magnitude earthquake is considered a major earthquake. However, blurb is too general. Setarip (talk) 12:24, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Support - One of the biggest news to possibly come out in 2024. Kampolama (talk) 12:52, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Support Quality is there, and while the number of fatalities and casualties are low for how big this was, it was unusual to have occurred in the Sea of Japan (rather than from the Pacific Ocean), where the country is not as well set up for tsunamis or the like. --Masem (t) 14:49, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Conditional support but wait until more info regarding fatalities and the like is received. qw3rty 15:55, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Congo elections

Article: 2023 Democratic Republic of the Congo general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Félix Tshisekedi (pictured) is re-elected as President of the Democratic Republic of the Congo. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
• Created by Moondragon21 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by WikiCleanerMan (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

The election seems to have been significantly chaotic and disputed but such opposition is more democratic than none at all. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:05, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality as the article is a long way off from front page-level. The Kip 08:12, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. Significant improvements in article quality would be needed to make this front-page-worthy. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 11:19, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

BRICS Expansion

Article: BRICS (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates join BRICS. (Post)
News source(s): BBC The Economist
Credits:

• Nominated by MtPenguinMonster (talk · give credit)

BRICS expands on January 1st. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 06:49, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Comment Should we mention the rejection from Argentina? Unnamelessness (talk) 07:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose Not significant and not in the news. That a hapless state like Argentina can't see any point in joining this overblown acronym seems quite telling. The article is a bloated and disorganised mess too. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:50, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

  What are you talking about?Wait until,January 1 when it takes effect and besides ,this was extensively covered in the news when this was announced during the latest BRICS summit 5.193.27.221 (talk) 13:47, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

  Huh? It's being covered by several major news outlets, and I would consider the expansion of an intergovernmental organization by a factor of 2 pretty significant. qw3rty 15:32, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

  Just Andrew being contrarian. The Kip 06:45, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support Being covered pretty heavily in the news, and is significant in and of itself. qw3rty 15:32, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose Article is nowhere close to being ready to post. No comment yet on the significance, but the article must be improved first. --Masem (t) 16:02, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support on significance, expansion of a major international organisation, no comment on article state. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 17:23, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose what is in the news is Argentina not joining, which seems hardly notable. The quality of the article is also not there. 2A02:908:676:E640:7830:DBEE:B63:525E (talk) 18:06, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

  The others who are joining has been covered extensively before and was advised to post this on the 1st of January when this actually takes effect 2001:8F8:1473:923D:6862:3256:F94F:6E4E (talk) 08:04, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support If we can regularly post the expansion of NATO, then we should most definitely post the expansion of BRICS.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 18:33, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

  NATO expansion has far greater geopolitical impact and receives far greater coverage. BilledMammal (talk) 06:48, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Support due to how extensively it is being covered in the news Lukt64 (talk) 18:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Comment other than the participation in an annual summit, does this membership mean anything? BRICS does not have an equivalent to NATO's Article Five mutual defense pact. 217.180.228.138 (talk) 19:32, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• It gives you entry to the BRICS Games... Andrew🐉(talk) 19:52, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• They have a development bank, a reserve agreement and plans for a common currency that would have to largely replace the US dollar in international trade. NATO is a toy compared to BRICS.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 20:02, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• The bank is rather separate now as it has non-BRICS countries as members, such as Bangladesh, while Russia's participation is currently limited due to "sound banking principles". Andrew🐉(talk) 20:38, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• The bank is fully operated by BRICS, so it’s certainly an affiliated institution. It’s just that they allowed non-BRICS members to join.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 21:13, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• No, that bank is not operated by BRICS because BRICS doesn't seem to have a permanent staff or secretariat. The bank is a separate institution with its own staff while the BRICS countries are its main shareholders. So, BRICS seems to be modelled on the G7 and G20 which likewise started in an informal way and whose main focus is the summits which are organised by member countries in rotation. These associations are thus different in structure from institutions like the EU, UN and Commonwealth who do have a permanent staff and secretariat. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:52, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• It’s a separate institution, but it’s controlled by the BRICS countries, which have voting power and appoint its president on a rotational basis. UN organisations operate in the exactly same way. IMF Executive Board is not elected by the UN General Assembly, but it doesn’t mean the IMF is not a UN organisation.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 22:39, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support on notability, oppose on quality per above. The Kip 06:44, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Strongest possible support - As I promised 126 days ago. BRICS is a highly notable international organisation, especially in times like these. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 10:04, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality Very little in the article about the actual expansion. Nigej (talk) 10:44, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Steamboat Willie in the public domain

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Steamboat Willie (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Steamboat Willie, the first appearance of Mickey Mouse, enters the public domain. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Steamboat Willie, the first appearance of Mickey Mouse, enters the public domain in the United States.
News source(s): The Guardian, CNN, AP
Credits:

• Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Obviously, this should not be posted until Jan 1 ticks over. The article does need sourcing improvement before it can be posted, but it does have a section dedicated to this copyright aspect, which has been one of those things that copyright experts have been anticipating for years and the fact Disney did not try to extend its copyright (though there's other protections around this). --Masem (t) 16:47, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

• Stand in line WP:TFP has been planning and working on this for some time and so should get first crack at it. Maybe ITN can blurb it after that. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:33, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
  • If TFP will be hosting this on Jan 1, then that absolutely makes sense to leave it there and not duplicate to ITN. — Masem (t) 20:27, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support once ready/once POTD is posted. I can't think of a film more historic and ground-breaking than this. The fact that Disney does not prevent this film from entering public domain is also pretty surprising, as normally, film studios try to keep their films copyrighted for as long as possible. Definitely an ITN event (also given that notable media talks about this) in my eyes. - CDE34RFV (talk) 17:37, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Let the POTD folks do it first. Afterwards, would be happy to support. qw3rty 18:23, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose This isn't "news" in the sense of what ITN posts. The update to the article in the copyright section is minimal. It is also unclear to me from that section whether or not Disney's use of Steamboat Willie as a logo is allowing them to extend copyright, or why they didn't try. POTD is perfect for this case (assuming it really does enter public domain). – Muboshgu (talk) 19:29, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
  • They remain to have the trademark on the Steamboat Willie version of Mickey, but they no longer have copyright after Jan. 1. This is very clear from the sources. — Masem (t) 20:26, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

    I imagine I'm not the only person who is unclear on the difference between trademark and copyright, and SchroCat's point below further hardens my oppose. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:43, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose. I think I’m right in saying that it’s not been in copyright in some other jurisdictions for a while, and it coming out in one territory is hardly news. - SchroCat (talk) 19:34, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose another "hook" news story. Every year a lot of stuff goes into the public domain in different countries. This specific example has been talked about a fair amount because of Disney's lobbying for the 1998 Copyright Term Extension Act. But it is not "news". 217.180.228.138 (talk) 20:56, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose per all above. _-_Alsor (talk) 22:46, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose This isn't news. It's something that was always going to happen. HiLo48 (talk) 01:14, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

  So are solar and lunar eclipses (which are ITNR) not newsworthy because it's something that was always going to happen. — Knightoftheswords 01:29, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

  Solar and lunar eclipses really aren't newsworthy, IMHO. HiLo48 (talk) 01:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

  Hear, hear. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:50, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose. Not news now, has been known for some time. We're already featuring it at POTD which is quite sufficient.  — Amakuru (talk) 02:14, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

December 31

Portal:Current events/2023 December 31

December 31, 2023 (2023-12-31) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Red Sea crisis Attacks on the MV Maersk Hangzhou Ten Houthi militants are killed during an engagement between four Houthi boats and United States Navy helicopters defending the cargo ship Maersk Hangzhou in the Red Sea. (Al Jazeera) Russian invasion of Ukraine Bombing of Kharkiv Russian forces bombard Kharkiv. Ukrainian authorities say that 26 people were injured and many residential buildings in the city center were destroyed. The Ukrainian Air Force reports shooting down 21 of 49 attacking drones. (tagesschau.de) (tagesschau.de 2) Afghan conflict Taliban defense minister Mullah Yaqoob says that security forces have killed or arrested several militants from Tajikistan and Pakistan who are accused of multiple attacks in Afghanistan. (AP) Law and crime Cologne Cathedral bomb plot In Bochum, NRW, Germany, police arrest a fifth suspect in relation to a car bombing at Cologne Cathedral which Islamic State – Khorasan Province had planned for today. (DW) Politics and elections 2023 Democratic Republic of the Congo general election President Félix Tshisekedi is declared the winner of the general election. (BBC News) Abdication of Margrethe II Eighty-three-year old Margrethe II of Denmark announces her abdication during her televised New Year's Eve address, effective January 14. (BBC News)

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RD: Shecky Greene

Article: Shecky Greene (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Chicago Tribune
Credits:

• Nominated by 240D:1A:4B5:2800:203B:1879:83D1:C29B (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American comedian. 240D:1A:4B5:2800:203B:1879:83D1:C29B (talk) 06:30, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Decent chunk of unreferenced material and some poor sources as well. The Kip 07:07, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Melissa Hoskins

Article: Melissa Hoskins (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-01/melissa-hoskins-rohan-dennis-crash-reaction/103276588
Credits:

• Nominated by HiLo48 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Australian track and road racing cyclist, allegedly killed by her husband, Rohan Dennis, another Australian road racing cyclist. HiLo48 (talk) 03:37, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Weak oppose Results section needs more refs, but the rest of the article is in great shape. The Kip 07:02, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Benjamin Kiplagat

Article: Benjamin Kiplagat (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP
Credits:

• Nominated by Knightoftheswords281 (talk · give credit)
• Created by Pietaster (talk · give credit)
• Updated by 197.185.96.200 (talk · give credit), Skycloud86 (talk · give credit), Iffy (talk · give credit), Simeon (talk · give credit) and 71.244.100.11 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Ugandan olympian who was fatally stabbed today. — Knightoftheswords 21:01, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Blurb? Three times he represented Uganda on the world's greatest steeplechase stage, now he's stabbed to death in his brother's car while in Kenya. Who stabbed him? We don't know. Why was he in Kenya? We don't know. Did he not have his own car? Exactly. It's not much at the moment, informationwise. But investigationally, the game is clearly afoot (wait for it). Of course, I hear a certain subset of regulars out there, and yes, he was neither the next Nelson Mandela nor another Gordie Howe. Nobody's saying he was. Death itself is the end-of-year story here. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:24, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Not Ready Article quality is quite poor. Oppose burb on merits. Subject's death is tragic but his significance is nowhere near the level that would justify a blurb. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:47, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

RD: Cale Yarborough

Article: Cale Yarborough (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Nascar9919 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Longtime racing driver, particularly in NASCAR. Won three consecutive NASCAR Cup Series championships in the late 1970s, a feat that was seen as remarkable at the time. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 20:06, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Support: It is one of the greats NASCAR drivers and a Hall of Famer in the sport Meganinja202 (talk) 02:19, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Needs work on citations.—Bagumba (talk) 02:38, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Abdication of Margrethe II of Denmark

Article: Margrethe II (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Margrethe II announces her upcoming abdication as Queen of Denmark on 14 January 2024. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Margrethe II (pictured) announces her upcoming abdication as Queen of Denmark on 14 January 2024 after 52 years of reigning.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Margrethe II (pictured) announces her upcoming abdication as Queen of Denmark on 14 January 2024 after 52 years of reigning.
News source(s): NRK BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Chaotic Enby (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Abdication of a royal head of state. While the change itself (in two weeks) will also be newsworthy, the announcement was made today. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 17:28, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support Very historical event, and as far as I recall we usually do post royal abdications. The question is whether we post it now, or on 14 January 2024. I don't know what would be most correct. I have also changed the date format to be "14 January 2024" as this style is more common for international events. Gust Justice (talk) 17:48, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose on article quality for the usual reason. Conditional on article improvement will support once the abdication becomes official. The succession is what we normally blurb. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:00, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose Given how near the actual event will be, we can wait until that date, at which point a successor should be known. Add in the article quality issued discussed above. --Masem (t) 18:04, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

  Her successor is known since 1972. _-_Alsor (talk) 18:13, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support seems quite notable. 2A02:908:676:E640:7830:DBEE:B63:525E (talk) 18:07, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality, support on notability. Is a historic event for the country as it is also the first abdication of a Danish monarch since 1146. From a Queen who reigned for more than 50 years I look forward to reading a longer and more detailed article. In addition, there are unsourced paras and lines. I don't think we will have to wait until 14 January, because on that day we can blurb Frederik's accession to the throne in the same way as we did with Juan Carlos I of Spain and Prince Felipe in 2014. _-_Alsor (talk) 18:27, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Wait. Definitely notable enough (Margrethe's abdication would leave Europe without a female monarch in a damn long while), but it's in a mere 2 weeks time when Frederik becomes King. Posting it now would take unnecessary space in the ITN field and posting it twice would be even more senseless. As for quality, I also believe it needs some kind of refurbishment, though we could say that in every ITN candidate post, so it's nothing new. Add some more details, some sources, maybe more about the abdication, and we're good in my eyes. - CDE34RFV (talk) 18:30, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support blurb. Very notable, change of longest reigning monarch in Europe. Kirill C1 (talk) 19:18, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support of course. Abdication of a monarch is very notable (not to mention that she’s been ruling for 52 years).--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 19:39, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support per above TomMasterReal^TALK 19:51, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support - Definitely for ITN. Historic announcement.BabbaQ (talk) 20:09, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Wait Until 14 January, then post. Curbon7 (talk) 20:24, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support for posting, neutral on whether to post it now or on the 14th. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 20:26, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Conditional support pending orange tag resolving. Better to post now than wait for successor when the news will be stale. Brandmeister^talk 21:00, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

  This isn't a change in prime minister. We have known who her successor is for 52 years. There will be a royal succession in 14 days, hardly something that can be considered stale. Curbon7 (talk) 22:25, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support- If orange tag is dealt with. Thriley (talk) 22:20, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Wait until the date of her abdication, and include her successor as a combined blurb (change of head of state). Natg 19 (talk) 23:35, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Wait until the 14th when the actual change takes place. Canuck^{89 (Converse with me) or visit my user page} 03:15, January 1, 2024 (UTC)
• Support but Wait. Very notable but wait until that day happens. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 04:26, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
• The update is currently two sentences in the lead and two substantially identical ones in the body (in their own section); and one of each of those is redundant to the blurb. That's insufficient. There's more information in this discussion than there is in the article. Waiting until the abdication's effective will give us time to get the article properly in shape. —Cryptic 04:42, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
  • If we bold Abdication of Margrethe II instead, it's much closer to postable quality. —Cryptic 07:41, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

    Theoretically the bolded article at ascension would be Frederik, Crown Prince of Denmark (as Frederick X), which also needs some work. Curbon7 (talk) 07:47, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Wait until 1/14 when she officially abdicates, and post with the accession of (what will be) Frederik X. The Kip 06:46, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
• Wait until she actually abdicates. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 09:02, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
• Wait until the abdication occurs. --Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 09:13, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support but Wait. Significant event, but wait till 14 January. – PrinceofPunjab (talk) 09:34, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Eddie Bernice Johnson

Article: Eddie Bernice Johnson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): MetroNews
Credits:

• Nominated by Chaotic Enby (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Member of the US House of Representatives. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 16:53, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support once ready. Apart from a missing electoral history, the article looks good. - CDE34RFV (talk) 19:17, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

  Electoral history sections using {{Election box}} are optional, as theoretically it would be covered in the prose. Curbon7 (talk) 20:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

RD: John Pilger

Article: John Pilger (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by 240D:1A:4B5:2800:400C:3CCF:54FC:F39A (talk · give credit)

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Australian journalist and documentary filmmaker. 240D:1A:4B5:2800:400C:3CCF:54FC:F39A (talk) 13:11, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support, very influential person in many social disciplines 15:36, 31 December 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oneequalsequalsone (talk • contribs)
• Support - Sourced and ready.BabbaQ (talk) 16:29, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose: Clean up tags remain in the "Views" section, and the "Documentaries and career" section include unsourced paragraphs. --NoonIcarus (talk) 20:15, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

December 30

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December 30, 2023 (2023-12-30) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russo-Ukrainian War Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine 30 December 2023 Belgorod shelling Ukraine launches drone and missile strikes against the city of Belgorod, Russia, killing 25 people, and injuring 110 others, according to the Russian Defense Ministry. (AP) (BBC News) Russian invasion of Ukraine Bombing of Kharkiv Russian forces attack Kharkiv with missiles, injuring at least 16 people, including a foreign journalist, and damaging civilian infrastructure. (The Kyiv Independent) Attacks on U.S. bases in Iraq and Syria Four Hezbollah members and two other militants are killed by three airstrikes at Syria's border with Iraq. (AP) Israel–Hamas war The Israel Defense Forces says that dozens of militants have been killed in Gaza amid continued tank and aerial assaults on Khan Yunis. (Times of Israel) Disasters and accidents 2023 South Africa floods Flash flooding kills 21 people in KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa. (ABC News) Three people are killed and three are injured in a house explosion in Northfield Township, Michigan, United States. (NBC News) Law and crime Corruption in Albania A court in Albania orders that former president and prime minister Sali Berisha be placed under house arrest following accusations of corruption. (Reuters) Science and technology Google settles a $5 billion privacy lawsuit alleging that it spied on users using "incognito" mode in its Chrome browser, misleading users by implying their internet activities would not be tracked, while advertising technologies continued to collect information. (ABC News)

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RD: Tom Wilkinson

Article: Tom Wilkinson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by The Herald (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Highly acclaimed British actor of film, television, and stage. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 17:24, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

• Regrettable oppose On quality of course. Career section needs refs and his filmography needs additional sources. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 23:56, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Question. Can we have a photo RD? Kirill C1 (talk) 19:19, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

No. Stephen 22:55, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

(Closed) Tony Hudgell

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Article: Tony Hudgell (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Nine-year-old Tony Hudgell becomes the youngest ever person to be awarded the British Empire Medal. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Mjroots (talk · give credit)
• Created by Tabletop123 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Necrothesp (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Mjroots (talk) 09:15, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support. Tragic story and article is of good quality. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 Stupid stuff I did 09:42, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose These types of "firsts" are better covered by DYK, not ITN. --Masem (t) 13:01, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
  • Ineligible for DYK. Mjroots (talk) 13:15, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
    • Unfortunately, that's true. This is why I think we should have DYK be open to nominations there of articles where something interesting has just happened that is reported in the news but not the type of story that is good for ITN. — Masem (t) 14:54, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
      • The article appeared on DYK on 28 August 2022. See talk page. JennyOz (talk) 15:16, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose not ITN-worthy. Anecdotal and not much more. _-_Alsor (talk) 14:19, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Is this even the UK's highest civilian award? It shows up pretty low on Template:Orders, decorations, and medals of the United Kingdom, though the higher ones all seem to be military in nature. —Cryptic 17:47, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
  • Highest UK civilian award is the George Cross. Mjroots (talk) 18:57, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose I note that this piece of trivia ("youngest ever") isn’t even mentioned in the article. Schwede66 17:56, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Now added. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:31, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Schwede66, the double amputation isn't trivial, is it? I suspect that an age of nine years makes Hudgell the youngest BEM recipient by a long way. But I'm not sure if that information has been published or how to check. It's not included at British Empire Medal. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:36, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

• Strong Oppose the bolded article would have to be 2024 New Year Honours. Which happen every year and are never blurbed. This is a run-of-the-mill event, and not world-important news. The "hook" of "it's a nine-year-old amputee" is a "hook"; which is what DYK does and ITN does not do. 217.180.228.138 (talk) 20:54, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

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RD: Gil de Ferran

Article: Gil de Ferran (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Autoweek
Credits:

• Nominated by 240D:1A:4B5:2800:6909:F19:8772:5F70 (talk · give credit)

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French-born Brazilian racing driver. 240D:1A:4B5:2800:6909:F19:8772:5F70 (talk) 03:54, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

This article has multiple unsourced sections. They should probably be improved before posting. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 04:01, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Willing to support when unsourced claims have been taken care of.BabbaQ (talk) 14:30, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

December 29

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December 29, 2023 (2023-12-29) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Russian strikes against infrastructure 29 December 2023 Russian strikes on Ukraine Russia launches the largest wave of drones and missiles on Ukrainian cities since the start of the war in a widespread overnight assault across the country, killing at least 39 people and injuring at least 160 others. (AP) (Ukrainian Pravda) One of the Russian cruise missiles enters NATO airspace as it travels over Polish territory, prompting the Polish government to summon the Russian charge d'affaires for an explanation. (Reuters) (Bloomberg) Mexican drug war Six people are killed and 26 others are injured in a mass shooting at a party in Ciudad Obregón, Sonora, Mexico. The shooting's target, a cartel member, is among those killed. (AP) Disasters and accidents 2023 Africa floods At least 20 people are killed by landslides caused by torrential rains in Mwenga, South Kivu, Democratic Republic of the Congo. (AP) Around 120 people are rescued from a breakaway ice floe on Upper Red Lake near Bemidji, Minnesota, United States. (CNN) International relations Foreign relations of Argentina Argentine president Javier Milei sends a letter to BRICS, rejecting the bloc's invitation for Argentina to join it. (La Nación) (BBC News) Law and crime Capital punishment in Iran, Iran–Israel proxy conflict Four people are executed by hanging in West Azerbaijan province, Iran, after being convicted of links to Israel's Mossad spy agency. (Al Jazeera) International reactions to the Israel–Hamas war, Israel–South Africa relations South Africa files a genocide case against Israel at the International Court of Justice. (Reuters) Politics and elections The National People's Congress of China appoints Commander of the People's Liberation Army Navy Dong Jun as Minister of National Defense, succeeding Li Shangfu. (CNA)

RD: Maurice Hines

Article: Maurice Hines (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NBC News
Credits:

• Nominated by 240D:1A:4B5:2800:203B:1879:83D1:C29B (talk · give credit)

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American actor, singer and choreographer. 240D:1A:4B5:2800:203B:1879:83D1:C29B (talk) 04:46, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Article is in poor shape ref-wise. The Kip 06:59, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Joey Meyer

Article: Joey Meyer (basketball) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): DePaul
Credits:

• Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk · give credit)

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American basketball coach--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:33, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Multiple CN tags. The Kip 06:54, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Gustavo Cisneros

Article: Gustavo Cisneros (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by NoonIcarus (talk · give credit)

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Venezuelan businessman and media magnate. NoonIcarus (talk) 03:21, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose Multiple CN tags, several woefully under-cited sections, and one wholly-uncited one. The Kip 06:51, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Michael Hardie Boys

Article: Michael Hardie Boys (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Radio New Zealand
Credits:

• Nominated by Schwede66 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Paora (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Former Governor-General of New Zealand. Some sourcing needs to improve. Schwede66 05:06, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Update: I've added some content and everything that's there is now referenced. It could be expanded, but it's good to go in its current form. Schwede66 05:42, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Oppose Virtually nothing is said about his five-year term as Governor General beyond dates, a controversy and his twice appointments as Knight. _-_Alsor (talk) 00:37, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

December 28

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December 28, 2023 (2023-12-28) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Southern Ukraine campaign Greek-owned cargo ship Vyssos travelling to Ukraine hits a Russian naval mine in the Black Sea, injuring three crew members, Ukraine says. (BBC News) (Xinhua) Mexican drug war La Familia Michoacana drug cartel kidnap 14 people from Texcaltitlán, state of Mexico, in retaliation for a previous incident in which 10 cartel members were killed by residents of the town. (AP) Disasters and accidents At least 13 people are killed when a bus catches fire after colliding head-on with a truck on a highway in Guna district, Madhya Pradesh, India. (India Today) At least 10 people are killed and 57 others are injured in a multiple-vehicle collision on motorway Otoyol 7 in Sakarya Province, Turkey. (AP via New Haven Register) International relations Bulgaria and Romania reach an agreement with Austria to become members of the Schengen Area through sea and air routes in March, with discussions regarding the opening of land borders scheduled to begin next year. (AFP via Le Monde) Law and crime Capital punishment in Qatar A court in Qatar reduces the sentences of eight retired Indian Navy officers who had been sentenced to death for spying. (AP) Gypsy Rose Blanchard, a victim of her mother's Munchausen syndrome by proxy, is released early from prison after serving seven years of a ten-year sentence for conspiring to murder her mother Dee Dee Blanchard in the U.S. state of Missouri in 2015. (BBC News) Politics and elections 2024 United States presidential election Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign, 2024 presidential eligibility of Donald Trump Former President Donald Trump is returned to the primary ballot in Colorado, after the Colorado Republican Party appealed Trump's removal under the 14th Amendment earlier this month. Separately, Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows removes Trump from the state's primary ballot under the 14th Amendment. (CBS) (AP)

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(Ready) RD: Per Myrberg

Article: Per Myrberg (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1], [2]
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by BabbaQ (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

• Support Seems to be fully sourced and of adequate length. The Kip 07:10, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Mbongeni Ngema

Article: Mbongeni Ngema (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, SABC
Credits:

• Nominated by 240D:1A:4B5:2800:794F:2A2F:5B15:170 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Bobbyshabangu (talk · give credit) and Laterthanyouthink (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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South African musician and playwright. 240D:1A:4B5:2800:794F:2A2F:5B15:170 (talk) 21:32, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

I have just upgraded this article significantly, although it could always do with more. Page view up from nearly zero to over 20,000 on the 27th nearly 40,000 on the 28th. (Not sure how these days are calculated - which time zone?) Laterthanyouthink (talk) 07:44, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support - widely covered, notable, high page views, article quality now okay, close to fully cited. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 14:23, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose - still uncited tags and an unreferenced section. Nigej (talk) 20:21, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

  I've just cited the last few outstanding things, and hidden a couple of uncited for later checking. It's ready to go and it is timely as he has just died. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 23:16, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support now fully sourced and ready.BabbaQ (talk) 18:05, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 00:15, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Vijayakanth

Article: Vijayakanth (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Livemint
Credits:

• Nominated by Rsrikanth05 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Sunuraju (talk · give credit), Abishe (talk · give credit), Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit), Kalpanasundar (talk · give credit) and Kelisi (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Procedural support | Meets requirements. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 06:21, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Support The subject is very much covered by various news outlets and media channels. The article has been well sourced and there are around two Citation tags to be amended. Abishe (talk) 06:50, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose Several cn tags and an unsourced section. Article's tone such as some of the wording used makes the article a bit unencyclopedic. Support Article has improved. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 23:49, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Support The subject is very much covered by various news channels.Thousands of people at his funeral and major figure in Tamil Nadu Politics.Article is well written.Errors are being fixed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8F8:1473:923D:B107:CA3E:5C7E:54AE (talk) 17:06, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Oppose Three orange tags and, more generally, many missing citations across the article. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 17:50, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Oppose Largely unsourced and much work required to get it the to required state. Nigej (talk) 20:18, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

• Comment @TDKR Chicago 101,@ Chaotic Enby,@ Nigej I have added more references to the articles and cleared the concerns with regards to orange tags and citation tags. I hope it is much better now to take a look at it. Abishe (talk) 05:23, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Support now Much improved article. Good decision to remove uncited honours secton. Nigej (talk) 09:30, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Posted Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 04:43, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

December 27

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December 27, 2023 (2023-12-27) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Russian strikes against infrastructure Russian drone and artillery strikes kill at least five people and cause power outages for around 70% of households in Kherson, according to Kherson governor Oleksandr Prokudin. (AP) Business and economy Renewable energy in Colombia Colombia approves regulations that encourage local communities and indigenous groups to produce energy using renewable sources and sell the energy to the national grid. (BBC News) Thousands of union members and activists in Argentina protest a decree from President Javier Milei imposing deregulation and austerity measures meant to revive the country's economy. (AP) Disasters and accidents Death of Ana Clara Benevides A forensics report by Rio de Janeiro's Forensic Medical Institute in Brazil finds that hyperthermia led to cardiorespiratory arrest that killed Swiftie Benevides. It says she did not have preexisting conditions or substance abuse that could have led to her death. (Reuters) At least 10 people are killed by thunderstorms and strong winds in the eastern Australian states of Queensland and Victoria. (ABC News Australia) A Hellenic Air Force T-2 Buckeye trainer jet crashes in a rural area near Kalamata, Greece, killing the pilot. (AP)

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RD: Herb Kohl

Article: Herb Kohl (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

It needs work. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:46, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support. Article looks alright for me and Kohl's notable enough to deserve a post. Support in principle, Oppose on quality - CDE34RFV (talk) 12:42 & 20:42, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose Two unsourced sections and some cn tags. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 12:55, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support Added some refs. While the committee assignments section still needs refs, I believe it is uncontroversial enough that it shouldn't be an obstacle to posting. Davey2116 (talk) 06:37, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support per Davey2116. I believe it should be ready to post now. - CDE34RFV (talk) 11:40, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support Looks good to post.BabbaQ (talk) 16:15, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Comment There's an orange tag at Herb Kohl § Committee assignments. Per WP:ITNUPDATE:

  Articles that are subject to serious issues, as indicated by 'orange'- or 'red'-level tags at either the article level or within any section, may not be accepted for an emboldened link.

  —Bagumba (talk) 02:44, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Gaston Glock

Article: Gaston Glock (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by Johndavies837 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Inventor of the Glock pistol. Johndavies837 (talk) 23:21, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support Article is brief but adequate. No issues. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:24, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support per Ad Orientem as the brand itself is iconic (through news, TV, videogames, films and music videos), moreso than its founder. SpacedFarmer (talk) 12:28, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support Article looks good. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 12:53, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support blurb Pivotal figure for polymer pistols. Koltinn (talk) 23:34, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 22:23, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

(Closed: Pulled blurb, posted RD) RD/Blurb: Jacques Delors

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Article: Jacques Delors (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Former President of the European Commission Jacques Delors (pictured) dies at the age of 98. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, The Independent
Credits:

• Nominated by Carhles (talk · give credit)

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Eighth president of the EU, Minister of Finance in France, led the Delors Committee – Carhles (talk) 17:38, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support - one cn as far as I can see, but otherwise looks fine. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 18:28, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• blurb? Delors is a figure worthy of blurb. Being executive president of an international organization such as the EU, and having a fundamental role in monetary integration with the euro and the future of the EU are reasons that, IMO, are sufficient for a blurb. _-_Alsor (talk) 21:09, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support and I also think a blurb should be considered, he had a profound impact on recent European history. Yakikaki (talk) 21:12, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support as per above. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 22:52, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• Not Ready Referencing is in poor shape. This is going to need some work before it can be posted. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:29, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

  @Ad Orientem: Fixed. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 12:50, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support blurb in principle, oppose on quality He basically invented the Euro, so I think he passes the significance test. Quality of article is poor though. NorthernFalcon (talk) 04:27, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  @NorthernFalcon: Article's quality such as sourcing has been fixed. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 12:51, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb on principle, as I think we should abolish them entirely except for assassinations, murders, &cThis post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 06:32, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support blurb as he played a key role in the transition from the European Economic Community to the European Union.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 09:16, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Article now adequately sourced--Ipigott (talk) 11:07, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb as not as important as e.g. a world leader, which is the standard ITN requires currently to have a blurb for their death. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:14, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support: Blurb should simply read "Former president of the European Commission". Have firmed up referencing problems.--Ipigott (talk) 12:26, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support blurb Important figure in the EU, influential figure in EU-politics and the article's quality is not bad. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 12:52, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support blurb Well done to everyone who helped fix the article. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:45, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Posting. Update the picture when ready. --Tone 16:02, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Post-posting oppose blurb While ready for RD, the article does not have any significant details of what his influence was beyond a lede and a body sentence. There appears to be sources that would be able to build out a paragraph or three to better explain this, but without it, a blurb was definitely undue at this time. --Masem (t) 17:27, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  The “President of the European Commission” section looks like a good summary of his work, with more details about his achievements available on Delors Commission. I don’t know if any further expansion is really needed per WP:SPINOFF when the main article is linked immediately below the section’s title.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 17:58, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

• Post-posting oppose blurb I oppose posting any RD as a blurb where the death itself isn't a big story. We should only blurb deaths if the reaction is like David Bowie-level, or where the death itself is the story, like a military strike or assassination. I believe that the death should be transformational, rather than focusing on the life. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:51, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Pull, what a coup! Bureaucrat who reached 98% of 100 years of age and doesn't meet any of the extremely loose requirements for a blurb posted. Insufficient debate time allotted. Abductive (reasoning) 18:00, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  What would you propose as sufficient debate time?—Bagumba (talk) 02:57, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

  More than 1 day. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 09:04, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

• Post-posting support although I completely understand the objections such as Muboshgu's above. In the end, we either stop posting RDs as blurbs completely, or we end up having these arguments about how notable these people are. We've got it wrong a lot of times now. Black Kite (talk) 18:17, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  We sure have. And I do respect the view that led to posting this as a blurb and don't expect it to be pulled. Seems he had an impactful life. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:51, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

• Post-posting support, important person who meets the blurb requirements. Sahaib (talk) 18:46, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• One half sentence of relevant, non-redundant prose update. Objectively does not meet WP:ITNCRIT. Posting this was negligent and no admin should have considered it. Pull. —Cryptic 18:51, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Pull blurb per above This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 18:57, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Pull Blurb per Cryptic. DarkSide830 (talk) 19:50, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  In addition, I have serious issues about the prose size for an article about a supposedly transformative figure in global politics. Delors's article has under 1,000 words of prose outside of the lede and textboxes. Heck, I think most sports articles for moderately important sportspeople are longer. And for having such an important role in the creation of the Eurozone, the paragraph in question that discusses how Delors contributed thereto is all of MAYBE five sentences long, and that's being generous. Yikes. DarkSide830 (talk) 08:07, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

• Pull He was sleeping at home. That's all the update adds. He could have cured cancer in the '90s and it wouldn't change the non-storiness of this supposedly big story. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:20, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Pull Posted absurdly fast (less than 24h) later without strong consensus re: blurb. WP:ITNRDBLURB is fairly clear that posting a blurb for a “major figure” requires a thorough discussion to establish consensus, and suggests that the RD post is adequate during such time. There is no reason for the blurb to be posted so quickly. Kcmastrpc (talk) 21:50, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  Posted absurdly fast (less than 24h)...: It was posted after 22+ hrs. —Bagumba (talk) 03:01, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

  I'm not sure what you're getting at... but

  • Oppose blurb His timely death is nothing more than a timely death. Does his passing meet the threshold of coverage we normally require when taking a highly coveted spot on ITN? Personally, I don't think so.

  Kcmastrpc (talk) 14:31, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

  I'm not sure what you're getting at... You said posting after less than 24 hours was "absurd". I stated it was posted at 22+ hours. So I guess that ~2 hour difference made it "absurd" for you?—Bagumba (talk) 18:23, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

  Is there something wrong with that? Kcmastrpc (talk) 18:34, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

• Pulled and dropped down to RD - Given the above comments and clear lack of current consensus for a blurb at this time. No cricitism of the initial decision, as there was an initial support for a blurb, but with comments since the posting there is a clear absence of consensus. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 22:18, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb An influential EU leader, yes, but does not meet the exceptional requirements for a blurb. RD is sufficient. Pawnkingthree (talk) 23:15, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb Per others above Centuries123 (talk) 06:08, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose pulling As I previously stated, I don't think we should be pulling blurbs except in egregious cases of quality issues. There was consensus at the time of posting, so let it just be. We're posting too little anyway. Khuft (talk) 13:30, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb Per above. Doesn't make the grade. Nigej (talk) 20:16, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose pulling I agree with Khuft. If there are no quality issues to require pulling, then I think we should leave it up. I remember the same thing happened with John Lewis a few years back; in both cases pulling an already-posted death blurb just seems odd. Davey2116 (talk) 06:37, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

  The issue is a lack of a substantial text update, which is not a direct violation of, but runs contrary to what is generally desired under WP:ITNUPDATE. This is, effectively, a quality issue as it related to ITN. DarkSide830 (talk) 07:53, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Support blurb. Influential figure, fixture in European politics. Kirill C1 (talk) 09:02, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support blurb Hugely influential figure in the development and formation of the modern EU. It's not a perfect analogy, but pulling his blurb probably the equivalent (in US terms) to pulling the blurb on a former president (or even Kissinger). - SchroCat (talk) 12:01, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

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(RD posted) RD/Blurb: Wolfgang Schäuble

Article: Wolfgang Schäuble (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Deutsche Welle
Credits:

• Nominated by Marco polo (talk · give credit)

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German cabinet minister in many governments, longest-serving parliamentarian in German history, negotiator of German reunification and euro crisis – Marco polo (talk) 15:28, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

That sound like a blurb. Key figure in German politics in last forty years.

More than 100 references (119 as of now). Is it enough for posting RD at least? Kirill C1 (talk) 17:13, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

The truth is that he was a figure that was important beyond the German borders, as he was "director" of the European management of the economic crisis from 2008 onwards, affecting the countries of southern Europe (and negatively affecting his reputation). I think a blurb may be, perhaps, worthy of discussion. In any case, there are lines and paras that have no sources and should be fixed. _-_Alsor (talk) 21:14, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Chiming in here to also support the idea of a blurb. Another very important European politician to pass away recently. Yakikaki (talk) 21:18, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Passed away recently, but a couple of years after he'd left active political importance. There's no need to replace him, as there is for, say, Rotimi Akeredolu. There might be some real intrigue/shakeup in that case (and similar ones). InedibleHulk (talk) 22:59, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

If he was that important, it is not clear immediately from the article. It needs something like a Legacy or Impact section (perhaps tied to the Recognitions section) to explain this in detail. There may be bits and pieces buried in other sections, but we should have something that makes it very clear to the reader why we're drawing special attention to this person. (I also feel the quality is on the weaker side for a blurb). Masem (t) 12:53, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

• Not Ready A handful of CN tags but also an orange neutrality tag that definitely has to be handled before this could be posted. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:37, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

  Support RD Much improved. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:32, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb on quality per Ad Orientem. On notability, however, at least RD. Schäuble was one of, if not the most influential non-ruling post-war politician in Germany. Being Minister of the Interior during German reunification and Finance Minister during Europe's biggest economical crisis says a lot about his influence not just in Germany, but also in Europe (as Marco Polo and Alsor already said). In addition to being a trailblazer for physically disabled politicians in Germany, I, as a German, can confirm that Schäuble was generally well-liked and highly regarded across party/ideological lines. As such, the news of his demise were met with dismay not just from politicians, but also from the people in general. - CDE34RFV (talk) 12:38, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  By now Support Blurb. Article looks good and no tags left. Maybe I'm biased, but if Delors gets blurbed, then Schäuble deserves it as well. - CDE34RFV (talk) 20:14, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  Delors got pulled from the blurb since. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 11:49, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

  Everyone is presumed notable enough for RD by default. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 11:48, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

• Weak oppose on article's quality. The controversy section has two tags. I've been told before that controversy sections are a bit tricky in terms for the article's quality and that removing the section altogether wasn't a bad idea. Not sure what others think?

  Schäuble was involved in the CDU donations scandal and lost influence. Should be in the Controversies section. Also his role in the EU debt crisis concerning Greece. The rest should be removed. Grimes2 (talk) 13:10, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  Be that is it may, the section has two tags with some issues in terms of neutrality. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 13:45, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  I've rewritten the section. Two small subsections left over. I've removed also the two orange tags. Grimes2 (talk) 16:40, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  Support RD looks good. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 16:57, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support RD per TDKR Chicago 101. Grimes2 (talk) 17:03, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support RD as well. Article is fine. Support blurb too, if the discussion turns that way, but let's already post it as RD. Khuft (talk) 13:32, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support RD / Oppose Blurb Clearly meets threshold for RD, but doesn't rise to the level of blurb, even though he was a key figure in regional/national politics. Kcmastrpc (talk) 14:36, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

  Everyone who has article meets threshold for RD. Kirill C1 (talk) 09:04, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support blurb Definitely a transformative figure in the history of Germany, as well as the eurozone as a whole. Davey2116 (talk) 06:37, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb. No doubt an important figure within German politics. But there are 195 particular countries out there and reading through the article I struggle to see even the alleged massive role that Schäuble played in the EU besides the article seeming to state a lot that he was playing "hardball [sic]". DarkSide830 (talk) 07:58, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

  But Germany is the country whose politics influences other countries. Kirill C1 (talk) 09:24, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

  Same can be said for 194 other countries. DarkSide830 (talk) 20:26, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

• @Admins willing to post ITN: Is this RD ready? BangJan1999 17:00, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Posted as RD – Schwede66 17:24, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

RD: Ghali Umar Na'Abba

Article: Ghali Umar Na'Abba (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Channels TV, Peoples Gazette
Credits:

• Nominated by Ammarpad (talk · give credit)

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Former Speaker, Nigerian lower chamber. Article needs some cleanup. – Ammarpad (talk) 11:36, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Procedural oppose | Nigerian pols seem to be dropping like flies today This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 06:34, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose We don't hold up posting RDs because too many people from one country die too close together. We pause because articles are not properly referenced, as is the case here. Schwede66 02:47, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Rotimi Akeredolu

Article: Rotimi Akeredolu (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Hausa, The Cable
Credits:

• Nominated by Gwanki (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Aromicati (talk · give credit), EPTUNES (talk · give credit), AbdulOlu (talk · give credit) and Benbaahi (talk · give credit)

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Incumbent governor of Ondo State Additional references, Channelstv, Premium times Gwanki (talk) 10:38, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support Just one CN tag. I think it's passable for ITN. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:39, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support I "took care of" that dubious claim. Still a little left for nitpickers to fix, grammarwise. Was thinking a blurb might be in order earlier, but no longer. The new governor seems to have known this moment was coming for a good while, and the transition went smoothly. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:01, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Posted – Schwede66 02:45, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Lee Sun-kyun

Article: Lee Sun-kyun (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters, The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Sunuraju (talk · give credit) and NelsonLee20042020 (talk · give credit)

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Sad story. Some citation issues but it seems that it's almost there. Onegreatjoke (talk) 05:27, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

There is an unsourced claim in the 2007-2012 section. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 06:20, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

I added that CN; can't find any English-language sources to confirm that Lee was appointed ambassador for the Health Insurance Review Agency in 2007, and won an award from the Korea Advertisers Association in 2008. Maybe there is something in Korean. Funcrunch (talk) 06:50, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

I’m going to be bold and remove that sentence, since I haven’t been able to find any sources that mention the appointment or specific reward, and it is only one sentence. There is possibly a source for it though so if it is found it should be added back in. Dantus21 (talk) 02:03, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Support though issues needs resolving first. Mainly as he was one of the stars of one of Korea's best known film. SpacedFarmer (talk) 12:31, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Support There are some issues in the article but most of the it seems decently cited. There is a merge proposal but imo that shouldn’t block an RD listing since that’s more technical and not related to any content issues. Dantus21 (talk) 02:00, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Support per nom --NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 12:30, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Support - very notable, and the article is decent enough. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 06:15, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Support now that the article appears suitably referenced. Funcrunch (talk) 22:20, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Support article is ready, very notable and tragic death which hopefully will get to RD soon. Flip^andFlopped ツ 23:25, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

• Posted – Schwede66 02:36, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

December 26

Portal:Current events/2023 December 26

December 26, 2023 (2023-12-26) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Eastern Ukraine campaign Battle of Marinka Ukraine's commander-in-chief Valerii Zaluzhnyi confirms the loss of the city of Marinka to Russian forces. (BBC News) (The New York Times) Crimea attacks The Russian Ropucha-class landing ship Novocherkassk is destroyed by a Ukrainian airstrike in Feodosia, Crimea, killing at least one person and injuring four others. (Al Jazeera) (AP) Herder–farmer conflicts in Nigeria Nigerian bandit conflict 2023 Plateau State massacres Armed bandits kill about 140 people in Plateau State, Nigeria. Many houses are burned down. (AP) Israel–Hamas war Red Sea crisis A drone launched from the direction of the Red Sea is shot down near the Egyptian resort town of Dahab, according to the Egyptian military. The drone fell into the sea with no casualties or damage reported. (Reuters) Iraqi conflict Islamic State insurgency in Iraq Two men from Kuwait and Saudi Arabia on a hunting trip in Iraq are killed when their vehicle hits a roadside bomb planted by Islamic State insurgents in Al Anbar Governorate. (AP) Business and economy Daihatsu, a subsidiary of Japanese automaker Toyota, suspends all production at its four factories in Japan amid a transport ministry investigation into improper tests for safety certifications. (AP) The administration of Argentina's new president Javier Milei says the government will not renew contracts for more than 5,000 employees hired this year before he took office, as part of plans for cutbacks to the government. (AP) Disasters and accidents 2023 Africa floods Twenty-two people are killed by floods in Kasaï-Central, Democratic Republic of the Congo. Several houses and structures are damaged, with a major road being cut off. (AP) At least 40 people are killed during the explosion of a gas tanker in Totota, Liberia. (Al Jazeera) A fire at a guest house in Prahova, Romania leaves six people dead, two others injured, and several others missing. (Euronews) (AP) International relations Nuclear program of Iran The International Atomic Energy Agency says that Iran has reversed a slowdown of its enrichment of uranium, and is now enriching uranium at up to 60%, bringing the country closer to reaching the enrichment level required to make a nuclear weapon. (Reuters) Law and crime Fukushima nuclear accident The Tokyo High Court rules that TEPCO, the operator of the Fukushima nuclear power plant, will be solely responsible for compensating evacuees and reduced the amount to half the amount a lower court initially ordered, while also absolving the government of any liability. (AP) A man is arrested in Sevres, Île-de-France, France, for killing his four children and their Haitian mother at their flat in Meaux the day before. (AP) Sports 2023–24 NBA season In basketball, the Detroit Pistons lose their 27th consecutive game and break the single-season record for the most consecutive losses in a National Basketball Association regular season, surpassing the records set by the 2010–11 Cleveland Cavaliers and 2013–14 Philadelphia 76ers, who both lost 26 straight games. (The Detroit News)

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(Ready) RD: Tony Oxley

Article: Tony Oxley (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Free Jazz Collective,The Guardian
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Martinevans123 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by AMCKen (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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British free jazz drummer. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:04, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Do all albums which already have their own article also need refs? Martinevans123 (talk) 16:29, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Everything else is now sourced? Martinevans123 (talk) 09:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support Good article quality. --NoonIcarus (talk) 17:05, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support - looks good to go.--BabbaQ (talk) 18:04, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Comment The subsections under Tony Oxley § As guest are only lightly sourced.—Bagumba (talk) 03:32, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

  Do all albums which already have their own article also need refs? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:41, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

  WP:CIRCULAR reads:

  Content from a Wikipedia article is not considered reliable unless it is backed up by citing reliable sources. Confirm that these sources support the content, then use them directly

  —Bagumba (talk) 11:51, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

  All 30 albums which are linked in that section have reliable sources, most of them multiple sources. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:01, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

  However when I look at Vade Mecum the only mention of Oxley is an another uncited section. Nigej (talk) 12:29, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

  So someone has to go to Vade Mecum and explicitly link the credits page of the existing AllMusic source to Oxley's name? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:33, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

  Note that per WP:ALLMUSIC, there's no consensus that it's reliable. —Bagumba (talk) 12:37, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

  I give up. It's quite alarming that anyone might think Oxley did not play on all of those albums. The degree of effort that seems to be required here, to in some way "prove" he did, just so his name appears on the Main page, for maybe a day or two, doesn't really seem justified. Especially when it's a one-person effort. I've avoided discogs.com as it's not considered reliable (although in my experience it's 99.9% reliable), but I had assumed that AllMusic was somehow better than useless. Perhaps I should just denominate. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:49, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

  Alternatively uncited information can be deleted/removed. Is it fundamental to the article? Nigej (talk) 15:05, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

  I'd say the catalogue of a musician's records was pretty fundamental to that artist. But a separate Discography article could be created. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:13, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• :::::::: I agree with the nominator here. Clearly this is an article ready to be posted.BabbaQ (talk) 14:33, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Tom Smothers

Article: Tom Smothers (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by TheCorriynial (talk · give credit)

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Half of the Smothers Brothers, a popular comedy duo of the 60's. Hosted a very popular tv show in the 1960s, The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, where many acts of the time appeared on, including The Who's imfamous drum explosion caused by Keith Moon. Was also one of the many there in 1969 who sang on Give Peace a Chance at Lennon's Bed-in in Montreal. Article will likely need some editing to pass though. TheCorriynial (talk) 17:10, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

He was a rare anti-war voice on television in the 1960s. His show was eventually cancelled for their opposition to the Vietnam War. Ahseaton (talk) 04:26, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

RD: David Kernan

Article: David Kernan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Twitter, Deadline.com
Credits:

• Nominated by Chaotic Enby (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Manipulative Maniac (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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English actor and singer, death announced through his official Twitter account. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 15:41, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• The Television and Filmography sections are currently unsourced. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 17:54, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

RD: Lukas Enembe

Article: Lukas Enembe (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4] https://www.thejakartapost.com/indonesia/2023/12/28/riot-breaks-out-during-former-papua-governors-funeral.html
Credits:

• Nominated by Juxlos (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Faldi00 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Former Governor of Papua in Indonesia. Juxlos (talk) 07:12, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

(Posted) Plateau State massacres

Article: 2023 Plateau State massacres (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ More than 140 people are killed in a series of massacres across Plateau State, Nigeria, believed to be linked to the ongoing bandit conflict. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Nigeria, bandits kill about 140 people in Plateau State.
News source(s): ABC News Guardian (Nigeria) Daily Telegraph (UK)
Credits:

• Nominated by Sheila1988 (talk · give credit)
• Created by Lukt64 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Gwanki (talk · give credit)

Article updated

• Major escalation in Nigerian bandit conflict. Significant as farmer-herder and Christian-Muslim conflicts intensify in the Sahel. Very high death toll. Sheila1988 (talk) 22:11, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Was about to nominate this. Conditional support due to quality. — Knightoftheswords 22:14, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Support due to high quality Lukt64 (talk) 00:58, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Conditional support when it's no longer a stub. That is what is meant by quality, Lukt64. We don't post stubs. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:29, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Wait until quality improves --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 06:16, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Support on significance, Oppose on quality currently. AryKun (talk) 07:21, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support on significance, hold until quality improves This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 07:37, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support looks good enough to me. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:24, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support on significance at least. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 11:27, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

● Support as per above. Rager7 (talk) 17:12, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Support - quality looks fine to me. No tags, everything cited to RSes. No longer a stub, now start class. Significance criteria easily met. Levivich (talk) 17:17, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• admin comment Despite what some editors above say, this article is still a stub. Information that is contained in the lead is missing from the body. If someone invests half an hour into expansion and tidy up, this could be ready. Schwede66 17:32, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

  Schwede66 I think I've managed to clean the article up decently, it should be gtg now. AryKun (talk) 20:47, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

  That there are only two sentences about the event, and 50% is just background, I feel more can be done here. --Masem (t) 22:38, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support altblurb - this is clearly important enough to post & the article is of sufficient quality. X2023X (talk) 01:09, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support. Very significant. Article is in a decent shape and looks ready. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 03:54, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Posted – Schwede66 04:00, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• I lack familiarity with the conflict in question, so I do not want my suppositions to be taken too seriously, but is the use of the term "bandit" here compliant with WP:NPOV (particularly in the context of the main page)? I know it could just be a case of a false cognate tripping me up, but the term comes off as quite sensationalist to me. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 02:28, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

The perpetrators of the Nigerian bandit conflict are usually referred to as bandits. X2023X (talk) 16:41, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

December 25

Portal:Current events/2023 December 25

December 25, 2023 (2023-12-25) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Myanmar civil war Operation 1027 The Ta'ang National Liberation Army of the Three Brotherhood Alliance captures the town of Mantong in northern Shan State. (The Irrawaddy) Syrian civil war Iran–Israel conflict during the Syrian civil war High-ranking Iranian general Sayyed Razi Mousavi is killed in an Israeli airstrike in Syria. (BBC News) New People's Army rebellion Nine New People's Army rebels are killed by the Philippine Armed Forces during clashes near Malaybalay, Bukidnon, amid a unilateral truce declared by the communist rebels. (AFP via SCMP) Turkish–Kurdish conflict Twenty-six Kurdish separatist militants and eight civilians are killed by airstrikes launched by Turkey in the autonomous region of Rojava in Syria. (AP) War in Sudan Local leaders and government officials in eastern Sudan call on the general population to mobilize and prepare for potential Rapid Support Forces attacks. The Sudanese Armed Forces is reportedly arming civilians amid fears that they will not be able to stop the militia. (Sudan Tribune) Disasters and accidents Two people are killed and 29 others are injured in a fire at a residential building in Seoul, South Korea. (Xinhua via The Star) Law and crime Sri Lankan President Ranil Wickremesinghe grants amnesty to more than 1,000 convicts and releases them from jails across the country to mark Christmas. (Al Jazeera)

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RD: Bill Granger

Article: Bill Granger (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-27/chef-bill-granger-dies-aged-54-on-christmas-day/103266588
Credits:

• Nominated by HiLo48 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Australian chef and food writer who operated restaurants across the world, including in Australia, Japan, South Korea and the UK

Support, after citations are added for TV shows. He was apparently very well known. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 06:20, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

• Bill Granger#Media work could use more sourcing. --PFHLai (talk) 17:45, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

(Closed) Christmas in Ukraine

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Article: Christmas in Ukraine (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Christmas in Ukraine (pictured) is officially celebrated on 25 December for the first time in over a century. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ For the first time in over a century, Christmas in Ukraine is officially celebrated on 25 December, where before it had been celebrated on 7 January.
Alternative blurb II: ​ For the first time in over a century, Christmas in Ukraine is officially celebrated on 25 December, following decision of the local Orthodox Church and legislation of the Verkhovna Rada.
News source(s): BBC, Al Jazeera, NYT, France 24, Reuters, NPR, Hindustan Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Amitchell125 (talk · give credit)

Article updated

The other main page sections are running Christmas-themed topics today and so it would be good for ITN to run a Christmas story too. This one seems reasonably historic. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:43, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

• Weak oppose This should have been nominated and posted when the reform was approved: either on 24 May 2023, when the Orthodox Church of Ukraine officially approved the date or on 28 July 2023 when President Zelensky signed the law confirming the new date, according to our article. The current blurb sounds as if the decision came out of the blue. Brandmeister^talk 10:20, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

• It would have been too crystal back then. And it's in the news now because it's happening now. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:34, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
• I've added an altblurb to make the context of the date change more clear. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 11:03, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

• Added altblurb 2 for some clarity. Brandmeister^talk 11:28, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support on notability, and the article is of reasonable quality. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 10:58, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Support on notability. But there are two Orthodox Churches in Ukraine, so I would probably omit the "following decision of the local Orthodox Church" part. Kirill C1 (talk) 13:47, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose while other sections can tailor content to holidays, news happens when it happens, and we should not just promote stories that we would not normally promote. Here, just the move of the date of the celebration is not sufficient to post. --Masem (t) 14:17, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

  It's in the news, see [5] and other outlets. Kirill C1 (talk) 15:01, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

  Just being reported in the news is not sufficient for posting. The simple change of a holiday date would not be posted as ITN. Masem (t) 16:52, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support Per above, in a typically slow news cycle, this seems like a notable event that is in the news and the article is of sufficient quality. Would be nice if we could post this today. Kcmastrpc (talk) 14:46, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support ALT2 per above. TwistedAxe [contact] 15:19, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose on notability not a good idea to get a celebration of a holiday on ITN. Any country can have their first celebration at of a holiday. --Jiaminglimjm (talk) 16:26, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

  But it's Christmas! Kirill C1 (talk) 21:11, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Support - In The News, relevant to public interest surrounding Christmas. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 18:39, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support per nom, this is historic and timely. -- Tavix ^(talk) 18:45, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Oppose as old news It should've been nominated in July, when parliament approved the new law and Zelensky signed it. Now it's more suitable for DYK. Johndavies837 (talk) 18:49, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

But there are always arguments "We should wait till it actually happens". Kirill C1 (talk) 21:12, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Oppose as non-notable. Interesting, but not notable for ITN. Natg 19 (talk) 19:39, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support. Very interesting. Article looks good and the fact that it's celebrated in the country for the first time in over a century makes it very notable. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 23:15, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support per above. Davey2116 (talk) 23:41, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
• oppose - covered by ongoing, the split in the churches being a part of the war, and beyond that trivial nableezy - 23:46, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose. Not that significant in the grand scheme of things, and also as noted above the change itself happened much earlier in the year.  — Amakuru (talk) 00:47, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
• Weak Oppose It's getting some coverage but the quality of that coverage is not great. This is just part of a fairly complicated subject involving a major schism within Orthodox Christianity in Ukraine. There are at least three major groups claiming to be the legitimate Orthodox jurisdiction in Ukraine, two of which are recognized by differing autocephalous churches. And this doesn't count all of the splinter groups including so called True Orthodox etc or the UGCC which is aligned with the Roman Catholic Church. At least one of the main churches and all of the smaller Old Calendarist jurisdictions still use the Julian Calendar. To say that the religious situation in Ukraine is byzantine (pun intended) would be an understatement, and almost none of the mainstream press media sources have more than a slight clue. I'm Orthodox and routinely reach for the Tylenol whenever the subject of the church in Ukraine comes up. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:06, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
• Strong oppose All blurbs are misleading as they fail to illustrate the main point. Ukrainian authorities didn’t explicitly change the date of Christmas to 25 December but just made 7 January to be a regular working day (note that Ukraine is a secular state, so the authorities cannot interfere in the freedom of religion). That’s it. Some Ukrainians celebrate it on 25 December, while others do it on 7 January. It’s a matter of personal choice.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 06:40, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
  • It seems they did. The law signed by Zelensky did move the Christmas date from 7 January to 25 December, while the day before the Ukrainian Orthodox Church adopted the revised Julian calendar that currently coincides with the Gregorian calendar (meaning Christmas would be observed on 25 December). Brandmeister^talk 11:36, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
    • That's exactly what I said. They shifted the non-working day from 7 January to 25 December. This means that religious people who observe Christmas on 7 January now need to take a day off from work to celebrate. Other than that, there's absolutely no significance in this change. I agree that Ukrainian Orthodox Church's decision to adopt the revised Julian calendar was much more notable, but it happened five months ago and it's nowhere mentioned in the suggested blurbs.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 12:49, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

• It is significant change, it signals cultural and religious shift towards West. Kirill C1 (talk) 13:58, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

• I disagree. I come from a European NATO member state where the local Orthodox church, which is neither the Russian nor the Serbian, uses the Julian calendar and we observe Christmas on 7 January. I don’t see how that makes me less pro-Western or more pro-Russian. Our authorities have resolved this in a very elegant way—25 December is a non-working day for those adhering to a church that uses either the Gregorian or the revised Julian calendar, and 7 January is a non-working day for those adhering to a church that uses the Julian calendar.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 17:12, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose Interesting but a footnote in the ongoing war (from which this derives its significance). Gotitbro (talk) 15:05, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose it's a PR stunt that has no long lasting significance compared to most other things in the war. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:45, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose What the other main page sections do has nothing to do with newsworthiness. I just don't see the significance of this story; government holidays get moved all the time, and if there's major religious significance to this it's quite unclear what that might be. Vanamonde (Talk) 18:52, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose I cannot imagine that this would have even been nominated if it had occured in any other eastern European nation. This nom is here because of the war. But it doesn't mention the war. It's a bit dishonest, and not hugely significant for the country. HiLo48 (talk) 21:53, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose per above Shadow4dark (talk) 04:35, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose per HiLo48 Elisecars727 (talk) 06:41, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

(Posted) RD: Henry Sandon

Article: Henry Sandon (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Daily Telegraph, The Guardian
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Blythwood (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit), AMCKen (talk · give credit), CountessCobra (talk · give credit) and Martinevans123 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Ceramics historian. Seems basically complete. Blythwood (talk) 20:06, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support The article is good enough, but the DoB isn't sourced. It would be great if that could be fixed. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 21:26, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

  Source now added (The Daily Telegraph obit, as above, although subscription only). Martinevans123 (talk) 21:29, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support Properly sourced and meets requirements. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 21:40, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support Sourced well. Unknown-Tree🌲? (talk) 06:55, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 07:44, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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