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This page is for nominations to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page.

Instructions

Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination. Every approved hook will appear on the main page.

DYK criteria

Official criteria: DYK rules and additional guidelines Unofficial Guide: Learning DYK

How to list a new nomination

For a simplified version of these instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK.
For a step-by-step guide to filling out the {{NewDYKnom}} template, see Template:NewDYKnomination/guide.

Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

1. Nom without image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= }}
2. Nom with image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= | image= | caption= }}

   To include more than one new or expanded article in a single hook: |article2= |article3= |article4= | (etc)

   To include more than one author: |author2= |author3= | (etc)

   To include alternate hooks: |ALT1= |ALT2= | (etc)

   To add a comment: |comment=

   To add the article you reviewed: |reviewed=

Do not wikilink the article title, or the author username field; the template will wikilink them automatically. Do wikilink the article title in the hook field, however.
Do not add a section heading if you are using the template; the template will add one for you.
Do not include a signature (~~~~) after the template.
Do not use non-free images in your hook suggestion.

An example of how to use the template is given below. Don't forget to fill out the rollover text, so people know what the image is of! Full details are at {{NewDYKnom}}:

{{subst:NewDYKnom
 | article      = Example
 | status       = new<!--(or)  expanded (or) BLP expanded-->
 | hook         = ... that this [[article]] is an  '''[[example]]''' ''(pictured)''?
 | author       = User1
 | nominator    = User2
 | image        = Example.png
 | rollover     = An example image
 | alttext      = Description of the image
 | comment      =
 | reviewed     = Article you reviewed
 | revieweddiff = diff link to the article review
}}

• Note that you should only use one of the above templates for the original hook. If you want to suggest a second, alternative hook for the same article submission, just type it in manually. The above templates output useful code for each submission and if you employ them for alternative hooks, you will mess up the page formatting.
• When saving your suggestion, please add the name of the suggested article to your edit summary.
• Please check back for comments on your nomination. Responding to reasonable objections will help ensure that your article is listed.
• If you nominate someone else's article, you can use {{subst:DYKNom}} to notify them. Usage: {{subst:DYKNom|Article name}}
• If you have 5 or more self-nomination DYK credits, don't forget to review another editor's nomination, and link to the diff in your nomination.

How to review a nomination

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the additional rules.

If you want to confirm that an article is ready to be placed on a later update, or note that there is an issue with the article or hook, please use the following symbols to point the issues out:

Symbol	Code	DYK Ready?	Description
	{{subst:DYKtick}}	Yes	No problems, ready for DYK
	{{subst:DYKtickAGF}}	Yes	Article is ready for DYK, with a foreign-language or offline hook reference accepted in good faith
	{{subst:DYK?}}	Query	DYK eligibility requires that an issue be addressed. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
	{{subst:DYK?no}}	Maybe	DYK eligibility requires additional work. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
	{{subst:DYKno}}	No	Article is either completely ineligible, or else requires considerable work before becoming eligible

Please consider using {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page, in case they do not notice that there is an issue.

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Nominations

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on May 3

Tying of the iPhone to AT&T

• ... that when Apple initially released its iPhone in the U.S. on June 29, 2007, it was sold exclusively with AT&T, leading to tying of the iPhone to AT&T which forced users to purchase AT&T service plans?

Created by Dsayles08. Nominated by Jaobar (talk) 03:13, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• This article was created (as explained on its talk page) for a school project. I'm currently working on merging it into existing articles and it may be deleted in a week or so. The article, and the blurb, seem somewhat POVish as far as being against restrictive policies. If you do use it, I've made some wording changes, primarily to correct U.S.-centricism. HereToHelp ^{(talk to me)} 04:23, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• As noted on the talk page for this article, the iPhone page has been tagged as being too lengthy already. That, coupled with the fact that this article addresses a major telecommunication policy issue that has wide-reaching implications suggests that it should stand alone. Jaobar (talk) 16:55, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that when Apple released its iPhone in the U.S. in June 2007, it was tied to AT&T, i.e. users were forced to purchase AT&T service plans?

I'm trying to come up with a smoother reading hook here to keep this one moving along. Schwede66 01:50, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

• ALT2 ... that when the Apple iPhone was released in the U.S. it was tied to AT&T, forcing users to purchase AT&T service plans? - (for punch and clarity) - Dravecky (talk) 06:37, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

• Agree that this is a POV fork relating to facts that are (and can be) covered elsewhere more appropriately. Suggest withdrawing the DYK nom. ^Bongo_matic 06:45, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 5

Rod Thornton

• ... that a paper by the academic Rod Thornton was censored for criticising the arrest of a student who borrowed a copy of an Al-Qaeda training manual from his University library?

Created by Francium12 (talk). Self nom at 16:07, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

• Just reviewed St Andrew's School, Pangbourne. Not sure how to show the 'diff' - but I did!  Francium12  16:15, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

length and date OK, references check out, but the hook fact is not is not in the article. i.e. "al-Queada training manual" is not mentioned. SpinningSpark 08:53, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• • Doh! Just added and provided a ref. On further reading he downloaded it for his dissertation but it was in the library! Change to ... that a paper by the academic Rod Thornton was censored for criticising the arrest of a student who downloaded an Al-Quaeda training manual available from his University library?  Francium12  09:39, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• The Guardian ref says "Thornton writes that the al-Qaida manual which led to the arrests is now stocked in the university's library" which at least implies that it was not in the library at the time of arrest, and in any event does not entirely verify the hook. I will take it on good faith if you say the offline Thornton ref is more definite on this point, but if the Guardian is accurately reporting Thornton then the hook is wrong. You also need to decide if your spelling is going to be al-Qaeda or al-Qaida SpinningSpark 10:44, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• I found an online version of Thornton's paper and have added it to the refs for the article. Reading both the Guardian article and Thornton's article, it is clear that the student used a university computer to download the Al-Qaeda training manual from a US Department of Justice web site, so the hook needs to be rewritten (as well as part of the article). So, pending changes to the article to better reflect the sources, how about this ALT hook
  ALT1:...that a paper by the academic Rod Thornton was censored for criticising the UK's arrest of a student who downloaded a copy of an Al-Qaeda training manual from a US government web site? OCNative (talk) 04:21, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• That sounds fine as a hook, but the article does not currently agree with it. SpinningSpark 17:36, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Colmar - Meyenheim Air Base

• ... that in just over two years in World War II, Régiment de Chasse 01/030 Normandie - Niémen destroyed 273 enemy aircraft and received the awards from both the French Légion d’Honneur and the Soviet Order of the Red Banner?

Created by DeltaQuad (talk). Self nom at 01:36, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Bolded the topic for this one and wikilinked. Also supplied the "?" for the hook. However, there are two redlinks at intro of article. Either remove the redlinks or provide the pages for those two please. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:21, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Incorrect. There is no rule against redlinks in the nominated article. Manxruler (talk) 07:20, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Sorry the bold was just from the article itself not on purpose...and there is not a redlink in the nom, why is the article required not to have them? (If it is a rule) -- DQ (t) (e) 11:36, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Bolding of the nominated article is required. What is not correct is AnakngAraw's claim that redlinks in the article itself are undesirable. Redlinks don't belong in the hook, but in the article they're all good. Manxruler (talk) 15:00, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Then are we good to go? -- DQ (t) (e) 17:23, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Not really. I don't understand the hook (which I have just copy-edited for typos). How can an air base destroy 273 aircraft? Airbases don't usually destroy aircraft. And this airbase wasn't even in existence in 1943-45. Who actually shot down the 273 aircraft, and what does it have to do with the base? Manxruler (talk) 18:06, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Just reread my source (since I did this six months ago), it was the unit that helped with the closing of the base. ajusted entry. -- DQ (t) (e) 19:14, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

• Yes. I saw that you had been working on this article for quite some time in your user space, which is of course perfectly well. The problem here is that the hook you are promoting, is not at all about this air base, but about the Normandie-Niemen squadron, which already has its own article. There's no way this hook can be used. Manxruler (talk) 22:18, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

• Ok, sounds ok, thanks for the help though. -- DQ (t) (e) 23:43, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. There's still some time, if you'd like to come up with a different hook. Manxruler (talk) 00:06, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

• Article says "The actual construction of the Colmar - Meyenheim Air Base began in 1951," and adds this base was active in WWII, used by the Free French. Wikimapia for the same location says "French Air Force Base 132 (Base aérienne 132), home to fighter squadron 1/30 "Alsace" and fighter squadron 2/30 "Normandie Niemen", created in 1943 for Free French pilots flying against the Germans in Russia." I am confused by the difference in construction date, start of war and disagreement with other source. Ellin Beltz (talk) 16:19, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

• Comment What the article says, rather confusingly, is that one of the units later associated with the base was active the Second World War. Most of the "History" section is actually about said unit, and not about the base. Manxruler (talk) 11:33, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 6

Women in Northern Cyprus

Four female folk dancers in Northern Cyprus adorned with gold accessories and pink-colored costumes

• ... that among female Northern Cypriots (pictured) in 2010, only seven had ever held high-level positions in the Parliament of Northern Cyprus?

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 02:54, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed the article: Lumír Ondřej Hanuš - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:07, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• ALT 1: that since 2010, there had only been seven women in Northern Cyprus (pictured) who became high-level members of the Parliament of Northern Cyprus? - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:55, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Somebody marked the source for the hook as unreliable besides I could not find a confirmation in the source that supports the hook.--Mbz1 (talk) 04:12, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

• Suggesting ALT 2: ... that Gönül Başaran Erönen is the first female justice of the Supreme Court in Cyprus? - AnakngAraw (talk) 13:38, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

• Comment Alt 2 is verified, but I am still do not feel comfortable to promote the article with unreliable source for another information. Maybe somebody more experienced than I am could take a look.Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 21:59, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Hmm... I agree with Mbz1 that the essay is not reliable; the source notes that it is not NPOV. However, there is also a lack of research in this area apparently. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:50, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Women in Laos

• ... that in Lao Buddhism, the women of Laos (pictured) are taught that they can only attain nirvana after they have been reborn as men?

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 02:54, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Length, hook, and source all check out. All that needs to be done now is a review of another article. --Starstriker7^(Talk) 03:17, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• (edit conflict) A have a few issues with this article. [source 1] looks like a blog and there are two sections (Marriage/Sexuality) that have only one sentence. --Guerillero | My Talk 03:22, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed the article: Colmar - Meyenheim Air Base - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:28, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Yeah, you have a point. I didn't catch it as a blog earlier. However, the two sections that have only one sentence don't seem to conflict with DYK requirements; the overall article size still checks out, as do the newness and hook items. --Starstriker7^(Talk) 03:30, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• I was able to address the ref issue for the hook by replacing it with this book. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:39, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Replaced the blog ref with the Lonely Planet book from which it was based on or copied from. Found it from googlebooks. Ref is now valid source for whole article. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:49, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Alrighty then. With that issue resolved, this looks good to go for real. --Starstriker7^(Talk) 05:11, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• - The picture does not picture "women of Laos," it pictures one woman. I have no problem with this moving forward without the image, however, I express reservations of promoting it with an incorrectly labeled picture. BelloWello (talk) 21:43, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Replaced the image with two "women from Laos" from Commons. - AnakngAraw (talk) 22:17, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Rollover captions changed as well. - AnakngAraw (talk) 22:18, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for prompt attention. Probably unnecessary since the chance of it being featured as the image is slim, but something that caught my attention anyway. BelloWello (talk) 22:25, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

<- I'm not convinced it's a good hook. Obviously there's a difference between the cultural belief system/traditions of Theravada Buddhism and being actively taught something by someone. I'm curious where these women of Laos are being actively taught that that they can only attain nirvana after they have been reborn as men. It seems to me a bit like saying that women of the U.S. are taught that they can only get to heaven if they go to church etc. I'm not sure that Lonely Planet is an appropriate source for sweeping statements like this. Sean.hoyland - talk 09:50, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

I have to agree with Sean that this is a fairly sweeping claim to rely on LP for. (Honestly, I barely trust LP to get me to local bars). Would it be possible to source this to a more academic work? This reservation aside, thanks for creating all these women of articles, AnakngAraw. It's a good area to look at and I look forward to seeing how they develop. -- Khazar (talk) 16:01, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

ALT1 "that although Laotian women are constitutionally equal to Laotian men, they generally receive less pay?" Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:59, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Though I think that hook's very likely to be true, I'm again wary of relying on Lonely Planet for those kinds of stats; I'm not sure it qualifies as a reliable source for demographic data. Is there a more academic, or govt., source we could reference? On a much pickier point, we might add a word like "generally" or "on average" in there.Khazar (talk) 18:32, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Fixed the generally part. Don't know anything about sources though. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:58, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 7

Bardhyl Ajeti

• ... that Bardhyl Ajeti, a journalist from Kosovo, was killed in drive-by shooting on June 28, 2005?

• Reviewed: 9th (Eastern and Home Counties) Parachute Battalion ([1])

Created by Antidiskriminator (talk). Self nom at 10:56, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Article is 1604 characters of readable prose but it was nominated a full 10 days after it was created, outside the normal window. - Dravecky (talk) 06:42, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Distributed backbone

• ... that a Distributed backbone is a backbone network that consists of a number of connectivity devices connected to a series of central connectivity devices?

Created by Bencst13 (talk). Nominated by Lsukari (talk) at 04:01, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Good work so far, but this article is too short, as it is at 1,089 characters. There's still time for you to expand it, though. Please get the article's prose sections up to 1,500 characters (headers and citations do not count toward the characters). Keep at it, and this will qualify when you add more info! OCNative (talk) 05:57, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• 10 days since nomination, and the article is still (just) short of the 1500B minimum readable prose length requirement. Sorry. Schwede66 01:36, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 8

Here We Go Again (Ray Charles song)

• ... that although Ray Charles and Nancy Sinatra solos of "Here We Go Again" made Billboard's Hot 100, Charles' 2004 duet with Norah Jones won 2 Grammy Awards but was the second Record of the Year not to?

• Reviewed: Depot Town

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 14:00, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Cites check out for the statement. I'd rework the hook to be "... that although Ray Charles and Nancy Sinatra solos of "Here We Go Again" made Billboard's Hot 100, Charles' 2004 duet with Norah Jones did not despite winning 2 Grammy Awards?" - the construction is odd with the "not to" at the end, and it's one too many facts shoved in a single sentence. --PresN 20:41, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• The second fact that you removed is the more important one. I would prefer ""... that although Ray Charles and Nancy Sinatra solos of "Here We Go Again" made Billboard's Hot 100, Charles' 2004 duet with Norah Jones became the second Grammy Record of the Year that did not?" Thoughts?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:10, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• What about (alt hook)"... that country music song "Here We Go Again", which Ray Charles made famous, has won the Grammy Record of the Year and has made various music charts worldwide but not the Billboard Hot Country Songs?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:21, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

High performance technology

• ... that high performance computing systems have shifted from supercomputing to computing clusters and grids?

Created by Ledraisel (talk). Nominated by Lsukari (talk) at 21:48, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date and hook all check out. Ready to go.  CrossTempleJay  talk 22:27, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Can we look at this again? The title is High performance technology so this should include advanced balsa modelling, quick cooking macaroni etc. And are we saying this is the first wikipedia article on "high performance computers"? I'm sure Ive seen somethuing on that subject here before. Can a 3rd party do a review please. Victuallers (talk) 15:08, 13 May 2011 (UTC) Yes, and the diagnosis is this article was a draft, unsuitable for the main page and unfit to its title, thus merged into high-performance computing. The only reasonable way to rescue this nom is 5x expand high-performance computing. Materialscientist (talk) 11:05, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Amina Bokhary controversy

• ... that the 2010 Amina Bokhary controversy provoked an uproar in Hong Kong for alleged preferential treatment for a member of a well-connected family?

• Note: Article was previously speedied and userified. It was then rewritten by Ohconfucius and was moved back to article space on 8 May.
• Reviewed: Steam devil ([2])

Created by Ohconfucius (talk). Nominated by Deryck Chan (talk) at 21:43, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, and sources all look good. My only question is that I had trouble referencing the specific claim of an uproar to a specific source. While clearly true, it's still a bit of a judgment call. One headline describes a "police uproar" but not a more general one. Another good solid fact is the survey on confidence in the judiciary. I wonder if you might cite a more concrete fact here, such as the number of people at a march, or a more direct quote from a news source. I apologize if that's a really pedantic concern to bring to such an already well-researched and well-constructed article; it's just that with a controversial subject like I want to make sure we get the hook right. -- Khazar (talk) 15:51, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
  • I've got a really bad Internet connection, so I will just post a couple of links – the first one is particularly straight to the point with the headline; the articles in the second link will provide a deeper insight, if needed:

    Dennis Chong (August 12, 2010), Furor over Bokhary `unhelpful'

    6 South China Morning Post articles. Let me know if your concerns are not sufficiently dealt with. –Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 16:09, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

    • Looks good to me. Sorry I missed that one on the first pass, and congrats on a nice article. -- Khazar (talk) 17:18, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
      • Thanks Khazar and Ohconfucius for meticulously going through the citations, and well done archiving copies of SCMP articles in the talk history! --Deryck C. 18:03, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
• Thanks to Deryck for the nomination. I have a small issue with the hook viz: I don't so much think the 'Amina Bokhary controversy' provoked an uproar, because it was the uproar itself; the legal judgement was the source of the uproar. Any ideas how to reword? --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 10:33, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
• ALT1:... that the Amina Bokhary controversy was an uproar caused by the alleged preferential treatment of a member of a well-connected family by the judicial system in Hong Kong? Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 15:28, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

A nominated article must be new. For purposes of DYK, a "new" article is no more than five days old, and may not consist of text spun off from a pre-existing article. This article is not new. It was created in January 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amina_Bokhary_controversy&limit=500&action=history. Then it got deleted last month http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amina_Bokhary_controversy&action=historysubmit&diff=426863147&oldid=426117315. It does not qualify as expansion since then. 61.18.170.162 (talk) 15:38, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

I'd like to respond by saying that DYK criteron D8 states "Five days old" means five days old in article space. Having been deleted and re-created (whatever means it was deleted from article space) means it's a new article. Of course, per rule D13, I'll leave the admins in charge of DYK to decide whether this article qualifies for DYK. --Deryck C. 21:42, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

It was userfied after being in a reasonable (at least well-referenced) state for almost a year. Then rewritten but not expanded. As this promotion have raised legitimate concerns at WT:DYK, I have returned it from the queues. Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

It seems a bit odd to me to count the date and characters of past speedy-deleted material instead of the article space's current state (no article, 0 chars immediately before their nomination). I'll admit I'm newish to DYK, though, so having voiced that, I'm glad to leave it to the experts. Khazar (talk) 00:51, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't observe either speedy nomination, speedy deletion, or a zero-char article. This is the version which was moved to the user space (no idea why it was moved). Materialscientist (talk) 03:37, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• For information: as explained above, it was speedied. --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 09:50, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

By zero-char, I only meant to say that it appears to me that the article space was empty before the article was moved over into it; of course there were more than zero chars in their user space, as with many DYK noms. It's clear that this is an unusual case, though, since chunks of the previous article were preserved in user space. You know the rules better than me, so I'm good with whatever. Khazar (talk) 17:17, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

The discussion about this article is getting rather unpleasant, and I'd very much like the trolling and personal attacks to end. I don't really care deeply if this gets a DYK or not, but as it seems to me that it qualifies by virtue of having been moved from userspace. The amount of apparently unreasonable and uncivil resistance makes me more inclined to fight hard for it. If there is any question specifically about the speedy, ask either Off2riorob (talk · contribs · count), who has been following this, or the deleting admin – JzG (talk · contribs · count). I cannot find the comment any more, but I read that it was apparently speedied on the response of an OTRS ticket. In any event, can we have a ruling please? --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 17:30, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

The article stood in the main space for almost a year in a referenced state (then userfied and moved back w/o expansion). Thus decline for technical reasons (and all the related controversies do not bring any positive contribution to this matter). Materialscientist (talk) 00:39, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

I think this case served as an important precedent, and its ruling should warrant an amendment to the DYK rules: "For purposes of DYK, a "new" article is no more than five days old, and may not consist of text spun off from a pre-existing or deleted article." --Deryck C. 13:12, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Working Girls' Vacation Society Historic District

• ... that the Working Girls' Vacation Society Historic District in rural Connecticut preserves a site where thousands of New York City women were given summer vacations during 1892 to 1945?

Created by Doncram (talk). Self nom at 22:19, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Looks good to go. Interesting fact. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 07:25, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

I'd be very happy if anyone would care to write a more fun hook. This blog picked up on a few hook-like factoids; i didn't want to straight copy theirs tho. --doncram 20:26, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

The name of the article by itself creates a pretty effective hook! :-) --Orlady (talk) 14:00, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Before this can be promoted, the hook needs formatting; insert relevant wikilinks, bold for the target article. You may find it easier to use this template for future nominations. Schwede66 22:58, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for commenting. Okay, I bolded the target article now. I am not keen on wikilinking "Connecticut" and other stuff not germane to the article; i just prefer not wikilinking in this hook. Maybe for a different/better hook. --doncram 03:03, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

• I have a minor concern with the wording of the hook. The concern is that National Register historic districts don't actually preserve anything. Accordingly, I suggest a minor rewording:

ALT1*... that the Working Girls' Vacation Society Historic District in rural Connecticut is a site where thousands of New York City women were given summer vacations during 1892 to 1945? --Orlady (talk) 17:12, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

ALT2 ... that in rural Connecticut, the effects of Working Girls' summer holidays are still felt today?

A bit more hooky, I think. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:37, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Mmm... The original one is far preferable, IMO. This one is getting into the territory of the kind of misleading hooks that draw criticism to DYK every year on April 1. --Orlady (talk) 05:13, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Hmm... personally, I don't mind a little misdirection every now and then. Some hooks need it, especially to reach a wider audience; my favourite thus far was this year at April Fools "... that Batman is half female?", which although misleading is completely true. If we were to write "... that Batman Province is half female" most readers would have left it alone. As for this particular hook, either way works with me... although I have an even more misleading one (just for fun, I agree that this one would probably get scathing replies if on the main page)

"... that in rural Connecticut the effects of working girls' summer holidays are still felt 50 years after they finished?"

But anyways, that's just me being being me I guess. Both hooks are agreeable to me. Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:08, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Hook is fixed and ready with ALT1. As humorous as ALT2 is, it's only humorous if you already know the context of the article. Out of context, it actually sounds kind of uninteresting and merely like a mild pun. In the interest of clearing backlogs, let's get it out with ALT1 (a great hook itself). PhantomPlugger (talk) 03:04, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I struck out ALT2. Let's get this in the queue! Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:59, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Uncle Yo

• ... that comedian Uncle Yo specializes in performing at geek events such as anime conventions?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 17:22, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• Note that the article was created in the sandbox and only now moved to the mainspace, so the (mainspace) creation date is indeed May 8. It is my understanding that this fulfills "creation" criteria.
• Reviewed #FCC v. AT&T Inc.

Date ok, squeaks in on length, but I agree with the references tag on the article that this does not yet appear to meet notability. Suggest adding significant third-party sources to demonstrate notability if possible. --Khazar (talk) 21:22, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

I disagree with the templates: majority of the refs are secondary sources that I believe demonstrate notability. A disagreement can be discussed on talk or at AfD, but till an AfD puts this nom on hold I'd like this not to hold up a DYK nom. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 00:03, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

My initial impression would be that only the two blog posts here would count as truly "secondary" sources, as the others appear to be press releases or announcements for where Uncle Yo will be appearing. I'm sorry to say I'm not convinced this meets the notability threshold for reliable secondary sources, and my understanding of the DYK guidelines is that an article that hasn't met the source policies isn't ready to be approved. The best I can say is that if another editor wants to give this approval, I won't block her/him. Or if you can find some more clean-cut examples of reliable secondary sources--or explain how these sources are--I'm game for reconsidering. Sorry I can't be more help. -- Khazar (talk) 00:15, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

I think a blog (interview) is used only for one of the nineteen footnotes. Almost all content is referenced with what I think are proper secondary sources - Anime News Network news portal or convention websites. I am open for further discussion of the reliability of the sources at WP:RSN, as mentioned on talk, but I'd hate for this article to be denied DYKing because we are discussing the sources (hence, I'd also welcome a quick AFD "trial by fire" discussion, which IIRC puts DYKs on hold). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 00:50, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

On hold for AfD discussion. This article appears to meet all other DYK criteria, and if it passes AfD, Piotrus is welcome to change my vote to "approve" without checking with me first; notability is my only concern here. -- Khazar (talk) 01:10, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Head Standard

• ... that the success of the Head Standard, the first modern downhill ski design, propelled Head to be the largest ski company in the world by the 1960s?

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 14:27, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

I think the image would be better if it was rotated, long-way up. But I don't know how to do this.

No, this image will never work at 100px, whichever orientation you choose. Schwede66 22:53, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Sorry, most of this page reads like a "personal reflection or essay", much along the lines of the source the information was taken from. The whole history of how Howard Head first failed and then succeeded belongs on his own page (which, by the way, is under-referenced). Perhaps you could focus on the ski itself – its development, sales, and success. Yoninah (talk) 19:45, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

YMMV, of course, but it seems this article is in keeping with similar articles, say Incandescent light bulb or Telegraphy. I will be expanding the second on competing products, but that won't effect the DYK section. Generally this should be taken to the talk page though. I can copy it over if you'd like. Maury Markowitz (talk) 19:53, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Great Anatolia Party

• ... that logo of the Great Anatolia Party of Turkey was consisted from a perforated drum and a leaping jaguar in the drum hole?

Created by Logom (talk). Self nom at 00:49, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

While an apparently notable subject, and sufficient in length and date, both the hook and article will need substantial grammatical cleanup to be ready for the front page. I'm sorry I can't help out more with this, Logom. I started in on the article but at times had difficulty determining the intention of the sentences. Since the given sources are in Turkish, I couldn't go to those either. Perhaps another bilingual editor could help this one? -- Khazar (talk) 04:01, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 9

Mark Edward

• ... that mentalist Mark Edward credits films such as 1947's Nightmare Alley as motivating him to work in the psychic entertainment area?

Created by Sgerbic (talk). Nominated by Krelnik (talk) at 23:43, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Length and date good... but we generally don't accept YouTube links as reliable sources due to possible copyright problems. Also, seems to be quite a few lists that could be turned into prose. Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:13, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

OZ Group

• ... that the wheel supplier for the Toyota Celica that brought Carlos Sainz his first WRC title in 1990 started out in a filling station near Venice just 19 years earlier?

Created by Danno uk (talk). Self nom at 21:38, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• edited to reduce overlinking Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 16:34, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

• All the citations are to the company website. Please find alternate references. I'm sure there must be news or magazine stories on an F1 wheel manufacturer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Regstuff (talk • contribs) 05:30, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
• You'd think so, and there may well be magazine articles, but I have looked for and not found anything online. Their "partners" websites do indeed confirm the partnerships but nothing more. Linking them would add nothing. If anyone else can find something, great, but frankly I'm at a loss. Even Italian wikipedia seems to cite solely blogs. danno 20:04, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 10

Poison affair of Palestinian schoolgirls

• ... that after hundreds of Palestinian schoolgirls came down with unexplained symptoms Yasser Arafat accused Israel in "planned and systematic crime" against Palestinian people?

• Reviewed: I have less than 5 DYK

Created by ברוקולי (talk). Self nom at 16:28, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

• The neutrality is disputed. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 01:27, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• I agree that this article has substantial POV problems. The story is written almost entirely from the POV of an Israeli think tank, the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs. There is unfortunately an ongoing and indeed increasing problem with the submission of POV articles from a certain political faction at this project, and I think we are going to have to start taking some steps to address this problem. Gatoclass (talk) 02:30, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

I think the actual problem is "an ongoing and indeed increasing problem with the spurious rejection of legitimate articles from a certain political faction at this project." Plot Spoiler (talk) 14:33, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• I wouldn't say it's sourced "almost entirely" to the JCPA, but the "Media reports" section and the absence of scholarly commentary are enough to disqualify the article. I did a cursory GBooks search for the purpose of establishing notability, and there appears to be more than enough material to cover the incident in a neutral fashion. There are psychology books discussing the incident in the context of other "hysterias"; there's that Psychiatric Quarterly source that is linked but not cited. But instead, we choose to make it about how the media hates Israel, oh no, and isn't it funny how this is sourced to self-published "reactions" from conservative think tanks like the Hudson Institute and the JCPA. Fix it up, please. It's okay, not every anti-Arab article has to be featured on the front page. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:42, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Arafat falsely accuses the Israelis of poisoning little Palestinian schoolgirls and now somehow this is an "anti-Arab" article? Enough of WP:IDONTLIKEIT for one day. Plot Spoiler (talk) 13:15, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

I propose an alternative. "Did you know that after Palestinian schoolgirls began fainting in 1983 in a case of mass hysteria, Israeli army officials falsely accused Palestinian leaders or poisoning their own people to spark an uprising?"99.120.1.227 (talk) 18:25, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

I have done a lot of work improving the prose and content of this article. An accurate summary (and an interesting one!) would be: "Did you know that in 1983 943 people -- most of them Palestinian girls -- from the West Bank were hospitalized in a fainting epidemic brought on by mass hysteria?"99.120.1.227 (talk) 19:29, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

• Note: Article is full-protected until May 30th. Qrsdogg (talk) 23:48, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 11

Kelly Cherry

Woman with short, dark hair facing right and wearing a light colored jacket over a darker shirt.

• ... that Kelly Cherry, author of We Can Still Be Friends, was named the Poet Laureate of Virginia in 2010?

Created by Ijil RHG (talk). Nominated by Patrickneil (talk) at 19:22, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• Sorry; not yet. The prose section contains fewer than 1500 characters. The lists are not included in the count. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:33, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• please explain what you mean? Ijil RHG (talk) 14:31, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• The article currently contains 1215 characters of prose. The minimum requirement for DYK is 1500 characters (see DYK rules). —Bruce1ee^talk 14:48, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Also, the picture is missing a copyright tag. —Bruce1ee^talk 11:01, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• these three photos were supplied by the person named in the article... can you help me to find the appropriate verification to click so the photos can remain with the article? thanks. Ijil RHG (talk) 14:31, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• There currently aren't any pictures in the article. The picture supplied with this nomination has since been deleted (see deletion log). —Bruce1ee^talk 14:48, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Bride-buying

• ... that bride-buying, a form of marriage of convenience, is an old tradition in India and China that is still practiced today?

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 00:37, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed: Carex riparia [3]. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:45, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• . Length, date and references verified. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 09:03, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Hm.. AnakngAraw, again, it is great that you started this topic, but you just scooped a top of it. The hook translates into "... that women are being mishandled in India and China?" - a slap to countries which are picked up only because the article is limited to them. I believe we need something more neutral. Materialscientist (talk) 04:38, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

You have a point. Thanks. I am then suggesting ALTs 1 and 2:

ALT 1: ... that bride-buying is an illegal industry of purchasing a bride to become property that can be resold or repurchased for reselling?

ALT 2: ... that bride-buying is an illegal trade of purchasing a bride and a form of marriage of convenience? - AnakngAraw (talk) 23:21, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

ALT 3 "... that bride-buying, although illegal, still takes place in some countries?" Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:25, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 12

Hermann Kasack, Die Stadt hinter dem Strom

• ... that Hermann Kasack's first novel Die Stadt hinter dem Strom, published in 1947, catapulted "his name into the literary limelight" and won the 1949 Fontane prize of Berlin?

• Comment: asking for patience, travelling with limited access to internet, going to expand and ref, will review.

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 17:42, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed: #Cartonema, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:45, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length, age of articles, and hook fact both check out. But how about :

ALT1 "... that Hermann Kasack's first novel Die Stadt hinter dem Strom, published in 1947, "catapult[ed] his name into the literary limelight" and won the 1949 Fontane prize of Berlin?"

since this is a slight modification of the original quote? Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:22, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

VXE-6

• ... that the first all-female crew to open up Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station was a Lockheed LC-130 crew of VXE-6 squadron (insignia pictured) in 1991?

• Reviewed: Rana Pratap Sagar dam ([4])

Created by DiverDave (talk). Self nom at 15:27, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• . Looks good to me. I've tweaked the hook to read "(insignia pictured)", rather than just "(pictured)" – I think it's clearer. --Stemonitis (talk) 06:40, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Dainton Connell

• ... that the bodyguard to the Pet Shop Boys was a leader of Arsenal FC's hooligan firm during the 1980s?

Created by Queeninbriefs (talk). Self nom at 13:47, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Eurovision Song Contest 2012

• ... that the Eurovision Song Contest 2012 will be hosted by Azerbaijan, after the country won the contest for the first time in 2011?

--BabbaQ (talk) 11:32, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Let's not use this hook on MainPage till the 2011 contest comes off ITN. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 14:33, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
• The 2011 contest is no longer on ITN. OCNative (talk) 12:30, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Battle of Byczyna / War of the Polish Succession (1587–1588)

Zamoyski at Byczyna

• ... that in the Battle of Byczyna, Chancellor and Hetman Jan Zamoyski of Poland-Lithuania took Maximilian III, Archduke of Austria prisoner, ending the brief War of the Polish Succession?

5x expanded by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 22:11, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• This a bit of a different beast for me, as this is the first time, I think, that I am submitting two DYKs in one hook. They are closely related, and built around much of the same content. I hope this is fine. In both cases we should see a 5x expansion. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 22:11, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
• Reviewed #Ghana Immigration Service

A substantial portion of the article expansion is non-attributed copy & paste from articles like Maximilian III, Archduke of Austria and Sigismund III Vasa. Renata (talk) 22:16, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

A small part of the background consists of reused content from those articles, yes: few sentences on the conflict were rewritten and referenced. Majority of the content is new. Either way, I don't see a problem. Also, in the future, would you be so kind as to follow the instructions of this page, visible in each edit box ("Notify nominator of any nomination problems with")? Thank you. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 01:36, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Rana Pratap Sagar Dam

• ... …that the Rana Pratap Sagar Dam (pictured) in India was built at a cost of Rs 4060 million including the power plant that was financed under the Colombo Plan to import equipment from Canada?

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 08:31, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Bride-buying.--Nvvchar. 09:13, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

No inline citation to support hook. DiverDave

• I have now included the relevant text as quote in the reference now fixed afresh and fixed it at the end of the hook text in the article. Even in the reference 3, at the end clicking on the red marked Jawharsagar {Rajasthan)... further expands the text.--Nvvchar. 01:00, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Gidleigh Park

• ... that Gidleigh Park was named the best restaurant in Britain in 2010 by the Sunday Times?

• Reviewed: Raymond V. Kirk

5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 00:02, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook all good to go. Cheers Khazar (talk) 05:52, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
  • Isn't this hook (and the article) a tad too promotional? Renata (talk) 22:20, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
    • Agreed. Perhaps ALT1: "... that Gidleigh Park currently has two stars in the Michelin Guide, despite head chef Ian Webber having no previous Michelin experience?"

Doesn't seem that much better though. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:08, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• How about adding this gorgeous image and using this hook:

• ALT2: ... that Gidleigh Park, a hotel-restaurant in Chagford, Devon, England, is located in a Tudor–style country house (pictured) set in 54 acres of gardens and woodlands? Yoninah (talk) 14:19, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• You're right, I hadn't thought of the promotional aspect. ALT2 is great, and thanks for adding the image to it. Miyagawa (talk) 14:24, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• ALT2 verified and good to go. Yoninah (talk) 14:57, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Roger Sutton

• ... that Roger Sutton might be the most important appointment of the year for the Government of New Zealand?

• Reviewed: Banksia candolleana (diff)
• Comment: I turned an existing redirect (to a different person) into an article.

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 20:19, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• I've now found a photo and have submitted it to OTRS. It came with a proviso, so I thought I'd await their approval before I add it here. Schwede66 00:34, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• 5x expansion verified. Date, length, hook ref all verified. Tweaked hook and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 16:34, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Charlie Brown and Franz Stigler story

• ... that during World War II a Luftwaffe pilot not only did not destroy the crippled United States Army Air Corps's plane, but safely escorted it to its way to England?

• Reviewed: Bill Thieben ([5])

Created by Mbz1 (talk) and Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 17:44, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• Way too much of the article is sourced to the Weekly World News, and the article includes claims that the other source, Snopes (according to RSN, questionably reliable in itself) states are false. Without any reliable sources, this cannot be published on the main page. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:22, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• being "reliable" in not one of DYK criteria, If you have a problem with the reliability of the sources please nominate it on deletion. Besides practically all information included in the article is supported by both sources, and now I added the third one byThe Miami Herald.--Mbz1 (talk) 20:02, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• Actually, being reliable IS one of the DYK criteria: Rule #4 in fact. The Herald article helps, but the other sources are extremely dubious, especially WWN.--Chimino (talk) 21:25, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• Chimino, I hope you'd agree that, if two unreliable sources repeat absolutely the same story as a reliable one, this story ought to be true? Besides is Snopes is so unreliable as it is presented there? According to wikipedia article " The site has been referenced by news media and other sites, including CNN,FOX news, MSNBC and Australia's ABC. Surely wikipedia could reference this site too, and now I added yet another source, an article by CTV News --Mbz1 (talk) 23:09, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

• FYI, I just removed the WWN and Snopes sources and then added some newspaper sources. Not quite a Featured Article yet, but problems with unreliable sourcing/unverifiability are now taken care of. Qrsdogg (talk) 00:22, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• . This is interesting and sufficiently well written and sourced story that deserves to be in DYK. Good work! Hodja Nasreddin (talk) 17:37, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh look, one of Mbz1's buddies pops up again to approve a severely flawed article. Fancy that. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:12, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed the changes to the article since my previous comment, and no, it still isn't suitable for the main page. If you write an article based on unreliable sources, then swap in the citations for reliable sources without changing any of the article text, you cannot now be said to have an article based on reliable sources. The article still contains statements that appear in none of the cited sources and that indeed were noted to be untrue even by Snopes, which was cited previously, such as the statement that Stigler was ordered to shoot down the Pub plane. I'd say this needs to be scrapped and rewritten from scratch, consulting only reliable sources. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:12, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Like in all such stories there are some discrepancies there between reliable sources. For example one source says that 3 engines of Brown's plane did not work, another source says 2 did not work. Even people who took part in the events are telling slightly different versions of the story as time passes. It is natural, and there's nothing wrong with this. The core of the article stays the same in all sources: a German pilot let an American pilot and his crew go, and the men met some years later and got to be friends.

Please do not allow to prevent this kind, such needed in our angry time story, to warm the hearts of wikipedia readers. It will be a wrong thing to do.--Mbz1 (talk) 21:48, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry you feel that way, but I trust you to be able to move beyond it and focus on making constructive changes to the article, instead of ad hominem attacks on people who criticize it. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:37, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Well, "constructive" changes to the article were made, the only problem you mentioned in your decline reason was removed, but your decline, actually two declines are still on.--Mbz1 (talk) 00:52, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

• A couple things: a. I just went through and removed all the info that I couldn't find in these three articles [6][7][8]. Some of what I removed is probably available in some sources, but make sure if you re-add anything it has inline citations. b. Let's try really hard to comment on content, not contributors. Qrsdogg (talk) 22:00, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
• Note 2: Inline citations have been added to the article. Qrsdogg (talk) 23:50, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• Well, and I added some of removed information right back because it is supported by at least one RS, and not only the three you listed above, but by other two I added yesterday myself.I do not believe anything should have been removed including two sources user:Roscelese claimed to be unreliable. If the article were sourced only by those two sources, then yes, but, if so called unreliable sources repeat the same story as reliable ones do, how unreliable they really are? How unreliable could be this source with the pictures and interviews of the men? This article is not about an exact science, this article is not under any topic that is a subject of discretionary sanctions, this article is about a war story, a story that is retold every single time with some new details added and some old details missing and/or changed. The reliable sources that are used in the article now have some discrepancies too. It is OK. What the difference does it make how many engines Brown's plane lost? What the difference does it make,if Stigler was ordered to fly after the Brown's plane, or he decided to do it on his own? How this particular information could affect wikipedia's main page readers? IMO removing information from the article means giving in to a bad faith decline.--Mbz1 (talk) 23:53, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

"What the difference does it make,if Stigler was ordered to fly after the Brown's plane, or he decided to do it on his own?" - Wait, really? "What difference does it make to the reader if our editors just make things up?" This is really a question someone is posing on Wikipedia, on a main-page proposal no less? Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 01:30, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

This was removed! Move on, please. Come up with new decline reasons, or remove the ones you have now.--Mbz1 (talk) 02:58, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook and refs of reliable sources check out as of the current version (which for the record is [9]). The problems raised by the decliner have been rectified. Until someone points out a specific example of something that currently fails to reflect the information in the refs, this is good to go for DYK. OCNative (talk) 11:00, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Are you sure you want to approve that hook? Maybe one with proper grammar and a comprehensible sentence structure would be better... Beeblebrox (talk) 19:50, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

ALT 1: ... that during World War II, a Luftwaffe pilot, observing that there were several wounded crewmen on a United States Army Air Corps's plane, declined to fire and actually safely escorted it to the North Sea? Beeblebrox (talk) 19:57, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing my grammar.--Mbz1 (talk) 23:55, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

While I thought the original hook was oddly worded, I understood what it meant but wasn't sure how to reword it. ALT 1 is a great improvement and actually tells more of the story. However, I did add a comma and change "an" to "a" in ALT1. OCNative (talk) 00:22, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Might I also suggest removing the "actually"? I think the surprise of the event is already implied in "declined to fire". Agree it's a great improvement. Khazar (talk) 06:46, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

I also agree that "actually" should be removed, if for nothing else at least to make hook shorter. Now it is 6 characters above the limit of the recommended hooks' length.--Mbz1 (talk) 07:44, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good. For the record, it is:
ALT2:... that during World War II, a Luftwaffe pilot, observing that there were several wounded crewmen on a United States Army Air Corps's plane, declined to fire and safely escorted it to the North Sea? OCNative (talk) 08:38, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

I just made significant corrections to the article (punctuation, grammar, redundant words & phrases, etc.) – which also had a naked ref! The article's author missed including interesting words like "flak" that would advance the story and had wikilinked words like "engine", while leaving vernacular terms like "blacked out" unlinked. This wikipedia is read by lots of people for whom English is not a native language. When you write "plane's engine", it's pretty clear what you mean - in other words, no need for a wikilink to "engine", but "blacked out" should have been linked or taken out of the vernacular. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a story book, so no article should begin with "this is a story about". The article deserves much better writing and I hope it is fixed further. Marrante (talk) 15:57, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Well,a so called "naked" ref was added not by me. It was added by an administrator user:SarekOfVulcan. I saw it of course, but usually I am very reluctant on correcting the work done by administrators :-)--Mbz1 (talk) 17:52, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Looks fixed up. Admittedly I didn't check the last para, but the rest looks fine. I've made some changes (MOS, removing redundancy, minor corrections per sources). Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 05:23, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

New Albion Brewing Company

• ... that the defunct New Albion Brewing Company was an early influence on the United States microbrewery and craft beer movement of the late 20th century?

• Reviewed: Benefis Health System

Created by Chimino (talk). Self nom at 02:36, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Can you direct us to where that is stated in the ref? Many thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 18:50, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

It is not directly stated, but describes the process of it becoming the first microbrewery; I've provided two additional sources which make the claim directly. Let me know if sufficient...--Chimino (talk) 21:08, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

The second ref strikes me as questionable (as to whether it is an RS). The third ref happily is clearly an RS. It refers to the company, however, as "the first ground-up craft brewery in the United States". That is fodder for a hook, but seems a bit different than what is stated in the current hook.--Epeefleche (talk) 22:11, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

That sounds okay, if the term wikilinks to "microbrewery". There's also this quote "his influence played a significant role for the first successful batch of microbrewers.”[10] All in all, it seems to be generally implied it was the first microbrewer, but I can't find a verifiable source stating it plainly...--Chimino (talk) 22:33, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

I see that "craft brewery" redirects to "microbrewery". I'm not quite sure what the phrase "ground-up" means or adds. Nor (perhaps I am missing it) do I see the reference to "since Prohibition". So, as to the hook, I think there is one here, but I would appreciate another editor suggesting the best way to phrase it. Perhaps it is to change "microbrewery" to "craft brewery" (or perhaps that is not even necessary ... I defer to others), and to delete (unless there is support for it) the phrase "since Prohibition"? Another editor's input would be appreciated.--Epeefleche (talk) 03:14, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

I agree a third opinion would help; the problem with "microbrewery" and "craft beer" owning the same article is the former referring to volume produced while the latter describes style.--Chimino (talk) 03:21, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

I can't tell which statement in ref 1 (Brewers Association) is supposed to support the statement. Ref 2 (Beer Festivals) isn't really RS. Ref 3 (NY Observer) is RS, but I, like Epeefleche, am not at all sure that "ground-up craft brewery" is equivalent to "microbrewery since Prohibition." I think it's probably better to scrap this hook idea (and remove the statement from the article) and go for another interesting fact from the article, like its having basically started the microbrewery trend (this is supported by the Observer). Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:56, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

I've rewritten the hook & lede, removing the dubious source. Let me know what you think...--Chimino (talk) 11:08, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Warblington Castle

• ... that Warblington Castle in Hampshire was granted to two different 1st Earls of Southampton?

• Reviewed: Alexi Salamone ([11])

Created by Geni (talk). Self nom at 20:16, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

The article is new enough (11 May 2011) and long enought (1678 prose charaters) and reads nicely. However, I would suggest that it mentions the castle's location in the script (Warblington Castle is near Langstone in Hampshire) rather than leave it in the footnotes. Philipjelley (talk) 22:06, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

I don't actualy have a source for that. The closest I've got would be "in fields near the edge of Chichester Harbour". The problem is that it sits in a gap between settlements.©Geni 22:17, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

On p32 of the Reader's Digest Touring Guide to Britian, Reader's Digest Assoication Limited, (1992) it says of Langstone "A mile east, ruins of 16th-century Warbington Castle and Saxon Church with 14th-century wooden porch." You could just say its near Havant, north-east of Portsmouth or between Southampton and Chichester. It's just that I read the article and wondered where the castle was, so I looked it up. Regards, Philipjelley (talk) 22:26, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

I've added "in Hampshire" to the hook. Nyttend (talk) 23:22, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Make it "near Langstone in Hampshire Philipjelley (talk) 12:11, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

1946-47 Ashes series

• ... that the 1946-47 Ashes series was arranged when the Attorney-General of Australia Doctor H. V. Evatt (pictured) made a personal appeal to the Marylebone Cricket Club at Lords for the rapid resumption of Anglo-Australian Test cricket after the Second World War?

• Reviewed: Warblington Castle ([12])

5x expanded by Philipjelley (talk). Self nom at 22:47, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Note: The article was created on 27 April 2011, but the prose content has increased over fivefold in the last five days (from c1,500 to c11,000) Philipjelley (talk) 22:50, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Dagan (bishop)

• ... that the Irish bishop and saint, Dagan, may have attempted to excommunicate the Roman missionaries sent by Pope Gregory the Great to convert the Anglo-Saxons by refusing to eat with them?

• Reviewed: María Rosa Lida de Malkiel ([13])

Created by Ealdgyth (talk). Self nom at 13:46, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• Date and length are fine, AGF on offline and subscription sources. Qrsdogg (talk) 17:16, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on May 13

German destroyer Z16 Friedrich Eckoldt

• ... that the German destroyer Friedrich Eckoldt was sunk during the 1942 Battle of the Barents Sea when she mistook the British light cruiser Sheffield for the German heavy cruiser Admiral Hipper?

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Self nom at 16:33, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Ramone Moore [14]

• 5x expansion verified. Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. However, the hook is over 200 char. How about:
• ALT1: ... that the German destroyer Friedrich Eckoldt was sunk during the 1942 Battle of the Barents Sea when she mistook the British light cruiser Sheffield for the German heavy cruiser Admiral Hipper?

That's fine. I figured the full date was expendable if the one character over mattered.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:46, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:02, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

William Ward (American football)

• ... that Michigan football coach William Ward (pictured) later became a physician who experimented with the surgical creation of artificial vaginas?

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:22, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Date, expansion, hoof refs and picture license okay. --Pgallert (talk) 12:12, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Croton North Railroad Station

• ... that the two old Pullman-Electric passenger cars at the former Croton North station (pictured) in Croton-on-Hudson, New York, are contributing resources to the station's National Register listing although they were never used in the state?

• Reviewed: Teraterpeton ([15])

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 17:28, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

• The article does not explicitly say they were never used in the state of New York, so it'd be better to align the wording in the hook and the article a little more. I cannot access the source, but presume the hook is correct. Ucucha 00:21, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

 Done I made that explicit ... forgot most people aren't that familiar with the geography of the NYC metro area. Daniel Case (talk) 03:01, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Ucucha 15:00, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Walt Disney's Riverfront Square

• ... that Walt Disney's Riverfront Square in St. Louis, Missouri was to have been entirely indoors?

Created by AtionSong (talk). Nominated by Crisco 1492 (talk) at 15:24, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed:Ahalya (diff)

• Date, length OK. What do you think of this expanded hook:
• ALT1: ... that Walt Disney's Riverfront Square in St. Louis, Missouri, was to have been entirely indoors, with artificial lighting simulating weather and time of day? Yoninah (talk) 20:12, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good to me. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:04, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1 verified and good to go. Yoninah (talk) 09:14, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Upper Wardha Dam

• ... that families of farmers and fishermen affected by submergence of the Upper Wardha Dam (pictured), in Maharashtra resorted to agitation, seeking fishing rights in the reservoir as an economic incentive?

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 10:44, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Khin Ohmar.--Nvvchar. 11:06, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
• Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 15:02, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Montenegrin nationality law

• ... that Montenegrin nationality law first recognised the right of renunciation of citizenship in 1905 during the reign of Nicholas I?

• Reviewed: Kingdom of the Little People

5x expanded by Eric Baer (talk). Self nom at 04:12, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

• All checks out. Nice expansion! Miyagawa (talk) 16:31, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

William Rogers (engraver)

• ... that William Rogers' engraved portrait Queen Elizabeth Standing in a Room with a Lattice Window (pictured) is based on a drawing by Isaac Oliver?

• Reviewed: Fay Kellogg ([16])

Created by PKM (talk). Self nom at 02:25, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

• May I suggest ALT1: "... that Will Rogers' engraved portrait Queen Elizabeth Standing in a Room with a Lattice Window (pictured) is based on a drawing by Isaac Oliver?"

Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:05, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Now that is funny. :-) - PKM (talk) 17:17, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Length and date check out. Hook fact behind registration wall, so assuming good faith on that. Hook choice up to other editors. Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:58, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

San Cristóbal de las Casas

• ... that some of the tourism in San Cristóbal de las Casas, Chiapas, Mexico is related to the Zapatista uprising of 1994?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 00:06, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

• REVIEWED Phonocentrism Thelmadatter (talk) 00:11, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length, 5x and date of expansion check out. Offline hook accepted in good faith. Good to go! Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:05, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

• (edit conflict) Very nice. Hook could be rephrased to avoid the awkward "related to" the Zapatistas, though - something like:

ALT1: ... that San Cristóbal de las Casas, Chiapas, Mexico has a "Zapaturismo" industry of tourists interested in the Zapatista uprising of 1994? Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 02:10, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

8th (Midlands) Parachute Battalion

• ... that after the Second World War the 8th (Midlands) Parachute Battalion had to deal with riots in Tel Aviv?

Self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 18:26, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Battle of Bautzen (1945) [17] Jim Sweeney (talk) 18:26, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• Size, source and date ok.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:53, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Kingdom of the Little People

• ... that the Kingdom of the Little People theme park in Kunming, China requires its performers to be less than 51 inches (130 cm) tall?

Created by Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 17:21, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Dagan (bishop) Qrsdogg (talk) 17:21, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
• Source, size, and date ok. Eric Baer (talk) 04:12, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Khin Ohmar

• ... that Women's League of Burma activist Khin Ohmar evaded arrest during Burma's pro-democracy 8888 Uprising when a Japanese diplomat allowed her and other students to hide from police in his home?

ALT1: ... that US First Lady Laura Bush described Women's League of Burma activist Khin Ohmar as "one of the strongest voices against Burma's violent regime"?

ALT2: ... that in 2008, Khin Ohmar won the Global Leadership Award and the Anna Lindh Prize for her work with the Burmese democracy movement?

Reviewed: Antoin Miliordos

Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 16:41, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• Lenght, date size, refrences to all hooks verified. My preference is for ALT2 hook. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 11:05, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

2030 (novel)

• ... that 2030: The Real Story of What Happens to America, Albert Brooks' 2011 dystopian novel, was originally written as a movie script?

Created by Lexein (talk). Self nom at 15:57, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

(Reviewed Go the Fuck to Sleep, below --Lexein (talk) 16:19, 13 May 2011 (UTC))

Dates and sizes check OK. It may need a section about the plot, rather than in the lead, but that's for future development, the article seems acceptable as it is. Cambalachero (talk) 22:33, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Xanthostemon chrysanthus

• ... that the golden penda (pictured) can flower at any time of year?

• Comment: silly hook but actually goes well with impressive pic

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 10:30, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed : Taaffeite Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:04, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
• Date, expansion and image rights are fine, AGF for offline ref. Personally I prefer the other image in the article (Image:Xanthostemon chrysanthus.jpg) but the choice is up to Casliber - Basement12 (T.C) 13:06, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• The other image looks great big, but you are right it does get a little lost as a thumbnail. It is a spectacular plant in flower - (dammit I drove past one in flower the other day...if only I could remember where it was...). Look, the person uploading this to a queue can play with whichever image they think is ok, I am not fussed. Casliber (talk · contribs) 15:40, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• Here's the other image, for thumbnail comparison. I prefer this one. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:16, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• I agree, the second image is better as a DYK thumbnail. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:46, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• Agree, second image looks better as a thumbnail. With the hook being about the flowering of the plant, having a pic of the flower would suit better. Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:29, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Saints Martin and Sebastian of the Swiss

• ... that the church of Saints Martin and Sebastian of the Swiss is the private chapel of the Pontifical Swiss Guards in the Vatican City?

Created by Afernand74 (talk). Self nom at 09:07, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length & data verified. Hook length good. Image license OK. Foreign language reference accepted in good faith - claim verified online (Catholic Encylopedia, 1913). Nice article.

Good to go. Haruth (talk) 09:39, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Giles Muhame

• ... that Ugandan Rolling Stone editor Giles Muhame alleged that a gay rights group conspired with Somali terrorist group Al-Shabaab in the July 2010 Kampala suicide bombings?

Reviewed:Gidleigh Park

Note: This could use a touch of extra attention as a very controversial figure--he's the guy who outed David Kato before Kato's murder. I've tried to pick a humorous and tightly-sourced hook here that doesn't implicate him in murder, but I'm up for other ALTs too.

Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 05:46, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, and hook are all fine. The article seems to navigate BLP issues well, I read through the source articles and everything looked fine. Qrsdogg (talk) 23:44, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Taaffeite

• ... that Taaffeite (pictured) is one of the rarest gemstone minerals in the world?

• Reviewed: Saints Martin and Sebastian of the Swiss
• Comment: Article expanded 13 May

5x expanded by Haruth (talk). Self nom at 05:10, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• offline ref accepted in good faith - good to go. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:03, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

I slightly tweaked the hook for you. Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:08, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Crisco. Haruth (talk) 11:07, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:22, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Go the Fuck to Sleep

• ... that Adam Mansbach's bedtime-book Go the Fuck to Sleep, thanks to advance copies having been emailed, was #1 on Amazon.com's bestseller list on May 12, 2011, a month before it was to be released?

Created by Kelapstick (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 04:13, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed nursing practice, below.
• Article size ok, citations okay, hook basically ok, length=206, - I'd take out "PDFs" since it's not wikilinked. Otherwise good.--Lexein (talk) 16:15, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• I've made a minor tweak. I'm not totally happy with the hook but don't know how to phrase it any better. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:46, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
• And when this goes live, can we have it at a time when all the mommies and daddies in the US who also read/edit Wikipedia are just done putting those rats to bed? And can I say that my darlings don't take two hours to go to sleep? One and a half at the most? And that last night I only had to get up twice, at 1:15 and at 1:45? *Yawn.* Drmies (talk) 17:09, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
• That hook works, but how about one of these:
  ALT1:... that free PDF copies of Adam Mansbach's bedtime-book Go the Fuck to Sleep pushed the book to #1 on Amazon.com's bestseller list a month before its scheduled release?
  or
  ALT2:... that Adam Mansbach's bedtime-book Go the Fuck to Sleep was #1 on Amazon.com's bestseller list on May 12, 2011—a month before it was to be released—thanks to free advance copies emailed via PDFs? OCNative (talk)

best so far for size, links, and clarity. Good to go. --Lexein (talk) 02:20, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I like that last hook. Drmies (talk) 13:52, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Nursing practice

• ... that nursing practice has two main levels and five stages of development?

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 02:07, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• Hmm. The article is cleanly organized, but there are two issues. First of all, given that the sourcing comes from a college, a council, and a company of lawyers, the article is rather one-sided and focuses exclusively on the description of current practice, without acknowledging that there may well be a history to the topic. (This is not the same point as a certain lack of reliable sourcing.) Second, there currently is a merge proposal, and I don't think an article should be on the front page while there is no consensus on whether it can stand alone. This may change in a couple of days, as may the other problem I see. Right now, the article is not ready yet. Drmies (talk) 04:22, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• Historical expansion being done with a few others. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:41, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Had expanded it further. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:02, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. But I still don't think we should move forward with this given the balance of discussion at Talk:Nursing#Merger_proposal. Sorry, Drmies (talk) 13:53, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Need admin-assisted decision to close the discussion so that eligibility of my article can be determined. Any admins from here please. - AnakngAraw (talk) 14:05, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Genesis Housing Group

• ... that PCHA, Pathmeads and Springboard housing associations have amalgamated to make Genesis Housing Group now managing over 40,000 homes?

Created by MikeBeckett (talk). Self nom at 06:02, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Article is under 1500 characters. The references also need to formatted beyond bare URLs (see WP:Citation templates) and notability must be shown beyond primary sources. Yoninah (talk) 20:21, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 14

2011 Manhattan terrorism plot

• ... that in the 2011 Manhattan terrorism plot, two Muslim Arab-Americans allegedly planned to attack an unspecified synagogue and expressed interest in blowing up a church and the Empire State Building?

Created by Plot Spoiler (talk). Self nom at 00:21, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Norbert M. Samuelson [18]

• Forgive my naive comments - I've only glanced through the article and read a story that two individuals allegedly tried to purchase three pistols and hand grenades and allegedly planned to attack an unspecified synagogue and expressed interest in blowing up a church and the Empire State Building. They were arrested on 11 May (only 5 days ago). Apart from the NPOV and BLP issues (alleged all through), doesn't this all read like a tabloid? FYI, there is an ongoing discussion on DYK moving this way. Materialscientist (talk) 00:40, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

This is an incident covered throughout the national media and the utmost reliable sources. Please read the article and the attached references so you can make informed comment. Otherwise this all just sounds like WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Plot Spoiler (talk) 03:52, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Not IDONTLIKEIT, just basic engineering - it is very difficult to blow up the Empire State Building with grenades, especially if they are not purchased yet (they seemed to have one) and if we don't know whether they were going to be purchased. As to reliable sources, I specifically linked this page because of the use of Daily Mail. Materialscientist (talk) 04:10, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

They "expressed interest" in blowing up the Empire State Building; it doesn't speak to their competency in doing so. But law enforcement officials took their plot quite seriously, particularly the part about trying to attack a synagogue. And rather than focusing on the Daily Mail, you should look at the bulk of references, which were from the AP, Wall Street Journal, etc. All in all, this seems to have nothing to do with the DYK, just your own natural curiosity. Plot Spoiler (talk) 04:22, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

I think that there are neutrality issues with the article. For example it says that one of the protagonists has been arrested six times previously "including an October 2010 robbery of a prostitute" (don't you mean kidnapping of a prostitute? The source for that won't let me see the full article) which were all dismissed. Dismissed charges are surely not relevant, and there seems to be a "no smoke without fire" subtext. I also have doubts about whether the event itself is notable enough to merit an article. Quasihuman | Talk 22:30, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

I also notice that the sentence sourced to The Daily Mail is a negative sentence about a living person, I have therefore removed it per WP:BLP because The Daily Mail cannot be considered to be a reliable source & no other references were cited for it. Quasihuman | Talk 22:48, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

First of all, this event is clearly notable, having been covered in all major U.S. papers. Media coverage is enduring and will continue as the trial of the suspects unfolds. And his prior arrest record seems quite notable - given that a reliable source reported it. Plot Spoiler (talk) 00:00, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

See WP:NOTNEWS. Encyclopedia can use some newspapers as references for its information, but it is not meant to reflect all events reported by newspapers, no matter how reliable they are. This nom appears as premature, as the subjects have just been arrested and the notability of this event is uncertain ("seem notable" and "will continue as the trial of the suspects unfolds" are yet speculations). Materialscientist (talk) 00:46, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Please. This is WP:SNOWBALL. This is not some minor news story. This was front page news which will continue to be notably covered, beyond a shadow of a doubt. If you think it's WP:NOTNEWS, go for the afd. Otherwise, this seems to still appear as WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Plot Spoiler (talk) 02:00, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

There are still sourcing problems with the article, one paragraph is sourced to a New York Post article. Not being from that side of the pond, I didn't know about the New York Post's reputation, but put it this way, If that kind of article was in Wikipedia, I would tag it for speedy deletion under G10 as an attack page. Please be more careful with your sourcing, especially when the article contains biographical details of living people. Quasihuman | Talk 11:35, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

I have nominated the article for AfD here due to concerns about notability, If the result is keep, the hook can be reviewed then. Quasihuman | Talk 14:27, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Lansdowne Road football riot

• ... that Combat 18 gave the Nazi salute to the Irish national anthem before the Lansdowne Road football riot?

Created by Quasihuman (talk). Self nom at 11:52, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: VX-6 ([19])

• Date, length and source all fine. Congrats, Dahn (talk) 16:24, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Julien Hoffman

• ... that during his student days, working on spermatogenesis, UCSF Medical Center pediatric cardiologist Julien Hoffman developed a close relationship with Sydney Brenner and Phillip V. Tobias?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 19:49, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Nicolae Iorga♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:00, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Not that it's not eligible, but it looks like the author has self-nominated it - see somewhat below. So we should remove this nomination. Schwede66 20:22, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Sorry. Nomination has now been restored - my stuff up. Schwede66 08:48, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook ref (in Google Books snippet view) all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:27, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Julien Hoffmann (composer)

• ... that Julien Hoffmann is the composer of the song "La marche du Grand-Duc Henri", first performed at a special royal concert marking HRH Grand Duke Henri’s accession to the throne of Luxembourg on October 7, 2000 at the Grand Ducal Palace?

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 10:31, 15 May 2011 (UTC) Reviewed Nicolae Iorga♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:00, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Duplicated the hook from the other nomination here. This article got nominated twice. Schwede66 20:26, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Sorry; no. The articles are about two different people with similar names. Earlier today, I nominated and co-credited myself (along with Dr. Blofeld) for Julien Hoffman. What happened to that nom? --Rosiestep (talk) 04:31, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Oh, I can't believe this. Julien Hoffmann and Julien Hoffman sitting almost on top of one another. Sorry, I didn't spot that they were different by one 'n'. Sorry. Will have to restore your nomination by going through the history (have to log off, now, though). My humble apologies. Schwede66 06:19, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Ok, all should be in order again. Sorry for the stuff up. You managed to nominate those two within 11 minutes of one another - how crazy is that? Schwede66 08:51, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Right, might as well review this. Confirm that it's a 2x BLP done recently. Article does not meet the minimum size requirement of 1500B of prose, though. Also, the last paragraph is lacking a ref. There's lots of little facts worked into the hook. Two of the references are in Lëtzebuergësch, which I can't read (AGF this). Reference #6 has 122 pages; would you kindly point to the page where it confirms something? Lastly, the fact that it was played for HRH Grand Duke Henri’s accession has no reference, but that's required for the hook fact. The article needs some going over, with superfluous spaces to be removed, closing quotation marks to be added - it looks somewhat unfinished in its current state. Finally, the hook is way over the 200 character limit. None of the problems would be hard to overcome, there's just quite a few of them. Schwede66 09:10, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Alt1 ...that Julien Hoffmann is the composer of "La marche du Grand-Duc Henri", song first performed at a royal concert marking Grand Duke Henri’s accession to the throne of Luxembourg on October 7, 2000? (197 characters) --Doug Coldwell ^talk 21:14, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Alt2 ...that Julien Hoffmann composed "La marche du Grand-Duc Henri", a march first heard at a concert on October 7, 2000, to mark Grand Duke Henry’s accession to the throne of Luxembourg? (Slightly shorter... it's a march rather than a song and was first heard in public on that date: I have corrected the article.) Moonraker2 (talk) 22:09, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Historia de San Martín y de la emancipación sudamericana

• ... that Bartolomé Mitre wrote the biography of José de San Martín Historia de San Martín y de la emancipación sudamericana after ending his administration as president of Argentina?

• Reviewed: Mike Pasquella

Created by Cambalachero (talk). Self nom at 03:08, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Crossopriza lyoni

• ... that tailed cellar spiders (pictured) escape predators by turning themselves almost invisible?

• ALT1:... that spiderlings of Crossopriza lyoni (pictured) can catch mosquitoes four times their own size barely one week after hatching?
• ALT2:... that tailed cellar spiders (pictured) may play an important role in reducing mosquito-borne tropical diseases?
• Reviewed: German destroyer Z13 Erich Koellner ([20])
• Comment: Not sure which picture to use. Feel free to pick a better one from here. Will welcome alt suggestions as well, don't really know which of the three is more interesting.

Created by Obsidian Soul (talk). Self nom at 02:03, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Length, date and sources for ALT1 verified. Good to go. mauchoeagle _(c) 00:29, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Struck off original hook and ALT2 for clarity.-- Obsidi♠n^Soul 00:32, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Disambiguated hook. Looks good to go. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:09, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Although I think this picture would look better on the main page. It has more contrast. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:24, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Mike Pasquella

• ... that first baseman Mike Pasquella played two games in Major League Baseball—his first for the Philadelphia Phillies and his last opposing them?

Created by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 00:01, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Francis X. Shea. — KV5 • Talk • 00:12, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Character count (excluding titles, references and similar stuff) gives 1473. It's not the required 1500, but it's very near, add a few more sentences to complete it. Besides, I would remove the "exactly" from the hook, that word should be used for cases of unexpectedly matching numbers (such as when reaching a record, but without surpassing it) Cambalachero (talk) 02:58, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Prosesize.js gives the pagesize as 1774. — KV5 • Talk • 11:00, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps because it includes the lead. Anyway, I don't thing that adding one or two more sentences should be that hard. You have two sections of a single sentence and one section of two Cambalachero (talk) 01:41, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Since when does the lead not count toward a DYK hook? "Prosesize.js is the preferred counting method, and usually carries the most weight at DYK, because it counts only the prose as defined by Did You Know rules, thus avoiding mistakes and providing an impartial settlement of disputed counting." The lead is included by the prosesize script. I've had shorter articles than this pass DYK with no problem; I fail to see why this one should be any different. — KV5 • Talk • 22:45, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

The selection criteria mentions the 1500 character requirement, right, but it also says that "In practice, articles longer than 1,500 characters may still be rejected as too short, at the discretion of the selecting reviewers.". As I told, you included two sections of a single sentence and one section of two. The Additional rules mention as well that "There is a reasonable expectation that an article which is to appear on the front page, even a short one, should appear to be complete and not some sort of work in progress". I'm not requesting an article ready for GAN, just sections bigger than two sentences. Cambalachero (talk) 23:10, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

How is the article a work in progress? It covers literally the player's entire career. I don't get what your beef is with this. You never said that the article was "too short", you said that it was under 1500 characters, which is incorrect. Yes, there are short sections, but that is because there is no more information available about the player. I encourage you to try and find some. Google News has nothing, and I have checked all of the established reliable online baseball resources. I re-worded the section on managing for some additional characters, and the birth and death dates have been added to the lead. Beyond that, there's nothing else to find and this meets the requirements. — KV5 • Talk • 01:19, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Done. If those tiny sections are so small and have no potencial to grow, they shouldn't be sections. A single "biography" section meets the MOS better than that Cambalachero (talk) 20:10, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Francis X. Shea

• ... that, as president of the College of St. Scholastica, Jesuit educator Francis X. Shea started a campus tradition by holding a fish fry at his home during the spring smelt run?

• Reviewed: Jean Perrot ([21])

Created by Orlady (talk). Self nom at 20:29, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

• Offline ref is accepted on good faith and confirmed by online ref. Very nicely done. — KV5 • Talk • 23:59, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Jesse Levan

• ... that Jesse Levan, winner of multiple minor league batting championships, was the last person banned by baseball's governing organizations for conspiring to fix games?

Created by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 18:37, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Grammy Award for Best Long Form Music Video. — KV5 • Talk • 18:37, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Both hook sources check out. Nice article! Cmprince (talk) 06:02, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Meat dress of Lady Gaga

• ... that the meat dress of Lady Gaga was to be preserved by being made into a type of jerky?

• Reviewed: Montenegrin nationality law

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 16:34, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

• Lengths and dates check out. However, while the hook source and article both indicate that there was a plan to make the dress into jerky, there is no confirmation that the plan was carried out. Either there needs to be a source (and statement in the article) indicating that this happened, or the hook should be reworded to indicate that this was the plan. --Orlady (talk) 21:06, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

• Modified the hook. Miyagawa (talk) 21:37, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

• Everything looks good now. --Orlady (talk) 22:02, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Ha that's awesome. Nice job!♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:58, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Coloptychon rhombifer

• ... that the Isthmian Alligator Lizard, native to Costa Rica and Panama, was not seen for fifty years?

• Reviewed: Peter Mweshihange

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 13:47, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, and hook all good. Smokeybjb (talk) 15:50, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Ahalya

• ... that according to Hindu mythology, the god-king Indra was cursed with having a thousand vagina marks on his body for having extra-martial sex with Ahalya (pictured)?

5x expanded by Redtigerxyz (talk). Self nom at 06:57, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed #Wellington R. Burt. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 10:07, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Length, date, and 5x expansion check out. Offline reference accepted in good faith. Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:35, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Eliurus petteri

• ... that the Malagasy rodent Eliurus petteri is the only tufted-tailed rat with completely white underparts?

• Reviewed: Croton North Railway Station

Created by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 00:23, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Size, newness, and hook check out, although the ref's Handle System number is a dead link. While this should be fixed, I'll accept the ref in good faith anyways. It does not seem to conflict with DYK requirements. --Starstriker7^(Talk) 04:48, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I've fixed the link; something in the templates messed it up. Ucucha 15:04, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Bramalea Satellites

• ... that Canadian semi-pro football team the Bramalea Satellites went from being a national championship-winning team of Toronto Argonauts backup players, to an vastly unsuccessful youth league?

5x expanded by Zanimum (talk). Self nom at 03:27, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

(Note that this article was created in 2006, was 431 bytes this morning, and is 12,107 bytes now. And I really have no interest in football, and have never heard of this team outside of Wikipedia. -- Zanimum (talk) 03:27, 15 May 2011 (UTC))

Francis P. Smith

• ... that under the presidency of Father Francis P. Smith, Duquesne University founded WDUQ, Pittsburgh's first college radio station?

• Reviewed: Richard Laurence Marquette ([22])

Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 22:12, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook ref all verified. Tweaked hook and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:41, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 15

Classic Aircraft Aviation Museum

• ... that the Classic Aircraft Aviation Museum in Hillsboro, Oregon, once bought a jet from a car dealership?

• Reviewed: pending ([pending])

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 05:42, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

• Article date and size, source, hook length all check out. Suggestion:

ALT1: ... that the Classic Aircraft Aviation Museum in Hillsboro, Oregon, once bought a fighter jet from a car dealership?

To distinguish it from a passenger jet. --Lexein (talk) 11:59, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Pisa Griffin

• ... that the Pisa Griffin (pictured) is the largest known medieval Islamic metal sculpture, and may have been designed to emit noises?

Created by Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 16:10, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed PSCORE Johnbod (talk) 18:32, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:45, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Four Seasons Arena, Montana ExpoPark

• ... that when the 5,800-seat Four Seasons Arena was built at Montana ExpoPark in 1979, it lacked air conditioning?

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk), Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 13:27, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Death of Charlotte Shaw

• 5x expansion verified on Four Seasons Arena (nice expansion!). Date, length verified for both articles. Offline hook ref AGF. Tweaked hook and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:50, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Loud (Stan Walker song)

• ... that the music video for Stan Walker's song "Loud", which shows a party with loud music, was filmed in Los Angeles?

• Reviewed: Belgian Entertainment Association ([23])
• Comment: I realise that it's a bland hook, but it's all we have for now

Created by Adabow (talk), Ozurbanmusic (talk). Self nom at 07:06, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Belgian Entertainment Association

• ... that the Belgian Entertainment Association, established in February 2008, represents the interests of the music, video and video game industries in Belgium?

• Reviewed: WASP-15 ([24])

Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 19:20, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Size and age are fine. Foreign-language references are accepted in good faith. I removed the "both" in the hook, as "both" refers to two objects, and the redundant "the"s preceding the industries. Adabow (talk · contribs) 07:00, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Death of Charlotte Shaw

• ... that Charlotte Shaw, who drowned in Walla Brook (pictured) on Dartmoor, is the only person to have died on a Ten Tors expedition?

Created by HJ Mitchell (talk). Self nom at 18:24, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed Eagleton (Parks and Recreation). HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:31, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Timeliness of submission, article length, and hook length check out. Online cite checks out. Image from WikiCommons is OK for main page. Good to go! - Tim1965 (talk) 13:33, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Enina Apostle

• ... that the 10th or 11th-century Old Bulgarian Enina Apostle (sheet pictured) is the oldest Cyrillic manuscript currently part of a Bulgarian collection?

• Reviewed: Momčilo Spremić

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 11:01, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Hook length, creation date, and English reference verified. Canadian Paul 19:43, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Mosque City of Bagerhat

• … …that the Sixty Pillar Mosque (pictured) located in Bagergat in south Bangladesh is one of the oldest mosques in the country described as "historic mosque representing the Golden Era of Muslim Bengal"?

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nook refrences. I have now refixed the refreenceom at 01:28, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Date and length are fine. I tried searching that book via Google Books for the hook, but no luck; I assume I'm just being randomly excluded from that page. But would you double-check on your end and add the page in question for that reference? Cheers Khazar (talk) 02:53, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for the review observations. Yes, it does happen with me also that the text does not get reproduced always in google books when I try it a second time. I have now refixed the reference quoting the text on page 4 of the book as it appeared on my computer.--Nvvchar. 04:02, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Good to go--thanks. Khazar (talk) 16:32, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Charles Brady King.--Nvvchar. 11:46, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Charles Brady King

• ... that Charles Brady King was the first person to make and drive an automobile (pictured) in Detroit, which was 3 months before Henry Ford?

• I Reviewed Waking Up (song) (diff) --Doug Coldwell ^talk 23:36, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 23:19, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Checked length, date and references. Nice article. Good to go--Nvvchar. 11:45, 17 May 2011 (UTC)-
• Request the DYK to be first in queue with the picture. Thanks. --Doug Coldwell ^talk 17:02, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Waking Up (song)

• ... that Elastica's 1995 song "Waking Up" got the band sued for plagiarism?

5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 22:58, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed Waldemar Franklin Quintero ([25]). - PM800 (talk) 23:08, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, and sources verified.--Doug Coldwell ^talk 23:32, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Waldemar Franklin Quintero

• ... that Colonel Waldemar Quintero of the Colombian National Police was shot and killed by the Medellín Cartel?

Created by MauchoEagle (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 22:20, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: #Swan dress of Björk.  Chzz  ►  22:23, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, and sources verified. - PM800 (talk) 23:04, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Swan dress of Björk

• ... that a poll by Debenhams, published in the Daily Telegraph, voted Björk's swan dress (pictured) the ninth most iconic red-carpet dress of all time?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 21:13, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length OK, ref checks out, new, long enough, etc. Good to go. Nice work.  Chzz  ►  22:23, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• As with "That Dress", I've changed the hook; the Telegraph article is a bit naughty with its headline, but if you read the text carefully the poll was for the most iconic red-carpet dress, not for the most iconic dress. Ericoides (talk) 12:16, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

List of chronometers on HMS Beagle

• ... that HMS Beagle's chronometers (example pictured) were so important to its mission that John Lort Stokes rescued one despite being speared in the chest by an indigenous Australian?

Created by Spinningspark (talk). Self nom at 20:03, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Refah tragedy SpinningSpark 22:27, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Looks good to go. 'Native Australian' is rather old-fashioned wording though - 'Indigenous Australian' is the current common term and would be preferable. 'Aboriginal Australian' is also OK. Nick-D (talk) 12:08, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Changed hook, even though it's more difficult to spell - but you've given me the spelling now. SpinningSpark 17:26, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Beagle in the article title needs to be italics. I tried to move it to Beagle but cocked it up. Can someone who knows how to please do it? Ericoides (talk) 13:40, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

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Nicolae Iorga

• ... that Romania's communist regime celebrated historian Nicolae Iorga (pictured) as a forerunner, even though he was a conservative who admired Italian Fascism and the French far-right?

• Reviewed: Lansdowne Road football riot ([26])

5x expanded by Dahn (talk). Self nom at 16:27, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• ALT 1: ... that Romanian scholar Nicolae Iorga (pictured) constructed a conservative vision of world history, contrasting Max Weber's Protestant Ethic? Dahn (talk) 17:34, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Good to go. Excellent job.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:59, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Thank you! I guess that goes for both hooks? (And, incidentally, which one do you prefer?) Dahn (talk) 21:10, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Second one I like.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:16, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

South East Forest National Park, Smoky Mouse, Olive Whistler

• ... that South East Forest National Park in the southeastern corner of New South Wales is a haven for the vulnerable Smoky Mouse and Olive Whistler (pictured)?

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 14:18, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Size ok, date ok and hook is supported with the referenced source.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 17:56, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• The Smoky Mouse is actually Endangered, not Vulnerable [27]. Ucucha 18:15, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• That is right. I checked the provided link and it looks like credible source. I will contact the nominator and ask him/her if we should add that source to the article and replace vulnerable with endangered.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:55, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Great..err, terrible news for the mouse that is, but easy fix (wish it were that easy for most of Australia's mammal fauna...).

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:28, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Sad news for the mouse, but everything checks out now, this one is good to go.--Kevmin § 16:33, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Are you sure about it. The hook still says vulnerable mouse?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 17:21, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Oh, anyone is welcome to change the word, actually, and switching the order might be prudent. Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:38, 16 May 2011

• ... that South East Forest National Park in the southeastern corner of New South Wales is a haven for the uncommon Olive Whistler (pictured) and endangered Smoky Mouse?

I think this version is much better. The only reason I did not do it is because I was concerned that my English would not be good enough for this change. Thanks Casliber. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 06:34, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

vapBC

• ... that the Mycobacterium tuberculosis genome is predicted to contain 45 copies of vapBC?

Created by Jebus989 (talk). Self nom at 13:25, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Two Broke Girls

• Well referenced and written. Verified by the cited abstract from PEDS. Length and date are fine. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 19:31, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Sebastian Kamwanga

• ... that in the 1980s Gciriku king Sebastian Kamwanga allowed PLAN guerrilla fighters to use his farm as operational base in the Namibian War of Independence?

• Reviewed: William Ward (American football) ([28])
• Comment: I am out on business travel until May 21. In case of serious concerns, please give me the chance of responding / correcting on May 22.

Created by Pgallert (talk). Self nom at 12:23, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length and hook all check out. Good to go. CeeGee (talk) 18:30, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Two Broke Girls

• ... that the CBS comedy series Two Broke Girls is set in New York City, USA?

--BabbaQ (talk) 11:50, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• is only 664 characters, excluding infobox, cast list and references—far short of 1500 Jebus989^✰ 13:29, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Not only that, but what is interesting about the hook? Is it the only series set in NYC? Dahn (talk) 16:18, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Ohn Than

• ... that Burmese democracy activist Ohn Than is serving a life sentence for holding up a poster in front of the US Embassy in Yangon?

Reviewed:MOA-2009-BLG-387Lb

Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 11:29, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length and hook all check out. Nice article. Good to go. Marrante (talk) 17:10, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Cheers, thanks. -- Khazar (talk) 17:21, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Could be a great image DYK if a clearer/high res and free version were available (admittedly a big if) Jebus989^✰ 16:08, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

I agree--it's such a stunning image. Early searching by myself had no luck, but if another more image-savvy editor is willing to take a try, I'll be greatly in your debt. Khazar (talk) 17:24, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Dirty Dancer

• ... that "Dirty Dancer", a song by Enrique Iglesias, Usher and Lil Wayne, was performed by Iglesias on American Idol on May 12, 2011?

• Reviewed: Wipas Raksakulthai ([29])
• Comment: The article was first created on May 9, but was later redirected for lack of notability. I recreated it with at least five times the prose, so it's eligible for DYK regardless

5x expanded by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 09:44, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Could we get some independent discussion about whether this song is any more notable under WP:NSONGS than it was before the corresponding article was redirected and then recreated? I wasn't involved in that discussion previously, but I do have some doubts about its notability independent of the album. If editors who are more familiar than I am with that policy agree that it passes wp:nsongs, I'll have no objection. If not, the article should probably be re-tagged for a merge to album article, assuming there is one.  – OhioStandard (talk) 11:28, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

The song is notable as it has been release as a single, performed on American Idol (and received coverage by MTV News and Billboard because of the performance) and charted in Australia. If you would like another opinion feel free to post at WT:SONGS or somewhere. :-) Adabow (talk · contribs) 04:02, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Well, I suppose like most things in life, this too is a judgment call. Here's what WP:NSONGS has to say, in part:

Most songs do not rise to notability for an independent article and should redirect to another relevant article, such as for the songwriter, a prominent album or for the artist who prominently performed the song. Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts, that have won significant awards or honors or that have been independently released as a recording by several notable artists, bands or groups are probably notable. Notability aside, a separate article on a song is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article...

Additional uninvolved comment, please? Especially if any editor who's not involved in song articles wants to okay this I'd have no problem with that; in such a case my "question" icon above could be disregarded.  – OhioStandard (talk) 09:37, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, and hook check out. Personally, I find the hook a bit bland, but it's good enough to pass DYK muster. Regarding OhioStandard's concerns, the article was turned into a redirect because the song hadn't been released yet when the article was first created. It has since charted in Australia on one of the acceptable charts, so the song was not notable at the time of the redirect but is notable now due to charting. This is good to go for DYK. OCNative (talk) 12:54, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Wipas Raksakulthai

• ... that in 2010, Wipas Raksakulthai became the first Thai man arrested for committing lèse majesté on Facebook?

Reviewed:Fudai, Iwate

Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 09:27, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Age, size, hook all OK. Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:33, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Refah tragedy

• ... that in the early stage of World War II, neutral country Turkey's steamer Refah was torpedoed by an unidentified submarine in eastern Mediterranean Sea killing 170 of 202 people aboard?

5x expanded by CeeGee (talk). Self nom at 08:41, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Sebastian Kamwanga[30]
• Length, date and image all ok and turkish language refs accepted in good faith. However, the hook fact (the part about the casualty numbers) does not have an inline cite. More importantly, both the hook and article must have a copyedit by an English speaker before this can go on the front page. SpinningSpark 20:40, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1... that in the early stage of the World War II, neutral country Turkey's steamer Refah was torpedoed by an unidentified submarine in eastern Mediterranean Sea killing 168 of the 200 people aboard? CeeGee (talk) 18:46, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Just corrected the article sofar and modified the hook. Hope someone of native English speaking will copyedit the article. Cheers.CeeGee (talk) 18:55, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Fudai, Iwate

• ... that the 15.5-metre (51 ft) floodgate that protected Fudai, Iwate, Japan from the recent tsunami was derided as a waste of public funds when it was built in the 1970s?

• ALT1:... that a delegation from Fudai, Iwate, Japan was insulted by the drunk mayor of neighboring village Tanohata in 1960 in an attempt to derail merger negotiations?
• Reviewed: Jesse Levan ([[31]])
• Comment: 5x expansion includes the removal of unrelated text in the original draft; it is now well over 5x what it would have been without the removed paragraph (1944 vs 221 bytes).
• Comment2: Slight correction: replaced "seawall" with "floodgate" (this is what is written in the text, and the linked articles are different).

5x expanded by Cmprince (talk). Self nom at 06:27, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Great hook, date and length check out. Good to go. -- Khazar (talk) 09:31, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• Sorry, this is not quite there yet. Firstly, pre-expansion we had 403B of readable prose and now it's still under 2000B, so it's under 5x at present. There's not much missing, though. Unfortunately, you'll have to count what was there before you remove content; see additional rule A4. The second problem is that the each paragraph needs to have at least one reference. The first two paragraphs don't meet that requirement. The first one wouldn't need one if it was the lead, but it doesn't summarise anything from below, so you need to put a reference in there, too. Both problems should be very simple to fix. Schwede66 02:33, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you both for your comments! I have addressed these issues and hope that this has improved the article sufficiently. Cmprince (talk) 20:18, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Article is now sufficiently expanded and sourced. Qrsdogg (talk) 00:16, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

MOA-2009-BLG-387Lb

• ... that the characteristics of the extrasolar planet MOA-2009-BLG-387Lb are difficult to estimate because data on its host star's characteristics are not well-constrained?

Created by Starstriker7 (talk). Self nom at 04:44, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Note: I am planning on creating the star article, which I may later introduce into the hook. --Starstriker7^(Talk) 04:49, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: eliurus petteri --Starstriker7^(Talk) 04:49, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Date, length, hook all GTG. -- Khazar (talk) 11:37, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

International Centre for Policy Studies (ICPS)

• ... that the International Centre for Policy Studies (ICPS) is involved in analysis of sub-regional multilateralism in the four maritime basins of the Baltic, Black, Caspian and Mediterranean Seas?

Created by MikeBeckett (talk). Self nom at 06:09, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Doesn't appear to contain any third-party sources attesting notability. It's possible that it's notable enough to have an article, for which reason I'm refraining from nominating it for AfD, but it cannot appear on the Main Page in its current state. It also really needs cleanup. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:10, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 16

Rick Welts

• ... that Phoenix Suns President and CEO Rick Welts is the first prominent American sports executive to come out as gay when he did so in an interview with The New York Times on May 15, 2011?

• Reviewed: Dirty Dancer ([32])

Created by Toussaint (talk), OCNative (talk). Self nom at 13:11, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Valentino Garavani

• ... that Valentino Garavani has cited the moment Julia Roberts collect her Academy Award for Best Actress wearing his gown as the high point of his 45-year career?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 12:46, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Black Givenchy dress of Audrey Hepburn

Black Givenchy dress of Audrey Hepburn

Black Givenchy dress of Audrey Hepburn

• ... that the Black Givenchy dress (pictured) worn by Audrey Hepburn in the 1961 film Breakfast at Tiffany's has been called "perhaps the most famous little black dress of all time"?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 11:34, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

• Dress, date and length look great! I hope the pic is free enough, not so familiar with picture licenses. As for the hook, being picky: I think if there is a quote, it has to be exactly like it in the source. That may be true in source 4 but I cannot view it. Could the same thing perhaps be said without the quotation marks? Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:57, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Kartam Joga.--Nvvchar. 13:03, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

White floral Givenchy dress of Audrey Hepburn

• ... that Time Magazine voted the white floral Givenchy dress worn by Audrey Hepburn at the 1954 Academy Awards as the greatest Oscar dress of all time?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 11:33, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

A fair use image, please don't add to this hook.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:37, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Cambusbarron.--Nvvchar. 13:31, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Mark Fulton (loyalist)

• ...that Loyalist Volunteer Force leader Mark "Swinger" Fulton had an image of former leader Billy Wright tattooed over his heart?

Created by Jeanne boleyn (talk). Self nom at 06:57, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

I have reviewed José Zabala-Santos

Zoo City

• ... that Lauren Beukes wore a fake sloth draped over her shoulders to the ceremony in which she won the 2011 Arthur C. Clarke Award for her novel Zoo City?

Created by Nick-D (talk). Self nom at 11:53, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• I've reviewed the nomination for List of chronometers on HMS Beagle

• Hook verified, length verified, all good here. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:10, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Freaky Chakra (film)

• ... that the 2003 Bollywood comedy drama film Freaky Chakra directed by V. K. Prakash was the only time Ouseppachan composed music for a Hindi film?

• Comment: reviewed #Pink Ralph Lauren dress of Gwyneth Paltrow [33] Special circumstances call for acknowledgement of both User:Bongomatic who was instrumental in correcting article issues, and User:Manorathan who wrote the original article and whose efforts inspired the version being submitted. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 10:13, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Created by MichaelQSchmidt (talk), Bongomatic (talk), Manorathan (talk). Self nom at 10:13, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, and hook all check out. Qrsdogg (talk) 00:08, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Henry Graham (of Levens)

• ... that Henry Graham was dismissed by Queen Anne's husband for marrying the natural daughter of King Charles II?

• Reviewed: Federico Fernández Cavada, Adolfo Fernández Cavada (diff)

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 00:36, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 04:10, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Daily Times of Nigeria

• ... that in the 1970s the Daily Times of Nigeria was one of the most successful locally owned businesses in Africa?

• Reviewed: St Wilfrid's Chapel, Church Norton

5x expanded by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 00:20, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Hook is too vague. Other than that everything checks out. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 00:38, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
• ALT1 ... that in the 1970s the Daily Times of Nigeria was one of the most successful locally owned businesses in Africa, selling 270,000 copies daily?
  Aymatth2 (talk) 00:54, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go for ALT1. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 20:18, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Insomniac (song)

• ... that Echobelly's 1994 song "Insomniac" is a "gentle warning of the dangers of snorting too much speed"?

• Reviewed: White bikini of Ursula Andress ([34])

Created by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 22:51, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Don't take it personally, babe, it just ain't your story

• ... that Don't take it personally, babe, it just ain't your story has been described as a profoundly moving video game about love, sex and the internet?

• Reviewed: Here We Go Again (Ray Charles song) ([35])

Created by PresN (talk). Self nom at 20:45, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, and hook are fine. Great to have a Good Article at DYK. Qrsdogg (talk) 23:58, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Michael Jackson's Thriller jacket

• ... that Deborah Nadoolman Landis, designer of Michael Jackson's red Thriller jacket, also designed Indiana Jones' jacket in The Raiders of the Lost Ark?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 20:07, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook ref all verified. Tweaked hook and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:03, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
• Could you add a review, please? Yoninah (talk) 21:04, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

No, I'm tired of reviewing articles right now. Maybe later in the week..♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:10, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Hugh Boustead

• ... that explorer and diplomat Hugh Boustead deserted the Royal Navy to fight in the trenches during World War I?

Created by Canadian Paul (talk). Self nom at 19:33, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Enina Apostle Canadian Paul 19:46, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Everything is OK. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 14:42, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Free Press

• ... that Free Press is the largest and most prominent media reform organization in the United States?

Nominated by Jaobar (talk) 19:28, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• It is not 5x expanded. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 19:33, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Oh yes it is! Our class began working on this article in April 2011, when it was barely 2,000 bytes. It is now over 20,000! That's 10 times expanded in one month. Can we get some reviews please!?! Jaobar (talk) 20:28, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Leszek is right, the article hasn't been 5x expanded in the last five days so it isn't eligible. BigDom 20:33, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Some get angry and revert when newbies "dump" large amounts of information from their sandboxes into a stub, and now our students are out of the running for DYK because they took their time. What a system. Jaobar (talk) 02:01, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Pink Ralph Lauren dress of Gwyneth Paltrow

• ... that the Ralph Lauren dress which Gwyneth Paltrow wore to the 71st Academy Awards in 1999 has been cited as bringing pink back into fashion?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 19:02, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed. Good to go. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 10:05, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Francisco V. Coching

• ... that Filipino comic book illustrator and writer Francisco V. Coching is regarded as the King of Philippine comics?

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 18:35, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• ALT 1: ... that Filipino comic book illustrator and writer Francisco V. Coching is one of the pillars of the Philippine comics Industry? - AnakngAraw (talk) 18:35, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed the article Pinus matthewsii ([36]). - AnakngAraw (talk) 19:07, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Is the V. necessary? Is it really part of the most commonly used name for this writer? Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:17, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Both with V and without V are common. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:39, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

White bikini of Ursula Andress

• ... that the scene featuring Ursula Andress in her iconic white bikini in the 1962 James Bond film Dr. No has been voted #1 in "the 100 Greatest Sexy Moments" of cinema?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 18:33, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, and sources verified. - PM800 (talk) 22:43, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

I believe herr Doctor and Cruella de Ville have joined forces. Oh, what evil plan could involve so many ladies' dresses? Itching powder? Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:13, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

I believe herr doctor has to review an article first. Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:35, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Pinus matthewsii

• ... that the extinct Pliocene pine Pinus matthewsii is thought to have been a colonizing tree?

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 17:14, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed requested changes to South East Forest National Park, Smoky Mouse, Olive Whistler

• Hook, length (2,467 characters), and date verified. - AnakngAraw (talk) 19:05, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Cable binding

• ... that 10% of skiers were expected to suffer an injury in any given season in the era of cable ski bindings (pictured), earning them the nickname "bear traps"?

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 17:08, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date and hook all check out. — Hunter Kahn 17:13, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Croatian National Theatre in Split

• ... that HNK Split (pictured) was the biggest theatre in Southeast Europe at the time of its completion in 1893?

• Reviewed: Tessaratomidae ([37])

Created by Timbouctou (talk). Self nom at 14:12, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Comment: The reference supplied is a Croatian-language newspaper article available online. I'm also open to other hook suggestions and alternative alt text for the picture. Thanks. Timbouctou (talk) 14:28, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
• ALT1: "... that HNK Split (pictured) was the biggest theatre in Southeast Europe at the time of its completion in 1893, even though there were no professional actors in the city of Split yet?" Timbouctou (talk) 16:27, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Both hooks verified, length and date are OK as well. I think I like ALT1 better :) — Toдor Boжinov — 17:07, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for the quick review Todor :) Timbouctou (talk) 19:50, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Green Versace "jungle" dress of Jennifer Lopez

• ... that at the 23rd Grammy Awards, David Duchovny said, "This is the first time in five or six years that I'm sure that nobody is looking at me," because he was standing next to Jennifer Lopez in a plunging green jungle Versace dress?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 14:09, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Izabela Sadoveanu-Evan♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:15, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, ref and hook check out. Good to go. Argyle 4 Life^talk 19:56, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Izabela Sadoveanu-Evan

• ... that, according to feminist militant Izabela Sadoveanu-Evan, the fate of Romanian women in Transylvania was worsened when the region united with Romania?

• Reviewed: Truth (British periodical) ([38])

Created by Dahn (talk). Self nom at 12:22, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• I struck out my original hook, since the claim is attributable more to the organization presided by Baiulescu, than to Sadoveanu (who was one of the members). Here's ALT 1: ... that feminist militant Izabela Sadoveanu-Evan was also an advocate of Montessori education in Romania? Dahn (talk) 12:55, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
• And ALT 2 (to salvage some of the early hook, but do reject if too complicated): ... that feminist writer Izabela Sadoveanu-Evan rallied with an organization which argued that union with Romania had harmed the women of Transylvania? Dahn (talk) 13:02, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

ALT2 is fine.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:17, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Henry Walton Ellis

• ... that Henry Walton Ellis was appointed an ensign in the 89th Regiment of Foot at birth, and when the regiment disbanded the baby was put on half-pay?

Created by Rich Farmbrough (talk). Nominated by Rich Farmbrough (talk) at 09:28, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• While this is from DNB it is interesting. Rich Farmbrough, 09:28, 16 May 2011 (UTC).
  

Truth (British periodical)

• ... that "unruly diplomat" Henry Labouchère was the first person to publish the Truth in Britain?

Created by ThatPeskyCommoner (talk). Self nom at 08:21, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Here's the thing: the quote for Labouchère being an "unruly diplomat" may be from some other article, but it does not appear in this one, so it can't be in the hook. Unless you add the quote to the new article, if it indeed can and must be at all employed. Personally, I find that pitching the article with a confusion between Truth (British periodical) and the truth is too cool for school, and that the hook would be better off without this cheap thrill - but I won't fail the hook based on this concern. I edited part of the article to clarify context, make the text comply more with the WP:MOS, find links for the people and concepts thrown into the pot, and make the text more intelligible for anyone outside "Britain". A technical concern is that Labouchère's status as Truth founder/publisher is not explicitly sourced - there is no citation next to that fact, which is needed for DYK. I might suggest adding something about this as an introductory segment of the "Ramps and libels" section, where a citation would fall more naturally than in the lead. Also, per the DYK practice, the nominator needs to review another article for the nomination to be considered. Regards, Dahn (talk) 12:12, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

OK, I'll try to deal with this. I thought I had a source for Labouchere being the founder of Truth ... will have to double-check on this one! We could alwasy drop the "the" in front of Truth - not a problem, really. Per the doing a review thing, I though one had to have nominated 5 DYKs before this was strictly necessary (but I am probably wrong on that, too!) Pesky (talk …stalk!) 12:34, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry: you're obviously right about the "5 DYKs before" issue - I just never brushed with it before. Please ignore that comment. Dahn (talk) 12:37, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Hey Dahn, I've found a source (online - link leads to abstract, pdf of full article is a free download from there) for Labby being the founder of Truth. :o) I'll see if I can find a ref for the 'unruly diplomat' quote now! Pesky (talk …stalk!) 13:09, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

And I have a source (again link to a pdf from online NYT archive) for the reference to "unruly" :o) (I knew I'd read it somewhere ..... more than once ...) Pesky (talk …stalk!) 13:30, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• ALT 1: ... that "unruly" diplomat Henry Labouchère was the first person to publish Truth in Britain?
  • All checks out on ALT 1. I want to thank ThatPeskyCommoner for his her quick response. Dahn (talk) 15:41, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

:o) "her", but never mind! And you're welcome! Pesky (talk …stalk!) 04:02, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Tessaratomidae

• ... that some species of giant stink bugs (pictured) are edible?

• Reviewed: Federico Fernández Cavada, Adolfo Fernández Cavada ([39])

Created by Obsidian Soul (talk). Self nom at 06:01, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Article size, newness (moved to main space on 16 May), hook length and ref all check out. Looks good to go. Btw, an image picturing a single specimen would probably be a better choice, this one looks like a pile of leaves and does not tempt the reader to click on it. Just a thought. Timbouctou (talk) 14:23, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Agree, unfortunately we don't have an image of a single specimen of Encosternum delegorguei, the edible stink bug mainly discussed in the article. I have cropped that image from a bigger donated pic to show the actual bugs. We do have several pictures of another edible species, but they're only treated to a couple of sentences in the article at most. Best of them are the ones above. Take your pick if you think they are better. I'm leaning towards the one to the right. There are also much more colorful images of other tessaratomids (all pictures available here Commons:Category:Tessaratomidae), but they're not edible. What do you think?-- Obsidi♠n^Soul 18:39, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Well the article is about the whole Tessaratomidae family so putting in a picture of an inedible species is alright. The final choice is up to you. If you insist on picturing an edible species I'd go with Tessaratoma papillosa (above right). But the adult Pycanum rubens (pictured right) looks too good not to use :) It's bound to make readers curious and that's what we are aiming for. Timbouctou (talk) 19:44, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Heh, true enough the (pictured) notice does follow 'giant stink bugs' rather than 'some species'. Replaced pic. Cheers and thanks. :) -- Obsidi♠n^Soul 21:14, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

For reference, these were the pictures we were choosing from (turned to links to not be too disruptive to neighboring DYK's):

Image:Pycanum rubens (adult), night trail, gunung mulu national park, sarawak, malaysia).jpg

File:Tessaratoma papillosa nymph (cropped).jpg

File:Tessaratoma papillosa adult.jpg

Original pic:

File:Dried edible stink bugs - Encosternum delegorguei.jpg-- Obsidi♠n^Soul 21:14, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

WASP-15

• ... that star WASP-15 has a planet whose large radius cannot be explained without some other factor, such as some form of internal heating?

Created by Starstriker7 (talk). Self nom at 04:30, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Jabbar Savalan --Starstriker7^(Talk) 04:49, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Date for 5x verified, but the hook is not well sourced. If I read the source correctly it says that such an explanation "may be required". I actually don't recommend the hook at all since it deals with WASP-15b and the article is about WASP-15 (though I can't say this is strictly against guidelines). --Muhandes (talk) 19:14, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

How about this one?

ALT1:... that planet-bearing star WASP-15 is more than three times more luminous than the Sun? --Starstriker7^(Talk) 23:13, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure how interesting this fact is, but I can verify it can be found in the source (table 2). --Muhandes (talk) 05:56, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

The planet is what makes the star interesting, I'm afraid... :P --Starstriker7^(Talk) 23:15, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Jabbar Savalan

• ... that the European Parliament issued a resolution condemning the drug arrest of Azerbaijani activist Jabbar Savalan?

Reviewed:Mosque City of Bagerhat

Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 02:43, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Size, newness, hook, ref all check out. Khazar has already reviewed an article, so this one is good to go. --Starstriker7^(Talk) 04:49, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Cartonema

• ... that the genus Cartonema is a member of the Commelinaceae family and, like all members of the this family, the ultimate inflorescence unit is a cincinnus?

Created by Djlayton4 (talk). Nominated by MauchoEagle (talk) at 23:30, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed #Badai Pasti Berlalu (novel), Badai Pasti Berlalu (film), Badai Pasti Berlalu (album), Badai Pasti Berlalu (song) ([40]) mauchoeagle _(c) 00:05, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

ALT1: that the dayflower family genus Cartonema is completely restricted to Australia except for one species that occurs on Trangan Island in Indonesia?

ALT2: that the genus Cartonema was formerly thought to be the only genus in its own family called Cartonemataceae, but is now known to be the earliest diverging clade in the dayflower family?

offline sources AGF, date and hooks fine, hope length also, I personally prefer ALT1 as requiring the least knowledge of specific terms to understand it, linked dayflower, Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:43, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 17

First Peoples Buffalo Jump State Park

• ... that the bison bone bed at First Peoples Buffalo Jump State Park in Montana is 13 feet (4.0 m) deep (bison depicted)?

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 14:08, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Joan Martorell

Cambusbarron

• ... that the then-closed Hayford Mill in Cambusbarron, Scotland was used during World War I as a training base by the King's Own Scottish Borderers and is now a Category A listed building?

• Reviewed Thomas Morton (shipwright) ([41]) Alzarian16 (talk) 13:10, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Created by Alzarian16 (talk). Self nom at 13:08, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length date and hook reference checks out. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 13:29, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Return (film)

• ... that the 2011 indie film Return, directed by Liza Johnson and starring Linda Cardellini, was the only U.S. film selected for this year's 25-film Cannes Film Festival Director's Fortnight?

• Reviewed: Classic Aircraft Aviation Museum ([42])

Created by Lexein (talk). Self nom at 12:21, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

United States military chaplain symbols

• ... that the first Jewish chaplain in the U.S. Navy wore a cross, but the first Christian chaplains in the U.S. Army did not?

Created by NearTheZoo (talk). Self-nominated at 01:28, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

• The hook originally had no link to the DYK article. I added one, without changing the text of the hook at all. But if someone has a better way of integrating it, please edit the hook or suggest an ALT. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 06:26, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

José Zabala-Santos

• ...that José Zabala-Santos is one of the respected names in the Philippine cartoon and comics industry?

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 00:01, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed by User:Jeanne boleyn. Everything seems to check out. Reference backs up the hook.

The Street That Cut Everything

• ... that residents of a street in the British town of Preston went without council services for six weeks as part of a BBC documentary ?

Created by TheRetroGuy (talk). Self nom at 22:45, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Good hook, ref checks out, length and date good to go. Perhaps a touch low on the notability, but I think it clears it. Entertaining read, too. -- Khazar (talk) 05:40, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Polytrichum juniperinum

• ... that the Polytrichum juniperinum has important medicinal uses because it is believed to be a form of a diuretic?

Created by Vvvolmar (talk). Nominated by Guoguo12 (talk) at 20:15, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• • Reviewed Dickie Morris (directly below). Guoguo12--Talk--  20:22, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• length, hook, and references check out. --Kevmin § 05:53, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Dickie Morris

• ... that Welsh footballer Dickie Morris became the first Plymouth Argyle player to be capped at senior international level in April 1908?

Created by Argyle 4 Life (talk). Self nom at 19:41, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Green Versace "jungle" dress of Jennifer Lopez [43]

• AGF for offline book source. Guoguo12--Talk--  20:19, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Kalantaka

• ... that the icon of "the Death of Death" is popular in South India?

• Reviewed: Janardhan Mitta

Created by Redtigerxyz (talk). Self nom at 17:56, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good, offline ref for hook accepted AGF. Could use some cleanup (splitting up big paragraphs and the like) and a more interesting hook. Would you mind reviewing the nomination for Giles Muhame? Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:18, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Wo gehest du hin? BWV 166

• ... that a chorale in Bach's cantata Wo gehest du hin? BWV 166, is sung by the soprano, accompanied by the violins and viola in unison "of great vigour and determination"?

• Comment: I created the article - travelling - on an awfully slow connection. Will expand and review on Thursday, but would like to see it on Sunday 22 May.

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 17:23, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed: #Black Givenchy dress of Audrey Hepburn, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:15, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Ghanaian Optician

• ... that opticians in Ghana are trained at the Optical Technician Training Institute (OTTI) at Oyoko?

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 14:47, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed British Film Institute Fellowship [[44]]

Article contains no reliable sources, doesn't contain 1500 characters once you remove the lead which is plagiarized from Optician, and is proposed to merge to Eyecare in Ghana anyway. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:06, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

9th (Eastern and Home Counties) Parachute Battalion

• ... that Paratroop Dog Glen of the 9th Parachute Battalion was killed during the Normandy Landings and is buried in a British war cemetery?

Self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 10:20, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Robin Turner (footballer) [45]

• - The title of the new article must be in bold and linked to the new article. I am sorry if I am wrong, but in the case of this hook it is not the article's title which is bolded. Date is ok, size ok, reference ok.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 10:36, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• I think that everything is ok now, after the hook has been changed to contain the name of the article.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 10:48, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Ramone Moore

• ... that Temple basketball player Ramone Moore was suspended in his freshman year for failing to meet school eligibility rules?

• Reviewed: Daily Times of Nigeria

Created by Editorofthewiki (talk). Self nom at 00:46, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Only 2x expansion within last 5 days.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:30, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Note: move to mainspace date. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 00:46, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• New article, created in user space on May 9 and moved to article space on May 17. Other criteria such as size and hook ref also check out. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:35, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Robin Turner (footballer)

• ... that Robin David Turner played as a forward in The Football League for Colchester United?

Created by Jasonakagary88 (talk). Nominated by MauchoEagle (talk) at 00:27, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed #Crossopriza lyoni. mauchoeagle _(c) 00:30, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Article at Prose size (text only): 270 characters (42 words) "readable prose size" is way to small for DKY.Jim Sweeney (talk) 10:23, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Yup. Nominator may not be aware that infobox text doesn't count towards the total, though it doesn't look like it would pass anyway (perhaps nom was including the characters in the editing box rather than in the article as it appears). Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 01:59, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

PSCORE

• ... that NGO PSCORE uses the term Corea to promote North Korean and South Korean unity?

Created by Cbyoon90 (talk). Nominated by Crisco 1492 (talk) at 06:59, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: William Rogers (engraver) (diff). Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:01, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• all checks out. Johnbod (talk) 16:19, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

British Film Institute Fellowship

• ... that French actress Isabelle Huppert (pictured) is the most recent recipient of the British Film Institute Fellowship award?

Created by The Rambling Man (talk). Self nom at 12:16, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Zoo City here. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:15, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Tweaked the hook a little (added (pictured). Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:30, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Date, size and hook are all as required for DYK status. Good to go. CrossTempleJay  talk 14:43, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Booker T. Washington High School (Memphis, Tennessee)

• ... that U.S. President Barack Obama delivered the 2011 commencement speech at Booker T. Washington High School in Memphis, Tennessee?

5x expanded by Pdcook (talk), FleetfootMike (talk). Self nom at 02:41, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

• I've never nominated an article for DYK before, so please let me know if I have screwed something up. Thanks, P. D. Cook ^{Talk to me!} 02:43, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but you're only at 1375 characters. The article needs to be at least 1500 characters. Other than that, the article looks great and the date and ref checks out. Luckily, the expansion only started yesterday, so if someone just adds 125 characters of worthy prose in the next couple days, this would be all set. Congrats to the school! PhantomPlugger (talk) 03:24, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Oops, I guess I was looking at prose size + html. I'll expand it more tomorrow. Thanks for the review, P. D. Cook ^{Talk to me!} 03:28, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

I suggest you use this tool to check prose size. It doesn't seem to understand revision dates very well, especially with regards to userspace drafts, but it is the generally accepted standard for prose size as it is specifically programmed for the byzantine rules of DYK prose size. PhantomPlugger (talk) 03:46, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

I added that tool and expanded the article in question. It looks like it's over 1600 characters now. Thanks! P. D. Cook ^{Talk to me!} 04:06, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Good work! All set. PhantomPlugger (talk) 04:22, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Sweet! Thanks! P. D. Cook ^{Talk to me!} 04:24, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 18

Billy Schaeffer

• ... that as a senior in 1972–73, St. John's University basketball standout Billy Schaeffer averaged a school record 24.7 points per game en route to winning the Haggerty Award?

• Reviewed: José Zabala-Santos

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 13:20, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

List of human diseases associated with infectious pathogens

• ... that diseases such as obesity, Alzheimer's, and cancer have been associated with infectious pathogens (toxoplasma gandii pictured)? ?

Created by Drgao (talk). Nominated by Crisco 1492 (talk) at 12:29, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Formicium (diff) - Crisco 1492

Thomas Morton (shipwright)

• ... that 19th Century shipwright Thomas Morton invented the widely used patent slip because he couldn't afford a dry dock?

• The article is bottom end length-wise, but I like the hook ;) There are possible images here and here, but they don't strike me as brilliant - so I leave that decision to the reviewer :) --Errant ^(chat!) 11:49, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
• Reviewed #Geograpsus severnsi --Errant ^(chat!) 12:37, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Created by ErrantX (talk). Self nom at 11:46, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

• Length and date check out, hook is fine assuming book source is OK. It is a bit short, but 1680 characters seems to be enough in this case. If an image is to be used, I think the second is better suited to the main page, but it's not essential for the hook to work. Alzarian16 (talk) 13:02, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Formicium

• ... that the extinct giant ant genus Formicium is known only from forewings found in Dorset, England and Tennessee, USA?

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 07:01, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Polytrichum juniperinum

. Length and date check out. Hook fact seems to be in the main body of the paper. Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:16, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Geograpsus severnsi

• ... that Geograpsus severnsi is the first crab species known to have gone extinct in historical times?

• Reviewed: VXE-6 ([46])

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 06:42, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

• . Lenght and date check out. Hook is in main body & I verified it in the cite. --Errant ^(chat!) 12:36, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Kartam Joga

• ... that adivasi activist Kartam Joga has been accused of joining the deadliest Naxalite attack in India's history?

Reviewed:The Street That Cut Everything

Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 05:33, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

• . Length, date hoof reference check out. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 13:13, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Joan Martorell

• ... that Modernisme architect Joan Martorell headed the committee that in 1883 selected Antoni Gaudí to complete the still-unfinished Sagrada Familia?

• Reviewed: Columbia Club (diff)

Created by Cmprince (talk). Self nom at 04:03, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

• Unfortunately, this article is not new. And it is not a five-fold expansion from the last major update on March 15, 2011. - Tim1965 (talk) 14:01, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Actually, the article is new. It was moved from the userspace sandbox on May 17. PhantomPlugger (talk) 14:07, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Columbia Club

• ... that Hoosier Group artist T.C. Steele sometimes paid his Columbia Club (pictured) membership dues in paintings?

• Reviewed: Booker T. Washington High School (Memphis, Tennessee)
• Comment: Moved into mainspace May 18 UTC.

Created by PhantomPlugger (talk). Self nom at 03:38, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

ALT1: "... that the Columbia Club (pictured) has hosted every Republican president while in office or campaigning since Benjamin Harrison in 1888?"

Which is better? PhantomPlugger (talk) 03:38, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Hook, length and article age all check out. I always wondered what this building was. The ALT seems a little "hookier" to me. Cmprince (talk) 04:09, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Now you know! The interior of the building is equally, if not more, impressive. Quite a gem. PhantomPlugger (talk) 04:19, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Special occasion holding area

Do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, please nominate them in the candidate entries section above under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially-timed appearance on the Main Page.

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual. Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination, but no more than six weeks before the occasion. April Fools' Day is an exception to these requirements - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.

June 2 (Feast of the Ascension)

Ascension of Jesus in Christian art

• ... that the depictions of the Ascension of Jesus in Christian art (pictured) are often divided into an upper (heavenly) and lower (earthly) part?

• Reviewed: 1926 FA Cup Final

Created by History2007 (talk). Self nom at 21:50, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

• Comment: Here is the G-book link for the hook (is also in the article). History2007 (talk) 21:03, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

• Comment: will be appropriate for Feast of the Ascension, June 2, 2011. History2007 (talk) 21:03, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

the hook, date, length, references all check out so I'll pass this for DYK. Now, as for some feedback on the article, you don't "usually" need sources for the info in the lead. The idea is that the info in the lead should be an overview of information in the article. Also consolidate some of your sources when you get a chance, I see some repeats in there (see citation pages on Wiki for the html templates). But theses are all suggestions for GA status or B-class rating. I also moved you up to a C-class rating for you because it is a good article and well written. look forward to seeing it on the front page, Cheers! Kayz911 (talk) 05:34, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

June 5

Marga T, Badai Pasti Berlalu (novel), Badai Pasti Berlalu (film), Badai Pasti Berlalu (album), Badai Pasti Berlalu (song)

• ... that Marga T's novel Badai Pasti Berlalu spawned a critically acclaimed film, album, and song?

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:21, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Mark Edward (diff), Sanjak of Prizren (diff), Voalavo (diff), and San Cristóbal de las Casas (diff). Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:21, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Also, if possible could we have it for June 5th (when the novel started its original run as a serial in Kompas)? Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:28, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Length, date and sources verified. Good to go.mauchoeagle _(c) 00:01, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

How about the date? Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:40, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

I would suggest you not do that, putting hooks on a special day is reserved only for special occasions. `mauchoeagle _(c)

Alright. Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:11, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

The definition of "special occasion" is generally construed broadly for DYK, so as long as its within six weeks, it's fine, so I've moved this to the special occasion holding area. It's too bad there isn't a Badai Pasti Berlalu play, as with five articles in a single hook, you can make the DYK Hall of Fame. OCNative (talk) 12:25, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

I 5x'd Marga T. Could I add it to the hook? Not sure how though, since both the kinds of expansion and dates are different. Also needs to be reviewed... Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:15, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Hermann Kasack, Die Stadt hinter dem Strom (diff). Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:30, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

I've made the appropriate changes to this nom to add Marga T. Someone else will need to review the article, as I've got to run right now. OCNative (talk) 14:34, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

June 6 (Queensland Day)

Anzac Avenue

• ... that Anzac Avenue is the longest World War I memorial road in Queensland?

Reviewed: Amie mac Ruari ([47])

5x expanded by Lankiveil (talk). Self nom at 01:45, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

• All checks out - ready to go. Harrison49 (talk) 16:14, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good indeed. I just think it's a shame you couldn't use it on the main page today as it's ANZAC day. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 21:16, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks. That was the intention, but you know, procrastination ;). Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 22:44, 25 April 2011 (UTC).

Queensland "was named in honour of Queen Victoria, who on 6 June 1859 signed Letters Patent separating the colony from New South Wales." (Copied from Queensland#Etymology.) So 6 June 2011, which is only a few weeks ahead, may be a good day to put a photo of this street in Queensland on MainPage. --PFHLai (talk) 18:27, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

I hadn't thought of doing it as a Queensland Day one, but I quite like the idea, and have no objections at all! 110.174.224.43 (talk) 08:40, 3 May 2011 (UTC).

Please be encouraged to get a good photo to go with the hook. You still have 4 weeks. Lots of time. :-) --PFHLai (talk) 14:08, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

June 12 (Pentecost)

Ipomopsis sancti-spiritus

• ... that the Holy Ghost ipomopsis found in the Sangre de Cristo Mountains in New Mexico is predicted to become extinct in 50 years?

Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 02:48, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, and hook reference (3) all check out. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 08:41, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Shall we wait for Pentecost? Probably a little too far ahead in future.... --PFHLai (talk) 17:29, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Good idea. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 11:20, 28 April 2011 (UTC)