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Olaf Scholz A suicide bombing by the Balochistan Liberation Army at the Quetta railway station, Pakistan, kills 27 people. The German ruling coalition (Chancellor Olaf Scholz pictured) collapses over disagreements on economic policies. Donald Trump wins the United States presidential election. Maia Sandu is re-elected President of Moldova. In baseball, the Yokohama DeNA BayStars defeat the Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks to win the Japan Series. Ongoing: Israel–Hamas war Israel–Hezbollah conflict Russian invasion of Ukraine timeline Sudanese civil war timeline Recent deaths: Judith Jamison June Spencer John Nott Ram Narayan Elwood Edwards Anna Lo view — page history — related changes — edit

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June 10

Portal:Current events/2024 June 10

June 10, 2024 (2024-06-10) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Crimea attacks Ukraine's military says that its missile strikes near Yevpatoriya and Chornomorske in Russian-occupied Crimea damaged three Russian air defense systems. (Reuters) Eastern Ukraine campaign The Russian Defence Ministry says that its forces have recaptured the village of Staromaiorske in Donetsk Oblast. (Fakti) (Reuters) Military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War The United States lifts a ban on sending U.S. weaponry to Ukraine's Azov Brigade. (The Washington Post) Sudanese civil war Battle of El Fasher The last remaining operational hospital in Al-Fashir, North Darfur, closes down after being stormed and looted by the Rapid Support Forces, according to Médecins Sans Frontières. (The Guardian) Nigerian bandit conflict At least 50 people are killed and an unknown number are kidnapped, including women and children, when gunmen attack the village of Yargoje in Katsina State, Nigeria. (Al Arabiya) Somali civil war At least 55 people are killed and 155 others are injured in fighting between the Dir and Marehan clans in central Somalia. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents 2024 Brazil wildfires It is reported that wildfires have burned around 32,000 hectares (79,000 acres) of tropical wetland in Brazil's Pantanal so far this year, a 935% increase in the number of fires that occurred in the same period last year. (BBC News) 2024 Chikangawa Dornier 228 crash An aircraft carrying Malawian Vice-President Saulos Chilima and nine others is reported missing while flying from Lilongwe to Mzuzu. (BBC News) Forty-nine migrants, mostly from Ethiopia and Somalia, are killed and 140 are missing after their boat capsizes off the coast of Yemen. (Al Jazeera) Three people are killed in floods and landslides in Hà Giang province, Vietnam. (France 24) Law and crime Belarus–European Union border crisis Poland announces a "no-go zone" in the Białowieża Forest in order to prevent migrants from crossing the border from Belarus. In response, concerns are raised about the potential impact on tourism during the summer. (Reuters) Doe v. Chiquita Brands International, Right-wing paramilitarism in Colombia After 17 years of litigation, Chiquita Brands International is found liable by a jury in United States Federal Court of financing the far-right paramilitary death squad United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia in the Antioquia and Magdalena Departments of Colombia. (EarthRights International) Four American instructors from Cornell College in Iowa, United States, and one Chinese passerby are wounded in a stabbing attack at a park in Jilin City, China. The perpetrator is arrested a day later. (CNA) (NPR) A Spanish court sentences three men to eight months in prison for racist chants directed towards Brazilian football player Vinícius Júnior. (NPR) Politics and elections Israel–Hamas war Israel–Hamas war protests The United States Consulate General in Sydney, Australia, is vandalized by a pro-Palestinian activist. (NBC News) United Nations Security Council Resolution 2735 The United Nations Security Council votes 14–0, with Russia abstaining, to back the ceasefire proposal outlined by US President Joe Biden. (Reuters) 2024 Belgian federal election 2024 Belgian government formation Following resignation of De Croo, government formation talks begin.(Al Jazeera) The New Flemish Alliance win the highest percent of votes in the federal election, followed by Vlaams Belang and the Reformist Movement. (VRT) Belgian Prime Minister Alexander De Croo resigns after his party Open Flemish Liberals and Democrats loses to centre-right and conservative parties. (Al Jazeera) 2024 Armenian protests Several large protests are held in Yerevan, Armenia, calling for Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan to resign due to Armenia ceding territory to Azerbaijan in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. (Al Jazeera) 2024 Bulgarian parliamentary election No party attains a majority in the Bulgarian National Assembly, with GERB attaining a plurality of seats. (Euronews) Science and technology Apple holds its 2024 Worldwide Developers Conference in Cupertino, California, United States, unveiling its Apple Intelligence, iOS 18, iPadOS 18, MacOS Sequoia, and more. (Reuters)

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June 9

Portal:Current events/2024 June 9

June 9, 2024 (2024-06-09) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Insurgency in Jammu and Kashmir 2024 Reasi attack Nine people are killed and 41 others are injured near Reasi, Jammu and Kashmir, India, when a bus carrying Hindu pilgrims falls into a ravine after being shot at. (Al Jazeera) Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa 2024 Lakki Marwat bombing An IED kills seven Pakistan Army personnel in Lakki Marwat District, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan. (Reuters) Israel–Hezbollah conflict Two people are killed in Israeli airstrikes near Aitaroun, Lebanon, according to the National News Agency. (Al Jazeera) Arts and culture President Bernardo Arévalo announced that the remains of Guatemalan writer and 1967 Nobel Prize winner for Literature, Miguel Ángel Asturias, would be repatriated to Guatemala. Asturias is buried in the Père Lachaise Cemetery in Paris, France. (DW) International relations North Korea–South Korea relations South Korea announces that it will resume loudspeaker broadcasts over the Korean Demilitarized Zone for the first time since 2018 in response to North Korea sending hundreds of balloons carrying garbage across the border. (BBC News) Law and crime Cannabis in Slovenia Slovenian voters approve the use of cannabis for medicinal and recreational use in adults. (STA) Politics and elections Israel–Hamas war Israeli war cabinet War Cabinet Minister Benny Gantz resigns after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu failed to present a post-war plan for Gaza by Gantz's previously announced June 8 deadline. Minister Gadi Eisenkot also resigns. (BBC News) 2024 Belgian federal election Belgians vote for the 150 members of the Chamber of Representatives as well as for regional representatives and members of the European Parliament. (The Guardian) June 2024 Bulgarian parliamentary election Bulgarians vote for the sixth time in three years to elect the 240 members of the parliament. (DW) 2024 European Parliament election The last day of the European Parliament elections takes place, with voting occurring in 20 countries. (AP) 2024 French legislative election Following major losses for French President Emmanuel Macron's Renaissance party in the European Parliament elections, Macron dissolves the National Assembly and calls snap elections for June 30 and July 7. (Reuters) 2024 Indian general election Narendra Modi is sworn in for his third term as Prime Minister of India. (Al Jazeera) 2024 Mexican general election Mexico's ruling party Morena and its coalition allies win a supermajority in the Chamber of Deputies but not in the Senate, falling short of the two-thirds majority needed to change the Constitution. (Reuters) 2024 San Marino general election Sammarinese elect the members of the Grand and General Council. (Libertas) 2024 South Ossetian parliamentary election Parliamentary elections are held in the Georgian breakaway region of South Ossetia. (Anadolu Ajansi) 2024 Swiss referendums Voters in Switzerland reject limits on healthcare spending and an initiative against compulsory vaccination, while approving the initiative of a new law on electricity. (Swissinfo) Sports 2024 French Open In tennis, Carlos Alcaraz wins the Men's singles title at the French Open after defeating Alexander Zverev in the final, earning his third Grand Slam title. (AP)

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French Open

Article: 2024 French Open (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In tennis, Iga Świątek wins the Women's Singles and Carlos Alcaraz wins the Men's Singles at the French Open. (Post)
News source(s): Women's singles, Men's Singles
Credits:

• Nominated by PrinceofPunjab (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: This year's article has prose which various previous grand slam nominations lacked. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 17:47, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

RD: Siri Kannangara

Article: Siri Kannangara (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Sunday Times, Daily FT
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Abishe (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Inducted to the Football Australia Hall of Fame in 2002. He was also conferred with a Member (AM) in the General Division of the Order of Australia during 2013 Queen's Birthday Honours (Australia). Abishe (talk) 17:03, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

RD/blurb: Michael Mosley

Article: Michael Mosley (broadcaster) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Michael Mosley's body is found after he went missing on Symi for several days. (Post)
News source(s): ABC, BBC, ITV, NYT, NZ Herald
Credits:

• Nominated by Ollieisanerd (talk · give credit)
• Created by Tim bates (talk · give credit)
• Updated by BabbaQ (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Date found dead. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 08:40, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

• Wait for confirmation. Most sources I'm seeing are saying it's "believed to be" him so shouldn't post prematurely as a BLP issue.  — Amakuru (talk) 08:59, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

  Yeah, but the mayor has said it was likely him.

  Seeing that they're saying cause of death is likely heat and dehydration.

  178.19.184.210 (talk) 178.19.184.210 (talk) 09:32, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

  • A mayor is not a coroner and the key word is likely. Nothing will happen if we wait a few hours for a formal identification and declaration. Think how you would feel if the world's online encyclopedia confirmed your loved one dead before you had been to inspect the body Unknown Temptation (talk) 10:45, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
• Blurb Identification seems likely to be a formality now. It's worthy of a blurb because his mysterious disappearance has been front-page news lately and the readership has been correspondingly high – greater than William Anders, for example. And it's international news; for example: "British TV Doctor Michael Mosley Found Dead in Greece" in the New York Times. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:18, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb If he is all that great of a British journalist, his article is nowhere close to a standard that would be appropriate for a blurb. I see some facets that might lead to that impression but nowhere close to demonstrating him as a great figure in British TV news presenting. We also, again, do not use page views to judge ITN appropriateness. --Masem (t) 12:16, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb While he's well known in the UK, he's not particularly known globally. 31.44.224.73 (talk) 12:33, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb, far from being the transformative figure in journalism. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 12:55, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb Not a transformative figure, which is the general criteria for a death blurb to be posted. And Television section needs more sources before being posted to RD. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:18, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

  I don't support a blurb either, but surely in this case the criteria would be "death is the story" rather than him being "transformative." Pawnkingthree (talk) 13:27, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

  In that case, the death isn't a major news story either. Unusual, yes, front-page story, probably not. And not every unusual RD has to be a blurb. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 13:30, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

  The story was on the front page of most UK papers today. And that's after days of similar coverage. And all that's before the body was found so there will be even more tomorrow. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:43, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Support RD oppose blurb Article looks good and was a notable figure in the uk Sharrdx (talk) 13:58, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb his disappearance was in the news for a few days, while he probably died of natural causes. This isn't a Lord Lucan or a Madeleine McCann. I don't know a lot about dieting, but I highly doubt that Mosley's work was as noted in the field as Dr Atkins, for example. Unknown Temptation (talk) 14:04, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb Good for RD but this isn't big enough for a blurb. Johndavies837 (talk) 14:58, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. Most of the Television section is unreferenced. - SchroCat (talk) 20:31, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

June 8

Portal:Current events/2024 June 8

June 8, 2024 (2024-06-08) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Israel–Hamas war hostage crisis 2024 Nuseirat rescue operation The Israel Defence Forces airstrikes and raids the Nuseirat refugee camp in Deir al-Balah Governorate in Gaza, rescuing four hostages kidnapped by Hamas during the Re'im music festival massacre on October 7, including Noa Argamani. (CNN) Many Palestinians, including women and children, are killed and injured during the raid, with Palestinian officials claiming 236 killed and 400 wounded, while Israeli sources claim under 100 casualties. It is unknown how many casualties were civilians and how many were militants. (Reuters) (CNN) Somali Civil War Somali civil war (2009–present) 2024 El Dher attack Al-Shabaab attacked four military bases and overran the town of Dherka Derka for several hours, killing many soldiers of the Somali National Army. The militants were eventually defeated by a U.S.-assisted airstrike.(Voa Somali) 2021–2024 Democratic Republic of the Congo attacks At least 41 people are killed in an overnight attack in Beni, Democratic Republic of the Congo. Local leaders suspect the Allied Democratic Forces are responsible for the attack. (Reuters) Business and economy Economic impact of the Israel–Hamas war, Colombia–Israel relations Colombia announces the suspension of coal exports to Israel stating that it will resume exports after Israel complies with the International Court of Justice provisional measure of protection and stops its genocide in Gaza. (AP) Disasters and accidents Doctors Without Borders recovers 11 bodies and rescues dozens of migrants off the coast of Libya. (Al Jazeera) Law and crime Censorship in Vietnam Police in Vietnam arrest journalist Huy Đức and lawyer Tran Dinh Trien over Facebook posts. (Reuters) Politics and elections 2024 European Parliament election Elections to the European Parliament continue, with Slovakia, Italy, the Czech Republic, Latvia, and Malta voting today. (Al Jazeera) Sports 2024 French Open In tennis, Iga Świątek wins the Women's singles title at the French Open after defeating Jasmine Paolini, becoming the third woman to win three consecutive titles in the Open Era. (CNN)

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RD: Chet Walker

Article: Chet Walker (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

N.B.A. Player and Movie Producer.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 10:24, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

• Still needs a lot of sourcing work, though better than when I looked at this yesterday. Natg 19 (talk) 17:20, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

RD: Ramoji Rao

Article: Ramoji Rao (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Economic Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Need Work .Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:32, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

June 7

Portal:Current events/2024 June 7

June 7, 2024 (2024-06-07) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war International reactions to the Israel–Hamas war United Nations advisors announce that it intends to add the Israeli military, Hamas, and Palestinian Islamic Jihad to their list of countries and armed groups that harm children in their upcoming "Children and Armed Conflict" report. (The New York Times) (Reuters) Humanitarian aid during the Israel–Hamas war The United States reinstalls the temporary Gaza floating pier after weather-related damage had to be repaired. (Al Jazeera) Yemeni civil war Red Sea crisis The Houthis detain 11 Yemeni employees of United Nations agencies and others working for aid groups. (AP) According to a Houthi-run television station, the United States and the United Kingdom carry out six airstrikes on Hodeida International Airport, the Port of Salif, and Al-Thawrah, Yemen. (Al Jazeera) Sudanese civil war Battle of Khartoum At least 40 people are killed and 50 others are injured in an attack by the Rapid Support Forces in Omdurman, Sudan. (Al Jazeera) Arts and culture Pat Sajak steps down as host of the American television game show Wheel of Fortune, having hosted the show for 41 years. (Associated Press) Disasters and accidents RICH nightclub railing collapse A glass railing collapses outside the overcrowded RICH nightclub in Mexico, causing several concertgoers to fall three stories, killing two and injuring 15. (El Universal) Apollo 8 astronaut William Anders is killed in a plane crash near San Juan County, Washington, United States. (CBS News) Law and crime Attack on Mette Frederiksen Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen is shoved by a man, who has since been arrested, in Copenhagen, Denmark. (CNN) Austrian-Canadian billionaire businessman Frank Stronach is arrested on sexual assault charges dating from the 1980s to 2023. (AP) Politics and elections 2024 European Parliament election Elections to the European Parliament continues, with Ireland and the Czech Republic voting today. (Euronews)

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RD: Warren Winiarski

Article: Warren Winiarski (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Warren Winiarski, whose Napa wine triumphed over France, dies at 95
Credits:

• Nominated by TheCorriynial (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

As the then owner of Stag's Leap Wine Cellars, in 1976, his wineries 1973 vintage Cabernet Sauvignon was entered into the Judgement of Paris (wine), where it won, and made it famous and Napa Valley wines as well. He also seems to be a well known Preservationist. TheCorriynial (talk) 18:50, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

RD/blurb: William Anders

Article: William Anders (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  William Anders, who took the Earthrise photograph (pictured) in 1968 dies in a plane crash aged 90 (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Apollo 8 astronaut William Anders, who took the Earthrise photo (pictured), dies in a plane crash aged 90
News source(s): Fox, AP, CNN
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Hawkeye7 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:37, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support RD when ready, oppose blurb. Natg 19 (talk) 23:44, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

  Is there anything you think is wrong with the article? Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:46, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

  Overall, looks fine, but did not do a full review. Natg 19 (talk) 23:59, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support RD, Neutral blurb. Wait for official confirmation. B3251_(talk) 23:47, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

  What counts as official? I've been waiting all week for confirmation. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 00:42, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

  At the time, the only publication that reported on the incident was a television station which used his aircraft to make the connection. Now that it's been confirmed by family and more widespread publication, it's good now. B3251_(talk) 03:25, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support Alternate Blurb (which mentions Apollo 8), Anders was one of the first three humans to fly to and orbit the Moon, he participated in the Apollo 8 Genesis reading and, iconically, took the Earthrise photograph. Extremely worthy of having a lead blurb with Earthrise as an image. Randy Kryn (talk) 00:44, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support Blurb One of the most notable astronauts, on the first mission which flew to the Moon, and he also took an iconic photo of Earth. The way he died is also unusual. Johndavies837 (talk) 01:06, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
• Altblurb added. Johndavies837 (talk) 01:10, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support Blurb Article is in great shape, as I'd expect for a GA-tier article. He had a very significant and transformative career; as Randy mentioned, the Earthrise photograph itself had a lasting impact. (the fact that it's a Featured Picture is a testament to that)) On top of that, the death is unusual; it was for that reason that we blurbed the death of Kobe Bryant back in 2020. I echo that we should also use Earthrise as the photo. Nottheking (talk) 01:22, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support RD, oppose blurb While the Earthrise photo is indeed extremely well-known, the person behind it is far from a household name, and doesn't fit the high standards of a death blurb. Although, if it is possible, it would be great to have Earthrise as our image even if he is only in RD. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 01:28, 8 June 2024 (UTC)\
  • Will say only once more, again, one of the first three humans to fly to and orbit the Moon. If he is not blurb worthy then nobody is, and Wikipedia should stop publishing blurbs. Randy Kryn (talk) 01:39, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

  Stop posting death blurbs, you say? I'm down. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 02:29, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

  It's not an "all or nothing", and many people (even in the field of astronautics) are more well-known than him. Yes, that one accomplishment is impressive, but he was not the only one on this mission, and they aren't as well-remembered as, say, Neil or Buzz. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 01:50, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support RD, neutral on blurb The article is rated Good, so it should be sufficient for posting. rawmustard (talk) 01:30, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
• Procedural support RD; strong oppose blurb - not a serving head of state/government This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 01:36, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

  You act like we can only blurb the deaths of incumbent heads of government or state, when this is fact not so. I distinctly remember we recently posted OJ Simpson's Death as well as that of Peter Higgs, in spite of neither man having been an incumbent anything at the time of their death.

  I think we certainly shouldn't have posted either of those, as neither death (as an event) had a notable impact This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 05:52, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

  The key thing to recognize here is that we routinely blurb deaths (and other events) that aren't ITN/R; that's why this has a yellow box, rather than green. An incumbent head of government dying inherently means a change of head of government, thus it's ITN/R and green. Deaths can very much be elevated to blurbing, for any reason of the deceased being "transformative" in their field, as well as the death itself being unusual/newsworthy. The former has a strong argument (if still debatable) but as for the latter, the rule does seem to be that anyone with a Wikipedia article dying in an aircraft accident (such as Ted Stevens or Kobe Bryant) is almost always blurbed, even when they're well beyond being in the spotlight. Nottheking (talk) 03:15, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

  The point (and the problem with those postings) is that neither of those ought to have been blurbed. The death should be notable as an event in and of itself, which random plane crashes are not This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 05:53, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

  Not sure how you can possibly say Kobe Bryant shouldn't have been posted. A NBA superstar who recently retired unexpectedly dying in a helicopter crash is a massive story and the way he died was undeniably a big part of why the death was so big. Death blurbs aren't just limited to heads of state or government. Jbvann05 17:53, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support altburb The articles are highly important for and changed the world history. ArionStar (talk) 02:05, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
• Strong Support An extremely influential person whose article is a GA and his manner of death is also noteworthy. I prefer Alt blurb. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 04:07, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
• Comment I can support a blurb, but focusing on the Earthrise photo when he's far more recognized for a distinguished military/astronaut career overall, is inappropriate. Focus on him and the sudden death. --Masem (t) 04:16, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support RD, weak oppose blurb While it is a notable person who died, the death is not notable in and of itself. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 06:37, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb - RIP to one of humanity's greatest heroes. He died as he lived. But yeah, the first human to fly to the Moon (along with Lovell and Borman) is definitely notable enough for a blurb. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 07:22, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support RD, oppose blurb per Chaotic Enby. I think the only astronaut we should blurb his passing is Buzz Aldrin. The others don't reach the level of notability we should demand and ITN is for. _-_Alsor (talk) 10:11, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support altblurb A notable and tragic ending for one of the few living men (only 6 left now) to have been to the Moon. The articles themselves look good. CDE34RFV (talk) 10:13, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support RD, oppose blurb per Chaotic Enby. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 14:49, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support Notable individual that surprisingly did not die from natural causes Scaramouche33 (talk) 17:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support RD, oppose blurb per Chaotic Enby. This is what RD is for. Not every event connected to space flight needs to be in the blurb. Nigej (talk) 20:46, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

  "Not every every event connected to spaceflight...". Anders is one of the three people to first leave Earth's orbit, Earth's gravitational influence, to be captured by another astronomical bodies gravitational field, to arrive at the Moon, and to personally see the far side of the Moon. Yes, just an average spaceflight event (!???). Randy Kryn (talk) 22:30, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

  The event was important, as were other Apollo program milestones, and would itself have obviously been blurb-worthy, but it doesn't make every person on board worthy of a death blurb's extremely high notability bar. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:36, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

  Chaotic Enby, there were three persons on board, the first to go the Moon (a human race civilizational milestone of extraordinary proportion). How do all three not pass what you call an extremely high notability bar? Randy Kryn (talk) 23:11, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

  The mission is clearly very notable but that doesn't necessarily mean that all the people on it are so important. There's a big difference. Nigej (talk) 08:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

  That's a bit of a catch-22 argument there. Because under those grounds, it's used to just dismiss all people from being important. William Anders was the one that gave us the photo & quotes that brought the mission into the public memory. Nottheking (talk) 20:32, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support RD, oppose blurb per Chaotic Enby, they put it quite well. Ornithoptera (talk) 22:52, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support RD, oppose Blurb Per chaotic enby. Sharrdx (talk) 01:03, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb Article's in good shape, one of the few people to leave low Earth orbit and his death is quite uncommon especially given his age. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 07:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support RD, oppose blurb per Chaotic Enby. The Kip ^(contribs) 07:45, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support alt blurb Very notable for taking that photo, article is also a GA. Quite an unusual death too, having not died of natural causes. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 08:51, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support alt blurb Per Ollieisanerd. 31.44.224.73 (talk) 12:43, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb This is what RD is for. Pawnkingthree (talk) 15:27, 9 June 2024 (UTC)Ðg
• Oppose blurb OMD -- Kicking222 (talk) 20:16, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support Photo RD This isn't a classic case of OMD, given the plane crash. But as the death toll is one man of an advanced age, (relatively) far from civilization, any presumed aftermath shan't exactly be a long, hard nor winding trip for the FAA, FEMA or SJCC, either. OMPC, if you will, and the story seems to check out, sourcewise. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:37, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb. One of many Apollo astronauts, did great work but not a Thatcher or Mandela figure in his own right. Quite something to go all the way to the moon, make it to 90 and then to sadly die in a plane crash...  — Amakuru (talk) 23:03, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support RD/Oppose Blurb per Chaotic Enby 108.49.72.125 (talk) 00:35, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

RD: Rose-Marie (singer)

Article: Rose-Marie (singer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Zevabelle40 (talk · give credit)

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Northern Irish singer and television personality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zevabelle40 (talk • contribs) 17:37, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Oppose selected discography section do not have any sources. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 04:10, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

RD: Nicholas Ball (actor)

Article: Nicholas Ball (actor) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The National
Credits:

• Nominated by Duke of New Gwynedd (talk · give credit)

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English actor known for EastEnders and Hazell. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 09:16, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Article is stub in terms of thorough details/info about his early life, career, etc. Filmography section is unsourced. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 10:00, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Oppose article is a stub and filmography is unsourced. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 13:02, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

June 6

Portal:Current events/2024 June 6

June 6, 2024 (2024-06-06) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip Attacks on schools during the Israeli invasion of Gaza At least 40 Palestinians, including fourteen children, are killed and more than 70 injured after an Israeli airstrike on a United Nations school that was sheltering refugees in central Gaza. (Al Jazeera) Israeli incursions in the West Bank during the Israel–Hamas war Three Palestinians are killed and several others are injured in an Israel Defense Forces raid on Jenin in the West Bank. (The Times of Israel) (Al Jazeera) Russian invasion of Ukraine Military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War President of France Emmanuel Macron announces that the country will send Dassault Mirage 2000-5 fighter aircraft to Ukraine and train its pilots by the end of 2024. (The Telegraph) Red Sea crisis The Houthis and the Islamic Resistance in Iraq claim to have launched two joint military attacks against ships at the Port of Haifa in Israel. However, Israel denies the claims. (Al Jazeera) Disasters and accidents 2024 Uttarakhand snowstorm disaster A blizzard in the Himalaya mountains of Uttarakhand, India, kills nine Indian trekkers. (Reuters) At least six people, including mostly children, drown after a school bus falls into the Orontes River near Darkush, Syria. (Asharq Al-Awsat) Six fishermen are killed and one is critically injured after a boat's engine exploded and caught the wooden hull on fire off the coast of Naga in the Philippines. (AP) One person is killed and more than 100 others are injured after two trams collide in Kemerovo, Russia. (The Moscow Times) A child is killed and at least thirteen other people are injured by tornadoes in the U.S. states of Michigan, Maryland, and Ohio. (AP) International relations France–Russia relations A French citizen is detained in Moscow, Russia, under suspicion of collecting military information. (ABC News) Georgia–United States relations The United States Department of State sanctions several Georgian Dream politicians with travel bans for passing the "Law on Transparency of Foreign Influence", threatening further penalties if Georgia continues "anti-democratic activity". (AP) Palestine–United States relations The Biden administration imposes sanctions on the Lions' Den militant group based in Nablus in the West Bank, for committing attacks in the West Bank since October 2022. (Al Jazeera) Law and crime Belarus–European Union border crisis A Polish border guard soldier dies after being stabbed by a migrant trying to cross the EU border from Belarus. (Reuters) Politics and elections 2024 European Parliament election Elections to the European Parliament begin and will continue until June 9, with the Netherlands and Estonia voting today. (Al Jazeera) (NOS) South Africa's genocide case against Israel Spain applies to join South Africa's case at the International Court of Justice accusing Israel of genocide. (AP) Science and technology SpaceX launches Starship's Integrated Flight Test 4, successfully guiding both the Super Heavy booster and Starship upper stage to soft water landings in the Gulf of Mexico and the Indian Ocean, respectively. (The New York Times) Sports The Oklahoma Sooners win the 2024 Women's College World Series in softball with the first-ever four-peat. (The New York Times)

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RD: T. D. Allman

Article: T. D. Allman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

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Obit published 6 June. Thriley (talk) 14:01, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Wait there is one cn tag and there are works that are unsourced, otherwise article is alright. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 04:12, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Sooners four-peat

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Article: 2024 NCAA Division I softball tournament (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Oklahoma Sooners win the 2024 Women's College World Series with the first-ever four-peat. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The Oklahoma Sooners win the 2024 Women's College World Series for the fourth consecutive season in a row.
News source(s): ESPN, NY Times, USA Today, KFOR
Credits:

• Nominated by WeatherWriter (talk · give credit)
• Created by DetroitFan7 (talk · give credit)

The first ever four-peat in college softball history. Even the NY Times called it "historic". The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 04:32, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

• I can support this (women's sports fights systemic bias) but (1) it needs a lot of prose describing what happened and why a four-peat is historic and (2) a lot of images to add interest to all the tables. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:40, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Please keep slang/jargon such as "four-peat" out of ITN. I think I can guess what it means, but I shouldn't have to guess. HiLo48 (talk) 05:17, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

@HiLo48: to note, the “four-peat” is used by all RS and is why it is notable. Google “four-peat” or “4-peat” and you see dozens of RS news articles, including those listed here. So I disagree that it should not be used in ITN, since RS uses it way more than not. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 05:21, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Also to note, “four-peat” is an actual term in the merriam-webster dictionary. So, it is not “slang” or “jargon”. Just because you don’t know what it means, doesn’t mean the rest of the world doesn’t. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 05:26, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose The Women's Softball World Cup actually takes place next month in Italy. Even that top-tier event isn't WP:ITN/R. Andrew🐉(talk) 05:59, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

@Andrew Davidson: So what? NY Times and ESPN lied? If I misread the sources, please explain what the Sooners won according to NY Times and ESPN. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 06:11, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

The NCAA tournament calls itself the "World Series", probably named after MLB World Series, but is just an American collegiate tournament rather than an international professional one. Curbon7 (talk) 06:16, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose "College team wins national tournament in minor sport for 4th time". Not exactly world news. Its not in WP:ITN/R and uses slang in its proposed form. (What on earth is a "four-peat"? Certainly not a term we use here in the UK). The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 06:07, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

@The C of E: Alt-blurb without “slang” added. Please strike the part of your oppose for that. Also, clearly you can’t read what was posted just above yours on how “four-peat” is a dictionary term and not slang. Lol… The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 06:11, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

I wrote that in response to your "Just because you don’t know what it means, doesn’t mean the rest of the world doesn’t" quote. Just to prove the rest of the world doesn't, for its not in the Oxford English Dictionary. Must be some US-specific term. Anyway, the !oppose still stands for it not being on ITN/R. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 06:15, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

For your reference, it isn’t just an US thing. Manchester City's Premier League four-peat on ESPN. I still disagree that just because it isn’t on ITN/R, doesn’t mean it can’t be listed. ITN/R is a guideline for things guaranteed to be listed. For a first-time in history event, one would think it should be listed, despite not being on ITN/R. But, I shall respect your opinion. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 06:20, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose not ITNR, not ITN-worthy, not globally relevant. _-_Alsor (talk) 06:12, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per above. Congratulations to the Sooners but this is not really a major global notable event.  — Amakuru (talk) 06:18, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Sergei Novikov (mathematician)

Article: Sergei Novikov (mathematician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Semenov, Kirill Vladimirovich (6 June 2024). "Скончался Сергей Петрович Новиков". Moscow State University (in Russian). Retrieved 6 June 2024.
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• Updated and nominated by MarkH21 (talk · give credit)

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The first Fields Medal recipient from the Soviet Union and a Wolf Prize recipient. — MarkH₂₁^talk 00:26, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article appears to be well sourced. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 10:01, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Support article looks alright to me. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 13:03, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 19:14, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Starship successful flight test

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Article: SpaceX Starship integrated flight test 4 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ SpaceX conducts a successful flight of Starship, with a landing for the Booster and Ship (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ SpaceX Starship successfully launches, culminating in a re-entry and ocean landing for both the Booster and Ship.
News source(s): New York Times, The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by PrecariousWorlds (talk · give credit)

Come ON! This is one of the most insane and incredible spaceflights in human history. Completely successful orbital launch followed by a successful atmospheric re-entry and hard landing for BOTH the Booster and Ship. The most powerful rocket in history. We have to post this PrecariousWorlds (talk) 14:00, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support Is this even a question? Couple very small failures, but still hugely successful, and they both landed for the first time. This was the most anticipated spaceflight event of the decade. qw3rty 14:03, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  I highly recommend everyone go and watch the replay of this, one of the most amazing things I've ever seen. Ship the size of the Statue of Liberty plummeting through the atmosphere, green and blue plasma flying all over the feed, the craft literally melting away live but still manoeuvring for landing. Just insane. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 14:06, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  'most anticipated spaceflight event of the decade' no it isn't, not even close. That's Artemis 3, which will land humans on the Moon. Modest Genius ^talk 17:15, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  This is a massive step towards that mission too PrecariousWorlds (talk) 17:59, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Not every SpaceX launch deserves a blurb. Even Boeing Starliner's very first crewed flight is being heavily debated below, so a test flight into orbit for a prototype Starship isn't really blurb-worthy. (Edit 14:58, 6 June 2024 (UTC): Not even into orbit as per below) Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 14:13, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  Looks like Starliner is coming to a consensus [osunpokeh/talk/contributions] 22:07, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support. This was the first actually successful flight of Starship. Very important milestone in spaceflight. Note that this was not an orbital flight though. Agile Jello (talk) 14:21, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per Chaotic Enby. Not even into orbit. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 15:48, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  Being on an orbital trajectory is a rather arbitrary requirement, especially as by all metrics Starship made it to space, just not at an orbital velocity (which wasn't the goal of the flight). PrecariousWorlds (talk) 16:27, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  The main test objectives of this flight were to simulate a booster landing in the Gulf of Mexico, and for the Starship to survive reentry and soft-land in the Indian Ocean. Both of which were accomplished.

  This is not just a major milestone in SpaceX development, but a significant milestone in human spaceflight history as the largest ever rocket's first successful flight. HamiltonthesixXmusic (talk) 00:33, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support Other nominations regarding Starship were opposed due to a failure to complete the entire test or meet some arbitrary requirement. Of course, now opposes are citing some other random arbitrary requirement to meet ITN. By all measures, this was a historic moment which may very well mark the beginning of human effort to establish an extra-terrestrial settlement. Kcmastrpc (talk) 16:48, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  Every test flight is a step towards human effort to establish an extra-terrestrial settlement, this one is only one more small incremental improvement, and I don't see why it is any more historic than any other. It's not about a random arbitrary requirement, it's about the fact that we don't blurb test flights achieving slightly more than the previous test flight. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 17:17, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  First fully successful test flight of the first fully reusable and most powerful rocket in history, as well as the largest vehicle to ever make a controlled landing, as well as being all over the news. We've posted a lot less. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 17:52, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  It's easy to describe every test flight as a "first" in something as they each do incrementally better than the previous one, but until there's an actual payload, or maybe even manned mission, not every Starship first should be ITN-relevant. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 17:56, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  So the first commercial satellite launch of Starship would be notable for ITN in your view? PrecariousWorlds (talk) 17:58, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  Possibly. I don't believe in posting every Starship "first", but if there's one to pick, it's either that or the first manned flight. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 18:01, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  Fair enough, though I personally believe this is notable enough to be posted PrecariousWorlds (talk) 18:03, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  This is not just a major milestone in SpaceX development, but a significant milestone in human spaceflight history as the largest ever rocket's first successful flight. HamiltonthesixXmusic (talk) 00:34, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

  Plus the first successful flight and landing of a fully reusable rocket, which is a game-changer. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 12:37, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose. Another incremental test flight, still not to orbit and still without a payload. 'Successful hard landing' is a euphemism for 'intentionally destroyed on impact'. I'm getting pretty fed up of every test being nominated. If Starship actually achieves something useful then I'll reconsider; gradually getting closer to a usable state isn't blurb-worthy. Modest Genius ^talk 17:13, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  Where did "hard landing" come from? The article claims soft landings for both the ship and the booster, and the CBS News source it links to appears to confirm that (although for the ship it simply quotes Musk's claim on that). 167.24.104.189 (talk) 17:42, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  'Hard landing' is in the nomination above. The article calls it a 'virtual landing' i.e. not a real landing. Modest Genius ^talk 17:47, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  From the article: "B11 successfully splashed down in the Gulf of Mexico, in what SpaceX has confirmed was a soft landing" and "S29 splashed down softly in the Indian Ocean." If that's wrong, it should probably be corrected, but the sources given seem to confirm it. 167.24.104.189 (talk) 17:52, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  Both the Booster and Ship appeared to land intact based on the telemetry (though the ship had taken damage on the flaps), I don't think we've gotten confirmation yet as to their status now. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 17:54, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  Mention of "hard landing" in nomination appears to be in error? Both vehicles performed soft touchdowns successfully [osunpokeh/talk/contributions] 22:05, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  See WP:ITNCDONT point 4 [osunpokeh/talk/contributions] 22:07, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  I did read the article - at the time of my comment it said nothing about the landings, only plans for the landings. We can argue semantics if you like, but being destroyed when they enter the ocean does not constitute a soft landing to me, even if they slowed down first. There's no evidence either craft was in the intended location either - the upper stage almost certainly wasn't, given its fins were completely shredded during re-entry. Anyway, none of this makes this more than a test flight, so it isn't suitable for ITN. Modest Genius ^talk 10:27, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

  This is an uninformed analysis. Starship was orbiting the earth at 26.000 km/h and slowed down to 50km/h performing a vertical soft landing. The same happened for the booster. The entire stack is the largest and most powerful rocket ever built. This is a monumental achievement and an historic first in human spaceflight technology. Nothing similar has ever been attempted in history. We just had in the news the Boeing Starliner launch which is a routine ISS crew mission (performed by an extremely delayed but totally ordinary launch platform) and not this? {{u|Gtoffoletto}}  ^talk 13:39, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

  Starship was orbiting the earth It was not, this was a suborbital flight
  Nothing similar has ever been attempted in history I remember SpaceX attempting this three times already, and claiming each time that it was the first "true" success
  We just had in the news the Boeing Starliner launch which is a routine ISS crew mission And, more importantly, is Boeing Starliner's first manned flight, rather than its fourth test flight Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 13:45, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

  The news here is that both the booster and the launch vehicle of the most powerful rocket ever achieved orbital re-entry and performed the first vertical soft water landings in history. Calling that flight "sub orbital" is farcical. {{u|Gtoffoletto}}  ^talk 13:53, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

  So jarring that the Starliner launch is the first item and this is not even mentioned... unfortunately the topic at this point is absurdly polarised and the results are simply comical. {{u|Gtoffoletto}}  ^talk 13:57, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

  But it was not an orbital flight. They weren't on an orbital trajectory at any point. That's literally the definition of suborbital. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 17:51, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose per Modest Genius. I also get the feeling that this is an incremental improvement, which is exactly what Starship's development approach really is. This is the fourth integrated flight test in less than a year, and there's going to be a fifth one by the end of this month. I really don't see why this one warrants inclusion. When it achieves something beyond the current limits of spaceflight development, then that would be the right news to post.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 17:35, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  If IFT-5 is another flight like this, even if the full system is recovered, I would be against posting, but this is the first fully successful flight, and previous tests were shut down due to not all objectives of the mission being met.

  The booster catch, if performed successfully on IFT-5, would definitely fit ITN imo PrecariousWorlds (talk) 17:56, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support per PrecariousWorlds and Kcmastrpc. Alexcalamaro (talk) 17:43, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose another week, another SpaceX launch. Starship is launching test flights so often now that it is hard to keep track (expected to have 4 more this year). So what that this one did not explode. When Starship has its first crewed launch, then we can post. Natg 19 (talk) 18:04, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Surely it's not necessary to have every space flight included here. Got to be something really out of the ordinary. Nigej (talk) 18:11, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  This is not just an ordinary space flight; it is the first fully successful flight test of the largest spacecraft currently operational. Surely the complete success of IFT-4 deserves a brief mention in current events, as opposed to the incremental successes of the last two Starship flights. HamiltonthesixXmusic (talk) 21:37, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose per Modest Genius. I'll consider supporting if/when they do a crewed launch, but this is just another incremental test. The Kip ^(contribs) 19:00, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose While we'd posted IFT-1, it quickly came in retrospect to have been viewed as a mistake, and neither IFT-2 or IFT-3 were posted. This is merely an incremental test flight that doesn't mark any big turning point. The only difference being claimed is that the vehicles mostly remained intact/capable up to the point they were expected to blow up; it still had a number of "partial failures," so it doesn't even cross the bar as a 100% success, even before acknowledging that an internal test isn't exactly particularly newsworthy. ITN is not a ticker for SpaceX activities; it's a venue for news, not press releases. Nottheking (talk) 19:07, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  What? All test objectives were accomplished? [osunpokeh/talk/contributions] 21:18, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  No, no they were not all accomplished. You can read the list we have on them here. Those yellow items indicate objects only partly completed. "All objectives completed" would mean that list would consist only of green items, with zero yellow, red, or grayed-out.

  The actual qualified statement is that, for the first time, Starship wasn't precluded from even attempting its final objectives. It's notable that it still had engine failures, and most critically, while it was mostly in one-piece on reentry, it did still suffer a heat-shield breach, that resulted in one of its maneuvering flaps burning partly through. (a decent amount of material was observed to have broken free of S28 during reentry & descent) Given that the focal objective repeatedly talked about was to avoid any burning up during reentry, this constitutes only a partial success. Nottheking (talk) 22:43, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  The main test objectives of this flight were to simulate a booster landing in the Gulf of Mexico, and for the Starship to survive reentry and soft-land in the Indian Ocean. Both of which were accomplished.

  Not sure what you mean by partial success, even major news networks are hailing the flight as the first successful Starship flight. HamiltonthesixXmusic (talk) 00:36, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

  Would also like to point out that those are huge first accomplishments in the history of spaceflight... those are monumental steps forward in the history of spaceflight. {{u|Gtoffoletto}}  ^talk 13:32, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Support I believe that this fully successful flight test of the largest spacecraft constructed deserves a brief mention. This story has been covered by multiple major American and international news networks and hailed as a completely successful test flight, including CNN, BBC, CBS, NSBC, etc.

Besides, the opposers seem to be riding on a shaky precedent set by the last three Starship launches that failed. This one is a complete success, very different from the previous IFT-2 and IFT-3. HamiltonthesixXmusic (talk) 21:42, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Oppose While I do agree that IFT-4 was amazing, the exact notability of the mission isn't really that much (especially compared to IFT-1). Frankly, I don't think we should be nominating Starship launches until a major milestone is achieved (such as first full reuse, first ship-to-ship prop transfer, or even first HLS demo mission). Stoplookin9 Hey there! Send me a message! 21:51, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Support Successful flight test and big milestone in spaceflight towards fully-reusable rockets. 2607:FEA8:E31F:D2C6:932B:262A:AD:4D20 (talk) 21:54, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Support, incremental improvement over the previous flight but it looks like NASA and the media consider this to be a Big F***ing Deal owing to the controlled landing of both vehicles, especially the controlled reentry and landing of the upper stage being the largest spacecraft ever re-entered (semi?)-successfully [osunpokeh/talk/contributions] 22:03, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

It would be pretty curious having 3 notable spaceflight-related blurbs on the front page although this shouldn't be a factor in consensus finding [osunpokeh/talk/contributions] 22:05, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

I've not seen much from NASA. I've seen a lot of SpaceX asserting it's a "full success," even though it's still heavily qualified. Expect it to drop out of the news cycle once it's no longer the day of, just like with IFT-2 and IFT-3. Nottheking (talk) 22:36, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

"Expect it to drop out of the news cycle once it's no longer the day of, just like with IFT-2 and IFT-3" isn't this the same as 50% of the items we post? PrecariousWorlds (talk) 07:41, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose per Modest Genius.  — Amakuru (talk) 06:23, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Oppose per Modest Genius and Stoplooking9 Sharrdx (talk) 12:54, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Oppose per above. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 13:03, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Strong support having the Boeing Starliner launch in the news section and not this launch which is the first successful complete launch of the most powerful (and advanced) rocket ever built is crazy. {{u|Gtoffoletto}}  ^talk 13:30, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Because Boeing Starliner is the actual first manned mission, while this is just another, slightly more successful test launch. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 13:39, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Comparing the two is farcical. Starliner is a totally routine and ordinary mission. The only notable aspect of that mission is that the first launch was so delayed. Starship is the world's most powerful rocket. Nothing similar to Starship was ever attempted in the history of human spaceflight and this test resulted in many "firsts" and many records and a huge step forward in human spaceflight technology. In the words of NASA Administrator Bill Nelson: “Congratulations SpaceX on Starship’s successful test flight this morning! We are another step closer to returning humanity to the Moon through Artemis—then looking onward to Mars.” {{u|Gtoffoletto}}  ^talk 13:48, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Nothing similar to Starship was ever attempted in the history of human spaceflight - this is not evident. You're bludgeoning this thread with peacock terms and SpaceX boosterism, accompanied by crystal-ball claims about the Moon and Mars - but the evidence just doesn't support it. It's a decent test, don't get me wrong - but it just doesn't deserve the exaggerated hype you're heaping on it. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:54, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

this is not evident I understand that. Hence this absurd discussion exists. Unfortunately, to anyone with basic knowledge of spaceflight technology this is abundantly clear. See for example: SpaceX Starship launches on nail-biting 4th test flight of world's most powerful rocket https://www.space.com/spacex-starship-flight-4-test-launch-success

What you call "boosterism" and "peacock terms" are actually reality. This is:

• the biggest rocket ever launched
• the most powerful rocket ever launched
• the first successful re-entry of a booster of this class
• the first successful vertical soft landing of a booster of this class
• the first successful orbital re-entry of a space vehicle of this class
• the first successful vertical soft landing of a booster of this class

And many other firsts (more technical). This is a monumental achievement in the history of spaceflight. But sure, let's talk about Boeing Starliner. {{u|Gtoffoletto}}  ^talk 14:04, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

I can't understand why in unbiased and good faith you are actively against posting this blurb about Starship. IFT-1 and IFT-4 are subjectively notable to the same degree. HamiltonthesixXmusic (talk) 14:25, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Oppose per Modest Genius. Not every single test needs to be posted. Seems like a recurring theme that "ooh-la-la! cool spaceship launched!" is taken into consideration here. Kline • talk • contribs 17:28, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

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(Closed) Israel–Maldives relations

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Article: Israel–Maldives relations (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Maldives bans Israeli passport holders from entering the country, following the war in Gaza. (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera CNN Times of Israel The President's Office Sky News
Credits:

• Nominated by MAL MALDIVE (talk · give credit)

MAL MALDIVE (talk) 13:15, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Minor development in the war, and the Maldives already didn't have diplomatic relations with Israel. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 13:43, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose footnote to the ongoing conflict. Masem (t) 13:47, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per above. The Kip ^(contribs) 16:07, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. Minor diplomatic move that won't make any difference to the war. Modest Genius ^talk 17:21, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Oppose good attempt but oppose per Modest Genius Ion.want.uu (talk) 05:57, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Rosa (sea otter)

Article: Rosa (sea otter) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Monterey Bay Aquarium
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Jbvann05 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Sea otter at the Monterey Bay Aquarium. Jbvann05 01:52, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support. Well sourced, decent depth of coverage (for an otter you know). Looks good to me. DarkSide830 (talk) 04:50, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  Actually just missed the lack of a source for her death date in the infobox. That's been rectified. It should probably be mentioned in the article proper as well. DarkSide830 (talk) 04:57, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support - Sufficiently sourced and generally of decent article quality. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk | contribs) 10:24, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
• Not ready Still many primary YouTube sources, and several tags in the last two sections of the article. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 15:01, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  All the cn tags have been removed now. Jbvann05 20:56, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Not ready but I support it when it is. The "care" section has some fluff that needs removed too. EvergreenFir (talk) 15:47, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support Looks well written and well sourced (though I would prefer fewer primary sources and social media ones). The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 06:18, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support Article looks good. Marking as ready. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 10:02, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Support RIP, article is in a good shape. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 13:04, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 11:15, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

June 5

Portal:Current events/2024 June 5

June 5, 2024 (2024-06-05) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Sudanese civil war Wad Al-Noora massacre The Rapid Support Forces storm the village of Wad Al-Noora in Gezira State, Sudan, and massacre nearly 100 villagers. (Sudan Tribune) 2021–2024 Democratic Republic of the Congo attacks At least 16 people are killed in Beni, Democratic Republic of the Congo. The local government believes the Allied Democratic Forces are responsible. (Reuters) 2024 Beirut US embassy shooting A Syrian man fires several shots at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, Lebanon, and is shot by security forces. (Reuters) Israel–Hezbollah conflict Hezbollah strikes an Iron Dome battery in Ramot Naftali, Israel. (Reuters) Korean conflict The United States and South Korea participate in the first precision guided bombing drill in 7 years over the Korean Peninsula, as tensions rise after North Korea sends trash-filled balloons into South Korea. (CNN) (AP) Disasters and accidents Pardubice train collision Four Slovaks and Ukrainians are killed and more than 20 others are injured when a passenger train collides with a freight train in Pardubice, Czech Republic. (CNN) (Reuters) Health and environment A panel of the United States Food and Drug Administration rejects MDMA-assisted psychotherapy as a treatment for PTSD. (NPR) International relations Burkina Faso–Russia relations Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov announces that Russia will send additional military supplies and instructors to Burkina Faso to help the country increase its defense capabilities. (Reuters) Law and crime Mexico–United States border crisis US President Joe Biden institutes a broad asylum ban on migrants illegally crossing the Mexico–United States border, with actions to deport or turn people back to Mexico, with exceptions for unaccompanied children, people with serious medical or safety threats, and victims of trafficking. (Reuters) A court in Florence, Italy, convicts American journalist Amanda Knox and sentences her to a three-year imprisonment over her accusations related to the murder of Meredith Kercher in Perugia in 2007. The sentence will count as time already served. (NBC News) (NPR) Politics and elections Israel–Hamas war protests Israel–Hamas war protests in Israel Thousands of Israeli ultranationalists march through East Jerusalem on Jerusalem Day, with some chanting anti-Arab slogans. (AP) Science and technology Boeing's Starliner capsule launches its first astronaut-crewed flight into space to the International Space Station after several delays at the Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida, United States. (ABC News) Russian cosmonaut Oleg Kononenko becomes the first human to spend 1,000 days in outer space. (AP)

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(Posted) Starliner, for real this time

Article: Boeing Crewed Flight Test (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Boeing Starliner spacecraft conducts its maiden crewed flight, launching two astronauts to the International Space Station. (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by Iamstillqw3rty (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Just about to enter orbit (only took 14 years). Article needs updating. qw3rty 15:11, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose The most interesting aspect of the CNN report was that this mission is going to fix the ISS's urine recycler which is broken and so they are having to cross their legs up there. But our article says nothing about this and it's not clear that it counts as the sort of "going boldly" that we aspire to. Compared to the Chinese mission, this seems too lower deck to make the grade. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:51, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. Good for Boeing I guess. This just reads as commercial news to me. DarkSide830 (talk) 18:02, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability Isn't this ITN/R? I believe we posted SpaceX launches in the past. This is a major milestone for the commercial crewed space program, as there is now a competitor to SpaceX. Article itself looks like may need more details. Natg 19 (talk) 18:32, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

  Looks like ITN/R had launch of crewed orbital spaceflights before, but it was removed. Natg 19 (talk) 18:32, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support. Maiden crewed flight of a new spacecraft. Only the sixth in US history. Agile Jello (talk) 18:38, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

  Per the list of crewed spacecraft, it's 9th in the US and 13th overall. Unlucky for some... Andrew🐉(talk) 09:08, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose One giant leap for Boeing's involvement in the urine recycling game, only the sixth small step in corporate American space support history. InedibleHulk (talk) 18:51, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
• Wait - Until the mission concludes, but Hallelujah! It's a latter day miracle! PrecariousWorlds (talk) 18:54, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
• Weak support. We rightly removed routine ISS crew rotations and new rocket types from ITNR, so this needs to be judged on its own merits. We posted a blurb about the first SpaceX crewed launch to the space station (Crew Dragon Demo-2), so it seems fair to also post Boeing reaching the same milestone. But that should be the only time we feature this spacecraft going to the ISS. The article is underwhelming but in good enough shape to post. I can see a case for waiting until it docks with the ISS though. Modest Genius ^talk 19:01, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

  The Dragon Demo was posted in May 2020 because it was a different time with different rules on presumed importance and resistance was futile. Same reason we kept a massive box of constant COVID nearby (more or less). Nowadays, we're free! InedibleHulk (talk) 20:30, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

  Update: they're having difficulty docking CNN. Modest Genius ^talk 17:24, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  Successfully docked, as of 17:41 UTC. Natg 19 (talk) 17:41, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  OK. Then we should post as soon as reliable sources have reported that fact and the article has been updated. Modest Genius ^talk 17:49, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support - The article is in decent shape and the notability and newsworthiness is high. Jusdafax (talk) 23:30, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support notable as first for spacecraft, future crewed launches of spacecraft however shouldn't be posted. Happily888 (talk) 04:04, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
• Weak support as Boeing's first crewed launch, but future launches shouldn't be posted even if they do incrementally better. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 17:53, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support notable due to being maiden flight of a spacecraft carrying crew, has happened on the order of 20 or so times in human history [osunpokeh/talk/contributions] 18:13, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  Comment: NASA reports that the spacecraft has docked to the ISS so we may want to consider whether to include that in the blurb or not [osunpokeh/talk/contributions] 18:15, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

• Weak support per Chaotic Enby. The Kip ^(contribs) 18:59, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support This marks the first crewed orbital spaceflight operated by a new entity, which brings the world's total to 5. (after the USSR/Russia, USA, China, and SpaceX) To be honest this is the level of something that should have its own ITN/R criteria, but space ITN/R has been... Slashed down very heavily over the years. This has been covered extensively in the news across its entire campaign to reach launch across the prior month, and is most certainly a major event that changes the landscape of human spaceflight. This is a major historical milestone for the subject.

Worth noting that this is ITN-worthy specifically for being the first such flight by Boeing; routine crewed flights (they're on contract to provide NASA with six more) aren't inherently newsworthy, the same as applies with routine Crew Dragon or Soyuz launches; we get a few of each for each year. However, the first by an entity is newsworthy, and (while this isn't the proper venue) is something that is a glaring absence from the ITN/R criteria. After all, as it stands India's upcoming first crewed Gaganyaan flight (on track for next year) would, in fact, not be ITN/R, as bewildering as that sounds. So that's a clear indicator that right now, there's a huge gap for spaceflights in ITN that aren't ITN/R. Nottheking (talk) 19:25, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support now that they have successfully docked. --Carnildo (talk) 19:49, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support for notability and reliable sourcing -- Rauisuchian (talk) 23:46, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 03:46, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
• Pull per Andrew Davidson (talk · contribs).wound theology◈ 19:03, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
• Comment: having this up while not mentioning Starship's launch on the same day looks ridiculous. The contrast in coverage is jarring especially since many have obviously compared the two launches (since the two companies are competitors) [1]. At this point we should probably remove this as well. It looks like a paid ad for Boeing. Either mention the two (even together) or remove both. {{u|Gtoffoletto}}  ^talk 19:14, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

  That's a false equivalency. It's entirely logically consistent to think Boeing's launch is ITNworthy, while thinking SpaceX's latest isn't. Whether one (or both) actually are ITNworthy are two separate questions, but it does not look ridiculous to draw the line between them. As we've apparently done. Floquenbeam (talk) 19:19, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

  Aye. As I repeated summarily while closing the other Starbird, it was only a test. This Starcraft is "for real". A test can still be posted if consensus develops, of course. Likewise, "the real thing" can just as easily fail. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:41, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

  The difference in significance of the two launches is so vast that highlighting one versus the other is comical. One is a "for real" routine ISS crew flight (albeit with a new vehicle). The other is the first successful test of the most powerful rocket in history and the achievement of many firsts in rocketry history (full reusability, vertical landing etc.). I understand if we don't want to report all tests. But then we shouldn't highlight the Starliner ISS crew flight as it is pretty much irrelevant. {{u|Gtoffoletto}}  ^talk 12:04, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

RD: John Blackman

Article: John Blackman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by HiLo48 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Australian TV and radio personality HiLo48 (talk) 00:29, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

• Wait for sources. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:08, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose - Noticeable lack of sources in entire sections and overabundance of CN tags. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk | contribs) 10:27, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Article needs ref work. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 10:03, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose a large number of cn atgs and multiple orange tags and needs more sources. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 13:23, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

RD: Asmatullah

Article: Asmatullah (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BOL News
Credits:

• Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Ainty Painty (talk) 04:52, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose So stubby that the subject's full name and age are not given. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:22, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

  Mononymic names are not that uncommon in Indic languages. Curbon7 (talk) 20:11, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Stub. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 07:18, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose as the page is a stub. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 10:59, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
• Ditto InedibleHulk (talk) 19:20, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose per above. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 13:22, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

June 4

Portal:Current events/2024 June 4

June 4, 2024 (2024-06-04) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War, Russia–NATO relations Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov warns that French military instructors will be "legitimate targets" if they are deployed to Ukraine. (France 24) Disasters and accidents The Kanlaon volcano in central Philippines erupts, causing evacuations and a suspension of activities in the city of Canlaon. (Reuters) Law and crime 2024 Slatina protests A mass protest takes place in Slatina, Olt County, Romania, against the inactions of bystanders in the drowning of Flavius Magraon, as well as the police department's corruption in the case. (Adevărul) (B1 TV) Politics and elections 2024 Indian general election The alliance of parties led by Narendra Modi reaches the 272 seats threshold needed to form a government, but Modi's BJP party loses its outright parliamentary majority. (BBC News) 2024 Nigerian general strike The Nigeria Labour Congress (NLC) and Trade Union Congress (TUC) suspend the nationwide general strike, pending talks with the federal government of Nigeria about the raising of the country's minimum wage. (BBC) (Reuters) International recognition of the State of Palestine Slovenia's parliament approves a motion to recognize a Palestinian state. (The Times of Israel) Mexico–United States border crisis US President Joe Biden enacts an executive order to temporarily suspend asylum claims processing at the Mexico–United States border when the seven-day average of claims exceeds 2,500 per day. Amnesty International criticizes the executive order, accusing Biden of "setting a dangerous international precedent". (NPR) (AP) North Korea–South Korea relations The State Council of South Korea suspends the 2018 Panmunjom Declaration due to border tensions over balloons sent across the border by North Korea. (AP) A local Mannheim politician is injured by a stabbing, five days after the May 31 attack in the German city. (BBC) Science and technology Chinese space program The China National Space Administration's Chang'e 6 spacecraft lifts off from the surface of the far side of the Moon carrying samples of lunar soil and rocks back to Earth. (Reuters) The National Health Service declares a "critical incident" after several hospitals in London, including King's College Hospital, say they have cancelled appointments and turned away patients after a cyberattack on their Synnovis IT systems. (AP) Sports 2024 Major League Baseball season Venezuelan infielder Tucupita Marcano is permanently banned from Major League Baseball and Minor League Baseball for betting on Pittsburgh Pirates games while being a member of the team. (CBS Sports)

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(Ready) 2024 Indian general election

Article: 2024 Indian general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In India, the Bharatiya Janata Party led by Narendra Modi loses its parliamentary majority in the Lok Sabha elections, but it still has a path to form a government with its allies in the National Democratic Alliance. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In the Indian general election, the Bharatiya Janata Party (leader Narendra Modi pictured) wins the most seats but loses its majority in the lower house of parliament
Alternative blurb II: ​ In the Indian general election, Prime Minister Narendra Modi (pictured) is reelected for a third term with support from coalition parties, after his ruling Bharatiya Janata Party fails to secure a majority on its own.
Alternative blurb III: ​ After the Indian general election, the Bharatiya Janata Party loses 63 Lok Sabha seats and its majority while the opposition Indian National Congress wins 47.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ In the Indian general election , the National Democratic Alliance led by Prime Minister Narendra Modi is reelected with a reduced majority.
News source(s): CNN, BBC, The Hindu
Credits:

• Nominated by Tube of Light (talk · give credit)
• Created by Number 57 (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

I couldn't figure out how to phrase the blurb in a brief way (I think the fact that the BJP lost its own majority but still has a path to form a government via alliance is significant), someone else will have to do it. Tube·of·Light 17:46, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

• Not ready. Although final results were scheduled for today, it seems counting still hasn't been concluded. We can't post this until the final results are in, and the article has been updated with them. The article also needs to have at least a full paragraph of referenced prose describing the outcome, which is currently missing. I've added an altblurb. Modest Genius ^talk 18:41, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

  Some summary results have now started to appear, but the detailed results table is still incomplete. Modest Genius ^talk 12:21, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

  The results table is still incomplete. Is this a problem with updating the article, or is counting still going on? Modest Genius ^talk 17:26, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  Counting ended two days ago, I have no idea what is going on with that article (and I also don't have the time to complete that on my own). Tube·of·Light 03:49, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Wait if the whole idea is about a possibly alliance wait Ion.want.uu (talk) 18:41, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support altblurb pending final results This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 21:20, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support altblurb #1 or #2, but agree that the election article is not ready for the feature. The article needs its result table to be filled in, which is not possible until the count is complete. ~Malvoliox (talk | contribs) 21:25, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support AltBlurb 2 Suggested Alt Blurb 2 for clarity, the first Altblurb loses the significance that is referenced ITN about Modi needing coalition support to get re-elected. Article needs work though Schwinnspeed (talk) 21:52, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
• Neutral on Alt3 I added it because this parliamentary majority business seems like a numbers game, first and foremost, but don't like the way the article looks. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:32, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

  It is very much so a numbers game, and you're right to point out the INC gains. But Alt3 feels like we're missing the forest for the trees. The significance here is Modi was reelected, but had to rely on coalition support, because the BJP lost its majority and 63 seats (this is along the lines of every major news headline) I fear the dynamics and implications of the Lok Sabha numbers game will be lost on the majority of people looking at the main page. Schwinnspeed (talk) 01:44, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

  I figured since the other three options already made Modi the star, shifting to party politics was the "alt" thing to do. And I did say it lost its majority, which more than implies it's now running a minority government. A lot of things will always be lost on a lot of people from a blurb alone, I think, just naturally. A decent one is barely longer than a headline, if that. But yeah, I don't care if Alt3's chosen or not. Just "putting it out there". InedibleHulk (talk) 05:07, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

• Wait until the Prime Minister is sworn in This may happen as soon as this week as per the news reports. ITN candidate

  The results of the election are WP:ITNR, not the swearing-in. Tube·of·Light 11:29, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

• Comment on alt4 I have written the alt to mention NDA and to make the blurb concise. This could also be used later on when newer ITNs are published. DogeChungus (talk) 14:34, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support alt2 as the most neutral, as it explains how Modi is still reelected but needs a coalition as the BJP doesn't have a majority by itself anymore. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 14:38, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support Alt1: confirming the prime ministership is a formality but it hasn't occurred yet, whereas the parliamentary majority has been confirmed. Also support posting now rather than at the swearing in. Vanamonde93 (talk) 16:45, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support ALT1 per above. The Kip ^(contribs) 21:51, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support Alt2 as Modi's alliance has formally elected him. Like others have said, we do not need to wait for the new term to actually begin (scheduled sometime Sunday night). rawmustard (talk) 10:39, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support Alt2 - by far the clearest and most balanced expression of what's happened in this unquestionably headline-worthy event. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:45, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support Alt2 most accurate headline and article is in a good shape. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 13:05, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

  Support Alt4 It's the most formal & Least Disrespectful. Maheep Singh24 (talk) 05:08, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

  There's no guideline saying we have to respect politicians, neutrality and respecting politicians' feelings are not the same. The fact that the BJP lost its majority and will need a coalition is important enough to be explicitly mentioned in my opinion. Tube·of·Light 17:07, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support altblurb2: Suitable to post this today because of the oath taking ceremony of the prime minister.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:40E2:200D:C4D0:BC96:A24F:CCED:2CBA (talk)
• Support Alt blurb 4: Should've been posted earlier, but today's the swearing-in so nvm. Alt 4 reads the most appealing for the simplicity wrt international audience's pov. — hako9 (talk) 01:39, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support Alt blurb 4 Should be posted today, as today is the swearing-in ceremony. Alt 4 is most suitable for above stated reasons. Leoneix _(talk) 16:15, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

RD: William Russell

Article: William Russell (English actor) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s):
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Comment Actor best known as Ian Chesterton in the first couple seasons of Doctor Who, and later came back 57 years after leaving for a cameo that later led to a World Record. But he also appeared in many other tv shows of the era. TheCorriynial (talk) 19:17, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support I watched him back in the day. But the name is quite common and so it won't work well at RD. Tsk. Andrew🐉(talk) 20:45, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

  Maybe it might be worth doing like what's been done with ongoing with maybe putting William Russell (Ian Chesterton) or English Actor instead of (Ian Chesterton). TheCorriynial (talk) 20:55, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

  I don't remember him at all, but the parenthetical in his title strongly suggests he's not the William Russell, so no blurb (regardless of whether he was 99). InedibleHulk (talk) 21:05, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

  Because the important thing is to keep the readers in the dark, right? Looking at RD currently, we have a serial killer, a hooker, Obama's mother-in-law, a mercenary colonel and some basketball players. But who's who? You can't tell any of that from just a list of names. It's useless. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:36, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

  This is business as usual, you've seen it. For those who want light and timeliness, the important thing is Deaths in 2024. Here, we have space restraints and a quality bar holding things back. "Wiiliam Russell" fits, but an extra "(English actor)", "(Ian Chesterton)" or "(Sir Lancelot)" does not. Barwise, even the William Russell can't shine through multiple unsourced paragraphs. InedibleHulk (talk) 17:48, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Oppose His filmography section is entirely unsourced. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 13:21, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

*Support. Article looks in decent enough shape, a very long acting career, most notably as a character from the very beginning of a certain long-running TV show. Challenger l (talk) 14:27, 5 June 2024 (UTC) Withdrawn. Challenger l (talk) 00:03, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: "There's more than one William Russell" doesn't seem a valid reason for not including him. There are plenty of occasions when I've looked at the box and gone "Who's dead?!" only to click on the link and find it's someone else with the same name that I've never heard of. As noted in the box above, the policy is that anyone prominent enough to have an article on Wikipedia is notable enough to be included. The only issue should be the quality of the article. Skteosk (talk) 19:23, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support - I really don't understand why we wouldn't. He's got a decent article, and that's that. We usually don't include disambiguation brackets in the RD text of people's names - we just pipelink to the correct article, and I don't think that needs to be any different here. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:58, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
• Multiple footnote-free paragraphs. Filmography is unsourced. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 10:39, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

RD: Janisa Johnson

Article: Janisa Johnson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): GMA News
Credits:

• Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)
• Created by Hariboneagle927 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Hariboneagle927 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American volleyball player. Died 25 May but announced publicly on 4 June. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:23, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

• Weak oppose Awards section is unsourced and lead is too short. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 10:05, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Oppose two orange tags. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 13:19, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Sri Lanka floods

Article: 2024 Sri Lanka floods (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 16 people have died and more than 12,000 houses have been destroyed by floods in Sri Lanka. (Post)
News source(s): France 24, BBC, AP, EFE, Independent, ABC
Credits:

• Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)

Ainty Painty (talk) 02:15, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality as the article's extremely short. Wait on notability - it certainly looks like it might meet the scale for a blurb, but it's a developing story. The Kip ^(contribs) 03:06, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose — Weather events with more deaths and injuries have not been posted. Single country notability. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 06:36, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Oppose article is not blurbworthy. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 13:19, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

RD: Prince Ahmad Shah Khan

Article: Ahmad Shah Khan, Crown Prince of Afghanistan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Persian
Credits:

• Nominated by Mr. Lechkar (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Titular head of the Barakzai dynasty and son of the last king of Afghanistan Mohammad Zahir Shah. Mr. Lechkar (talk) 20:13, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Article has orange tag. Needs ref work. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 10:06, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Oppose article is a stub and has orange tags. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 13:17, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

June 3

Portal:Current events/2024 June 3

June 3, 2024 (2024-06-03) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks 2024 Iran–Israel conflict, Israel–Hezbollah conflict, Syrian civil war Three Hezbollah members killed in Israeli airstrikes on Naqoura and Kauthariyet El Rez in southern Lebanon.[(L'Orient le Jour) 16 Iranian-supported militia members killed in an IDF airstrike on a copper plant near Aleppo, Syria.(Al Arabiya) Hezbollah fires drone attacks at IDF center station in the Galilee and in Metula.(Al Arabiya) Sudanese civil war The Rapid Support Forces announce the establishment of a civil administration in the state of South Darfur, which they fully control. (Al Taghyeer) A Syrian man is arrested after throwing a Molotov cocktail at the Israeli embassy in Bucharest, Romania and attempting to self-immolate. (Jerusalem Post) (AP) Business and economy GameStop short squeeze The value of GameStop shares increases by 21% after Keith Gill posts a $116 million investment on Reddit. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents 2024 Indian heat wave More than 211 people are killed and nearly 25,000 others suffer from heatstroke amid a severe heat wave in India. (The Independent) (Reuters) The Kīlauea volcano in Hawaii, United States, erupts for the first time in nine months. (The New York Times) June 2024 South African storm complex At least 11 people are killed by two tornadoes in the South African province of KwaZulu-Natal. (Daily Maverick) International relations Afghanistan–Kazakhstan relations, International relations with the Taliban Kazakhstan removes the Taliban from its list of terrorist organizations. (RFE/RL) Law and crime Arrest of Imran Khan The Islamabad High Court overturns former Prime Minister of Pakistan Imran Khan's charges of leaking national security secrets. (Reuters) The Chinese Ministry of State Security arrests and charges a couple for allegedly spying for Britain's MI6 agency. (Al Jazeera) Politics and elections 2023–2024 Georgian protests Chairperson of the Parliament of Georgia Shalva Papuashvili signs the foreign agent bill into law amid mass protests and warnings from Western countries against signing the bill. (RFE/RL) 2024 European farmers' protests Spanish and French farmers block roads on highways through the Pyrenees mountains in protest against trade with non-European Union member states. (Reuters) 2024 United Kingdom general election Nigel Farage appoints himself leader of Reform UK and announces that he will run as a candidate for the party in the upcoming UK general election in Clacton. (The New York Times) 2024 Nigerian general strike Major Nigerian unions Nigeria Labour Congress and Trade Union Congress begin an indefinite general strike, causing closures of schools, public offices, and airports, as well as a shutdown of the national power grid amid a cost-of-living crisis and record low minimum wages in Nigeria. (VOA) (Al Jazeera)

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RD: Jürgen Moltmann

Article: Jürgen Moltmann (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

One of the leading Christian theologians.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:02, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Support All sections seem to be well-sourced.Filmman3000 (talk) 04:47, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Comment: added myself to updaters --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:59, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

• About 6 {cn} remaining in the prose. Quite a few unsourced bullet-points in Bibliography section after the prose. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 22:24, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

RD: Brother Marquis

Article: Brother Marquis (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): USA Today
Credits:

• Nominated by Filmman3000 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American Rapper Filmman3000 (talk) 23:50, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Support All sections seem to be well-sourced. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:33, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

• Weak support Lead is a bit too long, but article looks good overall. Three cn tags shouldn't keep the article from getting posted. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 10:08, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
• Support. At first, I was really saddened, mistakenly thinking Biz Markie had died, but then I realized this is a different rapper, but then I discovered Biz Markie died three years ago. Hyperbolick (talk) 10:35, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Oppose accolades section needs sources. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 13:16, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

• Five {cn} tags remaining. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 10:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

@PFHLai, @TDKR Chicago 101 and @PrinceofPunjab I have sourced the accolade section as well as other citations missing. Hope you find it satisfactory. Thank you. Filmman3000 (talk) 19:18, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Brigitte Bierlein

Article: Brigitte Bierlein (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC News
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
• Updated by AtlanteanAstorian (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former Austrian chancellor Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:12, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

• Weak oppose There's five cn tags. Otherwise, article looks ready once they're resolved. Support One cn tag shouldn't keep the article from getting posted IMO. I think her chancellor section is expanded to the best it can given her short tenure. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 10:07, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

There is work to be done: the cn tags need to be fixed and the content relating to her, albeit short, tenure as Chancellor should be expanded. _-_Alsor (talk) 21:32, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Support article is indeed ready to be posted. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 13:11, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 03:24, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

RD: Colin Gibb

Article: Colin Gibb (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
• Updated by J97736 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Black Lace band singer.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 11:06, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Large sections of career section are unsourced. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 16:50, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Oppose two orange tags. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 13:10, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

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