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January 3

Portal:Current events/2024 January 3

January 3, 2024 (2024-01-03) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russo-Ukrainian War Russian invasion of Ukraine Military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War, Turkey–Ukraine relations Turkey denies access to the Black Sea for two Royal Navy minehunters saying their transit of the Bosporus and Dardanelles straits would be in violation of the Montreux Convention of 1936. (The Independent) Ukraine and Russia complete their first prisoner exchange in nearly five months, releasing over 200 people on each side, facilitated by mediation from the United Arab Emirates. (Reuters) Myanmar civil war Operation 1027 The Ta'ang National Liberation Army claimed to have taken control of the town of Mongngaw in Kyaukme Township in Shan State. (Irrawaddy) Colombian conflict The Clan del Golfo detonate explosives at an army encampment in Turbo, Antioquia Department, Colombia, killing a soldier and injuring 12 others. (ABC News) Kerman bombings Eighty nine people are killed and 284 others injured in a double bombing in Kerman, Iran, during a ceremony marking the fourth anniversary of the assassination of Qasem Soleimani. (AP) Law and crime 2023 Sierra Leone coup attempt A court in Freetown, Sierra Leone, charges former president Ernest Bai Koroma with four offences, including treason for his alleged role during the November coup attempt. (France 24) Capital punishment in India A court in India sentences two men to death over a train bombing in 2005 which killed 14 people. (Deccan Herald) A court in the U.S. state of New York releases unsealed documents containing the associates list of Jeffrey Epstein to the public. (The Independent) Three men are stabbed and injured on a train at Akihabara Station in Tokyo, Japan. (Reuters) Politics and elections Hilda Heine is sworn in as President of the Marshall Islands. (RNZ)

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Tetris broken

Article: Tetris (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The videogame Tetris (pictured) is broken by a human for the first time, when they reached level 157 (Post)
News source(s): BBC, IGN, NBC, NYT
Credits:

• Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

I can't see an update for this yet and I suppose some authentication may be required. But the mainstream media seem to be taking it seriously. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:57, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose, I don't think it's really ITN worthy, especially because it is only the NES version of tetris. Also, article doesn't appear to have this in it. Vetrenarisisum (talk) 19:18, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Comment - This specifically relates to Tetris (NES video game) and not to Tetris as a whole. This seems to be receiving widespread media attention, although saying it was "broken for the first time" is an unusual way to word the blurb. No opinion on whether or not this is ITN worthy. Probably makes for a better video game related ITN blurb than whatever industry backpatting awards usually show up. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 19:19, 3 January 2024 (UTC)HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 19:22, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

• As I understand it, there's no in-game endpoint and so the achievement is pushing the game to the point that the software can't cope any more. The feat seems fairly well understood but has only been achieved by AI previously. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:28, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

*Wait until article is updated, Leaning Support: This story will likely further develop, Article needs to be updated to accommodate this event. This is notable as Tetris is a very popular game worldwide, not to mention that it took 34 years until someone has beaten it. ~~mAyLiNgOeEd (Talk to me!)

• Oppose: Per other comments; This is only for the NES edition and there is not much merit to "beating the game" because of a technical limitation of the NES. Not notable given additional context. ~~mAyLiNgOeEd (Talk to me!) (My contributions to Wikipedia📜) 20:22, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose More trivia than anything else. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 19:23, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per both Enby and Vetrenarisisum. DarkSide830 (talk) 19:41, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Suggestions "Videogame" should be two words, "broken" should be "beaten", "they" should be "he", "reached" should be "reaches" and the picture should be an NES screenshot. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:45, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose absolutely not. Natg 19 (talk) 19:48, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per above. It was just one version of Tetris, and more to do with a coding glitch than anything else. I think the media are kind of getting the wrong end of the stick here. Not ITN-worthy.  — Amakuru (talk) 20:08, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose This seems to be moreso a technical limitation of the 8-bit NES. 20:10, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose while I'd want to see more video game stories on the main page, thus is just a technicality due to limitations of the NES hardware as others have pointed out. --Masem (t) 21:10, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Tetris is my favorite game, but this is way too trivial for ITN. (And as others have said, is only relevant to one version and due to a glitch.) Funcrunch (talk) 21:20, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose A teenager "beating" a 40 year old game by using a technical limitation is not news qw3rty 21:22, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Kerman cemetery bombings

Article: 2024 Kerman bombings (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ 103 people are killed in bombings in Kerman, Iran, during a ceremony commemorating the assassination of Qasem Soleimani. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Over 103 people are killed and dozens more injured in bombings in Kerman, Iran, during a ceremony commemorating the assassination of Qasem Soleimani.
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Chaotic Enby (talk · give credit)
• Created by Homerethegreat (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Major bombing, believed to be a terrorist attack. Current death count of 73 103, at least 150 injured. Improvements to the blurb are welcome. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 13:32, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support upon article expansion. One of the deadliest attacks in Iran in decades. 69.156.166.201 (talk) 13:57, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support Very notable due to large casualties, unusual for Iran and one of the most deadly attacks in Iran in recent times. Editor 5426387 (talk) 14:14, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support. Article could be expanded slightly more but apart from that, it's very notable due to the high death toll. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 14:26, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support, Very notable event, deadly bombing that happened in Iran. Could wait a bit longer before posting to monitor any recent developments. ~~mAyLiNgOeEd (Talk to me!) (My contributions to Wikipedia📜) 14:31, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support - Big attack on Iran. Seems ready for posting.BabbaQ (talk) 14:38, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Strong Support But it says at least 103 people killed, and the blurb says 73. Might have to wait for correct casualties or change blurb. Setarip (talk) 14:45, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, updated! ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 14:48, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support It is a notable event but wait until it is clear whether this is a terrorist attack or not , even though deputy governor said so , wait for ministry of interior to say so. Harvici 14:45, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support but suggest waiting a few more hours for details to emerge and settle down before posting. Article is sufficiently sourced. — Masem (t) 15:01, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Support Due to impact, update hook when motives are known. Bremps... 15:03, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support per above ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 15:09, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Wait/Support Article is still coalescing information. I assume it'll be ready in a few hours. Kcmastrpc (talk) 15:12, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
•  Posted. El_C 15:17, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
  • You forgot a period at the end. QueensanditsCrazy (talk) 15:36, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

  Not sure how notable or true this is but i am seeing news articles suggesting this was done by Israel, so the question will arise over whether this deserves its own blurb or should just be treated as part of the Israel Hamas war ongoing. Not sure if I have a position on the matter, and I certainly don't care to contribute to a discussion on it, other than to bring it to y'all's attention. QueensanditsCrazy (talk) 15:38, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

  That has no bearing on it being worthy of a blurb. El_C 15:43, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

  Death count increased to 211+ (source) ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 19:36, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

January 2

Portal:Current events/2024 January 2

January 2, 2024 (2024-01-02) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present) Assassination of Saleh al-Arouri An Israeli airstrike in the Dahieh neighborhood of Beirut, Lebanon, kills seven people, including Saleh al-Arouri, the deputy chairman of Hamas' political bureau, and two other senior Hamas military officials. Israel has not claimed responsibility for the attack. (Reuters) Russian invasion of Ukraine Russian strikes against infrastructure 2 January 2024 Russian strikes on Ukraine Four civilians are killed and nearly 100 others are injured by a Russian missile attack in Kharkiv and at least 27 civilians are injured by a Russian missile attack in Kyiv. (AP) Spillover of the Afghan conflict Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Unidentified gunmen kill six people in Mir Ali, North Waziristan District, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan. (ABC News) War in Sudan (2023–present) The RSF attacked the town of Bara, North Kordofan and plundered the University of Gezira in Wad Madani. The SAF launched airstrikes on RSF positions in Wad Madani, Sennar, and the Khartoum area. (Dabanga Sudan) Arts and culture 2023 United States Congress hearing on antisemitism Claudine Gay resigns as president of Harvard University following controversial remarks she made during a congressional hearing on antisemitism and accusations of plagiarism. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents 2024 Haneda Airport runway collision A Japan Airlines Airbus A350-900 aircraft collides with a Japan Coast Guard Dash 8 aircraft and bursts into flames at Haneda Airport in Tokyo, Japan. All 379 occupants aboard the Japan Airlines flight are evacuated, while five of the six occupants aboard the Coast Guard aircraft are killed. (BBC News) (Reuters) A Ugandan People's Defence Force helicopter crashes in the village of Nyamisigiri, Kabarole District, Uganda, killing two people on board the helicopter and one person on the ground. (KFM) (Aviation Safety Network) Law and crime Attempted assassination of Lee Jae-myung South Korean opposition politician Lee Jae-myung is stabbed in the neck in Gadeokdo, Busan. (The New York Times) A man breaks into the Colorado Supreme Court building in Denver, Colorado, United States. He holds a security guard at gunpoint and later voluntarily surrenders to police. (Colorado Public Radio)

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(Closed) Claudine Gay

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Claudine Gay (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Claudine Gay, the first black female President of Harvard University resigns amid allegations of anti-semitism and plagiarism. (Post)
News source(s): https://apnews.com/article/harvard-president-plagiarism-claudine-gay-3b048da1f2ee17b5edec3680b5828e8f
Credits:

• Nominated by 24.125.98.89 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Alden Loveshade (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Prestigious university president who was appointed by the university with much fanfare resigns after being accused of anti-semitism and plagiarism. Making international headline news, shortest tenure in the role in the nearly 400 year history of the school 24.125.98.89 (talk) 12:09, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

I agree with you suggestion in spirit, but please moderate your language, particularly insofar as it cannot be verified with sources compliant with WP:BLP FortunateSons (talk) 12:19, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

fixed --24.125.98.89 (talk) 12:20, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Looks a lot better, thank you FortunateSons (talk) 12:24, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

who? this is not worthy of itn, shitty ass blurb gtfo 2601:58A:8E7E:C300:1411:DF33:5D74:9A03 (talk) 17:48, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose, tempest in a teapot, university presidents are nothin' but cheerleaders and fundraisers, and I don't see how somebody getting fired is ITN-level material. Abductive (reasoning) 12:31, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Support significant media attention, political and academic backlash, and it is reported by many news sites, including many national and international reliable sources. FortunateSons (talk) 12:39, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose, just a university, not a geopolitical authority or anything. Small impact. QueensanditsCrazy (talk) 13:01, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

I disagree, it is one of the best ranked universities in the world. FortunateSons (talk) 13:08, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Technically, tied to the situation in the Gaza strip, but also typically we would not post the resignation or retirement or other departure of the top person in a company or institution, unless there were serious ramifications that would come with that. --Masem (t) 13:13, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose trivial. _-_Alsor (talk) 13:40, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose - National story with little or zero impact outside its own jurisdiction.BabbaQ (talk) 14:41, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I was reading the instructions above Wikipedia:ITNCDONT and it says "Oppose an item just because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one." so I guess your comment is invalid. --24.125.98.89 (talk) 15:14, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

The comment mentioned the jurisdiction, not the entire US. You can't just decide that replies opposing your proposal are invalid, that's bad form. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 15:37, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support We don't know what the ramifications are going to be, and any speculation here within is pure WP:CRYSTAL. This story is making headlines worldwide and is currently the subject of many emerging editorials and opinion pieces. Kcmastrpc (talk) 14:45, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
  • ITN does not consider whether the story us headline news or not or widely it is being reported. And if there are no clear immediate ramifications reported as part of the story, then it is CRYSTAL to suggest there will be any. — Masem (t) 17:00, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Someone gets fired at a prestigious university, not ITN-worthy. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 15:35, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose this unworthy event. Not important at all for the world. Setarip (talk) 16:32, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

RD: Zvi Zamir

Article: Zvi Zamir (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of Israel
Credits:

• Nominated by 240D:1A:4B5:2800:51E3:903B:140B:3B5E (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former director of Mossad. 240D:1A:4B5:2800:51E3:903B:140B:3B5E (talk) 10:15, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Article needs a lot of work done. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 11:05, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

(Ready) RD: Sartaj Aziz

Article: Sartaj Aziz (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Business Recorder
Credits:

• Nominated by Chaotic Enby (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former finance minister of Pakistan, orange tag to fix but that should be doable. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 17:57, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article looks good and I've done some work in fixing the sourcing issues. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:44, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support Article is generally good-quality. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 07:11, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Ken Bowman

Article: Ken Bowman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

– Muboshgu (talk) 17:30, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article looks good. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:45, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose We dont even know whether or not he died in 2024 Setarip (talk) 19:00, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Setarip, his death was reported today. Irrelevant of what day it was, this is eligible. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:01, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Apparently he died on Dec 27. But Muboshgu is right. His death was announced today, thus this is RD eligible. Natg 19 (talk) 01:37, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article is in good quality. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 07:44, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

(Posted as RD) RD/blurb?: Saleh al-Arouri

Article: Saleh al-Arouri (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  In Beirut, Lebanon, senior Hamas leader Saleh al-Arouri is assassinated in an Israeli airtstrike (Post)
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Was a leader in Hamas. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:15, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article looks good. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 17:50, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Support Article quality is pretty good. Setarip (talk) 18:58, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• @Setarip: Thoughts on it being a blurb? --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 17:22, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

  Support Blurb An important figure from Hamas, his assassination article is good quality as well. Setarip (talk) 17:44, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 23:06, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Can we blurb it? We blurbed assassination of ISIS leader. And it is the first major figure from Hamas who was taken out by Israel. Kirill C1 (talk) 23:26, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

I was mulling with the idea of a blurb as well. We did blurb Qasem Soleimani's death. Plus the Assassination of Saleh al-Arouri article doesn't look that bad as well. I'd support blurb TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 07:42, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Blurb. Qasem Soleimani was the head of the IRGC while Saleh is merely the second-in-command of Hamas's political branch, which relatively speaking isn't that significant. It was a similar deal with ISIS since Kirili CT brought it up; we posted when Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was killed, but not when his many deputies were drone striked. When the actual head gets assassinated, then it should be posted Mount Patagonia (talk • contributions) 09:56, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

• Weak support on blurbing Assassination of Saleh al-Arouri. It's an appropriate level of detail for an ITN feature, though not the most impressive subject as per Mount Patagonia above. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 10:01, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb. Important figure within Hamas - afterall he was the Deputy Chairman of the Political Bureau, and the founding commander of one Hamas' military wing. He is more than just the "second in command" of Hamas. TwistedAxe [contact] 15:10, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb not a key leader of Hamas, no practical effect on the Gaza strip conflict. --Masem (t)
• Oppose blurb on account of not knowing what actual effect al-Arouri's death with have on the conflict. DarkSide830 (talk) 17:45, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb per Masem/Mount Patagonia. The Kip 19:12, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Qaiser Rashid Khan

Article: Qaiser Rashid Khan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Jang
Credits:

• Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Ainty Painty (talk) 16:03, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Article is a stub and has not been updated to reflect his death. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:46, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

(Ready) RD: Carmen Valero

Article: Carmen Valero (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): EFE, El País, El Periódico, Diario AS, Marca, Relevo
Credits:

• Nominated by Oltrepier (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Mohamad Darilin (talk · give credit), Gianluigi02 (talk · give credit), Dominus Moravian (talk · give credit) and Oltrepier (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Valero became the first woman to ever represent Spain at the Summer Olympics in 1976, and won two consecutive IAAF World Cross Country Championships in 1976 and 1977. Oltrepier (talk) 11:58, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Comment: I'm currently working on the article to "de-stub" it and bring it to a good level. Oltrepier (talk) 14:44, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support I'll be damned. Great job at expanding the article. Looks solid. Gonna be bold and marking it as ready. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:36, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Japan Airlines Flight 516

Article: Japan Airlines Flight 516 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Five people are killed after Japan Airlines Flight 516 (aircraft involved pictured) collides with a Japan Coast Guard aircraft while landing at Tokyo's Haneda Airport. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A Japan Airlines Airbus A350 (aircraft pictured) collides with a Japan Coast Guard aircraft at Japan's Haneda Airport, resulting in the death of five people on board the JCG aircraft.
Alternative blurb II: ​ At Tokyo's Haneda Airport, Japan Airlines Flight 516, (aircraft involved pictured) carrying 367 passengers collides with a Japan Coast Guard aircraft, killing 5 people and leaving several injured.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Japan Airlines Flight 516 (aircraft involved pictured) collides with a Japan Coast Guard aircraft while landing at Tokyo's Haneda Airport. Five out of six people are killed on board the JCG aircraft.
News source(s): CNN, BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Midori No Sora (talk · give credit)
• Created by Kiwiz1338 (talk · give credit)

A Japan Airlines Airbus A350 aircraft collided with a Japan Coast Guard Dash 8 aircraft while landing at Tokyo Haneda Airport. Everyone on the A350 survived (some are injured), while 5 out of 6 people on the Coast Guard plane died. Both planes are reportedly destroyed and this is JAL's first fatal accident since 1985. It was also widely reported by almost every major news sources. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 10:09, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose on quality concerns. We still need a flight/accident section. Otherwise I’m feeling OK for support. S5A-0043^Talk 10:14, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

By the way, since reports suggest a collosion with a SDF plane, I say we wait until that’s confirmed before we go ahead with ITN. S5A-0043^Talk 10:22, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose for now The article will be ready to go on In The News when it is a bit more fleshed out. Bremps... 10:24, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Comment: If we eventually find significant consensus to post the blurb, I'd suggest to edit the final part to avoid confusion: according to the latest reports, all of the passengers and staff members had been evacuated before the plane caught fire, whereas the only casualties were registered within the crew of the Japan Coast Guard aircraft. Oltrepier (talk) 11:46, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose It is now known that all of the passanger on the larger plane survived - it is the 5-to-6 crew of the coast guard plane that are dead or yet accounted for. This could have been a lot worse but in terms of what actually happened it was a close call. --Masem (t) 13:18, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support hull loss of a large passenger jet of a major airline makes this notable. 2A02:908:676:E640:A968:92D3:DBA4:F952 (talk) 13:39, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support - runway/mid-air collision, double hull loss. Article in good enough state to post. Mjroots (talk) 13:42, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support - Yes, it could have been a lot worse but thankfully it wasn't. However, it is worldwide news top story. Collision involving a full passenger airline leading to fatalities and two complete hull loss. -- KTC (talk) 13:59, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support as per above, but I stand on my previous comment: we need to avoid confusion in the blurb. Oltrepier (talk) 14:08, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

  @Oltrepier, I've rewritten Alt Blurb and made Alt Blurb III mention the deaths are specifically from the JCG aircraft. How about that? 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 14:45, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

  @Midori No Sora: That's better, well done! Oltrepier (talk) 15:04, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support. Top news around the world, most significant aviation accident in Japan for nearly a decade, most significant aviation incident involving a civilian wide-body airliner since at least 2022. This is unquestionably notable and the article is in good enough shape for posting. Thryduulf (talk) 14:17, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Support - WP:MINIMUMDEATHS is not a policy. This is getting a massive amount of coverage. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 15:14, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support on notability: Historic accident for Japan Airlines, currently making international headlines globally. However, article could be significantly improved on before posting. ~~mAyLiNgOeEd (Talk to me!) (My contributions to Wikipedia📜)
  • What specifically do you think could be improved? Is there something in particular that is missing? Thryduulf (talk) 16:20, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support: Per above, a serious aviation incident that surpasses the bar for inclusion on ITN. There is no death count requirement here. Kcmastrpc (talk) 16:24, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
• Posted. I tweaked alt 3 to try to avoid repetition. Please feel free to improve it further. Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 17:02, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

  I hate to be nitpicky but there was an update to the picture of JA13XJ (the Japan Airlines aircraft involved in the crash) on the article page, may i suggest to use this here aswell? TrainSimFan (talk) 17:20, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

  I'm questioning if that photo was acceptable to upload here. That photo was taken from the "Jetphotos" website and wonder if it's copyrighted or not. From what I searched, Jetphotos does not license any of the the aircraft images under the Creative Commons policy. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 17:27, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

  That photo is indeed a copyright violation, I've nominated it for speedy deletion on Commons. Someone else beat me to removing it from the article. Thryduulf (talk) 18:15, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: The remains of JA13XJ is finally posted at the Commons that isn't copyrighted. Could I request the current image of the plane replaced with this? 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 08:06, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

  @Midori No Sora I think you should try WP:ERRORS. It seems that someone beat you to it. Aaron Liu (talk) 12:59, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

  Yup. The image was awaiting media protection when I've requested this here. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 14:29, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Stabbing of Lee Jae-myung

Article: Stabbing of Lee Jae-myung (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ South Korean opposition leader Lee Jae-myung is stabbed in Busan. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Lee Jae-myung, the leader of the South Korean opposition, is stabbed in Busan.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Lee Jae-myung, the leader of the South Korean opposition, is stabbed in Busan, but survives the attack.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Lee Jae-myung, the leader of the South Korean opposition, is hospitalized following a stabbing attack in Busan
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Bremps (talk · give credit)
• Created by ElijahPepe (talk · give credit)
• Updated by ElijahPepe (talk · give credit), Slinking Agony (talk · give credit), Unknown-Tree (talk · give credit) and TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)

Bremps... 03:45, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Wait, leaning towards oppose — Reporting from The Chosun Ilbo suggests Lee will survive the attack. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 03:48, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

  @ElijahPepe: The article has been expanded with the info available. While it appears that Lee will survive the attack, I believe it's worth blurbing per Chrisclear and that this event is making headlines. Also an assassination attempt like this on a high-profile figure is rare (no matter if it's successful or not). TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 12:10, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

  Concur. Hard to imagine someone making this argument if something similar happened to Trump. Or even Ron DeSantis. Bremps... 12:14, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Wait as per elijahpepe. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 03:55, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

  @MtPenguinMonster: Thoughts now? Article has been expanded and it looks like Lee survived the attack. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 10:57, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

  Support. The article seems to be in good quality now, and we have the update. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 11:41, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support This is the leader of the opposition party of a country, and the presumptive candidate in the next presidential election. Whether or not Lee Jae-Myung survives the attack (and I hope he does) is irrelevant. Presumably if Hillary Clinton had been stabbed in the neck in 2016, or Mitt Romney had been stabbed in the neck in 2012, those incidents would be overwhelmingly supported for a blurb by a large number of (American) editors. The only difference is that this incident took place in South Korea to a South Korean politician, and not in the US to an American. Chrisclear (talk) 06:22, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
• Wait, pending article expansion. Leaning support. Anarchyte (talk) 06:46, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

  @Anarchyte: Expanded article with the current info available. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 10:55, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Support, this is najor news. Kirill C1 (talk) 07:08, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support altblurb II (which ive added), it's certainly in the news but I think it's important to clarify that he survived the attack, which it looks like he's doing. Unknown-Tree🌲? (talk) 07:21, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

  It looks he will, but there's never any guarantees. We can put "hospitalized" or something similar that implies he is still being treated. Bremps... 08:57, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support, though article needs expansion. Notable whether he survives or not. A major politician gets stabbed in the neck is big news. Natg 19 (talk) 07:48, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
• Article is rather short and barebones. We're not really telling our readers much of anything. Perhaps wait until more is known. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 08:36, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

  @Maplestrip: Expanded article with info available. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 11:37, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

  • @TDKR Chicago 101: Support – Excellent work, the article looks in really good shape now and gives lots of details and background information. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 12:01, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support A high-ranking political figure being, let's face it, the target of an assassination attempt is blurb worthy in my mind. Article is rather short, but I'm positive it'll be expanded once more info is known. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 10:27, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality the article is barely more than a stub. I imagine that in the next 12-24 hours more information will be known, and so this article can then be properly expanded to make it a front page-worthy article. Once that's done, consider this a support vote. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:30, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

  @Joseph2302: Expanded article with the current info available. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 10:55, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

  Support now good expansion, thanks. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:11, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support on notability and quality, article looks good enough now. AryKun (talk) 12:04, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support - quality looks good enough. Notable. BabbaQ (talk) 13:08, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Support. Quality and notability are both there to me. S5A-0043^Talk 14:02, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Support Alternative blurb III quality is good enough to me Setarip (talk) 14:07, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Posted -- KTC (talk) 14:14, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

January 1

Portal:Current events/2024 January 1

January 1, 2024 (2024-01-01) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war 2023 Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip The IDF withdraws five brigades, consisting of thousands of soldiers, from the Gaza Strip and says the war will enter a "different mode of operations". (Al Jazeera) At least 27 rockets are fired by Hamas shortly after midnight at cities and towns in central and southern Israel. (Times of Israel) (Ynet) Nagorno-Karabakh conflict The Republic of Artsakh officially ceases to exist, in accordance with a decree signed by former president Samvel Shahramanyan. (Interfax) Six people are killed during an ambush in the Abyei region, an area disputed between Sudan and South Sudan. (Al Jazeera) Arts and culture Public Domain Day 2024 in American public domain The animated short film Steamboat Willie, the German-language version of the novel All Quiet on the Western Front, and other works published in 1928 enter the public domain in the United States. (Mashable) The Sheikh Zayed Festival at Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates breaks four Guinness World Records for a hour-long fireworks display and drone show during the New Year celebration. (Gulf News) Disasters and accidents 2024 Noto earthquake A magnitude 7.6 earthquake strikes the Noto Peninsula in Ishikawa Prefecture, Japan, killing 55 people. A tsunami warning is issued for multiple prefectures along the Sea of Japan. (Reuters) One person is killed and 21 others are injured in a fire at a bar in Graz, Austria, that was hosting a New Year's party. (AP) International relations Foreign relations of Ethiopia, Foreign relations of Somaliland Ethiopia announces an agreement with Somaliland to use 20 km of coastline, including the port of Berbera, in exchange for eventual recognition of the Somaliland Declaration of Independence, which would make it the first country to do so. (Reuters) Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates formally join the BRICS group as new members. (Tehran Times) War in Sudan (2023–present) Former Prime Minister of Sudan Abdallah Hamdok, leader of the pro-civillian Sudanese Coordination of Civil Democratic Forces, meets the leader of the Rapid Support Forces Hemedti in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia for peace talks. (All Africa) Law and crime 2023 Israeli judicial reform Movement for Quality Government in Israel v. Knesset The Supreme Court of Israel votes 8–7 to strike down the "reasonableness" bill passed by the Knesset in July. (BBC News) (Times of Israel) LGBT rights in Estonia Same-sex marriage in Estonia Estonia becomes the 36th country in the world where same-sex couples can marry. (Postimees) Bangladeshi economist and Nobel Peace Prize laureate Muhammad Yunus and three people that worked at his company Grameen Telecom are sentenced to six months in prison for violating Bangladesh's labor laws. (Al Jazeera)

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RD: Niklaus Wirth

Article: Niklaus Wirth (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): WinFuture, Bertrand Meyer tweet
Credits:

• Nominated by Gobonobo (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

gobonobo ^{+ c} 20:45, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Article has several citation tags. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:06, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Basdeo Panday

Article: Basdeo Panday (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC News
Credits:

• Nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Shanel (talk · give credit), Arimbaboss (talk · give credit) and Guettarda (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former Trinidad and Tobago PM. Ktin (talk) 09:01, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Article has several citation tags. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:08, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Frank Ryan

Article: Frank Ryan (American football) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3]
Credits:

• Nominated by Natg 19 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

1960s American football player. Needs work. Natg 19 (talk) 01:30, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Article needs citations. Has orange tag. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:08, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Israeli judicial reform struck down

Article: 2023 Israeli judicial reform (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Supreme Court of Israel strikes down a controversial judicial reform bill previously passed by the Knesset. (Post)
News source(s): (BBC News), (Times of Israel)
Credits:

• Nominated by The Kip (talk · give credit)

Article updated

I can see arguments both for posting (sheer notoriety of the reform attempt and protests, was blurbed (I think?)/ongoing-d before) and against (short article update, internal political matter). Figured I'd float it here nonetheless. The Kip 23:04, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• If this is to be blurbed, I feel like it should succintly specify what made the bill so controversial in the first place. Does anyone here disagree? Kurtis ^(talk) 03:52, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• If this case really is that notable, it should have it's own article rather than just occupy one section in a different article. Edge3 (talk) 06:52, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support individually notable resolution of one of the biggest political/legal stories of the past year. DarkSide830 (talk) 17:48, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support, the bill (and the large protests against it) have been extensively covered globally. Unknown-Tree🌲? (talk) 19:38, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose The usual gridlock that you get when different branches of a government are dominated by opposing parties. As the judges' opinions were quite individual and varied and the overall result was close (8-7), this seems unlikely to settle the power struggle between the Knesset and the Court. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:04, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Sidney M. Wolfe

Article: Sidney M. Wolfe (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American physician and the co-founder and director of Public Citizen's Health Research Group, a consumer and health advocacy lobbying organization. Thriley (talk) 06:49, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Orange-tagged for citation issues. The Kip 22:22, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Peter Magubane

Article: Peter Magubane (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

South African photographer and anti-apartheid activist. Thriley (talk) 04:54, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Some cn tags and lead could be expanded to reflect more of his work/how they had an impact. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:49, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Ethiopia–Somaliland relations

Article: Ethiopia–Somaliland relations (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In East Africa, Ethiopia and the breakaway state of Somaliland announce an agreement allowing Ethiopia to use the port city of Berbera in exchange for eventual recognition of Somaliland. (Post)
News source(s): VOA - France24 - BBC - WaPo - The Guardian - Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by Knightoftheswords281 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Dn9ahx (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Major news in East Africa; Ethiopia will be the first country to recognize the Republic of Somaliland. This agreement also comes with Ethiopian usage of Somalilander ports, thus giving the country greater naval access, which is notable amidst a rise in tensions between Ethiopia and Eritrea. This will also likely affect Somali-Ethiopian relations as well and possibly trigger a domino affect regarding the recognition (Western countries don't like recognizing separatist countries in Africa since there is a policy of respecting colonial borders and so they usually delegate recognition first to African countries). — Knightoftheswords 22:17, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support – The first recognition of a country by a UN member state is huge news. DecafPotato (talk) 23:21, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
• Wait until formal recognition is granted, which is the bigger story here imo. For now, it’s just an agreement to do so, but assuming it happens the first formal recognition of a state by a UN member is front page-worthy. The Kip 23:37, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
• I agree with The Kip; let's wait until official recognition is granted, at which point I will support. If nothing else, it'll have pretty seismic ramifications for Ethiopian-Somali relations. Kurtis ^(talk) 01:15, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support, Wait, Comment In theory, Ethiopia can now use the port of Berbera, not the whole port city. And other ports, too, along 20km of coastline. This could be way bigger for the state most of us already recognize as arguably landlocked than the one which still unquestionably sounds like a land of Somalia's. That's the thing, though. Could be big for both. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:10, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support, major development for Ethiopian influence in the region, and down the line recognition for Somaliland. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 02:11, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
• Weak oppose This doesn't seem like a major change but a small step towards recognition of Somalia. Not the type of country-country relation we'd post. --Masem (t) 02:13, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

  It’s not recognition of Somalia (an already-recognized UN member state), it’s recognition of Somaliland (an as-yet-unrecognized breakaway state). The Kip 02:24, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

  I also don't think you fully grasp how many more countries a country can "have relations" with if granted access to even the surface of the world's interconnected oceans. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:34, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support I think the whole Somaliland recognition thing buries the lead here. Yeah sure, this could lead to recognition of Somaliland eventually. Or it could not. We really have to wait and see with that. I think the bigger story here is that Ethiopia is getting direct unrestricted port access for the first time since Eritrean independence in the 1990s, completely bypassing the Port of Djibouti and its heavy fees. I think this carries major implications for the whole Horn of Africa region beyond the surface-level political aspect. Curbon7 (talk) 07:08, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

  Since Eritrea broke away, the landlocked status of Ethiopia has been a massive issue in the region. East Africa is becoming a geopolitical hotspot, this is a very notable development in that. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 15:11, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Wait until recognition, which would be a huge change as Ethiopia would be the first UN member to formally recognise the country; that's the main story here, not the port usage. Unknown-Tree🌲? (talk) 07:26, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

  Unknown-Tree, can you please elaborate on why you think Ethiopia getting port access is not a major aspect of this story? Curbon7 (talk) 07:59, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

• Not ready – Significant, but the relations article is extremely barebones and only got a single-line update. If we had a few paragraphs on this agreement, then we'd have something good to show to our readers. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 08:39, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Weak Support - Pretty big news, this will have major effects on African geopolitics. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 15:10, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Wait - I would strongly support putting this up if formal recognition materializes as a result of this deal. Indeed, we need to wait and see whether the deal involves some sort of true sovereign lease (cf. Guantanamo Bay), which would be ITN-worthy in its own right, or is simply an agreement for Ethiopian participation in a port project and an overseas base, which would be more prosaic. --Varavour (talk) 21:35, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support, already as is this development has been massive in relation to both Somaliland's external affairs, Ethiopia's trade and Ethiopia-Somalia relations, which in turn makes it very relevant to the entire Horn of Africa region. It's already geopolitically significant enough to blurb. Devonian Wombat (talk) 06:15, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Wait It's something that has not happened yet. When Somaliland actually does gain recognition from Ethiopia, then post. Bremps... 06:44, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) 2024 Japan earthquake

Article: 2024 Sea of Japan earthquake (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ An earthquake strikes Japan. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A magnitude-7.5 earthquake strikes the Sea of Japan
News source(s): AlJazeera The Guardian BBC The Japan Times
Credits:

• Nominated by PrinceofPunjab (talk · give credit)

Two major Tsunami warnings issued. It is getting significant international coverage. PrinceofPunjab (talk) 09:32, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Support - Biggest earthquake since Fukushima. Really bad news.s PrecariousWorlds (talk) 09:51, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Wait – No indication of significant impact yet besides tsunami warnings across the Japan Sea Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 10:12, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Wait, leaning towards support This is already the headline of several news agencies around the world, but I think we should wait for further reports to get a clearer picture (with regards to the scale of this event). Vida0007 (talk) 10:17, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Wait We need reports about the impact of the Tsunamis first, before we can make any assessment of the importance of this event. Nigej (talk) 10:39, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Support on notability. I've proposed an altblurb. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 11:17, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Lean support, wait for now Blurb is too general, altblurb could be worked on a bit more. Impact of earthquake and tsunami has not been fully accessed as of now, but is worth a post due to the significance. Tofusaurus (talk) 11:23, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Wait Casualty and damage reports seem to be nonexistent or relatively minor at the moment, and the tsunami has been relatively weak. While geologically interesting I would say we have to wait and see if any further reports of damage comes up - a 7.5 has less than 1% of the energy of the Fukushima quake, after all. Juxlos (talk) 12:02, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Support - A 7.5 magnitude earthquake is considered a major earthquake. However, blurb is too general. Setarip (talk) 12:24, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Support - One of the biggest news to possibly come out in 2024. Kampolama (talk) 12:52, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Support Quality is there, and while the number of fatalities and casualties are low for how big this was, it was unusual to have occurred in the Sea of Japan (rather than from the Pacific Ocean), where the country is not as well set up for tsunamis or the like. --Masem (t) 14:49, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Conditional support but wait until more info regarding fatalities and the like is received. qw3rty 15:55, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Wait/Oppose, obviously. Can we actually wait for impact reports to come in before we demand a blurb for a natural disaster be posted? And as of right now, we have all of three fatalities reported, so as things stand that;s a no from me. This probably will rise to a higher fatality level, but as things stand we should not be posting. DarkSide830 (talk) 17:41, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Support regardless of whether this is a comparative blip or Fukushima II: SOJ Boogaloo; definitionally a major earthquake. — Knightoftheswords 18:36, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support per above. Davey2116 (talk) 19:18, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support major earthquake, and ITN has been really slow over the holiday season as the oldest entry is from December 18th. (Unironically, that entry is an earthquake.) Kcmastrpc (talk) 19:26, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Good article on a natural disaster, in the news around the world, there is no "minimum death" requirement that needs to be met. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:28, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Congo elections

Article: 2023 Democratic Republic of the Congo general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Félix Tshisekedi (pictured) is re-elected as President of the Democratic Republic of the Congo. (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera, BBC, The Economist, France24, NYT, Washington Post
Credits:

• Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
• Created by Moondragon21 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by WikiCleanerMan (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

The election seems to have been significantly chaotic and disputed but such opposition is more democratic than none at all. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:05, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality as the article is a long way off from front page-level. The Kip 08:12, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. Significant improvements in article quality would be needed to make this front-page-worthy. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 11:19, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose. Article quality needs to be improved Setarip (talk) 16:02, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

BRICS Expansion

Article: BRICS (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates join BRICS. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates join BRICS. Argentina was invited to join BRICS, but declined.
News source(s): BBC The Economist
Credits:

• Nominated by MtPenguinMonster (talk · give credit)

BRICS expands on January 1st. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 06:49, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Comment Should we mention the rejection from Argentina? Unnamelessness (talk) 07:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose Not significant and not in the news. That a hapless state like Argentina can't see any point in joining this overblown acronym seems quite telling. The article is a bloated and disorganised mess too. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:50, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

  What are you talking about?Wait until,January 1 when it takes effect and besides ,this was extensively covered in the news when this was announced during the latest BRICS summit 5.193.27.221 (talk) 13:47, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

  Huh? It's being covered by several major news outlets, and I would consider the expansion of an intergovernmental organization by a factor of 2 pretty significant. qw3rty 15:32, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

  Just Andrew being contrarian. The Kip 06:45, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support Being covered pretty heavily in the news, and is significant in and of itself. qw3rty 15:32, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose Article is nowhere close to being ready to post. No comment yet on the significance, but the article must be improved first. --Masem (t) 16:02, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support on significance, expansion of a major international organisation, no comment on article state. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 17:23, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose what is in the news is Argentina not joining, which seems hardly notable. The quality of the article is also not there. 2A02:908:676:E640:7830:DBEE:B63:525E (talk) 18:06, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

  The others who are joining has been covered extensively before and was advised to post this on the 1st of January when this actually takes effect 2001:8F8:1473:923D:6862:3256:F94F:6E4E (talk) 08:04, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support If we can regularly post the expansion of NATO, then we should most definitely post the expansion of BRICS.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 18:33, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

  NATO expansion has far greater geopolitical impact and receives far greater coverage. BilledMammal (talk) 06:48, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Support due to how extensively it is being covered in the news Lukt64 (talk) 18:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Comment other than the participation in an annual summit, does this membership mean anything? BRICS does not have an equivalent to NATO's Article Five mutual defense pact. 217.180.228.138 (talk) 19:32, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• It gives you entry to the BRICS Games... Andrew🐉(talk) 19:52, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• They have a development bank, a reserve agreement and plans for a common currency that would have to largely replace the US dollar in international trade. NATO is a toy compared to BRICS.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 20:02, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• The bank is rather separate now as it has non-BRICS countries as members, such as Bangladesh, while Russia's participation is currently limited due to "sound banking principles". Andrew🐉(talk) 20:38, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• The bank is fully operated by BRICS, so it’s certainly an affiliated institution. It’s just that they allowed non-BRICS members to join.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 21:13, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• No, that bank is not operated by BRICS because BRICS doesn't seem to have a permanent staff or secretariat. The bank is a separate institution with its own staff while the BRICS countries are its main shareholders. So, BRICS seems to be modelled on the G7 and G20 which likewise started in an informal way and whose main focus is the summits which are organised by member countries in rotation. These associations are thus different in structure from institutions like the EU, UN and Commonwealth who do have a permanent staff and secretariat. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:52, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• It’s a separate institution, but it’s controlled by the BRICS countries, which have voting power and appoint its president on a rotational basis. UN organisations operate in the exactly same way. IMF Executive Board is not elected by the UN General Assembly, but it doesn’t mean the IMF is not a UN organisation.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 22:39, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support on notability, oppose on quality per above. The Kip 06:44, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Strongest possible support - As I promised 126 days ago. BRICS is a highly notable international organisation, especially in times like these. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 10:04, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality Very little in the article about the actual expansion. Nigej (talk) 10:44, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Support Setarip (talk) 16:01, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support – Though I also think we should consider a blurb that mentions Argentina's rejection of membership, as it seems to be a key part of this BRICS expansion. DecafPotato (talk) 21:29, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

  I've added an altblurb which mentions Argentina declining to join BRICS. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 00:18, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

  Whether a rejection of membership or declining to join, it seems clear to me that Argentina has no part in this BRICS expansion. The other five clearly do, for the exact opposite reason. Anyway, it doesn't need a new sentence and unique tense; adding , and Argentina declines. is enough, if anything must be said of the non-factor. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:01, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose, not a serious organization. Abductive (reasoning) 06:36, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support - A look at the article shows me that it needs work, as noted above, but that fact is not a deal-breaker, and that the BRICS expansion is clearly notable and In-the-News-worthy. Im OK with either blurb. Jusdafax (talk) 17:00, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose if anyone on this planet thinks that an organization where India and China have to work together to do anything will ever do anything, I have several bridges I'd like to sell them. AryKun (talk) 19:05, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Steamboat Willie in the public domain

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Article: Steamboat Willie (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Steamboat Willie, the first appearance of Mickey Mouse, enters the public domain. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Steamboat Willie, the first appearance of Mickey Mouse, enters the public domain in the United States.
News source(s): The Guardian, CNN, AP
Credits:

• Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Obviously, this should not be posted until Jan 1 ticks over. The article does need sourcing improvement before it can be posted, but it does have a section dedicated to this copyright aspect, which has been one of those things that copyright experts have been anticipating for years and the fact Disney did not try to extend its copyright (though there's other protections around this). --Masem (t) 16:47, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

• Stand in line WP:TFP has been planning and working on this for some time and so should get first crack at it. Maybe ITN can blurb it after that. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:33, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
  • If TFP will be hosting this on Jan 1, then that absolutely makes sense to leave it there and not duplicate to ITN. — Masem (t) 20:27, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support once ready/once POTD is posted. I can't think of a film more historic and ground-breaking than this. The fact that Disney does not prevent this film from entering public domain is also pretty surprising, as normally, film studios try to keep their films copyrighted for as long as possible. Definitely an ITN event (also given that notable media talks about this) in my eyes. - CDE34RFV (talk) 17:37, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Let the POTD folks do it first. Afterwards, would be happy to support. qw3rty 18:23, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose This isn't "news" in the sense of what ITN posts. The update to the article in the copyright section is minimal. It is also unclear to me from that section whether or not Disney's use of Steamboat Willie as a logo is allowing them to extend copyright, or why they didn't try. POTD is perfect for this case (assuming it really does enter public domain). – Muboshgu (talk) 19:29, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
  • They remain to have the trademark on the Steamboat Willie version of Mickey, but they no longer have copyright after Jan. 1. This is very clear from the sources. — Masem (t) 20:26, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

    I imagine I'm not the only person who is unclear on the difference between trademark and copyright, and SchroCat's point below further hardens my oppose. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:43, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose. I think I’m right in saying that it’s not been in copyright in some other jurisdictions for a while, and it coming out in one territory is hardly news. - SchroCat (talk) 19:34, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose another "hook" news story. Every year a lot of stuff goes into the public domain in different countries. This specific example has been talked about a fair amount because of Disney's lobbying for the 1998 Copyright Term Extension Act. But it is not "news". 217.180.228.138 (talk) 20:56, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose per all above. _-_Alsor (talk) 22:46, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose This isn't news. It's something that was always going to happen. HiLo48 (talk) 01:14, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

  So are solar and lunar eclipses (which are ITNR) not newsworthy because it's something that was always going to happen. — Knightoftheswords 01:29, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

  Solar and lunar eclipses really aren't newsworthy, IMHO. HiLo48 (talk) 01:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

  Hear, hear. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:50, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose. Not news now, has been known for some time. We're already featuring it at POTD which is quite sufficient.  — Amakuru (talk) 02:14, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

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December 31

Portal:Current events/2023 December 31

December 31, 2023 (2023-12-31) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Red Sea crisis Attacks on the MV Maersk Hangzhou Ten Houthi militants are killed during an engagement between four Houthi boats and United States Navy helicopters defending the cargo ship Maersk Hangzhou in the Red Sea. (Al Jazeera) Russian invasion of Ukraine Bombing of Kharkiv Russian forces bombard Kharkiv. Ukrainian authorities say that 26 people were injured and many residential buildings in the city center were destroyed. The Ukrainian Air Force reports shooting down 21 of 49 attacking drones. (tagesschau.de) (tagesschau.de 2) Afghan conflict Taliban defense minister Mullah Yaqoob says that security forces have killed or arrested several militants from Tajikistan and Pakistan who are accused of multiple attacks in Afghanistan. (AP) Law and crime Cologne Cathedral bomb plot In Bochum, NRW, Germany, police arrest a fifth suspect in relation to a car bombing at Cologne Cathedral which Islamic State – Khorasan Province had planned for today. (DW) Politics and elections 2023 Democratic Republic of the Congo general election President Félix Tshisekedi is declared the winner of the general election. (BBC News) Abdication of Margrethe II Eighty-three-year old Margrethe II of Denmark announces her abdication during her televised New Year's Eve address, effective January 14. (BBC News)

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(Posted) RD: Shecky Greene

Article: Shecky Greene (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Chicago Tribune
Credits:

• Nominated by 240D:1A:4B5:2800:203B:1879:83D1:C29B (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)

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American comedian. 240D:1A:4B5:2800:203B:1879:83D1:C29B (talk) 06:30, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Decent chunk of unreferenced material and some poor sources as well. The Kip 07:07, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
  • Support, sourcing has been cleaned up. The Kip 22:08, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• @The Kip: Article looks good now. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 17:25, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article looks good in terms of sourcing. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 17:25, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 07:00, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Melissa Hoskins

Article: Melissa Hoskins (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-01/melissa-hoskins-rohan-dennis-crash-reaction/103276588
Credits:

• Nominated by HiLo48 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Australian track and road racing cyclist, allegedly killed by her husband, Rohan Dennis, another Australian road racing cyclist. HiLo48 (talk) 03:37, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Weak oppose Results section needs more refs, but the rest of the article is in great shape. The Kip 07:02, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Benjamin Kiplagat

Article: Benjamin Kiplagat (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP
Credits:

• Nominated by Knightoftheswords281 (talk · give credit)
• Created by Pietaster (talk · give credit)
• Updated by 197.185.96.200 (talk · give credit), Skycloud86 (talk · give credit), Iffy (talk · give credit), Simeon (talk · give credit) and 71.244.100.11 (talk · give credit)

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Nominator's comments: Ugandan olympian who was fatally stabbed today. — Knightoftheswords 21:01, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Blurb? Three times he represented Uganda on the world's greatest steeplechase stage, now he's stabbed to death in his brother's car while in Kenya. Who stabbed him? We don't know. Why was he in Kenya? We don't know. Did he not have his own car? Exactly. It's not much at the moment, informationwise. But investigationally, the game is clearly afoot (wait for it). Of course, I hear a certain subset of regulars out there, and yes, he was neither the next Nelson Mandela nor another Gordie Howe. Nobody's saying he was. Death itself is the end-of-year story here. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:24, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Not Ready Article quality is quite poor. Oppose burb on merits. Subject's death is tragic but his significance is nowhere near the level that would justify a blurb. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:47, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

RD: Cale Yarborough

Article: Cale Yarborough (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Nascar9919 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Longtime racing driver, particularly in NASCAR. Won three consecutive NASCAR Cup Series championships in the late 1970s, a feat that was seen as remarkable at the time. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 20:06, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Support: It is one of the greats NASCAR drivers and a Hall of Famer in the sport Meganinja202 (talk) 02:19, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Needs work on citations.—Bagumba (talk) 02:38, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Support:I see no issue with the article. Unless someone can be more definite than a vague "needs work on Citations", I say a person as notable as Yarborough definitely belongs on the front page. One section does only have one reference, but I don't know what other references they want for it. EEBuchanan (talk) 20:20, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Unless someone can be more definite than a vague 'needs work on Citations'... There's actual tags in the article.—Bagumba (talk) 08:14, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

THere were not when I was looking at it (some time before I actually made the comment). Someone has since added them, which is helpful.

EEBuchanan (talk) 11:29, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Five cn tags and an orange tag. Article needs work. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 12:04, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Abdication of Margrethe II of Denmark

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Article: Margrethe II (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Margrethe II announces her upcoming abdication as Queen of Denmark on 14 January 2024. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Margrethe II (pictured) announces her upcoming abdication as Queen of Denmark on 14 January 2024 after 52 years of reigning.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Margrethe II (pictured) announces her upcoming abdication as Queen of Denmark on 14 January 2024 after 52 years of reigning.
News source(s): NRK BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Chaotic Enby (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Abdication of a royal head of state. While the change itself (in two weeks) will also be newsworthy, the announcement was made today. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 17:28, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support Very historical event, and as far as I recall we usually do post royal abdications. The question is whether we post it now, or on 14 January 2024. I don't know what would be most correct. I have also changed the date format to be "14 January 2024" as this style is more common for international events. Gust Justice (talk) 17:48, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose on article quality for the usual reason. Conditional on article improvement will support once the abdication becomes official. The succession is what we normally blurb. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:00, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose Given how near the actual event will be, we can wait until that date, at which point a successor should be known. Add in the article quality issued discussed above. --Masem (t) 18:04, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

  Her successor is known since 1972. _-_Alsor (talk) 18:13, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support seems quite notable. 2A02:908:676:E640:7830:DBEE:B63:525E (talk) 18:07, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality, support on notability. Is a historic event for the country as it is also the first abdication of a Danish monarch since 1146. From a Queen who reigned for more than 50 years I look forward to reading a longer and more detailed article. In addition, there are unsourced paras and lines. I don't think we will have to wait until 14 January, because on that day we can blurb Frederik's accession to the throne in the same way as we did with Juan Carlos I of Spain and Prince Felipe in 2014. _-_Alsor (talk) 18:27, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Wait. Definitely notable enough (Margrethe's abdication would leave Europe without a female monarch in a damn long while), but it's in a mere 2 weeks time when Frederik becomes King. Posting it now would take unnecessary space in the ITN field and posting it twice would be even more senseless. As for quality, I also believe it needs some kind of refurbishment, though we could say that in every ITN candidate post, so it's nothing new. Add some more details, some sources, maybe more about the abdication, and we're good in my eyes. - CDE34RFV (talk) 18:30, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support blurb. Very notable, change of longest reigning monarch in Europe. Kirill C1 (talk) 19:18, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support of course. Abdication of a monarch is very notable (not to mention that she’s been ruling for 52 years).--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 19:39, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support per above TomMasterReal^TALK 19:51, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support - Definitely for ITN. Historic announcement.BabbaQ (talk) 20:09, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Wait Until 14 January, then post. Curbon7 (talk) 20:24, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support for posting, neutral on whether to post it now or on the 14th. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 20:26, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Conditional support pending orange tag resolving. Better to post now than wait for successor when the news will be stale. Brandmeister^talk 21:00, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

  This isn't a change in prime minister. We have known who her successor is for 52 years. There will be a royal succession in 14 days, hardly something that can be considered stale. Curbon7 (talk) 22:25, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support- If orange tag is dealt with. Thriley (talk) 22:20, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Wait until the date of her abdication, and include her successor as a combined blurb (change of head of state). Natg 19 (talk) 23:35, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Wait until the 14th when the actual change takes place. Canuck^{89 (Converse with me) or visit my user page} 03:15, January 1, 2024 (UTC)
• Support but Wait. Very notable but wait until that day happens. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 04:26, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
• The update is currently two sentences in the lead and two substantially identical ones in the body (in their own section); and one of each of those is redundant to the blurb. That's insufficient. There's more information in this discussion than there is in the article. Waiting until the abdication's effective will give us time to get the article properly in shape. —Cryptic 04:42, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
  • If we bold Abdication of Margrethe II instead, it's much closer to postable quality. —Cryptic 07:41, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

    Theoretically the bolded article at ascension would be Frederik, Crown Prince of Denmark (as Frederick X), which also needs some work. Curbon7 (talk) 07:47, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Wait until 1/14 when she officially abdicates, and post with the accession of (what will be) Frederik X. The Kip 06:46, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
• Wait until she actually abdicates. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 09:02, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
• Wait until the abdication occurs. --Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 09:13, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support but Wait. Significant event, but wait till 14 January. – PrinceofPunjab (talk) 09:34, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support but wait until the 14th of January. Setarip (talk) 16:00, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb the change of the head of state, which will be ITN/R, when it occurs. No point in blurbing the mere announcement of something that will be ITN/R when it actually happens just two weeks later. JM (talk) 22:42, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
  • Head of government is ITNR in Denmark, not head of state. —Cryptic 22:48, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

    Oh. Well, I still oppose blurbing the announcement. We should wait until it happens and blurb the actual change of head of state. JM (talk) 23:21, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Tentative oppose, then wait Still has the big ol' banner.

If the banner is removed, we can post the article when she actually steps down (as opposed to blurbing it twice, which would be bizarre, or blurbing only the announcement of an event rather than the actual event, which would be even more bizarre). Bremps... 06:37, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

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RD: Eddie Bernice Johnson

Article: Eddie Bernice Johnson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): MetroNews
Credits:

• Nominated by Chaotic Enby (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Member of the US House of Representatives. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 16:53, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support once ready. Apart from a missing electoral history, the article looks good. - CDE34RFV (talk) 19:17, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

  Electoral history sections using {{Election box}} are optional, as theoretically it would be covered in the prose. Curbon7 (talk) 20:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

(Ready) RD: John Pilger

Article: John Pilger (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by 240D:1A:4B5:2800:400C:3CCF:54FC:F39A (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Australian journalist and documentary filmmaker. 240D:1A:4B5:2800:400C:3CCF:54FC:F39A (talk) 13:11, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support, very influential person in many social disciplines 15:36, 31 December 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oneequalsequalsone (talk • contribs)
• Support - Sourced and ready.BabbaQ (talk) 16:29, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose: Clean up tags remain in the "Views" section, and the "Documentaries and career" section include unsourced paragraphs. --NoonIcarus (talk) 20:15, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support - Sourcing is sufficient in my view. Jusdafax (talk) 01:45, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support (tentative) - I agree with Jusdafax that the sourcing is sufficient. The tag in the Views section is inappropriate, saying it’s using too many primary sources. But it has to to use Primary sources. Pilger is a journalist. How else can you source a section about Pilger’s views? But if there is a problem, it’s the Bibliography section. Should include ISBN’s for the publication list. And Pilger’s documentaries need a reference source. - Trauma Novitiate (talk) 15:32, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

December 30

Portal:Current events/2023 December 30

December 30, 2023 (2023-12-30) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russo-Ukrainian War Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine 30 December 2023 Belgorod shelling Ukraine launches drone and missile strikes against the city of Belgorod, Russia, killing 25 people, and injuring 110 others, according to the Russian Defense Ministry. (AP) (BBC News) Russian invasion of Ukraine Bombing of Kharkiv Russian forces attack Kharkiv with missiles, injuring at least 16 people, including a foreign journalist, and damaging civilian infrastructure. (The Kyiv Independent) Attacks on U.S. bases in Iraq and Syria Four Hezbollah members and two other militants are killed by three airstrikes at Syria's border with Iraq. (AP) Israel–Hamas war The Israel Defense Forces says that dozens of militants have been killed in Gaza amid continued tank and aerial assaults on Khan Yunis. (Times of Israel) Disasters and accidents 2023 South Africa floods Flash flooding kills 21 people in KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa. (ABC News) Three people are killed and three are injured in a house explosion in Northfield Township, Michigan, United States. (NBC News) Law and crime Corruption in Albania A court in Albania orders that former president and prime minister Sali Berisha be placed under house arrest following accusations of corruption. (Reuters) Science and technology Google settles a $5 billion privacy lawsuit alleging that it spied on users using "incognito" mode in its Chrome browser, misleading users by implying their internet activities would not be tracked, while advertising technologies continued to collect information. (ABC News)

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(Posted) RD: Tom Wilkinson

Article: Tom Wilkinson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by The Herald (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Highly acclaimed British actor of film, television, and stage. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 17:24, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

• Regrettable oppose On quality of course. Career section needs refs and his filmography needs additional sources.

• @TDKR Chicago 101: just finished sourcing his career section and filmography. —Bloom6132 (talk) 10:22, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Thank you! My issues have been addressed and article is in fantastic shape. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 10:23, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Question. Can we have a photo RD? Kirill C1 (talk) 19:19, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

No. Stephen 22:55, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support – article is well-referenced and meets minimum depth of coverage for ITN after my edits. —Bloom6132 (talk) 10:22, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 00:41, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Tony Hudgell

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Article: Tony Hudgell (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Nine-year-old Tony Hudgell becomes the youngest ever person to be awarded the British Empire Medal. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Mjroots (talk · give credit)
• Created by Tabletop123 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Necrothesp (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Mjroots (talk) 09:15, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support. Tragic story and article is of good quality. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 Stupid stuff I did 09:42, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose These types of "firsts" are better covered by DYK, not ITN. --Masem (t) 13:01, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
  • Ineligible for DYK. Mjroots (talk) 13:15, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
    • Unfortunately, that's true. This is why I think we should have DYK be open to nominations there of articles where something interesting has just happened that is reported in the news but not the type of story that is good for ITN. — Masem (t) 14:54, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
      • The article appeared on DYK on 28 August 2022. See talk page. JennyOz (talk) 15:16, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose not ITN-worthy. Anecdotal and not much more. _-_Alsor (talk) 14:19, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Is this even the UK's highest civilian award? It shows up pretty low on Template:Orders, decorations, and medals of the United Kingdom, though the higher ones all seem to be military in nature. —Cryptic 17:47, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
  • Highest UK civilian award is the George Cross. Mjroots (talk) 18:57, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose I note that this piece of trivia ("youngest ever") isn’t even mentioned in the article. Schwede66 17:56, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Now added. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:31, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Schwede66, the double amputation isn't trivial, is it? I suspect that an age of nine years makes Hudgell the youngest BEM recipient by a long way. But I'm not sure if that information has been published or how to check. It's not included at British Empire Medal. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:36, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

• Strong Oppose the bolded article would have to be 2024 New Year Honours. Which happen every year and are never blurbed. This is a run-of-the-mill event, and not world-important news. The "hook" of "it's a nine-year-old amputee" is a "hook"; which is what DYK does and ITN does not do. 217.180.228.138 (talk) 20:54, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

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RD: Gil de Ferran

Article: Gil de Ferran (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Autoweek
Credits:

• Nominated by 240D:1A:4B5:2800:6909:F19:8772:5F70 (talk · give credit)

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French-born Brazilian racing driver. 240D:1A:4B5:2800:6909:F19:8772:5F70 (talk) 03:54, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

This article has multiple unsourced sections. They should probably be improved before posting. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 04:01, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Willing to support when unsourced claims have been taken care of.BabbaQ (talk) 14:30, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

December 29

Portal:Current events/2023 December 29

December 29, 2023 (2023-12-29) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Russian strikes against infrastructure 29 December 2023 Russian strikes on Ukraine Russia launches the largest wave of drones and missiles on Ukrainian cities since the start of the war in a widespread overnight assault across the country, killing at least 39 people and injuring at least 160 others. (AP) (Ukrainian Pravda) One of the Russian cruise missiles enters NATO airspace as it travels over Polish territory, prompting the Polish government to summon the Russian charge d'affaires for an explanation. (Reuters) (Bloomberg) Mexican drug war Six people are killed and 26 others are injured in a mass shooting at a party in Ciudad Obregón, Sonora, Mexico. The shooting's target, a cartel member, is among those killed. (AP) Disasters and accidents 2023 Africa floods At least 20 people are killed by landslides caused by torrential rains in Mwenga, South Kivu, Democratic Republic of the Congo. (AP) Around 120 people are rescued from a breakaway ice floe on Upper Red Lake near Bemidji, Minnesota, United States. (CNN) International relations Foreign relations of Argentina Argentine president Javier Milei sends a letter to BRICS, rejecting the bloc's invitation for Argentina to join it. (La Nación) (BBC News) Law and crime Capital punishment in Iran, Iran–Israel proxy conflict Four people are executed by hanging in West Azerbaijan province, Iran, after being convicted of links to Israel's Mossad spy agency. (Al Jazeera) International reactions to the Israel–Hamas war, Israel–South Africa relations South Africa files a genocide case against Israel at the International Court of Justice. (Reuters) Politics and elections The National People's Congress of China appoints Commander of the People's Liberation Army Navy Dong Jun as Minister of National Defense, succeeding Li Shangfu. (CNA)

RD: Hermann Baumann (musician)

Article: Hermann Baumann (musician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): hornsociety.org
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

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Legendary German hornist, a pioneer of the natural horn, but also playing in the premiere of Ligeti's Horn Trio. There wasn't much, just a short article with most of the refs no longer working. I'm still not happy with the tiny image and the lack of a decent obit, but don't want to wait until the last possible day again. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:39, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Maurice Hines

Article: Maurice Hines (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NBC News
Credits:

• Nominated by 240D:1A:4B5:2800:203B:1879:83D1:C29B (talk · give credit)

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American actor, singer and choreographer. 240D:1A:4B5:2800:203B:1879:83D1:C29B (talk) 04:46, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Article is in poor shape ref-wise. The Kip 06:59, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Joey Meyer

Article: Joey Meyer (basketball) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): DePaul
Credits:

• Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk · give credit)

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American basketball coach--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:33, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Multiple CN tags. The Kip 06:54, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

  I have eliminated two of them. Although the other one has become 2 tags, that is because I have refed multiple facts in a multifact tag. So the amount of uncited content is less than was related to the former final tag.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:46, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Not comprehensive without some more coverage of his high school and college playing career esp. playing for DePaul under his father.—Bagumba (talk) 08:16, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

  Apologies. I have done all the editing I am going to do to this article. It seems that the optimal expansion is beyond my level of commitment/interest.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:28, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Gustavo Cisneros

Article: Gustavo Cisneros (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by NoonIcarus (talk · give credit)

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Venezuelan businessman and media magnate. NoonIcarus (talk) 03:21, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose Multiple CN tags, several woefully under-cited sections, and one wholly-uncited one. The Kip 06:51, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Michael Hardie Boys

Article: Michael Hardie Boys (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Radio New Zealand
Credits:

• Nominated by Schwede66 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Paora (talk · give credit)

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Former Governor-General of New Zealand. Some sourcing needs to improve. Schwede66 05:06, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Update: I've added some content and everything that's there is now referenced. It could be expanded, but it's good to go in its current form. Schwede66 05:42, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Oppose Virtually nothing is said about his five-year term as Governor General beyond dates, a controversy and his twice appointments as Knight. _-_Alsor (talk) 00:37, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

December 28

Portal:Current events/2023 December 28

December 28, 2023 (2023-12-28) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Southern Ukraine campaign Greek-owned cargo ship Vyssos travelling to Ukraine hits a Russian naval mine in the Black Sea, injuring three crew members, Ukraine says. (BBC News) (Xinhua) Mexican drug war La Familia Michoacana drug cartel kidnap 14 people from Texcaltitlán, state of Mexico, in retaliation for a previous incident in which 10 cartel members were killed by residents of the town. (AP) Disasters and accidents At least 13 people are killed when a bus catches fire after colliding head-on with a truck on a highway in Guna district, Madhya Pradesh, India. (India Today) At least 10 people are killed and 57 others are injured in a multiple-vehicle collision on motorway Otoyol 7 in Sakarya Province, Turkey. (AP via New Haven Register) International relations Bulgaria and Romania reach an agreement with Austria to become members of the Schengen Area through sea and air routes in March, with discussions regarding the opening of land borders scheduled to begin next year. (AFP via Le Monde) Law and crime Capital punishment in Qatar A court in Qatar reduces the sentences of eight retired Indian Navy officers who had been sentenced to death for spying. (AP) Gypsy Rose Blanchard, a victim of her mother's Munchausen syndrome by proxy, is released early from prison after serving seven years of a ten-year sentence for conspiring to murder her mother Dee Dee Blanchard in the U.S. state of Missouri in 2015. (BBC News) Politics and elections 2024 United States presidential election Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign, 2024 presidential eligibility of Donald Trump Former President Donald Trump is returned to the primary ballot in Colorado, after the Colorado Republican Party appealed Trump's removal under the 14th Amendment earlier this month. Separately, Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows removes Trump from the state's primary ballot under the 14th Amendment. (CBS) (AP)

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(Posted) RD: Per Myrberg

Article: Per Myrberg (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4], [5]
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by BabbaQ (talk · give credit)

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• Support Seems to be fully sourced and of adequate length. The Kip 07:10, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
• Is there any RS for the date and place of birth, please? Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 22:59, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

I have added a source for his birthday.--BabbaQ (talk) 23:04, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the new footnote. Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 23:23, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Mbongeni Ngema

Article: Mbongeni Ngema (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, SABC
Credits:

• Nominated by 240D:1A:4B5:2800:794F:2A2F:5B15:170 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Bobbyshabangu (talk · give credit) and Laterthanyouthink (talk · give credit)

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South African musician and playwright. 240D:1A:4B5:2800:794F:2A2F:5B15:170 (talk) 21:32, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

I have just upgraded this article significantly, although it could always do with more. Page view up from nearly zero to over 20,000 on the 27th nearly 40,000 on the 28th. (Not sure how these days are calculated - which time zone?) Laterthanyouthink (talk) 07:44, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support - widely covered, notable, high page views, article quality now okay, close to fully cited. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 14:23, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose - still uncited tags and an unreferenced section. Nigej (talk) 20:21, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

  I've just cited the last few outstanding things, and hidden a couple of uncited for later checking. It's ready to go and it is timely as he has just died. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 23:16, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support now fully sourced and ready.BabbaQ (talk) 18:05, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 00:15, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Vijayakanth

Article: Vijayakanth (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Livemint
Credits:

• Nominated by Rsrikanth05 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Sunuraju (talk · give credit), Abishe (talk · give credit), Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit), Kalpanasundar (talk · give credit) and Kelisi (talk · give credit)

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Procedural support | Meets requirements. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 06:21, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Support The subject is very much covered by various news outlets and media channels. The article has been well sourced and there are around two Citation tags to be amended. Abishe (talk) 06:50, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose Several cn tags and an unsourced section. Article's tone such as some of the wording used makes the article a bit unencyclopedic. Support Article has improved. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 23:49, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Support The subject is very much covered by various news channels.Thousands of people at his funeral and major figure in Tamil Nadu Politics.Article is well written.Errors are being fixed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8F8:1473:923D:B107:CA3E:5C7E:54AE (talk) 17:06, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Oppose Three orange tags and, more generally, many missing citations across the article. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 17:50, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Oppose Largely unsourced and much work required to get it the to required state. Nigej (talk) 20:18, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

• Comment @TDKR Chicago 101,@ Chaotic Enby,@ Nigej I have added more references to the articles and cleared the concerns with regards to orange tags and citation tags. I hope it is much better now to take a look at it. Abishe (talk) 05:23, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Support now Much improved article. Good decision to remove uncited honours secton. Nigej (talk) 09:30, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Posted Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 04:43, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

December 27

Portal:Current events/2023 December 27

December 27, 2023 (2023-12-27) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Russian strikes against infrastructure Russian drone and artillery strikes kill at least five people and cause power outages for around 70% of households in Kherson, according to Kherson governor Oleksandr Prokudin. (AP) Business and economy Renewable energy in Colombia Colombia approves regulations that encourage local communities and indigenous groups to produce energy using renewable sources and sell the energy to the national grid. (BBC News) Thousands of union members and activists in Argentina protest a decree from President Javier Milei imposing deregulation and austerity measures meant to revive the country's economy. (AP) Disasters and accidents Death of Ana Clara Benevides A forensics report by Rio de Janeiro's Forensic Medical Institute in Brazil finds that hyperthermia led to cardiorespiratory arrest that killed Swiftie Benevides. It says she did not have preexisting conditions or substance abuse that could have led to her death. (Reuters) At least 10 people are killed by thunderstorms and strong winds in the eastern Australian states of Queensland and Victoria. (ABC News Australia) A Hellenic Air Force T-2 Buckeye trainer jet crashes in a rural area near Kalamata, Greece, killing the pilot. (AP)

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(Posted) RD: Herb Kohl

Article: Herb Kohl (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [6]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

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It needs work. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:46, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support. Article looks alright for me and Kohl's notable enough to deserve a post. Support in principle, Oppose on quality - CDE34RFV (talk) 12:42 & 20:42, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose Two unsourced sections and some cn tags. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 12:55, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support Added some refs. While the committee assignments section still needs refs, I believe it is uncontroversial enough that it shouldn't be an obstacle to posting. Davey2116 (talk) 06:37, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support per Davey2116. I believe it should be ready to post now. - CDE34RFV (talk) 11:40, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support Looks good to post.BabbaQ (talk) 16:15, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• Comment There's an orange tag at Herb Kohl § Committee assignments. Per WP:ITNUPDATE:

  Articles that are subject to serious issues, as indicated by 'orange'- or 'red'-level tags at either the article level or within any section, may not be accepted for an emboldened link.

  —Bagumba (talk) 02:44, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

  Bagumba, I attached this to source his committee assignments. It's not a great format to just list every committee they've ever served on, but it's how it's done here. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:31, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

  Someone has since tagged the section for expansion.[7] —Bagumba (talk) 08:20, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

  I think a full committee list is extremely unnecessary here. Bob Dole#U.S. Senate (1969–1996), for example, quite nicely weaves together his major chairmanships together with what he accomplished in those roles without inundating the article with a crufty list. I think as long as Kohl's major committee positions are acknowledged (which they are), that is sufficient for ITN. Curbon7 (talk) 08:36, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support Well referenced. There is no need to expand on committees for this article to meet ITN requirements. Thriley (talk) 04:28, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 06:56, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Though the orange tag was removed, I think it would still have been fine to post with it, as the potential expansion needed was not considered necessary for the article to be comprehensive enough for ITN.—Bagumba (talk) 07:52, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Gaston Glock

Article: Gaston Glock (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by Johndavies837 (talk · give credit)

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Inventor of the Glock pistol. Johndavies837 (talk) 23:21, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support Article is brief but adequate. No issues. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:24, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support per Ad Orientem as the brand itself is iconic (through news, TV, videogames, films and music videos), moreso than its founder. SpacedFarmer (talk) 12:28, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support Article looks good. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 12:53, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support blurb Pivotal figure for polymer pistols. Koltinn (talk) 23:34, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 22:23, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

(Closed: Pulled blurb, posted RD) RD/Blurb: Jacques Delors

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Article: Jacques Delors (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Former President of the European Commission Jacques Delors (pictured) dies at the age of 98. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, The Independent
Credits:

• Nominated by Carhles (talk · give credit)

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Eighth president of the EU, Minister of Finance in France, led the Delors Committee – Carhles (talk) 17:38, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support - one cn as far as I can see, but otherwise looks fine. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 18:28, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• blurb? Delors is a figure worthy of blurb. Being executive president of an international organization such as the EU, and having a fundamental role in monetary integration with the euro and the future of the EU are reasons that, IMO, are sufficient for a blurb. _-_Alsor (talk) 21:09, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support and I also think a blurb should be considered, he had a profound impact on recent European history. Yakikaki (talk) 21:12, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support as per above. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 22:52, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• Not Ready Referencing is in poor shape. This is going to need some work before it can be posted. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:29, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

  @Ad Orientem: Fixed. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 12:50, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support blurb in principle, oppose on quality He basically invented the Euro, so I think he passes the significance test. Quality of article is poor though. NorthernFalcon (talk) 04:27, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  @NorthernFalcon: Article's quality such as sourcing has been fixed. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 12:51, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb on principle, as I think we should abolish them entirely except for assassinations, murders, &cThis post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 06:32, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support blurb as he played a key role in the transition from the European Economic Community to the European Union.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 09:16, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Article now adequately sourced--Ipigott (talk) 11:07, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb as not as important as e.g. a world leader, which is the standard ITN requires currently to have a blurb for their death. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:14, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support: Blurb should simply read "Former president of the European Commission". Have firmed up referencing problems.--Ipigott (talk) 12:26, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support blurb Important figure in the EU, influential figure in EU-politics and the article's quality is not bad. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 12:52, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support blurb Well done to everyone who helped fix the article. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:45, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Posting. Update the picture when ready. --Tone 16:02, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Post-posting oppose blurb While ready for RD, the article does not have any significant details of what his influence was beyond a lede and a body sentence. There appears to be sources that would be able to build out a paragraph or three to better explain this, but without it, a blurb was definitely undue at this time. --Masem (t) 17:27, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  The “President of the European Commission” section looks like a good summary of his work, with more details about his achievements available on Delors Commission. I don’t know if any further expansion is really needed per WP:SPINOFF when the main article is linked immediately below the section’s title.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 17:58, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

• Post-posting oppose blurb I oppose posting any RD as a blurb where the death itself isn't a big story. We should only blurb deaths if the reaction is like David Bowie-level, or where the death itself is the story, like a military strike or assassination. I believe that the death should be transformational, rather than focusing on the life. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:51, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Pull, what a coup! Bureaucrat who reached 98% of 100 years of age and doesn't meet any of the extremely loose requirements for a blurb posted. Insufficient debate time allotted. Abductive (reasoning) 18:00, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  What would you propose as sufficient debate time?—Bagumba (talk) 02:57, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

  More than 1 day. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 09:04, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

• Post-posting support although I completely understand the objections such as Muboshgu's above. In the end, we either stop posting RDs as blurbs completely, or we end up having these arguments about how notable these people are. We've got it wrong a lot of times now. Black Kite (talk) 18:17, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  We sure have. And I do respect the view that led to posting this as a blurb and don't expect it to be pulled. Seems he had an impactful life. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:51, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

• Post-posting support, important person who meets the blurb requirements. Sahaib (talk) 18:46, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• One half sentence of relevant, non-redundant prose update. Objectively does not meet WP:ITNCRIT. Posting this was negligent and no admin should have considered it. Pull. —Cryptic 18:51, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Pull blurb per above This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 18:57, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Pull Blurb per Cryptic. DarkSide830 (talk) 19:50, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  In addition, I have serious issues about the prose size for an article about a supposedly transformative figure in global politics. Delors's article has under 1,000 words of prose outside of the lede and textboxes. Heck, I think most sports articles for moderately important sportspeople are longer. And for having such an important role in the creation of the Eurozone, the paragraph in question that discusses how Delors contributed thereto is all of MAYBE five sentences long, and that's being generous. Yikes. DarkSide830 (talk) 08:07, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

• Pull He was sleeping at home. That's all the update adds. He could have cured cancer in the '90s and it wouldn't change the non-storiness of this supposedly big story. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:20, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Pull Posted absurdly fast (less than 24h) later without strong consensus re: blurb. WP:ITNRDBLURB is fairly clear that posting a blurb for a “major figure” requires a thorough discussion to establish consensus, and suggests that the RD post is adequate during such time. There is no reason for the blurb to be posted so quickly. Kcmastrpc (talk) 21:50, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  Posted absurdly fast (less than 24h)...: It was posted after 22+ hrs. —Bagumba (talk) 03:01, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

  I'm not sure what you're getting at... but

  • Oppose blurb His timely death is nothing more than a timely death. Does his passing meet the threshold of coverage we normally require when taking a highly coveted spot on ITN? Personally, I don't think so.

  Kcmastrpc (talk) 14:31, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

  I'm not sure what you're getting at... You said posting after less than 24 hours was "absurd". I stated it was posted at 22+ hours. So I guess that ~2 hour difference made it "absurd" for you?—Bagumba (talk) 18:23, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

  Is there something wrong with that? Kcmastrpc (talk) 18:34, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

• Pulled and dropped down to RD - Given the above comments and clear lack of current consensus for a blurb at this time. No cricitism of the initial decision, as there was an initial support for a blurb, but with comments since the posting there is a clear absence of consensus. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 22:18, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb An influential EU leader, yes, but does not meet the exceptional requirements for a blurb. RD is sufficient. Pawnkingthree (talk) 23:15, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb Per others above Centuries123 (talk) 06:08, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose pulling As I previously stated, I don't think we should be pulling blurbs except in egregious cases of quality issues. There was consensus at the time of posting, so let it just be. We're posting too little anyway. Khuft (talk) 13:30, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb Per above. Doesn't make the grade. Nigej (talk) 20:16, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose pulling I agree with Khuft. If there are no quality issues to require pulling, then I think we should leave it up. I remember the same thing happened with John Lewis a few years back; in both cases pulling an already-posted death blurb just seems odd. Davey2116 (talk) 06:37, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

  The issue is a lack of a substantial text update, which is not a direct violation of, but runs contrary to what is generally desired under WP:ITNUPDATE. This is, effectively, a quality issue as it related to ITN. DarkSide830 (talk) 07:53, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Support blurb. Influential figure, fixture in European politics. Kirill C1 (talk) 09:02, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support blurb Hugely influential figure in the development and formation of the modern EU. It's not a perfect analogy, but pulling his blurb probably the equivalent (in US terms) to pulling the blurb on a former president (or even Kissinger). - SchroCat (talk) 12:01, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

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(RD posted) RD/Blurb: Wolfgang Schäuble

Article: Wolfgang Schäuble (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Deutsche Welle
Credits:

• Nominated by Marco polo (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

German cabinet minister in many governments, longest-serving parliamentarian in German history, negotiator of German reunification and euro crisis – Marco polo (talk) 15:28, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

That sound like a blurb. Key figure in German politics in last forty years.

More than 100 references (119 as of now). Is it enough for posting RD at least? Kirill C1 (talk) 17:13, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

The truth is that he was a figure that was important beyond the German borders, as he was "director" of the European management of the economic crisis from 2008 onwards, affecting the countries of southern Europe (and negatively affecting his reputation). I think a blurb may be, perhaps, worthy of discussion. In any case, there are lines and paras that have no sources and should be fixed. _-_Alsor (talk) 21:14, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Chiming in here to also support the idea of a blurb. Another very important European politician to pass away recently. Yakikaki (talk) 21:18, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Passed away recently, but a couple of years after he'd left active political importance. There's no need to replace him, as there is for, say, Rotimi Akeredolu. There might be some real intrigue/shakeup in that case (and similar ones). InedibleHulk (talk) 22:59, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

If he was that important, it is not clear immediately from the article. It needs something like a Legacy or Impact section (perhaps tied to the Recognitions section) to explain this in detail. There may be bits and pieces buried in other sections, but we should have something that makes it very clear to the reader why we're drawing special attention to this person. (I also feel the quality is on the weaker side for a blurb). Masem (t) 12:53, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

• Not Ready A handful of CN tags but also an orange neutrality tag that definitely has to be handled before this could be posted. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:37, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

  Support RD Much improved. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:32, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb on quality per Ad Orientem. On notability, however, at least RD. Schäuble was one of, if not the most influential non-ruling post-war politician in Germany. Being Minister of the Interior during German reunification and Finance Minister during Europe's biggest economical crisis says a lot about his influence not just in Germany, but also in Europe (as Marco Polo and Alsor already said). In addition to being a trailblazer for physically disabled politicians in Germany, I, as a German, can confirm that Schäuble was generally well-liked and highly regarded across party/ideological lines. As such, the news of his demise were met with dismay not just from politicians, but also from the people in general. - CDE34RFV (talk) 12:38, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  By now Support Blurb. Article looks good and no tags left. Maybe I'm biased, but if Delors gets blurbed, then Schäuble deserves it as well. - CDE34RFV (talk) 20:14, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  Delors got pulled from the blurb since. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 11:49, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

  Everyone is presumed notable enough for RD by default. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 11:48, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

• Weak oppose on article's quality. The controversy section has two tags. I've been told before that controversy sections are a bit tricky in terms for the article's quality and that removing the section altogether wasn't a bad idea. Not sure what others think?

  Schäuble was involved in the CDU donations scandal and lost influence. Should be in the Controversies section. Also his role in the EU debt crisis concerning Greece. The rest should be removed. Grimes2 (talk) 13:10, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  Be that is it may, the section has two tags with some issues in terms of neutrality. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 13:45, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  I've rewritten the section. Two small subsections left over. I've removed also the two orange tags. Grimes2 (talk) 16:40, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  Support RD looks good. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 16:57, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support RD per TDKR Chicago 101. Grimes2 (talk) 17:03, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support RD as well. Article is fine. Support blurb too, if the discussion turns that way, but let's already post it as RD. Khuft (talk) 13:32, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support RD / Oppose Blurb Clearly meets threshold for RD, but doesn't rise to the level of blurb, even though he was a key figure in regional/national politics. Kcmastrpc (talk) 14:36, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

  Everyone who has article meets threshold for RD. Kirill C1 (talk) 09:04, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support blurb Definitely a transformative figure in the history of Germany, as well as the eurozone as a whole. Davey2116 (talk) 06:37, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb. No doubt an important figure within German politics. But there are 195 particular countries out there and reading through the article I struggle to see even the alleged massive role that Schäuble played in the EU besides the article seeming to state a lot that he was playing "hardball [sic]". DarkSide830 (talk) 07:58, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

  But Germany is the country whose politics influences other countries. Kirill C1 (talk) 09:24, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

  Same can be said for 194 other countries. DarkSide830 (talk) 20:26, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

• @Admins willing to post ITN: Is this RD ready? BangJan1999 17:00, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Posted as RD – Schwede66 17:24, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

RD: Ghali Umar Na'Abba

Article: Ghali Umar Na'Abba (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Channels TV, Peoples Gazette
Credits:

• Nominated by Ammarpad (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former Speaker, Nigerian lower chamber. Article needs some cleanup. – Ammarpad (talk) 11:36, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Procedural oppose | Nigerian pols seem to be dropping like flies today This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 06:34, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose We don't hold up posting RDs because too many people from one country die too close together. We pause because articles are not properly referenced, as is the case here. Schwede66 02:47, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
• Only one footnote for 1300+ words of prose. And tagged for {POV} issues. This wikibio is not ready for RD. --PFHLai (talk) 04:45, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Rotimi Akeredolu

Article: Rotimi Akeredolu (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Hausa, The Cable
Credits:

• Nominated by Gwanki (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Aromicati (talk · give credit), EPTUNES (talk · give credit), AbdulOlu (talk · give credit) and Benbaahi (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Incumbent governor of Ondo State Additional references, Channelstv, Premium times Gwanki (talk) 10:38, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support Just one CN tag. I think it's passable for ITN. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:39, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support I "took care of" that dubious claim. Still a little left for nitpickers to fix, grammarwise. Was thinking a blurb might be in order earlier, but no longer. The new governor seems to have known this moment was coming for a good while, and the transition went smoothly. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:01, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
• Posted – Schwede66 02:45, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Lee Sun-kyun

Article: Lee Sun-kyun (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters, The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Sunuraju (talk · give credit) and NelsonLee20042020 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Sad story. Some citation issues but it seems that it's almost there. Onegreatjoke (talk) 05:27, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

There is an unsourced claim in the 2007-2012 section. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 06:20, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

I added that CN; can't find any English-language sources to confirm that Lee was appointed ambassador for the Health Insurance Review Agency in 2007, and won an award from the Korea Advertisers Association in 2008. Maybe there is something in Korean. Funcrunch (talk) 06:50, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

I’m going to be bold and remove that sentence, since I haven’t been able to find any sources that mention the appointment or specific reward, and it is only one sentence. There is possibly a source for it though so if it is found it should be added back in. Dantus21 (talk) 02:03, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Support though issues needs resolving first. Mainly as he was one of the stars of one of Korea's best known film. SpacedFarmer (talk) 12:31, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Support There are some issues in the article but most of the it seems decently cited. There is a merge proposal but imo that shouldn’t block an RD listing since that’s more technical and not related to any content issues. Dantus21 (talk) 02:00, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Support per nom --NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 12:30, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Support - very notable, and the article is decent enough. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 06:15, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Support now that the article appears suitably referenced. Funcrunch (talk) 22:20, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Support article is ready, very notable and tragic death which hopefully will get to RD soon. Flip^andFlopped ツ 23:25, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

• Posted – Schwede66 02:36, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

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