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Ebrahim Raisi A helicopter crash near Varzaqan, Iran, kills eight people, including President Ebrahim Raisi (pictured) and Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian. In boxing, Oleksandr Usyk defeats Tyson Fury to become the first undisputed heavyweight champion in twenty-four years. Protests over voting rights changes break out in the French territory of New Caledonia. Lee Hsien Loong steps down after nearly twenty years as Prime Minister of Singapore, and is succeeded by Lawrence Wong. Ongoing: Israel–Hamas war timeline Russian invasion of Ukraine timeline War in Sudan timeline Recent deaths: Fernando Martínez Castellano John Koerner Pat Buckley Katherine Porter Dabney Coleman Darren Dutchyshen view — page history — related changes — edit

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October 23

Portal:Current events/2022 October 23

October 23, 2022 (2022-10-23) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Somali Civil War 2022 Kismayo hotel attack Nine people are killed and over 40 others injured by an al-Shabaab suicide car bombing and shooting attack at the Tawakal Hotel in Kismayo, Jubaland, Somalia. The three insurgent gunmen are killed during a gunfight with security forces. (Reuters) Israeli–Palestinian conflict Tamer al-Kilani, a founding member of the Lions' Den militant group, is killed by a bomb planted on a motorcycle in Nablus, West Bank. (Al Jazeera) Insurgency in Paraguay Osvaldo Villalba, a leader of the Marxist–Leninist Paraguayan People's Army rebel group, is killed alongside two other militants during a gunfight with soldiers in Amambay, Paraguay. (BBC) Sudanese nomadic conflicts Sudanese conflict in South Kordofan and Blue Nile The death toll from the clashes over a land dispute between the Hausa and Berta ethnic groups in Blue Nile, Sudan, increases to 220. It is one of the deadliest incidents of ethnic violence in the country during the last years. (Al Jazeera) Pro-Bolsonaro Brazilian politician Roberto Jefferson wounds two federal policemen with rifles and grenades, who besieged his house in an attempt to arrest him for violating terms of his house arrest. (The Guardian) Disasters and accidents 2022 Irkutsk military aircraft crash A Sukhoi Su-30 crashes into a residential building in Irkutsk, Irkutsk Oblast, Russia. Both pilots are killed. No casualties on the ground are reported, but the crash causes a power outage that affects more than 150 houses. (Reuters) (Meduza) Korean Air Flight 631 A Korean Air Airbus A330-300 overruns the runway of Mactan–Cebu International Airport after making two landing attempts during poor weather. No injuries are reported among the 173 occupants on board, but the fuselage sustains heavy damage and the airport was shut down. An investigation is already underway. (Reuters) A fire, spread by strong winds, occurs on the slopes of Tanzania's Mount Kilimanjaro. (The Guardian) Law and crime Human rights in Australia The United Nations accuses Australia of breaching its human rights obligations after the state governments of New South Wales and Queensland refuse to allow UN inspectors into detention facilities. (The Guardian) Arshad Sharif, a prominent Pakistani journalist, is shot dead by police at a roadblock in Kajiado County, Kenya. (BBC News) Politics and elections 2022 Slovenian presidential election Slovenians head to the polls to elect their president. (Reuters) 20th National Congress of the Chinese Communist Party Xi Jinping is re-elected as General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party by the Central Committee, beginning a third term as the paramount leader of China. (Al Jazeera) 2021 Guinean coup d'état ECOWAS confirms that Guinea's ruling junta has agreed to restore civilian rule in two years. (France 24) Thousands of people, including teachers and students, protest across Hungary against the government of Viktor Orbán, demanding higher salaries and the right to strike amid a high level of inflation in the country. (Straits Times) Sports 2022 Formula One World Championship Red Bull Racing win their 5th F1 Constructors' Championship after winning the United States Grand Prix. (Formula1.com) 2022 IHF Men's Super Globe SC Magdeburg win the IHF Men's Super Globe handball championship after beating FC Barcelona 41–39 in the final. (ZDF) (Sport.de) 2022 Argentine Primera División Boca Juniors win their 35th national league championship in the last round after they and Independiente draw 2–2 and, simultaneously, title contenders Racing miss a penalty and lose to Boca's arch rivals River Plate 1–2. (Mena FN)

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RD: Leszek Engelking

Article: Leszek Engelking (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Leszek Engelking nie żyje. Był autorem m.in. przekładów T. S. Eliota i Kundery
Credits:

• Nominated by 4me689 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: died on October 22 and is on the 2022 article 4me689 (talk) 22:10, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

RD: Louis Gigante

Article: Louis Gigante (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: First reported today (October 23); died on October 19. —Bloom6132 (talk) 21:04, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Xi Jinping's third term

Articles: Xi Jinping (talk · history · tag) and 20th National Congress of the Chinese Communist Party (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Xi Jinping is elected for a 3rd term as the leader of China. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The National Congress of the Chinese Communist Party elects Xi Jinping (pictured) to a third term as General Secretary.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The National Congress of the CCP chooses Xi Jinping (pictured) as General Secretary.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Xi Jinping (pictured) retains power as General Secretary after the CCP National Congress
News source(s): CNN, WSJ, AP, AlJazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by Indefensible (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Conclusion of the 20th National Congress of the Chinese Communist Party and selection of the 20th Poliburo Standing Committee. - Indefensible (talk) 04:07, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Support - it is a significant election result—with respect to succession norms—for the largest nation on the planet. Ayyydoc (talk) 04:38, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Support – it's significant given the prior stipulation of a two-term limit 675930s (talk) 05:00, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose on blurb The blurb is misleading, Xi is not elected as the country's leader but instead the CCP's general secretary. Noting the state - party separation in China, President and general secretary are different positions, with the latter not having a term limit.Yxuibs (talk) 05:38, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Altblurb - New Altblurb looks good. Yxuibs (talk) 07:52, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support - Significant event. Altblurb and image added. Quantum XYZ (talk) 06:26, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
• Needs updates! The Congress article contains several statements such as "is expected" and little content on actual outcomes. --Tone 09:23, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support - "Not an election" is not a reason for not at blurb this time because he broke all the previous rules of CCP for his own power this time. But I do think that the word "elects" should be changed because in no way he is really elected. Mahogany115 (Message) 12:19, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

  The blurb doesn't say he was elected by the people - it clearly mentions that he was chosen by the CCP Congress, which is what happened. This being (or not being) a rubberstamp body is another issue. Regards. Quantum XYZ (talk) 12:24, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support alt blurb, a significant event, particularly since a third term for the General Secretary represents a break with tradition. The original blurb is a no go: The terms "elected" and "leader" are too vague and easily misinterpreted. Nsk92 (talk) 12:24, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment Oppose – From what I've seen, third term was expected all along. [1]. Significance/impact faint. – Sca (talk) 12:29, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

  In my opinion, this is equivalent to being re-elected to the presidency of the US, which is significant. I don't think that the election being rigged is an argument here. Quantum XYZ (talk) 12:36, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

  Political theater by an entrenched party pol. -- Sca (talk) 12:46, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

  They've gone from decades of power sharing amongst the elite to basically one man rule. That's a fairly significant shift. Pawnkingthree (talk) 13:09, 23 October 2022 (UTC

  They didn't 'go' to that at this pre-choreographed congress. In effect for some years. News value nil. -- Sca (talk) 13:30, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support alt-blurb - It's definitely a dictatorial stitch-up (and bolding the congress will also direct people to read about how Hu Jintao was treated), but this is the mechanism by which the world's most populous nation currently selects its leader, and the selection of Xi Jinping for a third term - which only Mao Zedong had previously had - is clearly significant and worthy of a headline. We report on democracies, we report on monarchies, we should clearly report on this. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:26, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

  What changes for the people of the world's most populous country as a result of this congress? -- Sca (talk) 13:52, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

  We'd still post the win of an incumbent president in a national election, even if that doesn't change how the country's ruled. ITN is not a place to RGW. Masem (t) 13:55, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

  Agree with Masem. What changes for the people of America if Biden is re-elected in 2024? We'd still blurb it, so why not this? Quantum XYZ (talk) 13:58, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

  You're ignoring that the U.S. president is elected in a genuine vote by the population. (But don't get me started on the #!$+*%¿ Electoral College.) -- Sca (talk) 14:04, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

  Again, we're not here to RGW. If there is significant political commentary about the fakeness of the election it should be covered on the target article, but ITN should not care about that. Masem (t) 14:06, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

If? – Sca (talk) 14:17, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

• Not trying to 'right a great wrong.' Just trying to ignore it -- or to ignore meaningless political theater that isn't really even newsworthy. Yawn... -- Sca (talk) 14:10, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support - significant political event in the world’s most populous country, rightly considered comparable to the re-election of a president in a democratic republic. Blurb needs to be carefully worded and wikilinked considering that the “leadership” of China is not explicitly associated with any one particular official title.

Who posted? – Sca (talk) 17:40, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support, It is a significant event in the political arena. Alex-h (talk) 16:41, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support A third term for the leader of China for the first time since Mao is a significant development. Pawnkingthree (talk) 16:53, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support - Whether it fits our picture of a representative democracy in a land of milk and honey is immaterial. It's a willy-nilly silly old re-election, yes, but it is still a re-election of a world leader, and we need to grin and bear it rather than pooh-pooh the outcome. 🌈WaltCip-(talk) 17:12, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb + altlurb1 not really an election, more of a show, Xi calls all the shots and used the event to load the executive with yes men. Elections under duress with no checks and balances are not elections by definition. Therefore added altblurb2. Abcmaxx (talk) 17:30, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

  How about "Xi Jinping stays in power in China." -- Sca (talk) 17:44, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

  the definition of the word "election" doesn't stipulate anything about who the electorate can be; or under what conditions they can vote. This, that; and the other are all elections, and none is more so one than another. ✨  4 🧚‍♂am KING  21:04, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

we should be impartial and neutral, which means we shouldn't be whitewashing dictators and call their leadership processes exactly as they are, not use weasel words. "Election" is misleading to describe this and should be avoided. Abcmaxx (talk)

the word "Election" is not misleading, since it was an election; even if the outcome was never in doubt given what the electorate was. Saying "elected by the Chinese Communist Party national congress" isnt whitewashing anything, thats exactly what has happened; it wasnt the Chinese public that elected him. The onus is not on us to put our own definition to what an election is. To suggest Elections under duress with no checks and balances are not elections by definition. is adding your bias to what an election should be. That being said, to suggest that there are no checks and balances within the CCP and that this election was conducted under duress is also questionable.... Sure the electorate was going to be stacked with CCP loyalists, but I dont think they were under any duress to vote for Xi. ✨  4 🧚‍♂am KING  23:33, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support ALT 1. Happy for "chooses" to be substituted for "elects" in that blurb. Significant as any top level election of the world's superpowers. Schwede66 18:24, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Altblurb it's probably the best worded in my opinion. 4me689 (talk) 22:31, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

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Support Through Socialism with Chinese characteristics, China has eradicated poverty, homelessness and illiteracy. The capitalists are represented through the party to keep them from being compradors, and are kept in line, with Xi Jinping thought now nationalizing and controlling the private rapidly. The genius of Deng's theory is keeping the dictatorship of the workers while also using the benefits of global capitalism to build the revolution. America's fate was sealed when Deng inherited a broken China and built it into a superpower. LONG LIVE DENG XIAOPING THOUGHT! LONG LIVE CHINA! Buck3983 (talk) 19:18, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support on significance. He leads the most populous country on earth; how is a term extension not newsworthy? Vanamonde (Talk) 19:46, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support anything but blurb nom as that doesn't mention the NCCCP (the thing that's in the news). Very exciting event: XJP secures his reign as Paramount leader, growing closer to Mao; protests in Beijing without any incidents; XJP gave a long monologue on Hu Jintao's leadership and immediately proceeded to purge him; etc etc. ~~ lol1VNIO⁠👻 (I made a mistake? talk to me) 19:59, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support - an dictator continues to rule. No big news, but support on overall significance.BabbaQ (talk) 20:19, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support per Vanamonde93. Jusdafax (talk) 20:39, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support notability and article(s') quality but Oppose the word "election" in blurb(s) as per my previous comments. Added altblurb3 further to previous comments. Abcmaxx (talk) 21:34, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support altblurb I don't know why you all want to complicate things so much, really. Besides, the quality of the two articles is good. _-_Alsor (talk) 22:19, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support ALT 1 Whether you like it or not, this was still technically an election. I don't see any of the "oppose" !votes giving a solid reason why we should not post. This is a story of global importance given China's standing on the world stage. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:20, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
• The National Congress article has not been updated with the actual outcomes Stephen 22:42, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment – This user could support the original blub with one small refinement: Change "elected" to "erected." – Sca (talk) 23:41, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

October 22

Portal:Current events/2022 October 22

October 22, 2022 (2022-10-22) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russo-Ukrainian War 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine Power outages are reported across Ukraine and citizens are advised to store water as Russian airstrikes across the country continue to damage critical infrastructure and energy facilities. (Reuters) Islamic State–Taliban conflict The Taliban kill six ISIS–K members during a raid in Kabul, saying they were responsible for the bombings of a mosque and school in the city last month. A Taliban security member is also killed during the raid. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents Fifteen people are killed and 40 others are injured when a bus collides with a truck in Rewa district, Madhya Pradesh, India. (AP) Costa Rican security minister Jorge Torres says that a search is underway for a plane carrying five German citizens and a Swiss pilot, which disappeared near the city of Limón. Among the passengers on board is Rainer Schaller, CEO of McFit. (DW) (Reuters) Politics and elections 20th National Congress of the Chinese Communist Party The 20th National Congress of the Communist Party closes in Beijing, China. The party's new 205-member Central Committee, elected by delegates at the end of the week-long congress, did not include outgoing Premier Li Keqiang or former Guangdong party secretary Wang Yang, who had been seen as a potential replacement as premier. The Сongress has been described as strengthening the power of Xi Jinping, who is likely to be re-elected as General Secretary tomorrow. (Reuters) 2022 Italian government formation Brothers of Italy leader Giorgia Meloni is sworn in as Prime Minister of Italy, becoming the first woman to hold the position. (The Washington Post) Mahsa Amini protests More than 80,000 people take part in a rally in Berlin, Germany, to show their solidarity with protesters in Iran. (France 24) Opposition to Brexit Thousands of protesters march in London to protest the alleged economic effects of Brexit and to demand that the United Kingdom rejoin the EU. (The Guardian) Sports 2023 FIFA Women's World Cup The draw for next year's FIFA Women's World Cup, to be co-hosted by Australia and New Zealand, is held at the Aotea Centre in Auckland. (ESPN)

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(Posted) RD: Pablo Eisenberg

Article: Pablo Eisenberg (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Washington Post
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: First reported today (October 22); died on October 18. —Bloom6132 (talk) 01:31, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support. Some awkward phrasing in the lead but not enough to worry about. Thryduulf (talk) 08:48, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 10:24, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Dietrich Mateschitz

Article: Dietrich Mateschitz (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by TartarTorte (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Stewwie (talk · give credit), OyMosby (talk · give credit) and Unknown Temptation (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Significant businessman and motorsports figure as well. The article for him is shorter than expected, but it seems to be pretty well sourced except for one piece of personal life that could reasonably be removed anyways as unsourced. TartarTorte 22:02, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose. The Personal life section looks OK, but the Sports section needs significantly more sources. Thryduulf (talk) 23:59, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support. The article is definitely significant enough and well sourced enough to go in the RD section. --Chrill (talk) 10:27, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

  There are currently six explicit CN tags. Thryduulf (talk) 11:03, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose Article has multiple citation needed tags. FAdesdae378 (talk · contribs) 16:45, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

  No more CN tags remaining. --PFHLai (talk) 18:15, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support, as said by Chrill above.Horcoff (talk) 19:02, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 20:43, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

RD: Josephine Melville

Article: Josephine Melville (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)
• Created by Moondragon21 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: tragic death in unusual circumstances. Article needs a lot of expansion but actually has potential as there are enough citations and sources. Only created today though but worth nominating to draw attention to it. Abcmaxx (talk) 21:45, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose – Stub. – Sca (talk) 22:45, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
• Needs a lot of expansion and the filmography needs sourcing. Thryduulf (talk) 23:57, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
• Come on, folks. Please don't be wet blankets too quickly! This stub is not even half a day old. Let it grow... Let it grow... --PFHLai (talk) 01:18, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

  Unsee growth. -- Sca (talk) 12:35, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose Article is a stub. FAdesdae378 (talk · contribs) 16:45, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

(Closed) Giorgia Meloni sworn as PM

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Article: Giorgia Meloni (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Brothers of Italy leader Giorgia Meloni is sworn in as Prime Minister of Italy, becoming the first woman to hold the position. (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:

• Nominated by 675930s (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Currently in Portal:Current Events, we got Ulf Kristersson's ascension to Swedish PM. On the last discussion, somebody said that the portal will post results, but not government formation results; not sure Ulf Kristersson's premiership being listed is congruent with this — Preceding unsigned comment added by 675930s (talk • contribs) 04:55, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Notable event, first female prime minister and first prime minister who have roots in a far right party. Yxuibs (talk) 05:33, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose Already closed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#(Closed)_Aftermath_of_Italian_General_Election 5.151.106.4 (talk) 10:17, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

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October 21

Portal:Current events/2022 October 21

October 21, 2022 (2022-10-21) (Friday) Disasters and accidents Six people are killed in an apartment block fire in Hartland, Wisconsin, United States. Local police say that an "active criminal investigation" is underway. (ABC News) At least seven people are killed and four others are injured in a road accident in Lima, Peru. (Xinhua) Health and environment Mexico reports its first case of the highly pathogenic H5N1 virus in a wild, non-poultry bird in Metepec, State of Mexico. (Reuters) International relations Argentina–Venezuela relations The last five members of an Iranian cargo plane with Venezuelan crew arrive in Caracas after four months in Argentine custody, where a court seized the plane on suspicions of terrorism at the request of a US court. (Reuters) Politics and elections Aftermath of the 2022 Pakistani constitutional crisis The Election Commission of Pakistan bans former prime minister Imran Khan from seeking an elected office in the government for five years, citing Khan's deceit in declaring some of the gifts that he received from foreign dignitaries during his premiership. (France 24) 2022 British Columbia New Democratic Party leadership election David Eby is acclaimed as the leader of the British Columbia New Democratic Party and becomes the next Premier of British Columbia following the disqualification of his sole opponent, climate activist Anjali Appadurai. (Reuters)

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(Posted) RD: Gus Stavros

Article: Gus Stavros (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tampa Bay Times; University of South Florida
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)
• Created by MatthewHoobin (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: First reported today (October 21); died on October 18. —Bloom6132 (talk) 10:42, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Article is well-sourced. FAdesdae378 (talk · contribs) 16:51, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support. Article is in good shape. Marking ready. Thryduulf (talk) 17:32, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 20:46, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jim Bolla

Article: Jim Bolla (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Las Vegas Review-Journal
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 10:32, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support. Good enough. Thryduulf (talk) 18:13, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 22:22, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Harry White (jockey)

Article: Harry White (jockey) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC News; The Age; Victoria Racing Club
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 10:01, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Good enough. Thryduulf (talk) 10:04, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 10:24, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Peter Schjeldahl

Article: Peter Schjeldahl (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times; ARTnews
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 23:51, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support. Some more dates in the personal life section would be good if you can find them, but that's not enough to hold up posting. Thryduulf (talk) 00:44, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 06:10, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

(Closed) October 2022 Conservative Party leadership election

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Article: October 2022 Conservative Party leadership election (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2], [3]
Credits:

• Nominated by 4me689 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: this is a upcoming leadership election that will happened on 24–28 October 2022. 4me689 (talk) 17:00, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

• Strong oppose Change of PM is ITN/R. We'll post that as a blurb and do not need to go full UKpedia with ITN. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:14, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose as per above; only the result needs posting. rawmustard (talk) 17:52, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose - we're already pretty much set in for the resignation and new PM items, we don't need this as well. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:55, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose. Given that we blurbed Truss' resignation and will blurb her successor there is nothing to be gained from having this on ongoing. Thryduulf (talk) 18:22, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• 'Support adding to ongoing. Major event in G7 country currently in deep government crisis. Kirill C1 (talk) 19:05, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose given that we will likly blurb her sucessor, it is unecessary. NW1223<Howl at me•My hunts> 19:42, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: May Blood, Baroness Blood

Article: May Blood, Baroness Blood (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Belfast Telegraph
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: British politician, I've added a missing ref and trimmed some uncited stuf - Dumelow (talk) 12:25, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support. A little light on details, but good enough. Thryduulf (talk) 13:38, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support It's fine. --Jayron32 14:45, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose does not look notable. 4me689 (talk) 17:26, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

  If you don't think the subject is notable, then nominate the article at AfD. Per the instructions above, any person who has an individual article and who has recently died are notable enough to appear on RD. Thryduulf (talk) 18:21, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

  WP:IAR. 107.127.49.7 (talk) 19:03, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

  In what way will ignoring this rule benefit the encyclopaedia? Thryduulf (talk) 19:25, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

  Besides the fact that notability is besides the point for RD, the subject is clearly and obviously notable via WP:NPOL. Curbon7 (talk) 22:28, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support - clearly notable. Article looks good to me. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:06, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support I fixed one cn tag, looks ok. Pawnkingthree (talk) 20:12, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• Marking as ready. Thryduulf (talk) 20:31, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 22:01, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

(Closed) Aftermath of Italian General Election

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Article: Giorgia Meloni (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Giorgia Meloni is designated Prime Minister of Italy by President Sergio Mattarella, becoming the first woman in the role. (Post)
News source(s): ABC The Australian Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by 675930s (talk · give credit)

Article updated

• Oppose Not a significant development beyond what we already posted. For comparison, we post the result of POTUS election in November but not the inauguration in January. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:17, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• Not Quite Ready The three tables at the bottom need a clear source. Otherwise, the article is in good shape. [Noting that changes in government are ITNR.) -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:21, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

  Yeah, and we posted it in September. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:25, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

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October 20

Portal:Current events/2022 October 20

October 20, 2022 (2022-10-20) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russo-Ukrainian War 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine A Russian missile strikes a major thermal power station in Burshtyn, Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast, Ukraine, causing "quite serious damage", according to governor Svitlana Onyshchuk. (Reuters) The United States reports that Iranian troops are in Crimea, assisting the Russian military in using Iranian drones. (The Hill) Mahsa Amini protests A 17-year-old protester, Abolfazl Adinezadeh, is killed in the city of Mashhad by Iranian security forces, who shot him at point-blank range. (BBC News) 2022 Belarusian and Russian partisan movement Anti-Kremlin Bashkir nationalists announce the creation of "The Committee of Bashkir Resistance", with the aim of achieving independence for Bashkortostan, although the committee had already been established in September. (Euromaidan Press) (The Insider) (WP) Iraqi conflict Two people are wounded in a car bombing in Sulaymaniyah, Kurdistan Region, Iraq. (Reuters) Chadian Prime Minister Saleh Kebzabo says that about 50 people have been killed during anti-government protests in the country. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents Telecommunication between the Shetland islands and the British mainland is interrupted when a subsea cable is damaged. (BBC News) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in China Additional restrictions are imposed in Beijing as the number of positive COVID-19 cases quadruples in the city. (The Guardian) Law and crime The Australian Capital Territory decriminalizes the possession of illicit drugs in small quantities, including cocaine, amphetamines and heroin beginning in October 2023. Those caught with illicit drugs for personal use will be fined or referred to drug rehabilitation programs. (The Guardian) Law and crime Death of Harry Dunn Anne Sacoolas, the wife of a US diplomat, pleads guilty at the Old Bailey (via video link from the USA), to causing the death of British teenage motorcyclist Harry Dunn by careless driving. (ABC News), (The Guardian) Politics and elections Premiership of Liz Truss October 2022 United Kingdom government crisis An investigation is launched into a Commons vote on fracking where several Tory MPs were allegedly bullied, manhandled, and verbally abused. The 40 ruling party MPs who failed to back the government in the vote now face disciplinary action in the form of losing the whip. (The Guardian) (BBC News) (The Independent) (The Guardian 2) Prime Minister Liz Truss announces her resignation, to take effect once a replacement has been appointed. (BBC News)

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(Posted) RD: Bettye Crutcher

Article: Bettye Crutcher (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4]
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 15:59, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support. Short but good enough. Thryduulf (talk) 17:34, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 21:02, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Lucy Simon

Article: Lucy Simon (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times; Associated Press; Variety
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 16:44, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Article is ready for RD. Quality is good, suitable but not necessarily outstanding. Cheers. WimePocy 17:07, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support. Reasonably comprehensive and fully sourced. Thryduulf (talk) 18:16, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 03:49, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Indonesian liquid medicine ban

Article: Toxic cough syrup (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Indonesia bans all liquid medicines after the deaths of almost 100 children from toxic cough syrup. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Sherenk1 (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Article could use a little more detail but worth starting a debate on significance I think. A large number of deaths and a ban affecting the fourth-most populous country in the world feels pretty significant - Dumelow (talk) 06:55, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support – Major tragedy, great example of Wikipedia coverage. Not sure if the mass death or the material ban is the topic of this ITN, but the article looks fit for featuring. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 11:26, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support I suspect the ban just covers oral, syrupy medicines rather than everything that comes in liquid form, such as vaccines and eye-drops. The Indonesian language article says "Larangan juga ditujukan kepada tenaga kesehatan untuk tidak tidak meresepkan obat-obatan berbentuk sirup." (The prohibition is also aimed at health workers not to not prescribe drugs in the form of syrup.) So perhaps we should use the word syrup rather than liquid. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:54, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support as it's a tragic event with an immediate response. This is a very good example of what should be posted.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 19:10, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose The target article contains only three lines of text in total about toxic cough syrup in Indonesia and only a single sentence about the ban. We need more information to post on the main page; as essentially the target article has functionally no additional information beyond what the blurb says. That's not acceptable. --Jayron32 19:16, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose. The target article contains very little information about this event, and expanding it much further in that article would add undue weight to the article on toxic cough syrup.4meter4 (talk) 21:37, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support, It has enough information for ITN. Alex-h (talk) 16:46, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose the target article has very very little about this specific event. --Masem (t) 16:54, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

2022 Haitian crisis

Article: 2022 Haitian crisis (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The United Nations Security Council approves a travel ban and arms embargo in Haiti, amid an ongoing crisis of armed gang violence, economic inflation, acute hunger, cholera, and civil unrest. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Amid a socioeconomic and political crisis in Haiti, the United Nations Security Council approves a travel ban and arms embargo aimed at armed gangs in the country.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Amid a humanitarian crisis in Haiti of economic inflation, widespread hunger, and civil unrest, the United Nations Security Council approves a travel ban and arms embargo aimed at armed gangs in the country.
Alternative blurb III: ​ In response to armed gangs blockading Haiti's largest fuel depot, the United Nations Security Council approves sanctions on the country, amid a humanitarian crisis of economic inflation, widespread hunger, and civil unrest.
News source(s): Al Jazeera, Associated Press, CBS News, France24, Reuters, United Nations
Credits:

• Nominated by MatthewHoobin (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Unfortunately the page in question, 2018–2022 Haitian protests, needs work. I've updated it with some recent developments and citations, but there still seems to be some information missing, as well as prose that can be improved. Before I looked at it earlier today, the article mentioned both the president of Haiti up to 2021, and the current prime minister, but neglected to note that the current prime minister took office as a result of the president being assassinated. It might even be worth considering splitting this topic into more than one article (i.e. Mahsa Amini protests, 2021–2022 Iranian protests, 2019–2020 Iranian protests, etc.).

• Oppose A protracted four year long event is not good for ongoing. There needs to be a well definition event to make appropriate for main page Masem (t) 18:54, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Weak oppose but of course if there is a military intervention from the UNSC, that would almost certainly warrant posting. 🌈WaltCip-(talk) 20:17, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose Article is orange-tagged for needing updates. FAdesdae378 (talk · contribs) 01:18, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose - per Masem, though if there is UN intervention, this should be posted. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 08:35, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• I great appreciate the work you put in to bring this article much more up-to-date. As it stands right now, I don't think it's suitable for ITN per above, but if there were a high-quality article specifically about the blockade, that might've worked well within our system. Of course, actual international intervention will likely also make the topic qualify better, as long as the article remains up-to-date. Thank you for the nomination ^_^ ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 08:48, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

  Agree with Mable. -- Sca (talk) 13:42, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

• @Masem, WaltCip, FAdesdae378, PrecariousWorlds, Maplestrip, and Sca: The United Nations has unanimously voted to impose sanctions on Haiti. I have split the information regarding the current state of the country into its own article, 2022 Haitian crisis. Forgive me for not knowing how to properly proceed here: should I update the above proposal to reflect these changes, or should this discussion be closed, and a new proposal be opened? —Matthew - (talk) 23:14, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

  @MatthewHoobin: You could change the target article to 2022 Haitian crisis. I’ll do it for you. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 04:08, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

  @Blaylockjam10: Thank you. I've updated the blurbs as well to reflect the more recent information. —Matthew - (talk) 04:43, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support – Yeah this is the good stuff. Very nice work on this article; this would be a very good subject to feature on ITN. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 10:17, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose – Per Masem, Walt. Complex, ongoing domestic turmoil. Murky. – Sca (talk) 11:40, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support AltI. Yes it is a domestic situation, but it's a pretty dire one that's drawing serious international attention. US and Mexico considering sending troops now. DarkSide830 (talk) 02:19, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

  U.S. sent supplies, vehicles. [5] -- Sca (talk) 12:38, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) Liz Truss resignation

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Articles: Liz Truss (talk · history · tag) and October 2022 United Kingdom government crisis (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Amid a government crisis, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom Liz Truss (pictured) announces her resignation, becoming the shortest-serving prime minister in British history. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The Prime Minister of the United Kingdom Liz Truss (pictured) resigns after six weeks in office.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The Prime Minister of the United Kingdom Liz Truss (pictured) announces her forthcoming resignation after six weeks in office,
Alternative blurb III: ​ After [only?] six weeks in office, UK Prime Minister Liz Truss (pictured) announces her forthcoming resignation.
News source(s): BBC News, AP, Guardian, DW, France 24, AlJazeera, [6]
Credits:

• Nominated by Smurrayinchester (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: She has handed her resignation to the king, making this the relevant moment (we posted Boris Johnson's resignation at the equivalent time). She will remain in office during the October 2022 Conservative Party leadership election (UK) Smurrayinchester 12:43, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Alt1. BilledMammal (talk) 12:44, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Support - Just as I was writing my 'Oppose' vote for the other nomination, this gets announced.

This is huge news, a massive leadership crisis in a major power. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 12:45, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Support seems good to me. - 125.59.140.165 (talk) 12:47, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• Comment This nomination and the one immediately below should be merged as they are basically the same story. Never mind, I see the government crisis one is an Ongoing nom. But I think a blurb would be preferable. Pawnkingthree (talk) 12:49, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Support, with preference to alt 1 as simpler. — Ixtal ^{( T / C )} ⁂ Non nobis solum. 12:51, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support and add Truss' image like we did with Johnson (if I remember correctly). Quantum XYZ (talk) 12:54, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Isn't it the norm for every other country in the world to post when the new PM comes in? —Cryptic 12:55, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

  In this case though we have the "short-serving ever" angle. On the other hand, there should be a replacement within the week so it may be worth waiting.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 13:02, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• Comment Prime Minister should be capitalised Oscar666kta420swag (talk) 12:56, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

  • Only before her name. -- Sca (talk) 13:08, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support with preference to main blurb. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:58, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support once successor is appointed Alt1. Huge news coming out of the UK. Cheers. WimePocy 13:02, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support main blurb (edit conflict) Kpddg ^(talk) 13:03, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support Making him shortest-serving prime minister in British history. HurricaneEdgar 13:01, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

HurricaneEdgar, "her". — Nythar (💬-🎃) 13:15, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Support, but prefer alt 1 as shorter and less pointed. Ceoil (talk) 13:04, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Support With Image replacing Swedish Prime Minister. Frzzl (talk) 13:04, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Notable. Nythar (💬-🎃) 13:04, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose for congruence I still think that resignations of heads of government or state (except abdications of monarchs) shouldn't be included in Main Page until a new successor is appointed. But since Johnson's resignation was posted, it's not common sense to do the opposite this time. _-_Alsor (talk) 13:05, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support – Massively covered. No. 1 news story today. Favor Alt3. – Sca (talk) 13:06, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support Massive News coming out of the UK. I have a preference for Blurb 1. ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 13:09, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Support - major story and historic significance given how short tenure is BeaujolaisFortune (talk) 13:13, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• Comment I object to the "Ready" tag. This nomination is half an hour old and we should wait for more opinions. Rushed postings have been controversial in the past.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 13:14, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

  But this has lots of precedent, no? I say the sooner the better for events like these 2A00:23C8:B03:9F01:D12B:34D:4EDD:24C0 (talk) 13:19, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Alt1 Tetizeraz - (talk page) 13:18, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment I knew it! I was first! I believe mentioning October 2022 United Kingdom government crisis in the blurb is preferable because this is no ordinary resignation and what caused her resignation directly. And may well cause the next one in a few weeks time. Abcmaxx (talk) 13:19, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support Nice. Davey2116 (talk) 13:20, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Ready ready ready, post post post.--🌈WaltCip-(talk) 13:22, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Strong support The Daily Star's lettuce wins This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 13:23, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support original blurb The Kip (talk) 13:24, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment Back in July, almost everyone was clamoring to get Johnson's resignation posted as soon as possible. Then, 2 weeks later, Mario Draghi resigned which was nominated for ITN. Suddenly, people were less enthusiastic, garnering comments such as: "UK Prime Ministers tend to resign less often than Italian ones", "Our standard practice is to post the change, not the resignation", "Wait until replacement is announced", and "Johnson is a bit of a different process. The UK government itself is stable". Draghi's resignation stayed open and was never posted. Now, not even 2 months later, another UK prime minister resigned and ITNC again can't wait to get it posted. Seems a bit strange to me. YD407OTZ (talk) 13:26, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

  Because it's true that UK PMs resign far less often than Italian ones, and the UK government is traditionally far more stable. Draghi is the 11th Italian PM since 2000, with Meloni set to become the 12th, and only one (Berlusconi in both terms) having lasted longer than 2ish years in office; in contrast, Truss is #6 for the UK in that same stretch, and her successor will be the seventh, with only Brown and Truss having lasted less than three years in office. Truss' resignation is likewise especially notable considering she's the shortest-serving British PM ever, by a wide margin.

  In short, it's simply the truth that Italy tends to cycle through PMs far more often than the UK, making it a less notable occurrence. I do think Draghi's should've been posted, however. The Kip (talk) 14:24, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

  Global media has an anglosphere bias. It naturally has an effect when determining what is "in the news". Comment by James Lewis Bedford (talk) 16:16, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose The current blurb and altblurb are misleading at best, and possibly just plainly incorrect. Liz Truss is the Prime Minister and will remain so until a new leader is appointed. Chrisclear (talk) 13:29, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

  German Wiki's blurb says she announces her intention to – or that she will – resign. (Liz Truss hat ihren Rücktritt als Premierministerin des Vereinigten Königreichs angekündigt. (My emph.) -- Sca (talk) 13:38, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose per YD407OTZ. We cannot continue to treat the UK as a special case if we care about avoiding bias. GreatCaesarsGhost 13:39, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

  Coverage, significance. -- Sca (talk) 13:41, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

  Yes, because of bias. That's the point. GreatCaesarsGhost 13:52, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

  Nobody was opposing based on coverage or significance when Draghi's resignation was nominated. All the Waits were simply procedural, because of some "standard practice" not to post resignations. Yet this practice does not seem so standard when nominations from the Anglosphere are considered. I don't even oppose this nomination (I'm neutral on it), but we can't pretend to care about unwritten rules for some nominations, and then start talking about "exceptions" for others. YD407OTZ (talk) 13:56, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

  I will only say that this blurb has the additional hook of her tenure being the shortest ever for UK prime ministers. 331dot (talk) 13:59, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

  If she's been to the king, she has effectively resigned and will be replaced. -- Sca (talk) 14:07, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• Posted. Picture in the works. First blurb seems to have agreement. The blurb is correct because she has announced her resignation, not carried it out. 331dot (talk) 13:40, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Note The link to October 2022 United Kingdom government crisis takes to a redirect to Premiership of Liz Truss. Does this need changing? ISD (talk) 13:55, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

  That bold redirect by an editor does not appear to have consensus; it will probably be reverted.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 14:05, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• Note What has been posted has two factual errors. She has not yet resigned as prime minister, just as leader of the Conservative Party. They will now select their new leader, who will become PM in due course. And secondly, it is not certain that she will be the shortest ever, that depends on when the new leader is finally selected. -- DeFacto (talk). 14:33, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

  Perhaps we're jumping the gun slightly, but it's expected the process of choosing a new leader will take about a week at most, at which point this blurb will almost certainly still be up. She's also going to be the shortest-serving PM unless it somehow drags out by another two and a half months, which is highly unlikely. The Kip (talk) 14:38, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

  "announces her resignation" is accurate. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 14:49, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

  What DeFacto is saying is that she has technically announced her resignation only as Leader of the Conservative Party, not Prime Minister. I don't think the distinction matters, myself. Pawnkingthree (talk) 14:54, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• I love the haste you guys do for UK-related articles. It's a spectacle. Howard the Duck (talk) 14:35, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

  Don't you know? This is Wiki-UK. But in all seriousness, this is the problem with the Westminster System -- nothing stopping them from having 10 prime ministers a year if they can't form a government. --Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 19:08, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

  Howard the Duck I invite you to nominate other articles from underrepresented areas that are equivalent to this. We can only consider what is nominated. Rightly or wrongly, some countries get more coverage than others in worldwide English-speaking media. 331dot (talk) 20:04, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• The becoming the shortest-serving prime minister in British history bit should be excised per WP:CRYSTAL. She is still PM. --LukeSurl ^t c 14:36, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

  She's got 74 days to go until she wouldn't hold that title, so while it's perhaps a little WP:CRYSTAL, it's also highly, highly unlikely it doesn't prove to be true. The Kip (talk) 14:39, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

  In agreement with the 1922 committee, the leadership contest will be quickly held within a week and she will step down at its completion. It is with this in mind that she is being reported a the shortest-serving prime minister. Comment by James Lewis Bedford (talk) 17:40, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• Post-posting support - although I do think we could have taken a little longer to discuss this before posting. That was hasty, but I don't think it should be pulled. I also think the posted blurb is the right one - Truss' shortness of tenure is absolutely a key part of the story, and we're being told her replacement will definitely be in place by next Friday at the latest, by which time she will still have served less than half the time in office that George Canning, the previous record-holder, did. When that successor is announced, then we should pull this blurb and replace it with the new one. No point having both stories up at once when it's the same underlying event. ETA: I posted this in the wrong place, not realising I wasn't logged in. My apologies, but I now can't post it from my account without linking that publicly to my IP. 2A00:23C6:9E09:1D01:D977:F97F:391C:5506 (talk) 15:22, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Post-posting comment – Amid a government crisis, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom Liz Truss (pictured) announces her resignation, becoming the shortest-serving prime minister in British history.

— "Prime Minister of the United Kingdom Liz Truss" seems quite unwieldy. Suggest change to "United Kingdom Prime Minister Liz Truss," or even "UK Prime Minister Liz Truss, with "Prime Minister" linked to Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. (Every reader of English Wiki who's even halfway literate knows UK stands for United Kingdom.)
Also, since "Prime Minister" has already been mentioned, suggest replace second "Prime Minister" with the widely used abbreviation "PM." – Sca (talk) 15:39, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

This is called a false title, and is deprecated in British English. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:01, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

This may be an unpopular position in much of the Anglosphere, but personally I think headlines benefit from the correct use of articles, prepositions, and so on. GenevieveDEon (talk) 15:46, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Support This would definitely be a good article to post, I was planning on waiting until the new successor is announced, and then merge the articles, but this seems like it could be news by itself. Editor 5426387 (talk) 00:07, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

Support Alt1 4me689 (talk) 13:24, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

• Comment – Current blurb – Amid a government crisis in the United Kingdom, Prime Minister Liz Truss (pictured) announces her resignation – reads much better. – Sca (talk) 13:39, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

  I agree with this suggestion. And also, I think it would be best to add the "shortest-serving prime minister in British history" bit after the leadership contest is done. Vida0007 (talk) 20:45, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

Support. This has made front page headlines internationally. All of the blurbs seem fine to me, and I have no strong preference about which one should be featured.4meter4 (talk) 21:33, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

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(Closed) UK political meltdown

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Article: October 2022 United Kingdom government crisis (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Usually I would be against posting something so UK centric and probably the first to oppose similar nominations. But it's decending into fisticuffs, something that would be unimaginable in a place famous for its restraint just a few months ago. The new PM is about to be ousted after barely starting, half the top minister already resigned. The currency is tanking. Scotland is pushing for independence. Nearly every labour union is on strike or planning one. It's in the news every day, not just in the UK. To the unconvinced here is an interview with Tory Charles Walker absolutely tearing into his own: BBC News. It's a political meltdown of epic proportions that I believe is worth nominating. Abcmaxx (talk) 11:45, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• Comment Wait until there's actually action to any of the 'major events' that the nominator has proposed is happening. Scotland is pushing towards independence? All talk until a referendum. Currency tanking? Worldwide event. EVERY labor union proposing a strike? We'll see. We have nothing but talk, speculation, rumors, and a politician mad at his own. ITN is not "UK Rumor Hour", it never has, and never will be. Cheers. WimePocy 11:56, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose What we can't think of is that any government crisis has to be on Main Page. It's usual in every country in the world, and the Italianization of British politics forces us to see this more often. WimePocy is right. Speculation, individual resignations, miscellaneous messes and magnanimous statements mean nothing. _-_Alsor (talk) 12:06, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Italianization of British politics is a great descriptor! Abcmaxx (talk) 12:12, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment The political crisis is very real though, as are the resignations and implications of a dysfunctional government for its inhabitants. I mean the Conservative Party is literally descending into violence amongst each other (The Guardian), (BBC News), (The Independent). Abcmaxx (talk) 12:09, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose This is the type of day-to-day politics that WP should be staying far away from until the dust settles (summarizing after all is said and done), and in terms of ITN, the only thing we care about is if there's a another revolving door PM. --Masem (t) 12:24, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Oppose and Wait - If Truss ends up resigning, or if an election is called, then this can be posted. But as of the moment, this is just a particularily bad episode in UK politics, not ITN-worthy yet.

I would keep an eye on what's happening in the UK though. As you said, there are lots of events that could be very notable in the future, like Scottish and Northern Irish secessionist movements, economic crisis, etc. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 12:35, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

This aged well. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 13:03, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose Truss is now expected to resign per Guardian's liveblog, and that would be blurbworthy in itself once a successor is chosen. rawmustard (talk) 12:38, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• NOW this can be a blurb, she just announced she's resgining. [7]. --Masem (t) 12:39, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support. Truss has resigned, and we'll have a new PM in a week. This is completely unprecedented in British politics. Thryduulf (talk) 12:40, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose - We can post the resignation of Truss as we did with Johnson, but a government crisis should not be posted to ongoing per above. Quantum XYZ (talk) 12:52, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Snow close See you all above. _-_Alsor (talk) 13:06, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose Better as a blurb now Truss has gone. -- Pawnkingthree (talk) 13:08, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

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October 19

Portal:Current events/2022 October 19

October 19, 2022 (2022-10-19) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russo-Ukrainian War 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine 2022 Ukrainian southern counteroffensive Russian forces begin evacuating thousands of civilians from occupied areas of Kherson Oblast, according to Russian-installed governor Volodymyr Saldo. Ukraine calls on residents to ignore the Russian orders to leave their towns and villages. (BBC News) 2022 Russian martial law Russian President Vladimir Putin introduces martial law, beginning Thursday at midnight, in the recently annexed territories of Ukraine. Additionally, an "intermediate level of preparedness" is introduced in Crimea and the federal subjects bordering Ukraine. (AP) (The Insider) 2022 Haitian crisis, Bahamas–Haiti relations Prime Minister of the Bahamas Philip Davis says that he is ready to send troops to Haiti as part of a peacekeeping force if asked to do so by the Caribbean Community. (Reuters) Internal conflict in Myanmar Three staff members and five visitors are killed by two bomb explosions inside Insein Prison in Yangon, Myanmar. Ten others are injured. (Al Jazeera) Arts and culture The European Parliament awards the Sakharov Prize to "the people of Ukraine". (Politico) Business and economy Belarusian involvement in the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine Belarus says that it is unable to pay off its debt because of international sanctions imposed due to its role in the Russo-Ukrainian War. (Reuters) 2021–2022 inflation surge Inflation in the United Kingdom rises to 10.1%, the highest recorded level since 1982, amid a cost of living crisis and sharp increases in food prices, according to the Office for National Statistics. (The Guardian) Disasters and accidents Central American migrant caravans Three Venezuelan migrants are killed and five others are injured in a van accident on a highway in Chiapas, Mexico. (ABC News) Health and environment The Indonesian Health Ministry announces that 99 children have died this year due to acute kidney injury with the deaths being linked to paracetamol syrups used to treat fevers. (Reuters) An outbreak of cholera has killed five people in Lebanon, with a total of 169 cases. It is the first outbreak in the country since 1995. (Al Jazeera) Law and crime A court in Phnom Penh, Cambodia sentences opposition figure Sam Rainsy to life in prison for "attempting to concede territory to a foreign entity". The sentence was delivered in absentia because Rainsy has been living in exile in France since 2015. (AFP via The Bangkok Post) Politics and elections Premiership of Liz Truss October 2022 United Kingdom government crisis Suella Braverman resigns as Home Secretary of the United Kingdom and is replaced by Grant Shapps. (The Guardian) Same-sex marriage in Mexico Same-sex marriage in Tabasco The Congress of Tabasco votes to legalize same-sex marriage. (as)

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(Posted) RD: Joanna Simon (mezzo-soprano)

Article: Joanna Simon (mezzo-soprano) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by 4meter4 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 4meter4 (talk) 18:06, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support. B class article, everything looks good. Thryduulf (talk) 18:24, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support, did some copy-editing. Thank you 4meter4, I was afraid I had to do another one when I read that she died. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:52, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• Marking as ready. Thryduulf (talk) 20:31, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 21:56, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Dave Herman (American football)

Article: Dave Herman (American football) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Jets
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 11:00, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

• Weak support. It's fine and sourced, but it's almost all stats in prose form. Thryduulf (talk) 13:33, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

  360 words of text. -- Sca (talk) 13:45, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

  That's why I said in prose form. Thryduulf (talk) 14:42, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support it's fine. --Jayron32 14:44, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 21:50, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jay Owen Light

Article: Jay Owen Light (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Harvard Business School
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: First reported today (October 19); died on October 15. —Bloom6132 (talk) 09:08, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Good to go.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:31, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support. No issues with the article. Thryduulf (talk) 11:37, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support Per above. Article quality is fine for RD. Cheers. WimePocy 11:57, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support, Per above, article is OK. Alex-h (talk) 16:59, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted—Bagumba (talk) 15:16, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Charley Trippi

Article: Charley Trippi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [8]
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 22:26, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Good to go.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:31, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support B-class article about someone who seems much more notable than the average American footballer that gets nominated here. Thryduulf (talk) 11:36, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support. One of the all-time greats, once called by Jim Thorpe "the greatest football player I have ever seen." BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:24, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 01:08, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

(Closed) Ongoing removal: Mahsa Amini protests

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Article: Mahsa Amini protests (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item removal (Post)

Nominator's comments: I'm not really sure if this meets the criteria for ongoing - not much substantial edits in the last few days and the timeline section is totally empty, linking to a separate article for which the updates are only until the protests on 17 October. Quantum XYZ (talk) 13:16, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Oppose removal It's October 19, and the most recent substantive updates are only 2 days ago. There's at least 2 items from 17 October: Updated death figures from Iran Human Rights, and EU Sanctions issued. WP:ONGOING has some general rules of thumb for the Ongoing section, and generally "too old" is only if it is older than the oldest blurb; the oldest blurb is definitely older than 2 days old, so this is still being regularly updated by our standards for "regular". --Jayron32 13:26, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose removal from ongoing at this time, per Jayron32. Way too early for the removal. Nsk92 (talk) 13:34, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Oppose removal - per Jayron32. Having the oldest blurb be the "cutoff" point for an ongoing item seems like a good rule of thumb PrecariousWorlds (talk) 13:40, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose removal It is still in the news, way too early for removal. ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 14:57, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose removal - no point in removing this right now. Still an ongoing situation.BabbaQ (talk) 15:01, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

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October 18

Portal:Current events/2022 October 18

October 18, 2022 (2022-10-18) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russo-Ukrainian War Russian invasion of Ukraine Crisis at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant Ukraine accuses Russia of kidnapping two senior employees of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant. (Agence France Presse via Barron's) Three people are killed and critical infrastructure is destroyed by Russian missiles in Kyiv, causing fires, explosions, and power outages. Several other cities across Ukraine are also hit in targeted attacks against water supplies and energy facilities, with power outages being reported in 1,162 towns and villages. (Reuters) (BBC News) Iran agrees to provide Russia with medium-range missiles, surface-to-surface missiles and combat drones for the war in Ukraine. (The Guardian) Insurgency in Jammu and Kashmir Two people are killed in a grenade attack in Shopian, Jammu and Kashmir, India. (Reuters) Multiple people are killed and 10 others are abducted after gunmen storm a hospital in Niger State, Nigeria. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents Hurricane Julia The death toll from the October 8 landslide in Las Tejerías, Venezuela, increases to 54. (La Prensa Latina) Seven people are killed when a helicopter carrying pilgrims crashes in Uttarakhand, India. (AP) Two people are killed and three others are injured when a hot air balloon carrying tourists crashes in Nevşehir, Turkey. (AP) Health and environment The U.S. Department of Agriculture announces that more than 47 million chickens and turkeys have died this year of H5N1 bird flu or related culling in the United States, amid the deadliest outbreak of the disease in the country since 2015. (Reuters) International relations Status of Jerusalem, Australia–Israel relations Australian Foreign Minister Penny Wong confirms that Australia will no longer recognise West Jerusalem as the capital of Israel until peace negotiations are finalised. (The Guardian) Foreign relations of the United Kingdom, Visa policy of the United Kingdom The United Kingdom announces visa-free entry for ordinary citizens of Colombia, Guyana and Peru. (El Espectador) (Demerara Waves) Chechen–Russian conflict, Russia–Ukraine relations The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine passes a resolution recognising Chechnya as "temporarily occupied" by Russia, as well as condemning war crimes committed by Russia during the First and Second Chechen Wars. (Reuters) Law and crime Internet censorship in Russia A court in Moscow fines Amazon, Inc. four million rubles (US$65,000) for failing to delete content on drug use and for "propagandizing suicide". (Reuters) Two people are killed and another person is injured in a stabbing in Ludwigshafen, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany. The suspect, a 25-year-old Somali man, is shot and injured by police before being arrested. (AP) Politics and elections 2021–2022 inflation surge A nationwide strike begins in France with workers demanding higher salaries amid increasing inflation in the country. (Euronews)

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(Posted) RD: Ken Kortas

Article: Ken Kortas (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Sentinel-News (Legacy.com)
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: First reported today (October 18); died on October 15. —Bloom6132 (talk) 13:41, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support. Article is of sufficient quality for ITN. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:19, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support. No problems with the article. Marking ready. Thryduulf (talk) 17:53, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted—Bagumba (talk) 15:17, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Harvey Wollman

Article: Harvey Wollman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [9]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 04:03, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Good to go.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:33, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support. Article is in good condition. Thryduulf (talk) 11:33, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support, Article has enough information. Alex-h (talk) 16:56, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted—Bagumba (talk) 04:23, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

RD: Robert Gordon (singer)

Article: Robert Gordon (singer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American rockabilly singer. Thriley (talk) 03:13, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose too much uncited material. Thryduulf (talk) 11:32, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment. It's currently not ready, but I started working on citing the material and/or removing content that can't be sourced. I should hopefully be able to get it into good shape in the next 12 hours.4meter4 (talk) 00:13, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
• Note the article has been moved from Robert Gordon (musician) to Robert Gordon (singer). It presently has an orange tag for unsourced material. Thryduulf (talk) 18:21, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose Article is orange-tagged for citations. FAdesdae378 (talk · contribs) 18:23, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Valery Rubakov

Article: Valery Rubakov (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Euro Weekly News
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Russian physicist. I added a few details on his death - Dumelow (talk) 13:00, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

• That he mentored multiple others appears to be sourced to the Russian Wikipedia rather than a reliable source, it'll be read for RD. More information about his personal life and death would be good if there is anything in reliable sources, if not the sections should be combined. Thryduulf (talk) 11:31, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Thryduulf, good spot. I've removed the mentoring bit and combined the last two sections. Will look to see if I can add anything from current reporting - Dumelow (talk) 12:14, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support. I've fixed the referencing for the Hamburg Prize, it's all good now I think. Thryduulf (talk) 17:58, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 03:21, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Ole Ellefsæter

Article: Ole Ellefsæter (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): snl.no
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Oceanh (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Norwegian lumberjack, Olympic champion in 50 km cross-country skiing, national champion in 3000 m steeplechase, and singer. Oceanh (talk) 11:39, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support. Each of the sections are quite short, but what's there is sufficient and well sourced. Thryduulf (talk) 11:28, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 03:19, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Charlie Smithgall

Article: Charlie Smithgall (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Lancaster Patriot
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit) and Scanlan (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former mayor of Lancaster, Pennsylvania Dumelow (talk) 10:56, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose – No article. Snow. – Sca (talk) 12:16, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Come on. It was an obvious clerical error. The article exists and is so easy to find. So easy to fix the error, too. --PFHLai (talk) 12:43, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

    Be old. Cheers. WimePocy 12:00, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• support – Referenced and good.BabbaQ (talk) 14:45, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
• I have to ask the question - is a mayor of a town of 58,000 people notable per WP:NPOL? Black Kite (talk) 22:31, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

  Well obviously not via WP:NPOL, it would be via WP:GNG; still not sure notability is met. For our purposes, there are a few spots in need of citations. Curbon7 (talk) 01:59, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support The subject is most interesting as a cannon collector and expert -- top of that field, it seems. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:24, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose. I've just added three CN tags, but it's fine for RD once those are resolved. If you dispute the notability of the subject then nominate the article at AfD. Thryduulf (talk) 11:27, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

  Thanks Thryduulf, someone had added these sentences since nomination. I've cited them - Dumelow (talk) 12:22, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

  Support, all cited and now ready for posting. Thryduulf (talk) 17:59, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• Posted—Bagumba (talk) 00:42, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Horst Metz

Article: Horst Metz (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Freie Presse
Credits:

• Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)
• Created by Charles01 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: German politician, served as minister of finance in Saxony. The article looks good to me. Would profit from a more formal infobox regarding his position, and perhaps recent updates, but as his political career was over more than 10 years ago, those might be minor. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:52, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

• support – Referenced and ready.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:47, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 22:33, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Charles Duncan Jr.

Article: Charles Duncan Jr. (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [10]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 23:52, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 23:40, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

October 17

Portal:Current events/2022 October 17

October 17, 2022 (2022-10-17) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russo-Ukrainian War 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine Russian forces attack the Shevchenkivskyi District, Kyiv, and an energy facility in the city of Sumy with HESA Shahed 136 suicide drones, killing eight people. (BBC News) (CNBC) The European Union establishes EUMAM Ukraine, a special military mission that will provide training for the Ukrainian Armed Forces in EU member states. (Council of the EU/the European Council) Mali War After killing hundreds of civilians and forcing thousands to flee, the Islamic State in the Greater Sahara is reported to have captured the town of Ansongo in eastern Mali. (Reuters) Four Chadian United Nations peacekeepers are killed and two others are injured in a roadside bombing near Tessalit, Kidal Region. (Reuters) Tigray War Shire in the Tigray War Ethiopian government forces capture the city of Shire from the Tigray Defense Forces. (Reuters via MSN) 2022 Haitian crisis United Nations Secretary-General António Guterres calls for "armed action" to establish a humanitarian corridor in Haiti, saying Haitians face a "nightmarish situation", especially in the capital, Port-au-Prince. (Al Jazeera) Arts and culture Sri Lankan writer Shehan Karunatilaka wins the 2022 Booker Prize for his novel The Seven Moons of Maali Almeida. (CNN) Disasters and accidents 2022 Yeysk military aircraft crash A Sukhoi Su-34 crashes into an apartment building in Yeysk, Krasnodar Krai, Russia, killing at least 15 people and wounding 19 more. (BNO News) (The Moscow Times) The death toll from the ongoing floods across Nigeria, which started in early summer, increases to more than 600. (BBC) Health and environment 2022 Uganda Ebola outbreak Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni places the capital city of Kampala under high Ebola response alert after two people who travelled from Mubende tested positive, with one of them later dying, amid an outbreak of the disease in the country. (Xinhua) International relations Iran–European Union relations The European Union sanctions Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Basij paramilitary military, and its morality police in response to the repression of the Mahsa Amini protests. (i24 News) Law and crime Aftermath of the assassination of Shinzo Abe Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida orders an investigation into the ties between the Unification Church and members of the ruling Liberal Democratic Party amid heavy scrutiny of the claims of Abe's assassin. (Al Jazeera) Sports 2022 Ballon d'Or Karim Benzema wins the Ballon d'Or for the first time in his career after winning the 2021–22 La Liga and the 2021–22 UEFA Champions League with Real Madrid as well as the 2020–21 UEFA Nations League with France. (BBC Sport) Alexia Putellas retains her Women's Ballon d'Or title, after scoring 18 goals for Barcelona, who won all 30 of their league games this season, as well as the Spanish Cup and Super Cup, and also reached the Women's Champions League final. (The Guardian) 2022 San Diego Open – Women's singles World number 1 Iga Świątek wins the WTA 500 title in San Diego, her 8th title this year, beating Donna Vekić 2–1 (6–3, 3–6, 6–0) in the San Diego Open final. (Tennis.com) Wasps RFC enter administration with all players and staff being designated as redundant and the team being formally relegated from the Premiership. (The Guardian)

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(Posted) RD: Michael Ponti

Article: Michael Ponti (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): FAZ - Gramophone
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Virtuoso pianist who made the first recordings of some 50 unknown Romantic piano concertos, - article was there but shortish. There could still be more. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:13, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support. Article is in good shape with no significant gaps in coverage obvious. Thryduulf (talk) 11:20, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support, Article is fine, Alex-h (talk) 16:52, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 03:16, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Younoussi Touré

Article: Younoussi Touré (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Benin Web
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Malian prime minister. I've added a ref for previously uncited info - Dumelow (talk) 10:54, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support. Former PMs are notable and article looks notable.VR _talk 16:10, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 22:33, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Carmen Callil

Article: Carmen Callil (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian; The Daily Telegraph; The Times
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 20:41, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Australian publisher, founded Virago Press, died of leukemia. InedibleHulk (talk) 07:00, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 12:37, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Booker prize

Articles: Shehan Karunatilaka (talk · history · tag) and The Seven Moons of Maali Almeida (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Sri Lankan Shehan Karunatilaka wins the Booker Prize for The Seven Moons of Maali Almeida. (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

Article updated
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: The book article is fine, but Shehan's needs a lot of sourcing work Masem (t) 12:40, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose Do we typically only bold the book?[11] In The Seven Moons of Maali Almeida, would be good to have an extra sentence or two on why it won, and not just a direct quote from "judges" before the prize was awarded. On a minor point, page suffers from WP:CITEKILL, esp. the lead.—Bagumba (talk) 13:05, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

  Given that for the International Booker prize, per itnr, we are to bold the work, the author, and the translator, I'd think for the regular booker we'd want the author and work. Masem (t) 15:27, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Oppose for now I think the author's article needs to be beefed up a bit more. Also, correct the spelling to "Sri Lankan" in the blurb e.b. (talk) 14:12, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Oppose for now - No need to state what others stated above.BabbaQ (talk) 14:22, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Roberto Rojas

Article: Roberto Rojas (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Página Siete
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Krisgabwoosh (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Krisgabwoosh (talk) 10:55, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support - Referenced and looks ready.--BabbaQ (talk) 13:50, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Support looks good. thoroughly cited, well organized article. e.b. (talk) 14:16, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support per above. --Bedivere (talk) 15:37, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support, Article is good. Alex-h (talk) 15:54, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 02:32, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) Ulf Kristersson becomes PM

Articles: Ulf Kristersson (talk · history · tag) and Tidö Agreement (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Ulf Kristersson (pictured) is elected Prime Minister of Sweden, heading a government backed by the far right. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Ulf Kristersson (pictured) is elected Prime Minister of Sweden, heading a government of the centre-right bloc.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Ulf Kristersson (pictured) is elected Prime Minister of Sweden after the Tidö Agreement to form a government is passed in the Riksdag.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Ulf Kristersson (pictured) is elected Prime Minister of Sweden.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ Ulf Kristersson (pictured) is elected Prime Minister of Sweden by a coalition of three political parties.
News source(s): BBC, POLITICO, AP, Guardian, DW
Credits:

• Nominated by Sandstein (talk · give credit)

Article updated
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Change in head of government of Sweden, per WP:ITNR. The far-right aspect mentioned in the blurb is what most major media focus on in reporting his election.  Sandstein 21:03, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support - New Prime minister. Article is updated. The far right aspect is also interesting.BabbaQ (talk) 23:13, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality This news item is about the head of government being chosen and about the new government being formed as much as the person. However the Tidö Agreement has large parts uncited, is in an awkward format, and there is an ongoing merger proposal. The Ulf Kristersson only very briefly mentions him becoming prime minister, and given the seniority of the role I would expect much more especially as to how he came to be chosen. Article also very short and lacking detail about his political beliefs. Also "Leader of the Moderate Party" surely still counts as part of his biography; which is very much slanted towards party political career. He has also published numerous books and this part of his life is completely missing. Key elements of his businessman career are also missing. Abcmaxx (talk) 23:37, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Agreed. Also far right is bias and wrong. See the agreement Page and voting areas. Economically Left (except maybe competitive corporate tax) and urban blue as opposed to globally rural right/conservative. 37.252.80.175 (talk) 00:01, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

To avoid any bias in WP's reporting, it should be said that the new PM is leading a "centre-right bloc". --Masem (t) 02:17, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

@Stephen: Please do not edit blurbs to which others have responded; I've undone this because it violates WP:TPO. If needed you can propose an alternate blurb (I have no real preference one way or the other). Note that Tidö Agreement is not the nominated article. Sandstein 07:58, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

The Tidö Agreement is very much central to new PM bring chosen, as is the creation of the Kristersson Cabinet. And SD is very much a far-right party, just the other day they had to discipline their own MP for publicly making insulting comments about Anne Frank. It is one of the few major parties still in existence that was openly neo-nazi. We should not be diluting their position just because they are part of a new government. Even as a coalition there is not much "centre" about it, they are pretty deeply entrenched on that wing in many aspects, even if you discount the SD. Abcmaxx (talk) 08:33, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

@Sandstein:, you may not have noticed but this isn’t a talk page. You don’t own the blurb, it’s the encyclopaedia that anyone can edit. Two editors have opined that the bloc is not far right, nor is that term used in the article. Stephen 09:20, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

@StephenThis is a talk page in the sense that we are talking on it. And a basic tenet of Wikipedia etiquette is to not alter proposals that others have replied to because it makes it impossible to determine what, if any, proposal has consensus. Please add an alternate blurb if you wish to propose one. Sandstein 10:24, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

• I would very much want to wait for the Kristersson Cabinet article to be further expanded and improved. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 08:43, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment while the Sweden Democrats are widely agreed to be such a party, the blurb calling this a "government backed by the far right" WITHOUT naming any of the three centre-right parties IN the government is undue and borders on clickbait Unknown Temptation (talk) 10:29, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Disagree, if anything not mentioning it would be biased. The SD is the biggest of the four, and without their backing they would not be in power. It's the first time anyone agreed to work with such an extremist party in Sweden. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:56, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

They are not extremist Haris920 (talk) 06:45, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Support alternative blurb - New government of a major power in Northern Europe. I would prefer the alt blurb as it is more neutral. The Tidö Agreement page could use a little expansion though. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 12:36, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose "centre-right" label per previous comments. They are a right-wing coalition. Abcmaxx (talk) 13:00, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support alternative blurb Per PrecariousWorlds. Twistedaxe (talk) 13:12, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support and proposed AltIII given that the election is the big story here and it serves to avoid any debate over who did or didn't support him (point being is he's the PM and that's the major impact here). DarkSide830 (talk) 13:35, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support – Looks adequate, more than 1,500 words. However, the "center-right" label does seem somewhat dubious, and Tidö Agreement means nothing to most readers of English Wiki. Hence, favor Alt4. – Sca (talk) 13:47, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support Alt II The coalition is a complex deal between several parties and so trying to pin an exact L-R label on it is too controversial and synthetic. The Alt II blurb is best because it highlights the article which has the details of the 60+ page Tidö Agreement. It's ITN's purpose to help readers find such non-obvious article titles; not to engage in political POV. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:59, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
• I appreciate Masem's steadfast and consistent commitment to WP:NPOV and objectivity throughout Wikipedia. That said, I have to support either Alt 2 or Alt 4. Just avoid the political bent altogether. We can see the politics aspectr for ourselves just by reading the article; hell, anyone can surmise it just from reading the news for the last 2 years.--🌈WaltCip-(talk) 17:00, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment – What's the holdup? – Sca (talk) 19:33, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

  Limited number of admins here. Curbon7 (talk) 21:17, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 20:45, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Nigerian flooding

Article: 2022 Nigeria floods (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Floods kill hundreds in Nigeria. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Floods in Nigeria result in more than 600 deaths and the displacement of more than a million people.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The rising death toll of floods in Nigeria, which has displaced more than a million people in recent months, exceeds 600.
News source(s): BBC; CNN, AlJazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
• Created by Quake1234 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Gobonobo (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: There's lots of flooding around the world including Chad; Crete; Philippines;Pakistan; &c. The latest Nigerian floods seem to be the worst with hundreds of deaths which seems to dwarf the flash flood in Venezuela which we are currently blurbing. As cyclones and flooding are so common, I reckon we need an ongoing entry of some sort like a link to Weather of 2022... Andrew🐉(talk) 10:01, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

• Article is not quite up to par for ITN, but I will certainly support this when it is. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 11:42, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose Multiple different flooding events over a year, the latest being stale. The individual ones should have been posted if they had significant numbers. The 1,300-some number in the infobox is not supported by the text as well. Masem (t) 12:12, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

  Deaths are ongoing, so I'm not sure what date you are using to call this stale. The oldest blurb in the box is 12 days old; hundreds have died in that time. Article quality makes this nomination a non-starter, though. GreatCaesarsGhost 14:36, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

  Both BBC and CNN give over 600 deaths but that is over several months of flooding, not a single event. Flooding happens annually, this year's there being the worst, but there's also similar tolls in other regions like India, China, and where they annually see high death numbers from that. Masem (t) 23:20, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

  Gotcha; I had not read the linked articles. I've been tracking this with family and friends there, and the very recent active flooding is like nothing they've ever seen. But the reporting even by the best local RSs is about as scattershot as this article [12]. GreatCaesarsGhost 11:46, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality Not much more than a stub at the moment. The Kip (talk) 18:14, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose Article is a string of single sentences about death statistics in a few random Nigerian localities. If you want this posted, expand the article into a proper encyclopedia article on the topic. --Jayron32 18:16, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support in principle but the article is not where it needs to be to go on the front page This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 18:22, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose Nothing more than a stub. Far too little informaton provided in the article at the moment. Expand it further and I'll support. Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 15:24, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment – Seems a blurb-worthy topic. AlJazeera, BBC say 600+ fatalities, 1.3 million "displaced." – Sca (talk) 13:10, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

  But still a mini-stub. -- Sca (talk) 19:35, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

• Please expand the prose (only 997 characters now). --PFHLai (talk) 04:57, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment - Getting stale, and still only 155 words of text. Ain't gonna fly. – Sca (talk) 13:50, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment: Made a pass at fleshing out the article. Should be closer to meeting quality standards now. gobonobo ^{+ c} 14:00, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the expansion to 700+ words of prose. --PFHLai (talk) 14:30, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
  • @Maplestrip, Masem, GreatCaesarsGhost, The Kip, Jayron32, Dora the Axe-plorer, Orbitalbuzzsaw, and Sca: Time for a re-review, please. --PFHLai (talk) 14:56, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
    • I am still concerned that there is no real singular event, just that the rest of the world took notice, and the blurb needs to better reflect that. 600 people didn't die recently and suddenly, but over the last several months. --Masem (t) 15:31, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
      • The flooding has been ongoing since at least August, but saw a surge in September following the release of water from the Lagdo Dam. It seems that global news organizations took notice about a week ago. Another, not-so-singular, yet ongoing event is that 1.4 million people have been displaced from their homes. Would this be more appropriate as ongoing? Floods are expected to continue through November. gobonobo ^{+ c} 15:45, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
        • Better, but still a bit thin for such a big disaster. I'm neutral on posting this version. -- Sca (talk) 18:30, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

          A more succinct version of Alt2 needed. -- Sca (talk) 18:34, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support ongoing or blurb. Article is looking quite nice. Still a bit short for such a major event, but I would be happy to see this on ITN. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 12:07, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

October 16

Portal:Current events/2022 October 16

October 16, 2022 (2022-10-16) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russo-Ukrainian War 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine Battle of Donbas Donetsk People's Republic authorities say that a Ukrainian rocket attack hit the office of the pro-Russian mayor of Donetsk. No casualties have been reported. (AP) 2022 Haitian crisis The United States and Canada send military equipment to Haiti, including tactical and armoured vehicles, as violence and shortages continue to worsen in the country. (Al Jazeera) The U.S. drafts a resolution at the United Nations Security Council to approve the deployment of a "multinational rapid action force" to Haiti, citing ongoing "instability and violence" in the country. (The Washington Post) Disasters and accidents At least seven people are injured in a suspected gas explosion at a Japanese restaurant in Tarragona, Spain. (Reuters) Law and crime Personal and business legal affairs of Donald Trump Whistleblower Will Wilkerson, a co-founder of Trump Media & Technology Group, alleges that the firm violated federal securities laws and that Donald Trump pressured executives to give shares to his wife Melania. (The Guardian) Killing of David Byrne The trial of Gerry "The Monk" Hutch, a prominent crime boss, in relation to the Hutch–Kinahan feud, begins in Dublin, Ireland. (The Guardian) Politics and elections The right-wing Swedish Democrats suspend Rebecka Fallenkvist for insulting comments about Anne Frank. (The Guardian) Sports 2022 ICC Men's T20 World Cup Namibia cause a historic upset by defeating former champions Sri Lanka by 55 runs in the opening game of the T20 World Cup in Australia. (AP) 2022 K League 1 Ulsan Horangi wins the K-League title for the third time. It is the team's first title since 2005. (AP) Devin Haney vs. George Kambosos Jr II Devin Haney beats George Kambosos Jr. via a 12-round unanimous decision to retain the WBA (Super), WBC, IBF, WBO, and The Ring lightweight titles. (AP)

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(Posted) RD: Rollie Seltz

Article: Rollie Seltz (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): St. Paul Pioneer Press (Legacy.com)
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: First reported today (October 16); died on October 13. —Bloom6132 (talk) 04:38, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support. Comprehensive and well referenced. Thryduulf (talk) 11:19, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support. Article is of sufficient quality for ITN. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:17, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 02:56, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

2022 French protests

Article: 2022 French protests (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Mhhossein (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: The protests following the oil and energy walkouts seem to become intense over the past days. Mhhossein ^talk 12:05, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose compared to the level of violence and deaths in the Iranian protests, this is a calm revolt, though has potential to be significant. --Masem (t) 12:11, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Since no foreign hands are trying to shape the demonstrations and no one tries to 10000 X the incidents by conducting 'influence operations'.[13][14]. --Mhhossein ^talk 12:22, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

uh? _-_Alsor (talk) 16:07, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose protests with no foreseeable significance. Another one farther from the ones that have been included in Main Page. _-_Alsor (talk) 16:08, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment: Still more protests are occurring and/or scheduled across the Europe. Maybe we go with the broader article. --Mhhossein ^talk 11:56, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Josef Somr

Article: Josef Somr (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Radio Prague; Brno Daily (Czech News Agency)
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 10:21, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Support - Referenced. Looks good and ready.BabbaQ (talk) 14:26, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 22:27, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Lodewijk van den Berg

Article: Lodewijk van den Berg (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NOS (Dutch)
Credits:

• Nominated by Indefensible (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Dutch-American astronaut, chemical engineer. - Indefensible (talk) 00:12, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support – article is well-referenced and meets minimum depth of coverage for ITN. —Bloom6132 (talk) 01:33, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support – ditto. The article is in good shape. Hektor (talk) 07:16, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support - referenced and ready.BabbaQ (talk) 07:44, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted. Thryduulf (talk) 11:07, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Benjamin Civiletti

Article: Benjamin Civiletti (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: U.S. Attorney General under Jimmy Carter – Muboshgu (talk) 17:42, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support – article is well-referenced and meets minimum depth of coverage for ITN. —Bloom6132 (talk) 18:08, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted. Anarchyte (talk) 13:02, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

RD: Dilip Mahalanabis

Article: Dilip Mahalanabis (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Indian Express]
Credits:

• Nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)
• Updated by To be updated. (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian medical doctor. Article is yellow-tagged and needs some work before it can be ready for homepage. I am currently out on some off-wiki work. Will update on my return. If someone else has some time -- please feel free to get to it before me. Ktin (talk) 15:53, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose Article is orange-tagged for citations. FAdesdae378 (talk · contribs) 02:05, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
• Orange tag not yet resolved. Thryduulf (talk) 18:19, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Satya Mohan Joshi

Article: Satya Mohan Joshi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Kathmandu Post
Credits:

• Nominated by बडा काजी (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Known for his research on the history and culture of Nepal बडा काजी (talk) 13:17, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose one citation needed in the biography (I've just tagged it) and the entire notable works section is unreferenced. Thryduulf (talk) 14:41, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

@Thryduulf:, please take a look. I have added references to cite the biography and notable works section. Thanks--Biplab Anand (Talk) 01:44, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

@Biplab Anand: All works listed in notable works should have a ref or ISBN. Spencer^T•C 03:21, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

@Spencer: done now.--Biplab Anand (Talk) 04:00, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 22:25, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Manoj Singh Mandavi

Article: Manoj Singh Mandavi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hindu
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian politician. I've added his death to the article - Dumelow (talk) 08:09, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support reasonably comprehensive and well referenced. Thryduulf (talk) 09:12, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 00:32, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

(Closed) 20th National Congress of the Chinese Communist Party

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: 20th National Congress of the Chinese Communist Party (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP, CNN, FT, BBC, Reuters, AlJazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by Indefensible (talk · give credit)
• Created by Ka Kit Pang (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Major Chinese political event started today. - Indefensible (talk) 06:56, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Support - Major political event in one of the biggest global powers. This congress in particular may be one of the most consequential in Chinese history. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 11:44, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

• Question - Is there any precedent on this matter? Did we, for example, post the last congress? Or was it nominated and rejected, or not nominated at all? Quantum XYZ (talk) 12:01, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Yes, we posted the results of the 2017 congress (here). Alexcalamaro (talk) 12:10, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
    • In that case my !vote would be weak support. I won't usually support an ongoing nomination, only preferring to blurb the results, but this one is more notable per PrecariousWorlds. Quantum XYZ (talk) 12:20, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

  "No significant changes to the political or economic system are expected," says AP. -- Sca (talk) 14:08, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

• Comment – Since China is a single-party autocracy run by Xi Jinping, it seems unlikely that news of general significance will emerge from this pre-planned proceeding. – Sca (talk) 12:24, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
• Based on the last time we posted this, it was due to a leadership change after the Congress was in session. So we can wait for any actual events, and oppose the ongoing. --Masem (t) 14:14, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose per Sca. DarkSide830 (talk) 16:50, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose If there's news, nominate it as a blurb. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:54, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose good faith nom, per Sca. It's Stalinist theater. If something significant actually comes from it, that can be handled as an ordinary nom. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:54, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose posting as ongoing per Sca, but if something significant will be decided on the congress, it can be posted as blurb. Guess I've lost a lot of social rating points now~ a!rado (C✙T) 18:18, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose posting as ongoing, as it is just a meeting, but support posting any significant outcomes as their own headline. For my part, this would include the renewal of Xi's premiership for a third term, as he would be the first Chinese Communist leader since Mao to receive a third term. GenevieveDEon (talk) 22:16, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

(Closed) RD: Muhammad Uzair Shams

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Muhammad Uzair Shams (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [15] [16] [17]
Credits:

• Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Ainty Painty (talk) 04:11, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose Article appears to have severe notability problems (it was just created today), as it is only sourced to a bio on a publishers' website it appears. --Masem (t) 04:17, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose. I agree with Masem, and have orange tagged it as needing independent sources. Thryduulf (talk) 09:18, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

• Post-closure comment the article has been moved to Draft space (here). Alexcalamaro (talk) 17:42, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

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