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*'''Support''' Good enough, has been expanded well. --[[User:Rsrikanth05|Rsrikanth05]] ([[User talk:Rsrikanth05|talk]]) 07:21, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Good enough, has been expanded well. --[[User:Rsrikanth05|Rsrikanth05]] ([[User talk:Rsrikanth05|talk]]) 07:21, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
*'''Support altblurb''' per all above. '''[[:User: The Bestagon|<span style="color: green; text-decoration: inherit;"><sup>The</sup></span>]]<span style="color:#ff4000">⬡</span>[[:User talk: The Bestagon|<span style="color: green; text-decoration: inherit;"><sub>Bestagon</sub></span>]]''' 08:12, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
*'''Support altblurb''' per all above. '''[[:User: The Bestagon|<span style="color: green; text-decoration: inherit;"><sup>The</sup></span>]]<span style="color:#ff4000">⬡</span>[[:User talk: The Bestagon|<span style="color: green; text-decoration: inherit;"><sub>Bestagon</sub></span>]]''' 08:12, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
*'''Support''' article has many references and contains all critical information. [[User:Rentzepopoulos|Rentzepopoulos]] ([[User talk:Rentzepopoulos|talk]]) 08:18, 1 March 2023 (UTC)


==== RD: Ricou Browning ====
==== RD: Ricou Browning ====

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March 1

March 1, 2023 (2023-03-01) (Wednesday)

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

  • Disappearance of Constance Marten and Mark Gordon
    • Constance Marten and Mark Gordon's baby's remains are found hidden in a shed two days after the couple were found and arrested. The couple are charged with gross negligence manslaughter. It is believed the baby was dead for some time before it was found. (BBC News)

Politics and elections

Science and technology

2023 Nigeria presidential election

Article: 2023 Nigerian presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Bola Tinubu, of the ruling All Progressives Congress, is elected President of Nigeria. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Bola Tinubu, of the ruling All Progressives Congress, is declared President-elect of Nigeria in an election disputed by opposition parties.
News source(s): [1] [2] [3] [4]
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Nominator's comments: Election of a head of state/government is almost always blurbed, let alone in one of the most populous countries in the world --Estar8806 (talk) 03:40, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wait The race hasn't formally been called, and considering both major opposition parties are calling for a rerun due to irregularities, it may be a little while before this is sorted out. The Kip (talk) 05:07, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @The Kip How exactly do you figure it hasn't been called yet? Almost every major news organization has already called the election. This article [5] from CNN even mentions that the source of the reports is the chair of Nigeria's electoral commission. Estar8806 (talk) 05:10, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    My bad, the BBC News piece I'd read used the phrasing "taken a commanding lead" vs elected. I'll strike that part, but I still advocate waiting. The Kip (talk) 05:12, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @The Kip It was a very recent development, so I'm unsurprised that articles from earlier might say commanding lead rather than declared victory. Estar8806 (talk) 05:13, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    A rerun is very unlikely to happen, due to APC control of all branches of the gvmt. Also, as sad as it is to say, I would be shocked if an election in Nigeria didn't have irregularities at this point, considering the country is coming apart at the seams. Curbon7 (talk) 05:18, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support - no one gets this technical when news outlets calls an election for a candidate in the U.S, despite the fact that the electoral votes aren't certified by the states and Congress until December and January respectively. The ageless man is now P-elect of Nigeria. Crusader1096 (message) 06:28, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be less concerned if it was solely the PDP or LP calling for a revote, but that the opposition as a whole is calling for one is what's giving me pause. The Kip (talk) 06:43, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Results are final and article is comprehensive. -- Jiaminglimjm (talk) 07:11, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

February 28

February 28, 2023 (2023-02-28) (Tuesday)

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2023 Thessaly train collision

Article: 2023 Thessaly train collision (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 32 dead after a train crash in Thessaly, Greece. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A train crash in Thessaly, Greece, kills at least 32 people.
News source(s): https://bnonews.com/index.php/2023/02/2-trains-collide-in-northern-greece-29-dead/
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Nominator's comments: Seems to be a deadly enough train crash to post on ITN. according to BNO, this is Greece's deadliest train crash since 1968. Onegreatjoke (talk) 02:28, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Death toll has risen from 29 to 32 so I've updated the blurb accordingly. Onegreatjoke (talk) 04:49, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support - expanded, I've seen articles linked on the main page that were shorter. Crusader1096 (message) 06:30, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Ricou Browning

Article: Ricou Browning (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Bloody Disgusting, The Hollywood Reporter
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American film director, screenwriter, underwater cinematographer, and stuntman. Best known for playing the Gill-man in the underwater scenes in Creature from the Black Lagoon, as well as for co-creating Flipper. He was considered the last surviving Universal Monster actor for some time. —Matthew  / (talk) 21:17, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Irving Wardle

Article: Irving Wardle (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: British theatre critic. Died on the 23rd, does not seem to have been reported anywhere until today. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 20:46, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Erythritol use linked to blood clotting, stroke, heart attack and death

Consensus to post is unlikely to develop.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 14:30, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Erythritol (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Consumption of erythritol, a widely used zero-calorie sweetener, causes hyper activation of blood platelets, increasing the risk of heart attacks and strokes (Post)
News source(s): CNN
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Article updated
 Count Iblis (talk) 13:10, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I am 99% sure that at least once a week, if not more frequent, there is news of a consumer-available product that reports on its bad effects. This is but just one of them. Tell us when dihydrogen monoxide is determined to be fatally toxic and that might be something. --Masem (t) 13:17, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    New Study finds sustained oxygen breathing for 90 years on average correlates to death PrecariousWorlds (talk) 13:46, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose this is not ITN-worthy, for that this is not news, also, some report comes out like this basically every week. Editor 5426387 (talk) 13:19, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Interesting, sure, but not significant or unique enough for ITN. Courcelles (talk) 13:43, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Good faith nom, but oppose per @Masem PrecariousWorlds (talk) 13:47, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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February 27

February 27, 2023 (2023-02-27) (Monday)

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RD: Maon Kurosaki

Article: Maon Kurosaki (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [6], [7]
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Japanese singer who mostly performed for anime series. Died on February 16 but death was only announced today (February 28). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:39, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Albie Pearson

Article: Albie Pearson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [8]
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Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Death announced on Feb 27 – Muboshgu (talk) 05:25, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Li Yining

Article: Li Yining (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): China Daily
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Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Chinese economist. - Indefensible (talk) 18:25, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) EU / UK trade deal for NI

Consensus to post will not develop at this time. I suggest considering renominating the item if and when this agreement is ratified. Sandstein 19:19, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Articles: Windsor Framework (talk · history · tag) and Northern Ireland Protocol (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A new framework is agreed for the Northern Ireland Protocol between the EU and UK. (Post)
News source(s): NYT; BBC; Euronews
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Article updated
Nominator's comments: Lots of meetings and announcements by Rishi Sunak, King Charles, Ursula von der Leyen and so on. The details and articles may need more work but it seems that it's a done deal. As the location and title of the relevant articles is not obvious, ITN can assist navigation. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:45, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support - In The News, with plenty of coverage. Major deal on the future of two great powers. Unique story as well, to diversify our range. Looks good. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 18:13, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose solely due to the fact that it ain't in stone yet. Crusader1096 (message) 01:15, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support on Merit, Oppose on quality an event like this would be important, because this is a deal that resolved many tension between the U.K and the E.U, but the quality of the article is poor, and this is not yet official yet, so also Wait. Editor 5426387 (talk) 13:21, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait News coverage is showing that this is a significant enough story to expect it on ITN, but I agree that the ratification of the agreement is the best time to post. It will also give the article more time to develop. --Jayron32 13:49, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait Significant for Brexit, the kinks of the agreement finally being worked out, but probably should be ratified before going on ITN, as said by many before. TheBlueSkyClub (talk) 16:17, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support in principle. This is essentially undoing the effects of Brexit on trade with Northern Ireland. There's plenty of media coverage, in multiple nations. The article is quite bare bones - it meets our minimum requirements but I would like to see more on the background and content of the agreement. It also doesn't mention the other issues that have been held up by this, such as membership of Horizon Europe. I'm happy with either posting now or waiting until it has been approved by parliament - it's seems highly unlikely to be rejected, given that both Tory and Labour parties will be whipping to support it (Stormont has suspended itself, so doesn't get a say). But perhaps that time could be spent on improving the article. Modest Genius talk 17:14, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) Re-Add the Mahsa Amini protests to the ongoing section

WP:NAC - consensus is clearly against posting this in the Ongoing section again. Modest Genius talk 18:09, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Mahsa Amini protests (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
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Nominator's comments: As I saw on the Wikipedia article, it seems to still be going on, so the article is contradicting the main page. I'm not sure if this is on purpose so I'm just pointing it out. Palmtreegames
  • Oppose. There hasn't been updates since the first days of February. Even though it is ongoing, there has not been signficant updates to the protests for the past few days, or weeks. Tails Wx 16:13, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. There has only been one prominent protest in the last 40 days. If a 'second wave' of protest happens, we can consider putting this back up, but right now it appears the movement has been mostly surpressed by Iran. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 16:16, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Giving a quick read through the article, it's still not good enough to go on. At the moment, the last update on new events relating to the protests came in late January, and the month of February is mentioned only once in the article, right at the beginning, with no updates on what has happened in February. It was originally taken off because of a lack of recent updates, and that's still something that affects the article right now, sadly. TheBlueSkyClub (talk) 16:15, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose No recent substantial updates to the article. The Kip (talk) 19:06, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

(Posted) RD: Betty Boothroyd

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Article: Betty Boothroyd (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Sky News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: First female Speaker of the House of Commons.  The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 12:33, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support seems like a proper RD candidate, basically, per below. Editor 5426387 (talk) 13:51, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support Can't see any super obvious reason to say something against it. Seems like a some easy RD candidate, hopefully. TheCorriynial (talk) 13:03, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Seven days and counting. It's a landslide!
  • Your insinuations that other people are misogynistic because they don't follow your orders are inappropriate, and your daily and continuous drumbeat of casting aspersions against all people who do not think identically to you is growing wearisome to the point of being disruptive to the proper running of this board. This kind of poisoning the well needs to stop. Not everyone who disagrees with you is doing so because they are bigots, as you seem to be implying here. --Jayron32 14:19, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD, oppose Blurb. Per Alsor. As for Andrew's comment on 'snubbing successful women', in case of Jacinda and Nicola, both were resigning. As far as I can remember, we didn't run a blurb when BoJo stepped down, but we did run one when Truss took office. A PM (or lower post in Sturgeon's case) resigning is news, but not ITN worthy, successor taking office is (for PM, not a lower post). --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 14:53, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD. Oppose picture and blurb. Article quality is good enough for RD but she wasn't transformative enough for a blurb. For reasons repeatedly explained to Andrew, photo RDs are not and should not be a thing (and gender is irrelevant to all of this). Awkward42 (talk) [the alternate account of Thryduulf (talk)] 15:14, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD Definitely up there, pioneering woman in the political field of the UK. (I'll never forget the time she kicked William Ulsterman out of the Commons for his getting haughty over cheddar cheese and pineapple on a stick being unavailable.)--SinoDevonian (talk) 15:19, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Not opposed to images for RD entirely, but I think the precedent has moved away from that (can someone please remind me the last time it happened). I would not have been opposed to a blurb either, but we haven't blurbed speakers and moving away from that opens a new floodgate that should be best avoided. Gotitbro (talk) 15:35, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Gotitbro A photo RD has happened a couple of times, but always boldly and usually (if not always) removed fairly quickly. Discussions on the talk page about photos with RD have never reached a favourable consensus. Thryduulf (talk) 19:39, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted RD. -- KTC (talk) 15:59, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) New intelligence on COVID-19 cause

Clear consensus not to post. --Tone 15:34, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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The Wuhan Institute of Virology near the site of the first outbreak
Article: COVID-19 lab leak theory (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The United States Department of Energy uses new intelligence to conclude that the COVID-19 pandemic was likely caused by a laboratory leak. (Post)
News source(s): NYT; Al Jazeera; South China Morning Post; Guardian.
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: This topic has always been a peculiar mix of blame game, politics and science but it's interesting that the story is still making headlines and that different US agencies have their own separate official positions. The late Paul Berg warned of the importance of such science so it's disturbing that it's taking so long to settle it. -Andrew🐉(talk) 09:10, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reluctant oppose. Several issues with this: 1) as per sources, the report was made with "low confidence 2) per Guardian, the "updated findings run counter to reports by four other US intelligence agencies that concluded the epidemic started as the result of natural transmission from an infected animal" and "there are a “variety of views” within US intelligence agencies on the issue". 3) it's unclear why Department of Energy handles this rather than, for example, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention or other relevant body. Brandmeistertalk 09:52, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I don't see how this is news worthy. It won't result in any policy change and its not the official position of the US government. I know this story is technically "in the news" but that has never been the criteria here. Aure entuluva (talk) 10:50, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Ascertaining the exact cause of the COVID-19 pandemic is a matter of science, not intelligence, so let's wait until a paper with more details on the transmission gets published in a reputable peer-reviewed journal. At this point, the intelligence report merely points out to something that was possible from the beginning with no further details.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:21, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Others have made good points, but this is a major development in a gigantic story. If it turns out that COVID-19, a virus that has killed millions, destabilised the fabric of 21st century society, and caused one of the largest economic crises in recent memory, was produced in a lab, that is HUGE news. I know it hasn't been confirmed, but major components of the United States government accusing a foreign adversary of creating this virus is definitely notable, especially with high tensions over Taiwan and the balloons. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 11:36, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Allegations of a "lab leak" and "created in a lab/created by the PRC" are entirely different things, even if this report was 100% accurate and trustworthy, it is most definitely not saying that COVID was "produced in a lab". Courcelles (talk) 15:33, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Something with "low confidence" (quote from the article) and which "White House National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan responded to the report saying there was still "no definitive answer" to the pandemic origins' question." seems like the blurb makes this out to be more significant than the actual information seems to do. --Jayron32 11:55, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Opposite Jesus Christ, no way. Let's not feed conspiracy theories with documents that are very no definitive. _-_Alsor (talk) 12:08, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose "low confidence"... this doesn't seem definitive at all. MarioJump83 (talk) 13:16, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strongest possible oppose I warned the lab leak talk page about this report, which only is saying that the DOE believes the COVID to be from the lab, but this does not represent the full US Gov't stance on it. As such, it should not be considered anywhere close to news. --Masem (t) 13:17, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose There is no way this is serious, This is Wikipedia, not Conspiracy-pedia, and they aren't even sure of it! they even admitted it theselves - Low Confidence! This is also not ITN-Worthy because it has not been confirmed. Editor 5426387 (talk) 13:49, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Chester Borrows

Article: Chester Borrows (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New Zealand Herald
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: New Zealand politician. - Indefensible (talk) 07:36, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

February 26

February 26, 2023 (2023-02-26) (Sunday)

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RD: Gleb Pavlovsky

Article: Gleb Pavlovsky (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Thriley (talk) 06:41, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Italy migrant boat disaster

Article: 2023 Calabria migrant boat disaster (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 59 migrants are killed in a shipwreck off the coast of Calabria in Italy. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

  — Amakuru (talk) 13:34, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - Tragedy, but death toll does not automatically warrant notability. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 16:59, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above Editor 5426387 (talk) 01:14, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

February 25

February 25, 2023 (2023-02-25) (Saturday)

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RD: Victor Babiuc

Article: Victor Babiuc (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Digi24 (Romanian)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Romanian politician. - Indefensible (talk) 18:40, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: François Engongah Owono

Article: François Engongah Owono (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Gabon Mail Infos (French)
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: Gabonese politician. - Indefensible (talk) 18:31, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

73rd Berlin International Film Festival

Article: 73rd Berlin International Film Festival (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ On the Adamant wins the Golden Bear at the 73rd Berlin International Film Festival. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ On the Adamant wins the Golden Bear at the the Berlin International Film Festival.
News source(s): https://variety.com/2023/film/festivals/berlin-film-festival-awards-updating-live-kristen-stewart-1235535656/
Credits:

Article updated
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 BorgQueen (talk) 04:52, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Gordon Pinsent

Article: Gordon Pinsent (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/gorden-pinsent-1.6760868
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Canadian actor, writer, director and singer, Order of Canada. Needs more citations. Flibirigit (talk) 13:11, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Mihai Șora

Article: Mihai Șora (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Știrile Pro TV (Romanian)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Romanian philosopher. - Indefensible (talk) 05:42, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Ali Yafie

Article: Ali Yafie (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.beritasatu.com/nasional/1029702/kh-ali-yafie-berpulang
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indonesian Sunni Muslim scholar. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 21:13, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

February 24

February 24, 2023 (2023-02-24) (Friday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

Politics and elections

RD: Edith Roger

Article: Edith Roger (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): danseinfo.no
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Norwegian dancer, choreographer and stage director. Turned 100 in 2022. Several honorary awards. Oceanh (talk) 15:39, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Víctor Gómez Bergés

Article: Víctor Gómez Bergés (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Hoy (Spanish)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Dominican politician. - Indefensible (talk) 18:44, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Not yet ready Quite short; this reads more like a resume listing offices he's held than an encyclopedia article. Just a few sentences explaining things he may have done in these offices (particularly in parliament and as minister of FA) would be sufficient to making this holistic. The article is also pretty underlinked. Curbon7 (talk) 00:36, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Walter Mirisch

Article: Walter Mirisch (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Business Standard
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: American film producer. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 06:21, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Felipe González González

Article: Felipe González González (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Proceso (Spanish)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Mexican politician. - Indefensible (talk) 05:46, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: James Abourezk

Article: James Abourezk (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Yankton Daily
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former US Senator. Curbon7 (talk) 03:53, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Bernard Ingham

Article: Bernard Ingham (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article ok, but lead needs a bit more, and a few citations are also needed. SchroCat (talk) 23:02, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Needs work Lots of work. I just read the article, comparing it with the BBC and Guardian obituaries. It seems too recentist, giving undue weight to matters like the petty dispute with the neighbour and the Hillsborough matter while giving no attention to more significant issues in his career like the Falklands War. Andrew🐉(talk) 23:40, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

February 23

February 23, 2023 (2023-02-23) (Thursday)

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Science and technology

(Posted) RD: Roger Bonk

Article: Roger Bonk (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Fresno Bee
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Died on February 13, appears to have been first reported on February 23. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:40, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: John Olver

Article: John Olver (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Boston Herald, CBS, Telegram, Washington Times
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American politician, rated Good Article. - Indefensible (talk) 06:18, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) 2023 Wamena riot

Closed, consensus to post not likely to form. Juxlos (talk) 11:05, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article: 2023 Wamena riot (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A riot in Wamena, Indonesia, kills around 10 people. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Twelve people are killed in a riot in Wamena, Indonesia.
News source(s): [10]
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Admittedly this happened in the most riot-prone region in the country, but large-scale with large numbers of deaths are a bit uncommon. Information a bit limited due to remoteness of the region and limited international access. "Around 10" due to fatality reports varying between 9, 10, or 11. Figured will give ITN a shot, with just 1 new hook in the last week or so. Juxlos (talk) 10:50, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose My personal feelings aside, I don't think riots in Wamena should be blurbed for the ITN as the riots aren't significant in the wider scale of things. If the riots starting to continue further it will be put as an ongoing, but as it stands, it's unlikely. MarioJump83 (talk) 11:34, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The most bloodshed in the Papua conflict in years. 10 civilians were killed, including 7 or 8 by their own government. That meets the merit of significance, in my view. Blurb needs work, though. Curbon7 (talk) 13:34, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per Curbon7. Long-term significance is not required for posting items to ITN, if we can demonstrate there is adequate short-term significance. I feel this counts as such due to the unusually high numbers of deaths. --⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 14:52, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I mean, we do have NOTNEWS and NEVENT that says we should not be covering topics that get only bursts of coverage in the news and no clear enduring/long-term coverage. It is not immediately clear if this will have that long tail, or if its part of a larger news topic (I don't see an obvious one here immediately, but discussing this riot in that context rather than a standalone would still make it a possible ITN event.) This idea would readily expand to how we usually treat US gun shootings or routine natural disasters in various parts of the world, for example. However, this is probably a discussion for WT:ITN, not in this blurb. Masem (t) 16:13, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Masem, I'm just going based off of what our current consensus seems to favor. And my understanding is that natural or man-made disasters that have a sufficient death toll usually get through without a problem, but then you have edge cases like this one where people ask "where's the long-term significance?" Not to be morbid, but if you compared such an event to elections or declarations of war, it's doubtful that a landslide has any claim at long-term significance whether it kills 1, 10, 100, or 500 people, so it's a bit ticky-tack to apply that evidently nebulous standard to one story and to not apply it to another.
    As far as WP:NOTNEWS goes, I've said before that this applies to the creation of stand-alone articles. If an article doesn't pass that muster, it should be deleted, and the question of nominating the article for ITN would thus be made moot. But until it is deleted, I think it's not a WP:NOTNEWS violation to post those events if it can be determined to be significant in some manner. ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 18:14, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per MarioJump. I'm not sure if this meets our standard of significance. That said, the article quality is up to par. The Kip (talk) 15:29, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Definitely meets the hypothetical WP:MINIMUMDEATHS and even aside from that, it is significant as a great escalation in the conflict as shown by Curbon7. I think that the blurb should give some context though. The ⬡ Bestagon T/C 15:56, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I’m not sure if we can call it a significant escalation without any longer-term significance. If this escalated into days of riots, sure, but if it’s an isolated incident (as it seems to be now) that doesn’t fit the definition. The Kip (talk) 16:42, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • support per curbon7, alt over initial nom. nableezy - 16:02, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Mario. We should wait. _-_Alsor (talk) 16:05, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Mario Ludicrous (talk) 16:10, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait. The article doesn't even seem to have a good handle on how many people were killed. Looks like a lot of uncertainty. DarkSide830 (talk) 17:48, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per @Curbon7 Crusader1096 (message) 01:25, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Per @MarioJump83. Also, death toll does not automatically mean notability. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 11:44, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Thomas H. Lee (businessman)

Article: Thomas H. Lee (businessman) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [11]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 05:22, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support Article appears to be very well-cited and holistic. Curbon7 (talk) 05:34, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The article says "Lee was found dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound" but the corresponding citation says "The police spokesman did not confirm the man had died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, noting the cause of death would be for a medical examiner to determine." It's not enough to have citations. You have to accurately follow them. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:48, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's a shame we don't all work on an encyclopedia that anyone can edit, or else maybe we'd be able to fix this problem. ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 13:16, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Good catch, I hadn't seen that. Curbon7 (talk) 13:27, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've edited this, all the source is able to fully justify is that he was found dead, not the cause. Courcelles (talk) 16:37, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed it does not say this any more. It did not when I nominated it, and we can semi-protect the article if unconfirmed BLP details are repeatedly reinserted. Please reexamine your vote Andrew Davidson. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:15, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The news sources do not seem to have much detail about this death. As it is somewhat suspicious and controversial, we should wait upon further investigation. There's no rush as we are not a newspaper. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:42, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
... which is why the article shouldn't state a cause of death at this point. But that does not mean the article shouldn't be posted. I don't understand that logic. Nor do I understand why you didn't remove it yourself when you saw it, instead leaving it in the article to comment on it here. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:48, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Also, didn't you complain that we didn't move fast enough to post something? Why the change in tack now? It reads as though you are complaining for the sake of complaining. ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 19:21, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thomas Lee's death ruled a suicide by gunshot. (Not that we needed them to for ITN/RD.) So now that there's no reason to oppose this, Andrew Davidson, I presume you can strike your "oppose", even if you don't want to answer the question about why you saw a potential BLP violation and did not remove it yourself. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:28, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Donald Dillbeck

Article: Donald Dillbeck (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: He was killed by the state of Florida today. RockstoneSend me a message! 00:58, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Text RD A name like this draws its own attention. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:12, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The prose is very casual (ex. "Dillbeck's father walked out on him", "shooting a deputy dead", "Dillbeck's court-appointed lawyer conceded his crimes and tried to save him from the electric chair", etc.) in spots. There are also WP:PROSELINE issues. Curbon7 (talk) 05:32, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Seems to violate WP:PERP. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:45, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Read on. "Where there are no appropriate existing articles, the criminal or victim in question should be the subject of a Wikipedia article only if one of the following applies:..." Andrew🐉(talk) 12:40, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article doesn't explain it because it's not an unusual delay. In Japan and the United States (the two developed liberal democracies that retain the death penalty), there's usually a significant delay between the crime and punishment, since even people sentenced to die are given strong due process rights. -- RockstoneSend me a message! 22:22, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: John Motson

Article: John Motson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article isn't in too bad a state, but does need some work on getting the sourcing up to spec. SchroCat (talk) 10:05, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support - article looks good Crusader1096 (message) 15:34, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Posted -- KTC (talk) 21:56, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

February 22

February 22, 2023 (2023-02-22) (Wednesday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

International relations

(Posted) RD: Doug Fisher (American football)

Article: Doug Fisher (American football) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): San Diego Union-Tribune
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Died on February 12, first reported in the San Diego Union-Tribune on February 22. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:31, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Salundik Gohong

Article: Salundik Gohong (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://prokalteng.jawapos.com/prometro/pro-kalteng/23/02/2023/kabar-duka-mantan-wali-kota-palangka-raya-salundik-gohong-meninggal/
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indonesian politician, former mayor. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 14:17, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Ahmed Qurei

Article: Ahmed Qurei (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Haaretz
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Prime Minister of Palestine. - Indefensible (talk) 06:53, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Tasuku Tsukada

Article: Tasuku Tsukada (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): TBS (Japanese)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Japanese politician. - Indefensible (talk) 06:15, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Literary citations should be standardized as {{Sfn}}. The lede also needs to be shortened, as it contains a lot of excessive biographical information that should be moved to the body. Curbon7 (talk) 16:39, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Kanak Rele

Article: Kanak Rele (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): India Today
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian performer & academic. - Indefensible (talk) 06:08, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Mats Löfving

Article: Mats Löfving (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Goteborgs-Posten (Swedish)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Swedish law enforcement officer. - Indefensible (talk) 06:00, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Possibly ready) RD: Ellen Inga O. Hætta

Article: Ellen Inga O. Hætta (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NRK (Norwegian)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Norwegian educator & politician. - Indefensible (talk) 05:55, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Simone Segouin

Proposed image
Article: Simone Segouin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): L'Echo Republicain
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Interesting article. Kafoxe (talk) 04:19, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Conditional support Article appears to be well-cited. The brief mention of her post-war career is sufficient for holisticity, as that is not the focus. The condition for my support is that her promotion to LT and awarding of the Croix de Guerre is included twice; I have no opinion on which should be removed, so that is up to someone else's discretion. Irrelevant for RD purposes, but that picture is freaking awesome! Curbon7 (talk) 08:37, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above, rest in peace. Editor 5426387 (talk) 14:32, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support but I don't think people are going to hack it putting up a photo RD when the current image on the ITN template is a landslide. --⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 20:08, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Considering that at the peak of the Turko-Syrian earthquake, we had folks trying to shuffle stories to keep the earthquake at the top of the ITN section or attempting to remove the section image and replace it with the earthquake image, and how we literally had a story pulled because people were complaining that by including it, it was "crass" and we were disrespecting the victims, you're probably right. Though admittedly the Brazilian carnival landslides are inferior in magnitude to the earthquake. Crusader1096 (message) 21:40, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above. Crusader1096 (message) 21:36, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with The Kip. What's the point of arguing for it here when there is no consensus elsewhere for this Photo RD proposal. Get consensus on the talk page first. Natg 19 (talk) 05:08, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
On the talk page, I already am. Here, I just voted for one, not argued. Sort of arguing with Kip, but only to clarify the point, not sway him. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:18, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Needs attention) Cyclone Freddy

Proposed image
Cyclone Freddy making landfall in Madagascar
Article: Cyclone Freddy (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Four deaths occur after Cyclone Freddy (satellite loop pictured) makes landfall in Madagascar
News source(s): (Reuters)
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Impacts will only become more clear and notable as time goes on. RandomInfinity17 (talk - contributions) 23:49, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose This is why you dont nominate before you know the extent of the impact. Four deaths is normal for most storms and thus shouldnt be posted.
NoahTalk 12:51, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There is nothing wrong with nominating it early, Hurricane Noah, particularly if landfall is indeed occurring on the date it was nominated for. This is also RandomInfinity17's first contribution to ITN; please don't WP:BITE as it contributes to the notion that ITN/C has a toxic atmosphere. ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 13:41, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is the storm isn't done and the most impactful area is likely to be inland Africa during the next few or potentially several days as a result of the rain threat. Decent potential that Madagascar is only a small piece of this rather than the main event. NoahTalk 14:48, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
An additional comment... I have honestly been stressed out and pissed off this entire week due to exams, people messing stuff up at my job, and my brakes going out on my car which means yet another expenditure. NoahTalk 15:47, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Cyclone Gabrielle had caused 5 deaths when it was posted. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 19:07, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There were different circumstances that lead to its posting. It wasn't about deaths but rather the severity of the damage and rarity of such impactful storms in NZ. NoahTalk 19:53, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wait until its impacts becomes clearer after its landfall in Mozambique Rainbow Galaxy POC (talk) 13:13, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wait - Per all above. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 11:44, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Leaning towards Support - freddy made its 2nd landfall and is weakening overland. more info will come out as time goes by but since the storm is dissipating and we keep voting for "wait" then it might be too late to be featured in the news Rainbow Galaxy POC (talk) 14:50, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support ongoing Article is being updated and the storm is still active. It's pretty much been stationary and just dumping rain the past few days which has led to serious flooding across Mozambique and Zimbabwe... Death total is up to 16 and the storm isn't expected to dissipate for a decent while so I feel ongoing would be appropriate. NoahTalk 01:54, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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