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Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination. Every approved hook will appear on the main page.

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For a simplified version of these instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK.
For a step-by-step guide to filling out the {{NewDYKnom}} template, see Template:NewDYKnomination/guide.

Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

1. Nom without image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= }}
2. Nom with image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= | image= | caption= }}

   To include more than one new or expanded article in a single hook: |article2= |article3= |article4= | (etc)

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{{subst:NewDYKnom
 | article      = Example
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 | hook         = ... that this [[article]] is an  '''[[example]]''' ''(pictured)''?
 | author       = User1
 | nominator    = User2
 | image        = Example.png
 | rollover     = An example image
 | alttext      = Description of the image
 | comment      =
 | reviewed     = Article you reviewed
 | revieweddiff = diff link to the article review
}}

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Articles created/expanded on March 27

Hollingworth Magniac

• ... that in 1832, Hollingworth Magniac recruited William Jardine and James Matheson to his firm before the pair changed its name to Jardine Matheson and Company, which went on to become a Fortune 500 listed company?

Created by Philg88 (talk). Self nom at 11:38, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Myth of Skanderbeg
• Article length and dates are OK. The hook is a bit too long, but that could be pretty easily fixed by a rewrite. The big problem is that I can't find a source for the hook fact. I do see a source for the assertion that Jardine Matheson is Fortune 500-listed, but I don't see a source for the part about recruiting William Jardine and James Matheson to the firm. All elements of the hook fact need to be supported in the article by inline citations. --Orlady (talk) 03:47, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• Good points. I will come up with an ALT later; I have a new source that states "the largest trading company in Asia" which is a bit more punchy. ► Philg88 ◄ ^talk 03:51, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that it was Hollingworth Magniac, not William Jardine and James Matheson, who in 1832 founded Jardine, Matheson and Company, a firm that would go on to become Asia's largest trading concern? ► Philg88 ◄ ^talk 06:46, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

That's a crisper hook, but I am continuing to have difficulty verifying both hooks. It's not clear from the article who founded Magniac & Co, which seems to be the legal predecessor of Jardine Matheson. I cannot determine whether you are saying that Hollingworth founded Magniac & Co, or whether he later formed a new partnership that became Jardine Matheson. (I note that the article Jardine Matheson Holdings does not give Hollingworth Magniac nearly as much credit as this article does.) Ref 4 does, however, indicate that the name was changed to Jardine Matheson in 1832. The article does not have very many inline citations, so I cannot determine where a lot of the information in the article comes from. It appears that much of the story is on the pages of the book "The Thistle and the Jade," which makes me think that some additional inline references to that book (ideally to specific pages) would help support the article and the hook. Please try adding inline citations so that there is a clearer indication of where all of the article content comes from... --Orlady (talk) 19:33, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

OK, will do. Magniac's role has been played down by JM for obvious reasons, but without dear old Hollingworth the future partners would never have met. In a nutshell, Magniac & Co took both Jardine and Matheson into his existing company. After he retired and went back to England, the new partners changed the firm's name to JM. ► Philg88 ◄ ^talk 00:36, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

I've added a link in the article to the online version of A business in risk: Jardine Matheson and the Hong Kong trading industry which shows the evolution of the firms involved. Let me know if it's still an issue. Best, ► Philg88 ◄ ^talk 00:59, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

There's still a problem with referencing in the article. Here's my analysis of the sourcing:

• Reference 1 (offline) supports Hollingworth's life dates and the names of his wife and parents.
• Reference 2 (the "thistle and jade" book) supports information about his father, the fact that John Reid became Austria's Chinese Consul, the fact that Charles Magniac was killed on a trip to Europe (I added that ref), and the fact that Hollingworth wanted to leave Asia (I also added that ref).
• Reference 3 documents information about the establishment of Magniac, Smith & Co. The article also cites it as the source for the statement that Hollingworth searched for a senior partner and settled on Jardine, but I can't find that in the book. (Only part of the book is online, but search indicates that Hollingworth is mentioned on only 3 pages. I can see page 27, where he is discussed, and page 39, where his name is in a footnote. I can only see a snippet of search results from the third page, which is the index page that indicates he is mentioned on page 27. Accordingly, I don't believe this fact is supported by this book.)
• Reference 4 documents the date when Jardine joined Magniac and Co., and it documents the dates of company name changes, but it doesn't mention Hollingworth nor document the details of who invited Jardine to join Magniac and Co.
• Reference 5 (offline) documents Jardine Matheson being the largest trading company in Asia. Reference 6 documents its being listed in the Fortune 500.
• Reference 7 documents the memorial to Hollingworth and his wife and references 7 and 8 document his art collection.

I can't identify the source(s) for most of the article's details about Hollingworth, his business activities, his brother Daniel, and his relationship to Jardine and Matheson. It's not necessary for sources to be online, but they do need to be cited. --Orlady (talk) 16:17, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

OK, I'm working on it ► Philg88 ◄ ^talk 02:42, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

I've reworded some of the text and added more references but the hook fact will have to be tweaked accordingly. So I propose:

ALT2 ...Hollingworth Magniac was in partnership with William Jardine and James Matheson before the pair changed the firm's name to Jardine Matheson and Company, which went on to become the largest trading company in Asia?
► Philg88 ◄ ^talk 01:39, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 28

Breast shaped hill

• ... that the name Mamucium which gave origin to the name of the city of Manchester is thought to derive from the Celtic language meaning breast shaped hill (example pictured)?

Created/expanded by Xufanc (talk). Nominated by AgadaUrbanit (talk) at 15:36, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Emilio Changco AgadaUrbanit (talk) 05:21, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Ever heard the expression "Damn that hill is really getting on my tits?"♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:33, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 10:48, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Returned from preps because the article contains only ~1350 bytes of prose. I understand there is much bulleted information, but it is mostly unreferenced. Many of those hills have no wikipedia articles/images, and thus are not certainly breast shaped. Materialscientist (talk) 10:03, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

I read "not certainly breast shaped" as "certainly not breast shaped", as if all breast-shaped hills would by now, of course, have their own articles on Wikipedia. - Dravecky (talk) 12:53, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Argh :) .. I meant we can't be sure they are (all) breast shaped. Materialscientist (talk) 03:25, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Recycling in Canada

• ... that recycling in Canada is administered by the provincial and local governments?

5x expanded by Kevlar67 (talk). Self nom at 20:43, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

I believe the hook should be more specific. There may be too many red links for topics that will never be pursued further. Billy Hathorn (talk) 14:04, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Agreed with above user. Plus the citations need to have full ref templates, rather than bare URLS (there is a tag noting this already, I'm just drawing attention to it). Ruby2010 talk 22:27, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn's concerns are unaddressed while Ruby2010's have been resolved. However, no one has notified expander/nominator Kevlar67 of these concerns, so I have just notified Kevlar67. OCNative (talk) 02:58, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 30

Jacques Cauvin

• ... that Jacques Cauvin considered the neolithic revolution moved into Anatolia via "the acculturation of a local cultural background by a dominant, expansionist culture"?

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 22:05, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Aspidopleura

Hook verified, length and age OK - almost ready to go. There are, however, some large sections of text for which it would be good to have some references.Ivolocy (talk) 21:46, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

This article is not DYK-ready. There are five references, all used once each and three of which appear at the end of the one-line lede. Most of the article is unreferenced and there is an enormous list of published works by the subject. With such an output, a few highlights are sufficient. In order to be approved for DYK, there must be at least one reference per paragraph. The lede should be a rough description of the article and therefore generally does not contain references, which are instead used in the body of the article, where the real information is detailed.

Also, I think that hook could use some work. It's very long, doesn't seem quite grammatical — "considered the neolithic revolution to have moved into Anatolia" would be better, no? It's currently at 199 characters, which means it's already about maximum length.

You are encouraged to work on the article and add the necessary references. Marrante (talk) 07:57, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

I have referenced it better and shortened the hook and bibliography as suggested. Paul Bedson (talk) 01:42, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

I am not sure what the standard is for biographies, but I think you should try and reduce the bibliography to his 10-15 most important works. And I would certainly drop all translations.--Zoeperkoe (talk) 02:48, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

I've reduced the article to books only. Which has totally ruined the page as a unique English reference tool for Cauvin's work. I guess there are powers out there that want the prehistory of the Lebanon to remain hidden (for now). Hopefully it's DYK-able now though. Paul Bedson (talk) 19:09, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Prompted by the comments here I've tracked down Wikipedia:Manual of Style (lists of works), which states that Complete lists of works, appropriately sourced to reliable scholarship (WP:V), are encouraged, particularly when such lists are not already freely available on the internet. If the list has a separate article, a simplified version should also be provided in the main article. Since the list of works for Cauvin was long, I would suggest that, subject to providing sources, a separate list may be appropriate in this case, rather than wholesale deletion. For example see List of scientific publications by Albert Einstein. Ivolocy (talk) 18:52, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

My personal concern remains that I would like to see more of the text linked to references. The first main paragraph, for example, starts by taking about 1959 and ends in 1976, but has only one link to a reference for the entire paragraph. It may simply be that all of this paragraph is contained in this since reference; if so, then personally I would add links to this single reference after each major point, rather than just once at the end. If not, then links to the other sources would be appropriate. Ivolocy (talk) 19:06, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

I've linked more of the text to the 2 primary sources used. Hope that helps clear things up. Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 03:20, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 31

Jens Joneleit

• ... that Daniel Barenboim conducted and Christoph Schlingensief had planned to stage the opera Metanoia. Über das Denken hinaus, composed by Jens Joneleit (pictured)?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 13:24, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed: #Cornish fairings --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:06, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

I have questions about length here. Over half of the "Professional Career" section is a long quote, and the "Operas" section reads like an annotated list, which is followed by a table. There is nothing about his life either, not even education. Seems incomplete.Thelmadatter (talk) 01:34, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• I can add, but not this weekend. He will never be "complete", though, too prolific. You may have noticed that I created 11 composer articles (for the Munich Biennale article) one day which all met the DYK deadline the same day ..., --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:22, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Gerd Kühr

• ... that the playwright Franz Xaver Kroetz himself wrote the libretto for the Munich Biennale opera Stallerhof of Gerd Kühr, based on his play on a taboo topic?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 10:03, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed #Confluence (sculpture) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:27, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• Comment. There are some grammatical issues which lead me to be unsure of what the hook is trying to say. Can it be better phrased as

ALT1: that the libretto to Gerd Kühr's opera Stallerhof was written by playwright Franz Xaver Kroetz? (I'm not sure what the deal is with the "taboo topic." What is the opera actually about?) Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 19:20, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• I formatted ALT1, but only to reject it. Many opera librettos were written by playwrights, that is not so special. But in this case, the playwright turned his own successful play into a libretto. I hope for suggestions to say so. Taboo: the ref, a review, says: "I chanced at Lucerne upon Stallerhof, based upon a dialect play that caused a furore in 1972 because of its stark and shocking treatment of taboo subject matter". I leave it to the reader to find out more, the review is quite explicit, but that is not the topic of the article about the composer, just meant to create curiosity. - In addition: there is a German Wikipedia article on the play, mentioning the opera. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:46, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• How about:

ALT2: that playwright Franz Xaver Kroetz turned his controversial play Stallerhof into an opera libretto for Gerd Kühr, which premiered at the Munich Biennale?

It just sounds weird to say "it's a taboo topic" without saying what the topic is, but it's slightly less awkwardly phrased this way. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 03:58, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• If you think so, fine with me, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:18, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

I agree about the unspecified taboo subject. Creating curiosity is fine, as long as it's satisfied in the article (which it isn't (wasn't)). I looked into it, thinking I could clarify the sentence, but my German isn't up to it: the servant befriends the girl who may be mentally deficient (but can do the mental tests when her parents aren't watching). When a sexual relationship develops, the parents kill the servant's dog .. so where exactly is the taboo? Is the girl really mentally deficient? I couldn't work it out. An alternate hook might be to say that Kühr's first two operas were based on subjects highly controversial in his native Catholic Austria .. or some such. Here's the subject of his second opera:

The play "Death and the Devil" by Peter Turrini caused a violent controversial discussion in 1990 on the occasion of the first performance in Vienna's Burgtheater: the story of the pastor Bley, "the sin can no longer understand", is a critical examination of the Catholic Church, and the way that they deal with guilt and sin. Bley does finally - a modern "Passion Play" - and taking the role of Jesus Christ, dies a sacrificial death nailed to the cross. (sorry, Google translation, with interpolations/ guesses)

On the downside, it needs a bit of work to expand the work descriptions, on the upside we could probably get 5000+ accesses for that hook (if that's important to the Opera project) ... Scarabocchio (talk) 20:33, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

PS. ALT2 is fine. Scarabocchio (talk) 20:38, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• Without need for google translate a click on ref 4 shows: "... Franz-Xaver Kroetz 's Stallerhof deals with stunted emotions in a dysfunctional, impoverished rural home. A small farmer is unable to relate to his wife, nor can either of them do so in any positive way to their 14 yr old mentally retarded daughter, Beppi. The central characters are Sepp (Johannes Kosters), a lonely and sexually frustrated seasonal worker, who rapes and befriends Beppi (Elisabeth Rolli), their developing mutual friendship showing the only tenderness on display. That illicit relationship is, of course, doomed. / The girl's pregnancy leads to Sepp's eviction from the household and to Beppi's father killing Sepp's dog (his only steady companion) as a warning in case he should show up again. Murder of the bastard baby, and even that of the erring girl herself, is considered. An abortion is prepared, but the mother finds the procedure too distasteful to complete and father muses that he had always wanted a son - -. There is a vein of fantasy alongside this sordid reality. / The final scene has Beppi's pregnancy going to term and delivery, with the child/mother calling for Mama, just as does the naughty child at the end of Ravel's L'enfant et les sortileges. ..." I think this should not be part of the article on the composer, but is easily accessible. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:53, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Fred (baboon)

• ... that Fred the baboon was captured and given a lethal injection after assaulting tourists, breaking into their cars and stealing food?

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Self nom at 11:24, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: John Jympson

• Everything checks out. However, I've included another possible option....
• For April Fools' Day: ALT1 ... that a gang leader was executed by lethal injection for the crimes of assaulting tourists and breaking into their cars to steal food? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 03:40, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• Or would this be more suitable? ALT2 ... that Fred, an aggressive gang leader, was executed by lethal injection for multiple assaults, theft and breaking into cars in Cape Town? --candle•wicke 09:33, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• The article refers to Fred as "the leader of a baboon gang". However, I checked through all of the available sources listed (The Times site seems to be unavailable), and, while some mention that Fred was an "alpha male", I didn't see any that specifically say that he was a gang leader. I don't think that's close enough for hook verification purposes, so, unless other sources emerge, I'd recommend abandoning the April 1 idea and going with the original hook. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 09:17, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
• D'oh! The Times site is now coming through, and it uses the term "troop leader". That's good enough for me. I've added an inline citation immediately after that in the article, and I once again think that an April Fools' hook may be viable. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:26, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• I have copied this to Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know, as per the discussion above. OCNative (talk) 01:24, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Survivor Series (2000)

• ... that a match at the World Wrestling Federation's Survivor Series (2000) event ended with one wrestler using a forklift to destroy a car, supposedly with his opponent trapped inside?

5x expanded by Richard "Wrestler" Lopez (talk). Nominated by GaryColemanFan (talk) at 15:16, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

• Added links to the individual wrestlers alluded to in the hook. — Dale Arnett (talk) 18:29, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Lumley Chapel

• ... that Lumley Chapel (pictured) is the oldest standing building in the London Borough of Sutton?

• Reviewed: Tommy Lyttle

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 09:22, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Date length and hook approved. Good to go.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:07, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Disorders of consciousness

• ... that differential diagnosis of disorders of consciousness is an active area of biomedical research?

Created by razorbelle (talk). Self nom at 20:34, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• I'm sorry but you created this article in March 31st, and DYK articles are supposed to be 5 days or younger (or 5 days or less has been since the article was expanded) at the time of nomination. The article also doesn't fulfil the requirements concerning length (the prose falls just short of 1500 characters), and it's generally expected that the article is cited throughout (I got a suggestion to provide at least one ref tag per pargraph). For future reference, until you have successfully self-nominated 5 DYKs, i.e. are "new to DYK", you are exempt from the new rule that self-nominators should always review another DYK and provide the diff link for their review as proof that they did it. As long as you fall in the "new to DYK" users category, it'd be helpful if you made a comment to say you're new. Pitke (talk) 15:04, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 1

Authenticity in art

• ... that a performer's authenticity in art may involve conforming to the composer's intention or ignoring it?

• Reviewed: Sequoiadendron chaneyi

5x expanded by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 00:37, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

• Wasn't the expansion done by you?--Yaksar (let's chat) 03:07, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

• Yes. I have fixed it. Aymatth2 (talk) 12:06, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Ruislip Manor

• ... that Ruislip Manor was largely undeveloped rural land at the turn of the 20th century until the arrival of the Metropolitan Railway in 1912?

5x expanded by Harrison49 (talk). Self nom at 19:41, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Leslie Bethell

Hook o.k., but not yet a 5x expansion. Aymatth2 (talk) 00:37, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

It is up from 170 characters to 1622 when links, the infobox and references are removed. Harrison49 (talk) 14:39, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

• You are right - it is 5x expanded. Something is wrong with the DYK check tool. It shows the version before expansion started as 148 characters, size now as 1612 characters, but says it has not been expanded 5x. This may be caused by old versions that contained garbage content, since removed, such as this version. Good to go. Aymatth2 (talk) 15:56, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Three Fishers

• ... that in the late 1800s when Antoinette Sterling sang the English folk song "Three Fishers" she made the first verse "quite bright" so as not to give away the unhappy ending?

Created by MrFizyx (talk). Self nom at 16:02, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

• Everything checks out. I've revised the hook slightly to reduce the amount that is inside quotation marks. --Orlady (talk) 19:40, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Josh Harrellson

• ... that coach Billy Gillispie once made Kentucky Wildcats center Josh Harrellson (pictured) sit in a bathroom stall during halftime of a game?

• Reviewed: Dennis Coralluzzo Invitational ([1])

Created by Acdixon (talk). Self nom at 17:35, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

• DYK ready.--VictoriousGastain (talk) 17:48, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Looks like my next door neighbour, only a foot taller...♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:45, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Mollie's Nipple

• ... that Molly has at least eight nipples marked by the US Geological Survey?

• Reviewed: Fishing industry in Greenland ([2])

Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 16:44, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Fun and amusing! length and references check out. I added a "the" to the hook before USGS to make it flow better.--Kevmin § 17:05, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Comment How about linking the DYK article to the "Molly" or "nipples" (should this be spelled "Mollie"), rather than the somewhat counter-intuitive USGS? Something like "... that the US Geological Survey has named at least eight of Mollie's Nipples in Utah? Canada Hky (talk) 00:20, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

The spelling differs from source to source, so I am not sure which one to use. About linking to Mollie's Nipple, well, yes, but IMO the hook will be more mysterious, if it is linked to nipples or is not linked to anything. I removed the link to nipples. It is even better without it. In any case I'll leave it to an admin, who is going to move the hook to prep area to decide which one to use. Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 01:18, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

My thinking was - if I see a link for the USGS - meh. Mollie's Nipples, on the other hand - I'm probably going to click on. With it buried in the USGS link, you don't notice it until you mouse over. Just a thought.  :) Canada Hky (talk) 03:54, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

How about ALT2:... that Mollie has at least eight nipples marked by the US Geological Survey? OCNative (talk) 06:15, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

I like it :-)--Mbz1 (talk) 23:00, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

STOP! This would be one of the most unencyclopedic suggestions I have seen for a long time. The article says Mollie's Nipple or Molly's Nipple is the name given to as many as seven peaks in Utah. It does NOT say/suggest that Mollie/Molly has at least eight nipples. The tacky inference is mind boggling, but much worse is the expectation that someone would totally savage the meaning of an article to produce such a childish DYK which has no relevance to the article. Sigh. Moriori (talk) 07:37, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Well, I guess I am still in April Fools' Day :-) and I believe the hook is good enough, but, if an admin or an editor, who will move it to the preparation area believes it is not, here's ALT2:... that in Utah there are at least seven peaks that are named for the nipple of Molly?--Mbz1 (talk) 23:00, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

I will go with this suggestion to but I think that there is nothing wrong with the original hook, as is is accurate. I may have been better to link Molly as the article title, while leaving a link to the USGS, but it is verifiable that Mollie has at least seven nipples in Utah. --Kevmin § 03:53, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

How about ALT4:... that Mollie has at least seven nipples marked by the US Geological Survey? OCNative (talk) 11:48, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

St Mary's Church, Fleet Marston

• ... that, soon after he was ordained, John Wesley preached in St Mary's Church, in Fleet Marston, Buckinghamshire?

• Reviewed: The Egyptian Halls

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 13:43, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

• • Length ok, but the church is not named in the reference as for John Wesley. Jim Sweeney (talk) 13:50, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

• True. I've added the CCT ref to the end of the sentence, and I think that together the refs fully confirm the hook.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 14:50, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

• • Ok I have changed the hook slightly now good to go.Jim Sweeney (talk) 18:12, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

The Egyptian Halls

• ... that although described as one of the finest buildings in Glasgow, The Egyptian Halls may be demolished?

Created by Yorkshiresky (talk). Self nom at 12:42, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Stephen McKeag
• All DYK criteria met; image OK. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 13:37, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Swakeleys House

• ... that the 17th century Jacobean mansion Swakeleys House (pictured) in Ickenham was visited by Samuel Pepys in 1665 and recorded in his diary?

Created by Harrison49 (talk). Self nom at 23:16, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Leslie Bethell

• Date, length, and hook verified. Offline source accepted in good faith. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 01:37, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Museum of Lebanese Prehistory

• ... that the Museum of Lebanese Prehistory exhibits neolithic relics from the Beqaa Valley recovered by Jesuits?

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 23:10, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Treatise of Love Paul Bedson (talk) 22:20, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

• I couldn't find an inline citation to support the hook; am I just not seeing it? --Rosiestep (talk) 02:47, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• The citation supporting the hook is from [[3]] Sfeir, Mia., Femme Magazine - Préhistoire VS Urbanisation, le témoignage d’Henri Fleisch - Issue 206 - P.70 Published June 1, 2010. - it could be translated into English - he surveyed with other Jesuits at the time, much of the Lebanese coastline and mountains and freezes thousands of images, his passion for what he called "stones". A term to describe small tools and remains belonging to the cavemen. For my surprise, there are nearly a million years, long before the Phoenicians, bipedal hominid just from Africa were halted in Lebanon. A selection from nearly 400 prehistoric sites discovered along the Lebanese coast and in the Bekaa Valley are demonstrated. Paul Bedson (talk) 03:17, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 2

Shoot to Kill (1990 TV drama)

• ... that Shoot to Kill (1990) was made as a drama documentary because its subjects were all "either dead, disappeared, or not allowed to talk"?

Created by Jheald (talk). Self nom at 14:15, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• Comment Sorry it's a couple of days late. I still have the plot summary to do, but I wanted to at least get it into the process. Jheald (talk) 14:26, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
• Reviewed Supernatural (Des'ree album). [4].

• Comment Shouldn't that be "had disappeared" instead of "were disappeared"? -- Nczempin (talk) 14:33, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Well, it is in quotes, and that it how it was actually said per the original. I suppose it is a slight grammatic stretch to be using "disappeared" as an adjective, rather than part of a verb; but if anything to me that slight unorthodoxy in the use of language adds to the vividness of the quote, and thence also the hook. Jheald (talk) 15:44, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
    • The were that makes it wrong is not inside the quotes. How about something like "were said to be" (or use the active voice somehow) and then the quote? -- Nczempin (talk) 15:53, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
      • The were is there in the original source.[5] If you like, we can move the opening quote mark back one word, though I think makes has more impact as it is. Jheald (talk) 16:03, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
        • Putting it inside at least makes it clear that the error is in the original, but the question is: Do you want to draw attention to the grammar or to the interesting fact? I would avoid using the direct quote and state the facts. -- Nczempin (talk) 16:25, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
          • I don't think it is an "error", as you put it. To me it's within the natural idiomatic flexibility that's accommodated in English, certainly as spoken and also as quoted. But this may be a case of different regional/national attitudes to grammatical flexibility. In my view, and it may be more of a UK-centred English view, a certain amount of the right kind of grammatical flexibility, when it naturally goes with the language, is allowable and even welcome if it allows an idea to be communicated more punchily and effectively. This kind of flexibility and license is even ultimately how languages evolve. I honestly don't have a problem with the use of "disappeared" as a quasi-adjective here, given its position in this particular sentence. Jheald (talk) 16:38, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
            • [edit conflict] "were dead, [were] disappeared, or [were] not allowed to talk", if not incorrect (if you allow the stretch that someone is disappeared; I would have no objection to someone using it in spoken English, but I wouldn't expect it in a reputable newspaper, journal or book.), it simply draws attention to itself, and I don't think that was your intention. I speak and write British English almost exclusively BTW (so that can't be it). -- Nczempin (talk) 16:54, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
            • In the end, you can phrase the hook in whatever way you like; I was just trying to help (and not formally reviewing it). I am leaving this page now for a while, for other reasons; if you want to continue, you can come to my talk page. I'm fine either way. -- Nczempin (talk) 17:51, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Axis power negotiations on the division of Asia during World War II

• ... that during World War II, Germany and Japan wanted to divide all of Asia between each other along a line on the 70th meridian east longitude?

Created by Morgan Hauser (talk). Self nom at 03:38, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• Length checks out. Hook reference accepted in good faith from offline source (plus I remember the hook's fact from my own history courses in college). Date is verified as evening of April 2 while nomination was early morning of April 8, so this technically fails the five day rule by a few hours. However, Morgan Hauser has only had one DYK credit before, so we could slightly bend the five day rule on this one. Morgan Hauser also doesn't need to review another nomination due to his having only had one DYK credit. I took the liberty of adding wikilinks to World War II, Nazi Germany, Empire of Japan, and 70th meridian east. OCNative (talk) 08:11, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Garawarra State Conservation Area

• ... that Jackwood, Sassafras and Bollygum grow in the Garawarra State Conservation Area?

Created by Poyt448 (talk), Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 12:48, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Neanaperiallus Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:02, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• date and length fine. As for the hook: I find it referenced only by the Latin names. If there is no other reference, please give the Latin names also in the article, and repeat the ref for all three plants. Or find more ref(s) or a different hook, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:51, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• All three species' common names are now referenced in their respective species articles with our national herbarium website. If you want to add the species names to the hook I am not too fussed but I don't think it is necessary. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:25, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Perhaps I was not clear enough, I don't want to have species names in the hook. Ref 2 doesn't mention Sassafras, and how do I know that Ref 4 is for this specific park? Camp Gully is mentioned in the ref and in the picture captions but not in the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:46, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Aah ok, Camp Gully is in the park, see 360 here I will look for something which states it is in the park, although visually the map shows it there. Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:35, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
• Damn, can't find any other webref linking Camp Gully to Garawarra even though obvious. Never mind. The following trees are listed on official gov't webpage. Alt hook below Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:48, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• ... that Blackbutt, Christmas Bells and Turpentine grow in the Garawarra State Conservation Area?

thank you, that's easier for the less specialized reader,

German destroyer Z9 Wolfgang Zenker

• ... that the German destroyer Z9 Wolfgang Zenker had exhausted her ammunition after the Second Naval Battle of Narvik on 13 April 1940 and she had to be scuttled by placing demolition charges after she had been beached?

Created by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Self nom at 04:30, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Gulf Coast Lines--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 04:30, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
• I took the liberty of removing a stray question mark from the hook. Melchoir (talk) 05:20, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
• Date and length verified, off-line source accepted in good faith, pretty well known fact anyway. Calistemon (talk) 17:37, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Hans Daniel Namuhuja

• ... that Hans Daniel Namuhuja was the first author to publish poetry in Oshindonga, a dialect of Oshiwambo?

• Reviewed: Social Foundations of Thought and Action ([6])
• Comment: Only one source, and barely over the 1500 character limit. Maybe still acceptable as there are not too many sources discussing this type of content. --Pgallert (talk) 09:27, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Created by Pgallert (talk). Self nom at 09:27, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• one source would be not a serious problem for me, but the date 1 April together with that makes me think. And why does it look like two sources? And what kind of source is New Era? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:39, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• Hi Gerda, this was not intended as April fool's joke. New Era (Namibia) is one of two English national daily newspapers. Close to the ruling party but as this article is not political I believe there is no problem. I wanted to put the quote into the article because the source does not verbatim say he was the first to publish in Oshindonga. I thought with the quote in the text one can make an own judgment to see I did not publish OR. But the quote only supports the first paragraph. That's why I put the same reference a second time, without the quote. If there is a more elegant way to do this, please let me know. There are blogs discussing him, and there are several sources in Oshiwambo such as this which I unfortunately cannot read. Hope this clarifies, cheers, Pgallert (talk) 13:29, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for explaining. My recommendation: make the quote part of the article and use the source we cannot read as a second ref. Is there a "print version" of the article, without the advertising? That also would look more reliable. Getting closer, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:12, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• Implemented the quote and added the Oshiwambo text as external link. I don't really want to put it as reference to a particular claim as I do not understand this language at all. Will ask one of my students to translate at least the title. Regarding the print version: I do not see much advertising there, the print version leads to some weird JavaScript that does not work without a printer. Maybe it is acceptable like this? --Pgallert (talk) 12:17, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• yes, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:32, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Gulf Coast Lines

• ... that from 1916 to 1924, Gulf Coast Lines was the name of an independent, 1000-mile system of railroads stretching from New Orleans, Louisiana, to Brownsville, Texas?

• Reviewed: Bench Around the Lake

Created by Textorus (talk). Self nom at 07:32, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Hook validated, but not very interesting, IMO. The magnitude of the increase in the price of land after the railroad arrives is much more interesting, but isn't directly relevant to the Gulf Coast Lines, per se.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 04:30, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

I agree with both your points; not much has been written about this railroad, probably because it was independent for only 8 years. So it's hard to think up a hook of interest to non-railfans, but making use of a related article I just created, how about this:

ALT1 . . . that in 1903, visionary "empire builder" Benjamin Franklin Yoakum began building the Gulf Coast Lines in southern Texas as a link in a projected transcontinental railroad system stretching from Chicago to Mexico?

Textorus (talk) 03:24, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

::Whups, I notice some other editor has already started crapping up this article I sweated over for two days and nights, adding unsourced claims and changing the meaning of sentences. Sigh. Oh well maybe I'll get it cleaned up before it appears on DYK. Or not. Who cares? It's Wikipedia! Textorus (talk) 04:02, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

That would be a much more interesting hook, but it needs better support in the Gulf Coast Lines article. And it may be too long.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:37, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

I have just added a direct quotation from an official MoPac history that should provide plenty of support. Also, my ALT1 hook is 32 words; the longest entry on main page DYK at this moment is 38 words. So will this do now? Textorus (talk) 05:42, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Hooks are measured by number of characters, not number of words. Wikipedia:Did you know#The hook says hooks should be less than 200 characters. The suggested ALT1 hook is currently at 216 characters. OCNative (talk) 03:07, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Harry T. Bagley, George R. Bagley

• ... that former Hillsboro, Oregon, mayor Harry T. Bagley worked to get a conviction overturned from a trial his brother George R. Bagley (pictured) presided over?

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 06:01, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Ammiel Hirsch. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:05, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• Refs, size and style check out OK. Hook ref. taken on good faith. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 10:36, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Lyttelton Times

• ... that James FitzGerald (pictured), the first editor of the Lyttelton Times, later founded its main competitor, The Press?

• ALT1:... that James FitzGerald (pictured), the first editor of the Lyttelton Times, later founded its main competitor, The Press, with The Press eventually winning the competition for the Christchurch market?
• Reviewed: Task Force on Childhood Obesity (diff)
• Comment: I've also written an article on the Lyttelton Times Building, but I couldn't come up with a good double hook. The building has an interesting relationship with its neighbour, Warner's Hotel. So I shall write an article for the hotel and nominate that as a double hook. I like my hooks short and snappy, but ALT1 is something that expands on the above, showing the irony of the situation. Schwede66 20:36, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 20:36, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

• Nice article, well illustrated, good hook. I've duplicated a ref and added it to the picture caption to give a more explicit sourcing for the hook. I prefer the original hook, not ALT 1 -- it's shorter, snappier. Good to go. Jheald (talk) 23:21, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Surrogate's Courthouse

• ... that the Beaux Arts exterior of the 1907 Surrogate's Courthouse in New York features no fewer than 54 sculptures of historical and allegorical figures?

• Reviewed: Black marsh turtle

Created by Station1 (talk). Self nom at 07:21, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, and facts check out. Good to go. - PKM (talk) 00:52, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Warren Matthews

• ... that Alaska Chief Justice Warren Matthews, a graduate of both Stanford and Harvard appointed by Republican Governor Jay Hammond, was the second-longest serving justice in Alaska history?

• ALT1:... that Alaska Supreme Court Justice Warren Matthews, a graduate of both Stanford and Harvard appointed by Republican Governor Jay Hammond, was the second-longest serving justice in Alaska history?
• ALT2:... that Warren Matthews, a graduate of both Stanford and Harvard appointed by Republican Governor Jay Hammond, was the second-longest serving Supreme Court justice in Alaska history?
• Reviewed: United States Senate election in Oregon, 1990 ([7])

Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 22:57, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

• Everything checks out; I prefer alternative 2. --TIAYN (talk) 20:37, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Laser Clay Shooting System

• ... that nearly all orders for Nintendo's Laser Clay Shooting System were canceled as a result of the 1973 oil crisis, plunging the company ¥5 billion into debt?

5x expanded by MuZemike (talk). Self nom at 22:39, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Dieter Schenk. –MuZemike 22:45, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
• 5x expansion verified. Date, length OK. However, the entire article is based on one source. Per Rule D12, unless this is an obscure topic, there should be more than one reference. Could you source any details to any other references? Yoninah (talk) 21:02, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

• I tried to add a few additional web sources (hopefully they're reliable enough, as pickings are slim) and tried to expand a bit on whether or not Duck Hunt was part of this series of games. (diff: [8]) –MuZemike 00:28, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Great! Offline hook ref AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 09:52, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Tasmanian Pygmy Possum

• ... that the Tasmanian pygmy possum is the world's smallest species of possum?

• Reviewed: Lotti Golden ([9])

5x expanded by Anaxial (talk). Self nom at 21:09, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

• good to go--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 00:10, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Brevivulva

• ... that the extinct Eocene parasitic wasp Brevivulva electroma (pictured) was named from the Greek words meaning "short amber wrapper"?

5x expanded by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 20:58, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go.--VictoriousGastain (talk) 16:37, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Decuriasuchus

Lincoln Thornton Manuscript

• ... that the Lincoln Thornton Manuscript, compiled around 1430-1440 by an amateur scribe and country gentleman, contains the only extant copies of Sir Degrevant and the Alliterative Morte Arthure?

Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 19:04, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Peter Orno. Drmies (talk) 19:12, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length good. Agf for offline sources. Well-written. External links heading should be removed if exlinks are not in the offing. The Interior (Talk) 21:12, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks. I removed it--they are not in the offing. I had hoped to find some online text or entry. Drmies (talk) 00:30, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Russian police reform

• ... that under the ongoing Russian police reform, the name of Russia's law enforcers was changed from "militia" to "police"?

Created by Nanobear (talk). Self nom at 18:17, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Tierra del Fuego National Park.[10] Nanobear (talk) 10:01, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length OK. But where is the source for the hook ref? Yoninah (talk) 09:55, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Sorry, I forgot it. Here are two example sources: [11][12]. Thank you for reviewing my nomination. Nanobear (talk) 14:35, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks. Hook ref verified. I took out the date in the hook to make it punchier; the hook says "ongoing", which makes it current. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 16:29, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Monte do Gozo

• ... that Monte do Gozo (pictured), a hill in Spain, is most known for its view of a sight below, a view that is now largely obscured?

• Reviewed Gyanvapi Mosque

Created by Wasted Time R (talk). Self nom at 17:34, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go. Date, length, hook and ref, offline refs - all check out. Looks good. Maile66 (talk) 18:54, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Church of St Mary the Virgin, Fordwich

• ... that the Fordwich stone in the Church of St Mary (pictured) in Fordwich, Kent, may have been part of the shrine of Saint Augustine of Canterbury?

• Reviewed: Hamburger Feuerkasse

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 17:24, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

All checks out. Moonraker2 (talk) 18:49, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Length, date and hook seem fine. A well written article. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:03, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

George M. Willing

• ... that as an unelected Congressional delegate from Jefferson Territory, George M. Willing claimed to have created the word "Idaho" as a name for Colorado?

• Reviewed: Sierra Gorda ([13])

5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 15:17, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

• Length (>5x expansion), date verified. Hook's offline ref accepted AGF. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:46, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Gyanvapi Mosque

• ... that Gyanvapi Mosque in Varanasi, built on the site of the original Kashi Vishwanath temple, still shows evidence of the temple in its foundation, columns, and rear?

Created by Lordofallhearts (talk). Nominated by Redtigerxyz (talk) at 13:53, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

• I've got some doubts about the article's weighting – there is more about than original temple and its destruction than the current mosque, and the picture of the new temple is bigger than the picture of the mosque. The article still needs a good copyedit for MoS conformance, and the references formatting could be improved. But the article creation and length and hook length check out, and it's an interesting and important subject, so I guess it's a borderline okay. I've tweaked the hook for proper grammar. Wasted Time R (talk) 15:12, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Hamburger Feuerkasse

• ... that Hamburger Feuerkasse was the first official fire insurance company established in the world?

• Reviewed House of Taga (Mariana Islands) and Rota Latte Stone Quarry (Mariana Islands) (diff) Doug Coldwell ^talk 13:41, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 13:18, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook OK. Offline ref AGF. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 17:16, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Peter Orno

Withdrawn and moved to April Fool's DYK following suggestion by EdJohnson.  Kiefer.Wolfowitz  (Discussion) 14:15, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 3

Kommilitonen!

• ... that Sir Peter Maxwell Davies’s new opera about student activism, Kommilitonen!, was intended to be performed by students?

Created by GuillaumeTell (talk). Self nom at 15:39, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Child sexual abuse in New York City religious institutions --GuillaumeTell 17:09, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good. Antony–22 (^talk⁄_contribs) 01:41, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Wildlife of Botswana

• ... that 84% of Botswana is covered by the Kalahari Desert (pictured), a flat terrain known as "thirstland" in the wildlife of Botswana that borders with South Africa, Namibia and Angola?

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 01:39, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• Comment. Delayed by few hours. Hope it would be acceptable.--Nvvchar. 01:39, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Wheeler Opera House.--Nvvchar. 01:52, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

John Bennett Fenn

• ... that John Fenn, winner of the 2002 Nobel Prize in Chemistry and his colleagues at Monsanto "practically bathed" in PCBs during the early 1940s?

5x expanded by Canada Hky (talk). Self nom at 03:47, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Nikolai Ryzhkov

Length, date and hook check outThelmadatter (talk) 14:57, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Wheeler Opera House

• ... that Kate Hudson made her stage debut in Alice in Wonderland at the Wheeler Opera House (pictured) in Aspen, Colorado, while still a student in elementary school?

• ALT1:... that the original walk-in safe from a bank that once occupied the first floor of the Wheeler Opera House (pictured) in Aspen, Colorado, is still on display in the lobby?
• ALT2:... that the Wheeler Opera House (pictured) was the first property in Aspen, Colorado, to be listed on the National Register of Historic Places?
• Reviewed: Warner's Hotel, Lyttelton Times Building ([14])

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 00:14, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• . Length, date, hook references and img verified. I prefer ALT1 Hook.--Nvvchar. 01:49, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

So do I. I just modified the hook to reflect some improved sourcing I found. Daniel Case (talk) 05:21, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

No problem. --Nvvchar. 09:57, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Warner's Hotel, Lyttelton Times Building

• ... that Warner's Hotel in Christchurch demolished its northern end and built a theatre in its place to shield its patrons from the noise of the printing presses in the adjacent Lyttelton Times Building (buildings pictured)?

• Reviewed: Harness racing in Finland ([15])
• Comment: The Warner's Hotel article isn't quite finished yet (needs another section, infobox plus photos), but it meets DYK criteria by now and I'll have to get the nomination in, so that the Lyttelton Times Building article doesn't get too old. Update – the article is finished for the time being, but I haven't been able to get a modern photo of Warner's as yet, and it's located within the earthquake no go zone, so I can't take one myself.

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 20:16, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Length, history and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 00:05, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Spirit Fruit Society

• ... that the Spirit Fruit Society is considered to have existed longer and more successfully than any other utopian group in the United States?

Created by Wikipelli (talk). Self nom at 13:48, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• < 5 DYK credits but I'll try my hand at reviewing here in a bit Wikipelli ^Talk 13:54, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
• Reviewed William F. Yardley [16]

• Great. Perhpas the photo of the founder could even be used as an image here. Antony–22 (^talk⁄_contribs) 18:54, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

I was saving that for the forthcoming article on the founder. :) Wikipelli ^Talk 21:16, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Chamcook Lake

• ... that in 1886, 200,000 salmon and salmon trout fry (young trout) were deposited in the Chamcook Lake (Pictured) in New Brunswick?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 09:45, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Added an img of the lake.--Nvvchar. 14:41, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Archaeological Museum of the American University of Beirut ♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:06, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Looks good! Are you going to write the red linked articles sometime? Buggie111 (talk) 00:33, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Hopefully, yes in the near future.--Nvvchar. 23:20, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Central Organising Committee, Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) Party Unity, Mazdoor Kisan Sangram Samiti

• ... in the Indian state of Bihar, pressure from communist Party Unity guerrillas forced the upper-caste paramilitary Bhoomi Sena to surrender to the peasant organisation MKSS?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 02:08, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Length, age and reference for hook all check out. Just minor quibble: I don't see where the citation for the third sentence in the lede supports it, but the sentence isn't critical to any thing in the article (and this article is otherwise well sourced). -- Donald Albury 12:58, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Edward Litt Laman Blanchard, The Town (newspaper)

• ... that Edward Litt Laman Blanchard began writing for The Town when he was 17 years of age?

5x expanded/created by Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 20:43, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Daniel J. Kremer.

• expansion/creation, date, length, sources fine. Consider to describe the writer a bit more in the hook for those who don't know him yet, I first thought he was a newspaper person. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:36, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• Good point, how about: ALT1... that Edward Litt Laman Blanchard, who later became a prominent writer for the Drury Lane pantomime, began writing for The Town when he was 17 years of age? Qrsdogg (talk) 15:33, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• Fine, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:51, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Wildlife of Cape Verde

• ... that the wildlife of Cape Verde covers one of the world's top ten coral reef Biodiversity hotspots?

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 13:09, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed John Ward (prophet).--Nvvchar. 13:30, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Massive expansion and date OK. But I'm concerned by the term "hot spot". I know hooks are supposed to be quizzical, but IMO this goes too far. The article does say what the hook says, but doesn't explain the term. By going to the reference, and searching, I discovered it means a biodiversity hotspot, (not a volcanic, or a temperature-determined, or any other sort of "hot spot"). May I suggest that, so far as DYK is concerned, it is linked to "biodiversity hotspot", and that the term is fully explained in the article. And a trifle; the image is not that of a "coral reef" --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 18:03, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for the review. I have removed the image from the main hook and also added the word "biodiversity hotspot", instead of only 'hotspot'. Similar change has been made in the article also. However, since I could not locate an img of the coral reef from Cape Verde, I am proposing an alt hook with an img of Acacia tree from the Cape Verde area.

• ALT 1... that plantation of three million tree species of pine, oak, sweet chestnut and acacia (pictured) is being done every year, as part of reforestation efforts in the Wildlife of Cape Verde?--Nvvchar. 08:39, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but I'm going to be pedantic again. I don't think it's three million tree species (are there that many?) but rather three million trees. Would you accept the following (also tightened a bit)?

• ALT 2... that three million trees, including pine, oak, sweet chestnut and acacia (pictured), are being planted every year as part of reforestation efforts in Cape Verde? --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:29, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• Oh! what an obvious and silly error. Your ALT 2 hook suggestion is fine. Thanks. --Nvvchar. 17:00, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

for ALT 2. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 14:24, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

John Ward (prophet)

• ... that preacher John "Zion" Ward was jailed for blasphemy in 1832, prompting a petition to Parliament by Henry Hunt, and a speech in the House of Commons by MP Joseph Hume?

Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 09:46, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Khanfar, Abyan. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:48, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Yes No problems, ready for DYK. --Nvvchar. 13:28, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Hospital Tobar García

• ... that Hospital Tobar García is the only facility in the federated capital of Buenos Aires that specializes in mental illness in children and adolescents?

Created by Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 02:43, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Museum of Lebanese Prehistory
• Date, length, references, and hook check out.--TIAYN (talk) 15:40, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Bizarre silk

• ... that bizarre silks of the early 18th century feature "some of the most extraordinary shapes to be introduced into silk design" before the development of Art Nouveau?

Created by PKM (talk). Self nom at 00:42, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed Surrogate's Courthouse [17] - PKM (talk) 00:59, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• • Date, length, and hook all verified. Offline source accepted in good faith. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 00:50, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Codex Sangallensis 1395

• ... that the Codex Sangallensis 1395 (pictured) is one of the oldest manuscripts of the Vulgate?

• Reviewed: Zenith Productions ([18])

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 23:07, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, references, and hook check out.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Trust Is All You Need (talk • contribs) 15:41, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Jenny Silver

• ... that singer Jenny Silver (pictured) debuted with the Swedish dance band Candela, when it was signed to Bert Karlsson's label Mariann Grammofon?

--BabbaQ (talk) 17:42, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed:Hurricane Hiki.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:45, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

• Hook OK, length OK. DYK ready.--VictoriousGastain (talk) 17:47, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Ädelfors folkhögskola

• ... that in the Swedish town Holsbybrunn in Vetlanda county, the Älderfors folk-school teaches persons with special needs, such as persons with disabilities?

expanded 5x by --BabbaQ (talk) 13:09, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go. DYK ready.--VictoriousGastain (talk) 16:36, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

• • I'm not so sure. Teaching people with special needs is teaching people with difficulties or disabilities, so the hook is saying the same thing twice. How about

Alt 1

• that the special needs school, Älderfors folk-school in Holsbybrunn, Sweden, teaches classes such as computer game design and the Russian language? Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 22:15, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

I will support the original hook. A folkhögskola is not a per say special needs school.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:19, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

The article is an unsuccessful translation from Swedish to English. Extensive copy-editing for grammar and context is needed.  Kiefer.Wolfowitz  (Discussion) 13:33, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Fixes made.--BabbaQ (talk) 13:48, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Craig F. Stowers

• ... that Alaska Supreme Court Justice Craig F. Stowers worked as a park ranger before he earned his Juris Doctor from UC Davis School of Law?

• Reviewed: HMS Esk (H15) ([19])

Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 02:16, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go. MacMed^talk_stalk 14:50, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Soviet War Memorial (Vienna)

• ... that the Heroes' Monument of the Red Army in Vienna was built to commemorate 17,000 Soviet soldiers who fell in the Vienna Offensive of World War II?

• Reviewed: Blockade of Wonsan

Created/expanded by Leidseplein (talk). Self nom at 05:42, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

inline citation immediately after the hook fact is needed. MisterBee1966 (talk) 11:48, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, a cite there has been added.Leidseplein (talk) 13:14, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

looks good MisterBee1966 (talk) 14:28, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Zenith Productions

• ... that Zenith Productions, which produced Inspector Morse, was later also responsible for Ant & Dec's SMTV Live?

• Reviewed: Lyttelton Times ([20])

Created by Jheald (talk) 19:31, 3 April 2011 (UTC). Self nom at 19:30, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

• Length is OK, hook is verified, but it needs more references. Even paragraph with Inspector Morse is unreferenced. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 22:59, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

• Okay, I've added some more refs. The corporate business side should now be pretty comprehensively referenced. As for the various tv series, the ultimate verifiability there is from the end credits of the various works. But they can also all be confirmed through the IMDB and the BFI links given at the end of the article -- each film or series I have cited is attributed to Zenith on both databases. Jheald (talk) 00:14, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Every paragraph should be referenced. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 01:40, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Neither WP:DYK nor WP:DYKAR makes that requirement. Normal policy, WP:V, requires everything to be verifiable. I have just explained how those paragraphs are verifiable. Jheald (talk) 07:16, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Good for me. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 16:18, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

John Jympson

• ... that editor John Jympson was fired during production of Star Wars because director George Lucas disliked his rough cut of the film?

• Reviewed: Justine Thornton ([21])

Created by Gran2 (talk). Self nom at 09:16, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good. --candle•wicke 11:14, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 4

Long Island serial killer

• ... that the Long Island serial killer is an unidentified suspected serial killer who is believed to have murdered as many as eight people and dumped their bodies along the Ocean Parkway, New York?

--BabbaQ (talk) 14:51, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• Sources given do not mention that first victim was found in 2007.

So removed the unsourced.--BabbaQ (talk) 10:38, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Pneumatic Institution

• ... that Lady Spencer and a famous inventor tried to convince a president to support an establishment where hallucinogenic drugs were administered for free, and that another inventor actually inhaled?

Created by Nczempin (talk). Self nom at 08:23, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: None, first ever DYK.

What's with all the Easter egg links? The one I find most questionable is the "a president": a president of what? if this aims to get clicks because readers may think it's a "president of the US" or something, then it doesn't really seem okay. Banks' wasn't a political office, as the hook seems to suggest - he was President of the Royal Society. Dahn (talk) 15:03, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

They were all done on purpose, to make the reader curious about what's behind them. I seem to recall having seen several DYKs like that (the only ones usually that drew my attention), so I wasn't aware that they violate some guideline. Please point me to the place that says that this style is discouraged. The hook doesn't suggest a political office; a PRS is a president. -- Nczempin (talk) 15:13, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

And to quote from the DYK guidelines: When you write the DYK item (or "hook") please make it "hooky", that is, short, punchy, catchy, and likely to draw the readers in to wanting to read the article. An interesting hook is more likely to draw in a variety of readers. -- Nczempin (talk) 15:18, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

In case you didn't realize, Lady Spencer was also a deliberate mislead. -- Nczempin (talk) 15:22, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Punchy, yes. Catchy, yes. But misleading? We only use this kind of hook on April 1. Are you sure you're not referring to those April Fool hooks as your precedent? Dahn (talk) 20:15, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

None of the hook's claims are wrong; they are factually accurate. Perhaps hallucinogenic drugs is not entirely accurate, I am not an expert in these things. Recreational drugs or party drugs would perhaps be more precise, and backed up by sources. I am only misleading people who think the only presidents in the world are US government ones, and perhaps the fewer people who equate Lady Spencer with Diana, and I am not doing it in a malicious way. Actually inhaled is an obvious reference (and quite harmless; honni soit qui mal y pense to connect that to the other president), just as it is an unassailable fact, and a surprising and perhaps important piece of medical history, that in its beginnings, some researchers actually tried some of the subjects of their study. I still haven't found the part of the guidelines that says that DYKs cannot be a humorous, even outside April Fools (the probability that I have seen only those is extremely low, probably less than 1/365). So unless you point me to it, can we please continue with the regular day-to-day work here now? If you have an alternate proposal for the hook, let's hear it. -- Nczempin (talk) 20:40, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

ALT 1: ... that inventor James Watt tried to convince the Royal Society to support an establishment where nitrous oxide was administered for free, and that another inventor actually inhaled?

I'm sure several things can be worked out that are also interesting without ambivalence (the article is interesting!); the alt is just one option derived from your original hook. Regards, Dahn (talk) 08:47, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Additional_rules#Rules_of_thumb_for_preparing_updates: J7: Consider picking at least one funny or quirky hook if there is one available and putting it in the last (bottom) slot of the update. Just as serious news programs end on an upbeat note to bring viewers back next time, ending on an upbeat or quirky note rounds an update off nicely and encourages readers to come back next time for more. Personally, I'd like to see more quirky or funny hooks, including (non-malicious) misdirects. -- Nczempin (talk) 09:18, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, I see that is a rule of thumb for reviewers, not for writing hooks. In my opinion, it is rather inapplicable. But in any case, I think the nuance here is that the hook itself needs to be about something fun, not that it be about something serious made to look funny. (Actually, your article is already fun and quirky without misleading people.) Dahn (talk) 12:16, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Funny and quirky hook is a direct quote, I don't see where it says what the article needs to be about. If it is a rule of thumb for reviewers, how will they ever come across them if no-one is ever supposed to write them? You are also contradicting yourself if you need the subject of the article to be fun and or quirky (which you just said it is). You think the rule is inapplicable, but don't let us know why. You seem to strongly believe that the hook is inappropriate, but offer no guidelines, only your opinion. It fine for you to offer your opinion, but please respect that others may have a different one, and that your opinion is not grounds enough to reject the hook. Can we finally close this discussion and let someone decide whether the hook fulfils the DYK criteria? -- Nczempin (talk) 13:24, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Again: there is nothing in "funny and quirky" that would imply misleading. A funny hook is generally about a verifiable but funny fact, not about something serious being worded in a funny way. I don't see how I'm infringing on anyone's opinion: I offered the alt hook, didn't I? but I do believe (and other reviewers have generally agreed with me, which is why I made note of it) that it's a slippery slope to start selling out the quality of the information presented for a number of clicks that is increased artificially, with charades. As for guidelines, you need go no further than the paragraph you cited above: "Shorter hooks are preferred to longer ones, as long as they don't misstate the article content." Dahn (talk) 14:45, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

As I've stated repeatedly, the hook is not misstating the article content. It is all correct and all sourced. It is only misleading for people who prejudge the words used to mean something very specific, when they can also mean something different. Realizing this mistake, many people will laugh at themselves for their prejudice having been exposed. It seems to be pointless to argue with you (you even managed to ignore the fact that you contradicted yourself), you have made up your mind. You have provided an alternative. I have stated my disagreement. So now let's just get on with the DYK process. Offer one of the official review results such as "too short", "unsourced" etc., with the right template, or bring some new evidence to the table, or please just let it go. -- Nczempin (talk) 15:14, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Just get WP:CONS to change the guidelines to be clearer about this topic (and April fools', etc.), and next time a discussion like this won't have to take place. -- Nczempin (talk) 15:33, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Your review of the above exchange is quite correct, and indeed it's a good idea to wait for further input. But what you present as me contradicting myself is factually wrong: your quote is from a guideline that does not addresses how hooks are written, but how written hooks are picked; the guidelines also note that the hook should not be written in such as to "misstate the article content". Incidentally, I'm not spending this time "arguing" with you - I'm stating my points for others to take note of the objections, and evaluate them as they see fit. Also note that I refrained from actually reviewing the hook, precisely because I don't want to make your nomination dependent on my comments. Though, obviously, I do wish something along the lines of alt 1 would be picked instead of the punchline "people will laugh at themselves" hook. Dahn (talk) 15:59, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

the hook itself needs to be about something fun, not that it be about something serious made to look funny. therefore the hook is inadequate (regardless of the part you said before this quote), because the article is serious, and the hook makes it look funny. (Actually, your article is already fun and quirky without misleading people.) Wait, now, I thought the article was serious? "People will laugh" is not a punchline, it's just an illustration that "misleading" can very well (and it certainly is the intention here) be funny/quirky, which you strongly denied. -- Nczempin (talk) 16:21, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

The first quote addressed the belief that we need to tweak hooks beyond what they say, for comedic effect. The second says that your article is about something that is interesting, maybe even funny, in any case fun, without the tweaks. I don't suggest that misleading can't be funny and quirky, just that funny and quirky in DYK should preferably not be misleading - it could also mean that, but it shouldn't mean that for practical purposes. We can lawyer about the meanings over and over again, but I think it would be better to point out where this alleged "people will laugh" directive has been already applied on DYK, other than in April Fool's hooks. Best, Dahn (talk) 17:08, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

What belief that we need to? Why is my explanation suddenly a "directive"?? Straw man much? You are entitled to your opinion that the hook is inappropriate. Anything beyond that is not constructive. If you want to reject the hook based on DYK guidelines & consensus, go ahead. I will stop watching this page now, this discussion is distracting far too much from regular DYK business; if someone has an "official" message stating something that needs to change to comply with DYK policies, it would be nice (but of course not strictly necessary) for them to notify either me on my talk page or other contributors on the article's page. -- Nczempin (talk) 17:47, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Maybe I'm wrong when I say that it is misleading when someone designs the hook wanting people to click a link in the belief that it means thing A and then "laughing at themselves" when realizing that it means B. Maybe I have been mislead into thinking that misleading means something else, not "designed to deceive or mislead either deliberately or inadvertently". It's not like wikipedia is actually striving for credibility, we just want the hits. In any case, I too am done commenting on this hook - if my counter-suggestion is worth anything, pick it up instead of the Easter egg hook. Dahn (talk) 19:59, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Henry Primrose

• ... that Sir Henry Primrose, the chairman of the Board of theInland Revenue, played two international football matches for Scotland in the 1870s?

• Reviewed: All Saints Church, Waldershare

Created by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk). Self nom at 18:17, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Symbolist movement in Romania

• ... that Romania's Symbolist movement (iconography pictured) fostered the literary careers of far right theorist Nae Ionescu, defrocked monk Tudor Arghezi and Dada co-founder Tristan Tzara?

• Reviewed: Lichtburg ([22])

Created by Dahn (talk). Self nom at 07:59, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• Date and length verified; offline references accepted on good faith. Congratulations on finally publishing this monumental achievement! - Biruitorul ^Talk 14:36, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! It took me a while to get it out of the sandbox, but I hope it helps with completing the image of Romanian culture in the good old days. Dahn (talk) 15:47, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Tell al-Fakhar

• ... that, according to the excavator, the more than 3000 year old "Green Palace" of Tell al-Fakhar in Iraq was pillaged and burned with the defenders still inside?

• Reviewed: Trofeo Alasport ([23])

Created by Zoeperkoe (talk). Self nom at 00:23, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length and hook all good to go with one offline source taken in good faith. Paul Bedson (talk) 22:55, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Arts on the Line

• ... that the artwork created for the MBTA's Red Line Northwest Extension (Alewife station pictured) cost one half of one percent of the total construction costs of the rail line?

• Reviewed: John Charles Polanyi ([24])
• Comment: Moved out of Userspace today.

Created by Found5dollar (talk). Self nom at 23:33, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

ALT 1 ... that the MBTA's Arts on the Line program, was the United States' first arts in transit program? --Found5dollar (talk) 23:33, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, references, and hook check out for both hooks. I like ALT 1 myself.--Doug Coldwell ^talk 22:45, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Confluence (sculpture)

• ... that the sculpture Confluence by Robert Stackhouse and Carol Merrit found some inspiration in the poetry of Langston Hughes?

• Reviewed: Elite 88 Award

Created by Missvain (talk). Self nom at 22:13, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good to me, but propose to mention the poem with an article and a good title:

ALT1:... that the sculpture Confluence by Robert Stackhouse and Carol Merrit was inspired by Langston Hughes' poem "The Negro Speaks of Rivers"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:26, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• That sounds good too. I wasn't so sure how much I could manipulate the words - my source cites that "some" of the writing on the sculpture was inspired by Hughes' poem. I'm quite happy with the revamp though. Missvain (talk) 13:11, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• Thank you! "Inspired" doesn't say "exclusively inspired", right? Most artists take their inspiration from multiple sources, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:08, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Law of Æthelberht

• ... that the 7th-century Law of Æthelberht, a Kentish legal text, is the earliest extant document in the English language?

Created/expanded by Deacon of Pndapetzim (talk). Self nom at 21:59, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good to me, offline source AGF. You don't have to review yet, right? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:13, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• Add: Reviewed #Penally_Abbey_and_St_Teilo.[25] Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 13:49, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Pinal de Amoles

• ... that Pinal de Amoles, Querétaro, Mexico hosts an annual national level Huapango dance competition?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 20:52, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Soybean CarThelmadatter (talk) 21:03, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
• It looks all ok to me, but the line in the article should have the non-English name in italics, and the sentence could be clarified (competition name translated/explained). Pitke (talk) 17:57, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• Given that this is Pitke's first DYK review, I thought I'd have a look, too. AGF for foreign language hook fact source. I have not attempted to understand the merge history and what should be counted as the prose size before expansion began, but it certainly is a very comprehensive article now, and Thelmadatter is an old hand here, so I assume good faith on that front, too. Schwede66 19:02, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• Hey! Who you calling "old"? :P (and get off my lawn!) hee hee heeThelmadatter (talk) 14:19, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Jones v Kaney

• ... that in Jones v Kaney, the UK Supreme Court overturned a line of authority going back 400 years to allow an expert witness to be sued for professional negligence?

Created by Bencherlite (talk). Self nom at 20:26, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed List of ICC Cricket World Cup finals.

Technically, it was nominated six days after creation, but since it was expanded five fold within five days of nomination, it can slide. Hook checks out.Thelmadatter (talk) 20:27, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Actually, DYK goes by the date that the article was moved to mainspace, not the date of creation of the draft in userspace, so there's no "technically" about this one! Bencherlite^Talk 09:14, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

West Washington Street Bridge (Muncie, Indiana)

• ... that the West Washington Street Bridge was added to the National Register of Historic Places in 2008?

Created by Lbowman1 (talk). Nominated by Guerillero (talk) at 19:23, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Along with hundreds of other places; we really shouldn't put this on the Main Page until we can find a more interesting hook. I'm up way past my bedtime, so I can't really help now, but you could try finding something unusual and adding it from the underused National Register nomination form that's currently citation #2. Nyttend (talk) 06:05, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• I am looking for an alt right now --Guerillero | My Talk | Review Me 23:19, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks! Unfortunately, this also has citation problems: no page numbers are ever provided for the nomination form citations, and we need page numbers for verifiability. Nyttend (talk) 04:32, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Alt 1 ... that due to expansion around Ball State Teachers College the West Washington Street Bridge was built to replace an existing structure?

--Guerillero | My Talk | Review Me 01:13, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• I have enough credits in the bank so I don't need to review any articles for this. --Guerillero | My Talk | Review Me 19:23, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Soybean Car

• ... that the first plastic car was manufactured by the Ford Motor Company in 1941 and was made out of soybeans?

  Alt 1... that the first car bodied entirely in plastic was manufactured by the Ford Motor Company in 1941?

  Alt 1b ... that the first car that had a body entirely of plastic was manufactured by the Ford Motor Company in 1941?

• Reviewed St John the Baptist's Church, Mongewell and St Mary (diff) --Doug Coldwell ^talk 19:06, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 18:49, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Problem is that the article itself states that the frame was of tubular steel, so it wasnt all plastic. I suggest ALT1, that the first car to use plastic panels in its construction was the Soybean Car built in 1941? Otherwise, it checks out.Thelmadatter (talk) 21:01, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Appreciate your suggestion, however I have no reference that says the first car to use plastic panels in its construction. However, I do have a reference that says: The first plastic car was manufactured by the Ford Motor Company, Dearborn, Mi, USA, in August 1941. It is in the lede and is considered an excellent reference source = Anzovin, Steven, "Famous First Facts" 2000, H. W. Wilson Company, ISBN 0-8242-0958-3. I would prefer to use my original hook, unless you have a reference for your suggestion.--Doug Coldwell ^talk 21:13, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

My Alt 1 suggested above should satisfy the requirements. Have references for that.--Doug Coldwell ^talk 21:39, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

I dont know. Is "bodied" a word? How about ALT2 ... that according to the book "Famous First Facts," the Soybean Car was the first plastic car built by Ford?Thelmadatter (talk) 20:22, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

"Bodied" is a word. The reference I am referring to is online and reads: "the car was the 1941 Ford prototype car bodied entirely in plastic, designed by Lowell Overly." I believe your Alt would give the impression that perhaps there were other plastic cars, but the first one built by Ford is what Famous First Facts is talking about. The reference source Famous First Facts is talking about the first plastic car ever built worldwide.--Doug Coldwell ^talk 20:39, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Here is the text of Famous First Facts I have uploaded to Flickr.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22738816@N07/5593526938/

--Doug Coldwell ^talk 21:33, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Thelmadatter: Here is a suggestion. Since apparently you approve the article otherwise, it appears it is just a matter of semantics on the wording of the hook. Line up your Alts, number them, and just let the DYK administrator select which one he would like amongst the Alts (yours and mine) for the actual DYK. Would you give it a tick under those conditions?--Doug Coldwell ^talk 12:52, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

for ALT 1b AGF for offline source.Thelmadatter (talk) 14:18, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

St John the Baptist's Church, Mongewell: St Mary's Church, Newnham Murren

• ... that the redundant churches of St John and St Mary (pictured) both stand near The Ridgeway long-distance path in Oxfordshire?

• Reviewed: Wildlife of Cape Verde

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 18:14, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, references, and hook check out for both articles.--Doug Coldwell ^talk 19:01, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

List of ICC Cricket World Cup finals

• ... that Lord's Cricket Ground in London has been the venue for four Cricket World Cup Finals matches?

Created by Around The Globe^{सत्यमेव जयते} 12:02, 4 April 2011 (UTC). Self nom at 11:55, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Helmuth Brinkmann [26] Around The Globe^{सत्यमेव जयते} 12:02, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
• Bencherlite^Talk 20:29, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Charles Coiner

• ... that Stanford University graduate Charles Coiner, a Republican Idaho Senator from 2004 to 2010, supported efforts to teach about Japanese-American internment in Idaho public schools?

• Reviewed: List of Men's Basketball Academic All-America Team Members of the Year, List of Women's Basketball Academic All-America Team Members of the Year, List of Football Academic All-America Team Members of the Year ([27])

Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 06:16, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, references, and hook check out.--TIAYN (talk) 15:39, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Elite 88 Award

• ... that the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) established the Elite 88 Award in 2009 to recognize the student athlete with the highest grade point average at each NCAA championship?

• Reviewed: Siege of Kolberg (1807)

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 05:59, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Indeed it does. Missvain (talk) 22:08, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Bench Around the Lake

• ... that artist Jeppe Hein created Bench Around the Lake to appear as if it tunnels in and out of the ground at the Indianapolis Museum of Art?

Created by Missvain (talk). Self nom at 05:40, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Good job, very nicely written and sourced, with a great pic. Textorus (talk) 07:19, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Nikolai Ryzhkov

Nikolai Ryzhkov

• ... that Nikolai Ryzhkov, the Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the Soviet Union, was considered to be a conservative by radical reformers during the Gorbachev Era?

Expanded by --TIAYN (talk) 15:35, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Looking at the history, I believe this article's expansion started on March 28, not April 4, as it is nominated here. That puts it out of the five day window for eligibility. Please correct me if I have misunderstood something here. Canada Hky (talk) 03:56, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

I've reviewed the Charles Coiner article. --TIAYN (talk) 15:39, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Isn't the whole point when it ended, and not when it started? --TIAYN (talk) 04:56, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

No, from the DYK Official Rules: "Former redirects, stubs, or other short articles in which the prose portion has been expanded fivefold or more within the last five days are also acceptable as "new" articles. The content with which the article has been expanded must be new content, not text copied from other articles." Canada Hky (talk) 13:45, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Valentin Pavlov

• ... that Valentin Pavlov, the Prime Minister of the Soviet Union and de facto Chairman of the Cabinet of Ministers, was involved in the 1991 Soviet coup d'état attempt against Mikhail Gorbachev?

Created/expanded by --TIAYN (talk) 15:35, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Hospital Tobar García --TIAYN (talk) 15:40, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Major expansion of article by nom April 3-4. Everything looks properly referenced. Article headshot (which wasn't submitted) is non-free so don't put that on the front page. The issue I have here is the use of the titles Premier and Prime Minister in the hook and the lead of the article. Are they equivalents? The use of the phrase "Prime Minister of the Soviet Union, literally the Premier of the Soviet Union" doesn't get that across clearly. If they are the same thing, my opinion is that we should just go with Premier of the Soviet Union since that's what the WP article is called. If there's a difference, it needs to be spelled out. Gamaliel (talk) 22:15, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

The office was renamed Prime Minister on 14 January 1991 when Pavlov was head of government. His predecessor was Chairman of the Council of Ministers, a post commonly referred to as Premier, and his successor Ivan Silayev was Premier through the office of Chairman of the Interstate Economic Committee (IEC). I like the use of Prime Minister in the article but if you don't like it's inclusion in the DYK sentence it's fine. --TIAYN (talk) 04:53, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up. In the DYK hook we should use Prime Minister since that was Pavlov's title. I see you've edited the lead to Valentin Pavlov to eliminate the confusion I had, thanks. Gamaliel (talk) 06:59, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

A thought: would you be opposed to a slightly shorter hook like "that Valentin Pavlov, the Prime Minister of the Soviet Union, was involved in the 1991 Soviet coup d'état attempt against Mikhail Gorbachev? Gamaliel (talk) 07:00, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

You're one is good, maybe even better, then my one; my only wish is to get this article to the main page, if you see a problem with the hook please fix it. In short; I approve of your change! :) --TIAYN (talk) 13:07, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Ivan Silayev

• ... that Ivan Silayev was the last Premier of the Soviet Union?

Expanded by --TIAYN (talk) 15:35, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Warren Matthews --TIAYN (talk) 20:38, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 16:21, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 5

A Night of Neglect

• ... when trying to clear a Björk song for an upcoming episode, the creators of Glee initially could not reach her as she apparently did not have a telephone number?

• Reviewed: Gare de la Bastille ([28])

5x expanded by Yvesnimmo (talk). Self nom at 05:27, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Ferris Jennings

• ... that 140-pound quarterback Ferris Jennings scored the lone touchdown of the 1934 season for a Michigan Wolverines football team that also featured future U.S. President Gerald Ford?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 04:34, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed Dickshooter, Idaho. Cbl62 (talk) 17:11, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• Length and date are fine, but the hook is a bit long at 180 characters. I don't think it needs to say that he was 140 pounds. But the real problem is that the source says it was the only touchdown from scrimmage, and that there were two touchdowns scored that year. StAnselm (talk) 13:33, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• One of the off-line newspaper sources did say that Jennings' score was the sole touchdown, but it turns out to be incorrect. Jennings' score was the first of two touchdowns scored by Michigan in 1934. I had included the weight, because 140 pounds is extraordinarily small for a QB, and he was often called "Little" Ferris Jennings. But in light of your points, I suggest the following alt hook:

• ... that quarterback Ferris Jennings ran 66 yards for the first of only two touchdowns scored all year by the 1934 Michigan football team that also featured future U.S. President Gerald Ford? Cbl62 (talk) 17:47, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• Yes, the alternate hook is fine. And the Ford connection makes it interesting. StAnselm (talk) 23:08, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Heinz-Otto Schultze

• ... that the World War II U boat commander Heinz-Otto Schultze was the son of the World War I U boat commander Otto Schultze?

5x expanded by MisterBee1966 (talk). Self nom at 12:53, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: The Miami Showband MisterBee1966 (talk) 15:17, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• The second article has only 763 characters in prose. It needs also more references. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 18:27, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• done full citation MisterBee1966 (talk) 18:51, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• OK, but the first article is 4,8 expanded (it needs about 115 characters). I did not count this article before. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 19:31, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Next try, expanded some more MisterBee1966 (talk) 19:58, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 20:24, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

The Miami Showband

• ... that five members of the popular Irish band The Miami Showband were shot in an ambush by the Ulster Volunteer Force at a bogus military checkpoint in Northern Ireland?

Created by Ghmyrtle (talk). Nominated by Jeanne boleyn (talk) at 07:29, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go, size and sources okay MisterBee1966 (talk) 15:15, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Roger Locher

• ... that 1st Lt. Roger Locher's F-4 was shot down during the Vietnam War within 64km of Hanoi, and his rescue 23 days later was the furthest penetration of an American search and rescue into North Vietnam?

ALT1

• ... that the 23 days 1st Lt. Roger Locher spent behind enemy lines evading capture before his rescue was a record, and his rescue was the deepest inside North Vietnam during the Vietnam War? Created by Btphelps (talk). Self nom at 02:02, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Health in Ghana here. — btphelps ^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:39, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Rescue of Bat 21 Bravo

• ... that the Rescue of Bat 21 Bravo, the call sign for airman Iceal Hambleton, from behind enemy lines was the largest, longest, and most complex search-and-rescue operation during the entire Vietnam War?

Created by Btphelps (talk). Self nom at 22:47, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that during the 11½ day Rescue of Bat 21 Bravo, airman Iceal Hambleton, from behind enemy lines that five aircraft were shot down, 11 other airmen died, 2 were captured, and one other had to be rescued?

• ALT2: ... that during the 11½ day Rescue of Bat 21 Bravo, navigator Iceal Hambleton, the Americans flew an average of 90 sorties a day to protect him, hitting the NVA with over 800 air strikes in direct support of his rescue?

• ALT3: ... that during the Rescue of Bat 21 Bravo, airman Iceal Hambleton, Navy SEAL Thomas R. Norris and ARVN commando Nguyen Van Kiet spent four days infltrating more than 2km behind enemy lines to rescue him?

Reviewed Colin Campbell Cooper [29] — btphelps ^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:05, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

George Thomson (physician)

• ... that pamphleteer George Thomson criticized his fellow physicians for fleeing London during the great plague, when the city most needed them?

Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 10:42, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: "... that English physician George Thomson's splenectomy experiment challenged the medical theory of Humorism?"
• ALT2: "... that English physician George Thomson criticized medicine in the 17th century for excessive use of bloodletting and purging?"

• Reviewed Harry T. Bagley, George R. Bagley. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 10:56, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length and hook all check out. I added a period to the end of one of the paragraphs. Other than that, a solid article and intriguing hook – though consider maybe "just when the city needed them most" for the conclusion. Either way great.—Biosketch (talk) 11:38, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Maud Gage Baum

• ... that Maud Gage Baum forced her husband to eat stale doughnuts because he did not confer with her prior to buying many of them?

• Reviewed: German destroyer Z8 Bruno Heinemann ([30])

Created by Cunard (talk). Self nom at 07:29, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• All good. AGF ref. well-referenced, 24kb article. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 11:18, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

William F. Yardley

• ... that William F. Yardley was the first African American candidate for governor of Tennessee and is believed to have been the first African American attorney to argue before the state's supreme court?

Created by Bms4880 (talk). Nominated by Orlady (talk) at 02:43, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, and hook look good. I'd be happier if we knew for sure if he was the first African American to argue before the TN Supreme Court. Is that an issue for DYK? (first time DYK reviewer so if someone wants to backstop me.. :) ) Wikipelli ^Talk 15:40, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• As you probably know from checking the source, the cited source is not definite. I don't think anyone knows for sure. This source identifies another African American, John Sinclair Lewis, as "reportedly" being the first admitted to practice before the state supreme court, and yet another (Thomas Frank Cassels) as "apparently the first African-American lawyer admitted to practice before the state Supreme Court in West Tennessee," but it has no details on whether they actually argued before the state supreme court. --Orlady (talk) 16:12, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Works for me. I think it's good to go. Nice article, too. Wikipelli (talk) 03:11, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Just as a note, being admitted to practice before a state's highest court means you are admitted to practice, or have passed the bar in that state. It is not the same with arguing a case in front of that court. So if the source says that Yardley was the first, and the other two were just admitted to practice there and probably never argued a case before it. If you need me to look at it further, drop me a note.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:18, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Health in Ghana

• ... that in Ghanian women's health, breast cancer is the leading malignacy and maternal mortality is 23.7%?

5x expanded by Sadads (talk), Als242 (talk). Self nom at 01:16, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Note: Some of the content for this article was copied from other articles, but a vast majority of it was written today for the expansion of this article, and the subsequent need to expand the related articles. Also, this is well over 10x expansion, so I don't think that should be an issue, Sadads (talk) 01:16, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Article review:Panama Creature

The size checks out and the article is generally well-written and sourced. However, the specific fact cited in the hook about maternal mortality is not supported by a reference. — btphelps ^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:24, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

The other author updated that stat, I am thinking we should modify the hook, how about "... that in Ghanian women's health, breast cancer is the leading malignacy and HIV/AIDS affects 140,000 women?", 92.14.184.150 (talk) 20:54, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

effects->affects. -- Nczempin (talk) 10:16, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Fixed above, and that was me on the ip previously, Sadads (talk) 21:00, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Panama Creature

• ... that, despite speculation that the Panama Creature was an alien life form, it was later shown to be a decomposing Brown-throated Sloth?

Created by J Milburn (talk). Self nom at 22:54, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Amicable Society for a Perpetual Assurance Office. J Milburn (talk) 00:33, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Looks good to me, new article, sources, and length check out, Sadads (talk) 03:18, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Amicable Society for a Perpetual Assurance Office

• ... that the first life insurance company was founded in 1706?

Reviewed Arts on the Line (diff) --Doug Coldwell ^talk 22:50, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 22:22, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good to go. J Milburn (talk) 00:32, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

E.E. Aiken

• ... that missionary E. E. Aiken was a member of Skull and Bones at Yale in 1881 and the next year wrote a book denouncing such secret societies?

Created by Gamaliel (talk). Self nom at 22:19, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Valentin Pavlov. Gamaliel (talk) 22:21, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• Date and hook OK, but length is too short at 1279 characters by my count. Needs a tiddly bit of expansion. Paul Bedson (talk) 22:46, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

I got 1517 with the tool. I'll see what I can do about expanding it a bit. Gamaliel (talk) 22:55, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

I think it may be long enough now. Gamaliel (talk) 04:27, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• That looks fine now, with offline references accepted in good faith. Paul Bedson (talk) 13:47, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Jardín del Arte Sullivan

• ... that the Jardín del Arte Sullivan art market in Mexico City does not permit works with political or religious themes?

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 20:17, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviews Jones v KaneyThelmadatter (talk) 20:27, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 00:50, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Harness racing in Finland

• ... that until 1959, the Finnhorse (pictured) was the only horse breed allowed to be raced in Finland?

Created by Pitke (talk). Self nom at 17:45, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• This is my first DYK nom, but I attempted reviewing anyway. [31] Pitke (talk) 17:58, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Welcome to DYK. That's a solid effort with your first nomination. You'll find that there are quite a few rules, but once you get your head around things, you'll find that with work of your quality, you'll fly through the process. Here are a few tips and pointers:

• You could consider using Template:NewDYKnomination/guide for nominating the next article. That will help you getting the formatting right (the target article should be in bold, for example (have fixed that), it steps you through the process of adding pictures to your nomination, and it gives some pointers regarding what to say when you've moved articles from your user space).
• A DYK requirement is that every paragraph (with the exception of the lead) should have at least one reference, so you will have to add a few more.

• *groaaaaannnnnn* source for "Finnhorse is the only coldblood breed raced in Finland" or "coldblood races in Finland, unless otherwise specified, are open to coldblood breeds other than the Finnhorse"? Impossible! I've complained about this at the talk page of Finnhorse: the breed is the fastest coldblood breed but just try and find a source that bothers with saying "Finnhorses are fast". Cut it. Pitke (talk) 18:59, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• Bare URLs are not accepted. I suggest you use the citation templates that you get with your editor tool bar (click on the cite link and then use the drop down box 'Templates'; replace the bare URLs using this tool). If you need a hand with this, contact me on my talk page.

• Done. Pitke (talk) 19:09, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• There needs to be a reference immediately after the hook fact in the article (none there at present).

• Fixed. Ok now? Pitke (talk) 18:59, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• Other than that, the article is new and long enough.

Good work! Those issues above will be easy to fix. Schwede66 18:40, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Offline and foreign language source accepted in good faith. Schwede66 21:00, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Cornish fairings

• ... that traditionally Cornish fairings (pictured) were sold at fairs for young men to give to their sweethearts?

5x expanded by Worm That Turned (talk). Self nom at 12:09, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed gullible Worm^TT · (talk) 12:16, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
• delicious expansion, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:04, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Daniel J. Kremer

• ... that Presiding Justice Daniel J. Kremer, appointed to the California Court of Appeal by Republican Governor George Deukmejian, was captain of the Stanford University debate team?

• ALT1:... that after the California Court of Appeal accidentally treated a teenager's letter as a formal appeal, Justice Daniel J. Kremer wrote a unanimous opinion overturning the boy's speeding ticket fine?
• ALT2:... that California Appellate Justice Daniel J. Kremer issued rulings regarding a teenager's traffic ticket, insurance in space exploration, and a woman's attempt to steal her son from his gay father?
• ALT3:... that California Appellate Justice Daniel J. Kremer issued rulings blocking Cox Cable equipment installation and granting child custody to a man after his in-laws used "inexcusable" tactics?
• ALT4:... that California Appellate Justice Daniel J. Kremer upheld a $1,700,000 judgment against the UFW and also declared a city was not negligent in a surfer's death by not calling off-duty lifeguards?
• Reviewed: Xenoclea ([32])

Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 09:15, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, and sources check out fine. My preference is for ALT1, although they're all pretty good. I'm not sure if we should use the word "accidentally" in the hook though. Qrsdogg (talk) 20:36, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Ronald Singson

• ... that a week after co-producing an Usher concert in the Philippines, Representative Ronald Singson was jailed in Hong Kong for alleged drug trafficking?

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 07:56, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

No problems from what I can see. Interesting hook! Deyyaz ^{[ Talk | Contribs ]} 23:47, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Archaeological Museum of the American University of Beirut

• ... that the Archaeological Museum of the American University of Beirut (pictured) is the third oldest museum in the Near East?

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 23.59, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed E.E. Aiken Paul Bedson (talk) 23:02, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Verified, but can you please convert the bullet list into prose?♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:05, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Sure thing, converted as suggested. Paul Bedson (talk) 00:00, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Sands of Beirut

• ... that Tell Arslan in the Sands of Beirut was the oldest known neolithic village settlement in the Beirut area?

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 23.59, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Tell al-Fakhar Paul Bedson (talk) 23:02, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• The date, the length are verified. Offline hook source is verified assuming good faith.--Mbz1 (talk) 04:08, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Leslie Bethell

• ... that when he was nominated to be a correspondent of the Brazilian Academy of Letters to replace the deceased José Saramago, historian Leslie Bethell was only the second English citizen ever elected to that body?

• Reviewed: Ronald Singson

Created by Deyyaz (talk). Self nom at 23:55, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• All checks out. Ready to go. Harrison49 (talk) 21:06, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on April 6

Ash-sha'ab yurid isqat an-nizam

• ... that ash-sha'ab yurid isqat an-nizam ('the people want the fall of the regime') was the most common slogan in graffiti during the 2011 Egyptian Revolution?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:25, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Henry Thomson (painter)

• ... that the first painting exhibited at the Royal Academy by Henry Thomson (pictured) was of Daedalus fastening wings on his son Icarus?

• Reviewed: Sture Murders (diff)

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 11:47, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• DYK ready.--VictoriousGastain (talk) 21:55, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Direct lobbying

• ... that the total amount spent on lobbying in the United States in 2010 was $3.49 billion?

• Comment: Reviewed Climate of the Falkland Islands [33]

Created by Chlopeck (talk), Vert3x (talk), Crawf279 (talk). Nominated by Bejinhan (talk) at 05:42, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Janbirdi al-Ghazali

• ... that the first Ottoman governor of Syria, Janbirdi al-Ghazali, revolted against Ottoman rule two years into his reign?

Created by Al Ameer son (talk). Self nom at 05:28, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Elizabeth J. Feinler

• ... that Elizabeth J. Feinler (pictured) who ran the Network Information Center of the Internet until 1989, was better known as "Jake"?

Created by W163 (talk). Nominated by W Nowicki (talk) at 21:04, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• Has she died or is she no longer better known as Jake? -- Nczempin (talk) 10:13, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Neither (that I know of). Just retired I think. Not sure if your point is if the article should be used by her common name? She used "Elizabeth" in formal documents so I would say keep it. However, the hook could probably be refined to be less ambiguous (using past tense). At least add a comma after 1989. How about:

ALT1 ... that Elizabeth J. Feinler (pictured), better known as "Jake", ran the Network Information Center of the Internet until 1989?

W Nowicki (talk) 17:25, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Ernst Cadman Colwell

• ... that Ernst Cadman Colwell recognized an extraordinary textual degree between Minuscule 2427 and Codex Vaticanus?

• Reviewed: Piper's Opera House (Virginia City, Nevada) ([34])

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 18:42, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Jean-François-Auguste Moulin

• ... that Jean-François-Auguste Moulin was one of the last two holdouts in the French Directory to resist Napoleon Bonaparte's seizure of power?

5x expanded by SteveStrummer (talk). Self nom at 05:10, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Charles W. Cansler, Austin-East High School

• ... that, to raise money for the all-black high school where he was principal, Charles W. Cansler sometimes held demonstrations of his ability to calculate large columns of numbers faster than adding machines?

Created by Bms4880 (talk), Orlady (talk). Nominated by Orlady (talk) at 03:34, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed nom for Hollingworth Magniac (diff=[35]) --Orlady (talk) 03:50, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good. Of the three references used for the hook, one is offline, but the other two check out. Apterygial ^talk 08:02, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Peñamiller

• ... that Peñamiller, Querétaro, Mexico is promoted as the gateway to the Sierra Gorda?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 15:36, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Daytona Cubs from March 24

Hotel Plaza Grande

• ... that the Hotel Plaza Grande was the first formal hotel to be established in Quito, Ecuador when it began as the Majestic Hotel in 1943?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Dream Focus (talk). Self nom at 12:33, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Allison H. Eid

• ... that Colorado Supreme Court Justice Allison H. Eid met her husband Troy in a Stanford University cafeteria when she was a food service worker and he was editor-in-chief of The Stanford Daily?

• ALT1:... that Republican Governor Bill Owens appointed Allison H. Eid to the Colorado Supreme Court the same year President George W. Bush appointed her husband Troy to be the U.S. Attorney for Colorado?
• ALT2:... that after graduating from Stanford University, Colorado Supreme Court Justice Allison H. Eid was a special assistant and speechwriter for Ronald Reagan's Education Secretary, William Bennett?
• ALT3:... that after graduating from the University of Chicago Law School, Colorado Supreme Court Justice Allison H. Eid clerked for U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas?
• Reviewed: King Cross ([36])

Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 06:06, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Charles Inglis (c. 1731–1791)

• ... that naval officer Charles Inglis (pictured) served under George Brydges Rodney in 1745 when Rodney was a captain, and again in 1782 when he was an admiral?

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 21:47, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Peter Marshall (police commissioner) [37]

• Rodney's admiral rank is mentioned in lead, unreferenced, but not in body. Please fix that, and it should be good to go (although I think the hook is not that interesting, isn't there something more inspiring in his life other than the promotion of his superior?). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 00:15, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Fixed, but Crimmin's assessment holds true - 'a capable and competent officer without being inspired or presented with fortunate opportunities'. You might try

• ... that Captain Charles Inglis (pictured) helped frustrate a planned French invasion of Britain?

• Perhaps that would make a better hook, actually. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 05:16, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• ... that Captain Charles Inglis (pictured) has been described as "a capable and competent officer without being inspired or presented with fortunate opportunities"?

This is where personal opinion comes in. I find this a far duller alternative than the original and alt. Could you confirm the article and hooks pass please? Benea (talk) 10:45, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

3rd Arizona Territorial Legislature

• ... that at the time of the 3rd Arizona Territorial Legislature‎ there were no stage coaches running in Arizona?

• Reviewed: Knoxville Riot of 1919 ([38])

Created by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 19:22, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• This one's good to go. Date of creation, length, hook and ref ok. Offline refs accepted in good faith. Maile66 (talk) 00:07, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

2011 European Under-18 Rugby Union Championship

• ... that the 2011 European Under-18 Rugby Union Championship, held in France in April 2011, marks the first time that all of the Six nations will participate in the competition?

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 17:31, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: German destroyer Z9 Wolfgang Zenker (2 April). Calistemon (talk) 17:38, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
• Length and creation date both check out. Hook fully supported by English-language references. Referencing was fine, though I took the liberty of converting all the web references to the "cite web" template—I recommend you use this template in the future. Since the one Croatian-language reference has nothing to do with the hook, everything's good to go. I also cleaned up some of the prose in the article post-nomination. — Dale Arnett (talk) 02:48, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Old Church of St Mary the Virgin, Preston Candover

• ... that all that remains of the Old Church of St Mary the Virgin in Preston Candover, Hampshire, is the chancel (pictured)?

• Reviewed: Allah Made Me Funny

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 16:29, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go. All DYK criteria check out. Maile66 (talk) 09:55, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Lyceum Theatre (Crewe)

• ... that the Lyceum Theatre (pictured) in Crewe, Cheshire, was opened in 1887, destroyed by fire in 1910, and rebuilt on the same site in 1911?

• Reviewed: Epitaphium

5x expanded by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 14:49, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• I edited the hook for clarity. Source cited is from the Lyceum Theatre's website. Would be better if there is a third-party source. Bejinhan talks 13:33, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• If I could have found another source, I would have added it; but I have no reason to doubt what the theatre's site says about itself. Why should it be unreliable? --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 16:31, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Peter Marshall (police commissioner)

• ... that new Police Commissioner of New Zealand Peter Marshall held off an invasion of his home by thirteen people in the Solomon Islands with a ceremonial sword?

• Reviewed: Union Creek (Rogue River) ([39])

Created by XLerate (talk). Self nom at 12:47, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Dates and cite checks out, this seems fine. Benea (talk) 21:41, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Racist music

• ... that racist music is considered an effective recruiting tool for the modern neo-Nazi and white supremacy movements, and a breeding ground for domestic terrorism in the United States?

Created by Jnast1 (talk). Self nom at 06:55, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed Rhodactis howesii[40] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jnast1 (talk • contribs) 07:12, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• I would suggest substituting "effective" for "great" to avoid any positive connotations of the latter. Gamaliel (talk) 07:15, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Done. Thank you for that! Jnast1 (talk) 15:01, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Length, hook and cite check out. However, the article could use a bit of work on layout (the lead is really long and most of that should go in a section). Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:52, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• Done, excellent point. Jnast1 (talk) 02:27, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Neanaperiallus

• ... that the only side of the extinct parasitic wasp Neanaperiallus visible is the left?

5x expanded by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 05:47, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Good to go. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:01, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed 1965 Pacific hurricane season for second opinion and to check added reference.--Kevmin § 05:47, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Indianapolis Art Center

• ... that the Indianapolis Art Center was founded in 1934 as a Works Progress Administration project?

Created by Missvain (talk). Self nom at 04:19, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Allah Made Me Funny

• ... that Allah Made Me Funny is a documentary featuring three American Muslim comedians?

• Reviewed: Sands of Beirut ([41])

Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 04:14, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• All DYK criteria met. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 16:23, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Lucy Aharish

• ... that in 2007 Lucy Aharish became the first Arab to present the news on mainstream Israeli television?

• Reviewed: George Thomson (physician) ([42])

Created by Biosketch (talk). Self nom at 11:50, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Good to go. Jaespinoza (talk) 17:56, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Monticello Association

• ... that in 2010 a white member of the Monticello Association was one of three Thomas Jefferson descendants given the "Search for Common Ground" award for working to heal the family's past and legacy of slavery?

5x expanded by Parkwells (talk). Self nom at 16:20, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Is this a 5 fold expansion from April 1st, to meet the 5 day Rule?--Doug Coldwell ^talk 13:39, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Did some copy editing work and added many cites, but most of the expansion took place before April 1, and I forgot to nominate it then, because of working on associated articles, mostly Thomas Jefferson.Parkwells (talk) 14:01, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go. All DYK criteria check out. --Doug Coldwell ^talk 14:08, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Measuring rod, Tablet of Shamash

Shamash delivering the measuring rod and line

• ... that a measuring rod is depicted on both the Code of Hammurabi and the Tablet of Shamash (pictured)?

• Reviewed: Thomas Cochrane, 8th Earl of Dundonald

5x expanded by Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 12:56, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• I've changed the hook slightly after making another article about the Tablet of Shamash - going for the double whammy on this one! Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 03:23, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Child sexual abuse in New York City religious institutions

• ... that two cases of child sexual abuse in New York City religious institutions have emerged in 2011 both centered in highly ranked NYC youth basketball programs and both having moved to a criminal stage due to long-ago actions which have been alleged to, or been admitted to, have happened in Massachusetts?

Created by Swliv (talk). Self nom at 05:19, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• Length of article OK, however hook is too long (306 characters instead of ~200) and rather convoluted, plus article title is not bolded. Article history says nothing except: "correcting title of recent new article; edited from prev. article". What was the title of the recent new article and where is its edit history? When was it created? --GuillaumeTell 16:51, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

The previous page & its history was deleted by an admin (per an author's G7 request), as shown here. Shearonink (talk) 17:25, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

The length may be fine but In my opinion, that's not a really appropriate topic to use. I know Wikipedia is not censored but there was an issue with something similar in the past that stopped a Big Jock Knew DYK hook being promoted. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 16:59, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• Since the edit history has been hidden from view with this G7 action, how can editors tell when the article was actually created or when it was actually expanded? Shearonink (talk) 18:39, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• It looks as if it may be possible to undelete the previous article - see here - and then speedily delete it, maybe merging the edit history into the current one. Sounds like a lot of work. --GuillaumeTell 10:10, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

To start I have to say thanks for all the good attention. This is not an easy one, I know.

Second, a shorter (195 char.) and I think better variant:

• ... that two cases of child sexual abuse in New York City religious institutions have emerged in 2011, both centered in prominent NYC youth basketball programs and with legal venue in Massachusetts?

Swliv (talk) 01:30, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Third, the background on the creation. It's only circumstantial, but I'll start by noting that the current article was created April 9, yet this self-nomination is under the 6th. That's because I started the nomination of the original article (all mine, no edits on it, started on the 6th, 27 page views on the 7th); then I realized that my typo, in effect, in the title was a real blemish; so I proceeded to create the new page (and, yes, with a good deal more editing of my original work, but nothing fundamental) and then empty out the old page, as I understood to be the appropriate way to (as happened) have an admin. eliminate it. (I didn't want it hanging around, think that's understandable.) Then I came back to the self-nom. but forgot to move it to the 9th. (And have worried about that a little, in the interim.) Anyway, the change in the title was simply that I'd left a "the" in in front of "New York City":

Child sexual abuse in the New York City religious institutions. Obviously blemished, I think. More substantively, to trace my approach to the article just a little: The NY mag. article I read maybe two weeks ago. Then a primary subject of that article, interviewed in South Carolina and all, B. Oliva, pled guilty in Massachusetts. I only stumbled on the guilty plea because the page views of Christ The King Regional High School spiked. Once I saw that, I felt I had to try to pull together what I'd learned (feeling I was sort of playing catch up, by then, but having to do it anyway). I have to say at the moment I can't recall how the second case -- E. Lorch, still before the Mass. courts -- came to my view. If anyone's interested, I'll trace my path. (The coincidences between the two, which the DYK uses, were pretty striking to me, once I had found the latter one and worked it up.)

Fourth, I'll say I've been following some of the widespread Wiki work on the general subject of child sexual abuse, and contributing from time to time, for quite a while. I could go into my history here in more detail if anyone wants, but for now I'll just go to the "censorship" comment above. I appreciate but haven't explored the references given. I may explore them and will respond if I do. Meanwhile, I'd say that I think Wikipedia has done a pretty good job on this general, difficult area and, on the other hand, there's much more that can and I hope will be done. I did marvel at the three "category bars" (I don't know what they're called; "hide"/ "show" at the bottom) which I imported into my article from probably Philadelphia. So much there. So much more that could be. I do think my current NYC contribution, also I'm sure not perfect, is nonetheless worthy of Wikipedia and, hence, of consideration for DYK. I'll leave it at that. Thanks again. Swliv (talk) 01:30, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 7

White Ware

• ... that White Ware or Vaiselle Blanche was a limestone based prototype of clay pottery developed somewhere in the Levant in the ninth millennium BC?

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Nominated by Paul Bedson at 04:55, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Zugspitze

Jacques Cambry

• ... that Breton writer Jacques Cambry (1749-1807) (pictured) published important works on Celtic history and monuments, and in 1805 founded the Celtic Academy?

Created/expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk) and Drmies (talk). Nominated by Drmies at 21:11, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Richard Deutsch

Combretum glutinosum and Wildlife of the Gambia

• ... that Combretum glutinosum, found in the Gambia and the Sahel belt, is used to make yellow dye?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 10:07, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• Note the Gambia wildlife is an expansion, Combretum glutinosum is new.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:08, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
• NOTE: I have worked with the evil Dr. Blofeld occasionally, and my article above, Jacques Cambry, follows from one of his translations. I welcome a vetting of my approving these two articles, by any interested or suspicious editor. Drmies (talk) 21:31, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Richard Deutsch

• ... that American ceramics sculptor Richard Deutsch had a piece exhibited at the Smithsonian Institution in 1981, just three years after his first solo show?

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 03:49, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Vladimir Velichko
• Drmies (talk) 21:22, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Bernd Redmann, Jörg Duda, Bassoon Quintet

• ... that in one concert bassoonist Lyndon Watts premiered Bernd Redmann's Migrant, played Jörg Duda's first Finnish Quartet, which he had commissioned, and the Bassoon Quintet of Graham Waterhouse, which he had premiered?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 11:18, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed: #Edward Litt Laman Blanchard, The Town (newspaper) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:37, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• Very good stuff again. Good to go. German sources are OK. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 09:31, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Killer Kowalski Memorial Show

• ... Ox Baker, a former tag team partner of Walter "Killer" Kowalski, was among the wrestling legends who spoke at the Killer Kowalski Memorial Show in 2008 (pictured)?

Created by 72.74.219.7 (talk). Nominated by 72.74.219.7 (talk) at 10:32, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

George W. Milias

• ... that former California State Assemblyman George W. Milias, a graduate of both San Jose State and Stanford, was President of the California Republican Assembly and state Republican Party Chairman?

• Reviewed: Axis power negotiations on the division of Asia during World War II ([43])

Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 08:13, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• Dates, lengths, and sourcing all look good. --Allen3 ^talk 13:42, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Leslie Whetter

• ... that on the Australasian Antarctic Expedition, Leslie Whetter (pictured) was accused of incompetence, "chiefly through lack of determination in character and failing to do his level best"?

• Reviewed: Charles W. Cansler, Austin-East High School

Created by Apterygial (talk). Self nom at 08:12, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Commercial Telegraphers Union of America

• ... that in 1916, members who attempted to remove a "white's only" clause from the Commercial Telegraphers Union of America's constitution were accused of "fomenting socialism"?

• Reviewed: Lev Voronin ([44])

Created by Tjepsen (talk). Nominated by E2eamon (talk) at 23:44, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Comment. "Whites only," no apostrophe. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:49, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Dickshooter

• ... that Dickshooter was named for Dick Shooter?

• Reviewed: Hoko River Formation ([45])

Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 22:51, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date OK, Hook fact supported by the reference. Mjroots (talk) 13:32, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
• This article is an absolute mess, and I object to it being promoted in its current form. Here's some history. Dickshooter is a U6 Census code location in a remote Idaho wilderness area, and I can find no record of it having any population. The only coverage of the place is its occasional inclusion on a list of funny place names. Presumably in order to meet the 1500 byte requirement for DYK, and due to the paucity of information that is actually about Dickshooter, the article's creator created multiple subsections summarizing the positive attributes of OTHER tourist destinations in Idaho. Most of these OTHER destinations discussed in the article are not even geographically close to Dickshooter -- three to four hours drive. These sections have no relevance to an article about Dickshooter (except possibly to add bulk to meet the 1500 byte requirement). I spent over an hour last night fixing it. I removed the flowery, Chamber of Commerce, tour guide style language. I also omitted the completely irrelevant sections discussing OTHER Idaho destinations at geographically remote distances from Dickshooter. Mbz then reverted all of my work in a wholesale manner. I re-made my changes with a note to please not undo my improvements in a wholesale manner. Mbz then made a note at the article's Talk page, and three minutes later another user User:ברוקולי again reverted all of my changes in a wholesale manner. Wikipedia is supposed to be about creating quality articles, not adding irrelevant fluff to an article so that it becomes long enough to get a DYK reward. Unless this article is substantially revised so that it legitimately meets the DYK requirements without the fluff and irrelevant discussion of distant sites OTHER THAN Dickshooter, it should not be promoted. Cbl62 (talk) 17:00, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

This discussion does not belong here. There's an article talk page to discuss content issues.--Mbz1 (talk) 18:48, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

In light of the more cooperative edits this afternoon, including striking sections on the unrelated locales, I am withdrawing my objection to promotion of the article. Cbl62 (talk) 22:06, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

As the article is right now, it is only ~ 700 characters, well short of the required 1500. Canada Hky (talk) 23:23, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• It is fixed now.Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 23:40, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

  The information about unrelated locales was just re-added. Its possible there just might not be enough material to hit the criteria, funny name or not. Canada Hky (talk) 03:36, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

  Note that the name and scope of the article have been changed since it was first created. It was originally an article about the community of Dickshooter, Idaho. It is now about how the name "Dickshooter" has been given to several places in Owyhee County, Idaho. Qrsdogg (talk) 04:46, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

  Are there any similar articles about a collection of features, none of which seem particularly notable on their own? If they are all notable, I'd say they should all have their own articles, and a dab page. If Dick Shooter is notable, I'd say the material about what was named after him could all be included on one page. As it is - this just seems like a lot of dedication to something for the sake of a funny name, and I don't think that's a great thing to feature. Canada Hky (talk) 15:02, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

  Well, I think what you're saying is that this is inadmissible to DYK due to WP:SYNTH? I think the sources for each location note that they were named after Mr. Shooter, and the current title works as well as "Places Named After Dick Shooter" would. Whether this is the greatest article or not, I think it technically meets all of the DYK criteria now. Qrsdogg (talk) 15:51, 9 April 2011 (UTC)comment edited at 18:09

  Well, "Dick Shooter" doesn't seem to be notable. A list of non-notable places named after him seems questionable as to whether it merits a Wikipedia entry. The fact that each place on its own does not have enough material on it to get 1500 characters isn't really a mark in its favour. I'm not questioning whether it is the greatest article, I'm questioning whether this listing of places is encyclopedic. Canada Hky (talk) 23:53, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

  Dick Shooter is not notable, the places named after him are, if for nothing else then at least for an unusual name, but Dickchooter creek listed in the National Wild and Scenic Rivers System, and Dickshooter ridge mentioned in the Act adopted by US congress.

  This discussion does not belong here. Notability is not one of DYK criteria. There are afd to discuss notability of the articles.--Mbz1 (talk) 14:12, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Thomas Cochrane, 8th Earl of Dundonald

• ... that among the many children of Thomas Cochrane, 8th Earl of Dundonald were inventors, clergymen, civil servants, Members of Parliament, army officers and admirals?

• Reviewed: Museum label ([46])

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 20:24, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length and hook all checking out good on this one. Sources accepted in good faith. Paul Bedson (talk) 11:49, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Gare de la Bastille

• ... that at its peak, the Gare de la Bastille (pictured) in Paris handled over 1,000,000 roses a night?

5x expanded by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 19:53, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date checks out, and offline hook cite accepted in good faith. Appropriate image licensing. Good to go. Yves (talk) 05:26, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed Dickshooter, Idaho. Mjroots (talk) 13:34, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Hoko River Formation

• ... that the Late Eocene marine Hoko River Formation is noted for producing crab, gastropod, cephalopod, and wood fossils?

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 19:24, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go with the image.--Mbz1 (talk) 22:34, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Santorini (ship) for second time to check added references and approve hook.--Kevmin § 19:24, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

HMS Plover (M26)

• ... that the British minelayer HMS Plover laid over 15,000 mines during World War II, including two that sank the German destroyer Z8 Bruno Heinemann off the Belgian coast in January 1942?

Created by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Self nom at 16:29, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Gloria (Gloria Trevi album)--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:29, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
• All DYK criteria met --TIAYN (talk) 18:59, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

All Saints Church, Waldershare

• ... that the monument to Sir Henry Furnese (pictured) in All Saints Church, Waldershare, Kent, fills a chapel, and has been described as "outstanding"?

• Reviewed: Railway accidents in Vietnam

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 16:25, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• All looks good to go. Article date and length check out, all references check out. Photo from Geograph ; licenced "Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0". -- Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 18:09, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Railway accidents in Vietnam

• ... that the Hai Van Pass (pictured) has been the scene of at least two of Vietnam's most serious railway accidents?

Created by Dragfyre (talk). Self nom at 14:46, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that, on average, one railway accident occurs in Vietnam every day?

Reviewed: Pistol River

Note: Created earlier in user space, moved to article space on Apr 7.

• I like this well-referenced article, but am not happy about the hooks. The original hook is not explicitly stated in the article, and has to be deduced, so, as it stands, it is not OK. The source for ALT1 states "The conductor noted that usually, an accident occurs every day", which is not what the article or the hook says. If the article were to be amended to say what the source says, and the hook to reflect that, it would be OK. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 16:16, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• OK—I've stated the original hook in the "List of notable accidents" section, and referenced it properly. As for the ALT1 hook, I disagree that the source differs from the article and the hook. Toyoda's report refers to the conductor, but in the article, this is quoted as ...researcher A. Maria Toyoda noted "There are numerous safety issues with level crossings, residences right up against the tracks, and other areas of activity that are dangerously close ... People will cross the tracks at great risk, dodging in front of the train. ...usually, an accident occurs every day. In other words, the article says she noted that an accident occurs every day, which is correct, although to be precise, she noted it in her report because the conductor noted it to her first. So in essence, she noted that the conductor noted it. I didn't cite the conductor in this way because I felt it would detract from the readability; besides which, he wasn't directly quoted. Anyway, having said that, and still disagreeing (and preferring the original hook anyway), if you think ALT1 is worth using and still needs further precision, I'd accept to make further changes. --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 17:05, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Fine, let's work on the original hook. Maybe the problem is the word "deadliest". According to the list, accidents in the pass killed c100 and 11 people; others killed 14 and 13. So how about:

• ALT2 ... that the Hai Van Pass (pictured) has been the scene of at least two of Vietnam's most serious railway accidents? --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 17:24, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• You're right, that works better. I've made this change to the original hook, and I've amended the phrasing in the article too. Anything else? --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 18:12, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• for ALT2 (original hook has been amended to this).--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:52, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Museum label

"Museum label" from 19th century BCE

• ... that the oldest known museum labels (sample pictured) are from circa 1900 BCE describing 2000 BCE objects?

• Reviewed Monticello Association (diff) --Doug Coldwell ^talk 13:47, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 13:22, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length and source check out. Benea (talk) 20:17, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Piper's Opera House

• ... that Piper's Opera House (pictured) was used by boxing champion Gentleman Jim Corbett as a training facility in preparation for his title bout with Bob Fitzsimmons?

• ALT1:... that in 1940 Errol Flynn auctioned off historic Piper's Opera House (pictured) memorabilia during a live NBC broadcast?
• Reviewed: 3rd Arizona Territorial Legislature and Old Church of St Mary the Virgin, Preston Candover

Created by Maile66 (talk). Self nom at 09:30, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Both hooks are good. Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 10:46, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Gloria (Gloria Trevi album)

• ... that the album Gloria by Mexican singer Gloria Trevi features a song dedicated to The Rolling Stones?

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 08:24, 7 April 2011 (UTC). Self nom at 08:24, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Please give link to the article you reviewed. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 12:39, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Lucy Aharish. Jaespinoza (talk) 17:57, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:29, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Above and Below

• ... that artist Maya Lin worked with the U.S. Geological Survey to create her Bluespring Caverns inspired sculpture Above and Below?

Created by Missvain (talk). Self nom at 04:45, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 12:44, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Rehabilitation Policy

• ... that rehabilitation policies are those that intend to reform criminal offenders rather than punish them or segregate them from the greater community?

• Reviewed: Post-detection policies

Created by BrickWallBartholomew (talk). Self nom at 17:09, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• This article is far too old for DYK. User:BrickWallBartholomew was created in February. At the end of February, this article had 4792 characters of prose. As of today, it has 8085. That is only a 1.7x expansion. There are also numerous issues with NPOV and the essay-like tone, but I will not address those here, as the age of the article alone already causes this article to fail DYK. OCNative (talk) 23:17, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Lev Voronin

• ... that Lev Voronin, a First Deputy Chairman of the Council of Ministers, was acting Premier of the Soviet Union in between Nikolai Ryzhkov's hospitalisation and Valentin Pavlov's election as Premier?

• Reviewed: HMS Plover (M26)

Created by TIAYN (talk) 19:00, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Date and length good. The article says he was Chairman of the Council of Ministers, not that he was Premier of the Soviet Union. They may very well be the same thing, for all I know, but the article should use the same terminology as the hook, or vice versa. I would check the ref and change it myself, but the ref is in Russian.

I've reworded it. --TIAYN (talk) 15:15, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• AGF on the foreign language source. --E♴(talk) 14:12, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 8

{{subst:NewDYKnom | article=Everybody Was in the French Resistance...Now! | hook=... that "G.I.R.L.F.R.E.N (You Know I've Got A)" by Everybody Was in the French Resistance...Now! is a reply to Avril Lavigne's song, "[[Girlfriend (Avril Lavigne Song)|Girlfriend]"]? | status=new | author=Bennydigital | nominator=Bennydigital }}

High refractive index polymers

• ... that the element, sulfur, can help high refractive index polymers bend light?

Created by Touchless (talk), Cddwumich (talk). Nominated by Klsyking (talk) at 14:21, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Landysh

• ... that Landysh, a Russian vessel built with funding from Japan to decommission nuclear submarines, was requested by Japan to assist in the aftermath of the Fukushima I nuclear accidents?

Created by Silverchemist (talk). Self nom at 23:04, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• Hook, length and date all check out. Smallbones (talk) 03:04, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Abraham Bolden

• ... that Abraham Bolden became the first African American member of the US Secret Service Presidential Protective Division after John F. Kennedy appointed him in 1961?

Created by Harley Hudson (talk). Self nom at 18:54, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• Nice article and an interesting story. Verified (online ref [9] confirms), and date and length are fine. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 21:27, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Radix natalensis

• ... that Radix natalensis (shell pictured) is a widespread freshwater snail in Africa?

Created by Snek01 (talk). Self nom at 17:49, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Acropyga acutiventris and Xenococcus annandalei. [47].

ALT1: that Radix natalensis (shell pictured) is a widespread freshwater snail in Africa transferring fluke Fasciola gigantica?

Choose a hook of your choice. --Snek01 (talk) 17:51, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• Date and length satisfactory. What about this as an alternate hook? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:03, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

ALT2 ... that Radix natalensis (shell pictured), a freshwater snail found in Africa, is a major intermediate host of liver flukes that cause fasciolosis?

ALT2 is not precise. It is a major vector in Africa for Fasciola gigantica only. Fasciola hepatica is transferred mainly by Galba truncatula and Pseudosuccinea columella in Africa. --Snek01 (talk) 10:07, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Fort Center

• ... that Fort Center is an archaeological site where maize may have been cultivated centuries before it appeared anywhere else in Florida?

ALT1 ... that the Fort Center site came to the attention of archaeologists after a carved wooden bird (pictured) was found in a pond?

Created by Donald Albury (talk). Self nom at 01:27, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• Moved from user sandbox on 8 April 2011.
• Reviewed Central Organising Committee, Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) Party Unity here

Zugspitze

• ... that the first recorded ascent of Germany's highest mountain, the Zugspitze (illustrated) on 27 August 1820, was led by a Bavarian Army officer, Josef Naus?

5x expanded by Bermicourt (talk). Self nom at 15:49, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• I'm going to say that's good to go. A massive authoritative expansion from c. 4900 to a whopping c. 34,000 characters, dated correctly. All sourced with clarifying notes. Awesome. Want to have a go at Mount Hermon? Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 03:40, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

The Redmond Spokesman

• ... that after The Redmond Spokesman won University of Oregon School of Journalism’s Hal E. Hoss trophy for the best weekly newspaper in Oregon three times in five years the award was retired and presented to the Spokesman’s publisher?

Created by Orygun (talk). Self nom at 18:22, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Michoacán Market, Mexico City

• ... that the addition of stencil art to the Michoacán Market in Mexico City increased sales?

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 14:44, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• All checks out.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:56, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed John Bennett FennThelmadatter (talk) 14:59, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Air India One

• ... that Air India One is the call sign of any aircraft carrying either the Prime Minister of India or the President of India?

Created by Around The Globe^{सत्यमेव जयते}. Self nom at 10:22, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Mote Park (cricket ground) [48]. Around The Globe^{सत्यमेव जयते} 10:37, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• Ref, length, and date look good Ruby2010 comment! 06:12, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

David Schuman, C.C. Bridgewater

• ... that Texas high court Judge Cathy Cochran and Appellate Court Judges David Schuman of Oregon, C.C. Bridgewater of Washington, and Mary Kay Becker of Washington all earned A.B. degrees from Stanford University in 1966?

• ALT1:... that the Stanford University Class of 1966 includes Texas high court Judge Cathy Cochran and Appellate Court Judges David Schuman of Oregon, C.C. Bridgewater of Washington, and Mary Kay Becker of Washington?
• Reviewed: Rehabilitation Policy ([49])
• Comment: The hook has 220 characters, but WP:DYKLN allows hooks over 200 characters for multiple articles if the hook is under 200 character by subtracting the extra article. Subtracting "David Schuman of Oregon," makes it 195 characters while subtracting "C.C. Bridgewater of Washington," makes it 188. Alt 1 is 210 characters: subtracting "David Schuman of Oregon," makes it 185 characters while subtracting "C.C. Bridgewater of Washington," makes it 178.

Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 08:49, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Sture Murders

• ... that two people owed their survival of the Sture Murders to an ambiguous order issued by a mad king?

Created by Skäpperöd (talk). Self nom at 07:21, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Emilio Changco [50] Skäpperöd (talk) 08:18, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

All checks out. Moonraker2 (talk) 11:33, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Open Your Eyes (Yes song)

• ... that after Rick Wakeman left Yes without a full-time keyboardist in 1997, the band borrowed Toto keyboardist Steve Porcaro for their final rock radio hit "Open Your Eyes"?

• Reviewed Landa de Matamoros. 28bytes (talk) 03:57, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 03:48, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Landa de Matamoros

• ... that the plant species of the Landa de Matamoros municipality in Querétaro represents about 25% of the plant diversity of Mexico?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 01:29, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Jens Joneleit Thelmadatter (talk) 01:35, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• Expansion ratio and date look good, Spanish-language hook reference accepted on good faith, review confirmed. Good to go. 28bytes (talk) 03:55, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Reinhold von Werner

• ... that the German Chancellor Otto von Bismarck sought the imprisonment of Admiral Reinhold Werner, who nearly precipitated a war between Spanish rebels and Germany in 1873?

5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 20:24, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed 4th Arizona Territorial Legislature. Parsecboy (talk) 20:38, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• Great article Parsec (or, if you prefer, Nate). I made it a start so as it would not be a stub on the main page. Buggie111 (talk) 00:25, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Myrtis

• ... that Ancient Greek girl Myrtis (pictured) was made a friend of the Millennium Development Goals by the United Nations Regional Information Centre?

Created by Brandmeister (talk). Self nom at 19:29, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• Created from redirect, hook is sourced. Interesting article, though "Creating new genus with Myrtis fanny in it" in history is one of the most amusing bot summaries ever! Chipmunkdavis (talk) 02:30, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Blue Labour

• ... that Blue Labour is a socially conservative trend in the British Labour Party that argues for Flag, Faith and Family?

5x expanded by Riversider2008 (talk). Self nom at 15:23, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

A good article overall, but you'll have to use the cite web template. Even so, this article is good to go. --TIAYN (talk) 19:52, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

4th Arizona Territorial Legislature‎

• ... that several members of the 4th Arizona Territorial Legislature‎ were accused of accepting bribes after the session created the territory's first "permanent" capital?

• Reviewed: George W. Milias ([51])
• Comment: "Permanent" is quoted because the article's offline sources use the quotes and because Arizona's capital was moved to two other locations during the 25 years immediately following the session.

Created by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 13:49, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

- article size and creation date check out, dead-tree source accepted per AGF, should be ready to go. Nice work. Parsecboy (talk) 20:37, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Vladimir Velichko

• ... that Vladimir Velichko, a First Deputy Prime Minister of the Soviet Union, was elected Minister of Heavy Machine Building by the Supreme Soviet with 5 votes or abstentions against his ministership?

• Reviewed: Blue Labour

Created by TIAYN (talk) 19:51, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• Article length, timeliness of submission, hook length all check out. Offline cite AFG. Article is OK for DYK. (I removed the unnecessary second "against" in the hook.) - Tim1965 (talk) 03:44, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Climate of the Falkland Islands

• ... that due to the long sunlight hours of the climate of the Falkland Islands the government decided to keep daylight saving time in winter?

Created by Chipmunkdavis (talk). Self nom at 02:21, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Myrtis Chipmunkdavis (talk) 02:34, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date and hook checked. Bejinhan talks 05:40, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 9

Livens Large Gallery Flame Projectors

• ... that the Livens Large Gallery Flame Projectors was a large fixed flamethrower used in the Battle of the Somme?

Created by Msrasnw (talk). Nominated by Msrasnw (Msrasnw) at 11:57, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Groupe Bogolan Kasobané

• ... that Groupe Bogolan Kasobané of Mali is a pioneer in the bogolan fine arts movement?

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 04:49, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Perkiomen Bridge

Perkiomen Bridge

• ... that angry residents burned down a toll booth on the west end of Perkiomen Bridge in 1867, and another on the east end in 1872?

Created by Smallbones (talk). Self nom at 01:56, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Landysh. Smallbones (talk) 03:06, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:54, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

• Comment: I bolded the article Ruby2010 comment! 06:10, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Foresight Nanotech Institute Feynman Prize

• ... that the Foresight Institute’s Feynman Prize in Nanotechnology includes both annual prizes and a $250,000 Grand Prize modeled after historical technological prizes such as the Longitude Prize?

5x expanded by Antony-22 (talk). Self nom at 19:02, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Spirit Fruit Society

Note: This is mostly a list article, the prose portion was expanded from ~300 bytes to ~1650 bytes.

Antoine Germain Labarraque

• ... that chemist Antoine Labarraque helped to banish nasty niffs from the streets and buildings of 19th century Paris?

Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 13:42, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Battle of Shubra Khit. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 13:42, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• ALT 1: "that chemist Antoine Labarraque found a solution – literally – for the bad smell coming from the Latin Quarter of Paris?" Shadygrove2007 (talk) 13:42, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

2012 United States federal budget

• ... that Democratic and Republican plans for the 2012 United States federal budget both focus on deficit reduction, but differ in their changes to taxation, entitlement programs, and research funding?

5x expanded by Antony-22 (talk). Self nom at 01:50, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Kommilitonen!

Sounding Point

• ... that Julian Lage's Grammy nominated album Sounding Point was recorded when he was only 20-years old?

• Reviewed: Carlton Hotel, Christchurch ([52])

Created by J04n (talk). Self nom at 00:39, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Michelle Linn-Gust

• ... that author Michelle Linn-Gust (pictured) released her first book Do They Have Bad Days in Heaven? Surviving the Suicide Loss of a Sibling which was about her experiences from her sister's suicide?

--BabbaQ (talk) 23:29, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Carlton Hotel, Christchurch

• ... that the Carlton Hotel (pictured) sold New Zealand's first beer on tap?

• Reviewed: Pinal de Amoles (diff)
• Comment: Another Category II heritage building gone.

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 21:10, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• Article date, length, and ref all check out. J04n(talk page) 00:25, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Bruiser Brody Memorial Cup

• ... that one of the venues used during the Bruiser Brody Memorial Cup Tour, held over 15 years after the 1988 murder of Bruiser Brody, took place at the same stadium Brody was mudered and featured his assailant, Invader I, on the card?

• ALT1:... that the Bruiser Brody Memorial Cup, held by the World Wrestling Council, took place over 15 years after the murder of Bruiser Brody at a WWC show in 1988?
• ALT2:... that the Bruiser Brody Memorial Cup, held by the World Wrestling Council 15 years after the murder of Bruiser Brody at a WWC show in 1988, was the second Brody memorial show held in Puerto Rico?

Created by 72.74.224.37 (talk). Self nom at 19:59, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• to the original hook. All seems to check out. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 10:33, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Wait a miniute, The original hook is 35 characters over the limit. I think it probibly is the best one so it would be great if the characters could be cut down to be eligable. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 10:40, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Dagens man

• ... that Dagens man is a Swedish dating show on TV4 Plus hosted by model and actress Carolina Gynning (pictured)?

self nom --BabbaQ (talk) 19:43, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed:Bhikshatana.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:53, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• Ready for DYK.--VictoriousGastain (talk) 21:54, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• While it looks like it's a "dejtingprogram" in Swedish, I changed the English in the hook from "datingshow" to "dating show". But if that's some new compound word that I haven't heard of, or if it's somehow desired stylistically, go ahead and change it back. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:26, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Twenty-five Year Award

• ... that the John Hancock Tower, (pictured) in Boston, Massachusetts won the Twenty-five Year Award thirty-five years after it was completed?

5x expanded by Found5dollar (talk). Self nom at 17:09, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: I have a ton of reviews from this April fools, but if I find an article to review here i will.

• Good to go.--VictoriousGastain (talk) 21:54, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Reipas

• ... that the record-setting Finnhorse trotter Reipas was originally a thin, weak foal of unknown parentage?

• Reviewed: Disorders of consciousness ([53])
• Comment: No self nom DYKs through yet but reviewed to learn uvu

Created by Pitke (talk). Self nom at 15:05, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Cathy Cochran

• ... that Republican Texas Court of Criminal Appeals Judge Cathy Cochran Herasimchuk married a fellow Stanford student, taking his surname when they married in 1966, but he took her surname in 2001?

• Reviewed: Post-detection policies ([54])

Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 08:21, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Bhikshatana

• ... that Tamil devotional poetry describes how clothes of married women slipped off by the sight of the Hindu god Shiva as a naked beggar?

Created by Redtigerxyz (talk). Self nom at 11:12, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• Maud Gage Baum reviewed. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 11:20, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
• Everything checks out. DYK ready.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:51, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't that be "slipped off at the sight of the Hindu god Shiva"? Richerman (talk) 00:54, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Courtney Vandersloot

• ... that Courtney Vandersloot (pictured) is the first NCAA Division I basketball player, male or female, with 2,000 points and 1,000 assists in a career?

• ALT1:... that when Courtney Vandersloot (pictured) first called John Stockton for basketball advice, she was so hesitant to talk with him that she hoped to reach his voice mail?
• Reviewed: 2011 European Under-18 Rugby Union Championship

Created by Dale Arnett (talk). Self nom at 07:56, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

• DYK ready. Everything checks out. For original hook to be used.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:57, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Mote Park (cricket ground)

• ... that Mote Park stopped being used by Kent after a green wicket cost them 8 County Championship points due to a low scoring cricket game that ended in under 2 days?

Created by The C of E (talk). Self nom at 07:07, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Date Length and ref verified. Around The Globe^{सत्यमेव जयते} 10:35, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Dwight B. Heard

• ... that Dwight B. Heard is credited with the expansion of Arizona's cotton industry after becoming president of the Arizona Cotton Association?

• Reviewed: Reinhold Werner Reviewed
• Comment: Hook is 152 with spaces, 130 without.

Created by Buggie111 (talk). Self nom at 00:25, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

reference says he is credited with making industry more competitive not that he is credited with its expansion. Richerman (talk) 01:21, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Economy growth does not equal expansion? What do you suggest? Buggie111 (talk) 01:26, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, have I missed something about economy growth in the source? If not I would just say he's credited with making industry more competitive internationally. Richerman (talk) 01:40, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Oh, the source. Yes, I see your point. How 'bout this? Buggie111 (talk) 02:15, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• ... that Dwight B. Heard is credited with making Arizona's cotton industry more competitive after becoming president of the Arizona Cotton Association?

OK, change the line in article to that too and it's good to go Richerman (talk) 09:33, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

You Debt Your Life

• ... that "You Debt Your Life" is the second American Dad! episode to feature the story of how Roger the Alien saved Stan Smith at Area 51, the first being first season's episode "Rodger Codger"?

5x expanded by User:89119e (talk). Self nom at 06:24, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Rushbearing

• that the ancient custom of rushbearing (pictured) has died out in most of Britain but is still celebrated in parts of the northwest of England?

• ALT1 ... that the ancient British custom of rushbearing (pictured) was opposed by the Puritans, probably for encouraging intemperance, but deemed acceptable by King James I in his Declaration of Sports?

5x expanded by Richerman (talk). Self nom at 01:13, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Dwight B. Heard

• I prefer ALT1, I think it is more interesting. Looks good. (The original hook I did not check.) Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 09:08, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Seven Wonders of Colombia

• ... that the Salt Cathedral of Zipaquirá got the most votes on a competition choosing the Seven Wonders of Colombia?

created by Alwhorl (talk). Self nom at 20:02, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• Article has only 231 characters in prose (1500 required). Please expand it. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 08:56, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 10

Acropyga acutiventris and Xenococcus annandalei

• ... that the ant, Acropyga acutiventris, forms a mutualistic association with the mealybug, Xenococcus annandalei, and that the queen leaves the nest on her nuptial flight carrying a mealybug in her jaws?

• Reviewed: Radix natalensis
• Comment: One hook for two connected new articles.

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self nom at 09:36, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length verified, DYK hook facts verified for both hooks. I think, there should not be commas in the hook above. I like shorter ALT1. --Snek01 (talk) 11:02, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

ATL1: ... that the queen ant of the Acropyga acutiventris carry a mealybug Xenococcus annandalei in her jaws on her nuptial flight?

Samantha McClymont

• ... that Australian country music singer Samantha McClymont, a member of the sister trio The McClymonts, failed to make the Top 30 finalists in Australian Idol 2004?

Created by WWGB (talk). Self nom at 02:15, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Ethiopian eunuch

• ... that the Ethiopian eunuch (pictured) has been described as the "first baptized gay Christian"?

• Reviewed: Ferris Jennings

Created by StAnselm (talk). Self nom at 23:37, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Adam Eckfeldt

• ... that longtime United States Mint Chief Coiner Adam Eckfeldt began what became the Smithsonian's National Numismatic Collection?

Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 22:12, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Walter Gilbert (cricketer).--Wehwalt (talk) 22:12, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

St Mary Magdalene's Church, Tortington

• ... that St Mary Magdalene's Church in Tortington (pictured) has "an amazing congregation of grotesque monsters"?

• Reviewed: Abraham Bolden (Diff)

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 22:05, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. Offline hook accepted in good faith. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 03:08, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Walter Gilbert (cricketer)

• ... that cricketer Walter Gilbert, a cousin of W. G. Grace, was caught stealing money from a team-mate?

• Reviewed: List of Scotland national football team hat-tricks ([55])

Created by Sarastro1 (talk). Self nom at 21:25, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Date, length, ref all checked, though subscription ref accepted in good faith, everything in order, well done.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:07, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

List of Scotland national football team hat-tricks

• ... that footballers Denis Law, Robert Smyth McColl and Hughie Gallacher have each scored three hat-tricks for Scotland?

• Reviewed: Robert Phelps

5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 18:35, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• Bit of an unusual one as the DYK check tool is saying that it isn't a 5x expansion although my calculator is saying it is. Previous count was 344, and current expansion places it at 1780 characters. 344x5=1720, so not sure why the addon is saying no. :( Miyagawa (talk) 18:38, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

I get the same numbers with the DYK check and it seems OK to me. Hook checks out and refs all good. Is it necessary to say "sets of hat-tricks" or would "hat-tricks" be enough? --Sarastro1 (talk) 21:15, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for review, have amended hook. Miyagawa (talk) 21:59, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Jefferson nickel

• ... that Felix Schlag won the prize for designing the Jefferson nickel but was required to submit an entirely new "tails" or reverse side?

Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 17:10, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Church of St John the Baptist, Upper Eldon--Wehwalt (talk) 17:10, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Church of St John the Baptist, Upper Eldon

• ... that in 1864 the Church of St John the Baptist, Upper Eldon, (pictured) in Hampshire was being used as a cowshed, and in 1973 its only occupant was "a beautiful white owl"?

• Reviewed: North Piddle

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 13:45, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• Checked history, length, reference. All looks good!--Wehwalt (talk) 17:07, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

North Piddle

• ... that residents of North Piddle saw a flash of light prior to one of England's strongest earthquakes and speculated its cause was a a meteor impact?

Created by Mbz1 (talk). Nominated by Canuckle (talk) at 08:17, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, ref OK. But the ref does not say it was "one of England's strongest earthquakes"; this has to be deduced from the link, which is not OK for DYK. The ref says what the article says: it "exceeded in violence any previous instance of seismic energy here within the present century". Would you like to re-word the hook?--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 13:35, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Would "one of 19th-Century England's" be appropriate? Canuckle (talk) 03:53, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, that's correct, but it's still not what the source actually says. As the earthquake occurred in 1896, and it was the strongest of the century to date, it probably was the strongest in the century. But again that is deduction. Can you make anything of its occurrence in 1896 and the extract I quoted above? Or, to keep it simple, just leave out the bit about its being the strongest and confine the hook to the the date and the witness's experiences and speculations.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 08:31, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Supernatural (Des'ree album)

• ... that Supernatural, a 1998 album by British singer Des'ree, sold 50,000 copies in the United States, although her 1994 album I Ain't Movin' sold over a million copies?

• Reviewed: Long Island serial killer ([56])

Created by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 05:07, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good to me. Jheald (talk) 15:57, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Battle of Shubra Khit

• ... that the detonation of the Mamluk's flagship's magazine at the Battle of Shubra Khit sent both the Mamluk flotilla and ground forces in full retreat?

• ALT1:... that Napoleon's plans for the Battle of the Pyramids were based off of the strategy he used at the Battle of Shubra Khit?
• Reviewed: Chamcook Lake

Created by Buggie111 (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• it is the same battle right : Battle of Chobrakit? shouldn't it be merged?

• . Sadly, the article doesn't seem to be elegible as it already exists as Battle of Chobrakit(?). The two need to be merged. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 13:31, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

• How could I have missed that? Darn. I'm fine with having mine deleted and the other continue on, it's got nearly the exact same info. Guess I shouldn't wait years when making articles in my userspace! Buggie111 (talk) 21:35, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Abuse defense

• ... that, after chopping off her husband's penis, Lorena Bobbitt won her trial by employing the abuse defense?

• Reviewed: Jan Müller-Wieland ([57])

5x expanded by Cryptic C62 (talk). Self nom at 05:02, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Gandrung

• ... that Gandrung traditional dance (pictured), popular in Java, Bali and Lombok, was originally dedicated to the rice goddess, Dewi Sri?

created by Awewe (talk). Self nom at 20:02, 10 April 2011 (UTC+8)

Articles created/expanded on April 11

Felicia D. Henderson

• ... that African-American writer Felicia D. Henderson has worked on projects as varied as the television series Soul Food, Gossip Girl, Fringe, and the comic series Teen Titans?

Created by Ruby2010 comment! 06:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Air India One Ruby2010 comment! 06:13, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Special occasion holding area

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Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual. Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination, but no more than six weeks before the occasion. April Fools' Day is an exception to these requirements - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.

April 15

(Anniversary of the sinking of the Titanic)

Colin Campbell Cooper

• ... that American artist Colin Campbell Cooper assisted in the rescue of the survivors of the Titanic, and during the rescue created several paintings (example pictured) which document the events?

• Reviewed: Fred (baboon) ([58])
• Comment: DYKcheck fails here. Please check expansion manually.

5x expanded by Mandarax (talk). Self nom at 18:55, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

The article was 8,401 bytes on 2/14, now 21,287, only 2.5x expansion. Otherwise quality and refs are good. — btphelps ^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:58, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• We don't go by file size. We use the amount of prose in the rendered article. (Use of tools such as User:Dr pda/prosesizebytes.js or User:Shubinator/DYKcheck.js is recommended for determining this.) While you're correct that the file size of the version from 2/24 (not 2/14) just prior to expansion was 8401 bytes, the prose size was 1468 characters. It currently has 8054 characters of prose, which is a 5.48x expansion. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:27, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Then it's good to go. — btphelps ^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:36, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

April 16

Epitaphium

• ... that Epitaphium, composed for string trio by Graham Waterhouse, is performed today in Wigmore Hall in a memorial concert for the bassoonist William Waterhouse?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 13:38, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• comment: the "today" would be true on 16 April 2011, a special occasion.
• reviewed: #Garawarra State Conservation Area --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:52, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• All DYK criteria met. Moved into special holding area. But how about a small expansion to:

• ALT1 ... that Epitaphium, composed for string trio by Graham Waterhouse, is performed today in Wigmore Hall in a memorial concert for his father, the bassoonist William Waterhouse? --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 14:41, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for improving! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
• for ALT 1.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 10:03, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

April 17, Palm Sunday

Himmelskönig, sei willkommen, BWV 182

• ... that Bach composed Himmelskönig, sei willkommen, BWV 182, for Palm Sunday as his first cantata for the Schlosskirche (pictured) of the court in Weimar?

Created/expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 22:03, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• Suggested for Palm Sunday, 17 April. reviewed #Hans Daniel Namuhuja --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:45, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 23:19, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

April 22 (Good Friday)

Jesus at Herod's Court

• ... that the scene of Jesus at Herod's Court (pictured) only appears in the Gospel of Luke?

Created by History2007 (talk). Nominated by LiteralKa (talk) at 17:08, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Hook fact is uncited in the article. Once an appropriate citation is added, I recommend this article be moved to the Special occasion holding area for a April 22 (Good Friday) appearance. --Allen3 ^talk 19:29, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• And the Bible passage next to it doesn't count as a citation? LiteralKa (talk) 02:10, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
• comment: I hope for someone to go over the prose and improve "... in which Jesus appears before Herod Antipas in Jerusalem, prior to the Crucifixion of Jesus", for example. - "The scene" (in the hook) reads like theater, I would not present that on Good Friday when believers remember facts. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:52, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

I have found a source that says that only Luke talked about it. I also second the motion that it should be held to be used on Good Friday. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 19:59, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Alt1 ... that Jesus at Herod's Court is only mentioned in the Gospel of Luke?

How's that as an improved hook? The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 20:03, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

The problem with ALT1 is that multiple Bible commentaries mention the story and thus make the hook technically untrue. I would suggest

"Appears" is different from "mentioned". LiteralKa (talk) 02:10, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• ALT2:... that the gospel account of Jesus at Herod's Court (pictured) only appears in Luke? --Allen3 ^talk 20:08, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

to Alt2. Seems good to me, I think that it is only right that we have at least 1 Christian based DYK on the main page on Good Friday. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 20:13, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Wow, that happened so fast. I did not know you guys where DYKing this. I only started writing it earlier today & had not checked it. Anyway, I added a more WP:RS source for the suggested hook. As for text improvements, go for it - I wrote it really quickly, so I will leave it to you guys to make it DYK presentable. Cheers. History2007 (talk) 20:13, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• This seems also a bit too fast to me. I would have left it in the suggestion section for more people to watch. The prose still says "Jesus appears ... before the crucifixion of Jesus" (... "before his crucifixion", if at all). For the source: can you get something more reliable then bible study or offline? For the hook: let's assume readers around the globe who don't know what "the Luke" is. Suggestion:

ALT3:... that of the Four Evangelists, only Luke reported the episode of Jesus at Herod's Court (pictured)?

Wha does "more reliable than offline" mean? I think you should AGF it, but if you still want to check, there you go. Also this and this. And I think ALT2 works fine, mentioning the Evangelists opens Gospel authorship questions, a Pandora's box that is best left closed on a DYK line on Good Friday. History2007 (talk) 23:04, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

I am not reviewing this, just commenting. Clarifying: "more reliable than bible study" meant one thing, an online source preferable to an offline one another, English is not my first language. If the additional sources are good, insert them in the article, not here, please. - Personally, I know the hook fact from reading the Bible. But Wikipedia needs a source. - I remember a good article on a Christian fact, Circumcision of Christ, if you want a feeling for what can be done in the field. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:10, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Actually there are three WP:RS references for that fact in the article, as well as the Bible study ref. It is generally hard to find a scholarly book online, unless it is G-books, and those links are not usually used in articles. And above all else, this is a non-controversial fact in that no one has ever written that it appears in two Gospels, because they could not point to the 2nd Gospel. So the three book refs are well within WP:V territory, and that fact is really well referenced by general standards in Wikipedia. History2007 (talk) 09:40, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Halloween

Rhacophorus vampyrus

• ... that the tadpole of the Vampire flying frog Rhacophorus vampyrus has two fang-like hooks in its mouth?

Created by Newone (talk), Ka Faraq Gatri (talk). Nominated by Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) at 14:59, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comment If the article meets DYK criteria, suggest moving it to Special Occasions section and keeping for Halloween. The authors of the paper on which this article is substantially based have stated that they intend to publish a separate paper on the tadpoles of this species so the move would also allow time for any material from this paper (assuming it is published in time) to be incorporated. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 16:56, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

• That's confirmed. I agree that this should be kept for Halloween, especially as "A detailed description of the new tadpole will be published separately." which might be available by October. It's certainly an early start for the Halloween collection, does anyone think it is a problem to save it until then? SmartSE (talk) 23:41, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

SUPPORT waiting till Halloween, esp. if we can get a good, free picture of the scary tadpoles. --PFHLai (talk) 04:06, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I've moved this as there were no objections. If someone wants to make a subpage for it, like we have for April Fools' nominations then feel free. SmartSE (talk) 12:46, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Comment Halloween is just under 10 months away. I can't help thinking that if every vaguely ghoulish or spooky article is saved up that long, it will create a massive backlog (and a precedent for other days). After all, there are only 3-4 sessions of 6 or 7 hooks available for any particular day. Bob talk 22:26, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Comment I have a raised eyebrow over this. Essentially were promoting an article to DYK, which in over half a year will appear on the main page. Would not this article be substatiannnly different from the one reviewed giving that theres 7+ months between creation and DYK appearance? Ottawa4ever (talk) 15:14, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Comment Good points. This article could be significantly different from the one reviewed by 31st October depending on whether or not the group concerned have published their second paper on the species (one which focuses specifically on the unusual tadpoles) by then. As it stands the article was written from all the extant scientific literature on the species (a single paper) and a smattering of popular press coverage (who probably won't ever revisit the species, unless a big deal is made out of the second paper). It is possible someone will re-write the article from the current sources, however, most articles on obscure species (of which this is one) don't have very high edit levels. For comparison, a large number of articles on other species in the same genus were created by Polbot and haven't been significantly altered since their creation in 2007. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 16:14, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your input. Ive opened a larger discussion here; Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Rhacophorus_vampyrus. Its not just that the article may be different, but also that dyk is in the spirit of new articles or recently expanded ones. As such (I feel) queing an article for 10 months is misleading our readers since it is a violation of both leading principles of dyk. Ottawa4ever (talk) 10:29, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

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• User:AlexNewArtBot/GoodSearchResult – This is an automated list of promising new articles generated by AlexNewArtBot (talk · contribs · logs).