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May 29

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May 28

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2024 Georgian protests

Article: 2023–2024 Georgian protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: The Georgian parliament led by the Georgian Dream party votes on overturning the presidential veto of a controversial Russian-modelled proposed "Law on Transparency of Foreign Influence" amidst large-scale protests. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The Georgian parliament led by the Georgian Dream party overturns the presidential veto of the controversial Russian-modelled "Law on Transparency of Foreign Influence" despite large-scale protests
News source(s): The Guardian (live coverage)
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Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Article really needs an overhaul, may have to wait until vote is overAbcmaxx (talk) 10:24, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support has been preceded by notable protests, fits ITNR Ion.want.uu (talk) 19:52, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support on notability, but the protest article needs just a few more fixes (four {{cn}} paragraphs in the Russia and US reaction sections, some proseline issues). For people using cite highlighters like me, note that some sources show up as unreliable even though they might not be, as the Facebook share link of the sources got archived instead for some reason. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 20:44, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for multiple reasons. Firstly, this is domestic politics with no major international impact. Secondly, if there were mass-scale protests and people really condemn the bill, they could vote against the ruling political parties on the parliamentary election later this year to change the political climate. That’s how it works in a democratic country, which Georgia pretends to be. Thirdly, the wording of the blurb with “controversial Russian-modelled” is very confusing (Did Russian officials participate in the proposal?) and not neutral. Fourthly, posting this implies that we should consider posting the potential repeal of the law in the near future if the composition of the parliament changes, which would be too much navel-gazing on a topic within a single country. In general, we don’t post such events. Protests always have the potential to merit inclusion in case they escalate, but this is still not it.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 21:14, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Please reread WP:ITNCDONT.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 23:28, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It quite clearly means it's modelled on a Russian law, not that Russians had any direct involvement. Traumnovelle (talk) 00:21, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Vanilla Wizard: Even if it's modelled on a Russian law, this is an event with a minor impact in global politics, and "controversial" isn't a word that should be included in a blurb. Wikipedia should remain impartial. There are hundreds of similar laws around the globe which push countries closer to Russia, China, the United States or any other global player. I also don't see how my argumentation violates WP:ITNCDONT.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 06:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If people are protesting the law it is evidently controversial... Traumnovelle (talk) 06:52, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Those people can punish the governing parties on the parliamentary election later this year. That’s how democracy works. The protests have potential for posting if they turn violent with casualties or end up in a change of government, and the law itself has potential if international sanctions are imposed against the Georgian government, but the events have clearly not reached that state yet. A milder way to oppose this would be to wait how things develop in the coming days. Otherwise, a law on NGOs resulting in mass-scale protests is very much a run-of-the-mill event, especially in times when we have major ongoing armed conflicts.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It has major international impact in light of EU enlargement and the threat of Russian aggression. This law has put Georgia away from the EU membership they have been striving for until now and back into the arms of Russia, who still occupy 1/3 of the country. The fact that several heads of state as well as international organisation have widely commented on this repeatedly reflects this. Abcmaxx (talk) 08:08, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Georgia's accession to the EU would increase its population by 0.83 per cent, area by 1.65 per cent, GDP by 0.18 per cent, and would reduce its GDP per capita by 0.65 per cent. That's all but definitely not a major impact. Furthermore, it won't happen in foreseeable future given that there have been candidate countries for more than 20 years now. Also, if you take a look at the opinion polls on this year's parliamentary election, it doesn't seem likely that the ruling party will lose and the government will change. So, it literally boils down to whether these protests can overturn the government and/or something big happens in the country's international relations (e.g. imposing of international sanctions). As it stands, there are no signs for that happening other than diplomatic notes, but we can wait to see how the story unfolds further.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support It's notable enough, especially with the EU and USA reaction. Should the bill pass, which it looks like GD will do everything in their power to do so, then that effectively scuttles any and all chances of Georgia approaching the west or having friendly relations with the EU, which has stated this will kill their EU membership bid, and the US said if it passes it will warrant sanctions on Georgian leadership. Scu ba (talk) 05:04, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) People's Majlis

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Article: People's Majlis (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Members of the 20th Parliament of the Maldives take oath of office and Abdul Raheem Abdulla elected speaker (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Members of the 20th Parliament of the Maldives take oath of office and Abdul Raheem Abdulla, Special Advisor to the President elected speaker
News source(s): Edition, Sun, Sun, Avas, Majlis, Adhadhu
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The parliament with most members in the Maldivian history with an amount of 93 and People's National Congress has a super majority with 75 members making an history. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 08:38, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per Masem. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 19:00, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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May 27

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RD: Elizabeth MacRae

Article: Elizabeth MacRae (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American actress. 240F:7A:6253:1:E4DF:C268:98B6:EDE2 (talk) 02:50, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Ready) RD: Bette Nash

Article: Bette Nash (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian, BBC News
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

World's longest serving flight attendent. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 17:47, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Bill Walton

Article: Bill Walton (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

– Muboshgu (talk) 17:32, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May 26

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(Ready) RD: Richard Mazza

Article: Richard Mazza (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): VT Digger
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Vermont politician. Obituary published 26 May. Thriley (talk) 03:27, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Indy 500

Article: 2024 Indianapolis 500 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In auto racing, Josef Newgarden wins the Indianapolis 500 (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In auto racing, Josef Newgarden wins the Indianapolis 500 for the second year in a row, becoming the 6th ever driver to do so.
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Josef Newgarden, once again wins the Indy 500, I didn't watch the race, apparently another last lap pass? But, he gets it 2 in a row. Altblurb is for if we should mention it. User:TheBlueSkyClub (Talk) 00:30, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak support Would like to see more expansive sourcing in the "Summary" bullets, rather than just one tag at the end of the paragraph(s), but otherwise seems good to go. Good amount of prose regarding the race itself. The Kip (contribs) 05:20, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support looks good enough, decent summary of the race and all the other preceding action, and more than good enough sourcing. Joseph2302 (talk) 06:49, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support article is very extensive and is in a great shape. PrinceofPunjabTALK 09:57, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support alternate blurb as it seems relevant to mention he got two in a row. Tableguy28 (talk) 19:37, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 IIHF World Championship

Article: 2024 IIHF World Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Czechia has won 2024 IIHF World Championship that took place in Prague and Ostrava. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In ice hockey, Czechia defeats Switzerland to win the gold medal at the 2024 IIHF World Championship.
News source(s): IIHF, AP News, The Boston Globe, TSN, Forbes, Radio Prague International
Credits:

Martin Tauchman (talk) 21:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support on notability I think the event is of importance but Oppose on quality as the article has very little prose. PrinceofPunjabTALK 09:56, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2024 Lithuanian presidential election

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Article: 2024 Lithuanian presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Gitanas Nausėda (pictured) is re-elected president of Lithuania. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 19:17, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Comprehensive enough. Bremps... 23:56, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Major enough of an event to warrant entry. Scu ba (talk) 03:44, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's ITN/R. Abcmaxx (talk) 05:54, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support article is in a good shape. PrinceofPunjabTALK 09:52, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2024 Indian Premier League final

Proposed image
Article: 2024 Indian Premier League final (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In cricket, Kolkata Knight Riders defeat Sunrisers Hyderabad to win the 2024 Indian Premier League final (player of the final Mitchell Starc pictured) (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In the Indian Premier League, Kolkata Knight Riders defeat Sunrisers Hyderabad to win the finals (player of the final Mitchell Starc pictured)
News source(s): NDTV
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Congrats to KKR. ITNR event. Ktin (talk) 18:51, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose article text on the match is sourced solely to a scorecard. The nested tables violate MOS:ACCESS and the colour schemes of the table violates WP:COLOUR (and not enough contrast between black text and green colours). Background section also needs some more sources, and more context to explain each team's route to the final. Also bunch of WP:WEASEL words in the match summaries (thus causing an orange tag to be appropriate). Parent article is also junk with no decent text, and we shouldn't really be encouraging people to create a final article that's just slightly less junk just so they can post it here. And image in infobox is possibly not a valid fair use. All in all , way short of WP:ITNQUALITY. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:04, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. I have fixed the weasel words issue, if any. Do not agree with most of the other assertions above. Ktin (talk) 21:08, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Tagging MNWiki845 as well. I think I have fixed the colors issues and the MOS access issues with nested tables. Good to go imo. Ktin (talk) 02:15, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Text is still sourced almost entirely to scorecards, better sources that actually verify the information in text should be used. Joseph2302 (talk) 06:46, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The sourcing/tables issues seem to have been fixed, and there's a good amount of descriptive prose for a sports article. The Kip (contribs) 05:18, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support article look good to me but I'm not happy with both blurbs. PrinceofPunjabTALK 09:51, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support I think this should be on the news section because this is quite an important event in the Indian Subcontinent and other parts of the world. This was also there last year, when CSK won the IPL, and it wasn't too bad. In fact, it made a few more cricket fans in the world. One thing, is that the blurbs have a lot of scope for improvement. SunnyMoon404 (talk) 18:50, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's ITN/R, so notability is assumed. The Kip (contribs) 19:06, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for now. Still a few citations needed. Could do with an "Aftermath" section too, which is standard for sporting events, for reactions and suchlike.  — Amakuru (talk) 18:57, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Amakuru: thanks. I have fixed all the [citation needed] tags. None of the prior IPL finals (which we have posted) had aftermath sections. I have not introduced one such. e.g. 2023 2022 Ktin (talk) 22:13, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, it still ought to have one, that is part of the basic structure of a sporting final article and would certainly be required for a GA run and to be considered as covering all aspects of the topic... But I guess for the "minimum" standard of ITN it's OK. Striking my oppose and you can go ahead and post as far as I'm concerned. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 22:46, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May 25

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RD: Albert S. Ruddy

Article: Albert S. Ruddy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood, Los Angeles Times, CBS News
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Canadian-American film producer. 240F:7A:6253:1:E4DF:C268:98B6:EDE2 (talk) 00:31, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Johnny Wactor

Article: Johnny Wactor (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2], [3], [4]
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Happily888 (talk) 05:07, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Oppose article is no way near ready to be posted. Article has 92 word long prose, of which nearly 45 words are about his death. Also, Filmography is unsourced. PrinceofPunjabTALK 10:00, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cannes/Palme d'Or

Articles: Palme d'Or (talk · history · tag) and 2024 Cannes Film Festival (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Anora, directed by Sean Baker, wins the Palme d'Or prize at the Cannes Film Festival. (Post)
News source(s): (Reuters)
Credits:

One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Article needs more prose and some other work. PrinceofPunjabTALK 04:14, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support on notability for now but wait until some more work is done on the page, then I'll support it. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 10:08, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is WP:ITNR, so only consideration is article quality. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:09, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Richard M. Sherman

Article: Richard M. Sherman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Yahoo
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American songwriter Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:58, 2024 May 25 (UTC)

RD: Grayson Murray

Article: Grayson Murray (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Sudden death of a professional golfer. Natg 19 (talk) 20:05, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmed suicide. Anyway, I support posting this tragic death. NW1223<Howl at meMy hunts> 16:22, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support article looks ready to me. PrinceofPunjabTALK 10:02, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments: Can we have a sentence with footnote(s) in the main body of the prose on the date and place of birth, please? The info is in the infobox already and should be sourced in the main prose. Thanks. Also, the boxes above the "PGA Tour career summary" section need sources. Please add more REFs. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 04:48, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I added date and place of birth and place of death to the prose. It appears that Tewapack has referenced the tables. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:59, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Canonisation of Carlo Acutis

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Article: Carlo Acutis (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Carlo Acutis is canonised by Pope Francis, becoming the first millennial saint recognised by the Catholic Church (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Pope Francis recognises a second miracle attributed to Carlo Acutis and canonises him as the first millennial saint in the Catholic Church
Alternative blurb II: ​ Pope Francis starts the canonisation process to recognise Carlo Acutis as the first millennial saint
News source(s): Reuters,
Credits:
The first millennial saint made news worldwide, I'm more than happy to agree to any changes of the wording but I think this is newsworthy for ITN. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 07:05, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I think we should at least wait till he is officially canonized, as far as I understand, process has just started and the ceremony will take place later. Also, have we ever posted a canonization story before? PrinceofPunjabTALK 07:33, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We posted Pope John Paul II's in 2014. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 08:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: This is notable for being the first millennial, but has Acutis actually been canonised? It does not seem like it. Looking through the archives, the canonisations of the Martyrs of Otranto and Laura Montoya (first canonisations of Francis), Francisco and Jacinta Marto, Marie-Alphonsine Danil Ghattas, and Mariam Baouardy were not posted; canonisations of Mother Theresa, John XXIII, and John Paul II were posted. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 07:35, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I'll 100% support this once it actually happens. That's what we did for John Paul II in 2014. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 08:03, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support on notability but wait until canonisation has occurred, as per above. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 11:30, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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RD: Destiny Deacon

Article: Destiny Deacon (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [5], [6]
Credits:
Article updated
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 Happily888 (talk) 00:30, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support An unfortunate amount of sources seem to be affiliated with the late artist but aren't claiming anything that would warrant doubt. This C-class article has a lot of one and two-sentence paragraphs, but the issue isn't bad enough to prevent main-page posting. Bremps... 02:16, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) RD: Doug Ingle

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Article: Doug Ingle (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Rolling Stone
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

It's the In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida guy; he was 78. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:01, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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(Posted) Enga landslide

Article: 2024 Enga landslide (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 100 people are killed in a landslide in Papua New Guinea's Enga Province. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ At least 100 people are killed and 3,000 more remain buried by a landslide in Papua New Guinea's Enga Province.
Alternative blurb II: ​ At least four people are killed and three thousand presumed buried by a landslide in Papua New Guinea's Enga Province.
News source(s): ABC, Papua New Guinea Post-Courier, RNZ
Credits:

May want to wait until the death toll is a bit more settled (and the article lengthened), but reports are suggesting at least 100–300 and potentially up to 1,000 people were killed. The Kip (contribs) 17:19, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Admins willing to post ITN: , this has been marked ready for around seven hours - anyone willing to post? The Kip (contribs) 03:20, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll look into it. Schwede66 03:30, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Posted I'm surprised that nobody here commented on the article's lead; it was a complete mess. I had to rewrite that so that the original hook (which I've chosen) has any resemblance to what the lead says. It sounds like we'll be updating this item frequently as more info becomes available. Schwede66 03:41, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm more surprised that Wikipedia turned one hundred feared, presumed and suspected deaths into actual deaths. This wasn't good enough for one duck last May nor OK for one militant leader three Mays ago. A shitty lead is relatively normal. Still, though, thanks for cleaning it up. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks to Stephen for cleaning that up. InedibleHulk (talk) 08:04, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Kabosu (dog)

Article: Kabosu (dog) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sky News, BBC, NYTimes
Credits:

Article updated
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The dog behind the Doge meme. No doubt famous enough but I'm not sure if the target article is problematic for RD because the subject is the meme. There's a section about the dog. Johndavies837 (talk) 07:56, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May 23

Armed conflicts and attacks

Arts and culture

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections


(Posted) RD: Ángeles Flórez Peón "Maricuela"

Article: Ángeles Flórez Peón (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): El País
Credits:

Article updated
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Considered the last female socialist militant and, apparently, one of the last of the veterans of the Spanish Civil War. Her article is not long, but I think it is long enough to be posted. _-_Alsor (talk) 10:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support article is in a good shape. PrinceofPunjabTALK 10:04, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Needs Attention) RD: Caleb Carr

Article: Caleb Carr (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

Article updated
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Well known American author. The article needs some work but is not in dreadful shape. (The Alienist may be the best work of historical fiction I've ever read.) Ad Orientem (talk) 21:15, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose as the nominator said, article needs some work. Publication section needs more sourcing and the career sections needs to be divided into multiple subsections. PrinceofPunjabTALK 07:38, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I and others have done some extensive copyediting and sourcing. All of his works appear to be now sourced either in the tables directly or are already cited in the body of the article. Also, I've broken up the career section into three subsections for easier navigation per the suggestion by PrinceofPunjab. I did add a single CN tag for a claim that I could not find the source. But the claim doesn't strike me as controversial, and I don't think that's enough to stop posting. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:57, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neither date of birth nor place of birth appear to be referenced. Schwede66 07:12, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Morgan Spurlock

Article: Morgan Spurlock (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN, LA Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American documentary filmmaker and television producer. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 15:41, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support given his critical acclaim on his documentaries. Lunsel (talk) 15:49, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support: the lack of sources across various sections is a concern, but he's definitely notable enough, and the article is generally in good shape. Oltrepier (talk) 16:54, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Super Size me was huge at the time, it was nominated for an Academy Award, and it actually impacted the fast food industry. Harizotoh9 (talk) 18:17, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've made improvements to the article's sourcing, and it no longer has any citation needed tags. Anyone else is free to make improvements to the article. Harizotoh9 (talk) 01:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Still a couple CN tags and the tables at the bottom are completely unsourced.-Ad Orientem (talk) 01:46, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TDKR Chicago 101 and @Ad Orientem, I cited most of the table. Give the article a look now. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 06:50, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support There's still ten unsourced entries in the filmography section, but overall the article quality has improved. Support Three unsourced listings in filmography should make the article good enough for posting. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 08:23, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support No more CN tags (having assisted a little myself) and the article looks in good shape. Looks ready for Lord Morgan Spurlock to run on ITN. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 06:55, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support filmography section still needs few more sources. PrinceofPunjabTALK 07:40, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May 22

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Science and technology

Sports


(Posted) RD: Rolf-Ernst Breuer

Article: Rolf-Ernst Breuer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): SZ (in German)
Credits:

Article updated
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The banker who made Deutsche Bank international, but made the mistake of one sentence about a customer. Had no article until he died. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:16, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Article has the mild sin of not having more sections but that's nothing serious. This is of main-page quality. Bremps... 02:20, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Darryl Hickman

Article: Darryl Hickman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Hollywood Reporter
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American actor.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:33, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose filmography is unsourced. PrinceofPunjabTALK 07:41, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • In prose, info on parents and grandparents need sources. IMDb needs to be replaced as REFs. Filmography has remained unsourced. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 12:06, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Charlie Colin

Article: Charlie Colin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Rolling Stone, BBC
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Founding member of Train. 240F:7A:6253:1:9055:DE03:C73E:1FC (talk) 16:00, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose-the article cited unreliable sources WANGYIFAN2024 (talk) 04:28, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
':Oppose-As an American musician, there is not enough information about him, and I think it is difficult to consider it a popular topic.Choisieon11:28, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The popularity of the topic isn't a criterion for RD. It's a biographical article that's not a stub, so if it was in appropriate condition to post, it should be posted at RD. However, as noted above, it's not currently in that condition. GenevieveDEon (talk) 08:17, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose two major orange tags. PrinceofPunjabTALK 07:42, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) San Pedro Garza García stage collapse

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Article: San Pedro Garza García stage collapse (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least nine people are killed and sixty are injured in a stage collapse in San Pedro Garza García, Nuevo León, Mexico (Post)
News source(s): El País
Credits:
Oppose, tragic accident but no lasting notability. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 06:43, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose – There's not much here, and I don't expect expanding the article will bring it to a level worth featuring. It's a tragedy that only really impacts the lives of the people involved directly. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 07:31, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per above. Estreyeria (talk) 15:57, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose literally just a bad accident and while there were deaths, something that really won't have any long term effects. Type of this were shouldn't be rushing to create articles for much less feature in ITN. Masem (t) 16:56, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per above. The Kip (contribs) 20:40, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: How is this any different than any of the other crowd crushes, stampedes, nightclub fires, etc. that have been posted to ITN?  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 21:55, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Crushes and stampede usually have a lengthy investigation that determines the causes and steps to prevent in future.
      However, unless it's a major fire like the Grenfell building, most single commercial building fires like the nightclub one are not likely going to have a long term impact if coverage, and should not have been posted, much less have a standalone article, until proven otherwise. — Masem (t) 22:03, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I heard on BBC News that Mexico has started an investigation. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 05:04, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose--I don't think it is necessary to write articles about small-scale accidents.--SU YIQI (talk) 05:09, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support--I think it is necessary to appropriately select some smaller-scale articles, such as accidents, because the occurrence of accidents serves as a warning and prevention.--Yangpeifu (talk) 05:31, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's not the job of Wikipedia in general, or ITN in particular, to provide warnings or prevention. (I find it curious that we have three users giving this as a rationale, which isn't usually brought up at all.) GenevieveDEon (talk) 08:18, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The last four votes above appear to all be from students of the same professor's courses (User:Hanyangprofessor2), which might explain the connection. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 21:58, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Chaotic Enby Indeed. See User:Hanyangprofessor2/Module/News - any suggestions on how to improve it are welcome. Piotrus at Hanyang| reply here 03:21, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per WP:NEWSEVENT, "Routine kinds of news events (including most crimes, accidents, deaths... – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance." See also Singapore Airlines Flight 321 which got much more coverage here but also seems quite routine. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:25, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose tragic accident but it does not appear to have any long lasting impact. PrinceofPunjabTALK 07:49, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. WP:LASTING. If we take into consideration that the president of Mexico said in his omnipotence that no one is guilty, that the state's governor belongs to the same party that was sponsoring the event, that the state compensated those affected in cash and none has indicated they will file complaints, that civil protection is dependent on the state government, and that the party is already promoting newer events, this is unlikely to be relevant in the future. The "investigation" will conclude that the collapse was caused by the "unpredictable" weather and no one is liable as an act of God. This article is likely to be merged or deleted in the future into a more relevant article (most likely 2024 Mexican general election#Disasters) since the event will be occasionally remembered and is unlikely to develop beyond the investigation results. (CC) Tbhotch 01:13, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose And I'd also oppose the terrace collapse in Mallorca, but it probably says something that it and other similar accidents are not nominated. Tragic, but "routine" in the sense that it's 'just' a common accident, there is no underlying news story - no extremist sect destroying buildings, probably no corruption in the construction industry, nothing malicious. It's a human interest story of the tragic death variety, but stories like this should be considered not inherently suitable for ITN unless shown otherwise. RIP of course. Kingsif (talk) 03:04, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: David Wilkie (swimmer)

Article: David Wilkie (swimmer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
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~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:18, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Recognition of Palestine by Ireland, Norway and Spain

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Article: International recognition of the State of Palestine (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The governments of Norway, Ireland, and Spain announce they will recognise the State of Palestine as a sovereign state. In response, Israel recalls several of its ambassadors to these countries. (Post)
News source(s): (BBC News). (The Journal)
Credits:
Taken from Current Events of May 22. Most European countries (especially within the EU) do not recognise Palestine so this is pretty significant. LynxesDesmond 🐈 (talk) 10:59, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) Artificial Intelligence Act

Article: Artificial Intelligence Act (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The European Union passes its Artificial Intelligence Act which will register and restrict AIs with high and unacceptable risk levels. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The European Union passes the Artificial Intelligence Act, to regulate artificial intelligence it regards as being risky
Alternative blurb II: ​ EU approves landmark Artificial Intelligence Act
News source(s): CNBC, DW, Reuters,
Credits:

Article updated

In December, it was agreed to post this when the Act was passed and the Council of Ministers has now done this. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:34, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support as previously agreed Ion.want.uu (talk) 16:24, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pull. This has no relevance whatsoever. It's not on the front page of BBC Europe (https://www.bbc.com/news/world/europe), RFE (https://www.rferl.org/), RTE (https://www.rte.ie/news/), FAZ (https://www.faz.net/aktuell/), DW (https://www.dw.com/en/europe/s-1433), nor Al Jazeera (https://www.aljazeera.com/europe/). This seems like a completely minor event and barely worthy of a blurb. And besides, such a law has no immediate significance anyway like a law on gay marriage or something so prescient. This was a mistake to post. QueensanditsCrazy (talk) 13:02, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The fact that maybe some news sources dont emphasize this doesn't mean that it's unimportant, but the fact that basically no news source that I could think of that covers Europe is even announcing it even on the margins of their front page, shows you there is a broad consensus that this is not that prescient and important to emphasize. This event is, essentially, not actually in the news. If anything, it's dwarfed by NVIDIA's earnings report yesterday. QueensanditsCrazy (talk) 13:04, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, 'prescient' is the wrong word - I meant 'salient'. QueensanditsCrazy (talk) 13:13, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This hasn't even been mentioned in the EU's Featured News section (https://european-union.europa.eu/news-and-events/news-and-stories_en). This clearly isn't even a big deal to the EU. It does appear on (currently) the third page of "Latest news from EU institutions and bodies" (https://european-union.europa.eu/news-and-events/press-releases_en?page=2) - but when you go to the linked EDPS (European Data Protection Supervisor)'s website, you find it's not even the most important thing to that department: https://www.edps.europa.eu/_en. Basically, it's not even, in any sense relevant to an "In the News" wikipedia section, in the news coming directly from the EU authorities. QueensanditsCrazy (talk) 13:12, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pull Never mind what outside news coverage looks like, our own article doesn't give any indication that there's anything at all significant about this legislation. The fact that the "Reactions" section looks like this tells me that either this is simply not notable on a Main Page level or that our article is severely lacking in explaining why it in fact is. Either way, it should not be in ITN at this stage. I would also disagree with the characterization of the previous discussion as "agree[ment] to post this when the Act was passed" - only one person active in that discussion said we should definitely post it if it passes, two said some version of we should discuss again if it does, and everyone else just vaguely said "wait." -Elmer Clark (talk) 03:31, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The contents of the article are well established. and as per above.
Hkm5420 (talk) 04:19, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Meh Seems like a classic case of mob mentality, based on nothing but collective suspicion of this being the right thing to do. Objectively, though, it was eight in a row, then four in a row, interrupted only by a meager double. By my count and understanding of nominations, the Ayes have it. As a subjectively honest man, though, misleading people with a false premise this way feels like cheating. There's no rule against it, though, so no reason to disqualify what's done (maybe just don't let it happen again?). InedibleHulk (talk) 10:54, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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