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Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the top. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination. Every approved hook will appear on the main page.

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For a simplified version of these instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK.
For a step-by-step guide to filling out the {{NewDYKnom}} template, see Template:NewDYKnomination/guide.

Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

  1. Nom without image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= }}
  2. Nom with image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= | image= | caption= }}
    To include more than one new or expanded article in a single hook: |article2= |article3= |article4= | (etc)
    To include more than one author: |author2= |author3= | (etc)
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    To add a comment: |comment=
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Do not wikilink the article title, or the author username field; the template will wikilink them automatically. Do wikilink the article title in the hook field, however.
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Do not include a signature (~~~~) after the template.
Do not use non-free images in your hook suggestion.

An example of how to use the template is given below. Don't forget to fill out the rollover text, so people know what the image is of! Full details are at {{NewDYKnom}}: 

{{subst:NewDYKnom
 | article    = Example
 | status     = new<!--(or)  expanded-->
 | hook       = ... that this [[article]] is an  '''[[example]]''' ''(pictured)''?
 | author     = User
 | nominator  =
 | image      = Example.png
 | rollover   = An example image
 | alttext    = Description of the image
 | comment    =
}}
  • Note that you should only use one of the above templates for the original hook. If you want to suggest a second, alternative hook for the same article submission, just type it in manually. The above templates output useful code for each submission and if you employ them for alternative hooks, you will mess up the page formatting.
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If you want to confirm that an article is ready to be placed on a later update, or note that there is an issue with the article or hook, please use the following symbols to point the issues out:

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Please consider using {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page, in case they do not notice that there is an issue.

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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on October 2

Wheatland (James Buchanan House)

A three-story brick house.

5x expanded by Niagara (talk). Self nom at 00:10, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on October 1

1975–76 Princeton Tigers men's basketball team and 1976–77 Princeton Tigers men's basketball team

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 00:43, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fulham Davies

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

When it Rains, it Pours (30 Rock)

Created by ThinkBlue (talk). Self nom at 21:17, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Bill Green (basketball)

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 20:12, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Drowzee

  • ... that the Pokémon Drowzee is based on the mythological creature baku, who is similar both in its resemblance to a tapir and in its ability to eat dreams and nightmares?

Created by New Age Retro Hippie (talk). Self nom at 20:08, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

766th Independent Infantry Regiment (North Korea)

5x expanded by User:Ed! (talk). Self nom at 19:01, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Parasexuality

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 16:24, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

With a suggestive term like parasexuality, I wonder if we couldn't find a hookier hook. How about
I just feel that a hook which defines the term "parasexuality" will decrease the chance that a reader will click on the article. Not sure if the article presently supports either of these, but it easily could. EdChem (talk) 17:00, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Great idea. I added a citation for P. roqueforti making blue cheese. I like the wording of the second alt. Sasata (talk) 17:10, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Holy Cross Church, Burley

The east end of a stone church seen through a graveyard from the north. On the right is a battlemented tower and the nave extends to the left

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 15:47, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


HMS Avenger (D14)

Self nom and x5 expansion by --Jim Sweeney (talk) 13:46, 1 October 2010 (UTC) [reply]

--Demiurge1000 (talk) 14:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Old St Bartholomew's Church, Lower Sapey

Part of the south face of a small stone church, seen from an angle, with tiled roofs and a gabled, wooden porch

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 12:20, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Waterside Press

  • ... that Waterside Press is a "niche publisher [who] specialise in legal topics"?

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 02:11, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Spring Canyon, Utah

Created by The Utahraptor (talk). Self nom at 01:53, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 30

Hiesville

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Patsw (talk). Self nom at 08:09, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pthirus gorillae

A magnified image of Pthirus gorillae, a short and broad six-legged louse.

Created/expanded by Forty two (talk). Self nom at 03:09, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Halloween ??? Victuallers (talk) 14:57, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Halloween is okay.--  Forty two  20:53, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1971–72 Princeton Tigers men's basketball team & 1974–75 Princeton Tigers men's basketball team

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 02:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of players banned or suspended by the NBA

Created by Chrishomingtang (talk). Self nom at 01:58, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Henry (basketball)

  • ... that Bill Henry was listed as Rice University's all-time greatest men's basketball player in the 2009 book ESPN College Basketball Encyclopedia: The Complete History of the Men's Game?

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 23:52, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Geneva State Forest

Created by Dincher (talk). Self nom at 23:21, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kataragama temple

Created by Kanatonian (talk). Self nom at 22:17, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Canadian pipe mine

  • ... that the explosive charge in some Canadian pipe mines soon deteriorated into a porridge-like mush?
  • Comment: Moved from user space to main space today

Created by Gaius Cornelius (talk). Self nom at 21:41, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Inkayacu

  • ... that the recently described extinct penguin Inkayacu from the Eocene of Peru probably had gray and reddish brown feathers, unlike the black and white feathers of living penguins?

Created by Smokeybjb (talk). Self nom at 20:09, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Church of St Nicholas, Sapareva Banya

Side view of a small Byzantine-style medieval church constructed out of bricks and mortar. The church's entrance is visible. A street lamp and greenery in the surrounding area.

Created/expanded by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 19:56, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


St Nicholas' Church, Gloucester

A stone church in a town seen from the southeast. St the far end is a large tower surmounted by a truncated spire with pinnacles and, at the top, a ball finial

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 17:52, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Sir Ronald Ross Institute Of Parasitology

A portrait picture of Sir Ronald Ross

ALT 1 ... that Sir Ronald Ross (pictured) won the Nobel Prize mainly due to his experiments on malaria at the then Begumpet military hospital in Hyderabad?

Created by Mspraveen (talk). Self nom at 17:07, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Myriostoma

Two star-shaped fungi on the ground, both with numerous perforations in their spherical spore sacs.

5x expanded by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 16:45, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

St Michael's Church, Michaelchurch

A small, simple, stone church with a stone slate roof, a bellcote with a pyramidal roof, a porch and small windows, seen from the southwest

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 14:44, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Angel Island (novel)

Created by Bruce1ee (talk). Self nom at 13:45, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dreaming of You (album)

5x expanded by AJona1992 (talk) 13:40, 30 September 2010 (UTC) . Self nom at 9:23, 30 September 2010 (EST)[reply]

Mekia Cox

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 13:33, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Standard of Perfection: Show Cats

5x expanded by MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 10:13, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hook is not specifically stated as a fact, and cited, anywhere in the article. Hook is not very interesting anyway - it just tells us what this documentary is about. Article is currently at AfD (although trending towards Keep). --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:04, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agreed. Hook is boring. Here's a more interesting ALT supported by sources:

Sverre Iversen

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 08:17, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Gliese 581 g

Created by Philg88 (talk). Self nom at 21:43, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 29

HMS Enterprise (1864)

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Self nom at 15:14, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. Post Office (Pearl River, New York)

A brick building with a large main block and two smaller wings, seen from its left. Across the front metal letters spell out "United States Post Office, Pearl River, New York 10965". In the foreground are assorted mailboxes, private carrier drop boxes and newspaper boxes.

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 16:17, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Motor-paced racing

Motor-paced racing, Berlin, 1958

Created by Ekem (talk). Self nom at 14:03, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


William Russell Lane-Joynt

three-quarter portrait of an elderly gentleman with full beard facing slightly left

Created by Ww2censor (talk). Self nom at 04:13, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Gay Street (Knoxville)‎

Created by Bms4880 (talk). Nominated by Orlady (talk) at 03:18, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Don Doll

  • ... that Don Doll, the only player in NFL history to register 10 or more interceptions in 3 separate seasons, changed his surname to "Doll" after being discharged from the Marines?

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 02:14, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Steve Munisteri

ALT: that Steve Munisteri, the chairman of the Texas Republican Party, is also a boxing promoter in Houston?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 01:57, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Targeted killing

  • ... that 2.5-inch-long "nano-drones" are now being developed for targeted killing which, like little killer bees, will be able to follow their target, even entering a room through an open window?
Created by Epeefleche (talk). Self nom|Nominated by --Epeefleche (talk) 01:37, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Dang, that's a lot of copy-paste to check. I got to 5x a little after Targeted assassination#Con. Grsz11 02:29, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

four 1960s Princeton Tigers men's basketball teams

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 01:00, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1967–68 Princeton Tigers men's basketball team & 1968–69 Princeton Tigers men's basketball team

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 02:02, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ronald Skirth

5x expanded by Dwab3 (talk). Self nom at 21:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kiruna Mine

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Self nom at 21:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. BineMai 17:52, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2010 European terror plot

created by User:AMuseo, (talk). Nominated by User:AMuseo (talk) 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Gastric antral vascular ectasia

Image of GAVE showing watermelon signs

5x expanded by Bearian (talk). Self nom at 19:58, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


James Stovall

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 18:47, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: Would it be possible to find a more surprising or eye-catching hook? It is quite normal for directors to praise their own actors, singers, dancers etc.; just as it is normal for actors to say how great it was to work with the director. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:27, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Colonia Peralvillo

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 18:36, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Throne of Weapons

an armed chair welded together and made out of modern AK47s etc

  • Comment: Its a bit April 1st but there are lots of other hooks possible

Created/expanded by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 18:34, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the approval - I thought items on permanent display were exempted from copyright. But discuss on commons. I have deleted it here pending the finding. Victuallers (talk) 19:49, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Patently not under copyright according to Freedom of Panorama#United Kingdom, but now that Sandstein has blithely opened a deletion request without considering the facts of the case it is unlikely that the picture can be used for DYK as Commons deletion requests can take weeks or months to close. BabelStone (talk) 23:15, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I've closed my own deletion request since it has been correctly pointed out to me that British FOP covers this sort of thing. I've reenabled the image.  Sandstein  05:37, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mässmogge

Mässmogge

Created by Sandstein (talk). Self nom at 17:44, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Inocybe cookei

Four ochre coloured mushrooms growing from soil among dead leaves

Created by J Milburn (talk). Self nom at 17:08, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Una Padel

  • ... that Una Padel, a criminal-justice reformer, was described as having a "profound sense of social justice" which "stemmed from an incisive understanding of and empathy with the underdog"?

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 16:13, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deam Lake State Recreation Area, Charles C. Deam

Created by Dincher (talk). Self nom at 14:10, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wayne Winterrowd

  • ... that Wayne Winterrowd was called "one of the driving forces in North American horticulture", while his gardens in Readsboro, Vermont were said to represent "American gardening at its best"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 13:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Four boxes of liberty

  • ... that the concept that four boxes of liberty include the soap box, ballot box, jury box and cartridge box, dates back to 1830?

5x expanded by Aymatth2 (talk). Nominated by Aymatth2 (talk) at 13:34, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Not 5x expanded (1836 to 5779 characters, according to prosesizebytes.js). Also the article is currently at AfD, it can be reconsidered after AfD ends but it would still need to be about 9000 characters to qualify. rʨanaɢ (talk) 13:40, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't think so. The shorter version was in place for less than a day (removal started 01:25, re-expansion started 18:54). Expansion is measured from the version that was the status quo before expansion, which is the August 11 version of about 2400 bytes (1836 characters readable prose); for DYK purposes, we don't care how junky that version was or how much you improved it. If you think the article's quality has been significantly improved, you can try WP:GA instead. rʨanaɢ (talk) 13:39, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I suppose the rules have to be very clear-cut to avoid endless arguments. I can't see putting it in for WP:GA. It is interesting (to me) but sort of a trivial subject. The moral seems to be to expand in user space, then put the expanded version into mainspace all at once, so the later expand start date gives the shorter version time to become the status quo. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:03, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thinking further, I can see that an article like this may be disturbing to readers in the USA, where the topic is real and immediate. Wikipedia should be politically correct. For future reference, how long does it take for a version to become status quo? I do not want to repeat this mistake. Aymatth2 (talk) 22:50, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is not a strict cutoff; reviewers exercise their judgment. In this case it's clear that the article was not really 5x expanded (it has some additions and removals, but the net expansion was not 5x). The length of time an article would need to sit around in its shortened state varies from case to case. rʨanaɢ (talk) 23:26, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Again: DYK does not care what the quality of the pre-existing version was. You are welcome to start a discussion at the talk page about this but I think you're just looking for a loophole. Like I said, reviewers exercise their judgment in these cases (otherwise we could just replace them with a bot that scans article histories) and in this case the choice is quite clear. rʨanaɢ (talk) 00:20, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Discussion page for the rules is thataway. But for what it's worth, rule A4 clearly states that expansion is calculated from the previously existing article, no matter whether you kept any of it—trimming part of it right before the expansion begins doesn't lower your threshhold. And before anyone complains that "oh the rule is hard to find because it's buried in a bunch of other rules"...the whole reason that situation exists is because of people insisting on "clear" and "simple and objective" rules (your words, not mine [2] and [3]) to cover every possible contingency in an inherently subjective project. rʨanaɢ (talk) 00:42, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • In this example the editor who nominated the article for AfD trimmed it drastically before nominating, and another editor (me) did a rescue job without looking at previous versions and nominated for DYK. That is irrelevant history. The tagline is far from politically correct and should never have been submitted. But it may be possible and useful to clarify and simplify the rules on expansion count for cases where there is no resemblance between the old and new versions. Aymatth2 (talk) 01:44, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Flame fougasse

A demonstration of flame fougasse, somewhere in Britain. A car is surrounded in flames and a huge cloud of smoke. In the foreground, a soldier can be seen running from left to right.

  • ... a flame fougasse can shoot a jet of flame 10 feet (3.0 m) wide and 30 yards (27 m) long?

Created by Gaius Cornelius (talk). Nominated by Gaius Cornelius (talk) at 12:44, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Stricken. (In the future, Gaius, you can help reviewers by indicating, using the |comment= parameter, when the article was moved to mainspace.)
My appologies. I did know that, but forgot on this occasion. Gaius Cornelius (talk) 17:23, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fred Lord Hilton eyewitness account gives a general description. The figures come from the Barel Flame Traps document, the relevent sentence reads "40-gallon barrel fougasses project a beam of buring fuel about 10 feet wide to a range of about 30 yards." Gaius Cornelius (talk) 17:23, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'll AGF it. But if a given reference doesn't contain the fact, it shouldn't be cited there as if it does; it sends the reader on a wild goose chase. I have edited the article accordingly. Everything else is good to go. rʨanaɢ (talk) 22:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Ancient synagogue (Eshtemoa)

Created by Chesdovi (talk). Nominated by Chesdovi (talk) at 11:27, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Holy Trinity Church, Blatherwycke

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 11:18, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Balaji Sadasivan

A middle-aged Indian man wearing a black suit, white shirt and red tie speaking into a microphone.

5x expanded by Jacklee (talk), based on an article created by Black Falcon (talk). Nominated by Jacklee (talk) at 06:51, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Lactarius vinaceorufescens

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 03:38, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Capricorn Silvereye

Created by Maias (talk). Self nom at 01:58, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • With these birds, it means that the pairs that build the nests and defend the territories are the genetic (or "true") parents of the chicks they raise. That is, they are sexually "faithful" to each other. This does not always hold with many other species of birds (e.g. many fairy-wrens) of which genetic testing has shown that the females are prone to having extra-pair copulations. There is some explanation of this here. Maias (talk) 00:20, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Centre for Crime and Justice Studies

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 01:48, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 28

Palestinian drive-by shooting

created by User:AMuseo, User:Shuki, User:Jalapenos do exist, User:George (talk). Nominated by User:AMuseo (talk) (talk) 28 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Article seems to be treating it as a specific form of warfare in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I any case, that's not a argument for rejecting the hook, that's an argument for an AFD. Circéus (talk) 18:50, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Secrets of Scientology

Created by TheRetroGuy (talk), Cirt (talk). Self nom at 15:13, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1958–59 Princeton Tigers men's basketball team, 1959–60 Princeton Tigers men's basketball team & 1960–61 Princeton Tigers men's basketball team

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 00:33, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Prince Heinrich XXXII Reuss of Köstritz

Created by Ruby2010 (talk). Self nom at 23:52, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

xxxHolic: A Midsummer Night's Dream

Created by Joe Chill (talk). Self nom at 23:13, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

HMS Garmer

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 22:36, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Endrulat, Borussia Mönchengladbach 12–0 Borussia Dortmund

Created by Jared Preston (talk). Self nom at 21:53, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


BBC Somali Service

5x expanded by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 21:27, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • True, the poll took place no later than 1999, but two recent studies on the subject of Somalis in the UK, one dated 2006 and the other 2009, which looked at media consumption (amongst other things) saw fit to reference this poll, so no reason we shouldn't. Christopher Connor (talk) 18:39, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stafford Village Four Corners Historic District

A blue building with a peaked roof, steps on the right and a large open tower at right rear with a conical red metal object on top.

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 20:57, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Scyllarus pygmaeus

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 20:22, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

William Harrison (physician)

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 19:03, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Colonia Morelos

A close up of a Santa Muerte image

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 17:19, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


St Andrew's Church, Wroxeter

A circular sandstone font standing on an octagonal base, bearing a floral decoration

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 15:19, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Gus Bevona

  • ... that Gus Bevona resigned from local SEIU 32BJ in 1999, in the face of criticism for annual pay of $531,529 in 1997, more than 17 times the salary of the janitors and building workers he represented?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 14:23, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Koha Jonë

  • ... that the newspaper Koha Jonë is seen as the first newspaper that achieved press freedom in Albania after the Communist downfall in 1991?

5x expanded by Vinie007 (talk). Nominated by Vinie007 (talk) at 10:32, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    • First sentence is a machine translation of its own first on-line reference. And the sentence makes no sense when translated into English where it talks of the cleverness of the name of the paper - which may work in Albanian but not English. DYK entries must have 1500 chars of original text Victuallers (talk) 14:35, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed the spelling problem --Vinie007 16:08, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gazeta 55

5x expanded by Vinie007 (talk). Nominated by Vinie007 (talk) at 10:32, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Guepinia

A cluster of a salmon-pink ear-shaped fungus growing on the ground.

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 06:02, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Night of Enitharmon's Joy

The Night of Enitharmon's Joy by William Blake, 1795

Created (and expanded today) by Auréola (talk). Self nom at 4:20, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

150 chars required, right? I can suggest:

A Young Tiger Playing with its Mother

Eugene Delacroix, A Young Tiger Playing with its Mother, 1830

Created by Auréola (talk). Self nom at 3:55, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

You're right. So I suggest:
What do you think? Thanks, NandO talk! 01:21, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article is phrased slightly differently, will AGF accept the following hook (added "said to have"): ... that French artist Eugène Delacroix is said to have used his own pet cat as model to paint the tigers of A Young Tiger Playing with its Mother (pictured, 1830)? StrPby (talk) 05:03, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Plymouth Congregational Church (Lawrence, Kansas)

Plymouth Congregational Church in 1870

Created by KimChee (talk). Self nom at 03:28, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Red Cross parcel

Parcel for prisoners of war wrapped in brown paper and sealed with string, carrying the symbols of the Red Cross and the order of St John
Red Cross parcel

Created by Ecjmartin (talk). Self nom at 02:02, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done. - Ecjmartin (talk) 12:05, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Premises

Created by Silverchemist (talk). Self nom at 00:33, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 27

Tore Holden

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 20:38, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1978 NBA Draft

Larry Bird, wearing the Boston Celtics jersey, is trying to shoot a basketball.

5x expanded by Martin tamb (talk). Self nom at 07:30, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


List of conservation areas in Brighton and Hove

  • Comment: Refs [16] and [17] in the lead cover this. I have started Carlton Hill, Brighton, but it is still under construction. Will embolden it in the hook and make a double-DYK when it's ready—hopefully within the next 48 hours.

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 22:36, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rhyme Book

5x expanded by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 02:29, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Great Flood of 1862

Created by Asiaticus (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 23:30, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Hill Smith

Created by M2545 (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 23:30, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Miriam Shapira-Luria

  • ... that Miriam Shapira-Luria, known for her beauty, taught Talmud to elite young men from behind a curtain so that they would not get distracted by her appearance?

Created by Brewcrewer (talk), Jayjg (talk). Self nom at 16:32, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pakuashipi, Quebec

5x expanded by P199 (talk). Nominated by P199 (talk) at 17:10, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Grainsby Halt railway station

Created by Lamberhurst (talk). Self nom at 11:50, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Josh Capon

Created by Tommy2010 (talk). Self nom at 11:29, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Is there a more startling hook? I'm not sure I'm surprised. If it wasn't for the BLP issue then I think a better hook would be Capon said it was impressive to cook a 3 course meal for ten dollars a sitting Victuallers (talk) 09:34, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose we could add the word "gourmet" but it's a 3-courses for $10/person. That's not necessarily feasible. Tommy! 13:46, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Modified hook. Tommy! 16:10, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bingolotto (Norway)

  • ... that after BingoLotto in Norway was launched in 1993 and cancelled in 1994, an attempted revive in 1996 was stalled and stopped by the government in 1998 after being a part of the election campaign in 1997?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 08:32, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fred Evans (comedian)

Created by Ghmyrtle (talk). Self nom at 08:09, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Amalfi Cathedral

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 03:40, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date and length check up, assuming good faith on hook reference. There's one thing that bugs me with the hook, though. I presume the doors were the first bronze doors in Italy, but I fear the wording doesn't quite make it clear. It could be interpreted as first doors in Italy cast in Constantinople or even first doors in Italy, if you like :) — Toдor Boжinov — 17:10, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edward Gal

  • ... that Dutch dressage rider Edward Gal and his horse have been called "rock stars in the horse world" after setting multiple world records in top competition?

5x expanded by Dale Arnett (talk). Self nom at 02:24, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jimi Heselden

Created by Smallman12q (talk), Finlay McWalter (talk). Nominated by Alansohn (talk) at 01:37, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Zef Jubani

Zef Jubani

Created by ZjarriRrethues (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 01:07, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

HMS Minotaur (1863)

A five-masted warship, painted black, with furled sails and two funnels

  • ... that the five-masted ironclad HMS Minotaur and her sisters were described as "the dullest performers under canvas of the whole masted fleet of their day, and no ships ever carried so much dress to so little purpose"?

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 23:45, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's a great-sounding hook and a great article. But the hook is misleading, and indeed even a mis-quotation. Per the article, Minotaur was one of three ships described in this way, and the three ships together were described as "the dullest performers under canvas". Minotaur was not a single ship described alone as "the dullest performer". --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:34, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, but it still applies to the ship. I've rephrased to include her sisters, but I've probably blown the 300 character limit.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 22:00, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Possible ruthless trimming of the hook, if needed;
ALT1 ... that HMS Minotaur and her sisters were called "the dullest performers under canvas of the whole masted fleet of their day, and no ships ever carried so much dress to so little purpose"?
--Demiurge1000 (talk) 03:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Whitefriars, Bristol

5x expanded by Jezhotwells (talk). Self nom at 23:35, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wandsworth Shield

circular bronze shield with a domed boss and two stylised bird designs

  • ... that the Wandsworth Shield (pictured) has a repoussée design of two large birds with outstretched wings and trailing tail feathers, and is considered to be a masterpiece of British Celtic art?

Created by BabelStone (talk). Self nom at 23:25, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Totten

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 23:13, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Brian Moran (baseball)

Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 21:42, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Church of Saints Peter and Paul, Nikopol

frontal view of a partially destroyed medieval church constructed out of interchanging rows of stone and red brick

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Nominated by TodorBozhinov (talk) at 21:14, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Ignatius III Atiyah

  • ... that the two claiming Melkite Patriarchs, Ignatius III Atiyah and Cyril IV Dabbas, were both consecrated on the same day, April 24, 1619 but in different places?

Created by A ntv (talk). Self nom at 20:40, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Princess Marie Adelheid of Lippe-Biesterfeld

Created by Ruby2010 (talk). Self nom at 18:53, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bhutan-Thailand relations

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 17:06, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph L. Melnick

  • ... that Joseph L. Melnick found that the most common way that polio was spread was by fecal contamination of soiled hands and that the poliovirus could survive for extended periods in sewage?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 16:31, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Benjamin F. White (Montana politician)

5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 16:16, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bangladesh Ansars

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 16:05, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. How bout this -

Village Defence Party

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 16:02, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: This is a really interesting hook (in my opinion) and a really interesting article, but the hook fact is sourced to the organization that is responsible for the creation and control of the subject of the article and hook. Not sure if this is appropriate or not, can someone else comment? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:02, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have added another source for the point that at least 50% of the force is composed of women. As for the source of the Ansars/VDP website, it is a government institution site, not really a questionable source. Shiva (Visnu) 00:59, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dorothy M. Horstmann, Robert W. McCollum

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 13:13, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • "spread in the bloodstream"? This seems like "within the blood circulation, from one part of the body to another part of the body". Do you mean "bloodborne"? And "leading to"? Do you mean "paving the way for"? Or "setting the stage for"? Not sure about the cause-&-effect relationship here. --64.231.53.243 (talk) 03:50, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sharon Cherop

Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self nom at 12:53, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Torlonia Vase

Created by Wetman (talk). Self nom at 12:48, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • off-line article backing article and hook are accepted in good faith, and this link to the source cited in the article covers most of what's there, though further access to the rest of the article would be a pretty stiff $15. The article and hook length are fine. Alansohn (talk) 14:40, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The quote that I was able to manipulate from the article says that "For a long time it was also the largest in diameter of known antique marble vases and one of the few with a figurative frieze". The word "marble" should be added to the hook to reflect the source and the possibility that there were larger vases made of other material, such as earthenware. Alansohn (talk) 14:44, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gilgel Gibe II Power Station

  • ... that shortly after its inauguration, part of the Gilgel Gibe II Power Station's 26 km (16 mi) tunnel, which was "considered one of the most difficult tunnel projects ever undertaken", collapsed?

Created/nom by--NortyNort (Holla) 10:25, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed "had" from before "collapsed" as it isn't necessary. Smartse (talk) 20:20, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A Pumpkin Full of Nonsense

Created by Slgrandson (talk). Self nom at 09:53, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't this article be at A Pumpkin Full of Nonsense instead? It seems as if the rest is the series title, and the latter is the actual episode title. Apart from that, what's so special about the fact that a franchise owner does something with its franchise? A more captivating hook would be better... Fram (talk) 09:58, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT: ... that the creation of Selchow and Righter's Scrabble People, who appeared in 1985's syndicated cartoon special A Pumpkin Full of Nonsense, involved the designers of Cabbage Patch Kids? --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 20:48, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As for the move, you're right. They also appeared in an educational video back then ... and in at least two books. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 20:54, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Babatunde Jose

Created by Aridd (talk). Self nom at 08:54, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Black people and crime in the United Kingdom

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 07:23, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I know Wikipedia is not censored but just as we do not feature overly negative hooks about living people on the front page, altering this hook might be similarly advisable. Perhaps a hook could be crafted noting that "Black males accounted for 29 percent of the male victims of gun crime and 24 percent of the male victims of knife crime." which is also significantly disproportionate to the population as a whole while focusing on a perhaps less inflammatory aspect of the data. - Dravecky (talk) 10:00, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm also concerned about using this hook on the front page. While I don't object in principle to an article of this sort providing it is balanced and contextualised, rather than simply suggesting that a group of people are somehow predisposed to committing crime, I'm worried that that complexity is lost in any one-sentence hook. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:43, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • For instance, there is research demonstrating that ethnicity is not a significant predictor of crime, a point that I have just added to the article. People reading the hook would probably come to a different conclusion. Cordless Larry (talk) 14:17, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I will have to resist these comments. There was some activity on the article but didn't really affect the hook, though have slightly clarified a few words. I don't think the opposing comments have basis in the rules. To me, this is an interesting hook, likely to draw readers, and is based on statistics, so the factual grounding is solid. Of course it doesn't explain the details but that can't be done in 200 characters. Christopher Connor (talk) 23:59, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't doubt this is an interesting hook was unsure about it. Based off your comments, Dravecky and the hook tweak, I don't have a problem.--NortyNort (Holla) 12:15, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You're free to "resist these comments" just as I am free to feel strongly that the current proposed hook is inappropriate for the front page as inflammatory and unduly negative, especially without context as you note above. - Dravecky (talk) 07:07, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Only my argument is based on the rules whereas yours is not. There is no issue with 'context', neither did I say so (I merely rather redundantly noted that further explanation would be helpful, as always), and you haven't made clear what 'context' you mean. Indeed if there's any context to be had it would be by noting the percentage of the black population versus the Met Police statistics (which may or may not make them look better). Your hook would appear to have the same 'issue' and additionally is less interesting and more unwieldy. Christopher Connor (talk) 09:27, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
While I confess to a wide interpretation of 'living individuals', my comments are based on the rule "Articles and hooks which focus on negative aspects of living individuals should be avoided." Other editors are, of course, allowed to disagree with my interpretation but I apply that rule consistently in all of my hook reviews. - Dravecky (talk) 09:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe there is a way to reword the hook to focus on the gangs, who is more narrow but then again referring to a negative segment; violent gangs. Also, Operation Trident would work in an ALT.--NortyNort (Holla) 12:40, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The group is about 800,000 in number (London estimates) so concerns over 'living people' appear to be misplaced. If you feel that DYK should have rules on 'controversial' hooks, the place to pursue that is on the DYK talk page, not here. Christopher Connor (talk) 14:50, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As above, point to a rule which backs up your opinion instead of simply declaring you don't like this hook. Christopher Connor (talk) 15:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Don't need one, DYK leaves a lot of leeway to reviewers, but "Articles and hooks which focus on negative aspects of living individuals should be avoided" is at Wikipedia:Did you know#DYK rules. There is certainly another hook that can be less negative, like taking action to help resolve issues of black crime, etc., that this kind is not needed. No need to be needlessly insensitive, whatever your intentions are. Grsz11 15:34, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That only applies to individuals or small groups, not to unidentifiable, generic groups of 800,000 strong which account for 12 percent of a major city. Additionally, the same 'hook' appears in the first sentence of the report by The Sunday Telegraph, who initially reported it, and also the Daily Mail; so, for example, nothing is being done that our reliable sources haven't done. Also, this story is one of the most recent being only three months old. Based on this, I fail to see how the opposing comments can stand and why this shouldn't be moved into the queue. Christopher Connor (talk) 16:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Out of curiosity, I went to the links you posted, and did a search for the phrase "black people." Here's what came up: "black people are at least six times more likely to be stopped and searched than their white counterparts" and "black people are more than twice as likely to have their cases dismissed, suggesting unfairness in the system." Neither of those statements is referred to in your article. Why is that? 28bytes (talk) 16:50, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It just seems to a lot of people that you've cherry-picked certain information to include, and have neglected others, as 28bytes points out. This certainly isn't the only hook possible from the article. Adding balancing information like mentioned above provides even more possibilities. Grsz11 16:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Please, these comments and insinuations aren't helpful. 28bytes's particular issues are distracting and best dealt with at the article, not here. Suggestions that I've been cherry-picking are not only untrue, but also have the effect of putting me in a bad light and seem like an attempt to avoid responding to the comments I made earlier. Christopher Connor (talk) 19:34, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My suggestion: incorporate the information from the quotes I referenced to give the article a little more balance, rename the article to something less inflammatory (Race and crime in the United Kingdom, perhaps?) so that it doesn't run afoul of WP:AND, and use the information from one of those quotes as the hook. With those changes, I suspect there will be fewer objections to it going to the queue. 28bytes (talk) 20:07, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If I was going to do all that you say, I may as well retire. Christopher Connor (talk) 20:46, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This hook (and likely this article) isn't suitable for placement on the main page due to its subject. It just won't work there. Prodego talk 20:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This concern is identical to the previous ones (which have been addressed or are outside the scope of the rules). Since this appears to be wider than this article, see the thread I opened on the talk page. Christopher Connor (talk) 15:26, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Quite frankly, the hook comes off as racist; even if you're stating a sourced fact, the way you're stating it makes it sound as if you're trying to make a point. (I'm not saying you are a racist, maybe your intentions are innocent, but this is nonetheless the way it looks to an uninvolved reader.) Not to mention that the article itself looks like borderline OR to me. I will let others deal with the article itself and decide whether something needs to be done with it (I see there are already merge suggestions coming up), but the nomination is certainly not appropriate for DYK. rʨanaɢ (talk) 02:31, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • I think the BLP argument is a red herring as this is a large group--not what BLP was designed for. 28bytes make some valid points except I think if it is renamed to "race and crime..." people will bitch about why other minorities aren't mentioned. Some of the objections smack of political correctness because it's a well documented fact that minorities in many countries are arrested and incarcerated at a higher rate than the racial majority in those countries and articles neutrally and objectively addressing a sensitive topic should not be turned away. The second legit objection is that even if a hook is well sourced and true, we avoid hooks that'd upset large groups of people or are highly sensitive (ex: we didn't put a 9/11 hook up this Sep 11th, we put it up a few days later). It appears many of the concerns have already been addressed, so in my view add in quotes 28bytes mentioned, tone down the hook, and an acceptable hook will result. As for the Jewish lawyer article, there are similar articles such as Stereotypes of African Americans. Copying this to Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Extreme_resistance_to_my_DYK also. — Rlevse • Talk • 12:05, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I will compromise by proposing a new hook. Source. Christopher Connor (talk) 19:47, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note there's now a 'move' proposal but to a different topic, which is not appropriate, and people are merely voting and putting forth unsound arguments which are being easily refuted. Christopher Connor (talk) 19:57, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    • As the article creator, you're not really in a position to tell everyone else that everyone who doesn't agree with you is wrong (the blunt way of saying "putting forth unsound arguments"). As for "being easily refuted", the person responding to every comment at the move discussion is you; let someone else be the judge of how good a job you are doing refuting the arguments. For now we should just sit back and see what consensus emerges. rʨanaɢ (talk) 22:31, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Irving J. Moore

ALT1: that Irving J. Moore directed the 1980 episode "Who shot J.R.?" of the CBS soap opera Dallas?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:39, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and sourcing for article and hook are fine. ALT1 is no issue, but the original hook is mentioned in the Los Angeles Times obituary, but does not have an explicit source in the article, which should be added. The Dynasty episode was the highest-ranked TV program in history at the time, and was a major cultural meme while the cliffhanger was still left unresolved. Any of these factoids might make the hook more interesting. Alansohn (talk) 16:47, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chesterfield Island stingaree, New Caledonian stingaree, butterfly stingaree

5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 04:33, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on September 26

Albert Greenwood Brown

Albert Greenwood Brown mug shot

Created by KimChee (talk). Self nom at 07:44, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Pity (William Blake)

Pity by William Blake

Created by Auréola (talk). Self nom at 01:48, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Action of 25 April 1898

Created by ElBufon (talk). Nominated by Bejinhan (talk) at 14:04, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


1921–22 Princeton Tigers men's basketball team & 1954–55 Princeton Tigers men's basketball team

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 22:28, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You Are the Girl

  • ... that "You Are the Girl" was The Cars' first – and last – Top 40 hit after they regrouped from a three-year hiatus in 1987?

Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 21:08, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kalaymyo

A market Street in Kalayamyo

  • ... that during World War II, Kalaymyo (pictured) was an important regroup point for the British during their retreat from Burma in 1942?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 09:01, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. Post Office (Spring Valley, New York)

A brick building with a pointed top in the center and windows with rounded tops, lit from the left rear by the sun. In front, from left, is a bare tree, purple FedEx drop box, blue mailbox, and a white car with an overexposed front.

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 06:00, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ralph T. Coe

Created by Lquilter (talk), Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 02:12, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sister Wives

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 01:17, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cardiff Kook

A range of choices, from the obscure to the plain:

  1. ... that the chicken wire dude who once rode behind the Cardiff Kook was retired to a ranch with poinsettias?
  2. ... that Marion Ross was a booster for the Cardiff Kook?
  3. ... that Rob Machado couldn't tell you what the Cardiff Kook stood for?
  4. ... that the Cardiff Kook once wore Zorro's costume?
  5. ... that the Cardiff Kook was intended to be an awkward boy?

2010 Hamas terror campaign

  • ... that Hamas launched a new campaign of killing Israelis in order to prevent peace talks from succeeding?

created by User:AMuseo, User:Brewcrewer, User:Jalapenos do exist (talk). Nominated by User:AMuseo (talk) (talk) (talk) 27 September 2010 (UTC)

I just want to point out that the article has been gone over by many editors, and undergone many changes to satisfy NPOV concerns.AMuseo (talk) 15:55, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Marilyn McAdams Sibley

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:04, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Bob Mann (American football)

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 00:52, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • sourcing, length and 5x expansion verified for hook and article. The sources regarding being the first African American player for the Lions and Packers are accepted on good faith. The "railroaded" aspect is covered by the Los Angeles Times article referenced in the article, but as additional support I found (and added) another source based on what appears to be the same UP feed that the LA Times used. Great job on expanding what was a bare stub into an expansive and thorough article. Alansohn (talk) 01:21, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

HMS Valiant (1863)

A three-masted steamship painted black with furled sails. Smoke trails from her funnel.

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 22:16, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Geography of New York

A map of New York shows the Adirondack and Catskill parks

5x expanded by UpstateNYer (talk). Nominated by UpstateNYer (talk) at 21:49, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To me, this does not read right. (I'm in the UK, so this may be a US/UK usage difference.) "Geography" is the study of features in the land - it is not a category of those features. The "geography" of an area does not "include" something. The "correct" version of the hook, to me, would be "... that New York includes the Adirondack Park.." - which is trivial and does not include the article title. I'd be happier with something along the lines of "... that the geography of New York is dominated by farms, forests, rivers, mountains, and lakes...." Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:16, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, good point. How about including the Adirondack Mountains which are a major feature and the basis for the park.--NortyNort (Holla) 10:36, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The map also is problematic as it includes the Catskill Park as well (I know there's one from that set that shows just the Adirondack Park.

But I agree with the point. So how about...

Barbara Scherler

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 21:24, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • In the reference for the hook it says she was the Alto for: Les Grandes Cantates de J.S. Bach Vol. 29 Bach Cantatas: Volume 1 it doesn't say she recorded it all in fact it also says: "The list of recordings was compiled by Aryeh Oron (October 2002 - May 2010) Thanks to contributors: Matthias Hansen (June 2009)" It doesn't say that she recorded the whole Alles nur nach Gottes Willen, BMV 72 with Heinrich-Schütz-Chor Heilbronn. —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 10:41am • 00:41, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The reference says: Les Grandes Cantates de J.S. Bach Vol. 29 / Bach Cantatas: Volume 1 / Cantata BWV 72 [19:35]. But I replaced it by the more general one for the Werner cantata recordings, showing that Vol. 29 contained BWV 72 and BWV 23. That ref is less specific, it mentions a tenor who appears only in BWV 23, but an easy click shows that. I also added Scherler's bio ref to the hook, saying at the bottom that she sang with Werner BWV 7, BWV 11, BWV 23, BWV 30, BWV 39, BWV 70, BWV 72, BWV 85, BWV 92, BWV 102, BWV 103, BWV 137, BWV 150, BWV 180, BWV 200. I picked 72, because that is the one I expanded, smile. Of course she didn't sing "the whole" cantata but the alto solo. In 1973 the soloist didn't form the choir, as in La Petite Bande (s. below). Much less information is available about recordings of that time than about more recent ones, therefore I am grateful for bach-cantatas' precision. And - as said and accepted in a former discussion here - a recording is a recording. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:04, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Barry Endean

5x expanded by ChrisTheDude (talk). Self nom at 20:08, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2003 Twenty20 Cup

5x expanded by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 19:48, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yamaha XV1900

5x expanded by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 18:51, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Really not a very interesting hook in my opinion. It's difficult to find anything especially eye-catching in the article, but how about;
ALT1 ... that the Yamaha XV1900 (pictured) is the largest Yamaha V-twin motorcycle in production, and a version of it has a 210mm rear tyre that is the widest on any Yamaha motorcycle?
--Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:09, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Akan Drum

a wooden African drum

  • ... that the British Museum's oldest African-American object is the Akan Drum (pictured) that was used to "dance the slaves"?

Created/expanded by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 18:45, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: it originally read "an Akan Drum". I think it should be either "an Akan drum" or "the Akan Drum", and I changed it to the latter. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:51, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Greyfriars, Bristol

5x expanded by Jezhotwells (talk). Self nom at 18:16, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sue Torres

Created by Tommy2010 (talk). Self nom at 18:07, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: In the article, the hook fact is sourced only to the restaurant's own website. Plus the hook is potentially misleading - the restaurant was not the sole winner of some "Taster's choice", but in fact was merely recommended in that category alongside three other restaurants. In any case, is it not possible to find a more eye-catching hook? A restaurant being one of several restaurants praised in a restaurant review, is not really surprising or especially interesting in my opinion. It happens hundreds of times every single day. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:23, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I was unaware of that. Where did you find that information? Tommy! 20:59, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The source (the restaurant's own website) says 'Suenos was listed as in Vogue's "Taster's Choice" 2004 by Jeffery Steingarten as one of the lasting four monuments of 2003'. So I would guess that means that article listed this restaurant and three others. For all we know, Vogue might have listed twenty other restaurants in five other categories in the same issue. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:47, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
To be honest, I know the hook isn't my best but I didn't really know how to make it sound interesting... unless you got a suggestion :) Tommy! 21:11, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Easiest would be to persuade this celebrity chef to do something outrageously surprising or interesting, and then persuade a RS to write about it :) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:47, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
After reading your comment again, as Jeffrey Steingarten said it was "one of the lasting 4 monuments"... I think that's strong (in a positive way) manner. Jeffrey Steingarten is known for being harsh in his criticism. Tommy! 00:17, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Russian battleship Sevastopol (1895)

Created by User:Buggie111 (talk). Self nom at 17:18, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Marathon at the Paralympics

Created by Aridd (talk). Self nom at 16:31, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jody Williams (chef)

Created by Tommy2010 (talk). Self nom at 15:49, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Samuel Bowman

Created by Coemgenus (talk). Self nom at 15:07, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oxford Castle

A tall stone tower, seen from below, against a blue sky.

5x expanded by Hchc2009 (talk). Nominated by Hchc2009 (talk) at 15:02, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Aurora mine

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 14:40, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, per WP:RS press releases are not reliable. Smartse (talk) 16:38, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Changed the ref. BineMai 16:59, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The cite says it's the largest integrated phosphate mining and chemical plant in the world, but the article and hook state that it is the largest "integrated phosphate and chemical mining plant in the world", which is not quite the same thing. Gatoclass (talk) 17:03, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. BineMai 19:05, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The press release is still used though - it needs to be removed. Smartse (talk) 21:16, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't remove it from the article i just moved it from the first sentence that matches the hook. Is is ok? BineMai 12:15, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Where does WP:RS say press releases are not reliable? Gatoclass (talk) 06:34, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't specifically (it used to and IMO still should) but they are self published so aren't generally considered reliable. Smartse (talk) 12:28, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, of self published sources the guideline states that it's okay to use them so long as they are not unduly self-serving. This hardly seems to me a self-serving statement. Gatoclass (talk) 18:31, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Fair point, I'm more used to dealing with very self serving press releases. The hook is verified. Smartse (talk) 23:59, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eastern Intercollegiate Basketball League

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 14:17, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ankara Güvercinlik Army Air Base

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self nom at 14:02, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and sourcing for the article and hook all appear ok, though I was unable to get a translation of the source that most explicitly supports the hook. Any English language sources that would support the hook would be wonderful additions. The wording of the hook ought to be tweaked, because as currently worded it was the first civil airport for a 22-year period. What it probably should say is something like ALT1 "that the Turkish Army's Güvercinlik Air Base was the first civil airport in Ankara when it opened in 1933 and it served as the city's main airport until 1955?" or something of that order. Alansohn (talk) 18:38, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Game of Peter Rabbit

Created by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 13:31, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

James M. Cantor

Created by Crusio (talk). Nominated by Christopher Connor (talk) at 13:09, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Gatoclass is right, but there is plenty of material for suitable hooks in that article. Such as...
Just a few suggestions... EdChem (talk) 16:35, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'd go with ALT2 which I've verified. Smartse (talk) 17:53, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'd agree with that. One or two of the others are viable but are not expanded upon in the article at all, so the brain study is the obvious candidate. I have struck the other hooks accordingly for clarity. Gatoclass (talk) 18:15, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2 would also be my first choice, thought I like the hookiness of ALT1. However, I do think we should wait for some input from the article creator and/or the nominator. Perhaps they will see something else beyond what I suggested, or have other ideas - a hook the mentions the lower IQ results of pedophiles, for example, or looks at his gay activism. They might even have a different perspective on the "viability" of hooks. EdChem (talk) 18:22, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'll drop the nom a note. Smartse (talk) 21:37, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • (ALT6) ... that James M. Cantor, a gay psychologist who has done research on pedophiles, says it is shown that "there is absolutely no association between being a gay man and being a pedophile"?
  • (ALT7) ... that James M. Cantor is part of an activist minority in mental health seeking to legitimize hebephilia as a psychiatric disorder?
Source is Karen Franklin, "Hebephilia: Quintessence of diagnostic pretextuality," cited in article [4]. Quote: "[Ray] Blanchard and James Cantor serve together on the editorial board of the journal that published the study. Thus, the CAMH group is poised to exert tremendous influence over the revision process for the DSM-5 sexual disorders and, by extension, the shape of forensic diagnosis of sex offenders for some time to come. ...Such legal skirmishes over the validity of hebephilia lend an air of urgency to attempts by an activist minority in the mental health field to legitimize it as a bona fide psychiatric disorder." Few people know what hebephilia is, but the proposed diagnosis will suddenly classify millions of new people as mentally disordered. It's certainly the most interesting DYK fact, and a little shorter than others proposed. Jokestress (talk) 02:30, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yours needs to be attributed to be more correct: has been characterised as part... Mine has a nice ring to it. Christopher Connor (talk) 03:09, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not keen on either of these alts, and I still think ALT2 is a pretty interesting hook - which has the added advantage of being expanded upon in the article where the other alts are not. Gatoclass (talk) 06:39, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Describing Cantor as a "gay" psychologist in ALT6 seems gratuitous to me - his sexuality is irrelevant to any description of the research. Further, I think ALT6's description is less interesting than ALT2's. The lack of association between homosexuality and pedophilia is widely known amongst scientifically educated people; findings that pedophiles have significantly reduced white matter seems to be an important research finding with substantial implications. Remember that what is sought here is the hook most likely to trigger sufficient situational interest to induce readers to click the link and examine the article. I remain of the opinion that ALT2 is the most effective in this regard. EdChem (talk) 09:04, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't create the article so my opinion here doesn't count for much. Perhaps the creator, Crusio, would care to weigh in? Christopher Connor (talk) 19:39, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • (unindent) When I created this stub, I apparently unwittingly stirred up a hornet's nest and the article seems to have become a battleground for people having a beef with Cantor. ALT2 seems to be the only thing in the article that is both reliably sourced and not (too) contentious and it also seems to be the thing that makes Cantor most notable. --Crusio (talk) 07:35, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd urge caution about putting this on the main page, per BLP. Crusio created the article in good faith, but Cantor is a scientist who works in a contentious area, and people with strong views about him have been editing the article and talk page, with the subject asking on talk that they abide by the content policies. Given that the article has the potential to be professionally damaging, and it's not clear that it's balanced enough (no fault of Crusio's), it's unwise to expose it to the main page. SlimVirgin talk|contribs 11:34, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, no hurry. We can give them a few days to sort their differences out, if there are still unresolved issues by the time this makes it to the bottom of the page we can review the situation then. Gatoclass (talk) 11:52, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ruck machine gun post

  • ... that Ruck machine gun posts were built from prefabricated sections, paving slabs, sandbags and rammed earth?

Created by Gaius Cornelius (talk). Self nom at 12:08, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good Times Roll

5x expanded by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 06:52, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mycena acicula, Mycena adonis, Mycena adscendens, Mycena cinerella, Mycena flavoalba, Mycena galopus, Mycena polygramma, Mycena sanguinolenta, Mycena stylobates, Mycena vitilis

slender mushroom with long thin yellowish stem and reddish-orange cap.

  • Comment: All articles except for the newly-created Mycena stylobates are 5x expansions. Hook should be easily verifiable by checking the document "Recommended English Names for Fungi in the UK" (linked in all articles), and confirming that the common names used here are valid. Thanks!

5x expanded by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 05:28, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mycena adscendens comes up only at 4.15x expansion for me. (620 B before, 2575 B after) It need 525 B added. The others are all 5x or more except the newly created article., and I did verify the common names are all correctly stated. Imzadi 1979 → 05:42, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mycena adscendens has been expanded enough. Imzadi 1979 → 06:08, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Heidenmauer

Created by Sadads (talk). Nominated by Self (talk) at 05:16, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SMS Kronprinz (1914)

A large, light gray warship sits motionless in a calm sea

5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 04:46, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Jack Kershaw

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 04:26, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 25

Red Rockers

5x expanded by SteveStrummer (talk). Self nom at 23:53, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: Editing continued through 10/1.

Okmulgee State Park, Gymnophyllum wardi

Sunlight shining through trees on a lake which reflects the plants lining its shore

  • Comment: Okmulgee State Park is from Sept. 25, Gymnophyllum wardi is from Sept. 30

Created by Dincher (talk), Ruhrfisch (talk). Self nom at 07:24, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Windsor Mountain School

Created by Orlady (talk). Self nom at 03:23, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alba Cathedral

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 03:33, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Charmaine Tavares

Created by Scanlan (talk). Self nom at 21:23, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Crusader (album), Dreaming (Scribe song)

5x expanded by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 20:58, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note:The Crusader (album) was 5x expanded on 25 September, and Dreaming (Scribe song) was created on 27 September.

Schwarzenegger v. Entertainment Merchants Association

A tall person with brown hair and a suit stands behind a podium making a speech. In front of the podium is the Seal of the Governor of the State of California.

Created by BluWik (talk). Nominated by MuZemike (talk) at 19:19, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Tom Johnson (American football)

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 00:43, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bernard Carvalho

Created by Scanlan (talk). Nominated by Scanlan (talk) at 23:48, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maria Brontë

Created by Clementina (talk). Self nom at 05:27, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chamelaucium, Eriostemon australasius

5x expanded by Casliber (talk), Poyt448 (talk). Self nom at 02:55, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Rutaceae is commonly known as the citrus family. It seems a bit tangential to actually reference it in the species article though. I just added 'citrus' in brackets. That ok? I guess I can ferret out a source. 11:33, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Medieval invasions of Britain

Created by DCI2026 (talk). Self nom at 02:13, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: This really isn't ready for DYK yet in my opinion. However, I am going to help do some improvement on the article and the hook, perhaps other reviewers with historical interests could help too. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:23, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Bischoff

Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 00:26, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jo Andrews

Created by TheRetroGuy (talk). Nominated by TheRetroGuy (talk) at 23:09, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anastas Byku

Created by Aigest (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 23:04, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Beth Courtney

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 22:29, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT: ... that the National D-Day Museum honored Beth Courtney, president of Louisiana Public Broadcasting, for a three-hour tribute to World War II veterans in Louisiana?

Elias Abel House

A wooden house, seen from the level of the grass

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 21:59, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply] 

 - hook checks out. I don't know if it's red, green or brown! Dincher (talk) 23:37, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Werner Güra

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 20:01, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Batra mine

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 16:06, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I don't see why this hook would be considered especially interesting or eye-catching to readers (presumably the purpose of a chromium mine is to produce lots of chromium), in addition to which the article only has a single source, and that single source is the Albanian government, which actually owned and operated the mine for most of the period in question. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:51, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes the purpose of a chromium mine is to produce chromium but i thought this might be interesting keeping in mind that this is a mine from a small fairly undeveloped country which used its own capital to exploit it without the help of large domestic or foreign companies and if you do the math you will see that it produced roughly 140,000 tonnes of ore per year which was more than 1% of the world's annual production. BineMai 11:10, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
yes i agree with that --Vinie007 16:57, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Arthur Cumming (Royal Navy officer)

An old man sitting on a chair wearing a suit and holding a top hat on his lap

Created by Dumelow (talk). Self nom at 15:47, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Coral Sea, Aipysurus duboisii

sea snake Laticauda colubrina

  • Comment: The hook is in "Fauna" (5th paragraph) in the Coral Sea. this ref. is to confirm that the pictured sea snake (sea krait is subspecies of sea snakes) lives in the Coral Sea, and this is the ref. for 17 species (Great Coral Reef is a part of the Coral Sea).

Created/expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 13:29, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Verified, I've changed the hook though because the refs say it is the most toxic venom, but this doesn't necessarily make it the most poisonous snake, as other snakes could just inject more venom - see Vespa luctuosa which is also here at the moment. Can you fix the couple of queries I've added as hidden notes in the Coral Sea article? Smartse (talk) 17:42, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. Addressed your queries. Yes, its venom, I just wasn't sure how do they count "most poisonous", as the dose should vary between individuals. I re-added "at least" - there are 17 on the Great Barrier Reef, I think I saw some (questionable) refs saying there are a bit more in the sea. Materialscientist (talk) 00:04, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Ottoman–Mamluk War (1516–1517)

Abraham Ortelius - Tvrcici imperii descriptio

Created by Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Nominated by Per Honor et Gloria (talk) at 08:03, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Vinnie Doyle

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Nominated by Candlewicke (talk) at 02:19, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Veal and ham pie

Created by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 01:46, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cruschedula

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 00:57, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 24

Fabio Campana

A dark-haired young woman oman seated at a piano wearing a black dress with a large brooch in the center of the bodice

  • Comment: The image applies to ALT2 only. The article uses shortened footnote format for the citations. See the Sources section for full bibliographic information and links to the sources.

5x expanded by Voceditenore (talk). Self nom at 16:56, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Isenberg, Albert Spencer Wilcox, Albert Spencer Wilcox Building, Abner Wilcox

stone building

Created by W Nowicki (talk). Nominated by W Nowicki (talk) at 20:09, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Alexander Classical School

A three-story building faced in small earth-toned rocks with a rounded cupola on top. There is an American flag on a flagpole at left and a blue-and-gold historical marker in front. Above the door are the words "Town Hall".

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 15:31, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The source cited says "It is the largest cobblestone structure in North America constructed for educational purposes. It is the only known cobble stone building utilized as a town hall in North America, as well as one of the few cobblestone structures originally designed for public purposes." The source mentions that it is three stories tall, but doesn't say what the original hook claims that "one of the few three-story cobblestone buildings". As to ALT1, the source doesn't say make any claim regarding the number of schools built using cobblestone architecture. For ALT2, the source says the building is the only such building on the continent "used for governmental purposes" while the source simply says it's the continent's only cobblestone town hall. The sourcing and length of the article are fine, and there is definitely a strong hook here, but I think some rewording may be necessary to better match the source provided. Alansohn (talk) 15:38, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The source for the three-story claim is the NRHP nom, not the town's history page (which might be a little suspect anyway as a self-serving source). I think that's also the source for ALT1, too. I have reworded ALT2. I also had an ALT3 which, apparently, didn't come out since the template doesn't support that, but I may add it later. Daniel Case (talk) 21:02, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Coffee production in Papua New Guinea

Coffee seeds packed in bags

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 09:50, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jagiellonian tapestries

Tapestry with monogram of king Sigismund Augustus

Created by BurgererSF (talk) 10:11, 25 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 10:11, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, improved. BurgererSF (talk) 16:36, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

George E. Hearn

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:57, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT: ... that George E. Hearn was the first licensed industrial psychologist in his native Louisiana?


The Fabian Strategy (30 Rock)

Created by ThinkBlue (talk). Self nom at 23:49, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John Callan (judge)

man in his early 50s wearing a lawyers' wig and gown, standing in front of a book shelf

Created by Rick570 (talk), Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 23:43, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

man in his early 50s wearing a lawyers' wig and gown, standing in front of a book shelf

Barford Court, Hove

A greyish-purple brick building with a reddish tiled roof and brown-framed sash windows, partly hidden behind a wall of the same bricks

  • ... that eccentric tycoon Ian Stuart Millar's seafront home (pictured) in Hove, England, was built of specially commissioned handmade bricks—the leftovers of which were reputedly buried elsewhere in Hove?
  • Comment: 200 chars with (pictured) ... but better hook wording is welcomed.

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 22:32, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


St Mary's Church, Elsing

Stone church with sqare tower and battlements seen against blue sky with white clouds

Created by Charlesdrakew (talk). Self nom at 21:10, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have moved the relevant ref. immediately behind the quote.--Charles (talk) 16:50, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK now. Offline hook reference accepted in good faith. Nice article! Voceditenore (talk) 16:53, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


The Cosmic Landscape

  • ... that The Cosmic Landscape by Leonard Susskind is mainly about "the scientific explanations of the apparent miracles of physics and cosmology and its philosophical implications?"

Created by Derild4921 (talk). Self nom at 19:50, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I added in the book as a source. Currently I only have reviews and that one source gives me all reviews for now; it has the same effect as finding each separate review and citing them. Derild4921☼ 02:32, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speakers' Corner, Singapore

A brown wooden sign with the words "Speakers' Corner" in white next to a grassy field. A brown wooden sign with the words "Speakers' Corner" in white

5x expanded by Lee Huimin (talk), Libing.tan.2008 (talk), Redefreiheit (talk), Viknesh2010 (talk), and Smuconlaw (talk). Nominated by Smuconlaw (talk) at 16:00, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The expanded article was worked on in a sandbox and moved into the article namespace on 24 September 2010. — SMUconlaw (talk) 16:12, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Javad Alizadeh

A cartoon of Javad

  • ... that Iranian cartoonist Javad has created a scientific/philosophical cartoon on relativity theory titled 4D Humor (pictured)?

Created by Farhikht (talk). Nominated by Farhikht (talk) at 13:26, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reply on your talk page.Farhikht (talk) 14:54, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My answer is on yours. Ericoides 14:58, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Can someone else check this? I've become a bit too involved with it. Thanks, Ericoides 15:41, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Mirna Bridge

A view of the bridge curving across the Mirna River valley as seen from the road approaching the southern end of the bridge

Created by Tomobe03 (talk). Self nom at 12:42, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can you point out where in ref2 the "longest bridge" claim is made so we can at least check it in google translate? It would be ideal if you could add a quote to the ref and translate it as well. Smartse (talk) 17:58, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
On the second thought I cannot. The text says it is the most significant and only implies that it is the longest. Perhaps Alt 1 would be better, or should this be dropped altogether?--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:04, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT1:... that piers of the 1,378-metre (4,521 ft) Mirna Bridge on the Croatian A9 motorway were designed to support a concave deck in order to reduce weight of the bridge (pictured)?
Note: In ALT1 case the claim is referenced by ref#3: "Udubljena je krivina odabrana s namjerom da se smanje visine stupova (slika 43.), jer je tlo u dolini iznimno male nosivosti. Iz istih je razloga rasponski sklop odabran tako da bude što lakši" [A concave curve was selected with intention to reduce height of the piers (fig 43), since soil in the valley has exceptionally low load bearing capacity. For the same reason, superstructure type was selected to be as lightweight as possible]--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:04, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on September 23

List of Cardcaptor Sakura episodes

5x expanded by Juhachi (talk). Self nom at 08:35, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I think the wording of the hook sounds contrived. Normally you wouldn't say that "the episodes" premiered, but that the show premiered. I think it would be better with the word "episodes" removed, and then linking to the list from the later use of "episode". Here is what I would suggest: ... that when the anime Cardcaptor Sakura premiered on Kids' WB in North America, the first broadcast episode was the eighth? Calathan (talk) 17:22, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
only 2x expand in readable prose. — Rlevse • Talk • 23:31, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

eight articles

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 20:01, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The 1.6% figure seems to be based on the figure for chromium reserves in The Limits to Growth which was published almost 40 years ago, which cannot be accurate anymore, because they will have either shrunk as we've used it up, or grown as we've found more. The US Geological Service may have some relevant information on this in one of the reports found here. Even then though, I'm not entirely sure whether it is original research to do the calculations to make the percentage figure for the hook. Can anyone advise? Smartse (talk) 23:24, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Added two more mines and changed the hook. BineMai 15:14, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
all of these articles have only one ref, and it's the same ref. Are there any additional refs? — Rlevse • Talk • 23:41, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Special occasion holding area

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

Devils Brigade (album)

Created by IllaZilla (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 04:05, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

appr and move to halloween set. — Rlevse • Talk • 23:23, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For 31 October, Hallowe'en

  • The 2010 Halloween collection has started early. My interpretation of whats happening is ... 1. Move your hook to the bottom of the page (ie here) 2. You may get some more macabre, funny etc suggestions for a hook and it should get DYKtick'ed. 3. Then after its been there about 24 hours or so it gets moved off to the dedicated page. 4. Then about three or four days before Oct 31 we sort out the 40 or so hooks into "8"s (so they are ready to load on the 36 hours or so that is Halloween internationally). 5. We do the awards and 6 .... and please help with all of this. It only works if we all do a bit Victuallers (talk) 08:22, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Paracas Textiles

Brightly coloured Embroidery of shaman holding a head and a knife

  • Comment: for Halloween?

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 20:50, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Beginning of the End

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 16:21, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Must admit, I don't think this is really a Halloween one, especially given that we're not short of Halloween ones. Halloween fans may like to look at two regular DYKs above that I've flagged as possibles, although they're still in the main queue at present. Le Deluge (talk) 00:51, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ben Cooper, Inc.

- Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 01:07, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that Ben Cooper, Inc., the "Halston of Halloween", said it sold a scary 4 million Halloween costumes in the United States in 1990?

- Hook corrected to show where costumes were sold. - Tim1965 (talk) 19:12, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Only in places where there's a JC Penney. Trust me, that subclause just doesn't work outside the US, and to be honest it's redundant, it could just be struck out entirely. Or as Victuallers says, the "high priest" version is a ready-made alternative that needs no knowledge of US culture, and thus is a better hook. WTGR Tim, you really need to think a bit more globally - 50% of en.wiki users are outside the US, and that proportion is growing. Le Deluge (talk) 08:54, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • It doesn't appear, Le Deluge, that you know who Halston was. He was internationally famous (he designed Jacqueline Kennedy's iconic pillbox hat outfit, which had worldwide recognition), and was well-known throughout Europe and portions of Asia. His recognizability is perhaps more time-bound (who knows who he is today?), but the quote was from 1979 (when he was still a worldwide icon of high couture and not a budget-conscious caricature as he was at the end). Accusing someone of ethnocentrism is, I don't think, an appropriate response to the proposed hook (especially if you don't know that person, or their contributions). If you are concerned that hooks are not worldwide in nature, I can only respond that 1) That is not a DYK criteria and 2) 17 of the accepted 22 hooks for this year do not involve worldwide topics. A far more appropriate criticism of the hook would be that it does not say where Ben Cooper, Inc. sold 4 million costumes (a very legitimate issue which I will correct). - Tim1965 (talk) 19:10, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For January 1, 2011, Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation

Expanded and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This nomination is a bit of a special case. I originally nominated Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on August 3 following a 5x expansion (see discussion above under #Articles created/expanded on August 3). Everyone accepted that it met the DYK criteria but the nomination was derailed by a political dispute over timing. I've put forward a compromise at User talk:Jimbo Wales#Compromise proposal, which involves passing this DYK now but scheduling its appearance on January 1, 2011, which is 60 years to the day since the seal was first used. This proposal has been generally welcomed so I'm putting it forward here for formal consideration. I'm aware that the timeframe is somewhat longer than would be usual for scheduled DYKs, but in the circumstances I think a some flexibility would be justified. I've put forward two possible hooks: the original one as proposed earlier, and a new alternative tying the DYK in more directly with the date. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification: Are we nominating this (with whichever hook) sans image as you initially suggested on Jimbo's talk page?
    --K10wnsta (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Appended: I see that you removed the image from inclusion in the original nomination, so I'll assume this post-dated nomination would not include the image either. However, this necessitates further clarification:
Are we excluding the image from this DYK solely because of the recent interaction with the FBI?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In effect yes, but in my view it's a necessary evil if we're to reach a satisfactory compromise on this issue. -- ChrisO (talk) 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • - Tentative Even if the motivation behind qualifying this article for DYK was questionable, I think you already achieved not just a satisfactory compromise, but a completely valid and justifiable use for it. In fact, it's use is so valid, refusing to use the image for no other reason than the recent hoobajoo with the FBI is blatantly (chilled) censorship...and I just can't get behind that. If we're going to censor it, we need to go whole hog or don't go at all.
    Could we put it up for 'On This Day' to avoid reasoning for exclusion of the image?
    --K10wnsta (talk) 01:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • No opinion on whether to feature on the future date; however, it would be better if this hook didn't remain on the suggestions page for the intervening months, as it is bound to attract further discussion and the page is unwieldy enough as it is. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Espresso's suggestion may be useful for more than just making this page leaner. A delay in nomination would lend to better perspective for those establishing consensus. In other words, removing it from discussion for a couple months would also put some time between recent events and the article (and hopefully image) being contemplated for a main page feature (unless such a delay would disqualify it from use in DYK section).
--K10wnsta (talk) 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This hook should not "disappear" for a few months. It is far better to leave it here to enable a wide input from editors on the issue. I think this is a good compromise that involves common sense, the proposal and special treatment of the timescale fitting nicely under WP:IAR. Mjroots (talk) 13:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I do not support 1 January 2011. The DYK section is for new articles. There are exceptions like April Fools and Halloween; I do not see the point of making every day of the year a possible exception. Geschichte (talk) 20:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Anniversary or not, a four-month wait at DYK is an overkill. The point of DYK is to present new or newly expanded articles, not to present "on this day". By then this article will be more than four months old. If this line of though is going to be followed, DYK is going to end up in a mess. The length of this entry is plain evidence for why keeping things around for almost five months is not a good idea. Arsenikk (talk) 13:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • per IAR. I would count this as a valid use of IAR. This could have gone up for today. The only reason it isn't going up is for political reasons. I disagree with Jimbo and others on that matter and think we should run it now, but there is no need to reject it entirely on that basis. NW (Talk) 03:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support' as this would have been promoted in the usual time window if not for the decision to shelve it until the political heat was off. To kill it now because a delay was agreed to would be an egregious abuse of trust. - Dravecky (talk) 09:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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