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====Mutinus elegans====
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{{*mp}}... that [[John Banister (naturalist)|John Banister's]] 1679 description of the '''[[Mutinus elegans|devil's dipstick]]''' ''(example pictured)'' is thought to be the first account of a [[fungus]] in North America?
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:*'''ALT2''':... that the '''[[Mutinus elegans|devil's dipstick]]''' ''(pictured)'' is covered with a gelatinous, foul-smelling, slimy green [[gleba|spore mass]]?
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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on October 3

Mutinus elegans

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 05:04, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 2

Adel Mountains Volcanic Field

View from the northwest of Square Butte, a laccolith in the Adel Mountains Volcanic Field in west-central Montana.

Created/expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 23:07, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Joseph Nash

  • ... that old houses in England saw an increased number of visitors in the 1840s due to published lithographs depicting architecture and historical scenes in them drawn by Joseph Nash?

Created by Majorly (talk). Self nom at 21:55, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Karl Wilhelm Scheibler

Created by User:HerkusMonte. Self nom at 18:23, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pseudoplectania nigrella

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 18:13, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Cape Ortegal

5x expanded by Benea (talk). Self nom at 14:58, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Distomo Archaeological Collection

5x expanded by Himalayan Explorer (talk). Self nom at 14:46, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Xylocopa aeratus

Created by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 14:22, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delos Archaeological Museum

5x expanded by Himalayan Explorer (talk). Self nom at 13:48, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Johnny LoBianco

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 11:45, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Monroe Avenue Commercial Buildings

5x expanded by Andrew Jameson (talk). Self nom at 11:43, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Hook refs located in the middle of the History and significance section; the six theatres are the Casino (1906), Bijou (1906), Star/Royal (1907), Columbia (1911), National (1911), and the Family (1914). Also note the 1913 image includes 4-1/2 of the six theatres (part of the National is at far left, the Star/Royal is just to the right of the National, the smaller Casino and Bijou are just visible in the center, the Columbia is prominently at left center, and the (unopened in 1913) Family would be past the right side of the image. Andrew Jameson (talk) 11:57, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jump for the Cause

Created by B.s.n.R.N. (talk). Self nom at 08:30, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hakgala Strict Nature Reserve

Created by Chanakal (talk). Self nom at 08:07, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I thought it is bit confusing too. How about ALT... that Hakgala Strict Nature Reserve is an important and isolated cloud forest, however its small size and isolation is jeopardizing its long term survival? Best!--Chanaka L (talk) 03:16, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Suillus spraguei

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 06:51, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bubber Jonnard

Created by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 03:17, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Garry Gross

Created by Francium12 (talk). Self nom at 02:07, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 1

Yehuda Hiss

Created by Epycwin (talk), Tiamut (talk), Nominated by Tiamut. Self nom at 22:40, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bilbao (Mesoamerican site)

Created by Simon Burchell (talk). Self nom at 11:11, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Roy Frankhouser

Created by Will Beback (talk). Self nom at 04:28, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1979 Abbotsford landslip

Created by Grutness (talk). Self nom at 00:35, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Van Morrison: No Surrender

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 00:02, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Voina

  • ... that Voina is a Russian art collective whose provocative works have included public group sex and staged hangings?

Created by Gamaliel (talk). Self nom at 21:38, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Added inline citations to the article. Gamaliel (talk) 19:46, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Llévame Donde Nací

Created by Gibmetal77 (talk). Self nom at 20:12, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

HMS Graph (P715)

  • ... that the British submarine HMS Graph was a captured German U-boat, and was the only German submarine to see combat service with both sides during World War II?

5x expanded by Catsmeat (talk). Self nom at 20:03, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • DYKCheck indicates that this does not satisfy the criteria for 5x expansion, in particular F2 - looks like around 3.2x based on comparison of versions. Is there anything more that can be added? Nick Ottery (talk) 07:47, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

David Davies (Dai'r Cantwr)

Expanded by FruitMonkey (talk). Self nom at FruitMonkey (talk) 19:13, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Elijah Wald

Created by Jmabel (talk). Self nom at 18:29, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

2009 Lößnitzgrundbahn head-on collision

Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 18:11, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Howell Peacock

Created by Remember (talk) and Jrcla2(talk) . Self nom at 17:08, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alternative hook: ... that Howell Peacock, while a medical student, coached the North Carolina Tar Heels men's basketball team as well as future Governor of North Carolina Luther H. Hodges? Remember (talk) 17:14, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Endomosaic

Created by Nick Ottery (talk). Self nom at 09:57, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Muiredach's High Cross

East-face of Muiredach's High Cross

5x expanded by Breandán MacAmhlaidh (talk). Self nom at 07:32, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • The article has been updated to reflect the fact that the source says these could probably be regarded as Ireland's greatest contribution... Should the hook be updated to reflect this too, or reworded to say something like have been described as...? Otherwise this looks good for DYK. Nick Ottery (talk) 08:00, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of Polish cities damaged in World War II

Created by Brandmeister (talk). Self nom at 07:23, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Opsikion, Armeniac Theme, Anatolic Theme, Thracesian Theme

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 03:07, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. Steel Yard

5x expanded by MuZemike (talk). Self nom at 01:56, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 30

Church of St. Anne, Kraków

Created by Gryffindor (talk). Self nom at 22:58, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Is it better now? Gryffindor (talk) 23:28, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tsuyako Kitashima

Created by Skomorokh (talk). Self nom at 06:47, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Archuleta v. Hedrick

Created by Mattisse (talk). Self nom at 20:56, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Alexander of Lincoln

5x expanded by Ealdgyth (talk). Self nom at 19:49, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Holding Institute

Holding Institute

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:52, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ponce City Hall

5x expanded by Plain87dice (talk). Nominated by Doncram (talk) at 02:44, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is a 5x expansion although DYKcheck does not show that, due to a previous copyvio expansion. doncram (talk) 02:43, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bryce Canyon City, Utah, Hideout, Utah, Independence, Utah

incorporated under a controversial, short-lived state law?

  • Comment: Expanded Bryce Canyon City, created the other two

Created/expanded by Ntsimp (talk). Self nom at 23:43, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Harold Israel

Created by Stetsonharry (talk). Self nom at 21:58, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, plumb forgot. Here[1] (Life magazine). Am adding to article.--Stetsonharry (talk) 00:54, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

William S. Dix

    • Alternate:

Created by Tragiccnet (talk). Nominated by Dr.K. (talk) at 21:36, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much Matisse. The ISBNs etc. were added. Take care. Tasos (Dr.K. logos 02:24, 2 October 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Australian Inland Botanic Gardens

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 21:30, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Georgia Marble Company

Created by SparksBoy (talk). Self nom at 21:19, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • OK, several issues. First, it sounds like marble which that company mined was used in the construction of those buildings, but not that the company actually built them. Second, those sentences are not explicitly referenced in the text. Third, your first reference talks about the Georgia Marble Company, not the Georgia Mining Company. These do not appear to be the same entities. In fact, given that your article seems to be about the former, not the latter, I've moved it to Georgia Marble Company. -Kieran (talk) 00:57, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ok I have fixed all of it up.. If there are any other problems let me know. SparksBoy (talk) 01:17, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm - the reference you use only talks about the stock exchange annex. Also, there's a better list of uses here, which mentions that only the statue of Lincoln at the memorial was Georgia Marble. I would try the following (but reference the dozens of others to the link I've provided):
Alt1: ... that the Georgia Marble Company supplied the marble used to build the New York Stock Exchange annex and the statue of Lincoln at the Lincoln Memorial, among dozens of other major architectural and memorial projects? -Kieran (talk) 09:16, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ok I like that one, I will work on the article a bit more today. SparksBoy (talk) 18:14, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tony Hawksworth (footballer)

5x expanded by PeeJay2K3 (talk). Self nom at 20:49, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Reticulated foam

Created by Silverchemist (talk). Self nom at 19:58, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Nice article. I would slap some categories on, though. Also, although the source for the fuel tanks has a photo of an A-10, it does not explicitly state that the A-10 uses the foam. The sentence on the A-10 page referring to it is unreferenced, too. You need a reference explicitly stating that it is used. For the hook, how about mentioning military aircraft in general, ie. "fuel tanks of military aircraft such as the A-10 Thunderbolt II? -Kieran (talk) 01:16, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Added a reference from US govt source for the use of foam in the A-10. Added categories. Hook changed as suggested.Silverchemist (talk) 04:30, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • New:

Created by Silverchemist (talk). Self nom at 19:58, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fría Como el Viento

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 19:32, 30 September 2009 (UTC). Self nom at 19:31, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Treaty of Pyritz

Created by Skäpperöd (talk). Self nom at 18:11, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Karen L. Gould

Created by Dwalls (talk). Self nom at 17:09, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sholes and Glidden typewriter

Created by Elcobbola (talk). Self nom at 16:59, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Maxine Audley

5x expanded by Cryptic C62 (talk). Self nom at 16:22, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Esther Reed

Created by Decp85 (talk), Hack (talk). Self nom at 14:46, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Abba Garima Monastery

Created by Himalayan Explorer (talk). Self nom at 14:38, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Abir Congo Company

Created by Dumelow (talk). Self nom at 13:41, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Gurwin

  • ... that philanthropist Joseph Gurwin lost over $30 million to Bernard Madoff, but promised he would continue making charitable donations even if he had "to sell apples on the street"?
  • ALT1:... that philanthropist Joseph Gurwin had space satellites Gurwin-1b and Gurwin-2-TechSAT named in his honor after he contributed money to Technion to cover their launch costs?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 12:27, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

John Lloyd Waddy, John Waddy (British Army officer)

Created by Ian Rose (talk), Ranger Steve (talk), Skinny87 (talk). Nominated by David Underdown (talk) at 09:10, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Australian Little Bittern

Created by Maias (talk). Self nom at 06:15, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Acland, Queensland

  • ... that the Australian town of Acland, once host to Queensland's oldest and smallest continuously worked coal mine, now has a population of one?

Created by Hamiltonstone (talk). Self nom at 05:56, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I don't think town was meant as a formal legal status but as an everyday English description of the place. Second, the "state suburb" language of the census is a rather strange and cumbersome terminology used nowhere else that i think is a product of their technical processes. I'll come back about the Q re his wife. I think I missed the fact that he had one. hamiltonstone (talk) 23:23, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Who's Your City?

  • Comment: hook cited in the lead paragraph. The cite is to a book but the relevant map from the book can be viewed here

5x expanded by Maclean25 (talk). Self nom at 04:52, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Muño Peláez

  • ... that the illegal Galician castle constructed by Muño Peláez in 1121 was considered a "den of robbers and bandits" by contemporaries, and was soon razed?

Created by Srnec (talk). Self nom at 03:06, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Women Superstars Uncensored

5x expanded by GaryColemanFan (talk). Self nom at 03:03, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kodaikanal–Munnar Road

Created by Marcus334 (talk). Self nom at 00:37, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hook over 200 characters in length.--LAAFansign review 01:22, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of St. Louis Cardinals managers

Created by Gary King (talk). Expanded and nominated by LAAFan (talk) on 30 September 2009

Articles created/expanded on September 29

Marie Wadley

Created by Scanlan (talk). Self nom at 02:02, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Haggate

The Hare and Hounds pub, the first building in Haggate

Created by BigDom (talk). Self nom at 16:37, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

East Side Historic District (Saratoga Springs, New York)

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 15:03, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Giuseppe Giulietti (trade unionist)

Created by Keresaspa (talk). Nominated by Carabinieri (talk) at 12:12, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kamil Lhoták

Created by Vejvančický (talk). Self nom at 10:54, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

International music competitions in the Czech Republic

Created by Vejvančický (talk). Self nom at 10:24, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Calumet and Hecla Industrial District

Created by Andrew Jameson (talk). Self nom at 09:37, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Shorty Hamilton

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 23:55, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Terrible tragedy, of course, but I have to say that the alternative hook is much more interesting to the reader.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:06, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Megalomys audreyae

Created by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 21:18, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stanisław Aronson

Created by User:Radeksz. Nominated by User:Pernambuko at 23:09, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I don't want to bite, but the format of the hook seems to be a little more suited to Jeopardy!--Wehwalt (talk) 21:52, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Just in case it isn't clear yet, a better way to express this might be:

ALT1: ... that Stanisław Aronson was an officer of the Polish Home Army with the rank of lieutenant during the German occupation of Poland and an insurgent in the Warsaw Uprising of 1944?

Did You Know hooks almost always begin with "... that ..." instead of "... what ...". --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:51, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Victor Norris Hamilton

  • ... that in 1992, 29 years after his defection to the USSR, American Victor Norris Hamilton was discovered in a Russian mental hospital?

Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 20:33, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Libya–Switzerland relations

Created by TM (talk). Self nom at 20:17, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Edward Gelsthorpe and Cran-Apple juice

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 20:06, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Tuvan People's Revolutionary Party

5x expanded by Mrdie (talk). Nominated by Soman (talk) at 19:35, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Committee for the Propagation of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice (Gaza Strip)

Created by Jalapenos do exist (talk). Nominated by B.s.n.R.N. (talk) at 18:13, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Battle of Elephant Point

  • ... that to avoid being hit by Allied bombers during the Battle of Elephant Point, British officers and other ranks carried orange umbrellas?

Created by User:Skinny87 (talk). Self nom at 16:06, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Eh, fair enough, I wasn't sure of the terminology so I altered it for the hook. I'll change it back now to just British. Skinny87 (talk) 16:16, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, or British and Indian, or as below. Only British Indian Army ground troops were involved, as far as I can see. Johnbod (talk) 19:49, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1:... that to avoid being hit by Allied bombers during the Battle of Elephant Point in 1945, troops of the British Indian Army carried orange umbrellas? Johnbod (talk) 19:54, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that sounds just as good, and makes more sense. Cheers! Skinny87 (talk) 06:58, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Socratea exorrhiza

  • ... that the stilt roots of Socratea exorrhiza allow it to re-root in a different location from where it germinated if a tree falls on it?

5x expanded by Smartse (talk). Self nom at 15:26, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, this might not make sense, so please feel free to suggest an alternative... Smartse (talk) 15:26, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
ALT 1 How does that sound? Skinny87 (talk) 16:37, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah that's better thanks, I've added that it is only the seedlings though as from what I gathered in the source it is only the case with them. Smartse (talk) 19:18, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2: ... that if a tree falls on seedlings of the Walking Plm its stilt roots allow it to re-root in a different location? Smartse (talk) 13:02, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The common name is a bit more exciting! Smartse (talk) 13:02, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Safar (film)

Created by Shshshsh (talk). Self nom at 15:09, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • "First and only award" is not supported by given ref. Also, the article says he received the "best director" award, but what he has actually won is the "best screenplay" award according to the ref. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 08:27, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No - you are talking about BFJA - it's not Filmfare. I'm talking about the Filmfare Best Director Award, the first and only he has got. It is supported by the list of Filmfare nominees and winners. Shahid • Talk2me 08:37, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Then please move the ref to the appropriate place (ref should be directly after the hook fact - see WP:DYKDN). The fact appears after the reference. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 08:46, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Fine, done. Thank you. Shahid • Talk2me 10:28, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Theophanes (chamberlain)

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 12:58, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bonar Law

Shouldn't "with less than" be "with fewer than"? Ericoides (talk) 10:09, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, so I changed it. Art LaPella (talk) 00:44, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Icehotel (Jukkasjärvi)

Created by Epson291 (talk). Self nom at 08:56, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

De Hoop, Norg

Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 08:54, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

James W. Davidson

  • ALT1:... that James W. Davidson's 1903 book Formosa Past and Present has been called "the major English language survey of Taiwan for its days"?

Created by Taiwantaffy (talk). Self nom at 08:47, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yana, India

  • ... that Yana, India, in Karnataka is famous for trekking to two unique rock outcrops of black crystalline limestone (pictured) with a cave temple in one rock where a self manifest Shiva Linga is venerated?
  • Comment: Stub article expanded by more than five times

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 08:37, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1... that Yana in Karnataka, India, offers treks to two unique rock outcrops of black crystalline limestone (pictured), one with a cave temple where a "self-manifest" Shiva Linga is venerated? - clearer. The "self-mainfest" bit could maybe be explained. Johnbod (talk) 01:54, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Self-manifest used in this hook is translation of the Sankrit word Swayambu. The article on this subject states: "Swayambhu (also spelt Svayambhu) means Self-manifested or that which is created by its own accord". --Nvvchar (talk) 15:00, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've linked that, though the article could do with improving. Johnbod (talk) 15:06, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lahugala Kitulana National Park

Created by Chanakal (talk). Self nom at 06:49, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

C. Gardner Sullivan

  • ... that prolific screenwriter C. Gardner Sullivan (pictured) was selected as one of the ten individuals who contributed the most to the motion picture industry?

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:26, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Moonie (Unification Church)

5x expanded by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 05:15, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Watson (surveyor)

  • ... that the first town plans for Bunbury (pictured) in Western Australia, by surveyor Thomas Watson were discarded?

Created by Hesperian (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 05:13, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 28

Hirsh Lekert

  • ... that Hirsh Lekert, a Bundist, tried unsuccessfully to assassinate the governor of Vilna, and became a folk hero in the Jewish workers’ movement, with poems and dramas written about him in Yiddish?

Created by Radeksz (talk). Self nom at 08:47, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Mineral industry of Colombia

Gachala Emerald

Created by Koven.rm (talk). Self nom at 13:18, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Quorn Hunt

Osbaldeston by Sir Francis Grant

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 03:01, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sahara (1919 film)

  • ... that Sahara, a 1919 film of a woman (actress pictured) who deserts her husband and child in the desert, was called "one of the really great dramas" of recent years?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 01:22, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Antonio Frasconi

  • ... that Antonio Frasconi spent ten years creating an artwork that shows the people who disappeared during the dictatorships in Uruguay?

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 13:36, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Japanese settlement in the Federated States of Micronesia

Created by Mr Tan (talk). Self nom at 11:56, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Treaty of Saint-Germain-en-Laye (1679)

Created by Skäpperöd (talk). Self nom at 08:28, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lucy Vodden

Created by Scanlan (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 06:00, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Starfall (website)

  • ... that Starfall, a free website that teaches children how to read, had 987,000 visitors in May 2009, which was a 300 percent increase from the previous year?

Created by Erich gasboy (talk), Cunard (talk). Self nom at 05:37, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • ALT1 ... that in May 2007 alone 987,000 unique visitors tried Starfall, a free website that helps children learn to read?
  • ALT2 ... that US House of Representatives member from Colorado Jared Polis founded a children's reading education free website, Starfall?

Eugenio Pacelli's 1936 visit to the United States

Charles Coughlin

Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 04:04, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Shoppes at College Hills

  • Comment: I'd like to see both of this and the Eastland Mall hook make the main page at the same time.

Created by TenPoundHammer (talk). Self nom at 02:55, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Eastland Mall (Bloomington, Illinois)

Created by TenPoundHammer (talk). Self nom at 02:20, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Just wondering -- is this considered unusual? At most intersections, there are only four corners to locate businesses on. So if the mall was on one corner, and there were two businesses on two of the other two corners, that would just leave one corner unbuilt. And the article indicates that there was already a K mart under development on the fourth corner. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 06:20, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is sometimes; most malls are built in the mid of an already growing business district, but every now and then, they do build out in the middle of nowhere. I think this hook is a good way to show how Bloomington-Normal has grown over time. I did add Kmart to the hook. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 15:42, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not sure this is much of an improvement. Suppose there was a suggested hook that said "... that John Doe was raised by only one of his parents, his mother?". Then I would comment, "Is this considered unusual? He couldn't have more than two parents anyway, and anyway the article says that his father lived with him and his mother for some of his childhood." I wouldn't fix the hook by changing it to "... that John Doe was raised by only two of his parents?". There are only four corners at the intersection where this mall is, like most intersections in the United States. If the mall is on one corner, there would normally be only be three other businesses on the three other corners. So I don't see how this works as a hook. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:46, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested two alts: Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 16:08, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Breaker boy, Coal breaker

Breaker boys at the Eagle Hill colliery near Pottsville, Pennsylvania, in 1884.

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 01:51, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Truth-in-advertising: The "coal breaker" article came second. It incorporates most (but not all) of the "breaker boy" piece. However, even removing that, the coal breaker article is way more than five-fold expansion. The breaker boy article is also way more than five-fold expansion. - Tim1965 (talk) 02:44, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Carbon Market

Created by Bearian (talk). Self nom at 22:09, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Well, one of the big jokes (at my expense) at the last WikiMeetup in NYC was that I'm a terribly stiff writer! LOL. And yes, it would make a great April fools' day article, but we have to start somewhere. Bearian (talk) 15:13, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT 1:
... that the largest and oldest farmer's market in Cebu City, the Carbon Market (pictured), is wheelchair accessible? --ᜊᜓᜅ ᜅ᜔ ᜑᜎᜋᜅ᜔ ᜋᜑᜒᜏᜄ (ᜂᜐᜉ)Baybayin 16:34, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT 2:
... that the largest and oldest farmer's market in Cebu City, the Carbon Market (pictured), was once used as a dump in the 19th century? --ᜊᜓᜅ ᜅ᜔ ᜑᜎᜋᜅ᜔ ᜋᜑᜒᜏᜄ (ᜂᜐᜉ)Baybayin 16:34, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Habsburg class battleship

Habsburg class battleship

Created/expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 21:57, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Polish–Muscovite War (1577–1582)

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 21:04, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dhaka Residential Model College

5x expanded by Tanweer drmc (talk). Self nom at 16:53, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Tropical Storm Christine (1973)

Created by Cyclonebiskit (talk). Self nom at 16:33, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Church of the Virgin of the Pharos

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 16:14, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

James Howden

Created by Ericoides (talk). Self nom at 15:51, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Sorry, but I don't think this hook is acceptable. "Steam powered transatlantic journeys" were a "practical possibility" since at least 1838, when the first regular transatlantic steamship service went into operation, and Mr Howden did not invent his gadget until the 1880s. Gatoclass (talk) 11:02, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it's what the ref said but I too wondered about it. I'll take your word for it and remove the claim from the article. Alt hook is: ... that James Howden (pictured) invented the marine forced draught system, which was used on the Lusitania, Mauritania, Queen Mary, Normandie and Queen Elizabeth? Ericoides (talk) 11:22, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I was just looking at the article and I have my doubts about that claim too. Obviously he patented a particular type of forced draught system, but it seems pretty unlikely he was the first to apply a forced draught to marine boilers, since forced draught technology had been around for a long time before the 1880s. I might have a browse through some of my references and see what I can find. Gatoclass (talk) 11:24, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Great, thanks for that Gatoclass, much appreciated. I posted an appeal for help on this very question on two project pages yesterday[2][3], as the topic lies well north of my area of expertise. Regards, Ericoides (talk) 11:31, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
A possible further alt: ... that James Howden (pictured) invented the Howden System of Forced Draught, which was used on the Lusitania, Mauritania, Queen Mary, Normandie and Queen Elizabeth? Ericoides (talk) 11:35, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've confirmed that forced drafts for marine boilers were in use since at least the 1850s, so it can't be said that he invented it. As for your alt hook, I think it's a bit misleading to link "Howden system of forced draught" to a generic link about boilers. But I think your original alt would probably be fine without the comma after "forced draught system". Gatoclass (talk) 11:49, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
OK, here it is (I've changed "which" to "that", removed the comma and amended the article in the light of your remarks).
... that James Howden (pictured) invented the marine forced draught system that was used on the Lusitania, Mauretania, Queen Mary, Normandie and Queen Elizabeth? Ericoides (talk) 11:58, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry to put you to more trouble, but on closer inspection I'm not sure the reference referring to the ships is up to scratch - it's basically a blog. Any chance you could verify that info from other sources? If not, you may have to come up with a different hook. Gatoclass (talk) 12:10, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't apologise, this process is very worthwhile. I've found cast-iron refs for three ships (but I've not the time at the mo to verify the Queen Mary, Normandie and Queen Elizabeth).
New (final?) alt: ... that James Howden (pictured) invented the marine forced draught system that was used on the Lusitania and Mauretania? Ericoides (talk) 12:39, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Trimmed the last hook to refer only to first two ships as I'm not sure the third is referring to the same technology (and I doubt many people have heard of the Paris anyhow). Nice hook, and thankyou for your gracious response to my comments! Gatoclass (talk) 08:29, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent. I think I'll take this whole exercise as a cautionary tale about what happens when I foolishly venture out of my depth ... Regards, Ericoides (talk) 14:44, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hurricane Brenda (1973)

Created by Cyclonebiskit (talk). Self nom at 14:52, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ordnance Survey International

Created by Arb (talk). Self nom at 13:28, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

2009 Francophone Games

5x expanded by Eli+ 12:25, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Buildings of Nuffield College, Oxford, Austen Harrison

Created by Bencherlite (talk). Self nom at 09:06, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


La Parka (AAA)

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self nom at 08:14, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Frederick J. Horne

Admiral Frederick J. Horne

Created by Morinao (talk). Self nom at 07:00, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lind, Washington

  • ... that when the Neilson Brothers platted the townsite of Lind, Washington, they named all of the north to south streets to eventually spell out their surname? The town only grew large enough to spell "Neilso".

5x expanded by Publichall (talk). Self nom at 06:58, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 27

Michał Klepfisz

  • Comment: This is an expansion, not a new article. By my count I've done the 5X expansion from this version [4] though I'm not sure how this is actually measured (characters? kbs?). Anyway, I've pretty much exhausted every online source available in Polish and English, and a few offline as well. I've also found and added an image.

5x expanded by Radeksz (talk). Self nom at 06:40, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

H7 (monogram)

  • Comment: Moved from userpage on 27 september

Created by Geschichte (talk), Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 22:38, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of places of worship in Worthing

The Church of the English Martyrs in the Goring-by-Sea area of Worthing has a scale replica of Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel ceiling.

  • Comment: Reffed at the end of the "Location of Worthing..." paragraph. No pic of the ceiling ... sorry ... they sell postcards of it and stuff, so I don't think I could take a photo and release it under a suitably free licence.

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 22:24, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kafr 'Inan

5x expanded by Tiamut (talk), Huldra (talk). Self nom at 11:38, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Thado Minsaw

Created by Hybernator (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 08:06, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Maarud

Created by Sjakkalle (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 07:53, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have checked the Norwegian refs, and they are fine. (What I miss is a link to the greatest film-diva in Norway; Wenche Foss ..AFAIK, the Thomas Stang mentioned in the article was her late husband (also father of the present Mayor of Oslo)). Perhaps for future expansion? Cheers, Huldra (talk) 16:43, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anna Deinet

Created by Rlendog (talk), Singingdaisies (talk). Self nom at 00:18, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Complejo Forestal y Maderero Panguipulli

Created by Dentren (talk). Self nom at 09:03, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Freddy Bienstock

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Nominated by Alansohn (talk) at 02:48, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Marie Haupt, Josephine Schefsky‎, Friederike Grün‎

Created by Rlendog (talk), Singingdaisies (talk). Self nom at 01:40, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Luise Jaide

Created by Rlendog (talk), Singingdaisies (talk). Self nom at 01:15, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Dwarf lanternshark, spined pygmy shark, pygmy ribbontail catshark

5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 04:20, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • This looks OK - ref checks out. The second and third articles don't get a tick with the DYKcheck tool but they appear, based on bytes added, to both be large expansions, from less than 2000kb in both cases, to over 7000 in one case, and over 12000 in the other. i would give the whole thing the tick. hamiltonstone (talk) 01:15, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Truman C. Everts

Created by Dmadeo (talk). Self nom at 04:12, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pinkie C. Wilkerson

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 00:34, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


OR ALT1... that an annual award honoring "outstanding state legislators" presented by the National Bar Association is named for the Louisiana State Representative Pinkie C. Wilkerson?
OR ALT2 ... the Louisiana State Representative Pinkie C. Wilkerson sponsored awareness programs to prevent diabetes, cancer, lupus, and cardiovascular disease?
OR ALT3 ... the Louisiana State Representative Pinkie C. Wilkerson succeeded in 1993 in establishing a statewide hot line to reach compulsive gamblers?

Dymitr of Goraj

Dymitr and Jadwiga

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 23:11, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Horkstow Bridge

Horkstow Bridge

Created by Struway2 (talk). Self nom at 22:31, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nice. Length and age are good, as are references. I would go with ALT1. -Kieran (talk) 01:24, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Military coups in Pakistan

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Self nom at 21:23, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Cullen (businessman)

5x expanded by GainLine (talk). Self nom at 21:01, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tacchi Venturi

Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 20:54, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wong Fu Productions

Created by Arsonal (talk). Self nom at 19:42, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tibetan beer

  • ... that the Lhasa Brewery Company, which produces Tibetan beer is the highest commercial brewery in the world?

Created by Himalayan Explorer (talk). Self nom at 16:30, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Turkish Airlines Flight 452

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self nom at 14:54, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Do we mean the "aircraft" when we say "flight"? I mean "the accident occurred on the flight", which is for my POV the correct expression. However, I am eager to be tought. Besides, it is not the worst accident in Turkish aviation history, because the crash of Turkish Airlines Flight 981, which occurred in France, caused the death of 346 people. The accident of Turkish Airlines Flight 452 is the worst aviation accident in Turkey. Please recheck. CeeGee (talk) 17:41, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • In aviation parlance, "Flight 452" refers to the aircraft itself, as in "We can't find Flight 452 on our radar" or "Flight 452 will be arriving 15 minutes early." If you say an accident occured on Flight 452, it sounds like the flight attendant spilled coffee on someone's lap or a passenger was hit on the head by a piece of luggage that fell out of the overhead bin. As far as my thinking the accident was the worst in Turkish aviation history, this misunderstanding was due to the sentence "It is Turkey's all times worst aviation accident," which does not necessarily mean it was the worst accident ever within the borders of Turkey, which is what you meant to say. I think it's simply a matter of wording things to make them as clear and as accurate as possible. I made a few minor changes to the article lead so the facts are clear.
  • ALT 3: ... that the 1976 crash of Turkish Airlines Flight 452, resulting in the death of 154 people, is the all-time worst aviation accident on Turkish soil?
  • ALT 4: ... that the 1976 crash of Turkish Airlines Flight 452, resulting in the death of 154 people, was due to pilot error? LargoLarry (talk) 13:14, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you very much indeed for clarification. I would prefer "ALT 3" with a tiny modification like this:
ALT 3A: ... that the 1976 crash of Turkish Airlines Flight 452, resulting in the death of 154 people, is the all-time worst aviation accident in Turkey? CeeGee (talk) 18:29, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thyreus nitidulus

Created by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 13:38, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tromzikhang

Created by Himalayan Explorer (talk). Self nom at 12:24, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Rapid automatized naming

  • ... that the rapid automatized naming of objects, pictures and colors in pre-literate children predicts their later success in learning to read?

Created by LittleHow (talk). Self nom at 09:56, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tamarix aphylla

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 07:02, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Inon Zur

  • ... that for the score of the Prince of Persia, composer Inon Zur combined classical orchestral music with Arabic flutes and the woodwind duduk (pictured)?

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 04:32, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Women of the Sun

Created by 72.74.196.197 (talk). Nominated by Someguy1221 (talk) at 04:10, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on September 26

Taylor Townsend (Louisiana politician)

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:30, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gibraltar National Day

The release of 30,000 red and white balloons representing the people of Gibraltar.

Created by Gibmetal77 (talk). Self nom at 21:00, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Treaty of 815

Created by Gligan (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 08:19, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Llandovery Bank

Created by Vouliagmeni (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 07:53, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Victor Alter

  • Comment: I'd make this one and Henryk Ehrlich a two for one but I have no idea how to do that.

Created by Radeksz (talk). Self nom at 08:12, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Henryk Ehrlich

Created by Radeksz (talk). Self nom at 08:07, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Union Mill Complex

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 19:43, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Holy Assumption of the Virgin Mary Church

Created/expanded by Grsz11 (talk). Self nom at 14:24, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Not really. It's all fact. At that time the natives in that region went to Russian churches and Russian schools. Even today, the Dena'ina make up a majority of the Orthodox population in the region. Grsz11 14:16, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • What you just stated may well be fact (and could even be a possible DYK), but your ALT suggestion above is a loaded POV based on that fact. Your use of the word "assimilate" makes that particularly evident. You turned a DYK nomination about humanitarian efforts to save lives into an ALT about assimilation and implied domination. —gorgan_almighty (talk) 15:18, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Lady of Red Butte

Dorothy Dalton
Dorothy Dalton
  • ... that after a fanatical evangelist prays for a fire to destroy a saloon run by The Lady of Red Butte (pictured), a fire sweeps through the town, leaving only the saloon unharmed?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 16:10, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • You're right. It was not a very good hook. Here's an alt hook that I think is better.

Heinrich Vogl, Therese Vogl

Created by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 13:57, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Other Economic Summit

  • ... that The Other Economic Summit (TOES) was first held in 1984 and called for the system of global economic governance to be democratised?

Created by SasiSasi (talk). Self nom at 12:18, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Wagon Tracks

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 07:56, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hamburg Police

Created by Sebastian scha. (talk). Self nom at 07:16, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Music Show (Ireland)

  • ... that The Coronas had to be escorted out of the building after being mobbed by their fans following a performance at The Music Show in 2008?

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Self-nom at 03:49, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jean Fontenoy

Created by Keresaspa (talk). Nominated by Carabinieri (talk) at 01:54, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Rumors of extramarital affairs are normally unsuitable for DYK. A "subject of gossip campaign" would sound better, but, you have to provide details in the article on that campaign (so that we could decide whether it is notable for a DYK hook). Materialscientist (talk) 11:43, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Example. If it were rumors which did not pretend to be credible then it is not for DYK. If it was something like a media campaign, which pretended to be true and aimed to discredit the subject then it might be notable. In any case, the hook issue needs a clear description in the article. Materialscientist (talk) 22:52, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I guess you're right. I don't know if the source elaborates on that point at all. I don't think the article has any other usable facts, so I guess this nomination is dead.--Carabinieri (talk) 20:32, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Robert van Genechten

Created by Keresaspa (talk). Nominated by Carabinieri (talk) at 01:50, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Robert E. Cox

Created by GHJmover (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 01:08, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dean L. Hubbard

Created by Americasroof (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 00:59, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stone Bridge and the Oregon Central Military Wagon Road

Created by Orygun (talk). Self nom at 23:38, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gary Lakes

Created by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 20:27, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tsushima Incident

Created by PHG (talk). Self nom at 19:25, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nana Palsikar

Created by Shshshsh (talk) and Himalayan Explorer (talk). Nominated by Himalayan Explorer (talk) at 16:14, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The film is a 1963 film, why have you changed this. As pretty normal with film awards the film was awarded the following year in 1964. Danny Boyle's film for instance was released in 2008 but one an Oscar in 2009.19:24, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

I changed it to try to match the sources given for the article. You are (of course) free to change it, but please make sure the reference citations back up what you say in the article, including dates. Thanks! Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 19:39, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The awards for these particular films were given two years later (1962, first award; 1965, second award). It often happens when a film does not get a wide release at the beginning. So the award years should be precise. As for the films - the year of release, that's what matters. For the record, sources should back up claims, not claims the sources. Shahid • Talk2me 19:58, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No, the other way around, per WP:V and WP:RS are the standards for referencing. Regards, —mattisse (Talk) 20:02, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That's actually what the policies support. The awards for Shehar Aur Sapna were given to him in the year 1965, not 64. Shahid • Talk2me 21:45, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Inmos microprocessor factory

Created by Seth Whales (talk). Self nom at 13:09, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cranbury Park

Cranbury House
Cranbury House

Created by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk). Self nom at 07:11, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sundowner (yacht)

5x expanded by Dawkeye (talk). Self nom at 16:31, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on September 25

George Wilson Bridges

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 21:23, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bruce Spizer

Created by Arxiloxos (talk). Self nom at 21:06, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I also prefer the first hook. As to the second, now that you point it out, I see the potential ambiguity: the NYT article refers to six books but then lists all seven, including the then-unreleased seventh one. The recent Times-Picayune article states, "Because Spizer wrote the book about the Mop Tops. In fact, he wrote seven." (But it doesn't list them all.) I'll add additional footnotes (including one to Spizer's website to confirm that the seventh book was actually released), but as far as the DYK is concerned, I agree that the first hook is the way to go.--Arxiloxos (talk) 16:55, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Ne'er-do-Weel

  • ... that W. S. Gilbert's 1878 play The Ne'er-do-Weel was so poorly received by the critics that he was forced to rewrite and restage it as The Vagabond?

Created by Jack1956 (talk) and Ssilvers (talk). Nom by Jack1956 at 15:48, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


HMS Owen Glendower (1808)

HMS Owen Glendower

Created by Acad Ronin (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 18:41, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Victuallers. BTW, the page has moved from "HMS Owen Glendower" to "HMS Owen Glendower (1808)", and I've updated the links in the hook and the wikicodes of DYK templates. --PFHLai (talk) 01:30, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Edvard Hjelt

5x expanded by Stone (talk). Self nom at 17:24, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Solosmasthana

5x expanded by Chamal N (talk). Self nom at 14:52, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Elenska Basilica

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 13:22, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Brookside Museum

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 05:43, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Wally Tax

  • ... that Dutch rocker Wally Tax learned English before he was 11, so he could be a more effective pimp to American sailors in the Port of Amsterdam?

Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 13:09, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Julius Anton Glaser

Created by Sandstein (talk). Self nom at 07:31, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jake Long

5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 06:54, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jean de La Forêt

Created by PHG (talk). Self nom at 05:09, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Phoebe

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:55, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Honestly, Celeste!

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 05:07, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ricks Spring

The cave from which Ricks Spring emenates

  • ... that Ricks Spring has been a recreation area since the 19th century, but cave divers didn't enter it until the 21st?
  • Comment: I'm not sure that hook is the best written ever.

Created by Miami33139 (talk). Self nom at 03:33, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Major League Baseball Comeback Player of the Year Award

5x expanded by Staxringold (talk). Self nom at 01:01, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, but for a different reason. There are about 3000 bytes of text in the table that we don't count, so we might count that for 400 more characters. But it isn't 5x. F2 makes it clear that "wildly incorrect" doesn't count. It's the prose portion, not the entire article, that has to expand 5 times. So it expanded from 780 to 1104. Only by counting nearly all the text in the table as prose would it make 5x. So I don't predict it will be approved (I don't do approvals). 5x780-1104=2796 more bytes of prose as defined above (not tables or list) would take the article beyond the gray area. Art LaPella (talk) 03:43, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1703 Apennine earthquakes

Created by Mikenorton (talk). Self nom at 21:32, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

National Prayer Network

Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Self nom at 20:48, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here are some other hooks you could use instead if you prefer:
Hook2: "... that the National Prayer Network has published video called Shaking Campus Liberalism: How Christian Students Defied the Pro-Gay Faculty…and Won!?
Hook3: "... that the Clackamas, Oregon-based National Prayer Network is now run by Ted Pike, but was originally founded in 1979 by Ted's late father Claude Pike? Stonemason89 (talk) 00:29, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Balangay

Created by Lovebus (talk). --> Nominated by ᜊᜓᜅ ᜅ᜔ ᜑᜎᜋᜅ᜔ ᜋᜑᜒᜏᜄ (ᜂᜐᜉ)Baybayin 21:05, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • (i) Most refs are either incomplete, bare-url or non-reliable. (ii) The article reads "Goods, such as the statue of Avalokiteśvara and the Golden Tara of Butuan, were vital products traded across the Malay Archipelago" (?!?) and this reflects into this hook. The supporting ref doesn't seem to confirm that, and it is really hard to believe that the unique statue shown was a regular and vital trade object. Materialscientist (talk) 12:11, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Several objects like that have been found al over the Malay Archipelago so it's pretty common but I won't argue.--ᜊᜓᜅ ᜅ᜔ ᜑᜎᜋᜅ᜔ ᜋᜑᜒᜏᜄ (ᜂᜐᜉ)Baybayin 17:42, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
ALT 1
FYI User who nominated Balangay to DYK modified a re-assessed the article without consulting the WikiProject involved. WP:PINOY was not contacted or called somebody who are "in-charge" of the re-assessment. Per WP:PINOY guidelines in re-assessing articles, "Any participant of the Tambayan Philippines is free to add—or change—the rating of an article. If you want to request that an article be rated, please suggest it at the talk page. If you don't agree with a rating, you can also request that it be reassessed at the talk page." (see here).--JL 09 q?c 18:04, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This is not a DYK issue. Materialscientist (talk) 00:33, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Re: to Materialscientist. I added a fact based on BigDoom's comment. Thanks.--JL 09 q?c 07:36, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've added some reliable sources, mostly about the lead, could you check them, thanks.--ᜊᜓᜅ ᜅ᜔ ᜑᜎᜋᜅ᜔ ᜋᜑᜒᜏᜄ (ᜂᜐᜉ)Baybayin 06:12, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Better, but not there yet. We require the content of every paragraph to be covered by at least one reliable-source reference, which is far from the case. (note I've kept ref. 1 for now, but it is actually a blog, i.e. not a reliable source). Materialscientist (talk) 11:12, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Is it fine now?--ᜊᜓᜅ ᜅ᜔ ᜑᜎᜋᜅ᜔ ᜋᜑᜒᜏᜄ (ᜂᜐᜉ)Baybayin 16:27, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It is Ok for DYK, but I would recommend further quality improvement. Materialscientist (talk) 06:22, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

J. Soedradjad Djiwandono

Created by Arsonal (talk). Self nom at 17:45, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Cellared in Canada

5x expanded by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 17:35, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tutinama

  • ... that Tutinama is a collection of 52 Persian stories narrated through a parrot to prevent his owner (pictured) from committing adultery while her husband was away on business affairs?
  • Comment: Stub article expanded by more than five times

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 14:27, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Inderøy District Court

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 13:23, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wootton Bassett railway station

Created by Geof Sheppard (talk). Self nom at 13:00, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Misterioso, Jr.

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self nom at 12:11, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Muffins

Created by Bruce1ee (talk). Self nom at 06:39, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 24

Gina Krog, Hagbard Emanuel Berner

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 01:29, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Paul L. Foshee

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:53, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Byne's Disease

"infected" bivalve shell

Created by Daniel Cavallari (talk). Nominated by Snek01 (talk) at 10:42, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply] 

Or slightly rewritten:
  • Alt 1: ... that Byne's disease (pictured) is not actually a disease, but a chemical reaction that attacks shells in storage or on display?
Invertzoo (talk) 14:24, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

51 Ophiuchi

Created by Mkuchner (talk). Nominated by Bender235 (talk) at 10:54, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Meet Mr. McNutley

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 05:22, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


ALT ... that after Walt Disney saw child actor David Stollery in an episode of CBS's The Ray Milland Show, he signed him to play Marty in the serial, The Adventures of Spin and Marty?

Wolfe Kelman, Naamah Kelman

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 21:14, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Bent function

Created by Ntsimp (talk). Self nom at 16:17, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Western Ukrainian Clergy

Created by Faustian (Faustian). Nominated by Self-nominated (self-nominated) at 14:19, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Klamath Diversion

Created by Shannontalk contribs sign!:) 04:16, 25 September 2009 (UTC). Self nom at 04:15, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Commissioner's Historic Achievement Award

5x expanded by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 02:06, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Landflucht

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 22:38, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Encyclopedia of Chicago

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 20:58, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 23

Eparchaean Unconformity (Tirupati hills)

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 09:20, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • i think this will get sorted out, but one of the lead sentences has raised some problems which I have flagged with the article creator. Once that is copyedited for clarity i hope this will be OK to go. hamiltonstone (talk) 23:58, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Online refs OK (though one appears to contain a significant typo, which led to an age gap of 800 rather than 500 being quoted in the first draft of the hook - and article). Offline AGF. Copyedited the main issues. Now good to go. hamiltonstone (talk) 02:37, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It's not obvious to me how this unconformity is also a fault. Mikenorton (talk) 16:33, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Forgive me if I'm teaching you to suck eggs but in geography/plate tectonics a "crack" between plates is a "fault" and its an "unconformity" in the rock structure .... oh and if you are reading this and you are a Ph.d in geography then forgive that explanation Victuallers (talk) 20:29, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Fault (geology) linked in hook. In fact he has a PhD in geology per user page, so the question better be answered. Johnbod (talk) 01:35, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • And see my further comment in the same place, I would be happy with a change from "is a fault plane" to "is a major discontinuity".
also the granite is not archean if it's 2100 Ma, that's early Proterozoic. Mikenorton (talk) 07:08, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Since I am a civil engineer working with geologists on projects in Himalayas, I accept your valued suggestions as a geologist. I am making the necessary change in the artcile.--Nvvchar (talk) 14:47, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Otter Centre

Created by Bermicourt (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 04:48, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Christian music industry

5x expanded by DantheCowMan (talk). Self nom at 06:13, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What, you happen to have access to a copy of the 1997 CCM Magazine issue, and it isn't in there? This is not an online source. Johnbod (talk) 14:22, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
How can a 1997 source cover a period that ends in 1999? I checked source [4] which covers a very similar claim. Shoemaker's Holiday Over 210 FCs served 16:54, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(Unindent) It's actually a broad statement and can be backed by multiple general sources. In addition to source #15 try these:

  • Cusic (pp 384-385, 2002 edition) states "Between 1991 and 1996 Gospel / Christian averaged a 22% growth rate each year while other formats has a growth rate of about 5 percent."
Cusic is echoing data produced by the RIAA, as indicated by a report in CCM update, 1996-03-25, "Survey Reports Gospel As Fastest-Growing Genre", which reported that "ACCORDING TO A new survey released last week by the Gospel Music Association (GMA), gospel music is growing at a faster rate than any other major form of popular music. Since 1991, gospel music has averaged 22 percent growth each year, while genres such as rock, pop, urban, country and rap have seen annual growth rates of five percent or below, according the study and independent data provided by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA)."
  • Source #13 covers 1998, it's text begins "OF THE $1.5 BILLION increase in sales of recorded music in 1998, topping out at $13.7 billion, gospel saw the most growth of any genre, climbing from a 4.5 percent marketshare in 1997 to 6.3 percent in 1998 -- a 29 percent increase -- according to the Recording Industry Association of America's annual Consumer Profile Report released last week. Gospel music's 6.3 percent marketshare translates into $863 million in '98, up from $549 million in '97."

Anyway, that covers most of the 1990s, and there may be more out there, if one digs a little. Additionally, CCM Update is a different publication from CCM Magazine. Although they both share the same publisher, Update was a weekly trade publication, aimed at the industry rather than the consumer. I have an electronic archive of it, and I offer to send the file in it's entirety to anyone who would like a copy. Dan, the CowMan (talk) 20:34, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Er, thanks, no. I'm ready to AGF on that, especially with the above. You might explain more about the update at the top of the refs. Johnbod (talk) 01:31, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Congestion Control (Road Vehicles)

Created by Dougdoug2doug (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 21:58, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Casuals United

  • ... that the English far-right hooligan group Casuals United was formed in response to Islamist protests against Britain's involvement in the Iraq War?

Created/expanded by Francium12 (talk). Self nom at 15:43, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hook is verified and it has been 5x expanded, it fails DYK check but I think that is because it was expanded too long ago now but that wouldn't have been the case if it has been reviewed earlier. Smartse (talk) 16:04, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would be deeply and profoundly uncomfortable if this article went on the main page in its current form.
  • If you have any concerns please raise them on the talk page. I realise promoting articles on far right hooligan groups isn't to everyones taste but it is a neutral article which is well referenced and now free of any POV  Francium12  09:42, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 22

Adolf Bniński

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 23:29, 22 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • ... the article gives the impression that he was torture and killed and then (his body?) he was maybe fed to wild animals ...maybe lions. I can't , get to/understand the ref, but I think the hook stretches what the article says .... oh! and I copyeditted the article.Victuallers (talk) 09:22, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article says "according to some sources he could have even been fed to wild animals (lions)" and cites a newspaper interview (no factual evidence there). Facts please. Materialscientist (talk) 11:23, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sally Boazman

  • ... that BBC traffic reporter Sally Traffic has also narrated poetry albums for the blind?

Created by Miami33139 (talk). Self nom at 18:49, 22 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Boazman was described as "bit of a superhero for motorists",[4] by Autotrader UK as the 'sexiest voice on the radio'[5] and by veteran broadcaster Steve Wright as a 'national treasure' who changed the way traffic reporting was done.[6] Her fans have named a thoroughbred race horse after her, [7] (who occasionally even won[8]) as well as lorry trucks.[9] Miami33139 (talk) 15:07, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 21

New Jersey Route 85

5x expanded by Mitchazenia (talk). Self nom at 00:42, 22 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What the article says, I think, is that the state focused on a rail line instead of route 85. The hook should be reworded to make this clear. Or how about this alt:
  • ALT1: ... that although the New Jersey Route 85 freeway was never built, it is still listed in the state's Route Log?
≈ Chamal talk ¤ 07:56, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Special occasion holding area

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools'). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.


Articles held for use on October 5

Francisco Carreón

First official flag of the Katipunan

Created by 23prootie (talk). Self nom at 12:06, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles held for use on October 4

List of Suzuka Circuit fatal accidents

  • ... that one driver was killed at Suzuka Circuit (pictured) when he was struck by another car just after he exited his stricken car?

Created/expanded by Donnie Park (talk). Self nom at 15:09, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


See also

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