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Masoud Pezeshkian in June 2024
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Glossary

  • Blurbs are one-sentence summaries of the news story.
    • Altblurbs, labelled alt1, alt2, etc., are alternative suggestions to cover the same story.
    • A target article, bolded in text, is the focus of the story. Each blurb must have at least one such article, but you may also link non-target articles.
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Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready!
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Please do...

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  • 2016 Taiwan earthquake
    • The death toll from the earthquake rises to 94 with 550 people injured, and at least 30 more missing and believed buried in the apartment complex rubble in Tainan. (CNN)

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[Added to ongoing] Zika and Microcephaly [Update?]

Not a new ITN entry, just a potential update to the existing entry, such that

The rapid spread of Zika fever, associated with microcephaly in newborns, in Latin America leads to the World Health Organization issuing a Public Health Emergency of International Concern.

From two studies reported now in NEJM and MMWR. --bender235 (talk) 16:41, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Zika blurb has fallen off of the template, so I think that this can be closed. Mamyles (talk) 18:23, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Or should it be made ongoing? – Muboshgu (talk) 18:45, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support for ongoing. Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 19:15, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. I believe these papers are merely formal journal publications of news that has previously been circulating. I would nevertheless support reinstating Zika at ongoing on the basis of ongoing news items on a daily basis, as well as continued interest in Zika (I believe Zika virus came 2nd in last week's traffic report); the Zika articles are being updated, though there are so many now some are lagging behind. Espresso Addict (talk) 00:04, 12 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Added to ongoing Stephen 00:27, 12 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Post-posting support for ongoing -- at least until the Olympics or until an effective prophylactic is discovered. - Tenebris

[Posted] LIGO announces detection of gravitational waves round 2

Articles: Gravitational wave detection, February 2016 (talk · history · tag) and Gravitational wave (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The LIGO experiment announces the first direct observation of gravitational waves. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The LIGO experiment announces the direct observation of gravitational waves caused by black holes merging.
News source(s): (Nature), (Guardian), (New York Times)
Credits:
 Smurrayinchester 15:44, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[Closed] LIGO announces detection of gravitational waves

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Articles: Gravitational wave (talk · history · tag) and LIGO (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The LIGO project announces the detection of gravitational waves generated as a result of the merger of two black holes. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The LIGO project announces the apparent direct detection of gravitational waves; these were generated as a result of the merger of two black holes.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The LIGO project announces the apparent direct detection of Einstein-predicted gravitational waves; these were generated as a result of the merger of two black holes.
News source(s): LIGO (on 11th of February), Science
Credits:

Both articles need updating
Nominator's comments: This is to be announced on Thursday, but the news has leaked out (there were already rumors many months ago). Count Iblis (talk) 05:22, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait. Probably obvious post after the official news release. Nergaal (talk) 06:23, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Concur with Nergaal. Banedon (talk) 06:46, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • We can't post on a rumour. If this is true, then it's just about the most obvious post in years, but not now. Guess close this now and open a new one on any genuine announcement. Fgf10 (talk) 08:59, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait for the official announcement. Rumours based on a leaked e-mail circulating on twitter seem to define unreliable, even when published in Science. Espresso Addict (talk) 09:11, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Concur with others about waiting. Then almost certain post, subject to article quality and to blurb quality, as this is an area where cautious wording is probably called for: These waves have been searched for ever since Einstein predicted them, so their discovery would be hugely important, but I understand there have been claimed discoveries before, including recently, which have not stood the test of time, and in the past ITN has seemingly been unduly incautious with some sensational claimed scientific discoveries, such as Dua's Layer. Appropriately cautious wording would probably also be required in the text of the articles. Tlhslobus (talk) 16:32, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • My above-mentioned 'understanding' regarding recent claims was correct: Primordial gravitational waves are gravitational waves observed in the cosmic microwave background. They were allegedly detected by the BICEP2 instrument, an announcement made on 17 March 2014, which was withdrawn on 30 January 2015 ("the signal can be entirely attributed to dust in the Milky Way"[34]).Tlhslobus (talk) 16:39, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • With such caution in mind I've added an altblurb with the extra word possible.Tlhslobus (talk) 16:46, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • If preferred, some alternative words or expressions such as apparent or (not yet independently confirmed) might also do the job of expressing suitable caution.Tlhslobus (talk) 16:53, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • On the other hand, I've also added an altblurb2 with Einstein-predicted to give the ordinary reader an indication of the possible importance of the discovery. (I've added a comma after waves, since I don't know whether Einstein's prediction was in the context of black holes, let alone merging black holes.) Tlhslobus (talk) 17:21, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm also adding the comma to my first altblurb, as such a comma after waves is probably wanted even without Einstein predicted, as the important item is that it's (allegedly) the discovery of gravitational waves, whereas the merging black holes seems relatively trivial. (After expected publication on Thursday, we will need to phrase the blurb to try to ensure that the reader doesn't get the misleading impression that gravitational waves may have been discovered before in contexts other than merging black holes).Tlhslobus (talk) 17:38, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • With that in mind, I'm replacing the comma with ; these were in both my altblurbs. Tlhslobus (talk) 17:43, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • On reflection, apparent will probably be better than possible, unless the authors themselves say 'possible', so I've amended my 2 altblurbs accordingly.Tlhslobus (talk) 17:51, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment, obviously we must wait until it is announced, but since this is likely to be a massive breaking news event (according to the rumors it's a solid more than 5 sigma's observation involving two independent detectors that both detected the characteristic features of such a signal and with the time lag between the two detected signals ruling out some freak terrestrial artifact), one can already look into both Wiki articles and make an assessment if the news can be edited in on Thursday, and there may be other possible problems that may need to be fixed. Count Iblis (talk) 18:28, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fair enough regarding assessing the articles. But regarding the alleged news itself, the last incorrect claim was similarly not the result of any freak terrestrial artefact; the fact that it has taken so many decades to detect waves which are supposed to be occurring all the time, is itself grounds for caution, even without the past mistaken claim(s).Tlhslobus (talk) 19:10, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Incidentally, at first perusal the articles both look great to me, but I don't think I'm qualified to judge (and some may object that there's two much maths in the Gravitational Wave article - again I don't feel qualified to judge that).Tlhslobus (talk) 19:35, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Gravitational Waves article not looking quite so great on closer inspection, tho again I'm probably far too poorly qualified to judge.Tlhslobus (talk) 21:21, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose
  • At the moment there is just rumours.
  • The LIGO project announces would be a primary source statement, which is not a RS. Everyone still remembers another recent case of a huge announcement that turned out to be nothing after the result was reviewed.
  • This should be closed, and only when there is an actual announcement with either a peer-reviewed paper or RS reporting by scientists (not just journalists repeating an announcement) there is a basis for any kind of discussion.
LoveToLondon (talk) 20:09, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Close: We're all agreed that nothing is going ahead until if and when it's official. But some of us think that in the meantime preliminary discussion of various issues here and now may usefully speed up the process of getting the item ready for posting if and when it's needed later.Tlhslobus (talk) 21:11, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's WP:CRYSTAL. What exactly will be getting on Thursday? A press conference alone would not be sufficient for obvious reasons - it is not even an RS for updating the article. A peer-reviewed paper is pretty much the minimum requirement for taking any scientific results seriously. announces the apparent like in the altblurbs would be a clear indication that it must not be posted to ITN - it is either confirmed or a publicity stunt. LoveToLondon (talk) 21:27, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Adding direct detection to altblurbs - they have arguably already been indirectly detected long ago, with a Nobel prize handed out in 1993 for showing the energy loss of binary neutron stars to be consistent with the emission of gravity waves.Tlhslobus (talk) 21:16, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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[Closed] Successful recovery of a cryogenically frozen mammal brain

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Article: Cryonics (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Scientists have successfully frozen and recovered for the first time the brain of a mammal. (Post)
News source(s): Brain Preservation Foundation, research article, DailyMail, Newsweek
Article needs updating
Nominator's comments: Kinda weird but potentially really important development. I remember this was a big topic in the 90s until people realized that freezing brains damages them too much. Now a team has managed to recover an essentially undamaged rabbit brain, the first time done for a mammal. Seems the research was published a few months ago but it is getting picked up by news sites now. Nergaal (talk) 18:59, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • From the Newsweek article's addendum: "Correction | The article originally stated that the brain had been recovered. It has been updated to clarify that the rabbit brain has so far only been preserved, not recovered." Therefore, oppose blurb on principle of an inaccurate claim.--WaltCip (talk) 19:02, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose. The claim isn't "a team has managed to recover an essentially undamaged rabbit brain", it's that the team has managed to freeze a rabbit brain without causing visible structural damage; unsurprisingly for those familiar with that organ, the Daily Mail has got the wrong end of the stick; the original source even makes it clear that this isn't scalable to larger animals and they're now going to try to freeze a pig brain. Total non-story. ‑ Iridescent 19:10, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose if we didn't read the articles we'd be duped by this. The blurb is actually completely incorrect. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:26, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. With an accurate blurb this might actually be interesting. The news is that a prize instituted in 2010 by the Brain Preservation Federation has been won by a new technique, aldehyde-stabilised cryopreservation. It's hard to tell how notable either the prize or the development is, given that the article on cryonics hasn't been updated and we don't have an article on the foundation. It might be suited to DYK, if the prize were deemed notable enough to support a new article being created on the technique. Espresso Addict (talk) 22:30, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Complete and utter nonsense. Sorry for the strong words, but that is one of the most misleading blurbs and press statements I've ever seen. It would be good if people actually bothered going to the actual paper, which doesn't make any of these claims. For starters, the brain is fixed in gluteraldedyhe.... For anyone who know even the slightest bit about biochemistry, that already makes it completely obvious there is never going to be any recovery. Structural preservation? Sure. Functional recovery? After hell freezes over. Fgf10 (talk) 08:11, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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[Closed] Dikwa bombing

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Article: No article specified
Blurb: ​ Two female suicide bombers kill more than 60 people at a camp for displaced people in Dikwa, Nigeria. (Post)
News source(s): (Al Jazeera) (Reuters) (ABC News)
Credits:
 Spirit Ethanol (talk) 19:17, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose - Ignoring the fact there is no article, this seems part of the continued Boko Haram situation in Nigeria, and thus not an isolated even (50,000 + ppl have died in the Boko Haram uprising since according to one of the linked articles). --MASEM (t) 19:20, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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[Posted] Bad Aibling rail accident

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Article: Bad Aibling rail accident (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Nine people are killed in a head-on collision (train involved pictured) between two passenger trains near Bad Aibling, Germany. (Post)
Credits:

Article needs updating
Nominator's comments: Breaking news, appears a significant accident. Article needs bashing into shape but expect it will be as info becomes available is being bashed into shape. Currently eight deaths, possibly more to be confirmed. Mjroots (talk) 09:17, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Well the name seems in line with standing practice. Looking at Category:Railway accidents in Germany, normally not the Bundesland, but the village is named, even if they are largely unknown outside the region... L.tak (talk) 14:16, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@L.tak: - this is not the place to discuss the issue. Go to talk:Bad Aibling rail accident. Mjroots (talk) 14:20, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It's immediately recognizable, at least to many US readers. Mamyles (talk) 23:20, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Posting today with the help of this seemingly misleading argument reinforces my initial gut feeling that this item should be pulled due insufficient notability, but I'd prefer to hear more views on this before voting to pull.Tlhslobus (talk) 18:40, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • IMHO, that comment after the oppose vote shows a mature editor who knows the consensus is against him/her and accepts the fact without continually harping on about it. Mjroots (talk) 20:29, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
      • Maybe I'm miscounting, but I think there were 9 opposes (10 originally but 1 switched) of whom I think 2 said they would support in another week and 1 said they might support in a different week, so it looks to me like no hope of consensus to post even in a different week. So to me it looks like a kindly editor commendably going out of her way to avoid hurting the nominator's feelings, and who has seemingly also changed her own mind as to the precise reason why she's still opposing the nomination. But it's now academic as there's no support for pulling today.Tlhslobus (talk) 22:02, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
        • AFAIK, it's not a simple !vote count. Mjroots (talk) 22:05, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
          • True, it's not a vote, you need a consensus to post, and with that many opposed there was clearly going to be no consensus. But this is now a pointless academic discussion, so provided anything you care to say is not unduly provocative (and perhaps even if it is) please feel free to have the last word here before some admin sensibly closes the item to avoid further unproductive discussion.Tlhslobus (talk) 22:26, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Post-posting support Precedent is not binding here. Postability is completely subjective, beyond guidelines set at WP:ITN and WP:ITNR. Borderline items can miss out because of a busy week, for example. Personally, my opinion is that this particular event is notable enough to post. Mamyles (talk) 18:57, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] RD: Sushil Koirala

Article: Sushil Koirala (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Incumbent president of Nepali Congress and former Prime Minister Sushil Koirala dies at 76. (Post)
News source(s): The Kathmandu Post Zee News
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Former PM, incumbent president of Congress (died in office). Seems to be very important in his country. EternalNomad (talk) 00:45, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support article is sparse, and probably could use a ref or two more for a few mostly uncontentious statements, but nothing that would lead me to block this from appearing on the main page. --Jayron32 01:02, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support Generally hesitant about opposing any former world leader (for reference PM in Nepal is the seat of power, the President is a ceremonial position), however, we're also talking a rather short term (under 2 years) and a position that has high rotation (see List of Prime Ministers of Nepal). I feel there's more importance that can be established based on what is little in the article now, though I do note the article is otherwise is seemingly good shape to post. --MASEM (t) 01:05, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose
  • Blurb president of Nepali Congress and nominator comment incumbent president of Congress are misleading - Nepali Congress is not a parliament (like US Congress), it is a political party.
  • Seems to be very important in his country. - he was head of government and leader of the biggest party, which should be enough notability for RD.
  • Article is poor, even basic information like why he lost his position as Prime Minister to someone of a different party is completely missing.
LoveToLondon (talk) 01:25, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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RD: Violette Verdy

Article: Violette Verdy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times Telegraph ABC News
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Described in sources as a "leading ballerina of the 20th century", received many awards for her dancing and directing, lead for NY Ballet fo 20 years. MurielMary (talk) 11:08, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support Article in good shape and well-sourced (if not as charming as her New York Times obituary). One of the last great Balanchine dancers, independently notable for her prominent artistic directorships. Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 15:14, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support once updated Importance clear, article is in good shape, outside of the lack of mention of her death in the prose which should be easy to fix. --MASEM (t) 15:24, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Some journalist at AP writing in an obituary A leading ballerina of the 20th century is very blurry and obituaries tend to describe the achievements of the deceased too positive (ABC just has a verbatim copy from AP). The awards section lists the lowest ranks of two French medals as her highest achievements (France's highest decoration has 5 ranks), and there is nothing in the article that makes it clear whether she was generally considered the leading ballerina in the world. LoveToLondon (talk) 15:25, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Article is sufficient length and sufficiently well written and referenced. I added a few cn tags to a few statements that may need them, so that should probably be fixed, but the article is of sufficient quality to appear on the main page. --Jayron32 15:33, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support once fully updated. She succeeded internationally, inspired leading choreographers, and was a leading teacher and ballet director. The article looks mostly ok, though there are a couple of citations requested and some obituary trivia needs pruning. It needs the past tense applying. Espresso Addict (talk) 23:38, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Most concerns have now been addressed. Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 14:06, 12 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Nida Fazli

Article: Nida Fazli (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Indian Express The Times of India
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: An important lyricist, poet and dialogue writer. Honoured with Padma Shri, 4th highest civilian award in India. Skr15081997 (talk) 08:50, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. I'm having a hard time assessing Fazli's notability. If I recall aright, we have not previously considered the Padma Shri alone as sufficient evidence of importance? How does he compare with the recent nomination, Intizar Hussain (who wasn't posted, mainly for having stub article)? In any case, the article is not yet of postable quality. It needs updating to the past tense. Some parts need work on the tone, which is rather peacocky. More references would be ideal; several long paragraphs only have a single reference. Espresso Addict (talk) 21:01, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose seems to be a marginal call for RD notability. Article is very poor. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:49, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support Article is short, but the prose is fully referenced, and I can't find anything contentious that is lacking a reference. It'd be nice if it were longer, but it's enough for me. --Jayron32 15:31, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] RD: Margaret Forster

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Article: Margaret Forster (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Telegraph BBC The Guardian
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: Award-winning biographer and writer MurielMary (talk) 20:11, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. I was contemplating nominating this. Georgy Girl (book & film) is an influential 1960s film, her biography of Daphne du Maurier is very well known, and Forster gained several awards for various biographies and memoirs. I've found references for most of the statements in the article. I note an IP has changed the date of death to 7th, though 8th is stated by the BBC and other sources. Espresso Addict (talk) 20:35, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I conformed footnotes. Is it true she turned down Queen's honours? Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 21:35, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The vague term Award-winning shows the notability problem - if there is any proof that she was generally considered to be among the top 3 or top 5 authors in the UK that is missing in the article. LoveToLondon (talk) 21:39, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The term Award-winning is a summary of her achievements, not an indication of an notability problem. Also the subject doesn't need to be among the top 3 or top 5 authors in the UK - the field is "biographers" rather than "authors in general". MurielMary (talk) 21:50, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Every person is leading in some field when you define the field narrow enough. And I don't see proof in the article for your claim that she was the leading biographer in the UK - even the sources emphasize her novels in the headlines and summaries. LoveToLondon (talk) 22:45, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Biographer" is a sufficiently broad category; there's a reason we distinguish between "programmer" and "video game designer", after all. It's not like we're saying "Foremost biographer of Daphne du Maurier", which is a considerably more narrow field. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:53, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • The sources are emphasizing her novels, which makes the nominator claim that she was the leading biographer questionable. Are there any sources for the claim that she was in the (already relatively small) field "biographers in the UK" the leading person, or is that nominator claim not true? LoveToLondon (talk) 00:48, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Several sources go into her non-fiction in depth, though most are headlining Georgy Girl because it's so iconic. Reputable obituaries don't usually rate people in that way, and even were they to do so it would only be the personal opinion of the author. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:08, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
LoveToLondon, you are putting words into my mouth, so to speak. I have made no such claim that Forster is the leading biographer in the UK. I have used information from the article to summarise her status into the one adjective "award-winning". The adjective "award-winning" is used with the noun "biographer" because, as stated in the article, she won awards for her biographies. MurielMary (talk) 01:41, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
MurielMary as nominator wrote: the field is "biographers" rather than "authors in general". MurielMary has so far failed to provide proof that she was one of the leading biographers in the world, or at least the leading biographer in the UK. LoveToLondon (talk) 10:37, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The focus of discussions here is "does the article meet the criteria" not "did the nominator do xyz". Kindly bear this in mind; discussing editors in this way is not recommended by WP as it can lead to accusations of personal attacks. MurielMary (talk) 20:52, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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[Posted] RD: Amelia Bence

Article: Amelia Bence (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Lanacion
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Highly profilic actress, covers multiple areas of under-represented areas of coverage on WP: women, Argentina, etc, article is in great shape and there's only one name on the RD ticker at the moment. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 19:00, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you all. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 14:31, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] Super Bowl 50

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Article: Super Bowl 50 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In American football, the Denver Broncos defeat the Carolina Panthers in Super Bowl 50 to win the NFL Championship. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In American football, the Denver Broncos defeat the Carolina Panthers to win Super Bowl 50.
Credits:

Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Nominator's comments: ITNR, one of the most-watched sporting events in the world MASEM (t) 03:13, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Why? I can't recall us ever posting any blurb in a large-font format. 331dot (talk) 03:30, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I think it was sarcasm, 331dot. Jolly Ω Janner 03:33, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
We didn't include the MVP last year(not saying we shouldn't). 331dot (talk) 03:34, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I do want to stress that the game summary is rather important to get into the article ; it was a messy game with lots of turnovers, and wasn't a simple rout. --MASEM (t) 03:38, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Per 331dot, altblurb (or another altblurb). Winning the Super Bowl to win the NFL Championship is redundant. - OldManNeptune 04:22, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Administrator note - Let me save all of you a lot of time that are thinking about posting here: The altblurb will be posted, no matter what, once the article's game summary section is updated. So unless you (1) have something to post here that's completely game changing (no pun intended), or (2) are going to tell us that you've kindly updated the section... Don't waste your time making a comment here. Coffee // have a cup // beans // 04:52, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Ouarzazate solar power station

Article: Ouarzazate solar power station (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Noor 1 solar power plant is commissioned in Morocco (Post)
News source(s): Gizmodo, The Verge
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Nominator's comments: First phase of the largest solar power plant in the world, commissioning of Noor 1 is a major landmark in it's development. yorkshiresky (talk) 15:13, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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RD: Dan Gerson

Article: Dan Gerson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Los Angeles Times
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Writer of Monsters, Inc., Monsters University and Big Hero 6: three of the most successful animated films of the last fifteen years. Big Hero 6 won the Oscar for best animated film, for which Monsters, Inc. was also nominated; he also won a BAFTA. His films grossed (according to figures on Wikipedia) around $2 billion at the box office. Also an unexpectedly and sadly young death, aged 49.
I think the article is now in pretty good shape and ready to post: Gerson just doesn't seem to have done many interviews himself, but there are two good ones I've added transcriptions from. There are a lot of comments on his input by his collaborators (he always collaborated on screenplays, as is normal on animated films) and I've added a fair use image; a screengrab of a video interview. Blythwood (talk) 14:00, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral but leaning support Credit to Blythwood for improving the article for RD, that should not be an issue. It's hard to immediately dismiss this given his bg with a few big movies, but this is also a relatively minor part of the whole process and didn't win any awards directly. --MASEM (t) 18:13, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support a little like Masem. The article isn't really forthcoming as to why this individual is significant in his field, it's barely above stub quality, but at closer inspection his work seems to be nearly unparalleled. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:23, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yes, now expanded significantly and more logical section dividers added. It's annoying: he really doesn't seem to have been the self-promoting type, so he just doesn't seem to have got the attention other Pixar people did! No Twitter page, for example. But now it looks much cleaner. Blythwood (talk) 21:54, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose his work on the big movies was all as part of a team; his role appears to be one of many, not of a leader or a major talent; also he didn't receive any awards or formal recognition for his work. Could he really be described as "top of his field"?? MurielMary (talk) 11:11, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'd say yes, certainly: all his films were hugely successful and popular. And what people have always praised about Pixar is their willingness to work together and endlessly try to improve scripts, so I don't see that the fact that he emphasised that he didn't write alone counts against his eminence. At the end of the day, it was his name on the screenplay, so one can assume the scripts were written with him signing off on everything. Blythwood (talk) 12:38, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • If you are still working on this, Blythwood, you mght like to post on the talk page to try to gain consensus for including it either as a 4th RD or in place of one of the others, otherwise it is unlikely ever to be posted given the three RDs that post-date it. Espresso Addict (talk) 06:37, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] Kaohsiung earthquake

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Article: 2016 Kaohsiung earthquake (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: An earthquake strikes in southern Taiwan. (Post)
News source(s): BBC ABC CBC Los Angeles Times
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Article updated
Nominator's comments: Not the most deadly earthquake to report on, but it has received widespread coverage and it is somewhat in depth (certainly not stubby reports). Article has recently been expanded from a stub. Jolly Ω Janner 03:06, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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[Duplicate Closed, see Feb 3 for original] RD: Joe Alaskey

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Article: Joe Alaskey (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35491123
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Voice actor for Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck and Sylvester the Cat among many, many others. Guy (Help!) 01:32, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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