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*'''Support RD''' - Article looks good. Another victim of Israeli terrorism. [[User:CR-1-AB|CR-1-AB]] ([[User talk:CR-1-AB|talk]]) 12:35, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
*'''Support RD''' - Article looks good. Another victim of Israeli terrorism. [[User:CR-1-AB|CR-1-AB]] ([[User talk:CR-1-AB|talk]]) 12:35, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
*'''Support RD''' good to go. There are exactly zero RS who support that the journalist's death is due to "Israeli terrorism". [[User:Alsoriano97|_-_Alsoriano97]] ([[User talk:Alsoriano97|talk]]) 12:51, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
*'''Support RD''' good to go. There are exactly zero RS who support that the journalist's death is due to "Israeli terrorism". [[User:Alsoriano97|_-_Alsoriano97]] ([[User talk:Alsoriano97|talk]]) 12:51, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
*:Looking at your profile, it makes sense why you would say such a lie. [[User:CR-1-AB|CR-1-AB]] ([[User talk:CR-1-AB|talk]]) 16:09, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
* '''<s>Comment</s> Support RD''' – Very widely covered, almost – but not quite – to the point of being blurbable. – [[User:Sca|Sca]] ([[User talk:Sca|talk]]) 13:01, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
* '''<s>Comment</s> Support RD''' – Very widely covered, almost – but not quite – to the point of being blurbable. – [[User:Sca|Sca]] ([[User talk:Sca|talk]]) 13:01, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
*'''Support RD''' – Extensive coverage by multiple agencies. Article seems fine. [[User:Dora the Axe-plorer|Dora the Axe-plorer]] ([[User talk:Dora the Axe-plorer|explore]]) 14:49, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
*'''Support RD''' – Extensive coverage by multiple agencies. Article seems fine. [[User:Dora the Axe-plorer|Dora the Axe-plorer]] ([[User talk:Dora the Axe-plorer|explore]]) 14:49, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

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May 11

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RD: Shireen Abu Akleh

Article: Shireen Abu Akleh (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT, AlJazeera, AP, BBC, Reuters
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Possibly a blurb, but I'm not a regular here so I'll nominate it as RD and leave others to decide where/if it should air. RD is also preferable, since the updater may want to take this to WP:DYK instead? theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (she/they) 07:26, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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(Posted) RD: Bob Lanier

Article: Bob Lanier (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 04:51, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD/Blurb: Leonid Kravchuk

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Article: Leonid Kravchuk (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  First President of Ukraine, Leonid Kravchuk, (pictured) dies at the age of 88. (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post, NPR, The Guardian, Radio Free Europe, AP News, US News, France24, Reuters, Euro News, DW News, ABC News, Yahoo News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: First president of independent Ukraine, very significant death, should be posted when the article is ready. BastianMAT (talk) 19:48, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • support blurb if he was a regular run of the mill president of the us he would have been blurbed, and he was his country's first internationally recognized independent leader, so i support blurb DzhungarTroll (talk) 19:56, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    not necessarily, but the timing is interesting since its literally been a week since Stanislav Shushkevich passed, and we didn't blurb him (or even give him a RD), He was the last one of the 3 presidents who signed the Belovezh Accords still alive. (the 3rd one being Boris Yeltsin ofc.). He's definitely notable but the article needs to be updated to get rid of tags first. 4iamking (talk) 20:20, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb First president isn’t the same as a founder of a country. He’s definitely not what was Muhammad Ali Jinnah for Pakistan or Habib Bourgiba for Tunisia, and I don’t think that even Ukrainians consider him as such.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 21:22, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    He is not Jinnah or Bourgiba because of how Ukrainians perceive power (although Viacheslav Chornovil is close. saying it as Ukrainian). Kravchuk was instrumental in shaping the modern democratic Ukrainian state (including rejection of nuclear weapons and transfer of power after free elections). Support the blurb in principle, once the article has enough references. --Andrei (talk) 22:01, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    What he shaped has gone very long time ago, shortly after he lost to Kuchma in the 1994 election. I don’t underestimate his vision of a modern democratic country, but that’s something that literally never happened as Ukraine has been performing extremely low on the corruption and democracy rankings. So, if he wasn’t able to establish his ideals in practice, then he can’t be transformative enough to merit a blurb.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 23:01, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb in principle Article doesn't have enough sources as its subject has just died. That's to be expected. Will get on this now. Cheers! Fakescientist8000 22:12, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb But the article needs to get some ref work. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 22:19, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment – Not much prominently in the RS news. – Sca (talk) 22:20, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD once updated, Oppose Blurb In retrospect his accomplishments mirror Stanislav Shushkevich, who passed last week (Signing Belovezh Accords & overseeing Independence from the USSR, and giving in giving up the Nuclear arsenal.) It was pretty equovically argued last week that Sushkevich didnt merit a blurb because he was a leader for a short time between 1991-1994, and didnt do much as leader beyond overseeing independance and giving up nukes. I dont see a reason why the standard should be any different here.4iamking (talk) 22:35, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ignore the quality issues preventing the RD posting, Oppose blurb as the article fails to clearly establish what leadership or transformative role he had (such as a legacy section). I dunno if such a section can be made from what I read as this appears to be a rather mundane presidency. --Masem (t) 23:07, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD, Oppose Blurb for same reasons as Shushkevich, was leader for only a short time and didn’t do much besides oversee independence. The Kip (talk) 00:05, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb Just because he was president of Ukraine does not mean we should have a blurb. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:12, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    in fact the blurb is not being proposed "for being the president of Ukraine" but for being the first of the independent Ukraine and leading its independence...... _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 08:50, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb for exactly the same reasons as the former Belarusian leader last week i.e. not transformative enough person for it, in spite of being the first leader post-USSR. Also oppose RD for now, as article is orange-tagged. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:24, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Shivkumar Sharma

Article: Shivkumar Sharma (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian classical musician. Article needs some significant work before it can be ready for homepage / RD. Edits done. Reasonable biography. The discography seems sourced to the single link and seems alright, but, if someone spots any holes let me know. Thanks. Ktin (talk) 23:04, 10 May 2022 (UTC) Ktin (talk) 14:07, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Robert Gillmor

Article: Robert Gillmor (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2][3]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Significant artist, illustrator and ornithologist, with international impact Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:59, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2022 Sri Lankan Protests

Article: 2022 Sri Lankan protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Sri Lankan Prime Minister Mahinda Rajapaksa resigns amid protests, an economic crisis, and a state of emergency. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, DAWN, The News Al Jazeera, Guardian, AP
Credits:

 Cheers! Fakescientist8000 10:36, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) May 2022 Sri Lankan unrest

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Article: May 2022 Sri Lankan unrest (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Sri Lankan Prime Minister Mahinda Rajapaksa resigned amid unrest and economic crisis and declared a state of emergency. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, DAWN, The News Al Jazeera, Guardian
Credits:
 Ainty Painty (talk) 07:11, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Pulitzer Prizes

Article: 2022 Pulitzer Prize (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In U.S. journalism, the Pulitzer Prizes are awarded, with The Washington Post receiving the Public Service award for its coverage of the 2021 U.S. Capitol attack. (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times (with editorial firewall), AP, Poynter
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Based on the allocations at WP:ITNAWARDS, we can reasonably justify about one item for journalism awards per year, and the Pulitzers are unquestionably the most significant. The article has been fully updated, with only some minor copy editing (e.g. ensuring all notable names are wikilinked) remaining. Its structure is similar to other awards articles that are regularly posted without issue. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 23:39, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support per nominator. Just went through and added a bunch more Wikilinks. Funcrunch (talk) 00:24, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Can there be another paper mentioned besides the Washington Post? It would be nice to recognize smaller outfits. Thriley (talk) 02:17, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    The public service award is very widely regarded as the top prize, so I think it's the one we're obligated to go with. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 02:51, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment It looks like there are non-journalism categories, which have no accompanying text. The amount of quotes clashes with WP:NOFULLTEXT. See the discussions from 2021 and 2020. Joofjoof (talk) 04:00, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    The descriptions accompanying each award are short enough to be acceptable, in my view, but that's something to take up on the article talk, a future GAN, or more generally WT:Awards, given that it's squarely within the norm of the area. On 2020/2021, those foundered mainly because the articles weren't developed quickly enough before they became stale. For this year, I added a reception section and expanded lead off the bat, so that should not be an issue, more akin to 2014. This may not be an FA but it's very much complete enough to be ready and useful for readers coming from ITN. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 06:02, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Midge Decter

Article: Midge Decter (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times; The Washington Post; Associated Press
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 19:36, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Qin Yi

Article: Qin Yi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Independent
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Centenarian, "most beautiful Chinese actress", a great mother to her son with mental health problems - this article was in good shape when I looked. Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:54, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: John H. Coates

Article: John H. Coates (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Emmanuel College University of Cambridge
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Steelkamp (talk) 05:51, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Amarakeerthi Athukorala

Article: Amarakeerthi Athukorala (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Sri Lankan MP from the ruling party, who shot two people during the protests and was later found dead in a nearby building. Tube·of·Light 04:18, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Adreian Payne

Article: Adreian Payne (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Detroit Free Press
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 03:15, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2022 Philippine presidential election

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Article: 2022 Philippine presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Bongbong Marcos (pictured) is elected President of the Philippines alongside his vice-presidential running mate, Sara Duterte. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Bongbong Marcos and Sara Duterte (pictured) are elected president and vice president of the Philippines respectively.
Alternative blurb II: Bongbong Marcos (pictured) and his running-mate Sara Duterte are elected president and vice president of the Philippines respectively.
News source(s): Rappler, AP, Reuters
Credits:
Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Results are now 90% in. Also, the president and vice-president are elected separately in the Philippines. 2600:1700:5890:69F0:95BD:4D37:3558:EDE5 (talk) 23:48, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

May 8

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(Closed) 2022 British Academy Television Awards

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Article: 2022 British Academy Television Awards (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At the 2022 British Academy Television Awards, In My Skin wins Best Drama and Motherland wins Best Scripted Comedy. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: Needs some prose, in line with other postings of these awards. Kingsif (talk) 19:27, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Could perhaps be convinced otherwise, but as it stands only the Emmys are considered ITN/R as a TV award. The Kip (talk) 05:57, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality only It's not ITN/R, however we did post it last year (discussion). Oppose at moment though, as there's no prose on the ceremony and it's undersourced. Black Kite (talk) 09:13, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose BATA are not listed in the Wikipedia:In the news/Recurring items — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haris920 (talkcontribs) 09:37, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Not enough prose or sources. I'm also not convinced these awards are notable or internationally-relevant enough to be included in ITN. AusLondonder (talk) 10:04, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose – Not widely covered. – Sca (talk) 12:23, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm seeing plenty of coverage on the US side of the pond of these from the expected places (Variety, Hollywood Reporters, etc.) --Masem (t) 12:30, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality Would full support if the article was improved. --Jayron32 12:39, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Any oppose just because it is not ITN/R will, as always, be simply ignored. Recurring events that are not listed there are judged on their own merits (or how do you expect they would ever get posted enough to be listed at ITN/R). This was posted last year after there was a prose update. for Americans that don't know BATAs have comparable international considerations, renown, and history as the Emmys, though I didn't think I would actually need to explain it since it gets international and even some American media (as averse as it is to show things that would defy American exceptionalism) attention. As has been explained in previous years, posting the Emmys does not prevent posting the TV BAFTAs; we do post the Oscars and Film BAFTAs. Kingsif (talk) 15:05, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not American and I oppose posting this. The issue of what has been designated at some time as ITN/R is irrelevant (personally I would support a large cull of ITN/R). I have seen relatively little coverage outside the UK and the article is still not suitable for inclusion quality-wise. AusLondonder (talk) 16:03, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I mean, your !oppose wasn't just "isn't ITN/R", or "seems unimportant", so? Though another comment could be that if you are saying an international award show isn't significant, maybe give some thoughts on why. Kingsif (talk) 23:11, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In what way is this an "international" awards show? Because they have an international programme award? AusLondonder (talk) 00:38, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Kingsif: In fairness to AusLondonder, neither of their comments !opposed this because it "isn't ITN/R" at all. Effy Midwinter (talk) 18:50, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
So why they felt the need to reply to a comment not directed at them... Kingsif (talk) 19:03, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Agreed that any oppose !votes on the basis of not being ITN/R should be summarily ignored by a posting admin given that the BAFTAs were posted last year. A local consensus exists to post this item as long as this meets quality standards, which admittedly based on past experience, can be a high bar for award show articles to meet.--WaltCip-(talk) 16:22, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality, however agreeing with WaltCip and Kingsif in that any oppose !votes on the basis of not being ITN/R should be ignored by the posting admin. Article does need work, though. Ping me when everything's been fixed. Cheers. WimePocy 18:18, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Article has been updated in line with other instances of the event (including last year's, which was posted). Since they asked, pinging WimePocy. Kingsif (talk) 00:30, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose While awarded by the BAFTA (British Academy of Film and Television Arts), they are not as notable as their film awards nor has their noteworthiness been demonstrated in the articles herein. Gotitbro (talk) 07:42, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't know how one set of awards from a body is less notable within its field than another set of awards from the same, but both are considered in the majors in their fields, and to me the meaning of "not as notable" at your link is referring to television being less glamorous than film in general. Kingsif (talk) 18:10, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Mahendra Raj

Article: Mahendra Raj (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Indian Express
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian engineer and structural designer. I will continue to work on the article for a bit. Edits done. Reasonable C-class biography, though Rater.js says B-class. Ktin (talk) 18:31, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Dennis Waterman

Article: Dennis Waterman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: British actor who often wrote the theme tune and sung the theme tune to many of the programmes he appeared in  The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 15:31, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New Chief Executive of Hong Kong

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Article: 2022 Hong Kong Chief Executive election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Hong Kong, John Lee (pictured) is elected as Chief Executive (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Hong Kong, John Lee (pictured) is appointed as Chief Executive by the Election Committee organised by the Chinese authorities.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In Hong Kong, John Lee (pictured) is confirmed as Chief Executive by the Election Committee in an uncontested election
News source(s): AP
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Just like in Northern Ireland, elections in non-sovereign jurisdictions should be judged on their own merits, and this election made the 15-minute news bulletin today on the BBC. Hong Kong has been in the international news for years now, and the police and security background of the strongly pro-Beijing new Chief Executive is making the news now. Unknown Temptation (talk) 12:34, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose as since not ITNR and we have this "Lee was the only candidate and won with over 99% of the vote in which nearly all 1,500 committee members were carefully vetted by the central government in Beijing." I dont think we really can call this an election. --Masem (t) 12:59, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose – Per Masem. Not significant. – Sca (talk) 13:14, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support Results section needs prose. And if we are willing to include subnational elections, we must believe it. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 13:39, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support pending update needs a results paragraph otherwise it's fine. Hong Kongs special status has been a focus of attention for decades and this election is a significant part of that saga. While some individuals like to pick and choose which elections are deemed "legitimate" that's outside the scope of ITN. Is it in the news and is there a quality update? If yes to both then up it goes. --LaserLegs (talk) 13:57, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Support going off of my own consensus, like the Turkmeni election earlier this year and the Northern Ireland election just yesterday. Article needs prose updates, however. HK's autonomy has been a growing issue for quite some time now, much like Northern Ireland, and even though this isn't a totally free and fair election, it still is the changing hands of a government. Cheers! Fakescientist8000 14:47, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose A rubber stamp election with only 1 candidate is not really significant compared with the recent one in NI. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 15:40, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support we posted Northern Ireland even though it was subnational because it had "worldwide coverage" and are not posting Hong Kong? That's got double standards written all over it, sorry. Banedon (talk) 16:05, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    NI was an actual election, this was effectively a formality. The Kip (talk) 18:51, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    its still an election, even if the electorate is pretty restrictively defined. 4iamking (talk) 00:18, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Per 4iamking, and if you really believe this was a formality then I suggest changing the article's title to something else. Banedon (talk) 02:36, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Posting one sub-national election ≠ automatically posting all others. Regardless of that fact, this event can hardly be classified as an election (perhaps a coronation?). According to the first sentence of our Election article "An election is a formal group decision-making process by which a population chooses an individual or multiple individuals to hold public office." I think the bit about population choice has been missed in this "election". AusLondonder (talk) 16:27, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose wording Not an election in any sense of the word (other than PR/propaganda purposes). Abcmaxx (talk) 16:33, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • That was indeed an election. Just involving a closed, inner circle, making a decision that impacts on the community outside the circle. A very limited democracy. Just look at the news as one about a change in leadership. --PFHLai (talk) 19:19, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, and if the opposers have any validity to their argument they'll nominate a move at the article talk page where it'll die a quick death because they're wrong. --LaserLegs (talk) 20:42, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The reason the Northern Ireland one was posted was not because it was just an election, but because it was an unusual result in a sub-national election (the first time Sinn Féin took majority control). There is nothing of significance of the result of this election here. --Masem (t) 21:29, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I don't care HK vs NI I just care about claiming it wasn't an election. If that's your beef, get the article moved. --LaserLegs (talk) 23:18, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Please refrain from forum shopping. We are capable of evaluating the legitimacy of the election here. Editors contributing to a move discussion would have no greater skill or credibility in addressing the question. GreatCaesarsGhost 00:55, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Why are you conflating democratic institutions with the "West" and by extension non-democratic institutions with the "east"? India is the largest democracy in the world and would rarely be described as part of the West. AusLondonder (talk) 14:37, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The Democracy Index classifies India as a flawed democracy, alongside the United States and much of Europe. AusLondonder (talk) 15:58, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If you were asking me, I just meant this particular communist Chinese committee is less Westernized than the Parliament of Montenegro; India and the United States are indeed relatively complicated. InedibleHulk (talk) 08:03, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support with appropriate clarification of the circumstances of the rubber stamp per alt or similar. Coups and fake civilian governments have been posted, this is similar Bumbubookworm (talk) 05:13, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Alt The Election Commission, described as an electoral college, should reasonably be expected to elect people, not appoint them. I get how this may not seem free and fair, relative to a race with two candidates, but that's life in China. No opinion on the original blurb. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:15, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support alt2 While alt1 is perhaps excessively biased and makes assumptions on the organization of the election, we should also recognize that the 1. Lee was unopposed, and the vote was simply yes-no, and 2. the election was by a small body, rather than by members of the public, and 3. nomination of candidates was by the same body, and he had already received more than half of nominations. This entire process seems much more along the lines of, say, nomination and confirmation in the US Supreme Court. Sources such as my local Globe and Mail come to a similar conclusion. I have offered another alternate blurb which makes these two points clear in a more neutral and factual tone. Mdu02 (talk) 08:24, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support ALT2 as it explains that this was an uncontested election- which is one of the main focuses of news coverage on this "election" event. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:18, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, Per above, this does not look like an election. Alex-h (talk) 16:07, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support ALT2 it is an election, even though it is uncontested. – robertsky (talk) 18:38, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Not an election. This is more of an administrative appointment. Nfitz (talk) 06:49, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Nfitz: Don't turn this into your personal soapbox against Northern Ireland. Please strike your grossly inappropriate comment.--WaltCip-(talk) 15:28, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      • Also, Hong Kong had a change of head of state, which is ITNR anyway. Whether it's a proper election or not in HK, it should be posted, as it's an ITNR event. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:33, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
        • HK is not a sovereign nation, and thus does not qualify for that ITNR, just as the case with Northern Ireland. --Masem (t) 15:54, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
          • @WaltCip:Some users had tried to point out that this should be treated the same as the recent Northern Ireland. I was trying to explain the why it's very different. Against? I don't see any indication that I have revealed my position on Northern Ireland at all, while using encylopaedic language. User:Joseph2302, Hong Kong is a region of China; it's not a state - which is a bigger issue than how the CE was chosen; but does impact the wording; I should have stressed that. NI is the exception, not the rule; I certainly don't advocate that every NI election is notable. Nfitz (talk) 16:03, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Marked attention results section has a prose update --LaserLegs (talk) 21:18, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment – Since posts here are running 11-8 against at this pt., the Needs attention tag doesn't seem appropriate. Removed.
    Sca (talk) 22:31, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Your supervote is most appreciated, thanks Sca. I'm sure an uninvolved admin could have determined if the invalid WP:IDONTLIKEIT opposes had merit and made a determination but your childishly simplistic WP:VOTE count is probably better. Maybe you should just close the nomination entirely. Keep up the good work buddy, you're really helping the project out here. --LaserLegs (talk) 00:27, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Amen to that. There are a few opposes on the count of relevance or Hong Kong being a subnational unit (irrelevant, as if it was ITN/R would make it automatic with a sourced article), but most oppose votes are about the wording of the original and first blurb. Mdu02 (talk) 05:13, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I really fail to see how consensus exists to post this. Sarcastic personal attacks on other good-faith editors is not going to convince anyone otherwise. AusLondonder (talk) 05:34, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The voice of reason -- as opposed to puerile blather. TNX. -- Sca (talk) 13:36, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Given that it's been a few days, I don't think this will get posted because of inactivity, and to be fair the event is somewhat borderline on notability without some editorializing. That being said, I don't think the original commenter should have simply looked at the vote and unilaterally made such a decision. I won't say it's in bad faith but it's irresponsible. About half the oppose votes are arguments about wording rather than about notability, and on a more notable event such a vote count could still easily lead to consensus achieved. Mdu02 (talk) 07:53, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

May 7

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RD: Mickey Gilley

Article: Mickey Gilley (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Country singer that defined the "urban cowboy" style. Few CNs that need to be filled out Masem (t) 02:05, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Kang Soo-yeon

Article: Kang Soo-yeon (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Korea Herald
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Needs some work. One of Korea's most famous movie actors, even internationally, and an unexpected death. Kingsif (talk) 00:47, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2022 Kentucky Derby

Article: 2022 Kentucky Derby (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In horse racing, Rich Strike wins the Kentucky Derby. (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 23:05, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Benjamin Rich arrested near Site 112 at the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Article: Benjamin Rich (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Benjamin Rich arrested near Site 112 at the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Zerkalo
Credits:

Article updated
 Count Iblis (talk) 21:39, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) 2022 Northern Ireland Assembly election

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Article: 2022 Northern Ireland Assembly election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Sinn Féin, led by Michelle O'Neill (pictured) wins the most seats in the 2022 Northern Ireland Assembly election. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, The Guardian, CBC, CNN, The New York Times, Al Jazeera
Credits:
Article updated

Nominator's comments: Major shakeup in Northern Ireland, Sinn Fein has never won the most seats. I have to admit that the deputy first minister position is equal to the first minister position regardless. But Sinn Fein coming out on top is unprecedented in the area's history and has been covered widely as such. Additionally, it is the first nationalist party to win the most seats in Northern Ireland's 101 year history, all of this adds to something quite remarkable. There are a ton of updaters, so I apologize if I haven't included you. Props to them for a wonderful article! Ornithoptera (talk) 19:53, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Post-posting support Are we really choosing to overlook the significance of this given the last hundred years of political history in Northern Ireland? WaltCip-(talk) 23:15, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note Sinn Féin got the very same number of seats in every constituency as in the previous election. Their success looks "historic" only because DUP lost votes and seats to other parties (Alliance, which got also some SDLP seats). Pavlor (talk) 05:17, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Post-posting support due to the significance of a separatist party winning a subnational election for the first time. Would agree that adding "for the first time" to the blurb would make sense. NorthernFalcon (talk) 01:51, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Post-posting support Under generally the same premises as above. DarkSide830 (talk) 03:42, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I think the blurb should mention that this is the first time a nationalist party has won the majority of votes just so people know why we posted a subnational election.  Hamza Ali Shah  Talk 08:44, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    A majority of votes (or seats or anything) can't be fewer than half; this is "plurality". InedibleHulk (talk) 08:54, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Post-posting support as the first time that Sinn Féin have won the most seats in NI, it's a significant moment that's widely covered, and thus ITN worthy. Much more so than the ITNR elections we post for micronations, or sham elections like Hong Kong. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:47, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Post-posting support Article is in good enough quality, topic is being covered at a high-level by reliable news sources. Checks every necessary box. --Jayron32 12:41, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per Joseph, and the fact that it's the first occasion on which a nationalist party has led the government that was specifically created to prevent this event from ever happening :D SN54129 12:57, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Post-posting support, but oppose of current blurb: We don't ordinarily post subnational results, but have in this case because of the significance of a nationalist party becoming the largest in the Assembly for the first time in Northern Ireland's history. However, there's no mention of this being the case in the blurb and therefore the event's importance. For that reason, the blurb should be reworded to include it. --Inops (talk) 11:05, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

May 6

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  • 2022 Madrid explosion
    • Two people are killed and eighteen others are injured when an explosion occurs in a residential building in Madrid, Spain. (AP)
  • Hotel Saratoga explosion
    • At least 26 people are killed and at least 74 others are injured by an explosion caused by a suspected gas leak at the Hotel Saratoga in Havana, Cuba. (AP)
  • Two people die and over 100 more are rescued as a boat carrying migrants runs aground in southern Italy. (AP)

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(Posted) RD: Bill Laskey (American football)

Article: Bill Laskey (American football) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Monroe News; Las Vegas Raiders; NBC Sports
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 01:24, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: George Pérez

Article: George Pérez (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Acclaimed comic artist for DC. Needs a good bit of sourcing work. Masem (t) 18:00, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DC and Marvel. Support. DS (talk) 01:00, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The entire Bibliography needs sources, though if there is one overall source that captures all that, that would work. --Masem (t) 12:28, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hotel Saratoga explosion

Article: Hotel Saratoga explosion (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 30 people are killed and more than 84 injured by a gas leak explosion at the Hotel Saratoga in Havana, Cuba. (Post)
News source(s): WSJ, AP, BBC, Guardian, USA Today
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Article may need a bit more length to it. Masem (t) 04:21, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

May 5

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  • COVID-19 pandemic
    • WHO puts estimate of deaths due to COVID-19, including incidentals due to impacted health systems, at approximately 15 million worldwide. (CBC)

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(Posted) RD: Mike Hagerty

Article: Mike Hagerty (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Chicago Sun-Times; Variety
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 07:22, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Axel Leijonhufvud

Article: Axel Leijonhufvud (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Institute for New Economic Thinking
Credits:

Article needs updating
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Nominator's comments: Swedish economist. Article requires some heavy lifting. I will give it a shot. Edits done. Meets hygiene expectations for homepage / RD. Would love to write a separate article on Life Among the Econ. Truly fascinating. Ktin (talk) 03:43, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Kenneth Welsh

Article: Kenneth Welsh (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Kenneth Welsh, Twin Peaks and Star Trek Actor, Dies at 80
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Prolific character actor. Often confused with other actors. Not many sources available yet, but more should appear - he was in quite many popular films and co-starred with many A-listers. Kirill C1 (talk) 15:58, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Kevin Samuels

Article: Kevin Samuels (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NBC News; Yahoo News; The Hill
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Acekard (talk) 14:21, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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(Posted) RD: George D. Gould

Article: George D. Gould (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): WSJ Bloomberg
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American financier. Death announced on this date. Article has shaped up to a reasonable C-class biography. Ready for a pair of eyes. Ktin (talk) 00:14, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Jack Morris (American football)

Article: Jack Morris (American football) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Register-Guard (Eugene); Mail Tribune (Medford)
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: First reported today (May 4); died on April 27. —Bloom6132 (talk) 22:18, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • This wikibio looks READY for RD to me. Long enough with 400+ words. No issues with formatting and footnotes. Two minor issues that should not hold back this RD nom: [1] What position(s) did he play? Scoring points, conversions and rushing gave the impression that he was an offensive player in college. He switched to DB as a pro? [2] A little more info on his post-football life would improve the coverage in this wikibio. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 12:15, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted Stephen 23:58, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Kenny Moore

Article: Kenny Moore (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Oregonian; Sports Illustrated; Runner's World
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 11:15, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Stanislav Shushkevich

Article: Stanislav Shushkevich (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: First Post-Soviet Leader of Belarus. 4iamking (talk) 11:09, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Let me remind you that this is also one of the three leaders of states that signed an agreement on the collapse of the USSR (+ Boris Yeltsin and Leonid Kravchuk). And don't forget his connection to Lee Harvey Oswald. This is a historical figure. Mrs. Alena (talk) 14:42, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb just because he's a white European leader, that doesn't entitle him to a blurb. He's no more noteworthy than the African ex-leaders that never get consensus for a blurb (and yes, I know his impact on the dissolution of the USSR). Also, orange tag needs fixing, otherwise nothing will get posted anyway. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:47, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb Every biography on Wikipedia is a historical figure. Bar needs to be set higher than just "any head of state/government" for death blurbs. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:56, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD oppose blurb - per above CR-1-AB (talk) 17:20, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD, oppose blurb Not transformative or notable enough to merit a blurb. Was leader for scarcely 3.5 years and didn't do particularly much besides oversee independence. The Kip (talk) 18:35, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • RD only – Per previous. – Sca (talk) 19:17, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Article needs ref work. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 19:19, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose RD at the moment. As there are literally no supports for a blurb, I think we can table that discussion. GreatCaesarsGhost 23:47, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality. Major sourcing issues that no one who voted support seems interested in fixing. --Jayron32 12:25, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    should be good now. 4iamking (talk) 11:28, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Absolutely not. Someone just removed the "refimprove" tag, but didn't actually provide any references. The "political activity" section contains lots of information for which there is no clear source. There had been a refimprove tag on that section. Someone removed it without fixing the problem. Problems don't go away like that. I returned the tag, because the actual problem had not been fixed. Someone still actually have to find the sources and provide citations to fix the problem. Please do so. Or not, you don't have to. But if you (or someone else) doesn't, this isn't being posted on the main page. --Jayron32 11:44, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb and RD While the person in question are significant enough, references within the article needs a lot of work to do. There are some sections within the article that doesn't have any citations yet. MarioJump83! 23:12, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Impactful in the dissolution itself, but was not able to hold power much longer after that, the significance for a blurb is thus not clearly shown. Gotitbro (talk) 08:09, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Too much unreferenced materials. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 12:13, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  1. ^ Eoin McSweeney (2023-05-13). "'IDF apologizes for death of Al Jazeera's Shireen Abu Akleh'". CNN. Retrieved 2024-05-11.
  2. ^ Avery, Mark. "Robert Gillmor – 1936 – 2022". Retrieved 10 May 2022.
  3. ^ "Robert Gillmor MBE 1936-2022". The Society of Wildlife Artists. Retrieved 10 May 2022.