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January 22

Portal:Current events/2019 January 22

January 22, 2019 (2019-01-22) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israeli–Palestinian conflict A Hamas militant is killed and two others are injured when an Israeli tank fires into the Gaza Strip after a protest turned violent. The Israel Defense Forces action is retaliation for a shooting which lightly injured an officer, and for the brief incursion of two Palestinians into Israel. (Reuters) 2019 Venezuelan protests A 16-year-old boy is shot and killed at around midnight on Tuesday evening/Wednesday morning during protests in the Venezuelan capital Caracas. Three others are killed in overnight protests in Estado Bolívar. (The Washington Post), (Business Standard) Arts and culture The nominees for the 91st Academy Awards, honoring the best in cinema in 2018 are announced, with Roma and The Favourite leading with 10 nominations each. (The New York Times) Disasters and accidents 2019 Piper PA-46 Malibu disappearance In the Channel Islands, a multinational search and rescue operation for a missing aircraft carrying Cardiff City F.C. footballer Emiliano Sala resumes, after fading light and deteriorating weather conditions caused the search to be called off the previous day. (BBC News) A bus catches fire after crashing with a truck in Lasbela, Pakistan, killing 27 people and injuring others. (Dawn) Five foreign demining experts, identified as two South Africans, one Croatian, one Bosnian and one Kosovar, are killed in an accidental explosion in Yemen. (BBC News) A Tupolev Tu-22M3 supersonic strike bomber crashes in Russia's northwestern Murmansk region while attempting landing during a storm. Three of its four crewmen are killed. (Reuters) International relations Kuril Islands dispute, Japan–Russia relations Japanese Prime Minister Shinzō Abe and Russian President Vladimir Putin meet in Moscow to discuss a peace treaty and the Kuril Islands dispute. (TASS) (Al Jazeera) An Israeli spokesman says Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has cancelled Wednesday's Qatari aid of $15 million to Gaza Strip. (Reuters) Law and crime American singer Chris Brown and two associates are briefly detained in Paris after being accused of aggravated rape and drug offenses. (NBC News) Transgender personnel in the United States military The U.S. Supreme Court allows, by a 5–4 vote, the Trump administration to begin implementing the policy that prohibits transgender persons who require or have undergone gender transition from serving. Unresolved challenges remain in lower courts. (BBC News) Politics and elections 2018 North Carolina's 9th congressional district election North Carolina Superior Court judge Paul Ridgeway rejects the bid to certify Republican Mark Harris as the winner of the country's last undecided congressional race until there's a final decision in the investigation into possible illegal tactics. (Reuters) (WSOC-TV) Sports 2019 Baseball Hall of Fame balloting The National Baseball Hall of Fame announces the results of voting by the Baseball Writers' Association of America (BBWAA) to determine players to be formally inducted in July 2019. Roy Halladay, Edgar Martínez, Mike Mussina, and Mariano Rivera are elected and will join Harold Baines and Lee Smith, elected by a Hall committee in December 2018, at the induction ceremonies in Cooperstown, New York. Rivera is the first player ever to be elected unanimously by the BBWAA. (ESPN)

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RD: Andrew Fairlie (chef)

Article: Andrew Fairlie (chef) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Scottish chef. Article a bit short, will try to expand a little - Dumelow (talk) 13:42, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

RD: Ahmed Imtiaz Bulbul

Article: Ahmed Imtiaz Bulbul (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): daily star
Credits:

• Nominated by DannyS712 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Tanvir Rana Rabbi (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 DannyS712 (talk) 09:05, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

• This article is extremely short, I would like to see it expanded first. --Tone 09:25, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose poorly referenced proto-stub. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:26, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

January 21

Portal:Current events/2019 January 21

January 21, 2019 (2019-01-21) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Maidan Shar attack A Taliban attack on a National Directorate of Security compound in the central Maidan Wardak Province, kills 126 security personnel, according to local officials. (The Guardian) Dissident Irish Republican campaign In two incidents in Derry, a truck is hijacked and abandoned in the city center, and a Royal Mail van is hijacked at gunpoint and later abandoned. Authorities blame the New IRA. (Belfast Telegraph) Syrian Civil War A suicide car bomb attack kills five members of the Syrian Democratic Forces while they were out on a patrol with U.S. troops in northeastern Syria. (Telegraph) The Israeli military says it had attacked Iranian military targets in Damascus including the city's international airport in response to a missile attack. (CNN) Crisis in Venezuela A mutiny by members of the Venezuelan National Guard who oppose the government is quashed. The Venezuelan Military in a statement says they were involved in "treasonous" acts motivated by "obscure interests tied to the far right." (Time) Business and economy Germany revokes the license of Iranian airline Mahan Air, citing the airline's involvement in Syria and other security concerns. (Reuters) The Israel Airports Authority formally opens Ramon Airport in the Timna Valley near Eilat. The new international airport replaces Eilat Airport, which will cease operations on January 22. (Channel NewsAsia) Disasters and accidents 2019 Piper PA-46 Malibu disappearance A Piper Malibu light aircraft, carrying two people on a flight from Nantes to Cardiff, goes missing off the coast of Alderney in the Channel Islands. A major search and rescue operation is underway. Cardiff City F.C. footballer Emiliano Sala is confirmed to have been on board the missing aircraft. (BBC News), (Sky) At least 11 crew members are killed after two ships caught fire, as one vessel was transferring fuel to the other, in the Kerch Strait near Crimea. (BNO) (BBC News) Two men are killed in separate avalanches at U.S. ski resorts, one near Aspen, Colorado, and another in Kachina Peak at Taos Ski Valley, approximately 125 miles (201 km) northeast of Albuquerque, New Mexico. (NBC News) Law and crime LGBT rights in Egypt Egyptian TV presenter Mohamed al-Ghiety is sentenced to one year of hard labor and fined 3,000 Egyptian pounds ($167; £130) for "promoting homosexuality" by interviewing a gay man on the privately-owned LTC Egypt TV channel last year. (BBC News) Politics and elections 2020 United States presidential election, 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries Democratic U.S. Senator Kamala Harris from California announces she will run for President in 2020. (NPR) Howard Schultz, former CEO of Starbucks, is reported to be exploring an independent candidacy for President of the United States in 2020. (CNN) Brexit The Labour Party proposes an amendment to the Brexit deal which would require a second referendum before the United Kingdom fully exits the European Union. (The Guardian) Science and technology Lulu and Nana controversy China confirms the 2018 birth of the world's first genetically edited babies, Lulu and Nana, saying He Jiankui forged ethical review papers and organised a project team with foreign staff, which intentionally avoided surveillance, and that He and his staff will be punished according to laws and regulations. The Guangdong government will keep the twins under medical observation with the support of the national departments. (South China Morning Post) January 2019 lunar eclipse A total lunar eclipse occurs, popularly dubbed a Super Blood Wolf Moon, due to the timing and orbital perigee, and a meteor impact is observed during the event. (Space.com)

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RD: Harris Wofford

Article: Harris Wofford (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:

• Nominated by Kingsif (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: very influential politician of the 20th century Kingsif (talk) 11:33, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Emiliano Sala & 2019 Piper PA-46 Malibu disappearance

Articles: 2019 Piper PA-46 Malibu disappearance (talk · history · tag) and Emiliano Sala (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Emiliano Sala (pictured) is feared dead when a Piper PA-46 Malibu aircraft is reported missing off Alderney, Channel Islands. (Post)
News source(s): (Sky News)
Credits:

• Nominated by Mjroots (talk · give credit)

 Mjroots (talk) 11:27, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

• I need some more information; is this the equivalent of Tom Brady or Derek Jeter being on board a plane that went missing? 331dot (talk) 13:33, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
  • @331dot: - insofar as he is a professional sportsman playing in the top tier of his sport, and a wikinotable person not notable only for the event in question, yes. Mjroots (talk) 14:21, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
    • My question is more specific, are they in the top tier of the top tier? While every death merits an RD listing, I'm not sure every death of someone in any top tier professional league merits a blurb simply because they are in a top tier professional league. Are they a star player? 331dot (talk) 14:30, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
      • No, very much not, he just signed for Cardiff City, that should explain it all really. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:43, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
        • I'm so glad that I don't follow football or support a team, because I can look at this with totally unbiased eyes. AIUI, FC Nantes, the team which Sala was signed from by Cardiff City, are in the top league in French football. Cardiff City are in the top league in English football. That is all we need to consider here, not whether one team is better than another, nor that one player is better than another. That he is of a standard to play in the top tier is sufficient. Mjroots (talk) 14:55, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Comment If you oppose a blurb, but support a RD listing for Sala, please state "RD Only". Mjroots (talk) 14:58, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

He wouldn't merit an RD listing unless the plane/he is found, or he is legally declared dead. 331dot (talk) 15:00, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

• RD Only - if it's confirmed that he's dead - Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha was evidently more notable in business and sports administration than Sala is in playing sport and was RD only. 89.243.227.163 (talk) 15:01, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

RD: Henri, Count of Paris

Article: Henri, Count of Paris (1933-2019) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): paris match
Credits:

• Nominated by DannyS712 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: needs a bit of work on refs DannyS712 (talk) 19:52, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose The article quality is a non-starter at the moment. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 20:40, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• As mentioned, lots of work needed with references. Also, if the article is fixed in time, it should probably be piped as Henri d'Orléans. --Tone 20:45, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose far too much unreferenced material for a BLP. Should probably be razed to a stub. The Rambling Man (talk) 23:06, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose "A bit of work" is an understatement. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 00:57, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support Substantial edits and improvements in RS has now been done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FactStraight (talk • contribs)

(Posted) RD: Shivakumara Swami

Article: Shivakumara Swami (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hindu
Credits:

• Nominated by DBigXray (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Subject was an Indian spiritual leader, humanitarian and educationist. had received Padma Bhushan, the third-highest civilian award in India DBigXrayᗙ 13:08, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose several claims unreferenced. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:12, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

The Rambling Man, thanks for your feedback. I have done major work in improving the references since you voted. Please reconsider the !vote. --DBigXrayᗙ 14:30, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

• Looks almost fine, just "He studied English in college and is proficient in Kannada and Sanskrit." needs a reference and to be changed to past tense. --Tone 14:33, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

 Done, Tone thanks for the feedback. --DBigXrayᗙ 14:47, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

 Posted --Tone 14:54, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Maidan Shar attack

Article: Maidan Shar attack (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Taliban killed over 100 Afghan National Security Forces members in a military compound in Maidan Shar. (Post)
News source(s): AP, BBC,Guardian, NYT
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Capitals00 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by 11S117 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Clearly deadliest attack of this year for now. Capitals00 (talk) 17:44, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

• Strong support on importance but oppose on quality: Article is stub-like and doesn’t have any subsections. 2.51.18.134 (talk) 19:11, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• Wait – For details. Initial article is a stub. (Four sources added.) Sca (talk) 19:13, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• Wait Strong support on notability, but the article is four sentences long at this time. I'll gladly strike out this !vote and replace it with a support once there's more information. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ ✨ 20:12, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose. The article is a stub and there is little coverage. Compare this BBC report with this one. The article can be expanded after there's hopefully more coverage and we can post the death toll when it becomes somewhat less disputed, and hopefully as small as possible. wumbolo ^^^ 22:15, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Some sources say 20, others "dozens." Developing. Sca (talk) 22:48, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Earliest reports said 20 but now everyone estimates it over 126. Capitals00 (talk) 06:26, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

• I have expanded the article further. Capitals00 (talk) 06:26, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support [1]— Bukhari (Talk!) 11:53, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

January 20

Portal:Current events/2019 January 20

January 20, 2019 (2019-01-20) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Northern Mali conflict At least ten United Nations peacekeepers are killed and several others injured in an Islamist militant attack on their base in Mali's northern Kidal Region. (Al Jazeera) Disasters and accidents Two people died and 25 more were injured, four seriously, in a fire at the ski resort of Courchevel in the French Alps. (RTE) International relations Chad–Israel relations Chad and Israel restore diplomatic relations with each other after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu meets with Chadian President Idriss Déby in N'Djamena. Chad severed ties with Israel in 1972. (i24 News) Sports 2018–19 NFL playoffs In American football, the Los Angeles Rams defeat the New Orleans Saints in the NFC Championship Game, 26-23, to advance to Super Bowl LIII and play the New England Patriots, who defeated the Kansas City Chiefs in the AFC Championship Game. The NFC Championship game is best known for an unpenalized pass interference committed by cornerback Nickell Robey-Coleman on wide receiver Tommylee Lewis, which is nicknamed as the NOLA No-Call. (CBS Sports) (CNN)

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(Posted) Al-Queda attack on Chadian UN peacekeepers in Mali

Article: United Nations Multidimensional Integrated Stabilization Mission in Mali (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ 10 UN peacekeepers are killed in an attack by al-Qaeda in Mali (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Ten UN peacekeepers are killed in an attack by al-Qaeda in Mali
Alternative blurb II: ​ Ten Chadian peacekeepers for the United Nations are killed in an attack by al-Qaeda in Mali in retaliation for the normalisation of diplomatic relations between Chad and Israel.
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: The attack is allegedly a response to the resumption of diplomatic ties between Chad and Israel that I nominated below. The two items could potentially be merged Dumelow (talk) 08:45, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

• Weak support important news but the target is a bit... listy. What's there is okay though. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:46, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• Weak support - Agree with TRM. Ready for posting.BabbaQ (talk) 12:00, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• Comment – Article is thin, and it's larded with flag salad, which could be handled in a footnote. Sca (talk) 14:26, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• Weak support per above. The story is of course notable, and the article isn't in a bad shape (but only 1 lone paragraph about the nominated story at the end of the article is not a lot). Brendon the Wizard ✉️ ✨ 20:10, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support only if these noms are merged There is a clear cause and effect between the restoration of Chad–Israel relations and this attack. We should merge these two blurbs.

"Ten Chadian peacekeepers for the United Nations are killed in an attack by al-Qaeda in Mali in retaliation for the normalisation of diplomatic relations between Chad and Israel."--- Coffeeandcrumbs 20:26, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

•  Posted blurb proposed by Coffeeandcrumbs — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:23, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• HOLD ON HOLD ON there's not support for a merged blurb, and I don't see any references that show these are related. power~enwiki (π, ν) 21:32, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

  @Power~enwiki and MSGJ: pinging MSGJ re support for blurb. As for references, in this article it says Responsibility was claimed by Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb who stated that it was a retaliatory attack for the recent visit to Chad by Israeli president Benjamin Netanyahu and the subsequent normalisation of diplomatic relations. with refs one and two --DannyS712 (talk) 21:34, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

  OK, the blurb is still confusing and possibly SYNTH (by taking the statement at face value), I'll try to suggest a better one. power~enwiki (π, ν) 21:39, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

• Post-Posting Oppose I don't see any way to describe this without a full paragraph, probably because it's importance is largely based on the perpetrators saying it is important. If you consider this as an ongoing military conflict, it's not more disruptive than anything in the Syrian Civil War or the US airstrike in Somalia (and who knows about the Timeline of the war in Donbass (December 2018)). power~enwiki (π, ν) 21:56, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
  • What if we used claimed:

Ten Chadian United Nations peacekeepers are killed in what the al-Qaeda in Mali claims is retaliation for the normalisation of Chad–Israel relations. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 22:47, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

• • Nevermind, there is a better discussion at errors. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 00:42, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) Chad–Israel relations restored after 46 years

Article: Chad–Israel relations (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Chad and Israel restore diplomatic relations for the first time in more than 46 years (Post)
News source(s): BBC news
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Article is a bit slim but could be expanded quite easily if this is judged to be suitable for ITN Dumelow (talk) 08:30, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

• Weak support - clearly notable, but article is little more than a stub. I'll start working on it --DannyS712 (talk) 08:37, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose I'm failing to see the significance of this I'm afraid, and while it's sort of in the news, it's still not clear why it even should be making headlines? Educate me. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:48, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose It's not like Iran or Syria restoring relations with Israel, now that would be a story 89.243.227.163 (talk) 14:12, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Only just seen above story about the attack. Change to support as combined 89.243.227.163 (talk) 14:14, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose – This story doesn't add much to the awkwardly named United Nations Multidimensional Integrated Stabilization Mission in Mali story, which does mention this diplomatic move. Sca (talk) 14:23, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose Even In the two countries, this is nonevent to majority of the populace. Also, clearly not in the news. –Ammarpad (talk) 21:09, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• Has been  Posted as part of the blurb about the attack in Mali (posted by @MSGJ:) --DannyS712 (talk) 21:30, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

RD: Andrew G. Vajna

Article: Andrew G. Vajna (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Hollywood Reporter, Washington Post
Credits:

• Nominated by Sjones23 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Hungarian-American film producer. The article itself might need some work, especially in the lead and his early life. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:09, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose too much wrong with it right now. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:55, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose whole uncited paragraphs. Will take a lot of work. Black Kite (talk) 22:04, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose This article has been tagged. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 07:24, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

(Closed) 2019 Masters (snooker)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Articles: 2019 Masters (snooker) (talk · history · tag) and Judd Trump (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Judd Trump wins his first Masters championship, at the age of 29. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In snooker, Judd Trump wins the Masters, defeating Ronnie O'Sullivan in the final.
News source(s): "Judd Trump: Masters champion was 'sick of watching other players win'". BBC Sport. Retrieved 21 January 2019.
Credits:

• Nominated by Lee Vilenski (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: The second biggest snooker event, ITN already covers the World Snooker Championship, such as in 2018 Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:12, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose. Much as I enjoy snooker, it is a relatively minor sport with limited international appeal. We already post the World Championship every year, per WP:ITNR. I don't see any reason why we should start posting a second-tier tournament as well. Modest Genius ^talk 14:55, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose on same reason I oppose the college football playoffs: it is a minor sport in the overall scope of who plays it in the world, we already cover the sport's top result in ITNR, and thus, unless something of unusual happened, we should not post other results. Users are free to try to include this in ITNR for the future. --Masem (t) 15:41, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose per Masem, yes, this is why we don't (usually) post lesser-tier events in other sports. Whilst the Masters is a top-tier tournament, it's not a ranking one, and only includes 16 players; there isn't really another tournament close to the World Championship. Black Kite (talk) 16:10, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose per Modest Genius. We did post when Mark Williams (snooker player) won the World Snooker Championship, and we can expect that we'll post whoever wins it this time, but this story isn't as significant. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ ✨ 20:32, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose For good reasons already given above. Suggest close. –Ammarpad (talk) 21:10, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• something something Trump power~enwiki (π, ν) 21:45, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

January 19

Portal:Current events/2019 January 19

January 19, 2019 (2019-01-19) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Dissident Irish Republican campaign A car bomb explodes outside a courthouse in Londonderry, Northern Ireland. The bomb exploded as the area was being evacuated, and there were no injuries. Investigations currently point responsibility for the attack towards the New IRA dissident organisation. (BBC News) Arts and culture American singer R. Kelly is dropped by RCA Records following the release of Surviving R. Kelly, a Lifetime documentary detailing alleged sexual assaults committed by him. (Variety) Disasters and accidents 2018–19 North American winter A state of emergency is declared in Pennsylvania and New Jersey as a large winter storm makes its way to the northeastern United States. Three people have already been killed due to it. (AccuWeather) (The Weather Channel) List of earthquakes in 2019 A magnitude 6.7 earthquake hits Coquimbo, Chile. Light damage is reported and thousands of homes lose power. (Devdiscourse) Law and crime 2019 Indigenous Peoples March Incident Covington Catholic High School faces backlash after a video of students were seen mocking a Native American elder at the Indigenous Peoples' March in Washington DC. (USA Today) (Cincinnati Enquirer) (WDRB) Politics and elections President of Burkina Faso Roch Marc Christian Kaboré announces in a televised statement that Prime Minister Paul Kaba Thieba and the cabinet have resigned from their positions effective immediately. No reason is given. (BBC News) 2018 Democratic Republic of the Congo general election The Constitutional Court of DR Congo rejects an appeal for a vote recount of the 30 December 2018 election by second-place candidate Martin Fayulu, upholding Félix Tshisekedi as the winner. (France24) Martin Fayulu claims to be the "legitimate president" and calls on the international community to not recognize the result. (Deutsche Welle)

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(Posted) RD: Henry Sy

Article: Henry Sy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT, Forbes
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Zanhe (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Richest man in the Philippines for the past 11 years. Article is now fully sourced. Zanhe (talk) 00:09, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

• Support Looks to be well referenced. Hrodvarsson (talk) 00:52, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support Good to go. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 03:02, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support looks fine, ready to go --DannyS712 (talk) 03:04, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 03:11, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Liang Jingkui

Article: Liang Jingkui (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Guangming Daily
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Zanhe (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Huangdan2060 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Zanhe (talk) 22:54, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

• Weak support not much beyond a stub, but satis. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:45, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support: good work creating this article from scratch so quickly Zanhe - Dumelow (talk) 08:14, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support Looks ok, even though very short. –Ammarpad (talk) 08:30, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support I just came here to nominate this myself, but I guess not --DannyS712 (talk) 08:38, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
•  Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:58, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Government of Burkina Faso resigns after series of terror attacks

Article: Burkina Faso government resignation, 2019 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Burkina Faso, Prime Minister Paul Kaba Thieba and all members of his cabinet resign from office after a series of terrorist attacks. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Burkina Faso's Prime Minister Paul Kaba Thieba and his cabinet resign from office, and President Roch Marc Christian Kaboré appoints Cristophe Joseph Marie Dabiré as the new Prime Minister.
News source(s): BBC Bloomberg AFP
Credits:

• Nominated by BrendonTheWizard (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: (rewriting my nom cmt now that an article exists) After sifting through all the sources I can find, the resignation of the president's entire government seems to be the culmination of many terrorist attacks (which are described in the article), some of which could probably be standalone ITN stories.
I'm still exploring a possible rename of the article & blurb because the attacks + the government dissolving are closely related. Please feel free to offer suggestions & help improve the article; it's still a developing story and it'll need some work.

• I'd suggest coming back when the article is ready, it is difficult to judge a nomination without any article at all. Thanks 331dot (talk) 20:30, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
  • You're right, I'll wait until maybe tomorrow. I'll leave this nomination here in case anyone wants to help me write this article (I've just now started it here), but I don't expect any !votes Brendon the Wizard ✉️ ✨ 20:36, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
    • I've since added a substantial amount of content to Burkina Faso government resignation, 2019, but I still feel like it could use a little more work. If any other editors think it's in decent shape, I'll put it in the nomination's template Brendon the Wizard ✉️ ✨ 21:32, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
      • Alright, now that a basic article exists, I've linked it and modified the blurb + nom comment. Some details are still shaky (I've found some conflicting numbers on how many people died in the recent attacks on the French Embassy and Army Headquarters) but any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ ✨ 00:17, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• Update - A new Prime Minister has been appointed (but the rest of the government is still vacant). Not sure if the blurb should be modified to account for this; tagging the nom as needing attention. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ ✨ 19:57, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

  It doesn't need attention until there is consensus to post this. I would support but we need some more input. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:15, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

  Would it be appropriate to tag the nomination as (Ready), or would that also imply that a consensus has been reached? Brendon the Wizard ✉️ ✨ 04:36, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

• Support this is unusual enough (and has enough national ramifications) that it should be posted. Banedon (talk) 04:43, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
• We shouldn't have two links to the same article. Blurb altered accordingly — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:21, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Tony Mendez

Article: Tony Mendez (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): hollywood reporter
Credits:

• Nominated by DannyS712 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American CIA technical operations officer and writer DannyS712 (talk) 17:37, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

• Weak oppose a few [citation needed]s in there in this BLP. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:57, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

  @The Rambling Man:  Done --DannyS712 (talk) 22:48, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

  Weak support could we cite those other two memoirs? The Rambling Man (talk) 08:11, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

  @The Rambling Man:  Done --DannyS712 (talk) 08:17, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

• Comment: the most used source in the article seems to be his own website which I am not convinced by - Dumelow (talk) 08:11, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• Weak support - per AGF. BabbaQ (talk) 12:01, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
•  Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:04, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Nathan Glazer

Article: Nathan Glazer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American sociologist and writer. Article is in pretty good nick - Dumelow (talk) 09:19, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

• support. Well referenced. Capitalistroadster (talk) 09:46, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support - referenced. Ready to go.BabbaQ (talk) 09:54, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose books not referenced. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:13, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

  Support good work. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:09, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

• Books not referenced and I see a paragraph without references as well. The rest is fine. --Tone 10:16, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose Tagged articles do not belong in In the news. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 22:11, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
• Updated The Rambling Man; Tone ;Susmuffin - I've sourced the books and deleted the uncited statement. I'd be obliged if you could take another look now, cheers - Dumelow (talk) 08:08, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
•  Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:54, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) At least 66 people die in Mexico pipeline explosion

Article: 2019 Mexico pipeline explosion (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 66 people have been killed and dozens more injured in an explosion at an oil pipeline in Mexico. (Post)
News source(s): BBC. AP, Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by Sherenk1 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Alex of Canada (talk · give credit), Tbhotch (talk · give credit) and MX (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Article is a stub as of now. Progress is expected. Sherenk1 (talk) 09:14, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality - the story is significant beyond doubt, but the article is presently four sentences in length - not even remotely near the quality needed for the main page. Stormy clouds (talk) 11:34, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Article is in much better state now. Stormy clouds (talk) 16:18, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

• Support I support on condition of significance of the incident. The page is bound to grow with support of you and I.Shadychiri (talk) 11:52, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
• UPDATE & Support The deathtoll rose to "at least 66" from the previous 21 per BBC. The article's quality will sufface for now, as we should probably expect a swarm of Wikipedians to come work on the article once they hear the news. Openlydialectic (talk) 14:09, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support The article can still be expanded, but it's adequate. Davey2116 (talk) 16:39, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
• Speedy Support. Article had grown... is now substantial, with many sources. I think it's time to add it. OrbitHawk (talk) 17:55, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support - Article is ready. Also, this is of huge significance given the recent government crackdown on oil thieves. Major development in Mexico right now. MX (✉ • ✎) 18:32, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support - ITN ready. Sourced.BabbaQ (talk) 18:33, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support – Significant, and sad. Sca (talk) 18:44, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support, but narrow down the geographical reference in the blurb (Mexico is a big place). Tlahuelilpan is probably too obscure to be useful, but "...in the Mexican state of Hidalgo" might be helpful. Moscow Mule (talk) 18:47, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Not sure how widely known Mexican states are among Eng.-lang. readers. Maybe "east-central Mexico" or "north of Mexico City" instead? Sca (talk) 18:57, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Resolved acceptably by User:Masem, but don't underestimate en:wiki's reach among second-language speakers. Particularly, im this specific case, in light of the dire state of and generally unpleasant atmosphere on es:wiki. :) Moscow Mule (talk) 21:10, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

This is why we use bluelinks, and encourage users to use pop-ups. Short but gives enough to know roughly where in Mexico this was. --Masem (t) 21:21, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

• Support obvious one really, and article has been very well enhanced since I looked 12 hours ago. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:11, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
• Posted. ID'd the nearby city in the blurb. --Masem (t) 20:19, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
• Update: Not sure who to ping, but death toll is now 71. Courtesy ping to Masem. Thanks for the assistance. MX (✉ • ✎) 22:22, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
  • At this point, all notes like this should be at WP:ERRORS, and practically, 71 is "over 66". We don't want to update thta so frequently unless it is a drastic shift in numbers. --Masem (t) 23:07, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
    • Why not update it? Wouldn't it be easy? If you don't want to, I easily could, if given the priviledges. Alex of Canada (talk) 10:49, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

January 18

Portal:Current events/2019 January 18

January 18, 2019 (2019-01-18) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Syrian Civil War A massive explosion targetting a Tahrir al-Sham base in Idlib kills 15 people and injures 20 others. A car bomb is reported to have been used in the attack. (AMN) Internal conflict in Myanmar Myanmar's military announces that it has killed 13 Arakan Army fighters in a series of eight armed clashes in Rakhine State, spanning from January 5 to 13. In the same press conference, a military spokesman states that the Arakan Army had been newly classified as a terrorist organization. (ABC News) (Reuters via VOA) Somali Civil War (2009–present) Al Shabaab claims they killed over 57 Ethiopian troops in an ambush in Somalia. Ethiopian troops rejects that claim. (SITE) (Toronto Star) South Thailand insurgency Unknown gunmen shoot dead two Buddhist monks and injure two others in an attack at a temple in Thailand’s mainly Muslim south. (Reuters) Colombian armed conflict Colombian President Iván Duque Márquez unilaterally blames the National Liberation Army for the 2019 Bogotá car bombing, and suspends ongoing peace talks with the group, requesting that the Cuban government arrest the ten guerrilla group members leading the negotiations in Havana. (El Tiempo) (The New York Times) Disasters and accidents 2019 Tlahuelilpan pipeline explosion An illicitly tapped fuel pipeline explodes in Tlahuelilpan, Hidalgo, Mexico, killing 135 people and injuring 8 others. It is believed the explosion occurred after the line was ruptured by suspected fuel thieves. (La Jornada) Law and crime Flint water crisis 15 officials are charged for involuntary manslaughter and other crimes related to the Flint water crisis, in which contaminated sparked an outbreak of Legionnaires' disease. (Newsweek) (Bloomberg) Politics and elections 2018 Democratic Republic of the Congo general election The Congolese government rejects a request by the African Union to delay the announcement of the final result of the 30 December 2018 general election, which is being appealed in the country's Constitutional Court amidst accusations of election fraud. (Al Jazeera)

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(Posted) RD: Boo (dog)

Article: Boo (dog) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Boo, an internet sensation pomeranian, dies at the age of 12. (Post)
News source(s): people
Credits:

• Nominated by DannyS712 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: note that he was a dog DannyS712 (talk) 17:46, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

• Support blurb - Sourced and ready. I don't know if we post dogs. Even though cute.BabbaQ (talk) 18:30, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

• The nomination box just used above says: ".. any individual human, animal or other biological organism..." Might even get a tiny cute blurb? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:34, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

• Support. Quite a lot of sources for such a tiny dog. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:42, 20 January 2019 (UTC) Even if it seems somewhat bizarre in comparison

@Martinevans123: (edit conflict) added a blurb --DannyS712 (talk) 18:44, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

• • Absolutely not blurb worthy. --Masem (t) 18:51, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose as long as the photo on the page is a copyright violation. Too soon for fair use to be valid. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 18:55, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

• I've removed it. Expect it to come back, though; if it does I'll probably just delete the image. Black Kite (talk) 19:14, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

• Surprise, surprise! Black Kite (talk) 22:03, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

• I'd guess the image is about 95% of that article's appeal. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:04, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

• Yeah, agreed. However, no-one has clearly looked for a free image, they've just gone for Facebook. I bet if you pinged the owner and explained the situation they'd go for it. Black Kite (talk) 22:09, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

• Feeling a bit washed up, one imagines. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:40, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

• Support RD If the subject is of enough interest that we've got an article in overall decent shape (albeit a bit short) using verifiable sources, then it's fine for RD. I'm even finding BBC, CNN, HuffPo, etc stories about the dog's death, so while it's (obviously) not something we'd post as an ITN blurb, as an RD submission this is perfectly fine. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ ✨ 20:05, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
• Weak support for an "internet sensation", the article is somewhat sparse, but what's there is alright. Never a blurb. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:58, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support, with caveat - please do not post this if the non-free image is still in the article. Otherwise, fine for RD. Black Kite (talk) 22:03, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 22:35, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: John Coughlin (figure skater)

Article: John Coughlin (figure skater) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American figure skater. Article looks reasonable - Dumelow (talk) 21:22, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

• Weak oppose, a handful of unreferenced claims, now tagged, but generally okay. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:34, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for that The Rambling Man. I think I have fixed them all now - Dumelow (talk) 22:07, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Cool, support now. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:14, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose This article has been marked with a few tags. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 21:48, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
• support - Improved since Oppose !votes.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:26, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support quality of the article is sufficient enough to warrant my support. RIP — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shadychiri (talk • contribs) 01:19, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
•  Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:43, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) Swedish government formation

Article: 2018–19 Swedish government formation (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Riksdag reelects the Social Democrat Stefan Löfven as Prime Minister of Sweden. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The 4-month long 2018-19 Swedish government formation concludes with incumbent Stefan Löfvén being elected as Prime Minister.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Over 4 months after the 2018 Swedish general election, the Riksdag elects incumbent Stefan Löfvén as Prime Minister.
News source(s): Guardian, Spiegel (in German)
Credits:

• Nominated by Narayanese (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: The general election wasn't in ITN because the winner wasn't obvious, but that has changed with the incumbent government getting two new backing parties and breaking the previous coalition structure. Narayanese (talk) 10:06, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

• Stale No, no, no, you don't get a second crack at this. The general election was not posted because of quality (four opposes, all on quality grounds). We post elections with nebulous results all the time. ghost 13:38, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support – Officially it's a new government. Prefer Alt2. – Sca (talk) 14:22, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
• Comment The proposed blurb is insufficient, and needs to recognize the (for Sweden) long formation process of 4 months, and contain a link to 2018–19 Swedish government formation. ― Heb the best (talk) 15:08, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Makes sense. I've changed the target article in the box (instead of 2018 Swedish general election) Narayanese (talk) 16:09, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

• Support alt blurb – Historic political coalition. The blurb is ok and those interested will find further info. BabbaQ (talk) 18:07, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose the target article isn't even in the proposed blurb, let alone the bold article. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:26, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Add a blurb then that you feel is sufficient. We oppose on article quality not a blurb.BabbaQ (talk) 14:12, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Um, nope, that’s not how it works. Thanks though. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:41, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose The blurb fails to include the target article. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 03:04, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

That is not a reason to oppose. We oppose or support on article merits. A blurb can always be added. Please add one that you feel is sufficient.BabbaQ (talk) 14:12, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

• Support I added two altblurbs that might work better. I prefer the second one. 83.233.110.5 (talk) 11:10, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

I like the second one too. I know there are two ways of spelling his surname: Löfvén is what official records like tax office use, whereas Löfven is what his biological parents and nowadays he himself use. Narayanese (talk) 13:00, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for adding alt blurb. Good to go.BabbaQ (talk) 14:13, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

• Posted Alt2. --Masem (t) 20:17, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
  • I've put Lofven's lede image into the image prot queue to replace the current ITN box image, once it clears. --Masem (t) 20:20, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
• Observation - @Masem: Stefan Löfven was re-elected Prime Minister of Sweden. ArionEstar (talk) 20:32, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Technicallly, "elects incumbant..." implies re-election but I did add that. --Masem (t) 20:43, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
    • Spelling mistake in the blurb. His name is spelled Stefan Löfven. BabbaQ (talk) 20:48, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
      • fixed. --Masem (t) 20:50, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
        • "…re-elects incumbent…" seems pleonastic. ArionEstar (talk) 23:14, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

January 17

Portal:Current events/2019 January 17

January 17, 2019 (2019-01-17) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks 2019 Bogotá car bombing A suicide car-bomb attack at the General Santander National Police Academy in Bogotá, Colombia, kills at least 20 people and injures more than 50 others. (The Guardian) Disasters and accidents In France, a fire at the University Lyon 1 injures three people. Investigators say that it is a result of an accidental gas bottle explosion. (Euronews) Law and crime Gunmen on motorbikes shoot Ghanaian investigative journalist Ahmed Hussein-Suale to death in Accra. Ahmed was a member of the Tiger Eye Private Investigations team that exposed high-level corruption in the Ghana Football Association. (Reuters) Politics and elections United States federal government shutdown of 2018–2019 U.S. President Donald Trump postpones House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's upcoming diplomatic trip to Europe, Afghanistan and Egypt after she urged the President to postpone his upcoming State of the Union Address over the ongoing government shutdown. (BBC News) Science and technology Facebook removes alleged Russia-based accounts and pages as a part of a crackdown on misuse of its service. (The Wall Street Journal)

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(Posted) RD: Windsor Davies

Article: Windsor Davies (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Guardian BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Black Kite (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: British actor. Article needs some work. Black Kite (talk) 12:45, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

• Support The article has a decent number of sources and seems to include all information known at this time. Skteosk (talk) 18:39, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
•  Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:41, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose classic "actor" BLP, many appearances not referenced, pull please. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:42, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support - refs now added. - SchroCat (talk) 23:29, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
• Pull Ref on the roles doesn't cover 1/3 of those appearing. Why are we posting items with such glaring omissions on the strength of one support? ghost 16:50, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
• Pulled, lacking references. --Tone 20:23, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
• Tone, The roles are all covered (and had been until and IP added unsourced dross). Can you now repost this. If the history can be examined properly between posting and requests to pull, a quick revert will remove any problems, which is what ghost should have done, rather than just request a withdraw. Just to make sure it's 100% safe, I've taken the table out, making it doubly OK to re-post. - SchroCat (talk) 23:58, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
  • a) If you want to play the history game, the version in place[2] at the time you voted was last edited by you and had several uncited works that are now gone. b) I'm not required to do anything more than I wish here. ghost 15:45, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
• Looks good now, posting. --Tone 08:38, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

(Closed) Haemochromatosis affects 20 times more people than previously thought

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Iron overload (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Haemochromatosis affects 20 times more people than previously thought (Post)
News source(s): BBC. Journal article in the BMJ
Credits:

• Nominated by Count Iblis (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: "It was believed to seriously affect about one in 100 carriers. But the new research has suggested the true level could be closer to one in 10 among women, and one in five for men. Lead researcher Prof David Melzer said he was astonished at the findings. "We've shown that hereditary haemochromatosis is actually a much more common and stealth disease, including in older people," he said." Count Iblis (talk) 23:17, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose The article does not appear to have been updated. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:39, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
• Weak oppose Even if updated, I don't think this is groundbreaking medical news, particularly since its simply trying to identify the breadth of the diagnosis. --Masem (t) 23:51, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose so many different reasons not to post. power~enwiki (π, ν) 04:07, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
• Comment - Count Iblis, I do appreciate your eagerness to nominate unique stories for ITN, but surely it hasn't escaped your attention that virtually 99% of the stories you've nominated here for ITN have been unequivocally rejected.--WaltCip (talk) 12:57, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

I don't appreciate it. At least update the article.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 16:23, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

WaltCip Yes, and that's why I don't nominate news items here on a very regular basis, say every few days or so. However, the news items I nominate here are from a certain perspective important, they could well be nominated by some alternate set of editors. The consensus here about the stories that do and don;t get nominated can thus change due to changing attitudes of the existing editors or if new editors were to arrive here. That's why it's not a bad thing to occasionally nominate the sort of news articles like this one. Count Iblis (talk) 22:11, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

To stop the sniping, unless an editor is routinely nominating completely bogus stories which are routinely speedily closed for wasting everyone's time, I don't think we should consider a nominator's "hit ratio" for ITNC. In Cout Iblis' shoes, I would see this has at least a chance, so there's no need to complain about the nom due to the nominator. --Masem (t) 22:21, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose – Obscure – no bloody chance. Sca (talk) 14:43, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose no update, little significance.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 16:23, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose This is a rather obscure story. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 03:05, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose not even likely to have made ITN in medical Wikipedia. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:43, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

(Posted) Major explosion in Bogotá

Article: 2019 Bogotá car bombing (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A car bombing at the General Santander National Police Academy in Bogotá, Colombia kills 21 people and leaves 68 injured. (Post)
Alternative blurb II: ​ A car bombing in Bogotá, Colombia kills at least 21 people.
Alternative blurb III: ​ A car bombing at the General Santander National Police Academy in Bogotá, Colombia kills at least 21 people.
News source(s): BBC, The Independent
Credits:

• Nominated by SirEdimon (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: It seems that an article was not yet created, but I think it will be created in the next few hours due to the significance of the event. SirEdimon (talk)

Lol, this nomination seems a little premature if there is not even an article. Suggest writing the article first :) — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:34, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

• I've re-opened the nomination, because an article was created. Support pending article expansion. 2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:88BC:38CE:448D:D62F (talk) 04:05, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose for now. Taking out the inevitable "reaction" fluff the article is a bare bones stub. I am not opposed on principle, but article quality as of right now is far below our standards for the main page. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:12, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support. The article has been expanded since. --BorgQueen (talk) 15:31, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose per Ad Orientem - padding out with the inevitable "international reaction" section is not a sufficient expansion.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 16:21, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Did you read the article? There are other sections now. --BorgQueen (talk) 17:38, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support - Per improvements.BabbaQ (talk) 18:18, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
• Comment - I changed the blurbs since now it's reported that 21 people lost their lives in the incident.--SirEdimon (talk) 18:47, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
• Information - Alternative added. ArionEstar (talk) 22:55, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support - Pretty major incident, the article isn't in the best shape, but bringing it to the front page would surely bring more editors to improve it? Alex of Canada (talk) 03:01, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support 21 is a lot. Bolivia is a secure country Openlydialectic (talk) 06:41, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Bogota is in Colombia, not Bolivia, though. :D --BorgQueen (talk) 07:53, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support - Notable event and article is improving.----ZiaLater (talk) 07:04, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
• Posting. The article has been improved significantly. --Tone 09:18, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Mary Oliver

Article: Mary Oliver (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NPR
Credits:

• Nominated by Vanamonde93 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Wiki vj20 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: An argument could be made for a blurb, but personally I do not think her impact was high enough for that. Vanamonde (Talk) 18:57, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

• Support — the lede is overly short, but otherwise there's nothing wrong with it, and the article is in good shape. I especially appreciate the last two sections "poetic identity" and "critical reviews," which are well-referenced, provide a number of perspectives on her work, and in doing so show her impact on the English literary world. -Darouet (talk) 19:32, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support RD article looks fully referenced; even the awards all have citations. I don't see a blurb either, but I agree that some people might support one. power~enwiki (π, ν) 19:33, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
•  Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:25, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Chris Wilson (Australian musician)

Article: Chris Wilson (Australian musician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Australian blues musician. Date of death not known but announced today. I've added refs for the discography but the article was OK (except it needs splitting into sections) - Dumelow (talk) 10:51, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

• Support good article. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:56, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
• Any more details on his death? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:01, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

There doesn't seem to be much in the reports so far. Just that he had a diagnosis of cancer (I have added this) - Dumelow (talk) 13:01, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

• Support comprehensive, very well referenced. JennyOz (talk) 13:53, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
• Posted --Jayron32 16:43, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

January 16

Portal:Current events/2019 January 16

January 16, 2019 (2019-01-16) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Manbij bombing In Manbij, Syria, a suicide attack claimed by ISIL causes at least 19 casualties. Among them, two U.S. soldiers, a Pentagon Civilian, and a civilian contractor are reported dead and three other Service Members injured. (The Washington Post) 2019 Nairobi attack Dozens of people remain missing one day after a deadly attack on a popular hotel complex in Nairobi, according to the Kenya Red Cross Society. (NBC News) Gunmen attack two villages in the Ménaka region, Mali, near the border with Niger, killing at least 20 people. (NOVÝ CAS) Second Libyan Civil War Five people are killed and twenty are injured in clashes between rival militias in Tripoli, breaking several months of relative peace. (Middle East Eye) Terrorism in the United States A man from Georgia planned to attack the White House and even tried to trade his own car for weapons for the attack. (BBC News) Law and crime At least 21 people are killed in a massacre by gunmen in police uniforms in Port-au-Prince, Haiti. (The Independent) Politics and elections United States federal government shutdown About 42,000 active-duty Coast Guard members, who continue to work on essential operations, missed their scheduled paycheck Tuesday. This is the first time that United States Armed Forces servicemembers have not been paid during a shutdown or other lapse in government appropriation. (NBC News) President Donald Trump signs a bill which requires the government to compensate government employees after the shutdown is over for their work during the shutdown. (CNN) Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi suggests that President Trump's State of the Union address scheduled for January 29 be delayed or use a drastically modified format due to security concerns related to the ongoing government shutdown. (NPR) Brexit negotiations, Meaningful vote Theresa May's government survives a no confidence vote by a majority of 19. (BBC News) 2018 Andalusian regional election The Andalusian parliament elects Juan Manuel Moreno Bonilla as the next regional President with the votes of conservative party PP, liberal party Cs and far-right party Vox, ending a 36-year term, since the restoration of democracy, of social democratic PSOE government. (El Mundo) Macedonia naming dispute Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras survives a no-confidence vote after the Independent Greeks party quit the ruling coalition. (The New York Times)

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(Closed) Manbij bombing

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Article: 2019 Manbij bombing (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 19 people, including four American citizens, have been killed and 3 more injured in a bombing in Manbij, Syrian Defence Forces-controlled territory, Northern Syria. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, New York Times, Sputnik (Russia), South China Morning Post (Hong Kong)
Credits:

• Nominated by Openlydialectic (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Well-written article with sources and everything. 1) Everywhere on the news across the world. 2) Bombing in a relatively stable territory of Kurdish-populated SDF-held territory in the northern Syria, which hadn't seen terrorist attacks of this scale. 3) 4 Americans killed and 3 more injured, which has implications for Trump's presidency and American withdrawal in general (which is probably the reason why it's all across the news. 4) It happened near a warzone ofcourse, but we here vow to post what's on the news, and this certainly is. Openlydialectic (talk) 11:03, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

• Weak Support - Per sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BabbaQ (talk • contribs)
• Oppose Too short; insufficient coverage of topic to merit posting at this time. Spencer^T•C 15:38, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

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(Closed) RD: Jack Bogle

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Article: John C. Bogle (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Jack Bogle, the father of the index fund and a frequent critic of the financial services industry dies at 89. (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post CNBC& etc.
Credits:

• Nominated by Ad Orientem (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: The article needs a little work, but if it can be brought up to speed this may be worth a blurb. Bogle was a giant in the world of finance and often referred to as the conscience of Wall Street. He invented the low cost index fund as an alternative to the often predatory practices of most brokerage firms. Ad Orientem (talk) 23:25, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb - he was 89 and only a household name among a small group of people. I'm not sure that Warren Buffett would get a blurb, and Bogle is less prominent. Not yet ready for RD either, but I expect that will be fixed in the next few hours. power~enwiki (π, ν) 01:32, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Warren Buffet has described Bogle as probably the greatest investor he has ever known. If the standard for a blurb is that the newly deceased was more or less universally recognized as being in the top tier of their profession or calling, then I think he qualifies. Name recognition is not a criteria. That said, I agree that the article needs a little work. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:51, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

• Support blurb when ready. The criterion for death-blurbs is someone at the top of their field, where the field is not too narrow. Michael Atiyah was among the leading mathematicians of his time, and Bogle (from what I'm reading) was one of the most prominent investors. Atiyah should've gotten a blurb, and Bogle should get one, too. Davey2116 (talk) 03:35, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

• By the way, if Warren Buffett doesn't get a blurb, I daresay that the serial blurb-!opposers have gone far too far. He's a household name and has been in the top five richest people for as long as I can remember. Davey2116 (talk) 03:35, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb I would expect that someone that deserves a blurb would have a significant section that makes it clear why this person is clearly blurb-worthy - influence, etc. That's just not there. RD is sufficient but article needs referencing fixing. --Masem (t) 03:51, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb Regardless of someone's influence or fame in a certain area, their death actually has to be In The News - after all, that's the whole point of this section. I'm looking at the BBC website and not only is this story not on the front page, it's not even in the North America news section. Indeed, the only UK news source I can see that has anything on the story is the Financial Times. Black Kite (talk) 07:57, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose inadequately referenced, and certainly not blurb-worthy. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:20, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
• Referencing concerns seem to have been addressed. Is this RD good to go? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:00, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

  I'm not sure what article you're looking at, but no, it's not good to go. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:04, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

  Added a couple of references — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:12, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb. Blurbs should be reserved for cases in which the death (and perhaps funeral) are so extensively covered by secondary sources that it could have a stand-alone article. Abductive (reasoning) 15:26, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

• So that's the only criterion now. Although still seems somewhat subjective. Is that written down somewhere as guidance/ policy. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:32, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

• The criterion is this, from Wikipedia:In_the_news#Recent_deaths_section, and I quote "Deaths where the cause of death itself is a major story...or where the events surrounding the death merit additional explanation" are the standard criteria for the blurb. --Jayron32 18:33, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

• That's ONE of the criterion. The other of which is a "major transformative world leaders in their field" which is the one the Mr. Bogle would ostensibly qualify. My take is that he is unquestionably major and transformative, but perhaps his field is too narrow. I'm a weak support on the blurb (notwithstanding quality concerns). ghost 21:57, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

• You missed out a bit - "In rare cases, the death of major transformative world leaders in their field may merit a blurb." This is not one of those.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 16:26, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

• That's a valid point; I withdraw my support. I do stand by my distaste for people cherry-picking criteria (or making up their own). ghost 19:00, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

• Comment: The infobox photo is a proabable copyright violation (no credible evidence of free license) and I have nominated it for deletion: see deletion discussion. --Animalparty! (talk) 18:55, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Oppose This article has been tagged with multiple tags. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 21:43, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

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(Posted) Zimbabwe fuel protests

Article: Zimbabwe fuel protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Zimbabwe, eight are reported dead as people protest the government's increase in the price of fuel. (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera, MSN, Zimbabwe Daily
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Discott (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: The incident is a substantial protest since the 2017 Zimbabwean coup d'état and attempted economic reforms were implemented. As security forces are still in force on the streets keeping order and a strike called to protest the price increases enters its final day the event is assumed to still be ongoing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Discott (talk • contribs) 13:53, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose but weakly, seems like a relatively irrelevant encyclopedic issue, but in any case, the article is very decent. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:29, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
  • In what way is it a "relatively irrelevant encyclopedic issue"?--Discott (talk) 20:39, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
    • I'm not sure how to answer that. It's borderline interesting, it's barely of encyclopedic value, it's probably irrelevant in the "2019 calendar". The Rambling Man (talk) 20:43, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
      • Gosh I would not say that to a Zimbabwean or someone from southern Africa. Would a similar event of the same scale in the USA (for example) also be borderline interesting? Also why is it irrelevent in the 2019 calendar? It did take place entirely in 2019 after all.--Discott (talk) 21:28, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
        • Gosh indeed. In response to your question, it's got nothing to do with the calendar, I'm just not seeing it's in the news. Please try to remember what I said when I made my first post, it was weak opposition and I acknowledged that the article was in a reasonable condition. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:40, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
          • I read today in my local paper that Roundup 360 was banned in France. I don't suppose that will have been ITN either. ^^ SashiRolls ^{t · c} 22:46, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
            • I don't even know what that means. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:54, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support the entry is well written and referenced. SashiRolls ^{t · c} 22:21, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support – This news is getting international traction with BCC, CNN, and Al Jazeera reporting on it. In light of deaths, seriousness of the situation, and good quality of the article. I support blurb or some alternative. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 00:24, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

P.S. The government has shutdown the internet.[3] --- Coffeeandcrumbs 00:26, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

• Support Quite in the news and the article is fairly OK. –Ammarpad (talk) 06:53, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
•  Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:56, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

January 15

Portal:Current events/2019 January 15

January 15, 2019 (2019-01-15) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks 2019 Nairobi attack Multiple explosions and gunfire are reported after four armed men stormed the Dusit hotel in Nairobi, Kenya. The Somalia-based militant group Al-Shabaab claims responsibility. (BBC News) Arts and culture 2019 Prayag Kumbh Mela The largest human gathering in the world, the Kumbh Mela festival, starts at Prayagraj (previously known as Allahabad), India. More than 120 million Hindu devotees, as well as tourists, are expected. (The Guardian) International relations North Korea–United States relations South Korean media reports that North Korean officials are expected to visit the United States to discuss a second summit between the two countries at an unspecified date. (Reuters) (Al Jazeera) Law and crime Laurent Gbagbo, former President of Ivory Coast, is acquitted of crimes against humanity charges by the International Criminal Court. (BBC News) U.S. District judge Jesse Furman issues a decision that invalidates the Trump administration's addition of a U.S. citizenship question to the 2020 census. This is the first ruling on this issue. There are four more lawsuits, filled by dozens of states, cities and other groups, yet to be heard. (NPR) Catalan regional police in Barcelona and Igualada arrest 17 suspected terrorists ready to launch a terrorist attack. (The Telegraph) (Europa Press) Politics and elections Brexit negotiations, Meaningful vote British Prime Minister Theresa May's Brexit deal is defeated in Parliament by 432 votes to 202, the worst defeat for a Prime Minister in modern British history. As a result, a vote of no confidence in her government will be held tomorrow. (Reuters) (BBC News) 2020 United States presidential election, 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries Democratic U.S. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand of New York announces she is running for president in 2020. (NPR) Science and technology The correction of the North Magnetic Pole model, one year ahead of the regular five-year update, scheduled to be released this week is delayed until the end of January because of the U.S. federal government shutdown. The model is used in navigation and by the GPS systems in smartphones. The pole has been wandering, much faster than expected, away from the Canadian Arctic toward Siberia. (UPI) (M.I.T. Technology Review) (The Maritime Executive)

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(Posted) RD: Mason Lowe

Article: Mason Lowe (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Kyerjay (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American bull rider, crushed to death by a bull. Article looks to be in good shape - Dumelow (talk) 17:09, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

• Is he notable? Article only created today, all references from his life are to local news or bull-riding websites. Black Kite (talk) 19:25, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
  • WP:NRODEO says "Have participated as athletes at the highest level of professional competition." Lowe contested the "Built Ford Tough World Finals" from 2015-17, which seems to have been the top event in bull-riding at the time. ghost 22:25, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Yeah, 9th in the world in his sport at one point, and only the third bull rider killed by bulls (since association founded). --Kyerjay (talk) 23:26, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support I see no issues. ghost 13:42, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support Article updated Kyerjay (talk) 21:55, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support National coverage from CBS, Foxnews, CNN, The Guardian, CBSSports Net, and USA Today. I have links so these could be added to article. dawnleelynn^(talk) 00:48, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
•  Note: This is now stale, but given that it has been marked as "ready" I didn't close the nomination (as a non-admin closure) so that an administrator could decide if they wanted to post it or not. --`DannyS712 (talk) 15:28, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

  May be stale, but given that the template currently has only 3 rds, it should be okay to add this... --DannyS712 (talk) 21:50, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

• Posted – Muboshgu (talk) 21:53, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) 2019 Nairobi hotel attack

Article: 2019 Nairobi hotel attack (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 14 people are killed in a terrorist attack within a Nairobi hotel by the militant group Al-Shabaab. (Post)
News source(s): Citizen TV, CNN, BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Shadychiri (talk · give credit)
• Updated by No Swan So Fine (talk · give credit), Beowul116 (talk · give credit) and Lopifalko (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: The incident is a substantial act of terror in Kenya since Garrisa University college attack. As the Area is cordoned off, the incident is assumed to be still ongoing until the operation is complete 22:15, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

• Support: Minimal though the article is, it appears well-sourced; this is getting play on the promos for the national evening news here in the U.S. so there's international interest. Daniel Case (talk) 23:30, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support - and ready for posting.BabbaQ (talk) 23:35, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support Should have added this after fixing up the blurb/nom for Shadychiri. Article is short but sourced and will only grow as more details unfold. --Masem (t) 00:31, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Wait until the article has some meat on its bones. Right now it's a stub and we don't promote stubs on the main page. Support in principle. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:54, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Weak support just about good enough. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:42, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Weak support – Notable, but agree with Orientem that the article really should be fleshed out some before a blurb is posted. Sca (talk) 15:05, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support – Notable enough to be included.----ZiaLater (talk) 15:12, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support Article could be expanded per above. Davey2116 (talk) 16:15, 16 January 2019 (UTC)\
• Support This is a very big news story in Africa, the article is also detailed enough on the event. --Discott (talk) 18:21, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Comment has been ready to post for five hours or so. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:29, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 19:33, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

(Posted to Ongoing) Failed Brexit Vote in UK Parliament

Article: Brexit (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The UK Parliament votes against the Withdrawal Agreement presented by Prime Minister Theresa May, leaving in doubt whether necessary economic agreements will be in place before the UK's withdrawal from the European Union. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The UK Parliament votes against the European Union Withdrawal Agreement presented by Prime Minister Theresa May, triggering a vote of confidence in her government.
Alternative blurb II: ​ UK's Theresa May cabinet loses the votes about the European Union Withdrawal Agreement but survives the vote of confidence on the following day.
News source(s): NYTimes
Credits:

• Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: This is not the end of the Brexit situation, but is a significant vote that alters what will happen in the future. In addition to a "no confidence" put forth against May by the opposition party, May has to come up with alternate Withdrawal proposals by Monday, or risk that UK will leave without any trade/economic agreements in place which is threatening to harm UK's economy. Masem (t) 20:41, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

• Comment the last part of the sentence, "leaving in doubt whether the UK will withdrawal from the European Union" seems unnecessarily speculative. It could just as well have said ""leaving in doubt whether the UK will leave the European Union with a deal" or something similar. Nobody knows what will happen now, to be frank. Yakikaki (talk) 20:46, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose unless the government falls. Otherwise this is just the latest chapter in the never ending Brexit drama. We rarely post non-events... i.e. the Commons did not pass the government's Brexit deal. -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:48, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose if we get a new PM or a general election out of it, let's re-visit, otherwise this is just another facet of the ongoing omnishambles. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:49, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
  • If TRM (which I will take as an expert on all matters UK) deems this not appropriate, I would not be against a speedy close. Everything I read about this seems to make this a big thing, stateside, but if the UK just sees this as just part of the Brexit situation, then let's keep it to that. --Masem (t) 20:51, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

    I think most of the EU at this point just waits until 29 March is here so we can finally get rid of those drama queens on the island. Regards SoWhy 21:00, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

    I think there's more than a tiny chance we're going to stay in, so better get used to the queens once again. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:07, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

    Minor point: back in November, you said that 'Parliament voting against the "deal"' was worthy of posting. But things changes very quickly on this matter. Carcharoth (talk) 10:08, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

    Actually, no, I said it was "useful news", nothing about "worthy of posting". Given that we're now in a cycle of continual rejection, posting it is probably not actually even useful. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:20, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

    Fair enough, though you did say that in response to my post that asked 'what are the key events that would justify an ITN/C nomination?'. Anyway, when has ITN ever been about posting "useful news"? Carcharoth (talk) 10:24, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

    I'm not sure "justify an INT/C nomination" equates to "worthy of posting". The Rambling Man (talk) 11:39, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose It was a fairly guaranteed fail, everyone predicted it. Wait to see if May resigns. Kingsif (talk) 20:57, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose - mainly per TRM. Nothing much has happened yet. Fallout therefrom may be a story, or may not be. The big story will be on Brexit day, currently scheduled for 29 March. Mjroots (talk) 21:02, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Support Ongoing Mjroots (talk) 15:09, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Wait: Defeats like this are unprecedented, and so are motions of no confidence. I'll defer judgement until tomorrow night. Sceptre (talk) 21:02, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
• Wait for the vote of no confidence tomorrow. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 21:06, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Support Ongoing as the no-confidence vote was defeated. This is an ongoing news story very much in the news.--- Coffeeandcrumbs 19:47, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

• But even then there's no definitive outcome. I guess a vote of no confidence in the government itself might just about be newsworthy, but even then I'm not sure it's that big a deal compared to what's going on in the backdrop. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:07, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

• Ongoing Brexit is major news every day in the UK and this will continue as the deadline approaches. As there will be further twists and turns, an entry in Ongoing would be appropriate to help readers find our coverage. Andrew D. (talk) 21:23, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
• Comment no offence to the esteemed Wikipedians above, who of course comment in good faith, but it's at times like this that it becomes clear how unfit for purpose ITN really is. And I say this every time. This vote is by far the most significant thing to befall the UK in recent years. It was the biggest defeat by a sitting government in Parliament since democracy began. Yes, it was predicted, but it sets in motion an utterly unpredictable and potentially catastrophic series of events. The no confidence vote tomorrow is a red herring. It will not succeed. But today's story is the headline. Across the world. And of course it should be posted. It probably won't, but it should. There endeth the rant.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:35, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support one would be hard-pressed to find a country where this isn't in the news. Post now, update as new information comes. Banedon (talk) 22:42, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
• Change the statement : The statement is not neutral at this moment.--1233^Talk 23:31, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
• Wait, per others, to see if this develops into either May resigning or the government falling on tomorrow's confidence vote (which I doubt will happen, as May is too smart to let that happen if (or more likely, when) she realizes she won't win and tenders her resignation). Daniel Case (talk) 23:34, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

• Agree. She might just scrape though tomorrow's vote. And even if she doesn't, she is not obliged to resign or call a General Election. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:46, 15 January 2019 (UTC) p.s. 325 to 306 was a bit of a scrape. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:19, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

• Comment: Most of the coverage of the defeat is on meaningful vote, and 2019 motion of no confidence in the May ministry has been created. How about an alt-blurb combining those two articles? Would that garner more support? Moscow Mule (talk) 23:36, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

• Yes, I think it probably would. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:48, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

• Thanks. Suggested alt-blurb in box. Still not great... Moscow Mule (talk) 00:09, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose because it doesn't actually decide anything, but would suggest moving to Ongoing - this is going to move quickly now and generate a lot of stories. Black Kite (talk) 23:42, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
• Ongoing seems to fit the bill, or lack of it, here. Espresso Addict (talk) 00:06, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support a significant milestone in a major international story which has dominated headlines for years it seems absurd to not post this. --LaserLegs (talk) 00:49, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Comment The problem is, this particular stage is largely not news as it was expected and everyone not living under a rock knew that was going to be the result and its not even the most important step in the whole leave process. The process that started with the leglislation to leave, and will end at the end of March (assuming it doesnt get reversed by then). The no-confidence motion will be news if it passes, but not if it doesnt, but even if it does pass it then only triggers a 14 day window for the government to try and deal their way out of it, if they cant pass another no confidence motion within 14 days, it then triggers a general election (which takes place 25 days after that) - at this point we are near the end of Feb, if that results in a change of Gov, the new Gov then needs to either decide if its holding a new referendum, decide if its taking the deal on the table, attempt to negotiate a new deal with the EU, or just continue to crash out. It could also unilaterally pass legislation to reverse the leave. All of the above are important news-worthy stages, but its going to be spread out over a 2 month period, far too long for 'ongoing'. And some/all of the various options might not take place. So it might be better to have a quick RFC on what main results to include rather than waiting for them to come up individually (if they do). Only in death does duty end (talk) 01:01, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Question for BrExperts: Is "Meaningful vote" really the best name for this article? Will people looking for it be able to find it in a few years' time? Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:45, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose as blurb; Ongoing would get my support. At the moment it's just another step on a very long path (and is "bill failed to pass" really an ITN story?) There are several potential outcomes to this which may be on the MP in the next few days/weeks. - SchroCat (talk) 08:29, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

• Well, the vote was 432 against and 202 in support of the deal, which was the largest majority against a United Kingdom government ever. Surprised this is not in the proposed blurb. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:47, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

• True, which is certainly a better blurb, but on reflection I still think Ongoing is better for now - there will be more of this to rumble on over the next 11+ weeks (or even longer) that will be more newsworthy than a parliamentary voting record. - SchroCat (talk) 09:42, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

• Wait for the outcome of the confidence vote. If May loses the confidence vote, then I would support, with that information added to the blurb. If May wins the confidence vote, then I would oppose and would wait until Brexit itself, which is only a couple of months away if May wins. (NorthernFalcon (talk) 09:22, 16 January 2019 (UTC))

• I'm glad you have a crystal ball - Brexit is only one possible outcome, whether she wins or loses! - SchroCat (talk) 09:42, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

• Comment I would support an entry in ongoing, or potentially an individual entry with wording similar to Martin's comment above. To quote the live news feed from the BBC (entry at 08.39 today), "Theresa May's historic Commons defeat is splashed across the front pages of papers across the globe" (my emphasis). To those who say that this was expected and just another chapter, well, we currently have the US federal government shutdown in 'ongoing', and I don't see that as substantively more significant than the whole Brexit shenanigans. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 09:25, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Brexit has been going on for years. The assumption is that it is going to happen unless a clear, specific event occurs (like a second referendum) to forestall it. The U.S. government shutdown is completely unpredictable and no one knows what is going to happen with it, it's unprecedented in terms of length, and it's having a significant and ongoing impact.--WaltCip (talk) 16:54, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Have we got a Brexit vs US Govt Shutdown competition now? Martinevans123 (talk) 17:00, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

• Comment - back in November, I started a section at WT:ITN (the talk page for 'In The News', link is to the archived version) to see what thoughts people had about how to handle potential ITN items relating to Brexit and related articles. It may be worth resuming that discussion in the coming days and weeks. User:Sca commented back then that posting the result of the vote should be considered. I think the scale of the historic defeat is what should possibly be posted here. If this was not Brexit, but a parliamentary defeat of this scale on another matter in 'normal' times, we would very likely be posting it (because it would lead to the government collapsing/resigning). But these are not normal times for British parliamentary democracy. Back in November, when opining what would rise to the level of an ITN entry, I said: actual change of PM and/or government, result of any new referendum, formal moment of any Brexit, and hardly anything else. Though this comes close. On balance, I would say an entry now is justifiable. The scale of the defeat will be seen as one of the key moments. Carcharoth (talk) 10:02, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Comment - as usual, the purpose of ITN is utterly ignored in the rush to come up with reasons why this shouldn't be posted. Purpose #1 is To help readers find and quickly access content they are likely to be searching for because an item is in the news. It undoubtedly meets that. Purpose #2 is To showcase quality Wikipedia content on current events. The update on this particular vote is admittedly short, but the Brexit article as a whole is well-written and informative, and there is no doubt that readers will be looking for it this week. I acknowledge the caveat about not posting continual updates on the same topic, and I wouldn't have supported any of the previous "developments" that have been rumbling on day after day for the past two months, but this is really the big one. The vote we've been waiting for forever, the government lost it by the biggest margin in history, and despite being predicted, it still changes the course of things completely and has been the top story in all major countries of the world. And going forward I would not expect any further blurbs on Brexit until either a referendum is held, or we crash out in March with no deal, or a deal is agreed and we leave. But those are all weeks or months away. So yes I think we should post this one, but no I don't think that would set a precedent that every other Brexit item will be posted. This is the biggy.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:36, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Voyager is leaving the solar system and Britain is leaving the EU. Rather than trying to figure out the milestones from our own opinions, look at any major news outlet in the world. What is today’s headline? This. Either post it or put it in ongoing. Voyager has no practical impact on daily life. Jehochman ^Talk 10:51, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

• And Voyager wasn't even asked to pay €25.4 billion as an exit fee. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:04, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

• This is just another step in the process. There's plenty more where this came from. The only justifiable way of posting Brexit right now is to add it to Ongoing. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:38, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

• Support ongoing, or weak support altblurb - per The Rambling Man. And, for all the people saying it's massive news and such a shift ... it's talked about, around the world, in such vague terms that nobody knows what it changes. Especially the British people, who assumed it was going to fail, so it changes nothing. Though it does guarantee Brexit won't be shut up about at all for a long time - so ongoing. And, symbolically, it is significant, with an overwhelming defeat and the potential but unlikely vote against the government. --Kyerjay (talk) 13:36, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose per TRM. Wait until a general election is called, if it even happens. Nihlus 13:50, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose Per TRM. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 13:57, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose – for now. Have to backpedal from what I said in Nov. about posting the Commons vote, as things still seem to be in a state of flux (if not chaos), and Tuesday's vote doesn't seem so "historic" after all. If only the British pols would either do something or get off the throne, so to speak. Sca (talk) 15:21, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

  Oh, there's no doubt the vote was historic, given the magnitude of the government's defeat, but it's local politics, has not affected the process one iota, and is merely one step in a seemingly infinite number of steps which seem destined to us reneging on Article 50. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:35, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Historic in a general or global sense. However significant for near-term UK politics, its real-world effect is negligible and the Brexit vote doesn't qualify. If one takes the long view of British democracy's long history, it's a minor event. – Sca (talk) 16:41, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Oh, definitely historic in a parochial sense. Like a minor league baseball record or something. You'll note a significant number of people (some of us from the UK) are opposing this nomination. I think we have a clue. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:20, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Since May is said likely to survive today's no-confidence pageant, I could see sticking this in Ongoing until something consequential happens. Sca (talk) 18:00, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Sure, Ongoing is the only viable place for it right now, but be prepared for it to sit there until late-March, possibly later, as these kinds of blips will be taking place between now and then. Is that what we really want, a Brexit note for 2+ months? The Rambling Man (talk) 18:04, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

• Support blurb or ongoing Major news worldwide. I think ongoing would be more appropriate, though, given the developments expected over the next few days. Davey2116 (talk) 16:17, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• This is a difficult one. On one hand, it's something that didn't happen (i.e. the bill didn't pass), internal political squabbling, and we're no closer to knowing if/how Brexit will happen. On the other hand, the defeat was record-breaking, Brexit is the most important event in UK politics for decades, the vote will be of of historical encyclopaedic value, and this is very much 'in the news' worldwide. It's also part of an ongoing process which is taking too long to leave in the 'ongoing' section until it concludes, and there remains the remote possibility that it will cause the government to fall tonight. On balance, wait until we get the outcome of the no confidence vote this evening; if May loses or resigns I support a blurb, if she survives, as seems much more likely, I weak support ongoing, though am not sure which article would be best listed there. Modest Genius ^talk 16:21, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support ongoing. An important story where new developments are likely to happen on a regular basis for the next couple of months. Nsk92 (talk) 19:56, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Comment regarding ongoing now I'm cool with this going into Ongoing, but please, everyone note that it will need to stay there for at least three months. Is that what we use Ongoing for? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:00, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
  • If they really extend the exit date for...actually, not sure what they plan to do but they seem keen on doing that for some reason..., it might even stay there for six months or longer. That seems excessive. Regards SoWhy 20:36, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
    • Indeed, there are going to be a number of headline-busting events in the next few weeks relating to Brexit. Most of us Brits don't think this should be on the Main Page at all (ironically) but if it is heading there, then Ongoing and be prepared for three months of it. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:28, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support ongoing per TRM's acquiescence above. I think it's hard to deny that this story is newsworthy in its own right.--WaltCip (talk) 20:34, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Suggested another blurb, needs some trimming, but I think such a blurb is better at the moment than having an ongoing Brexit for 3 months and maybe much longer. --Tone 20:38, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

  No, a blurb for this micro-decision is unnecessary. This event has changed literally nothing. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:26, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

  I disagree that nothing has changed. The unacceptability of May's deal has now been fully exposed. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:43, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

  No, that was never in doubt, ever, at any point. Just look at RS. Not one single one of them had any doubt this was going to be a shambles. Just like all of Brexit. This vote is parochially notable but actually absolutely meaningless in the overall Brexit process. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:48, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

  We don't post news items based on WP:CRYSTAL. The actual result of the vote was the event, it was the proof. The size of the defeat makes it historically significant, regardless of any "Brexit process." Just my personal view. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:59, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

  Yes, thanks, I think I'm aware of CRYSTAL. The actual result was "so what". A big deal in British political history, but not unexpected and changes nothing. Like posting a minor league baseball record. Who cares? Whether it was lost by 1 vote or 200 votes, the result was utterly predictable. We wouldn't expect to post such stories from the US or any other country in the world, why is the UK any different? Nothing changed, nothing unexpected happened. Next. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:06, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

  I'd agree with Tom Harris in The Daily Telegraph who today said: "Politics is littered with milestones. We passed a pretty important one yesterday". Martinevans123 (talk) 22:18, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

  Of course. And Tom is employed to sell newspapers. But thanks for your nostalgic approach, it's really valued. Surprised we're not getting a dodgy YouTube video to accompany it. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:22, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

  Nostalgia strictly ain't what it used to be. But be my guest. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:29, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

• Comment do we need to post it? It's not hard to search Brexit if someone wants more info, but it's not like most ITN news and noms where there's simple headline + article with lots of contextual and further information people won't know about. It would be simple headline + nothing more; people know the context, and there's nothing more to say about the votes than no to deal, meh to government. Kingsif (talk) 21:22, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Info Also posting update for anyone not in the UK at the minute - May has announced she will give a speech at 2200 UTC (in about 10 minutes), will update if something comes from that. Kingsif (talk) 21:50, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

  Has she? The Rambling Man (talk) 21:52, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

  Ah, you mean there's going to be a "statement" at 10pm (which looks likely to be delayed because of a football match). Good work. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:54, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

  Yeh, quite reflective of UK politics Kingsif (talk) 21:57, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

  So, another meaningless political statement. So what? The Rambling Man (talk) 22:07, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

  (edit conflict)Nothing of interest, besides mentioning that all the parties have been and will be working together, except Labour who have gone all Isolationist but are still invited. Kingsif (talk) 22:08, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

  Yes, nothing of interest. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:14, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

• Ongoing – In view of what's happened, Ongoing seems appropriate. (Or as Ben Bradlee is reputed to have said, "Stick it inside somewhere.") – Sca (talk) 22:26, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose ongoing Brexit and the related negotiations have been going on for almost 2 years now, and it has not been a feature of the "ongoing" section throughout that time. If there are major developments in the process over the next few months, they warrant their own discussion in ITN. But 3 months of (possible) minor developments should not be what the ongoing section is for. PotentPotables ( talk ) 23:35, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Ongoing for now. If nothing of consequence occurs in a reasonable time frame, kill it. Sca (talk) 02:42, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

•  Posted to Ongoing, per rough consensus above. Suggest reviewing in a week with a view to pulling it if no progress has occurred. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:43, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) Laurent Gbagbo acquitted of crimes against humanity

Article: Laurent Gbagbo (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Former President of Ivory Coast Laurent Gbagbo is acquitted of crimes against humanity by the International Criminal Court (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: I know we don't often post acquittals but this is a pretty big case and has been described as a big blow for the ICC, especially as the judges halted the trial early and found the prosecution had not provided sufficient evidence. Worth a discussion, I think - Dumelow (talk) 18:52, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

• Tentative support, however, the update is thin and the blurb should mention the 2010 crisis. --Tone 19:58, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

• Comment Article has a severe referencing issue. Entire sections without a single reference.--SirEdimon (talk) 19:59, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose on referencing/quality. Otherwise an appropriate ITN blurb. --Masem (t) 20:18, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support acquittals are as notable as convictions. Banedon (talk) 22:42, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support The acquital of Gbagbo brings into fore the chain of mistrials and acquitals that have befelled the ICC. They stated they had a strong case only for it to wither away. this is something that shouldn't be let go silently Shadychiri (talk) 22:58, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support - per notable judgement.BabbaQ (talk) 23:36, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
• Comment: Would like to see some reactions to the acquittal in the article before posting. Spencer^T•C 00:40, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
  • I have added a couple (mass celebrations in IC, but general concern about the ICC's role in future cases). --Masem (t) 00:56, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support when the article's cn-tags are addressed. Davey2116 (talk) 16:24, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Weak oppose acquittals are seldom as notable as convictions, it's entirely contextual, but in this case it's a big deal. Can't post with BLP violations though. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:24, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support once quality issues are addressed. ICC judgments on heads of state (whether convictions or acquittals) are very rare and important. Neutrality^talk 01:43, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
• No sourcing issues are apparent on the article now.  Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:48, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

  Well, apart from the four [citation needed] tags of course. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:53, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

(Closed) RD: Carol Channing

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Article: Carol Channing (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

• Nominated by WaltCip (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Renowned Broadway star, passed away at 97 years old. WaltCip (talk) 12:58, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

• Weak oppose some paras unreferenced in the main prose and the awards/noms table almost completely uncited. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:03, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
• Support. With the exception of some redlinked husbands, it seems gtg. — Wyliepedia @ 15:33, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
• Weak support. A couple of citations needed but awards nominations referenced. The two instances where citations are missing are not essential to the article and the text could be amended pending references. Capitalistroadster (talk) 16:14, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

  Actually there looks like there are currently six [citation needed] tags. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:16, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

  There are eleven at the time of this edit. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 21:27, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose The citations needed tags are just the beginning of the problem. Several of references are to YouTube video clips of her movies and interviews on television talk shows. Much of this article may be original research. Her YouTube videos are worth a watch and very entertaining but they are not reliable sources.--- Coffeeandcrumbs 18:26, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Not necessarily, but they do pose a problem. If she talked about herself on a television interview on a recognized television program, and we can cite show, episode, air date, etc. then that's acceptable as a reliable source. We cannot however link to YouTube videos that aren't uploaded by the show's copyright holder. Spot-check shows most of the video links are clear copyright vios in this sense. That's a major problem, but if they can be changed to {{cite video}} templates without the YouTube link, then that's better. --Masem (t) 18:48, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
    • The reliance on primary sources is pretty bad. Large portions of the personal life section is sourced to divorse court documents hosted on Justia. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 20:49, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose This article has severe issues with its references. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 21:27, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

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