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*'''Post-Posting comment''' As pointed above in detail by Vanilla Wizard and others , blurb should specify he was leader of the political bureau [[User:AlexBobCharles|AlexBobCharles]] ([[User talk:AlexBobCharles|talk]]) 20:51, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
*'''Post-Posting comment''' As pointed above in detail by Vanilla Wizard and others , blurb should specify he was leader of the political bureau [[User:AlexBobCharles|AlexBobCharles]] ([[User talk:AlexBobCharles|talk]]) 20:51, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

:How come no votes for Oppose as part of ongoing? [[User:QueensanditsCrazy|QueensanditsCrazy]] ([[User talk:QueensanditsCrazy|talk]]) 08:46, 1 August 2024 (UTC)


==== RD: Robert Fellowes, Baron Fellowes ====
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August 1

August 1, 2024 (2024-08-01) (Thursday)

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  • Intel announces plans to lay off 15% of its workforce in order to reduce its operating costs. (AP)

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July 31

July 31, 2024 (2024-07-31) (Wednesday)

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September 11 prosecutions

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Article: United States v. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Walid bin Attash, and Mustafa al-Hawsawi agree to plead guilty in connection with planning the September 11 attacks (pictured). (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
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  • Oppose, the article isn't in good shape and this isn't notable Personisinsterest (talk) 23:45, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, big news. this is the biggest development in this case that has been ongoing for more than 20 years. A guilty plea wasn't expected because there was talk of the government wanting to imprison them for life (or just sentence them to death). President Biden even denied a plea proposal just last September. — That Coptic Guyping me! (talk) (contribs) 01:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose This is really nothing, doesn't cap off anything since they've been incarcerated since. Article is also poor quality, far too much proseline and details and not really a narrative approach of a quality article. --Masem (t) 01:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose WTF? This event was 20 years ago. The first thing the article needs to explain is why this is happening at all right now. And a quick glance didn't answer that question for me. A simple explanation for us ignorant masses please, before I can support anything being posted. HiLo48 (talk) 01:56, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @HiLo48 - Various leaders of al-Qaeda and their associates have been imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay since the early days of the Bush administration, on charges that they were the planners behind 9/11 alongside bin Laden. The U.S. government has brought up a criminal case against them and has purposely drawn it out so these terrorists have little to no chance of release. The death penalty or life in prison is what they were seeking, and there were also concerns that exculpatory evidence was being withheld. Today, indeed after 20+ years, a deal seems to have been reached where the terrorists have entered a guilty plea. It is the most significant movement in the case against the 9/11 terrorists in years. — That Coptic Guyping me! (talk) (contribs) 02:39, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    User:That Coptic Guy Thanks for that explanation. I'd suggest that some of what you've written there needs to be right up front in the article this nomination is based on. This is a global encyclopaedia, and a lot of readers will be like me, quite unaware of that background information. HiLo48 (talk) 03:23, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment — The linked article unquestionably needs more work. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 05:05, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Moussa Dadis Camara

Article: Moussa Dadis Camara (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Former President of Guinea Moussa Dadis Camara is found guilty of crimes against humanity. (Post)
News source(s): [1]
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The article looks to be well sourced. It has a outdated tag, though I'm not sure this is really necessary. Gödel2200 (talk) 17:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support fairly notable Ion.want.uu (talk) 18:49, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support as per Ion.want.uu, news from Africa rarely reach western audiences, and debatabaly, it is just as significant as highly visible events, such as the recent assassination of Ismail Haniyeh. Article needs some more work, though. Viva Nicolás (talk) 23:21, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support, notable Personisinsterest (talk) 23:47, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose on quality, article still needs plenty of work. Among other issues, there is a tag that has been there for almost 10 years asking for an update on the massacre that the former president is responsible for. — That Coptic Guyping me! (talk) (contribs) 01:55, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support on notability as per above. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 04:53, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Killing of Ismail Haniyeh

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Article: Killing of Ismail Haniyeh (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Ismail Haniyeh, the leader of Hamas, is killed in Tehran. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Ismail Haniyeh, the political leader of Hamas, is assassinated in Tehran.
News source(s): The New York Times
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  • Wait Lets get some more detail and flesh out the article. Right now we don't know much at all. It's also worth noting that today/tonight Israel is believed to have killed a senior military commander of Hezbollah in Beirut. Kind of reminds me of the last 10 minutes of The Godfather when all of the family's accounts are settled. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:59, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Zero need for a separate death article, unless the actual operation that took him down is well documented. Save for a couple of tags, the main bio article is ready to go. (And this is pending confirmation that seems up in the air right now. And to add once more, if true, clearly notable and ITN appropriate beyond the current ongoings) --Masem (t) 04:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support Confirmed by Iranian sources, which are likely to be biased more towards Haniyeh and in favor of reporting him alive, but that is not the case. Apart from the legitimacy of this assassination, I strongly disagree with Masem in this regard and believe this should have a standalone article aswell as this marks the highest killing of a Hamas official/leader since the Israel-Hamas war started on October 7 and since the killing of Saleh al Arouri in January. Although it's very early right now to say anything about the killing, I believe as more time passes, more information will eventually be revealed as this is a huge event. Worst case scenario, if the killing is so poorly documented, I still believe it should have a standalone section in some article somewhere. Haniyeh has also held numerous positions other than just leading Hamas. TwistedAxe [contact] 04:27, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Unlike Killing of Osama bin Laden, where there is a great deal of discussion of the specific operation as well as the past attempts to kill him, all that is in the present article is 50% reaction material, 25% background, and the rest speculation as to the actual event. This is not how we write event articles, but we certainly can present the death as part of the biographical article. --Masem (t) 12:00, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Right, but I believe we’re still in the early stages and clearing the fog of war. If the dust settles and the assassination is still poorly documented, I’d say we put it under the Death section definitely. If, however, enough information is presented, I’d say we definitely keep the standalone article. TwistedAxe [contact] 14:17, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      It's not unreasonable to have kept the details in both the bio article as well as at least one of the overarching ongoing articles about this Gaza conflict, particularly the latter because it provides the necessarily context of the larger picture. And then if extensive details of the actual Assassination emerge later then create the standalone. But this reverse way encourages bad splits as the potential of POV forks, as well as poor quality articles in trying to isolate the event from the larger picture without clearly knowing if that split makes sense. This type of approach is contrary to NOTNEWS and doesn't make for high quality ITN material that we are supposed to feature. Masem (t) 14:27, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality: Article still needs a lot more work in order to qualify for ITN. More information is also needed on the assassination. Support once all these issues have been addressed. Tofusaurus (talk) 04:31, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait - article is still developing/too short, and fog of war is still very much in effect w/ regards to exactly what happened (airstrike vs “raid,” official claims of responsibility, etc). Pretty much all that’s clearly confirmed at this moment is that he was assassinated in the first place. The Kip (contribs) 04:39, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support, per TwistedAxe. The article should be "Assassination of Ismail Haniyeh".--Dr-Taher (talk) 04:48, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support ITN worthy, but wait until more reporting comes in, then we need to add the cause of death to the blurb because the current one is too short Afif Brika1 (talk) 05:06, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Assassination of Ismail Haniyeh is just one small section of Ismail Haniyeh that was split out into its own stub for some reason. If this were fixed, then the main article would just need a little proseline clean up before it's ready. It's also developing a list of WP:INDISCRIMINATE trivia in the "responses" section as these articles often do, so that's another barrier. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 05:31, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on the basis of it being a notable event. Kurtis (talk) 05:48, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per above This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 06:37, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on notability, huge development. Shadow4dark (talk) 07:47, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support altblurb to specify that Haniyeh was the group's political leader rather than military leader. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 09:03, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, This is an important point to mention. Dr-Taher (talk) 09:13, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. ToadetteEdit! 10:29, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. On notability. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 10:35, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support on notability Personisinsterest (talk) 10:51, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, can we get a picture of him in here? Personisinsterest (talk) 11:57, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How come no votes for Oppose as part of ongoing? QueensanditsCrazy (talk) 08:46, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Robert Fellowes, Baron Fellowes

Article: Robert Fellowes, Baron Fellowes (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3] [4]
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Private secretary to Elizabeth II in the 1990s and brother-in-law of Diana, Princess of Wales. Walco1 (talk) 15:17, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 30

July 30, 2024 (2024-07-30) (Tuesday)

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RD: Onyeka Onwenu

Article: Onyeka Onwenu (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [5]
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nigerian singer-songwriter and actress. 240F:7A:6253:1:D057:E125:D731:507A (talk) 06:56, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2024 Wayanad landslides

Article: 2024 Wayanad landslides (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 185 people die as a result of 2024 Wayanad landslides in Wayanad, India. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Landslides in Wayanad, India kill at least 185 people.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The deadliest landslides in Kerala history kill at least 185 in Wayanad.
News source(s): https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c51y7k2y7v1o
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These landslides got international media attention. Pachu Kannan (talk) 15:38, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

also, altblurb 2 Personisinsterest (talk) 11:24, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Venezuela protests

Article: 2024 Venezuelan protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Protests erupt in Venezuela against the Maduro government, after his victory in the 2024 elections that was widely seen as fraudulent. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Venezuela widespread protests erupt as the official 2024 election results are contested.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Widespread protests erupt after Nicolás Maduro is declared the winner of Venezuela's 2024 presidential election amid allegations of electoral fraud.
Alternative blurb III: ​ At least 19 people are killed during widespread protests in Venezuela after Nicolás Maduro claims to have won the 2024 presidential election amid allegations of electoral fraud.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ Protests erupt after Nicolás Maduro is declared the winner of Venezuela's 2024 presidential election
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This should probably be combined with the blurb below, but I think the protests are only becoming larger and larger, and are now international news. Article is making good progress. Libertad! PrecariousWorlds (talk) 10:37, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support: This would obviously be better than a blurb only about Maduro's win. Article is small but is expanding. Prodrummer619 (talk) 10:51, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Ready) RD: William Calley

Article: William Calley (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American war criminal. Only man convicted in the My Lai Massacre. He died on April 28th but his death was only just reported. Article is in decent shape. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:53, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support! He was the only one convicted in this important event. 109.43.48.31 (talk) 13:28, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We'll post anyone important enough to have a Wikipedia page; we only assess article quality here. Bremps... 15:05, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 29

July 29, 2024 (2024-07-29) (Monday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

  • At least two people are killed and as many as 100 others are injured when a passenger train carrying 800 people collides with a Kamaz truck near Volgograd, Russia, and partially derails. (Al Arabiya)

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports

RD: Chino XL

Article: Chino XL (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Rolling Stone, Variety
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American rapper and actor. 240F:7A:6253:1:FD24:8B6B:DCD3:55B5 (talk) 21:33, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Robert Banas

Article: Robert Banas (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hollywood Reporter
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American dancer and actor. 240F:7A:6253:1:FD24:8B6B:DCD3:55B5 (talk) 21:33, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Deadpool & Wolverine

A consensus to post this will not develop. Too niche. Not sure if we posted the last Avengers movie when it broke the overall record. Closing now. --Tone 13:18, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Deadpool & Wolverine (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Deadpool & Wolverine, starring Ryan Reynolds (pictured), breaks box office records for an R-rated movie in its opening weekend (Post)
News source(s): CNN, France24, Hollywood Reporter,LA Times, NYT, Straits Times, Variety
Credits:

Article updated

This has been a hit with our readers too as the top read article for several straight days now, beating the Olympics, the elections and the rest. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:03, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose ITN is not for these types of news. First of all, we do not post News items just because they are the most read one, that goes here. Second, R-rating is just a US specific rating and a large of readers probably do not know about it and therefore this record holds little value to them. Lastly, it is only the 6th largest opening in the US overall and around 12th biggest worldwide opening for any movie, so hardly a groundbreaking record. PrinceofPunjabTALK 11:07, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Not the type of business news we post, and to state this yet again, we do not use page views as a metric of whether we should post at ITN in the first place. --Masem (t) 11:57, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per PrinceofPunjab. Estreyeria (talk) 13:08, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Prince of Punjab. This isn't the overall record, which is inevitably broken due to inflation. This is like saying there is a new tallest building in the world...well, the tallest that Americans under 17 can enter with adult supervision. Unknown Temptation (talk) 13:11, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

New UNESCO World Heritage Sites

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Article: List of World Heritage Sites by year of inscription#2024 (46th session) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The World Heritage Committee in New Delhi selected 24 new sites for the global List of World Heritage Sites, with the Schwerin Castle in Germany (pictured) among them. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ 24 new sites were selected for the global List of World Heritage Sites during the 46th session in New Delhi, India.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The World Heritage Committee designates 24 new UNESCO World Heritage Sites during its 46th session in New Delhi, India (Schwerin Castle in Germany pictured).
News source(s): UNESCO DW EuroNews
Credits:

Article updated

The newly selected UNESCO World Heritage Sites are normally featured in the News here. Example can be left out or swapped, I think it is usually a wonderful addition. -- Horst-schlaemma (talk) 09:25, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, if it is just about that very detail, how about just changing it in the article and we're good. :) -- Horst-schlaemma (talk) 09:59, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Venezuelan presidential election

Article: 2024 Venezuelan presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Nicolás Maduro is announced as the winner of the 2024 Venezuelan presidential election. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Venezuela, incumbent President Nicolás Maduro is declared the winner of the presidential election.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Incumbent Nicolás Maduro is re-elected President of Venezuela for a third term.
Alternative blurb III: ​ After disputed presidential elections, protests erupt in Venezuela.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ Protests erupt after Nicolás Maduro is declared the winner of Venezuela's 2024 presidential election
News source(s): NY Times BBC News
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nicolás Maduro has been announced the winner of the 2024 election. -- RockstoneSend me a message! 04:42, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not Ready As noted by others, the article has a number of issues that will require some work before this can be posted. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:35, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support ALTBLURB with "declared winner" language used for dubious elections This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 04:59, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support alt disappointing. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 05:19, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb language used and oppose for citations needed - I caution users to tame their chauvinism. Western media is very obviously biased on this matter. For decades, the West has sought regime change in this nation and election after election we see the West attempt to discredit elections in socialist countries in the Global South. It is frankly disgusting that Wikipedia is joining in this rather than critically assessing our sources for reliability. How many times must we watch as the US manufactures consent for a coup before we realize that we can't trust most US sources on this issue. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 05:32, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Really? The second citation is British.... not American. --RockstoneSend me a message! 05:39, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are funny if you think that makes difference. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 05:58, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
With all due respect, it's outrageous to refer to the BBC as a "US source", and it makes you look very bad. Honestly, your entire comment is outrageous and doesn't serve to help the project in any manner. You should consider striking it. --RockstoneSend me a message! 15:30, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Regardless of the authenticity of the election, these discussion pages are not meant to be used to petty bickering. We will use the source deemed most reliable, and whether or not it fits with your stance on the subject, be it politically or as an external perspective/opinion, is not to be taken into consideration. Let's do our best not to become Reddit, thank you. Daneellis114 (talk) 23:26, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah best to close the discussion here PrecariousWorlds (talk) 10:31, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For about the 50th time in the last month to various users, personal commentary doesn’t help this project. The Kip (contribs) 06:39, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This was objectively a sham election by all reliable accounts apart from the Maduro regime, stop pushing POV. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 11:50, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have any independent sources to back up your entire comment? If not, you yourself are guilty of pushing a pro-Maduro POV. Tube·of·Light 14:06, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The BBC is not a reliable source but the Venezuelan regime somehow is PrecariousWorlds (talk) 18:56, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Um, hate to be that guy, but countering chauvinism or "chauvinism" with what presents as chauvinism itself isn't helpful. DarkSide830 (talk) 15:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support altblurb with "declared" due to the dispute. Article seems well written and cited. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 05:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support the original blurb unless evidence of fraud emerges (which it may, of course) PtolemyXV (talk) 05:48, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support altblurb, it’s not just “the west” disputing the results but the opposition themselves. The Kip (contribs) 06:38, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The proposed blurbs don't adequately convey the phony nature of the process. And the article is in a poor state with a lot of rambling, citations needed and tense errors. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:08, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Repeatedly has been shown tht we're not going to try to call out sham elections or their ilk at ITN. We can use language how we say who won that implies that it was not democratic win, like we have done for the last Russian election, but it becomes a NPOV problem to suggest in the ITN blurb if the election is a sham; that's a topic left for the article in question. — Masem (t) 11:59, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      That's nonsense because numerous editors have supported the alt blurb as a standard signal to the reader that the election was not free and fair. So, we do regularly call out such sham elections in that way but it's too subtle -- we should be more direct rather than dropping hints.
      In any case, there are still the quality issues which are not resolved.
      Andrew🐉(talk) 20:21, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose article has two cn tags, two orange tags, one yellow tag and result section is empty. Therefore, it is no way near ready to be posted. I support the Alt Blurb when it is ready to be psoted. PrinceofPunjabTALK 11:13, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, elections for the executive where there is no change in office are now also ITNR, per this discussion. Gödel2200 (talk) 20:24, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose There are multiple orange tags, and the endorsements section is missing a lot of citations. Will support the alt when ready. Gödel2200 (talk) 20:37, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait The National Electoral Council (Venezuela) has been offline and/or has a DNS problem since at least the last day or so, although some archived snapshots e.g. 28 July are available. As of the 2010s and 2020s, the electoral results coordinated by any national election commission, except for the internet-poorest countries, are normally published in full detail on the commission's website. Whether the reason for the website non-availability is attacks such as DDOS or tech incompetence or a desire to hide the results, the fact is that by the current standards of a national election, the results in the sense of open data are not yet published. There is currently only a "believe-us" XXth century style "result" announced by the CNE so far. The heads of many American states, such as Gabriel Boric, are putting pressure on the CNE to get the full results published. Waiting for a more serious release of the full results would make sense. Boud (talk) 21:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait Along the lines of what Boud said, in lay terms, the election result hasn't actually been called, Maduro has just said he's won. The opposition has not conceded, there are no results to show (some apparently have fully gone missing) - the last update from even Maduro's own commission is that vote counts will be coming soon. Kingsif (talk) 21:12, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose For now, as the results themselves are still unavailable in the article. Granted, the results aren't gonna be super shocking. Dyaquna (talk) 22:35, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Reliable sources are essentially unanimous in describing the election as neither free or fair. Therefore, Maduro being declared the winner is about as surprising as "water is wet". KlayCax (talk) 00:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait There should be something, however it ought to mention the dispute. This is major news.
Metallurgist (talk) 01:38, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Update of blurb needed: While waiting for the CNE to announce the full results, the 2024 Venezuelan protests (probably not the best name, since there were probably other protests in Venezuela in 2024) are already 11 kb of source text just 5 hours after being created, so should be integrated into the blurb. Things could change fast depending on if/when the CNE publishes the full results or continues to refuse to publish them, so further updates might be needed. Boud (talk) 01:47, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Suggest nominating the protests as their own blurb. If the photo can be confirmed as free, it's also really good to go in the box. Kingsif (talk) 02:20, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose because the election is dispute, protests are ongoing, and there are multiple orange tags. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 02:59, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose unless the blurb states clearly that it was rigged and that it sparked massive protests. Plus, the article has certain problems. If these are solved, take this one as a support. --Bedivere (talk) 06:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support altblurb2. That thing with words like "announced" or "declared" in dubious elections simply doesn't work, and I don't think our readers get the difference that a group of editors here wants to convey. Simply use "re-elected" and let the readers visit the article to find out the details. All winners are "announced" or "declared" no matter if the election was free and fair.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:58, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Most readers don't click through to the article. The main page gets about 5 million views daily but the number of readers that click though ITN links is only about 10K -- a tiny fraction. So, most readers will glance at or skim the main page and will just see the headline and the grinning picture of the tyrant/dictator/president-for-life. So, we should make the headline plain and clear if we run one because that's all most readers will see. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Why do you think that "announced" or "declared" makes it clear that the winner is a dictator or that the election was not free and fair? Why not extend the blurb to say that "X was re-elected in a dubious election"?--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 09:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The result is disputed; for example, see Venezuelan opposition says it has proof its candidate defeated President Maduro in disputed election. In such circumstances of claim and counter-claim, it's not our job to pick a winner. All we might say currently is that there is unrest following a disputed election. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:18, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree that the protests should be the main story now. My point was that the words "announced" or "declared" wouldn't make any difference. If we post that Maduro was "announced winner", we practically accept the announcement of the National Electoral Council, so we practically side with them and pick Maduro as winner. Note that the opposition rejects outright what the National Electoral Council announced as a result of the election.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 14:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Since the focus is now on protests, I suggest alternative blurb:
After disputed presidential elections, protests erupt in Venezuela. BilboBeggins (talk) 12:40, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is a good blurb, but the article quality for the protests is not there yet. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:07, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The sources do not currently show which is more notable: the election or the protests, so putting both in bold would be better justified. Boud (talk) 13:15, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with this, but both articles currently are not of sufficient quality. So if one is improved before the other, we could just make that the target to start out. Gödel2200 (talk) 14:11, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 28

July 28, 2024 (2024-07-28) (Sunday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Politics and elections

Sports

RD: Alma Powell

Article: Alma Powell (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American audiologist. 240F:7A:6253:1:113:A09D:C0B3:2CBF (talk) 06:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Francine Pascal

Article: Francine Pascal (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): People, New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American author and creator of Sweet Valley High series. 240F:7A:6253:1:113:A09D:C0B3:2CBF (talk) 06:18, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Article is orange tagged for expansion and is a bit short. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 11:34, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I've expanded the article out a bit; I don't think there are any unsourced statements anymore, but it's definitely still on the shorter side. I would add that the "sources" section, which seems to awkwardly combine a bibliography and a reference list, does not seem appropriate for the article in its current form and the bibliography side of it is basically unsourced, as it has no ISBNs or anything of the like.--Sunshineisles2 (talk) 14:23, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Doug Creek

Article: Doug Creek (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [6]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American baseball player. 240F:7A:6253:1:7072:B26A:4473:10DD (talk) 06:56, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose article has only three sources, needs more citations. PrinceofPunjabTALK 11:16, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Reyes Moronta

Article: Reyes Moronta (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [7]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

– Muboshgu (talk) 04:19, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support article is in a good shape. PrinceofPunjabTALK 11:17, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2024 All-Ireland Senior Football Championship final

Article: 2024 All-Ireland Senior Football Championship final (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Gaelic football, the All-Ireland Senior Football Championship concludes with Armagh defeating Galway in the final. (Post)
News source(s): (The Irish Times)
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Goevenonme (talk) 00:40, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support article looks good enough to be posted. PrinceofPunjabTALK 11:18, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - good article, significant sporting event.

IrishRealistic (talk) 18:34, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: John Anderson

Article: John Anderson (television personality) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

UK Gladiators referee and British Olympic coach. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 21:32, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support meets bare minimum requirement. PrinceofPunjabTALK 11:19, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Prince Michael of Greece and Denmark

Article: Prince Michael of Greece and Denmark (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sky News, The Independent, and others.
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

He was a member of the former Greek royal family, a writer, a historian, a first cousin of Prince Philip and the last surviving great-grandson of Christian IX. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 22:44, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wait List of works section needs more sources. PrinceofPunjabTALK 11:21, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 27

July 27, 2024 (2024-07-27) (Saturday)

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Arts and culture

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

Law and crime

  • Eight people are killed and five others are injured when a vehicle hits pedestrians in Changsha, Hunan, China. The perpetrator is arrested. (AP)

Sports

(Posted) RD: Murray Costello

Article: Murray Costello (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Hockey Canada NHL.com
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Canadian ice hockey player, executive, and administrator. Article looks fine. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 17:53, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support, article is good quality
Personisinsterest (talk) 15:52, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Edna O'Brien

Proposed image
Article: Edna O'Brien (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Irish Times
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Appears to be well-sourced. Mooonswimmer 18:34, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ready it is of great quality, marking it ready. PrinceofPunjabTALK 11:23, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Most of the photos that you mentioned were for political leaders where the nomination fell under ITNR (though the ones for Biden and Trump were not), so it is not at all surprising that they were featured. And all of them were for blurbs, so by virtue of them being blurbed, of course their picture will be featured. Unless you can show that female leaders are being deliberately left out of ITN, the claim that this has anything to do with systemic bias is completely unfounded. Gödel2200 (talk) 17:11, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Majdal Shams attack

Article: Majdal Shams attack (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A rocket attack allegedly launched by Hezbollah on the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights kills at least 14 civilians. (Post)
News source(s): BBCTimes of IsraelHindustan TimesPress TV IranReutersRussia TodayAl Jazeera
Credits:

Article updated

Current official death toll is at 12 as of time of writing. Although the scale of this attack is dwarfed daily by IDF bombardments of Gaza, I propose that we cover this particular story because:

  • It is the single deadliest attack on Israeli civilians since October 7.[8]
  • It is the single deadliest spillover incident of the war since inception.
  • The attack was carried out in the context of a conflict with Hezbollah, which would make it separate from the Israel-Gaza war itself.
  • Attacks by other regional entities (Iran, the Houthis, and Hezbollah itself) have not previously resulted in this number of casualties during the conflict.
  • The article is expanded, well-written, and of a suitable length, with no citation needed tags.

For the above reasons, I hereby nominate this entry.

Wait - Posting this may be a problem as pointed out above, as it naturally invites comparisons to civilian casualties in Gaza (though this could be considered more notable as there are less Israeli civilian deaths, it's still a POV problem). I think it's best to wait to see what the Israeli response is; if this escalates the conflict with Hezbollah it's definitely enough to post, but until then Oppose PrecariousWorlds (talk) 12:37, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Wolfgang Rihm

Article: Wolfgang Rihm (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Yahoo
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Needs work, maybe the "works" section could be split out? Natg 19 (talk) 23:57, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Grimes2 (talk) 08:04, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 26

July 26, 2024 (2024-07-26) (Friday)

Armed conflicts and attacks


Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Sports

RD: Lionel Elika Fatupaito

Article: Lionel Elika Fatupaito (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Post, New Strait Times, CBS News, ESPN, Daily Mail, The New York Times, The Independent, The Times of India
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

RD: Janet Andrewartha

Article: Janet Andrewartha (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [9], [10]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Happily888 (talk) 07:44, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose unsourced Filmography. PrinceofPunjabTALK 11:26, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 France railway arson attacks

Article: 2024 France railway arson attacks (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A series of arson attacks damages several lines of the French high-speed railway system. (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

pbp 20:44, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support - I think it's best to have this as a separate blurb as the attacks haven't been linked to the Olympics (though they likely were related). In the news PrecariousWorlds (talk) 21:04, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Notable-ish but no one was killed or injured and I don't think it's significant enough to be posted
Personisinsterest (talk) 22:35, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. There is no reason to be linking to a useless, poorly written article about a few arsons when we have an actual article about the transportation that needs to be expanded. The whole point of Wikipedia is to provide summarized information in context, not to rewrite blow-by-blow accounts of each random thing separately every time you refresh the website of the New York Times. Will switch to support if this is redone as an update to Wikipedia content to reflect current events as ITN posts are supposed to be. And as a side note, it would be great if the closer could disregard any !votes about casualties since that's not a metric of significance on Wikipedia. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 23:03, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If we're talking disregarding votes, maybe yours should be disregarded because you're using it as a soapbox to complain about the condition of a different article pbp 03:42, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Then you may wish to reread what I said. The only time I mentioned another article was when I suggested a merge target for this one. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 04:19, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This is not some random accident like a landslide in the boondocks. It's multiple synchronised attacks targeting significant infrastructure of a major nation. It is thus comparable with the attacks on the Nord Stream pipelines or the 9-11 attacks in the US. It seems to have been scheduled for the start of the Olympics but its impact goes beyond that as this is the start of the French holiday season when much of the country plans to travel. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:52, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is thus comparable with the attacks on the Nord Stream pipelines or the 9-11 attacks in the US. What? An attack with no casualties is comparable to an attack with thousands of casualties that led to the War on terror? Gödel2200 (talk) 12:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you're referring to Ethiopia when you say "the boondocks", that doesn't make what's happening there insignificant Dyaquna (talk) 15:27, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The point is that the sabotage was not a "random thing" or Act of God. It was a coordinated attack in multiple locations. As these things go, it's quite unusual for there to be a synchronised attack in so many locations. 9-11 targeted three locations while this attack targeted five. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:24, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support halting services for over 800K people feels quite notable to me. This is quite a large attack, regardless of the lack of casualties. I understand the Crowdstrike incident is on a way grander scale than this will ever be, but as it is still an event that caused a halting on travel systems, we didn't stop that from being posted from a lack of deaths or injuries. CaptainGalaxy 23:04, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The attack has no casualties, and the article does not indicate that the impact is incredibly severe. In fact, the only 'impact' listed in the impact section was the British PM having to change his plans. Also the article is barely more than a stub. Gödel2200 (talk) 23:52, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support It's a common lead headline today: "Olympics sabotaged ... Hunt for Olympic saboteurs ... Far Left suspected ...". The disruption will continue throughout the weekend and its impact is countrywide -- much greater than some single accident such as the plane crash in Nepal. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:27, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Per Andrew and CaptainGalaxy. Centuries123 (talk) 10:50, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Notable for sure, picked up a lot of coverage initially but doesn't rise to meet many of the secondary principles listed in WP:ITNSIGNIF in my opinion. Kcmastrpc (talk) 12:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per above. PrinceofPunjabTALK 11:27, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Olympic Opening Ceremony

Article: 2024 Summer Olympics (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Paris, the opening ceremony of the 2024 Summer Olympics begins. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Paris, the 2024 Summer Olympics open after an arson attack on French railways.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In Paris, the 2024 Summer Olympics open.
Alternative blurb III: ​ In Paris, the 2024 Summer Olympics open.
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Opening ceremony isn't technically done yet, but I figure it's better to get a little ahead now that it's well underway. DecafPotato (talk) 18:16, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support but wait. This is certainly a event to report on, but we should wait until the grammatical errors get resolved. MetaTalks (talk) 20:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
its technically "open" after Macron declared it open. MetaTalks (talk) 21:12, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support, notable and the articles are fine Personisinsterest (talk) 22:37, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support alternate blurb, if the arson attacks were connected to the Olympics Dyaquna (talk) 23:35, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I just skimmed a bit of the article and it was nowhere near ready as I immediately noticed several tense and grammatical errors. The article seems to be full of plans which may or may not have actually gone to schedule and it has no reaction or reception section to provide an assessment of what actually happened. Also, as noted below, the news coverage today has focussed on security and sabotage issues such as 2024 France railway arson attack and that seems more interesting. The appalling weather might warrant some attention though. For example,

    Unfortunate that the pre filmed parts of this ceremony were done on a bright, clear day. It is making the jumps from live to video sections jarring in person and presumably on TV too. Rain hammering down now. Worried about the athletes! Three hours of this on a roofless boat and some of them are sleeveless. Going to be a shame to cancel the 100m final because the field was decimated by an outbreak of the sniffles.

I'm still watching and was quite curious about the way they presented "Imagine". I find that we have a remarkably detailed article about piano burning and didn't realise that was a thing. Was that supposed to be the Olympic flame?
And now there's a ghostly horse rider. Curiouser and curiouser... Andrew🐉(talk) 18:50, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I agree with Andrew that to post this without noting the arson attack just prior would be a problem. But that can be fixed in the blurb. However, the opening ceremony article is nowhere close for what we've seen in the past. If we are going to post that arson article, that also needs expansion. Finally, should the quality improvements delay posting the opening ceremony for some time, we still try to go ahead and post the Olympics to ongoing, along with Chronological summary of the 2024 Summer Olympics, but that latter article is mostly unsourced at this point, which is not good either. --Masem (t) 18:47, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Masem and @Andrew Davidson, I've added an alt blurb unbolding the opening ceremony article and adding the arson attack, would that be better? DecafPotato (talk) 19:07, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    No, the event isn't over yet, we've yet to get the reactions and full news coverage and so it's too soon to finalise a blurb. And my objection was to the quality of the article not the blurb. The nominator hasn't made a single edit to the nominated article and so should be disqualified for a false start. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:31, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm rather neutral on whether or not the arson needs to be included in the blurb- it's not as if this was a terrorist attack that led to deaths- but either way, the article is in pretty bad shape and is nowhere near ready to be posted. -- Kicking222 (talk) 19:14, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose mentioning the arson. The connection to the Games seems dubious at best. DarkSide830 (talk) 19:35, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support and altblurb2 - proposed new blurb without the arson attack, and without bolding the opening ceremony. This post should be about the start of the Paris Olympics. They've started now. Let's post. Main article is fine. The opening ceremony article can be filled up separately, but is not crucial - nobody participates in the Olympics just for the opening ceremony.Khuft (talk) 20:05, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support alt2 Oppose placing the arson attack in the blurb, as it does not seem to have had any effects on the opening ceremony. Currently the article for the opening ceremony has major sourcing issues, but we can instead link to the overall article for the olympics. Gödel2200 (talk) 20:06, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support in principle, but oppose including the arson attacks in the blurb. The opening ceremony took place without any disruptions caused by those attacks (the rain made bigger problems than the attacks). That event should’ve been relevant had it directly affected this one, which is clearly not the case.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 21:43, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support ALT2 but oppose on quality. I don't personally believe the arson attacks to be overly significant, and their effects on the games has been minimal outside of transportation delays. All of the said, the Opening Ceremony article is in brutal shape - multiple orange tags and nowhere near enough prose on the events. The Kip (contribs) 22:37, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support ALT2 and put it in ongoing when it reaches the bottom. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 02:37, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are quite a few sections of tables that lack a single reference. Stephen 03:55, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I did actually look at this but saw that there are one or more references for those tables in the prose ahead of them (like with the venue section). It would be better if those sources could be repeated in the table header or otherwise some position closer to the tables to be clear where the info is coming from, but the sourcing is there. — Masem (t) 12:51, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Alt3 Opening article has too many problems so let's just not post it. Kcmastrpc (talk) 12:49, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality issues (notwithstanding ITNR). Too many CN tags on it. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 12:53, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • support it is hugely IN THE NEWS. not to mention the controversy over the transgender stuff, but that's an aside. then the chronology can be in the ongoing.Sportsnut24 (talk) 20:23, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support, we've listed the Olympics and world cup several times in the past and there's plenty of coverage of it. No reason not to list it Desfuria (talk) 23:31, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I will note that I have already added the Olympics as an ongoing on a temporary basis (as that article is fine, see the ongoing nom below) while there's still debate on the blurb and the quality of the opening ceremonies (which has always been posted in the past, and has always been of high quality, I don't know why this is not at that point by this case). Should we post a blurb, then the ongoing should be temporarily removed then. --Masem (t) 23:46, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question What needs doing at 2024 Summer Olympics opening ceremony to make it post-able? Kingsif (talk) 03:35, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The orange tags need to get resolved. Many statements and sections are missing sources. Natg 19 (talk) 03:44, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It pains me to say but Oppose. It should be ready by now, but surprisingly isn't. PrinceofPunjabTALK 11:28, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Altblurb3 - let's not mention the Opening Ceremony then As it seems we won't be able to solve the issues with the opening ceremony article before this gets stale (and, let's face it, it's Monday now - the opening ceremony was on Friday), why not post just the Summer Olympics article itself? That one seems fine, as it's already featured on Ongoing. Khuft (talk) 15:36, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, this should've been posted but its too late now Personisinsterest (talk) 15:53, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 25

July 25, 2024 (2024-07-25) (Thursday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

(Haaretz)

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Science and technology

RD: Vikramabahu Karunaratne

Article: Vikramabahu Karunaratne (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Sri Lankan politician, activist and scientist. Titanciwikitalk/contrib 0:58, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

RD: Martin Indyk

Article: Martin Indyk (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Mooonswimmer 22:10, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose three cn tags. PrinceofPunjabTALK 11:30, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

pertinent to the ongoing news stuff. i dunno if you mention that on these things.Sportsnut24 (talk) 20:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be happy to give a few pointers if you clarify what it is you're confused about. Bremps... 16:52, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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