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*'''Support''' Incredibly significant news in the world. While [[WP:NOTNEWS]] is in action, you cannot deny how important this is... [[User:Fakescientist8000|Fakescientist8000]] ([[User talk:Fakescientist8000|talk]]) 03:39, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Incredibly significant news in the world. While [[WP:NOTNEWS]] is in action, you cannot deny how important this is... [[User:Fakescientist8000|Fakescientist8000]] ([[User talk:Fakescientist8000|talk]]) 03:39, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
:* '''Comment''' with all these supports, and only 2 opposes (one of which was on technical grounds instead of notability grounds), I'm fairly sure consensus has developed. [[User:Juxlos|Juxlos]] ([[User talk:Juxlos|talk]]) 03:58, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
:* '''Comment''' with all these supports, and only 2 opposes (one of which was on technical grounds instead of notability grounds), I'm fairly sure consensus has developed. [[User:Juxlos|Juxlos]] ([[User talk:Juxlos|talk]]) 03:58, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
*Marking as '''Ready'''. [[Special:Contributions/64.231.158.212|64.231.158.212]] ([[User talk:64.231.158.212|talk]]) 04:37, 22 February 2022 (UTC)


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February 22

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RD: Joan Croll

Article: Joan Croll (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sydney Morning Herald
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Oronsay (talk) 02:08, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

February 21

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(Ready) Separatist republics

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Articles: International recognition of the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic (talk · history · tag) and 2021–2022 Russo-Ukrainian crisis (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Government of Russia officially recognized separatist Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The Government of Russia officially recognizes the separatist Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics in eastern Ukraine, and orders Russian forces to enter the territory.
Alternative blurb II: Russia officially recognizes the breakaway self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk republics in eastern Ukraine, and orders its military forces to enter their claimed territory.
Alternative blurb III: ​ In an escalation of the Russo-Ukrainian crisis, Russia officially recognizes the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk republics in eastern Ukraine, and orders its military forces to enter their claimed territory.
News source(s): Reuters, AP, BBC, Guardian, DW, France24, PBS
Credits:

 Andrei (talk) 21:46, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No kidding! Those who don't know history are condemned to repeat it. – Sca (talk) 00:36, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Paul Farmer

Article: Paul Farmer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Miami Herald, NPR
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Was confirmed by Partners in Health; am sure more mainstream news services will add stories shortly and will add those to the nom. updated with news link. Article needs some work with referencing. Have resolved referencing issues. SpencerT•C 17:28, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Mekapati Goutham Reddy

Article: Mekapati Goutham Reddy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hindu
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: C class and sourced — DaxServer (t · c) 11:17, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

February 20

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(Posted) RD: Franz Grave

Article: Franz Grave (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Diocese of Essen
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Auxiliary bishop of Essen, working for Latin America and structural change in Ruhr area - no article yet Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:58, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Shakuntala Choudhary

Article: Shakuntala Choudhary (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): India Today
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian social worker. Have not had a chance to work the article. Will get to it later tonight. Ktin (talk) 16:51, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Jamal Edwards

Article: Jamal Edwards (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Spicy Veggie (talk) 22:33, 20 February 2022

(Posted) 2022 Winter Olympics closing ceremony

Articles: 2022 Winter Olympics (talk · history · tag) and 2022 Winter Olympics closing ceremony (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The 2022 Winter Olympics conclude, with Norway finishing on top of the medal table. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The 2022 Winter Olympics conclude, with Norway winning a record number of 16 gold medals to top the medal table.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The 2022 Winter Olympics conclude in Beijing, China.
Alternative blurb III: ​ The 2022 Winter Olympics conclude in Beijing
Credits:

Article needs updating
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: The closing ceremony starts in about 20 minutes. I'm unsure about the image of the Beijing National Stadium, which was already posted with the blurb on the opening ceremony. --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:38, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose The blurbs link to the opening ceremony, not the closing ceremony. Clumsy copying. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:47, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    That’s a very lame reason to oppose an ITNR item.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 13:14, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    The nomination was made before the event had taken place (and the page was started 6 years ago!). Even now, the first section, Theme and Concept, is written in the future tense, has no source and makes a vague prediction that "somewhere during the closing ceremony will re-create a moment...". The blurb errors indicate that the article requires much careful and close checking to avoid such blatant errors. The main point is the Olympics is over but, as ITN has been showing it as ongoing for some time now, it does not seem necessary to do more than remove that entry. And that has been done. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:07, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    That's still not a reason to oppose the ITNR. If the article can be improved in time, it still qualifies as ITNR. Just that it has a long way to go and if its not improved in a few days, I think it would be pointless to post it with the ongoing already removed. --Masem (t) 17:14, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Take a look at the second section, which is just one sentence, "Dancers lightened the emblem as Frank Mortenson's brand new record for the 2022 Olympics, "It's a Lovely Day Tomorrow" written originally in 1938 by Irving Berlin, was played." Again this has no source and I can't find any evidence that it's actually true. The word "lightened" is ungrammatical. And Mortenson is a red link now. If the song was written in 1938, it's not "brand new". There's no quality here; not even close. And the ceremony didn't make any flag-waving point about Norway did it? From what I saw, it was Italy that got most of the attention as the next host country. If we blurb about Norway then that would be misrepresenting what happened at the ceremony. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:36, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    That's why as noted below, if we do post, the blurb should just be "The Olmypics closed" and not recognize any record. And yes, the target article is woefully out of shape for posting. No one is disagreeing on that. But if it got into shape, it is an ITNR to be posted. --Masem (t) 17:44, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I always strive for a brief blurb without mentioning the most successful nation but without any success so far. I, therefore, proposed three different blurbs this time so that everyone is happy and no objections are made on those grounds.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 18:01, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Note that the ceremony in 2018 was not posted due to similar quality issues. There is therefore no guarantee that this will ever meet an acceptable level of quality. As the event was mostly a formality, I reckon that we should move on. The talk has been that Putin has been waiting for the Olympics to end, as the starting gun for his Ukrainian adventure. We may soon have some real news... Andrew🐉(talk) 18:29, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I wonder where do you get that information from and why he didn't wait until the end of the previous meeting in Beijing for his military adventure along the Black Sea.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 21:06, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    So, the day after the Olympics ends, Putin holds an extraordinary council meeting to agree to violate the Minsk treaty by tearing away two more chunks of Ukrainian territory. This timetable was planned in advance with Macron and Scholz. That's what's in the news now. Q.E.D. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:56, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Checking back on this on the following day, I see that the first two sections are unchanged; still no sources and even the howler of "lightened" is still there. There's a picture though so I checked that out. It appears to be a copyright violation of this! Tsk. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:04, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support alt blurb, record should be in blurb. Kingsif (talk) 14:12, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose mentioning the medal count, this is not a competition in how many medals each nation gets (at least nominally). I've now removed the link from Ongoing. --Tone 14:55, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment According to Article 6 in Charter 1 of the Olympic Charter, which states "The Olympic Games are competitions between athletes in individual or team events and not between countries.", we shouldn't highlight the achievement of the most successful nation. However, those supporting it have always formed a majority in such discussions and we regularly post an extended blurb, so it'd have been unwise for practical reasons not to propose an extended blurb from the beginning. As for the record, we posted the previous record of 14 gold medals set by Canada at the 2010 Winter Olympics.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 15:10, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support in principle but oppose both blurbs, and any blurb listing country with the most medals. We had this debate for the Summer Games last year, and we don't post the country with the most medals, as it is inconsistent with the Olympic charter quoted above. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:06, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • You know what, perhaps it's more probable to get the most successful nation out of the blurb this time, given that it's not the US and people probably won't fight to get it there in order to show the superiority of their country.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 21:14, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

February 19

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(Posted) RD: Joey Beauchamp

Article: Joey Beauchamp (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: English footballer. Article is in good shape. Black Kite (talk) 11:32, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Emile Francis

Article: Emile Francis (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times; NHL.com; Associated Press
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 09:41, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Ongoing removal: COVID-19 pandemic

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Article: COVID-19 pandemic (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item removal (Post)
Nominator's comments: Instead of having the general COVID-19 pandemic article at ongoing, I think instead we should list specific events that happened during the pandemic like the Canada truck protest. The COVID pandemic article is not updated as often these days. It should be removed and replaced with major events associated with the pandemic. Interstellarity (talk) 20:33, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
'Extremely strong support' = support. – Sca (talk) 13:12, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

RD: Jean-Luc Brunel

Article: Jean-Luc Brunel (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Disgraced talent scout, Epstein associate, suicide in prison. Kafoxe (talk) 17:35, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Tom Veitch

Article: Tom Veitch (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Gizmodo GamesRadar CBR BleedingCool
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: notable comics author, particularly for Dark Empire jonas (talk) 03:20, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

February 18

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  • Canada convoy protest
    • The Ottawa Police Service makes over 100 arrests, including the arrest of protest organizer Pat King. Police accuse protestors of assaulting officers with one person being arrested after allegedly throwing a bicycle at a horse with a mounted officer on it. (CBC News) (MSN)

Sports

(Decision required) Storm Eunice

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Article: Storm Eunice (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Europe, 17 people are killed in Storm Eunice (pictured). (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Europe, fifteen people are killed in Storm Eunice (pictured). A windspeed of 122 miles per hour (196 km/h) is the highest ever recorded in England.
News source(s): BBC, BBC South
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Significant European Windstorm, causing much disruption in Ireland, UK, France, Belgium, Netherlands and Germany Mjroots (talk) 18:44, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • I don't see the need, honestly and respectfully. I would understand if it was the highest wind gust ever recorded in Europe (although I wouldn't support it either), but not when we are talking about a specific country when it's a natural disaster that affects many more nations. Also I don't recall seeing other blurbs about storms mentioning these types of records. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 19:23, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
On Sunday BBC reported 16 storm fatalities, DW 12. – Sca (talk) 13:19, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Boris Nevzorov

Article: Boris Nevzorov (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): TASS
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Russian actor, died of COVID-19. Kirill C1 (talk) 15:51, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Jim Hagedorn

Article: Jim Hagedorn (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NBC News
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Incumbent U.S. representative, cancer. Kafoxe (talk) 15:51, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

February 17

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  • Panama-flagged car carrier MV Felicity Ace is abandoned approximately 90 nautical miles southwest of the Azores following a severe fire onboard. The ship's entire 22-man crew safely evacuates using lifeboats. (CNN)

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(Posted) RD: Surajit Sengupta

Article: Surajit Sengupta (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): India Today
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian soccer (football) player. I am working on edits to the article. Edits done. Article is a reasonable start class biography. Meets hygiene expectations for homepage / RD. In the meantime if someone has the powers to mark the article patrolled, I would appreciate that since I do not have those rights. Seems patrolled now. Thanks. Ktin (talk) 05:56, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Martin Tolchin

Article: Martin Tolchin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American political correspondent for The New York Times. Co-founder of The Hill and PoliticoThriley (talk) 02:55, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • This wikibio with only 270 words of readable prose seems too stubby for ITN. 40 years at the New York Times summarized with a two-sentence paragraph? Then one sentence each for founding The Hill and Politico? Can more be written about his long career? --PFHLai (talk) 05:52, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Agree. – Sca (talk) 16:19, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as founder of Politico. SN54129 16:24, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I agree with PFHLai and Sca- for someone with such a long, illustrious career, we have very little detail in this article. As such, I don't think it meets the necessary article quality, as I don't think it meets Articles should be a minimally comprehensive overview of the subject, not omitting any major items. (it doesn't seem to be comprehensive at all). Joseph2302 (talk) 16:26, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

February 16

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(Posted) RD: Lorinda Cherry

Article: Lorinda Cherry (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): LWN.net, heise.de
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Bell Labs computer scientist who developed some of the original Unix utility programs. Death coverage is a bit thin, but the article has decent detail about her work. Joofjoof (talk) 01:33, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment we do not have an exact date of death in the article. However, that's not required; for procedural purposes the date the death was announced can suffice. And we no longer "sort by date of death" on the front page, so it certainly doesn't matter for that purpose. The article certainly could be better, but is probably good enough -- it is fully referenced. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 01:37, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: There are some quotes without context in the article, such as: "Cherry's work on approximate parsing and Aho's on fast pattern search turned out to be just the right foundation for an English style-appraiser suggested by Professor William Vesterman of Rutgers. That in turn was elaborated into Writer's Workbench by Nina MacDonald and others in the Human Performance Engineering Department."[5] Who said this quote? Should be paraphrased into the article not quoted directly. SpencerT•C 02:34, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted. AGF'ing LWN.net is RS. --PFHLai (talk) 22:51, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Jack Smethurst

Article: Jack Smethurst (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Sky, MEN
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: British actor best known for playing a racist shop steward in the controversial but popular TV sitcom Love Thy Neighbour Martinevans123 (talk) 19:12, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Gail Halvorsen

Article: Gail Halvorsen (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Salt Lake Tribune
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Known as the "Berlin Candy Bomber" for his involvement in Operation Little Vittles following World War II; Congressional Gold Medal recipient, among other honors Ryan Reeder (talk) 18:09, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Chennaveera Kanavi

Article: Chennaveera Kanavi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Indian Express
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian Kannada language poet. Article requires significant work. But, it is worth investing time imo. I will get to it later tonight. Edits done. Rater.js says the article is B-class, but, I think it might be a C-class biography. Meets hygiene expectations for homepage / RD and good to go. Ktin (talk) 17:33, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Yahgan language becomes extinct/dead

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Article: Yahgan language (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Yahgan language becomes extinct following the death of Cristina Calderón as its last native speaker. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The Yahgan language becomes dead following the death of Cristina Calderón as its last native speaker.
News source(s): France 24
Credits:
Nominator's comments: This nomination highlights the language extinction and is an alternative for the blurb discussion below. I don't remember that we've ever posted a language extinction, and the fact it was a language isolate makes it more significant. --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 09:58, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality as the Yahgan language is orange-tagged with multiple issues, because it needs a lot more sourcing. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:11, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The Yaghan language isn't an extinct language, but rather is a dead language (as defined in the article) as of Calderon's death. An extinct language is a language with no longer any speakers, and given that there are people who are speaking Yaghan thanks to Calderon's tireless work, including Calderon's daughters, however not as a their native language, thus making it a dead language instead. The article itself does not refer to the language, nor even the culture, as dead, due to Calderon's hard work in preserving the Yagan language and cultural traditions. Ornithoptera (talk) 10:12, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • That also raises the issue of the France24 article listed does not say that the language is extinct following her death, so that raises an additional concern. The conclusion is garnered from something that is indirectly gleaned from reading between the lines rather than something explicitly stated by the news article being used as its source. Ornithoptera (talk) 10:16, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral - It's a bit of a wobbly nomination given there are no previous examples to this. Personally I would like to support the nomination, but on the basis that there hasn't been any similar ITNs about language-extinctions, I'm abstaining the vote until a consensus has been generally reached. Cheers, PenangLion (talk) 10:14, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The category Category:Languages extinct in the 21st century shows that more than 50 languages have gone extinct in just the last twenty years. It does not appear to be as unique of an event even when accounting for the isolate bit. Moreover the article has maintenance tags all over. Gotitbro (talk) 10:31, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - Orange-tagged article, and I really don't see the lasting significance of this. Kafoxe (talk) 14:16, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Unclear if it's accurate as written. One anthropologist said, The younger generation know the language but not to the same degree that Cristina does,[4] Perhaps it's more nuanced, like she was the last full-blooded, fluent speaker—but that seems too narrow to blurb. RIP.
Preceding comment posted by Bagumba. – Sca (talk) 16:46, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Ornithoptera, Gotitbro, and Bagumba. Dead rather than extinct takes some of the air out of this, in my opinion, and personally this is kind of like posting a species extinction. They, sadly, happen to a frequent degree, and just the acknowledgement of this is what is news. And, like a species extinction, this is somewhat hypothetical, as in Calderón is the last known native speaker. DarkSide830 (talk) 16:04, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Per not that rare and Calderón being posted to RD. Kingsif (talk) 16:26, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose – According to our article, 20 years ago there were 1,685 Yaghan in Chile, a total that by 2017 had declined a bit. Apparently all, or nearly all, have gone to Spanish as their mother tongue. Since that process has been under way for many years, this announcement does not seem to have notable significance or impact, though it may be of interest to ethnologists. Also, not widely covered. – Sca (talk) 16:42, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • RD This is mostly a recent death. It's weak as a blurb because, currently, there's not much news coverage out there. There has been quite a bit of coverage of the language's fading status in recent years – see Atlas Obscura, for example. Of course, just listing the woman's name in RD doesn't provide any context or clue but that's a general failing of the current RD format. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:15, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support A language going extinct sounds like a pretty big deal. Hcoder3104☭ (💬) 00:18, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think, to respond to this, the species extinction comparison is a good one. When white rhinos go extinct, there will be lots of media and lots of people caring because white rhinos are big and beautiful, were pretty common, and humans are a cause of extinction. The language comparison would be French going extinct and a massacre being partially responsible. That would get posted. But lots of species go extinct quite regularly, actually, and when it is microbial life that few humans have ever witnessed, very isolated, and there were only about 1000 examples that just died by natural causes, nobody really cares. That is this. Kingsif (talk) 08:22, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted RD) RD/Blurb: Cristina Calderon

Article: Cristina Calderón (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Cristina Calderón, the last native speaker of the Yahgan language, dies at the age of 93. (Post)
News source(s): France 24
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Last known native speaker of the Yaghan language and last full-blooded Yaghan person, I have been updating and sourcing portions of the article that have been unsourced previously, should be relevant for RD. This is my first RD nomination so if I get something wrong just let me know! Ornithoptera (talk) 00:35, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Ongoing: Protests over responses to the COVID-19 pandemic

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Article: Protests over responses to the COVID-19 pandemic (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian, Reuters
Credits:
Nominator's comments: The Freedom Convoy has been nominated multiple times, being voted down each time (except for a pulled blurb). In these discussions, some have proposed an ongoing about protests over the pandemic. The main COVID article doesn't contain much about protests, and the section about it in the article only has a short few sentences and a link to the protest article. DadOfTheYear2022 (talk) 17:20, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Luigi De Magistris

Article: Luigi De Magistris (cardinal) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): L’Unione Sarda
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Italian Roman Catholic Cardinal, short but sufficient article for RD Josey Wales Parley 16:41, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

PFHLai taken care of now Josey Wales Parley 08:09, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the new footnotes there, Joseywales1961. This wikibio is now READY for RD to me. --PFHLai (talk) 08:25, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Dorce Gamalama

Article: Dorce Gamalama (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [6]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Nyanardsan (talk) 14:51, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Sandy Nelson

Article: Sandy Nelson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [7]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: 1960s hit drummer. Article seems well sourced with no major issues. peter sellers is my best friend 14:37, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Bappi Lahiri

Article: Bappi Lahiri (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian music composer. Ref issues for awards, discography. Death section is missing Sherenk1 (talk) 04:23, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2022 Petrópolis floods

Article: 2022 Petrópolis floods (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 146 people are killed by mudslides and floods in Petrópolis, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. (Post)
News source(s): DW, AP, BBC, Agência Brasil, R7
Credits:

 Nave do Conhecimento (talk) 19:15, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • This is probably better as a blurb as it appears to be damage and loss of life from the amount if rain over a short 3 hrs, not a prolonged period. Article needs expansion. --Masem (t) 19:38, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Change made. Nave do Conhecimento (talk) 20:45, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
PFHLai I'm not sure if this happens with US or UK outlets, but Brazilian news sites often update the same post/link with a different title. I had that problem while updating Murder of Moïse Mugenyi Kabagambe too. Tet (talk to me) 14:25, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, Tet, I have encountered cases where a news agency would update the contents of its online reports without changing the URL. However, when the death toll is part of the title and/or part of the URL, they will need new ones when there is an updated death toll. And then, sometimes, we have bad edits (example) where contents in our wikipages got changed without new source materials added as references to support the new info, producing citation errors that need to be fixed on sight. --PFHLai (talk) 14:40, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

February 15

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

Law and crime

Politics and elections


(Posted) RD: Peter Merseburger

Article: Peter Merseburger (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Prisma and others
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: influential German journalist, famous for tv controversies, correspondent from Washington, D.C. and London, biographer of Willy Brandt and others - and had no article until today Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:00, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Charles Juravinski

Article: Charles Juravinski (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC News; The Hamilton Spectator; Global News; McMaster University
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 09:43, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Ronald Lou-Poy

Article: Ronald Lou-Poy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Times Colonist (Victoria); University of Victoria
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Death announced on this date; date of death not specified. —Bloom6132 (talk) 04:59, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Former president of Honduras Juan Orlando Hernández arrested

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Article: Juan Orlando Hernández (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The former president of Honduras Juan Orlando Hernández, who was in office between 2014 and 2022, is arrested on a drug trafficking warrant after the US files a request formally for his extradition. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Honduran police arrest Juan Orlando Hernández, former president of the country between 2014 and 2022, on drug trafficking charges.
News source(s): teleSUR
Credits:
Nominator's comments: He was arrested on a Supreme Court warrant only a few weeks after he left office. Don't know if this should be posted now or we should wait until he is convicted or extradited to the US? Viva Nicolás (talk) 03:47, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: PJ O'Rourke

Article: P. J. O'Rourke (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [8], [9]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 21:39, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Deep Sidhu

Article: Deep Sidhu (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NDTV, India Today
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Start class and fully sourced Venkat TL (talk) 17:01, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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