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*'''Comment''' Walmart shouldn't be bolded as is doesn't even mention the deal. <small>[[User:GreatCaesarsGhost|ghost]]</small> 14:37, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' Walmart shouldn't be bolded as is doesn't even mention the deal. <small>[[User:GreatCaesarsGhost|ghost]]</small> 14:37, 9 May 2018 (UTC)


==== [Closed]LDS Church/Boy Scouts of America ====
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==== [Closed] No secret chambers in King Tuts tomb ====
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*'''Support''': This is a ITN worthy event. --[[User:Mhhossein|<span style="font-family:Aharoni"><span style="color:#002E63">M</span><span style="color:#2E5894">h</span><span style="color:#318CE7">hossein</span></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Mhhossein|<span style="color:#056608">'''talk'''</span>]]</sup> 13:08, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
*'''Support''': This is a ITN worthy event. --[[User:Mhhossein|<span style="font-family:Aharoni"><span style="color:#002E63">M</span><span style="color:#2E5894">h</span><span style="color:#318CE7">hossein</span></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Mhhossein|<span style="color:#056608">'''talk'''</span>]]</sup> 13:08, 9 May 2018 (UTC)


====[Posted] 2018 Kentucky Derby====
====(Posted) 2018 Kentucky Derby====
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May 9

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Realease of American prisoners in North Korea

Article: List of foreign nationals detained in North Korea (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: North Korea has freed three US citizens from prison, according to a tweet from US President Donald Trump. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Positive news. Sherenk1 (talk) 13:03, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - I think the ship has sailed at this point, but we really ought to make the North Korea diplomatic saga an ongoing event. The isolated events on their own really are not suitable for ITN, but the negotiation process as a whole is.--WaltCip (talk) 13:12, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
And I would HARDLY' consider a Trump tweet to be a reliable source.--WaltCip (talk) 13:12, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Walmart acquisition of Flipkart

Articles: Walmart (talk · history · tag) and Flipkart (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Walmart will pay about $16bn to take control of Flipkart, India's biggest online retailer, in a deal that puts it head to head with Amazon. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Walmart announces the acquisition of Flipkart for about $16 billion.
Alternative blurb II: Walmart announces its intention to acquire Flipkart for about $16 billion.
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Acquisition of India's biggest online retailer. Sherenk1 (talk) 12:03, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • I note that the Walmart article has nothing save for an infobox mention of this; also the "Supercneters" section has a few weak points of sourcing. --Masem (t) 14:20, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) LDS Church/Boy Scouts of America

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Article: Chartered organizations of the Boy Scouts of America (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has announced that it will end its sponsoring of Scout units on December 31, 2019. The Church is the oldest and largest sponsor of Scouting, beginning in 1913, and 37% of Scouting units and 18% of Scouts pertain to the Church (Post)
News source(s): A Joint Statement from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the Boy Scouts of America [1] WaPost Faux News Huffpo Fortune WaPo USA Today
Credits:
Nominator's comments: How big of news this is depends on how influential you perceive the two institutions to be, and I acknowledge some personal bias in this matter Ryan Reeder (talk) 13:56, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose no article, local politics. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:59, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please offer any news sources that indicate this is in the news. I will say this is a domestic story between two private entities, and long expected since the scouts started accepting gays and girls. There is no article either. 331dot (talk) 14:01, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I put in a news source for this, and reading it, it's a mutually agreed separation, and mostly related to values related to LBGT. I don't see anything that suggest this has a major impact on the Scouts (they weren't being financially supported by the Mormons), and for the Mormons, they simply are ending their church's participating but do not restrict their youth to still be a part of the Scouts. Not significant news. --Masem (t) 14:03, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The radical changes being introduced into the organization might be good DYK material. But this is not of sufficient importance for ITN. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:13, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose it's in the news, but there is no update to consider. There is a whole "Please do not" above regarding "oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one."--LaserLegs (talk) 14:54, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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(Pulled) RD: George Deukmejian

Article: George Deukmejian (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): LA Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: A number of statements need to be sourced, but beyond that, nominating in good faith. --PootisHeavy (talk) 00:14, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Sorry I missed that one. 331dot (talk) 09:43, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. Not suggesting anything besides good faith here; it's unreasonable for the admin to check every source anyway. There just happened to be problems with the first source I checked (and then the second, third, fourth...) Vanamonde (talk) 09:46, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • (edit conflict) Another reference where we're using Deukmejian's campaign manager as a source to present things about his campaign in Wikipedia's voice...Deukmejian is a well-known politician, I'm sure we can find better. Vanamonde (talk) 09:46, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment With more obits coming out I am able to find sources that closely corresponds with the content of the article. If there’s more issues provide the ref number so I could find stronger sources. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 11:51, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • @TDKR Chicago 101: Well, if a source doesn't support certain content it shouldn't be posted there in the first place, should it? I've removed some sources already, so you just need to replace those (you've done some of that already, so thanks); I've flagged another on the talk page, and will try to check some more later. Vanamonde (talk) 12:06, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Armenia PM

Article: Nikol Pashinyan (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Following weeks of protests, Nikol Pashinyan is elected prime minister of Armenia. (Post)
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Not ITNR but seems like a culmination fo protests. That round to soros. Lihaas (talk) 19:32, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

USA/JCPOA

Article: Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The United States of America withdraws from the JCPOA (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ United States withdraws from the Iran deal
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Just announced, bu t this will be all over the news shortly. I imagine For Min's all over are writing PR statements already. Welcome to World War III Lihaas (talk) 18:37, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Approve - but I'd recommend linking to the United States withdraw from Iran Deal Wikipedia article instead. FlowerRoad (talk) 18:45, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That article does not need to exist. Not yet anyways.Lihaas (talk) 18:49, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It's no different from United States withdrawal from the Paris Agreement. In international relations and long-term, it's certainly more notable. Businesses and other governments are still fighting climate change, this gutted the Iran Deal. FlowerRoad (talk) 19:10, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That article can really use copy editing. The reaction section is, uh, something else. Juxlos (talk) 20:26, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Oppose solely on the orange NPOV tag near the bottom of the article. That has to go before this could be posted. Otherwise this looks like a solid and well sourced article. Get rid of the tag and I will happily support. On a side note I concur that we should use plain language for the link vice the acronym. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:48, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed the tag from the section "Continued Criticism", because the last discussion on that part was in 2016, and, as far as I can tell, the article seems to have settled into a consensus version in that section. OtterAM (talk) 02:30, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Approve It's in the news, has been talked about for quite a while, one of President Trump's campaign focuses.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Pmradu (talkcontribs) 18:53, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: The blurb is technically wrong. "Trump described the move as a “withdrawal,” which is technically incorrect because the agreement, known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), is not a treaty. The US can only abide by or violate the terms of the Iran accord." [2].--Mhhossein talk 18:54, 8 May 2018 (UTC)*[reply]
  • Support someone forked the article into something smaller and more suitable. altblurb proposed --LaserLegs (talk) 19:01, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support original blurb but strongly oppose the first altblurb and new article as a standalone. It's basically being used as a coatrack to attack Trump, even though Trump was the one squarely behind finding a way for the US to exit this. --Masem (t) 19:09, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
What a strange world we live in that factual statements about trump, including fact checking his objective lies, are considered "attacks". Very strange indeed. --LaserLegs (talk) 20:38, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Agree totally.Lihaas (talk) 19:34, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, hold off for a little bit. There's a merger proposal to address the content fork. DARTHBOTTO talkcont 19:55, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'd suggest we ignore the minor content fork, and link to the main article: JCPOA. OtterAM (talk) 19:58, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: This is big news in almost all the world press, and Wikipedia has a well developed article about it. I support option 2 because the acronym "JCPOA" is a little obscure. This is the right time to post this item because it has become finalized. OtterAM (talk) 19:56, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - monumental news, well worth posting. However, only the main target article is fit for posting at present, and the content forks should be avoided in my view. Stormy clouds (talk) 20:05, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose stub. Take away the inevitable "reactions" section and you have basically one or two useful sentences. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:05, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
What? Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action is a stub?Lihaas (talk) 20:10, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No, United States withdrawal from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action is. Move on. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:20, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Alternative Blurb 2: United States withdraws from the Iran deal.
This version has the advantage that there is no linking to a stub and no acronyms are used. OtterAM (talk) 20:07, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support ... in principle, but strongly suggest title of target article be changed. To say that Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action is "a little obscure" is today's ultra-understatement. It makes no sense whatever to the general reader, who's been hearing about the "Iran nuclear deal" for three years, and who's never heard of the "JCPOA." Pure bureaucratic obfuscation.
As to the article itself, it must include reactions, among them the joint pledge of Germany, France and the UK to stay in the agreement. Sca (talk) 20:15, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest we just ignore the two stubs, and not let the existence of those two stubs sabotage the inclusion of this article in "In the News". The main Wikipedia article is long and complicated, but it's also probably the clearest explanation of the JCPOA avaliable online. I think it would be an embarrassment if Wikipedia doesn't mention this event, when its dominating headlines across the world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OtterAM (talkcontribs) 23:16, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Präsident Donald Trump (Bild) hat angekündigt, dass sich die USA aus dem Atomabkommen mit dem Iran zurückziehen werden.Sca (talk) 13:01, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Maurane

Article: Maurane (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Belgian singer. Lots of referencing issues. Sherenk1 (talk) 08:17, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

United Arab Emirates takeover of Socotra

Article: United Arab Emirates takeover of Socotra (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ UAE forces occupy the Yemeni island of Socotra (Post)
Alternative blurb: An invasion by United Arab Emirates forces takes over the Yemeni island of Socotra.
News source(s): WaPost Jerusalem Post
Credits:

 Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 04:19, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support seems pretty obvious, this kind of territorial change (if confirmed) does not happen often. Banedon (talk) 05:28, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - International implications on this unauthorized seizure of sovereign territory. I have created an altblurb with proper links. Jusdafax (talk) 06:00, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Takeover of a territory is a very big deal that merits inclusion.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:40, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support Once again, for a venue to show off our best work, this is barely enough text to qualify for "good enough". Since this is such a newsworthy event, one would presume that there was more information than this about it somewhere. If so, I am at a loss at why someone would want to avoid putting it in the article. --Jayron32 12:40, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Because there isn't, and in our frantic effort to post "important" stories to the MP of Wikipedia the community is tolerating a very low bar for quality, basically rehashing the one or two wire stories about the subject dooming the article to forever-stub status when actual news media moves on. --LaserLegs (talk) 12:44, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Presumably there are stories in the UAE press or Socotra press? Why would you adamently refuse to use those? --Jayron32 16:23, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: if this was really a military invasion / annexation surely there would be more widespread news coverage? Other than the Washington Post article linked above (which is actually a republished AP wire story), I'm not seeing any coverage in outlets beyond the region. If only local press are picking this up, is it really as big as the headline sounds? I don't know the answer but it seems suspicious. Modest Genius talk 16:17, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    All press is local, and saying "this is only covered by local press" just means "it isn't covered by my local press". Local press is not unreliable by default, and I see no reason to refuse to use a source simply because it isn't based in the U.S. or Britain. --Jayron32 16:25, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes and no. As noted by others below, many of those local/regional sources have close links to governments which are involved in the Yemeni civil war, or support opposing sides in Syria, or have long-standing hostilities with one side or another (e.g. the Qatar blockade). Bias is a potential issue, so I would prefer some outside media analysis. There's no reason why that has to be from the US or UK (I never mentioned them), but the current sourcing does worry me. Modest Genius talk 10:32, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I'm not an expert on this at all, but I'm still a little unclear about the significance of this event. Firstly, there are an awful lot of foreign troops in Yemen anyway. The Saudi led intervention hasn't been declared as an 'annexation'. So how precisely is this different? Also, many of the sources in the article are from Al Jazeera, which is run by the Qatari government, which obviously doesn't have great relations with the UAE now, so this might not be an entirely reliable source. BubbleEngineer (talk) 16:40, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Just seems to be a minor incident in a protracted civil war, like Somalia and Syria. We'd need better independent sourcing. Andrew D. (talk) 16:55, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Seems a factoid rather than a properly considered event within a clear wider context. The content doesn't feel very neutral either and a wider selection of sourcing from a variety of different outlets would be necessary to support this tone as NPOV. Spartaz Humbug! 17:10, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose unless the UAE states they are formally annexing the territory. 331dot (talk) 17:12, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait until there is an official UAE statement on this. If it's "we are occupying Yemen's territory to xxx" then oppose, but if they invoke the "99-year lease" thing or the like then support. Juxlos (talk) 20:08, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose you would have waited for an official announcement from the Soviets when they invaded Hungary in 1956, huh? Abductive (reasoning) 20:32, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well, yeah. If we label it in 1956 as "The Soviet Union invaded and took over Hungary" instead of "The Soviet Union invades Hungary in response to a revolution" that would be inaccurate. Juxlos (talk) 20:44, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, major development, one for the history books. Abductive (reasoning) 20:32, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Socotra is one of the few territories that has not switched hands during the war...until now. 172.98.154.119 (talk) 23:57, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. There is insufficient evidence to support the claim that this is a "takeover". The main source, Al Jazeera, is decidedly pro-Qatari and anti-Emirati, so it can't be trusted for neutrality. All other sources indicate an "increased presence" of UAE forces on the island, and "protests" against the presence. I concur with Juxlos, we should wait for an official UAE statement (or even one from Yemen). 184.151.37.158 (talk) 00:27, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Oppose I think we do have an official UAE statement:[4] This is an active war zone with proxy considerations, and we should hardly expect the UAE to following Yemen's (literal) marching orders. If this is an annexation, it's ITN-worthy. But I'd put that at 70-30 right now, and we don't do retractions here; we wait for facts. ghost 11:39, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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RD: Miki Muster

Article: Miki Muster (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: A pioneer in the field of animation and comics in Slovenia. The article was rather short but I believe I have sufficiently expanded it now. Language could probably need some polishing. One of the sources is in English as well. --Tone 22:23, 8 May 2018 (UTC) Tone 22:23, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Snooker world championship

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Article: 2018 World Snooker Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Mark Williams defeats John Higgins to win the World Snooker Championship. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Plenty of images of the magnificent Williams available too. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:59, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kudos to Thomas Kirk Larsen and Lee Vilenski who seem to have contributed the majority of the prose. Modest Genius talk 12:59, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Thomas has been pretty awesome, and copyedited a lot of my entries, but it's the sourcing that is important. The competition was really a great watch. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 13:36, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Longest ever gap between successive championships, I think. "The Welsh Potty machine" or whatever it is might still have currency, but "Sprog" was at least 20 years ago? Martinevans123 (talk) 10:37, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as tags seem to have been fixed.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 12:24, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support this is what an article about a sporting event should look like, with sufficient prose, well referenced, etc. A few tables are nice, but where an article is nothing but tables, that's a problem. Someone obviously thought this was important enough to write about, and did. It should be held up as a model for how to properly write a sports article. --Jayron32 12:42, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • (edit conflict)Comment Due to having a lot of edits on the article in question, I won't vote, but it should be noted, that not only did Williams not qualify last season, he'd won 3 ranking tournaments this season, and hadn't won a single one since 2011 before that, and had considered retiring before the start of this season. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 13:36, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) No secret chambers in King Tuts tomb

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Article: KV62 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Sonar tests disprove the theory that hidden chambers may have been present in Tutankhamun's tomb. (Post)
News source(s): BBC AP (via NBC)
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: This is clearly unusual as an ITN, as proof of something that doesn't exist thus keeps the "status quo". However, since this theory popped up in 2015, there's been rather interest in the possibility of these chambers (which some suggested may even had been Nefertiti). This result (which Egypt's ministry has accepted as definitive) ends that theory. The article has one secton related to thefts that is unsourced, unfortunately. Masem (t) 04:02, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Would you count that as an Oppose? Python Dan (talk) 14:06, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Ahsan Iqbal

Article: Ahsan Iqbal (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Pakistan's Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal is shot and injured in an assassination attempt. (Post)
News source(s): BCC CNN NYT
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Article updated

Nominator's comments: Article updated and well sourced. Auntie Agni (talk) 08:35, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Khaled Mohieddin

Article: Khaled Mohieddin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Arab News
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article updated and well sourced --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:40, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lebanon election

Article: Lebanese general election, 2018 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ After 9 years and postponement, Lebanon votes in a new parliament. (Post)
Credits:

Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: While it is ITNR, this is further important due to the Syria situation. Article has a tag and result should be out in about 12 or so hours. –Lihaas (talk) 05:49, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2018 Kentucky Derby

Article: 2018 Kentucky Derby (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Justify wins the Kentucky Derby at Churchill Downs, US, ridden by jockey Mike E. Smith. (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: ITN/R event and breaking 136-year record. Alternative blurb to reflect the record-breaking feat is welcome. –Ammarpad (talk) 02:54, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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(Closed) Quetta mine collapse

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Article: No article specified
Blurb: ​ Twin coal mine collapses near Quetta, Pakistan kill at least 23. (Post)
News source(s): BBC CNN
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Nominator's comments: I can't find any article. Auntie Agni (talk) 09:31, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) Launch of InSight/MarCO

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Articles: InSight (talk · history · tag) and Mars Cube One (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The InSight spacecraft (pictured) and its companion MarCO cubesats are successfully launched towards the planet Mars. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The InSight spacecraft (pictured) is successfully launched towards Mars, alongside its companion MarCO cubesats.
News source(s): The New York Times, BBC News, The Guardian
Credits:

 – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 12:51, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Question: Would it be better to add that the spacecraft were launched "by NASA"? I would love to see that addition because it would give NASA credit for paying for the launch. Brian Everlasting (talk) 01:38, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Brian Everlasting: NASA funded it, Lockheed Martin built it, the United Launch Alliance launched it, and the Jet Propulsion Laboratory runs and operates it. So, there is a lot of people you exclude when you solely credit it to just NASA. – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 03:23, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Succinct, neutral blurb is all that's needed. We are not advertising for them, why should we argue on who to credit?. –Ammarpad (talk)

Russian protests

Article: 2017–2018 Russian protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ 5 May started protests in Russian. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

 UkrainianCossack (talk) 10:07, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) North Korean time zone change

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Article: Time in North Korea (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ After the inter-Korean summit, North Korea changes its time zone to match that of South Korea. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ After the inter-Korean summit, North Korea changes its time zone from UTC+08:30 to UTC+09:00, matching that of South Korea.
News source(s): BBC
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Nominator's comments: I think any permanent change (not DST of course) in time zone is a significant event. Perhaps we can update the previous blurb about the summit. EternalNomad (talk) 00:49, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) Albert Pujols' 3000th career hit

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Articles: Albert Pujols (talk · history · tag) and 3000 hit club (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Albert Pujols becomes the 32nd Major League Baseball player to record 3,000 hits (Post)
News source(s): CBS NewsSI.com Yahoo! Sports
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Nominator's comments: Significant baseball accomplishment and Pujols is a GA. pbp 13:47, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Nigeria mosque bombing

Article: 2018 Mubi suicide bombings (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A Boko Haram bombing at a mosque kills 86 people in Nigeria. (Post)
News source(s): [5]
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Nominator's comments: The bombing happened a few days ago, massive fatalities even for a country like Nigeria. 108.214.192.62 (talk) 04:51, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Doina Cornea

Article: Doina Cornea (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Washington Post
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article updated and well sourced --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 22:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Kīlauea eruption

Article: Kīlauea (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The eruption of volcano Kīlauea in Hawaii forces the evacuation of thousands people. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The eruption of volcano Kīlauea in Hawaii forces the evacuation of nearly two thousand people.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The eruption of volcano Kīlauea, followed by an earthquake, in Hawaii forces the evacuation of nearly two thousand people.
News source(s): CNN, Guardian
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Article updated

Nominator's comments: The article is GA. Update could be expanded further. Brandmeistertalk 10:15, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Nobel Prize in Literature 2018 postponed

Article: Nobel Prize in Literature (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Following sexual assault allegations concerning the organisation, the Swedish Academy postpones the 2018 award of the Nobel Prize in Literature for a year. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The 2018 Nobel Prize in Literature is postponed until 2019
Alternative blurb II: ​ Following sexual assault allegations concerning the Swedish Academy, the 2018 Nobel Prize in Literature is postponed until 2019
Alternative blurb III: ​ The Swedish Academy postpones the 2018 Nobel Prize in Literature after several members of the Academy leaves in protest.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ Following numerous resignations, the Swedish Academy postpones the 2018 Nobel Prize in Literature until 2019
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: This seems an important events surrounding an item that would have been ITNR. Nobel_Prize_in_Literature#Controversies_about_Swedish_Academy_board_members has a decent write-up of these events. LukeSurl t c 09:22, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support Ha, you beat me to this nom by a whisker. :) Significant enough and it is in the news now even if the prize wasn't due until November. Not sure if this should be posted now or then when people will be looking for it. Suggested more concise blurb, the first sounds too much like a juicy tabloid headline to me. cart-Talk 09:42, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - per historic decision by a significant institution. I suggest using the org blurb.BabbaQ (talk) 09:44, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • BabbaQ, I was edit conflicted while I was trying to add that the original blurb is also sort of incorrect since it is the Nobel Comity that ultimately awards the prize, the Academy is just one part of that comity, and the comity has postponed the prize because of the trouble in the Academy. cart-Talk 09:50, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Complicated" is an understatement, the whole thing is called Paradise Hotel here in Sweden. A short neutral blurb is best since there are numerous things leading up to this postponing; we can't single out one of them. cart-Talk 11:14, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • A problem with "resignations" in the blurb is "Technically, members are appointed for life to the Swedish Academy and cannot resign, although they can refuse to take part". -- KTC (talk) 12:15, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Have those that "resigned" prior to the rules change resigned formally since the rules change, or are they still technically refuse to take part so the seat couldn't be filled? -- KTC (talk) 12:48, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Article is now tweaked for better reading, thanks for pointing it out. The new rule is only two days old and everything is still a mess. One member has formally handed in her resignation, the rest haven't got around to it yet, no seats are held with the intention of hindering new members. No seats have been re-filled. This current uncertainty and mess is why I think the blurb should be short and neutral as in the first altblurb. cart-Talk 12:55, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
As W.carter - being in Sweden and able to read Swedish - almost certainly has a better understanding of this complex scenario than the rest of us, I think it is prudent to defer to them on which blurb(s) are adequate here. --LukeSurl t c 13:03, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Apparently the first time the prize has ever been withheld due to a scandal (the only previous occasions were due to war time or a lack of suitable candidates.) My preference would be altblurb 2.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 12:44, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • As a Swede I think blurb 3 or 4 is the most appropriate as the postponing has more reasons for happening than the sexual harassment scandal. BabbaQ (talk) 13:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • You are right that the resignation and inactive members due to the crisis is the legal reason the Academy can't work at the moment. The sexual harassment scandal was one of the things that triggered the crisis, but so was the suspicion of financial crime now under investigation by the Swedish Economic Crime Authority as well as long-held bad blood between members, active and inactive. But of course it is the sex scandal that the media picks up on. cart-Talk 13:20, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurbs 3/4, but oppose on quality There are a few quality and BLP concerns of the update to this. Notably, per BBC that the accused member had denied the charges but this is not included. The update should focus less on what the accusations are, only that they were given and that board members wanted to leave in protest, something the King granted on May 2. Nothing about the accusations have been proven so we have to be very careful there. --Masem (t) 13:27, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think it is the wrong blurb that has been posted. The issue is wider than that particular issue and blurb 3 and 4 would have been more appropriate. Anyway its good it got posted.BabbaQ (talk) 14:06, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • If one of those blurbs were chosen, we must first figure out if we are talking about real resignations or simply leaving while still formally being members until their resignations have been handed in. How many chair are now leagally empty? Since not even the Academy is clear about this, how can we be. cart-Talk 14:23, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • For ITN's purpose, it doesn't matter how many chairs are empty or are pending, just that as a whole of the remaining voting members, they voted to postpone their selection until next year. --Masem (t) 14:34, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I saw the item on the main page just now. The blurb didn't explain matter well and so I clicked through. The article doesn't explain the matter well either – there's nothing at all in the lead about this. Reading other sites to understand what's happening, the issue is that the committee doesn't have a quorum because many members are boycotting it and some have been doing so since 1989! The organisation is clearly a shambles and, while there's talk of what they are going to do to sort it out, they haven't actually done it yet and so we shouldn't be predicting that it will all be done by 2019. Per WP:CRYSTAL, more work is needed to present this uncertainty more clearly. Andrew D. (talk) 14:44, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Ex-VW CEO indicted

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Articles: Martin Winterkorn (talk · history · tag) and Volkswagen emissions scandal (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Ex-Volkswagen CEO Martin Winterkorn is indicted on fraud and conspiracy charges in the USA over the Volkswagen emissions scandal (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Former CEO Martin Winterkorn is indicted in the USA over the Volkswagen emissions scandal
News source(s): New York TimesReutersBBC
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: This international scandal has been ongoing since 2015, but the criminal indictment of a major corporation CEO is highly unusual, newsworthy and notable. Jusdafax (talk) 01:21, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I maintain the Winterkorn indictment is of such an unusual nature per the references that it precludes your “consensus” which many here, including me, have never signed off on. Jusdafax (talk) 02:47, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I think what you are saying is that you believe an IAR exception to our customary approach is justified. I will think about it. This is unusual in the extreme. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:54, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Ad Orientem, that’s a more diplomatic statement which I endorse. I can’t recall a similar criminal charge being filed against a top-rank corporate CEO before. Another notability factor is the statement by the U.S. Attorney General which I have added to the target article. I am continuing to expand both articles. Jusdafax (talk) 03:00, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose We don't usually post indictments outside of world leaders due to potential BLP issues, because we don't presume guilty before they are proved innocent. --Masem (t) 03:22, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I don’t agree that this is a BLP issue. It’s sourced information and news around the world. Per Ad Orientem, this is not your usual criminal indictment. There are also major economic considerations for Volkswagen itself. Jusdafax (talk) 03:26, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I should clarify that in his article or in the Dieselgate article, this is not a BLP issue. But to put it in a high priority space like ITN, that's a bit different. Front page should be more careful as to these types of charges which have yet to result in convictions. Additionally, he's the ex-CEO, and thus has little effect on the company proper. --Masem (t) 04:11, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Volkswagen has already admitted guilt in the case, and Winterkorn has resigned over it. The referenced articles state that the indictment is likely to have financial and legal effects, and calls into question the corporate culture that led to the emissions cheating. The charges are filed at the highest legal system of the U.S. Government. It’s on front pages all over the world. We are re-reporting a high-profile, high-level, unique indictment that has among other things substantial financial considerations. Your concerns do you credit, but I strongly disagree with them. This is important, groundbreaking news. In my view it can’t be compared to, say, a murder case or pedestrian scandal. The ITN precedent is the 2015 FIFA corruption case which of is similar criminal magnitude in the sporting world. And yes, the FIFA indictments were ITN blurbs. Jusdafax (talk) 04:34, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose –Probably may support when he is actually convicted and more update on the conviction exist in the article. Mere indiction of former CEO doesn't rise to level of significance required at ITN. Comparing this with FIFA case does shows exactly why this shouldn't be on ITN too. FIFA is the world's preeminent body of the World most popular sports. You can't even compare notability of convoluted FIFA case with this scant news of retired business executive being indicted. –Ammarpad (talk) 07:14, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There’s a difference between retirement and being forced to leave due to exposure. Yeah, over ten million illegal vehicles and an 8 billion dollar settlement for starters as a result of this CEO’s actions, which he has taken responsibility for. But in your world, charges of breathtaking corporate corruption is “scant” news... depends on what you believe is important, eh? Jusdafax (talk) 08:28, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That’s the kind of snark that lost you your adminship. Jusdafax (talk) 19:27, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yawn, change the record. As a regular and one with considerable experience, you should know by now that we simply don't post "accusations". This is sadly a complete waste of time. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:31, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yawn yourself. Take your further quibbles to the Talk page. Jusdafax (talk) 19:57, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There are no quibbles. You're the one that started badgering me and gravedancing. Check the mirror. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:15, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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RD: Afonso Dhlakama

Article: Afonso Dhlakama (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Long-time leader of the Mozambican rebel group RENAMOEternalNomad (talk) 22:00, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) India dust storm

Article: 2018 Indian dust storm (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 110 people have died and scores more injured in fierce dust storms that hit the northern Indian states of Uttar Pradesh and Rajasthan. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Article has just been created so lots of improvement needed. As per BBC article: "Dust storms are common in this part of India during summer but loss of life on this scale is unusual." Sherenk1 (talk) 10:58, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment I have worked to expand the article enough to re-open this. The death toll is continuing to rise and there's fears more deaths are coming from additional storms. --Masem (t) 15:16, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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(Closed) WASP-107b

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Article: WASP-107b (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Helium has been detected for the first time in the atmosphere of an exoplanet by scientists observing WASP-107b. (Post)
News source(s): (Space) (Nature)
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Nominator's comments: First time a exoplanet was discovered with Helium LovelyGirl7 talk 18:51, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Bill Torrey

Article: Bill Torrey (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Associated Press
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 19:58, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Dick Edell

Article: Dick Edell (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [7]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American lacrosse coach. Article appears fully referenced. LukeSurl t c 14:07, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Tony Cucchiara

Article: Tony Cucchiara (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [8] (it)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Italian folk singer. Short but referenced biography. LukeSurl t c 14:03, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) David Goodall is on his way to Switzerland to end his life

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Article: David Goodall (botanist) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: David Goodall is on his way to Switzerland to end his life (Post)
News source(s): CBS
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 Count Iblis (talk) 22:39, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Wang Danfeng

Article: Wang Danfeng (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Global Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Iconic Chinese film actress. Zanhe (talk) 20:07, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Gibson bankruptcy

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Article: Gibson#Bankruptcy (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Musical instrument manufacturer Gibson files for bankruptcy as it closes down its consumer electronics division. (Post)
News source(s): CNN Money, Bloomburg, NPR, The Beeb
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Nominator's comments: Article is of decent quality, Gibson is recognized as one of the worldwide leaders in guitar manufacturing, major news in the industry. This has been expected for some time, as the non-instrument related parts of the company have been hemoraging cash for years. This debt restructuring plan is designed to return Gibson to primarily a musical instrument manufacturer; it was upside down in debt because its largest division (the consumer electronics one) was a complete mess. This should preserve their role as an industry leader in what the brand is primarily known for. Jayron32 16:20, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose As noted here and in the articles, this was largely expected (in contrast, the Toys R Us failing was more a surprise). And this isn't the end of Gibson, just turning their focus back to guitar making. --Masem (t) 16:25, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose too small. If Gibson is only a leader in guitar manufacturing, that's too specialist an area. The article also indicates the company is relatively small, e.g. $135 million in liquidity payments is not that much money. Compare Toys R Us (per Masem), which dealt with a much larger field and had revenue in the billions. Banedon (talk) 21:48, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Basque group ETA

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Article: ETA (separatist group) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Basque separatist group ETA is dissolved. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: 50-year campaign for an independent state is at an end. cart-Talk 14:31, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support on principle, oppose on quality The article is woefully undersourced. There's a lot of red links, but that's probably not as much of a problem as the lack of sorucing throughout. But the event is one of note that could be ITN if the article was good. --Masem (t) 14:35, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose; target article seems to quit reporting activity (outside of a few quick notes in the lead) on the dissolution process. Basically, the article body stops having relevent information about the group in about 2016, so ALL of the context for their dissolution, which has been going on for about 1.5 years now, is absent from the text of the article. There needs to be a LOT more information on the past two years to provide enough context for the blurb to make sense. This is entirely separate from the sourcing issues noted above, which is also a no-go condition for me as well.--Jayron32 14:37, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose ETA announced a permanent end to armed struggle way back in 2011, and I'm not sure that formally declaring themselves dissolved is really that significant.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 15:48, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • You may well be right about that, but what about the quality of the article? It has a one-line update. Where is the detail, the reactions? There are several "citation needed" tags too.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 13:07, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Chhota Rajan conviction

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Article: Chhota Rajan (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ One of India's most notorious gangsters, Chhota Rajan, has been convicted of ordering the 2011 killing of a crime reporter in Mumbai. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In India, Chhota Rajan is convicted of ordering the 2011 killing of Jyotirmoy Dey in Mumbai..
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: Some referencing issues. Sherenk1 (talk) 09:32, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Won't that be for each news we post. Everyone is not always interested in everything we post. I do see this in BBC.com world and also as top news in BCC India. I expect someone from South America wouldnt be interested in this news. But Users from India would certainly be along with Indian expats living in other parts of the world. Sherenk1 (talk) 12:40, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well yes but that's why I'm using specific search terms ("India" and "Rajan"). This kind of result indicates it's not dominating news even in India. Looking at the website of The Hindu, some of the current headlines are "Supreme Court wants trials in child sexual abuse cases to be fast-tracked", "JD(U) leader Uday Narayan Chaudhary quits party", and "Aadhaar biometric data is 100% secure, asserts India’s cybersecurity chief Gulshan Rai", all unrelated to the case. Banedon (talk) 21:54, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Article is spotty and inconsistent, hard to follow any narrative, reads like a collection of random crimes. Also same problems as noted above. --Jayron32 15:19, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose "Random collection of crimes" aptly describes this article. –Ammarpad (talk) 04:57, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose--I came across nothing but scant coverage across the Indian print-dailies.Not significant enough, to deserve a mention at main-page.On a side-note, it's my first foray into ITN and if my arguments are on the wrong lines, I expect that some of the regulars over here will correct it.Best,~ Winged BladesGodric 16:04, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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References

Nominators often include links to external websites and other references in discussions on this page. It is usually best to provide such links using the inline URL syntax [http://example.com] rather than using <ref></ref> tags, because that keeps all the relevant information in the same place as the nomination without having to jump to this section, and facilitates the archiving process.

For the times when <ref></ref> tags are being used, here are their contents: