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Articles created/expanded on April 5

Health in Ghana

5x expanded by Sadads (talk), Als242 (talk). Self nom at 01:16, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Some of the content for this article was copied from other articles, but a vast majority of it was written today for the expansion of this article, and the subsequent need to expand the related articles. Also, this is well over 10x expansion, so I don't think that should be an issue, Sadads (talk) 01:16, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Article review:Panama Creature
The size checks out and the article is generally well-written and sourced. However, the specific fact cited in the hook about maternal mortality is not supported by a reference. — btphelps (talk) (contribs) 05:24, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The other author updated that stat, I am thinking we should modify the hook, how about "... that in Ghanian women's health, breast cancer is the leading malignacy and HIV/AIDS affects 140,000 women?", 92.14.184.150 (talk) 20:54, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
effects->affects. -- Nczempin (talk) 10:16, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed above, and that was me on the ip previously, Sadads (talk) 21:00, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
140,000 women is a lot, but compared to what? What per cent of the population is affected? What makes the facts notable or interesting? The phrasing is also awkward. — btphelps (talk) (contribs) 21:47, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What should it be compared to? The fact in and of itself would be more than enough. If you have a better suggestion, I would be more than welcome for it. Sadads (talk) 21:20, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Dunno, total women in Ghana? or how about just a percentage figure? if 140K is 1% of the population, or if it's 20%, that's a measurable difference. Is breast cancer as the #1 malignancy unusual? I don't know. The hook is a device to motivate people to click through and read it. The hook as it is just doesn't do that for me, IMO. I don't have time to study the article. I'm sure you can find something more intriguing. — btphelps (talk) (contribs) 17:38, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure whether this helps, but Ghana's total population is some 24m. If half are female, then 140k is about 1% of the female population. Schwede66 02:06, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 6

Hotel Plaza Grande

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Dream Focus (talk). Self nom at 12:33, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, ok, references accepted AGF. But article says "It was one of the first formal hotels in Quito", not "the first formal hotel". Also, it would be nice to add File:Hotel Plaza Grande2.jpg to the hook. --Soman (talk) 02:34, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Fixed. It was the first formal hotel in the modern sense, obviously guest houses and inns which had other functions had existed before then from its founding but they weren't proper modern hotels.. By all means include image although I doubt it would have a lead hook..♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:38, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Indianapolis Art Center

Created by Missvain (talk). Self nom at 04:19, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The length is good and while DYKcheck gives the date as 5 April rather than 6 April, that doesn't really matter. However, we usually require the hook fact to be directly cited in the article, which it isn't here. This should be easy enough to fix. BigDom (talk) 15:45, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Child sexual abuse in New York City religious institutions

Created by Swliv (talk). Self nom at 05:19, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length of article OK, however hook is too long (306 characters instead of ~200) and rather convoluted, plus article title is not bolded. Article history says nothing except: "correcting title of recent new article; edited from prev. article". What was the title of the recent new article and where is its edit history? When was it created? --GuillaumeTell 16:51, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

::: The previous page & its history was deleted by an admin (per an author's G7 request), as shown here. Shearonink (talk) 17:25, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

:* Since the edit history has been hidden from view with this G7 action, how can editors tell when the article was actually created or when it was actually expanded? Shearonink (talk) 18:39, 9 April 2011 (UTC) [reply]

To start I have to say thanks for all the good attention. This is not an easy one, I know.

Second, a shorter (195 char.) and I think better variant:

Swliv (talk) 01:30, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Third, the background on the creation. It's only circumstantial, but I'll start by noting that the current article was created April 9, yet this self-nomination is under the 6th. That's because I started the nomination of the original article (all mine, no edits on it, started on the 6th, 27 page views on the 7th); then I realized that my typo, in effect, in the title was a real blemish; so I proceeded to create the new page (and, yes, with a good deal more editing of my original work, but nothing fundamental) and then empty out the old page, as I understood to be the appropriate way to (as happened) have an admin. eliminate it. (I didn't want it hanging around, think that's understandable.) Then I came back to the self-nom. but forgot to move it to the 9th. (And have worried about that a little, in the interim.) Anyway, the change in the title was simply that I'd left a "the" in in front of "New York City":
Child sexual abuse in the New York City religious institutions. Obviously blemished, I think. More substantively, to trace my approach to the article just a little: The NY mag. article I read maybe two weeks ago. Then a primary subject of that article, interviewed in South Carolina and all, B. Oliva, pled guilty in Massachusetts. I only stumbled on the guilty plea because the page views of Christ The King Regional High School spiked. Once I saw that, I felt I had to try to pull together what I'd learned (feeling I was sort of playing catch up, by then, but having to do it anyway). I have to say at the moment I can't recall how the second case -- E. Lorch, still before the Mass. courts -- came to my view. If anyone's interested, I'll trace my path. (The coincidences between the two, which the DYK uses, were pretty striking to me, once I had found the latter one and worked it up.)
Fourth, I'll say I've been following some of the widespread Wiki work on the general subject of child sexual abuse, and contributing from time to time, for quite a while. I could go into my history here in more detail if anyone wants, but for now I'll just go to the "censorship" comment above. I appreciate but haven't explored the references given. I may explore them and will respond if I do. Meanwhile, I'd say that I think Wikipedia has done a pretty good job on this general, difficult area and, on the other hand, there's much more that can and I hope will be done. I did marvel at the three "category bars" (I don't know what they're called; "hide"/ "show" at the bottom) which I imported into my article from probably Philadelphia. So much there. So much more that could be. I do think my current NYC contribution, also I'm sure not perfect, is nonetheless worthy of Wikipedia and, hence, of consideration for DYK. I'll leave it at that. Thanks again. Swliv (talk) 01:30, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Swliv, I hope you don't mind that I struck out the text that related to the page history since my history merger request has rendered the issue moot (and also verified your story completely). Since it's now moot, I struck out the lines to try to reduce the complexity of this DYK request. OCNative (talk) 01:19, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't mind at all, of course. Thanks for clearing up that problem with my nomination. I've wondered about whether the nomination is languishing terminally, and in effect still do. But at least the package is cleaner, now. Thanks again. Swliv (talk) 22:03, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
After that moment of self-pity, I thought first about at least alerting earlier commenters to the history clarification but then was quickly reminded of the outstanding The C of E. comment. I've now reviewed the Big Jock Knew article and exchange over DYK back in March. First, given my interest in the general subject, I was drawn into the article and the DYK exchange. I liked learning about the controversy. On the other hand, while I'm still quite new to the DYK process, ultimately I think I agreed with the gist of comments which said it felt incomplete to have an article about a controversial chant without having an article about the controversy itself. As to the relevance of that article and decision to the decision on the current article -- including the expressed concern over censorship in Wikipedia -- I don't quite see the applicability. One of the two cases referenced in this DYK has proceeded through the courts to a guilty plea; the other is in the courts with an indictment handed down by a grand jury. The two other cases covered in the article are mostly documented elsewhere in Wikipedia but fit well within the new article's umbrella title. Yes, child sexual abuse is controversial, but it's well covered in Wikipedia (not perfectly, but pretty widely and deeply) and the two current cases have their unusual aspects as well as considerable commonality with the broad, grim (to allow myself an editorial comment) reality of many, many other cases, many documented in Wikipedia. I hope this helps in any continued consideration of this nomination. Swliv (talk) 23:27, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 7

Killer Kowalski Memorial Show

Ox Baker speaking about Kowalski during the opening ceremony of the Killer Kowalski Memorial Show

Created by 72.74.219.7 (talk). Nominated by 72.74.219.7 (talk) at 10:32, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Dickshooter

Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 22:51, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, date OK, Hook fact supported by the reference. Mjroots (talk) 13:32, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • This article is an absolute mess, and I object to it being promoted in its current form. Here's some history. Dickshooter is a U6 Census code location in a remote Idaho wilderness area, and I can find no record of it having any population. The only coverage of the place is its occasional inclusion on a list of funny place names. Presumably in order to meet the 1500 byte requirement for DYK, and due to the paucity of information that is actually about Dickshooter, the article's creator created multiple subsections summarizing the positive attributes of OTHER tourist destinations in Idaho. Most of these OTHER destinations discussed in the article are not even geographically close to Dickshooter -- three to four hours drive. These sections have no relevance to an article about Dickshooter (except possibly to add bulk to meet the 1500 byte requirement). I spent over an hour last night fixing it. I removed the flowery, Chamber of Commerce, tour guide style language. I also omitted the completely irrelevant sections discussing OTHER Idaho destinations at geographically remote distances from Dickshooter. Mbz then reverted all of my work in a wholesale manner. I re-made my changes with a note to please not undo my improvements in a wholesale manner. Mbz then made a note at the article's Talk page, and three minutes later another user User:ברוקולי again reverted all of my changes in a wholesale manner. Wikipedia is supposed to be about creating quality articles, not adding irrelevant fluff to an article so that it becomes long enough to get a DYK reward. Unless this article is substantially revised so that it legitimately meets the DYK requirements without the fluff and irrelevant discussion of distant sites OTHER THAN Dickshooter, it should not be promoted. Cbl62 (talk) 17:00, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This discussion does not belong here. There's an article talk page to discuss content issues.--Mbz1 (talk) 18:48, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In light of the more cooperative edits this afternoon, including striking sections on the unrelated locales, I am withdrawing my objection to promotion of the article. Cbl62 (talk) 22:06, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As the article is right now, it is only ~ 700 characters, well short of the required 1500. Canada Hky (talk) 23:23, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • It is fixed now.Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 23:40, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    The information about unrelated locales was just re-added. Its possible there just might not be enough material to hit the criteria, funny name or not. Canada Hky (talk) 03:36, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Note that the name and scope of the article have been changed since it was first created. It was originally an article about the community of Dickshooter, Idaho. It is now about how the name "Dickshooter" has been given to several places in Owyhee County, Idaho. Qrsdogg (talk) 04:46, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Are there any similar articles about a collection of features, none of which seem particularly notable on their own? If they are all notable, I'd say they should all have their own articles, and a dab page. If Dick Shooter is notable, I'd say the material about what was named after him could all be included on one page. As it is - this just seems like a lot of dedication to something for the sake of a funny name, and I don't think that's a great thing to feature. Canada Hky (talk) 15:02, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, I think what you're saying is that this is inadmissible to DYK due to WP:SYNTH? I think the sources for each location note that they were named after Mr. Shooter, and the current title works as well as "Places Named After Dick Shooter" would. Whether this is the greatest article or not, I think it technically meets all of the DYK criteria now. Qrsdogg (talk) 15:51, 9 April 2011 (UTC)comment edited at 18:09[reply]
    Well, "Dick Shooter" doesn't seem to be notable. A list of non-notable places named after him seems questionable as to whether it merits a Wikipedia entry. The fact that each place on its own does not have enough material on it to get 1500 characters isn't really a mark in its favour. I'm not questioning whether it is the greatest article, I'm questioning whether this listing of places is encyclopedic. Canada Hky (talk) 23:53, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Dick Shooter is not notable, the places named after him are, if for nothing else then at least for an unusual name, but Dickchooter creek listed in the National Wild and Scenic Rivers System, and Dickshooter ridge mentioned in the Act adopted by US congress.
    This discussion does not belong here. Notability is not one of DYK criteria. There are afd to discuss notability of the articles.--Mbz1 (talk) 14:12, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gare de la Bastille

Gare de la Bastille, Paris in the early C20th

5x expanded by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 19:53, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 8

Hierapolis sawmill

Scheme of the Roman Hierapolis stone sawmill. The 3rd century AD watermill is the first known machine to incorporate a crankshaft and connecting rod.

5x expanded by Gun Powder Ma (talk). Self nom at 21:16, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • First off, I see only 1562B of prose , while all earlier revisions from nearly a year ago have the same prosesize. Also, it was not expanded within 5 days of said expansion, which I don't even see. –MuZemike 06:38, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I expanded mainly the references in the last days. Don't know about the bureaucratic side of DYK, but the sawmill remains an absolutely stunning discovery in the history of technology as can also been seen from the contributions in several languages published within the span of only two years. Gun Powder Ma (talk) 11:03, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sensational Sherri Memorial Cup Tournament, Shinya Hashimoto Memorial Legacy Cup Tournament, Hustle King Memorial Six Man Tag Team Tournament

Created by 72.74.224.37 (talk), 72.74.202.170 (talk). Nominated by GaryColemanFan (talk) at 22:18, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ivar Ekeland

A picture of the Julia set

A picture of the Feigenbaum bifurcation of the logistic function.

 Kiefer.Wolfowitz  (Discussion) 19:45, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

5x expanded by Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk). Self nom at 10:55, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • This seems a bit dubious. The basic research and explanation of the Feigenbaum cascade was done long before 1990; and as semi-mathematical popularisers of chaos people like James Gleick or Ian Stewart were far more significant. Frankly, this hook seems a bit much to hang on seven pages of a popular book treating something already well understood and well popularised. Jheald (talk) 15:30, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Jheald, perhaps you read the article on Ivar Ekeland too quickly? I quote from the article and its in-line page references (with on-line links):
Ekeland's popular books have also influenced an internationally best-selling novel and its film adaptation. Ekeland's books provided mathematical inspiration for Jurassic Park by Michael Crichton.[1] When Crichton's novel was adapted for the film Jurassic Park, by Steven Spielberg, Ekeland was consulted by the actor Jeff Goldblum as he prepared to play a mathematician specializing in chaos theory.[2]
  1. ^ Crichton (1997, p. 400): Crichton, Michael (1997). Jurassic Park. Ballantine Books. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help); Unknown parameter |retrieved= ignored (|access-date= suggested) (help)
  2. ^ Jones (1993, p. 9): Jones, Alan (1993). "Jurassic Park: Computer graphic dinosaurs". Cinefantastique. 24 (2): 8–15. {{cite journal}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help); Unknown parameter |retrieved= ignored (|access-date= suggested) (help)
Nobody is claiming that Ekeland's book was more important than Gleick's as advertising for chaos science. (Ekeland's notability is established for his other accomplishements, primarily.)
Please accept Chrichton's written word about its influence, especially after you verify the passage yourself.  Kiefer.Wolfowitz  (Discussion) 21:32, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Seems to me that the article should make clearer that Ekeland was one of the sources of Chrichton's interest in chaos theory -- at the moment the article seems to be significantly unbalanced by the prominence given to this factoid, complete with the picture of Jeff Goldblum; and the implication of the article, at least to a casual reader, is that Ekeland was the decisive influence on Chrichton. Instead, the truth according to our article on the film's characters, is that both Ekeland and Gleick were noted by Crichton; that the Goldblum character's name "Ian Malcolm" was a conscious reference to Ian Stewart; and the look of the Goldblum character was apparently inspired by Heinz-Otto Peitgen.
The hook is actually fair enough. But the article needs to make clearer that Ekeland was at best only one of several mathematician role-models who inspired Goldblum's character in the movie, before this should be accepted as a DYK; and I still think this factoid is currently getting WP:UNDUE prominence there. Jheald (talk) 13:48, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
@Jheald, you are misreading the sentence, and inserting "the" without warrant. What policy are you referring to, when you claim that this DYK should be blocked?
The hook is interesting and will attract a lot of persons interested in Jurassic Park. The images allow DYK readers to quickly verify and find more information about Ekeland and Jurassic Park. The article on Ivar Ekeland is about him. I provided the sourced material on the Jurassic Park character played by Goldblum, which you describe; the details of other influences on Crichton belong there, not in the Ekeland article. Expanding the Jurassic Park material further, as you suggest, would violate the WP:Undue policy. Kiefer.Wolfowitz  (Discussion) 16:43, 17 April 2011 (UTC)  Kiefer.Wolfowitz  (Discussion) 15:41, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The hook seems fair enough to me: it doesn't say that Ekeland invented fractals or chaos, only that his writings on the subject inspired something else, and that is well documented in the article. There are still two easily fixed issues, though: (1) the small thumbnail image will not be animated (resizing images breaks animation) so the hook shouldn't say that it is, and (2) it would be good to bluelink more of the terms in the hook. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:33, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, David. (I asked David for input.) I revised the hook(s) as suggested.  Kiefer.Wolfowitz  (Discussion) 19:09, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As I wrote above, the hook in its present state may be fair enough; the article isn't. The article currently gives the substantially misleading impression that Ekeland was the principal basis for the inclusion of chaos theory in Jurassic Park; and for the character of Ian Malcolm. That isn't true. An article that would mislead people in that way should not be linked to from the front page.
If you want to correct the article, to make much clearer than Ekeland was only one source amongst many that Crichton used, then we can reconsider. But until those corrections are made, the article is not fit to be linked to as a DYK. Jheald (talk) 22:08, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry but your repeated and insistent comments indicate a difficulty with the English article "the" rather than a violation of DYK policy.  Kiefer.Wolfowitz  (Discussion) 22:29, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As per a libel trial, what matters is not just what you have written, and whether that may technically be correct; but rather more importantly, how what you have written is likely to be interpreted. It is quite true, you haven't written in the Ekeland article explicitly that Ekeland was the principal basis for chaos and for the character of Malcolm. But as Ekeland is the only such basis that you do mention in the article, that is likely nevertheless to be the conclusion that readers infer from it. That conclusion is a false conclusion, so readers would be misled. The DYK section on the front page should not be used to advertise articles that are likely to result in readers being misled. Jheald (talk) 23:04, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Let us see whether anybody agrees with you ....  Kiefer.Wolfowitz  (Discussion) 23:14, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Polyfluorene

Image shows examples of luminescence from two polyfluorene derivatives

  • ... that molecules that chemists isolated from coal tar in 1883 have been made into a polymer (called polyfluorene) that powers solar cells?

5x expanded by Aromaticmoleculessmell (talk), Polymersgrpmem (talk). Nominated by Klsyking (talk) at 14:33, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Radix natalensis

A drawing of a lymnaeid shell

Created by Snek01 (talk). Self nom at 17:49, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Acropyga acutiventris and Xenococcus annandalei. [3].
ALT1: that Radix natalensis (shell pictured) is a widespread freshwater snail in Africa transferring fluke Fasciola gigantica?

Choose a hook of your choice. --Snek01 (talk) 17:51, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2 ... that Radix natalensis (shell pictured), a freshwater snail found in Africa, is a major intermediate host of liver flukes that cause fasciolosis?
ALT2 is not precise. It is a major vector in Africa for Fasciola gigantica only. Fasciola hepatica is transferred mainly by Galba truncatula and Pseudosuccinea columella in Africa. --Snek01 (talk) 10:07, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Fort Center

  • ... that Fort Center is an archaeological site where maize may have been cultivated centuries before it appeared anywhere else in Florida?

(UTC) Created by Donald Albury (talk). Self nom at 01:27, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that the Fort Center site came to the attention of archaeologists after a carved wooden bird (pictured) was found in a pond?
Moved from user sandbox on 8 April 2011.
Reviewed Central Organising Committee, Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) Party Unity here
The carving is behind glass. Photos without a flash show reflections from windows and other display cases. The museum doesn't allow tripods or monopods, so I doubt they would allow me to set up a screen to block reflections from the glass. It may be possible to get permission to take a picture of the carving outside the display cabinet, but it would take time to get permission for a date I could be there. There are better images on the web, but they aren't licensed for free use. -- Donald Albury 14:17, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How about if you crop the top half or so, just above the reflection, and save as a different file with only the head and "shoulders" of the bird? It's not a perfect solution, and it doesn't guarantee a picture hook, but it may be satisfactory for now. Dahn (talk) 10:42, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Zugspitze

5x expanded by Bermicourt (talk). Self nom at 15:49, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Redmond Spokesman

Created by Orygun (talk). Self nom at 18:22, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Air India One

Created by Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते. Self nom at 10:22, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

C.C. Bridgewater

Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 08:49, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length, hook ref all verified. I like the way you placed the emphasis in ALT1; just wondering if this would be better:
I counted 201 characters in ALT2, but I like how you included the implications of his inability to file for re-election and the suspense provided by the dash, so how about this 198-character version:

Landa de Matamoros

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 01:29, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Blue Labour

  • ... that Blue Labour is a socially conservative trend in the British Labour Party that argues for Flag, Faith and Family?

5x expanded by Riversider2008 (talk). Self nom at 15:23, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Climate of the Falkland Islands

Created by Chipmunkdavis (talk). Self nom at 02:21, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Myrtis Chipmunkdavis (talk) 02:34, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Jorf Lasfar

5x expanded by Deyyaz (talk). Self nom at 21:14, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hook is much too long
  • I like the first part for its conciseness, but I think the second part is a little vague. The reason why the submission was so long was because I was trying to figure out a way to say what I wanted to say clearly and accurately. By just saying that "it was the largest foreign investment", it kind of feels clipped.
How about? ALT 2 ... that when the ABB Group and CMS Energy invested $1.5 billion into projects at the Moroccan port of Jorf Lasfar, it was the largest foreign investment to have occurred in that country? Deyyaz [ Talk | Contribs ] 17:44, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 9

William Hunt Painter

Created by Parkywiki (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 17:39, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the conditional approval for this article. I'm optimistic that it will get through AfD given the 1800 references to his book including a recent citation in an American botany book. I believe it will take a week to go through that process. Victuallers (talk) 15:01, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The King of Rome

a pigeon in a case

Created by Pigsonthewing (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 17:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Created by Msrasnw (talk). Self nom at 11:57, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Groupe Bogolan Kasobané

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 04:49, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Foresight Nanotech Institute Feynman Prize

5x expanded by Antony-22 (talk). Self nom at 19:02, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This is mostly a list article, the prose portion was expanded from ~300 bytes to ~1650 bytes.
Reviewed Spirit Fruit Society

Antoine Germain Labarraque

  • ... that chemist Antoine Labarraque helped to banish nasty niffs from the streets and buildings of 19th century Paris?

Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 13:42, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length, and references check out. I fixed a typo in one of the references (the page number for Knight should have been 427, not 429). Among the hooks you list I prefer ALT2 because of its greater specificity, but they're all ok. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:29, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2012 United States federal budget

5x expanded by Antony-22 (talk). Self nom at 01:50, 10 April 2011 (UTC) Reviewed Kommilitonen![reply]

  • The expansion was recent and more than 5 times, so that's good. The article is somewhat thinly sourced, but meets the 'at least one ref per paragraph' requirement. There are a couple of 'this section is empty' tags on the page, and that gives the distinct impression of the article being incomplete, which violates additional rule D7. You'll have to deal with that. Also, the sentence(s) that states the hook fact needs to be directly referenced and you'll have to do that, too. Once the article appears no longer incomplete, please remove the stub tags and the stub assessment. Schwede66 03:06, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I will fill out or remove the empty sections within the next day or so. As for the sourcing, all the information in each paragraph comes from the cited source for that paragraph. I could have put the same ref after every sentence in each paragraph, but it's generally understood that if a paragraph contains a ref only at its end, that ref applies to everything in the paragraph. The hook is comparing facts from two different refs (but published in the same newspaper, written by the same author), but I see this as akin to the rule that routine mathematical calculations are not original research. Essentially, if one ref says "the Democratic budget increases X funding" and the other says "the Republican budget decreases X funding", then it's an routine, uncontroversial statement to say that the funding plans are different. Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 07:43, 16 April 2011 (UTC) Update: I have dealt with the empty sections. Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 17:29, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sounding Point

Created by J04n (talk). Self nom at 00:39, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Michelle Linn-Gust

Linn-Gust in photo

  • ... that author Michelle Linn-Gust (pictured) released her first book Do They Have Bad Days in Heaven? Surviving the Suicide Loss of a Sibling which was about her experiences from her sister's suicide?

--BabbaQ (talk) 23:29, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • ALT1: ... that Michelle Linn-Gust's first book in 2001 gave advice on surviving the suicide of siblings?
  • ALT2: ... that Michelle Linn-Gust's first book in 2001 was about surviving her sister's suicide at age 17?
  • Comment: Article needs additional reliable, independent sources to establish eligibility of subject and article for notability; note lack of independent reviews of books in newspapers/magazines. Please note appropriate format for inline citations of sources.
 DYK eligibility requires additional work. Parkwells (talk) 20:55, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Carlton Hotel, Christchurch

Photo of a two storey building with earthquake damage.

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 21:10, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Bruiser Brody Memorial Cup

Created by 72.74.224.37 (talk). Self nom at 19:59, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wait a miniute, The original hook is 35 characters over the limit. I think it probibly is the best one so it would be great if the characters could be cut down to be eligable. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 10:40, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I believe I've crammed the original hook into 200 characters:
ALT3:... that 17 years after Bruiser Brody's 1988 murder, the stadium where he was killed was one of the venues of the Bruiser Brody Memorial Cup Tour, which featured his assailant, Invader I, on the card? OCNative (talk) 15:57, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dagens man

Carolina Gynning is the host of Dagens man

self nom --BabbaQ (talk) 19:43, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed:Bhikshatana.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:53, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • While it looks like it's a "dejtingprogram" in Swedish, I changed the English in the hook from "datingshow" to "dating show". But if that's some new compound word that I haven't heard of, or if it's somehow desired stylistically, go ahead and change it back. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 23:26, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reipas

  • ... that the record-setting Finnhorse trotter Reipas was originally a thin, weak foal of unknown parentage?

Created by Pitke (talk). Self nom at 15:05, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cathy Cochran

Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 08:21, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Considering stereotypes about Texas Republicans (unlike in other states, Texas judges are partisan elected offices, by the way), I'd hate to leave that piece of information out, so how about:

Bhikshatana

Stone sculpture of a nude, four-armed man with a deer, dwarf and woman

Created by Redtigerxyz (talk). Self nom at 11:12, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't that be "slipped off at the sight of the Hindu god Shiva"? Richerman (talk) 00:54, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Courtney Vandersloot

Picture of Courtney Vandersloot

Created by Dale Arnett (talk). Self nom at 07:56, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Mote Park (cricket ground)

Created by The C of E (talk). Self nom at 07:07, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date Length and ref verified. Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 10:35, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dwight B. Heard

  • ... that Dwight B. Heard is credited with the expansion of Arizona's cotton industry after becoming president of the Arizona Cotton Association?

Created by Buggie111 (talk). Self nom at 00:25, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

reference says he is credited with making industry more competitive not that he is credited with its expansion. Richerman (talk) 01:21, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Economy growth does not equal expansion? What do you suggest? Buggie111 (talk) 01:26, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, have I missed something about economy growth in the source? If not I would just say he's credited with making industry more competitive internationally. Richerman (talk) 01:40, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, the source. Yes, I see your point. How 'bout this? Buggie111 (talk) 02:15, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that Dwight B. Heard is credited with making Arizona's cotton industry more competitive after becoming president of the Arizona Cotton Association?
OK, change the line in article to that too and it's good to go Richerman (talk) 09:33, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You Debt Your Life

5x expanded by User:89119e (talk). Self nom at 06:24, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rushbearing

  • that the ancient custom of rushbearing (pictured) has died out in most of Britain but is still celebrated in parts of the northwest of England?

5x expanded by Richerman (talk). Self nom at 01:13, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Aha! Bible thumpers and the demon drink - always good combination. I just thought the hook may be a bit long, but if not I'm happy to go with that. Richerman (talk) 18:15, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Seven Wonders of Colombia

created by Alwhorl (talk). Self nom at 20:02, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 10

Celts in Transylvania

The Celtic Helmet from Ciumeşti, Transylvania (Romania)

5x expanded by Boldwin (talk). Nominated by Codrinb (talk) at 16:21, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date, 5x expansion and hook check, but I have to question the title of the article. Transylvania is part of Dacia and most of the article is about the Celtic occupation of Dacia. I think the article should be called "Celts in Dacia" for accuracy but use the Transylvania line for the hook.Thelmadatter (talk) 18:46, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This is a good question. Yet, the ancient Dacia’s area was larger than the territory of the modern-day Transylvania. The books where I took information from were specifying Transylvania. The article is including information of the Celtic sites, inscriptions, artifacts from the area of Transylvania. If we change the name, we have to include Celtic and Celto-Dacian sites from Southern Poland, East Hungary, Southwestern Slovakia, and other sites from South and East Romania. It would be probably better, to clarify better this demarcation Dacia vs Transylvania, in the article's sections. Do you have any suggestion? Boldwin (talk) 19:48, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
A few sections were updated and some clarifications were added to show the focus on the part of Dacia that is today Transylvania. Also, although there were Celts in other parts of Dacia (and in what Romans and Greeks called Moesia and Scythia Minor), the Celtic presence is far more substantial in Transylvania. Indeed, the scope of the article could be extended, but I think that should be done outside the DYK since there is a lot more to be covered in such a case. If a Celts in Dacia article will get started, generic parts of Celts in Transylvania could be moved there at that time. --Codrin.B (talk) 20:15, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Mancusi v. DeForte

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 16:07, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The original hook is a bit clumsy, but it's very much superior to ALT1, which implies that the 28-hour jury deliberation was at SCOTUS level (both wrong and impossible). Roscelese (talkcontribs) 08:18, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
While I'm sure that some past Supreme Court clerks might find a way of arguing you're not entirely right about that :-), thank you for recognizing that the clunky wording was the only way to make clear that the jury's all-nighter took place at the trial level. Daniel Case (talk) 15:20, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps "decision, which established" rather than "decision establishing" could make it slightly better. Otherwise I feel out of breath when I come to the end! Roscelese (talkcontribs) 00:04, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Conybeare

East end of an 1866 church modelled on the Sainte-Chapelle

Created by GuillaumeTell (talk). Self nom at 15:38, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Bumastus

A specimen of Bumastus crawling along the sand beneath shallow water.

  • ... that the extinct trilobite Bumastus (artist's rendition pictured) was named after its resemblance to large grapes?
  • Comment: My third self nom. Image is my own work and specifically created for the article.

Created by Obsidian Soul (talk). Self nom at 20:45, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Length, history and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 16:00, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Treaty of Chernomen

Created by Gligan (talk). Nominated by TodorBozhinov (talk) at 08:06, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edward J. Burke

Created by Editorofthewiki (talk). Self nom at 23:43, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Aaiha

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Nominated by Paul Bedson (talk) at 00:28, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

M2 gas mask

  • ... that the M2 gas mask protected the wearer for at least five hours against the common World War I chemical weapon phosgene?

Created by Buggie111 (talk). Nominated by Buggie111 (talk) at 18:06, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length, hook ref verified. However, much of the information is based on a blog. I found at least 3 good sources for further information on Google Books, and listed the links on the talk page. Perhaps you could wean off the blog and polish up the article with the book info? Yoninah (talk) 19:32, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Drat! I didn't know it was a blog. I'll try to. does the other site (Gasmasklexicon) count as an RS? Buggie111 (talk) 23:00, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Acropyga acutiventris and Xenococcus annandalei

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self nom at 09:36, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ATL1: ... that the queen ant of the Acropyga acutiventris carries a mealybug Xenococcus annandalei in her jaws on her nuptial flight?

Samantha McClymont

Created by WWGB (talk). Self nom at 02:15, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am happy with ALT1, don't like ALT2 since the Australian Idol reference is the unexpected element here. WWGB (talk) 00:51, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Eckfeldt

Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 22:12, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

St Mary Magdalene's Church, Tortington

Three-quarter view of a grey flint and stone church in a churchyard with many gravestones. A prominent arched entrance and a white turret on the roof are visible at the far end.

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 22:05, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Walter Gilbert (cricketer)

Created by Sarastro1 (talk). Self nom at 21:25, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, ref all checked, though subscription ref accepted in good faith, everything in order, well done.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:07, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. I don't like hooks that solely focus on a negative aspect of a subject. It is forbidden in regards to living people, of course, but it's not good with dead people either. StAnselm (talk) 21:27, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hmmm... a bit dull, to be honest. This chap's only really claim to fame is to be one of the few famous cricketers to be caught in a compromising situation, resulting in a fairly spectacular fall from grace which was perpetuated for approximately 90 years. And I think the original hook is far more likely to make someone take a look. Much more than someone who no-one probably heard of making a score which isn't too impressive in modern times. But if it is a big deal at DYK that the hooks must be positive (even when the subject has been dead for 86 years), then I suppose ALT1 will have to suffice, as there is not too much else in his life not related to his ... erm ... indiscretion. --Sarastro1 (talk) 21:12, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, everyone. StAnselm (talk) 22:23, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of Scotland national football team hat-tricks

5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 18:35, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Bit of an unusual one as the DYK check tool is saying that it isn't a 5x expansion although my calculator is saying it is. Previous count was 344, and current expansion places it at 1780 characters. 344x5=1720, so not sure why the addon is saying no. :( Miyagawa (talk) 18:38, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I get the same numbers with the DYK check and it seems OK to me. Hook checks out and refs all good. Is it necessary to say "sets of hat-tricks" or would "hat-tricks" be enough? --Sarastro1 (talk) 21:15, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for review, have amended hook. Miyagawa (talk) 21:59, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jefferson nickel

Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 17:10, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Church of St John the Baptist, Upper Eldon--Wehwalt (talk) 17:10, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Church of St John the Baptist, Upper Eldon

A simple flint church with a red tiled roof

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 13:45, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


North Piddle

Created by Mbz1 (talk). Nominated by Canuckle (talk) at 08:17, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length, ref OK. But the ref does not say it was "one of England's strongest earthquakes"; this has to be deduced from the link, which is not OK for DYK. The ref says what the article says: it "exceeded in violence any previous instance of seismic energy here within the present century". Would you like to re-word the hook?--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 13:35, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Would "one of 19th-Century England's" be appropriate? Canuckle (talk) 03:53, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, that's correct, but it's still not what the source actually says. As the earthquake occurred in 1896, and it was the strongest of the century to date, it probably was the strongest in the century. But again that is deduction. Can you make anything of its occurrence in 1896 and the extract I quoted above? Or, to keep it simple, just leave out the bit about its being the strongest and confine the hook to the the date and the witness's experiences and speculations.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 08:31, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The source does not say that they thought the earthquake was caused by a meteor, but rather that the flash of light accompanying it was attributed to a meteor. Would you accept:
Sure.--Mbz1 (talk) 20:41, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
for ALT2. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 21:54, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Supernatural (Des'ree album)

  • ... that Supernatural, a 1998 album by British singer Des'ree, sold 50,000 copies in the United States, although her 1994 album I Ain't Movin' sold over a million copies?

Created by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 05:07, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Shubra Khit

  • ... that the detonation of the Mamluk's flagship's magazine at the Battle of Shubra Khit sent both the Mamluk flotilla and ground forces in full retreat?

Created by Buggie111 (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • How could I have missed that? Darn. I'm fine with having mine deleted and the other continue on, it's got nearly the exact same info. Guess I shouldn't wait years when making articles in my userspace! Buggie111 (talk) 21:35, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gandrung

A Gandrung dancer with traditional costume, a fan and a shawl in a dance movement.

created by Awewe (talk). Self nom at 20:02, 10 April 2011 (UTC+8)


Rome bid for the 2020 Summer Olympics

Created by Yk Yk Yk (talk). Self nom at 23:18, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Highest opening stand against England in Australia

Created by Philip Jelley (talk). Self nom Philipjelley (talk) 13:55, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I also reviewed "List of ICC Cricket World Cup finals", I have created the two new articles mentioned, so they are no lnger ugly and read, though still under construction.Philipjelley (talk) 13:21, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Did you read Template:Main/doc? That's not what "main" tags are for. StAnselm (talk) 20:04, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 11

Brothertoft

5x expanded by Panderoona (talk). Nominated by Sitush (talk) at 19:52, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment from nominator - I've done a fair amount of work on this but do not want the credit. The other major editor is a newbie & she brought it to my attention + carried on with her own edits there. I feel that a little encouragement here would go a long way. - Sitush (talk) 19:55, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment from nominee - Id like to thank Sitush for all his help, he deserves credit for being a great teacher :) Panderoona 20:31, 16 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Panderoona (talkcontribs)

Louisa Hubbard, Women's Emigration Society

Created by Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 19:28, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Christian Thomas (ice hockey)

5x expanded by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 17:29, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Theodoxus fluviatilis

A photo of two red semiovular shells with beige dots

5x expanded by Snek01 (talk). Self nom at 23:29, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Messier 91 [15]


Charles Alston

5x expanded by Missvain (talk). Self nom at 22:03, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed something, spaced it. African American can be linked too, fine with me. Missvain (talk) 22:52, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Great! I've added the wikilink. StAnselm (talk) 00:12, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Black Eagle Dam

A dynamite explosion tears apart a portion of a weir dam on a river

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 14:12, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and date verified; sources taken in good faith. Suggest rewording the hook to show that only a portion of the dam was dynamited (rather than the whole dam was blown up). The picture also needs to be referred to in the hook. matt (talk) 17:02, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT:... that a portion of Black Eagle Dam (pictured) was dynamited on April 14, 1908, so that floodwaters from the collapsed Hauser Dam could pass through?


Bright Angel (Waterhouse)

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 12:44, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I blocked out that large quote, and without it, the page is under 1500 char. Also, the first two paragraphs of the History section, from where you pulled your hook, lacks inline citations. Yoninah (talk) 21:34, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • We probably won't find inline citations for the fact that someone remembers his hike as a boy. It was the year when his father taught in Indiana, 1972, before his tenth birthday in November. - As to the quote: that is the personal version of the artist, "first hand", so to speak". I don't dare to say it differently, it would loose authenticity. Summary: the music was inspired by that hike, fact or not. What can we do? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:48, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK, now I see the hook ref in footnote #1. Now, what can you do about expanding the article with another paragraph? The quote is fine as is; it just doesn't count for the DYK character count per Rule A2. Yoninah (talk) 21:57, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Brian Morris (judge)

Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 01:22, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wow, you know how to pick the good ones! Date, length, hook ref all verified for ALT1, which reads simply and cleanly. I've taken out some linking so it won't look all-blue. ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:39, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Loire Valley chansonniers

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 23:39, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cool! Checks out and looks good to me! Missvain (talk) 22:51, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Triniscope

Created by User:Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 23:23, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed self-propelled particles.

6th Arizona Territorial Legislature

Created by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 23:07, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length, and hook check out; offline refs accepted in good faith. This is good to go for DYK. By the way, I love this entire Arizona Territorial Legislature series you're doing; great job on them all! Also, while reviewing this article for DYK, I took the liberty of including "(a future Governor of California)" after George Stoneman's name and I changed "The session convened on January 11, 1971" to "The session convened on January 11, 1871" as I assume that this was a typo (i.e. the session was delayed 2 years, not 102 years). OCNative (talk) 02:05, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gunda Gunda Gunde

  • ... that, with over 220 volumes, the monastery of Gunda Gunde has one of the largest collections of Ge'ez manuscripts in Ethiopia?

Created by Llywrch (talk). Self nom at 21:21, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date and length are ok but I have 2 problems with this 1) the hook doesn't seem fully supported by the sources - please can you specify where it is mentioned as one of the largest collections. I couldn't find it in the sources. My second problem concerns the name. It seems more frequently referred to as Gunda Gunde when searched for, including modern 2007 sources. Gunda Gunda sounds cooler (like Zenga Zenga) but I think it's important to keep article with the most current and most widely used naming conventions, so this might be worth a check. Thanks! Good article apart from that btw. Paul Bedsontalk 23:15, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • About the name: Due to a lack of a standardized transliteration system for Amharic -> English, spelling Ethiopian names are very inconsistent. (See the footnote to Wukro for one set of examples.) However, I went back to my printed sources, & they all use "Gunda Gunde" -- so I'll fix that. (I must have confused this monastery with a village 50 km away, just across the border in Eritrea: Guna guna.) As for your first point, I'll need to do some more research to confirm or correct that fact; however, considering that the library of the average Ethiopian church or monastery contains less than a dozen volumes, 200 volumes is a very large number. -- llywrch (talk) 00:07, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Length and date are okay. However, I was unable to find references to the "one of the largest collections of its kind in Ethiopia" claim in the cited source. Toдor Boжinov 08:10, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • After a lot of searching, I've found source which states it was (at one time) the largest library of "Abyssinian" literature (which is the older Western name for the Ge'ez language) & have added more material to put the size of its collection in perspective, compared to both inside & outside the country. I don't know if that satisfies all of the concern with that statement, or I should come up with a different hook. -- llywrch (talk) 21:53, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry for requiring so much additional work on your part. The de Jacobis statement seems a bit too distant in time to be considered valid today. Your research has proven that there are larger collections, but not that this one is among the largest (in fact, the two you have cited are significantly larger). Perhaps it would be better to come up with a hook that can be more easily sourced. Why not use the bit about the dragon? Toдor Boжinov 12:38, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lardea, Ktenia (fortress)

Created by Gligan (talk), TodorBozhinov (talk). Nominated by TodorBozhinov (talk) at 20:07, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

5th Arizona Territorial Legislature

Created by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 17:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1924–25 Nelson F.C. season

Created by BigDom (talk). Self nom at 15:54, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Felicia D. Henderson

Created by Ruby2010 comment! 06:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC) [reply]

Barend Joseph Stokvis

5x expanded by Jfdwolff (talk). Self nom at 15:21, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mikhail Pervukhin

5x created/expanded by TIAYN (talk) 19:43, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: 1924–25 Nelson F.C. season

Length and date. But fact on being First Deputy Premier is only mentioned in the lede, needs mention further down with hook. Also, the sentence where he's mentioned as important in the atomic programme should have a ref directly after it. --Soman (talk) 02:24, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 12

Darryl Richard (actor)

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 14:55, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Mitt Romney presidential campaign, 2012

Ricky Hunter

Yeah, you're right, I had considered that also, but it does make it pretty wordy, with a fair bit of reading before you get to the 'punchline'. Also thought with DYK it's about drawing people to the article, and with the short version you look at it and think, "what the...? That sounds weird, I gotta see what this is about", whereas with the longer version a lot of people would get to the ring names stuff and just think "oh, it's just some wrestling story" and not bother looking any further. I also considered just straight out using Ricky Hunter instead of Charles B. Sprott as a sort of middle road, but it was Sprott rather than his alias that is reported to have sued. Another ALT I considered was something along the lines of:
Personally I tend to prefer the original version, but there's a few options to pick from for whoever chooses these things. Thanks. --jjron (talk) 10:40, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mitt Romney presidential campaign, 2012

Created by GageSkidmore (talk), MAINEiac4434 (talk). Nominated by Wasted Time R (talk) at 04:53, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • To me, the hook source seems like speculation on the journalist's part, and the point is further overstated in the hook. It seems to imply subterfuge and vicarious motives, and thereby violate criterion 4.Lampman (talk) 22:36, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I prefer that; to my knowledge, Romney's intention to run in 2012 was not explicitly stated by the candidate himself until now. Date, length and hook ok. The article could be longer, as Billy says, but I assume that will come with time. Editors might want to take a look at the formatting of the references before it goes on the main page. Lampman (talk) 16:05, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think the article can be expaned by three or four paragraphs to make it better. Billy Hathorn (talk) 15:09, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alimuddin Zumla

Created by CaliforniaAliBaba (talk). Self nom at 03:08, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed #Garcorops jadis. cab (call) 07:48, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kawasaki's theorem

Flat-folded origami illustrating Kawasaki's theorem

5x expanded by David Eppstein (talk). Self nom at 21:29, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tesco bomb campaign

  • ... that police used cryptic messages placed in a newspaper and disguised as Mensa puzzles to communicate with the perpetrator of a letter bomb campaign?

Created by HJ Mitchell (talk). Self nom at 17:36, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pedro Virgili, Vilallonga del Camp

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 09:57, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Church of St Thomas à Becket, CapelDr. Blofeld 20:48, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Thanks!♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:41, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Felipe González González

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 09:41, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Center Point, Camp County, TexasDr. Blofeld 09:45, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Allocosa brasiliensis

  • ... that in the burrowing wolf spider Allocosa brasiliensis, males often eat older, less fecund females that they lured into their burrow using pheromones, while preferredly mating with virgins?

Created by Sarefo (talk). Self nom at 09:29, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Added some description. Actually the fact that spider males are larger than females and will eat them is the real novelty here. Possibly something like "... unlike many other spiders, where females eat males, the males of Allocosa brasiliensis often eat their females, particularly if these have already mated." Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 20:36, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Most of the pertinent sources should now be available in English @ article. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 22:16, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Church of St Thomas à Becket, Capel

A church with a tower surmounted by a pyramidal roof

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 09:23, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go. Nice job.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:47, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


The Motherfucker With the Hat

Created by MZMcBride (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 07:59, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • This article still needs a little more work before it is ready. The majority of the current text is quotations from reviews (indeed, the article reads like a review), and if I exclude those, it falls short of the length requirement. Also, several of the paragraphs with the reviews lack inline citations to the actual articles they quote; I imagine they were taken from the aggregation on StageGrade, but I don't think that's ideal in terms of sourcing. I would also suggest that a more interesting hook could be found than a statistic (like perhaps that it was Chris Rock's theater debut?). Dominic·t 08:55, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 On hold - OK; give me a few days, I'll try to improve it as you said. This is still 'new' so it'll still be within the 5 days. I'll let you know. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  20:46, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Please re-check, as the article has developed and is less of a quote-tarm. All paragraphs have references (and the quotations are now sourced to the original). I'm happy with an alternative hook - for example,
Thanks,  Chzz  ►  12:38, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Leigh Newton

Created by Jenks24 (talk). Self nom at 07:33, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

James C. Nelson

  • ALT1:... that James C. Nelson, appointed as a Montana Supreme Court Justice by Republican Governor Marc Racicot, wrote that blocking same-sex marriage was a "societal cancer grounded in bigotry and hate?"
  • Reviewed: 6th Arizona Territorial Legislature ([19])
  • Comment: Before my edits, this article was completely unsourced and consisted of 139 characters: "James C. Nelson (February 20, 1944 – ) is a justice on the Montana Supreme Court. He has served on the court since his appointment in 1993." With my edits, it is now 3,245 characters. This meets the requirements for both the newly-sourced BLP 2x expansion and the 5x expansion of any article.

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 02:47, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

St. Andrews Biological Station

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 00:09, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ref checks out (Fisheries and Oceans Canada, sounds OK), length c. 3000 words of prose, article looks to be of a good standard.  Chzz  ►  07:15, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Song Beneath the Song

  • Reviewed: Appy Awards ([20])
  • Comment: Created in a sandbox on 25 March, moved to the mainspace on 12 April.

Created by Frickative (talk). Self nom at 00:04, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alaungpaya

5x expanded by Hybernator (talk). Self nom at 23:33, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A couple of concerns.

1) In the article, can you give an inline reference for unifying the country for the third time in Burmese history.
2) Is this a 5 times expansion, following the 5 day Rule? I see the previous edit of 26 March 2011. 8,079 bytes X 5 would be about 40,000 bytes and 5 days would be 31 March 2011, NOT 12 April 2011, some 17 days later. Wikipedia:Did you know#DYK rules
IF you can address these above two issues, I would feel more comfortable passing it. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell talk 14:13, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
IF I use this tool, the History shows on 26 March 2011 the article had 3424 bytes and on 12 April 2011 it had 23,986 - so, I'll approve length as being over 5 times expansion. So, IF you could address the issue of the rule of 5 days - then we could have approval.--Doug Coldwell talk 15:01, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Communion token

Communion token from South Leith Parish Church

  • ... that over 5,000 types of communion token (pictured) have been recorded?

Created by StAnselm (talk). Self nom at 22:53, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Kenmare Sorceress

A black and white drawing of a solid looking tall terrier. The dog faces right and it has a well trimmed coat.

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 20:34, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Glisachaemus

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 20:33, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of number-one dance hits of 2005 (UK)

5x expanded by A Thousand Doors (talk). Self nom at 20:15, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Phoenix Tower, Chester

A sandstone tower with a battlemented parapet

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 19:42, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


180 Degrees South: Conquerors of the Useless

5x expanded by MichaelQSchmidt (talk) at 19:38, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Send tape echo echo delay

Photograph of a large white Georgian townhouse in North East London.

Created by Mattgirling (talk). Self nom at 16:54, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Mukhayriq

Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 15:33, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew Harclay, 1st Earl of Carlisle

Medieval manuscript drawing of man in armour throwing a spear from a rampart.

5x expanded by Lampman (talk). Self nom at 15:03, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewed. Date, hook, length, ref okay. Length close to 5x expansion. Hybernator


Adrian Dodson

Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 11:01, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Spring Creek Site

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 00:26, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Appy Awards

Created by The Rambling Man (talk). Self nom at 16:42, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length and hook verified. Interesting topic. Maybe "was named App of the Year", or "won the App of the Year accolade"? If you prefer the wording as is, that's fine with me. Good to go once you've reviewed a nomination (or provided a diff, if you've already done so and I've missed it). Frickative 23:00, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


| image=Blois.Maison de la Magie.wmt.

  • Did you know that this publicly-owned museum "Musée de France" contains 170 objects constructed or collected by MagicianJean-Eugène Robert-Houdin, exhibits 19th century automatons and is the only public museum in Europe which incorporates in one place collections of magic and a site for permanent performing arts.

Created by 7&6=thirteen ([[User talk:7&6=thirteen]), Berean Hunter. Self nom at 03:31, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on April 13

Evelyn M. Richardson

  • ... that the award winning writer Evelyn M. Richardson (1902 – 1976) lived on a 600-acre island for 35 years?

Created by Verne Equinox (talk). Self nom at 21:55, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Elmo Tanner

Created by 78.26 (talk). Self nom at 16:32, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • ALT2:... that two separate recordings featuring Elmo Tanner shared the same #1 spot on Billboard magazine simultaneously?"

Charles Silent

Created by Allen3 (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 11:53, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Bloomfield Leake

Created by Farragutful (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 11:53, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Great Britain at the 1994 Winter Paralympics

Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 11:07, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewed 8th & 9th Arizona State Legislature (diff)

Garcorops jadis

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 05:39, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nata Bird Sanctuary

Pelicans in the nata Bird Sanctuary
  • ... that the community initiated Nata Bird Sanctuary (Pictured pelicans in the reserve) in Botswana received the "Tourism for Tomorrow Award for the Southern Hemisphere” in 1993 in the very first year of its establishment?

Created by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 00:01, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've struck the original hook for the following reasons: • It's ambiguous: I read it to mean that it received the award in the first year of the award's establishment rather than the establishment of the sanctuary. • At 218 characters, the hook is a bit too long. • The title of the award in quotation marks is not correct according to the article (which I fixed according to the source; note that the hook ref is available via Google books, so no AGF required). • It has some formatting errors: upper case Pictured and mixed quotation marks. The following 189-character hook fixes it all:
  • ALT1: ... that the community initiated Nata Bird Sanctuary (pelicans in the reserve pictured) in Botswana opened in 1993 and the same year received the "Tourism for Tomorrow" award for the Southern Hemisphere? MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 19:36, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Baltocteniza & Electrocteniza

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 22:32, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good combination of articles and other wikilinks. Length and date check out, I'm assuming good faith on the offline sources. First Light (talk) 03:28, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Aziz Ahmad

Created by Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 18:19, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Allison (police officer)

5x expanded by January (talk). Self nom at 17:38, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

10th Arizona Territorial Legislature

Created by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 16:46, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No sé si es Baires o Madrid

ALT1 - Suggest slight change: *mp}}... that a live album released in 2009 includes a duet by Fito Páez and Joaquín Sabina, who had not spoken for more than 10 years?

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 16:28, 13 April 2011 (UTC). Self nom at 16:27, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Madonna (book). Jaespinoza (talk) 16:33, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ruislip-Northwood Urban District

5x expanded by Harrison49 (talk). Self nom at 15:20, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jovan Skerlić

Jovan Skerlić

  • ... that Jovan Skerlić's (pictured) role in literature and general cultural and political development has resulted in the suggestion that the period in Serbian history should be named after him?

Created by WhiteWriter (talk), 24.57.81.185 (talk). Self nom at 14:54, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Matthew Stockford

Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 14:30, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewed triniscope ([27])
Article new enough, long enough, and hook cited. Citation checks out. 78.26 (talk) 04:35, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Louise Bourgeois Boursier

1875 sketch of Louise Bourgeous Boursier

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 13:52, 13 April 2011 (UTC) [reply]


Messier 103

Messier 103 taken by Two Micron All Sky Survey (2MASS)

  • ... that the star cluster Messier 103 (pictured) can be observed with the use of binoculars?

Expanded from 313 characters of prose to 2012 article of prose. --TitanOne (talk) 13:10, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

8th Arizona Territorial Legislature, 9th Arizona Territorial Legislature

Created by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 13:05, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Spill (audio)

Speaker iconExample of drum kit spill into a snare drum microphone

Created by Mattgirling (talk). Self nom at 11:51, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Sound isn't the exact same file as is used in the article, but it is a shortened version for use in DYK. matt (talk) 12:03, 13 April 2011 (UTC) Changed original. matt (talk) 10:22, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Orthotonics

Created by Bruce1ee (talk). Self nom at 11:44, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

J-CATCH

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 11:26, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fred Laycock

  • ... that while playing for Barrow, footballer Fred Laycock left the pitch to sign for Nelson before completing the match, and was then fined for representing Barrow while contracted to another club?

Created by BigDom (talk). Self nom at 11:22, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and date ok, but article doesn't state that Laycock was fined for representing Barrow while contracted to another club – it just says he was fined. I'm sure that's the reason why, but either the article or the hook should be updated based on the source (which I've taken in good faith as it's an offline reference). matt (talk) 11:57, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Huntsman Marine Science Centre

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 03:01, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Center Point, Camp County, Texas

Created by Maile66 (talk). Self nom at 01:43, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length and hooked approved. Good to see a decent article on a ghost town rather than the sub stubs we generally have. Can you though add a citation next to the Barbara Smith Conrad just for the sake of the hook? Cheers.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:45, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not exactly sure what you meant, as there is an inline citation in the article's section about Barbara Smith Conrad, a reference which states where she was born. However, I added that citation also in the lead section where I have stated that's where she was born. Does that take care of what you thought it needed? Maile66 (talk) 11:43, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Riki Papakura

Created by User:Mattlore (talk). Self nom at 01:28, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've formatted the nomination to align with DYK practices (insert wikilinks, target article in bold, unlink title, question mark). The article itself is suitably referenced, new and the hook fact can be AGFed. At 1100B of readable prose, it is too short to meet DYK requirements, though. Schwede66 02:23, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Schwede, nice to see a familiar face here. Try now - I've expanded it a bit - otherwise I'll have to dig some books up to expand it more. Mattlore (talk) 05:28, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Long enough now (just). There can't be many rugby league players left that you haven't written a bio for, eh? Schwede66 07:49, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Phew! Ah, theres enough out there that could keep me going for a long long long time. Mattlore (talk) 07:54, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Madonna (book)

  • ... that author Andrew Morton's biography, Madonna, had an initial print run of 500,000 copies, but sold only half this number?

Created by Legolas2186 (talk). Self nom at 10:28, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ready to go. (BTW, big fan of your work). Jaespinoza (talk) 16:32, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

CTV Building

Diggers working in building rubble in front of a burned lift shaft

  • ... that more than 100 people died in the CTV Building (ruins pictured)?

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 23:17, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I have a slight preference for the original hook, as it's shorter, but also more mysterious (as it doesn't give away why the building collapsed). The original hook would work better if published with the image, as that demonstrates that it's a recent as opposed to historic event. Schwede66 22:34, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 14

Tomb of Akhethetep and Christine Ziegler

Tomb of Akhethetep

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 17:19, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Purgatory Correctional Facility

Created by Verne Equinox (talk). Self nom at 22:26, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dave Liddell

Created by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 14:22, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The hook is awkward and needs revising. Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:24, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date, and hook check out - I'm assuming good faith on the "only one pitch" aspect since it's an offline source. Either hook looks fine to me. First Light (talk) 03:20, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Casa de Mi Padre

Portrait of forward facing, smiling, middle aged man from chest up wearing a blue jacket and burgundy baseball cap.

Created by TriiipleThreat (talk). Self nom at 13:00, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Steven Hallard, Richard Priestman

Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 11:39, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Organocerium chemistry

  • Comment: This is my 5th DYK, will review an article after this one.

Created by Mdlevin (talk). Self nom at 04:58, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of sources about claims that Vojsava Kastrioti was Slav

Created by Antidiskriminator (talk). Self nom at 00:10, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article is at AfD. Schwede66 01:15, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I was not notified about AfD according to Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion#Notifying_interested_people. I propose this nomination to wait until decision about AfD is made. I will follow the process and present the information about decision here.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:46, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The normal DYK convention is that a nomination is on hold while an article goes through an AfD process. When the decision is to keep an article, then things will swing into action here. Schwede66 18:15, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Even if the article is kept, which looks unlikely, there's no content here to make a DYK from. Your proposed hook is a statement about the article, not about the subject - it would be like, instead of saying "most of the remaining redwoods in Oregon are in the Winchuck River watershed," saying "Winchuck River contains a geobox river template." Roscelese (talkcontribs) 20:46, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • I plan to expand the article to contain more than 1.500 characters of prose. It was my mistake to nominate it without doing it first, but I did not know that "The listed items themselves are not counted as part of the 1,500 DYK qualifying characters." Would it be better to renominate this article when I do it, if it survives AfD, or to place this nomination "on hold" until then?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 13:18, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Winchuck River

Created by Finetooth (talk). Self nom at 23:00, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Neil Stevens

Created by Giants2008 (talk). Self nom at 22:51, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date, size, reference all OK. You could perhaps include the lacrosse award as well, as per ALT1 below, or would that be too long-winded? Struway2 (talk) 09:57, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 ... that sportswriter Neil Stevens was presented with the Hockey Hall of Fame's Elmer Ferguson Memorial Award in 2008, and was inducted to the National Lacrosse League Hall of Fame in the same year?
The only problem I see with that is that I'm not 100% sure what his induction status is with the NLL Hall of Fame. Their website shows him under "Media Recognition", and not with the yearly classes.[32] Giants2008 (27 and counting) 02:38, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough, I hadn't grasped the difference. Could word it "and was recognized by" (does it have a "z" in AmEng?), but it's not quite so exciting. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:15, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Arroyo Seco, Querétaro

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 18:37, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion and date check out, but only source for claim in hook is in Spanish. Is there no English language source for such an amazing fact? -AndrewDressel (talk) 23:48, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Messier 91

Messier 91

  • ... that Messier 91 (pictured) was a missing object in Messier's catalogue until William C. Williams rediscovered it in 1969?

Expanded 5X; from 310 characters of prose to 1955 characters of prose --TitanOne (talk) 14:51, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • date, expansion verified, DYK hook verified. Image license of File:Messier91.jpg verified.
  • DYK hook seems to be boring for non-specialist. Many people do not know that Messier have lived in 18th century. I think, that William C. Williams does need to be mentioned in the hook. How about much more simple hook?
ALT1: ... that the 63 million light-years away galaxy Messier 91 was discovered in the 18th century and rediscovered 188 years later?

--Snek01 (talk) 22:14, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that ALT1 is much more interesting, and I've struck out the original hook for clarity. Tweaked ALT1 for grammar and added wikilinks. TitanOne, given that you appear to be working on a few of these articles, when they meet DYK requirements, they are automatically no longer stubs. Can you thus please remove the stub tags and reassess them as start class (or at least, remove the stub class there, too, and leave it unassessed for somebody else to deal with it) as part of the nomination process? Schwede66 22:43, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Williams in 1969 only reassigned the discovery date from 1784 to 1781 and discoverer name from Herschel to Messier - I don't think he qualifies as a "rediscoverer" (Herschel does). Perhaps we need another hook. Maybe something quirky about the "bookkeeping" mistake, but at the moment it is poorly sourced and I'm not sure it was actually "bookkeeping" problem. Materialscientist (talk) 05:46, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
To avoid words "rediscover" and exact interval of time, I have tried to formulate ALT2:
ALT2: ... that the 63 million light-years away galaxy Messier 91 was discovered in the 18th century, but it was added to Messier's catalogue two centuries later?

--Snek01 (talk) 08:38, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for the clarification guys. I actually like Snek01's alt. --TitanOne (talk) 13:47, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2 is good to go. Schwede66 18:34, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

problems are: (i) long adjective which most people won't grasp (is 63 million ly much or not?) (ii) many people won't know when Messier catalogue was compiled. I would suggest

ALT3: ... that although Charles Messier discovered the galaxy M91 in 1781, it was added to his catalogue only two centuries later? Materialscientist (talk) 00:06, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3 has shortest (the best) hook and very good wording. Thanks for suggestion. --Snek01 (talk) 21:48, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jack the Giant Killer (2012 film)

Created by TriiipleThreat (talk). Self nom at 12:50, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Sectoral representation in the House of Representatives of the Philippines

Mikey Arroyo wearing a suit and tie.

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 12:09, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Clara Clarita. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 12:26, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Clara Clarita

Clara Clarita

Created by Gatoclass (talk). Self nom at 12:05, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"One mile and a quarter in just two hours and a half" is precisely 1/2 mph. But if you want confirmation, you only have to look at the next reference in line, following the sentence Jerome's account was corroborated by two further letters to the Times, from E. Riggs and Clara Clarita's commander, Captain Alex Smith, which states that the yacht "went at the extraordinary rate of about half a knot", here. Gatoclass (talk) 12:33, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but like I said it should've more explicit, like "one mile and a quarter in just two hours and a half (1/2 mph)". I reckon most people are not into boat speeds and may not realize that knot is about as equal as 1 mph, nor do they have to mentally compute 0.525 mi/2.5 hrs=1/5 mph. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 12:53, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the "half a knot" comment is not included in the article - I used the 1/2 mile per hour statement precisely because far more people know what mph means than knot. In relation to your comment however, I think "one mile and a quarter in just two hours and a half" ought to be perfectly accessible to anyone with even the most rudimentary grasp of arithmetic. Gatoclass (talk) 13:21, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'll let others have their take on this. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 13:54, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I added an explicit reference to "1/2 mph" to the article.[33] Gatoclass (talk) 06:43, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think this hook is deliberately misleading. The article clearly states that it reached a speed of 12 mph; nowhere does it say that the boat had a maximum speed of 0.5 as the hook implies. BigDom (talk) 15:35, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The yacht reached a speed of 12 mph after its original engine was replaced. The original engine could only manage a speed of 1/2 mph, when the yacht was new. That is a simple, verifiable statement of fact. Gatoclass (talk) 16:55, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No it's not a fact, or at least the article doesn't say that it is. The fact that the boat travelled 1.25 miles in 2.5 hours does not mean, in any way, that it reached a maximum speed of 0.5 mph, it means that its average speed was 0.5 mph on that particular voyage. Indeed, it is more than likely that higher speeds were reached that day. There is no evidence that the boat could only manage 0.5 mph. BigDom (talk) 17:18, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That would have to be about the most pedantic point I have ever encountered on this page. You think the hook is misleading because you can hypothesize that maybe the boat went a fraction faster at some point in its 2 1/2 hour voyage? Please be reasonable. The point is that the engine was a piece of useless junk, if it managed to go at 0.6 mph at some point in its voyage and 0.4 at another, that is hardly a reason to challenge the hook as "misleading". Gatoclass (talk) 18:31, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Most of this discussion could be rendered moot if anyone had considered writing an alt hook, so how about:
ALT1:... that Sir Winston Churchill's American grandfather paid $125,000 for a new luxury steam yacht, Clara Clarita (pictured), that managed only an average speed of ½ mph (0.8 km/h)? OCNative (talk) 00:48, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I considered that, but I think it weakens the hook unnecessarily. I don't see any point in quibbling about "average" and "maximum" speeds for a boat that could only manage 1/2 mph. What sort of "maximum" speed worthy of the name would such a boat be capable of? Certainly none of the sources bothered to record one, and the second source states clearly that the boat ""went at the extraordinary rate of about half a knot"[34] - what else needs to be said? Gatoclass (talk) 04:20, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Wharton Reef Light

Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 10:06, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks for letting me know on my user talk page that there is a problem</sarcasm>. This source states very clearly "It is the only survivor of a series of 20 acetylene-burning automatic lights...", and indeed it should have been cited inline. I added it now. --Muhandes (talk) 18:12, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Monastery of the Virgins

Created by Poliocretes (talk). Self nom at 09:21, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hodgen's Cemetery Mound

A grass-covered mound in a cemetery with a tree growing from the top

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 03:40, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


HMS Polyanthus (K47)

Created by Leidseplein (talk). Self nom at 04:04, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

now shorter. Leidseplein (talk) 04:17, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've trimmed the hook some more and given it a tweak. Gatoclass (talk) 06:28, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Gendang beleq

Gendang beleq musicians.

created by Awewe (talk). Self nom at 22:02, 14 April 2011 (UTC+8)

Honey Bee (Blake Shelton song)

Created by TenPoundHammer (talk). Self nom at 02:48, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 15

Morića Han

Created by Antidiskriminator (talk). Self nom at 13:40, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Vittorio Arrigoni

Created by Ittakezou0 (talk). Nominated by ברוקולי (talk) at 20:35, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • This article was not created by Ittakezou0 but by User:Jalapenos do exist. If I am not wrong, it does not affect the review of the hook? Date is ok, size ok. The source does not mention that "alleged Palestinian terror group" hanged Arrigoni. The source say that he was found hanged and nothing about who did it. Term alleged is violation of WP:Peacock, WP:ALLEGED.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 13:32, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lagmann mac Gofraid

5x expanded by Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk). Self nom at 06:42, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comesperma sphaerocarpum, Comesperma

small purple pea-like flower

Created by Casliber (talk), Poyt448 (talk). Self nom at 10:18, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Betrayal (1929 film)

Created by MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 06:41, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

International reaction to the demolition of the Babri mosque

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Self nom at 06:33, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Orphans' Decree

Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 03:23, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Abutilon pitcairnense

  • ... that Abutilon pitcairnense was considered extinct for 20 years until a single plant was rediscovered in 2003, which died in a landslide in 2005, but that other plants were propagated from it before it died?

Created by First Light (talk). Self nom at 02:58, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

SS Ranpura

Created by JKBrooks85 (talk). Self nom at 23:24, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lynn Borden

ALT... that actress Lynn Borden, who appeared in the final season of the Shirley Booth sitcom Hazel, was the 1957 Miss Arizona?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:18, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Dave Liddell : Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:25, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think the original hook is the best. Date, length, hook ref all verified. I removed the elephants from the hook, though, because the elephants came first, not the frogs, and it seems to read better without the elephants. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:03, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Amate

  • ... that despite being banned by Spanish colonial authorities in Mexico the making of amate or bark paper never disappeared?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 20:57, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1st Airlanding Brigade (United Kingdom)


X 5 expansion and self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 15:59, 15 April 2011 (UTC) [reply]

Reviewed Douglas 2229 below

Douglas 2229

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 15:14, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The hook, at 206 characters, is a little too long, and, more importantly, isn't too clear. It makes me picture the airplane sitting around making suggestions. ALT1 is 197 characters:
  • ALT1: ... that after plans for the Douglas 2229 SST had no room for fuel other than in the fuselage, a designer sketched a cartoon with diving suit-clad passengers immersed in fuel, under "No Smoking" signs? MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 23:10, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

...And the Native Hipsters

Created by Bruce1ee (talk). Self nom at 14:07, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1893–94 Small Heath F.C. season

Created by Struway2 (talk). Self nom at 11:08, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Good to go. for alt-1 only, which I happen to think is much more interesting anyway. I think alt-1 is the better hook. Although the reference states that there were no draws, there are several in the tables. If the "draws" hook is used, it should be re-worded to note that "without drawing a match" came during regular divisional play and not across all competitions (this isn't readily apparent to non-soccer/football-oriented readers). Cheers. — KV5Talk17:47, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

National Schools of Art, Havana

National Schools of Art, Havana, Cuba

Created by DuendeThumb (talk). Self nom at 00:09, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

* Way more than a 5× expansion, offline source accepted in good faith. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 02:49, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT1 sounds like a good hook to me. It deals more directly with the article's content, though the original (too-long) hook was in fact directly cited in the article (p. 21, Loomis' Revolution of Forms). That said, ALT1 is good User:DuendeThumb —Preceding undated comment added 04:49, 18 April 2011 (UTC).[reply]

2011 Cirebon bombing

created by Awewe (talk).
Please proof read as I am NOT a native English sepeaker Self nom at 20:12, 15 April 2011 (UTC+8)

I did some editing. Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:32, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Andy Hansen

A black-and-white photograph of a man wearing a white pinstriped baseball jersey with "Phillies" across the chest and a dark undershirt; he is holding a baseball in his lap with both hands and wears a baseball cap with a white "P" on the face atop his head

Created by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 17:58, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed 1893–94 Small Heath F.C. season. Also note the merged edit history; this draft has been in my userspace a long time and was recently moved to mainspace over a stub which had been created during the course of my work. — KV5Talk17:58, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Two-mass-skate bicycle

Created by AndrewDressel (talk). Self nom at 16:12, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, a new criteria, as of Feb 1, it seems. Okay then.

Battle of Caldera Bay

Created by Buggie111 (talk). Self nom at 23:52, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No Me Queda Mas (music video)

Created by AJona1992 (talk). Self nom at 01:17, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The hook is cited only to another Wikipedia article,[41] which itself is cited only to Amazon. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 06:37, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And the problem is? The citation doesn't have an online resource, besides YahooMusic! and imdb, if that's the case: can I just replace them with these? AJona1992 (talk) 12:40, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have opened a merge discussion, so please hold this DYK until it is closed. Adabow (talk · contribs) 07:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 16

Avenue Habib Bourguiba

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 10:53, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed George B. Jackson

Csóványos

  • ...that the dense forest in the area around Csóványos in Northern Hungary has been described as "almost mystic"?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 10:43, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed :Mike LoanDr. Blofeld 10:48, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mitchell Ayres

Created by User:We hope (talk). Self nom at 01:44, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Liberty Cinema

Created by Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 05:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC). Self nom at 05:28, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Length, reference and history verified. Daniel Case (talk) 16:49, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewed: James Parfitt [43] Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 05:36, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

HMS Diamond (H22)

A white-painted warship at anchor in front of a large hill studded with buildings

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Self nom at 05:02, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Commelina cyanea

blue-flowered herb

  • ... that the Australian creeping plant Commelina cyanea (pictured) is known as scurvy weed as early settlers ate it to ward off scurvy?

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 00:52, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

United States Trust Company theft

Created by JKBrooks85 (talk). Self nom at 22:56, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

James Parfitt

Created by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 21:44, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 05:33, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Percy Saint

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:20, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed 2011 Cirebon bombing

Sally Bowles

5x expanded by Harley Hudson (talk). Self nom at 20:53, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Austin Tweed

Created by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 20:58, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A year would be good. I've added one to the hook. -AndrewDressel (talk) 23:03, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Addition of year reverted. As Victuallers once said, "Hooks are like exotic underwear, they shouldn't show everything." The hook was intentionally written to play off of certain widely held assumptions based upon current political dialogs. Adding too much information, like the fact the event occurred in 1870, destroys those assumptions and significantly weakens the hook. --Allen3 talk 01:42, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander (son of Ivan Shishman)

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 16:17, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jaigarh Fort

Jaigarh Fort compound
  • ... that a three month search carried out for treasures by an Army unit at Jaigarh Fort (pictured) in Rajasthan, did not find any treasures?

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 15:27, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jaivana Canon in Jaigarh Fort
  • ALT Hook… that Jaigarh Fort in Rajasthan which was a center of artillery production has the world's largest cannon on wheels, the Jaivana (pictured) on display?
  • An interesting article. I Prefer ALT Hook, but why did you attributed this canon to the medieval period? It was manufactured between 1699-1743 - two centuries after mediaeval period. Please explain me. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 22:11, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for your observations. The plaque at the site and other book references attribute it as "Medieval period". However, you are right and I have therefore now deleted the two words now.--Nvvchar. 05:57, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Timothy E. Gregory

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 14:33, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Betrayal (1929 film)Dr. Blofeld 14:49, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Luoji Township

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 13:11, 16 April 2011 (UTC) Reviewed AmateDr. Blofeld 14:49, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • - I would tweak the hook to state "matsutake mushrooms" in it (as the rules are specific about this fungus)

Sure, although the source which refers to the mushrooms laws doesn't mention Matsutake, just mushroom. I didn't want anybody questioning that..♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:20, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it does. Look in the first sentence "To a matsutake harvester..." and also the discussion under the five laws. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:33, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

matsutake it is then!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:46, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Titan Cup

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Self nom at 10:30, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Opsismodysplasia

Created by Rcej (talk). Self nom at 09:04, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed Ernst Cadman Colwell. Rcej (Robert) - talk 09:06, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK. Published source accepted in good faith. Verne Equinox (talk) 16:34, April 16, 2011 (UTC)
Its an online source... I had the wrong one cited. All fixed now! :) Rcej (Robert) - talk 06:38, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Semper Fidelis (march)

A black-and-white photograph of a man wearing a military uniform

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 05:37, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Braeburn Range

Created by Dramatic (talk). Self nom at 09:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Made these changes. Age and size are good. The article, however, does not state that these snails are found only above the bush line, and the provided source states that they are found just below, just above, and at the bush line. -AndrewDressel (talk) 14:58, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If you re-read the reference, it initially says the "just below, just above and at", but in reference to all three populations (the other two are 10-20 km away). It then says that they have only been found above the bushline on Mount Murchison. Also, I have reverted your change to the reference title: It's a single white paper (distributed online in three parts for size reasons) with a single purpose, and the document title should be used rather than a single chapter heading. dramatic (talk) 17:54, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
When I first looked at the reference, it looked like this, so I did my best to fix it. I'm glad you were able to make it even better. If the snails are only above the bush line on Mount Murchison, then I think the hook should say so. Also, the article does not state that the snails are only found above the bush line. Instead, it states that the area above the bush line on Mount Murchison is one of three isolated habitats. -AndrewDressel (talk) 20:05, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 17

Bir Hima Rock Petroglyphs and Inscriptions

Petroglyph at Bir Hima in Saudi Arabia

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk) a. Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 10:32, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Nilar TheinDr. Blofeld 10:36, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

De Nederlandse Bachvereniging

Grote of St. Vituskerk, interior of a high Gothic church facing the altar

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 07:39, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • reviewed: #Mitchell Ayres. - The article is - of course - suggested for Good Friday, 22 April. I took it from the German Wikipedia, which comes without inline citations. The German article is a translation of the Dutch which I can't read. I will work on more refs, any help by people knowing nl is appreciated. The hook fact and many others are supported by the New York Times, and I like the quote (also there) of a Dutch minister: "St. Matthew’ during Holy Week is bigger in the Netherlands than Messiah at Christmas anywhere else." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:59, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Everything is Terrible!

Created by MuZemike (talk). Self nom at 06:16, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1 (if the first one is a bit too wordy to work):

MuZemike 06:16, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Hierapolis sawmill. –MuZemike 06:39, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Boston and Montana Consolidated Copper and Silver Mining Company

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 01:07, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Elliott Perkins

A black and white line drawing from the late 1800s of a slightly balding Caucasian man with a walrus mustache, dressed in formal clothes

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 00:51, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


George B. Jackson

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 00:32, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Galesburg Station (Santa Fe)

Offline hook taken in good faith. Good to go, providing nobody objects to using the term "colored man". in a hook.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:56, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hal Stalmaster

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 22:21, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: The Rocky Mountains, Lander's Peak

Richard Waghorn

Created by MilborneOne (talk). Nominated by E2eamon (talk) at 21:13, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Galesburg Station (Santa Fe)

Created by Gfoley4 (talk). Self nom at 20:15, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The hook is off line and presumably checks out, but the title of the article is too misleading to be useful to readers in my opinion. I don't think readers would not associate "Galesburg" with "Santa Fe". Billy Hathorn (talk) 00:37, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What do you suggest? Something like "Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway Depot (Galesburg, Illinois)"? GFOLEY FOUR03:35, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Yes, the longer title would be better in this case. Billy Hathorn (talk) 10:57, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Rocky Mountains, Lander's Peak

Mountain landscape painting with Native Americans in the foreground.

Created by Lampman (talk). Self nom at 19:54, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:30, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

James Russell (baseball)

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Giants27 (talk). Self nom at 19:34, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Iosif Begun

Created by Mhym (talk). Self nom at 19:22, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tainosia

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 17:33, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date and length ok. Only half of this hook seems to check out from the link provided, however; it confirms that the Taino people are the origin of the name but not Hispaniola. Perhaps the author means "the Taino people of Hispaniola" rather than "and"? If so, I approve.Khazar (talk) 03:02, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Doublechecked this and saw my mistake. The hook is properly sourced, and I just wasn't reading closely enough.Khazar (talk) 03:06, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Palaeoperenethis

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 17:14, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tie Me Up! Tie Me Down!

5x expanded and sourced by Miguelemejia (talk). Self nom at 13:04, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ristikontra

  • ... that in the Finnish card game Ristikontra, you win a trick by playing another card of the same rank as the first card in the trick?
  • Comment: Article is relatively short, but that's in part because the variants section does not count towards article length, and in part because this game is not well documented at all. I can't write much more about the topic without interviewing players or otherwise engaging in OR.

Created by Hans Adler (talk). Self nom at 12:50, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rewards and Fairies

Created by Dabbler (talk). Self nom at 12:01, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nice little article, but too short. It needs to have 1500 characters to qualify for DYK, but only has 481 (excluding references), so will need some extra work.Philipjelley (talk) 13:59, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The DYK criteria - Long enough says "Articles must have a minimum of 1,500 characters of prose (ignoring infoboxes, categories, references, lists, tables, etc.)" This article has 2844 excluding references and categories. I am including the brief descriptions of each story as they are prose and not organized as a table. Dabbler (talk) 18:58, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I used wordcount, it should be 2792 charactersPhilipjelley (talk) 19:49, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No, bullet-pointed lists do not count towards the amount of prose. According to the DYKcheck tool, there are 1017 characters of readable prose so it needs expanding. BigDom (talk) 08:41, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have expanded (and reformatted) the page significantly to include descriptions of the poems. Please review.Dabbler (talk) 10:36, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Experiment (album)

A man with black hair wearing sunglasses, a black t-shirt and denim jeans and jacket is performing to a crowd.

5x expanded by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 07:30, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article date, length, and ref all check out. However, the lede could be better sourced (all the refs for this already seem to be in the article). I'll try to do a little of this myself Khazar (talk) 14:25, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, but I removed per WP:LEADCITE the lead should have fewer/no citations to make it punchier and easier to read. Adabow (talk · contribs) 20:19, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Marcos Mateo

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Giants27 (talk). Self nom at 23:44, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Itinerarium Romanum Serbiae

Created by WhiteWriter (talk). Self nom at 22:30, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • There we go again with the 17 Roman emperors claim... I insist on this being removed from the article, as it is a fork of the deleted List of Roman emperors born on the territory of Republic of Serbia. Here's also my judgement as to why this list of emperors is misleading and poorly sourced: [50] (look for the ‘List of Roman emperors born on the territory of Republic of Serbia’ discussion). I am strongly opposed to featuring this article on DYK as long as it includes unsubstantiated claims about 17/18 Roman emperors being born in Serbia, or the forked list of emperors from the deleted article. Toдor Boжinov 13:28, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • All of those sources are fixed. Also, article is heavily sourced, and that list represent only one part of the great Itinerarium Romanum Serbiae project. That former discussion is not useful here, with different subject, sources and all other. Also, i moved it to user space, as that list could not be stand alone article, but in its full content like this, it can. And its not my claim, reliable references are in the article. All claims are referenced, and i hope that you check that first, before you have strongly opposed. --WhiteWriter speaks 21:06, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Regardless of the sourcing concerns above (which I haven't reviewed for), this doesn't meet DYK specs currently anyway, because lists are not part of the prose requirement, and this is mostly a list. You currently have 1396 characters of prose and you need a minimum of 1500. — KV5Talk01:21, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Azimzhan Askarov

Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 02:05, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, ALT1 it is.Khazar (talk) 20:06, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Anthony Sadowski

Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 05:38, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 18

Richard Burt (skier)

Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 11:31, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Povilas Budrys

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 11:00, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nilar Thein

Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 02:57, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Tainosia. Khazar (talk) 03:03, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, and hook verified. I recommend though that another editor checks it to sure it is neutral as such issues are often sensitive ones.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:35, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mike Loan

Created by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 00:48, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed #Semper Fidelis (march). — KV5Talk00:48, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length and hook approved. Good to go.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:46, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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April 21 (Maundy Thursday)

Last Supper in Christian art

Created by History2007 (talk). Self nom at 14:04, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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April 22 (Good Friday)

Jesus at Herod's Court

Jesus at Herod's Court

Created by History2007 (talk). Nominated by LiteralKa (talk) at 17:08, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • And the Bible passage next to it doesn't count as a citation? LiteralKa (talk) 02:10, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • comment: I hope for someone to go over the prose and improve "... in which Jesus appears before Herod Antipas in Jerusalem, prior to the Crucifixion of Jesus", for example. - "The scene" (in the hook) reads like theater, I would not present that on Good Friday when believers remember facts. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:52, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have found a source that says that only Luke talked about it. I also second the motion that it should be held to be used on Good Friday. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 19:59, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How's that as an improved hook? The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 20:03, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The problem with ALT1 is that multiple Bible commentaries mention the story and thus make the hook technically untrue. I would suggest
"Appears" is different from "mentioned". LiteralKa (talk) 02:10, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

to Alt2. Seems good to me, I think that it is only right that we have at least 1 Christian based DYK on the main page on Good Friday. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 20:13, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, that happened so fast. I did not know you guys where DYKing this. I only started writing it earlier today & had not checked it. Anyway, I added a more WP:RS source for the suggested hook. As for text improvements, go for it - I wrote it really quickly, so I will leave it to you guys to make it DYK presentable. Cheers. History2007 (talk) 20:13, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • This seems also a bit too fast to me. I would have left it in the suggestion section for more people to watch. The prose still says "Jesus appears ... before the crucifixion of Jesus" (... "before his crucifixion", if at all). For the source: can you get something more reliable then bible study or offline? For the hook: let's assume readers around the globe who don't know what "the Luke" is. Suggestion:
ALT3:... that of the Four Evangelists, only Luke reported the episode of Jesus at Herod's Court (pictured)?
Wha does "more reliable than offline" mean? I think you should AGF it, but if you still want to check, there you go. Also this and this. And I think ALT2 works fine, mentioning the Evangelists opens Gospel authorship questions, a Pandora's box that is best left closed on a DYK line on Good Friday. History2007 (talk) 23:04, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am not reviewing this, just commenting. Clarifying: "more reliable than bible study" meant one thing, an online source preferable to an offline one another, English is not my first language. If the additional sources are good, insert them in the article, not here, please. - Personally, I know the hook fact from reading the Bible. But Wikipedia needs a source. - I remember a good article on a Christian fact, Circumcision of Christ, if you want a feeling for what can be done in the field. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:10, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Actually there are three WP:RS references for that fact in the article, as well as the Bible study ref. It is generally hard to find a scholarly book online, unless it is G-books, and those links are not usually used in articles. And above all else, this is a non-controversial fact in that no one has ever written that it appears in two Gospels, because they could not point to the 2nd Gospel. So the three book refs are well within WP:V territory, and that fact is really well referenced by general standards in Wikipedia. History2007 (talk) 09:40, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Halloween

Rhacophorus vampyrus

  • ... that the tadpole of the Vampire flying frog Rhacophorus vampyrus has two fang-like hooks in its mouth?

Created by Newone (talk), Ka Faraq Gatri (talk). Nominated by Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) at 14:59, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment If the article meets DYK criteria, suggest moving it to Special Occasions section and keeping for Halloween. The authors of the paper on which this article is substantially based have stated that they intend to publish a separate paper on the tadpoles of this species so the move would also allow time for any material from this paper (assuming it is published in time) to be incorporated. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 16:56, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's confirmed. I agree that this should be kept for Halloween, especially as "A detailed description of the new tadpole will be published separately." which might be available by October. It's certainly an early start for the Halloween collection, does anyone think it is a problem to save it until then? SmartSE (talk) 23:41, 10 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
SUPPORT waiting till Halloween, esp. if we can get a good, free picture of the scary tadpoles. --PFHLai (talk) 04:06, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've moved this as there were no objections. If someone wants to make a subpage for it, like we have for April Fools' nominations then feel free. SmartSE (talk) 12:46, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Halloween is just under 10 months away. I can't help thinking that if every vaguely ghoulish or spooky article is saved up that long, it will create a massive backlog (and a precedent for other days). After all, there are only 3-4 sessions of 6 or 7 hooks available for any particular day. Bob talk 22:26, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I have a raised eyebrow over this. Essentially were promoting an article to DYK, which in over half a year will appear on the main page. Would not this article be substatiannnly different from the one reviewed giving that theres 7+ months between creation and DYK appearance? Ottawa4ever (talk) 15:14, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Good points. This article could be significantly different from the one reviewed by 31st October depending on whether or not the group concerned have published their second paper on the species (one which focuses specifically on the unusual tadpoles) by then. As it stands the article was written from all the extant scientific literature on the species (a single paper) and a smattering of popular press coverage (who probably won't ever revisit the species, unless a big deal is made out of the second paper). It is possible someone will re-write the article from the current sources, however, most articles on obscure species (of which this is one) don't have very high edit levels. For comparison, a large number of articles on other species in the same genus were created by Polbot and haven't been significantly altered since their creation in 2007. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 16:14, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your input. Ive opened a larger discussion here; Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Rhacophorus_vampyrus. Its not just that the article may be different, but also that dyk is in the spirit of new articles or recently expanded ones. As such (I feel) queing an article for 10 months is misleading our readers since it is a violation of both leading principles of dyk. Ottawa4ever (talk) 10:29, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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