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Articles created/expanded on August 19
- ...that Augustasaurus' name comes from the mountain range of northwestern Nevada, where its fossil bones were first discovered? selfnom, Ryan shell (talk) 22:40, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that prowrestler Gregg Groothuis's ringname "Jack Bull" was inspired by an interview with Dusty Rhodes, in which Rhodes described looking into a ring full of bulls? New article, self-nom. NOTE: I am not aware of any issues that might be involved here, as this page was created through WP:AFC. I merely found this fact when reviewing the article a few hours after creating it for the IP user, found that it was unsourced, looked through the sources till I found one that verified this statement, and then cited it. Please look this one over carefully. Thank you. Mess around with the guy in shades all you like - don't mess around with the girl in gloves! (talk) 21:46, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that after being declared defeated, Henry Overstolz successfully contested the mayoral election and unseated James Britton to become the twenty-fourth mayor of St. Louis, Missouri? - self nom by Millbrooky (talk) 21:04, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ...that Albert White was implicated in the University of Michigan basketball scandal but not named in the indictments; it was unclear how much money he received and how much went to his friend and family.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:02, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ...that João Maria de Sousa is the current Attorney General of Angola? - self nom Boston (talk) 19:23, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ...that poet Rosemonde Gérard’s best-known phrase, “plus qu’hier et ... moins que demain” (more than yesterday and less than tomorrow) appeared in a poem, but became known when a jeweler engraved it on a medallion 17 years later? (translation makes the hook a bit long, but may be necessary) - self-nom; new Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 17:38, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ALT: that a phrase from poet Rosemonde Gérard became well-known when a jeweler engraved it on a medallion? - Boston (talk) 20:54, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/48/Kachemak1.jpg/100px-Kachemak1.jpg)
- ...that the tides at Kachemak Bay, Alaska are the second largest in the world, with an average vertical difference of fifteen feet, and recorded extremes of twenty eight feet? --self-nom, prose expanded 5x by Livitup (talk) 17:29, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ...that the 1995 Pacific Grand Prix was delayed until October of that year because of the Great Hanshin earthquake? -self-nom; expanded, --D.M.N. (talk) 17:17, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ...that RTÉ series, Sex & Sensibility, examined the sexual revolution in Ireland, including The Riordans character who went on the pill? -self-nom, --Candlewicke (Talk) 16:15, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ...that 22-year-old ski jumper Anette Sagen played the mother of 70-year-old Bård Owe in the Norwegian movie O' Horten? - self-nom - Lampman (talk) 16:11, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ...that Ruby Bundleflower, an abundant weed in parts of Mexico, produces beans used in salsa? - self nom by Boston (talk) 14:35, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
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- ... that Marie Heim-Vögtlin (pictured), Switzerland's first woman physician, was required by law to have her husband's consent in order to be allowed to work? — Self-nom by Sandstein 13:52, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Dog_attack_%28USAF%29.jpg/100px-Dog_attack_%28USAF%29.jpg)
- ... that 10% of dog attacks in the United States were caused by canines trained to be attack dogs? -- expanded (main prose) 5x, self-nom by ~ AmeIiorate U T C @ 11:23, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/Wc0042-3b13159r.jpg/100px-Wc0042-3b13159r.jpg)
- ... that the Oldham by-election of 1899 was the first election fought by Winston Churchill, but he lost? Self-nomination by Sam Blacketer (talk) 10:57, 19 August 2008 (UTC) (note that the image is of Churchill in 1900 but it gives a good idea of what he looked like in 1899)
It probably gives a good idea of what he looked like after he lost... I looked up the Times reference and the results check out, but the article doesn't actually say that it was his first election. Lampman (talk) 17:17, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- That's a fairly odd objection. For one thing, Churchill (born in November 1874) couldn't have been a candidate at the previous general election in July - August 1895, because the minimum age was then 21. For another, at the time of this by-election he was only 24, and he had to resign from the Army in order to enter into politics; he was a member of the Army from coming of age until the Oldham by-election and hadn't resigned his commission beforehand. For a third, every biography of Churchill will tell you this was his first election, or list it as the first election. Are you saying you need an explicit source saying in terms that it was the first election fought by Churchill? There are stacks of them, try note 75 here for an example. However I do think that's a fairly strange thing to ask. Sam Blacketer (talk) 21:03, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Gabon's national park system takes up 10% of its land area? New article by --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 04:44, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that US Army Brigadier General James Dalton II was one of only 11 US general officers killed in action during World War II? Cla68 (talk) 03:11, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
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- Oops, I should have read the rules closer. I didn't realize that stub articles couldn't be used. Please disregard. Cla68 (talk) 06:16, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Orsini podestà of Viterbo was displaced by Charles of Anjou and replaced with a magistrate willing to expel the Orsini cardinals from the papal election, 1280–1281 in order to clear the way for the election of the pro-Angevin Pope Martin IV? Savidan 02:49, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hook is at 253 characters. Mastrchf (t/c) 02:55, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that former Major League Baseball player Dan Norman was once traded with three other players for Hall of Famer Tom Seaver, as part of what New York Mets fans refer to as the Midnight Massacre? -- new article self-nom by Rlendog (talk) 00:26, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- If Seaver was still active then, he was a future Hall of Famer. --74.14.21.91 (talk) 02:05, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Hindus believe that donation of a kamandalu, a kind of water-pot, in the funeral rituals ensures that the deceased has ample drinking water in his after-life journey? self-nom. --Redtigerxyz (talk) 05:37, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
![Lactarius blennius](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a3/Lactarius_blennius_-_Lindsey.jpg/100px-Lactarius_blennius_-_Lindsey.jpg)
- ... that Lactarius blennius (pictured) has been described by various mycologists as edible, inedible and even poisonous? - Self nom. J Milburn (talk) 16:35, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ...that during his tenure as president of Farm Credit of New Mexico, Bruce McAbee launched a US$250,000 scholarship program based at New Mexico State University? (self-nom, new article) Ecoleetage (talk) 19:14, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 18
- ... that a storyline featuring the character Tracy Jordan having to wear an alcohol monitoring ankle bracelet, in the untitled ninth episode of the second season of 30 Rock, was based on a similar incident that happened to actor Tracy Morgan, the year before? - [User]Jamie JCA[Talk] 23:16, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ALT: ... that Kay Cannon, a writer for 30 Rock, appeared in an episode of the series "Episode 209", as a Human Table. -- [User]Jamie JCA[Talk] 23:15, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the underground Home Army courier, Irena Adamowicz, provided communication and moral support for the Jewish ghettos of several distant cities during the occupation of Poland? -- New article, self-nom by Poeticbent talk 18:35, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/NTRFlowers.jpg/100px-NTRFlowers.jpg)
- ... that NTR Gardens (pictured), which was built in the memory of actor-politician N. T. Rama Rao, was actually a water body until 1994? -- self nom and 5x expansion by Mspraveen (talk) 11:32, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- I like the photo. - Boston (talk) 15:10, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the ancient Roman Republic had a constitution, with a separation of powers and checks and balances, and that in 82 BC it was reformed by a general named Lucius Cornelius Sulla? -- new article self-nom by RomanHistorian (talk)
- ... that in late 1914, the American cargo ship SS Montanan was fired upon by a Japanese warship off the Pacific coast of Mexico? -- new article self-nom by Bellhalla (talk) 04:10, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Morenci_Copper_Mines_1903.jpg/100px-Morenci_Copper_Mines_1903.jpg)
- ... that the town of Morenci, Arizona (copper mines depicted, right) was founded to provide miners working for the Detroit Copper Mining Company of Arizona with housing and other services? - new article (selfnom) Tim1965 (talk) 23:32, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that 1994's Hurricane Gilma is the most intense Pacific hurricane to occur in July? (self-nom) Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 23:24, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Article was not expanded 5x, (1151 to 2788 or 2.4X) and the reference cited for the hook [1] is a listing of data from NOAA with no headings so its unclear what it means just by looking at that page. --Captain-tucker (talk) 16:59, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that while Bruce Springsteen's song "One Step Up" is about a relationship breaking up, ironically the backing vocal was sung by his future wife Patti Scialfa? -- new article self-nom by Rlendog (talk) 22:45, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that steel guitarist John Hughey, who played for Vince Gill and Conway Twitty, was known for his "crying steel" playing method, which relied heavily on the instrument's upper range? (Self nom) Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 22:06, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Charlie Gardiner is the only goaltender to captain his team to a Stanley Cup victory? (Self-nom, 5x expansion) Maxim (☎) 20:38, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Length, date and hook verified. PeterSymonds (talk) 23:52, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that in 1935, Nicolaas Wilhelmus Posthumus founded the International Institute of Social History in the Netherlands to avoid destruction of socialist history documents by Nazi Germany? - new article (self nom) Protonk (talk) 19:56, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Article is too short, 1097 words using User:Dr_pda/prosesize.js. Also, and perhaps I am not reading the reference correctly but the reference seems to say that the institute was created for the preservation of archives of companies and related organizations and other sources relevant to economic history, not socialist history. And it says In view of the menace of fascism and barbarism in Germany and other European countries was the reason it was create, but it does not specifically say Nazi Germany. It's a very long reference document so please correct me if I am wrong. --Captain-tucker (talk) 15:57, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that mining and railroad magnate William E. Dodge, Jr. led the efforts to construct both the first and second buildings owned by the New York City chapter of the Young Men's Christian Association? - new article (selfnom) Tim1965 (talk) 18:57, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that James Douglas, the first president of the El Paso and Southwestern Railroad, was a professor of chemistry by trade? - new article (selfnom) Tim1965 (talk) 18:55, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Manhattan's Rose Hill neighborhood was the original site of Madison Square Garden, where millionaire Harry K. Thaw killed architect Stanford White in 1906, and is now home to the Museum of Sex? five-fold expansion by User:NYCfellow and self, nom by Alansohn (talk) 18:35, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- "... that Manhattan's Rose Hill was the original site of Madison Square Garden and is now home to the Museum of Sex?" is long enough. A hook doesn't need to encapsulate every interesting fact it can. It just needs to "hook" readers. - BOSTON - 22:15, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- I wasn't going for a just long enough hook, but I was trying to make a more interesting hook by connecting the Evelyn Nesbit sex scandal behind Thaw's shooting White at Madison Square Garden to the Museum of Sex. That there are two buildings that were or are in the same neighborhood wasn't quite as interesting a hook to me. Alansohn (talk) 00:50, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- "... that Manhattan's Rose Hill neighborhood was the original site of Madison Square Garden, where millionaire Harry K. Thaw killed architect Stanford White over Evelyn Nesbit"? Nothing catches the eye like love triangles, murder and scandal, the MoS is almost boring in comparison dm (talk) 06:09, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Joseph McGahn, an obstetrician elected to the New Jersey Senate, was eulogized by The New York Times as the "principal architect" of legislation bringing casino gambling to Atlantic City? new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 16:34, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that INSOR is the only non-government organization headed by president of Russia Dmitry Medvedev? --selfnom, new NVO (talk) 12:16, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that despite Israel's high standard of living, its poverty levels are still moderately high? (Self nom) Fatal!ty (talk) 10:00, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Meller's Chameleon catches insects 50 cm (20 inches) away with its tongue? - self nom by BOSTON - 22:15, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Length, date, and references verified.--Captain-tucker (talk) 17:40, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Uncle Tupelo's 1990 album No Depression is so associated with alternative country that its title is sometimes used as a synonym for the genre? Teemu08 (talk) 02:47, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that in recent times, the wild mushroom Lactarius piperatus has been used in the treatment of viral warts? Luridiformis (talk) 06:14, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Already nominated, and this is in the wrong section- they should be in the section for the day they were created. Feel free to suggest alternative hooks in the section below. J Milburn (talk) 16:06, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Redruth railway station was only moved to its present site when a viaduct was built 61 feet (19 m) above the streets of the town? (self nom; expanded from 131 to 3,023 characters) Geof Sheppard (talk) 10:47, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum had to auction off the world's largest mastodon skull after the curator made disparaging Internet comments about former associates?
- (Anyone still think just being blocked for flaming is too severe? :-) ) Self-nom. --GRuban (talk) 20:03, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Good hook. Can any part of its tail end ("...disparaging Internet comments...") be linked to anything? I like how the hook does NOT mention its a creationist museum...that's left as a surprise to the reader after they've been hooked. - BOSTON - 22:15, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. I was originally reluctant to make that into a link to Flaming (Internet), since that seems to risk oversimplifying, trivializing, or adding insult to injury, but if others think it doesn't do any of that, and does improve the hook, I won't fight to the death over it. --GRuban (talk) 14:07, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- Consider replacing "associates" with "business partners" or maybe "competitors" to preclude "associates = employees" interpretation.NVO (talk) 18:30, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Allen Bares, a former member of both houses of the Louisiana State Legislature, was in 1991 awarded the Medal of Merit by the nation of France for his work in promoting the French language?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 02:43, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
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- ... that Allen Bares, as a Louisiana state senator in 1991, was defeated for reelection after he authored legislation which would have outlawed most abortions in his state?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 02:43, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Winter Canal being only 228 meters long is one of the shortest canals in Saint Petersburg, Russia, yet it has three bridges over it? -- new article self-nom Wikiolap (talk) 15:22, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 17
- ...that Steve Grilli is credited as the losing pitcher in the longest professional baseball game when he gave up a run in the thirty-third inning? New article self nom by --Calor (talk) 18:03, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ...that Pinoy is a demonym referring to Filipino people in the United States, the Philippines and around the world? expanded from AfD, self-nom. Banjeboi 06:52, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- Note: this link will take you to the correct page for the reference. Banjeboi 08:26, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Swedish organist Alf Linder was reported to have learned the complete organ works of Bach by the age of 10? new article self-nom by Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 18:34, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the 430-foot-tall (131 m) Kyoto Tower (pictured) is the tallest man-made structure in the city of Kyoto? five-fold expansion, self-nom by --TorsodogTalk 07:19, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the North Baltimore Aquatic Club has produced seven Olympians, including Michael Phelps and Katie Hoff? new article (though there was a deleted article in 2007 due to copyvio), self-nom dm (talk) 04:32, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that 66th Street in the New York City borough of Manhattan had been proposed by Donald Trump as the site of a 150-story, 1,910 foot (580 m) building that would have been the world's tallest? five-fold expansion, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 03:04, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Mallet_menuisier.jpg/100px-Mallet_menuisier.jpg)
- ... that mazzatello—a method of execution employed in the Papal States in the 18th and 19th centuries—involved smashing a mallet (pictured) into the head of the condemned? Savidan 21:39, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- We're strongly implying that this pictured mallet was actually used for these executions. Do you have any evidence that it was? It seems in remarkably good condition for that age and usage. --GRuban (talk) 19:20, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- No such implication. This is just to let readers know what a Mallet looks like. It's obviously not the same one (not that the same one was used for all the executions). Savidan 02:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- We're strongly implying that this pictured mallet was actually used for these executions. Do you have any evidence that it was? It seems in remarkably good condition for that age and usage. --GRuban (talk) 19:20, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
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- ... the battleship Illinois (pictured), exhibited at the 1893 Columbian Exposition, was a full scale, detailed replica made of brick and cement? New article self-nom, by Tradermort 19:12, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Cyril de Zoysa developed one of the Bodhi trees of King Devanampiyatissa? - new article by Pectoretalk 19:01, 17 August 2008 (UTC) also nominated by Pectoretalk 19:01, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Archdiocese of New York fought unsuccessfully to have the National Museum of Catholic Art and History remove the word "Catholic" from its name? new article, co-written by User:Travellingcari and User:Brewcrewer, nominated by TravellingCari 18:07, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that one of the Works of Maya Angelou, Georgia, Georgia (1972), was the first film to be written and produced by an African American woman? - Self-nom by Figureskatingfan (talk) 17:34, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Celebrity Bainisteoir is an Irish reality programme about managing Gaelic football clubs? - self nom by User:Boston (talk) 17:16, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Harlan Kredit (pictured) was the first teacher from Washington State to be inducted into the National Teachers Hall of Fame? — self-nom, — The Man in Question (gesprec) · (forðung) 10:20, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Michael Redgrave owned White Roding Windmill during World War Two? New article created and self-nom by Mjroots (talk) 09:48, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Anglo-Irish baronet Sir Thomas Chapman lived part of his life under the name of Thomas Lawrence and became the father of Lawrence of Arabia? - self-nom by Xn4 (talk) 06:14, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- why not just "was the father" rather than "became"? Nice article. Johnbod (talk) 15:33, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- I think what was in my mind was to say in shorthand that he was the father of the child who became Lawrence of Arabia... but you're right, there's nothing wrong with "was the father of". Xn4 (talk) 14:17, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- why not just "was the father" rather than "became"? Nice article. Johnbod (talk) 15:33, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
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- ... that The Battle of Gibeah which nearly wiped out the Tribe of Benjamin was triggered by the death of a concubine (pictured)? (Self Nom - Expanded) Fatal!ty (talk) 06:06, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that film producer Shauna Robertson became an assistant to filmmaker Mike Binder after meeting him at a summer camp memorialized in his 1993 film Indian Summer? (self nom; fivefold expansion) —97198 talk 05:04, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- ALT: ... that Shauna Robertson claims her biggest preparation for becoming an organized film producer was her irresponsible family? Above is probably better. —97198 talk 05:04, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Petticoat Hill is said to be named after laundry hung on a clothesline? - self nom by Boston (talk) 04:32, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that pre-Columbian savanna once covered much of North America? -- new article self-nom by SEWilco (talk) 03:45, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Temple Beth Israel of Niagara Falls, New York was subject to repeated attacks leading to a federal investigation? -- self-nom, article created by me, and expanded today from 210 words to 1181 words. Jayjg (talk) 04:08, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Anglo-Zanzibar War is considered the shortest war in history and lasted around 40 minutes? - self nom 7.5 times expansion from 200 to 15000 characters - Dumelow (talk) 13:37, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Length, date, and reference verified. Lots of references available for this hook [2] --Captain-tucker (talk) 17:58, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the 12-story Lincoln Tower (pictured) is the tallest building in Washington County, Oregon? (self) Aboutmovies (talk) 09:47, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 16
- ... that after his first-class career ended, Tanzanian cricketer John Solanky played professional squash in Wales and later became a technology teacher in Northern Ireland? ~ Article by Andrew nixon; nominated by Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 22:04, 19 August 2008 (UTC). Ref 1 covers the relevant paragraph from the article.
- ... that following Neil Dewar’s transfer from the club, a Manchester United director was forced to resign due to his daughter eloping with the player? — 5x expansion, self-nom — Dan1980 (talk ♦ stalk) 21:40, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
High-quality nature of the expansion outweighs the fact that it's 4.98x, strictly speaking. Interesting hook, as well. Ref from book accepted in good faith (ISBN checked on Google Book search). Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 22:30, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that England's Tom Brittleton is the oldest footballer ever to play a competitive match for Sheffield Wednesday? – new article created by Stephen0183 (talk · contribs) and expanded by myself — Dan1980 (talk ♦ stalk) 21:48, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Length and article history verified. Same ref used as on the Neil Dewar hook above. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 22:30, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that not only did the village of Wattstown suffer two mining disasters at the same colliery, but both were explosions caused by the unauthorised use of blasting materials? self nom FruitMonkey (talk) 18:49, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Length and article history verified. As well as noting the offline sources supporting the hook, I was able to verify it (and the King's condolence message) using this source from a RCT council page. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 22:30, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Frank S. Farley, who served for 34 years in the New Jersey Legislature, was a key force behind the creation of the Garden State Parkway, derided by North Jersey legislators as "Farley's Folly"? new article by User:Ukes, nom by Alansohn (talk) 13:47, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that during the unusually long 15-day track of Tropical Storm Allison, the storm attained tropical or subtropical storm status on three separate occasions? –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 13:36, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that tax rates in Switzerland are set by voters through instruments of direct democracy? -- new article by Sandstein (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 05:43, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ALT: ...that in 2020, the legal authority of the Swiss Confederation to levy taxes on its citizens will expire, if it is not renewed by popular vote before that time? — Self-nom by Sandstein 14:01, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that newspaper writer Constance Drexel gained notoriety by falsely claiming that she was a member of Philadelphia's Drexel family? nominated by Royalbroil 02:36, 18 August 2008 (UTC) article by Wikijsmak (talk · contribs)
- ... that the rare fallopian tube cancer is more prevalent in carriers of the BRCA1 and 2 mutations? -selfnom Ekem (talk) 01:27, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Russian Tax Code was enacted 10 years ago in a last minute attempt to escape the imminent financial crisis of 1998? -- selfnom/expand NVO (talk) 20:50, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
100x100px|right|Garden house of the Bethmanns, purchased by Johann Philipp Bethmann in 1783
- ... that the Bethmann family is a German family of bankers whose name can be traced back to 1416? -- new article by Goodmorningworld; Nom by It Is Me Here (talk) 19:20, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- Can someone load that pic to Wkimedia Commons? --74.14.21.91 (talk) 02:09, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
... that sport in Hamburg includes about 60 teams in their proper German Bundesliga? -- new article self-nom by Sebastian scha. (talk) 09:02, 17 August 2008 (UTC)I'm still working and not satisfied now (some refs missing) Sebastian scha. (talk) 20:36, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that in the 30 Rock episode "Fireworks", series writers Kay Cannon and Dave Finkel appeared as a married couple in a "10-second internet sitcom" called Makin' It Happen? -- Jɑɱǐε Jcɑ 02:16, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that W. Otto Miessner founded the first public high school band in the United States in Connersville, Indiana? (self-nom) --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 01:30, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Phacelia sericea (pictured) is an uncommon, showy, perennial plant endemic to the mountains of western North America? -- new article self-nom by Walter Siegmund (talk) 23:34, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b2/Brotherhood_of_Man_1.jpg/100px-Brotherhood_of_Man_1.jpg)
- ... that Sandra Stevens and Nicky Stevens have been with the British pop group Brotherhood of Man since 1973? And despite their name, the singers are not related. -- new articles by Tuzapicabit (talk · contribs),self nom.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 23:26, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the map of the Battle of Waterloo prepared by Dutch cartographer Willem Benjamin Craan so impressed Alexander I of Russia that the Tsar awarded him a precious ring? -- new article by Ereunetes (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 23:19, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/Old_Tram_in_Oslo_TRS_050515_008.jpg/100px-Old_Tram_in_Oslo_TRS_050515_008.jpg)
- ... that Kristiania Sporveisselskab (pictured) established the first tramway in Oslo, Norway, in 1875? -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arsenikk (talk • contribs) 22:41, 2008 August 16 (UTC)
- ... that in the papal election, 1198 for the first time the new pope was elected per scrutinium? self-nom CarlosPn (talk) 00:03, 17 August 2008 (CET)
- ... that after New York Mets second baseman Kelvin Chapman made his Major League Baseball debut in 1979, he had to spend more than four years in the minor leagues before returning to the majors in 1984? -- new article self-nom by Rlendog (talk) 21:39, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
![Kasivisvesvara temple, Lakkundi](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Kasivisvesvara_temple_at_Lakkundi.jpg/100px-Kasivisvesvara_temple_at_Lakkundi.jpg)
- ... that the ornate 11th century Kasivisvesvara Temple (pictured) in Karnataka, India, is considered a high point in Western Chalukya architecture? (self nom) Dineshkannambadi (talk) 21:14, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that shrines dedicated to the Hindu sun god Surya usually face east, but the one at the Kasivisvesvara Temple (pictured) in Lakkundi, Karnataka faces west? -- new article by Dineshkannambadi (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 05:59, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Actually the first one of these is a self nomination. Let's credit PFHLai for an alternate hook maybe? (I've rearranged to bring these together and took the captioned version of the picture) -Epousesquecido (talk) 14:12, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that shrines dedicated to the Hindu sun god Surya usually face east, but the one at the Kasivisvesvara Temple (pictured) in Lakkundi, Karnataka faces west? -- new article by Dineshkannambadi (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 05:59, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Mastro_Titta.jpg/72px-Mastro_Titta.jpg)
- ... that Giovanni Battista Bugatti (pictured) executed 516 people between 1796 and 1856 on behalf of the Papal States? Savidan 20:57, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Clara_Fisher_Age_6.png/65px-Clara_Fisher_Age_6.png)
- ... that Clara Fisher (pictured) began her 72 year acting career at the age of six? - Article by User:Epousesquecido, nom by ++Lar: t/c 19:06, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- (alt)... that Clara Fisher (pictured at age six), Britain's most highly regarded child actor of the time, had a 72 year acting career? ++Lar: t/c 19:06, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that crime in Israel includes teenage violence in schools?
- or,
- ... that the criminal industry associated with motor vehicle theft in Israel primarily involves Palestinians along with Israeli Jews and Israeli Arabs? (article significantly expanded, self-nom) Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 13:49, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- or,
- ... that organized crime in Israel increased in the 1990s?
- or,
- ... that motor vehicle theft is a form of crime in Israel which primarily involves Palestinians along with Israeli Jews and Israeli Arabs? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 19:59, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- It seems like only the third suggestion is saying anything significant. Any country is going to have teenage violence, and "Palestinians along with Israeli Jews and Israeli Arabs" covers almost the whole population, right? How about:
- ... that the Israeli mafia have extended their activities to foreign countries like the United States, South Africa, and the Netherlands? Mycroft7 (talk) 21:21, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- I must admit that I'm not that fond of neither alternative, but if I was forced to chose I'd take the latter. Any signling out ethnic groups as criminals should best be avoided in DYK. --Soman (talk) 21:38, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- I like Mycroft7's suggestion, and the third hook is also good. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 07:13, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that "Jack-Tor", an episode of 30 Rock, was increased by 10 minutes as a sweeps and ratings stunt? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Corn.u.co.pia / Disc.us.sion 05:29, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- ALT ... that "Jack-Tor", an episode of 30 Rock, was the first episode of the series to air as part of NBC's "Comedy Night Done Right"? -- Jɑɱǐε Jcɑ 13:38, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/RaineyHouse.jpg/100px-RaineyHouse.jpg)
- ... that the Joseph H. Rainey House (pictured), was the Georgetown, South Carolina home of the first black United States Congressman, a former slave? (self-nom, originally created and 5X expanded) doncram (talk) 05:24, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Gertrude of Dagsburg, who was probably around twenty years old at her death, was married three times and probably composed Old French poetry? (self-nom) Srnec (talk) 05:03, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d5/Ppennsylvanicus.jpg/100px-Ppennsylvanicus.jpg)
- ... that Paterson's worms are a family of Turing machines inspired by the fossilized tracks of prehistoric worms? -- new article self-nom by Reyk YO! 02:47, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Lightning Bug (pictured) is Pennsylvania's state insect? - self nom by Boston (talk) 02:04, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- This is a specific species of lightning bug, but I'm wondering if Firefly should be mentioned here. dm (talk) 02:49, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that there are Dinosaur Footprints in the Connecticut River Valley? - self nom by Boston (talk) 02:35, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
![Lactarius piperatus](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Lactarius060.jpg/100px-Lactarius060.jpg)
- ... that, despite sometimes being described as poisonous, Lactarius piperatus (pictured) used to be eaten in Russia where it could be picked when other edible mushrooms were less available? - self nom, hook may need rewording/rechoosing. 17:56, 16 August 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by J Milburn (talk • contribs) 17:56, 2008 August 16
![Obelisk of Theodosius](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Hippodrome_Constantinople_2007_007.jpg/75px-Hippodrome_Constantinople_2007_007.jpg)
- ... that the Obelisk of Theodosius (pictured), installed in Istanbul since 390, was originally erected in Egypt to commemorate Pharaoh Tutmoses III's victory on the banks of the Euphrates in the 15th century BC? -- new article by Neddyseagoon (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 00:03, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Kentucky Senator Archibald Dixon was primarily responsible for the repeal of the slavery restrictions of the Missouri Compromise in Nebraska Territory and Kansas Territory? (Self-nom; five-fold expansion diff) Acdixon (talk • contribs • count) 13:09, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 15
- ...that Rebecca Adlington was the first British women for 48 years to win Olympic Gold for swimming? User:DavidCane (plus) testing nom Victuallers (talk) 14:01, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- .(alt double)..that Rebecca Adlington, British Olympic Gold swimmer went to The Brunts School? added another to make it less ITN. Victuallers (talk) 22:56, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/Dehio_212_Cluny.jpg/100px-Dehio_212_Cluny.jpg)
- ... that Guy de Bourgogne was violently disrobed by members of his militia upon his election as Pope Callixtus II by the papal election, 1119 in Cluny Abbey (pictured)?
- ... that the silver medal won at the 2008 Summer Olympics by the Singapore women's table tennis team, comprising Feng Tianwei, Li Jiawei and Wang Yuegu, is only the second Olympic medal in Singapore's history? — Cheers, JackLee –talk– 06:04, 18 August 2008 (UTC) (expanded the article and nominated it).
- ... that urban survival syndrome, used to justify the use of deadly force by black defendants, could also be used to stereotype them? (self nom) (expanded over fivefold since August 15) —Mattisse (Talk) 18:39, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- (alt hook) ... that urban survival syndrome can be seen as a version of the battered woman syndrome? —Mattisse (Talk) 18:39, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that in 1975 the first of the Greek junta trials which took place at Korydallos prison was described as "Greece's Nuremberg"? (created and self nom).
Please note: Article currently at AFD but it is expected to survive. Thanks. Dr.K. (talk) 00:16, 17 August 2008 (UTC)Please note: AFD withdrawn by nominator. Article ok now. No longer at AFD. Thanks to all. Dr.K. (talk) 08:04, 19 August 2008 (UTC)- Alternate1... that Stylianos Pattakos, a principal of the 21 April 1967 coup in Greece, after his conviction at the Greek junta trials, enjoyed amenities such as a pond with 21 goldfish while inside Korydallos? Dr.K. (talk) 13:41, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Alternate2... that Yannis Deyannis, the presiding judge in the first of the Greek junta trials in Greece in 1975, wrote a book about that trial in 1990? Dr.K. (talk) 17:57, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Alternate1... that Stylianos Pattakos, a principal of the 21 April 1967 coup in Greece, after his conviction at the Greek junta trials, enjoyed amenities such as a pond with 21 goldfish while inside Korydallos? Dr.K. (talk) 13:41, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Seiz Charterhouse in Slovenske Konjice is the oldest monastery in Slovenia? (inline citations pending) -- New article by Shabicht (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 23:42, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that co-creator of Casper the Friendly Ghost Seymour Reit's middle name, "Victory", was given to him as a result of his birth on Armistice Day? ~ Article by Father Goose; nominated by Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 16:53, 16 August 2008 (UTC).
- Thank you for nominating it; I've been meaning to do so myself, especially now that the article is complete. May I ask that this hook be used instead?:
- Thank you for nominating it; I've been meaning to do so myself, especially now that the article is complete. May I ask that this hook be used instead?:
- ... that Seymour Reit, co-creator of Casper the Friendly Ghost, claimed that Da Vinci had painted two Mona Lisas, one of which was in a bank vault in New Jersey? --Father Goose (talk) 09:33, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the US and Canadian ships escorting the British merchant ships of Convoy ON-67 in 1942 had one working radar between them, lacked sufficient binoculars and had never operated together before? ~ Article by Thewellman; nominated by Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 16:29, 16 August 2008 (UTC).
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Franklin-Benjamin-LOC.jpg/100px-Franklin-Benjamin-LOC.jpg)
- ... that, at 16 years old, Benjamin Franklin (pictured) created the persona of Silence Dogood, a middle-aged woman, to get his views published in his brother's newspaper? (Not counted characters; self nom)...... Dendodge .. TalkContribs 15:02, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Most of the article content is quotations, which are not counted as DYK characters. Thingg⊕⊗ 16:31, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that to combat illegal entry by foreign nationals, India and China are currently building security barriers at their borders with Bangladesh and North Korea respectively? ~ Article by Terjen; nominated by Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 13:41, 16 August 2008 (UTC). Am converting bare URLs to full refs at present.
- ... that a feather attributed to the ancestor of the Antillean Piculet has been found in 25 million year old amber? self nom on expansion, created by User:Polbot. Sabine's Sunbird talk 04:04, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the soundtracks to FlatOut and FlatOut: Ultimate Carnage include five songs by English rock music group No Connection? (125 characters; self-nom) –Black Falcon (Talk) 03:56, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- (alternate)... that "Ain't Foolin'" and "Love for Free", by English rock music group No Connection, reached #1 on MP3.com's Classic Rock chart? (130 characters; self-nom) –Black Falcon (Talk) 03:56, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- (alternate)... that the English rock music group No Connection performed at CBGB in 2002? (76 characters; self-nom) –Black Falcon (Talk) 03:56, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that circumstances of the death of Jerzy Sosnowski, a top Polish spy in Weimar Germany, are still unknown? self-nom by Tymek (talk) 03:28, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the sinking of the year-old American cargo ship SS Washingtonian with her $1,000,000 cargo of raw sugar in January 1915 contributed to a 9% rise in the price of sugar in the United States? -- new article by Bellhalla (talk) 23:37, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the New Voices Campaign of PICO National Network is attempting to repeat at the national level the success of its California Project in giving low-income communities influence on public policy? New article self-nom by Dwalls (talk) 23:05, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the collapse of the Gran Tavola, a papal depository bank, devastated the economy of Siena for decades? Savidan 22:37, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that a show horse belonging to Rielle Hunter was killed as part of an insurance fraud scheme, and that the event was adapted as part of the novel Story of My Life? (Article initially created by User:Smith Jones, but the vast majority of the work was done by
User:64.142.90.33User:Catherineyronwode.) Kelly hi! 21:54, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for noticing, Kelly. I have a series of 9 static IP addresses that begin with "64" -- but i am actually User:Catherineyronwode and for reason of being a "notable Wikipedian," i almost alway edit as my IP. cat yronwode a.k.a. "64" 64.142.90.33 (talk) 22:23, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
![Empègue - dated V L J 2000](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/2000_-_IMG_1667_b.jpg/100px-2000_-_IMG_1667_b.jpg)
- ... that the stencils known as Empègue (pictured) were placed by youths on houses in Beauvoisin, France in August 2000? self-nom (User:RuB fr and) Victuallers (talk) 13:48, 16 August 2008 (UTC)(Well I never knew they existed!)
- ... that Robert Park acted simultaneously as a professor, a college football coach, and a minister? -- Article created as a stub by User:Paulmcdonald; expanded sixfold and self-nom by Nyttend (talk) 20:51, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- See here for the article minus templates, references, and ELs (and minus a slight expansion): it's 2,691 characters, as opposed to the article here before I began working on it: 429 characters. An image is available, but I'm waiting on the MCQ desk to see if it's public domain or if I must upload it under fair use. Nyttend (talk) 20:51, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Emperor Joseph II Habsburg was allowed to enter the papal conclave, 1769? self-nom CarlosPn (talk) 22:10, 15 August 2008 (CET)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/20/Corningware_%28flower-print_casserole_dishes%29.jpg/100px-Corningware_%28flower-print_casserole_dishes%29.jpg)
- ... that CorningWare (pictured) was invented accidentally by S. Donald Stookey when he overheated a piece of glass? expanded article five fold by --Doug Coldwell talk 12:46, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- Nice article but hook is slightly misleading. Suggest "... that a laboratory accident by S. Donald Stookey led to the invention of CorningWare (pictured)?" - Boston (talk) 17:43, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the much better hook. Yours would be the better hook to use, I agree. --Doug Coldwell talk 17:53, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Dave and Kevin Huntley are the only father–son duo to win two NCAA Men's Lacrosse Championships in their respective Division I Lacrosse careers?
- ... (alt) that Dave and Kevin Huntley are only the second father–son duo to score 100 goals in their respective NCAA Division I Lacrosse careers?-- 2 new article self-nom by Mitico (talk) 12:13, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that E.E. Cummings was inspired to write Santa Claus: A Morality after reuniting with his daughter, Nancy? - created today and self nominated Evaunit♥666♥ 04:39, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Length, date and hook verified. Nice work! :) -- RyRy (talk) 05:02, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Great_schism_1378_1417-C2.jpg/100px-Great_schism_1378_1417-C2.jpg)
- ... that the election of Pope Urban VI—the last non-cardinal to become pope—by the papal conclave, 1378 precipitated the Western Schism (pictured)? Savidan 03:23, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Length & reference verified. Mitico (talk) 14:18, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the 6th century Mahakuta group of temples in Karnataka state, India, exhibit pan-Indian art forms? (self nom) Dineshkannambadi (talk) 01:46, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Travel + Leisure named Wasque ("way-squee") on Chappaquiddick the number one beach in New England? - created August 12 and expanded today by Boston (talk) 00:40, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- ALT... that "Chappaquiddick-by-the-Sea" was a 19th century development plan for Wasque Beach? - Boston (talk) 15:38, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if this qualifies but the heading says "created/expanded" (which I did) and it's quite an interesting fact even if it's not accepted.
- ... that golfer Des Smyth's son discovered he had won the National Lottery as he was eating breakfast? Self-nom, --Candlewicke (Talk) 23:57, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
DYK rules call for a fivefold expansion of readable text for preexisting articles to qualify. User:Dr pda/prosesize.js shows the article was expanded from 1130 bytes of readable text to 1508 bytes, an expansion of only 33%. --Allen3 talk 00:08, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- Seems sort of tangential as well. bibliomaniac15 00:09, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- "Sort of tangential"? How so? Ah well. I left one at the bottom of the 14th too which seems to have gone unnoticed. Was wondering how close the article itself would be to gaining Good Article status as well. But just thought it had an interesting fact... :) --Candlewicke (Talk) 00:18, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that golfer Des Smyth's son discovered he had won the National Lottery as he was eating breakfast? Self-nom, --Candlewicke (Talk) 23:57, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the mid-Cambrian animal Odontogriphus was only known from one specimen until recently. Then an analysis in 2006 of 189 newly-discovered fossil specimens thrust it into the center of a heated debate about the evolution of molluscs, annelid worms and brachiopods. (Self-nom; expanded almost 4x in last 2 days) -- Philcha (talk) 11:58, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Hook is too long. I counted 266 characters, should be 200 or less. Article length was 2,696 characters, which by my count you now have 13,610 so you meet the x5 requirement (2,696x5=13,480). Mitico (talk) 16:49, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- Alternative hook: ... that the discovery of 189 fossils of the mid Cambrian animal Odontogriphus thrust it into the centre of a heated debate about the evolution of molluscs, annelid worms and brachiopods? (183 chars) Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 20:46, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the 1964 film Man in the 5th Dimension was shown in the 70mm Todd-AO widescreen process exclusively at the Billy Graham Pavilion during the 1964 New York World's Fair? (self-nom) Ecoleetage (talk) 19:32, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that in 1965 Rankin M. Smith, Sr. paid a then unprecedented 8.5 million dollars for the ownership of the Atlanta Falcons, a team in the NFL? (self-nom, expanded by me) Livitup (talk) 19:46, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that an HM V-type tram on the Helsinki tram network was converted into a pub, renumbered to 175 and renamed Spårakoff (pictured) in honour of the 175th anniversary of the Finnish brewery Sinebrychoff? -- new article by Kjet (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 23:53, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Venetian Theatre in Hillsboro, Oregon, was renamed as the Town Theater in 1956 only to be renamed again as the Venetian in 2008? (self) Aboutmovies (talk) 09:59, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ...that Pseudodementia is a condition in older people where a treatable psychiatric illness such as depression may mimic dementia? Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:06, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 14
- ... that artist Harriet Burns was the first woman to work within the Walt Disney Imagineering department?
- or ... that Harriet Burns designed the original prototype models of Disneyland's Sleeping Beauty Castle (pictured), Pirates of the Caribbean and New Orleans Square? -- self nom Scanlan (talk) 17:29, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that photorejuvenation has been successfully used to improve the appearance of rosacea and reduce the redness associated with it? (self nom. Curiously, it is both a new article and a 5-fold expansion at the same time) Λuα (Operibus anteire) 16:01, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the winners of Oxford's Gaisford Prize for Greek Verse include the fictional Duke of Dorset in Max Beerbohm's 1911 novel Zuleika Dobson? - self-nom by Xn4 (talk) 05:06, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Operation Strikeback had the first use of single sideband (SSB) voice communications for tactical operations by the United States Navy? (created by Marcd30319 (talk · contribs), nom by --King Bedford I Seek his grace 00:50, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that in 1937, Oscar Garcia Rivera, Sr. became the first Puerto Rican to hold public office in the United States? Tony the Marine (talk) 17:59, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Hook is not cited. Thingg⊕⊗ 15:48, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- Šalata (self-nom, 5x through 5d, expanding started on August 11, for the hooks and discussion click here) Admiral Norton (talk) 23:29, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- Where's the hook? All moved to the August 11 section. --74.14.21.91 (talk) 17:46, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Cayamant, Quebec, used to be named Dorion but was renamed in 1988 to avoid problems created by having the same name as the city of Dorion? -- P199 (talk) 22:31, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Article is 1223 characters. Thingg⊕⊗ 16:29, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- The demographics section is integral to a community's profile and therefore part of the main text body and should be counted. -- P199 (talk) 22:21, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that fashion designer Tory Burch (pictured), who has dated numerous celebrities and socialites, has a mother who dated Steve McQueen and a father who dated Grace Kelly?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 07:31, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Ratsimilaho established the Betsimisaraka who make up 15% of Madagascar's population? self nom Victuallers (talk) 20:21, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Pierre Trudeau was known to paddle the Kazabazua River in Quebec? - using some material from User:P199 (please co-credit) was created by - Boston (talk) 17:43, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Tiptree Windmill (pictured) isn't in Tiptree? New article created and self-nom by Mjroots (talk) 11:54, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- I applaud brevity of this hook! Can you cite the statement "The mill is commonly said to be in Tiptree" appearing in the intro? - Boston (talk) 20:24, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- A bit difficult that, if you look on the map it is in Tiptree. The mill is commonly known as Tiptree Windmill and no doubt if you ask the residents of Tiptree they will say it is "their" mill. It actually stands in the parish of Tolleshunt Knights, hence the title of the article. Mjroots (talk) 07:52, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- I do believe you but this sounds like original research and a hook that can't be cited in a very concrete way can't go to the main page. Try to suggest another. - Boston (talk) 17:39, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- Link added to my reply showing that mill is commonly known as Tiptree windmill. Mjroots (talk) 20:03, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- Alt hook ... that Tiptree Windmill (pictured) has walls that are 4 feet (1.22 m) thick? Mjroots (talk) 19:57, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that screenwriter Jimmy Jack once left Sydney, New South Wales and returned to his hometown of Perth, Western Australia after an argument with The Black Balloon co-writer Elissa Down? (self-nom) —97198 talk 10:28, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- ALT: ... that Australian screenwriter Jimmy Jack is also known as "Jimmy the Exploder"? I prefer the first, but here's another. —97198 talk 10:28, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- ALT2: *... that Jimmy Jack returned to his hometown of Perth after an argument with his The Black Balloon co-writer? less words?? Victuallers (talk) 20:43, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the book Passionate Minds by author David Bodanis deals with the life of acclaimed philosopher and writer Voltaire and his mistress Émilie du Châtelet?
New article by User:Jordan Timothy James Busson; Nom by J.T Pearson (talk) 07:44, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that when classical scholar Spencer Barrett's tax return was challenged, he showed that to understand a text of Pindar he had to know how Mount Etna (pictured) had appeared to a passing sailor? Xn4 (talk) 07:03, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
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- ... that the smallest natural area in Pennsylvania protects a stand of box huckleberry (pictured), but another stand nearby is the oldest plant in the United States? (self-nom) Choess (talk) 03:41, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- I added "stand" after "another", because I wondered how another natural area or another huckleberry (which I falsely associated with our local red huckleberries) could be the oldest plant. Art LaPella (talk) 03:57, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- A bureaucratic pseudofact like smallest natural area in Pennsylvania seems easily avoidable.--Wetman (talk) 14:21, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- ALT:"... Hoverter and Sholl Box Huckleberry Natural Area protects a specimen of box huckleberry over 1,000 years old?" - Boston (talk) 17:45, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- It is a double DYK, both the Natural Area and the Box Huckleberry articles are new. I prefer the original hook. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 19:23, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- How about ... that the smallest Natural Area in Pennsylvania protects a stand of box huckleberry (pictured), but another stand nearby is the oldest plant in the United States? I've just made the corresponding change to the article, to reflect what I understand to be the crux of Wetman's objection. (That is, the distinction between "natural areas" in general, and tracts of land designated as "Natural Areas" and protected by the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.) Choess (talk) 19:54, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- It is a double DYK, both the Natural Area and the Box Huckleberry articles are new. I prefer the original hook. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 19:23, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- ALT:"... Hoverter and Sholl Box Huckleberry Natural Area protects a specimen of box huckleberry over 1,000 years old?" - Boston (talk) 17:45, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that St James's University Hospital, Leeds, popularly known as Jimmy's is actually named after two people named James, and not the Saint. (self nom but very hard fact to find, added 14 Aug) Chemical Engineer (talk) 21:23, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Not a new article, nor has it been expanded beyond the addition of the fact. DYK rules call for a fivefold expansion of readable text for preexisting articles to qualify. Benea (talk) 22:55, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Expiring noms
Articles created/expanded on August 13
- ...that Queen Victoria had the ancient Stewart Sapphire set into the Imperial State Crown in 1838? --self nom --Cameron* 17:49, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Sherman Maxwell, who is believed to be the first African American sportscaster, was rarely paid for his radio broadcasts? -- self nom Scanlan (talk) 17:15, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Sultan Mohammed IV drowned in the Agdal Gardens near Marrakesh in 1873 when his steam launch capsized in the Sahraj el-Hana (Tank of Health)? (Hope I have done this right.) -- Ferocious angel (talk) 22:47, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that a flower robot mimics the appearance of a common flower and contains simple sensing and home appliance functionalities, thus making it a service robot? --self-nom, --Jiuguang (talk) 16:58, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that SS Dakotan, a 1910 American cargo ship, was transferred to the Soviet Union under Lend-Lease during World War II and continued sailing into the 1960s? -- Article expanded fivefold by User; Nom by Bellhalla (talk) 05:37, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
--Captain-tucker (talk) 11:09, 15 August 2008 (UTC)You need a citation immediately after the hook sentence, so if either move or add reference 39 to the end of In December 1942, Dakotan was transferred to the Soviet Union under Lend-Lease, and renamed Zyrianin ( or Зырианин). you should be all set. Size and date OK
- Added. Just out of curiosity (since it shouldn't affect eligibility, etc.), why was this moved under 15 August? — Bellhalla (talk) 11:18, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- You are correct, I moved this to August 13. --Captain-tucker (talk) 11:35, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Length, date OK, and citation corrected.--Captain-tucker (talk) 20:36, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- (ALT)... that the life of the quartermaster of cargo ship SS Dakotan was saved by a U.S. Navy doctor who boarded the ship and performed an emergency appendectomy? -- Article expanded fivefold by User; Nom by Bellhalla (talk) 05:37, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Elizabeth Howe was one of nineteen people found guilty of practicing witchcraft and executed in the Salem witch trials? -- new article by Aw497 (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 03:18, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Thaxtead_windmill.jpg/72px-Thaxtead_windmill.jpg)
- ... that John Webb's Mill, Thaxted (pictured) has walls 4 feet (1.22 m) thick at the base, and that it was used for a time as a Scout hut? Article expanded on August 13 and self-nom by Mjroots (talk) 11:47, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- Note, not quite a 5x expansion, but was an unnoticed copyvio. See Art LaPella's talk page.
- ... that American physician John Ziegler discovered anabolic steroids and pioneered their use with U.S. weightlifting champion Bill March of the York Barbell club in 1959. Autodidactyl (talk) 09:15, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- or ... that American physician John Ziegler pioneered anabolic steroids but later said "... healthy athletes are putting themselves in the same category as drug addicts. It's a disgrace. Who plays sports for fun anymore?" Autodidactyl (talk) 12:26, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
The portion of the first hook that says "pioneered their use with U.S. weightlifting champion Bill March of the York Barbell club in 1959" is cited to a geocities website, which is not a reliable source. Thingg⊕⊗ 15:21, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- OK. Added 2 more reputable but less succinct sources. (NIDA Research Monograph 1990, Number 102 - PDF) and (Journal of Sport History, 1993, Vol.20 - PDF) Autodidactyl (talk) 07:20, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- or ... that American physician John Ziegler pioneered anabolic steroids but later said "... healthy athletes are putting themselves in the same category as drug addicts. It's a disgrace. Who plays sports for fun anymore?" Autodidactyl (talk) 12:26, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that James Russell Lowell's satirical poem A Fable for Critics (1848) made fun of many poets of the day, including himself? (Self-nom) --Midnightdreary (talk) 22:47, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Dengeki Gakuen RPG: Cross of Venus is being released for the 15th anniversary of the original manga, Dengeki Bunko? (created by Juhachi (talk · contribs), nom by --King Bedford I Seek his grace 22:20, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
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- ... that seal is the most important part of the Inuit diet? (pictured) (created by Emptyenvelope (talk · contribs), nom by --King Bedford I Seek his grace 22:14, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that one member of the Dughlats, Mirza Abu Bakr Dughlat, conquered lands belonging to other members of the Dughlat clan? (created by Ro4444 (talk · contribs), nom by --King Bedford I Seek his grace 22:09, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that with the Biblical archaeology school, a consensus was formed that biblical archaeology had provided physical evidence for the originating historical events behind the Old Testament narratives? (created by PiCo (talk · contribs), nom by --King Bedford I Seek his grace 22:00, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that pomologist Ulysses Prentiss Hedrick devoted separate monographs to cherries, grapes, peaches, pears, and plums? - expanded to DYK length by Black Falcon, created and nominated by Boston (talk) 20:51, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that China at the 1952 Summer Olympics represented the Olympic Games debut of the People's Republic of China, but the team arrived too late to compete except for one race by a single swimmer? -- New article by User:Galaxyharrylion; Expanded and nominated by — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 20:13, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Length & reference verified. Mitico (talk) 13:11, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- I see that this is about to expire, but since it is related to the current Olympic Games in China, I think it would be a very timely DYK. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 22:49, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the sawmill in Aumond, Quebec, built in 1862, also provided electricity to the village and remained in operation until 1989? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by P199 (talk) 15:11, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Article is just too short at 1476 characters of prose. Thingg⊕⊗ 14:56, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- Prose is about 1525 by my count, but moreover, the demographics section should be included in the count, making the article just below 2000 characters. -- P199 (talk) 22:17, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Irish television celebrity Bazil Ashmawy was born in Libya and is half Egyptian? - self nom by Boston (talk) 14:32, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Sir William Gregory was appointed Speaker of the House of Commons in 1679 despite having only been a Member of Parliament for a year? New article, 1700-odd characters minus the quote, self-nom. Ironholds 13:58, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Amherst College president Arthur Stanley Pease was an "indefatigable pedestrian" and mountaineer who studied plants in the White Mountains of New Hampshire? - self nom by Boston (talk) 09:20, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- I made it [[wikt:indefatigable|indefatigable]], assuming the purpose of linking the word is for people who don't know what it means at all. If you would rather link to fatigue that's a disambiguation, so make it fatigue (medical). Art LaPella (talk) 02:44, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- I thought that word made a quirky addition to the hook and where you linked it is probably best. Thanks. Boston (talk) 12:11, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Length and date verified. Hook is properly cited to a subscription website. Thingg⊕⊗ 14:48, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that ethnic Dayaks in Borneo resorted to the ancient practice of headhunting to chase away migrant Madurese during the Sampit conflict in 2001? -- new article self-nom by ќמшמφטтгמtorque 07:36, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Length, reference and history verified. Daniel Case (talk) 02:36, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that during the 30 Rock episode "Cleveland", scenes set in Cleveland, Ohio were actually filmed in Battery Park City, Manhattan? -- Jɑɱǐε Jcɑ 01:59, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Length, reference and history verified. Daniel Case (talk) 02:33, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Oyem, Gabon, was besieged by rabid dogs in March 2004, who killed three of five residents infected? Expansion by --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 01:54, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
The intro states "Proposed articles should not be marked as stubs", and Oyem's talk page states that it is a stub. Is it an outdated grade? If it can be upgraded or edited to do such, it would be ideal. Hurricane Angel Saki (talk) 03:23, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, sometimes people forget to remove the {{stub}} tag when nominating articles for DYK. In any case, this article is a little too short at 1299 characters of prose. Thingg⊕⊗ 04:13, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that despite gale warnings being issued for 1986's Tropical Storm Andrew along the East Coast, no gale force winds were ever felt on land? Self-nom. Hurricane Angel Saki (talk) 01:24, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- ALT:... that with
over50 deaths attributed to the storm Tropical Storm Andrew was the deadliest storm of the 1986 Atlantic hurricane season? –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 01:54, 13 August 2008 (UTC)- "over" struck as the article mentions exactly 50 deaths (49 in Jamaica and the swimmer in the Carolinas) as attributed to the storm. Thingg⊕⊗ 04:03, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- ALT:... that with
The first hook checks out but I like the second hook more and I'd like to see it cited where it's first stated in the intro, because it's not repeated later in the article. Daniel Case (talk) 02:26, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- Since we don't usually do sources in the intro, given its just a concise summary of the article, I added a notice in the Impact section with two sources (one for the swimmer, and another for the 49 Jamaican deaths). Is that good? Hurricane Angel Saki (talk) 02:47, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Francis Coleman worked as a conductor, magazine editor and musical director of the Royal Winnipeg Ballet before, at the age of 29, producing CBC's coverage of Elizabeth II's coronation? (self-nom) Warofdreams talk 15:09, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Length, history and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 02:14, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
![Map of the Bulgarian communities in Romania](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a8/Map_of_Bulgarians_in_Romania_English.png/100px-Map_of_Bulgarians_in_Romania_English.png)
- ... that Bulgarian settlers in what is today Romania contributed to the construction of the Black Church in Braşov, Transylvania in the 14th century and founded the Şcheii Braşovului neighbourhood of the city? (self-nom), Todor→Bozhinov 14:32, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
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- Sigh... bureaucracy :) New hook to remove those 5 characters if that's the real issue. 189 chars now. Todor→Bozhinov 11:43, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- (alternative hook) ... that Bulgarian settlers in what is today Romania contributed to the construction of the Black Church in Braşov, Transylvania and founded the Şcheii Braşovului neighbourhood of the city? Todor→Bozhinov 11:43, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- Sigh... bureaucracy :) New hook to remove those 5 characters if that's the real issue. 189 chars now. Todor→Bozhinov 11:43, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
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- ... that Charles Sawyer Russell commanded the 28th Regiment United States Colored Troops in the American Civil War, including at the Battle of the Crater, in which the regiment suffered casualties of nearly fifty percent? --Coemgenus 17:27, 14 August 2008 (UTC) (self nom)
Looks good.--King Bedford I Seek his grace 20:24, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... (alt hook) that Charles Sawyer Russell commanded the 28th Regiment United States Colored Troops in the American Civil War, which suffered nearly fifty percent casualties at the Battle of the Crater?--King Bedford I Seek his grace 02:38, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 12
- ... that Eastbourne Borough is the fifth football club for which Jean-Michel Sigere and Simon Wormull have played together? Double self-nom, both articles expanded many-fold from short stubs, Simon Wormull on 12th August, Jean-Michel Sigere on 15th. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:04, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Hook is not cited in the article. Thingg⊕⊗ 14:38, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- All five clubs properly cited in both articles now, sorry bout that... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 18:16, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
verified. Thingg⊕⊗ 15:39, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- Two possibilities:
- ... that when Singaporean poet Edwin Thumboo was a university freshman he was charged with sedition but acquitted?
- ... that Edwin Thumboo's 1979 poem Ulysses by the Merlion has influenced so many other Singaporean poets, it is joked that a true Singapore poet has to have written a "Merlion poem"?
- — Cheers, JackLee –talk– 15:01, 14 August 2008 (UTC) (expanded article and nominated it).
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- ... that adventurer Martin Johnson died when a Western Air Express Boeing crashed into Pinetos Peak, but his wife Osa continued their lecture tour in a wheelchair despite neck and back injuries? Autodidactyl (talk) 09:48, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Willie Mitchell won a Michigan High School Athletic Association basketball championship in 1992 & 1993, but lost to future Michigan Wolverines men's basketball teammate Robert Traylor in 1994?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 17:39, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
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*... that Will Dockery built Dockery Plantation (pictured) (home of such legendary bluesmen as Charlie Patton, Tommy Johnson, and Robert Johnson), thus being fundamental in the development of the Mississippi blues? (self nom) —Mattisse (Talk) 16:24, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
213 character hook. Thingg⊕⊗ 17:57, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- Alt hook (SHORTENED) ... that Will Dockery, by building Dockery Plantation (pictured), home of legendary bluesman Robert Johnson, was fundamental to the development of the blues? (self nom) —Mattisse (Talk) 18:27, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Length, date, and ref verified. Thingg⊕⊗ 14:39, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the cape of Inamuragasaki was so named for its similarity in shape to a stack of rice at harvest time? (created by Urashimataro (talk · contribs), nom by --King Bedford I Seek his grace 06:50, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Charles T. Barney, president of the Knickerbocker Trust Company, committed suicide after the collapse of his company sparked the Panic of 1907? (self-nom --JayHenry (talk) 04:48, 13 August 2008 (UTC) )
- ... that SS Pennsylvanian, an American cargo ship, was one of the first two steamships to travel eastbound through the Panama Canal after it opened in August 1914? -- new article self-nom by Bellhalla (talk) 23:44, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that in 1895, the North Star Mine Powerhouse's Pelton wheel was the largest in the world? (new; self nom) --Rosiestep (talk) 22:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- (alt1) ... that in 1895, the North Star Mine Powerhouse's 30 feet (9.1 m) Pelton wheel was the largest in the world? --Rosiestep (talk) 17:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- (alt2) ... that in 1895, the largest Pelton wheel in the world was running northern California's North Star Mine Powerhouse? --Rosiestep (talk) 17:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 20:01, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Quedlinburg medieval art was stolen due to a soldier who had taken art appreciation classes accidentally discovered them in a mineshaft? (created by Clarityfiend (talk · contribs), nom by --King Bedford I Seek his grace 20:54, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- (Alt)... that the Quedlinburg medieval art was stolen by a soldier who had taken art appreciation classes, and had accidentally discovered the art in a mineshaft? Art LaPella (talk) 22:32, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- either way it should be "... that medieval art from Quedlinburg was stolen..." Johnbod (talk) 22:41, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Length, reference and history verified. Daniel Case (talk) 19:56, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the population of Conquista, Minas Gerais decreased due to decreasing demand of coffee in the world, and the need for workers to create Brasilia? (created by Vogensen (talk · contribs), nom by --King Bedford I Seek his grace 20:29, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Off-topic incivil discussion deleted
Length, date, and ref verified. See above nom for explanation as my method and reasoning are the same. Thingg⊕⊗ 18:23, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that, on opening night, audiences cried "Murder!" during the conclusion of Samuel Johnson's Irene after seeing the main character strangled on stage? new article, co-nom User:Lexo Ottava Rima (talk) 20:07, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- ...
that the accounts of Samuel Johnson's life, the Life of Samuel Johnson (1787) and the Thraliana, were written by those James Boswell, writer of Life of Samuel Johnson (1791), considered rivals? self-nom, quadruple nom, one five fold expansion, three new, has a new list that is unique to Wikipedia. Ottava Rima (talk) 18:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- How about "... that in addition to Boswell's famous Life of Samuel Johnson (1791), major accounts of Samuel Johnson's life include the rival Life of Samuel Johnson (1787) and the Thraliana?" I'm impressed you got four in! Shimgray | talk | 22:07, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- That would be an acceptable alt nom. I could have gone for five, or six, but there just isn't enough space for characters. :) Ottava Rima (talk) 01:05, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Lengths, dates, and hooks verified. (*off topic*) I have to admit I laughed when I saw this edit summary to an addition of ~12000 bytes.... Thingg⊕⊗ 03:43, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Alt nom - ... that in addition to Boswell's famous Life (1791), major accounts of Samuel Johnson's life include the Anecdotes (1786), the rival Life (1787), An Essay (1792), and the Thraliana?self-nom, six part nom Ottava Rima (talk) 19:28, 13 August 2008 (UTC)additional articles verified. Thingg⊕⊗ 17:18, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- Alt nom - ... that in addition to Boswell's famous Life (1791), major accounts of Samuel Johnson's life include Biographical Sketch (1784), Anecdotes (1786), the rival Life (1787), Essay (1792), and Thraliana? self nom, seven parts, I forgot the original postmortem work on Johnson, whcihw as too important to leave out. Ottava Rima (talk) 00:34, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that in 2008, the German Federation of Internal Medicine awarded former Nazi Hans Joachim Sewering the Gunther-Budelmann medal, its highest honor? I would love to say he killed 900 children, but that would go against BLP. --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 17:45, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
I could be wrong, but I think this article is somewhat non-neutral. All the requirements check out though. Thingg⊕⊗ 03:35, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- How so? The assumptuion that he killed a lot of people is a very important partof his life. We don't mention that in the hook, of course. --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 12:01, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Second look. It's fine. Thingg⊕⊗ 15:29, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- How so? The assumptuion that he killed a lot of people is a very important partof his life. We don't mention that in the hook, of course. --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 12:01, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Kevin Smith, an outspoken fan of the Degrassi franchise was supposed to guest star in "Mother and Child Reunion", the first episode of Degrassi: The Next Generation but didn't due to scheduling conflicts? He later starred in three episodes of season 4 and two episodes of season 5. -- Self nom (created by User:JoFerg, expanded by me, Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 11:57, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- May be a little long... I dunno. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 11:58, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Yes, 286 characters is a little long. Art LaPella (talk) 22:32, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- SHORTENED: ... that Kevin Smith, an outspoken fan of the Degrassi franchise, was set to appear in the pilot of Degrassi: The Next Generation, "Mother and Child Reunion"? He didn’t, due to scheduling conflicts. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 23:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this is a five-fold expansion or not. I think the version prior to expansion has 7311 characters, but I'm not sure if the "Plot Synopsis" section in that version counts as prose or not. If it doesn't, the current 19000+ character article passes easily. Thingg⊕⊗ 02:39, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah. Personally I think the Plot was listy, as was the cast section, but I'll leave that to you guys to decide! This is only my second DYK nomination. The article did fail WP:MOSTV, WP:PLOT, WP:NN, and WP:TRIV before I worked on it. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 04:50, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- SHORTENED: ... that Kevin Smith, an outspoken fan of the Degrassi franchise, was set to appear in the pilot of Degrassi: The Next Generation, "Mother and Child Reunion"? He didn’t, due to scheduling conflicts. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 23:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- May be a little long... I dunno. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 11:58, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Rufous Songlark (pictured) is an Australian songbird that sometimes ends up as roadkill? - created by Polbot expanded by Boston (talk) 03:59, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- good article but banal hook. Surely the heroic solo nest-building and rearing behaviour of the female is more interesting? Autodidactyl (talk) 17:33, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- ALT:... the female Rufous Songlark builds a nest and rears her chicks alone? - Boston (talk) 03:58, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
The cited sources only back this article up so far as the female incubating the eggs alone. Daniel Case (talk) 19:51, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- Please recheck [3]. Thanks! - Boston (talk) 22:08, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ALT:... the female Rufous Songlark builds a nest and rears her chicks alone? - Boston (talk) 03:58, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- good article but banal hook. Surely the heroic solo nest-building and rearing behaviour of the female is more interesting? Autodidactyl (talk) 17:33, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that current Detroit Tigers relief pitcher Gary Glover was once threatened with a shotgun while pitching in the Venezuelan Winter Leagues? -- tenfold expansion (at least) [4] -- self nom, Mackensen (talk) 02:15, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- ALT ... that while playing in the Venezuelan Professional Baseball League, relief pitcher Gary Glover was robbed by a man with a shotgun? (not sure if the offline ref supports this, but Venezuelan Winter League redirects to Venezuelan Professional Baseball League) Thingg⊕⊗ 02:28, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, it does. Mackensen (talk) 02:36, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Length and history verified; offline ref accepted on AGF grounds. Can we find a way to word this so it doesn't sound like this happened during a game? Daniel Case (talk) 19:43, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ALT...that while in Venezuela for the Winter Leagues current Detroit Tigers relief pitcher Gary Glover was robbed at gunpoint? -- Mackensen (talk) 22:10, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that New Zealand politician John Key once promised Grey Power he would resign if he ever lowered the superannuation? -- Expand and self-nom by ~ AmeIiorate U T C @ 00:56, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- Just a note, the stub contained 138 characters of prose but a list that accounted for 848 characters. I have based the 5x expansion on real prose, not the list. I hope my interpretation of the rules about this were correct. ~ AmeIiorate U T C @ 00:56, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- Yes. #Instructions says " ... articles whose main body text has been expanded fivefold ... " (emphasis added) Art LaPella (talk) 01:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Length and reference verified. Reworded hook; it seems the country isn't used in the organization's name. Daniel Case (talk) 19:40, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- Superwhat??? (Linked to Pension) - 22:05, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- Yes. #Instructions says " ... articles whose main body text has been expanded fivefold ... " (emphasis added) Art LaPella (talk) 01:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- Just a note, the stub contained 138 characters of prose but a list that accounted for 848 characters. I have based the 5x expansion on real prose, not the list. I hope my interpretation of the rules about this were correct. ~ AmeIiorate U T C @ 00:56, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the disappearance of Ann Gotlib in broad daylight in 1983 helped spur the creation of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children? selfnom --Rividian (talk) 00:49, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- Since the reference article is pay/subscription only, here is the quote: "Meanwhile, child-welfare advocates say Ann's case has helped increase national awareness of missing and abducted children and has revolutionized how missing-child cases are handled across the country. The Gotlib case was "part of the reason that Congress realized that Americans needed help with missing children," said Charles Pickett, a senior case manager at the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children." --Rividian (talk) 00:49, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Length and history verified; accepting above on good faith. Rewrote to tighten up and make wording less awkward. Daniel Case (talk) 19:37, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that WWE wrestler Ryan Kelley was trained at School of Hard Knocks, Rusty Brooks's wrestling school? - (creator 72.74.205.103 and Wilhelmina Will), Mailer Diablo 05:55, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
The source only says that Brooks trained him and doesn't mention the school. Daniel Case (talk) 02:01, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 11
- ... that Alberto Bimboni and Charles Sanford Skilton received the Bispham Memorial Medal Award for American opera for their operas on American Indian subjects? (double self-nom) --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 20:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
The first article is fine (as<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Lupin/navpop.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css&dontcountme=s">suming good faith for the offline ref), but the ref for the statement in the second article mentions him receiving the David Bishop Medal of the American Opera Association of Chicago for his play, not the Bispham Memorial Medal Award. Thingg⊕⊗ 02:00, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- "Bishop Medal" appears to be a typo, from all I can figure - the David Bispham Medal is the one the Association awarded. "David Bishop" "American Opera Association" turns up two sources - this one, and the Dutch Wikipedia entry, which appears to be a direct translation of this one. Consequently, I split the difference; I figured it was a safe assumption to make. --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 04:30, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- I thought that may have been the case when I first saw it. Since I found no record of anyone named David Bishop who lived within 100 years prior the time the award was established (let alone someone who founded an opera award) after nearly 25 minutes of searching on three search engines and four reference websites, I think it's safe to assume that it was a typo.
Articles verified. Thingg⊕⊗ 05:09, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- I thought that may have been the case when I first saw it. Since I found no record of anyone named David Bishop who lived within 100 years prior the time the award was established (let alone someone who founded an opera award) after nearly 25 minutes of searching on three search engines and four reference websites, I think it's safe to assume that it was a typo.
- "Bishop Medal" appears to be a typo, from all I can figure - the David Bispham Medal is the one the Association awarded. "David Bishop" "American Opera Association" turns up two sources - this one, and the Dutch Wikipedia entry, which appears to be a direct translation of this one. Consequently, I split the difference; I figured it was a safe assumption to make. --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 04:30, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- All of the composer articles were written in userspace, and went live yesterday. I have a couple more I might try to shoehorn in on that first one, if they're long enough and I get to them in enough time. --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 20:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- ... that German biologist Hubert Markl, who received the Bundesverdienstkreuz in 1992, was President of the Max Planck Society from 1996 to 2002? (self-nom) Masterpiece2000 (talk) 03:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
--Captain-tucker (talk) 00:35, 13 August 2008 (UTC)there is no citation for the Bundesverdienstkreuz and I could not locate it in either of the two references in the article.
- Actually, the award is referred to by it's official name, Verdienstorden der Bundesrepublik Deutschland, in English (The Grand Cross of the Order of Merit, Federal Republic of Germany) in the first ref.
Article verified. Thingg⊕⊗ 01:05, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, the award is referred to by it's official name, Verdienstorden der Bundesrepublik Deutschland, in English (The Grand Cross of the Order of Merit, Federal Republic of Germany) in the first ref.
- ...
that Kris Kelderman played for the US team at the 1985 FIFA U-16 World Championship while still <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Lupin/navpop.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css&dontcountme=s">in high school?(created by Mohrflies (talk · contribs), nom by --King Bedford I Seek his grace 21:10, 11 August 2008 (UTC)No problems. --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 22:11, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
- Wouldn't this hook be true of nearly every player on the team (exceptions to high school drop-outs, which I am betting is more unusual)? Mitico (talk) 22:29, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
- Oops, being an American over the age of 12, I didn't catch that U-16 meant under-16 soccer players. We'll go with the following
- ... (alt hook) that Kansas City Wizards's assistant coach Kris Kelderman's high school soccer coach was none other than his father? (created by Mohrflies (talk · contribs), nom by --King Bedford I Seek his grace 22:38, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
- Again, sounds like a quite ordinary thing. We all learn something from parents :) NVO (talk) 01:19, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think it's too common for a soccer player's high-school coach to be his father, but I could be wrong. Either way, I don't really care, but I think the hook is fine. Thingg⊕⊗ 00:51, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not thrilled with this hook. At any rate, the phrase "none other" should not be included. - Boston (talk) 19:42, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think it's too common for a soccer player's high-school coach to be his father, but I could be wrong. Either way, I don't really care, but I think the hook is fine. Thingg⊕⊗ 00:51, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- Again, sounds like a quite ordinary thing. We all learn something from parents :) NVO (talk) 01:19, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Off-topic incivil discussion deleted.
- I am mystified as to how this article's citations are inadequate as the #Instructions don't set any strict requirements for citations other than stating that the article must have incline citations (as opposed to a simple "external links" section). Also, it clearly states that Articles with good references and citations are preferred (emphasis mine), not required. In addition, New York and Harlem Railroad, which is currently on the main page (ie. it was successfully approved) has far less "professional" (if I may use that term) citations than this article does. The only potential problem with this nom is whether the hook is interesting enough. There is no problem with the article itself. Thingg⊕⊗ 18:15, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Well then I guess you missed the poll on the discussions page, where a proposal to have properly formatted references was passed overwhelmingly. If the rules have not been updated to reflect the current state of play they may need to be rephrased, but Bedford knows about the vote and so I don't think he should be proposing articles for promotion which do not meet the new requirements unless he is prepared to correct the problem himself or else persuade the creator of the article to correct it. Gatoclass (talk) 12:50, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- I thought you said this was a gray area? In nother words, had anyone else nominated this, it would have been accepted, but since I did, it gets thrown away.--King Bedford I Seek his grace 12:57, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- Yes I did say it was a grey area. But then I reconsidered and decided it doesn't make much sense to have the ruling only cover self-noms and not noms on behalf of other people. Gatoclass (talk) 13:07, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- I am mystified as to how this article's citations are inadequate as the #Instructions don't set any strict requirements for citations other than stating that the article must have incline citations (as opposed to a simple "external links" section). Also, it clearly states that Articles with good references and citations are preferred (emphasis mine), not required. In addition, New York and Harlem Railroad, which is currently on the main page (ie. it was successfully approved) has far less "professional" (if I may use that term) citations than this article does. The only potential problem with this nom is whether the hook is interesting enough. There is no problem with the article itself. Thingg⊕⊗ 18:15, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
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