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A car bomb explosion outside a popular ice cream parlor in central Baghdad kills 13 people and injures 24. ISIL claims responsibility for the attack. (AP)
Business and economy
China Labor Watch says one of its team was arrested and two others are missing when they were investigating labor practices at Ganzhou Huajian International Shoe City Co., whose products include Ivanka Trump-branded shoes. (Time)
A formation of United StatesB-1B bombers from Guam flew over Korea, staging a nuclear bomb dropping drill. North Korea calls it a military provocation. (Yonhap)(Terra)
Article:Cyclone Mora (talk·history·tag) Blurb: At least 5 people have been killed and houses damaged after Cyclone Mora hit Bangladesh's southern east coast (Post) Credits:
Oppose for now – This is a run-of-the-mill storm for the region. Bangladesh/Myanmar regularly see very deadly storms (re: Cyclone Nargis in 2008 with >100,000 deaths) so less than 10 deaths falls far short of notability in the region. Additionally, the article quality is not up to par. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 14:18, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Cyclonebiskit. Also oppose merge for several reasons. One, the cyclone itself did not make landfall in Sri Lanka, but the progenitor system affected the island nation as the floods started on 24 May yet Mora developed 26 May. The developing cyclone would be difficult to distinguish from the monsoon itself, which frequently causes flash flooding. The Sri Lanka floods article contains one citation from BBC (which I cannot access, and unfortunately cannot assess) stating that the deadly floods were triggered by both the cyclone and the monsoon. Again, the definition of which is which becomes ambiguous. Two, the average reader could be confused about whether the cyclone proper made landfall in Bangladesh or Sri Lanka, since a combined blurb would indicate more deaths in Sri Lanka. I support in principle the Sri Lanka floods on its own (nominated below), but as of now both articles are in very poor shape, with insufficient referencing. 183.184.108.45 (talk) 16:36, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Eighteen people, including two opposition leaders, Henrique Capriles and Carlos Paparoni, are injured in Caracas as security forces stop protestors from reaching the government ombudsman's office. (Reuters)(AP)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: I've added a blurb, since this is quite a significant individual, but we could run with just the RD if folks prefer that. Vanamonde (talk) 10:59, 30 May 2017 (UTC) Count Iblis (talk) 05:17, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Significant cleanup needed Some sections entirely unsourced, and one orange tag on it, plus several CNs. --MASEM (t) 05:28, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I'm working on cleaning this up; given the significance, it would be a shame if we didn't post anything. I think a blurb may be justified in this case. Any help would be welcome. Vanamonde (talk) 07:15, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment For those like me who don't recognise the name, he was "military dictator of Panama from 1983 to 1989, when he was removed from power by the United States during the invasion of Panama.". Thryduulf (talk) 10:49, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I've worked on this a fair bit, and though it's not fantastic, citation issues have been addressed, and main aspects have been covered. @EternalNomad, Masem, and Thryduulf: since you folks have looked at this once already, thoughts? Vanamonde (talk) 10:56, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral. I haven't actually looked at the article in any more detail than to find out who he was. If I do so later I will likely have an opinion but I don't currently. Thryduulf (talk) 10:59, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - the sort of nomination where quality and depth of coverage on Wikipedia would have been a pre-requisite to seriously considering, though even then it would have faced an uphill battle. StillWaitingForConnection (talk) 15:18, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The Philippine military announces that it has discovered the bodies of 16 people, believed to have been killed by the ISIL affiliated Abu Sayyaf. Authorities say that the death toll after six days of fighting is 95, including 19 civilians. (The New York Times)
At least 126 people are dead, and 97 missing, after mudslides and floods caused by heavy rain in Sri Lanka. Over 100,000 people have been displaced. (AP)
Eight people, including a Lincoln County Sheriff's Department deputy, are fatally shot overnight at three locations in rural Mississippi. A suspect is in custody; he says he intended for it to be "suicide by cop." (NBC News and AP)
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Nominator's comments: John Noakes was the longest-serving presenter of British children's programme, Blue Peter, itself the longest-running children's programme in the world. Aiken D10:07, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Support but only highlight the Festival per ITNR. Neither the film nor director article are really long enough to be front page material and I don't think we want to start a trend. Linked is fine. --MASEM (t) 02:29, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose at the moment. Even the festival article has practically no prose in it at all. If we're going to reject sporting events for the same reason, we do need to be consistent. If we're going to post this, bold the film, because it's currently the better article of the two. Black Kite (talk)23:00, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
As I understand Cannes, that unlike a sporting event or something like the Oscars, there's not much of a single "ceremony" to this. The Festival occurs over several days, and then there's a final awards presentation, which is not broadcasted or the like, so that there is really nothing to recap. I would totally agree if there was a major ceremony to be seen by millions through television, then we'd absolutely need some type of prose, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. (I also spot checked a few previous years and none have any significant prose since there's less ceremony and more just documentation of events. --MASEM (t) 23:09, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support first blurb after reviewing festival article, I think it's of sufficient quality, and certainly at least as notable as 89th Academy Awards, which being American, got to the Main Page without question. Ribbet32 (talk) 16:22, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose unless there's an explanation of why this is significant. We posted that Chinese airliner, but that was because it was China's first large-size civilian aircraft to go into production; United Aircraft Corporation (who made this one) and its predecessors have been building civilian airliners for decades and there doesn't appear to be anything ground-breaking about this particular model. ‑ Iridescent11:36, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The aircraft is viewed as a competitor of both Airbus and Boeing and generally I think maiden flights of every new passenger airliner are newsworthy as this is one step closer to their introduction into civilian service. Brandmeistertalk12:26, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Iridescent. I'm not seeing how this is significantly different to the Airbus A320 Neo, Boeing 737 MAX, Bombardier CSeries or Comac C919 that it is intended to compete with? I disagree that maiden flights of every new passenger airliner are newsworthy (and would oppose a nomination to put them on ITNR) as there are so many different airliners being produced for different segments of the market by competing companies that most are not notable outside the industry. The Comac was significant because it was China's first, the A380 was significant as it was the largest ever, similarly I'd have supported the 747 and Concorde had ITN been around in those days. The first solar passenger airliner will be notable, as would the first twin-fuselage or flying wing airliners (if they ever happen). The first flight of an aircraft from a country that doesn't currently make airliners may be, depending on the exact circumstances. This one though seems just run-of-the-mill. Thryduulf (talk) 14:02, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I don't see how this aircraft is revolutionary or otherwise groundbreaking(as opposed to the Chinese plane). Russia already makes airliners and this doesn't seem to have different notable technologies. 331dot (talk) 14:09, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support - I looked around and saw enough coverage to support this. [1][2][3]. It's the same article by AFP, but the outlets that chose to use it are diverse. Banedon (talk) 00:55, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose As noted above, this is nowhere close to Russia's first commercial airliner compared to the China one. --MASEM (t) 02:30, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ansar al-Sharia announces it is formally dissolving amid heavy losses that have wiped out its leadership and decimated its fighters. The group was responsible for the 2012 Benghazi attack. (Reuters)
Police search for a driver who witnesses believe was driving aggressively around campers in Grays Harbor County, Washington, and deliberately backed over two campers while yelling racial slurs, killing one and injuring a second. Both victims are from the Quinault Indian Nation. (The Seattle Times)
Police announce charges of attempted murder against 150 protestors from Dhaka University over a protest to restore a statue of Lady Justice outside the Supreme Court. Protestors and police clashed near the High Court, with police firing tear gas and water cannons after protestors breached a barricade. Police claim protestors wielded sticks and stones in a bid to murder on-duty officers. (Dhaka Tribune)
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Nominator's comments: Has recieved attention world wide. Her release and deportation has as well been reported on by world media. Please suggest other blurbs as well. --BabbaQ (talk) 22:20, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. If "her release and deportation have been reported on by world media", it's certainly passed me by; likewise, I can see nothing in the article, let alone the blurb, to indicate why this event has any significance at all other than to her friends and family. "Foreign national gets deported after serving their time for a felony conviction" is such a standard practice, it's more noteworthy when somebody doesn't get deported on their release (Learco Chindamo is the case that springs to mind). ‑ Iridescent22:56, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support since it's been reported so much. To answer Iridescent, "Her story captivated Australia, hogging headlines and prime time television for months, and initially putting strain on diplomatic ties between Australia and Indonesia" (quoted from Reuters). That may have been years ago, but people now clearly still care, given the coverage. Still only weakly support because it does seem rather local and not likely to have lasting consequences. Banedon (talk) 00:59, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Did you click the link? Also, searching for "Corby" on your favourite search engine should turn up lots of recent results. Banedon (talk) 01:34, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This seemed to be an expected result once time was served, so the process just being followed is not ITN. --MASEM (t) 02:31, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for the reasons stated by Masem. If this tabloid story is published on ITN, then the next logical step would be to have the Kardashians as an ongoing item. Gfcvoice (talk) 12:05, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Article needs updating Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: As the Kashmir insurgency goes on and is no longer on ongoing, this is another notable move since he succeeed the death of that whose death re-started the instability. Lihaas (talk) 05:14, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, article is a four sentence substub that says absolutely nothing about the subject other than his birthplace, his job, and his place of death. ‑ Iridescent09:26, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Iridescent. If any interested editors can work on the article and get it into shape before it becomes stale, ping some of us opposing here and we'll reevaluate it. Rhodesisland (talk) 04:17, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Not that I'm aware of. It has been subject to occasional discussion, but usually at this time of year when lots of leagues, cup competitions etc are coming to a conclusion all around the same time. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:52, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Personally, I think that sport events deserves a separate section on the main page, with many sport competitions to be highlighted there. - EugεnS¡m¡on20:58, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's comments: The oldest and one of the most important football cups in the world. If we mention India's IPL and The USA's NFL/NBA in ITN, we should mention this, as well. Ravivyas16 (talk) 20:20, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose article isn't good enough in the match summary area. Otherwise I agree it's reasonable to equate this competition to the Superbowl or the IPL finals. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:26, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
As above: this is a famous cup and it is seen around the world. However, the summary looks more like the summary of a summary you see in the lead, not what's expected of the main section. Harambe Walks (talk) 20:41, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose deciding which association football tournaments meet ITN notability is essentially a subjective judgement call. As much as we can make semi-objective statements of the form "X is older, Y has more TV viewers, Z has more money involved", it's essentially a matter of opinion to what extent these criteria matter and where the "bar" for posting even is. So, for me, the only English tournament that I think should be posted is the more prestigious Premier League, but, eh, your mileage may vary. --LukeSurltc21:16, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nope. The Champions League is all league winners. The FA Cup is quite probably the most prestigious domestic cup competition in Europe, but really it's all about the leagues. Champions League qualification is probably a big reason for this. --LukeSurltc21:32, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That's interesting. In America winning the league is not as important as winning the post-league playoffs. If a team thinks it has the best seed in the tournament in the bag they might even replace star players with substitutes. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 22:46, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support Quite frankly I'm amazed we're even having a debate over the notability of the final of the oldest, most prestigious and high-profile domestic cup competition in football. For years this was the biggest game of the year and the only game shown live on TV in England. It may have lost some of its lustre in the Premier League era but it still attracts huge attention. The quality of the article is fine, it's in the news, it should be posted.Pawnkingthree (talk) 01:57, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per LukeSurl. This is association football - there are lots of competitions. If we feature this, what about the EPL, Bundelisga, La Liga, Champions League, UEFA final, etc? All these competitions end roughly around now. Sure, this may be the most widely-followed cup competition, but it's still one of many. With so many competitions in this sport ending around the same time, I think we should be selective about which to feature. We chose EPL + Champions League (they're ITNR), which is fine and sufficient. Banedon (talk) 01:03, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There has been no dispute that this competition is the biggest cup competition of all. To answer the points about ITNR, the reason that this isn't on ITNR, in my opinion, is due to legitimate concern over whether there is space for the FA Cup given the crowded schedule of potential postings a week before, therefore the decision needs to be made on a case-by-case basis. In this case, given that none of the leagues were posted for quality reasons, and given that the oldest story (a sporting story, I might add) is over a week old), I think those circumstances lend themselves to posting on this occasion. StillWaitingForConnection (talk) 05:16, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I don't see any justification for having two English football competitions. I regard La Liga, the Bundesliga and Serie A as more important. While it is probably still true that the FA Cup is the biggest domestic cup competition, it is not as big as it once was. Neljack (talk) 10:53, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think we are going to get two English football competitions. It looks like none of the league articles are going to be posted (as StillWaiting says, there were quality objections and most of them are stale now) so if we're going to have a football story on ITN it might as well be this one.Pawnkingthree (talk) 11:59, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The Champions League final is in two days; if we're going to have a cup final, it should be that one. (It's not too WP:CRYSTAL to assume that the CL will be ready for posting almost immediately; as the most important annual sporting fixture in the world, it will have huge numbers of people working on it and will be brought up to standard almost as soon as the final whistle is blown.) ‑ Iridescent12:07, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment People should stop opposing just because other things exist. I thought we were supposed to judge based on quality and notability. What's with all the nonsense comparing different cups, leagues, and so on? The best solution has always been to make a sports section but still everyone refuses. LordAtlas (talk) 22:52, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose per TRM, the match summary is of insufficient depth. If that were expanded, one could consider my vote a full support. --Jayron3214:09, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Support I fixed one CN about the band not working with Gregg again. There's one lingering CN about his father moving to Vanleer in 1945 - the date is not clear, but he was definitely a resident there as he was murdered there in 1949. As that's a minor point that's not critical or contentious, this is well sourced and ready to go. --MASEM (t) 23:43, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's comments: Served in many political capacities, most notably as President Jimmy Carter's National Security Advisor. Note that the article is currently marked as a {{recent death}} at the time of this nomination —Gestrid (talk) 03:25, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'd support RD if it weren't for the fact that the "National Security Advisor" section is completely unsourced at the moment. Mélencron04:16, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
While this may be true, we are supposed to focus on the quality of the article, not the importance of the person. —Gestrid (talk) 06:14, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose BlurbThis should be posted, and there is nothing wrong with supporting a blurb, (which I think is unwarranted (old person dies) in this case). But Gestrid's comment that we are not to focus on the importance of the person in regards to possible blurbs is baseless. RD was never meant to exclude blurbs for persons of importance. μηδείς (talk) 10:06, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@μηδείς: I'm not opposing the blurb (which I would be in favor of, if not for the citation problems mentioned here). I'm reminding them to base their arguments off of article quality, not importance of the person, as the notice just above my nom comments says: [T]he nomination of any individual human [...] with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article.—Gestrid (talk) 14:39, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – Some stories characterize him rather narrowly as national security adviser to Carter, who served just one term. But Brzezinski was a prescient voice for reasonable, realistic foreign policy for four decades, and was widely admired – not least for his eloquence, despite his heavy Polish accent. On that basis I could support a blurb, but I recognize this may be a U.S. point of view. Sca (talk) 14:45, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's comments: The flooding is believed to be the worst since May 2003, article still in process of getting updated. Sherenk1 (talk) 00:10, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Disaster Management Centre of Sri Lanka reports that 91 people are killed and 110 people from 14 districts are missing due to flood and landslide. (BBC)
A spokesman for the Chipotle Mexican Grill restaurant chain reveals that hackers stole customer payment data from most of their stores over a span of three weeks starting from the end of March. (Reuters)
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Support. Unfortunate escalation of violence outside the Sinai and Northern Egyptian regions. Currently working on updating the article. SpencerT♦C15:58, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Supportarticle in reasonable shape, no tags. I have added a pro-forma blurb, but it can obviously be improved. μηδείς (talk) 17:02, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support article is expanded and sourced sufficiently for posting, and the event is clearly notable for ITN's purposes. --MASEM (t) 17:07, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Update - Egyptian warplanes struck militant camps in Libya, apparently belonging to the Shura Council of Mujahideen in Derna, in response to the attack.[11] Obviously a notable development and the article (probably the blurb too) should be updated accordingly. Won't be doing much about any of this these days, unfortunately. Fitzcarmalan (talk) 20:14, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support – No. 1 on many major media sites today. But the Egyptian attack on "terrorist training camps" in Derna, Libya, doesn't belong belong in the blurb, especially since there's little word yet on results. Sca (talk) 20:45, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Gianforte wins the election with over 50% of the vote to Quist's 44%. The political fallout if any is unknown as many voters cast unchangable absentee ballots before the incident took place. (The New York Times)(Bloomberg)
Results of the Juno mission are announced by NASA researchers, revealing new and unexpected information concerning Jupiter's poles, meteorology, and magnetic and gravitational fields. (CNN)
Rocket Lab launches its 3D-printedElectron rocket on a test flight from Māhia Peninsula in New Zealand. This is the first launch from New Zealand and the first from a private facility. Electron is 17 meters high, is intended for frequent launches of small payloads, and costs $5 million per liftoff. SpaceX'sFalcon 9 stands at 70 meters, carries up to 22,800 kilograms to the ISS, and costs $62 million per launch. (BBC)(Smithsonian)
As part of an ongoing investigation, British police arrest six people in connection with Monday's deadly explosion, including a 23-year-old man who was taken into custody Tuesday. (ABC News)(Reuters)(Reuters²)
The father, Ramadan Abedi, and younger brother, Hashem Abedi, of suspected bomber Salman Abedi are arrested in Tripoli by the Libyan Counter-Terrorism forces. (Chicago Tribune)(Hindustan Times)
The Italian Coast Guard reports that at least 20 migrants are killed when their 500-passenger boat capsizes in the Mediterranean Sea off Libya's coast. About 1,700 people have been rescued in 15 operations since Tuesday. (AP via ABC News)
During a phone call between U.S. president Donald Trump and Philippine president Rodrigo Duterte, Trump allegedly congratulates Duterte on his drug war, which has been widely criticized for its brutality by human rights organizations. (Reuters)(The Washington Post)
PresidentDonald Trump's proposed budget for fiscal year 2018, titled "America First: A Budget Blueprint to Make America Great Again," has a $2 trillion accounting error over 10 years because it uses the same money twice for two different purposes. (NBC News)
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Weak oppose WHO doesn't have the same influence as the UN (where we would have the election of the new DG as an ITNR), and so this seems less impactful. I would also note Adhanom's article has some sourcing issues throughout and needs to be fixed up. --MASEM (t) 19:56, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nope. While the World Health Organization is an estimable and important international agency, in the big scheme of things it lacks the significance of the U.N., the EU, NATO and other international agencies wielding political punch or moral authority, such as the Holy See. – Sca (talk) 21:02, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral: Margaret Chan was a high-profile DG (SARS, swine flu, ebola...) so the position's not that obscure. But Tedros's article is a mess. In principle I'd love to see it there, but I don't think it passes muster. Moscow Mule (talk) 01:54, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The specific person who leads the WHO has little effect on its mission. It isn't a government or even a deliberative international body like the UN Security Council or General Assembly. Just where I live if one were to go on the street and ask people who the head of the WHO is, they would probably respond with "what is the WHO?". 331dot (talk) 09:59, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose per Masem. The WHO are certainly notable, but I'm not convinced this is such a big world role that it warrants inclusion in ITN. Obviously the article would have to be better as well. — Amakuru (talk) 10:00, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose no where near as important as a departmental or ministerial appointment in an actual nation-state, and we do not post those at all. μηδείς (talk) 19:51, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose - Article is essentially a stub. Politician never attained a Cabinet position or large role in the PNG government, and is therefore lacking in international importance, and shouldn't make it to the main page. Stormy clouds (talk) 18:10, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's comments: Nominating individual countries that have legalized same-sex marriage stopped a while back, but considering this is the first in Asia on track to do so, I think it might be suitable for the Main Page. APKwhisper in my ear09:49, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I think this is becoming relatively common due to LGBT agenda, but there's also a procedural issue: the parliament will still have to amend existing laws or pass new ones and "it's still unclear how far parliament will go". Interestingly, last year's poll showed 56% of the Taiwanese were against it. Brandmeistertalk10:48, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Brandmeister has a userwhatsy on his userpage that says "This user believes marriage is between one man and one woman." So I'm guessing that he means what you think he means. --Mkativerata (talk) 23:32, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
As someone who openly supports the LGBTQ community and has several friends who are not cisgendered, I can admit there is a certain bias on Wikipedia towards the left-wing views of non-heterosexuality. Some of them are most definitely warranted, but I've always disliked how any opposing viewpoint are condemned as phobic; how there is almost no weight given to the considerable conservative voice that exists. In my opinion, shaming one's views on the issue is still a minor personal attack. Please do not shame the opposing viewpoint, we are a neutral forum. - Floydianτ¢01:38, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No-one is shaming Brandmeister for his views on LGBT matters. I'm shaming him for the biased editing evident from the comment "due to LGBT agenda". --Mkativerata (talk) 02:37, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ignoring the potentially pejorative use, in what way is he wrong? It's literally an agenda the LGBT have in order to fight for equality. LordAtlas (talk) 02:51, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Because he wasn't factually wrong in his statement. Stop personal attacks. His/her supporting of man/woman marriage in no way demonstrates they've done any editing on Wikipedia in a biased manner. We could likely say the same about you. LordAtlas (talk) 03:15, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No-one's shaming his views, just the unnecessary way that the pejorative phrase "due to LGBT agenda" was shoved into the sentence. It would have been perfectly fine without those four words - inserting your own biases into the conversation is just being a dick. Black Kite (talk)07:18, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - I'm open to posting this if and when the Parliament of Taiwan acts. First in Asia = significant. Until then, all the New York Times says is that the ruling "paves the way for Taiwan to become the first place in Asia to recognize same-sex marriage", noting that the Parliament has two years to act. --Mkativerata (talk) 23:32, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support it's in the news now. That should suffice. In the same way we posted the results of the Brexit referendum even though it wasn't constitutionally binding and it was months before it actually happened. Also, as Mkativerata said, first in Asia = significant. Banedon (talk) 00:44, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose (weak) - The problem is that nothing has changed. LGBT still can't get married in Taiwan. Additionally, do we consider Taiwan a country or part of China? LordAtlas (talk) 01:34, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This particular battle in the culture wars is over and has been for quite some time. Legalization of homosexual marriage was news for a while but it has become fairly routine. Someone ping me if/when it's legalized in Saudi Arabia or Russia and I might consider supporting that particular blurb. But I think we have reached the point where each country that legalizes it no longer warrants a mention on ITN. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:10, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support Asia has been a rather conservative region on LGBT rights (only 21% in mainland China think homosexuality is morally acceptable) so the legalization of same-sex marriage in the first Asian country has major significance. EternalNomad (talk) 03:02, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as, unlike in other countries, this Supreme Court of Taiwan ruling doesn't actually change the law. It is the actual change in the legality of same-sex marriage in Taiwan which would be a good ITN item, not this intermediate step. If we do post, we should be careful not to imply there has been a law change in the blurb, as most folk will likely assume the Taiwanese Supreme Court has similar powers to the US Supreme Court. --LukeSurltc07:48, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose primarily as that this only clears the way to allow legislation to allow for same-sex marriages (they are still illegal, the court is only ruling that is a right and thus force a change in law). I would agree that the first Asian country to actually pass same-sex marriage rights will be likely ITN. --MASEM (t) 16:02, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support - arguments about how this only paves the way for future events are insignificant, as the precedent set before is that these events are reported upon when that transition becomes possible. Trump's election victory was reported in November, even though the legislation states that he didn't win until December. Ditto for Brexit. Besides, this is the first time it happened in Asia. Stormy clouds (talk) 18:21, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support - it doesn't matter when the parliament passes the law, the end result is evident. Same-sex couples can be registered based on this ruling if the parliament fails to meet the two year deadline. As User:Banedon has mentioned, we have posted it at the time of Brexit way before it happened. Pratyush (talk) 17:44, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support although weakly, since I do oppose further such postings in the West as commonplace, and am not sure that this is a final step. But if it is going to be posted, it should be posted now. μηδείς (talk) 19:49, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The man suspected of carrying out the Manchester attack is identified as 22-year-old Salman Abedi, who died at the scene. Abedi was born in Manchester to Libyan parents. (ABC News)(BBC)
Former CIA Director John Brennan tells the House Intelligence Committee he knew of contacts between Trump associates and Russian officials, but is not sure collusion existed. Brennan said he warned the Russian intelligence service last August against meddling in the U.S. election. (NBC News)
Nominator's comments: This is only the second time martial law has been declared since the fall in 1986 of President Ferdinand Marcos. Sherenk1 (talk) 05:40, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for Now - story is definitely news worthy, and has enough international ramifications to be placed on ITN on the main page, but the article needs further development and the addition of more sources (the third source is currently used four times at different points of the article. Stormy clouds (talk) 06:44, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I've suggested an alternate blurb, because readers unfamiliar with Mindanao are not likely to know where Mawari is (and may even mistake it for Malawi). I've also noted that the Current Events posting states that martial law was declared for the entire island of Mindanao, that's an island of 20 million+ people. Which version is correct? (Finally, I should note that the "Islamist" mention might not be controversial, and perhaps it is even worth mentioning that Maute are an ISIL faction.) 171.117.186.105 (talk) 11:41, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Updated the alt-blurb. Also note that Duterte has 48 hours to submit a report to the Philippine Congress, which can vote to suspend the action, or uphold it and extend it if necessary. If the article is ready, I suggest posting on about 25 May. 171.117.186.105 (talk) 12:41, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Oppose for now. I see similar problems to my nomination of Nicky Hayden yesterday -- lead too short, a number of paragraphs unreferenced. (Unfortunately I don't have time to work on either right now.)--Pawnkingthree (talk) 13:37, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose due to sourcing, not only in paragraphs but the filmography too (but that latter one should be relatively easy to fill out). --MASEM (t) 13:49, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support Article could do with some work, but appears lengthy, written within the Manual of Style guidelines and well sourced. He is very notable; notable enough that he deserves an RD on the main page while these issues are fixed in my opinion. Stormy clouds (talk) 16:01, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for now' Referencing is very poor. Far too many gaps to even bother with CN tags. I have attached a ref improve tag at the top. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:26, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose regretfully. I'm counting over a dozen uncited paragraphs and many uncited sections completely. This shouldn't be hard, but with no experience in actors, movies, and what we consider reliable in that regard, I do not feel capable of fixing this properly. - Floydianτ¢00:53, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support. The article's citations have improved dramatically since yesterday. At the moment there are two uncited sentences remaining. I do not know how to find references for these, but in the worst-case scenario we can probably <!-- hide --> these comments until suitable references can be found. How long does the lead need to be? It's a good summary I think. 171.116.245.37 (talk) 05:32, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support This is more than adequate with regard to info. I've seen far lesser known people with far smaller articles in significantly poorer condition that get a mention on the main page. He died two days ago, how long does it remain recent for? I can't believe we judge if someone appears on RD when we don't know when someone will die. The point is that he has died and people will be looking for his page, and the fact that his name isn't appearing before now is shameful. He is one of Britain's most recognized actors and played arguably the worlds most well known character a record 7 times, and we can't even list him? We can't make sure all bios are in perfect condition in the unlikely event that they will die today or tomorrow. The point is being missed here. — Calvin99908:37, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Calvin999: The merits of posting Moore are not at issue any more, as anyone with an article now merits posting to RD. No one said the article needs to be perfect before or after his death, but it does need to be improved to have sufficient quality to feature on the Main Page of one of the most popular websites in the world to be seen by millions of people. If you feel the issues have been resolved, then say so and if an admin agrees they will post it. It isn't that complicated. 331dot (talk) 09:03, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
By the time it's improved, his death won't be recent anymore. This is my point, and the point that is being missed. — Calvin99910:04, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Calvin999: I get what you are saying but this is not a news ticker. It is a way to highlight articles that readers may be interested in, and as such those articles must be in decent shape. Articles that are not ready to be posted shouldn't be posted. Instead of criticizing the nonposting, you could work to improve the article so that it is ready for posting. You don't seem to dispute that it needs work- if you feel the issues raised have been resolved, please say so. 331dot (talk) 10:08, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't say it needed work; I've supported it going ahead as it is. Why isn't anyone opposing it helping to improve? His article actually has more sources than the other 4 people on RD main page at the moment. It's not a perfect article, but it's not as bad as everyone is saying it is. I think it's okay for main page. — Calvin99910:19, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The article is even now seen by millions of people, most people don't get to the article via the Main page of the English Wikipedia, they simply google him. I think it would make the Wikipedia look more ridiculous in the eyes of most readers if it ignores Moore's death on the Main page. The article is not perfect, but good enough for the main page. Support --Clibenfoart (talk) 09:28, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - there is consensus to post (EDIT: if the issues causing opposes have been addressed [edit added: 16:12, 25 May 2017 (UTC)]), but before I do this (unless someone else does it first), does the refimprove tag needed to be removed and have the issues causing that tag to be placed on the article been addressed? Carcharoth (talk) 15:55, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The issues about referencing have not been dealt with. There's about eight or so unsourced paragraphs that include subjective language that absolutely need sourcing ,along with two CNs, and an entire unsourced filmography. The tag needs to stay, and this still is inappropriate to post in this state. --MASEM (t) 15:59, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Concur with Masem. Sorry, this article is still well below acceptable standards for linking on the main page. Also we do not post articles with orange tags and yes the issues need to be resolved before it can be removed. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:04, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Was in the middle of taking a closer look. I wouldn't put it as strongly as you both do (have clarified my earlier comment), but I agree that further work is needed. But not rushed work obviously, which is why I can't do it right now. Carcharoth (talk) 16:08, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nearly ready Yorkshiresky and others are commended for fixing up most of the reference issues here. I spot three places that I just placed specific CN tags for that are subjective statements that need some type of sourcing, but once those are done, this is ready. --MASEM (t) 15:30, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment have added refs or removed the subjective statements as I couldn't find any reliable sources to back them up. If someone else finds them, please reinstate though they're less than crucial to the overall story of his career. yorkshiresky (talk) 16:48, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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