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Glossary

  • Blurbs are one-sentence summaries of the news story.
    • Altblurbs, labelled alt1, alt2, etc., are alternative suggestions to cover the same story.
    • A target article, bolded in text, is the focus of the story. Each blurb must have at least one such article, but you may also link non-target articles.
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  • Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate.
Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready!
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The better your article's quality, the better it covers the event and the wider its perceived significance (see WP:ITNSIGNIF for details), the better your chances of getting the blurb posted.

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(Closed) 44th G7 Summit

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Article: 44th G7 summit (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The 44th G7 summit begins in La Malbaie, Quebec, Canada, amid rising tensions with the United States. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The 44th G7 summit begins in La Malbaie, Quebec, Canada
News source(s): http://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-44409775
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Nominator's comments: Widely notable summit that is regularly featured on the front page, made even more notable due to recent events. PineForst282929 (talk) 13:00, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • We should definitely get rid of amid rising tensions with the United States, that is unnecessary editorialising. --LukeSurl t c 13:05, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, and even if it were allowable, it's too vague on top of that.--WaltCip (talk) 13:10, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Alt added. --LukeSurl t c 13:30, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I expect they'll go out for drinks & dinner. Sca (talk) 20:57, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • Actually, unlike the World's Fairs, it's not necessarily the opening that's ITRN. So no-one need nom it for removal yet, just wait to see if anything of any actual relevance happens. And see how the article evolves. Easy. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:04, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose nothing has happened. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:48, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose This is ITNR but the article quality is well below our standards. There are several empty sections and at least one section that is entirely unsourced. Beyond that the article is basically a skeleton with little meat. I suggest waiting until the summit concludes at which point we may be able to post it, assuming improved article quality, with a more interesting blurb. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:58, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality, but as ITNR should be posted if it is improved. Normally we post G7/G8 at the start of the summit but as there's calls to bring Russia back in or to kick the US out, this is a case where waiting for the summit to conclude makes sense, and, if any major event like those happen, include that in the blurb. --Masem (t) 15:03, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    When did we last post G7 summit please? The Rambling Man (talk) 15:04, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Technically, we shouldn't be asking that question as long as G7/G8 is on the ITNR list. We posted 2013, didn't post the cancellation of the 40th/2014 when they kicked Russia out, didn't post 2015 and best I can tell, wasn't nominated in either 2016 or 2017 (though they did happen of course). --Masem (t) 15:11, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Technically we can ask any question we like so I'm not sure what "technical" reason prevents me from asking such a question. You just made an assertion about us "normally posting G7/G8 at the start of the summit" and I wanted to see evidence for that. Thanks for your response. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:17, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    When we posted, we posted due to the start of the summit, normally. We just don't always post the summit, in some cases not nominated, in other cases, not gaining consensus to post for various reasons; but a check through the archives suggests that in nearly all cases, the nomination for ITNC was made based on the start of the summit. My point initially was that given the situation leading into and around this specific summit, waiting until it concludes to see what events develop may be better than posting its start --Masem (t) 16:00, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    The 2013 posting you mean? I understand. I thought you said we "normally posted" it, asserting some kind of pedigree of posting the opening. That clearly isn't the case. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:08, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - ITN/R is not an automatic notability pass. If this isn't notable, it's not notable.--WaltCip (talk) 15:29, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Um, yes it is. "This page in a nutshell: The recurring events listed on this page are considered suitable for inclusion on the Main Page in the In the news section every time they occur. Other recurring events may also be included if they satisfy the usual ITN criteria." It just needs to be sufficiently updated to post. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:30, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • The opening of the summit is not notable. The conclusion may be, but this isn't.--WaltCip (talk) 15:33, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
        • Indeed. Where are people reading that the opening of the G8 is ITNR? I'm certainly not seeing that, but perhaps "mine eyes are dim, I cannot see"... The Rambling Man (talk) 15:36, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
          • @WaltCip and The Rambling Man: ITNR just says the G8, or G7, is ITNR. It doesn't say opening or closing. Perhaps we should add a qualifier to note that we should post it upon its completion. Or was it meant to highlight the event in an ongoing style? I'm not sure of the intent there. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:49, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
            • I just thought it was common sense because the opening of these is not inherently notable in any sense, what is decided and/or enacted during the course of the meetings may be. It's almost certainly jettisoning it from ITNR for that very reason. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:57, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
              • I can understand why it was nominated now, as it's in the news and certainly dominated the news radio I was listening to on my way to work (well, that and Anthony Bourdain). I think it could go up now, but only if in better quality than it is. Otherwise, we can hope it's in good enough shape when the meeting ends, and there is something noteworthy to include in a blurb. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:00, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose both on quality, and because the ITNR listing (which is definitely there) should be for the end of the summit, once the news of the summit has been reported. power~enwiki (π, ν) 15:42, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose it makes more sense to post the ending. Lepricavark (talk) 16:48, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose As others have mentioned, it makes more sense to post once the summit has concluded. While the increasing stance of President Trump to be isolationist is making news, I think that's another subject for another time. StrikerforceTalk 17:01, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree that, at least in this case, the conclusion is what matters, especially this year where it looks like Trump will be left out of the closing statement. 331dot (talk) 17:03, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Near unanimous opposition. Nothing else is going to happen today. Suggest close. Sca (talk) 20:57, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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(Posted to RD) RD: Anthony Bourdain

Article: Anthony Bourdain (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  American chef and personality Anthony Bourdain is found dead from apparent suicide. (Post)
News source(s): BBC. Guardian.
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: US celebrity chef and television personality. Referencing issues. Sherenk1 (talk) 11:51, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Several sources say suicide, which given his age and that he was seemingly in top form is surprising. Does this belong in the lede of the article? Sca (talk) 13:35, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Tagged about 8-9 statements for citations, but I don't think these are incredibly hard to complete (they are his well known activities but they should be cited). Obviously support once fixed. Iff this is deemed a suicide, I would potentially suggest this could be a blurb, but I'd say that's a premature call right now. --Masem (t) 14:07, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Weak Support Blurb I'd equate Bourdain with Robin Williams or David Bowie - one of the top people in their field (culinary arts in this case, rather than a TV personality) with sufficient international reputation, and as it is pretty much assured a suicide, the death falls under "unusual". If it was a natural death, I'd likely oppose it, and I definitely understand the resiliency towards including this as a blurb now. --Masem (t) 19:03, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb even if this is a suicide, and the article is improved to FA status. Not Thatcher or Mandela, won't be a 3 days news fest like Michael Jackson. --LaserLegs (talk) 14:36, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb top of his field, widely known, suicide is atypical for his field (unlike say musicians). Nergaal (talk) 15:04, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Anthony Bourdain was an influential chef and TV host, yet still commited suicide. It's been confirmed by CNN and by his friends. This is a terrible loss in food and entertainment media. —StarkinMN 15:35, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Celebrity chef and TV personality Anthony Bourdain committed suicide on Friday at the age of 61, in a shocking death that has stunned the food world. More news: "Bourdain hanged himself in his room at the Le Chambard hotel in Kaysersberg, France, where he was filming an upcoming episode of his CNN show Parts Unknown, according to French media." Count Iblis (talk) 15:07, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Not a reply to this !vote, but just a reminder that Daily Mail should not be used for sourcing anything BLP related. Mind you, that it was likely suicide was confirmed by multiple RSes, not an issue here, but we should be careful using DM to justify a reason to post an RD/blurb. --Masem (t) 18:49, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conditional Support for RD There are a handful of CN tags in an otherwise good article. Once those are handled this should be good to go. Oppose Blurb. I have no idea where this silly idea that blurbs are reserved for persons on the level of Nelson Mandela or Margaret Thatcher originated, but that is obviously unrealistic and has never been the generally accepted standard. Nevertheless, while a well known television personality, I don't think he was in the top tier of his field, which has been the customary standard for blurbs. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:10, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb, support RD. Not newsworthy enough for a blurb. Natureium (talk) 17:18, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD. I just took care of the last few CN tags. - JuneGloom07 Talk 17:19, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb: His unexpected death and left a huge impact and is being compared to that of Robin Williams. Article in good shape. If blurb fails then count me as a Support RD, but aim for blurb. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 17:29, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb, support RD: This is shocking and sad, but isn't newsworthy enough in my book to merit a blurb. I'm not sure if he was well-known internationally, although he was an important cultural figure in the US. Jip Orlando (talk) 17:55, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support for RD, possibly blurb - Well-known culinary celebrity who showcased the world's cuisine. WAR headlines on many media outlets this morning (CNN notwithstanding). CoatCheck (talk) 17:57, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tagging as Ready for RD. Discussions about a blurb can continue. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:04, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted as RD for the time being, blurb discussions can continue. Black Kite (talk) 18:07, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • (edit conflict × 2) What Black Kite said. Vanamonde (talk) 18:12, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb. There's no way this rises to blurb levels of significance or impact. This is exactly the sort of notable but not blurb-able person RD was created for. RD is fine. Modest Genius talk 18:15, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb Bourdain is currently at the top of the New York Times' website with no less than five six different articles. He's credited with changing how food and food culture is covered in popular media. (For example: "Among other things, he was one of the first writers to tell the dining public that many high-profile New York restaurants would cease to function without the work and talents of Mexican employees. It was almost a casual aside, yet it suddenly opened new subjects to the purview of food writing: immigration policy, labor conditions, racism.") Forbes calls him a "culinary Hemingway." The Telegraph says that his "influence on chefs and food writers is hard to overstate." The Smithsonian called him the "the original rock star" of the culinary world. (Note: If this does go up, which to be fair appears unlikely, the blurb should not mention how he died.) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 18:54, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb per CoatCheck and Ted17. Gamaliel (talk) 19:23, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb - With respect to supporters, I’m with those saying this posted RD should not be a blurb. Arguments to the contrary are unconvincing, and in my view the overall ITN-blurb notability just isn’t there. Jusdafax (talk) 19:39, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • The applicable criterion in question is if the death ITSELF is noteworthy. This could be due to the circumstances or the "state funeral" sort of thing. So while a suicide is nominally noteworthy, it does not appear that reaction is particularly targeted at that. Rather, the reaction is largely tied to his legacy. ghost 22:17, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb our blurb standards for death are very high, and I don’t see this making it. This isn’t a major international story - Bourdain wasn’t greatly well-known outside the US. —LukeSurl t c 23:08, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: Few recent updates. On behalf of User:Tone. --LaserLegs (talk) 14:34, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No essential updates in the last 5 days. Clearly, the outbreak is still ongoing but the news have receded, update-wise. --Tone 08:30, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2018 Stanley Cup Finals

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Article: 2018 Stanley Cup Finals (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In ice hockey, the Washington Capitals defeat the Vegas Golden Knights to win the Stanley Cup Finals. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In ice hockey, the Washington Capitals defeat the Vegas Golden Knights to win the Stanley Cup Finals (Conn Smythe Trophy winner Alexander Ovechkin pictured).
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 03:02, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) PC Party Wins Ontario Election

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Nominator's comments: Ontario contains almost 40% of Canada's population, and the fact that Doug Ford, brother of the late Rob Ford, is the leader should be of note. GrandKokla (talk) 02:59, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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June 7

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NASA Curiosity finds organic matter on Mars

Article: Life on Mars (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: NASA reports discovery of complex organic molecules found by Curiosity in the Gale crater on Mars (Post)
Alternative blurb: NASA reports discovery of complex organic molecules found by Curiosity in the Gale crater on Mars.
News source(s): Science (journal article), Guardian
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Quoting from the Science abstract, "Diverse pyrolysis products, including thiophenic, aromatic, and aliphatic compounds released at high temperatures (500° to 820°C), were directly detected by evolved gas analysis" - this is not just methane. I don't think we'd want to link to Life on Mars as that's too speculative, but the results do show that some 3billion years ago, there were organic chemistry on the surface or subsurface of Mars. Masem (t) 18:54, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • If that is the case, you should correct the template above. When you say that the updated article, in the template, is supposed to be Curiosity (rover), that is the article we're all supposed to assess for main page appropriateness. If you didn't want that article to be assessed, you should have identified the one you DID want assessed. I'm not a mind-reader, you know. If you tell me to assess an article, I'm going to assess the one you tell me. --Jayron32 02:29, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Also, in that case Oppose because the target article is not even linked in the blurb. --Jayron32 02:30, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
NASA reports discovery of complex organic molecules found by Curiosity in the Gale crater on Mars
wumbolo ^^^ 13:34, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Peter Stringfellow

Article: Peter Stringfellow (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: At the time of nominating there are two {{citation needed}}s, but these seem to be fairly minor issues that could be resolved fairly easily. Article is generally in good shape. LukeSurl t c 10:53, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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(Posted) RD: Red Schoendienst

Article: Red Schoendienst (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Fox News St. Louis Dispatch
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Oldest living member of Baseball Hall of Fame. Famed St. Louis "Mr. Cardinal" wore the uniform longer than anybody else in team franchise history (67 of his 76 years in baseball with the Cardinals). Coached for the 1964 world champion team and managed them for their 1967 World Series win. CoatCheck (talk) 03:11, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrew per last comment. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 02:32, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

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Article: Turkish currency and debt crisis, 2018 (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item removal (Post)
Nominator's comments: Few recent updates. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 03:59, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support removal I think this is one of those cases where we misunderstood the idea of "ongoing." Yes, the crisis is ongoing, but I would not expect continual ITN level status changes. In any case, I consume a wide variety of news sources daily and have not heard a whisper of this outside of ITN. ghost 16:53, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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(Posted) RD: Glynn Edwards

Article: Glynn Edwards (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): (Telegraph)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Died 23 May, death announced today 5 June. A few referencing issues to address. Mjroots (talk) 15:02, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am busy with "mine". Is day of reporting when it's in a source, or when I bring it here? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:25, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
When it's in a source, apparently. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:27, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It does say he was a man, it's implicit from the word "actor". Mjroots (talk) 16:35, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Referencing issues addressed. Mjroots (talk) 16:42, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
[6] looks promising as ref for the filmography, but then has the same character listed dozens of times...are those TV episodes? Is this a reliable source? ghost 18:31, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I must say that is very disappointing. I'd expect much better from BFI. Not sure where else to look. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:24, 7 June 2018 (UTC) Dave??[reply]
I figured it out...eventually. It's dumb, but it is the BFI. Added a second ref from "Memorable TV" for most of them. Aside from a "who cares" CN for his school (remove it if we must) I'm happy now. ghost 21:59, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • We require articles to present a full coverage of the topic, and we require them to be above a stub; I'd assess what I looked at as a stub. There's more in the Guardian obit, if someone advocating for this can be bothered to comb through it. Espresso Addict (talk) 22:10, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Have now added as suggested. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:59, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - too late. We should stick with recent deaths, not recently reported deaths. Imagine someone who went MIA in Vietnam War and recently confirmed dead. -Zanhe (talk) 03:35, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Zanhe: there is precedent for treating these cases as being listed as though they occurred on the day of first reporting. In the scenario you mention, it would be assessed on its merits. Mjroots (talk) 05:54, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Feng Ting-kuo

Article: Feng Ting-kuo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): 前親民黨立委馮定國辭世 得年67歲 Template:Zh icon (as referenced on Deaths in 2018)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article seems in order, though I am unable to check the Chinese language refs. Reference on Deaths in 2018 for his death is also in Chinese, so I am not going to add this to the article myself. LukeSurl t c 11:21, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@1779Days: Read the fine print above: anyone notable enough for Wikipedia is notable enough for RD. And English news source is not a requirement per WP:BIAS. We post lots of insignificant figures from the English-speaking world. -Zanhe (talk) 03:27, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I have and they're fine. -Zanhe (talk) 03:28, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Kate Spade

Article: Kate Spade (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYTimes, PageSix
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: New York fashion designer and businesswoman, in an apparent suicide. Very heavy editing of the article at present. power~enwiki (π, ν) 16:36, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Notability is not under consideration for RD nominations. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article.--WaltCip (talk) 17:16, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) David Koch resigns

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Article: David Koch (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ GOP gigadonor David Koch steps down from Koch Industries (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

Article needs updating
Nominator's comments: Arguably one of the most powerful persons on the planet due to his influence on the US political system Count Iblis (talk) 15:31, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Eunice Lam

Article: Eunice Lam (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): SCMP
Credits:

Article updated
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 Zanhe (talk) 00:37, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Stale) RD: C.M. Newton

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Article: C. M. Newton (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Legendary collegiate sports administrator. Brought University of Kentucky basketball program out of the dark ages following a rules violation suspension. Brought in the shot clock and the three-point line as NCAA rules chair for basketball.— Preceding unsigned comment added by CoatCheck (talkcontribs)
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(Posted) RD: J. B. Munro

Article: J. B. Munro (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Dominion Post
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 02:20, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. I think the disability advocacy is at least touched on in the various charity positions he held? But the split between sections with the political career in the middle downplays it. I'd like to see at least a half sentence on what he did as an MP. The categories suggest he was also a councillor for Invercargill, which doesn't seem to be mentioned in the text. What happened to the biography by Stace? Espresso Addict (talk) 16:57, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Espresso Addict:: From the Otago Daily Times --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:53, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Dwight Clark

Article: Dwight Clark (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 01:52, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Frank Carlucci

Article: Frank Carlucci (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Washington Post
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article updated and well sourced --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:59, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's referenced in the Nation article; I've added it (and cleared up the {{cn}} in the next section). — Hugh (talk) 01:45, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Slovenian parliamentary election, 2018

Article: Slovenian parliamentary election, 2018 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the Slovenian parliamentary election the Slovenian Democratic Party wins the most seats. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: 99.9% of votes counted now. 10 different parties got seats in a PR system, so it's hard to declare a "winner" and the government formation (and new PM) might take a while. Article looks fairly good for the campaign coverage, just needs a bit of post-election stuff and a bit of a tidy in the tables. LukeSurl t c 11:13, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

All good. You did edit under me but updated now. Stephen 01:17, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Omar Razzaz becomes Prime Minister of Jordan

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Articles: Omar Razzaz (talk · history · tag) and 2018 Jordanian protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Omar Razzaz becomes Prime Minister of Jordan after his predecessor resigns following widespread protests against austerity measures. (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera
Credits:

Nominator's comments: News just breaking. Article isn't great. There doesn't seem to be a current article for his successor Omar al-RazzaLukeSurl t c 11:56, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Ammarpad: I don't see how your misinformed opinion has to do with this being news. The new government still has to be approved by an elected parliament, and can be also be dismissed by it. In any case it is still noteworthy as the protests are still ongoing. Makeandtoss (talk) 13:04, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conditional Support symbolic or not, this is still a head of government of a sovereign state. The new PM can use a few thousand bytes of prose though. Juxlos (talk) 14:50, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Juxlos: Designation is official now. Did my best to expand article at this moment, I expanded the protests article though. What do you think? Makeandtoss (talk) 10:01, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

June 3

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(Posted) RD: Mustapha Akanbi

Article: Mustapha Akanbi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [7]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Nigerian jurist, head of the Independent Corrupt Practices Commission. Article appears to be OK. LukeSurl t c 08:11, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Volcán de Fuego eruption

Article: 2018 Volcán de Fuego eruption (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Guatemala, Volcán de Fuego erupts, killing 7 people and forcing the closure of the La Aurora International Airport. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Guatemala, Volcán de Fuego erupts, killing 38 people.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Twenty-five people have been killed and hundreds injured in the most violent eruption in decades in Guatemala.
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Nominator's comments: First deadly volcano eruption in 2 yearsEternalNomad (talk) 01:28, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support. Would suggest bolding Volcán de Fuego, and giving updater credit to GWA88. Someone should also stay on top of the death toll, as the lava flow is currently headed towards a small town. (NorthernFalcon (talk) 01:31, 4 June 2018 (UTC))[reply]
  • Oppose for now. There's almost no prose about this eruption beyond a single sentence in a table, which imparts little more information than the blurb itself does. Would expect at least a paragraph, if not more, on this eruption, written in the main body of the article. --Jayron32 01:56, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I was originally going to state that I did not think the volcano's article merited more detail on this eruption than was currently listed, but as we're now up to 25 deaths, I'd say this eruption merits its own article and we ought to consider bolding that once it's been done. (NorthernFalcon (talk) 06:17, 4 June 2018 (UTC))[reply]
Comment Just started a separate article on the eruption at 2018 Volcán de Fuego eruption. Will work on expanding it. SounderBruce 06:56, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Not helpful. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:16, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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WP:SOFIXIT. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 19:47, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yawn, not interested. I read the article and checked the refs instead of rushing here to "Support - OMFG 62 irrelevant people DIED! IMMEDIATE POST THIS VERY IMPORTANT NEWS!". Thanks though. --LaserLegs (talk) 21:07, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I hope families of the dead don't read this comment. Very disappointing. 331dot (talk) 21:56, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Disappointing? If I-285 collapses on my drive in and I'm one of 14 people killed ... does it matter? Do I matter? Come on. You're screamer #1 about ITN not being a "news ticker" you're not gonna bring these people back by speedy posting this weeks disaster stub. It's in the news, so I support it, but pretending that it's somehow "important" or "very significant" is bordering on ridiculous. --LaserLegs (talk) 12:11, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
... plus 300 injured, plus 1.7 million affected (in a country of 15 million), plus who knows how much $$$ in damages. Yeah, it's just a tiny third-world country, so it's all irrelevant. *sigh* (I saw the article both before and after it was posted, and both times it looked short but accurate, given the information known at the time.) –FlyingAce✈hello 22:30, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
OMFG 62 irrelevant people DIED!. Irrelevant to who? We're now measuring human worth against Wikipedia notability? Hmmm. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:18, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Last winter a nor'easter stranded 10's of thousands of people, cancelled 100's of flights and crippled the north east. Know what the consensus was? "Yawn, some people were inconvenienced no one died". Lets not pretend this was posted for anything other than death toll. --LaserLegs (talk) 12:14, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

June 2

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Sports

(Stale) RD: Joe Berinson

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Article: Joe Berinson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Obit
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Australian politician. Article seems adequate. LukeSurl t c 08:16, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose While a little more fleshed out compared to the nomination below, articles of politicians need to be more than a prose list of the positions occupied to merit an RD posting imo. The article needs to have information on what the subject did while in that position, notable policy changes, issues that the subject advocated for, major controversies, etc. SpencerT•C 13:20, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose per Spencer, what's there is just fine, but it's too brief. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:03, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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(Stale) RD: Álvaro Lapuerta

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Article: Álvaro Lapuerta (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [9] (Spanish)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Spanish politician. Article seems adequately referenced, though it is perhaps only just above stub-length. LukeSurl t c 08:19, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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(Stale) RD: Nick Meglin

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Article: Nick Meglin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [10]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: American magazine editor. Article is probably just over stub size. LukeSurl t c 08:24, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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June 1

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(Stale) RD: John Julius Norwich

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Article: John Julius Norwich (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Daily Telegraph
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Norwich was a well-known historian who authored multiple books and hosted many television documentaries Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 19:01, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The image has now been removed. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 23:04, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) U.S.-North Korea summit

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Article: 2018 North Korea–United States summit (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ U.S. President Donald Trump announces that the North Korea-United States summit has been reinstated for June 12, 2018. (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: A momentous occasion (if it actually happens this time). WaltCip (talk) 18:55, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) Spanish prime minister

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Articles: Pedro Sánchez (Spanish politician) (talk · history · tag) and Mariano Rajoy (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Pedro Sánchez becomes Prime Minister of Spain after Mariano Rajoy loses a vote of no confidence. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Pedro Sánchez becomes Prime Minister of Spain after Mariano Rajoy loses a vote of no confidence.
News source(s): BBC, Guardian
Credits:

 KTC (talk) 10:00, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not ITNR but that's ok. --LaserLegs (talk) 17:53, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Premier of Pakistan changed

Article: Nasirul Mulk (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Nasirul Mulk is sworn in as Caretaker Prime Minister of Pakistan. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Former Chief Justice of Pakistan Nasirul Mulk takes oath as 7th Caretaker Prime Minister of Pakistan.
News source(s): Geo News, The Express Tribune, The News International, Pakistan Today
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Gaining widespread media coverage. Plus change of head of state is also listed in ITNR. The article seems to be in good state. Amirk94391 (talk) 09:36, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Italian government formed

Article: 2018 Italian government formation (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ After months of negotiations, the Government of Change takes power in Italy with Giuseppe Conte as prime minister (Post)
Alternative blurb: Giuseppe Conte becomes Prime Minister of Italy, leading a coalition government after protracted negotiations
News source(s): e.g. [11] with lots of previous coverage [12]
Credits:

Article updated

 Banedon (talk) 07:09, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose the Government of Change article is not updated and forms a very important part of the blurb. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:15, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. The end of a long-running saga with important implications for the world's 8th largest economy. I've added an altblurb. Modest Genius talk 11:05, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I could support this. My only niggling concern is the amount of paragraphs beginning or infested with proseline (on xx March/April/May 2018...) in the highlighted article, though repetitive yet coherent English isn't a barrier for posting. Fuebaey (talk) 15:15, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - The new government will most likely put Italy in the Euro-critic camp, as in they will oppose certain rules and agreements currently being enforced within the EU, such as the sending migrants back and having plans that go against the fiscal/economic policies of the EU. Like Modest Genius said this will have quite some implications for the EU, and is a move away from ussual Italian politics from my understanding, henche why I support putting this on the frontpage. However, the article is quite sparse and needs a update. Dragnadh (talk) 17:29, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Definitely one of the most significant developments in recent European politics. Has been covered heavily by international media.--RaviC (talk) 22:48, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question we posted the election results back on March 9th, so is this government unexpected or did it just take longer than usual to form a shaky coalition that'll collapse in 18 months and force new elections? --LaserLegs (talk) 23:06, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
All of the pre-election alliances failed to reach a coalition, but the new alliance (which includes populists from across the political spectrum) was unexpected by many due to the differences in ideology. It does however have a stable majority in both houses of the Italian Parliament. --RaviC (talk) 23:27, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for clarifying. No comment on nom. --LaserLegs (talk) 00:14, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
By which time this would no longer be news? --RaviC (talk) 13:30, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Not ITN/R but that's ok. --LaserLegs (talk) 17:19, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Arkady Babchenko fakes death

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Article: Arkady Babchenko (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Russian journalist Arkady Babchenko fakes his own death, claiming a plot on his life (Post)
News source(s): See article or Google, e.g. [13]
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: Was nominated as RD, now nominating as blurb since he didn't actually die but is making a lot of news regardless Banedon (talk) 02:05, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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