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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on April 16

Peggy Stuart Coolidge

• ... that Peggy Stuart Coolidge (1913-1981) was the first female American composer to have a recording devoted to her symphonic works, and the first American composer (male or female) to have a concert devoted entirely to her works presented in the Soviet Union?

Created by JackofOz (talk). Self nom at 11:52, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Peggy Stuart Coolidge – JackofOz (give) (tag)

• The hook is too long at 257 characters (see DYK rules). --Bruce1ee^talk 12:50, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

International variety

• ... that the name recognition for international varieties like Cabernet Sauvignon and Chardonnay is so high that many consumers believe these names are either wine regions or brand names themselves?

• Comment: Primary ref is Oxford (FN#1) in Consumer Recognition section. The online New York Times ref (FN#2) is a collaborative ref especially regarding Chardonnay

Created by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 08:07, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

•   International variety – Agne27 (give) (tag)

Love American Style (Dexter)

• ... that Melissa Rosenberg finished the script for Dexter episode "Love American Style" five weeks early as she was used to writing with the tighter schedule of commercial television?

Created by 97198 (talk). Self nom at 07:27, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Love American Style (Dexter) – 97198 (give) (tag)

Barakhamba

• ... that Barakhamba is the name prefixed to the fourteenth century Lodi period “Barakhamba Monument” in Nizamuddin complex and to “Barakhamba road" in Connaught Place in New Delhi ?

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 05:18, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Barakhamba – Nvvchar (give) (tag)

Caloplaca obamae

• ... that the Santa Rosa Island endemic lichen Caloplaca obamae is the first species to be named in honor of United States President Barack Obama?

Created by Rkitko (talk). Self nom at 03:41, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Caloplaca obamae – Rkitko (give) (tag)

Select Committee of the House of Lords on the Women's Royal Air Force

• ... that the Select Committee of the House of Lords on the Women's Royal Air Force was created after a request for a judicial enquiry was turned down? 146 chars in the hook, new article, self-nom. Ironholds (talk) 01:14, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Select Committee of the House of Lords on the Women's Royal Air Force – Ironholds (give) (tag)

• • Great. Do you think you could link "judicial enquiry"? It isn't a word that the majority readers would know. NuclearWarfare _(Talk) 01:29, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

    There isn't really anything to link it to. Judicial review, possibly? Done. Ironholds (talk) 12:17, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

    • Should it be "inquiry", not "enquiry", as in public inquiry? David Underdown (talk) 12:44, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Harald Beyer

• ... that Harald Beyer´s textbook on literary history was the most used textbook in its field at Norwegian universities between the 1950s and the mid 1990s?

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 01:05, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Harald Beyer – Oceanh (give) (tag)

Articles created/expanded on April 15

TNA X Division Championship

File:TNA X Divison Championship.JPG

• ... that most professional wrestling world championships are heavyweight titles, however the TNA X Division Championship (pictured) is not a heavyweight championship but is considered to be a world championship by Total Nonstop Action Wrestling (TNA)?

5x expanded by Wrestlinglover (talk). Self nom at 07:37, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

•   TNA X Division Championship – Wrestlinglover (give) (tag)

NHL–WHA merger

• ... that a boycott of Molson beer led to the successful merger between the National Hockey League and World Hockey Association in 1979?

Created by Resolute (talk). Self nom at 03:59, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

•   NHL–WHA merger – Resolute (give) (tag)

Mount Victoria, New South Wales

• ... that the 19th century toll bar at Mount Victoria, in New South Wales, Australia, charged coaches by how well sprung they were, with no charge applied to coaches without springs?

5x expanded by Nomadtales (talk). Self nom at 03:51, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Mount Victoria, New South Wales – Nomadtales (give) (tag)

Libertas Spain

• ... that Miguel Durán is the head of the Libertas Spain list for the 2009 Euroelections in Spain?

Created by Anameofmyveryown (talk). Self nom at 23:52, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Libertas Spain – Anameofmyveryown (give) (tag)

Greenbird

• ... that the Greenbird holds the record for the fastest speed attained in a wind-powered land vehicle?

5x expanded by Tempodivalse (talk). Self nom at 22:54, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Greenbird – Tempodivalse (give) (tag)

• Length (5x expansion), date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:15, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

'76

• ... that the comic-book mini-series '76 draws heavily on 1970s 'street' culture?

Created by Arcayne. Self nom at 18:04, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   '76 – Arcayne (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. I am going to format the references correctly, as I think they should be correct for the main page. —Mattisse (Talk) 21:00, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough. Thanks for the effort, Matisse. :) - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 22:49, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

List of ROH World Tag Team Champions

• ... that the ROH World Tag Team Championship was first represented by a trophy, instead of a normal professional wrestling tag team championship belt(s)?

Created by Wrestlinglover (talk). Self nom at 15:02, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   List of ROH World Tag Team Champions – Wrestlinglover (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Is the hook referenced per D1? (Am I missing it?) —Mattisse (Talk) 23:20, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• Sourced in the first paragraph. "At said event, the championship was represented by a trophy, which was destroyed by The American Dragon and Michael Modest after they were defeated by The Prophecy (Christopher Daniels and Donovan Morgan) to become the inaugural champions." A ref is at the end of it to a review of said event that was released on DVD. Making it a reliable source since the guy is just stating mainly his opinions on the match and some main points.--WillC 23:24, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• I will take your word for it. The footnotes don't seem to be references. Your format is confusing. See WP:Layout and WP:Footnotes. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:30, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• The footnote format confuses me as well. Not use to using them. But they helped my so far. Got two FLs with that format. The footnotes really just tell common sense stuff. Like what event was released on DVD and which one was a PPV. Simple stuff.--WillC 23:35, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Violet Douglas-Pennant

• ... that when Violet Douglas-Pennant became Commandant of the WRAF she found that the 14,000 members and 500 camps were administered by only 70 officers? New article, self nom by Ironholds (talk) 13:34, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Violet Douglas-Pennant – Ironholds (give) (tag)

Mmh. Article's fine to go, but hook needs rewording, I think - we should probably spell out Women's Royal Air Force. Perhaps something about the dismissal, instead? Shimgray | talk | 15:57, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• ... that Violet Douglas-Pennant claimed she had been dismissed from the Women's Royal Air Force to cover up "rife immorality"? Ironholds (talk) 00:58, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Catherine Jauniaux

• ... that Belgian avant-garde singer Catherine Jauniaux has been described as a "one-woman-orchestra" and a "human sampler"?

Created by Bruce1ee (talk). Self nom at 13:33, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Catherine Jauniaux – Bruce1ee (give) (tag)

Argentine wine

• ... that Argentina is the fifth leading producer of wine in the world?

• ALT1:... that in the 1970s, the average Argentine consumed nearly 24 gallons (equal to 120 standard 750ml bottles) of Argentine wine a year?
• ALT2:... that Argentina has some of the highest elevated vineyards in the world, including one planted at 9,900 ft above sea level?
• Comment: Hook 1-Johnson Atlas ref (FN#1) in lead, Hook2-Oxford ref (FN#6) in Economic troubles and growth of export industry, Hook3-Stevenson ref (FN#8) in Northwestern regions sub section of Wine region section.

5x expanded by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 11:45, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Argentine wine – Agne27 (give) (tag)

Fanny Ronalds

• ... that during their long, discreet affair, Arthur Sullivan recorded the number of his intimate acts at each meeting with socialite Fanny Ronalds (pictured) in his diary using a number in parentheses?

Created by Ssilvers (talk). Self nom at 05:31, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Fanny Ronalds – Ssilvers (give) (tag)

Four Quartets, Burnt Norton, East Coker (poem), The Dry Salvages, Little Gidding (poem)

• ... that T. S. Eliot's Paradiso-like poems of the Four Quartets (Burnt Norton, East Coker, The Dry Salvages, and Little Gidding) are modeled on the structure of his Inferno-like poem The Waste Land?

• Comment: Hook comes from second paragraph of Four Quartets#Dante and Christianity. Discussion on the topic can be found here.

Created/expanded by Ottava Rima (talk). Self nom at 04:01, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Four Quartets – Ottava Rima (give) (tag)
•   Burnt Norton – Ottava Rima (give) (tag)
•   East Coker (poem) – Ottava Rima (give) (tag)
•   The Dry Salvages – Ottava Rima (give) (tag)
•   Little Gidding (poem) – Ottava Rima (give) (tag)

The Switchman

• ... that the prolific Juan José Arreola's The Switchman was criticized for being too unrealistic of a satire?

Created by NuclearWarfare (talk). Self nom at 03:59, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   The Switchman – NuclearWarfare (give) (tag)

Ritter Pásmán

• ... that Ritter Pásmán was the only opera composed by Johann Strauss II?

Created by Tempodivalse (talk). Self nom at 01:50, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Ritter Pásmán – Tempodivalse (give) (tag)

• Length and source verified. Book sources for hook accepted in good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 03:20, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Anti-partisan operations in World War II

• ... that German Nazi anti-partisan operations on the Eastern Front were much more brutal than those on the Western Front?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 00:38, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Anti-partisan operations in World War II – Piotrus (give) (tag)

Articles created/expanded on April 14

Wench Trouble

• ...that in an attempt to create an authentic fantasy setting, the costumes in the Kröd Mändoon pilot episode "Wench Trouble" were built with no zippers or velcro, and the weapons were made by a professional armorer specializing in ancient weapon replicas?

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 05:16, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Wench Trouble – Hunter Kahn (give) (tag)

Golden Powers

• ...that actress India de Beaufort prepared for her exotic dance in the Kröd Mändoon episode "Golden Powers" by studying pole dancing at a Hungarian strip club?

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 05:16, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Golden Powers – Hunter Kahn (give) (tag)

Helen Huang

• ... that pianist Helen Huang made her solo debut with the Philadelphia Orchestra when she was only eight years old?

Created by TJRC (talk). Self nom at 22:31, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Helen Huang – TJRC (give) (tag)

• 1367 characters of prose and tagged as a stub. Please expand. Shubinator (talk) 22:37, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Sunnylands

• ... that so many world leaders were hosted at the Annenberg Estate Sunnylands that it earned restricted airspace status?

Created by Happyme22 (talk). Self nom at 05:07, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Sunnylands – Happyme22 (give) (tag)

Dick Wallen and W.J. Voit Memorial Trophy

• ... that UCLA Bruins end Dick Wallen won the 1957 Voit Trophy as the outstanding football player on the Pacific Coast?

Created by cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 04:23, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Dick Wallen – cbl62 (give) (tag)
•   W.J. Voit Memorial Trophy – cbl62 (give) (tag)

A Christian Ministry in the National Parks, Warren Ost,Christmas in August (Yellowstone)

• ... that a bellhop founded the largest and oldest Christian Ministry serving the national parks?

Created by I'm Spartacus! (talk). Self nom at 03:30, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   A Christian Ministry in the National Parks – I'm Spartacus! (give) (tag)
•   Warren Ost – I'm Spartacus! (give) (tag)
•   Christmas in August (Yellowstone) – I'm Spartacus! (give) (tag)

• Let's make this a threefer:

... that because of Warren Ost's ministry A Christian Ministry in the National Parks Yellowstone's annual Christmas in July celebration was moved to Christmas in August?---I'm Spartacus! ^{NO! I'm Spartacus!} 06:06, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually, this is a little more accurate:

... that Yellowstone's annual Christmas in July celebration may have become Christmas in August because of Warren Ost's ministry A Christian Ministry in the National Parks?---I'm Spartacus! ^{NO! I'm Spartacus!} 14:34, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

HMS Jason (1794)

• ... that despite a career lasting only four years, HMS Jason managed to capture (one engagement pictured) at least six French warships, including two that went on to become Royal Navy vessels?

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 23:56, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   HMS Jason (1794) – Benea (give) (tag)

• Length & date verified (article barely created on the 14th, moved here). All the hook facts are referenced to book source, accepted on good faith. This article looks familiar... I think I marked it as patrolled a couple of hours ago. ;) Jamie^☆S93 01:48, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Girangaon

• ... that a textile factory located in the mill village of Mumbai has now been converted to a "luxury mall"(pictured)?

Created by Belasd (talk). Self nom at 00:50, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Girangaon – Belasd (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:59, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Ernie Cooksey

• ... that Ernie Cooksey left a better-paid job fitting false ceilings to fulfil a lifelong ambition to become a professional footballer when he joined Oldham Athletic A.F.C. in August 2003?

5x expanded by Jimbo online (talk). Self nom at 00:22, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Ernie Cooksey – Jimbo online (give) (tag)

• 7147/2030 = 3.5x prose expansion. Please continue expanding. Shubinator (talk) 00:29, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Ordbogen.com

• ... that Ordbogen.com, the most popular online dictionary in Denmark, was relaunched after a predecessor was taken offline for over a year due to a lack of funding?

Created by Mike Halterman (talk). Self nom at 00:02, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Ordbogen.com – Mike Halterman (give) (tag)

• The news article the hook is sourced from is in Danish. I would be more than happy to quote the specific passage and translate it here. Mike H. Fierce! 00:09, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
• Length and date verified. Could you make sure the following sentence has a reference after it, as I read the source at the end of the paragraph and it did not seem to have all the information: "Originally funded by the Danish Ministry of Culture, the website was shut down in August 2005 due to a lack of funds."? This is per D1. —Mattisse (Talk) 01:06, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• It's the same source that talks about the reopening. I'll just cite it twice. Mike H. Fierce! 01:08, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
• That source says: Med mere end 110.000 forskellige opslagsord er netordbogen den største af sin slags i Danmark. Og også en af de mest populære. Med ca. 2 mio. årlige opslag lå ordbogen før lukningen på førstepladsen på TDC's daglige hitliste over mest brugte internetordbøger i Danmark. Den populære online-ordbog Den Danske Netordbog lukkede i august 2005 på grund af manglende bevillinger fra Kulturministeriet. I løbet af fem uger indsendte næsten 400 brugere støtteerklæringer.
• With more than 110,000 entries, the online dictionary is the largest of its kind in Denmark. It was also one of the most popular, before its closure two million people per year used the dictionary, and it ranked in first place on TDC's list of the most popular online dictionaries in Denmark. The popular online dictionary Den Danske Netordbog closed in August 2005 due to lack of funds from the Ministry of Culture. The last sentence I can't read well but I think it says in the next five weeks, 400 users complained and sent support. Or something like that. Mike H. Fierce! 01:13, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• OK, everything verified. Danish language sources accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 01:20, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

SM UB-14, Italian armored cruiser Amalfi, HMT Royal Edward, List of the largest ships hit by U-boats in World War I

• ... that the first three ships attacked by German U-boat SM UB-14—the Italian cruiser Amalfi and British troopships Royal Edward and Southland—were all among the largest ships hit by U-boats during the First World War?

Created by Bellhalla (talk). Self nom at 23:41, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   SM UB-14 – Bellhalla (give) (tag)
•   Italian armored cruiser Amalfi – Bellhalla (give) (tag)
•   HMT Royal Edward – Bellhalla (give) (tag)
•   List of the largest ships hit by U-boats in World War I – Bellhalla (give) (tag)

• SM UB-14 is an expansion; the other three are new — Bellhalla (talk) 23:53, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
  • The images are Amalfi (top) and Royal Edward (bottom). — Bellhalla (talk) 23:46, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

• The list has only 1158 characters of prose. Shubinator (talk) 00:31, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Oh, that's right. I'll expand it some, then. — Bellhalla (talk) 03:19, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
    • The list should be long enough now. :) — Bellhalla (talk) 04:25, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
      • (checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Yep, lengths & expansion, histories, references good. The Royal Edward image is clearer. Shubinator (talk) 17:33, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Cloudy catshark

• ... that the first successful artificial insemination of a cartilaginous fish was performed in the cloudy catshark (pictured)?

5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 23:30, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Cloudy catshark – Yzx (give) (tag)

• Length (5x expansion) and date verified. The article says first successful artificial insemination of a Elasmobranchii, which is a subspecies? —Mattisse (Talk) 23:54, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Elasmobranchii is the group of cartilaginous fishes that contains sharks and rays. I used "cartilaginous fish" instead of "elasmobranch" in the hook because it's a better-known term and it's still correct. -- Yzx (talk) 01:46, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• Not to argue, but the article says that Elasmobranchii is a subclass of cartilaginous fishes, so using one in place of the other would be overgeneralizing, if true. —Mattisse (Talk) 02:26, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

The two are not equivalent, no, but using "cartilaginous fishes" is still accurate, as the other subclass (Holocephali) have never been bred in captivity. Nevertheless, I've no strenuous objections to using "elasmobranch" in the hook. Or "shark", which would also be accurate and might be more accessible. -- Yzx (talk) 03:00, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Aulcie Perry

• ... that the name of basketball player Aulcie Perry has become a generic phrase for a tall person in Hebrew?

Created by Malik Shabazz (talk). Self nom at 23:26, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Aulcie Perry – Malik Shabazz (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. Source says "nickname" but I guess that is close enough to "a generic phrase". —Mattisse (Talk) 23:59, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

• Considering the example given in that source ("Wow... look at that Aulcie Perry!") and the other source (a child had grown into a real Aulcie Perry), I thought "generic phrase" was a better description than "nickname". See also the Hebrew Wikipedia article ("The expression 'Aulcie Perry' has become synonymous with a tall person"). — [[::User:Malik Shabazz|Malik Shabazz]] (talk · contribs) 18:56, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Prussia in the American Civil War

• ... that six Prussians served as generals for the Union army in the American Civil War?

Created by Bedford (talk). Self nom at 22:20, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Prussia in the American Civil War – Bedford (give) (tag)

• This article is an orphan, so I wonder about its usefulness as an article. —Mattisse (Talk) 02:28, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• No longer orphaned.--King Bedford I ^{Seek his grace} 03:43, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Sapria himalayana

• ... that Sapria himalayana, a holoparasitic flowering plant found in the Eastern Himalayas is completely dependent on its host plant for water, nutrients and products of photosynthesis?

Created by Prashanthns (talk). Self nom at 19:53, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Sapria himalayana – Prashanthns (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 01:09, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Bulldog class survey vessel

• ... that all four of the Royal Navy's Bulldog class survey vessels were built by Brooke Marine?

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 21:50, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Bulldog class survey vessel – Benea (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Book sources for hook accepted in good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 03:23, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Henry I. Harriman

• ... that before he became president of the United States Chamber of Commerce, Henry I. Harriman had received several patents for automatic looms?

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 20:47, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Henry I. Harriman – Tim1965 (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Would you add a reference to the end of the hook in the article, per D1? —Mattisse (Talk) 01:12, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• Done. - Tim1965 (talk) 16:25, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

St Mary Magdalene, Taunton

• ... that that the 163 feet (50 m) tower of St Mary Magdalene, Taunton was described by Simon Jenkins, as "the finest in England"?

Created by Rodw (talk). Self nom at 20:27, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   St Mary Magdalene, Taunton – Rodw (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Book source for hook accepted in good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 03:25, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Triumph Twenty One

• ... that the 1957 Triumph Twenty One (pictured) was the first of the Triumph unit construction twin cylinder motorcycles?

Created by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 18:15, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Triumph Twenty One – Thruxton (give) (tag)

Longfin crevalle jack

• ... that the longfin crevalle jack (Caranx fisheri, pictured) is similar enough to the crevalle jack (C. hippos) that it was described only in 2007?

Created by Kare Kare (talk). Nominated by Circeus (talk) at 15:36, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Longfin crevalle jack – Kare Kare (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Circeus (give)

Chausath Khamba

• ... that the 64 pillared monument called Chausath Khamba located in the Nizamuddin heritage area in Delhi was built in marble in 1623–24 as a tomb for Mirz Aziz Koka during Jehangir’s reign?

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 12:21, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Chausath Khamba – Nvvchar (give) (tag)

Planet of the Dead

• ... that "Planet of the Dead" was the first episode of Doctor Who to be filmed in high definition?

5x expanded by Sceptre (talk). Self nom at 07:15, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Planet of the Dead – Sceptre (give) (tag)

Alternate hooks (there's just so many!):

• ... that the Doctor Who episode "Planet of the Dead" was filmed in the desert of Dubai in the United Arab Emirates?
• ... that the Doctor Who episode "Planet of the Dead" was marketed as the 200th Doctor Who story?
• ... that "Planet of the Dead" was the first episode of Doctor Who to be written by two authors since its revival in 2005?
• ... that the damage inflicted to a bus bought for the Doctor Who episode "Planet of the Dead" was written into the storyline at the last minute?

Two notes: it isn't DYK ready yet, but should be by the time the deadline lapses on Thursday evening. I'm posting it here ready in case I forget; and I didn't write the current plot section, but I wrote most of the rest. Sceptre ^(talk) 07:15, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Royal Enfield WD/RE

• ... that the WW2 Royal Enfield WD/RE motorcycle was known as the Flying Flea as it was designed to be dropped by parachute from bomber aircraft?

Created by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 07:12, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Royal Enfield WD/RE – Thruxton (give) (tag)

Qapqal News

• ... that although there are hardly any native Manchu speakers left, enough people still speak the Xibe language (mutually intelligible with Manchu) to justify the publication of a Xibe newspaper (name pictured)?

Created by CaliforniaAliBaba (talk). Nominated by Vmenkov (talk) at 05:41, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Qapqal News – CaliforniaAliBaba (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Vmenkov (give)

• Added image just now (not the logo, just the name of the newspaper typeset in a free-software font). Note also that it's not a building, landscape, or disembodied head =) cab (talk) 15:39, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Great article, but the hook fact isn't really mentioned in the article (the article says nothing about how many Manchu speakers there are). I would suggest

• ALT1 ... that the Qapqal News is the only newspaper in the world published in Xibe, a Tungus language closely related to Manchu? rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs

I copied a (referenced) sentence on the disappearance of Manchu native speakers from the Manchu language article to Qapqal News. The original author is free to delete it, if he feels it does not belong; but I think it provides an interesting contrast between the fates of the Manchu language (which was so important in the past, but now practically dead), and its very "minor" Xibe offshot, still used for weekly news by its native speakers. Vmenkov (talk) 23:44, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

• ALT2 ... that the Qapqal News (name pictured), the world's only Xibe language newspaper, is read not just by the local Xibe people, but also enthusiasts of the nearly-extinct, closely related Manchu language? cab (talk) 01:49, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

P600 (neuroscience)

• ... that reading garden path sentences can trigger a spike in brain activity called the P600?

• Comment: New article, was formerly a redirect. The sources may not all be online (although I'm trying to add dois to as many as I can), but if you want to check I can e-mail pdfs.

Created by Rjanag (talk). Self nom at 04:39, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   P600 (neuroscience) – Rjanag (give) (tag)

List of middle schools in England

• ... that there were over 1400 middle schools in England in 1983, compared to fewer than 300 today?

5x expanded by Tafkam (talk). Self nom at 02:24, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   List of middle schools in England – Tafkam (give) (tag)

• The prose of the article has not been expanded this month. Technically it's contracted. Shubinator (talk) 03:43, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

William Preble Hall

• ... that William Preble Hall was a Medal of Honor awardee from the American Indian Wars and champion marksman from 1879 to 1892?

Created by Ahodges7 (talk). Self nom at 01:43, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   William Preble Hall – Ahodges7 (give) (tag)

Dihydrogen monoxide hoax

• ... that petitions to ban Dihydrogen monoxide ("DHMO") winded up to be a hoax for a science project entitled "How Gullible Are We?"

Created by Watcher (talk). Self nom at 01:08, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Dihydrogen monoxide hoax – Watcher (give) (tag)

• The article was created in 2004 and has not been significantly expanded recently. Shubinator (talk) 01:30, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Stem cell laws

• ... no federal law ever banned stem cell research in the United States, but only placed restrictions on funding and use, under Congress's power to spend?

Created/expanded by Bearian (talk). Self nom at 00:53, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Stem cell laws – User:Bearian (give) (tag)

Bernhard Fisch

• ... that German writer Bernhard Fisch, while being an East German student in 1970s Moscow, flew to Kaliningrad in an attempt to visit his former East Prussian home, and got arrested there?

Created by Matthead (talk). Self nom at 02:26, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Bernhard Fisch – Matthead (give) (tag)

Tully (film)

• ... that the original name of the 2000 film Tully was The Truth About Tully, but was changed to avoid confusion with Jonathan Demme's The Truth About Charlie?

Created by Omarcheeseboro (talk). Self nom at 02:28, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Tully (film) – Omarcheeseboro (give) (tag)

Articles created/expanded on April 13

Gareloi Volcano

• ... that the 1929 eruption of the Gareloi Volcano created a fissure running down the mountain's southern summit?

Created by Ceranthor (talk). Self nom at 23:53, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Gareloi Volcano – Ceranthor (give) (tag)

Midget professional wrestling

• ... that in the 1950s, midget professional wrestlers Sky Low Low and Little Beaver wrestled in a match for Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom and King Farouk of Egypt?

5x expanded by Nikki311 (talk). Self nom at 19:07, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Midget professional wrestling – Nikki311 (give) (tag)

USS Diachenko (APD-123)

• ... that the USS Diachenko (APD-123) served in World War II, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War?

Created by Tills (talk). Self nom at 03:01, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   USS Diachenko (APD-123) – Tills (give) (tag)

Terry Riley: Requiem for Adam

• ... that Terry Riley's Requiem for Adam, recorded by the Kronos Quartet, also contains a Riley improvisation inspired by Pandit Pran Nath's soft hand?

Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 22:56, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Terry Riley: Requiem for Adam – Drmies (give) (tag)

Geastrum saccatum

• ... that the characteristic star-shaped dehiscence of the fungus Geastrum saccatum is thought to be due to the buildup of crystalline calcium oxalate?

Created by RoryReloaded (talk). Nominated by sasata (talk) at 22:45, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Geastrum saccatum – RoryReloaded (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: sasata (give)

Theater St. Gallen

• ... that the Theater St. Gallen is considered to be the oldest professional theatre in Switzerland?

Created by ekem (talk). Self nom at 22:15, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Theater St. Gallen – ekem (give) (tag)

List of number-one albums of 2007 (Japan)

• ... that BoA is the second artist to have five consecutive number-one albums in Japan?

5x expanded by Moon-sunrise (talk). Self nom at 19:19, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   List of number-one albums of 2007 (Japan) – Moon-sunrise (give) (tag)

• ALT1:... that Kumi Koda is the first female artist in seven years to have her album stay atop of the Japanese music chart for four consecutive weeks?
• ALT2:... that Kazumasa Oda is the oldest artist to have a number-one album in Japan?
• comment:Hook sources are in Japanese.

Qedarite

• ... that the Qedarites, a prominent Arab tribal confederation between the 8th and 4th centuries BC, were named for Ishmael's second son Qedar?

Created by Tiamut (talk). Self nom at 15:06, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Qedarite – Tiamut (give) (tag)

La Cousine Bette

File:La Cousine Bette Huard Lisbeth Fischer.jpg

• ... that Honoré de Balzac based the title character of his 1846 novel La Cousine Bette (pictured) in part on his mother?

• Comment: This hook can be verified through this online source; it's in the 5th paragraph from the bottom of the page.

5x expanded by Scartol (talk). Self nom at 12:17, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   La Cousine Bette – Scartol (give) (tag)

• fine Victuallers (talk) 16:25, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Blanca Olmedo

• ... that Honduran romance novel Blanca Olmedo is a rare early female criticism of the establishment and corruption in Honduras?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 09:05, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Blanca Olmedo – Dr. Blofeld (give) (tag)

List of castles in Cheshire

• ... that about half of the castles in Cheshire (Chester Castle pictured) are along the Welsh border and were used to defend England against the Welsh?

• Comment: (moved from user space)

Created by Nev1 (talk). Self nom at 00:45, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   List of castles in Cheshire – Nev1 (give) (tag)

Charles H. Bigelow House

• ... that the Charles H. Bigelow House (pictured), in Findlay, Ohio, appeared on David Copperfield's The Magic of David Copperfield XVI: Unexplained Forces as the Barclay House?

Created by Pepsi2786 (talk). Self nom at 23:43, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Charles H. Bigelow House – Pepsi2786 (give) (tag)

Jacob S. Worm-Müller

• ... that historian Jacob S. Worm-Müller was a delegate to the San Francisco Conference that resulted in the foundation of the United Nations in 1945?

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 23:31, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Jacob S. Worm-Müller – Oceanh (give) (tag)

Mike Dalton (priest)

• ... that when Father Dalton was the first Catholic Priest to be appointed Member of the Order of the British Empire, he presented the King with a Catholic religious medal?

Created by I'm Spartacus! (talk). Self nom at 22:50, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Mike Dalton (priest) – I'm Spartacus! (give) (tag)

• The correct terminology is "appointed Member of the Order of the British Empire". David Underdown (talk) 12:59, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, fixed the wording.---I'm Spartacus! ^{NO! I'm Spartacus!} 15:20, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

National Bible Bee

• ... that the National Bible Bee offers the largest prize of any academic competition of its kind?

Created by Jchthys (talk). Self nom at 22:29, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   National Bible Bee – Jchthys (give) (tag)

• Is it just me or does this article almost seem too spammy/advertisy?---I'm Spartacus! ^{NO! I'm Spartacus!} 20:17, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Howard A. Chinn

• ... that Howard A. Chinn, while working as chief audio engineer at CBS in 1943, wrote a classified report about enemy radar?

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 19:52, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Howard A. Chinn – Binksternet (give) (tag)

Powhatan Henry Clarke

• ... that Powhatan Henry Clarke, (pictured) an officer with Buffalo Soldiers, received a Medal of Honor for rescuing a wounded soldier and died while rescuing another soldier?

Created by Rlevse (talk), 5x expanded by AdjustShift (talk). Self nom at 19:28, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Powhatan Henry Clarke – Rlevse (give) (tag)
•   Powhatan Henry Clarke – AdjustShift (give) (tag)

Dano-Swedish War (1658–1660)

• ... that Charles X Gustav of Sweden waged war with the intent to vanquish Denmark and raze Copenhagen in 1658?

5x expanded by Henrik (talk). Self nom at 19:01, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Dano-Swedish War (1658–1660) – Henrik (give) (tag)

National Industrial Recovery Act

• ... that the U.S. Supreme Court held Title I of the National Industrial Recovery Act unconstitutional on May 27, 1935, in Schechter Poultry Corp. v. United States, 295 U.S. 495?

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 16:48, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   National Industrial Recovery Act – Tim1965 (give) (tag)

Archidermapteron martynovi

• ... that even though only one complete fossil of the Archidermapteron martynovi was ever found, scientists have been able to use it to figure out the relative age of other species of earwig?

• ALT1:... that the extinct species of earwig Archidermapteron martynovi has been used to figure out the relative age of other species of earwig?
• ALT2:... that unlike most other insects, the extinct species of earwig Archidermapteron martynovi had cerci that were about 80% of the length of its body?
• Comment: ALT3:... that unlike most other insects, the extinct species of earwig Archidermapteron martynovi had cerci, or rear appendages, that were longer than its antennae?

5x expanded by The Earwig (talk). Self nom at 15:08, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Archidermapteron martynovi – The Earwig (give) (tag)

Walking on a Thin Line (song) (history)

• ... that the Huey Lewis and the News song "Walking on a Thin Line" is about Vietnam War soldiers and veterans?

5x expanded by CarpetCrawler (talk). Self nom at 12:59, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Walking on a Thin Line (song) – CarpetCrawler (give) (tag)

• ALT ... that ESPN personality Chris Berman has been known to appear at Huey Lewis and the News concerts to join them in singing their hit song "Walking on a Thin Line"? CarpetCrawler^{message me} 13:01, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

• 2394/543 = 4.4x prose expansion. Shubinator (talk) 16:33, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

OK, how about now? :) CarpetCrawler^{message me} 18:45, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Yep, good now :) Length, history good. Reference good for ALT, AGF on subscriber references for the original hook. Shubinator (talk) 00:43, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Jacob Liv Borch Sverdrup (history)

• ... that Jacob Liv Borch Sverdrup established the first agricultural school in Scandinavia?

Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 11:18, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Jacob Liv Borch Sverdrup – Punkmorten (give) (tag)

Poder Mexica (history)

• ... that the professional wrestling stable Poder Mexica was formed after two of the founding members, Sangre Azteca and Dragón Rojo, Jr., wrestled to a draw?

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self nom at 09:46, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Poder Mexica – MPJ-DK (give) (tag)

Gadsden State Community College (history)

• ... that in 1997 Gadsden State Community College was designated a historically black college by the U.S. Department of Education?

Created by MBisanz (talk). Self nom at 05:27, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Gadsden State Community College – MBisanz (give) (tag)

Tocowa, Mississippi (history)

• ... that Tocowa, Mississippi, is where former Mississippi governor Ronnie Musgrove was born and raised and is now a ghost town?

Created by Allstarecho (talk). Self nom at 04:47, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Tocowa, Mississippi – Allstarecho (give) (tag)

• ALT1:... that Tocowa, Mississippi, was originally called Ptocowa, which in the Chickasaw and Choctaw language means "healing waters"?
• ALT2:... that Tocowa, Mississippi, was home to a natural spring where Indians gathered to benefit from its alleged mysterious healing powers in the 1700s and 1800s?

Polish 1st Light Cavalry Regiment of the Imperial Guard (history)

• ... that light-cavalrymen of the Polish 1st Light Cavalry Regiment of the Imperial Guard saved Napoleon's life at least three times?

Created by Belissarius (talk). Self nom at 04:05, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Polish 1st Light Cavalry Regiment of the Imperial Guard – Belissarius (give) (tag)

Drammen FK (history)

• ... that the football club Drammen FK makes its debut in the 2009 season, aiming to become the best club in Drammen after Strømsgodset IF?

Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 12:47, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Drammen FK – Punkmorten (give) (tag)

Będzin Ghetto

• ... that an uprising led by local chapter of the Jewish Combat Organization occurred in the Będzin Ghetto during its final liquidation in early August 1943?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 23:58, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Będzin Ghetto – Piotrus (give) (tag)

Dillard Chandler

• ... that in 1969 Bob Dylan was familiar with folk singer Dillard Chandler, despite the fact that Chandler's album Old Love Songs & Ballads had sold only fifty copies at the time?

Created by Omarcheeseboro (talk). Self nom at 02:47, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Dillard Chandler – Omarcheeseboro (give) (tag)

Articles created/expanded on April 12

Susan Boyle

• ... that Britain's Got Talent series 3 hopeful Susan Boyle's performance of "I Dreamed a Dream" from Les Misérables has gotten her worldwide attention?

Created by Wslack (talk). Nominated by ViperSnake151 (talk) at 14:03, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Susan Boyle – Wslack (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: ViperSnake151 (give)

• Currently at AfD. Let us know when it's closed. Shubinator (talk) 17:16, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• "gotten" is a US usage and should probably not be used in relation to British subject matter. How about: "has received worldwide attention" - actually now that I think about it "received" sounds better in US and Brit English. – ukexpat (talk) 21:00, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Quiet Exit

• ... that Elvira Nikolaisen's debut album, Quiet Exit, was released on the same day as Marit Larsen's debut album, Under the Surface?

Created by decltype (talk). Self nom at 18:31, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Quiet Exit – decltype (give) (tag)

• ALT1 ... that the simultaneous release of Elvira Nikolaisen's Quiet Exit and Marit Larsen's Under the Surface was described by one journalist as the peak of a "girl war" in Norwegian music?

Alexander Hamilton Bowman

• ... that Alexander Hamilton Bowman helped build Fort Sumter and then served as the superintendent at West Point during the American Civil War?

Created by BusterD (talk). Nominated by Aboutmovies (talk) at 08:14, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Alexander Hamilton Bowman – BusterD (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Aboutmovies (give)

• Length and date ok. Offline hook source AGF'ed. decltype (talk) 18:50, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Tom Maentz

• ... that ends Tom Maentz and Ron Kramer, known as the "touchdown twins," were the first University of Michigan athletes to appear on the cover of Sports Illustrated?

Created by cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:26, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Tom Maentz – cbl62 (give) (tag)

La Merced Cloister

• ... that La Merced Cloister, a monastery complex in Mexico City, is known for its Baroque and Moorish architectural elements?

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Nominated by Another Believer (talk) at 00:15, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   La Merced Cloister – Thelmadatter (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Another Believer (give)

KODL

• ... that three-term member of the Oregon House of Representatives Paul E. Walden worked at radio station KODL for 27 years?

Created by Dravecky (talk). Nominated by Another Believer (talk) at 00:06, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   KODL – Dravecky (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Another Believer (give)

• ALT1 ... that Paul E. Walden worked at radio station KODL for 27 years before serving three terms as a member of the Oregon House of Representatives? (slight re-wording) - Dravecky (talk) 09:05, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

John Horsey (died 1546), John Horsey (died 1564)

• ... that Sir John Horsey and his son, also called Sir John Horsey, are both buried in a tomb in the Wykeham Chapel of Sherborne Abbey? Created by User:Alfietucker, cleaned, expanded slightly and nominated by me. Ironholds (talk) 22:12, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   John Horsey II – Alfietucker (give) (tag)
•   John Horsey III – Alfietucker (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Ironholds (give)
•   Nom credit: Ironholds (give)

• Looks good. Shimgray | talk | 10:43, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

• I've modified the hook to reflect the renaming of the articles. Shimgray | talk | 19:43, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Johanne Dybwad (actor)

• ... that Johanne Dybwad´s acting career spanned sixty years, from 1887 to 1947?

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 14:55, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Johanne Dybwad (actor) – Oceanh (give) (tag)

• Length and date okay. The citations for first and last performance are offline, but another source also verifies the hook. decltype (talk) 18:40, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Kampong Chhnang District (history)

File:KampongChhnang2.jpg

• ... that the US Air Force, US Army, and US Marine Corps were operating in Kampong Chhnang District, Cambodia (pictured), in 2008?

5x expanded by Paxse (talk). Self nom at 08:09, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Kampong Chhnang District – Paxse (give) (tag)

• 5x expansion confirmed, hook source confirmed. I must admit though, that I found the hook slightly "tabloid", suggesting some sort of covert operation. It's probably just me. decltype (talk) 18:47, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Lê Chiêu Thống (history)

• ... that Lê Chiêu Thống was the last king of the Vietnamese Le Dynasty?

• ALT1:... that Lê Chiêu Thống, last king of the Vietnamese Le Dynasty, died in China?

Created by Amore Mio (talk). Self nom at 04:47, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Lê Chiêu Thống – Amore Mio (give) (tag)

Essex derby (history)

• ... that during an Essex derby football match in November 2005, there were three dismissals in the second-half?

Created by Jimbo online (talk). Self nom at 02:39, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Essex derby – Jimbo online (give) (tag)

1979 Easter flood (history)

• ... that the 1979 Easter flood was among the most costly and devastating ever to occur in Mississippi, with over $1.4 billion in damages?

Created by Allstarecho (talk). Self nom at 02:19, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   1979 Easter flood – Allstarecho (give) (tag)

Jo Riley (history)

• ... that Dr. Jo Riley, a British writer and stage actor, was one of the first foreign students of Chinese theatre at the Beijing Central Academy of Drama (an actor pictured) in the early 1980s?

• ALT1:... that Dr. Jo Riley explored Chinese exorcism and ancient animation rites at the tomb, to better document actor performance (example pictured) in Chinese theatre?
• ALT2:... that Dr. Jo Riley wrote a book on Chinese theatre acting after learning Mandarin Chinese, travelling in China, and studying Chinese theatre (example pictured) at the Beijing Central Academy of Drama?
• Comment: Detail of inline sourcing:

• Hook sourced from her self-bio in the "Teacher's Information Pack" (Word document) for the 2008 Theatre Arts Programmes Symposium.
• Alt 1 sourced from the publisher's description for her book as archived at the Library of Congress.
• Alt 2 sourced from a book review in Asian Theatre Journal such as from JSTOR 1124450, Google Scholar, etc.

Other usable Chinese opera pics from Commons:
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5x expanded by The Little Blue Frog (talk). Self nom at 23:51, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Jo Riley – The Little Blue Frog (give) (tag)

Robert Lee Howze (history)

• ... that Major General Robert Lee Howze (pictured) once threatened to dismiss an entire class from the United States Military Academy and he also presided over the court-martial of Billy Mitchell?

Created by Rlevse (talk). Self nom at 23:36, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Robert Lee Howze – Rlevse (give) (tag)

• Hook is 250 characters when a maximum of 200 is allowed, per DKY Rules. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:08, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
  • try it now, my counter says under 200 now. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:05, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

• It's fine. Length, date and sources for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 01:10, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

List of Silver Slugger Award winners at designated hitter (history)

• ... that Paul Molitor, Edgar Martinez and David Ortiz are tied for the most Silver Slugger Awards among designated hitters?

Created by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 22:42, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   List of Silver Slugger Award winners at designated hitter – Killervogel5 (give) (tag)

Funtensee (history)

• ... that Germany's lowest recorded temperature of −45.9°C (−50.6°F) was recorded at the Funtensee?

5x expanded by Agathoclea (talk). Self nom at 21:39, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Funtensee – Agathoclea (give) (tag)

• It is only 1436 bytes of readable prose at the moment, could you expand it just a little more? NuclearWarfare _(Talk) 23:18, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

• Added a little bit more. Hope that makes the grade. I was hoping to find a WP:RS source for the additional (not mentioned in the article) fact that it had negative temperature at the height of the 2006 heatwave but could not trace that (yet). 08:16, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Palamau Tiger Reserve (history)

• ... that only 0.5 to 1.5 tigers every 100 sq km live in Palamau Tiger Reserve located in Jharkhand, India?

5x expanded by Like I Care (talk). Self nom at 21:31, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Palamau Tiger Reserve – Like I Care (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:12, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Donald Bogle (history)

• ... that Donald Bogle's biography of Dorothy Dandridge led to a competition between Whitney Houston and Halle Berry to produce a biopic about the actress's life?

• ALT1:... that film historian Donald Bogle's interest in film started when he wondered what actress Hattie McDaniel, who played Mammy in Gone with the Wind, thought of the American Civil War?
• ALT1:... that film historian Donald Bogle has identified six basic stereotypical film roles available to African-American actors and actresses: toms, coons, mulattoes, mammies, bucks, and sidekicks?

Created by Malik Shabazz (talk). Self nom at 20:29, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Donald Bogle – Malik Shabazz (give) (tag)

• Length, date and ALT1 and ALT1 verified by sources. (Is "race" a good word choice in the original hook?) —Mattisse (Talk) 00:24, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

• Good point. I've rewritten the first hook. — [[::User:Malik Shabazz|Malik Shabazz]] (talk · contribs) 04:54, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Come-outer (history)

• ... that several abolitionist Come-outers in Barnstable, Massachusetts, were put on trial in 1851, and called "poor deluded beings" in The Barnstable Patriot?

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 19:12, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Come-outer – Binksternet (give) (tag)

Axel Otto Normann (history)

• ... that Axel Otto Normann, a theatre critic and director of the National Theatre in Norway, did not hold a degree of higher education?

Created by Oceanh (talk), Punkmorten (talk). Nominated by Punkmorten (talk) at 16:26, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Axel Otto Normann – Oceanh (give) (tag)
•   Axel Otto Normann – Punkmorten (give) (tag)

• Length and creation date verified, Norwegian references accepted on good faith. It might just be that I like theatre, but that's an interesting hook to me. :) Jamie^☆S93 20:31, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Rengali Dam (history)

• ... that scientists believe construction of the Rengali Dam and barrier in Orissa, India negatively impacts plant species in the Bhitarkanika Mangroves?

Created by Docku (talk). Self nom at 14:59, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Rengali Dam – Docku (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:20, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Nine exterminations (history)

• ... that the punishment for treason in Ancient China is the extermination of one's entire family? OR ... that the most serious punishment for a capital offense in Ancient China involves the death sentence of all one's relatives?

Created/expanded by Benlisquare (talk). Self nom at 14:17, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Nine exterminations – Benlisquare (give) (tag)

• The hook needs to be phrased in the past tense, not the present tense. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 19:09, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

• ... that the punishment for treason in Ancient China was the extermination of one's entire family? OR ... that the most serious punishment for a capital offense in Ancient China involved the death sentence of all one's relatives? -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email guestbook complaints 00:46, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

If we go with hook #2, better to have "...sentence for all..." Nyttend (talk) 12:19, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Niels Christian Ditleff (history)

• ... that Niels Christian Ditleff initiated the White Buses rescue operation, recruiting Folke Bernadotte to negotiate with Heinrich Himmler?

Created by Leifern (talk). Self nom at 14:05, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Niels Christian Ditleff – Leifern (give) (tag)

• The entire "Biography" section is unsourced. Henrich Himmler is not mentioned in the article. Also, Norsk biografisk leksikon does not confirm that he was an ambassador. Punkmorten (talk) 16:39, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

• Per Caplex [1], "sendemann" refers to either a "minister" or "ambassador," i.e., a diplomatic representative with ministerial rank. It should be clear from the article that Ditleff had no dealings with Himmler, but that Bernadotte most certainly did. I'll leave it to the editors of the Bernadotte article to substantiate that point, if it's necessary. In any event, I added one of many possible sources for the Himmler point. --Leifern (talk) 19:57, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

HMAS Onslow (history)

The Australian submarine HMAS Onslow underway during the RIMPAC 98 naval exercise

• ... that Australian submarine HMAS Onslow was the first conventionally-powered submarine to be fitted with guided anti-ship missiles?

• ALT1:... that Australian submarine HMAS Onslow sank the United States supercarrier Carl Vinson during wargames?
• ALT2:... that in 1972, a sailor disobeying orders caused Australian submarine HMAS Onslow to crash dive to almost double her safe operating depth?

5x expanded by saberwyn (talk). Self nom at 10:08, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   HMAS Onslow – saberwyn (give) (tag)

Willie Groves (history)

• ... that Willie Groves was the first footballer to be transferred for £100 or more?

Created by Jmorrison230582 (talk). Self nom at 09:43, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Willie Groves – Jmorrison230582 (give) (tag)

• Looks good. Shimgray | talk | 15:13, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Rajasaurus (history)

• ... that fossils of 65 MA found in Narmada Valley in India assembled by paleontologists from USA and India announced in 2003, the discovery of the new species of dinosaur called Rajasaurus?

• Comment: Expanded by more than five times

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 08:55, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Rajasaurus – Nvvchar (give) (tag)

• I suggest the alternate hook: ... that in 2003, paleontologists from the U.S. and India announced the discovery of fossils from a new genus of dinosaur called Rajasaurus, which lived roughly 65 million years ago in the Narmada Valley of India? (This version avoids the confusion between a species and a genus) Firsfron of Ronchester 07:41, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

• I fully agree with the above alternate Hook and I also request that User:Firsfron may also be included as a contributor to the article since he has very auhtoritatively and effectively edited the article.--Nvvchar (talk) 08:27, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

• Length and history good. The ALT is an improvement, but is longer than necessary. I would suggest something like this:
• ALT2 ... that fossils of the dinosaur Rajasaurus, were discovered in the 1980s but not identified as a new genus until 2003?
• That being said, there are spots where the wording in the article is uncomfortably close to the wording in the source. whose fossilised bones were first discovered in the Narmada River valley of Gujarat, India, by Suresh Srivastava of the Geological Survey of India (GSI) during 1982–1984 and from the Lameta Formation (Cretaceous, Maastrichtian) near Jabalpur, Madhya Pradesh, in Central India, for example, are both almost word-for-word from this source. I think we need to check the wording more carefully before we can pass this. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 20:05, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks for the verification of the length and history. I have addressed your concerns on the spots referred above and I have made changes in the sentences of the relevant sections. I hope it is OK now. The Alt Hook suggested by you is fine with me.Thanks--Nvvchar (talk) 11:51, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Bevill State Community College (history)

• ... that the present-day Bevill State Community College is the result of the merger of four institutions?

Created/expanded by MBisanz (talk). Self nom at 08:46, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Bevill State Community College – MBisanz (give) (tag)

Harvey Lowe (history)

• ... that Canadian Harvey Lowe won the first World Yo-Yo Contest in 1932 at age 13?

Created by WWGB (talk). Self nom at 08:44, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Harvey Lowe – WWGB (give) (tag)

• Looks good. Shimgray | talk | 15:14, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Central Alabama Community College (history)

• ... that both campuses of Central Alabama Community College were dedicated in 1966 by then-Governor George Corley Wallace?

Created/expanded by MBisanz (talk). Self nom at 05:56, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Central Alabama Community College – MBisanz (give) (tag)

That's Just the Way It Is (history)

• ... that the Phil Collins song, "That's Just the Way It Is", was written about the conflict in Northern Ireland called "The Troubles"?

5x expanded by CarpetCrawler (talk). Self nom at 05:50, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   That's Just the Way It Is – CarpetCrawler (give) (tag)

• Length, date, 5x expansion, and hook source verified. decltype (talk) 20:59, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Darryl Scott

• ... that baseball pitcher Darryl Scott was demoted to the minor leagues in 1993 while at a hospital with his wife and newborn son? (new creation, self-nom). Wizardman 04:11, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Darryl Scott – Wizardman (give) (tag)

Irena's Vow (history)

• ... that in the Broadway play Irena's Vow, the Jewish-American actress Tovah Feldshuh stars as the Polish heroine Irena Gut, and the Polish actress Maja Wampuszyc plays a Jewish woman?

Created by Nihil novi (talk). Self nom at 02:47, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Irena's Vow – Nihil novi (give) (tag)

• The term "Jewess" is sometimes considered offensive. [2] I would recommend rephrasing. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 19:14, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

• Done. No offense intended. Thanks. Nihil novi (talk) 21:13, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Lou Marson (history)

• ... that Lou Marson hit his first major league home run on the final day of the Philadelphia Phillies’ World Series-winning 2008 season?

5x expanded by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 01:11, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Lou Marson – Killervogel5 (give) (tag)

• Everything checks out. Very impressive article considering his career just started. Wizardman 16:52, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks, I try. If only I could get to a game and take a picture... KV5 (Talk • Phils) 19:03, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Merrill Lock No. 6 (history)

• ... that the Merrill Lock No. 6 (pictured), located on the Ohio River in Pennsylvania, was converted from a lock complex to a restaurant?

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 02:34, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Merrill Lock No. 6 – Nyttend (give) (tag)

• Currently tagged as a stub by the creator. Shubinator (talk) 02:37, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

As I told Mattisse, who removed the stub tag: I added the stub tag early in the writing process and forgot to remove it after I'd expanded the text significantly. Nyttend (talk) 03:48, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Update: I forgot to include my picture in the nomination. Nyttend (talk) 03:54, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 11:49, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Osoaviakhim-1 (history)

• ... that Soviet high-altitude balloon Osoaviakhim-1 set a flight altitude record during its maiden flight but crashed during the descent?

Created/expanded by NVO (talk). Nominated by Alex Bakharev (talk) at 04:18, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Osoaviakhim-1 – NVO (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Alex Bakharev (give)

• Length, date and references for hook verified. --Russavia ^Dialogue 00:01, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

I'd suggest "... that in 1934, the Soviet high-altitude balloon Osoaviakhim-1 set a flight altitude record during its maiden flight but crashed during the descent?" --Russavia ^Dialogue 00:01, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 11

Thomas Christian Wyller

• ... that Thomas Christian Wyller is regarded as one of the founders of political science as an academic dicipline in Norway?

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 23:14, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Thomas Christian Wyller – Oceanh (give) (tag)

The Cohens and Kellys

• ... that the 1926 film The Cohens and Kellys is best known today for its involvement in the precedential copyright case Nichols v. Universal Pictures Corporation?

Created by TJRC (talk). Self nom at 22:37, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   The Cohens and Kellys – TJRC (give) (tag)

• 879 characters of prose and tagged as a stub. Please expand to at least 1500 prose characters. Shubinator (talk) 02:58, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Westerlies

• ... that the westerlies steer warm water currents, such as the Gulf Stream, from west to east across the oceans of Earth?

5x expanded by thegreatdr (talk). Self nom at 16:09, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Westerlies – thegreatdr (give) (tag)

Nissanka Malla of Sri Lanka

• ... that King Nissanka Malla of Sri Lanka carried out a major refurbishment of the Dambulla cave temple, in which 50 Buddha statues and the interior of the temple were gilded?

• Comment: An image of a statue of the king is available if needed here. Or there are images of the temple and Buddha statues at commons:category:Dambulla.

Created by Chamal_N (talk). Self nom at 03:03, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Nissanka Malla of Sri Lanka – Chamal_N (give) (tag)

The Boxmasters

• ... that actor Billy Bob Thornton provides drums and vocals for the country rock band The Boxmasters?

Created by Chubbles, The Squicks (talk). Nominated by Another Believer (talk) at 00:36, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   The Boxmasters – Chubbles, The Squicks (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Another Believer (give)

• All good. decltype (talk) 20:48, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Mozart and smallpox

• ... that composer Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart learned card tricks and fencing while recovering from smallpox?

Created by Opus33 (talk). Nominated by Another Believer (talk) at 00:32, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Mozart and smallpox – Opus33 (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Another Believer (give)

Yannoulis Chalepas

• ... that, due to a mental illness, Yannoulis Chalepas, a Greek sculptor, remained in complete creative inactivity for almost fifteen years (1888–1902), and he did not fully return to his art until 1918?

Created by Lapost (talk). Nominated by Yannismarou (talk) at 00:09, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Yannoulis Chalepas – Lapost (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Yannismarou (give)

• Please reword the hook, it doesn't seem to check out with footnote 1. As I interpret the source, Chapelas didn't stop working altogether in 1878, but in 1888, when he was admitted to the Mental Hospital of Corfu. I think he did some art from 1902 until his mother's death (1916), but she was disapproving of this and was destroying his works. Consider removing "prominent" because it's a bit of a peacock term. Otherwise length and date check out. Todor→Bozhinov 20:22, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

• Well, ok. He did some art, but these were indeed 40 years in the twilight. Better?--Yannismarou (talk) 21:34, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

• That's good enough for me. We simply have to make sure we've got the facts in our hooks straight, 'is all. Gotta go pick bananas now, be seeing ya :) Todor→Bozhinov 16:38, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Moose A. Moose

• ... that Moose A. Moose is a fictional cartoon moose who hosts TV shows on television station Noggin, and acts as an "on-air teacher" embodying the concept of "connected learning"?

Created by kelapstick (talk), Drmies (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 16:34, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Moose A. Moose – Kelapstick (give) (tag)
•   Moose A. Moose – Drmies (give) (tag)

• Borderline but does check out in length. Date and refs all fine. I came up with "did you know that Moose A. Moose is a moose?" as a joke hook, if someone else likes it it might spice up the Main Page that way :) Todor→Bozhinov 20:12, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

• Well, mooses are not known for their sense of humor--especially not Canadian mooses. ;) I can't speak for Kelapstick, the instigator of all this moosery, but any hook is really fine with me, given that "connected learning" is not yet a wikified concept... Drmies (talk) 22:51, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

• I for one think mooses are remarkably ludicrous :) Best, Todor→Bozhinov 10:20, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• For the record, I think the plural should be "meese," preferably spelled "mies." That would be ludicrous, to me anyway. And then let em get doctorates, and become Drmies! Drmies (talk) 14:34, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• I almost met a moose with my car once, it was not much fun, and he didn't have a sense of humour when I tried to drive around him...I do like the "Moose A. Moose is a Moose", hook, could potentially contain the least number of different words in DYK history (4 outside the stock entry).--kelapstick (talk) 15:41, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• OK, I'm easily swayed. ;) Drmies (talk) 17:04, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• That's the spirit. Let's do it for the lulz, I have a banana for a userpage! :) Todor→Bozhinov 18:18, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

List of Cleveland Indians Opening Day starting pitchers (history)

• ... that brothers Jim Perry and Gaylord Perry each made Opening Day starts for the Major League Baseball Cleveland Indians?

Created by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 21:55, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   List of Cleveland Indians Opening Day starting pitchers – Rlendog (give) (tag)

• Length, date and references for hook verified. GaryColemanFan (talk) 17:12, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Buldir Volcano (history)

• ... that the discovery of a population of Aleutian Cackling Geese on Buldir Volcano in the Aleutian Islands prevented their extinction?

Created by Ceranthor (talk). Self nom at 18:15, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Buldir Volcano – Ceranthor (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 01:31, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

List of Grade I listed buildings in Brighton and Hove (history)

• ... that the 24 buildings with Grade I listed status in Brighton and Hove, England, include the ruined West Pier (pictured)—damaged by a succession of fires and storms?

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 11:56, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   List of Grade I listed buildings in Brighton and Hove – Hassocks5489 (give) (tag)

Checks out, offline reference for the fires part accepted in good faith. Great work, consider WP:FLC and do notify me so I can support :) Todor→Bozhinov 20:07, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Vladimir Stoychev (history)

• ... that besides being in command of the Bulgarian First Army during World War II, Vladimir Stoychev was also an Olympic equestrian and Bulgarian Olympic Committee chairman?

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 09:59, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Vladimir Stoychev – TodorBozhinov (give) (tag)

Radostin Stoychev (history)

• ... that Bulgarian volleyball coach Radostin Stoychev won the Italian Volleyball League and the CEV Champions League in his debut seasons?

• Comment: I'd appreciate it if someone can help with the wording of the hook, I think it can be done better :)

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 09:56, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Radostin Stoychev – TodorBozhinov (give) (tag)

Murder of Rie Isogai (history)

• ... that the murder of Rie Isogai was the first crime in recent years in Japan for which multiple convicts were sentenced to death?

Created by umebo (talk). Nominated by Fg2 (talk) at 09:39, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Murder of Rie Isogai – umebo (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Fg2 (give)

• Good. NuclearWarfare _(Talk) 23:24, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

• Thank you. I propose "crime" be replaced with "single slaying" or a similar word that means "murder case in which only one person was killed", because Japanese courts often hand down death sentences to multiple convicts who killed more than one person (e.g. Aum Shinrikyo members who committed a mass murder). What's rare here is that multiple convicts who killed one person are sentenced to death, as The Japan Times say.[3]--Umebo (talk) 08:48, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

• Fine by me Fg2 (talk) 10:02, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

George Whitaker (Oregon educator) (history)

• ... that George Whitaker (pictured), president of Willamette University, banned talking between boys and girls at the Oregon school?

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 06:47, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   George Whitaker (Oregon educator) – Aboutmovies (give) (tag)

• Ha! I'd phrase it as "men and women", though. Shimgray | talk | 15:18, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

The Michael Scott Paper Company

• ... that Ryan watches the YouTube cult video commercial Flea Market Montgomery during a scene in "The Michael Scott Paper Company" episode in The Office?

5x expanded by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 06:38, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   The Michael Scott Paper Company – Hunter Kahn (give) (tag)

• Hook is not cited. Wizardman 13:55, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
  • I believe it is cited, by the Alan Sepinwall/Star-Ledger source. There was a citation tag, but I just moved it to the very end of that sentce to avoid confusion. Let me know if that's sufficient? (The NBC.com The Office site has it on right now too, but since that main page will change in a week or two, I didn't want to site it. But I suppose I could...) — Hunter Kahn _(contribs) 16:36, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Pilot (Parks and Recreation) (history)

• ... that a focus group report heavily critical of the "Pilot" episode of the NBC show Parks and Recreation was leaked to the media one month before the show aired?

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 06:26, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Pilot (Parks and Recreation) – Hunter Kahn (give) (tag)

• Good. NuclearWarfare _(Talk) 23:27, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Dream Team (The Office) (history)

• ... that "Dream Team", and episode of The Office, marked the return of writer and actor B.J. Novak, who departed to film his role in the upcoming Quentin Tarantino film Inglourious Basterds?

5x expanded by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 06:38, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Dream Team (The Office) – Hunter Kahn (give) (tag)

Torolf Prytz (history)

• ... that Torolf Prytz, a Norwegian architect turned goldsmith, also served as Minister of Industrial Provisioning for the Liberal Party?

5x expanded by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 00:06, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Torolf Prytz – Punkmorten (give) (tag)

• Norwegian sources accepted in good faith. Are you sure there are no English ones? NuclearWarfare _(Talk) 23:37, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

List of Silver Slugger Award winners at outfield (history)

• ... that pairs of teammates have won Silver Slugger Awards in the outfield eight times since 1980?

Created by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 21:57, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

•   List of Silver Slugger Award winners at outfield – Killervogel5 (give) (tag)

Giovio Series (history)

• ... that Paolo Giovio bribed illustrious men of his day to acquire portraits for the collection now known as the Giovio Series (example portrait pictured)?

Created by Kafka Liz (talk). Self nom at 21:03, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Giovio Series – Kafka Liz (give) (tag)

Edith Prickley (history)

• ... that the SCTV character of Edith Prickley has appeared numerous times on Sesame Street, including as an animated character?

Created/expanded by Zanimum (talk). Self nom at 20:17, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Edith Prickley – Zanimum (give) (tag)

Stacy Warner (history)

• ... that the House character Stacy Warner (portrayer Sela Ward pictured) was originally set to appear in only two episodes of the show, but hired for seven more due to Ward's chemistry with the show's lead actor Hugh Laurie?

• Comment: ALT1:... that actress Sela Ward (pictured) was not initially interested on playing Stacy Warner on FOX's House, but changed her mind after watching tapes of the show?

Created/expanded by Music2611 (talk). Self nom at 17:33, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Stacy Warner – Music2611 (give) (tag)

• Though only a 3x revision from this version, it has been a redirect for over a year, and so it is fine now. NuclearWarfare _(Talk) 23:33, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Scott Gaylord (history)

• ... that American race car driver Scott Gaylord (pictured) asked his future wife out for their first date while competing against her in a race?

Created by Royalbroil (talk). Self nom at 11:52, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Scott Gaylord – Royalbroil (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:10, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Holden Apollo (history)

1989–1991 Holden JK Apollo SLX sedan

• ... that Toyota Camrys were sold in Australia as the Holden Apollo (pictured) between 1989 and 1997 as a part of the Australian Government's Button car plan?

5x expanded by OSX (talk). Self nom at 09:37, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Holden Apollo – OSX (give) (tag)

• Not quite a 5x expansion. December 29 version is 1598 characters. 1598 x 5 = 7980 (compared to current size of 7613. Also, I think your footnotes quote too much copyrighted material e.g. from Bebbington (1998). —Mattisse (Talk) 22:23, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

I did not specify the 5x expansion, the template added it automatically, although my recent addition should just about make it 5x. As for the quotations, this is the only "decent" information available, and the book is well out of print and hard to come by. Having the original quotes are only there to help out user's wanting to make changes without the original book on hand. It also proves that I have omitted all OR, as the original is quoted. OSX (talk • contributions) 10:30, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

But the book is still under copyright, is it not? (Please see Wikipedia:Non-free content and Fair use.) —Mattisse (Talk) 14:41, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Well what is the purpose of having the "quote" field if quoting content is a copyright violation? Nothing has been plagiarized, everything has been attributed back to its original source and all original content is clearly marked by quotation. If you want, you can contact the author (User:Terrybebb) at his talk page. 06:59, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

De Mí Enamórate (history)

• ... that the song "De Mí Enamórate" performed by Mexican singer Daniela Romo became the first song to spent 14 consecutive weeks at number-one in the Billboard Hot Latin Tracks chart?

Created by Jaespinoza (talk). Self nom at 05:47, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

•   De Mí Enamórate – Jaespinoza (give) (tag)

• ALT1:... that Daniela Romo, Ana Gabriel, Yuri and Shakira are the only female performers to spent fourteen weeks or more at number-one in the Billboard Hot Latin Tracks chart?

• ALT2:... that three songs written by Mexican singer-songwriter Juan Gabriel peaked at number-one in the Billboard Hot Latin Tracks chart in 1986?

United States Academic Decathlon Topics (history)

• ... that the United States Academic Decathlon has focused an entire year's topic on the American Civil War?

Created/expanded by NuclearWarfare (talk), Yohhans (talk). Nominated by NuclearWarfare (talk) at 01:32, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

•   United States Academic Decathlon Topics – NuclearWarfare (give) (tag)
•   United States Academic Decathlon Topics – Yohhans (give) (tag)

• ALT1 "... that the United States Academic Decathlon's current topic is Latin America with a focus on Mexico?" NuclearWarfare _(Talk) 23:42, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Lake Manzala (history)

• ... that Lake Manzala (pictured) had to be expanded to allow the building of the Suez Canal, as it was previously less than 5 feet (1.5 m) deep?

5x expanded by Synergy (talk), Durova (talk). Nominated by NuclearWarfare (talk) at 01:01, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Lake Manzala – Synergy (give) (tag)
•   Lake Manzala – Durova (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: NuclearWarfare (give)

• Length (5x expansion) and date verified. However, I don't see the hook in the article. Could you put it in and reference it? —Mattisse (Talk) 22:30, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

• I thought that the second sentence in Geography would cover it. NuclearWarfare _(Talk) 23:38, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

• Why not use that sentence then? The hook should be a fact from the article, per DYK Rules. The reader should not be expected to have to translate numbers/units, just as they shouldn't be expected to perform mathmatical functions to figure out the hook. You should use {{convert}} anyway. We are trying to be nice to readers. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:49, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

• I have adapted the sentence to reflect the hook more effectively. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NuclearWarfare (talk • contribs)

• Revised hook is verified by sources. —Mattisse (Talk) 21:20, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on April 10

Edda. Scandinavian Journal of Literary Research, Edvard Beyer

• ... that Edvard Beyer edited the Scandinavian Journal of Literary Research Edda for eleven years, from 1962 to 1972?

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 20:51, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Edda. Scandinavian Journal of Literary Research – Oceanh (give) (tag)
•   Edvard Beyer – Oceanh (give) (tag)

La Santisima Church

• ... that La Santisima Church has sunk at least almost 3 metres (9.8 ft) into the soft Mexico City soil since it was built in the 1780s (pictured)?

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 03:24, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

•   La Santisima Church – Thelmadatter (give) (tag)

Sphincterochila boissieri

• ... that desert snail Sphincterochila boissieri (shell pictured) could survive droughts without rain for several years?

Created by Snek01 (talk). Self nom at 22:17, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Sphincterochila boissieri – Snek01 (give) (tag)

Die Anarchisten

• ... that John Henry Mackay's semi-fictional propaganda book Die Anarchisten (1891) firmly established the individualist philosophy of Max Stirner in the German anarchist movement?

• ALT1:... that hours before the curtain raised on his debut opera Guntram, composer Richard Strauss was reportedly engaged in a heated discussion of John Henry Mackay's Die Anarchisten?
• ALT2:... that the publication of John Henry Mackay's Die Anarchisten in Zürich in 1891 introduced the uniformly communistic anarchist movement there to the individualist anarchism of Max Stirner?

Created by Skomorokh (talk). Self nom at 02:20, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Die Anarchisten – Skomorokh (give) (tag)

Allaire Iron Works (history), Howell Works (history), marine steam engine (history)

• ... that the Allaire Iron Works, using pig iron from Howell Works, built more than fifty percent of America's early marine steam engines (example pictured)?

• Hook fact is in Allaire Iron Works article in the intro. Gatoclass (talk) 07:38, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Created by Gatoclass (talk). Self nom at 06:56, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Allaire Iron Works – Gatoclass (give) (tag)
•   Howell Works – Gatoclass (give) (tag)
•   marine steam engine – Gatoclass (give) (tag)

SS Baltic (1850) (history)

• ... that after the Collins Line steamer Baltic (pictured) won the coveted Blue Riband in 1851, no American ship would regain the honor for a century?

• Comment: Hook fact is the Braynard cite, cite 12 IIRC.

Created/expanded by Gatoclass (talk). Self nom at 07:06, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   SS Pacific (1849) – Gatoclass (give) (tag)
•   SS Baltic (1850) – Gatoclass (give) (tag)

Chol Kiri District (history)

• ... that Chol Kiri District, Cambodia, was the site of a burial dispute over 3 bodies that eventually led to murder?

• Comment: A cached version of the hook reference (doesn't require registration) is available here [4] scroll down to July 6. Cheers, Paxse (talk) 05:40, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

5x expanded by Paxse (talk). Self nom at 05:40, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Chol Kiri District – Paxse (give) (tag)

Craig Seymour (history)

• ... that music critic Craig Seymour claimed stripping gave him the confidence he needed to interview major celebrities?

Created by Ratel (talk). Nominated by Another Believer (talk) at 22:26, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Craig Seymour – Ratel (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Another Believer (give)

Callophrys henrici (history)

• ... that Henry's Elfin populations are growing in New England due to the introduction of buckthorn, which the butterflies now use as a host plant?

Created by Meganmccarty (talk). Nominated by Another Believer (talk) at 21:38, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Callophrys henrici – Meganmccarty (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Another Believer (give)

John F. Bolt (history)

• ... that LtCol. John F. Bolt, Korean War Navy Cross recipient, remains the only U.S. Marine Corps jet aircraft flying ace?

Created/expanded by Looper5920 (talk). Nominated by ERcheck (talk) at 14:06, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

•   John F. Bolt – Looper5920 (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: ERcheck (give)

• Length and date verified. Book source for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:53, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

• ... that LtCol John Bolt was the only Marine aviator to achieve the title of ace in both WWII and the Korean War?

Devi river (history)

• ... that hundreds of Olive Ridley turtles are found dead around the mouth of the Devi river every year?

Created by Docku (talk). Self nom at 13:52, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Devi river – Like I Care (give) (tag)

• (checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Length, history, reference good. "Thousands" seems to be more accurate.

ALT1: ... that thousands of Olive Ridley turtles are found dead at the mouth of the Devi river every year? Shubinator (talk) 16:33, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

concur. --Docku: What's up? 16:55, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Electrik Red (history)

• ... that the members of R&B girl group Electrik Red appeared together in Ciara's music video for "Like a Boy"?

Created by Cornucopia (talk). Self nom at 09:25, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Electrik Red – Cornucopia (give) (tag)

• Length (5x expansion), date and source for hook verified. Perhaps it should be clarified that they appeared in "Like a Boy" before they formed Electrik Red, according to the source. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:03, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

:*Alt ... that the members of R&B girl group Electrik Red appeared together in Ciara's music video for "Like a Boy" before they formed the group? (avoids possibility of being misleading) —Mattisse (Talk) 23:03, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

While the alternative hook is much more interesting, I don't know if it's true. This ref says they "came together" in 2005. In this ref they say the began working "with different producers for about six" before being signed in 2008. Their official site says: "Once they decided to form a group, the girls decided on the name Electrik Red which they felt exuded their collective sensuality... In 2005, the foursome recorded a demo...", which implies they decided on the name before recording the demo in 2005. I think the VIBE ref is trying to say that they individually worked with Ciara in the past, and then appeared together (in 2007) in her "Like a Boy" video, after they had formed the group. Otherwise, I can't make much sense of this information; it's too muddled up! :) Corn.u.co.pia • Disc.us.sion 04:19, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

• I was going by the source you give in the article for the hook.[5] All four girls performed as dancers and models alongside artists like Mariah Carey, Janet Jackson, and Ciara—they appeared in her 2007 “Like a Boy” video together—before forming Electrik Red. This statement makes it sound like they performed together, as they were dancers and models, but not formally as a group named Electrik Red at this point. Perhaps all this goes to the unreliability of the sources.Or perhaps the problem is the source that you use for the hook, and that you need to discard it. —Mattisse (Talk) 14:09, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

• I managed to find another ref which states the same thing without the "before forming Electrik Red" part. Hopefully this will do. :) Corn.u.co.pia • Disc.us.sion 15:50, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 16:36, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Allison Ranger Station (history)

• ... that the original Forest Service ranger’s cabin at Allison Ranger Station in the Ochoco Mountains of Oregon was built in 1911?

Created by Orygun (talk). Self nom at 01:50, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Allison Ranger Station – Orygun (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Book source for hook accepted on good faith. (I added reference to hook, per DYK Rules.) —Mattisse (Talk) 23:53, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Nintoku Seamount (history)

• ... that Nintoku Seamount, an underwater volcano in the Hawaiian-Emperor seamount chain, is over 56.2 million years old?

5x expanded by ResMar 23:36, 10 April 2009 (UTC). Nominated by Resident Mario (talk) at 23:35, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Nintoku Seamount – Black Tusk (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Resident Mario (give)

Note:Black Tusk got around to deredlinking all of the Emporer seamounts, and then I expanded it signifigantly; he got there before I did, really, earlier today. ResUser_talk:Resident_Mario|Mar]] 23:35, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. However, source for hook in infobox says 15-20 million years ago. so it does not support your figure. Also, it would be much better if the hook were in the article, as many people do not read the infoboxes. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:53, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean? The age is confirmed. ResMar 18:54, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

• Per the only number mentioned in the source given: [6]. Plus, could you put the hook in the article? —Mattisse (Talk) 23:23, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

The hook is in the lead. I'm still not sure waht you mean by the age, though. It's said such in refs 3, 5, here and here. ResMar 19:56, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Francis Augustus Cox (history)

• ... that Francis Augustus Cox (pictured), who started to preach in his teens, was a Baptist minister in Hackney for 42 years?

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 23:12, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Francis Augustus Cox – Victuallers (give) (tag)

• Hackney is a disambiguation page, so I've piped the link to Metropolitan Borough of Hackney. Please fix it if it's wrong. Shubinator (talk) 00:44, 11 April 2009 (UTC) oops... thx Victuallers (talk) 08:21, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Clathrus columnatus (history)

• ... that the Column Stinkhorn fungus (pictured) starts out its development resembling an egg?

Created by sasata (talk). Self nom at 22:01, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Clathrus columnatus – sasata (give) (tag)

• Hmmm I guess there's many million different "eggs" it could resemble... I mean the classical chicken egg, but don't want to say so explicitly in the hook (as it's not in the source)... feel free to tweak if you feel it's necessary (maybe just "egg" in quotes?) Sasata (talk) 22:15, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. Source says something vaguely about an egg, but none of the pictures look egg-like. Could you come up with a different hook?

 ::ALT1: ... that the spores of the Column Stinkhorn fungus (pictured) are in the form of a malodorous gleba smeared on the inside of several column-like appendages? Sasata (talk) 03:23, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

ALT2: ... that the spores of the Column Stinkhorn fungus (pictured) are formed as a bad smelling gleba smeared on the inside of several column-like appendages? (reduce the long word component) —Mattisse (Talk) 00:01, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Cyptotrama asprata (history)

• ... that since its original description in 1847, the Golden-scruffy Collybia (pictured) mushroom has been placed in 14 different genera?

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 21:29, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Cyptotrama asprata – Sasata (give) (tag)

• Everything looks fine. Cheers. I'^mperator 21:50, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Richmond Bridge, London (history)

• ... that when it opened in 1776, the punishment for vandalism to Richmond Bridge was seven years of exile in America?

• Comment: Lots of other possible images included in the article: File:Rowlandson Richmond Bridge.jpg is the most "historic". File:Richmond Bridge from west.jpg is the prettiest and File:Richmond flood.JPG is the most striking. I've picked this as the one that's most visible at small sizes even though it's fairly ugly.

5x expanded by iridescent (talk). Self nom at 21:21, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Richmond Bridge, London – iridescent (give) (tag)

• Nice work, though "Matthews, p. 26" isn't exactly the best reference. Everything else seems fine. Cheers. I'^mperator 21:53, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

• Huh? "Matthews, p. 26" is a bog-standard Harvard reference. What are you suggesting I change? – iridescent 21:58, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll be damned. Imperator, please check the references on Michael Jackson. — R² 22:13, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Or on about 90% of FAs, since Harvard referencing is the style that's strongly encouraged… – iridescent 22:17, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Hmm. Sorry for the confusion, as I personally don't use the Harvard referncing style; rather, I simply use the standard given on WP:REF, such as

Ritter, R. (2002). The Oxford Style Manual. Oxford University Press. ISBN 0-19-860564-1.

given on WP:Ref itself. As I'm not familiar on Harvard referencing style, I'll leave it up to someone else to review this. Cheers. I'^mperator 23:21, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

• The only thing that is less than ideal is nine separate references to one specific page of a book. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:29, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

• It's a big (larger than A4) size book, with very small type. As it's the definitive authority on London's bridge architecture, as well as the most recently published, where possible I've used Matthews as the source, even though it means duplicating references; everything he says could be cited elsewhere but I don't want to bring in other sources just for the sake of it. Besides, he's far more likely to be available in libraries and shops, for anyone wanting to check references or find out more for themselves. – iridescent 23:34, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Aldo Ortiz (history)

• ... that Aldo Ortiz has held championships in four different professional wrestling promotions?

5x expanded by Genius101 (talk). Self nom at 15:47, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Aldo Ortiz – Genius101 (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. However, the article needs filling out. Currently it is a series of one paragraph sentences listing his wins. —Mattisse (Talk) 14:53, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Gunvald Tomstad (history)

• ... that Gunvald Tomstad, a double agent for Norwegian resistance in World War II, acted as a local "ideologist" of the Fascist party Nasjonal Samling?

Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 12:14, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Gunvald Tomstad – Punkmorten (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. However, the hook in the article is not referenced, and none of the references I looked at seemed to say exactly that, although the sources are in Norwegian. Could you add a reference? —Mattisse (Talk) 17:05, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

• Done. Punkmorten (talk) 18:49, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

• All is verified, including the hook source. —Mattisse (Talk) 18:56, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Dragón Rojo, Jr. (history)

• ... that professional wrestler Dragón Rojo, Jr. is one of CMLL's "ambassadors" in their campaign against tuberculosis?

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self nom at 11:33, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Dragón Rojo, Jr. – MPJ-DK (give) (tag)

• Length, date, and hook ref all check out. ^Law _shoot! 17:40, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

List of ROH World Champions (history)

• ... that the ROH World Championship has yet to be won more than once by a previous title holder during its seven years of existence?

Created by Wrestlinglover (talk). Self nom at 09:45, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

•   List of ROH World Champions – Wrestlinglover (give) (tag)

• I think the hook needs to mention wrestling. Art LaPella (talk) 02:28, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

• ALT1:... that the professional wrestling world championship the ROH World Championship has yet to be won more than once by a previous title holder during its seven years of existence?--WillC 03:05, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
• ALT2:... that no professional wrestler has held the ROH World Championship twice during its entire seven year existence as of April 2009?--WillC 03:05, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Stian Herlofsen Finne-Grønn (history), Sigurd Segelcke Meidell (history)

• ... that S. H. Finne-Grønn and Sigurd Segelcke Meidell were among the founders of the Norwegian Genealogical Society?

Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 09:42, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Stian Herlofsen Finne-Grønn – Punkmorten (give) (tag)
•   Sigurd Segelcke Meidell – Punkmorten (give) (tag)

Mac Amhlaoibh and Mac Amhalghaidh (Irish septs) (history)

• ... that today the descendants of at least three unrelated Irish clans or septs, named in Gaelic Mac Amhlaoibh and Mac Amhalghaidh, bear the exact same or similar surnames?

Created by Celtus (talk). Self nom at 07:06, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Mac Amhlaoibh and Mac Amhalghaidh (Irish septs) – Celtus (give) (tag)

• Not ready for DYK. Pmlinediter (talk) 08:27, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

• You should state why it is not ready, so the nominator knows what to improve. Punkmorten (talk) 09:48, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

El Salvador mine (history), El Teniente (history)

• ... that the El Salvador mine was owned by Anaconda Copper and the El Teniente mine was owned by Kennecott Copper Corporation before the the copper industry in Chile was nationalized?

5x expanded by kelapstick (talk), Bongomatic (talk). Self nom at 19:00, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

•   El Salvador mine – kelapstick (give) (tag)
•   El Salvador mine – Bongomatic (give) (tag)
•   El Teniente – kelapstick (give) (tag)
•   El Teniente – Bongomatic (give) (tag)

Jivin' in Be-Bop (history)

• ... that one critic wrote that Jivin' in Be-Bop includes "one of the worst ballets ever put on film"?

• ALT1:... that Dizzy Gillespie "skipp[ed] about the stage" in the 1947 film Jivin' in Be-Bop?

5x expanded by Malik Shabazz (talk). Self nom at 05:08, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Jivin' in Be-Bop – Malik Shabazz (give) (tag)

• Length (5x expansion), date, and sources for hooks verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:15, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Teens in the Wild

• ... that the observational documentary Teens in the Wild followed the journey of six teenagers into the wilderness of Connemara (pictured)? (new article, self-nom, choice of two images included) --candle•wicke 03:53, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Teens in the Wild – Candlewicke (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 14:26, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
• ALT... that the observational documentary Teens in the Wild follows the journey of six teenagers with "behavioural difficulties" into the wilderness of Connemara (pictured)? - (add sourced material from article) —Mattisse (Talk) 21:32, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

List of bomb vessels of the Royal Navy (history)

• ... that bomb vessels in the Royal Navy (example pictured) have tended to be named after volcanoes, or things associated with fire or hell?

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 00:44, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

•   List of bomb vessels of the Royal Navy – Benea (give) (tag)

• Article ready for DYK Pmlinediter (talk) 08:25, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

C. S. Schilbred (history)

• ... that C. S. Schilbred was among the founders of both the Norwegian Genealogical Society and the Norwegian Heraldry Society?

Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 20:49, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

•   C. S. Schilbred – Punkmorten (give) (tag)

Stand-off at the Fords of Arkaig (history)

• ... that the Stand-off at the Fords of Arkaig ended a deadly feud between Clan Cameron and Clan Mackintosh that had gone on for 360 years?

5x expanded by Le Deluge (talk). Self nom at 04:24, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Stand-off at the Fords of Arkaig – Le Deluge (give) (tag)

Articles created/expanded on April 9

La Lotería Letal

• ... that professional wrestling promotion Chikara hosted La Lotería Letal, a tag team tournament composed of randomly paired teams?

5x expanded by GaryColemanFan (talk). Self nom at 05:43, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

•   La Lotería Letal – GaryColemanFan (give) (tag)

• Date and hook verified. The length is 1538 characters, which passes, but is so barely over the limit that I don't know if I'm comfortable given the backlog with it. I'll leave it to the discretion of another whether we can use it. Wizardman 15:23, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

• Considering that the article is largely sourced to commercial websites that promote professional wrestling, I am inclined to say that we should not use this. Awadewit (talk) 04:01, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• Just to add, the only questionable site in that article is Smart Mark Video. The rest are reliable and used in GAs, FAs, FLs, etc. Though Smart Mark could be considered okay since it is only telling the layout of the DVD. From a member of WP:PW, I see nothing wrong with the sources that have been agreed upon as reliable.--WillC 05:14, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• I have added more information, bringing the total up to 2315 charcters. While some of the information about the tournament does come from the promotion itself, much of it is sourced to reliable third-party sources. As for the video link, they are the authorized distributor of the video footage. I included the format of the video release in the article, as has been encouraged repeatedly in Featured Article reviews. GaryColemanFan (talk) 05:19, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Jens Tillufssøn Bjelke (history)

• ... that Lady Inger’s daughter’s scandalous behavior enabled Jens Tillufssøn Bjelke, while of lesser nobility, to marry into leading Norwegian nobility?

Created by Williamborg (talk). Self nom at 04:06, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Jens Tillufssøn Bjelke – Williamborg (give) (tag)

• References are lacking page numbers. Awadewit (talk) 04:06, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• Page numbers added for 2 of the 4 references. The other 2 references are linked to web articles which deal only with Jens Tillufssøn Bjelke - the articles are not formatted by pages - hence entire article is referenced. Please let me know if this does not meet the need. Thanks - Williamborg (Bill) 05:12, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Henry Schwarzschild (history)

• ... that German-born Henry Schwarzschild—after emigrating in 1939—was a Freedom rider and founding member of the National Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty?

Created by Wtiffany (talk). Nominated by Sebastian scha. (talk) at 09:47, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Henry Schwarzschild – Wtiffany (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Sebastian scha. (give)

• This source does not mention that Schwarzschild was a founding member of the NCADP. We need to find a source for that statement. Awadewit (talk) 04:12, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

But this source cite a book naming him a "major architect", it's not enough? Maybe change the hook to "[...] Freedom rider and director of the [...]"? which is also based on the times article above. Sebastian scha. (talk) 09:03, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

René Fasel (history)

• ... that in 1995 René Fasel of Switzerland became the first ever representative of ice hockey to become a member of the International Olympic Committee?

Created by Scorpion0422 (talk). Self nom at 22:24, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

•   René Fasel – Scorpion0422 (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 01:30, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Buntingford Branch Line (history)

• ... that despite its name, the Ware, Hadham and Buntingford Railway did not run to Ware but further south to St Margarets, Hertfordshire, due to a local dispute?

Created by Simply south (talk). Self nom at 22:20, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Buntingford Branch Line – Simply south (give) (tag)

• I had to alter the hook after i realised i could show it was the same thing. Simply south (talk) 13:52, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Alt 1

• ... that walkers were encouraged to use the Buntingford Branch Line on Sundays with cheap Sunday tickets?

Alt 2

• ... that the Buntingford Branch Line's main freight was agricultural produce, which included a flour mill at Standon?

Simply south (talk) 22:42, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Per WP:DYK#DYK rules, the hook needs to have an inline citation immediately after it. I was going to check ALT1, but I'm not sure which source to check. Awadewit (talk) 04:18, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Block quote

I've now added which facts are from where, with especially the first paragraph in the history more comprehensively referenced. The naming both appears on the Subbrit page and in Hertfordshire's Lost Railways. The railway ticket is from Subbrit only. Alt 2 was mainly HLW. Simply south (talk) 09:31, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually before this is put on i have some photos of the route near Wareside, if not very interesting. One shows the route in a cutting, another shows the route below a bridge and another crossing the River Ash. Should i upload any of these? Simply south (talk) 19:49, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Source, length, and history verified. I don't think there is a need to upload any photos at this point. Awadewit (talk) 21:33, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Timeline of the 2002 Pacific hurricane season (history)

• ... that the 2002 Pacific hurricane season had the most category 5 hurricanes in the same season since records began in 1949?

Created by Irdicent (talk). Self nom at 21:04, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Timeline of the 2002 Pacific hurricane season – Irdicent (give) (tag)

• I'm finding it difficult to read the source used. ~ ωαdεstεr16_«talk^stalk» 04:59, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

• I tried to find the "easy to read" archives for the East Pacific, but I could only find this. --Yue ^{of the North} 13:36, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Can I change it to ... ALT 1... that the 2002 Pacific hurricane season ties for the most category 5 hurricanes in the same season with the 1994 season?

--Yue ^{of the North} 13:38, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

That reference is rather hard to read but it does the job of verifying the Hook. Also Irmela yes you can change your hook to that as otherwise i would point out a problem with the other one. However i do have an alternative suggestion which you might wish to use. Jason Rees (talk) 21:01, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Alt 2; ... that the 2002 Pacific hurricane season and the 1994 Pacific hurricane season are currently tied for the number of Category 5 hurricanes in the same season with three each?

Shouldn't the hook mention that it's a timeline? The article for the season has existed for several years. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:35, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Dorothy Cullman (history)

• ... that philanthropist Dorothy Cullman and her husband, Lewis Cullman, donated over $250 million in support of the arts, science, and education?

Created/expanded by Spidern (talk). Self nom at 19:02, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Dorothy Cullman – Spidern (give) (tag)

• This is 1567 characters long, barely over the 1500-character minimum. As Wizardman stated in another nom above, we are backlogged and have many noms waiting. We can therefore afford to be picky. If the article isn't expanded, I would suggest we let this one go. Awadewit (talk) 04:22, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
  • I have added some sources and expanded the article's readable prose up to 2418 characters. ←Spidern→ 15:25, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Thomas Johannessen Heftye (history)

• ... that Thomas Johannessen Heftye co-founded the Norwegian Trekking Association in 1868?

Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 17:59, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Thomas Johannessen Heftye – Punkmorten (give) (tag)

• Length, date verified. Hook's foreign language ref accepted in good faith. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:07, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Caloscypha fulgens (history)

• ... that the spring orange peel fungus (pictured) infects caches of pinecones collected by squirrels?

• Comment: Moved from userspace

Created by sasata (talk). Self nom at 17:35, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Caloscypha fulgens – sasata (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Offline source for hook verified, although it sounds like the story is a bit more complicated. —Mattisse (Talk) 02:20, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Johnny Midnight (TV series)

• ... that Edmond O'Brien's 1960 syndicated crime drama, Johnny Midnight, set in Times Square in New York City, used the catchy theme song, Lullaby of Broadway?

New article by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:46, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Johnny Midnight (TV series) – Billy Hathorn (give) (tag)

• Note: "catchy" in hook is POV and not supported by any source, so I recommend its removal from hook. I'm also unsure about Times Square.
• ALT ... that Edmond O'Brien's 1960 syndicated crime drama, Johnny Midnight, set in New York City, used as a theme song, Lullaby of Broadway?

• ALT2 ... used Lullaby of Broadway as a theme song? Art LaPella (talk) 02:28, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

The majority of the sources used in this article are unreliable. This user has been given advice about improving sources many times and continues to nominate articles based on IMDB and the like. Awadewit (talk) 04:25, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Nailsea Court (history)

• ... that Richard Perceval, who was born at Nailsea Court, deciphered Spanish documents for Queen Elizabeth about the Spanish Armada invasion plans?

Created by Rodw (talk). Self nom at 12:59, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Nailsea Court – Rodw (give) (tag)

• Length, history, and hook verified. However, the article is severely unbalanced. It is almost entirely a history of Nailsea Court. It does not really the describe the building. D6 seems to apply here. Awadewit (talk) 04:35, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Response - I have added information about the architecture, decoration and, in particular, the stained glass - I hope this makes the article more rounded?— Rod ^talk 08:46, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Ove Gjerløw Meyer (history)

• ... that Ove Gjerløw Meyer is recognized as the 1772 founder of the Norwegian Society?

Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 09:25, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Ove Gjerløw Meyer – Punkmorten (give) (tag)

• Length, date verified. Hook's foreign language ref accepted in good faith. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:27, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

List of colleges and universities in Nevada (history)

• ... that there are eight public institutions of higher learning in Nevada?

Created/expanded by MBisanz (talk). Self nom at 08:44, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

•   List of colleges and universities in Nevada – MBisanz (give) (tag)

• 1496 characters. 1500 is the minimum. Awadewit (talk) 04:37, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• Greater than 1500 now. MBisanz ^talk 04:46, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

De mirabilibus urbis Romae (history)

• ... that the 12th-century guide to Rome's wonders, De mirabilibus urbis Romae, survived in a single copy?--Wetman (talk) 01:50, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

•   De mirabilibus urbis Romae – Wetman (give) (tag)

Goat meat (history)

• ... that goat meat (pictured) is becoming a more common food in North America, especially in upscale restaurants?

• ALT1:... that goat meat (pictured) is often called chevon, which is derived from French?

Created by Steven Walling (talk). Self nom at 00:35, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Goat meat – Steven Walling (give) (tag)

• Length, date and sources for hooks verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 02:02, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

• Comment First hook seems better than second; better to have the hook about the thing itself than about its name. Nyttend (talk) 12:14, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
• ALT2:... that goat meat (pictured) is often called chevon (from French chèvre) in the U.S., as market research suggests that makes it more acceptable to consumers? - (explains why the word is used - sourced from article) —Mattisse (Talk) 15:47, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
• Comment Nice piece and verifiable - go with the first quote ;) --Thelostlibertine (talk) 00:50, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
• Comment - Bleurggh, I'm sorry, IMO this is the worst sort of Wiki-parochialism. Goat meat is close to a national icon in some en.wiki countries - think of curried goat in Jamaica for instance - and yet the "highlight" of the article is the fact that middle-class Americans are finding it easier to purchase in their delicatessens, and have borrowed a French word to salve their consciences? Get some Jamaicans on the case, they'll be able to find some decent hooks. Or people might want to {{globalise}} themselves - for instance, unadulterated goat meat has made enough of an impact on British culture that a BBC comedy show was named the Curried Goat Show.Le Deluge (talk) 04:49, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

• Hooks are supposed to be about new and unusual information, not (boring) cultural norms. Chinese is mostly spoken in China, but if there was a British or American movement to start learning it in droves, that'd be a great hook. It's interesting that Americans are eating goat now, when it used to be reviled, just like it'd be interesting if a lot of Jamaicans starting eating unusual, once-taboo food. Feel free to step up and suggest an alternate hook if you like though, of course. Steven Walling (talk) 02:56, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Harald Noreng (history)

• ... that professor Harald Noreng led a project to list every word used in Henrik Ibsen's body of works?

Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 10:10, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Harald Noreng – Punkmorten (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Hook source in Norwegian language accepted in good faith. I added a reference, but it would be better if there were more, rather than relying so much on one source. —Mattisse (Talk) 16:16, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

NTA Film Network

• ... that despite signing over 100 affiliate TV stations, the NTA Film Network never developed into a major television network?

Created by Firsfron (talk). Self nom at 05:14, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

•   NTA Film Network – Firsfron (give) (tag)

• Everything checks out. Wizardman 15:27, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 8

Portland University (history)

• ... that the defunct Portland University in Oregon had only one building, so the school bookstore was a nearby general store?

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 08:55, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Portland University – Aboutmovies (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Offline newspaper source for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 14:34, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Irish emergency budget, 2009

• ... that The Independent's reaction to Ireland's recent emergency budget included a cartoon of the country's Taoiseach (pictured) measuring a dead tiger? (new article, self-nom) --candle•wicke 03:42, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Irish emergency budget, 2009 – Candlewicke (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 14:39, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

William D. Alexander (history)

• ... that William D. Alexander produced the last race movie made by an African-American producer?

• ALT1:... that during World War II, William D. Alexander helped produce more than 250 newsreels concerning African-American soldiers and sailors?

Created/expanded by Malik Shabazz (talk). Self nom at 23:23, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

•   William D. Alexander – Malik Shabazz (give) (tag)

• Length and date and one hook verified. Offline book sources accepted on good faith for other hook. —Mattisse (Talk) 01:19, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Ola Thommessen (history), Verdens Gang (1868-1923 newspaper)

• ... that editor Ola Thommessen (caricatured) left the newspaper Verdens Gang in 1910, founding Tidens Tegn, which bought Verdens Gang only thirteen years later?

Created by Oceanh (talk), Punkmorten (talk). Nominated by Punkmorten (talk) at 16:41, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Ola Thommessen – Oceanh (give) (tag)
•   Ola Thommessen – Punkmorten (give) (tag)
•   Verdens Gang (1868-1923 newspaper) – Oceanh (give) (tag)
•   Verdens Gang (1868-1923 newspaper) – Punkmorten (give) (tag)

• Added caricature. Oceanh (talk) 07:56, 13 April 2009 (UTC).

Operation K (history)

• ... that the botched raid on Pearl Harbor during Operation K prohibited the IJN from tracking US Navy aircraft carriers prior to the Battle of Midway?

5x expanded by 293.xx.xxx.xx (talk). Self nom at 07:38, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Operation K – 293.xx.xxx.xx (give) (tag)

• 5111/3488 = 1.5x prose expansion. Please continue expanding. Shubinator (talk) 01:39, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Death of Ian Tomlinson

• ... that Ian Tomlinson was attacked from behind by the London police, while he was on his way home from work, and died of a heart-attack a few minutes later?

1. Its in the news 2. "few"? 3. See template above 4. Welcome Victuallers (talk) 09:38, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Given that this may well be the subject of a criminal prosecution, I can't see that this can possibly being appropriate for a DYK? Le Deluge (talk) 04:59, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Sprout Creek (history)

• ... that Sprout Creek (pictured), whose subwatershed covers 29,342 acres of land, is the largest tributary of the Fishkill Creek?

Created by Juliancolton (talk). Self nom at 03:50, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Sprout Creek – Juliancolton (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Sources accepted on good faith, as trying to examine PDF file froze my browser. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:58, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Nocturnes Op. 32 (Chopin) (history)

• ... that Frédéric Chopin's Nocturne in A-flat major, Op. 32, No. 2, originally written for piano, was orchestrated in the ballet Les Sylphides?

5x expanded by NocturneNoir (talk). Self nom at 02:46, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Nocturnes Op. 32 (Chopin) – NocturneNoir (give) (tag)

Professional Father

• ... that two years before being cast as June Cleaver on Leave It to Beaver, Barbara Billingsley played the wife of a child psychologist in the 1955 CBS sitcom Professional Father?

New article by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:46, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Professional Father – Billy Hathorn (give) (tag)

• Is the hook reference a reliable source? ^Law _shoot! 18:57, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

3 of the 5 footnotes come from unreliable sources. As this user continues to submit articles with the same unreliable sources in them, I suggest we reject this nom. Awadewit (talk) 06:59, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Modjeska Monteith Simkins House (history)

• ... that the Modjeska Monteith Simkins House (pictured) in Columbia, South Carolina, honors the life and work of the civil rights activist Modjeska Monteith Simkins?

• ALT1:... that the civil rights attorneyThurgood Marshall stayed at the Modjeska Monteith Simkins House (pictured) during visits to Columbia, South Carolina?

Created/expanded by KudzuVine (talk). Self nom at 22:41, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Modjeska Monteith Simkins House – KudzuVine (give) (tag)

• Looks good. Shimgray | talk | 15:40, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Morcar (died 1015) (history)

• ... that exactly 1000 years ago, Morcar was given lands at Weston-on-Trent, Crich and Ingleby in Derbyshire (see map) by King Æþelræd Unræd?

Created by Ealdgyth (talk), User:Deacon of Pndapetzim and Victuallers (talk) at 21:44, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Morcar (died 1015) – Ealdgyth (give) (tag)
•   Morcar (died 1015) – Deacon of Pndapetzim (give) (tag)
•   Morcar (died 1015) – Victuallers (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Victuallers (give)

Sony/ATV Music Publishing (history)

• ... that aside from owning the publishing rights to The Beatles' songs, Sony/ATV Music Publishing, co-owned by Michael Jackson (pictured), controls the music of Eminem and Akon?

5x expanded by Pyrrhus16 (talk). Self nom at 13:26, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Sony/ATV Music Publishing – Pyrrhus16 (give) (tag)

:* This is not a 5x expansion. On March 27, it was 1390 characters. (Or on March 3, it was 1404 characters.) Today it is 15282 characters. 5 x 1309 = 21950 characters. Since 15282 is less than the required 5x minimum of 21950, article is too short to qualify. —Mattisse (Talk) 16:40, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

• 5 x 1309 = 6545, not 21950. 15282 divided by 5 = 3056. So it is 5x expansion. Pyrrhus16 17:01, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

• Humm. You are right. Sorry! —Mattisse (Talk) 17:05, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Connecticut State University System (history)

• ... that the Connecticut State University System is a public university system in Connecticut consisting of four comprehensive universities?

Created/expanded by MBisanz (talk). Self nom at 05:55, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Connecticut State University System – MBisanz (give) (tag)

SS Makambo (history)

• ... that the steamship SS Makambo was built in Scotland, caused an environmental disaster on Lord Howe Island by introducing Black Rats there, and was sunk by a British submarine?

Created by Maias (talk). Self nom at 05:09, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

•   SS Makambo – Maias (give) (tag)

Metropolitan Magazine (New York) (history)

• ... that before he died, United States President Theodore Roosevelt's last act was finishing an editorial article for Metropolitan Magazine (cover pictured)?

• Comment: Ref, second page, left column, in the middle of "Evaded Physician's Enquiries". Feel free to reword the hook.

Created/expanded by Shubinator (talk). Self nom at 04:46, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Metropolitan Magazine (New York) – Shubinator (give) (tag)

• ALT1: ... that United States President Theodore Roosevelt's last act before he died was finishing an editorial article for Metropolitan Magazine (cover pictured)? Shubinator (talk) 06:05, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

• ALT2 ... that during the Mexican Revolution, Metropolitan Magazine (cover pictured) sent reporter John Reed to Mexico where he stayed with Pancho Villa? (sourced statement from article) —Mattisse (Talk) 21:26, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

• Length, date and sources for hooks verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 21:28, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Stephen Jones (milliner) (history)

• ... that before becoming milliner to Christian Dior, Stephen Jones's first commercial commission was a hat for a cough medicine advertisement?

Created by Mabalu (talk). Self nom at 01:51, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Stephen Jones (milliner) – Mabalu (give) (tag)

• Please note that this entry was moved over from my workspace to the main page today, I have been working on it for about 8 days. It still needs some tweaking and stuff, but I couldn't resist the cough medicine suggestion... There are a lot of other possible alt hooks... Mabalu (talk) 01:51, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
• Alt-hook1 ... that high-end milliner Stephen Jones's first hat was trimmed with a plastic iris which had originally been a promotional item for a petrol station?
• Alt-hook2 ... that after milliner Stephen Jones had his head shaved by drunk friends one New Year's Eve, he discovered he was a perfect woman's stock size, and could become his own fit model?

Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, Cardiff (history)

• ... that the Swaminarayan temple in Cardiff replaced a synagogue when it first opened in 1982 and then an old Irish club when it moved in 1993?

Created by AroundTheGlobe (talk). Self nom at 10:38, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, Cardiff – AroundTheGlobe (give) (tag)

Articles created/expanded on April 7

Roystonea oleracea (history)

• ... that from July to November, fruit of the royal palm Roystonea oleracea dominates the diet of the Orange-winged Amazon and Red-bellied Macaw in the Nariva Swamp, Trinidad and Tobago?

Created by Guettarda (talk). Self nom at 03:25, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Roystonea oleracea – Guettarda (give) (tag)

• The source says July to September.

• Actually the text says that from July to September it's R. oleracea

The Red-bellied macaws and Orange-winged parrots fed mainly on Roystonea palm fruit from July to September, on both palms October to December and mainly on Mauritia in January

but Figure 2 shows that Roystonea fruit still account for ~60% of the feeding visits through November (as opposed to 80-100% between July and September). Guettarda (talk) 13:16, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that the Orange-winged Amazon and Red-bellied Macaw mostly eat fruit from the royal palm Roystonea oleracea from July to September? Shubinator (talk) 19:40, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Wouldn't "mostly eat" flow than "eat mostly"? Guettarda (talk) 13:16, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Yeah, the figure does show that. I've tweaked the hook as suggested. Length, history, reference good. Shubinator (talk) 01:46, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

List of number-one albums of 2008 (Japan) (history)

• ... that Exile Love, the top-selling Japanese music album in 2008, was actually released in 2007?

• ALT1:... that in 2008, Mariya Takeuchi became the first artist over 50 to ever have a number-one album in Japan for three consecutive weeks?
• Comment: Was a list with no prose; intro section (2000 chars) added starting from April 7. Hook source is in Japanese.

Created/expanded by Moon-sunrise (talk). Nominated by Rjanag (talk) at 19:21, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

•   List of number-one albums of 2008 (Japan) – Moon-sunrise (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Rjanag (give)

• ALT2:... that Perfume is only the second technopop group in 25 years to have a number-one album in Japan? ^~Moon~月と暁^~Sunrise~ 20:06, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Melidectes (history)

• ... that Melidectes (Belford's Melidectes pictured) is a genus of honeyeater endemic to the mountains of New Guinea and New Britain?

5x expanded by Sabine's Sunbird (talk). Self nom at 05:16, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Melidectes – Sabine's Sunbird (give) (tag)

• Length (5x expansion) and date verified. It seems like the hook is only true specifically for the Bismarck Melidectes, which is sometimes considered to constitute its own genus, Vosea, and not for Melidectes. Am I confused? —Mattisse (Talk) 23:40, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

The Brothers Brannagan

• ... that the low-budgeted 1960 syndicated TV series, The Brothers Brannagan, about two Phoenix private detectives, featured James Coburn and Burt Reynolds in early career appearances?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:46, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

•   The Brothers Brannagan – Billy Hathorn (give) (tag)

• Currently tagged as a stub by WikiProject Television. Also, please use the nomination template instead of copying & pasting. Shubinator (talk) 01:35, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Largely sourced to IMDB. This user has repeatedly been asked to improve his sourcing in the past - to no avail, apparently. Awadewit (talk) 06:57, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Checkers speech (history)

• ... that when Eisenhower told Nixon that he was unsure if Nixon would stay on the ticket if the Checkers speech succeeded, Nixon replied that there are times “when you've either got to shit or get off the pot”?

5x expanded by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 22:44, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Checkers speech – Wehwalt (give) (tag)

• Length (5x expansion) and date verified. Book sources for hook accepted on good faith. Would prefer a hook that explained why the speech is named after Checkers, rather than a rather sensational quotation that does not explain anything about the situation to someone not already familiar with the story. Perhaps a hook that explains why the speech is famous/notorious. I read through the article, but I don't see a clear explanation why "Checkers" was selected for the name of the speech or why the speech had such impact, or why the speech has a place in history today. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:35, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

• Well, the article is still a work in progress, Mattisse, and I haven't yet finished the end. I think that a good majority of people already know, to some extent or other, what the Checkers speech was, and those who will not, the way to get em to know is to draw them in with a hook such as I proposed. No one will be upset or surprised by Nixon using an expletive not deleted, of course, it is perfectly in character. Also, in two hundred characters, it would be kinda hard to explain what it is and why it is important (arguably the first use of television to appeal directly to the voter, which is not yet in the article but will be). I'm inclined to go with the existing hook, but I'm open to suggestions. I already used Chotiner ripping up the resignation telegram for the hook about him.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:50, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

• Incidentally, most of your questions are now covered in the article. It is all done but the media reaction section, which I will do tomorrow, probably. Then I will start to polish it, read it over and over obsessively, start gathering images ... you know how I work, Mattisse.--Wehwalt (talk) 02:17, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

The majority of en.wiki users are not in North America, and few of them will have any clue what the Checkers speech is about - hell, many North Americans under the age of 60 probably don't know it either. Think global people, think global.... Le Deluge (talk) 05:06, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

You can't both explain what the Checkers speech was, and give some interesting fact about it, in 200 characters. Notably, when I did the hook for Murray Chotiner, which mentioned the speech, I did not explain what it was, and no one seemed to have a problem with that. But how about:

ALT1... that over 4,000,000 communications were sent by the public after the 1952 Checkers speech, supporting Richard Nixon by 75 to 1?--Wehwalt (talk) 12:55, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

ALT2... that Nixon's Checkers speech about political donations took its nickname from a dog "donated" by his children?

Tells you a bit about the subject, gives a slightly whimsical bit of trivia that isn't just a list of numbers - and is 109 characters so gives you room to expand a bit if you need it. Le Deluge (talk) 14:19, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Not quite accurate though. How about:

ALT3 ... that while 60,000,000 people watched or listened to future U.S. President Richard Nixon save his political career with the Checkers speech, he delivered it to a completely empty theatre? I should add that I really prefer the original hook, I think the Wikipedia reader is being underestimated. Mind if I deliver a half hour speech to the Wikipedia community? I need a dog though ...--Wehwalt (talk) 19:25, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Continue to underestimate the Wikipedia community, please. I teach college students in the United States and have had the unfortunate experience of hearing the following questions: "What was the Cold War?" "When was the Civil War - the 1960s?" "What was the American Revolution all about?" None of these are atypical either. I think we should go with a version of Le Deluge's hook. Awadewit (talk) 06:55, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

ALT4... that US President Richard Nixon's Checkers speech about suspect political donations took its nickname from a dog he said he would not return to a supporter? Awadewit (talk) 06:54, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Wayamba province cricket team (history)

• ... that the Wayamba province cricket team took Basnahira South's last nine wickets for just eleven runs in the finals of the Sri Lankan Inter-Provincial Twenty20 tournament, and went on to win the match by five wickets?

Created by Chanakal (talk). Self nom at 03:26, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Wayamba province cricket team – Chanakal (give) (tag)

• First hook 216 characters. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:26, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

• alt1 ... that 21-year-old Isuru Udana of the Wayamba province cricket team was adjudged Man of the Match and Series of the 2009 Inter-Provincial Twenty20 tournament?

• Length, date and source for alt1 hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:26, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

• ... that the Wayamba province cricket team took Basnahira South's last nine wickets for just eleven runs in the finals of the Sri Lankan Inter-Provincial Twenty20 tournament?

Note: Original hook shortened by removing match result and retaining only the highlight.--Chanaka L (talk) 04:01, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Karl Sigwald Johannes Bull (history)

• ... that Karl S. J. Bull was present at the negotiations in Karlstad between Norway and Sweden in 1905 as a military representative, despite only being ranked Colonel?

5x expanded by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 20:30, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Karl Sigwald Johannes Bull – Punkmorten (give) (tag)

• Length (1544 char) and date verified. Hook is not in article specifically, per D1. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:05, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

• ALT 1: ... that Karl S. J. Bull was present at the negotiations in Karlstad between Norway and Sweden in 1905 as a military representative? Punkmorten (talk) 19:19, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

The London Eye Mystery (history)

• ... that Siobhan Dowd's second book, The London Eye Mystery, won six awards, including the School Library Journal Best Books of the Year Award 2008?

Created by Queenie (talk). Self nom at 13:49, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

•   The London Eye Mystery – Queenie (give) (tag)

• Classified as a stub by WikiProject Children's literature. The reviewer used the current version to assess. Shubinator (talk) 20:22, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
• Length and date verified. However, this article is questionable as 95% of it is a dense, one paragraph plot section. As plot sections do not need references, this means that only the first two sentences and the last sentence are referenced. —Mattisse (Talk) 20:29, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

• There is so little in this article beyond the plot that I feel it fails D6. There is nothing on the themes, style, or genre or the book nor on the reception of the book. Awadewit (talk) 06:47, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Bambusa lako (history)

• ... that the flowers of the bamboo species Bambusa lako of Timor are unknown to science?

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 02:56, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Bambusa lako – Casliber (give) (tag)

ALT1:... that the flowers of the bamboo species Bambusa lako of Timor have yet to be scientifically observed?--Wehwalt (talk) 03:09, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. Off line sources accepted on good faith. ALT1 hook verified, as the article describes a botanist observing the flower. On line scientific article verifies the need for scientific observation of flower, so presumed existence of flower is not unknown to science. —Mattisse (Talk) 20:50, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 6

Río Pilcomayo National Park (history)

• ... that the Río Pilcomayo National Park (pictured) in Argentina is included in the Ramsar Convention's list of wetlands of international importance?

5x expanded by Óðinn (talk). Self nom at 11:51, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Río Pilcomayo National Park – Óðinn (give) (tag)

• Length (5x expansion), date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 02:24, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Tourist attractions in Warsaw (history)

• ... that despite its tragic history, Warsaw has many unique tourist attractions and places to see and explore?

•   Tourist attractions in Warsaw – Martim33 (give) (tag)

5x expanded by Martim33 (talk). Self nom at 11:38, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that the carefully reconstructed Old Town, UNESCO World Heritage Site, is one of main tourist attractions of Warsaw, Poland?

Surely we can do better than this for such a historic city? An Old Town WHS is not particularly unique, surely there's something that can be conjured up from Chopin, or Curie, or get a reference for the Winnie-the-Pooh street. Focus in on the specifics, it's the quirky little things that catch people's attention, not the broad brushes. Le Deluge (talk) 05:13, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

The image has quite a few tags on it. The source should be clarified. If the image has been released into the public domain by the author, we need an OTRS from the author. Shubinator (talk) 03:28, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

• Although length (5x expansion) and date verified, agree that references for hook are needed. —Mattisse (Talk) 02:35, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

I've added some references. Martim33 (talk) 09:52, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

• But, per D1, the hook is not in the article. I would have to draw a conclusion from several separate statements. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:21, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Paul E. Davis (history), 1963 Liberty Bowl (history)

• ... that coach Paul E. Davis led Mississippi State to win the 1963 Liberty Bowl, but the attendance dropoff and bitter cold led to playing the next year's game in Atlantic City as the first bowl game played indoors?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 16:28, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Paul E. Davis – Alansohn (give) (tag)
•   1963 Liberty Bowl – Alansohn (give) (tag)

• Unless the fans threw themselves off the edge of the stadium in despair, suggest substituting the word "attendance" for "fans".--Wehwalt (talk) 03:14, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

• Tweaked as suggested. Alansohn (talk) 03:54, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't see the connection between the two parts of the hook. What does Davis winning in 1963 have to do with the move to Atlantic City? These seem like two different hooks to me. Could this be rewritten? Perhaps both of these cannot be made to fit into one hook. Awadewit (talk) 18:18, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

The 1963 Liberty Bowl is the connection. Davis' role had nothing to do with the move, but it's unclear why there must be a causal connection. Alansohn (talk) 16:48, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't understand your response. Awadewit (talk) 06:32, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Munich Tramway (history)

• ... that after World War II, only 168 of 444 trams in Munich, Germany, (pictured) were in operational condition?

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 11:03, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Munich Tramway – Arsenikk (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Hook does not appear to be sourced according to DYK hook rules which state there should be a factual statement in the article that is the hook, with a reference at the end of the statement. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:31, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
  • I have added a ref tag after the hook. While it now meets the DYK rules, the referencing now violates the MoS and will confuse the reader, since the whole paragraph save the last sentence is from the same source. Arsenikk ^(talk) 07:48, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

• How does the referencing violate MoS? I do not think any of the DYK Rules result in a violation of MoS. When a whole paragraph is from the same source, with only one reference at the end, often new editors will edit the paragraph, changing the material so that the one reference at the end is no longer accurate. —Mattisse (Talk) 13:57, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

• To follow that logic, wouldn't one have to place a citation after every single sentence? Furthermore, new editors may edit the article, but then again someone can fix their editing. Punkmorten (talk) 10:16, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

• Old argument; please see D1. Art LaPella (talk) 02:28, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

• I do think that the chart or list is confusing to read. —Mattisse (Talk) 13:57, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Duchers (history)

• ... that although the erstwhile capital of the Qing Heilongjiang was built on the site of a Ducher town, no one is sure what exactly happened to the Duchers themselves?

Created by Vmenkov (talk). Self nom at 06:53, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Duchers – Vmenkov (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Is there a source saying that no one is sure what happened to the Duchers? There is no source given in the article for the statement that "The ethnic identification of the Duchers and even the meaning of their name (and whether it was also a self-name) remain controversial." Is that your conclusion after reading various views? Is there a reason not to accept the view you label "perhaps more common"? Also, this is weasel wording. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:39, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the constructive criticism. I've added a few more citations. How about this:

• ... that the erstwhile capital of the Qing Heilongjiang was built on the site of a town formerly belonging to the Ducher people, whose ethnic identification remains controversial?

The above is supported by the in-line references to two modern authorities on the Tungusic peoples and/or the history of the region, one of which (B. Polevoi) identifies the Duchers with the Nanais, and the other (A. Barykin) with the Jurchens/Manchus. (Of course, in his paper Barykin also says that no-one but Polevoi thinks that the Duchers were the Nanais, but that's his opinion...) They also mention a paper by Bolotin specifically on the origin of the Duchers, but it's not online. Vmenkov (talk) 06:21, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

• But the statement "The ethnic identification of the Duchers and even the meaning of their name (and whether it was also a self-name) remain controversial." remains unsourced in the article. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:49, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, that was the introductory sentence of its section, and was followed by three (sourced) paragraphs which summarized the competing opinions. To comply with the DYK rules, I have now also added references - with actual quotes - directly to this sentence. Vmenkov (talk) 00:49, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 5

Notice Please see my suggestion at Template talk:Did you know/Queue/3.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:03, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Please see latest response.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 13:37, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Linghu Chu (history)

• ... that the Tang Dynasty official Linghu Chu was, after the sudden death of his superior Zheng Dan, threatened by soldiers with swords to draft a will for Zheng?

• ALT1:... that it was the advocacy of the Tang Dynasty official Linghu Chu that the bodies of the chancellors Wang Yai, Jia Su, and Shu Yuanyu were buried after being exposed to the elements?

Created by Nlu (talk). Self nom at 06:37, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Linghu Chu – Nlu (give) (tag)

• I continue to think that featuring articles on the main page constructed solely from such old sources is poor practice when both WP:V and WP:RS demand "Academic and peer-reviewed publications are highly valued and usually the most reliable sources in areas where they are available, such as history, medicine." However, as there is no consensus at this time for rejecting these articles, I would like to suggest that all of these hooks attribute the information. For example, for the first hook, we could say "according to the Book of Tang...". Note also that in the article, the word used is "report", while the hook says "will". Why the difference? Awadewit (talk) 00:55, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

• • I don't think that in a hook you'd want to use "final report"; it would not be as clear in the context of the front page as to what it is. --Nlu (talk) 01:07, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

• I agree with Awadewit that these article based on history written over 1000 years ago, and ignoring modern scholarship on the Tang Dynasty, are problematic and need to clearly indicate somehow that this information based on ancient sources. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:31, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

• Given that none of these sources were "over 1000 years ago," I find your assertion to be itself suspect. --Nlu (talk) 02:42, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• According to Wikipedia, New Book of Tang (1060), Book of Tang (945), and Zizhi Tongjian (1084). That is about 1000 years old. If Wikipedia's dates are incorrect, please fix them. Thanks. Awadewit (talk) 04:52, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• I did forget that the Book of Tang was a 10th century source. However, the last I checked, 2009 - 1060 = 949, and 2009 - 1084 = 925, unless my math is off. --Nlu (talk) 05:09, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• OK "about 1000 years old" - does that remove your suspicion? If this is the level of the discussion, I fear we will get nowhere. Do you have any support from other sources to bolster your position? —Mattisse (Talk) 13:46, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• To bolster what position? That the asserted facts in the hooks are factual? I think the onus is for someone else to show that there is, at least, a factual dispute. Without any assertion of factual dispute, there is no greater reason to doubt the medieval sources more than any other sources. (The issue would be quite different if there is a factual dispute, but none has been demonstrated.) --Nlu (talk) 16:09, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• The facts stated in the hook need support from modern sources. There could be a parallel article on Wikipedia, about the same person using a more modern version of the name, and we would never know. From the Tang Dynasty article and the many related articles, I realize there is a great deal of modern scholarship, including archeological findings, available. Have you consulted these? All you are doing is rephrasing the Book of Tang into a series of Wikipedia articles. Would that be enough for an editor to do for articles on stories from the Christian Bible? Or for an editor to write a series of articles on the history of Greece using ancient Greek writing alone? —Mattisse (Talk) 20:27, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• I agree with the other commentators, but I would like to go further. These articles are an offence both to the project and to the field of history. There is no need for any consensus, since they so clearly violate the most basic of principles: WP:NOR. It's really very simple: "Without a secondary source, a primary source may be used only to make descriptive claims", that means you can say "according to the Book of Tang...", but you cannot use it as a source in itself. The idea that a thousand year old source (sorry, 925+) can be regarded as anything but a primary source, just shows a complete lack of understanding for historical method. Furthermore, the fact that there are no secondary sources here whatsoever, brings the whole article into doubt. I'll tag them with {{Primary sources}}, but really I question the justification for their very existence. Lampman (talk) 20:32, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• I agree, unfortunately. Several of these DYKs from the Book of Tang, the New Book of Tang etc. have been displayed per week for a while now. I would prefer for DYK to exercise some minimal quality control. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:09, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
• Tagging them with {{Primary sources}} would be, in my opinion, a complete falsehood, since under WP:PSTS they are not primary sources. Again, if you want to open a discussion on whether they should be considered primary sources, be my guest. No one is stopping you from doing it. --Nlu (talk) 02:39, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Well there is another discussion at WT:WIAFA but I would think that such sources are suspect due to the extreme passing of time. I know of a few famous historians who wrote their PhD thesis by interpreting the chronicles, if these were considered truly secondary I don't think that they would allow a PhD at an Ivy League to simply rehash them. Another thing is that although the writers were learned for their time, there is nowhere near the academic freedom or historiographical rigour that there is now. Eg, the chronicles commissioned by the Nguyen Dynasty were written by learned scholars of the time, but was highly critical of the Tay Son Dynasty, which the Nguyen deposed, and kept on referring to them as bandits and pirates etc, which is why it's better for trained scholars to weed out the fact from the exageration, rather than amateurs like us. Another thing is that basically all histories of the old days are written in a xenophobic tone, especially when dealing with wars against other countries. This type of stuff was common in all Viet dynasties' histories criticising their predecessors. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 04:16, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

However, such biases can be dealt with without throwing the entire history away -- as effectively, it is being proposed here (again, without formally opening a Wikipedia policy discussion). The histrionics and the epithets can be abandoned, and the political agenda can be dealt with, without simply deleting, for example, Trưng Sisters. --Nlu (talk) 04:50, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

(unindent) I came here in response to a posting on WT:CHINA. I agree that using only ancient sources can be risky. However, it is important to allow someone with the time and resources an opportunity to find modern sources. I just found one for the article under discussion here, that at least proves Linghu Chu's existence. I certainly wouldn't support deleting this type of artice en masse or anything. If you have concerns about any article, let me know, and I will try to find sources for it. (or you can do so yourself if you have access to a university's resources)--Danaman5 (talk) 23:43, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Hello everyone. I think the heart of the matter here is whether or not China's Standard Twenty-Four Histories compiled in premodern times can be considered primary sources or secondary sources. Despite their age, they are in fact secondary sources. The definition of a primary source according to our very own Wiki is "a document, recording or other source of information (paper, picture,....etc) that was created at the time being studied, by an authoritative source, usually one with direct personal knowledge of the events being described. It serves as an original source of information about the topic." This definition simply does not describe the Book of Tang, or the other Standard Histories for that matter, which are more in line with Wiki's definition of a secondary source: "a document or recording that relates or discusses information originally presented." The Twenty-Four Histories are not memoirs. They are not diaries. They are not newspapers or pamphlets. They are not written talismans placed in tombs. They are not original photographs of events. They are not courier letters, travel logues, protest signs, or long-lost drafts of political speeches. They are in fact systematically-organized, peer-scrutinized, government-sponsored histories which utilize primary sources and sometimes other secondary sources. They were written by professional historians, albeit gentrymen writing for an original reading audience of other literate gentrymen. More often than not, they were written about a previous dynastic era, one that had just preceded the contemporaneous ruling house. This alone dispells any notion that they are primary sources. There are some problems with the Standard Histories. Sometimes information in them has been proven false due to modern research or archaeological finds. But the amount of claims proven false in modern times is marginal compared to the vast majority of events, people, places, and things described in the Standard Histories. Modern historians depend on the Standard Histories for much of what they know of premodern China. This fact is admitted as such by the renowned sinologist Denis C. Twitchett (The Writing of Official History Under the T'ang, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2002, ISBN 0521522935). If someone here wishes to make an argument that use of the Standard Histories somehow violates Wikipedia:Reliable sources, then I'm afraid that argument is going to have to be based on some other grounds than claims that they are primary sources and thus cannot be used. One could point out that The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire published in 1776 by Edward Gibbon may have some inaccuracies that modern scholarship has revealed, but does that make his source suddenly a primary one which we are unable to use or cite? No. Of course not. Edward Gibbon was no more an ancient Roman citizen than Song-era historian Sima Guang was a man of the Tang Dynasty. That's the end of my input. Good night.--Pericles of Athens^Talk 03:41, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

We can consider these sources as secondary sources, but that does not make them reliable secondary sources for a Wikipedia article. I've read Gibbon's Decline and Fall and enough about the birth of modern historiography to know that we should never use that book as a source in an article about the Romans precisely because its methods are so different from what we consider legitimate history now. We could, however, recount what Gibbon said and explain how visions of Roman history have changed over time. Note also that Twitchett writes at the beginning of his book "the machinery of state historiography was still in development and underwent considerable changes during the dynasty" (4). It is precisely because of these changing methods that we need to make readers aware of the differences between sources and provide a variety of points of view. However, articles that rely solely on sources from so long ago do not take into account the development of modern historiography. Awadewit (talk) 06:30, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

As I've said for the Nth time now: if the issue is that you believe that the sources are not reliable, open/reopen the discussion in the appropriate area. The discussion last time not only did not form a consensus that conformed with your view, but had a majority view that did not. (I know you dispute that; that is something that also should be resolved over there, not here.) Until there is a consensus that there should be a policy change, nothing in the current policy indicates that sources that I cited are not reliable. Indeed, what you are proposing is the introduction of a systemic bias, in my opinion. You've made your opinion plenty clear now. What is still missing is any indication that in a discussion in the right area (i.e., in a reopened discussion about WP:RS policies) that you'll get a consensus formed in conformance with your opinion.

I still find it utterly astounding that you are advocating, effectively, the throwing away of a large body of historical works just because, in your personal opinion (but not in the consensus opinion) that they do not conform with your view of how historical works should be written. (At least, that's your formulation of your view now; previously, it was "They're too old! Throw them away!") Certainly modern Chinese historians don't approach traditional Chinese histories that way. I think I can dare suggest that you have something to learn from their approach. I would also dare suggest that you are stepping into an area outside of your area of competence. I would certainly not dare to simply, based on my view, declare a body of English, or Russian, or Turkish, or Greek historical works to be useless just because they're old. I suggest that you read and study more about the same sources that you are critiquing, and at least read the text a bit yourself (if you know Chinese) before declaring them rubbish. (If you don't know Chinese, I know that at least the even much more ancient Records of the Grand Historian has an English translation. Read it sometime.) --Nlu (talk) 07:35, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

This discussion relates to the discussions ongoing here. Would someone care to copy this article/ hook discussion there too.... until the matter is resolved? I'm sure that we could take it for main page if the matter is solved in next few days --Victuallers (talk) 11:34, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

One to One (TV series)

• ... that, in an interview on One to One, Hans Blix (pictured) stated that, had weapons inspections continued in Iraq, it would have been harder for George W. Bush to justify his 2003 invasion? (new article, self-nom) --candle•wicke 20:19, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

•   One to One (TV series) – Candlewicke (give) (tag)

This article uses only one source, essentially the episode guides from the station which airs the show. There are no independent sources. Awadewit (talk) 01:05, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. Added references from three separate brand new sources. --candle•wicke 19:04, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

• Most of this long article is a listing of the various episodes, referenced to a program guide. Of the few independent sources referenced, none of them seem to have to do with the hook. If I am missing something, please help me and point it out. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:01, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that since 2006, Irish TV programme One to One's interviewees have included a former head of UN Monitoring (pictured), a US Supreme Court judge, and a former Barack Obama advisor? —— (spelled "programme" and "US" for added Irishness)

• (= Hans Blix, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Samantha Power: angle being just "up-and-coming Irish show gets US/Int'l guests".) All sourced with only the episode guide, but this time the claims are proportionate to the source. — The Little Blue Frog (ribbit) 12:56, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Panus conchatus (history)

• ... that although it produces its spores on gills, the mushroom Panus conchatus is more closely related to species with pores?

Created by sasata (talk). Self nom at 22:46, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Panus conchatus – sasata (give) (tag)

• Ceranllama chat post 14:17, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Jordy van Loon (history)

• ... that singer Jordy van Loon was offered record deals by six different companies after he gave an unplanned performance on Mooi! Weer de Leeuw while he was glued behind a piece of wallpaper?

• Comment: moved from userspace.

Created by MacGyverMagic (talk). Self nom at 18:04, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Jordy van Loon – MacGyverMagic (give) (tag)

Note to administrators: This article's main content is 2327 bytes; more than enough for DYK. Mess around with the guy in shades all you like - don't mess around with the girl in gloves! (talk) 04:51, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Someone who is familiar with WP:BLP and articles about children should make the decision about this one. Awadewit (talk) 01:17, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

BLP exists to avoid badly sourced contentious information and to stop personal information from being widely disseminated. The article contains no contentious information and I've purposely not included personal details that could put his person or privacy in danger. All the information I've used is widely published, or at least published by reliable sources and backed up by his own personal website (so there is no effort to hide any of the information). - Mgm|^(talk) 08:12, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

My worry was that we are featuring a potentially negative hook about a child on the main page: "In an episode of Paul de Leeuw's television show Mooi! Weer de Leeuw, broadcast on April 5, 2008, van Loon was in the audience with his teacher Mr. Rol. Unbeknownst to him, Mr. Rol had sent in a wish to the program. He wanted to literally execute the Dutch idiom "iemand achter het behang plakken" (commonly used to describe an action one would like to perform on an annoying individual) and paste Jordy behind a piece of wallpaper because he sang too often in class." Awadewit (talk) 21:24, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• • If you had seen the original broadcast you would have known it was all in good humour. But that's also the reason why I didn't include that particular part in the hook. If this is a problem we can use an alternative hook about how the song raised a million euros for charity... - Mgm|^(talk) 07:39, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Cheng Yi (Tang Dynasty) (history)

• ... that the Tang Dynasty chancellor Cheng Yi died before he could depart for a tour of the northwestern borders with Huigu and Tufan, which he had volunteered for?

Created by Nlu (talk). Self nom at 16:37, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Cheng Yi (Tang Dynasty) – Nlu (give) (tag)

Note to administrators: This article's main content totals at 6443 bytes; more than enough for DYK. Mess around with the guy in shades all you like - don't mess around with the girl in gloves! (talk) 04:54, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

As with the hook about Linghu Chu, I suggest we attribute this information to the Book of Tang. Awadewit (talk) 01:25, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

I agree, as there are many sources of modern scholarship on the Tang Dynasty that are not consulted for this article. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:20, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

• I don't think you'll be able to find a modern source with sufficient coverage on Cheng Yi that doesn't simply relay the medieval information anyway. --Nlu (talk) 02:43, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• Mondern scholarship puts ancient information in context. Often archeological remains provide evidence that locations and time frames vary from the information given in ancient texts. Location names have changed over time, as have the names of individuals as more information comes to light. It is inaccurate to say that information from over 1000 years ago is accurate in any other way than to say it is an accurate rendering of the Book of Tang. Take the Christian Bible - modern research has greatly enhanced our historical understanding of the texts contained therein. —Mattisse (Talk) 13:41, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Jewish Anti-Zionist League (history)

• ... that when Zionists and the Jewish Anti-Zionist League clashed in Cairo in 1947, Egyptian police sided with the Zionists?

5x expanded by Soman (talk). Self nom at 12:10, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Jewish Anti-Zionist League – Soman (give) (tag)

I feel that this hook slightly misrepresents the situation. Both the article and the source make it clear that the Egyptians found the Communists a bigger threat than the Zionists, which is why they "sided with" the Zionists. This hook eliminates that key point. Awadewit (talk) 01:38, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

• There might be ways to rewrite the hook. However, if we are to be really exact the refs says that the police thought the communists as a bigger threat 'to public security', not just threats in general. --Soman (talk) 10:35, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

• ALT1'...that when Zionists and the Jewish Anti-Zionist League clashed in Cairo in 1947, Egyptian police sided with the Zionists because they believed the Communists to be a bigger threat to public security? Awadewit (talk) 06:39, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Thats ok, but it is confusing since it is not clarified that the League and the 'communists' are the same. My proposal is

• ALT2' "...that when Zionists and the communist Jewish Anti-Zionist League clashed in Cairo in 1947, Egyptian police sided with the Zionists because they believed the communists to be a bigger threat to public security?" --Soman (talk) 10:23, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Federal republicanism (history)

• ... that federal republicanism was the ideological prelude to cantonalism in the Glorious Revolution in Spain?

• Comment: Translated from Spanish article

Created by Madhava 1947 (talk). Self nom at 08:32, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

•   Federal republicanism – Madhava 1947 (give) (tag)

• I feel we must be careful with translated articles. Translated articles depend on a high level of competence in both the translated language and English to be accurate. Automatic translations are not accepted. Also, if the article is from another language Wikipedia, often the standards of other Wikipedias for referencing are much lower than en Wikipedia. —Mattisse (Talk) 13:35, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• Also, 1496 characters. Minimum is 1500 characters. Note that this article is pretty stubby - the explanation of the main topic is very limited (it is even marked as a stub). Awadewit (talk) 06:34, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 4

Has gone to here as the hooks are well beyond time allowed. --Victuallers (talk) 11:27, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

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Anastasios Christodoulou

• ... that Greek Cypriot academic Anastasios Christodoulou, the Foundation Secretary of Britain's Open University, was the son of a cobbler?

Created by Jack1956 (talk). Self nom at 11:26, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Anastasios Christodoulou – Jack1956 (give) (tag)

Alt ... that Greek Cypriot academic Anastasios Christodoulou was named 'Anastasios' ('Resurrection') by his parents as he was born on Easter Day? Jack1956 (talk) 11:30, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

• Currently tagged as a stub by the creator. Shubinator (talk) 00:48, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

• My mistake...I substantially expanded the article but forgot to change the rating. Now corrected. Jack1956 (talk) 22:41, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

If we were going to use the 2nd hook might we save this article for Orthodox Easter 2009 (April 19)? --Boston (talk) 01:47, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Let's. That's the only way it would become interesting enough ... I'm sure he's not the only Anastasios in the world who got that name from being born on Easter. Daniel Case (talk) 15:19, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

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