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Older nominations
Articles created/expanded on May 29
Miguel González
- ... that Chilean politician Miguel González (pictured) has been candidate in two municipal elections in Pichilemu, but has not been elected in any of them?
Created by Diego Grez (talk). Self nom at 00:21, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed #Beauty (dog) Diego Grez (talk) 01:06, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Looks satisfactory.Tibetan Prayer ᧾ 10:55, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- That's a very underwhelming hook: how many thousands of candidates for minor parties fail to get elected in local elections twice? Kevin McE (talk) 14:34, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- I doubt the Party for Democracy is a minor party, but well... I think I'll expand this a bit more later, and I'll suggest another hook. Diego Grez (talk) 20:58, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- If he was never elected to office, what has he done to deserve an article in wikipedia? --69.158.118.157 (talk) 03:16, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Agree and am creating an AfD for the article to sort it out. Khazar (talk) 15:18, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- See my larguisimous comment at the AfD ;) The guy is notable. Diego Grez (talk) 00:51, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Pls show in the article that he is notable. You need to make the article longer, anyways. It's not even 1300 characters long at this time. --69.158.118.157 (talk) 01:57, 10 June 2011 (UTC)--69.158.118.157 (talk) 01:57, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- It is 3200 chars right now, with several references. Diego Grez (talk) 17:26, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Pls show in the article that he is notable. You need to make the article longer, anyways. It's not even 1300 characters long at this time. --69.158.118.157 (talk) 01:57, 10 June 2011 (UTC)--69.158.118.157 (talk) 01:57, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- See my larguisimous comment at the AfD ;) The guy is notable. Diego Grez (talk) 00:51, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- If he was never elected to office, what has he done to deserve an article in wikipedia? --69.158.118.157 (talk) 03:16, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- I doubt the Party for Democracy is a minor party, but well... I think I'll expand this a bit more later, and I'll suggest another hook. Diego Grez (talk) 20:58, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- The article is now at 3446 characters of readable prose and has quite a number of references, but they're all in Spanish and I have no good way to determine their reliability for Wikipedia purposes. In any case, the AfD remains ongoing although with very little comment. - Dravecky (talk) 04:15, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- (1) Article is now up for deletion, I see. (2) Focus of interest missing in the hook. (3) grammatical fix needed in hook: "but has not been elected in any of them" -> "but has been elected in neither". Tony (talk) 07:26, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that Chilean politician Miguel González (pictured) has been a candidate in two municipal elections in Pichilemu, but was not elected in either of them? (for grammar) - Dravecky (talk) 08:00, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Just a note that it can't go to DYK unless it survives AFD. BarkingMoon (talk) 10:45, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- That's kinda obvious. Well, I agree the hook is kind of boring, so I propose this ALT2 ... that a recording made by Chilean politician Miguel González prompted the arrest of the mayor of Pichilemu, a councillor, and three other politicians on charges of bribery, fraud and conspiracy? Diego Grez (talk) 14:03, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2 is great! But can I ask why common dictionary terms are linked? Please see WP:MOSLINK. Tony (talk) 14:16, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Mayor and councillor link to the respective Pichilemu-centred articles, not sure about bribery and fraud. Diego Grez (talk) 14:21, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Better without those two dictionary words. If it were my DYK nom, I'd want to funnel readers to the DYK article, which surely presents those two links (councillor and mayor of P.) in a much richer context. The last thing you want is for a reader to click on one of those secondary links first – they'll never get to your hard-won DYK article then. But it's your choice. Tony (talk) 14:47, 12 June 2011 (UTC) PS I can't tick it until the prose is fixed. Buzz me if you really can't find someone closer to the topic to word-nerd it. I'd rather not, but in desperation, maybe. Tony (talk) 14:49, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Mayor and councillor link to the respective Pichilemu-centred articles, not sure about bribery and fraud. Diego Grez (talk) 14:21, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2 is great! But can I ask why common dictionary terms are linked? Please see WP:MOSLINK. Tony (talk) 14:16, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- That's kinda obvious. Well, I agree the hook is kind of boring, so I propose this ALT2 ... that a recording made by Chilean politician Miguel González prompted the arrest of the mayor of Pichilemu, a councillor, and three other politicians on charges of bribery, fraud and conspiracy? Diego Grez (talk) 14:03, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- That's a very underwhelming hook: how many thousands of candidates for minor parties fail to get elected in local elections twice? Kevin McE (talk) 14:34, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Women in Bahrain
- ... that Bahrain's women (example pictured) became enfranchised after constitutional changes in 2002?
Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 07:15, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- I reviewed the article List of common English usage misconceptions - AnakngAraw (talk) 13:12, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- I also reviewed the article St Giles' Church, Ickenham. - AnakngAraw (talk) 13:28, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- Also reviewed The Lodger (opera). - AnakngAraw (talk) 13:50, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the Royal University for Women is the first private and international university for Bahrain's women (example pictured)? - AnakngAraw (talk) 15:42, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1 better, I think, but needs to be clarified. I don't supposes it's the first such univ. for women in the whole Arab world, is it? Possibly on the Arabian peninsula? I'm trying to find the biggest honest claim that can be phrased in.
So there are public universities for women? And there are domestic (non-international) universities there for women?
Ref 1, to justify a fairly sweeping statement, is this. Is it reliable? I'm a bit nervous about it; who's the publisher? Doesn't seem to be up-front about it. Is it for tourists? Tony (talk) 14:53, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- Is there a ref besides the uni itself that supports this? Left note at creator's page.BarkingMoon (talk) 21:00, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Response to Tony: honestly I have no idea. But can you assist? - AnakngAraw (talk) 23:35, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Response to Barkingmoon: That's all I have right now. Can you also assist. Assistance from others welcome. Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 23:35, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
I'm requesting a second opinion on this one. BarkingMoon (talk) 10:46, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Anakng, I'm sorry to say I agree with Tony and Barking that the references here need some serious work before this could pass. #2 is a good reference, but the others appear to not be reliable secondary sources, unless I'm misunderstanding who the "kwintessential" website is, for example. Perhaps you might check scholarly databases for more information, the CIA world fact book, etc. Khazar (talk) 13:24, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'm very keen to see a DYK about women's issues in the Arab world. If this one is not a suitable DYK article, can the nominator come up with another? Tony (talk) 07:27, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 2
List of nutrition guides, History of USDA nutrition guides
- ... that one historical USDA nutrition guide listed butter (pictured) as a basic food group, while France currently uses more than two dozen different nutrition guides?
- Comment: Both articles were spliced from MyPlate by Calliopejen1 on June 3, MyPlate being newly created by 76.105.176.44 on June 2. 76.105.176.44 did the bulk of the expansion on all three articles.
Created by 76.105.176.44 (talk). Self nom at 06:52, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that in one historical USDA nutrition guide, butter was considered a basic food group?
- ALT2: ... that Austria makes room for sausage in their nutrition guide, while Japan includes seaweed and Italy uses biscotti?
the guides one is okay but the USDA one has paragraphs unreferenced. Every para must have at least one ref. Also, it'd be nice to put one or more project tags on the talk page. BarkingMoon (talk) 18:57, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Appropriate WikiProject tags applied, added categories to the USDA guides article. - Dravecky (talk) 04:40, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- HOOK is quite good, but please unlink "France"; if I had my way, all but the DYK article would be unlinked, to funnel the readers to the article we've worked on for exposure on the main page; there, a plethora of links can be pursed by a reader in context.
ARTICLE: overlinked anyway. Please don't link common terms such as "advice" and "American". Education in the United States might be a useful link if you could section-link it. Or find a more specific article-target? Tony (talk) 07:53, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- These would be much better split: "... that one historical USDA nutrition guide listed butter (pictured) as a basic food group? and ".... France currently uses more than two dozen different nutrition guides?" are short, punchy and likely to draw in many readers. Combined, they're marginally related, confusing, and overlong. - Dravecky (talk) 09:58, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- I think this is enough for two entries, too, I just thought that was asking for too much. 76.105.176.44 (talk) 21:01, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- USDA one still missing refs.BarkingMoon (talk) 10:49, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- If you were referring to the "other foods" part of the Basic Four, it came from the same source as the previous graf. I copied the cite. 76.105.176.44 (talk) 21:01, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- The List of nutrition guides article is currently waiting for several images from the Files for upload page, if someone could help with that. 76.105.176.44 (talk) 21:25, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Sadiq al-Ahmar
- ... that Sadiq al-Ahmar, a leader of rebel tribesmen in the 2011 Yemeni uprising, earned a small aircraft pilot's licence in 1987 while studying in the United States?
Created by Lothar von Richthofen (talk). Self nom at 18:59, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 01:12, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Article relies entirely on a single source, and while Al Jazeera English is pretty reliable, it's not sufficient for a BLP heading to the Main Page. Notified article creator. cmadler (talk) 20:03, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Alright, I'll set about pulling together more sources. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 21:56, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Still single-sourced. Any thoughts on when this might be made ready for promotion? - Dravecky (talk) 05:08, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- Alright, I'll set about pulling together more sources. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 21:56, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 3
Cuisine of Asunción
- ... that the typical formal restaurant (in Asunción, Paraguay) is the parillada, which specializes in grilled meat served with boiled manioc?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 13:41, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Both the hook and the article sentence should be rephrased, because they have been taken verbatim from the source.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 14:21, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
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- Here is an ALT1 Hook ... that in Asunción, a special dish of the Tegucigalpa, served in parillada, an upscale restaurant, is made of grilled meat served with manioc?--Nvvchar. 02:59, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, is there confusion with the previous nom? (Tegucigalpa is in Honduras, not Paraguay.) I think this hook doesn't work well. Readers shouldn't have to divert to a secondary link to find the focus of interest. Maybe: ... a boiled woody plant called "manioc" ... might be punchier? Tony (talk) 09:02, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Dux de Lux
- ... that Charles Chilton, the first rector to be appointed in Australasia, lived in Llanmaes (pictured)?
Created by Schwede66 (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 03:47, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Kölnbrein Dam
Good to go! There is actually a village called Llanmaes not more than 20 miles from where I live.Tibetan Prayer ᧾ 17:10, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- We should specify university rector: I strongly suspect that there were rectors of ecclesiastical parishes before 1921 in Australia, and even if there were not, it will avoid confusion. Link could usefully be tweaked too, to Rector#Academic_rectors_in_Australia. Given that the blurb refers to a different country, we should let the reader know what country Llanmaes is in (It might save Tibetan Prayer a fruitless 40 mile round trip to investigate him :@) ) (per WP:DYKAR C3. Should we specify that Lanmaes was the name of a house, not of a town? Kevin McE (talk) 18:59, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Charles Chilton, the first university rector to be appointed in Australasia, lived in a Christchurch, New Zealand house named Llanmaes (pictured)? --Rosiestep (talk) 20:49, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry to be a wet blanket: this is not a good DYK hook. The rules require interest and punchiness. Who cares where he lived? I'll be pilloried for saying so, but this scores 2 out of 10 on the DYK Lame Index. I'll revisit tomorrow to see whether you've found something interesting to add from the article. Tony (talk) 09:20, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Dux de Lux, presently known as a bar, was originally called Llanmaes and at one time was the home of zoologist Charles Chilton and for many years was also the centre for the University of Canterbury's Student Association?Shearonink (talk) 04:17, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that the building Dux de Lux occupies housed the student union of the University of Canterbury for four decades? (don't summarize, hook) - Dravecky (talk) 07:30, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT4: ... that the bar & restaurant Dux de Lux was once the home of zoologist Charles Chilton?Shearonink (talk) 13:52, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Comment: I like ALT4 the best. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:34, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 4
Lament for Ur, Ekur
... that the Lament for Ur describes the fall of Ekur and has similarities to modern scenes reported in present day Iraq (soldiers on the Ziggurat of Ur pictured), the Middle East and Africa?
Lament for Ur 5x expanded, Ekur created by User:Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 10:38, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
I suggest an alternate hook. I read the original for the hook in Lament for Ur, and that statement is much weaker, and simply an aside opinion rather than a true comparsion. The article itself says that the Lament can apply to many periods of the area's history... and that the aspects of war have not changed.
- ALT1: ... that the Lament for Ur describing the fall of Ekur can apply to many periods of the area's history ... and that the aspects of war have not changed (United States soldiers on the Ziggurat of Ur pictured)? Thelmadatter (talk) 20:58, 11 June 2011 (UTC)#
- Loving it! Great advice. Hook changed as suggested. Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 21:43, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Restored original thread. ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 14:49, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Returned. First part reads fine if separated, but I see no clear relation between the two parts of ALT1 (aspects of war reads too general and is unrelated to Ur), and between the hook and its picture. Materialscientist (talk) 00:17, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Fuerte San Miguel (Uruguay)
- ... that in one of Uruguay's hill slopes near Fuerte San Miguel, there is an outpost which includes a wall and small window, but otherwise appears natural, like a cave or animal shelter?
Created by Tibetan Prayer (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 03:21, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Ghana National Petroleum Corporation
- Added an img.--Nvvchar. 06:31, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- See additional discussion at WT:DYK#Query. I propose ALT1 ... that one outpost of Uruguay's Fuerte San Miguel (pictured) has a small window constructed to look like a cave or an animal burrow? Thanks, cmadler (talk) 18:29, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Two things. (I)Have the Citation needed tags on the article been addressed, three are present; however, one appears to have the citation included.(II)Does the foreign language source state that whether the natural appearance was constructed with that in mind as the hook states, or does it just appear that way to an observer? The article does not make the distinction as the hook does. Calmer Waters 05:18, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- Comment: This is the original sentence, mostly Spanish, but a bit of Catalan, too, from a book now in the public domain: "En una de las laderas del cerro, cubierto por viva vegetación, se halla lo que podemos llamar un puesto avanzado; su forma es de lo más curioso: en ella nada revela el trabajo del hombre, y sí sólo uno de los lados que mira hacia la parte del territorio oriental, que lo forma un muro con una pequeña ventanilla, es lo que hace ver que allí se ha posado la mano del hombre; su entrada es pequeña, más bien semejaría una cueva ó refugio de animales, que no una abertura, en su mayor parte natural, destinada al fin primordial." My translation skills are not expert, but it should be easy enough to have someone else review it who is expert. That said, I don't think the source states that the outpost was constructed with that in mind, rather that it "resembles" (semejaría) a cave or animal burrow. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:27, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Mangrove Pitta, Blue-winged Pitta
- ... that the Mangrove Pitta can be told apart from the Blue-winged Pitta (pictured) by its more slurred call?
- Comment: nice image, some twitcher hook reminds me of something as esoteric as african and european swallows carrying coconuts...Casliber (talk · contribs) 15:06, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
5x expanded by Casliber (talk), BarkingMoon (talk). Self nom at 15:06, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- Mangrove Pitta expanded from 270 to 1851 (6.8x), Blue-winged Pitta from 339 to 1856 (5.4k) , BarkingMoon (talk) 15:17, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
reviewed The Wolfgang Press Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:10, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Confirm prose size expansion for both articles, which are handsome and useful contributions to Wikipedia. Suggest alt hook :
- Alt1
- ... that the Mangrove Pitta can be told apart from the Blue-winged Pitta (pictured) by its heavier bill and slurred call "wieuw-wieuw"?
- This would be closer to what the cited source says. betsythedevine (talk) 10:09, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Daphne Oseña-Paez
- ... that Filipina TV host Daphne Oseña-Paez (pictured) got her big break by waiting for a network executive in the ABS-CBN parking lot to show him a TV program that she filmed, shot, and edited herself?
Created by Noraft (talk). Self nom at 03:24, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
ALT: ... that Filipina TV host Daphne Oseña-Paez (pictured) was discovered after showing a program that she filmed, shot, and edited herself to a a network executive in the ABS-CBN parking lot?
Please note this article was moved from ɳorɑfʈ Talk!'s userspace on 6/4/11
Date, length and hook check out. The hook is appropriately cited, and the photo is appropriately licensed. Just a note, removed from DKY qualifications - the history of this article is rather convoluted, presumably due to the move from a general sandbox. Someone looking for the first version of this article, might be rather confused. Again, just a comment, nothing that disqualifies the article from being a valid DYK hook. I prefer the original proposed hook, rather than the ALT. Canada Hky (talk) 15:48, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Chris Smith (footballer born 1981)
- ... that association footballer Chris Smith (pictured), just months after signing for York City, was assaulted by a gang in an attack while on a night out?
5x expanded by Mattythewhite (talk). Self nom at 03:19, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- suggest remove "and yet to make his senior debut" and unprovoked? it does say the police think it could be Victuallers (talk) 17:22, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- Done as suggested. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:39, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- Dislike the phrase, but those unfamiliar with York City FC, we should de-pipe association football. Kevin McE (talk) 20:48, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- Done. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:40, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- I hate to do this but "on a night out", is that universal? I get it totally but do our US friends get that? I'd be 100% happy if someone says "yes, now shut up!".... ! The Rambling Man (talk) 19:46, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- US editor opinion: "on a night out" is fine. It's not the phrase I would use, but it's certainly understandable. However, this doesn't strike me as a particularly interesting hook; perhaps there's something else that could be used? Thanks, cmadler (talk) 18:50, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- I hate to do this but "on a night out", is that universal? I get it totally but do our US friends get that? I'd be 100% happy if someone says "yes, now shut up!".... ! The Rambling Man (talk) 19:46, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Done. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:40, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Claude Le Péron
- ... that since Jean-Jacques Goldman's last tour in 2002, his former bassist Claude Le Péron has continued to tour with his former guitarist, Michael Jones?
Created by Daskill (talk). Self nom at 00:43, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Expansion time and character count check out. Reference accepted in good faith. However, the Biography section is almost entirely unreferenced, and Myspace is unreliable. More references for the bio section are needed. Albacore (talk) 19:50, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- Initially translated from the French WP article of the same name. Found the sources to support what was written. Sources are difficult to find, especially since most potential sources are in French. Daskill (talk) 22:48, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Caesium chloride
- ... that one of the worst radiation accidents occurred when thieves broke a steel container with about 90 grams of radioactive caesium chloride (example pictured)?
- Comment: see the last paragraph of the article. The image is very dull, thus adding it just in case of emergency with leads. I have reviewed HD 154672 b, HD 154672, WASP-24b, WASP-24 and a few other articles above. Materialscientist (talk) 12:11, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 12:11, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- Fixed part of the hook. However, I think ignorant would be best left out. Keeps it shorter and simpler, and having ignorant may not be necessary to understand the hook. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:34, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- I removed the word "ignorant", ref hook is fine and a very well organised article Victuallers (talk) 17:15, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- I see 13 with higher fatality levels than this at Nuclear and radiation accidents by country: how are we defining "one of the worst"? Kevin McE (talk) 20:55, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. I suggest polishing the hook before promoting. The sources confirm "one of the worst", and in this area 10 others would still make it one of the worst because of other circumstances (100,000+ people affected because the accident was identified at a late stage). To clarify, I would replace "radiation" with "radiation spill" (many others were radiation exposure accidents, that is the source was not spread around). I think removing "ignorant" alters the meaning because those two individuals were simply attracted by the unusual steel enclosure; they had no idea what did they steal and try to open (according to the cited sources). The current hook might be taken as if they stole it to intentionally spread radiation. Materialscientist (talk) 00:11, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thus
- ALT1... that one of the worst radiation spill accidents occurred when ignorant thieves broke a steel container with about 90 grams of radioactive caesium chloride (example pictured)? Materialscientist (talk) 01:37, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 5
A Banda Mais Bonita Da Cidade
- ...
that the Brazilian band A Banda Mais Bonita Da Cidade was little known until one of their videos became a viral hit, gaining them international media attention?
5x expanded by Armadillopteryx (talk). Nominated by Qrsdogg (talk) at 15:46, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Coloniatherium
- Note: Article is currently at AfD. Qrsdogg (talk) 15:46, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Note: I like the original hook. Below I suggest one that is similar, but slightly shorter. I think it's a dash catchier. Also, as long as the article gets out of AfD, I'm going to make a very minor change its title (by changing "Da" to "da"). Armadillopteryxtalk 06:14, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Brazilian band A Banda Mais Bonita da Cidade was little known until one of its music videos went viral, attracting international media attention?
- Note: The article is now out of AfD with the name A Banda Mais Bonita da Cidade. I've changed the appropriate letter in ALT1 above to reflect this.
Sampagitang Walang Bango
- ... that the novel Sampagitang Walang Bango was written when a "highly westernized middle and upper classes" of Filipinos were beginning to establish themselves in Philippine society?
Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 03:01, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Article has 1,786 characters with spaces/1,517 characters without spaces.
- The other article I reviewed was Accidentalism and catastrophism. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:10, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
All checks out, ready to go. Harrison49 (talk) 14:43, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Article is assessed as a stub, and according to edit histories, the article has not been improved since that assessment. Further expansion is needed. cmadler (talk) 18:58, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- The character count is indicated above. It shouldn't have been assessed as a stub. - AnakngAraw (talk) 22:27, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Length, even of readable prose, is not the sole determinant of whether an article is a stub (see the Croughton-London rule of stubs). In this case, a fairly active editor, who can be assumed to know what he's doing, decided that this article was a stub. Personally, I'd put this article near the borderline between stub-class and start-class, and I think with just a bit of further expansion, it can be reassessed to start-class. cmadler (talk) 12:39, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- Expanded further as much as I can, with available sources online. - AnakngAraw (talk) 23:44, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- Length, even of readable prose, is not the sole determinant of whether an article is a stub (see the Croughton-London rule of stubs). In this case, a fairly active editor, who can be assumed to know what he's doing, decided that this article was a stub. Personally, I'd put this article near the borderline between stub-class and start-class, and I think with just a bit of further expansion, it can be reassessed to start-class. cmadler (talk) 12:39, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Faith and Freedom Coalition
- ... that Ralph E. Reed, Jr. started the Faith and Freedom Coalition to help American evangelical voters align with the Tea Party movement?
- ALT1:... that the Faith and Freedom Coalition hosted a meeting with speeches given by Newt Gingrich, Tim Pawlenty, Mitt Romney, Michele Bachmann, Rick Santorum, Ron Paul, Haley Barbour and Donald Trump?
Created by NYyankees51 (talk), Binksternet (talk). Nominated by Binksternet (talk) at 15:25, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Cuisine of Tegucigalpa: [1] Binksternet (talk) 15:32, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- The first hook has only slight mention of the TEA Party. Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:26, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- The second hook should say where and when the meeting occurred? Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:24, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- Regarding the alternate hook: Its 'hookiness' is increased if the details are left out. Besides, the hook with its laundry list of politician's names is already very long. I had to trim a few names from it to make it fit. For the first hook, yes, there is only slight mention of the Tea Party. Is that a problem? Binksternet (talk) 22:39, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- It seems to me if the TEA Party is mentioned in the hook, there should be more on the TEA Party in the article. I think the city of the speech would increase interest, but you may lack space to include it. Billy Hathorn (talk) 13:31, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Billy Hathorn (talk) 13:40, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Both hooks are exceedingly promotional in nature. As this sort of this has come under great scrutiny of late, perhaps a hook more neutral in political character could be found? - Dravecky (talk) 05:13, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- Like maybe "did you know their address is ____? The whole organization is political. The second hook lists politicians who spoke at a meeting... it could hardly be drier or more neutral. Nothing there uses hyperbole or peacock words. Binksternet (talk) 00:03, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
St Martin's Church, Ruislip
- ... that Thomas Bettz left £26 13s and 4d in his will in 1463 to help pay for the repair of the bells of St Martin's Church?
Created by Harrison49 (talk). Self nom at 21:20, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Red-cheeked Parrot
Length, date verified. Hook's offline ref accepted AGF. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:32, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that Thomas Bettz left £26 13s 4d in his will in 1463 to help pay for the repair of the bells of St Martin's Church? Mjroots (talk) 06:56, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- Units check.
- It says "£26 13s 4D". The symbol for an old penny should be changed from 'D' to 'd'.
- Most readers don't know shillings and old pence. They will be helped if it said: '£26 13s 4d (£26.746)'
- Lightmouse (talk) 12:53, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- I like the alt, perhaps a conversion could be added or it could just be something for people to investigate for themselves. Harrison49 (talk) 16:53, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'd be opposed to the conversion, which should be £26.66 if it were used, but the unfamiliar £sd format should lead to readers thinking "Huh?! What's that?" and clicking the link, thus enhancing their learning experience. Mjroots (talk) 14:47, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- I agree and would like to see ALT1 used. Harrison49 (talk) 17:31, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'd be opposed to the conversion, which should be £26.66 if it were used, but the unfamiliar £sd format should lead to readers thinking "Huh?! What's that?" and clicking the link, thus enhancing their learning experience. Mjroots (talk) 14:47, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Red-cheeked Parrot
- ... that there are 16 subspecies of the Red-cheeked Parrot (pictured)?
- Red-cheeked parrott expanded from 309 to 2469 (8x) BarkingMoon (talk) 20:43, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed Wildlife of Djibouti BarkingMoon (talk) 20:43, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
5x expanded by Casliber (talk), BarkingMoon (talk). Self nom at 16:39, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Ready to go. Harrison49 (talk) 21:22, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
SS Thuringia (1922)
- ... that an apprentice who served on board Empire Deben was the captain of Canberra during the Falklands War?
Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 04:21, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Hook is fine, just see if you can find an image. Would benefit the article also. — Legolas (talk2me) 06:53, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'm about to go out for the day, but this image from the source used for ref #2 is presumably a PD image, dating from 1923-30. Mjroots (talk) 08:27, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- Units check. Horsepower values need converting. The units in the infobox are better in symbolic or abbreviated form. I've done it. Lightmouse (talk) 14:04, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Deiva Magan (1969 film)
- ... that Deiva Magan (1969) was the first film from south India to be submitted by India in contest for the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film?
Created by Vensatry (talk). Self nom at 14:27, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- hook modified --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 02:44, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Most of the article lacks any citations.--White Shadows Stuck in square one 02:44, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
The article has a sufficient number and placement of citations (the plot section need not be cited, unless it's the source of the hook fact, per Wikipedia standards for works of fiction) but they're either badly formatted or they don't appear to say what the article claims. This is true of the hook fact where the book cited lists no page number and the snippet visible in Google Books does not appear to contain text backing this claim. The other citation, to a news article, lists the movie but doesn't state what the hook fact claims. It says "[T]he selection panel has also chosen from regional cinema. Among them are Deivamagan (A.C. Thirulogachandar, 1969); [...]" and goes on to list other films. While it is the first example listed, the division is between big budget and regional films and only claims to list examples, not include a complete listing. Either needs better sourcing or a new hook fact (or both). - Dravecky (talk) 05:28, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- The news article says "Most of the films that are sent in the past are mainly from Bollywood (Hindi and Urdu), while a few films from regional cinema were also chosen. It actually starts with Deiva Magan (1969) followed by Swathi Muthyam (1986)". The fact here is only Hindi, Urdu and Bengali films were sent before 1969. The south Indian film industry comprises of Tamil, Telugu, Kannada and Malayalam, which makes it clear that Deiva Magan is the first among regional films (other than Hindi, Urdu and Bengali). Also one film each from Telugu and Malayalam were sent in 1986 and 1997 respectively. None of the Kannada films have been sent so far. In fact, Tamil films are next only to Hindi to be sent for the maximum number of times of which Deiva Magan was the first. Many sources say that it's the first Tamil film to be sent, but still I'm trying to find a proper source for the hook fact". --Commander (Ping Me) 14:59, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 6
Record Plant
- ...
that the Sausalito Record Plant (pictured) built a psychedelic recording studio for Sly Stone which included a bedroom entered through a giant pair of lips?
- Reviewed: Go Simpsonic with The Simpsons ([2])
- Comment: Note that there is an outstanding move request to take the article title from Record Plant Studios to Record Plant; a name I think is more appropriate. This DYK entry name assumes a successful move.
- Ah, the move has been made successfully. Thank you to Andrewa! Binksternet (talk) 07:29, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
5x expanded by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 22:00, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
5x prose expansion checks out, but the source doesn't call the studio "psychedelic" nor do they call it a "bedroom", even though that might be true. What about ALT1:
"... that the Record Plant recording studio in Sausalito built a customized loft bed for Sly Stone, accessible only through a giant pair of red lips?"Viriditas (talk) 12:06, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- The Heather Johnson piece says "The Pit" had "psychedelic murals and embroidery added to the very 1970s vibe", so psychedelic is supported by one good source. Bob Welch describes it on a raw text dump webpage as "a couple of bedrooms" but I question the reliability of this source. San Francisco magazine is a good source; it says "a living space for Sly, with a loft bed that he could reach only by climbing through a huge pair of red upholstered lips". I think loft bed is a good description for the hook, better than bedroom. It remains true the the Record Plant owners built the whole recording studio room called "The Pit" for Sly Stone, and your addition is good, the loft bed in there with its giant red lips. I want to emphasize that the the studio was the primary construction. Perhaps we can mix your hook with mine, to make ALT2:
... that the Sausalito Record Plant (pictured) built a psychedelic recording studio for Sly Stone which included a loft bed entered through a giant pair of red lips?Binksternet (talk) 16:54, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- The "built a psychedelic recording studio" part is still confusing to me. What is a psychedelic recording studio? Will most of our readers even understand that phrase? Keep your audience in mind. You also don't need to say that, because by definition, any studio that has a room that is accessible only through a giant pair of padded red lips is psychedelic. Sometimes, less is more, and when it comes to DYK, the shorter and punchier, the better. Viriditas (talk) 09:36, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- How about ALT3:
... that the Sausalito Record Plant (pictured) built a recording studio for Sly Stone which included a loft bed entered through a giant pair of red lips?Binksternet (talk) 12:16, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- You can also shorten the hook by eliminating "which included"; use "with" instead. Saying that the loft bed is "entered through" sounds weird. Play around with it. Try something like ALT4: ...
that the Sausalito Record Plant (pictured) built a recording studio for Sly Stone with a giant pair of red cushioned lips leading to a room with a loft bed?Viriditas (talk) 13:26, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Without "room", it would be better, I think: ALT5:
... that the Sausalito Record Plant (pictured) built a recording studio for Sly Stone with a giant pair of red cushioned lips leading to a loft bed?Binksternet (talk) 22:10, 13 June 2011 (UTC)- I was about to pass this when I decided to verify it for a second time, just to be sure. Journalist Paul Liberatore in the Marin Independent Journal confirms the bedroom part but contradicts the claim made by Jim Welte.[3] Now either Liberatore or Welte is wrong. Liberatore reports that the lips were built either by or for Rick James, not Sly Stone. Since we have two sources that contradict each other (which isn't all that unusual) we need to make a decision: 1) Find a third source that agrees with one of the first two and go with it, or 2) change the DYK so that it reflects only the material agreed upon in both sources, namely that there was a doorway fitted with red lips at the Sausalito Record Plant. Viriditas (talk) 03:41, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- I considered the Heather Johnson book to be a better source than the Liberatore newspaper article or the Welte magazine article, and Johnson says the "bright red upholstered lips" were installed for Sly Stone's loft bed as a parody of Stone's big smile. However, you are absolutely correct that at least one of the three sources must be wrong.
Here's a crazy thought: how about a completely new hook? The article is absolutely full of possibilities. ALT6: ... that the Sausalito Record Plant (pictured) served for a time as the residence for Rick James who slept in a conference room built with a waterbed floor? Binksternet (talk) 13:52, 14 June 2011 (UTC)ALT6 verified in Johnson (2006).[4] Inline source added.[5] Good to go. Viriditas (talk) 04:33, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- I considered the Heather Johnson book to be a better source than the Liberatore newspaper article or the Welte magazine article, and Johnson says the "bright red upholstered lips" were installed for Sly Stone's loft bed as a parody of Stone's big smile. However, you are absolutely correct that at least one of the three sources must be wrong.
- I was about to pass this when I decided to verify it for a second time, just to be sure. Journalist Paul Liberatore in the Marin Independent Journal confirms the bedroom part but contradicts the claim made by Jim Welte.[3] Now either Liberatore or Welte is wrong. Liberatore reports that the lips were built either by or for Rick James, not Sly Stone. Since we have two sources that contradict each other (which isn't all that unusual) we need to make a decision: 1) Find a third source that agrees with one of the first two and go with it, or 2) change the DYK so that it reflects only the material agreed upon in both sources, namely that there was a doorway fitted with red lips at the Sausalito Record Plant. Viriditas (talk) 03:41, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- You can also shorten the hook by eliminating "which included"; use "with" instead. Saying that the loft bed is "entered through" sounds weird. Play around with it. Try something like ALT4: ...
- How about ALT3:
- The Heather Johnson piece says "The Pit" had "psychedelic murals and embroidery added to the very 1970s vibe", so psychedelic is supported by one good source. Bob Welch describes it on a raw text dump webpage as "a couple of bedrooms" but I question the reliability of this source. San Francisco magazine is a good source; it says "a living space for Sly, with a loft bed that he could reach only by climbing through a huge pair of red upholstered lips". I think loft bed is a good description for the hook, better than bedroom. It remains true the the Record Plant owners built the whole recording studio room called "The Pit" for Sly Stone, and your addition is good, the loft bed in there with its giant red lips. I want to emphasize that the the studio was the primary construction. Perhaps we can mix your hook with mine, to make ALT2:
Kanak people
- ... that from the time of their migration from New Guinea, the homeland of Kanak people (pictured) has been New Caledonia?
Created by Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 10:21, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Reveiwed:Richard MacDonald. Note that this article was only moved into the mainspace on June 6. Not May 31.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:29, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Good to see this article - I am surprised that there has not been an article about the indigenous New Caledonians until now. However:
- "They are citizens of New Caledonia, an overseas territory of France" - is there such a thing, legally, as "citizenship of New Caledonia"? (As opposed to having French citizenship and being domiciled in NC). If the French national law, NC's territorial law, or the Nouméa Accord of 1998 provide for such a legal concept, please give an appropriate reference!
- "New Caledonia or La Grande Terre being the second largest island in the Pacific Sea" - what is "the Pacific Sea"? If it's the entire Pacific Ocean, then, as per the List of islands by area, it is hard for it to be the second largest, what with all of the 4 main Japanese islands and 2 NZ islands being bigger...
- Now, the statement in the hook, "from the time of their migration from Papua New Guinea, the homeland of Kanak people has been New Caledonia", is probably correct, but is not it correct mostly because it's tautological? It's like saying that the homeland of the French Canadian has been Canada since the time when their ancestors came from France. Can you reword this somehow, emphasizing non-trivial information - e.g., "the ancestors of the Kanaks are thought to have come to NC from NG some XXX thousand years ago"? -- Vmenkov (talk) 02:46, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review. As regards the first observation, it is probably wrongly worded. I intend changing it to "They are New Caledonians under the overseas territory of France". I have made amends in the text to the Pacific Sea issue. I have now corrected it to "Southwest Pacific Ocean" (as per reference 10 page 24). Your suggestion for the alt hook is nice. I now propose this ALT1 Hook ... that the ancestors of the Kanak people (pictured) are thought to have come to New Caledonia from Papua New Guinea?--Nvvchar. 15:11, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- I have a caution for this. New Guinea is the name of an island. Papua New Guinea is the name of a country, whose territory consists of about half of the island of New Guinea, and a good number of other islands. The country has only existed for a few decades (it came into being long after the Kanak ancestors left). Do you mean they came from the island? If so, use its name. Do you mean they came from the cluster of islands that is now PNG? If so, say so. I agree that it's a cool article concept, but the hook needs clarity.--Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 15:56, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
It means Papua New Guinea or the island of New Guinea. Obviously it wans't split as two countries back then so "New Guinea" would be politically correct. Looks fine to me.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:37, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- I think that ALT1, with NG instead of PNG sounds fine. By the way, it would be nice (even though not required) to have a link to a serious anthropology/archaelogy study discussing the first settlement of NC, and later contacts (e.g., mentioning the Lapita Culture), in addition to the two, uhem, "tertiary" sources that are currently used as references for this hook. Try to find something scholarly and interesting on Google Books or Google Scholar, maybe? -- Vmenkov ([[User talk:Vmenkov|talk]
- ALT2 Hook ... that the ancestors of the Kanak people (pictured) are thought to have come to New Caledonia from New Guinea? -- Vmenkov (talk) 19:22, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the changes. Good to go now, with the ALT2 hook. (I still wonder how "Southwest Pacific Ocean" is defined so that it includes NC but neither of the two main islands of NZ, so that NC becomes "the second largest island" in that body of water... after New Britain, I guess? ... but it is not critical). -- Vmenkov (talk) 19:22, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Wizards & Warriors X: The Fortress of Fear
- ... that some video gaming magazines who reviewed the Game Boy video game Wizards & Warriors X: The Fortress of Fear asked what happened to the intermediate chapters in the series?
5x expanded by MuZemike (talk). Self nom at 04:08, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Judith Trim. –MuZemike 04:18, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Note: I had to say "intermediate chapters", as I have two sources which say two different things at two different times, both of which are technically correct. Also, not the best hook in the world, but the title was the most interesting part of the game which I could find. –MuZemike 04:08, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Shin-kicking
- ... that success in the sport of Shin-kicking requires the ability to endure pain?
Created by Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 22:58, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Jake Seamer Qrsdogg (talk) 22:58, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 00:57, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
James Bremer
- ... that James Bremer (pictured), commander-in-chief of British forces in the First Anglo-Chinese War, took formal possession of Hong Kong Island for the United Kingdom at Possession Point?
5x expanded by Spellcast (talk). Self nom at 00:22, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Size, date and reference all check out. Good to go. Benea (talk) 01:54, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Richard Cleveland Drew
- ... that Judge Richard Cleveland Drew (pictured) and his son, Harmon Caldwell Drew, were the first father/son combination to serve on the state appeal court in Louisiana?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 22:16, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Work cited for the fact only mentions that they were the first father-son combo on the Court of Appeals (it mentions the district court, but doesn't say they were the first); can't approve as written—would recommend changing the text and hook or finding another cite.--Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 17:42, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Faith and Freedom Coalition
- Change made. Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:42, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Hands Across Hawthorne
![Hands Across Hawthorne Panorama](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Hands_Across_Hawthorne_Panorama.jpg/100px-Hands_Across_Hawthorne_Panorama.jpg)
- ... that in May 2011 more than 4,000 people linked hands across Portland, Oregon's Hawthorne Bridge (pictured) for the Hands Across Hawthorne rally in response to an assault on a gay couple?
Created by Another Believer (talk). Self nom at 21:32, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
I found the article sourced as stating that folks gathered to hold hands, and "more 4,000 people" attended the ralley, but not specifically that all 4,000 linked hands. Perhaps a quibble, but fixable. Just Out states "More than 4,000 people of all ages and identities gathered in the rain Sunday night to hold hands on the Hawthorne Bridge." and LGBTQ Nation states "An estimated 4000 Portland area residents on Sunday gathered in the rain to hold hands on the Hawthorne Bridge". Included in the article, so that readers need not make a jump in logic, it shold do fine. Also, nominator needs to review one. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 01:50, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- How about the following: ... that in May 2011 more than 4,000 people gathered to join hands across Portland, Oregon's Hawthorne Bridge for the Hands Across Hawthorne rally in response to an assault on a gay couple? --Another Believer (Talk) 15:04, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
This hook looks good, date and length are good as well. Actually, this looks ready for a Good Article nomination. You might also think about adding the photo to this nomination so this can appear at the top of the set. Once you've reviewed one, or assured us that this is one of your first five nominations (which exempts you from the requirement), this is good to go. Feel free to change my question mark to a tick at that point without checking with me.
- I think an image might be too wide for the Main Page, but thanks for the suggestion nonetheless! --Another Believer (Talk) 23:02, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Adding image, this can be edited or cropped by someone experienced in photoediting. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:38, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- I think an image might be too wide for the Main Page, but thanks for the suggestion nonetheless! --Another Believer (Talk) 23:02, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that more than 4,000 people rallied in Portland, Oregon, for Hands Across Hawthorne in response to an assault on a gay couple? (shorter, punchier) - Dravecky (talk) 05:38, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Ionian University of Smyrna
- ... that the management of the Ionian University of Smyrna, (pictured) in Izmir, Turkey, was undertaken by mathematician Constantin Carathéodory, under the instructions of the Greek government?
Created by Alexikoua (talk). Self nom at 19:53, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Charles Luney
length etc. checks out. I'm not sure about the hook though.. it doesn't necessarily pull me in, and it lacks the context of the Greco-Turkish War. Perhaps:
- ALT1: ... the Ionian University of Smyrna (pictured), established in Turkey by Greece during the occupation of Smyrna, was never opened due to latter's defeat in the Greco-Turkish War
Thoughts? --Errant (chat!) 10:42, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Indeed, alt hook sounds more catchy with the G-T War inside.Alexikoua (talk) 19:35, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
John Law Hume
- ... that after John Law Hume, violinist on the RMS Titanic, was lost in the disaster, his family were sent an invoice for his uniform?
Created by Marek69 (talk). Self nom at 17:24, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Everything seems OK, except a little detail: when you write text, colon, and a quote below, the reference goes at the end of the quote, not after the colon. Cambalachero (talk) 18:23, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for pointing this out Cambalachero, I think I've fixed it now. Kind Regards -- Marek.69 talk 18:32, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Good to go Cambalachero (talk) 02:22, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that two weeks after John Law Hume, violinist on the RMS Titanic, was lost in the disaster, his family were asked to settle the bill for his uniform?
- I reworded the original text as an alternative hook. -- Marek.69 talk 14:52, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that two weeks after the RMS Titanic went down, the family of John Law Hume, one of the ship's violinists, were asked to settle the bill for his uniform?
- I've tweaked the ALT hook: it actually didn't specify the disaster, as obvious as it may seem. The bandleader played the violin also, so the plural is acceptable, I think. Drmies (talk) 02:54, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Ferugliotherium
- ... that the fossil mammal Ferugliotherium had rodent-like incisors and perhaps multituberculate-like premolars?
- Reviewed: Raja Zarith Sofia
- Comment: About a 30x expansion. I don't especially like the hook, but there are few individual facts about this animal that seem hooky. We could say that it, known from twenty teeth and perhaps a tiny jaw fragment, is among the best known gondwanatheres, but I haven't found a ref that makes that explicit.
5x expanded by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 14:56, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1... that the fossil mammal Ferugliotherium is known from only twenty teeth and maybe a tiny jaw fragment? --Shearonink (talk) 11:00, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Dead Fury
- ... that not only did independent filmmaker Frank Sudol direct Dead Fury, but he also did all the writing, animation, music and voice characterizations for his film?
- Comment: reviewed #2010 in women's ice hockey [6] Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 03:50, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
5x expanded by MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 03:50, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Currently at AfD. Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:14, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- Was just closed as "Snow Keep".[7] Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 21:37, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Indeed it has, and it is easy to see why. Length, date, and hook fact all check out. For next time, remember that the hook fact needs to be cited directly (i.e. after the sentence including the fact); I fixed it here, but it usually should be done by the creator or nom. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:39, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- Looks OK, perhaps the hook could be improved slightly for impact... --Errant (chat!) 10:33, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that independent filmmaker Frank Sudol wrote, animated, voiced, directed and composed all of the music for his film Dead Fury
ALT1 and original both check out. I prefer ALT1. Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:38, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Rethinking my ALT... it does seem to imply that this relates to the music.. so: --Errant (chat!) 10:46, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that independent filmmaker Frank Sudol wrote, animated, composed all of the music, voiced and directed his film Dead Fury
- ALT3 ... that independent filmmaker Frank Sudol wrote, animated, voiced, directed, and composed all of the music for his film Dead Fury?
- May be better. Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:29, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Rethinking my ALT... it does seem to imply that this relates to the music.. so: --Errant (chat!) 10:46, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Looks OK, perhaps the hook could be improved slightly for impact... --Errant (chat!) 10:33, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Roger Marie Bricoux
- ... that Roger Marie Bricoux, cellist on the RMS Titanic, who drowned in the disaster, was subsequently declared a "deserter" by the French army and was not officially registered dead until 2000?
Created by Marek69 (talk). Self nom at 00:47, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Although there isn't a direct link to the source, the reference summary works for me. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 01:42, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that after Roger Marie Bricoux, cellist on the RMS Titanic, drowned in the disaster, he was declared a "deserter" by the French army and not officially registered dead until 2000?
- I've reworded the original text for an alternative hook -- Marek.69 talk 19:19, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Good hook interest; ALT1 even better. But do you mean "deserter"? Better than italics. Can we not link the common terms? ALT2: ... that after Roger Marie Bricoux, cellist on the RMS Titanic, drowned in the disaster, he was declared a "deserter" by the French army and not officially registered dead until 2000? Tony (talk) 13:50, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks Tony, I've edited deserter to "deserter" (I think keeping this wikilink is useful) as you suggested and removed wikilink to French army. -- Marek.69 talk 17:32, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Good hook interest; ALT1 even better. But do you mean "deserter"? Better than italics. Can we not link the common terms? ALT2: ... that after Roger Marie Bricoux, cellist on the RMS Titanic, drowned in the disaster, he was declared a "deserter" by the French army and not officially registered dead until 2000? Tony (talk) 13:50, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 7
WGVM
- ... that before Blues Hall of Fame musician Little Milton (pictured) signed his first recording contract he hosted a radio show on WGVM in Greenville, Mississippi?
- Reviewed: Minden Cemetery ([8])
Created by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 03:46, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Length, citation, creation date checked. - AnakngAraw (talk) 20:25, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Paulinerkirche, Leipzig
- ... that the Paulinerkirche, the university church of Leipzig, where Luther preached, Bach performed and Mendelssohn premiered Paulus, was dynamited in 1968 in communist East Germany?
Created/expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 08:35, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed: #Lincoln Park (Jersey City, New Jersey)
- This seems to be an expanded article from stub status based on history of article. - AnakngAraw (talk) 01:46, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, previous character count was just over 1000, now stands at over 5800, so 5x expansion met. 78.26 (talk) 15:55, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
5X expansion good (see above). All hook claims accepted on good faith from foreign-language reference. Expansion date confirmed. Ready to go. 78.26 (talk) 16:03, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
India at the 2011 Sudirman Cup
- ... that the Indian badminton team contested first time in the elite group of Sudirman Cup and reached the quarterfinals this year?
- ALT1:... that in 2011, badminton team of India qualified for the first time in the elite group of the Sudirman Cup and reached the quarterfinals?
- ALT2:... that in 2011 Sudirman Cup Indian badminton team reached the quarterfinals?
Created by Bill william compton (talk). Self nom at 16:29, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Richard MacDonald
- ... that sculptor Richard MacDonald (pictured) was a successful commercial illustrator until his late 30s when a fire destroyed his entire art studio along with all his illustrations and paintings?
Created by Morton Sumner (talk). Nominated by Shearonink (talk) at 03:56, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Jisr ash-Shugur
The time limit for nominating has expired, This was created back in May and has since not been expanded.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:28, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- I could be mistaken but I thought the time clock started when the draft was moved to main space, not when it was created in userspace. The draft was moved to mainspace yesterday(June 7th), see this edit diff. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 11:00, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Yes it does! Sorry I missed that! Good to go! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:06, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- What's the image on the right for? - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:27, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- The image (two ballet dancers) was about a monument from the article, replacing it with MacDonald's portrait from the article. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:31, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, the photo of MacDonald looks really good. When I put that image of the Royal Ballet monument within the DYK?, I wasn't sure which would look better. Good call.Shearonink (talk) 20:18, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- The image (two ballet dancers) was about a monument from the article, replacing it with MacDonald's portrait from the article. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:31, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Sumidero Canyon
- ... that according to legend the Chiapa people committed suicide at the Sumidero Canyon in Chiapas, Mexico rather than submit to Spanish domination?
5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 02:38, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- REVIEWED Warqenah Eshate Thelmadatter (talk) 02:44, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
I've made a few minor edits but otherwise it's fine - date and length are good and it's well-written and sourced. Nice work. Prioryman (talk) 07:47, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Units check
- It says 1500 to 2000 hectares and 7,940km2. You may wish to be consistent and use the large unit for large areas. There should be a space and a superscript. Thus '15 to 20 km2;' and '7,940 km2'
- It says 1,200 masl. There is no unit 'masl' it should be 1,200 m asl but it's not necessary to say 'asl', it can be assumed.
- It says temperature is 26C. It needs a space and a degree symbol. Thus '26 °C'.
- It says potential to generate 3,928.48 megawatts, with a average of 5,749.99 gigawatts. I think the quoted values are more precise than they should be. Integer precision is sufficient here. Thus '3,928 megawatts, with a average of 5,750 gigawatts'.
- I don't think there needs to be a link to both megawatts and gigawatts. They both end up at watt anyway. I'm not sure if a link is needed at all.
- Lightmouse (talk) 11:39, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Units check
The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence)
- ... that the horror film The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence) has been banned from being sold on DVD in the United Kingdom for being "sexually violent and potentially obscene"?
--BabbaQ (talk) 20:54, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Article is currently at AFD, though it appears likely that it will be kept. Ucucha 21:41, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- A rare sighting of heavy snow in England in early June has led me to close the debate in a manner consistent with your prediction. BencherliteTalk 09:00, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
The following hook was proposed by User:Coolug in a separate nomination of this article (ALT1). Ucucha 08:54, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- ... that The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence) was only the eleventh film in history to be banned by the British Board of Film Classification?
Good to go, hook (Alt1) seems to me to be the best of the two. Fram (talk) 13:29, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- hey, the source that said it was only the eleventh film banned has retracted the claim, so the article no longer says this and the hook is thus now incorrect. Could it instead be amended to a rather simpler....
- ... that The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence) has been banned by the British Board of Film Classification?
English Pouter
- ... that Charles Darwin described the English Pouter (pictured) as "perhaps the most distinct of all domesticated pigeons"?
- Reviewed: Chuck Ricci
5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 17:16, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
The article seems a little short, with too much emphasis on the breeding history, but it fulfills the DYK requirements. The hook is interesting, especially accompanied by the striking image. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:24, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- I think the hook reads a little weird due to the word perhaps. I believe it could be changed, while maintaining meaning: "
- ... that Charles Darwin described the English Pouter (pictured) as "... the most distinct of all domesticated pigeons"? Ryan Vesey (talk) 17:58, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Aristolochia baetica
- ... that studies show that Aristolochia baetica has an antiproliferative effect on MCF-7 cells?
Created by Thecheesykid (talk). Self nom at 06:46, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
The article is too short, at ~1100 characters of prose, and should be expanded for the article to qualify. In addition, the hook, and to a lesser extent, the article are far too heavy on jargon. It appears that extracts from this weed prevent breast cancer cells from dividing, which would make a great hook, but as it stands most people will find the hook just a string of meaningless jargon. Ucucha 14:01, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Also, most of the little text that the article did have was a copyright violation, so I've removed it. Ucucha 14:06, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Thepchai Yong
... that Thepchai Yong won an International Press Freedom Award for his refusal to censor coverage of Thailand's Black May uprising?
- Reviewed:Edward Knowles (Royal Navy officer)
Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 04:37, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Size, date, check out. But the ref doesn't make it clear that he won the award for the refusal (or I missed it). A different ref or a quote would help; otherwise the hook may need to be rewritten --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:24, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Quite right. It was in the ref of the sentence before; I've marked it more clearly now. Thanks for reviewing. Khazar (talk) 23:54, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Better, but I'll still quibble. The bio states that he received the award "for his leadership at The Nation during this tumultuous time", times during which he indeed refused to censor the mentioned coverage. But, the wording of the source (and the award) is important. How about the alt below. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 01:02, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
ALT1:... that Thepchai Yong won an International Press Freedom Award for his editorship stance of The Nation, when he refused to censor coverage of Thailand's Black May uprising?
- I added another ref that makes the connection a little more direct. What would you say to an
- ALT2: ... that Thepchai Yong won an International Press Freedom Award for reporting on Thailand's Black May uprising despite military pressure to censor coverage?
- Thanks for the attention to detail. Cheers, Khazar (talk) 02:19, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
The new refs make it fine, so all hooks are accepted, with the preference to ALT2. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 01:03, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks the review. Khazar (talk) 20:24, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the attention to detail. Cheers, Khazar (talk) 02:19, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Edward Knowles (Royal Navy officer)
- ... that Francis Cotes's portrait of Edward Knowles (pictured) was painted after Knowles had disappeared at sea?
- Reviewed: James Bremer ([9])
Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 02:02, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Excellent hook; date, length, ref all check out. Good to go. Khazar (talk) 04:40, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Portia fimbriata
- ... that the jumping spider Portia fimbriata in Queensland is an exceptional predator of other spiders and, if an attack goes wrong, its defences are very effective, including an especially tough skin?
- alt1:... that the jumping spider Portia fimbriata in Queensland plays a deadly game of hide-and-seek with its favorite prey, Jacksonoides queenlandicus, another jumping spider
- alt2:... that sometimes the jumping spider Portia fimbriata can smell its favorite prey but not see it, and P. fimbriata jumps high in the air, so that the prey betrays itself by looking for the disturbance
Rollover text: A female Portia fimbriata
--Philcha (talk) 12:19, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Richard Torigi ([10])
Created by Philcha (talk). Self nom at 07:58, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 8
Flåm Line, NSB El 9
- ... that the Flåm Line, originally operated with El 9 locomotives, is the steepest standard gauge railway in Europe?
5x expanded by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 21:39, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Aenigmastacus. Arsenikk (talk) 21:52, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
, expansion, date, refs fine for both articles. Offline source AGF, but is the claim "steepest" also supported by an online source? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:56, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- I haven't seen any sources which are reliable or not promotional material. As a rule of thumb regarding rail transport, books are very reliable and online resources are not particularly reliable. Arsenikk (talk) 22:43, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Eucalyptus expressa
- ... that Eucalyptus expressa ms (pictured), a tree that grows to 45 metres high northwest of Sydney, remains officially undescribed?
Created by Poyt448 (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 07:38, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Hook, image, length and date check out. AGF on the reference. I added a link to Undescribed taxon. Strikehold (talk) 23:42, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
William P. Cronan
- ... that William P. Cronan (pictured), once described as "the most popular man in the Navy", lost two fingers when he shoved his hand in a breechblock to prevent a potentially deadly explosion?
- Reviewed: United Nations Security Council Resolution 1983 ([11])
Created by Scapler (talk). Self nom at 22:20, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Sources properly back up the statements in blurb. It's long enough, and Scapler wrote it when he said he did. Well done, very interesting.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:16, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Patrick Fischler
- ... that actor Patrick Fischler flew back and forth between Hawaii and Los Angeles for six months so he could film roles on Lost and Southland at the same time?
5x expanded by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 01:14, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Elton Bomer [12] — Hunter Kahn 01:15, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Date, length of expansion, and hook verified Calmer Waters 04:29, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
1866 Atlantic hurricane season
- ... that the first hurricane in the 1866 Atlantic hurricane season prompted a lighthouse keeper to resign out of fear from the weather, as well as loneliness?
Created/expanded by Hurricanehink (talk). Self nom at 19:52, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Length, date, and hook all check out. Smokeybjb (talk) 00:38, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not sure we gain much from the image at this size. None of the routes appear to be visible. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 14:28, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- That's fine, it's not really needed. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:07, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Nick Koback
- ... that at the time of his Major League Baseball debut in 1952, Nick Koback was the youngest Pittsburgh Pirates player in franchise history? Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 00:24, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Brian Dallimore
Date, length and references are all fine; assuming good faith on the offline references. Good to go. Prioryman (talk) 07:54, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Kingdom of Africa
- ... that the Kingdom of Africa was established by the Sicilian Normans in the 12th century in what is now Algeria, Tunisia and Libya?
Created by Srnec (talk). Nominated by Prioryman (talk) at 23:39, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Trailblazer (monorail). Prioryman (talk) 07:35, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Date, length, hook all o.k. Interesting. Aymatth2 (talk) 00:56, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Units check. It has 'feet' and 'mph' values that need converting. Lightmouse (talk) 12:03, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
SS Empire Deed
- ... that the SS Empire Deed, a British Second World War cargo ship, ended up being sold in turn to shipping companies in Panama, Greece, Liberia and Taiwan?
Created by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Prioryman (talk) at 23:26, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Operation Fustian. Prioryman (talk) 07:52, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Date, length and hook reference 1 all look good.--Nvvchar. 10:51, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Duployan shorthand
- ... that Duployan shorthand can be used to write French, English, German, Spanish, Romanian, and Chinook Jargon?
Created by Vanisaac (talk). Nominated by Prioryman (talk) at 23:26, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Gottlieb Konrad Pfeffel Prioryman (talk) 07:43, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Nominator had me down as the creator!? I've corrected this to Vanisaac. Mjroots (talk) 05:05, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- I nominated one of your articles above and mixed you up with the author of this one. Apologies! Prioryman (talk) 07:39, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- No problem, I've bolded the hook article in that nom. Mjroots (talk) 10:11, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Everything checks out. Strikehold (talk) 01:39, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Untitled Marilyn Manson album
- ... ... that Marilyn Manson's upcoming untitled album will feature a "suicide death metal" style that "will make a vagina wet", according to the singer?
Created by Salgado96 (talk). Nominated by Prioryman (talk) at 23:26, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Nick Koback. Prioryman (talk) 07:56, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Is there any other way to present this hook, a lot tamer perhaps. Ref ok. Can someone check expansion history and length, thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 20:17, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
List of owners of Warwick Castle
- ... that Warwick Castle in England (pictured) has had 36 different owners during its 950 years of existence?
Created by RobinLeicester (talk). Nominated by Prioryman (talk) at 23:26, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Durchlauchtster Leopold, BWV 173a Prioryman (talk) 07:46, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Wondering whether the last two words are necessary? Maybe. Please don't link common country-names (See WP:MOSLINK). Tony (talk) 13:47, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
The lead is only 842 characters, and I'm not sure if the descriptions in the list itself count toward the prose requirements. Also, if you don't read the lead of the article, readers might find it misleading that there are actually 43 (as the hook omits "plus four periods as crown property under seven different monarchs"). That might just be me, however. A second opinion would be good. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:31, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- On the last point, the lead describes 'different individuals', which excludes the crown and the companies that have owned it more recently. 'Different owners' is a different claim. Could the hook be 'Thirty-six people have owned Warwick Castle since 1068?' (Also, using a picture that isn't on the page seems odd.) Is it Prioryman who would implement changes, always assuming it meets prose requirements anyway. (lots of first times for me in all this, so sorry if I am not following the system). RobinLeicester (talk) 00:48, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
United Nations Security Council Resolution 1983
- ... that United Nations Security Council Resolution 1983 called for an "exceptional and comprehensive global response" to the threat of HIV/AIDS?
Created by Midway (talk). Nominated by Prioryman (talk) at 23:26, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Article needs additional sourcing. Out of 365 words in the body of the article, 239 are uncited, which makes about 65.4% of the entire article body (this does not include the lead). Further, there are two whole uncited paragraphs out of five in the body. Any article featured on the main page should be an example of how to have a verifiable article. If sourcing is improved, it would certainly be a good candidate. かんぱい! Scapler (talk) 22:11, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Somerset County Cricket Club in 1948
- ... that Somerset County Cricket Club named three official captains for the 1948 season?
Created by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 16:29, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Kinetic Star Wars
Date and length are great. Off-line reference accepted IGF. Ackatsis (talk) 05:26, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Godavari Arch Bridge
- ... that the Godavari Arch Bridge (pictured) in Andhra Pradesh in India is said to be one of the longest span prestressed concrete bridge (PSC) in Asia, probably in the World?
5x expanded by Tatiraju.rishabh (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 14:45, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Comment:This is an expansion of the article posted by User: Tatiraju.rishabh, which was not accepted due to its short length and referencing issues.--Nvvchar. 14:45, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Size ok, date ok, source ok. The source is from year 2000. Maybe in the meantime there is longer span built in Asia, so maybe it would be better to replace "is said to be" with "was said to be"? It is only an idea, the existing hook is fine.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 11:05, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. You have already made the change in the hook. I will change it in the text also.--Nvvchar. 12:33, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed SS Empire Deed.--Nvvchar. 10:54, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Operation Fustian
- ... that it was during Operation Fustian in 1943, that artillery was first flown into combat?
Self nom and X 5 expansion. Jim Sweeney (talk) 14:33, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Dan Kubiak below Jim Sweeney (talk) 14:43, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Very well-written and illustrated article, date is fine and assuming good faith on the offline sources, but expansion appears to be just under 5x - I make it 1,011 words before, 4,931 words after. Another 124 words will take you over the line! Prioryman (talk) 07:50, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- I have never seen an expansion measured by words used, its normal to measure DYK by characters used? Jim Sweeney (talk) 09:55, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Apologies, you're quite right.
Good to go. Prioryman (talk) 10:23, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Apologies, you're quite right.
- I have never seen an expansion measured by words used, its normal to measure DYK by characters used? Jim Sweeney (talk) 09:55, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Gottlieb Konrad Pfeffel
- ... that German texts by the blind Alsatian writer Gottlieb Konrad Pfeffel were the basis of two songs by Ludwig van Beethoven and Franz Schubert, and of an opera by Joseph Haydn?
Created by Fram (talk). Self nom at 13:38, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence)
Date, length, etc all check out. Nice article. Prioryman (talk) 07:42, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks! Fram (talk) 08:37, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Dan Kubiak
- ... that when he was an educator, Texas State Representative Dan Kubiak published Ten Tall Texans, biographical sketches of, among others, Stephen F. Austin, Jim Bowie, and Sam Houston?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 13:24, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed: Byron Barrera
online reference which I do not have full access to but there is no reason for me not to AGF. Date and length ok.Jim Sweeney (talk) 14:41, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
I don't see what makes enotes.com a reliable source, and anyway, the claim needs to be drawn from a source that actually discusses the book's publication within the context of Kubiak's life, not from a commercial site's summary of the book itself. - Biruitorul Talk 17:15, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Correction made. Billy Hathorn (talk) 04:08, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Durchlauchtster Leopold, BWV 173a
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 13:03, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed: #Lurma Rackley, Gloria Blackwell --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:49, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Date, length etc are good. Assuming good faith on offline reference, article is well written and good to go. Prioryman (talk) 07:45, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Christ Church, Ashford
- ... that Christ Church in Ashford, Kent. became known as "the railwayman's church" because most of the money for its construction was provided by the shareholders of the South Eastern Railway Company?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 09:11, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Dominium maris baltici
Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 11:28, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
1991–92 Michigan Wolverines men's ice hockey team, 1992–93 Michigan Wolverines men's ice hockey team
- ... that the 1991–92 and 1992–93 Michigan Wolverines men's ice hockey teams both qualified for the NCAA tournament final four in the same years that the Fab Five led the basketball team to the final four?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk), TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 07:26, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Expansion underway. Please give me a day or two to get to 1500 chars.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:30, 8 June 2011 (UTC)- I am no longer sure that mention of the Fab Five belongs in either article. Although if reviewers think so, I will add it. Thus I propose the following two distinct hooks:
- (ALT 1A)... that although preseason renovations of Yost Ice Arena reduced seating by 10.7%, the 1991–92 Michigan Wolverines men's hockey team posted the third-highest weekend series attendance in school history?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:36, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- (ALT 1B)... that the 1992–93 Michigan Wolverines men's ice hockey team started school record streaks that remain current for both home wins and road unbeaten games?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:36, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Mohammad Roem
- ... that Indonesian politician Mohammad Roem moved to Pekalongan as a child to escape an outbreak of cholera?
Created by Redyka94 (talk). Nominated by Crisco 1492 (talk) at 07:11, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Review to follow. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:11, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: I Am Playr (diff) Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:18, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Good to go.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:49, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Both hook and article seem good. I ran through the article lightly. Tony (talk) 14:10, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Byron Barrera
- ... that the wife of Guatemalan journalist Byron Barrera was murdered in 1990 in an unsuccessful attempt on his life?
- Reviewed:Stutter (Elastica song)
Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 05:44, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Can you find his age, education, city of residence, burial site of wife? Was there a remarriage? Billy Hathorn (talk) 13:33, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- No, I didn't see any of the information you're requesting in my sources; perhaps a Spanish-speaking editor would be able to get those details. Do you feel they're needed to complete your review? Thanks for looking at this one, Khazar (talk) 16:39, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Billy Hathorn (talk) 17:15, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
I agree, both hook and article (I fixed the typo in the date). Tony (talk) 14:13, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Los Angeles fetus disposal scandal
- ... that over 16,000 aborted fetuses were found in the Los Angeles fetus disposal scandal in 1982?
Created by Tedder (talk). Self nom at 05:00, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Hidden roof, immediately below. tedder (talk) 05:00, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Length etc check out, hook is interesting (as is the article!) and online refs are accurately cited. sonia♫ 10:09, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Superb hook! Except could you insert the year? (1982, was it? Hard to find even in the article ... why not include it in the lead?) Tony (talk) 09:44, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Inserted, and I'll add it to the lede of the article. They were found in 82, buried/disposed in 85. tedder (talk) 01:09, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Stutter (Elastica song)
- Reviewed: Bizunesh Deba ([13])
5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 02:43, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Length for expansion, date check out. But the only reference I can find to quotation the hook points to is here [14], which seems to be a different source than the one you've cited. Is it possible you plugged in the wrong Harris book? I've also taken the liberty of swapping out the phrase "male impotence" for "erectile dysfunction" above, which I think would simultaneously be more precise and funnier, but if I've overstepped myself, feel free to revert. Khazar (talk) 05:52, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
No issues with the citations; I was simply misreading, and props to your patience with my failure to grasp this basic point. Good to go. Khazar (talk) 06:33, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Trailblazer (monorail)
- ... that the Trailblazer was the first commercially operated monorail system in the United States?
Created by Dfwcre8tive (talk). Self nom at 14:17, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Date, length etc OK, assuming good faith on the offline references. Prioryman (talk) 07:34, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
William Hopkinson Cox
- ... that William Hopkinson Cox (pictured), who was Lieutenant Governor of Kentucky from 1907 to 1911, was believed to be a descendent of William the Conqueror?
- Reviewed: Lulz Security ([15])
5x expanded by Acdixon (talk). Self nom at 23:18, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Nice expansion on this. Date, length check out, and hook ref AGF. My only concern is to what degree an 1896 biographical encyclopedia is for a claim like this. My understanding is that it was pretty common for families to claim this sort of ancestry whether they had it or not; does your source give details, or a list of ancestors? If not, I wonder what you would think about softening this statement here to Cox claimed to be a descendant of William the Conqueror, or that his family claimed to be. Your thoughts? Khazar (talk) 05:01, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- I also wondered about this a little. This book also has an entry for George Cox, grandfather of William Cox. That entry gives the names of George's father and grandfather, with dates going back to about the 1750's. It then further claims that the family had "authentic records" tracing back 300 more years. That still puts it about four centuries from William the Conqueror, but I suspect we won't find any better sources for such a minor politician. I hesitate at "claimed to be" because it has a negative connotation to me, as though he nefariously concocted this ancestry and actively touted it despite it's falsehood. Maybe "was believed to be" or at worst "was supposed to be"? Acdixon (talk • contribs • count) 15:07, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
"Believed to be" seems like an elegant solution. I've changed it above. Thanks for addressing this, and for the good expansion. Khazar (talk) 19:37, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
The Magpie
- ... that The Magpie is considered one of Claude Monet's best snowscape paintings? (pictured)?
- Reviewed: Record Plant [16]
- Comment: Moved from user space on 02:17, 8 June 2011[17]
Created by Viriditas (talk). Self nom at 10:48, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 9
Fred Brinkman
- ... that more than ten works by Kalispell, Montana, architect Fred Brinkman have been listed on the National Register of Historic Places?
Created by Doncram (talk) and Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 15:12, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'd like to see this checked a bit more before it's passed through -- at least one of the properties on the list was designed 4 years after Brinkman's death.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:19, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- Comma inserted, to avoid Montana architect, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:15, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- It's all been pretty carefully vetted now. The property referenced by Sarek was by Brinkman's firm (not him personally) and has been removed. Should be good to go now. Cbl62 (talk) 00:32, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
List of Field Marshals of the British Army
- ... that Sir Evelyn Wood (pictured) was one of only three Victoria Cross recipients to reach the rank of Field Marshal?
Created by HJ Mitchell (talk). Self nom at 18:46, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- I reviewed the nom below. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:51, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Date, length OK. The article is well-done and the chart with pictures is excellent. I am unable to open the links in footnotes 3, 4, 5, so I'm accepting this AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 23:22, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Aaron Copland House
- ... that the Aaron Copland House (pictured) in Cortlandt Manor, New York, is the only U.S. National Historic Landmark connected to a classical music figure?
- Reviewed: William Berkeley (Royal Navy officer) ([18])
- Comment: I began expanding the text on this date (I had added the image two weeks earlier, intending to do what I just did, but then I got sidetracked expanding perp walk
5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 17:27, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Expansion is legit, image is freely licensed, hook fact checks out in source. Nice work. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:49, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
William Berkeley (Royal Navy officer)
- ... that Andrew Marvell wrote poems accusing Vice-Admiral Sir William Berkeley (pictured) of cowardice, even after Berkeley's death in battle?
- Reviewed: Physics of the Future ([19])
Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 15:35, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Length and history verified; ref accepted AGF. Daniel Case (talk) 17:21, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
L. B. Kubiak
- ... that from 1983 to 1991, the veterinarian L. B. Kubiak served in the Texas House of Representatives, his tenure having followed and preceded that of his older brother, Dan Kubiak?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 16:58, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed George M. Hill Company
Source does not match years of service in hook and article. Item about brother unsourced. - AnakngAraw (talk) 01:16, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Correction made. Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:33, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Unionskirche, Idstein
- ... that walls and the ceiling of the Unionskirche (Union Church) in Idstein are covered with 38 oil paintings from the Dutch Golden Age school of Rubens (pictured)?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 14:11, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed: #Mga Anak-Bukid and Rosauro Almario (bold but not nominated). - I didn't know where to place pictured best. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:35, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Good to go. I checked German sources. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 00:15, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Brood XIX, Magicicada neotredecim
- ... that a new species of periodical cicada (pictured) was discovered by studying the songs of Brood XIX, now re-emerging in 2011 after 13 years underground?
5x expanded by Sharktopus (talk). Self nom at 04:04, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Harvard Institute for International Development, Harvard Analytical Framework]. Sharktopustalk 04:22, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Article: "twelve" but "13"? Usually, "11"-plus are numerals. Please see WP:MOSNUM. Again, US was linked. Hook: it's good! Tony (talk) 09:23, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- OK, I repaired the problem. Could Tony or somebody put the OK on this? Brood XIX cicadas are dying off already in parts of the US, and they won't be back until 2024. Sharktopustalk 11:29, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Hook and article look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:36, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks so much -- but I just added a second new article to this hook, about the new species Magicicada neotredecim--so that new article needs a DYK check also. Sharktopustalk 02:22, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date, and refs all good to go. And kudos to you for systematically expanding our coverage in this area. Khazar (talk) 02:44, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the friendly kudos, they made me smile. I enjoy writing about all the interesting species who share our planet, but I also really enjoyed your words of encouragement. Kudos for encouraging a relative newcomer! Sharktopustalk 11:34, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Dabomb87 oked the first article and Khazar the second (see above), hope nobody minds my putting the "Please pick me person making up prep!" flag as the bottom line of these comments. But if I did wrong by posting the icon translation of official verdicts, please undo, scold, and forgive. Sharktopustalk 13:32, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Harvard Institute for International Development, Harvard Analytical Framework
- ... that the Harvard Institute for International Development co-developed the Harvard Analytical Framework, which showed the importance of channeling foreign aid to women?
- Reviewed: Kingdom of Africa ([20])
Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 01:03, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Two very interesting and well-written articles, meet length requirements for DYK, good hook. GTG. Sharktopustalk 04:19, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Agree with Shark. Please don't link common country-names in articles or hooks (first article). I tweaked the images in HIID. The pic of the guy there is still pretty weird (I guess you can't remove that bizarre background, can you?) Tony (talk) 09:17, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Arenysuchus
- ... that the extinct crocodilian Arenysuchus (skull pictured) lived on an island archipelago during the Late Cretaceous and was part of the first evolutionary radiation of crocodyloids?
Created by Rnnsh (talk). Nominated by Smokeybjb (talk) at 00:46, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, pretty dry article: I went there to try to find something dramatic about this nasty predator, but nothing. Don't we know its dimensions, which could be a focus of interest in the hook? The image doesn't work at that micro-size, for me. The hook is badly overlinked; why "worry" the DYK article link with others that are both dictionary terms and technical, when they are surely all contained in the article we want the readers to click to? I suppose "crocodilian" couldn't be "crocodile", could it?
... that the extinct crocodilian Arenysuchus (skull pictured) lived on an island archipelago during the Late Cretaceous and was part of the first "evolutionary radiation" of crocodyloids? Tony (talk) 09:32, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hm, maybe mentioning that it was recently described (yesterday, in fact) could add some more interest. The island archipelago made up what is now Europe, so that might be surprising to some readers. DYK hooks should have links, and the ones in this one certainly aren't dictionary terms. Also, "crocodilian," "crocodyloid," and "crocodile" aren't the same thing. Crocodiles are a type of crocodyloid, which are a type of crocodilian, and Arenysuchus is a crocodyloid but not a crocodile. What makes it special is that its one of the earliest crocodyloids. Here's my alt:
... that the recently described extinct crocodilian Arenysuchus (skull pictured) lived on an island archipelago in Europe during the Late Cretaceous and was part of the first evolutionary radiation of crocodyloids? Smokeybjb (talk) 18:54, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hm, maybe mentioning that it was recently described (yesterday, in fact) could add some more interest. The island archipelago made up what is now Europe, so that might be surprising to some readers. DYK hooks should have links, and the ones in this one certainly aren't dictionary terms. Also, "crocodilian," "crocodyloid," and "crocodile" aren't the same thing. Crocodiles are a type of crocodyloid, which are a type of crocodilian, and Arenysuchus is a crocodyloid but not a crocodile. What makes it special is that its one of the earliest crocodyloids. Here's my alt:
- Yeah, pretty dry article: I went there to try to find something dramatic about this nasty predator, but nothing. Don't we know its dimensions, which could be a focus of interest in the hook? The image doesn't work at that micro-size, for me. The hook is badly overlinked; why "worry" the DYK article link with others that are both dictionary terms and technical, when they are surely all contained in the article we want the readers to click to? I suppose "crocodilian" couldn't be "crocodile", could it?
- Reviewed: 1866 Atlantic hurricane season
George M. Hill Company
- ... that after publishing bestsellers Father Goose and The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, the George M. Hill Company was compelled in 1902 to declare bankruptcy?
- Reviewed: Ferugliotheriidae ([21])
Created by Cunard (talk). Self nom at 23:30, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Good hook. Is it possible to add "bestsellers" before "Father ..."? Tony (talk) 09:35, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Billy Hathorn (talk) 17:21, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Ferugliotheriidae
- ... that blade-like teeth in extinct mammalian family Ferugliotheriidae may have evolved into molar-like teeth in the Sudamericidae?
- Reviewed: Aodh Méith ([22])
5x expanded by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 21:56, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Length and date verified. Source accepted in good faith. Cunard (talk) 23:22, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Hook seems pointless. Blades to molars? Wake me up when it's over. Tony (talk) 09:39, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- We might add the kangaroo factor (ALT1):
- ... that the teeth in the ancient South American mammalian group Ferugliotheriidae may have evolved in a similar way to those of sthenurine kangaroos?
Lincoln Park (Jersey City, New Jersey)
Lincoln Park (Jersey City, New Jersey)
- ... that the world's largest concrete monument is a fountain located in Lincoln Park in Jersey City, New Jersey?
Created by JimMillerJr (talk). Self nom at 21:00, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
While I know it is short notice, if it is at all possible I would like this article to appear on June 12, 2011 - my 5th anniversary as a registered editor at WP. Jim Miller See me | Touch me 22:18, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Dictionary terms should not be linked, either in the hook or the article. Focus of interest in the hook is good.
ALT1 ... that the world's largest concrete monument is a fountain located in Lincoln Park in Jersey City, New Jersey? Tony (talk) 09:41, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, I see this only now, too late for the day. (Also it's a mixed blessing to have a hook on a feast day, not so many people looking. - I have one on June 12, though, also it's my birthday.) Now: date, length, refs fine. I agree with Tony that concrete and monument don't have to be linked, but would link the city, so ALT2 with that very minor change. But: the hook fact is supported offline, and I wonder why such a thing is not mentioned in one of the online sources? Or is it and I just don't see it? How do you feel about a picture?
- Dictionary terms should not be linked, either in the hook or the article. Focus of interest in the hook is good.
- ALT2:... that the world's largest concrete monument is a fountain located in Lincoln Park in Jersey City, New Jersey? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:55, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- There is a snippet view available for the source here but I generally don't link to google books snippets as sources. As for the picture, I was unable to locate a free use one of the fountain itself, which would go best with the hook. I am fine with the ALT2 hook. Jim Miller See me | Touch me 15:49, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- The new source says "boasts", to me that doesn't imply it's true. But English isn't my first language. I am still surprised that a description of the park misses such a statement. Do you know why? Suggest to phrase it with caution (if ok please insert the ref at least until it has appeared):
- ALT3:... that Jersey City boasts the world's largest concrete monument, a fountain in Lincoln Park? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:28, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- There is a snippet view available for the source here but I generally don't link to google books snippets as sources. As for the picture, I was unable to locate a free use one of the fountain itself, which would go best with the hook. I am fine with the ALT2 hook. Jim Miller See me | Touch me 15:49, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2:... that the world's largest concrete monument is a fountain located in Lincoln Park in Jersey City, New Jersey? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:55, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Coding (therapy)
- ... that if the alternative therapeutic practice of coding is successful, patients will fear for their lives?
- Reviewed: Alfred Gerrard ([23])
- Comment: The source of the hook is on page 3 of the journal article. Also, if you follow the doi link there's a button on the website to download the article as a pdf. (I much prefer that to the document viewing software on the website.)
Created by Mr. Stradivarius (talk). Self nom at 15:01, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Good topic, length, date and refs all check out. I was skeptical of this hook until I clicked through and saw you'd played this fair--well done. Khazar (talk) 15:11, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- I did an "of" into the hook for clarity if that's okay with you. (I first understood that phrase as "the coding of alternative therapies", which caused me a bit of confusion.) Khazar (talk) 15:13, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, I did wonder if there was a better way to phrase that - at first I put coding in italics, but then I realised that this probably wasn't strictly correct. Adding "of" makes it much clearer. Thanks! — Mr. Stradivarius ♫ 05:00, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- I tweaked the hook again, this time changing "alternative therapy" to "alternative therapeutic practice". That should make it even clearer. (I also added "will" to the second half.) — Mr. Stradivarius ♫ 05:58, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Looks good to me. Khazar (talk) 23:49, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- I tweaked the hook again, this time changing "alternative therapy" to "alternative therapeutic practice". That should make it even clearer. (I also added "will" to the second half.) — Mr. Stradivarius ♫ 05:58, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, I did wonder if there was a better way to phrase that - at first I put coding in italics, but then I realised that this probably wasn't strictly correct. Adding "of" makes it much clearer. Thanks! — Mr. Stradivarius ♫ 05:00, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- I did an "of" into the hook for clarity if that's okay with you. (I first understood that phrase as "the coding of alternative therapies", which caused me a bit of confusion.) Khazar (talk) 15:13, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Pryor Mountains Wild Horse Range
- ... that because of their unique genetic makeup, the feral horses (mare and foal pictured) on the Pryor Mountains Wild Horse Range "may be the most significant wild-horse herd remaining in the United States"?
Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 14:06, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Cabbage Tree Island
Off-line reference accepted IGF. Creation date and length are fine. Image is in the public domain. Terrifically-detailed article! Ackatsis (talk) 14:33, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
The Great Lover (novel)
- ... that Jill Dawson, in her biographical novel The Great Lover, integrated quotes from letters of Rupert Brooke's (pictured) contemporaries into the fictional narrative?
Created by Sadads (talk). Self nom at 14:01, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed SS_Empire_Defender Sadads (talk) 14:09, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Length and reference are verified. As a side question not related to the hook itself, is there a reason Nell Golightly is referred to by her first name rather than surname? —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 22:11, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- It's the usage in the novel. Nell is always refered to by the familiar first name, will Brooke is treated in both the familiar Rupert and unfamiliar Brooke, but more often Brooke or Mr. Brooke. It was what was natural when writing. I am consulting with one of my professors tomorrow, and am going to ask her if she thinks that is the correct usage (she is the one who recommended the book), Sadads (talk) 22:59, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- I see; thanks for the clarification. Whichever way her name is written, it's acceptable to me. Perhaps a note can be added in the article mentioning the usage. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 23:22, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- It's the usage in the novel. Nell is always refered to by the familiar first name, will Brooke is treated in both the familiar Rupert and unfamiliar Brooke, but more often Brooke or Mr. Brooke. It was what was natural when writing. I am consulting with one of my professors tomorrow, and am going to ask her if she thinks that is the correct usage (she is the one who recommended the book), Sadads (talk) 22:59, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed SS_Empire_Defender Sadads (talk) 14:09, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Elton Bomer
- ... that in 1999, Texas Secretary of State Elton Bomer assisted then Governor George W. Bush in the acquisition of the Prairie Chapel Ranch near Crawford, Texas?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 13:12, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Date, hook and length all check out. — Hunter Kahn 01:11, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed: Edgerton W. Day
Cabbage Tree Island
- ... that a major cause of death for Gould's Petrels on Cabbage Tree Island used to be entanglement with the sticky fruits of the Bird-lime Tree?
- Reviewed: Mundeshwari Temple ([[24]])
Created by Maias (talk). Self nom at 12:41, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Hook length, article length, and timeliness of submission all check out. Online cite checks out. (I added the page number to the cite in the article). Article is good to go! - Tim1965 (talk) 13:58, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
A Glorious Way to Die
- ...
that A Glorious Way to Die is a book about the Kamikaze mission of the world's largest battleship, the Yamato (pictured) against the American Pacific Fleet near the end of World War II?
- Reviewed: Reginald Byng Stephens ([25])
Created by Bruce1ee (talk). Self nom at 11:07, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1...
that A Glorious Way to Die is a book about the World War II Kamikaze mission of the world's largest battleship, the Yamato (pictured), against the American Pacific Fleet? - it's a bit shorter and reads better I think - Basement12 (T.C) 13:23, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1 is better, I'm happy with it. Thanks. —Bruce1eetalk 13:35, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- (e.c.) Basement, yes, ALT1 is better. I wonder whether this is interesting too (and without the competing links (which are at the article, I hope), I think the DYK article will get more hits). But does this pack too much in?
- ALT2...
that A Glorious Way to Die describes both Japanese and American perspectives of the World War II suicide mission by the world's largest battleship, the Yamato (pictured), against the US Pacific Fleet?Tony (talk) 13:45, 9 June 2011 (UTC)- ALT2 is also interesting, thanks Tony, although I'm leaning towards ALT1 because of its compactness. But I'm still open to suggestions. —Bruce1eetalk 14:18, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- I think the idea of linking less to draw readers to the DYK article is a good one so
- ALT3... that A Glorious Way to Die is a book about the World War II Kamikaze mission of the world's largest battleship, the Yamato (pictured), against the American Pacific Fleet? - Basement12 (T.C) 08:49, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Sure, ALT3 looks good. I'm surprised you removed "suicide", which is the shocking bit and likely to attract hits. But over to your judgement. Tony (talk) 08:55, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
SS Empire Defender
- ... that Empire Defender was twice seized by the United Kingdom - in World War One, and again in World War Two?
Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 10:07, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Sadads (talk) 14:08, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Artilcle: what is "GRT" at the opening? Hook: Interest level of the hook is good. Please note the style guides: avoid linking commonly known country-name articles, and frankly, WW1 and 2 are common enough not to dilute the DYK article link, which I hope contains links to those wars, yes? Hyphens may not be used like that: please follow the MoS (en dash). Also, brevity, crispness, are good in hooks and titles: UK, or better for those times, Britain? Are we allowed to highlight a word in italics in DYK hooks?
- GRT is linked on its first occurrence in the infobox. As for the dash/hyphen issue, I'll leave that to the hyphen police. When I get an en-dash that I can type on my keyboard, I'll use it. Until then, I will make do with what I can use. As for the style guide, that goes against the principle of interlinking across the encyclopedia for ease of navigation between articles. Removal of country links is pointless anyway if that country's flag is in the infobox, as the country is linked from the flag (click flag to see). Ship names are always in italics per WP:MOSSHIP. Mjroots (talk) 13:50, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that Empire Defender was seized by Britain twice – in World War I as a German cargo ship, and again in World War II as an Italian cargo ship?
Did I get the Italian bit right? I think it's a hoot that the same ship was captured under two different "enemy" flags. Tony (talk) 09:02, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, German in WWI, Italian in 1940 when Italy declared war on the Allies. As the ship was in a British port at the time, she was promptly seized! Mjroots (talk) 13:17, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
HOP card
... that over 15,000 Aucklanders hopped from place to place in one week?
- Comment: The hook is a bit "April 1", and could certainly be improved :) Reviewed Los Angeles fetus disposal scandal.
Created by Sonia (talk). Self nom at 09:53, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
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- ALT1 ... that the release of Auckland, New Zealand's new HOP card transit system was timed to be in place for the 2011 Rugby World Cup?
- Khazar (talk) 00:03, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- That'll do, although I was going for as quirky as such a mundane topic can be :) sonia♫ 05:30, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
ALT1 good to go, then. Nice work on the article, mundane though it may be. Khazar (talk) 15:04, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- That'll do, although I was going for as quirky as such a mundane topic can be :) sonia♫ 05:30, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Aelita Andre
- ... that Aelita Andre, an Australian artist who recently sold $30,000 worth of paintings at a New York exhibition, is just four years old?
Created by Armadillopteryx (talk). Self nom at 06:23, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Very fun, very unique article, I love it! It's sourced, too. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:48, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Yelena Masyuk
- ... that journalist Yelena Masyuk was held hostage in Chechnya for 101 days?
- Review:William Hopkinson Cox
Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 04:53, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Length, date and hook reference 7 verified. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 16:40, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Edgerton W. Day
- ... that the town of Daysland in the Alberta province is named after the Canadian politician Edgerton W. Day (pictured)?
Created by Connormah (talk). Self nom at 04:05, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Note: this article was just moved from my userspace to the mainspace. Will get to a review tomorrow. Connormah (talk) 04:05, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Billy Hathorn (talk) 13:29, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Manchester Hydraulic Power
- ... that Manchester Hydraulic Power (hydraulic pump pictured) supplied the energy to wind the Town Hall clock, pump the Cathedral organ and raise the safety curtain at the Manchester Opera House?
Created/expanded by Bob1960evens (talk). Nominated by Richerman (talk) at 22:58, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Current nominations
Articles created/expanded on June 10
Das häßliche Mädchen
- ... that at the 1933 première of the film Das häßliche Mädchen there was a Nazi-instigated riot in which tomatoes and rotten eggs were thrown, because of the male lead, Max Hansen?
Created by Yngvadottir (talk). Self nom at 02:13, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Jerry Della Femina
- ... that Jerry Della Femina, head of the ad agency that came up with the singing cat for Meow Mix, wrote a book in 1970 which inspired the television series Mad Men?
2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Elonka (talk). Self nom at 03:35, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Song of the hoe. --Elonka 17:37, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Length, date and Mad Men sources all check out, offline source for Meow Mix accepted in good faith. Interesting hook! Frickative 04:09, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Gotham City Impostors
- ... that in the upcoming video game Gotham City Impostors, teams of people dressed as Batman and The Joker try to kill each other?
Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 23:13, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Beau (poem) [26] — Hunter Kahn 23:13, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
All looks good to me, hook is referenced, article is long enough, created only a couple of days ago. Good work. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:36, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Song of the hoe
- ... that in the Sumerian creation myth, the Song of the hoe (pictured), a cosmic agricultural implement created man to give itself something to do?
- ALT1 ... that the Sumerian creation myth, the Song of the hoe features a cosmic hoe (regular hoe pictured) creating man to give itself some work?
Created by Paul Bedson (talk), Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 23:30, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
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- Alt 1 has been added to convey the literary style of the myth via repetition of the word "hoe" along with its satire, which is perhaps given a new dimension by modern translation. Well, I think it would get more hits. Ho! Ho! Ho! Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 00:18, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
I checked the article, but could not find anywhere that it discussed the information in the hook about creating man to give itself work. Date and length of the article are okay though. Recommend "ALT2: ... that the Sumerian creation myth the Song of the hoe describes the hoe (regular hoe pictured) as a magical implement used by the supreme deity Enlil to separate heaven and earth?" --Elonka 17:31, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Fair point, my hook is a way off the original suggestion in Horowitz "the creation of agricultural implements making a function for mankind" that I intended. I'm not sure that the "seperation of heaven and earth" concept is that easy for the average reader to understand. I also personally think this is a slightly mistranslated concept. I'd prefer "ALT3: ... that the Sumerian creation myth the Song of the hoe describes the hoe (pictured) being created by Enlil to give mankind a function?" or even "ALT4: ... that the Sumerian creation myth the Song of the hoe (pictured) describes the construction projects of the Annanuki at the beginning of the universe?" I'm pretty easy though and happy to go with other editors' opinions on this one. Cheers! Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 19:33, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'm not too crazy about Alt3, because that interpretation still seems pretty far afield (pardon the pun). For Alt4, could we add more about who or what the Annanuki are? Ultimately, I still prefer Alt2, and feel that "separating heaven and earth" is pretty understandable. --Elonka 12:49, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- Fair point, my hook is a way off the original suggestion in Horowitz "the creation of agricultural implements making a function for mankind" that I intended. I'm not sure that the "seperation of heaven and earth" concept is that easy for the average reader to understand. I also personally think this is a slightly mistranslated concept. I'd prefer "ALT3: ... that the Sumerian creation myth the Song of the hoe describes the hoe (pictured) being created by Enlil to give mankind a function?" or even "ALT4: ... that the Sumerian creation myth the Song of the hoe (pictured) describes the construction projects of the Annanuki at the beginning of the universe?" I'm pretty easy though and happy to go with other editors' opinions on this one. Cheers! Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 19:33, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
1911 Sarez earthquake
- ... that the 1911 Sarez earthquake triggered a huge landslide, forming the highest dam in the world (pictured)?
Created by EdwardLane (talk), Mikenorton (talk). Self nom at 17:39, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Ondoro Osoro, [28]
2470 size. References check out. Changed "tallest" -> "highest" as most references on the net as well as the white paper used as a ref uses highest, not tallest. --Redtigerxyz Talk 12:31, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
George B. Mowad
- ... that as the mayor of Oakdale, Louisiana, George B. Mowad in 1985 secured the establishment of the largest U.S. federal correctional institute of its time in his city?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:33, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed:Canoe River train crash
Date, length OK. However, there is a glaring omission of any information about him being mayor for 20 years. Perhaps you could add a paragraph or two about his election and accomplishments? Yoninah (talk) 10:41, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, correction made Billy Hathorn (talk) 13:27, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Date, length, hook ref all verified. Tweaked hook and it's good to go.Yoninah (talk) 22:52, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, correction made Billy Hathorn (talk) 13:27, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Canoe River train crash
- ... that when railway telegrapher Alfred Atherton was accused of manslaughter for his role in the Canoe River train crash, he hired his MP, John Diefenbaker as defence counsel, who won an acquittal?
Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 00:27, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: William P. Cronan ([29])
Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:42, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Simon Laurens
- ... that after winning two medals at the 2008 Summer Paralympics, British equestrian Simon Laurens was named South West Disabled Sports Personality of the Year by the BBC?
- Reviewed: Southwestern pygmy possum ([30])
Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 23:37, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Everything seems legit. Can someone just double-check the length. Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 04:44, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Ghana Trades Union Congress
- ... that the Ghana Trades Union Congress, an umbrella group that unites various workers' groups in Ghana, was established in the 1945?
Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 23:28, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Wind power in New Jersey [[31]]
Source is website about topic. Would that be acceptable? - AnakngAraw (talk) 01:12, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Objection raised above has been addressed on On AnakngAraw's page.
- Note: Added commas to hook for grammar & clarity. Khazar (talk) 15:34, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
I technically like the article. I just needed a second opinion. - AnakngAraw (talk) 16:24, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Note: Added commas to hook for grammar & clarity. Khazar (talk) 15:34, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Ondoro Osoro
- ... that Kenyan runner Ondoro Osoro had a serious car crash in 1995 but went on to set a world record over 10 miles and win the Chicago Marathon with the fastest ever marathon debut time?
Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self nom at 20:26, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Alt1: ... that 1998 Chicago Marathon winner Ondoro Osoro made the Kenyan Olympic squad, but missed the 2000 Sydney Olympics after he was shot in a carjacking?
- Alt2: ... that 1998 Chicago Marathon winner Ondoro Osoro suffered nerve damage after he was shot in a carjacking in 2000, but went to win the San Diego Marathon in 2003?
- All good in my own humble opinion, with a lean towards the main hook and alt1. SFB 20:26, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Length, date and refs for main hook and both alts OK. Mikenorton (talk) 20:39, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Enoch T. Nix
- ... that in 1972, Enoch T. Nix, president of the Louisiana State Board of Education, proposed the closing of historically black Southern University at New Orleans, an issue revived in 2011 by Governor Bobby Jindal?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 19:59, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Everything checks out. Anaxial (talk) 21:01, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed: Claude W. Hibbard
Tehuantepec
- ... that the market of the city of Tehuantepec, Oaxaca, Mexico is dominated by women, with men subject to ridicule if they enter?
5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 18:03, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- REVIEWED Saint Luke Drawing the Virgin Thelmadatter (talk) 18:47, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Large expansion, refs and hook. Nice article. Well done Victuallers (talk) 18:15, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
2Cellos
- ... that Croatian cello duo 2Cellos are currently touring with singer Elton John after he saw the cellists' cover of "Smooth Criminal" on YouTube?
Created by Fetchcomms (talk). Self nom at 18:00, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed San Francisco Arts & Athletics, Inc. v. United States Olympic Committee. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 18:12, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
All checked and good to go as far as I can see. Had to add an obvious external link to "Smooth Criminal" because it was the first thing I looked for. Tour lasts several weeks so plenty of time for this to be relevant. Nice one. Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 21:59, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Richard Maxwell Drew
- ... that before his death in 1850 at the age of 28, the Louisiana politician Richard Maxwell Drew had already served as a district judge, constitutional convention delegate, and a state representative?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 16:34, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed: Sarah Lindsay (speed skater)
I admire the work that clearly went into this one, but I'm not sure the sources are reliable enough to support this hook. The district judge and convention delegate claims are cited to a high school history website, and the representative claim is cited to a source that contains the wrong initials (as you note). I don't think you're trying to pull a fast one or anything, but I'm not sure this meets DYK requirements for reliable sourcing for the hook reference; the article could use a more reliable secondary source. Khazar (talk) 15:24, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- New sources added and verified. Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:27, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Steg (video game)
- ... that in the computer game Steg players must feed young slugs on maggots caught in bubbles?
Created by Someone another (talk). Self nom at 15:52, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Length seems within acceptable limits, newness/date fine, hook/offline source accepted in Good Faith. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:51, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Athenaeum, Virginia
- ... that the Athenaeum museum of fine arts in Alexandria, Virginia was built in 1851 as a bank, where Robert E. Lee had an account?
Created by Divide et Impera (talk). Self nom at 15:01, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Hook, source, length, and date approved. [But image still needs rollovertext/alt text if it's going to be used] - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:55, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- rollovertext/alt text was there, but I had to take out the heads up with this edit. Best. Divide et Impera (talk) 14:50, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Agus Salim
- ... that former Indonesia foreign minister Agus Salim's was considered an "intellectual ulama" by Sukarno?
Created/expanded by Crisco 1492 (talk) and User:Redyka94. Self nom at 14:05, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Alternate picture: Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:09, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Review to follow. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:05, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Turakhan Beg ([32]) Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:15, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Crisco 1492 and Redyka94 done a good job, expanding and referencing the stub. --Redtigerxyz Talk 04:09, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Den Brook Wind Farm
- ... that Den Brook Wind Farm received planning permission in 2009 after two public inquiries and a judicial review?
Created by Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk). Self nom at 12:50, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Length, date fine, Hook facts borne out by references. Mjroots (talk) 13:23, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
San Francisco Arts & Athletics, Inc. v. United States Olympic Committee
- ... that in San Francisco Arts & Athletics, Inc. v. United States Olympic Committee, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the First Amendment did not protect the use of the word "Olympics" over the objections of the U.S. Olympic Committee?
- Reviewed: Princess Charlotte Bay
Created by Racepacket (talk). Self nom at 11:13, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Interesting article, everything checks out. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 18:11, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Princess Charlotte Bay
- ... that Queensland's worst maritime disaster occurred at Princess Charlotte Bay in 1899 after Cyclone Mahina struck Cape York Peninsula?
5x expanded by Shiftchange (talk). Self nom at 07:26, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Source does not support "worst maritime disaster." I know it was bad, but how do I know it was the worst? Length and date of expansion and hook otherwise check out, although sentence that contains "worst" is not referenced.Racepacket (talk) 10:57, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Citation now placed which supports claim. Also note that reference 2 and 3 on the Mahina Cyclone of 1899 article claim it was Australia's worst natural disaster ever. - Shiftchange (talk) 11:26, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
It is referenced now, and I will accept the reference on good faith. Racepacket (talk) 04:20, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Galima Bukharbaeva
- ... that following Galima Bukharbaeva's eyewitness acounnt of the Andijan Massacre, the Uzbek government charged her with providing "informational support to terrorism"?
- Reviewed:Earthling (Fringe), Edmund Ser, Charles River Speedway, etc.
Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 06:54, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
DYK ready.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:18, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Physics of the Future
- ... that Michio Kaku wrote in Physics of the Future that a chip that sings "Happy Birthday" contains more computer power than was possessed by the Allied forces in 1945?
5x expanded by Σ (talk). Self nom at 06:23, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
The expansion seems to have started on 25 May, and has not been 5x expanded since then, making this nomination too old. The article states Kaku 'compares a chip that sings "Happy Birthday" with the Allied forces in 1945, stating that the chip contains much more power', which is not the same as what the hook states. Furthermore it seems a very glib comment, considering the allies already had powerful codebreaking computers such as Bombe and Colossus. Benea (talk) 15:20, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Comment: Everything (except for "Reception") was hidden in an invisible comment until 9 June, so fine, this is in the wrong section, and the book states (word for word) "when you receive a birthday card in the mail, it often has a chip that sings "Happy Birthday" to you. Remarkably, that chip has more computer power than the Allied forces of 1945. Hitler, Churchill, or Roosevelt might have killed to get that chip.", and to avoid copyright templates being plastered over my talk page, I reworded most of what is in the article (not counting stuff in quotation marks). The book is non-fiction, so there is no need for persuasion, and the fact in the hook is actually interesting, so of course I would pick that one. And I changed the hook a bit. And if this sounds like a rant to you, I'm sorry, for that was not my intent, but I'm just a tad bit annoyed on how you dismissed the neutrality and truth in the hook (or at least that's how I took the last sentence). --The Σ talkcontribs 01:39, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Up and at 'Em (film)
- ... that actor Eddie Quillan's first film appearance was in the 1922 silent comedy/drama Up and at 'Em written by William A. Seiter and Lewis Milestone?
- Comment: reviewed #2011 in women's ice hockey [33] Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 04:10, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Created by MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 04:10, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
The claim needs a citation!♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:27, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Pardon, but the last sentence of that paragraph containing the assertion reads "Eddie Quillan was signed to contract in 1922, and Up and at 'Em was his very first film." and that sentence is immediately followed by the supporting citation.[34] However, I have placed the citation a second time at the beginning of that paragraph. Now it's cited twice. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 17:29, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Good to go then!♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:02, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- It seemed quite unnecessary to say "very first film appearance ever"; I changed it to "first film appearance". I also removed the unnecessary second occurrence of "film" ("drama film" to simply "drama"). MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 22:12, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Space industry
- ... that the current space industry is primarily composed of satellite and launch vehicle manufacturing, but its future development may include areas such as space tourism?
Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 01:08, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed #Malfatti_circles
- This should be considered expanded 5x, not as a new article. Can I suggest a slight edit to the hook to place a higher emphasis on its future in space tourism? Meets all of the eligibility requirements. Ryan Vesey (talk) 04:20, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Film in Which There Appear Edge Lettering, Sprocket Holes, Dirt Particles, Etc.
- ... that Owen Land's Film in Which There Appear Edge Lettering, Sprocket Holes, Dirt Particles, Etc. features looped footage of a woman blinking, as well as edge lettering, sprocket holes and dirt particles?
Created by Ackatsis (talk). Self nom at 14:23, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed: Pryor Mountains Wild Horse Range
- Comment: This hook is 204 characters with spaces, but a lot of that is taken up by the title. If that won't do, we can try the more succinct:
- ALT1: that Owen Land's Film in Which There Appear Edge Lettering, Sprocket Holes, Dirt Particles, Etc. features edge lettering, sprocket holes and dirt particles? Ackatsis (talk) 14:38, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Southwestern pygmy possum
- ... that the female southwestern pygmy possum can give birth just two days after weaning a previous litter, even though this requires dramatic changes to her mammary glands?
5x expanded by Anaxial (talk). Self nom at 21:07, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed: Enoch T. Nix
All checks out on the DYK rules but I fear all the hits for this hook will go to the mammary gland article. Perhaps unlinking that and using the more mysterious sounding alternate name of the animal would attract more interest? i.e
- ALT1 ... that the female mundarda can give birth just two days after weaning a previous litter, even though this requires dramatic changes to her mammary glands? - Basement12 (T.C) 23:29, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Assuming that DYK rules are okay with using (though not linking to) a redirect, rather than the main article title, that's fine with me. Hadn't even thought about the mammary issue! Anaxial (talk) 23:43, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
for ALT1. If anyone sees a problem with the piping (they might) then the full article name can easily be used - Basement12 (T.C) 00:00, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Assuming that DYK rules are okay with using (though not linking to) a redirect, rather than the main article title, that's fine with me. Hadn't even thought about the mammary issue! Anaxial (talk) 23:43, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Exeligmos
- ... that an Exeligmos is a solar eclipse that occurs about every 54 years with nearly identical properties as the previous one occurs and at nearly the same location on the earth?
- Comment: Article expanded from redirect
Created by Timl2k4 (talk). Self nom at 02:09, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Can't accept because article, apart from intro, is only a tabular presentation with lots of enlarged images. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:47, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Sun Weishi
- ... that China's first female director was adopted by the first Premier of the People's Republic of China (pictured)?
Created by Ferox Seneca (talk). Self nom at 04:47, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Offline source accepted in good faith, hook, date, and length legitimate. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:44, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Note: The image needs alt-text/roll-over text if it will be used. - AnakngAraw (talk) 04:40, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- I've added alt- and rollover- text to the image. Please check and confirm that these are correct and appropriate. Ferox Seneca (talk) 22:09, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 11
Percé Rock
- ... that the Percé Rock (pictured), is one of the largest and spectacular Natural arches in the world and is an icon of the Quebec province?
5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 08:21, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Kidney trade in Iran.--Nvvchar. 08:36, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Answers for Americans
- ... that the 1953-1954 ABC public affairs program, Answers for Americans was among the first to offer conservative political ideology to viewers?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:47, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed KMGM
Perth Amboy City Hall
- ... that Perth Amboy City Hall, originally built 1714–1717, is the oldest city hall building in the USA?
Created by Djflem (talk). Self nom at 06:40, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Looks good to me. There is the potential for confusion given that the building has been (almost entirely) rebuilt at least once, and some sources only claim it's the oldest such building in continuous use (was it really continuous?), but others verify the claim made in the hook. Date is fine; length is fine; hook is also fine. One might consider changing "USA" to "United States". --Stemonitis (talk) 20:35, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Bill Sargent
- ... that, to avoid a league rule that banned participation, American football coach Bill Sargent agreed to release (and later re-sign) his players before an all-star game organized by boxer Joe Louis?
Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 04:36, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Bearded Mountaineer
Good to go Thelmadatter (talk) 01:00, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Judge for Yourself
- ... that the comedian Fred Allen was from 1953-1954 the emcee of the NBC variety and game show, Judge for Yourself, prior to joining the cast of CBS's What's My Line?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:38, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed: Carl M. Kuttler, Jr.
- ALT 1:... that comedian Fred Allen was the emcee of the NBC variety and game show, Judge for Yourself, from 1953-1954 prior to joining the cast of CBS's What's My Line? - AnakngAraw (talk) 04:37, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reassembled hook thus resulting to ALT 1 above. - AnakngAraw (talk) 04:37, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Bearded Helmetcrest
- ... that the Bearded Helmetcrest of the high páramo of Colombia and Venezuela ranges to an altitude of 5,200 metres (17,100 ft)?
5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 23:59, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that the Bearded Helmetcrest of the high páramo of Colombia and Venezuela is a hummingbird... with a beard and a crest?
- ALT2 ... that the Bearded Helmetcrest of the high páramo of Colombia and Venezuela nests in the daisy Espeletia?
All checks out for all three suggested hooks, but I like Alt2 best. Image is in public domain. Moonraker (talk) 00:06, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- NB: I reviewed Heryford Brothers Building. Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:52, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Carl M. Kuttler, Jr.
... that retired St. Petersburg College president Carl M. Kuttler, Jr., telephoned and sent a card to each of the one thousand full-time college employees on the occasion of their birthdays?
- Reviewed: List of Field Marshals of the British Army ([35])
2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Yoninah (talk). Self nom at 23:33, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
-
- The rewrite seems stilted to me. How about:
- ALT1: ... that as president of St. Petersburg College, Carl M. Kuttler, Jr. used to phone and send a card to each of the college's 1,000 full-time employees on their birthdays? Yoninah (talk) 08:52, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
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Billy Hathorn (talk) 13:52, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Heryford Brothers Building
- ... that the Heryford Brothers Building in Lakeview, Oregon, cost $100,000 to construct in 1913, and is still one of the most important commercial buildings in the city?
- Comment: Source of building cost is Historical Resource Survey of Lakeview, Oregon, p. 16; and National Register of Historic Places Inventory Nomination Form Section 8, para 1 says it's still “monumental building” today.
Created by Orygun (talk). Self nom at 23:20, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
size, date and sourcing check out. nice image. Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:50, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Units check. It says 54,000 square feet. Please provide a conversion for metric readers. Lightmouse (talk) 17:51, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Bearded Mountaineer
- ... that the Bearded Mountaineer visits tobacco plants along the roadsides in Peru?
5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 22:28, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Everything checks out. Clever hook. (I added a link to Peru). Strikehold (talk) 04:43, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- NB: reviewed Barbara Longhi Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:00, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Tisa Chang
- ... that since Tisa Chang's establishment of Pan Asian Repertory Theatre in 1977, it has become easier for Asian Americans to find roles in New York City?
- ALT1:... that Tisa Chang's father performed in school plays at Nankai University together with Zhou Enlai, who went on to become the Premier of the People's Republic of China?
Created by Theleftorium (talk). Self nom at 21:45, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
After review, I could say that ALT 1 hook is sourced, length ok, newness ok. I can't find what ref is for the original hook. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:36, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Museo de la Laca and the Santo Domingo monastery
- ... that a significant part of the former Santo Domingo monastery in Chiapa de Corzo, Chiapas is taken up by a museum dedicated entirely to lacquerware?
Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 20:46, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- REVIEWED Lament for Ur, Eku Thelmadatter (talk) 21:00, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Disney bomb
- ... that the British Disney bomb from the Second World War is thought to have been inspired by a fictional bomb that was featured in a Walt Disney cartoon documentary
- ALT1: that the British Disney bomb from the Second World War was devised by a former part-time judge, and is thought to have been inspired by a fictional bomb, featured in a Walt Disney cartoon documentary
5x expanded by Catsmeat (talk). Self nom at 17:50, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Well-written article; I touched up the hook a little bit. I think it's good to go, using the main hook. DCI2026 (talk) 22:45, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
What about?
- ALT2 ... that the British Disney bomb from the Second World War is thought to have been inspired by a fictional bomb featured in Walt Disney cartoon documentary Victory Through Air Power? IMHO giving the name of the documentary adds to the hook, balancing it. --Alberto Fernandez Fernandez (talk) 08:30, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
How about ALT3 more hooky? Jim Sweeney (talk) 07:10, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- ... that the Disney bomb of World War II is thought to have been inspired by a Walt Disney cartoon?
Jean-Marie Tjibaou Cultural Centre
- ... that the Cultural Centre (pictured) in New Caledonia, named after Jean-Marie Tjibaou, leader of the New Caledonian independent movement blends the linguistic and artistic heritage of the Kanak people?
5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 12:10, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Comment: The article was moved from my user space to main space today.--Nvvchar. 12:10, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
size, date and refs ok. Hook is fluffy. I have a better idea which I will word out below: Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:43, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
ALT1... that the Cultural Centre (pictured) in New Caledonia, was designed and built to echo the hut dwellings of the indigenous Kanak people?
- Thanks. ALT1 Hook is fine.--Nvvchar. 08:32, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
The Founding of a Party
- ... that actress Tang Wei's role in the upcoming Chinese film The Founding of a Party was cut following an objection by Mao Zedong's grandson, Mao Xinyu?
5x expanded by Benlisquare (talk). Self nom at 12:04, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the upcoming Chinese film The Founding of a Party stars a total cast of 108 Chinese celebrity actors, including Andy Lau and Chow Yun-fat?
- ALT2: ... that the release of the upcoming Chinese film The Founding of a Party is timed to mark the 90th anniversary of the Communist Party of China?
- ALT3: ... that the upcoming Chinese film The Founding of a Party details on the creation of the Communist Party of China?
- ALT4: ... that the theatrical releases of Transformers: Dark of the Moon and Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part Two in China were delayed by six weeks due to upcoming Chinese film The Founding of a Party?
- Comment: It is preferable if this DYK can appear on the main page on 15 June 2011, which is the release date for the film. In this case, "upcoming film" can be replaced by whatever that makes sense at the time the DYK appears (e.g. "recent Chinese film", "recently released Chinese film", or just "Chinese film"). -- 李博杰 | —Talk contribs email 12:05, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
International Christian Concern
- ... that in 2011, International Christian Concern lauded the release of an Afghan man who had been imprisoned for nine months for converting to Christianity?
- Created by/self nom --Epeefleche (talk) 07:49, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed 1978 FA Charity Shield
Length, date and ref 18 to hook verified. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 12:18, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Vaikuntha Kamalaja
- ... that the Hindu deity Vaikuntha Kamalaja is depicted half-female?
Created by Redtigerxyz (talk). Self nom at 03:52, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Length, date, and hook fact check out. However, I think the lead should be expanded a bit (just a couple sentences) and the hook should have a little more context, if possible. Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:26, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed #Agus Salim. --Redtigerxyz Talk 04:15, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Changed the lead a little and expanded the lead. --Redtigerxyz Talk 15:50, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Looks good. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:15, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Beau (poem)
- ... that when James Stewart recited his poem "Beau" on The Tonight Show, he moved host Johnny Carson to tears?
Created by Ackatsis (talk). Self nom at 05:34, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Date, length and hook all check out. — Hunter Kahn 23:11, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed: Somerset County Cricket Club in 1948
Walter von Loë
- ... that Field Marshal Walter von Loë was one of the few German Catholics to rise high in rank during the 19th century?
Created by DCI2026 (talk). Self nom at 22:50, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Note: This seems to be a translation of an article from the German wikipedia, as the sources are de.wikipedia.org. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:15, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Seeing as Wikipedia is not a source that can be cited on Wikipedia, this hook is a no-go, unless reliable sources can be added. Manxruler (talk) 09:23, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- I have posted this on the article's talk page, but I'll ask it here, too: it is acceptable to use the sources found on the German wikipedia as references for my article? DCI2026 (talk) 15:54, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Sure. Some of the sources used at German Wiki are available via the Internet, others are books. Whatever you have access to, you can of course use. If you can get the books, use them. You can read German, use the German web sources. One thing you need to do with the reference you've already added, is to format it properly, to clarify what it is. Manxruler (talk) 16:37, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Wilfred (U.S. TV series)
- ... that the upcoming FX television series Wilfred is based on the Australian series of the same name and will star series co-creator Jason Gann in the titular role of Wilfred the dog?
Created by Boycool42 (talk). Self nom at 18:39, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 12
Who Said That?
- ... that the television game show Who Said That? began in 1947 as an NBC radio program, with host John Cameron Swayze?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 23:10, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
:Reviewed Wayne Greenhaw
Cornélie Falcon
- ... that the career of soprano Cornélie Falcon, star of the Paris Opéra, collapsed after she lost her voice in 1837 perfoming in the opera Stradella by Louis Niedermeyer?
5x expanded by Robert.Allen (talk), Smerus (talk). Nominated by Smerus (talk) at 16:13, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Would like someone else to check this – WP:DYKCHECK reports no 5x expansion, but it seems that expansion started on 12 June with this edit (485 characters of prose) whereas now it's 4875 characters (>10x). Otherwise sources taken in good faith, interesting hook! matt (talk) 16:45, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Or alternatively:
Stradella (opera)
- ... that the career of soprano Cornélie Falcon, star of the Paris Opéra, collapsed after she lost her voice in 1837 perfoming in the opera Stradella by Louis Niedermeyer?
Created by Smerus (talk). Self nom at 19:48, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Charles M. Robinson
- ... that Charles M. Robinson (example of work pictured) was the College Architect for the College of William and Mary and designed more than 15 buildings listed on the National Register of Historic Places?
Converted from a redirect by Doncram (talk), further edited and improved by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 14:17, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Looks good. We need more good architect articles like this. --Elkman (Elkspeak) 22:14, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Kidney trade in Iran
- ... that Iran is currently the only country in the world that has no waiting lists for kidney transplantation due to its donor compensation program?
Created by Calmer Waters (talk). Self nom at 03:50, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
DYK rules verified. Good to go. Very useful information. I wish I had known earlier, it could have saved one of my siblings.--Nvvchar. 08:32, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
McPike Mansion
- ... that the McPike Mansion in Alton, Illinois, is reputed to be one of the most haunted houses in North America?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 12:00, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed Villa de Etla.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:09, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
KMGM
- ... that Minnesota's KMGM is unrelated to the radio station launched by Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer as KMGM in 1948?
- Reviewed: Indian Head eagle ([36])
Created by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 07:01, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Libyan National Movement
- ... that with support from the Iraqi government, the exiled Libyan National Movement produced magazines and audio cassettes that were secretly smuggled into Libya during the 1980s?
Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 02:11, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Comment just driving by, but isn't "secretly smuggled" redundant?--Wehwalt (talk) 12:15, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Libyan National Democratic Front
- ... that Mahmoud Shammam, the Head of Information of the Libyan National Transitional Council, was one of the leaders of the Marxist Libyan National Democratic Front in the 1980s?
Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 02:07, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Villa de Etla
- ... that at Villa de Etla's weekly market in Oaxaca, Mexico one can find traditional merchandise such a local variety of white cheese, frames for donkeys and goat barbacoa prepared in a earthen oven?
5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 00:56, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- REVIEWED Bill Sargent Thelmadatter (talk) 01:00, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Good to go.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:06, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Pinaglahuan
- ... that Faustino Aguilar's Pinaglahuan ("Fading Point") is one of the first novels in the Philippines to tackle social realism?
Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 00:23, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- See my reviews all over this page.- AnakngAraw (talk) 00:24, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Novelty (created 12 June), length (400 char lead + 1700 char body), hook inline-sourced from two refs, all look OK. The article is readable as a self-contained article. It's short, but that's not surprising for a new article. No obvious problems. More refs and response of critics, social actors (newspapers, politicians, intellectuals - did this stimulate social change?) during the XX-th century would be an obvious development. Was the book very popular? read by the masses? convinced the middle class that the working class should be supported? Censored by the powers-that-be? In any case, looks sufficient for DYK. Boud (talk) 03:03, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Indian Head eagle
- ... that President Theodore Roosevelt threatened to have Mint Engraver Charles E. Barber decapitated if he did not cooperate in the issuance of new gold coins, including the Indian Head eagle (pictured)?
Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 00:15, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Moon Ducote.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:20, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Length, dates (moved from Sandbox on June 12), and sourcing are all just fine but it's the hook itself that gives me pause. Yes, it's hook-y, but it's a bit of second-hand hyperbole that applied to an artist's work with the Mint in general, not this specific coin. There's a better, more specific hook to be had with the "In God We Trust" controversy or the inspiration from an ancient Egyptian coin. - Dravecky (talk) 06:58, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Oh OK. ALT1: .. that due to President Theodore Roosevelt's objection, the Indian Head eagle (pictured) originally lacked the motto In God We Trust, and that Congress passed a law in 1908 to require its use?? --Wehwalt (talk) 12:18, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Moon Ducote
- ... that Auburn player Moon Ducote (pictured) kicked a 40-yard field goal off a football helmet, which caused a rule to be adopted against the practice?
Created/expanded by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 23:29, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Eucalyptus expressa
All looks good, ready to go.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:02, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- i corrected "off of", which is "considered incorrect by most authorities and is not suitable for formal or business use", too to "off". See the wiktionary entry from for details. Boud (talk) 02:34, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Cry of Asencio
- ... that Uruguayan patriots made the Cry of Asencio and captured the villages of Mercedes and Santo Domingo de Soriano in a single day?
- Reviewed: Motor Transport and Traffic Unit
Created by Cambalachero (talk). Self nom at 22:15, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
All checks out. The reference is in Spanish so assume good faith. Ready to go Harrison49 (talk) 00:06, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Building and Road Research Institute
- ... that in 1963 the Building and Road Research Institute of Ghana relocated to the KNUST campus so that the institute's staff could lecture at the university due to university under-staffing?
Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 20:11, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Ivan Wettengel [[37]]
Insufficient citations are provided — much of the text isn't cited at all, and the only source for this article is the organisation's own website. Could you bring in some third-party coverage? Nyttend (talk) 00:38, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Chris Clarke (footballer)
- ... that association footballer Chris Clarke and his twin brother Matthew started their careers at the same club, Wolverhampton Wanderers?
5x expanded by Mattythewhite (talk). Self nom at 19:42, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Date, expansion confirmed. AGF on book source quoted. Good to go. Mjroots (talk) 10:12, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Ivan Wettengel
- ... that Ivan Wettengel, 25th Naval Governor of Guam, once formed a bull-mounted military unit known as the Guam Cavalry (pictured)?
- Reviewed: National Road Safety Commission ([38])
Created by Scapler (talk). Self nom at 19:17, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Length, date, hook all check out. Ready to go.-- CrossTempleJay → talk 20:05, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
National Road Safety Commission
- ... that according to statistics from its National Road Safety Commission, Ghana loses US$230 million yearly due to road accidents?
Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 17:23, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Gugun Blues Shelter [[39]]
Everything looks good. Cited, long enough, and created soon enough. かんぱい! Scapler (talk) 19:11, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Victoria Roberts (cartoonist)
- ... that Victoria Roberts received an Australian Bicentennial grant for Australia Felix, a cartoon history of Australia?
Created by 216.173.15.51 (talk), Levinegreenberg (talk). Nominated by Quasihuman (talk) at 16:48, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Note that this article was suggested to WP:AFC on 20 May 2011, and was approved & moved to article space on 12 June. DYK check lists the date of creation as 20 May, but I think this qualifies as per the userspace rule, because it wasn't in article space at that time. Quasihuman | Talk 16:48, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Length seems ok, ref ok, hook ok, can someone just reverify creation date. Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 20:06, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Motor Transport and Traffic Unit
- ... that Motor Transport and Traffic Unit of the Ghana Police Service was established in 1952?
5x expanded by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 16:28, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Gugun Blues Shelter [[40]]
You need to fix some titles, and remove the "of the unit" from them. All section titles are considered to be about the topic of the article unless noted otherwise ("Functions" alone would clearly mean "Functions of the unit"). "Road offenders" and "Funding" have empty lines and generate extra white space, fix that as well. Cambalachero (talk) 22:08, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Issues raised have been addressed.CTJ23:21, 12 June 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.201.51.19 (talk)
Good to go Cambalachero (talk) 23:54, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Ekapada
- ... that the one-footed form of the Hindu deity Shiva represents the cosmic pillar of the world?
Created by Redtigerxyz (talk). Self nom at 11:58, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
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Sweet. Nice job. Jsayre64 (talk) 17:48, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, but this is not OK. The article needs to be proofread very, very carefully: there are punctuation errors aplenty and errors with articles (even in the hook). This article is not ready to go to the front page; sorry. Drmies (talk) 02:42, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- I gave it a once-over (and inserted a "the" in the hook); have a look now. Yngvadottir (talk) 04:26, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Cyril Perkins
- ... that Cyril Perkins is the oldest living first-class cricketer?
Created by AssociateAffiliate (talk). Self nom at 13:10, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
All checks out - ready to go. Harrison49 (talk) 13:42, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Barbara Longhi
- ... that Barbara Longhi's 1589 painting Saint Catherine of Alexandria (pictured) is believed to actually be a self-portrait?
Created by Mandarax (talk). Self nom at 07:54, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
• Reviewed: English Pouter (diff) MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 08:06, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
size, age and referencing ok - good to go. Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:59, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
1978 FA Charity Shield
- ... that Ipswich Town lost 5–0 to Nottingham Forest in the 1978 FA Charity Shield, the second time Ipswich conceded five goals in the competition held annually between the previous season's FA Cup winners and Football League champions?
Created by The Rambling Man (talk). Self nom at 17:18, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
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- Hi -- the hook needs a bit of trimming (35 characters) to bring it w/in the 200-character limit. Otherwise, the article is of sufficient length, and is new, and the main fact in the hook is supported by the refs.--Epeefleche (talk) 16:35, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- What about just : " ... that Ipswich Town lost 5–0 to Nottingham Forest in the 1978 FA Charity Shield, the competition held annually between the previous season's FA Cup winners and Football League champions?" The Rambling Man (talk) 06:27, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hi -- the hook needs a bit of trimming (35 characters) to bring it w/in the 200-character limit. Otherwise, the article is of sufficient length, and is new, and the main fact in the hook is supported by the refs.--Epeefleche (talk) 16:35, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 13
Robert Erskine (coach)
- ... that Oklahoma football coach Robert "Doc" Erskine traveled over 15,000 miles as a scout during one one season?
Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 01:19, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Duployan shorthand
Povey Brothers Studio
- ... that stained glass from the Povey Brothers Studio has been used in at least 35 buildings in Oregon listed on the National Register of Historic Places?
- Reviewed: Charles M. Robinson ([41])
Created by Valfontis (talk). Nominated by Elkman (talk) at 22:09, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
There is not statement to this fact in the article. There are 35 buildings listed in the "Listed on the NRHP in Oregon" subsection with at least two stating that the windows are attributed to Povey, not certified as such. I think this hook needs to be better cited, especially since no one wants to go through all 30+ citations to verify each building.Thelmadatter (talk) 00:42, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- OK, how about:
- ... that the Povey Brothers Studio was known as the "Tiffany of the Northwest" for their stained glass, which is still found in many buildings on the National Register of Historic Places?
Glas (book)
[[:File:Derridaglas.jpg|100x100px|A page from Derrida's Glas|alt=A page from Jacques Derrida's Glas]]
- ... that Glas, a 1974 text by Jacques Derrida, contains two columns of text, one commenting on Hegel and the other on Genet, woven around and separated by quotations?
5x expanded by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 18:08, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed two entries with my last nomination.
Kyrle Bellew
- ... that British stage-actor Kyrle Bellew (pictured in costume) was accused of being Mrs. Leslie Carter's lover at her 1889 divorce trial?
Created by Koplimek (talk), expanded by User:Froggerlaura (talk). Nominated by Froggerlaura (talk) at 03:13, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Henryk Kuna
- ALT image:
Samuel Bogart
- ... that after murdering a man in Missouri, Samuel Bogart fled to Texas, where he became a Texas Ranger and a member of the State Legislature?
Created by Ecjmartin (talk). Self nom at 02:53, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
There is no inline citation for him becoming a Texas Ranger. Also, the first section of the article does not contain any inline citations. For DYK, there should generally be at least one inline citation per paragraph. I bolded the article in the hook. --E♴(talk) 03:47, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Done. Please let me know if there are any other issues, and I'll see what I can do. Thanks! - Ecjmartin (talk) 11:55, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Riede's City Bakery
- ... that the former Riede's City Bakery building (pictured) is one of only two wood frame commercial buildings remaining in Aspen, Colorado, from its early boomtown years?
- Reviewed: 2011 Sabha clashes ([42])
Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 22:47, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Article passes length requirement and references. Gamweb (talk) 01:01, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
`Ulaysha Prison
- ... that on the Saudi Arabian "Day of Rage", Khaled al-Johani, "the only brave man in Saudi Arabia", was imprisoned at `Ulaysha Prison run by the secret police in Riyadh?
- Reviewed: Pinaglahuan ([Pinaglahuan])
- Comment: Hook text: "was" vs "is" imprisoned: It's a reasonable guess that al-Johani is still, as of 13 June 2011[update], being held at `Ulaysha Prison, but this is not sourced, which is why i have proposed "was" in the hook, to be conservative. The HRW and AOL sources from April state imprisonment in `Ulaysha (transliterated "Alysha" by HRW and "‘Ulaisha" by AOL). The BBC report from May says he was imprisoned without stating where, so it's consistent with HRW and AOL. The absence of a google-obvious report on his release suggests that he's still imprisoned, but even in that case, he could have been transferred to al-Ha'ir Prison, which seems to happen to some Mabahith "guests". So changing "was" to "is" would be not (as of 21:49, 13 June 2011 (UTC)) supported by the sources.
Created by Boud (talk). Self nom at 21:49, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Date, length, hook all o.k. Interesting subject. The hook seems right to me: he was thrown into prison on that date is how I read it, not he happened to be in prison on that date. Aymatth2 (talk) 18:23, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- Stray thought, maybe some other editor wants to comment: the hook is more blue links than not. The hook should focus attention on the DYK article, which contains the other links. Also, the hook is a bit long. How about a simpler ALT1 below? Aymatth2 (talk) 19:24, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Khaled al-Johani, "the only brave man in Saudi Arabia", was thrown into `Ulaysha Prison on the Saudi Arabian "Day of Rage"?
- Stray thought, maybe some other editor wants to comment: the hook is more blue links than not. The hook should focus attention on the DYK article, which contains the other links. Also, the hook is a bit long. How about a simpler ALT1 below? Aymatth2 (talk) 19:24, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Aenigmastacus
- ... that Aenigmastacus, a fossil crayfish from Canada, belongs to a family only otherwise known from the Southern Hemisphere?
- Reviewed: Perth Amboy City Hall ([43])
Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 20:40, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Good to go. Arsenikk (talk) 21:51, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
John Arthur (philosopher)
- ... that American philosopher John Arthur helped organized a lawsuit against the state of Tennessee to address racial segregation in the higher education system?
Created by Arbitrarily0 (talk). Self nom at 17:55, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Justice League Dark
This is my first DYK review, so a double check would be appropriate. Size and date are ok. Fixed some close paraphrasing. Hook wasn't cited, but I found the information in one of the references and placed an inline citation. It's good to go, although the hook seems a little weak and not very "quirky".--v/r - TP 22:25, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the fixes, TParis. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 22:41, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Looks fine to me. Drmies (talk) 03:00, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Jaime Areizaga-Soto
- ... that Jaime Areizaga-Soto, the Senior Advisor to the Virginia Senate Democratic Caucus Chair, Senator Mary Margaret Whipple, is now running for the Senate?
- Reviewed: Eddie Reed
Created by Racepacket (talk). Self nom at 16:33, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Dull hook. Former legislative staffer runs for seat in legislature themselves. Happens all the time. Dog bites man. Daniel Case (talk) 22:32, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Also, the ref for "Senior advisor" only says "Policy Advisor"--v/r - TP 22:36, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Justice League Dark
- ... that as part of the DC Universe reboot, Justice League Dark has been launched featuring some of DC Comics' stranger, supernatural characters?
Created by Bennydigital (talk). Self nom at 16:26, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Still needs about 1,000 more characters of prose to be eligible (see criteria here). Do you think you can expand it some more? Arbitrarily0 (talk) 18:11, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- I think that's it expanded, although as more info comes out, I will be trying to keep this one spruced! Benny Digital Speak Your Brains 08:17, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
2011 Sabha clashes
- ... that on 11 June 2011, anti-Gaddafi tribesmen seized a major residential district in the Libyan desert city of Sabha, long considered to be a stronghold of support for Muammar Gaddafi in the 2011 Libyan civil war?
Created by Lothar von Richthofen (talk). Self nom at 16:17, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Length, history and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 22:41, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Ukrainian American Veterans
- ... that the Ukrainian American Veterans organization placed a Memorial Plaque at the USS Arizona Memorial in Pearl Harbor, Honolulu, Hawaii, in 1980?
Created by Gamweb (talk). Self nom at 00:47, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Riede's City Bakery - Gamweb (talk) 01:04, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Date, length, refs and hook are all valid. Nice article! Good to go. SteveStrummer (talk) 02:08, 14 June 2011 (UTC).
Eddie Reed
- ... that college football coach Eddie Reed (pictured) led the Loyola University of New Orleans to its only undefeated season in school history?
Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 08:30, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Hillingdon Court
hook, length and age of article all check out. Racepacket (talk) 16:25, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- ... that 25-year old Eddie Reed (pictured), one of the youngest college football coaches in the United States, led the Loyola University of New Orleans to its only undefeated season in school history?
- Note: I added the part about him being one of the youngest coaches, which makes it a somewhat more compelling hook in my opinion. Strikehold (talk) 01:48, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Busabos ng Palad
- ... that in writing Busabos ng Palad (Pauper of Fate), Filipino author Faustino Aguilar was influenced by Alexander Dumas' novel about a prostitute with a golden heart?
Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 04:30, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- See my reviews all over this page.- AnakngAraw (talk) 04:33, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Hillingdon Court
- ... that after a bomb burst through her bedroom wall, a resident of Hillingdon Court told staff it was time she went to the air raid shelter?
- Reviewed: Cry of Asencio
Created by Harrison49 (talk). Self nom at 00:06, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Hook, length, and date check out. AGF on the reference. Strikehold (talk) 08:34, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 14
ZenQuest Martial Arts Center
- ... that ZenQuest Martial Arts Center in Lenox, Massachusetts was originally founded in Pittsfield, Massachusetts in 1972 as the Okinawan Karate School, and introduced Uechi-ryu karate to Berkshire County?
Created by 3family6 (talk). Self nom at 02:19, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Vochol
- ... that the Vochol is a Volkswagon Beetle decorated with 2,277,000 beads?
Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 00:34, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- REVIEWED Povey Brothers Studio.... Im working on getting one or more photos as it would make a huge difference. (See link to the Vochol's web page) OK by me to hold off on this one for a spell until I can get the photo.Thelmadatter (talk) 00:44, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Noel F. Parrish
- ... that the most prestigious award of the association of World War II's black US airmen, the Tuskegee Airmen, is named for Noel F. Parrish, their white commanding officer?
Created by BarkingMoon (talk). Self nom at 00:23, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Richard Cleveland Drew, BarkingMoon (talk) 00:31, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- I was stunned there was so much info on Parrish and that he did not yet have an article. Fascinating story. Many hook possible here. ALTs welcome. BarkingMoon (talk) 00:31, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Purushanda
- ... that the city-state of Purushanda in central Anatolia was surrendered by its king to the Hittite ruler Anitta in the 17th century BC?
Created by Prioryman (talk). Self nom at 22:52, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Peter C. Shannon Prioryman (talk) 22:57, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Celestial City, Imeko
- ... that Celestial City, Imeko was founded by the Prophet "Papa" Samuel Oshoffa, who left 34 wives and 150 children when he died?
- Reviewed: `Ulaysha Prison ([44])
Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 18:29, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Peter C. Shannon
- "...that Dakota Territory judge Peter C. Shannon presided over the trial of Jack McCann and sentenced him to hang for killing Wild Bill Hickok?
Created by Brianyoumans (talk). Self nom at 17:47, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Checked out - length, date etc. are all fine. Good to go. Prioryman (talk) 22:57, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Genetic Studios
- ... that when he established Genetic Studios in 1980, record producer Martin Rushent spent £35,000 on air conditioning alone?
Created by Mattgirling (talk). Self nom at 16:39, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed #Cornélie Falcon. matt (talk) 16:46, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Hook, date, and length all appear to check out. Strikehold (talk) 04:47, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Wayne Greenhaw
- ... that Alabama author Wayne Greenhaw (1940-2011) chronicled the civil rights movement in the South?
Created by Drmies (talk), LadyofShalott (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 15:26, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Gelobet sei der Herr, mein Gott, BWV 129 and Adamah, below. Drmies (talk) 15:29, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Adamah
- ... that Maimonides believed the word adam was derived from the word adamah?
- Comment: History goes back to 2002, but the article was previously deleted via a deletion discussion, and I had the history restored via deletion review
Created by Anthem of joy (talk). Self nom at 11:50, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
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Anthem, you should get a frigging barnstar for resurrecting adam/ah. Well done. I wonder, is there a feastday or other celebration in the near future that this might be appropriate for? Drmies (talk) 15:33, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Has been deleted and moved to Wikipedia:Article incubator/Adamah. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:55, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
RMS Magdalena (1948)
- ... that RMS Magdalena was the third ship lost on her maiden voyage that had been built by Harland & Wolff, Belfast?
Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 09:20, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Length, Date, and Ref all good. --E♴(talk) 15:48, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- Link check. The ratio between high and low value links needs improving. A lot of plain or common terms can be delinked e.g. 'Australia', 'Argentina', 'Brazil', 'kilometre', 'nautical mile', 'metre', 'pound sterling' 'mails' (should be 'mail' anyway).
- Units check. It may be an improvement to use symbols for units in the infobox rather than full forms.
- I'm not so sure that all those terms are "common" anyway. As for the links, that is entirely in accordance with building the encyclopedia by allowing easy navigation between articles. What's wrong with "feet and inches" anyway? Just a matter of preference, mine is for the full units to be used in infoboxes. Mjroots (talk) 18:59, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Sabellastarte spectabilis
- ... that the featherduster worm Sabellastarte spectabilis (pictured) sometimes grows in crevices in cauliflower coral?
- Reviewed: Clarendon Tower
Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self nom at 09:13, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Length, Date and Ref are all good. --E♴(talk) 15:51, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Dan Hamilton, Antoine Malick
- ... that a kiss between Dan Hamilton and Antoine Malick in the UK medical drama Holby City was criticised for "following the trend" of depicting gay relationships?
- Reviewed: Jerry Della Femina ([45])
- Comment: Both articles moved from userspace to the mainspace on 14 June.
Created by Raintheone (talk), Frickative (talk). Self nom at 04:26, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Clarendon Tower
- ... that the Canterbury Earthquake Recovery Authority has ordered the demolition of the Clarendon Tower (pictured) due to damage from the 2011 Christchurch earthquake?
- Reviewed: Samuel Bogart ([46])
Created by Schwede66 (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by E2eamon (talk) at 03:51, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Date, length and hook are fine. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:04, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Henryk Kuna
- ... that a public monument in Poland by the sculptor Henryk Kuna was dismantled by the Nazis, but the site still served as a popular meeting place for political dissidents in the 1980s?
Created by SteveStrummer (talk). Self nom at 03:44, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Ukrainian American Veterans
Barely squeaks by at 1600 characters, but creation date and citations check out. Might I suggest inserting "...dismantled by the Nazis, but the site still served." Currently the hook implies it was the original monument. Froggerlaura (talk) 06:24, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Bullskin Creek Site
- ... that a cache of religious artifacts distinguishes the Bullskin Creek Site from similar archaeological sites in the middle Ohio River valley?
- ALT1
- ... that a cache of shaman's articles distinguishes the Bullskin Creek Site from similar archaeological sites in the middle Ohio River valley?
- Reviewed: Building and Road Research Institute
Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 00:44, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Hook, length, and date check out. Article is well cited. AGF on reference the hook comes from. I'd like to make a suggestion for a hook.--v/r - TP 01:32, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that unlike other archaeological sites in the Ohio River valley, archeologists have found a cache shaman articles at the Bullskin Creek Site?
- This may be true, but it's not in the source. The source is talking about the central Ohio valley, and only Archaic sites are in view: not necessarily the five that they call "Central Ohio Valley Archaic", but definitely neither sites in all locations in the valley nor all sites in this part of the valley. Nyttend (talk) 04:04, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT3 ... that unlike many other archaeological sites in the middle Ohio River valley, archeologists have found a cache shaman articles at the Bullskin Creek Site?
- How about this instead? I added "many" before "other" and I reapplied "middle" before "Ohio River". I think those paraphrases your original hooks.--v/r - TP 14:35, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- That's still not correct: it's a contrast with similar sites, not "many other" in general. The Archaic period was rather long ago; it's quite possible that shamans' caches have been found at many other sites in the region that are significantly newer, so the important part is that the other sites otherwise are rather similar to Bullskin Creek. Nyttend (talk) 18:23, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Alright, I see the disconnect here. Here's another suggestion--v/r - TP 19:18, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT4 ... that unlike similar archaeological sites in the middle Ohio River valley, archeologists have found a cache shaman articles at the Bullskin Creek Site?
Today!
Articles created/expanded on June 15
Aquille Carr
- ... that high school sophomore Aquille Carr was reportedly offered a US$750,000 contract by the Italian basketball club Lottomatica Virtus Roma?
Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 04:34, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Genetic Studios
Anthony Stewart (ice hockey)
- ... that Anthony Stewart believes that he was able to make it the the National Hockey League in part because a good samaritan picked him up while he was walking in a blizzard?
5x expanded by Leech44 (talk). Self nom at 03:05, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
review = TBD
- note the link to good samaritan might be better to use the wiktionary definition link. I think I've seen it done before but not sure how.--Mo Rock...Monstrous (leech44) 03:10, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Today! (Mississippi John Hurt album)
- ...that Mississippi John Hurt's (pictured) 1966 album Today! was one of the 25 recordings added to the National Recording Registry in 2009?
Created by BootleggerWill (talk). Self nom at 19:47, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Special occasion holding area
- Do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, please nominate them in the candidate entries section above under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially-timed appearance on the Main Page.
- Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual. Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination, but no more than six weeks before the occasion. April Fools' Day is an exception to these requirements - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.
June 18
White dress of Marilyn Monroe
- ... that the white dress which Marilyn Monroe wore in the 1955 film The Seven Year Itch is up for auction on June 18, 2011?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 15:35, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Length, date and references are all good but for such an iconic dress is a more eye-catching hook not possible? Unless the intention would be to save this hook until the day of the auction? Basement12 (T.C) 16:08, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- For if we save it for the 18th of June: ALT1 "... that the white dress which Marilyn Monroe wore in the 1955 film The Seven Year Itch is up for auction today?" Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:19, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- It's a good idea to save it for June 18. Additionally, the hook could mention the expected auction price of 1 to 2 million dollars. So:
- ALT2 "... that the white dress that Marilyn Monroe wore in the 1955 film The Seven Year Itch is up for auction today and may sell for one to two million dollars? --Orlady (talk) 05:22, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- A little shorter: ALT3 "... that the white dress that Marilyn Monroe wore in the 1955 film The Seven Year Itch is up for auction today and may fetch up to two million dollars?" Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:09, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
Source for the alts is fine, I'll check with the Dr that holding the nom for the day of the auction is ok. I guess a problem may arise if the auction is changed for any reason - this will need checking closer to the time - Basement12 (T.C) 12:56, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
ALT4... that Marilyn Monroe's white dress (pictured) from The Seven Year Itch is up for auction today and auction estimates range from one to two million dollars?... (And do DYK?s ever have pictures with them?) Shearonink (talk) 13:20, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- They can, but they must be free (i.e. not fair-use). Removing the image. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:42, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- How about this one then? Oh, and can we place this DYK into the Special occasion holding area for June 18th? Shearonink (talk) 14:15, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- We are waiting for the nom, Dr. Blofeld to agree. As to the picture, I am attempting to make a more complete one out of the public domain trailer. I am not very good with Photoshop, so we'll see if it can pass muster... I am going to assume that it could pass muster at 100px. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:22, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- How about this one then? Oh, and can we place this DYK into the Special occasion holding area for June 18th? Shearonink (talk) 14:15, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- It's a good idea to save it for June 18. Additionally, the hook could mention the expected auction price of 1 to 2 million dollars. So:
- I finished the image. I think it may be okay at 100px, but at larger resolutions... well, anyways, we seem to have a PD image. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:08, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- I think it looks great, but I guess it's up to the moving admins to include or not? Shearonink (talk) 15:15, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- Glad you like it. It could be refined by anyone who cared enough to make it look decent at a higher resolution. BTW, I contacted Moonriddengirl to ask about the copyright status. While we're at it: ALT4 "... that the white dress that Marilyn Monroe wore in the 1955 film The Seven Year Itch (pictured) is up for auction today and may fetch up to two million dollars?" Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:21, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- Looks great, thumbs-up from me. Paging Dr. Blofeld, paging Dr. Blofeld... --Shearonink (talk) 18:47, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- Glad you like it. It could be refined by anyone who cared enough to make it look decent at a higher resolution. BTW, I contacted Moonriddengirl to ask about the copyright status. While we're at it: ALT4 "... that the white dress that Marilyn Monroe wore in the 1955 film The Seven Year Itch (pictured) is up for auction today and may fetch up to two million dollars?" Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:21, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- I think it looks great, but I guess it's up to the moving admins to include or not? Shearonink (talk) 15:15, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- Dr. Blofeld has gone missing. I moved this to the special occasion area. Let's go with ALT4, with image, on June 18th. --Orlady (talk) 15:20, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- Comment: I have requested feedback regarding the copyright status of the image at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. There should be enough time to have it checked, but we may need to go with ALT2 or ALT3 if it is decided that it may not be a public domain image. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:25, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- Dr. Blofeld has gone missing. I moved this to the special occasion area. Let's go with ALT4, with image, on June 18th. --Orlady (talk) 15:20, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Should that not be, combining both of the ALT4s...
- ALT5... that the white dress (pictured) that Marilyn Monroe wore in the 1955 film The Seven Year Itch is up for auction today and may fetch up to two million dollars? - Basement12 (T.C) 22:28, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- ALT5 is nice too. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:23, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Well in the continued absence of Dr. Blofeld i'll give this a tick for alt4/alt5 on the 18 June on the proviso that it'll need to be checked that the auction is still happening - Basement12 (T.C) 07:06, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
- I contacted the Doctor and he said he's fine with the date. Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:27, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
- Not sure if I'm allowed to do this by the rules, but here's a review in lieu of Dr. Blofeld. Ales Bialatski diff. Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:33, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
- No comments at MCQ, so I guess the image may be okay. Difficult to tell. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:24, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Not sure if I'm allowed to do this by the rules, but here's a review in lieu of Dr. Blofeld. Ales Bialatski diff. Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:33, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
June 19
Rizal Law
- ... that the Catholic Church in the Philippines threatened to close all Catholic schools if the Rizal Bill of 1956 was passed (José Rizal pictured)?
- ALT1: that the debates to enact the Rizal Law (José Rizal pictured) in 1956 is compared to the current Reproductive Health bill debate in the Philippines?
- Comment: Suggest a June 19 date as it is Rizal's 150th birth anniversary.
Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 17:44, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
Hook, length, date check out. Good to go. ALT1 is more catchy.-- CrossTempleJay → talk 23:07, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Elections in Pichilemu. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 19:08, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Gelobet sei der Herr, mein Gott, BWV 129
- ... that Bach's cantata for Trinity Sunday, Gelobet sei der Herr, mein Gott, BWV 129, a chorale cantata on five stanzas, ends like his Christmas Oratorio, "punctuated by brass and orchestral fanfares"?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 12:26, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed: #Flåm Line, NSB El 9. Cantata suggested to appear on 19 June, to conclude a first "annual cycle". For the second I will not ask for Sundays, only holidays, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:36, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks Gerda for your continued contributions. Drmies (talk) 15:28, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
June 26
Gugun Blues Shelter
- ...
that Gugun Blues Shelter is an Indonesian band that has won Hard Rock Café's Global Battle Of The Bands competition, and is scheduled to perform alongside Bon Jovi, Rod Stewart and The Killers at Hyde Park on June 26?
Created by Redyka94 (talk). Self nom at 07:27, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Please show it on June 26, because they will perform in Hyde Park. αδζ ψακ φρψερ 07:27, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1
... that Indonesian blues band Gugun Blues Shelter is scheduled to perform alongside Bon Jovi, Rod Stewart and The Killers at Hyde Park on June 26? - or, if shown on June 26th
- ALT2... that Indonesian blues band Gugun Blues Shelter is scheduled to perform alongside Bon Jovi, Rod Stewart and The Killers at Hyde Park today?
- Note: This is the nominator's first self nomination. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:35, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
... that in 2011 Gugun Blues Shelter, an Indonesian band, won Hard Rock Café's Global Battle Of The Bands competition?
If it is ok with the author he can notify me for the tag. CrossTempleJay → talk 16:14, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- It seem, second ALT from Crisco is better. αδζ ψακ φρψερ 07:45, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
ALT2 is alright. Hook, length, date all check out. Good to go on the said date. CrossTempleJay → talk 19:44, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
July 1 (Canada Day)
Declaration of war by Canada
- ... that other than the Second World War, there has never been a declaration of war by Canada?
- Reviewed: Bardhyl Ajeti ([47])
- Comment: Could this hook be saved for an appearance on Canada Day (July 1)?
Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 11:49, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
date length and hook verified Jim Sweeney (talk) 22:03, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
- Moving it to Canada Day's section. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:10, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
- This is your ideal DYK. Punchy, short, arresting. Tony (talk) 16:58, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, Tony! OCNative (talk) 00:22, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
- This is your ideal DYK. Punchy, short, arresting. Tony (talk) 16:58, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- Moving it to Canada Day's section. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:10, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
Hockey: Canada's Royal Winter Game
- ... that Hockey: Canada's Royal Winter Game, published in 1899, was the first book on ice hockey, but only four copies are now known to exist?
- Reviewed: Czerwono-Czarni
Created by Maxim (talk). Self nom at 21:03, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
, accepting offline refs and suggest adding of project tags to talk page. BarkingMoon (talk) 01:00, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
- Might I suggest this be moved to the Special Occasion Holding Area for July 1, Canada Day? OCNative (talk) 11:11, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
- I don't have any particular preference as to when it's run. Do as you think is best. Maxim(talk) 19:39, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
Yay, hockey! Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:09, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
- Wikisource now has the complete copy. Possibly a link to it embedded in the text of the hook, from the anchor "book", or isn't that allowed? The focus of interest barely passes, IMO. What might inject impact into the hook could come from knowing how little was written about any sport in the terms taken by the book. That would require 15 mins of searching on your part. I'd love something like "... hockey]] and one of the most detailed of its day on any sport?" But only if it's true. :-) Tony (talk) 13:14, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
- It's difficult to judge with regards to a comparison, because only four copies of the book are known to exist. Would something like "... was the first book on ice hockey, but only four copies are known to exist?" work? I think external links are frowned upon in DYK, but maybe Wikisource could be an exception? This would be best answered by someone with more DYK experience. Maxim(talk) 16:58, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, works for me. Consider "still known to exist". Tony (talk) 13:50, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
- I've amended the hook per your suggestion. Thanks, Maxim(talk) 22:50, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
For clarity's sake, here's the icon. OCNative (talk) 12:34, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
July 12
Leroy Petry
... that on July 12, Leroy Petry (pictured) will become only the second living soldier to receive the Medal of Honor for actions since the end of the Vietnam War?
Created by TomPointTwo (talk), RightCowLeftCoast (talk). Nominated by Jwillbur (talk) at 00:42, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Hook, reference, length, and date all check out. Note that I added (pictured) to hook for image. Thanks, Ruby2010 comment! 00:49, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- Note: I listed the article creator (TomPointTwo) and the most prolific editor (RightCowLeftCoast) as the authors, but a number of others have added to the article as well. Also, can this item be held until the date of the presentation ceremony, July 12? — jwillbur 00:54, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- Wow, impeccable timing. Items can be held for a maximum of six weeks, and this article was created exactly six weeks before July 12. If the nominator consents to my ALT hook (or proposes another ALT hook), I will be happy to move this to the Special Occasion Holding Area (the ALT obviously only works on July 12):
ALT1... that today, Leroy Petry (pictured) becomes only the second living soldier to receive the Medal of Honor for actions after the end of the Vietnam War? OCNative (talk) 05:37, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- Wow, impeccable timing. Items can be held for a maximum of six weeks, and this article was created exactly six weeks before July 12. If the nominator consents to my ALT hook (or proposes another ALT hook), I will be happy to move this to the Special Occasion Holding Area (the ALT obviously only works on July 12):
- Your alt hook looks great, thank you. — jwillbur 06:32, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Based on Ruby2010's approval of the date, length, and references for this nomination, this is approved with ALT1 and moved to the Special Occasion Holding Area for July 12. OCNative (talk) 03:03, 6 June 2011 (UTC)