Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates

This page provides a place to discuss new items for inclusion on In the news (ITN), a protected template on the Main Page (see past items in the ITN archives). Do not report errors in ITN items that are already on the Main Page here— discuss those at the relevant section of WP:ERRORS.

This candidates page is integrated with the daily pages of Portal:Current events. A light green header appears under each daily section – it includes transcluded Portal:Current events items for that day. You can discuss ITN candidates under the header.

Alberto Fujimori in 1991 Former president of Peru Alberto Fujimori (pictured) dies at the age of 86. Flooding following a dam collapse in Borno State, Nigeria, leaves at least 30 people dead. Typhoon Yagi leaves more than 590 people dead across six Asian countries. Abdelmadjid Tebboune is declared the winner of the Algerian presidential election amid a dispute over the election's turnout. Ongoing: Israel–Hamas war timeline Russian invasion of Ukraine timeline Sudanese civil war timeline Recent deaths: Berit Ås Pravin Gordhan Sitaram Yechury Michaela DePrince Stephen Peat Didier Roustan view — page history — related changes — edit

Glossary Blurbs are one-sentence summaries of the news story. Altblurbs, labelled alt1, alt2, etc., are alternative suggestions to cover the same story. A target article, bolded in text, is the focus of the story. Each blurb must have at least one such article, but you may also link non-target articles. Articles in the Ongoing line describe events getting continuous coverage. The Recent deaths (RD) line includes any living thing whose death was recently announced. Consensus may decide to create a blurb for a recent death. All articles linked in the ITN template must pass our standards of review. They should be up-to-date, demonstrate relevance via good sourcing and have at least an acceptable quality. Nomination steps Make sure the item you want to nominate has an article that meets our minimum requirements and contains reliable coverage of a current event you want to create a blurb about. We will not post about events described in an article that fails our quality standards. Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated). Do not add sections for new dates manually – a bot does that for us each day at midnight (UTC). Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate. Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready! You may add {{ITN note}} to the target article's talk page to let editors know about your nomination. The better your article's quality, the better it covers the event and the wider its perceived significance (see WP:ITNSIGNIF for details), the better your chances of getting the blurb posted. Headers When the article is ready, updated and there is consensus to post, you can mark the item as (Ready). Remove that wording if you feel the article fails any of these necessary criteria. Admins should always separately verify whether these criteria are met before posting blurbs marked (Ready). For more guidance, check WP:ITN/A. If satisfied, change the header to (Posted). Where there is no consensus, or the article's quality remains poor, change the header to (Closed) or (Not posted). Sometimes, editors ask to retract an already-posted nomination because of a fundamental error or because consensus changed. If you feel the community supports this, remove the item and mark the item as (Pulled). Voicing an opinion on an item Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated. Please do... Pick an older item to review near the bottom of this page, before the eligibility runs out and the item scrolls off the page and gets abandoned in the archive, unused and forgotten. Review an item even if it has already been reviewed by another user. You may be the first to spot a problem, or the first to confirm that an identified problem was fixed. Piling on the list of "support!" votes will help administrators see what is ready to be posted on the Main Page. Tell about problems in articles if you see them. Be bold and fix them yourself if you know how, or tell others if it's not possible. Please do not... Add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are not helpful. A vote without reasoning means little for us, please elaborate yourself. Oppose an item just because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. We post a lot of such content, so these comments are generally unproductive. Accuse other editors of supporting, opposing or nominating due to a personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). We at ITN do not handle conflicts of interest. Comment on a story without first reading the relevant article(s). Oppose a recurring item here because you disagree with the recurring items criteria. Discuss them here. Use ITN as a forum for your own political or personal beliefs. Such comments are irrelevant to the outcome and are potentially disruptive. Suggesting updates There are two places where you can request corrections to posted items: Anything that does not change the intent of the blurb (spelling, grammar, markup issues, updating death tolls etc.) should be discussed at WP:Errors. Discuss major changes in the blurb's intent or very complex updates as part of the current ITNC nomination.

November 17

Portal:Current events/2021 November 17

November 17, 2021 (2021-11-17) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Aftermath of the October 2021 Sudanese coup d'état Soldiers open fire on civilians in Khartoum, Sudan, protesting against last month's coup d'état, killing 14 people and injuring dozens more. This brings the total death toll of civilians killed during the protests to 38. (Al Jazeera) Insurgency in the Maghreb The death toll from the attack at a military post in Inata, Soum Province, Burkina Faso, three days ago, increases to 53, including 49 gendarmes and four civilians. (Al Jazeera) 2021 Belarus–European Union border crisis; Estonia–Russia barrier Estonia summons 1,700 reservists for a snap drill, which will include installing a 40-kilometer-long razor wire barrier along the border with Russia as the migrant crisis with Belarus intensifies. (Reuters) Nagorno-Karabakh conflict Seven people are killed and 10 others are injured after clashes between Azerbaijan and Armenia. (AP) Disasters and accidents November 2021 Pacific Northwest floods The Canadian government sends the Air Force to the Pacific coast to assist with supplies after torrential rains affected regions of British Columbia near Vancouver, causing damage to highways. Minister of Emergency Preparedness Bill Blair says that landslides and floods have blocked the town of Agassiz and residents are now being assisted by the military. (Al Jazeera) A Royal Air Force F-35 Lightning II jet crashes into the Mediterranean Sea during a routine operation. The pilot successfully ejects from the aircraft and has been rescued. (The Guardian) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom COVID-19 pandemic in Northern Ireland The Northern Ireland Executive votes to introduce a COVID-19 vaccine passport beginning next month, which will contain a person's vaccination status or negative COVID-19 test result, and will be used to enter bars, restaurants and pubs. (BBC News) COVID-19 pandemic in Austria Austria reports a record 14,416 new COVID-19 cases in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 996,320. (ORF) COVID-19 pandemic in Germany Germany reports a record 52,826 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours. (ABC News) COVID-19 pandemic in Russia Russia reports a record 1,247 deaths from COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide death toll to 259,084. (Anadolu Agency) COVID-19 pandemic in Spain, COVID-19 vaccination in Spain Spain’s panel of vaccine experts approves the extension of the COVID-19 vaccine booster dose to people between the ages of 60 and 69 and healthcare workers. (The Washington Post) COVID-19 pandemic in Argentina COVID-19 vaccination in Argentina Argentina receives a shipment of 800,000 doses of the Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine. (Ámbito) COVID-19 pandemic in the Philippines The Food and Drug Administration of the Philippines authorises emergency use of the Novavax COVID-19 vaccine, which will be included in the national vaccination program. (Philippine Daily Inquirer) COVID-19 pandemic in the United States COVID-19 vaccination in the United States White House COVID-19 Response Coordinator Jeff Zients announces that 80% of people aged 12 and older have received their first doses of the COVID-19 vaccine. (USA Today) (WNCN-TV) Law and crime American rapper Young Dolph is shot and killed at a bakery in Memphis, Tennessee, by an unidentified gunman. (The Guardian) Politics and elections Former President of Georgia Mikheil Saakashvili, who has been on a hunger strike for 48 days, is in critical condition. Yesterday, Justice Minister Rati Bregadze denied Saakashvili transfer to a civilian clinic, from a prison hospital where he is being treated. (France 24)

---

November 16

Portal:Current events/2021 November 16

November 16, 2021 (2021-11-16) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Insurgency in the Maghreb 2021 Niger attacks Gunmen raid the camp of a self-defence militia in the village of Bakorat, Niger, killing 25 people. (Reuters) 2021 Uganda bombings Three suicide bombers blow themselves up near a police station and the entrance of the Parliament in Kampala, killing three people and injuring 33 others. The Islamic State claims responsibility for the attacks. (Reuters) 2021 Armenia–Azerbaijan border crisis Fifteen Armenian soldiers are killed and twelve more are captured by the Azerbaijani Armed Forces during border clashes, amid mutual recriminations before a Russian-brokered ceasefire is agreed at 19:00 local time. (JAMnews) Business and economy Gas prices for the United Kingdom and the European Union increase by 17% after the German energy regulator suspends the approval of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline from Russia to Germany. The regulator says that the pipeline needs to comply with German law before they can certify the €10 billion project. (BBC News) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in the Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte orders the lifting of the mandate to use face shields in areas under Alert 3 and lower levels, which includes the National Capital Region. However, face shields will continue to be used in areas under Alert level 5 and areas under granular lockdown. (Philippine Daily Inquirer) COVID-19 pandemic in South Korea South Korea reports a new single-day record of 495 critical cases of COVID-19. (Yonhap News Agency) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Russia, COVID-19 drug development Russia authorizes Pfizer to conduct clinical trials for its experimental COVID-19 drug named Paxlovid, which will continue until March 2023. (The Hill) COVID-19 pandemic in Ukraine Ukraine reports a record 838 deaths from COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide death toll to 77,895. (Anadolu Agency) COVID-19 pandemic in New Zealand New Zealand reports a record 222 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours. (New Zealand Herald) Deployment of COVID-19 vaccines The number of Oxford–AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine doses supplied worldwide surpasses two billion. (Medical Xpress) COVID-19 drug development Pfizer and the Medicines Patent Pool sign a global licensing agreement that will allow Pfizer's experimental COVID-19 oral drug Paxlovid to be manufactured under a royalty-free license in 95 low and middle-income countries. (The Wall Street Journal) 2020–21 H5N8 outbreak Japan reports an outbreak of the H5N8 bird flu strain at a farm with about 11,000 egg-laying chickens in Izumi, Kagoshima Prefecture. (Reuters) A peer-reviewed study published in the Annals of Internal Medicine announces that an Argentinian woman has allegedly been "functionally cured" of HIV by her own immune system. If confirmed, the woman would be only the second individual in history whose own immune system successfully destroyed the disease without any form of stem-cell transplantation. (USA Today) Maryland reports their first case of monkeypox in a resident who traveled from Nigeria. (WJZ-TV) International relations 2021 Belarus–European Union border crisis Migrants at a temporarily closed checkpoint in Kuźnica, Poland, throw stones at Polish border guards, while attempting to destroy the border fence in order to break through the Belarus–Poland border. The guards respond with water cannons and tear gas in an attempt to disperse the mob. The Polish ministry accuses the Belarusian military of aiding the attacks along Poland's borders. (BBC News) Russo-Ukrainian War British Prime Minister Boris Johnson states that the west will have to choose between reliance on Russian gas and supporting Ukraine amid reported buildups of the Russian military near the border with Ukraine. (The Guardian) Belarus–European Union relations Researchers at the American cybersecurity firm Mandiant report that the Belarusian government has ties to the hacker group Ghostwriter, which was accused of targeting various German politicians and ministries in September and has since been accused of launching misinformation campaigns against Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, and Ukraine. (RFE/RL) Law and crime The Mexican Secretariat of National Defense announces that Rosalinda González Valencia, the wife of Jalisco New Generation Cartel leader Nemesio Oseguera "El Mencho" Cervantes, is re-arrested. González was previously detained in 2018 for allegedly running the finances of the cartel, but was released on bail. (BBC News) According to the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, nearly 1,000 hate crimes against Europe’s Christians were recorded in 2020. The organization documented 980 incidents against Christians, including arson attacks on Catholic churches, desecration and robbery of Eucharistic hosts, assaults on priests, and anti-Catholic graffiti on Church property by abortion activists. (Catholic News Agency) Politics and elections Politics of Monaco Princess Charlene of Monaco cancels all upcoming activities, including those of Monaco's national celebrations, due to ill health, according to a statement from the royal palace. The Princess is said to be suffering from "deep fatigue". (Reuters) Pandora Papers The impeachment against Chilean President Sebastián Piñera is defeated in the Senate, after the motion fails to meet the minimum two-thirds threshold in a vote. (Bloomberg) Science and technology Moons of Saturn A new moon of Saturn, S/2019 S 1, is announced, bringing the total number of known moons to 83. (Minor Planet Center)

---

(Ready) Kosmos 1408

Articles: Anti-satellite weapon (talk · history · tag) and Kosmos 1408 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Russia shoots down Kosmos 1408 with an anti-satellite weapon creating dangerous space debris. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Russia shoots down Kosmos 1408 with an anti-satellite weapon, creating a field of space debris.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Kosmos 1408 is destroyed by a Russian anti-satellite weapon and turned into a stream of space debris.
News source(s): BBC, AP, Reuters, Guardian, Bloomberg
Credits:

• Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
• Created by Mike Peel (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Smeagol 17 (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: We have some real news about the ISS now as the crew have to take shelter from a shower of debris created by a Russian missile test. And the Kessler syndrome advances another notch. What we're mainly missing is a good picture but we might use something generic like this. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:56, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support in principle, as this is a significant event for the space industry (more so than Crew-3 that we already have on the template). However the article is pretty lightweight and could use some expansion. It also needs a source for the claim that Russia was responsible for the test - we can't claim something in the blurb that isn't cited in the article. I would also remove 'dangerous' from the blurb as that's quite a strong accusation. Modest Genius ^talk 13:05, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

  Article seems fine now, though as I was one of the users updating it an independent assessment would be welcome. Modest Genius ^talk 18:16, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support on the merits; the use of an anti-satellite weapon(even as a test) is rare and few countries possess such technology. Russia isn't denying it. 331dot (talk) 13:10, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

@331dot: Yes, the use is rare and few countries possess such technology. Yet, I remember a similar test from India a couple of years ago was rejected as the technology "has been around for a while." If I recall correctly, there had been significant debate about debris back then too. 2405:201:4013:8087:A828:E291:B9B5:4B09 (talk) 18:31, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

I can only comment on the nomination in front of me; I can't speak to past ones at this time. 331dot (talk) 19:15, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support in principle though article needs to include that Russia shot it down (right now, the article just says it broke up). And other cn tags in article would need fixing. Though I agree, this is way more important/notable/covered in news sources than Crew-3. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:12, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment I started putting this through DYK earlier today, see Template:Did you know nominations/Kosmos 1408, since I haven't enjoyed participating in previous ITN discussions. But if you want this here, then the DYK can be withdrawn. I've updated the template above, since I started the article yesterday. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 13:14, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• One option would be to merge this into the existing Crew-3 ISS mission blurb. If Kosmos 1408 is not bolded then it can still be a DYK too. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:22, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

I oppose merging those blurbs - these are separate events. Modest Genius ^talk 14:07, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

I also oppose merging- they're separate events, and this one is more important, so shouldn't be stuck on the end of some less important and newswirthy article that's only on the front page because it was alledgedly ITNR (even though that ITNR criteria was demonstrated to be unfit for purpose). And if this does reach front page, then DYK would no longer be eligible, but until that point, don't see a need to withdraw the DYK nom. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:30, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

We could remove the Crew-3 blurb and replace it with this one when this is ready to go (assuming Crew-3 is still on ITN). Yeah, it doesn't get its "full time" there, but I agree that it doesn't make sense to merge, but having two ISS-related things could be seen as overwhelming the box. --Masem (t) 14:35, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment – Fairly widely covered, but broader significance of a "threat" to the ISS isn't so apparent. – Sca (talk) 13:38, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support in principle. This is very significant news and an interesting story of high encyclopedic value.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 13:41, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support in principle per above, just needs better fleshing out of the article. --Masem (t) 13:53, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment – Upon reflection, it seems to be a serious threat all right, but ... can we post something that hasn't had a tangible effect ... yet? – Sca (talk) 14:11, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

PS: My question is, did Putin authorize this stupid 'test' – or was it just an act of heedless military apparatchiks down in the bureaucracy? (Russia is an oligarchy that has a country – a country that has an enormous military.) – Sca (talk) 14:19, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• • The way I'm reading it, the story is more that Russia has appeared to have violated a treaty related to space-bound weapons, in addition to this being a story of interest to space exploration (the potential of damage to the ISS that forced the crew to shelter for at least two orbits as it passed through the debris field). --Masem (t) 14:17, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

  Reasonable enough. However, the threat to human lives (including two Russians!) seems more compelling in terms of reader interest. – Sca (talk) 14:22, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

From our article on the Outer Space Treaty: "Although it forbids establishing military bases, testing weapons and conducting military maneuvers on celestial bodies, the treaty does not expressly ban all military activities in space, nor the establishment of military space forces or the placement of conventional weapons in space". Testing an anti-satellite weapon on your own target is not against any treaty, just regarded as irresponsible. Note that the US, China and India have all conducted similar tests with no legal repercussions or UN censure. Modest Genius ^talk 15:09, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose no longer fresh, not really in the news, rolled off a while ago and probably better suited for DYK. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:11, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

  What's your time frame for "no longer fresh"? The BBC article is only 12 hours old and the event itself occurred yesterday. It's certainly a newer event than anything currently in the ITN box... --Jayron32 16:16, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

  (edit conflict) The BBC published two more articles about this story in just the last hour [1] [2]. That seems pretty fresh. Modest Genius ^talk 16:19, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

  It happened yesterday, and is very much still in the news. Much more so than the posted blurbs, such as the NYC Marathon on 7 November for example. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:20, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

  OH sure, you can dig into websites and find more analysis, but it's not headline news and hasn't been for most of the day now. Even the article makes it clear that the "main event" has passed. Biggest headlines in the UK are now that Johnson is proposing to prevent MPs from getting paid consultancy jobs. This story is no longer even on the BBC News homepage. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:24, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support Article is short, but sufficient; it seems to have developed some since the earlier notes. Topic is being covered by reliable news sources. --Jayron32 16:17, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose ... for now. Article text comprises 340 words, of which 115 are background, leaving a mere 230 words about the current threat. IMO, too thin for MP promotion. Second, we shouldn't blurb something that hasn't had an impact (yet). – Sca (talk) 17:03, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

  PS: Given that the current situation could continue for quite some time, perhaps after a bit we should consider posting this directly to Ongoing. – Sca (talk) 17:10, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

  Whatever political fallout there has been is pretty much so far just a short but important burst (for blurb posting), but there's no sign this is going to escalate into something further, in comparison to the nuclear submarine sale a few months back. --Masem (t) 19:50, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Wait is there a real danger debris hits other satellites soon, or is this just "an abundance of caution"? Will there be significant geo-political ramifications from the test? Until one of those is "yes", I think we should wait. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 19:52, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Everywhere is at risk for disaster, but this info is nothing like disaster actually happening. Political story, and involving two countries who always bicker. Could change if the ISS is destroyed or something stronger than words breaks out. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:46, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Is this an RD nom for the destruction of Kosmos 1408? If so, its "career section" needs an expansion to describe how it was used while still in orbit and operational.--PFHLai (talk) 23:08, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Questionable significance as far as potential impacts, especially given at the moment it is just predictive. I would assume that the test itself is not sufficient for ITN, so I'm on the "Oppose" side here. DarkSide830 (talk) 00:01, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support even if nothing happens to the ISS, ASAT weapon tests don't happen every day, or even every year. Banedon (talk) 03:44, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support Certainly magnitudes more important than the multitude of launches posted every now and then on ITN. Gotitbro (talk) 07:09, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support significant, made the news and the article Kosmos 1408 is short but adequate. Given the military nature of this satellite and its destruction, we can't expect to know that many details. Of the proposed blurbs, only alt 1 is good. --LukeSurl ^t c 10:02, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support in principle this is a significant story BUT it simply cannot be posted with a blurb of this quality. Its language is misleading and makes it sound as if a functional satellite was attacked, but rather a defunct satellite was destroyed as part of a weapons test... slightly different. Possibly also include the name of the missile system, if known, and replace "Russia" with the actual agency overseeing the test. JMonkey2006 (talk) 11:10, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

November 15

Portal:Current events/2021 November 15

November 15, 2021 (2021-11-15) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Insurgency in the Maghreb The death toll from yesterday's mass shooting at a military post near a gold mine in Inata, Soum Province, Burkina Faso, increases to 32, including 28 gendarmes and four civilians, making the attack the deadliest against security forces in the country. (Reuters) Liverpool Women's Hospital bombing Yesterday's taxi explosion in Liverpool, England, that killed the bomber and injured the driver outside the Liverpool Women's Hospital, is declared a terrorist incident by police. Mayor Joanne Anderson says that the driver locked the bomber inside the vehicle after noticing that the bomber was wearing an explosive device. (BBC News) (WalesOnline) Three al-Shabaab members escape from a maximum security prison in Kenya, including one of the perpetrators of the 2015 Garissa attack, in which 148 people were killed. (Reuters) Business and economy Infrastructure policy of the Joe Biden administration U.S. President Joe Biden signs the $1.2 trillion Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act into law. (The Washington Post) Disasters and accidents November 2021 Pacific Northwest floods Merritt, British Columbia, Canada is evacuated after severe flooding inundated the city of about 7,000. Several highways throughout southern British Columbia were also washed out by heavy rain, leaving at least 10 people stranded. (CBC) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Cambodia, Travel restrictions related to the COVID-19 pandemic Cambodia begins to allow fully vaccinated foreign travellers to visit the country without a quarantine if they show a negative test result from the previous 72 hours and test negative again upon arrival, as the country currently has the one of world's highest COVID-19 vaccination rates. (AFP via Barron's) COVID-19 pandemic in India, Travel restrictions related to the COVID-19 pandemic India reopens its border to fully vaccinated foreign travellers on regular commercial flights after being closed for 18 months since March 2020 due to a decrease in the number of new COVID-19 cases. All travellers must follow COVID-19 protocols and show a negative test result from the previous 72 hours, except those from countries with mutual vaccine recognition. (AP) COVID-19 pandemic in Sri Lanka, COVID-19 drug development Sri Lanka approves the use of the COVID-19 oral drug molnupiravir in the country. (Adaderana) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Germany Berlin begins to implement "2G" rule that limiting access to restaurants, cinemas, bars, and cultural and entertainment venues to those who are vaccinated or have recovered from COVID-19 amid a rising number of COVID-19 cases across Germany. (VOA) COVID-19 pandemic in Latvia Latvia ends its 8 p.m. to 6 a.m. curfew and allows companies to fire employees who are unvaccinated against COVID-19. Unvaccinated people are also banned from taking their duties for parliament and entering shopping malls with a size greater than 1,500 square metres (16,000 sq ft). (Medical Xpress) COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom, COVID-19 vaccination in the United Kingdom The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation approves the extension of age eligibility of COVID-19 vaccine booster doses in the United Kingdom to people between 40 and 49 years old and the second dose for teenagers between the ages of 16 and 17 years. (The Guardian) COVID-19 pandemic in Australia COVID-19 pandemic in Queensland Queensland reopens its state border to fully vaccinated Australians travelling by plane, as 70% of the state's adult population are now fully vaccinated. (ABC News Australia) COVID-19 pandemic in Egypt Egypt begins to ban unvaccinated public sector employees and university students from entering workplaces and universities unless they show a negative PCR test from the previous 72 hours. (Arab News) International relations China–United States relations US President Joe Biden holds a virtual bilateral meeting with China's leader Xi Jinping. (AP News) Foreign relations of Kiribati The government of New Zealand vows to help islanders in Banaba, Kiribati, to access fresh water, as the island suffers from frequent droughts and is dependent on rainfall. (RNZ) 2021 Belarus–European Union border crisis The European Union says it will impose new sanctions on Belarus in response to the migrant crisis on the Belarus–Poland border. (CNN) Politics and elections 2021 Argentine legislative election With nearly all votes counted, the ruling Peronist government loses control of both the Chamber of Deputies and the Senate. This is the first time since the return to democracy in 1983 that Peronists do not have a majority in either house. (El Mostrador Chile) Science and technology Russia carries out a direct-ascent anti-satellite weapon test on the defunct Soviet spacecraft Kosmos 1408, creating a cloud of debris that threatens the International Space Station. (SpaceNews)

---

RD: Katarina Blagojević

Article: Katarina Blagojević (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Telegraf
Credits:

• Nominated by TJMSmith (talk · give credit)
• Created by Uldis s (talk · give credit)
• Updated by 93.86.229.111 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Serbian chess player. TJMSmith (talk) 00:06, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

RD: Dzifa Attivor

Article: Dzifa Attivor (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Ghanaweb
Credits:

• Nominated by TJMSmith (talk · give credit)
• Created by Natsubee (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Ampimd (talk · give credit) and Mrkokgh (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Ghanaian politician and businesswoman. TJMSmith (talk) 00:00, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

RD: Julio Lugo

Article: Julio Lugo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Boston Globe MLB.com ESPN.com
Credits:

• Nominated by ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk · give credit)
• Created by 68.227.39.47 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Ackru (talk · give credit), Nohomersryan (talk · give credit), Dmoore5556 (talk · give credit) and Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Major League Baseball player. Article could be slightly improved. ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 15:00, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment lots of cn tags at the moment, which would need to be resolved. Also, a lot of headings, seems way too many to me (as lots of sections are 1-2 sentences saying he signed for someone and then played a few or no games, then left). Joseph2302 (talk) 15:52, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment I can try to address the noted items tonight (US eastern timezone) and will leave a note here once updated. Dmoore5556 (talk) 22:46, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment I finished sourcing the article. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:18, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment Along with sourcing added by Muboshgu (thank you) I've added relevant details about Lugo's baseball career; the article looks to be in good shape now. Dmoore5556 (talk) 05:54, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

RD: Clarissa Eden

Article: Clarissa Eden (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Telegraph
Credits:

• Nominated by TJMSmith (talk · give credit)
• Created by MartinCollin (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Neveselbert (talk · give credit), RedRumRomanus (talk · give credit) and IXIA (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: British countess, memoirist, and centenarian. Still needs some citations. TJMSmith (talk) 01:29, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

2021 Bulgarian general election

Proposed image

Kiril Petkov, Chairman of We Continue the Change

Article: 2021 Bulgarian general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the Bulgarian general election, We Continue the Change (co-leader Kiril Petkov pictured) wins the most seats. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ We Continue the Change wins the most seats in the Bulgarian general election.
News source(s): FT Euronews, Balkan Insight, Sofia Globe, Reuters, DW, Spiegel (In German)
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by BastianMAT (talk · give credit)
• Updated by FellowMellow (talk · give credit), PLATEL (talk · give credit), Aréat (talk · give credit) and Braganza (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Second election held yesterday, ITNR, being a general election. The election comission has announced that We Continue the Change has won most seats, so therefore such a nomination can now be made. As we have posted the winner in the previous elections, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates/July_2021#(Posted)_Bulgarian_parliamentary_election. They are a new party too, so surprising. I have added a result synopsis and started the aftermath. Good article, have spent a lot of time on it myself with a few others. BastianMAT (talk) 14:45, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support Article has minimum of prose describing the leadup, results, and aftermath. More writing would be nice, but it's passable for the main page. Everything is referenced and it has prose, which is more than can be said for many of the nominations of this type. --Jayron32 12:01, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment: Is it time to start the English wikibio for the other co-leader of We Continue the Change, Asen Vasilev? The coalition has two leaders, not just Petkov. Do we want to wait till a government is formed? --PFHLai (talk) 12:01, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
  • I guess yeah, he deserves one too, but Petkov is the primary focus here as he is the one seeking to become prime minister (per https://www.euronews.com/2021/11/14/bulgarian-elections-newly-formed-pp-party-neck-and-neck-with-right-wing-gerb-party). The truth is we don't even know yet if they will be successful forming a goverment, but we posted both the Czech party SPOLU and the last Bulgarian election when ITN won the most seats as the election itself is ITNR, so going by that this nomination/blurb should be suitable to make it out to the front page.BastianMAT (talk) 12:17, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support Article is in great shape. I think the easiest way to solve what PFHLai exposes is to put in the blurb that Petkov is the "co-leader", thus making it understood that he is not the only one leading the coalition. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 12:42, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
  • How about not mentioning either co-leaders in the blurb? (See alt1) I'm not sure about using the proposed photo of Petkov on MainPage, anyway. --PFHLai (talk) 22:40, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support altblurb1 Just updated the numbers of the results, the article is well-written --Vacant0 (talk) 22:56, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

2021 Argentinian Midterm Election

Article: 2021 Argentine legislative election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the Argentine legislative election, Juntos por el Cambio wins the most seats as Frente de Todos lose their majority in the Chamber of Deputies and Senate. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In the Argentine legislative election, Juntos por el Cambio wins the most seats as Frente de Todos lose their majority in the Chamber of Deputies and Senate for the first time since 1983.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In the Argentine legislative election, Juntos por el Cambio wins the most seats.
Alternative blurb III: ​ In the Argentine legislative election, Frente de Todos loses its majority in both chambers for the first time since 1983.
News source(s): Reuters AP News Express News Aljazzera Dw News BBC Yahoo
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by BastianMAT (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Dainshku (talk · give credit), PLATEL (talk · give credit) and Aréat (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: It is ITNR, big news as the opposition won the legislative elections/midterm elections and the ruling party have lost both majorities in the chamber of deputies and the senate for the first time since 1983. BastianMAT (talk) 14:45, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose As of now, there is no prose synopsis of the results of the main election. There is only a prose synopsis of the primaries. If that is fixed, this can be posted. --Jayron32 14:49, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• Have added an synopsis now. BastianMAT (talk) 15:12, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• Senate section? --Jayron32 17:18, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support as and when the article gets cleaned up a bit This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 15:09, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support when the article is cleaned up a bit. Remember, go for it!. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 15:19, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment I wanted to nominate this but hasitated. Are these midterms considered general elections? Half of the seats in the lower chamber and 1/3 of the upper chamber are up for election and our article defines general elections as "elections in which all or most members of a political body are chosen." Scaramouche33 (talk) 16:16, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

  I half-wondered if such "mid-term" elections were covered by ITNR. If they are, perhaps that should also be explicitly noted at ITNR. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:19, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

  • Yeah, mid terms elections are part of it, it is notable too as the ruling party have lost their majority. Here is the US one that was also posted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates/November_2018#(Posted)_2018_US_Midterm_Elections.BastianMAT (talk) 16:28, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

    • But that was mainly because it involved "all or most members of a political body are chosen". This doesn't appear to be the case here. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:44, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

      • It depends on how you see on it. The mid term senate elections in US only feature 34 members up running for election. In Argentina it was half of the congress and enough for an significant change in both political bodies (ruling party losing control of both the house and the senate).BastianMAT (talk) 16:53, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
        • Well it doesn't matter what happened in the US, how does this meet the requirements at ITNR? The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:59, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

From what I understand, in the US midterms all House seats+1/3 of Senate seats were up for election so that would be considered as "most members of an electoral body" but here it's only half. Does that still count as general elections? If so it's ITN/R, if not who knows. Scaramouche33 (talk) 17:14, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Yeah I agree, it is arguable for both sides. At least based on this, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midterm_election, Argentina[1] (legislative and local election) falls under the heading General elections (which makes it ITNR) alongside the United States (legislative and local election) which was posted.BastianMAT (talk) 17:17, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure it is arguable here, it doesn't meet the definition in ITNR and it's a mid-term, not a general election by any normal definition (despite what "Wikipedia" might say). The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 17:30, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment – First four grafs back into the results and seem needlessly complex. – Sca (talk) 17:19, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment the table in the infobox violates MOS:COLHEAD by having column headers in the middle of the table. And we shouldn't consider putting this on front page until the results are complete, as a minimum. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:22, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment Blurbs are needlessly complex. Would support if blurb was simpler. Pyramids09 (talk) 18:31, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Added AltBlurb 3 as a simplified version of AltBlurb 1, which was the better of the prior three for highlighting the historical significance of the results. Let me know what you think. Mount Patagonia (talk) 00:32, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

November 14

Portal:Current events/2021 November 14

November 14, 2021 (2021-11-14) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Insurgency in the Maghreb Gunmen open fire at a military post near a gold mine in Inata, Soum Province, Burkina Faso, killing 19 gendarmes and a civilian. (Al Jazeera) Liverpool Women's Hospital bombing A passenger is killed and his driver injured when a taxi explodes in front of the Liverpool Women's Hospital in Liverpool, England. Three men are subsequently arrested under the Terrorism Act. (BBC News) Syrian civil war A bomb explodes near a vehicle carrying troops in Deir ez-Zor, Syria, killing four soldiers and a general. (The New Arab) Somali Civil War; Capital punishment in Somalia Two Ugandan soldiers are sentenced to death and three more receive 39-year prison sentences in Somalia for killing seven civilians during a gun battle in Golweyn, Lower Shabelle, three months ago. (BBC News) Disasters and accidents Astroworld Festival crowd crush A 9-year-old boy, injured during a crowd crush at the Astroworld Music Festival, who had been in a medically-induced coma, dies, bringing the death toll to 10. (CNN) European migrant crisis Eight sub-Saharan African migrants are found dead on a boat adrift off the southern coast of the Canary Islands, with 54 other men being rescued from the boat. (El País) A fire at a COVID-19 ward in Sliven, Bulgaria, kills three patients. (ABC News) A magnitude 6.5 earthquake strikes Hormozgan Province, Iran, at a depth of 10 kilometres (6.2 mi) and is felt in many southern Iranian cities. A man killed by a falling pole is the sole death reported. (Reuters) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Austria Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg announces a nationwide lockdown for those over the age of 12 years who are unvaccinated against COVID-19, which prohibits them from leaving their homes except for essential reasons beginning at midnight, amid a record increase in new COVID-19 cases. (AP) COVID-19 pandemic in Egypt, COVID-19 vaccination in Egypt The Egyptian government announces the start of clinical trials for COVI-VAX, which is the country’s first domestically-made COVID-19 vaccine. (Ahram Online) COVID-19 pandemic in Israel, COVID-19 vaccination in Israel The Israeli Health ministry approves the usage of the Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine for children aged 5 to 11, two weeks after the U.S. FDA grants its own approval, with vaccination expected to begin next week. (Haaretz) COVID-19 pandemic in Peru Peru announces that people over the age of 18 years who want to enter indoor spaces must show a proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 beginning in December, either physical or virtual vaccination cards. (AFP via Barron's) Politics and elections 2021 Bulgarian general election Bulgarians go to the polls to elect the President and the National Assembly. (MSN) 2021 Argentine legislative election Argentines go to the polls to elect members of the Chamber of Deputies and the Senate. (24/7 News Agency)

---

Liverpool Women's Hospital bombing

Article: Liverpool Women's Hospital bombing (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A taxi carrying bomber Emad Al-Swealmeen arrived at Liverpool Women's Hospital in Liverpool, England. Al-Swealmeen killed himself and injured the driver. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ An attempted terrorist bombing by Emad Al-Swealmeen at Liverpool Women's Hospital in Liverpool, England, kills him and injures another man.
Alternative blurb II: ​ An explosion, which killed the alleged bomber and injured another man at Liverpool Women's Hospital in Liverpool, England, is declared a terror incident.
News source(s): "Liverpool hospital taxi explosion: what we know so far". The Guardian. 15 November 2021. Retrieved 15 November 2021.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
"Liverpool Women's Hospital explosion declared a terror incident". BBC News. 15 November 2021. Retrieved 15 November 2021.
Credits:

• Nominated by AFreshStart (talk · give credit)
• Created by Serial Number 54129 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: This is a current event and newsworthy. —AFreshStart (talk) 16:33, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support this has been declared a terrorist incident, and is generating lots of news (it's prominent on the BBC News site still). I believe it's the first bombing in England since 2017 Manchester Arena one, and caused the UK terror threat level to be increased. Article itself is good enough quality. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:23, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support given that they have assigned terrorist motives to this now. My attempt at a more concise/ITN-style altblurb given, please edit as needed. --Masem (t) 17:34, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

  "Police said the motivation for the attack was unclear but it had been declared as a terrorist incident." InedibleHulk (talk) 21:48, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support Article is of sufficient length and quality, properly referenced, and item is in the news currently. No objections here. --Jayron32 17:35, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment Has also been nominated at DYK.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 18:00, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support alt still in the news. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 18:04, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose This was a minor terrorist attack that caused only one casualty. Now we are not concerned about the number of victims? Certainly "is in the news", but I don't think it has the same relevance as other terrorist incidents that have occurred that have not been approved to be on Main Page. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 18:33, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• The perpetrator was killed and the taxi driver was hospitalised. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:40, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose. Failed attack which caused one injury and killed the attacker. It's not clear what the target was or who it was supposed to terrorise. If this hadn't been declared a terrorist incident it would be minor local news. I encourage the existing DYK nom instead. Modest Genius ^talk 19:02, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Regardless of terrorism tag, I suspect this would have been national news. But of course, we will never know. The fact is it is big national news. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:07, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• But it was declared a terrorist attack, which adds notability to the incident. Jbvann05 20:32, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support alt Notable, now declared a terrorist incident, article in decent shape.  Spy-cicle💥  ^Talk? 19:15, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support - Terrorism need not have a high death count in order to be notable and newsworthy; we have posted terrorist incidents on ITN that have had a death toll of zero.--WaltCip-(talk) 20:04, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment I find it very interesting how many of those who support this nomination refused to publish the terrorist attack in Auckland in September, whose consequences were almost the same as in this case. Any clarification? _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 20:58, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• What do you mean "refused to publish"? They didn't !vote there. Apart from Modest Genius, who is opposed here also? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:05, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Thank you for your answer because clearly I've realized that I have not expressed myself well. I mean that at the time, the reason why I've opposed was the same used by other users (who have not participated in this debate, except Modest Genius) to not support the cited nomination in September. That is why I am frankly surprised. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 21:29, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• BLP Caution One suspect is dead, but four others are arrested in connection; might want to attribute this "attempted terrorist bombing" instead of stating it as a fact Wikipedia knows (a "declaration" from police is still an allegation). InedibleHulk (talk) 21:37, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Counter Terrorism Police Caution: all four have been released: [3]. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:50, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• OK, nevermind then. Can't go wrong speaking ill of the dead. At least by Wikipedian norms. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:10, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• No need to get personal, if you don't mind. Norman Butkiss 123 (talk) 22:47, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose. I will admit to perhaps being more jaded to bomb stories than some other nationalities may be, but even with that notwithstanding, I don't believe we'd be considering an attack which killed no victims and injured one if it took place elsewhere (we recently didn't post, for example, an attack that targeted but didn't kill a head of state). That isn't necessarily to say there's any deliberate bias here but it's important to remember that England has a well-developed media sphere and any regional story will have a lot of domestic coverage, but we are not necessarily beholden to repeat their biases. For reference, even the BBC have displaced this story in favour of the latest update in a racism dispute in county cricket. ᵹʀᴀᴘᴘʟᴇ ꭗ 21:46, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support major incident, leading news story, article decent. Polyamorph (talk) 21:48, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support (Alt 2). UK terror threat level raised from substantial to severe pushes it over the edge. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:15, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose As suicide in Britain goes, it was unusually public and explosive, but lacks too much death and destruction next to the general public suicide bombings (a similar story from Strathroy-Caradoc#History isn't even an article, for context). InedibleHulk (talk) 23:19, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose -- it's already stopped being news, it seems. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 02:50, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Questionable significance since nothing major [fortunately] did not take place. Gotitbro (talk) 07:12, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose as the investigation has not been completed and it has not been confirmed yet whether it was terrorism, whether the detonation was intentional or accidental, or who the intended victim or victims might to have been. The current article contains too much opinion, innuendo, and speculation portrayed as fact. -- DeFacto (talk). 07:38, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

T20 World Cup

Article: 2021 ICC Men's T20 World Cup Final (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In cricket, the T20 World Cup concludes with Australia defeating New Zealand in the final (Post)
News source(s): BBC Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Modest Genius (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Chandraach (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: I'm not keen on T20, but this is ITNR. Prose summaries of both innings are present though are currently unreferenced. It doesn't seem at all controversial though, so should be easy to source from a few match reports (such as those linked above). Modest Genius ^talk 12:33, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment the table in "Road to the final" section is ugly- couldn't this just be done in a paragraph of text, as in 2016 article? Joseph2302 (talk) 14:36, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

  Agree. It's also not compliant with MOS:ACCESS since it contains nested tables. This should be fixed before it's posted on the main page.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:17, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

RD: Etel Adnan

Article: Etel Adnan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by TJMSmith (talk · give credit)
• Created by Distingué Traces (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Tuckerlieberman (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Lebanese-American poet, essayist, and visual artist TJMSmith (talk) 01:17, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose A number of cite tags need to be fixed.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 18:24, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bertie Auld

Article: Bertie Auld (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Sport
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Joseywales1961 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Celtic, Birmingham and Scotland player and European Cup winner in 1967 with Celtic. Needs some citations which I’ll try and sort in the morning (if someone wants to fix in the meantime please do) JW 1961 ^Talk 20:21, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment Missing citations added now, should be ok JW 1961 ^Talk 08:59, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment – correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think ref 10 (FitbaStats) is a reliable source. —Bloom6132 (talk) 13:34, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• Hi Bloom6132, it's not listed at Deprecated Sources or Perennial Sources, neither does Cite Highlighter mark it red and so I would assume it's ok (I'm of course open to correction) JW 1961 ^Talk 14:10, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
• Update Reference the fitbastats ref (as of now number 16) and which references his overall Celtic honours - I have supplemented this with individual cites for the trophies/competitions so it is now really redundant JW 1961 ^Talk 23:06, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support – article is well-referenced and meets minimum depth of coverage for ITN. —Bloom6132 (talk) 01:13, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 03:46, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Indigo Partners orders 255 Airbus A321 jets

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

---

Article: Indigo Partners (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Indigo Partners orders 255 Airbus A321 jets. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by Count Iblis (talk · give credit)

Article updated

 Count Iblis (talk) 17:24, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment Good for Airbus, but what makes this an ITN story? --Tone 17:29, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
• Suggest snow close. This is barely even 'news' 2405:201:4013:815B:A828:E291:B9B5:4B09 (talk) 17:42, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose one of the less ITN-worthy nominations of this nominator. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 17:43, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose – Below the radar. – Sca (talk) 17:47, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose – Newsworthiness aside, a single-sentence update to a stub won't be enough for ITN. --PFHLai (talk) 18:17, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

November 13

Portal:Current events/2021 November 13

November 13, 2021 (2021-11-13) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Afghanistan conflict A magnetic bomb attached to a minivan explodes in Dasht-e-Barachi, a predominantly Hazara district of Kabul, killing six people and injuring seven others. (Reuters) Syrian civil war Islamic State gunmen ambush a group of soldiers in Masrib, Deir ez-Zor, Syria, killing 13 of them and wounding others. (The New Arab) Tigray War The Ethiopian Human Rights Commission publishes a report accusing the Tigray People's Liberation Front of killing more than 150 civilians in the Amhara Region between July and August. The report states that they were killed for either supporting the federal government or sheltering soldiers. (Al Jazeera) Gunmen ambush a convoy of paramilitary soldiers in Churachandpur, Manipur, India, killing five soldiers and two civilians. (Al Jazeera) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Austria Austria reports a record 13,152 new COVID-19 cases in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 948,100. (Kurier) COVID-19 pandemic in Germany Germany reintroduces free COVID-19 testing for all adults amid a record number of new cases. (The New York Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Greece Greece tightens its guidelines by requiring that no more than one person per nine square meters of floor space be allowed to enter into supermarkets. This new policy was implemented after a proposed policy that would require unvaccinated people to provide a mandatory rapid COVID-19 test in order to enter supermarkets was deemed too difficult to implement. (Ekathimerini) COVID-19 pandemic in Russia Russia reports a record 1,241 deaths from COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide death toll to 254,167. The country also surpasses nine million cases of COVID-19. (Azeri Press Agency) COVID-19 pandemic in Papua New Guinea New Zealand sends doctors to Papua New Guinea, after Papua New Guinea formally requested international help to combat the worsening COVID-19 situation in the country. (RNZ) COVID-19 pandemic in the United States The U.S. surpasses 47 million cases of COVID-19. (WFTV) 2021 United Nations Climate Change Conference At COP26, diplomats from countries around the world reach a major agreement aimed at intensifying global efforts to fight climate change by calling on governments to return next year with stronger plans to curb planet-warming emissions and urging wealthy nations to "at least double" their funding in order to protect poorer nations from the hazards of a warming planet. Some activists are critical of the agreement, as it leaves unresolved the question of how much and how quickly each nation should cut its carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions over the next decade, and it still leaves many developing countries short of the funds that they would need in order to cope with increasing weather disasters. However, the agreement makes reference to fossil fuels and their role in the climate crisis for the first time in the conference's history. (CNN) (The New York Times) International relations 2021 Belarus–European Union border crisis Russian President Vladimir Putin says that the threat made by Belarus to cut their gas supply to Europe would be a breach of the contract with Russia and that such a threat may have been made in a fit of temper by Belarus's president Alexander Lukashenko. (BBC News) Law and crime November 2021 Guayaquil prison riot Sixty-eight inmates are killed and 25 others injured in a prison riot in Guayaquil, Ecuador. (BBC News) Politics and elections Protests over responses to the COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 protests in Australia Thousands of protesters associated with the right-wing United Australia Party march in Melbourne in opposition to vaccine mandates and newly introduced laws in the Victoria State Government which would transfer many pandemic-specific powers from the Chief Health Officer to the Premier and Health Minister. (The Guardian)

---

RD: Ed Bullins

Article: Ed Bullins (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

• Nominated by AleatoryPonderings (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Needs more sourcing work which I may be able to get to in the next 24–36 hours. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 04:40, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

RD: Joanna Semel Rose

Article: Joanna Semel Rose (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Legacy
Credits:

• Nominated by TJMSmith (talk · give credit)
• Created by Yorker (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American art patron and collector, publisher, and philanthropist. TJMSmith (talk) 00:12, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

RD: Petra Mayer

Article: Petra Mayer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by TJMSmith (talk · give credit)
• Created by MoviesandTelevisionFan (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Isabelle Belato (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American book review editor and journalist. TJMSmith (talk) 20:53, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• This stubby wikibio is 1482 characters long. Any more to add? --PFHLai (talk) 22:31, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose 1491 characters is too short to be on the front page. Surely there's more that can be said about her? Joseph2302 (talk) 15:13, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Dubious This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 16:09, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

RD: Sam Huff

Article: Sam Huff (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/sam-huff-dead/2021/11/13/493c542c-2e8e-11e6-b5db-e9bc84a2c8e4_story.html
Credits:

• Updated by Dylan620 (talk · give credit) and Dissident93 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American football hall-of-famer. Could use more footnotes, but almost ready for RD. --PFHLai (talk) 18:34, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

RD: Wilbur Smith

Article: Wilbur Smith (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Stephen (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Stephen 03:07, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support – Very widely covered. Comprehensive article looks good. – Sca (talk) 13:37, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support Well-documented novelist. InedibleHulk (talk) 15:25, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment. I am concerned about the sourcing. Lots of references to "wilbursmithbooks.com", lots of references to his autobio On Leopard Rock without corresponding secondary sources, tons of references to other books he's written. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 15:35, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
  • I don't see as many cites to the website (now?) but I do agree that his writing career section is a bit too heavily reliant on his autobio. It is reasonable for a writer like Smith to use his autobio to fill in gaps from other reliable sourcing, but it shouldn't be as heavily used for the "First Novels" section, for example. --Masem (t) 22:17, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
• This wikibio has about 20 {cn} tags. Please add more refs. --PFHLai (talk) 02:28, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Glasgow Climate Pact

Article: Glasgow Climate Pact (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Governments agree to the Glasgow Climate Pact at COP26, which includes a "phase-down" of coal. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ 197 countries and territories agree to the Glasgow Climate Pact at COP26.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The Glasgow Climate Pact is agreed at COP26 to attempt to limit the rise in global temperatures by 1.5°C.
News source(s): BBC, NYT, ABC, AP, Guardian, Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by JMonkey2006 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: The Paris Agreement was posted after COP21 concluded. This agreement is the same, if not more important for global climate action. JMonkey2006 (talk) 01:45, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment Glasgow Climate Pact obviously isn't remotely close to being front-page quality, and 2021 United Nations Climate Change Conference doesn't say what happened either. Once this is updated, I will probably support on importance. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 02:52, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose there's at least enough article to vote. Article still has issues; the "Pledges" section is describing things agreed at the conference that don't appear to be specifically part of the "Glasgow Climate Pact", and the link to Wikisource isn't broken. As far as importance ... we posted the conference once, and the biggest news is that there are plans to decrease coal usage ... this isn't worth posting again. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 01:06, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support – in principle ... pending updating and succinct revision of 2021 climate conference article. It would be very odd not to blurb this universally covered confab, now over. – Sca (talk) 13:44, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment That we already posted the COP26 earlier, and that the general impression of the Glasgow Pact that I get from sources is that it is far less as a milestone compared to the Paris Agreements (since it basically affirms commitment to them) makes me wonder if this is really that significant to post a second time. --Masem (t) 14:23, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

  Au contraire. Despite disappointments, 'world leaders' said to "broadly welcome" the climate deal, which "for the first time targeted fossil fuels." At least they did something. Prominently covered by every major RS site. – Sca (talk) 15:28, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

  That sentence wasn't over. First time targeting fossil fuels "as the key driver of global warming". Whatever that means. InedibleHulk (talk) 16:29, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose Resistance is futile. "In asking nations to set tougher targets by next year for cutting climate-warming emissions, the agreement effectively acknowledged that commitments were still inadequate. National pledges currently have the world on track for about 2.4C of warming." The article quality outlook is also dire. InedibleHulk (talk) 16:38, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

  We're not here to judge the work of the conferees. We're here to take note a very heavily covered, extended international conference that was widely and prominently covered. Do I think the so-called climate pact will solve global warming? No (although it might be a move in the right direction). What you or I think of it doesn't matter. What matters is, it was/is very much in the news, and the topic is hugely significant. – Sca (talk) 17:32, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

  The work of the conferees is the topic. If the news reports the commitments made therein as inadequate, it's not hugely significant in the broader and more newsworthy topic area of global warming prevention. This running conference is just in the news because it was long expected to end today somehow. InedibleHulk (talk) 17:45, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

  Nope. Even if they had done nothing it would be significant for reasons outlined above. – Sca (talk) 17:49, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

  I respectfully disagree. InedibleHulk (talk) 17:54, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

  If we hadn't posted the COP26 thing earlier, I would have been fine with posting this as an ending point as generally the overall conference was in the news. But given that we already did and this new piece is not a major piece of environmental commitment compared to the Paris Agreement, double posting this is just not appropriate. --Masem (t) 22:25, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose article is short and unsourced in places. Also, given the Paris Agreement exists, it seems the impact of this is minimal (limited only to reducing coal). Joseph2302 (talk) 09:00, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support on the merits; it's unusual for 197 countries to agree to any single document, even if largely a statement of principles or desires. But agree it is not yet suitable for posting. 331dot (talk) 10:02, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
  • It should be pointed out that not all 190-some signing countries are committed to the same parts of the document: for example, only 40+ are on board with coal reduction. Hence why this is far less impactful as the Paris Agreements. --Masem (t) 13:41, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support original blurb in principle, oppose on quality. The pact is a bit of a damp squib, far less ambitious than expected or required. However we're not here to judge the outcome, just whether it meets the ITN criteria. This is certainly in the news, at or near the top of every quality media outlet. However the pact article is barely a start class and needs some major TLC before being postable. I considered bolding the COP26 article again, but its 'outcomes' section is in even worse state. Modest Genius ^talk 12:20, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment – Conspicuous omission from ITN blurb box. – Sca (talk) 13:05, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Sca As several users have noted, there are quality issues preventing posting. If you want to see it posted, you are welcome to fix those issues. 331dot (talk) 13:43, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Sca In what sense? The article is not good enough for front page quality (as ITN isn't OTD, which likes to post poorly sourced articles), and there's no consensus to post it anyway, as they don't seem to have all agreed anything (as different countries signed different agreements). If you want news pushed out as fast as possible, use a news website. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:44, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

"likes"? Oh, come on. Be nice to our colleagues and neighbours on MainPage. They are rather understaffed there in SA/OTD. It's more like "less than ideal stuff sneaking through too often". But I'm off-topic... --PFHLai (talk) 14:32, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose - given that we already posted the COP26 once, and the headline agreement doesn't appear to be a huge step forward, I don't see a need to post it again. Maybe next time we can hold off posting the opening of such events so that we can capture a one-time interesting headline for readers.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:09, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

November 12

Portal:Current events/2021 November 12

November 12, 2021 (2021-11-12) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Afghanistan conflict Three people are killed and 15 others injured by a bombing during prayers at a mosque in Spin Ghar, Nangarhar Province. (Al Jazeera) Disasters and accidents A Cessna 172 crashes in Hampton Township, New Jersey, United States, killing two people, including businessman and space tourist Glen de Vries. (USA Today) Two Russian paratroopers are killed during military drills near the Polish border in western Belarus. The Ministry of Defence says their parachutes failed to deploy properly "due to a sudden strong gust of wind" during their jumps. (Euronews) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Thailand Thailand delays the reopening of nightlife entertainment venues to January 15 due to concerns about ventilation and inefficient prevention measures in pubs, bars and karaoke venues. (The Independent) Thailand surpasses two million cases of COVID-19. (Asian News International) COVID-19 pandemic in Japan The government announces that they will obtain 1.6 million doses of Merck & Co.'s molnupiravir and have also increased hospital capacities for COVID-19 patients to 30% in order to prepare for a sixth wave of the pandemic. (Kyodo News) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Denmark Denmark reintroduces its digital pass that must be used in nightclubs, cafés, indoor seating at restaurants, and at outdoor events with more than 2,000 people as it reclassifies COVID-19 as "a socially critical disease" amid an increase in new cases. (AP) COVID-19 pandemic in the Netherlands Dutch caretaker prime minister Mark Rutte announces a three-week partial lockdown that requires bars, restaurants, and shops to close at certain times and reintroduces 1.5 m (4 ft 11 in) social distancing measures beginning tomorrow. The Netherlands is the first country in Western Europe to impose a lockdown since the summer. (The Guardian) COVID-19 pandemic in Mauritius Mauritius imposes new restrictions that limit the number of people in large gatherings such as funerals, weddings, and rallies amid an increase in the number of COVID-19 cases despite high vaccination rates. (AFP via France 24) International relations Eritrea–United States relations The U.S. Treasury Department imposes sanctions on the Eritrean Military and other Eritrea-based entities and individuals in an attempt to bring an end to the Tigray War. The sanctions also blacklist the Eritrean ruling party People's Front for Democracy and Justice. (Reuters) 2021 Belarus–European Union border crisis, Belarus–Iraq relations Iraq restricts direct flights to Belarus amid the migrant crisis in at the Belarus–Poland border. (Kurdistan 24) Law and crime Aftermath of the 2021 United States Capitol attack U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland announces that former White House Chief Strategist Steve Bannon has been charged by the U.S. Department of Justice for refusing to testify before the January 6 select committee investigating the Capitol riot and also refusing to provide documents requested by the committee. (NBC News) Britney Spears conservatorship dispute American singer Britney Spears is released from her 13-year conservatorship in accordance with a ruling by judge Brenda J. Penny of the Los Angeles County Superior Court, following allegations of abuse originating from fan speculation, media investigation, and public testimony. (AFP via Manila Bulletin) American journalist Danny Fenster is sentenced by a Myanmar military court to 11 years in prison, after being found guilty of three charges brought against him. (CNN) The European Commission announces its intention to bring the government of Portugal to the European Court of Justice over persistent violations of Directive 2008/50/EC, which limits the amount of certain emissions a country can produce in order to regulate air pollution. (Reuters) Politics and elections COVID-19 pandemic in Latvia, Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on politics The Saeima votes 62–7 with two abstentions and 29 absent lawmakers to ban MPs who refuse to be vaccinated against COVID-19 from voting and participating in the parliament, both for in-person and remote meetings. The restrictions will be in effect from November 15 until July 1. (ABC News) (Reuters) Politics of El Salvador The Legislative Assembly begins to discuss president Nayib Bukele's proposal to regulate criticism of the government by civil organizations and media critics of the government. (El País) Sports 2022 Winter Olympics, Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on sports China reports the first cases of COVID-19 among foreign athletes who will participate in the Winter Olympics, with two lugers from an unidentified nation testing positive. (Reuters)

---

(Posted) Ongoing: Belarus–EU border crisis

Article: 2021 Belarus–European Union border crisis (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: No blurb specified (Post)
News source(s): CNN, AP, BBC, Guiardian, dpa
Credits:

• Nominated by Brandmeister (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: The crisis has reportedly reached a new height recently. November updates are there. Brandmeister^talk 17:53, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support - Definitely for Ongoing. Escalating situation.--BabbaQ (talk) 18:18, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support – Major story, prominently covered for many days. We shouldn't continue ignoring it. Probably May be worth a blurb if something decisive happens. Support Ongoing for now. – Sca (talk) 20:16, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support ongoing it is an ongoing news story, and contrary to other people, there's no rule that it has to be on blurb before ongoing. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:58, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support – Deserved to be in the ongoing section. Major news story as mentioned above and article is more than ready. ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 21:33, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support prominent enough (and updating frequently enough) to justify ongoing. I don't see a potential blurb. The article is not perfect, but it is good enough. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 21:45, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support Ongoing crisis and definitely receiving major coverage. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 22:43, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support ongoing, lots of coverage JW 1961 ^Talk 23:07, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment – Appears to be a strong consensus for Ongoing. Suggest post there now. – Sca (talk) 23:15, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
• Strong Oppose ongoing. It needs a blurb first. It's a headline story in the news this week, so propose one. Then we'll consider ongoing afterwards. How many times do we have to go through this? It's getting ridiculous now.  — Amakuru (talk) 23:20, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Link to the policy page that supports your statement, please? WP:ITN says Any story may be proposed for an "ongoing" link through the normal use of the nomination page. Generally, these are stories which may lack a blurb-worthy event, but which nonetheless are still getting regular updates to the relevant article. suggests this nomination is just fine, procedurally. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 23:24, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

    • Alright, forget it then, I guess you're right in this instance there isn't a very succinct headline. Oppose Struck. I'll post it for you in a second. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 23:35, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

  • I originally thought this was a joke and that this was a user, but then I realized that this is unironically stated by an admin. Wow. Wikipedia can be strange sometimes. --180.244.175.172 (talk) 01:45, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

    Leaving aside your snide comments here, there's no joke I'm afraid. I, along with others, consistently oppose attempts to post stories in Ongoing without giving them a blurb first, because most of the time it's lazy, unnecessary and does a disservice to readers who deserve to be told the reason why a story's important. I made an exception here because it's a rare occasion where there's a big constantly-updated story that doesn't really have one catch-all blurb available. Most of the time we should be blurbing before we put things into Ongoing, that's just common sense given that the stories are big enough to make the news.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:59, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

    • Exactly who are these "others"? And if you think that's the correct thing to do, you and your others could just discuss this to the talk page in order to stop the unnecessary ranting every time someone attempted to get a topic straight to Ongoing. As some users have pointed out (力 above, 331dot, and Indefensible), what you say isn't written anywhere, so it could confuse people. Have a great day. --180.244.175.150 (talk) 16:11, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

      • Amakuru The way the guidelines are written would seem to suggest that the opposite of your position is true(Any story may be proposed for an "ongoing" link through the normal use of the nomination page. Generally, these are stories which may lack a blurb-worthy event, but which nonetheless are still getting regular updates to the relevant article. ). If people want to know why something is important, they will read the article. If you would like to work to amend the guidelines to require a blurb first, please start such a discussion. 331dot (talk) 16:22, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

        @331dot: you know as well as I do that the guidelines are mostly ignored in ITN discussions, in favour of precedent and unwritten custom. According to our "purpose", we are supposed to "help readers find and quickly access content they are likely to be searching for because an item is in the news" - something we blatantly don't do, because instead we evaluate the significance of everything at ITN/C, under the mantra that we're "not a newsticker". I used to argue the opposite, but at some point you accept the status quo. The same goes here. While the guidelines may suggest that something can go straight to Ongoing, in practice that rarely happens. We blurb stories first and then drop it to Ongoing later, that's simply the way it's always worked. It'd be fantastic if we had a set of proper guidelines that we could follow in all cases, but it would need a bit change in the way the discussions on this page work.  — Amakuru (talk) 19:14, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

        Throughout my history here I have always worked for the posting of items that I think are in the news and likely to be searched for. This is not 331dot's In The News, it is a community project, and I accept the consensus of what happens here(that's not a criticism of you, but a statement about me.) I do not claim that blurb-ongoing doesn't or shouldn't happen, only that the guidelines do not preclude (and actually encourage) straight-to-Ongoing posting. I would support clarifying that both are possible if there is consensus to do so. 331dot (talk) 19:22, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

        I agree that most (but not all) of the time, stories should be blurbs before ongoing. If we need to discuss more, perhaps this should move to the talk page. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 19:41, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

• Posted  — Amakuru (talk) 23:38, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose There are many similar migrant/refugee issues elsewhere. For example, Record high migrant detentions at US-Mexico border; Record number of people cross Channel to UK in small boats; Ocean Viking: Nine-day standoff ends as migrant ship allowed to dock in Sicily; Iran deporting thousands of Afghan refugees. These seem endemic as there's a continuous pressure to move from poor and failed states to more stable and successful ones. It's not clear why this particular border should get attention and how it will stop being an ongoing issue. Andrew🐉(talk) 14:40, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Are you arguing that this is not receiving news coverage right now?(a genuine question) This is an example of refugees being used as a weapon, as the Belarus dictator has openly said he would do. There does not need to be a clear end date for something in order to post it to Ongoing; its removal can be proposed if it drops out of the news. If you feel other such events should be posted, please nominate them, we can only consider what is nominated. 331dot (talk) 14:47, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

All of these hotspots are in the news both now and as ongoing for years. To single one out for special attention, there needs to be some special incident and that is best done as a blurb. As an ongoing entry, the linked article should be something more general such as European migrant crisis or List of largest refugee crises. Note that the latter has four entries which extend to the present day. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:32, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

• Weak oppose ongoing, support blurb This seems to be a recent escalation for an ongoing border issue, for which a blurb makes sense IMO. If it's still ongoing by the time it rolls off the template, then it would be fine for ongoing. I know a blurb isn't a specific requirement for items to be added to the ongoing section, but given the inertia common to the ongoing section and the vague timelines that accompany these items (the majority of the time they are removed following lack of regular update for 1-2 weeks), I think encouraging blurbs with roll-over to ongoing should be preferred, and for this item I think makes a lot of sense. Spencer^T•C 19:15, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Then I suggest you make a suggestion for a blurb. Otherwise we are discussing something that does not exist.BabbaQ (talk) 22:19, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment – Fifty-some migrants break through into Polish territory, reportedly aided by Belorussian border guards. [4] [5] [6] (in German) – Sca (talk) 13:53, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

  PS: EU parliamentarians denounce Lukashenko regime's "attacks" on EU/Polish border. – Sca (talk) 18:38, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment – EU FMs unanimously agree on new sanctions against Belarus. [7] [8] [9] [10]
  – Sca (talk) 13:14, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Hugh Leatherman

Article: Hugh Leatherman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The State
Credits:

• Nominated by PCN02WPS (talk · give credit)
• Updated by 96.255.245.135 (talk · give credit) and 192.251.46.138 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: South Carolina state senator for 30 years, died in office. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 15:59, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support Looks good to me. By the way, it was 40 years, not 30. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 03:27, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
• Posted --PFHLai (talk) 13:28, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Ron Flowers

Article: Ron Flowers (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sky, BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Joseph2302 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Joseywales1961 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Club career section needs more sources, then should be good to go. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:42, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support I replaced the citation needed tags with references, looks good for RD JW 1961 ^Talk 21:16, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
• Posted --PFHLai (talk) 05:26, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

November 11

Portal:Current events/2021 November 11

November 11, 2021 (2021-11-11) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Yemeni Civil War Houthi forces storm the former United States embassy in Sanaa, Yemen, taking several Yemeni staffers hostage and removing "large quantities of equipment and materials" from the diplomatic facility. (National Review via Yahoo! News) Internal conflict in Myanmar The Catholic cathedral Sacred Heart at Pekon in the Diocese of Pekhon in Burma’s Shan state was among several structures that were reportedly hit by military artillery fire on Nov. 9 amid continuing armed clashes between government and rebel forces. (Catholic News Agency) (Fides) Business and economy Social impact of the COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom As many as 57,000 care home workers are fired or resign as the government's new "no jab, no job" mandate enters into force in England, which requires care home workers in England, including cleaners and receptionists, to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19. (The Guardian) Disasters and accidents November 2021 India and Sri Lanka floods Twenty-five people in Sri Lanka and 16 people in India are killed by floods that have been affecting both countries in recent days. (Reuters) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in mainland China Beijing imposes new restrictions on conferences and events, recommending that both be held remotely and also recommending that in-person conferences be managed as a "closed loop" after the city reported six new locally transmitted COVID-19 cases in the past 24 hours. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in Israel Israel begins the world's first nationwide COVID-19 drill named "Omega Drill" consisting of three sessions that will test the country's preparation for the possible outbreak of a new and more lethal variant of the virus. (Bloomberg News) COVID-19 pandemic in Vietnam Vietnam surpasses one million cases of COVID-19. (VnExpress International) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in France France reports a new strain of SARS-CoV-2, known as lineage B.1.X or B.1.640, which was first found on 15 October in a school in Bannalec in the north-western region of Brittany, where 24 people got infected; but it was only identified to be a separate strain until much later. The origin of the Bannalec outbreak seemed to be a man in Nantes who had come from abroad a few days before. No cases related to the strain were reported since October 26, but it remains under surveillance. (Jerusalem Post) COVID-19 pandemic in Germany Germany reports a record for the second consecutive day of 50,196 new cases of COVID-19. (CNBC) COVID-19 pandemic in the Netherlands Following several record-breaking daily increases in new COVID-19 cases, including a record 16,364 new cases reported in the past 24 hours, the government deliberates on potential partial lockdown scenarios, which if enacted would be the first partial lockdowns in Western Europe since the summer. (AFP via Barron's) European Union response to the COVID-19 pandemic The European Medicines Agency approves the two antibody cocktails named Ronapreve made by Roche and Regeneron, and Regkirona made by Celltrion to treat severe COVID-19 patients. (Medical Xpress) COVID-19 pandemic in Oceania COVID-19 pandemic in Australia, COVID-19 vaccination in Australia The number of people over the age of 16 years old in Australia who have received their first dose of the COVID-19 vaccine surpasses 90%. (Seven News) COVID-19 pandemic in Fiji Fiji reopens its borders to travel partners, fully vaccinated tourists and diplomats, and people who pass a risk assessment. (RNZ Pacific) International relations Belarus–Ukraine relations, 2021 Belarus–European Union border crisis Ukraine deploys a further 8,500 soldiers and police officers, as well as 15 helicopters, to the border with Belarus to prevent possible attempts by stranded migrants to cross into the country in order to reach the European Union. (Voice of America) Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko says he "would recommend the leadership of Poland, Lithuanians and other empty-headed people to think before speaking," suggesting Belarus would halt natural gas supplies into Europe, if the EU pushes more sanctions. EU member states are to decide some time next week on new sanctions for human trafficking which led to the crisis. (BBC News) Mali–Russia relations Malian Foreign Affairs minister Abdoulaye Diop says that Mali "may ask Russia for help" due to the country's security situation, with Diop also saying that "the very existence of the Malian state is under threat". (Reuters) Foreign relations of Tuvalu Tuvaluan Justice, Communication and Foreign Affairs Minister Simon Kofe announces that the island nation will push to retain international recognition of its statehood and maritime borders in the event that rising sea levels completely submerge the country. (The Guardian)

---

RD: Cristiana Lôbo

Article: Cristiana Lôbo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Exame
Credits:

• Nominated by TJMSmith (talk · give credit)
• Created by Jvbignacio9 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Brazilian journalist. TJMSmith (talk) 00:16, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

• This wikibio is long enough and has footnotes in expected spots. I have to AGF all the non-English refs. The bare URLs in refs need to be dressed, though. Otherwise, this is READY for RD. --PFHLai (talk) 02:32, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Art Stewart

Article: Art Stewart (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): MLB.com; Associated Press; The Kansas City Star
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 00:19, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

• Long enough and with footnotes at expected spots, this wikibio is READY for RD. --PFHLai (talk) 11:51, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 23:49, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Lee Ying-yuan

Article: Lee Ying-yuan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Taipei Times
Credits:

• Updated by Pachu Kannan (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Here's another somewhat thin wikibio of a Chinese politician and government official. It should meet the basic hygiene standards, but it would be great if more can be added on what he did as a minister. --PFHLai (talk) 23:40, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 23:47, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Phyllis Webb

Article: Phyllis Webb (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by AleatoryPonderings (talk · give credit)
• Created by YUL89YYZ (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 04:41, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

• Long enough and with footnotes at expected spots, this wikibio is READY for RD. --PFHLai (talk) 19:12, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. TJMSmith (talk) 00:38, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

RD: Graeme Edge

Article: Graeme Edge (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC etc
Credits:

• Nominated by A lad insane (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Drummer and only original member of the Moody Blues still in the band. Long shot; article isn't great. -- a lad insane (channel two) 00:55, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment a couple of referenced pieces in here, and a few CN tags as well. Fix those up and you'll be good to go

Support Good to go. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 03:25, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

• Please add more references. The orange tags and the {cn} tags asking for more references ought to be addressed before this nom can proceed. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 18:03, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Aga Mikolaj

Article: Aga Mikolaj (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): operawire.com and others
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)
• Created by LouisAlain (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: The article was just created this year. Sad loss (COVID-19, age 51) of a great soprano voice (as the DYK said). Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:52, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support Well-referenced. Nicely done article. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 03:28, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
• Posted --PFHLai (talk) 14:03, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Winter (dolphin)

Article: Winter (dolphin) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tampa Bay Times
Credits:

• Nominated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article well sourced and updated. RIP Winter --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 05:06, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support article looks good enough for RD. And animals with an individual article are eligible for RD. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:07, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support Would be unique to post an animal RD. Heythereimaguy (talk) 15:18, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
  • We've had several dogs, cats, horses, and even a tree ;) But, all good here (I removed an unreferenced non-essential sentence), posting. --Tone 16:01, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

  How about Doug, the world's biggest potato, recently exhumed in NZ? – Sca (talk) 20:22, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Lundin Energy war crimes indictment

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

---

Article: Lundin Energy (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Two top executives of Lundin Energy are indicted in Sweden for abetting war crimes in Sudan. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters, Sverirges Radio, Financial Times,

AP
Credits:

• Nominated by Ugly Ketchup (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Updated with indictment news, may need cleanup. First war crimes trial against corporate executives since the Nuremberg trials. --Ugly Ketchup (talk) 21:01, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose Indicted is not the same as convicted, which is our usually ITN metric. Additionally, this would definitely require more than a single sentence update. --Masem (t) 01:06, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:BLPCRIME, they haven't been convicted. If convicted then maybe then it would be ITN-worthy, but completely inappropriate to post allegations to ITN. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:09, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose – Absent from most RS sites, not generally in the news. – Sca (talk) 13:28, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose any mere indictment. Modest Genius ^talk 13:58, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

(Posted) RD: Lee Maracle

Article: Lee Maracle (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC
Credits:

• Nominated by AleatoryPonderings (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Needs some ref work which I can hopefully get to soon-ish. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 18:31, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support meets quality requirements for RD. NorthernFalcon (talk) 03:48, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 06:28, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

(Blurb posted) RD: F. W. de Klerk

Article: F. W. de Klerk (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  F. W. de Klerk, the last apartheid-era President of South Africa, dies at the age of 85. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ F. W. de Klerk, the last white President of South Africa, who backed an end to apartheid, dies at age 85.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Former South African President F. W. de Klerk (pictured), who negotiated the end of apartheid with Nelson Mandela, dies at age 85.
News source(s): BBC, AP, Guardian, Reuters, Al Jazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Last president of apartheid South Africa. Article being updated at present - Dumelow (talk) 10:56, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

• A blurb candidate? --PFHLai (talk) 11:39, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
• I think an argument for a blurb can be made, that he was a "major figure". 331dot (talk) 11:44, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
• A blurb seems appropriate, a historically important and influential national leader. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:51, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
• I agree that this is blurb-level in significance. --LukeSurl ^t c 11:54, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb Clearly a candidate for blurb. The article doesn’t appear to be in bad shape. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 12:07, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb Transformative leader for South Africa. Even though not all of his views and actions should be glorified, his role in securing a peaceful transition to democracy is undeniable. It wasn't just for symbolism that he got to share the Nobel with Nelson Mandela. Davey2116 (talk) 12:23, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support he's not Mandela (which seems to be used a lot to oppose blurb postings), but he is still an important figure in moving South Africa to democracy/ending apartheid. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:41, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb While early talks began with Botha, the bulk of the negotiations between the ANC and the apartheid regime was through talks between Klerk and Mandela. Scaramouche33 (talk) 12:48, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

  Update I would prefer altblurb2 Scaramouche33 (talk) 16:12, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support blurb - prominent SA politician for a long time. Mjroots (talk) 12:49, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb per Davey2116's and Scaramouche33's comments. --Vacant0 (talk) 12:50, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support blub The man who ended apartheid and made it sure that those who use the Mandela excuse, Only can because of the brave thing de Klerk did. Well written article and fully deserves a blurb. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 12:54, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb article in good nick, historically notable individual, good to go. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 12:55, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support – Transformative. Favor alt1, offered above. – Sca (talk) 13:11, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
• Blurb posted --PFHLai (talk) 13:16, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Do we need to point out that he was white, especially if a picture is provided? We did not post that Mandela was black, but that he was an anti-apartheid leader. I think mentioning apartheid is more beneficial to readers than just the appearance/race. 331dot (talk) 13:15, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Most RS coverage refers to him as the last white president. Since racial apartheid was basically a white-supremacy policy, his race was and is highly relevant. – Sca (talk) 13:22, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

Also if you don't say 'white' then it may be difficult and/or confusing to avoid awkwardly saying 'apartheid' twice.Tlhslobus (talk) 13:58, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

We can switch to alt1 if support is demonstrated here. --PFHLai (talk) 13:18, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

• (Post-Posting) Support Altblurb (ideally altblurb2, but altblurb1 is also OK by me). (Support modified as I've now added Altblurb2, detailed explanation to follow below shortly) I was about to propose an altblurb myself before the current altblurb got suggested, and before the blurb got posted, but ran into edit conflict twice, and I see the proposed altblurb is probably a lot more concise than I could have managed. Our blurb should say as concisely as possible something like that he negotiated the end of apartheid with Mandela (concision may or may not require omitting explicit mention of Mandela, as in the current altblurb). After all, that's why he's really notable and worth a blurb. And if we don't say it explicitly (and our posted blurb doesn't) it arguably makes us look a bit racist to the uninformed, on the basis of 'Why would an Apartheid President deserve a blurb?'. I may or may not try to add one or more other altblurbs shortly, simply to mention Mandela, but I suspect other editors may do a better (more concise) job there than me, as I'm usually not very good at concision. Tlhslobus (talk) 13:28, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

But we're impressed with your use of the word "concision." – Sca (talk) 13:39, 11 November 2021 (UTC)  ;-)

And presumably you're even more impressed with the lack of concision in my use of the word "concision." – Tlhslobus (talk) 13:49, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Well, appropriately, it was your last word (the 175th). – Sca (talk) 14:01, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

• • Not disagreeing on a stronger altblurb, but I would suggest stronger language as he not only backed the end, but (from our article) seemed to actively support steps in dismantling apartheid and making South Africa democratic (obviously he didn't do it alone). Just saying he backed the end seems to be an undercut statement to that point. --Masem (t) 13:37, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

  I used "backed" as a slightly shorter version of "supported" (ex-jnlst that I am). – Sca (talk) 13:43, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

• I've now added altblurb2, and amended my support to support it as my preferred altblurb, tho altblurb1 is also OK by me. The advantages of altblurb2 (compared to altblurb1) is that it avoids mentioning 'white', avoids saying 'apartheid' twice, mentions Mandela, and is stronger and more precise than merely 'backed', while still being only slightly longer than altblurb1. (I've already mentioned above the advantages of either altblurb compared to our current posted blurb). Tlhslobus (talk) 14:16, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

(Altblurb2 just got a little longer as I've added '(pictured)' to show its expected true length).Tlhslobus (talk) 14:25, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

I've deitalicized the situation somewhat. InedibleHulk (talk) 16:56, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support altb-2 Better and more holistic than the current blurb, simply stating apartheid doesn't cut it for the average reader. Gotitbro (talk) 21:14, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment Let us not forget that we should not put the blurbs so long if it's not an essential requirement (in this case we would go up to, possibly, six lines in Main Page). In the same way that we should not forget that in most cases we do not specify so much the reason why that person is remarkable. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 21:36, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
• Consensus for Alt2 has emerged, blurb updated. Stephen 00:48, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
• Post-posting blurb support I support the current blurb posted. Is there a way to include his Nobel Prize win. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 05:08, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

It can be done in several ways. Shortest is perhaps "Nobel-Prize-winning former ...". Alternatively "..., who shared the Nobel Peace Prize with Nelson Mandela for ending apartheid, ...". But I'm neutral on whether it would be a good idea, for several reasons. On the plus side it's fairly important info. On the minus side, it lengthens the blurb. And I had to omit the date to avoid confusion (the prize was 1993, apartheid ended in 1994). And some might argue that it's unnecessary/unbalanced gilding of the lily, and some might want to balance it with a word such as "controversial" (because of his actual or alleged role/responsibility in some of the worst crimes of apartheid, a seemingly still ongoing debate in today's South Africa). Personally I prefer not to risk getting further involved in such an argument. Tlhslobus (talk) 20:09, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

(Closed)(Re-posted) Crew-3 launch

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

---

Article: SpaceX Crew-3 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ SpaceX launches four astronauts on the Crew-3 mission to the International Space Station. (Post)
News source(s): [11]
Credits:

• Nominated by Scaramouche33 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Crewed missions are ITN/R as far as I know. Scaramouche33 (talk) 05:30, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support And you know right. I can’t see any issue in the article. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 10:20, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose To post this when we recently denied Captain Kirk would be partisan boosterism. This just seems to be a routine journey without any special newsworthiness. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:18, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

  I mean, this one actually went into space space. ᵹʀᴀᴘᴘʟᴇ ꭗ 15:28, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

  This wasn't exactly going boldly as the ISS is only 250 miles up – I drove further than that myself yesterday. The main point that the NYT article makes is that this is now over 600 people in space (and they include the Shatner launch in this too). At some point this is routine, rather than special news. Shatner got attention on account of his remarkable age and his celebrity but this launch doesn't have so much going for it. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:05, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

  Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know, only crewed missions that go into orbit are considered ITN/R whereas the Blue Origin mission was suborbital. Scaramouche33 (talk) 16:10, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

  It's ITNR so this opposition can be overlooked. We're here to assess the quality of the article only. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:12, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

  ITNR items do allow to discuss if the specific instance may not be as notable as other elements in broad category (via IAR), though we should not be using ITNC to argue about inclusion of the broad category. (To that end, I have opened a thread at WT:ITN related to removing this ITNR item) --Masem (t) 17:51, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment although space flights are listed on ITN/R, there no actual link to a discussion on there (whereas almost every other ITN/R item has actually had a discussion). Did people actually ever agree that they should all be ITN/R? Joseph2302 (talk) 15:56, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

  Feel free to make a proposal to establish whether there is still a consensus for these at ITNR. This particular venue is not the appropriate place as the item in question currently is ITNR. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:12, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

  This is a direct question about the validity of the ITN/R process to put it on ITNR. Unless someone points to an actual discussion/consensus for space flights being ITN/R, it shouldn't be considered so. That somebody seems to have unilaterally added it many years ago is not a reason to call it ITN/R. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:36, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

  No, to question the validity of something listed at ITNR, start a thread at WT:ITN. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:47, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

• Someone specifically suggested excluding routine ISS crew rotations over 10 years ago. The discussion just seemed to fizzle out without a conclusion. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:31, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

• At another similar discussion, someone else said, "As has been noted, this seems to come up every so often, everyone seems in broad agreement that it needs to change when it does so, and then somehow it fizzles out with nothing being done. Therefore I'm going to be bold and change it ...". That discussion wasn't formally closed either and so the ITN/R entry represents a unilateral bold update rather than some considered consensus. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:42, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

• I specifically raised this and proposed modification a year ago after Crew 1. It's no good people complaining when something is nominated in WP:ITNC when they don't say anything when it's raised at the appropriate venue. -- KTC (talk) 21:23, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

• KTC made a good point at ITN/R but there was low attendance at the discussion and no formal close. It seems clear that ITN/R lacks the participation required to establish a solid consensus. ITN/C is the place that gets the attendance because it's linked on the main page. It's therefore ITN/C that should drive the outcomes. Andrew🐉(talk) 23:41, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose routine event, and claim of ITN/R is not correct, as the ITN/R for space flights seems to have been added without consensus to do so. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:36, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

• Also, lots of information in the infobox is not sourced anywhere in the article, and there's an over-reliance on tweets, which are primary sources. And the "Mission" section doesn't actually explain what their mission is (for what reason are they just going up to the ISS)? Joseph2302 (talk) 16:50, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment. Note that the toilet has been fixed, so no diapers were needed this time. Count Iblis (talk) 17:12, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Shucks, that was what made the last one interesting. – Sca (talk) 17:26, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose there's no news here, just NASA PR cruft. Should be removed from ITNR. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 18:50, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

  Agree. – Sca (talk) 19:33, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support One sentence missing a ref, otherwise its fine. The above opposes are invalid because as of the nomination this is ITNR, full stop.  Nixinova   T   C   20:00, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support as ITN/R Manned spaceflight, article is fine. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 22:59, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support This event also brings the amount of people ever been to space to above 600, however this is also similar to the denied Captain Kirk proposed story. Rafaelmanman (talk) 23:18, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Wow, 600. What an unimportant number. -- Kicking222 (talk) 10:00, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

Without it, there'd be absolutely no way from 599 to 601! But yeah, in space travel context, not at all significant. Just something to beef up the lead section, I assume. InedibleHulk (talk) 12:25, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose Routine, unexciting launch. IAR. -- Kicking222 (talk) 10:00, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

I actually don't disagree that this is routine, and have proposed excluding such launches from ITNR(but not total removal)- but there is no consensus to do so yet and I don't see a benefit to the encyclopedia in ignoring this "rule". 331dot (talk) 10:05, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support good to go, article quality sufficient for this ITNR item. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 11:13, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
• Not ready on quality almost all the infobox information is not sourced in the article- if not sourced in the infobox, it should be added somewhere in the body of the text with sources. This includes all the "Spacecraft properties" information, "End of mission" proposed dates, "Undocking" dates. And using way too many tweets as primary sources instead of actual reliable sources. Good that everyone has ignored these article quality abominations.... Joseph2302 (talk) 11:19, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Easily the least interesting of recent shuttle stories. InedibleHulk (talk) 12:25, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment: on one hand, this is (currently) on ITNR and the article is in reasonable shape - the orange tags seem overkill to me. On the other hand, it's a routine crew rotation, I've been arguing those shouldn't be on ITNR for a decade, and the current discussion on WT:ITN seems to have general agreement that ITNR shouldn't cover this sort of flight, even if it doesn't agree on exactly what the new wording should be. I encourage further participation in that discussion. Modest Genius ^talk 14:05, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
• Posting The result of the discussion so far is that the article quality is sufficient and the item is on ITNR. Some editors disagree with the ITNR criteria, which seems like a reasonable position to consider. However, the decision whether to post this ITN item is not sufficiently important to invoke IAR. Those who think ITNR should be altered are invited to go make that change. Until it happens, this item should be posted. Maybe it will be the last routine posting of human orbital flights, or maybe not. Feel free to continue the discussion. Consensus may change. Jehochman ^Talk 14:17, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
• Now on hold for quality because one editor insists on restoring the orange warning template. I suggest editors who want this posted go address the concerns about infobox information needing citations. This should be easy and quick to fix, and then it can be posted. Jehochman ^Talk 14:38, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

• (edit conflict) Jehochman Are you kidding me? You've clearly ignored all the unsourced text in the infobox, this fails the article quality threshold. I see you removed the valid tags, ignored this quality discussion and the one on the article talkpage, and want to post this anyway. Try fixing all the cn tags before posting, rather than just removing tags. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:40, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
• And I raised the quality concerns 22 hours ago, and nobody has even touched them, so don't imagine it'll be fixed anytime soon. Infobox seems like a whole load of WP:SPECULATION to me. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:42, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

I'm trying to find any info on the launch and landing mass, but no luck so far. Scaramouche33 (talk) 17:53, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

• When the sourced content is crap trivia (or more politely, "NASA PR") like The first astronauts of this NASA Astronaut Group 22 (nicknamed The Turtles) to fly to space, Raja Chari and Kayla Barron on SpaceX Crew-3 took a stuffed turtle as zero-g indicator, to pay a tribute to their astronaut group. Additionally, to include the other crew members on board, Matthias Maurer and Tom Marshburn, the turtle was named "Pfau", a German word meaning "Peacock" for Matthias Maurer who is German, and for Tom Marshburn who was part of NASA Astronaut Group 19 (nicknamed The Peacock). I didn't even bother checking for non-sourced content. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 17:07, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

  If you can improve the article, please do. Jehochman ^Talk 01:12, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

  I can't improve it. It is fully sourced and contains all the important information about the event. The problem is that there is so little important information to cover that the article also has to include unimportant information to not be a stub. Also, I agree that per policy this should be posted; it's not worth being brave to early-close the talk page discussion to remove this from ITNR immediately. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 16:59, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

  As I've said of ITNR before, it should be that any discussion about the rational for posting the broad categories of events should not be debated at ITNC on the basis there was consensus for the ITNR, but individual ITNR noms can be deemed to be so insignificant as exceptions from the category (as this appears to have qualified) as a type of IAR to the ITNR approach. This is of course in addition to the article quality aspects. ITNR is not a blood pact that we have to post every thing that fits. EG: about a year ago there was that Martian (?) sample collector that was first nom'd when it arrived in orbit (which was ITRN) but we decided to wait until news of the sample collection (the first of its sort) as the more notable event. That's the type of logic that should be behind judging ITNR. --Masem (t) 17:12, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

• The missing citations were fixed. Two uncited facts remained, and I just removed them because if we can't find a source after a full day of looking, that calls those facts into question. I will repost this in a moment. Feel free to continue discussion. Jehochman ^Talk 01:12, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
• Post-posting Comment – It's now the least interesting blurb in the box. – Sca (talk) 13:53, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

  Agree. Now would be a good time to recommend changing the ITNR criteria for human space flight. Jehochman ^Talk 15:36, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

• Post-posting Oppose more people being sent to space for little reason, aside from routine? Why is this “news”? 2A01:4C8:481:753A:912B:C8B8:F206:CFDF (talk) 14:21, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
• Post-posting oppose. Routine enough event that it'd never have been approved if it wasn't spaceflight-related. This is systemic bias at work. Jehochman, please reevaluate your determination of consensus here. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 20:05, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

  It's still ITNR, so all Jehochman has to do is assess article quality, as you well know having just voted on the proposal to remove spaceflight entirely from ITNR. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 20:14, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

• Pull - Consensus on ITNR is trending heavily against news items of this sort. The right thing to do would be to remove this from ITN.--WaltCip-(talk) 21:41, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

  Nah, you can't retrospectively apply a trend. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 21:44, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

  Where there's a will.... – Sca (talk) 13:16, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

  Strikes me as churlish and petty now it's been there a few days. And after all, no actual readers have complained about its presence, just some who are lawyering around the edges of the process. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 13:19, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

WP:NPA – Sca (talk) 13:28, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Um, you know the P stands for "personal", right? Oh dear. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 13:32, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Churlish and petty are words characterizing personal acts or traits, are they not?. – Sca (talk) 14:35, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• I would oppose any pulling. The discussion on ITN/R about future postings should have no bearing on this one.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 14:37, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose pulling. This was validly posted and should be left alone. If the next one is not under ITNR, fair enough(though I disagree with its total removal) but this one that was validly posted does not need to be removed. 331dot (talk) 13:21, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support pulling nobody demonstrated this was important enough for ITN, they just used "it's ITNR" as justification. And the discussion has disproved that justification, as consensus is that it's not important. It was a nomination predicated on an untrue assertion. I would support doing the pull as a replacement when the next ITN blurb is added, so we don't have too little content on ITN. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:41, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

That does not change that it was a valid posting when it was made. I don't think we should retroactively change policies. 331dot (talk) 14:42, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

November 10

Portal:Current events/2021 November 10

November 10, 2021 (2021-11-10) (Wednesday) Business and economy At the COP26 Conference, twenty-four nations and a number of leading car manufacturers, including Ford, Mercedes-Benz and Volvo, agree to phase out new petrol and diesel cars by 2030, and end sale of fossil fuel vehicles by 2040. (The Guardian) YouTube dislike hiding YouTube removes the public "dislike" count from all YouTube videos, in an attempt to protect content creators from coordinated "dislike attacks". The change was met with near universal opposition. (Tech Crunch) (Make Use Of) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Germany COVID-19 vaccination in Germany The Standing Committee on Vaccination recommends that people under the age of 30 should only receive the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine due to a higher risk of heart inflammation with the Moderna vaccine among younger people. (DW) Germany reports a record 39,676 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours. (AP) COVID-19 pandemic in Croatia Croatia reports a record 7,315 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 514,850. (Hindustan Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Russia Russia reports a record for the second consecutive day of 1,239 deaths from COVID-19, thereby bringing the national death toll to 250,454. (SwissInfo) COVID-19 pandemic in Argentina, COVID-19 vaccination in Argentina Argentina receives a shipment of 896,200 doses of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine. (Infobae) COVID-19 pandemic in Israel, COVID-19 vaccination in Israel Israel's pandemic advisory board approves the usage of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine for children between the ages of 5 and 11 years old. (The Times of Israel) COVID-19 pandemic in Morocco Morocco lifts its nationwide nightly curfew from 11 p.m. to 5 a.m., which was implemented in order to reduce the spread of COVID-19, due to an improved epidemiological situation in the country. (Morocco World News) 2020–2021 H5N8 outbreak Japan announces that it will cull 143,000 chickens after reporting an outbreak of the "highly pathogenic avian influenza" at a poultry farm in Yokote, Akita Prefecture. (The Himalayan Times) International relations Nicaragua–United States relations U.S. President Joe Biden signs a bill into law, targeting sanctions "on the government of Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega, to restrict multilateral bank lending, and to target regime corruption". (Al Jazeera) China–United States relations During the COP26 conference, U.S. Special Presidential Envoy for Climate John Kerry and Chinese climate envoy Xie Zhenhua announce that the United States and China have reached an agreement on combating climate change. (CNN) Law and crime The lawyer for American journalist Danny Fenster says that Myanmar's authorities have charged him with terrorism and sedition, in addition to three charges that he had already been facing. Fenster's lawyer says that, under counterterrorism law, Fenster could face life imprisonment. (Al Jazeera) The European Commission rejects an appeal from Alphabet Inc., parent company of Google, regarding a €2.4 billion ($2.8 billion) fine charged against the corporation in 2017 for unfairly directing users to its own shopping services. (ABC News) Politics and elections Politics of Sweden Swedish Prime Minister Stefan Löfven resigns after seven years in office, although he will continue to remain in office ad interim until a new government is formed. Minister for Finance Magdalena Andersson, who succeeded Löfven as leader of the Social Democratic Party on November 4, is expected to become the first female prime minister in the country's history. (ABC News)

---

References

Nominators often include links to external websites and other references in discussions on this page. It is usually best to provide such links using the inline URL syntax [http://example.com] rather than using <ref></ref> tags, because that keeps all the relevant information in the same place as the nomination without having to jump to this section, and facilitates the archiving process.

For the times when <ref></ref> tags are being used, here are their contents: