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*'''Wait''' Article is only in its infancy at the moment, though the large number of arrests and the circumstances surrounding them, coupled with concerns I'm seeing over press freedom and human rights, makes this a nom I'd probably support if the article can be improved upon. [[User:DarkSide830|DarkSide830]] ([[User talk:DarkSide830|talk]]) 23:31, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
*'''Wait''' Article is only in its infancy at the moment, though the large number of arrests and the circumstances surrounding them, coupled with concerns I'm seeing over press freedom and human rights, makes this a nom I'd probably support if the article can be improved upon. [[User:DarkSide830|DarkSide830]] ([[User talk:DarkSide830|talk]]) 23:31, 6 April 2022 (UTC)


==== [Posted] RD: Bobby Rydell ====
==== (Posted) RD: Bobby Rydell ====
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(Closed) Päivi Räsänen

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Article: Päivi Räsänen (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Päivi Räsänen is unanimously acquitted of homophobic hate speech charges by the District Court of Helinski. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The prosecution does not contest Päivi Räsänen's acquittal of homophobic hate speech charges.
News source(s): Newsweek, Christianity Today, EuroNews
Credits:
Article updated
Nominator's comments: The trial is an intersection which spans the interest of multiple groups: Freedom of speech advocates, freedom of religion advocates, homosexual rights and traditional marriage advocates, those concerned about prosecutorial abuse, and political pluralism advocates. The prosecution had until April 6, 2022 to appeal this, the verdict becomes final today if there is no appeal.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 14:52, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - My instinct is to oppose on whether this is a notable enough news event to qualify, but I feel like I probably do not know enough about how much coverage this got in Finland to make that judgement. Anyone more familiar have any thoughts on this? 82.15.196.46 (talk) 15:00, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Google News lists many different Finnish language sources in the last six days, including major outlets.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 17:01, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Earlier, Räsänen was the Minister of the Interior, a department which includes the administration of the state church. This was an element of her trial, because she had made public statements with the intention of swaying the state church away from the path which it later took. Räsänen is not part of the current government, yet since the start of this year her Finnish language Wikipedia article has higher peaks than the article for the current Prime Minister of Finland, and about half the total number of views as the current Prime Minister.
As for the relationship with larger world events, her trial attracted protests and commentary in Hungary over the previous months. The blurb about Fidesz relates to this in that the elements in Hungary which supported Räsänen could be assumed to side with Fidesz as opposed to the opposition. In addition part of the trial concerned her prosecution for things she stated before the Finnish government and state church adopted its current positions on homosexuality. Had the trial gone the other way, Fidesz lost, and the opposition enacted similar legislation to Finland's, Räsänen's conviction would have set a precedent to prosecute current high profile Fidesz elected leaders. Concern about the sort of precedent this would set in foreign countries was cited by critics.
The article describes public advocacy, some rather strongly worded, by representatives of 45 Lutheran church bodies, five senators, and ten U.S. academics. This sort of foreign interest is especially because the trial has implications for how foreign nations will balance the various rights. Had the verdict gone the other way, it would encourage similar prosecutions elsewhere. Other aspects of the trial included the prosecutions' formal demand for sentences against the bishop of a small Lutheran church body in Finland, the censorship and fine of an organization related to the denomination, and the censorship of portions of a show from a well known host on YLE, a major public media outlet.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 17:01, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Its still not going to change how any major government is going to be run or have any landmark change in laws or policies. Its not the type of story that works well on ITN due to how narrow it is. --Masem (t) 00:54, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I wrote the blurb earlier but did not submit it because the prosecution said there was a high probability of appeal. In Finland the prosecution can appeal too. Today is the earliest I can say that it won't be appealed to reverse the ruling. It is still within the 14 days for ITN.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 17:01, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
14 days is a rough estimate. Blurbs are posted in (fairly) strict chronological order, and bumped off the bottom when the list becomes too long. The date in the article related to the blurb is March 30. That would place it under the Orban blurb (indeed, also under several other blurbs that have also since rolled off), and as such, would never make the main page. Even if it were otherwise okay. --Jayron32 17:09, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Why not date it to April 6 as this altblurb: "The prosecution does not contest Päivi Räsänen's acquittal of homophobic hate speech charges."? (Added in just now)--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 17:14, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Her trial and/or charges were covered by BBC, Reuters, MSN, The Hill, Washington Post, The Spectator, FOX News, Newsweek, National Review, and U.S. News & World Report. I agree that she was never a world leader. What is especially significant in this story are the decisions of the prosecution.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 17:49, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Procedural oppose Older than the current oldest blurb on ITN from 3 April. The acquital would be the major story, not the alt blurb of the prosecution not contesting.—Bagumba (talk) 17:29, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If I had written the blurb for March 30, I could have gotten a procedural oppose on the basis that District Court isn't very high up in the Finnish judicial system, and that the prosecution plans to appeal.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 17:49, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Her career besides as a minister: on the Riihimäki City Council since 1993, Finnish Parliament member since 1995, an MP, and former chair of the Christian Democrats. Having been on the parliament for 27 years makes her higher in profile than most MPs. I agree to any changes to the blurbs to clarify what her position or positions is or were.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 18:05, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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RD: Vladimir Zhirinovsky

Article: Vladimir Zhirinovsky (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Provocative Russian nationalist politician. Page has a citations tag but is 90% well cited Unknown Temptation (talk) 11:45, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

On second thought, I suggest a Wikiwide ban on any and all mention of Russian politicians named Vladimir – there are too many of them.
Sca (talk) 15:21, 6 April 2022 (UTC) ;-)
[reply]
There are now as many Vladimirs in the Duma as there are Mikes in your House (13). InedibleHulk (talk) 20:20, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support One of the most notable figures in post-Soviet Russian politics. An RD (or even maybe a blurb) would be highly recommended. Dunutubble (talk) (Contributions) 13:04, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Support article is fine, I guess. Subject is not notable internationally, so no blurb. Cheers! Fakescientist8000 13:23, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Very notable actually. Not knowing about him personally doesn't make him insignificant. Dunutubble (talk) (Contributions) 15:46, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strongly Support – Vladimir Zhirinovsky is one of the most significant Russian politicians of this era, and he is pretty infamous internationally. His death definitely warrants a blurb. He is known for his fiery rhetoric (even called "Russia's clown") and outlandish ideas, in addition to playing a significant role in setting the tone for Russia's post-Soviet policies. The only issue I see is that one section of the article needs some more citations, but this is an issue that can probably be remedied rather easily. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 16:41, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality due to being under-referenced. Would oppose a blurb as well (RD only) because the manner of his death does not need extra explanation. If all we can say is that he died, there's no need for a blurb. RD is sufficient. --Jayron32 16:46, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb, doesn't appear that his death is notable enough to warrant a blurb. He was not a head of state or otherwise transformative in his field (... of being a clown?) -- RockstoneSend me a message! 21:24, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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RD: Nehemiah Persoff

Article: Nehemiah Persoff (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Hollywood Reporter
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American actor and painter. The article needs some work to get ready for the MP. --Kacamata! Dimmi!!! 03:23, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2022 Salvadoran gang crackdown

Article: 2022 Salvadoran gang crackdown (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Almost 6,000 people are arrested in El Salvador during a crackdown on gang violence. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ After authoritarian president Nayib Bukele suspends most civil rights, over 6,000 Salvadorans are declared gang members and indefinitely detained without trials.
News source(s): https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2022/apr/05/el-salvador-crackdown-ms13-state-of-emergency
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Hey, I've never done this before, so sorry if this is all wrong. I know this article isn't ready yet (it obviously needs a lead and some reactions by various specific entities, for example), but it's a little too much for me to handle alone, especial if this continues to generate more news coverage, so I thought I should bring it here and see if maybe I can recruit some help this way. Compassionate727 (T·C) 23:23, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wait Article is only in its infancy at the moment, though the large number of arrests and the circumstances surrounding them, coupled with concerns I'm seeing over press freedom and human rights, makes this a nom I'd probably support if the article can be improved upon. DarkSide830 (talk) 23:31, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Bobby Rydell

Article: Bobby Rydell (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Hollywood Reporter
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American singer and actor --Kacamata! Dimmi!!! 00:00, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Patricia MacLachlan

Article: Patricia MacLachlan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Washington Post; Publishers Weekly
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: First reported today (April 5); died on March 31. —Bloom6132 (talk) 19:39, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And RovingLibrarian (sorry I overlooked!) Innisfree987 (talk) 23:45, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2022 Peruvian protests

Article: 2022 Peruvian protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Protests in Peru against inflation and President Pedro Castillo result in at least nine deaths. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Protests in Peru against inflation and President Pedro Castillo result in at least nine deaths and the declaration of a state of emergency.
Alternative blurb II: Protests in Peru against inflation and President Pedro Castillo result in at least nine deaths and the looting of the Supreme Court's offices.
News source(s): Bloomberg, Reuters, France 24, DW
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Large national general strike and rioting not seen in Peru since the 2020 Peruvian protests that resulted with the resignation of President Manuel Merino. Deaths have already surpassed the numbers seen in 2020. WMrapids (talk) 04:39, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

An 'interesting' opinion.

Just as an addendum: France24 is probably not a very valid source, as it's state-owned government media that is entirely under the control of the French government for the purpose of exporting soft power. Ergo, any claim they make must be examined with additional scrutiny. PeaceThruPramana26 (talk) 07:19, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

*Oppose -- at least for now. Propose new blurb if protests continue to grow. -- RockstoneSend me a message! 22:05, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Minister of Finance (Sri Lanka)

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Article: Minister of Finance (Sri Lanka) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Sri Lanka's Minister of Finance, Ali Sabry, resigns one day after his appointment due to the nation's worsening financial crisis (Post)
News source(s): Hindustan Times;Reuters; Al Arabiya, AlJazeera
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Pretty significant development in the ongoing Sri Lankan economic collapse as the newly appointed minister (to replace Basil Rajapaksa, brother of the president Gotabaya Rajapaksa) has already resigned amidst the worst financial crisis in Sri Lanka's post-colonial history. There is now no minister, the government is in chaos, and the crisis only worsens as the days go by. PeaceThruPramana26 (talk) 08:30, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose we don't usually post the resignation of Government/Cabinet Ministers (unless they're the Head of State, which Sabry isn't), as they aren't important enough for ITN. Especially since Sri Lanka has had 3 Finance Ministers in the last year, and 5 in the last 5 years, and Sabry had the role for 1 day before quitting. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:00, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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RD: Joe Messina

Article: Joe Messina (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Detroit Free Press; The Guardian; The Detroit News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 19:15, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Donald Baechler

Article: Donald Baechler (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Art news
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Thriley (talk) 09:16, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Grimes2 (talk) 15:53, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) NCAA Men's and Women's Basketball Championships

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Aliyah Boston
Article: 2022 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Championship Game (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In NCAA Division I men's basketball, the Kansas Jayhawks win the national championship. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In NCAA Division I basketball, the South Carolina Gamecocks win the Women's Championship (Most Outstanding Player Aliyah Boston pictured) and the Kansas Jayhawks win the Men's Championship.
News source(s): Women's Championship, Men's Championship
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Men's championship is ITN/R, women's championship is not. Both were posted in one blurb (in the same format as ALT1 above) last year. The men's tournament most outstanding player (MOP) is Ochai Agbaji of Kansas - typically the men's MOP is the image accompanying the blurb, but there is not an image of him on his article as of now, so I've added an image of the women's MOP Aliyah Boston of South Carolina. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 03:41, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't we do something like abbreviate MVP and have both the term hyperlink and a mouse-over active as to help save wording space, relatively recently on a different sports blurb? --Masem (t) 04:50, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes MOP would be much better, as it's so long at the moment. Make it shorter, which makes it better. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:06, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Shrug. MOP get nixed last year for the expansion.[1] If its not the perennial Americans compaining about "Oxford win..." its Brits not knowing MVP (let alone MOP).—Bagumba (talk) 11:24, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't matter which abbreviation is used as long as its both consistent with the sport (MVP for this event) and that we give a means to quickly ID it with mouse-over text and hyperlink. --Masem (t) 12:07, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, mouse-over text doesn't work on mobile devices. Forcing those people to click through to an unrelated article isn't ideal. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 13:48, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
For reference, here was this year's WP:ERRORS' thread, which was a toss-up on using MOP or expanding it.—Bagumba (talk) 18:32, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD:Pamela Rooke

Article: Pamela Rooke (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Iconic member of Sex Pistols circle. yorkshiresky (talk) 20:54, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Bruce Johnson

Article: Bruce Johnson (journalist) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Washington Post, WUSA
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Longtime anchorman and journalist at WUSA. Cheers! Fakescientist8000 15:00, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: June Brown

Article: June Brown (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Sky News, The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 -- AxG /   12:48, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Striking looks fairly decent now Support Josey Wales Parley 07:06, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

IPCC AR6 WG3

Article: Climate change mitigation (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The IPCC releases Climate Change 2022: Mitigation of Climate Change (Working Group III) as part of its Sixth Assessment Report. (Post)
News source(s): Guardian IPCC
Credits:

 –Jiaminglimjm (talk) 17:59, 4 April 2022 (UTC) Climate science news is news :)[reply]

  • Oppose Part 1 we posted in August 2021. Part 2 was nominated in Feb 2022 but the article was not brought to spec and there was concern we had already posted the first part. The same concerns sit here. --Masem (t) 18:09, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose we posted the first one, but don't need to post every other one too, especially when the news coverage is lower than the first one. Also, article quality is lacking as it's just a lost of bullet points. If it's that important, then I'd expect way more sourceable content to be added. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:03, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Basically,the first Part had already posted, but the article was not brought to spec. Alex-h (talk) 10:52, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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RD: Gerda Weissmann Klein

Article: Gerda Weissmann Klein (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: One of the last few Holocaust survivors, extensive documented her experiences. Article needs much sourcing help. Masem (t) 03:32, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Gene Shue

Article: Gene Shue (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times; NBA.com; Reuters
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 22:33, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Grammy Awards

Article: 64th Annual Grammy Awards (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: We Are by Jon Batiste wins Album of the Year and "Leave the Door Open" by Silk Sonic wins Record of the Year at the Grammy Awards. (Post)
News source(s): CNN, Associated Press
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Ceremony has just concluded. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 03:37, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note that we have had problems with the Grammy ceremony getting updated to quality expected for posting in the past several years, compared to something like the most recent Oscars one. This one is currently also in a similar state that will need a lot more info on the ceremony itself. --Masem (t) 03:47, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    The 2021 and 2020 nominations seemed to have been posted in decent time.—Bagumba (talk) 05:54, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I am just noting as I did in 2021 that getting updates to include the ceremony (and not just a listing of winners) has been a slow process to the point where including the Grammys as ITNR has been questioned but it has not been removed. We need that ceremony information before this can be posted. --Masem (t) 12:10, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just listings of results That complaint is used a lot on pages for elections and sporting events. After some review, I don't see how this or past Grammy pages are any different. At a minimum, shouldn't there be a few sentences of prose on the merits of the winners, at least for Best Record and Best Album?—Bagumba (talk) 08:10, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I still think we shouldn't be posting this. No one gives a shit about the Grammy's and it's evident in the fact that the article never gets quality updates. --WaltCip-(talk) 12:28, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Needs prose on Best Album and Best Record besides "they won". Batiste's win was considered an upset. Bruno Mars of Silk Sonic has also won Best Record before.—Bagumba (talk) 14:33, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose no prose describing winners; I'd think this is needed at minimum, especially for the major categories as Bagumba mentioned above me. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 04:23, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Award articles like Oscars or Grammys rarely discuss the winners beyond the listing unless reliable sources make note of unusual conditions like major firsts or records. Not that there aren't any for this run of the Grammys but that's not been a required section. We still do need more about the ceremony itself before this can be posted. --Masem (t) 04:41, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Ready) 2022 Costa Rican general election

Proposed image
Rodrigo Chaves Robles
Article: 2022 Costa Rican general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Rodrigo Chaves Robles (pictured) is elected President of Costa Rica. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Rodrigo Chaves Robles (pictured) is elected President of Costa Rica, defeating José María Figueres.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In the Costa Rican general election, Rodrigo Chaves Robles (pictured) is elected President of Costa Rica, while the National Liberation Party wins the most seats.
News source(s): Reuters, DW, France24, APNews
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Has been declared winner, political outsider. BastianMAT (talk) 06:17, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2022 Serbian general election

Proposed image
Aleksandar Vučić
Article: 2022 Serbian general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Aleksandar Vučić (pictured) is re-elected as the President of Serbia, while his Serbian Progressive Party loses its majority in the parliament. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In the Serbian general election, Aleksandar Vučić (pictured) is re-elected as President of Serbia and his Serbian Progressive Party wins the most seats.
News source(s): BalkanInsight, DW, France24, BBC, Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Has been declared winner. BastianMAT (talk) 23:17, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the aftermath needs clarification, otherwise the article looks fine. Tone 09:13, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support but what is important is that the SPS loses the majority in parliament. Yes, it did win the plurality of seats but that's not as important. I propose main blurb to remedy this. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 11:45, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support Braganza (talk) 14:25, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2022 Hungarian parliamentary election

Proposed image
Viktor Orbán
Article: 2022 Hungarian parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the Hungarian parliamentary election, Fidesz, led by Viktor Orbán (pictured), wins the most seats. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Fidesz, led by Viktor Orbán (pictured), wins a fourth consecutive term in the Hungarian parliamentary election.
News source(s): Reuters, Financial Times, CNBC, DW, AP
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Big big win for Orban, Reuters describing it as ”crushing”, as it is even more than opinion polls predicted, Orban has claimed victory, opposition has conceded and RS has declared it too. BastianMAT (talk) 21:28, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose needs some refs on opposition primary, results tables need some kind of updating, and I can't remember if we wait for 100% vote check or accept the concessions. Either way, some updating still needed. Why do I never hear anything positive about Orbán? Kingsif (talk) 01:18, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support Important headline that has already been confirmed by multiple global media outlets as a resounding victory in favour of Orban, so I think it would be appropriate to say he won the win as big. PeaceThruPramana26 (talk) 04:03, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support article quality looks good enough. Of the 3 elections held yesterday and nominated here, this is the one that is getting the most coverage (albeit all 3 might get posted, as they're all ITNR). Joseph2302 (talk) 07:59, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posting. I moved the reference in the opposition primary, it covers the entire section now, so it's ok. --Tone 08:49, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Lygia Fagundes Telles

Article: Lygia Fagundes Telles (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Globo.com, Folha de S. Paulo, Estado de Minas
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Brazilian writer --Kacamata! Dimmi!!! 20:19, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Bucha massacre

Article: Bucha massacre (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Russian troops are accused of killing hundreds of civilians in the Ukrainian city of Bucha. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Hundreds of Ukrainian civilians were found dead after Russia's occupation of the city of Bucha.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Hundreds of Ukrainian civilians are found dead after Russian forces leave Bucha, near Kyiv.
News source(s): Reuters, BBC. AP, Guardian, DW, AlJazeera
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Although the invasion is and should remain in ongoing, this apparent massacre is currently the main story on all major media outlets.  Sandstein 20:06, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Strong Oppose As per everyone else who opposed, it is merely an accusation at this point and frankly, the sources just aren't there with the narrative in the article: The Human Rights Watch link doesn't actually offer any supporting evidence of a massacre in the text, aside from witness testimony which cannot be considered authoritative considering the nature of the war and all and thus I think an inline quote is necessary, while another source is some regional Indian newspaper that is basing its reportage off Twitter links. PeaceThruPramana26 (talk) 03:47, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Support because this is a major article that has made hundreds of headlines, per WP:SIGCOV. However, the "hundreds" part should be removed as the exact death toll is unclear. Dunutubble (talk) (Contributions) 13:20, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'd like to add I support altblurb II. Dunutubble (talk) (Contributions) 13:23, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Russia is responsible"? You have information that we all don't? This doesn't give me the greatest faith that you're entering this discussion with a neutral, impartial point of view on this topic. PeaceThruPramana26 (talk) 04:44, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • WP:NPOV doesn't mean we deny reality. We state the facts as they are, it's why we say Donald Trump attempted to overturn the U.S. election (because he did), instead of trying to strike up a "balanced view"; and why we state that evolution is fact (because it is). Same here. Russia is responsible for slaughtering hundreds of people in Bucha; and it's quite obvious when you consider the fact that they were the last ones there. Unless you have another explanation? -- RockstoneSend me a message! 04:55, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • What more evidence are you expecting? Written confessions? Civilians tie their own hands together and then shoot themselves in the head? Or do you support the narrative by Putin and Peskov, and spouted by the official Russian news media, that it's all just made up "fake news" (and that the corpses were played by actors) and/or that the Ukrainians are doing this to their own people (as a punishment for not fighting the Russian invaders)? I'm not sure which is the more ridiculous suggestion. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:31, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I asked for evidence on Ghost of Kyiv, Snake Island, et. al. because it wasn't forthcoming, and look at how those turned out. I don't think it's 'ridiculous' to want to have more evidence on claims made in a war where both sides have been (frankly) rather dishonest from the beginning (and it certainly doesn't help that we have a hysterical mass media that regurgitates claims from government officials without any scrutiny in order to raise Lockheed's stock price). PeaceThruPramana26 (talk) 07:52, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Stunned. So which of those two Russian claims do you offer as reasonable explanation? But you are also claiming that Zelenskyy is somehow in the pocket of Lockheed Martin?? And I don't see the wholly factual reports of the BBC as part of any "hysterical mass media"; perhaps you see Russian Today as the flag bearer for truthful reporting here? I think you should strike out or withdraw your comment. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:53, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with everything you said in the first clause, except that I differ on the interpretation of this 'reality' and that is the source of all contention and why we even have these sort of discussions on Wikipedia in the first place. Regardless, my opinion is not on the Russo-Ukrainian conflict, but the article itself, and frankly I just don't see how the sources hold up. Can you find me where in any of the aforementioned sources that prima facie evidence is given of the claims being made in the text of the article? Because I cannot. PeaceThruPramana26 (talk) 05:46, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No answers to my questions. To which "aforementioned sources" are you referring? What do mean by "the first clause"? Martinevans123 (talk) 17:43, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support Yes, we don't usually post accusations. But gathering evidence for prosecution will take years and simply ignoring these sickening revelations invites the conclusion that we are tacitly accepting Putin's narrative that this is all "fake". Martinevans123 (talk) 07:35, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

* Oppose per WP:CRYSTAL. I wonder who'd salvage Wikipedia's reputation if there's no evidence at the end. This is an excellent example of a speculation that we never post.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:32, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • BBC have already broadcast some of the evidence. Or maybe you think Iryna Kostenko, who had to bury her own son in the garden, was just making it all up? 09:47, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Facts like there being many, many dead civilians? As reported by reliable sources, the only thing that should matter really. Not up to you decide the veracity of those claims made by reliable sources. Or are you claiming the reliable sources are lying here? 91.96.25.17 (talk) 10:30, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't deny the fact that hundreds of civilians were killed; the problem is that the proposed blurb uses an accusation, not a mere fact that someone committed the crime, and there are no reliable sources which report it as a fact.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 10:39, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • So why do you not support the blurb that is supported by RS then? That there are many dead civilians after the russian occupation? It at most implies that russia is responsible, as is done in RS. They don't outright say that Russia is responsible and neither does alt 1. Russian occupation, liberation of area, deaths of civilians. That surely will be in the vast majority of RS about this. What is your problem with alt 1, which is widely supported by RS?91.96.25.17 (talk) 10:45, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I evaluated this as an alleged genocidal act because that's what would make it extremely notable. Otherwise, there's no need to single out this particular event given that it's a war and such events are not uncommon, this is not the first report of killed civilians during the invasion and it's already posted to ongoing. Ukrainian sources claim that around 7,000 civilians were killed. Why do you think that these 300 are more important than the rest?--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:04, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Because RS say so? You know, the thing that shapes all content on Wikipedia. That would be my Wiki answer. Personally i believe there is a difference between bombing civilians, a war crime in itself, and shooting people in the head with their hand tied behind their backs. Both are horrible and there ultimately is no 'less important' when it comes to killed civilians. But i have to ask again, where do the RS come into play in your personal evaluation? There seems a distinct lack between what RS claim, proposed alt1 and your personal synthesis, OR, and what have you, on the matter. You do not base your vote on the claims of RS but on your own view.91.96.25.17 (talk) 11:13, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • If you wish so, it's fine to me. I've stricken my vote above and now I'll oppose because of the arguments in my previous comment (incident during a war, not the first instance of killed civilians and already posted to ongoing). As for your information, there are hundreds of stories covered in reliable sources on a daily basis and the vast majority of them doesn't get posted. That this is covered in reliable sources is a strong case for a standalone article, but that's not enough to consider this for inclusion on the main page.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:48, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rather obviously only a miniscule fraction of of things appearing in RS make it to getting posted at ITN. But this is more than just another article in RS. Due to volume of articles in many different countries, the importance placed on it even by the ones reporting on it and the like. The international condemnation of this event even rising above the other killings of civilians, which by itself were viewed as war crimes. This rose above that, certainly in coverage in RS, which even reported not only on the event itself but the international reaction to the the event. But do as you will, i hope whoever evaluates posting this will give your vote the weight it deserves. Have a good day anyway. 91.96.25.17 (talk) 12:00, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Even then, large amounts of civilians dying is still a somewhat notable event, regardless of the certainty for the responsibility. Dunutubble (talk) (Contributions) 13:22, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support the swathes of dead bodies with tied hands/holes directly through the head are corroborated and in the news, and encyclopedic. We can omit responsibility if there is not enough consensus for that for the time being Bumbubookworm (talk) 10:04, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support this is in the news now, and sources are blaming Russia for this. Yes, there hasn't been a formal investigation yet, but the article and blurbs are supported by reliable sources. Wikipedia is a tertiary source, we report what RSes report. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:37, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • SupportI was about to write something pretty much along the lines of what Joseph above wrote. It is only about what RS claim here, and they have a pretty universal view on the matter. There are dead civilians. And a lot of them. So, is this notable? I sure think so. 91.96.25.17 (talk) 10:42, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I also think alt1 seems better. No allegations, just facts(according to RS anyway). There was a russian occupation of the area, the area was liberated and many dead civilians were found. 91.96.25.17 (talk) 10:52, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. This sad and shocking event was widely publicized and is definitely worth mentioning in the news. --НСНУ (talk) 13:35, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support with the first, factual blurb. Russia has been accused, it is not a violation of policy to report that. We are not accusing them, simply reporting widespread accusations that have led to urgent discussions surrounding further sanctions from the European Union. I have added to the article although it still could do with some minor work. I have also added details of Russia's response and denial. AusLondonder (talk) 13:46, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    You don't believe the dead have been "found dead" -- ?? Sca (talk) 14:30, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I see many forward-looking comments here. So, putting WP:CRYSTAL aside because coverage in reliable sources seems to be strong, shall we post any other similar event in near future (not unlikely given it's a war and who knows what else will be discovered)?--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 14:33, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Can't say, can we: that would be WP:CRYSTAL. There may be "forward-looking comments" here, but the proposed blurbs are pretty rooted in factual events that have actually happened? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:18, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    That depends if there are other events that are ITN-worthy. But this is not a normal part of war, and it's getting substantial coverage, e.g. BBC News has two articles about specifically about this ([2], [3]) showing on their front page- this is incredibly rare for this to happen. If other future events had similar impact and similar news coverage, I would support posting them as well. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:26, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, the coverage is global, and features several expressions of "outrage." We shouldn't ignore this event just because something similar (or of even greater magnitude) might happen in Ukraine in the future. Definitely top-drawer material for a blurb now. – Sca (talk) 16:41, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You can read the coverage yourself. Schönen Tag noch!Sca (talk) 13:52, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • FYI, Guardian is not subscription, you are looking at the wrong site if it is. You can sign up to the Guardian for free, or you can close the sign-up screen blocking articles by clicking "not right now". Their mandate requires they never block access to news, even with free sign-ups. Kingsif (talk) 17:37, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Post Posting Support. If hundreds of people died in a hurricane then there would be no opposition to posting it on ITN; not doing so because they were killed in a war crime would be absurd. I would also support changing the ITN picture from Orbán to the lede picture at Bucha massacre as it explains the situation more clearly than we can in a single sentence. BilledMammal (talk) 00:04, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Keep in mind we cannot call it a war crime under policy. It is definitely the unusual killing of hundreds of civilians by means that are beyond the usual casualties of war, and still appropriate for posting compared to the hundreds of deaths already that have happend in the conflict (that are covered by the ongoing), but we need to watch our language and wording very carefully here. --Masem (t) 00:41, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I wouldn't remove the words "apparent" from the article until there is a consensus in reliable sources or a guilty verdict, but I don't feel the need to avoid calling a duck a duck here. BilledMammal (talk) 01:12, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Post-posting comment – Note that AP is still using the phrase "alleged massacres." – Sca (talk) 12:30, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Delfina Entrecanales

Article: Delfina Entrecanales (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Art Newspaper
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Sourcing looks good. Note: death was confirmed on 3 April, no actual date of death given so far. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:52, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) The Boat Race 2022

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Article: The Boat Race 2022 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In rowing, Oxford win the men's event and Cambridge win the women's event The Boat Race. (Finish of the men's event pictured) (Post)
News source(s): [4]
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Nominator's comments: ITNR, but needs some race summaries. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:57, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support Good to go now. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:45, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted Stephen 23:15, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm sure I didn't and/or won't make any difference here, but I'm still having a hard time fathoming this race. A regional football cup between countries isn't significant for Wikipedia standards, yet a boat race between two white men elite aristocrat universities do. Hmm. 182.2.132.202 (talk) 01:43, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    If it's like Harvard the race breakdown is similar to the country it's in, half the students have been female for decades and they don't care much about your social or economic status anymore (descendants of students slightly overrepresented) and I've heard that no
    non-academic critehas ven laffect on admissions ess tin the United Statesrica. Also these might still be the two best universities on the planTop league unis for almost a thousand years, though the oldest existing university in the Western world is slightly older from 11th century Italy. et. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 05:08, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    It's an WP:ITNR event, so you'd need to discuss at WT:ITN. Also, it gets at least as much coverage as the college sports finals in the US which are listed as ITNR. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:34, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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No-confidence motion against Imran Khan

Article: No-confidence motion against Imran Khan (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: In Pakistan, a no-confidence motion moved by Pakistan Democratic Movement against Prime Minister Imran Khan succeeds. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Pakistan, a no-confidence motion moved by Pakistan Democratic Movement against Prime Minister Imran Khan fails.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In Pakistan, President Arif Alvi dissolves the National Assembly on Prime Minister Imran Khan's advice, after a no-confidence motion by the Pakistan Democratic Movement against Khan is dismissed.
News source(s): Dawn Dawn
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: The National Assembly will be in session shortly and the article will be updated as it concludes. MasterOfMetaverse (talk) 06:09, 3 April 2022 (UTC)  Checkuser note: MasterOfMetaverse is a sockpuppet of Depressed Desi, who commented below: see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Depressed Desi. Mz7 (talk) 02:05, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, User:Hamza Ali Shah about the dissolution of the assembly not being notable. But what's the difference in the outcome between an early dissolution and a non-confidence vote? In most parliamentary systems, it's two different ways to trigger the same process. Perhaps there's a regional nuance I'm missing? Nfitz (talk) 23:36, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That was my thought as well, but the wikipedia article (I admittedly glanced through) seems to imply the same - a dissolution of parliament seems able to be requested by the PM and accepted by the President, at any time, just like in Canada/others - and a non-confidence motion resulting in dissolution, the same result with different steps... at least, that's my ignorant read of it. Canadianerk (talk) 23:57, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
User:Nfitz, the no-confidence motion would not have dissolved parliament but it would have only changed the government. The opposition doesn’t want the parliament to be dissolved (as there’s quite a big chance Khan will regain his majority in parliament if there is an election) so I don’t think it would have been dissolved had Khan’s government been ousted. In other words, an early dissolution leads to election (which the opposition opposes) and the no-confidence vote would have lead to a government lead by the opposition until 2023.  Hamza Ali Shah  01:07, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks User:Hamza Ali Shah - ah yes, I see that would be notable then, with the change of government. I forgot that even here, a non-confidence vote can lead to a change in government too - but it's rare. Convention here is that a non-confidence vote leads to new election (and such events are frequent), unless there just was an election with the last few months - maybe a year. Nfitz (talk) 01:15, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Let's hold off until a successor is announced (if there is a change). Jehochman Talk 00:00, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment We need to reassess here. Non-confidence motions and dissolutions of parliament aren't unique in parliamentary democracies, I think we can agree. What is fundamentally different is that the Pakistani government is alleging foreign interference, and the deputy speaker blocked the motion even coming to a vote, then the PM dissolved parliament anyway. The crux of the nomination, in my opinion, is now whether the act of blocking a non-confidence motion, the allegations of foreign interference, or a combination of, is blurb worthy. Source (taken from article) Canadianerk (talk) 00:14, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment should this discussion be closed as the nominator has been confirmed as a sock account?  Hamza Ali Shah  Talk 15:34, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2022 Women's Cricket World Cup Final

Proposed image
Article: 2022 Women's Cricket World Cup Final (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In cricket, Australia defeat England in the final (player of the match Alyssa Healy pictured) to win the Women's World Cup. (Post)
Alternative blurb: In cricket, England defeat Australia in the final to win the Women's World Cup.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In cricket, Australia defeat England in the final to win the Women's World Cup (player of the series Alyssa Healy pictured).
News source(s): ESPNcricinfo
Credits:

Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: As of right now, the match is still ongoing thus the article will be updated with a match summary once it finishes. MasterOfMetaverse (talk) 05:37, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

April 2

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime


RD: Estelle Harris

Article: Estelle Harris (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Needs a bit more sourcing work before it can be posted Masem (t) 03:07, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is that including or excluding the filmography? Or is the obit doing enough lifting for it? CreecregofLife (talk) 03:51, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Full filmography including TV appearances will need sourcing per standard. --Masem (t) 13:06, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Vance Amory

Article: Vance Amory (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.thestkittsnevisobserver.com/former-premier-of-nevis-has-passed/
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Two-term Premier of Nevis. Could use more coverage on both his cricket and his premiership, not to mention details on his passing. --PFHLai (talk) 02:47, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2022 Sri Lankan protests

Article: 2022 Sri Lankan protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Sri Lanka has declared a state of emergency in the wake of violent street protests against the economic crisis. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Sri Lanka, hundreds of student protestors are dispersed by police using tear gas.
News source(s): Al Jazeera, The News, BBC, AP, Guardian, Reuters
Credits:

 Ainty Painty (talk) 14:29, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why is the system still dating posts April 3? In most of the world it's April 4. – Sca (talk) 14:58, 3 April 2022 (UTC) Oops. Doh.[reply]
We go off UTC 0:00 time, (aka London/Greenwich) for timestamps. --Masem (t) 15:03, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, it's not London time, as London has put its clocks forwards, so is in UTC+1. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:19, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

April 1

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections


(Posted) RD: Maks Levin

Article: Maks Levin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): pravda.com.ua and many
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Photographer killed when covering war, body discovered on this date. - Read interview. Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:24, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Neil Stevens

Article: Neil Stevens (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Canadian Press
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Hall of Fame Canadian sportswriter --PFHLai (talk) 12:42, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: C. W. McCall

Article: C. W. McCall (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Best Classic Bands
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Singer/songwriter: real name Bill Fries. Activist/politician who served as mayor of Ouray, Colorado for six years. Cheers! Fakescientist8000 00:40, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Pope Francis apologizes for the Canadian Indian residential school system

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Article: Canadian Indian residential school system (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Pope Francis apologizes for the Catholic Church's role in the Canadian Indian residential school system. (Post)
News source(s): CBC, WaPo, Guardian, NY Times
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: The pope is the last person to apologize for the Canadian Indian residential school system; the other churches involved apologized in the 1990s, and the Canadian government apologized in 2008. Previous pope's refusal to apologize was notable enough to require several paragraphs in the target article. NorthernFalcon (talk) 15:22, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support This is pretty big news regarding this subject. The article is in very good shape. Nothing to complain about. Cheers! Fakescientist8000 15:59, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose An apology is nice and all but that doesn't seem to be anything actionable here or the type of resolve we'd expect on something like this (eg something like a conviction or the like). --Masem (t) 16:04, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Nobody in their right mind went into this expecting to convict the pope of genocide. The goal was to convince the pope of genocide, and many were surprised to hear him actually plead guilty on behalf of those he understood as evil and contrary to the teachings of Jesus Christ. I wouldn't call the spiritual leader of 1.3 billion people asking the Creator themself for forgiveness and shamefully asking the victims' pardon "nice and all", unless I was trying to be a sarcastic dick or ignorant atheist about it. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:55, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    It is still an empty gesture for all purposes, particularly when the articles covering this talk of other things that could be done. --Masem (t) 13:13, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Not all purposes, but yes, no material reclamation yet. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:33, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose not in the article, also the article says that the Canadian Church apologised in September 2021, so it just seems like an extension of this? Either way, if it's not in the article, we cannot post it, and if it's added to the article, then I'm sceptical as there isn't that much coverage of this. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:10, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Note: Both rationales for opposing above seem to have been ameliorated. The article is updated with April 1 news, and I've added more sources regarding coverage. There are also many more independent and reliable sources from many different countries covering this as well. --Jayron32 16:30, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    No it doesn't, at least for mine. Nothing actionable has happened here; its (hypothetically) if the Russian Catholic church apologized to Ukraine for Putin's invasion - Nothing has changed about the invasion. At least from the CBC there are potentially actionable steps the church could do such as rolling back past policies that would retrify matters. An apology is not really actionable. --Masem (t) 16:34, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I wasn't responding to your rationale, I was responding to the two rationales that Joseph used. Regardless, you don't need to defend yourself to me. Everybody around here already knows how much of a problem I am to the ITN process. You can go back to ignoring me like everyone should. --Jayron32 16:45, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict)It hadn't been updated when I posted. Just because the regular news articles publish it, that doesn't make it ITN worthy. It isn't a front page news story on e.g. BBC News, whereas most ITN-worthy news does usually feature on front pages of most big news websites. This is a valid policy-based oppose, so stop trying to claim otherwise. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:36, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I didn't say it wasn't policy based. I said that they had since been ameliorated, which is to say, fixed after the fact. You can vote however you want. It's no skin off my teeth. You don't need to defend yourself to me. Remember, I am the problem around here. Never forget that. --Jayron32 16:43, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    There is no ITN policy for significance that says anything like what you are saying. The guidelines state that the item must be covered on newsworthy sources (which this is) and that there is a consensus to post. See WP:ITNCRIT. WaltCip-(talk) 18:06, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support This is big news. Hcoder3104☭ (💬) 16:06, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Article is very good quality, article has been updated, topic is in major news sources. Checks all of the boxes for me! --Jayron32 16:30, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose – Per Masem, Joseph2302. These retroactive apologies for historical misdeeds offered by current heads of historically offending institutions may be mollifying for present-day members of the groups wronged, but beyond that have little effect and IMO lack wider significance. – Sca (talk) 17:00, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
PS: I find the pope's thinly veiled rebuke today of "potentate" Putin over Ukraine much more consequential. – Sca (talk) 13:24, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Nice quality article, significant update from new news, covered by every major news outlet, opposition votes (mentions of the Canadian Church, not being front page on BBC News, and lack of something "actionable") are nitpicky IMHO and far less important to consider than the feelings of the affected: First Nations’ Chief Gerald Antoine echoed the sentiment, saying Francis recognized the cultural “genocide” that had been inflicted on Indigenous. “Today is a day that we’ve been waiting for. And certainly one that will be uplifted in our history,” he said. “It’s a historical first step, however, only a first step.”[5] – Muboshgu (talk) 17:26, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • And the "action" at least seems to be that Pope Francis will travel to Canada to apologize in person soon. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:27, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      I feel like that would be the more appropriate time to post it personally. Would what happened today be considered the "formal apology"? Floydian τ ¢ 19:52, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      This delegation traveled the same distance, with the same purpose, in greater number. I'd consider it the first apology. The second, if it happens, will be more personal (for the survivors, relatives and peripheral victims who didn't make this trip) but still as formal as any papal visit. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:12, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Masem and Sca. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 17:39, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - A contextually enormous response from the Catholic Church. We should be in the business of posting high quality articles that are in the news, and that's what this is. --WaltCip-(talk) 18:01, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment As a Canadian raised part Catholic and part Ojibwe (though mostly secular), I personally feel the goodness and bigness of this apology. I accept it as genuine, historic and alright. But I'm not about to contribute to this schism over whether the general Wikipedian audience needs to know. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:07, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per above. Seems notable, one of the biggest headlines right now below Ukraine. Article in good shape. Davey2116 (talk) 19:23, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: The target article is lengthy and difficult to navigate. If this is posted, it may be necessary to make the update into a separate section in the target article and then link directly to that section in the blurb, instead of making the reader try to locate the update. Alternatively, it might be useful to have an update in the lead of the article.
  • Oppose Much as we don't post the 12 country to legalize gay marriage, we shouldn't be post the guy who apologies decades after his peers. As others have stated, this comes with no substantive action (how about dipping into those coffers for reparations?), so posting only serves to praise him for taking an action he stubbornly refused to for a decade. GreatCaesarsGhost 20:29, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    The pope's only peers are previous popes, in Roman Catholicism, none of which ever apologized. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:46, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Uh, no. The pope's peers are fellow church heads and heads of state. But I do think you are hinting at the issue here: an archaic view of the pope's sway as the titular leader of 1/6 of the world who is seen as infallible. Modern Catholics feel comfortable rejecting anything he says that contradicts their priors. GreatCaesarsGhost 17:28, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    More about his papal supremacy than his papal infallibility. Not belittling the Archbishop of Canterbury, either, but Anglicans did have objectively much less to do with this dark chapter in Canadian government. I hear you on his waning influence; per a prophecy I also take somewhat seriously, Francis is the last real pope. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:30, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Significance appears to be limited as evidenced by the fact that news item does not rate its own article. Nice gesture though. -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:38, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support This is historic. It's the recognition of a history involving genocide and is major news for the Roman Catholic Church. -TenorTwelve (talk) 04:46, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose the pope only apologised for the conduct of some members of the RCC, not for the church as a whole. Stephen 06:46, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, yeah, not all of us tortured generations of people in the hopes of eradicating their way of life. Most Catholics are better than that. The worst I've done is adultery. InedibleHulk (talk) 07:03, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Only nine to go then. Stephen 07:20, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Five left, actually; I said adultery was the worst. InedibleHulk (talk) 07:35, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Significant acknowledgement of the evils done by the Catholic Church. The article is comprehensive and well sourced.Melmann 07:24, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The lead of the article says nothing about the Catholic church whose role in this seems to have been similar to numerous other Canadian institutions. As a previous pope already expressed his regrets over 10 years ago, this seems to be just more of the same. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:40, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose not significant enough for posting. The announcement is an attempt at rehabilitating the Church’s reputation without action to settle the victims’ claims. Jehochman Talk 13:42, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Hard no to posting an "apology". Actions speak louder than words, and to anyone who is not a Catholic this means very little or not at all. DarkSide830 (talk) 14:15, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I imagine it means quite a bit to the 1-2/3 million aboriginals in Canada, although perhaps still with a similar sentiment (re: actions vs. words). - Floydian τ ¢ 14:22, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't disagree. There are decent number of combined First Nation individuals and Catholics combined that it would matter too, but I think the lack of progression from words to actions hurts this nom. As also noted above this feels like a face-saving maneuver more than anything. Perhaps not even enough of a "gesture" to call it an "empty gesture". DarkSide830 (talk) 16:00, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Exactly. I obstained on voting because I feel as though the pope coming to the First Nations and apologising is really the epitome of singular events in this ongoing story. This was just an obligated response really. Floydian τ ¢ 17:40, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I agree with the above comments that there must be a very strong presumption against posting official apologies which, by definition, are symbolic actions with limited significance. As mentioned above, this also appears to be only one in a range of apologies for this particular issue too. The only point that gave me pause for thought was the quality of the FA target article but on reflection I am not convinced that this status is actually justified on the basis of the article's current state - hugely long and with more space given to the apologies than to the actual subject itself. I think we should pass. —Brigade Piron (talk) 17:07, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose this is a press release, not a news story. Brazilian man in Italy apologizes for other peoples' actions in Canada. I'm not sure this justifies updating any article, much less front-page coverage. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 20:16, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    He's Argentinian, but whatever. BSMRD (talk) 21:44, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    He's argentinian, but go off. Cheers! Fakescientist8000 01:22, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    He's also in the Vatican City, not Italy, but apart from that... Thryduulf (talk) 09:23, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Sven Melander

Article: Sven Melander (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [6]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: One of the most iconic journalists and comedians in Sweden. --BabbaQ (talk) 22:47, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Nancy Milford

Article: Nancy Milford (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times; The Washington Post
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: First reported today (March 31). —Bloom6132 (talk) 03:55, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Shirley Burkovich

Article: Shirley Burkovich (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): MLB.com
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 19:24, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Human genome sequencing

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Article: Human genome (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Scientists perform complete sequencing of human genome. (Post)
News source(s): CNN, Science
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: The paper was published in Science, so meets our bar in that regard. Looks like this milestone endeavor is finally completed. Brandmeistertalk 10:48, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The human genome article needs a few cites on some of the later sections. Also would want to see more summarizing the complete sequencing (eg how many encoding there are/etc.). But implicit support on the reported accomplishment. --Masem (t) 12:33, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I second that. It's a great science story, and a huge milestone. Tone 13:26, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose We've posted human genome sequencing stories before, e.g. Ancient Native American genome sequenced in 2014. The achievement this time seems to be that the sequence is gapless but this was done in 2020 and announced in 2021, nine months ago. This seems to be rather a technicality so any blurb should make the incremental nature of the achievement clear, rather than it being some wholly new thing. Andrew🐉(talk) 14:55, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • ?Support? I was curious and tried to read through the wiki articles but things seem confusing: the Science article publishes a full genome missing chromosome Y, and CNN article says "the scientists were unable to sequence the Y chromosome originally. According to lead author, the team has managed to sequence the Y chromosome using a different set of cells", but that is NOT in the Science article. Seems to be only in a linked database. Just for context, the Science article says it reduced the number of issues by 80% and still seems to have 24 different "contig" which I am unsure if it refers to the number of chromosomes (which should be 23?) versus the 949 that existed before (i.e. now we have 24 chromosomes instead of 23 but previously the picture had 949 chromosomes?). Perhaps someone can tweak the linked article for better clarity. 188.27.42.181 (talk) 15:11, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose the blurb is too vague. It is both confusing and inaccurate as written. And I think the problem is "there isn't much news here", not "we need to re-write the blurb". User:力 (powera, π, ν) 20:18, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Moana Jackson

Article: Moana Jackson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New Zealand Herald Radio New Zealand The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Influential New Zealander. Article has been tidied up by myself and others, happy to make any further improvements if needed. Chocmilk03 (talk) 22:28, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment In the past it was required for a bibliography section or in this case the Selected publications section to either have the ISBN numbers next to the listed works or references. If that's still the case, then this article needs that section sourced. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 02:09, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@TDKR Chicago 101: Thanks! I'm not really sure myself what the requirements are, but I've added URLs for the journal/conference articles and an ISBN for the book chapter. The listings also include the information that would be included in a full reference anyway (date, volume, page etc). Hope this addresses the point. Cheers, Chocmilk03 (talk) 03:27, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: John T. Richardson

Article: John T. Richardson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article updated and well sourced --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:17, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Censorship of Wikipedia

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Article: Censorship of Wikipedia (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Russian media censorship agency Roskomnadzor threatens to fine Wikipedia up to 4 million rubles (about $49,000) if it does not delete information that goes against the Kremlin's official narrative on the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. (Post)
News source(s): (Forbes)
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Very notable news story, especially for Wikipedia. Desertambition (talk) 21:37, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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