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Instructions

Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the top. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination.

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How to list a new nomination

Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

  1. Nom without image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= }}
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An example of how to use the template is given below. Full details are at {{NewDYKnom}}: 

{{subst:NewDYKnom
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 | status        = new<!--(or) expanded-->
 | hook          = ... that this [[article]] is an '''[[example]]''' ''(pictured)''?
 | author        = User
 | nominator     =
 | image         = Example.png
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  • Note that you should only use one of the above templates for the original hook. If you want to suggest a second, alternative hook for the same article submission, just type it in manually. The above templates output useful code for each submission and if you employ them for alternative hooks, you will mess up the page formatting.
  • When saving your suggestion, please add the name of the suggested article to your edit summary.
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  • If you nominate someone else's article, you can use {{subst:DYKNom}} to notify them. Usage: {{subst:DYKNom|Article name|November 3}} Thanks, ~~~~

How to review a nomination

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, or may suggest new hooks.

If you want to confirm that an article is ready to be placed on a later update, or note that there is an issue with the article or hook, you may use the following symbols (optional) to point the issues out:

Symbol Code DYK Ready? Description
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Please consider using {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page, in case they do not notice if there is an issue.

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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on July 30

MOBIDIC

5x expanded by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 02:57, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Coal Palace

Created by Mcmillin24 (talk). Self nom at 01:52, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lindo lamp

  • ... that unless the museum that has displayed the Lindo lamp for 77 years can raise £300,000 to buy it, the family that owns the lamp will sell it to a private collector?

Created by User:Historicist (talk). Self nom, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 29

Wine and health

  • Comment: Oxford red (FN #2) in Early History section

Created by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 04:39, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Gay Byrne Show

Created by Cargoking (talk). Expanded and nominated by Candlewicke (talk) at 02:47, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Blotched catshark

5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 01:26, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

FBI Honorary Medals

Created by Milkbreath (talk). Self nom at 23:58, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Muong Khoua

Created by SGGH ping!). Self nom at 23:44, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How about using {{convert|80|km}}, like "four soldiers trekked 80 kilometres (50 mi) through the..."? --Milkbreath (talk) 01:48, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Queen of Hearts (poem)

"The Queen of Hearts" from a 1901 edition of Mother Goose, illustration by William Wallace Denslow

Created by Shoemaker's Holiday (talk), Awadewit (talk), Durova (talk), Enigmaman (talk), WereSpielChequers (talk), Stwalkerster (talk) and NuclearWarfare (talk). Self nom at 23:02, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mary Jones (poet)

  • ... that the English poet Mary Jones, called "the Chantress" by Samuel Johnson, did not consider publishing her efforts until pushed to do so by her friends?

Created by DrKiernan (talk). Nominated by Station1 (talk) at 21:58, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cyclone Rona

Image of Rona at peak intensity

Created by Anhamirak (talk). Self nom at 21:44, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Clemson – Georgia Tech rivalry

Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 20:05, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Boletus frostii

  • ... that in Mexico, the common name for the edible apple bolete (pictured) is panzia agria, which translates to "sour belly"?

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 18:35, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ALT=...that Boletus frostii has been described as a "mushroom with character"?

Bill Madden

5x expanded by Windwall (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 18:06, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lionel Casson

  • ... that NYU professor Lionel Casson built a view of ancient maritime history by studying classical texts and archeological studies of ancient shipwrecks and the contents of the amphorae they carried?

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:20, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Palatability

Created by LittleHow (talk). Self nom at 16:59, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Way to Heaven (play)

Created by Historicist (talk). Self nom 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I used "staged" in the article, does that travel? I'm fine with "decorated" or "beautified". As long as we keep it brief, the article gives detail and references.Historicist (talk) 03:41, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gamul House

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 14:52, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Play & Win (band)

  • ... that the Romanian band Play & Win are one of the most successful music producers in the country having over 300 music singles registered at the Union of Composers in Romania.?

Created by Mario1987 (talk). Self nom at 12:10, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

British Rail Class 390

  • ... that the British Rail Class 390 Pendolino owned by Virgin Trainsis the fastest comercial electric rolling stock in the United Kingdom

5x expanded by 206.473220.230 (talk). Nominated by Tyw7 (talk) at 11:17, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Already Gone (Kelly Clarkson song)

Created by Matthewedwards (talk). Self nom at 08:28, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Amanita flavoconia

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 07:32, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 28

Involvement of Croatian Catholic clergy with the Ustaša regime

Jasenovac concentration camp

5x expanded by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 22:50, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander Valentine

Created by DavidCane (talk). Self nom at 13:15, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Status of First Nations treaties in British Columbia

Comment - hard to fit Status of First Nations treaties in British Columbia into a sentence. Any help, ALTs, would be appreciated. -- Esemono (talk) 05:53, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Created by Esemono (talk). Self nom at 03:35, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Radium Hill

Created by Moondyne (talk). Self nom at 03:35, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel Tirona

Created by Uthanc (talk). Nominated by Lenticel (talk) at 02:30, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that Filipino revolutionary leader Daniel Tirona was reported to have been a servant to an American officer that he surrendered to? --Lenticel (talk) 23:54, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lois Hunt

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 02:23, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Henry W. Goddard

5x expanded by Newyorkbrad (talk). Self nom at 01:39, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pope Pius XII's 1942 Christmas address

Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 01:25, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Münchausen by Internet

  • ... that Münchausen by Internet is a pattern of behavior where people feign illnesses in online forums to gain attention and sympathy?

5x expanded by Moni3 (talk). Self nom at 01:23, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Earl Wrightson

Created by Ssilvers (talk). Self nom at 23:42, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1940 Stanford Indians football team

Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 23:13, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sterlingville, Oregon

Created by Little Mountain 5 (talk). Self nom at 22:57, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Californian (1840s newspaper)

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 22:44, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Californian (1860s newspaper)

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 22:44, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

HURDAT

Created by Seddon (talk). Nominated by Jason Rees (talk) at 22:17, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Astronaut-politician

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 22:00, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Committee for Justice and Peace in the Holy Land

Created by User:Historicist (talk). Self nom, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Piscidia piscipula

Created by Pinethicket (talk). Self nom at 21:29, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Porgy and Bess (film)

5x expanded by LiteraryMaven (talk). Self nom at 20:54, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • It seems that about 90% of the original article was deleted for valid reasons cited in the edit summary and on the article discussion page, so I'm not sure if a strict 5x rule applies here. I think this qualifies for DYK. LargoLarry (talk) 13:54, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Frances Munds

Frances Willard Munds

Created by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 20:14, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the wording is intentionally misleading on several issues (the hook also implies that Munds did not have the right to vote at the time of her election). The purpose of a hook is to encourage readers to click on the article link. This is done, in this case, by creating several apparent paradoxes that will hopefully encourage further investigation. Spelling out the details needed to dispel these misconceptions is equivalent to starting a joke with the punchline and works contrary to the hook's purpose. --Allen3 talk 08:18, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fay Ripley

  • ... that while working as a children's entertainer in the 1980s, actress Fay Ripley was set up as a jewellery thief in an insurance fraud attempt?

5x expanded by Bradley0110 (talk). Self nom at 19:26, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chasseneuil-du-Poitou

5x expanded by Saalstin (talk). Self nom at 18:42, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • The ref includes the line "Situé au coeur de la région Poitou-Charentes, sur l'axe Paris-Bordeaux et à 90 minutes de la capitale par TGV (40 trains par jour)" (situated at the heart of the Poitou-Charentes region, on the Paris-Bordeaux axis, at 90 minutes to the capital by TGV (40 trains per day)) --Saalstin (talk) 10:30, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ersatz Yorck class battlecruiser

5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 17:06, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Soap Myth

Gas chamber at the Stutthof concentration camp where small quantities of soap is believed to have been made from the bodies of human victims

Created by Historicist (talk). Self nom at 16:00, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • "2009" for "new"? (to give your hook context when somebody looks it up in the year 3000!) From reading the article, the play appears to be based "around a discussion of the veracity of the evidence" rather than "on the evidence". Long Shrift (talk) 17:16, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The play is about both the evidence and the debate about the evidence, but I think DKY's work best when short.Historicist (talk) 17:56, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The hook is "hooky" enough and the article provides the needed detail. One of the advantages of a DYK hook is that it represents a point in time "now", and doesn't require a date or year as would be needed in an article; A DYK hook will be read on a specific day, while an article may be read 991 years from now. A review of the article shows that the hook is supported. Alansohn (talk) 22:05, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Moslem League of the Western Province

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 15:15, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Douglas Treaties

Created by Esemono (talk). Self nom at 13:48, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Independent Moslem League

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 13:47, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pandora (Skins episode)

Created by 97198 (talk). Self nom at 12:54, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date, and reference verified. Great job on the article. GaryColemanFan (talk) 07:26, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Traxxas TORC Series, Lucas Oil Off Road Racing Series

Created by Royalbroil (talk). Self nom at 12:13, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wasgamuwa National Park

A peafowl enjoying the morning sun

5x expanded by Chanakal (talk). Self nom at 11:30, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Knut Hamsun's obituary of Adolf Hitler

Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 10:44, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Softwarepark Hagenberg

5x expanded by SoWhy (talk). Self nom at 08:18, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Calvatia sculpta

  • ... that the puffball mushroom Calvatia sculpta (pictured) has been described as "a cross between a geodesic dome and a giant glob of meringue"?

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 08:12, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Asparagus densiflorus

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 04:12, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gaze (film festival)

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Self nom at 03:49, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 27

Khaled Mohieddin

Created by Al Ameer son (talk) 19:04, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Madhyamaheshwar

Created by Redtigerxyz (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 14:29, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kalpeshwar

Created by Nvvchar (talk), Redtigerxyz (talk). Self nom at 14:24, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tungnath

  • ... that the Hindu shrine Tungnath is closed during winter and a symbolic image of the temple's presiding deity is moved to Mukunath, 19 km away?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Redtigerxyz (talk). Self nom at 14:10, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Richard H. Sylvester

Created by Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk), Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 04:00, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chamber of Art and Curiosities

Created by Ekem (talk). Self nom at 02:08, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Leroy Walters

Created by Smallbones (talk). Self nom at 21:59, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Panch Kedar

Created by Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Redtigerxyz (talk) at 14:32, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rudranath

  • ... that the river Vaitarani that flows near the Rudranath Hindu shrine, is identified with the "river of salvation", where souls of the dead cross to the other world?
  • Comment: ref at end of para

Created by Redtigerxyz (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 14:49, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

George Burgess (Episcopal bishop)

Created by Coemgenus (talk). Self nom at 13:49, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mackensen class battlecruiser

  • ... that the four Error: {{sclass}} invalid format code: 6. Should be 0–5, or blank (help)s were canceled according to the terms of the Treaty of Versailles in 1919?

5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 13:20, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Marie Wittich

Marie Wittich as Sieglinde in Die Walküre

  • Comment: The character count is 2776. The article has several direct quotes, these have not been included in the count. The article uses a shortened footnote format for the inline citations. Consult the Sources section for full bibliographic information and links for the citations.

Created by Voceditenore (talk). Self nom at 07:05, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pennsylvania budget impasses

  • ... that the Pennsylvania state government has entered into its seventh consecutive budget impasse, and that state employees must continue working unpaid?

Created by Rudimae (talk). Self nom at 02:49, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hook now has citation -- Esemono (talk) 01:36, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
ALT -
ALT -

Vic Hall

Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 02:46, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bartolommeo Coriolano

Bartolommeo Coriolano woodblock print

5x expanded by Ottava Rima (talk). Nominated by Durova (talk) at 01:16, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note - my mathematics for the expansion was a start of approximately 680 to around 3800 characters. This was a 5.78 expansion or so. Other methods may vary (I copy and paste into a character counter, and I rounded for simplicity). Ottava Rima (talk) 01:40, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Noah Ogle Place

Noah Ogle's cabin

Created by Bms4880 (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 01:08, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I would suggest Orlady's, since the tub mill is probably the most notable structure. A second alternative might be mention of the "weaner" cabin, although it's no longer standing. Bms4880 (talk) 14:21, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Better to go with the tub mill. Wasn't sure if the idea of a "tub mill" was well-known enough to be used, but if you think it the most significant part of the farm, why not mention it? Nyttend (talk) 20:37, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Three Popes and the Jews

Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 00:53, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Electro-hydrostatic actuator

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 00:51, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jesse N. Funk

Jesse N. Funk

Created by Jwillbur (talk). Self nom at 00:28, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Venera 4

  • .. that a front part of Venera 4 (pictured), the first probe to land on another planet (Venus), was made of sugar?

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 00:19, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Addams Family (musical)

  • Comment: Article begun in user space on July 23, 2009, moved to article namespace on July 27, 2009.

Created by MearsMan (talk). Self nom at 23:24, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Updated hook per suggestion. —MearsMan talk 05:31, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alt Hook:

  • Comment: I originally avoided a hook about this out of fear that it might be considered too negative, but I figured there wasn't any harm in suggesting it as an alternative. —MearsMan talk 22:35, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vigeland Museum, Oslo Kino

Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 21:32, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jeopardy! Clue Crew

  • ... that over 5,000 people applied to the quiz show Jeopardy! to be a part of the show's Clue Crew, a team of correspondents that film videos used to accompany some of the show's clues?

Created by Gary King (talk). Self nom at 21:24, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Guilian Gary

Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 21:08, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

International Foundation for Electoral Systems

5x expanded by Sadads (talk). Self nom at 20:28, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

God's Providence House

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 19:55, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tsetska Tsacheva

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 19:32, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Where's Herb?

5x expanded by GaryColemanFan (talk). Self nom at 18:34, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hot Springs Mammoth Site

Created by User:Novickas (talk) on July 27, 2009. Self nom on July 27, 2009.

Toes (song)

  • ... that Wyatt Durette, co-writer of Zac Brown Band's "Toes", called Zac Brown at six o'clock in the morning to give him the idea for the song?
  • Comment: This was created on July 3 as a redirect and did not become an actual article until today. That qualifies, right?

Created by TenPoundHammer (talk). Self nom at 16:18, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel Solod

Daniel Solod
  • ... that in 1961 the Soviet ambassador to Guinea Daniel Solod (pictured) was accused of being involved in an anti-government plot, and was expelled from Guinea?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 15:38, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Henry Savage

Colonel Richard Henry Savage

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 14:48, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Inna (Romanian singer)

  • ... that the singles Hot and Love of Romanian singer Inna posted on YouTube reached nearly 12 million views in under one year?

Created by Mario1987 (talk). Self nom at 13:44, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Côte d'Ivoire – Soviet relations

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 12:40, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

El Texano, Jr.

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self nom at 12:24, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Seven Natural Wonders of Romania

Created by Mario1987 (talk). Self nom at 10:59, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Baku Boulevard

  • ... that in 2020, Caspian Sea level rise expected to be 1.5 m caused by climate change, and it could have significant effects for the Baku Boulevard?

Created/expanded by User:NovaSkola (talk). Self nom at 11:39, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Zafar Mahal

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 10:35, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

National Union of Algerian Farmers

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 09:44, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Qayqayt First Nation

--> Created by Esemono (talk). Self nom at 04:41, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • The "of Qayqayt First Nation" at the end of the suggestion looks to be redundant. Why is it pluralised in the first instance? (if it is meant to be pluralised then the verb should agree.) "in" should probably be "of". The article also needs work, as it doesn't explain or link to "First Nation", makes claims as to land holdings which appear to be contradicted later, claims a spoken language for a population of one, and gives the personal details of Rhonda Larrabee. Long Shrift (talk) 09:53, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed your concerns. In Canada aborigine groups are called "First Nations" or "First Nation" singular. Instead of Qayqayt Tribe or Qayqayt Indian Band, in Canada it is Qayqayt First Nation. The address is to the First Nation HQ not Rhonda Larrabee's personal details. -- Esemono (talk) 10:25, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
A couple of points are still outstanding: the "of Qayqayt First Nation" at the end of the suggestion is now definitely redundant per your change of the first instance, and the article still assumes that the reader knows what First Nations is by opening with a statement of what language they spoke rather than a explanation of the term. Long Shrift (talk) 23:38, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed the hook and cleared up the First Nation use in the article. -- Esemono (talk) 05:17, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Herman Everhardus

Everhardus with fraternity brother Gerald Ford, 1932

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 04:39, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Krens

The New York City Guggenheim Museum during exterior renovation

  • Comment: other photos in article of new and expanded museums are pretty cool too. Could say innovative, controversial, iconoclastic, showman, trailblazing, etc if you don't like "flamboyant."

Created by Dbratland (talk · contribs). Self nom at 04:28, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Dao

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:34, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

El Brazo

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self nom at 03:24, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of Cleveland Spiders managers

Created by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 03:09, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 26

2/48th Battalion (Australia)

Created by Woody (talk). Self nom at 11:48, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Indy Grand Prix of Alabama

Created by Patriarca12 (talk). Self nom at 11:45, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

She Belongs to Me

5x expanded by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 02:43, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Meigle Sculptured Stone Museum

5x expanded by Simon Burchell (talk). Self nom at 22:32, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that one of the Pictish stones in Meigle Sculptured Stone Museum in Scotland is said locally to depict the execution of Queen Guenevere by King Arthur?
Note: If ALT1 is used, it might be better to change the image to File:Meigle 2 Vanora.jpg Simon Burchell (talk) 09:42, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ethiopia–Israel relations

5x expanded by Groubani (talk), Soman (talk). Self nom at 08:42, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • The article is expanded now, see [1], 3,720 characters of 'new' material (not copied from country studies) has been added and the article now has 8 more references. --Soman (talk) 10:49, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. Route 10 in Michigan

5x expanded by Imzadi1979 (talk). Self nom at 05:27, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tom Kuzma

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 04:27, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Recession shapes

Created by JayHenry (talk). Self nom at 03:57, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Perhaps. Or perhaps people will understand the concept but be curious about what the other shapes are? And we do know that articles with pictures get more traffic than articles without, so removing the image, even if it makes it "more intriguing" is sure to reduce traffic so wouldn't really be my first choice ;) --JayHenry (talk) 02:16, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Percival C. Pope

Created by Kumioko (talk). Self nom at 03:16, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Some concerns: (1) the "hook" fact in the article must have an inline citation immediately after it—although the alternative hook is properly cited and could be used as-is. (2) The article is currently 1,117 characters. It needs to be a minimum of 1,500 to be eligible for DYK. (3) The article text is too close to the Military Times source. A quick glance at the source showed that the second, third, and fourth sentences in the Biography section are taken straight from the source (changing two minor words isn't sufficient to avoid plagiarism concerns). GaryColemanFan (talk) 23:08, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Both the original and alternative hook facts are now properly cited. The character count is now good (1,723). I would appreciate a second opinion regarding the paraphrasing, as it is definitely better but is still closer than I like (I recognize that I am really tough on that point, so someone with a good understanding of Wikipedia policies could very well say it's just fine). GaryColemanFan (talk) 01:11, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reek Sunday

Croagh Patrick

  • ... that on Reek Sunday, in a tradition of the past 1,500 years, thousands of people from across the world have embarked on an annual national pilgrimage up Croagh Patrick (pictured), some barefoot?

5x expanded by Candlewicke (talk). Self nom at 02:30, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alum Creek State Park

Created by Dincher (talk). Self nom at 01:34, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt. hook DYK... that Sycamore Trail along Alum Creek in what is now Alum Creek State Park in Ohio was a major path on the Underground Railroad? Dincher (talk) 01:59, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of Louisville Colonels managers

Created by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 01:25, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lily Yeats

Lily Yeats at Bedford Park by her father John Butler Yeats

5x expanded by PKM (talk). Self nom at 01:17, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

George Ceithaml

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 01:10, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A Chorus Lie

Created by ThinkBlue (talk). Self nom at 00:22, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alan Garnett Davenport

Created by Dmadeo (talk). Self nom at 23:05, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Basil Ashmore, Wycombe Repertory Theatre

Created by Cryptic C62 (talk). Self nom at 22:41, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Billy Two Rivers

  • ... that professional wrestler Billy Two Rivers gained international fame after moving to the United Kingdom because of a coin toss?

Created by GaryColemanFan (talk). Self nom at 21:25, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Laos–Soviet relations

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 21:18, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Copying may be ok, but that makes it not-new. Cf DYK rules: "Try to pick articles that are original to Wikipedia (not inclusions of free data sources)".
I will attempt some rewrite of the material. --Soman (talk) 08:48, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Macmillan Committee

Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 20:57, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of numbered roads in Kawartha Lakes, Ontario

5x expanded by Floydian (talk). Self nom at 20:40, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

National Day of Hatred

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 20:16, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sukhe Bator Mongolian Pioneers Organization

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 18:02, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lenght and hook verified. Mario1987 08:44, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Howard Engle

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 16:33, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Three Old Arches

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 13:22, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dănuţ Borbil

  • ... that at 162 kilograms (357 lb), Dănuţ Borbil is the heaviest professional armwrestling participant from Romania?

Created by Mario1987 (talk). Self nom at 10:46, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Of course it proves because they are the only professional armwrestlers in Romania and that's the national armwrestling federation website. Mario1987 12:19, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Confederación Nacional del Trabajo (Colombia)

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 10:09, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Huebner, Charles Pomerantz, Rickettsialpox, Rickettsia akari

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 04:20, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Decide on initial capitalisation or not for Rickettsialpox/rickettsialpox (here and in the articles). "coming from" could be just "in", as "the source" is already "coming from". Long Shrift (talk) 11:04, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Church of St. Casimir the Prince, Churches of Kraków

Church of St. Casimir the Prince

  • Comment: Two new articles, from 24 July 2009 and 26 July 2009 respectively

Created by Poeticbent (talk). Self nom at 03:25, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note, will do. – Touched up my own hook a bit. --Poeticbent talk 05:02, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New Departure (Democrats)

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Self nom at 01:31, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Irish Poor Laws

5x expanded by Francium12 . Self nom at 01:31, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Not a new article but expanded from 4,073 to 22,776 bytes. A five fold increase in my book. Do you have a way of checking whther something is actually a fivefold increase? Francium12 (talk) 13:27, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Plagiarism. For example,
Article: In 1849 the Doolough Tragedy occurred when a group of starving people seeking relief gathered outside of the workhouse in Louisburgh.
Source: In March 1849 a group of starving people seeking relief had gathered at the workhouse of Louisburgh.
Please see this Signpost dispatch for the commmunity's definition of plagiarism and how to avoid it.
(Oh, and we do have a script for checking expansions.) Shubinator (talk) 13:59, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Article has been given a decent copy edit Francium12 (talk) 13:34, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 25

Azores Bullfinch

  • ... that the Azores Bullfinch is the most threatened passerine breeding bird in Europe?

5x expanded by Maias (talk). Self nom at 05:03, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Anita Görbicz

5x expanded by Aikurn (talk), Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 22:43, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Doamna Stanca National College, Satu Mare

Created by Mario1987 (talk). Self nom at 21:49, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kölcsey Ferenc National College, Satu Mare

Created by Mario1987 (talk). Self nom at 21:47, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ioan Slavici National College, Satu Mare

Created by Mario1987 (talk). Self nom at 21:44, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Philipp Julius, Duke of Pomerania

Philipp Julius, Duke of Pomerania

Created by Skäpperöd (talk). Self nom at 21:42, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mihai Eminescu National College, Satu Mare

Created by Mario1987 (talk). Self nom at 21:41, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jane Weinberger

  • Comment: This article is expanded from a redirect

5x expanded by Scanlan (talk). Self nom at 13:23, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Love Minus Zero/No Limit

5x expanded by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 20:26, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tony Romano

Created by IMatthew (talk). Self nom at 14:46, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Public houses and inns in Grantham

The Blue Pig

The Angel and Royal
The Angel and Royal
  • ... that although kings have visited The Angel Inn in Grantham (pictured) several times since the 13th century, it wasn't until 1866 that it finally became The Angel and Royal?

Me again. Uncle G (talk) 04:01, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Edwards's Fig-parrot

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 00:49, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Moringen Concentration Camp, Heinz Lord

Moringen concentration camp created by Alex2347 July 23, expanded by NVO; Heinz Lord created July 25, self-nom - NVO (talk) 23:14, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mihai Eminescu National College, Satu Mare, Ioan Slavici National College, Satu Mare, Kölcsey Ferenc National College, Satu Mare, Doamna Stanca National College, Satu Mare

Created by Mario1987 (talk). Self nom at 22:40, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Milan Lazetich

  • ... that All-Pro linebacker Milan "Sheriff" Lazetich, a rodeo rider before joining the NFL, reported that no end or back ever threw a block like a wild pony “when he feels the first touch of a saddle”?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 22:05, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas B. Kay

Thomas B. Kay

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 20:58, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • History, length, online ref (which doesn't actually say the "longest service" but has a list of treasurers with dates of service and I checked pretty carefully) verified. Good to go.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:42, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

St John's Hospital, Bath

Created by Rodw (talk). Self nom at 19:26, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • ALT =
The alt hook brings in a 2nd new article but I'm not sure of the correct way to format two DYKs.— Rod talk 08:32, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Battarrea phalloides

5x expanded by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 18:53, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reorganization of dioceses during World War II

Cardinal Adolf Bertram

Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 18:30, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

James F. Bowman

James F. Bowman, poet and journalist

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 16:08, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yarrow Water

Created by Ben MacDui (talk). Self nom at 15:28, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ernst Ludwig, Duke of Pomerania

Ernst Ludwig, Duke of Pomerania

Created by Skäpperöd (talk). Self nom at 14:41, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Leo Paquin

Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 14:37, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hippolyte De La Rue

Created by Ian Rose (talk). Self nom at 14:04, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Swinburne (lawyer)

Nasal infix

Created by Anypodetos (talk). Self nom at 13:52, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chancery Amendment Act 1858

Abdel Latif Boghdadi

  • ... that Abdel Latif Boghdadi resigned of his position as vice president of Egypt because Nasser adopted a more Soviet Union style system for Egypt rather than closer United States relations?

Created by Al Ameer son (talk). Nominated by Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) at 12:19, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pluk van de Petteflet

  • ... that in the Dutch children's book Pluk van de Petteflet a group of grown-ups get intoxicated from eating mysterious berries, a scene praised by educators?

Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 05:07, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on July 24

Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader

5x expanded by Torsodog (talk). Self nom at 16:10, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ernest Bankey

Created by Gaia Octavia Agrippa (talk). Self nom at 13:12, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Louis Edward Gelineau and Robert Edward Mulvee

Created/expanded by Tajm (talk). Nominated by ImperatorExercitus (talk) at 21:14, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Baseball NT

5x expanded by Spy007au (talk). Self nom at 09:29, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cardinal protector of England

Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 05:26, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

N. P. Smith Pioneer Hardware Store

Created by Orygun (talk). Self nom at 22:29, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Elizabeth Fox, Baroness Holland

Created by Belovedfreak (talk). Self nom at 20:21, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Joel Weisman, Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report

  • ... that a June 5, 1981, report by Dr. Joel Weisman in MMWR about five gay men with an unusual illness is recognized as the start of the AIDS pandemic and "the first report on AIDS in the medical literature"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 04:37, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oliver Fish

  • ... that an upcoming gay plot on the American soap opera One Life to Live featuring sexually confused police officer Oliver Fish invited controversy when an actress objecting to the storyline was replaced?

Created by TAnthony (talk). Self nom at 01:13, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cowan Lake State Park

  • ... that William Smalley, the first settler in the area of Cowan Lake State Park in Ohio (pictured), was held captive by the Lenape twice, for a total of 6 years and 7 months?

Created/expanded by Dincher (talk). Self nom at 17:03, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

MT Montauk

Created by Haus (talk). Self nom at 12:28, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gaius Considius Longus

Created by N p holmes (talk). Self nom at 07:12, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Arrest of Henry Louis Gates

Created by Peregrine Fisher (talk). Nominated by Wehwalt (talk) at 03:26, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

2009 World Series of Poker results

  • ... that despite a poor economy, a record number of people anted up $1,000 in a "Stimulus Special"?

Created by Balloonman (talk). Self nom at 03:13, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

2006 Michigan State Spartans football team

Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 22:25, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Insider (newspaper)

Created by Blargh29 (talk). Self nom at 21:23, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pls see Wikipedia:Did you know/Hall of Fame#DYK hooks with 5 or more DYK articles. --PFHLai (talk) 04:51, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
And L1. Art LaPella (talk) 05:09, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The Insider is short of 1500 characters of prose and contains random info like the cost of subscriptions. More importantly, though, the wording in the John Verbanac article is the same as the source. See this Signpost dispatch for more on plagiarism. Shubinator (talk) 15:34, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Also, the source for Verbanac is from a newspaper published by the University of Pittsburgh. Since Verbanac is on the Board of Trustees for the university, the source is likely to be biased. Please add more reliable sources. Shubinator (talk) 21:10, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I calculate 1533 characters on The Insider (newspaper) with this tool. I have fixed the passages in Verbanic article. I do believe that the Pitt Chronicle qualifies as WP:RS. First, the the article is signed with a byline and it maintains a named editorial and writing staff. So those people are staking their reputations on what they write. Second, the Pitt Chronicle is backed by a University, meaning that the organization also follows principles of academic integrity. It's not some 50 cent rag published in someone's basement. So, I think that it should count as a Reliable Source.--Blargh29 (talk) 00:06, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Prosesize and DYKcheck show 1481 characters. Did you remember to subtract the characters for inline citations (like [X])? I don't think the Pitt Chronicle is making anything up. I do think it's biased. For example, the material in Bill Clinton's biography at his foundation's site is also true. But it's missing some key events that everyone associates with the former President. Similarly, since the Pitt Chronicle is run by the university (not even student-run), it likely only shows the good side of Mr. Verbanac. Shubinator (talk) 03:53, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I see--will expand to hit 1500. Regarding Verbanic: no it's not GA/FA good, but DYK is a lower standard. --Blargh29 (talk) 04:03, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, DYK's standards are lower, but if a cleanup tag could be placed on the article, it's questionable for DYK. For Verbanac I could tag it with {{Like resume}}, {{onesource}}, and {{Primary sources}}. Shubinator (talk) 12:48, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
(out)DYK-related issues with all three articles should now be assuaged. Please re-review.--Blargh29 (talk) 17:32, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I could still tag Verbanac with the three tags. You need to overhaul the article and its references so the Pitt Chronicle has a minority of the references, not the vast majority. Shubinator (talk) 18:15, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
ALT:

Turbomeca Palouste

Created by Nimbus227 (talk). Self nom at 21:20, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ALT:... that a motorcycle powered by a Turbomeca Palouste jet engine broke an ACU speed record at 184 miles per hour? The first hook implied that the bike was called the Palouste, just spotted it. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 17:28, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jared C. Monti

Created by Woody (talk), Kumioko (talk), Jwillbur (talk). Nominated by User:Kumioko at 17:15, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Grub Street

A Victorian depiction of what once was Grub Street

5x expanded by Parrot of Doom (talk). Self nom at 16:19, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good to me. I'm not certain of the distinction between Moorfields and St Giles - I know the latter is a parish which GS was most certainly within, but was Moorfields also a parish? These are questions I have yet to resolve, so if you prefer you could change to 'near London's Moorfields'? Parrot of Doom (talk) 00:41, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think Moorfields was at least partly in the parish of St Giles without Cripplegate, but I'll have a search and see if I can help you out with something more than my vague recollections of London's history. Long Shrift (talk) 01:45, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Great Western Railway wagons

Created by Geof Sheppard (talk). Self nom at 16:04, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

...not more "dated" than the illustrations. "Motor cars" seems quite appropriate to me.--Wetman (talk) 02:00, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I like "motor cars" (certainly more than "automobiles"), I just can't remember the last time I heard it or saw it in print. Probably too much Top Deck. Long Shrift (talk) 00:23, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Quercus havardii

  • ... that the United States’ largest stand of shinnery oaks (Quercus havardii) occupies 2 to 3 million hectares of the southern Great Plains, are hundreds or thousands of years old, and they are only 1 to 2 meters tall?

Created by Pinethicket (talk). Self nom at 10:39, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Revised:... that the United States’ largest oak stand occupies 2 to 3 million hectares of the Great Plains and is composed of ancient Quercus havardii that are 1 to 2 meters tall? Pinethicket (talk) 13:52, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Morgot Marsh's Mouse Lemur

Created by Visionholder (talk). Self nom at 06:50, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Should it be taxon? Although (I think) I understand the hooks, I would really welcome their rewriting into plain English. Is there nothing else those lemurs are remarkable in (forgive me, I know nothing about this field, so as many other WP readers) ? Materialscientist (talk) 07:49, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It sounds like Long Shrift addressed the "sister taxa" issue below. As for more remarkable hooks, sorry, but we're limited. Only one paper has been published on them (that I can find). They are both newly described species to science. I guess we could use this alternate:
  • Taxa would be appropriate as the two species from which the subjects are separated are different, though using "relatives" rather that "sister taxa" might make it more comprehensible to non-biologists (if slightly less accurate). You could also drop "by species barriers formed by" if that is problematical. Finally, there are too many "both"s in the combined nomination "that both...are both". Long Shrift (talk) 09:41, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I guess that could work. I was hoping to use the term "species barrier" to encourage people to read up on speciation. But that hook should be fine. –Visionholder (talk) 14:12, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length and date verified. Separation of both species from their nearest relatives by species barriers also verified. The fact that both species were first described in 2008 also verified by the source provided in the article. Would recommend rewording the hooks above to use as either:
ALT4 "... that that both Morgot Marsh's Mouse Lemur and Arnhold's Mouse Lemur are separated from their closest relatives by the species barriers?, or
ALT5 "... that both Morgot Marsh's Mouse Lemur and Arnhold's Mouse Lemur were newly described in 2008? Rlendog (talk) 17:07, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Arnhold's Mouse Lemur

Created by Visionholder (talk). Self nom at 06:50, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Non-bracelet events at the WSOP

Created/expanded by Balloonman (talk). Self nom at 06:17, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that one of the events ESPN covers is the World Series of Rock Paper Scissors (hands pictured)?

ALT2: ... that the World Series of Rock Paper Scissors (hands pictured) is one of the events ESPN covers?

Or based upon LS's idea,:
*Alt4: ... that some events at the World Series of Poker have been determined by playing Rock, Paper, Scissors (pictured)?---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 14:11, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Personally, I like Long Shrift's alt hook best. The "winning hands" has a nice double meaning in context to poker and r/p/s... That or Alt-6 will very likely drive views to the article to see why. ArakunemTalk 18:52, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I liked LS's idea too, but the reason why I prefer the others is because poker hands have names. If I saw the hook, I would think that there are hands called "Rock", "Paper" and "Scissors." Of course, that might be because I know what a Gay Waiter is (a queen with a trey Q-3), or Mo-Town (Jacks on Five), or Bullets (A-A), or a Dog (K-9), of Good Buddy (10-4), etc. So I might be over thinking it ;-)---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 20:26, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Surafend affair

Created by Canley (talk). Self nom at 05:49, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • The involvement of the Australian troops seems to be not as well-supported as that of the New Zealanders. Also, from reading the article, the massacre was of the men of the village (the women and children having been expelled). Long Shrift (talk) 09:47, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bonneau du Martray

Created by Camw (talk). Self nom at 04:44, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Primo Villanueva

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 04:35, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Geastrum triplex

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 23

Old Dutch Church (Kingston, New York)

  • Comment: Currently tagged with {{underconstruction}}, but let me know if it's been approved and I'll untag it.

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 03:44, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Headlight flashing

  • ... that in 2008 one of Jamaica's most wanted fugitives evaded police capture when a motorist flashed his headlights to warn of police activity ahead?

Created by Scapler (talk). Self nom at 02:47, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sylvia Levin

Created by Scanlan (talk). Self nom at 14:45, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Contempt of cop

Created by Sandstein (talk). Nominated by Dhaluza (talk) at 17:17, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dean Holness

Created by Jimbo online (talk). Self nom at 14:29, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Socorro springsnail

The shell of Socorro springsnail

5x expanded by Snek01 (talk). Self nom at 14:09, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

John Young (businessman)

Created by Hamiltonstone (talk). Self nom at 11:30, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Shahi Bridge, Jaunpur

the Shahi Bridge in Jaunpur today

Created by Faizhaider (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 15:09, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vrouwekerk

Created by Jvhertum (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 14:45, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Moringen concentration camp

Created by Alex2347 (talk), NVO (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 13:53, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Valkyria Chronicles 2

Created by Ominae (talk). Nominated by MuZemike (talk) at 01:50, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gamal Salem

Created by Al Ameer son (talk). Nominated by Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) at 23:26, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

NWA United States Tag Team Championship (New Jersey version)

Created by Truco (talk), ThinkBlue (talk). Self nom at 17:52, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Selborne-Fisher scheme

  • ... that the old rank of mate was revived in 1913 as part of the Selborne-Fisher scheme for the accelerated promotion of promising enlisted personnel to become engineering officers, and ranked with, but after sub-lieutenants and messed separately?

Created by Kirk (talk). Self nom at 13:27, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agaricus albolutescens

Created by ImperatorExercitus (talk). Self nom at 23:35, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and date are fine, and the part about chocolate brown gills is verified, but I read the source as saying the opposite about the discoloration - that it discolors yellow and does not turn brown (page 335 I think). Rlendog (talk) 16:33, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, both references [2] and [3] support the hook...Cheers, I'mperator 17:54, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not sure that the first of those links supports the hook, but the 2nd certainly does. Would suggest rewording the hook a bit since the tawny-brown vs yellow is very close to that source, and the chocolate gill comment feels like an addon and doesn't really flow with the rest of the hook. Maybe "... that Agaricus albolutescens, unlike other species of Agaricus, turns tawny-brown rather than yellow when bruised?" Rlendog (talk) 18:47, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

R v Secretary of State for Home Affairs ex parte O'Brien

Henry Edwards (entomologist)

Henry Edwards, actor and entomologist

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 20:22, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sir Bobby Robson Trophy match

Sir Bobby Robson

  • Comment: created two days ago, expanded today, match takes place on Sunday

Created by MickMacNee (talk). Self nom at 19:51, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

African Cemetery No. 2 (Lexington, Kentucky)

Created by FloNight (talk). Self nom at 16:44, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, looks good. FloNight♥♥♥ 15:58, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Fivefold expansion needs to be within five days of nomination. Article was 2024 characters before expansion; now 2277 (only 1.125x expansion). GaryColemanFan (talk) 20:13, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If you look in the history, [4] then you will see that I moved from user space to main space the same day that I made the nom. This meets the requirement since this is the date that is used not the original date it was started in user space. DYK rule link. FloNight♥♥♥ 20:26, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You're absolutely correct. Length, date, and source for hook verified. Image appears to meet requirements as well. My apologies for the confusion. GaryColemanFan (talk) 20:56, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sidney W. Bijou

  • ... that psychologist Sidney W. Bijou wouldn't punish his 15-year old son for a joyriding arrest as he "had punishment enough", his son recalling that "it can pay off to have a psychologist for a father"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:49, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mahesh Rangarajan

  • ... that Mahesh Rangarajan is a researcher, author and historian who analysed present-day conservation conflicts in India and found their roots in India’s colonial past?

Created by Prashanthns (talk). Self nom at 11:10, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Royal Findhorn Yacht Club

  • ... that the clubhouse of the Royal Findhorn Yacht Club (pictured) was originally the home of its first Commodore, James Chadwick?

Created by Ben MacDui (talk). Self nom at 09:52, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Garboldisham Windmill

Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 08:31, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to persue that line, Garboldisham was the only post mill in Norfolk from 1960 (when Tottenhill Mill was demolished) to 1984 (when the buck was erected at Thrigby Mill). Mjroots (talk) 12:24, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
My alternative could be amended to read "for over 20 years" or "for almost 25 years" then. Long Shrift (talk) 13:10, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

November Nine

  • ... that a former Bear Stearns executive and magazine mogul (pictured) are part of the November Nine trying to prevent logger Darvin Moon from winning millions of dollars?

Created by Balloonman (talk). Self nom at 04:13, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unless I'm missing something, the picture is of some unconnected logging activity so has no direct relevance to the article (a generic picture of an executive or several bears' bottoms would be equally irrelevant). Long Shrift (talk) 09:20, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Changed picture and tweaked lead.---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 14:11, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think the hook is really related to the November Nine concept at all, is it? I mean, they are all trying to win millions of dollars; no player is ever thinking of just trying to take down one particular guy. The hook should be more along the lines of "... that nine players are vying for the top spot of the WSOP 2009 and the $x million first prize?" Gary King (talk) 16:22, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Removed the part about "a coalition" but other than that, the statement is entirely accurate. A bear Stearns executive and President of a magazine are trying to prevent another person from winning millions of dollars. Yes, they are also trying to prevent one another from winning millions as well, but a hook is designed to get people to read further. Your proposal is boring and not a real hook, it is a statement of fact that gives all the key information, not an invitation to read more.---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 19:54, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 22

Pouvanaa a Oopa

Pouvanaa a Oopa Monument in Papeete with the French Polynesian Assembly in the background

Created by Scanlan (talk). Self nom at 13:35, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mechanical plating

5x expanded by Wizard191 (talk). Self nom at 16:33, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Expansion checks out. The hook says "is most commonly used to overcome hydrogen embrittlement" whereas the ref seems to say "is one of the techniques available" to deal with H embrittlement (Dini, p. 27). I couldn't find "most commonly" in the refs. Apart from this point, the refs check out OK. Can the hook be tweaked, or an additional ref added? hamiltonstone (talk) 01:43, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's All Over Now, Baby Blue

5x expanded by Rlendog (talk), Kohoutek1138 (talk). Self nom at 17:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bigipedia

Created by ISD (talk). Self nom at 08:08, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That still gives three "article"s in the same sentence. If you wish to avoid revealing that Bigipedia is a comedy show you could try: ... that the "Bee Whisperer" entry on Bigipedia was inspired by information found using the random article function on Wikipedia?". I am unsure of the regulations (if any) regarding links to internal functions (Special:Random), perhaps somebody else could comment. Long Shrift (talk) 21:31, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm happy to go with "... that the "Bee Whisperer" entry on Bigipedia was inspired by information found using the random article function on Wikipedia?" as a suitable link, but I do also agree that maybe someone needs to see if I should use the "Random article" link. If not, we can just remove it and stay with the new hook. ISD (talk) 06:44, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nelson's Greenbrier Distillery

  • Comment: The citation support for the hook fact is found on page 11 (out of 28) of the cited PDF.

Created by Orlady (talk). Self nom at 12:40, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bayern class battleship

5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 11:43, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

June 1976 protests

Venum Black

  • ... that Venum Black has always been a fan favorite throughout his whole wrestling career and has never become a rudo before even though he has been wrestling for 17 years?

Created/expanded by Wrestling-fantic (talk) 22:23, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dan Rees

  • ... that when Wales rugby union international Dan Rees switched to professional rugby league in 1905, his signing-on fee of £300 was a Welsh record?

Created/expanded by FruitMonkey (talk) 21:07, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Charles E. Richardson

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:23, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Governing bodies of sports in Wales

Created by Daicaregos (talk). Self nom at 19:41, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Snorri Thorfinnsson

5x expanded by Alarichus (talk). Nominated by J Milburn (talk) at 18:21, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Grain

5x expanded by Breschard (talk). Self nom at 16:57, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Expanded and formatted. Any other notes would be appreciated. This article was automatically taken off "under construction" on July 17, I don't know if it can be considered a new article or not. Breschard (talk) 18:32, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • A few points. The "Architectural work" section is referenced, but the reference doesn't say what the article says. Specifically, the source doesn't mention Grain at all, does not say the theater was the first built for hippodrama, and doesn't mention gangs or its destruction. Second, "which might indicate he was a collector of fine art": this is original research without a reference. Third, "The identification of the sitter in the portrait is a matter of some controversy" should be sourced to more than a Wikipedia article. Fourth, the ten paragraphs with a single sentence make the article look like a work in progress. Please consolidate these or flesh them out. Shubinator (talk) 18:33, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Better, but still no. The added reference doesn't say the theatre was the first created for hippodramas. There are still 7 single-sentence paragraphs. At this point I want to see all the references, and since ref 1 (the main source for the article) is offline, I cannot approve this nomination with a clean conscience. Shubinator (talk) 00:50, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Next time around you should mention your objections to offline cites from the get go and not waste so much time. Reference 1 is certainly not the main source for this article. It is additional biographical info. The French external link is supplemented by the offline material.Breschard (talk) 03:50, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am not opposed to offline cites. I see that there are persistent problems with the source not saying what the article says it does, so I want to see the sources. This wouldn't be a problem if either 1) there wasn't a discrepancy, or 2) you fixed all the problems that I saw before coming back. The fact that I still see problems (in the examples I specifically pointed out!) means I have to comb through the references. It's like plagiarism: if someone persistently plagiarizes, and the article has offline sources, no one will approve the nom because they don't feel comfortable passing it without seeing everything. Shubinator (talk) 01:17, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Consortium for Elections and Political Process Strengthening

Created by Sadads (talk). Self nom at 15:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I Fixed the number of charachters in the hook. SADADS (talk) 15:35, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Margarethe Siems

Margarethe Siems as the Marschallin in Der Rosenkavalier, 1911

  • Comment: 2404 characters of prose text. This article uses a shortened footnote format for the inline citations. Consult the Sources section for full bibliographic information for the citations.

Created by Voceditenore (talk). Self nom at 14:49, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Expansion checks out, offline hook ref accepted in good faith. I have a query about the language of having "created leading roles". Did not Strauss create the roles and Siems fill them / perform them / perform in them? Suggest:
... that between 1909 and 1912, the German soprano, Margarethe Siems (pictured) performed in the leading role of three Richard Strauss operas – Elektra, Der Rosenkavalier, and Ariadne auf Naxos? hamiltonstone (talk) 01:55, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"Created" is the normal term used in writing about operas. It means specifically that the singer was the first one ever to sing the role, i.e. in the world premiere. Such singers are called the "role creators" for that opera. See for example [6], [7], [8], etc. It's also used in many singer biographies on Wikipedia. It's even used in the online reference from the New York Times provided in the article :
"Margarethe Siems, a soprano from Dresden, created three Strauss roles: Chrysothemis in Elektra, ..." [9]
Your hook doesn't capture that. If you think an alternative one is necessary then it should be this (although it's less succinct and slightly clumsy):
Best, Voceditenore (talk) 04:59, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hyde Park Movement Party

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 13:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Visayan Spotted Deer

A female specimen

5x expanded by 23prootie (talk). Self nom at 08:50, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • You're going to quibble over .6? I guess with some people size really does matter! :)
Article passes now, OK to go. LargoLarry (talk) 14:33, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The nomination text overstates the achievements of the group. They discovered evidence of the deer that suggested two separate herds were likely to exist. They did not discover two herds. Long Shrift (talk) 23:30, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Article: A survey in 1991 found that the species had already become extinct in over 95 percent of its former range, largely as a result of intensive hunting and extensive deforestation.
Source: ... a survey in 1991 found that the species had already become extinct in over 95 percent of its former range, largely as a result of intensive hunting and extensive deforestation ...
This Signpost dispatch is a useful to guide to plagiarism (as the Wikipedia community defines it) and how to avoid it. Shubinator (talk) 16:04, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Just a quick FYI: the nominator of this article has been blocked until August 9 (unrelated to any plagiarism issues). GaryColemanFan (talk) 20:21, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've rewritten the bits of the article that were straight lifts from the sources. It should be passable now. Long Shrift (talk) 23:16, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The bare URLs should be formatted. Shubinator (talk) 00:30, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Somebody more experienced than me should do that. The bare ref rule seems a little harsh anyway as it is more restrictive than the proposal that was passed. Long Shrift (talk) 00:38, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Er, what proposal? Citations templates are a quick and easy way to format references. Shubinator (talk) 00:53, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The one mentioned in the rule. I'll look at the templates, but I can't promise it will be in time to format these refs. Long Shrift (talk) 01:40, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Links have been formated. -- Esemono (talk) 00:39, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Los Infernales

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self nom at 08:19, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well Dunn, Timothy Well

Created by GaryColemanFan (talk). Self nom at 07:23, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • The tenses and agreement make the sentence a little awkward. If tag team is singular it should be "its ring attire" or if plural they "have been criticized". As regards tenses, "was criticized" sits better with "combined" (assuming tag team to be singular) as the team no longer exists. Also, "combined" might be better replaced with "mixed" to avoid the implication that the bow ties were incorporated into the thongs. Long Shrift (talk) 13:14, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

William Cheyne

Created by Lampman (talk). Self nom at 01:08, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 21

Ethiopian general election, 1973

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 04:12, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cathedral of Our Lady of Tortosa

Cathedral of Our Lady of Tortosa, Tartus, Syria

  • ... that the Cathedral of Our Lady of Tortosa (pictured) in present day Syria was fortified into a small castle in the 13th century, and is now one of the best-preserved religious structures of the Crusader era?
  • Comment: Hook length = 196 characters if "(pictured)" is not counted.

Created by Zozo2kx (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 16:10, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Article: The Cathedral was probably begun in the second quarter of the twelfth century, but was not completed until sometime in the thirteenth.
Source: ... the cathedral was probably begun in the second quarter of the twelfth century, but was not completed until sometime in the thirteenth ...
Article: The transformation of the church into a small castle dates to the 1260s when Tartus was threatened by the Mamluks.
Source: This transformation of the church into a small castle appears to date to the 1260s, when Tortosa was being threatened by the Mamluks.
Shubinator (talk) 01:25, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hasan Nuhanović

Created by Opbeith (talk), Vejvančický (talk). Self nom at 08:58, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm quite concerned about the wording of the clip "... that Hasan Nuhanović was involved in the first civil court action brought by the survivors of the Srebrenica massacre against the Dutch state?" which was not discuss with me before submission.

1. It's not a case brought by "the survivors" - Hasan Nuhanović is an individual claimant. The case being "brought by the survivors" is a description more applicable to the Mothers of Srebrenica's class action case, which is being brought against the United Nations rather than the Dutch state and whose first instance hearing preceded HN's case at the District Court).

2. The "firstness" here is rather artificial as most survivors are likely to be or become involved in claims against the United Nations. The claims against the Dutch state derive from particular circumstances in which refugees admitted to the UNPROFOR base at Potocari for whom it is claimed that the Dutch forces had a special responsibility were ordered to leave the base by the Dutch who thereby failed to protect them from falling victim to the genocide.

3. Hasan Nuhanović is more than "involved", he is the individual whose claim is being heard in the case (which is joined with another specific case brought by the widow, son and daughter of Rizo Mustafic).

4. The use of the expression "the Srebrenica massacre" is contentious and makes many of the survivors angry, because it has been and continues to be used as a way of avoiding having to acknowledge the findings of genocide by the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia and the International Court of Justice. "The Srebrenica genocide" is a comprehensive description which encompasses aspects other than the basic physical killings (the Srebrenica massacre), including the legal deliberations that defined the killings as a crime of genocide. Part of the background to this case is the anomalous situation in international humanitarian law that the Dutch State and the United Nations are falling back on a claim to absolute immunity for the United Nations and its agents which it is argued is inconsistent with the requirement of the UN Genocide Convention that states must act to prevent genocide.

A better wording might be " ... that Hasan Nuhanović is responsible for the first civil court action brought against an individual nation state (The Netherlands) for failure to protect the lives of victims of genocide".

Sorry for the complication, but this is an important issue. Opbeith (talk) 23:37, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

St Michael and All Angels Church, Southwick

St Michael and All Angels Church, Southwick, West Sussex

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 22:40, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel O'Connell (journalist)

Daniel O'Connell, journalist and poet

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 18:22, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kjell Fjalsett, Arnold Børud, Ivar Skippervold, Rune Larsen

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 12:27, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. Neat hook-tweak too. Manxruler (talk) 13:24, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SMS König

5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 22:58, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks, I tweaked the text of the body to state more clearly that the ship was the first vessel in the German line. As for the second, when a ship is forced to scuttle due to enemy action, it's generally considered the same as the opponent having sunk it (i.e., when Bismarck was sunk in 1941). Parsecboy (talk) 12:24, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bridge L-158

  • Comment: The NRHP nom is the only cited source, but it pretty much reiterates all the info in the HAER report included in xlinks

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 22:17, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kim Guadagno

Created by Awbeal (talk), Alansohn (talk), Offenbach (talk). Self nom at 21:38, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that Guadagno should NOT be the "did you know?" but might it be possible that the New_Jersey_gubernatorial_election,_2009#Lieutenant_governor_factor could be "Did you know that the 2009 election for Governor of New Jersey will elect the very first Lieutenant Governor of New Jersey?" Awbeal (talk) 14:01, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
To jazz things up a bit, how about (ALT 1) "... that Kim Guadagno, Monmouth County, New Jersey's first female sheriff, would become the first Lieutenant Governor of New Jersey if elected in November?" or (ALT 2) "... that two women, Democrat Loretta Weinberg and Republican Kim Guadagno, are the major party candidates to become the first ever Lieutenant Governor of New Jersey?" as alternates? Alansohn (talk) 15:35, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Habeas Corpus Act 1862

  • Any chance this can be expanded a bit more? DYKSTATS shows 1525 characters, which includes 32 in the references section. Discounting that, we are left with 1493. The article looks too much like a stub and is classified as one. ≈ Chamal talk 12:57, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Age, length etc OK, but the hook is a little dull and also rather cryptic. How about an ALT:
... that the Habeas Corpus Act 1862 was passed to prevent Britain's courts from issuing writs of habeas corpus in British colonies and dominions? hamiltonstone (talk) 02:51, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Date and second hook reference (colonies and dominions) checks out okay. Length is up to about 1900 characters now, so it passes. First hook's reference (Lauterpacht 1989, p. 27) talks about Bank Bumiputra v. International Tin Council, not John Anderson. Binksternet (talk) 03:03, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Read the last line "..in the case of ex parte Anderson, which was decided shortly before the Habeas Corpus Act 1862 and which was, I believe, the cause of the passing of that statute". Ironholds (talk) 03:26, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

John Ben Shepperd

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 17:10, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Was the trustee of what? Should the "who" be after trustee rather than after 1960s? Long Shrift (talk)

Anna Dorothea Therbusch

Created by S Marshall (talk). Self nom at 16:28, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Conclavist

Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 15:52, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Savidan 20:53, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Taukkyan Roadblock

Created by Shimgray (talk). Self nom at 14:33, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date and length verified and offline ref can be accepted AGF, but is the withdrawal really unexpected? If the allies charged the position they would naturally expect to overrun it wouldn't they? They wouldn't charge it just for fun; definitely not if they didn't think they could take it. ≈ Chamal talk 12:45, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • It'd been heavily defended by a strong force the day before, and through the night. This is the reason they attacked heavily the next morning... and then found that almost all the defenders had left. So, yeah, it was unexpected!
  • If you'd prefer, "... that during the Japanese conquest of Burma in 1942, the capture of the Taukkyan Roadblock was critical in allowing the Allied forces to escape safely from Rangoon?" works without that point, but is a little less interesting. Shimgray | talk | 12:53, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kedarnath Wild Life Sanctuary

  • Comment: Transferred from user space

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 12:11, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Correction noted and Alt. hook given. But its endangered status is due to poaching only for its pod. Hence, IUCN has declared it as EN grade IV category.--Nvvchar (talk) 14:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • The species in the picture is Moschus moschiferus (Siberian musk deer), not Moschus leucogaster (Himalayan Musk Deer). Please come up with an alt hook, focusing on something else. The article is very well-written and I plan to use it as lead hook. --BorgQueen (talk) 16:22, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Susan Fleming

  • ... that despite his non-speaking persona in films, Ziegfield Girl Susan Fleming found Harpo Marx to be "a warm, fun, darling man to talk to", and they married in 1936 after she had proposed to him three times?

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 01:29, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • All good. I find the "his" at the start of the hook clashes with the fact that the first person mentioned is a woman, Susan Fleming. an ALT might be:

Articles created/expanded on July 20

Stop Immigration

Created by Gabagool (talk). Nominated by Geschichte (talk) at 14:05, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Stating what it didn't have seems strange unless it is unusual. Don't many smaller political parties fail to have candidates elected to parliament? Long Shrift (talk)
Maybe, the interesting fact is that they actually held a seat in Drammen. That's unusual for political parties of this type. Geschichte (talk) 16:39, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It is? In Germany, sadly, such parties hold such seats without it being unusual. Undesired is the word I'd use. Is it the first such party to win such a seat in Norway? Or is there any thing special about this far-right party than there is with similar other such parties? I have to agree with Long Shrift that the hook is something that will make me ask "so what?" Regards SoWhy 18:18, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think we could rework the article and hook to state something like "In 1991, Stop Immigration became the first far-right political party to win a municipa council seat in Norway since the overthrow of Vidkun Quisling?" Perhaps some of the Wikipedians more versed in Norwegian politics could have a look at it? --Soman (talk) 18:32, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Such a hook is not uncomplicated though, as it would exclude the Progress Party from the concept of 'far-right'. --Soman (talk) 18:42, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Also, the assumption that Nazis were right-wing is controversial [10], at least in the U.S. Art LaPella (talk) 19:02, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps: "... that the leader of the the Norwegian political party Stop Immigration broke away from the party's sole elected representative to form a new party?". That fact is not currently cited to any source though, and the article also suffers from some translation issues which make it unclear. Long Shrift (talk) 14:16, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
In my opinion the original hook is about as interesting as the average DYK hook. A party such as this winning a seat in one of the larger Norwegian cities is very unusual, but not unique, I think. (I believe the "Fatherland Party" achieved something similar). I thought of a hook similar to the one proposed by Soman, but with the same problems. decltype (talk) 15:47, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Rather than repeat my prolix objections to the first hook here, I'd invite anybody interested to see my reply to Mario1987 on my user talk page (under the title "Hi"). Long Shrift (talk) 17:06, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Komrij's patentwekker

Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 01:16, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • ... that Komrij's patentwekker (Komrij's patented alarm clock) is a book of poetry by Gerrit Komrij describing a rectal alarm clock, inspired by Collofino's scatological work Non Olet?

    The hook is shorter and now referenced in-line. I don't righly understand what is inherently wrong with this proposal or why I should withdraw it. It's a great set of poems, it's very popular, it's been reprinted in a wonderful, illustrated hardback edition by probably the most important literary publishing company in the Netherlands. If editors are squeamish concerning the word 'rectal,' well, you could take that out--though that would damage the hook. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 16:21, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I do not think putting this hook on the front page of WP is a good idea. As to the popularity of the book, it is limited to <300 of Dutch web-links, which is very low for "the most important literary publishing company in the Netherlands", and is simply an echo of the fact that the book is available for sale. Tussen haakjes, the hook is still unsupported - ref. 2 implies, but does not mention the book. Materialscientist (talk) 06:00, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I don't get it. If you're denying that De Bezige Bij is probably the most important etc., then that would be really strange. That publishing company has fewer than 300 Dutch weblinks? That makes no sense. Are you confusing the book and the company? As for the hook, the sources says "Komrij werd uitvinder van de patentwekker (ontstoken kaars in anus: vroeg opstaan – diep inbrengen)." In good English, "Komrij was the inventor of the patented alarm clock (lit candle in anus: rise early, insert deeply." I think that would support the hook, unless one would doubt that "Komrij werd uitvinder van de patentwekker" is a reference to "Komrij's patentwekker." (Literary critics sometimes play such word games.)

But just to make sure, I've made an extra link to the reference from de Volkskrant, which has now become reference nr. 3. That article paraphrases the design (in first person, as a literary trope--don't pay too much attention to it): "Het hoofddoel van mijn uitvinding is de productie van een wekker in de vorm van een kaars uit Gouda waarop met een potlood streepjes worden gezet waarbij elk streepje het verstrijken van een uur markeert (*) Het voordeel van mijn wekker is dat die eenvoudig in de aars van de slaper gestoken kan worden en wel zo diep dat het gewenste aantal uren nachtrust uit voornoemde aars van de slaper steekt (*) en dat de kaarsvlam na het opbranden van dit aantal uren de slaper wekt." I will be glad to translate that passage, but I'm sure there's enough occurrences of the word "anus," in Dutch and English, on this talk page. Let me assure you, it's quite literal.

To address your first point last: that's all you. Wikipedia non olet, and neither does poetry. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 01:27, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ref. issue is fixed, but others not, IMO. You don't need to translate Dutch for me. Materialscientist (talk) 07:51, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well, thank you for your time and your comments, and maybe someone else can have a look at this nomination. We obviously have different opinions on what topics are suitable for inclusion in an encyclopedia. Drmies (talk) 12:27, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see anything wrong with the suggestion (I prefer the second version, as the first version reveals something of the mechanics without the requirement to read the article). On the question of encyclopaedic merit, my personal threshold for inclusion would be far above the Wikipedia standard, so I can not usefully comment. Long Shrift (talk) 13:07, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pennsylvania State Capitol

The second Pennsylvania capitol building

5x expanded by Dtbohrer (talk). Self nom at 19:56, 20 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

T.H.E. Fox

Created/expanded by RP9 (talk), GreenReaper (talk). Self nom at 01:10, 20 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Then let us switch to this:
GreenReaper (talk) 21:55, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The alt hook is definitely more supportable, and I like that there are now multiple refs for this. (Finding "the earliest" of anything is always tough to verify, as my Bell System research has proven.). Length and date for the article are good. Blackbirdz and MaterialScientist, do you still have concerns with this hook? ArakunemTalk 18:20, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 19

Per Kristiansen

  • ... that Per Kristiansen has written booklets on orienteering themes such as training advice, psychological factors, and quality control during planning and accomplishment of competitions?

5x expanded by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 20:43, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Everything checks out (AGF on offline, foreign-language source), but the hook is not very interesting. There's nothing special in itself about writing booklets. You might write a hook that relates to his competition and the medals he's been awarded. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:49, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Azm Palace (Hama)

Upper courtyard of the palace

  • ... that the Azm Palace (pictured) in Hama, Syria, has been regarded as "one of the loveliest Ottoman residential buildings in Syria"?

Created by Al Ameer son (talk). Nominated by Zozo2kx (talk) at 11:25, 20 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Why not use the original Burns book as the reference? The Lonely Planet is written by over-stressed writers who don't necessarily check everything for accuracy. Do we know that Burns really put this phrase in his book? Binksternet (talk) 01:21, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Monuments of Syria is unavailable online. However, I don't think they would lie about this since they attribute it to the author and his book and because I'm pretty sure the book being used in the article is an RS. If you really feel uncomfortable with it, perhaps a different hook? --Al Ameer son (talk) 04:07, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No, no sweat. I just thought you might have a copy of Burns. The hook is a good choice, and the reference may well be accepted in good faith. Binksternet (talk) 04:10, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
According to an Amazon book preview of Monuments of Syria, "Beit al-Azem of Hama" is on page 128. So we could cite it, but I don't know exactly what the text on that page says. I got the page number from the index. Thank you for assuming good faith. I'll try to find a way to read it for my own sake anyway though. Cheers! --Al Ameer son (talk) 04:13, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Article text is very similar to sources. Examples: "Burns singles out the haramlek as being particularly noteworthy" vs. "Burns singles out the haramlek...as being particularly noteworthy"; "At one end is a liwan with three sides where the residents used to sit" vs. "At one end is a liwan with 3 sides where the residents used to sit"; "The second floor courtyard was purposely built to make use of breezes and the cool air" vs. "The second floor courtyard was built to make use of breezes and the cool air". I consider this too close for comfort. GaryColemanFan (talk) 07:40, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I fixed it. How is it now? --Al Ameer son (talk) 21:20, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Only the three sentences were reworded. I just gave a few examples to point out a problem with the article as a whole. I believe the article needs a copyedit to reword most of the content if quick checks on three sentences revealed plagiarism problems. GaryColemanFan (talk) 22:18, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, sorry about overlooking the other instances. I think it's taken care of now. --Al Ameer son (talk) 02:43, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lavalin

  • ... that after a massive expansion program in the 1980s, Lavalin's corporate bankers forced it to merge with its arch-rivals, SNC Group, becoming one of the largest civil engineering firms in the world?

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 16:53, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 18

Jeffrey D. Sadow

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:35, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dull hook ... that's basically a standard disclaimer, as the article makes clear. Daniel Case (talk) 15:32, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agree with Daniel Case, but I thought Wizardman's lead looked promising... until I visited the article and started checking sources. Sadow's spin on what the Post said is, well, spin. The reality of what one correspondent at the Post was saying was different, and I've now deleted the sentence from the article. If an editor has another hook idea, go ahead... hamiltonstone (talk) 02:24, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 17

Created by PHG (talk). Self nom at 03:25, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length is better, but hook fact is lacking in support. The article lead says the battle was "a result of the Franco-American alliance against Great Britain in the American Revolutionary War," but there is no citation to support that sentence, and the rest of the article does not say anything about its relationship with the war. --Orlady (talk) 03:53, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry, but I've been trying without success to verify the overall set of facts in this article. There's plenty of evidence of a naval skirmish off Cape Breton on 21 July 1781, involving the ships named in this article. However, most sources do not identify it as having occurred at or near Louisbourg (most say it happened somewhere off Cape Breton), it's not clear that it was a French victory, and its relationship to the American Revolutionary War is not clear. For example, this old travel guide generally supports the details of the article but simply calls it a "sharp naval battle" that was fought "off Sydney Harbor", this book generally agrees with the details in the article, but gives the location only as "off Cape Breton" and doesn't use a name for the event, this history clearly identifies the battle as connected with the American Revolution and gives extensive details, but does not give it a name and says it happened "off Spanish River," and this Canadian source indicates that "the French attack was hardly significant." The more I read, the less I'm convinced that this battle is properly called "the naval battle of Louisbourg," nor that it happened near Louisbourg, nor that it was a French naval victory over the Royal Navy. --Orlady (talk) 22:28, 27 July 2009 (UTC) PS - Also, is there a reliable source to indicate that the painting is of this battle, and not of an earlier action at Louisbourg? --Orlady (talk) 22:31, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • For what it's worth, here is a French reference to the painting on Chapitre.com (a French equivalent of Amazon.com) here, and also here on a site about Laperouse, and here. By the way, the Chapitre.com site describes the painting as "Combat naval à la hauteur de Louisbourg ( île du Cap-Breton au Canada), livré par Lapérouse..." ( = "Naval battle at the height of Louisbourg (island off Cape Breton in Canada), fought by Lapérouse..."), which should help lift your doubts on name, location and period. Nobody disputes it was a relatively small encounter. Thanks for taking time to research this. Cheers Phg (talk) 02:21, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • You can also find a full account of the battle in Galeries historiques du Palais de Versailles under the title "Combat naval en vue de Louisbourg" [11], which would give something like "Naval Battle off Louisbourg", the literal meaning being that Louisbourg was "visible" ("en vue de") from the site of the battle. I modified the title accordingly. Thanks for the discussion :-) Phg (talk) 06:08, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • A big part of the problem I have with this is that Louisbourg is not particularly close to Sydney (apparently called Spanish River at the time of this event), nor to the entrance to Sydney Harbor. Louisbourg is on the southeast coast of Cape Breton Island, while the entrance to Sydney Harbor is on the northeast coast. (For reference, Louisbourg is about 35 miles from Sydney by road, but much farther by sea.) If the battle occurred near the entrance to Sydney Harbor, there's no way that it would have been visible from Louisbourg.
Louisbourg had been an important French fortress. Since it is only accounts (and paintings) from French sources (not accounts from Canadian sources) that identify the location at "Louisbourg", I wonder if the name "Louisbourg" was used simply because that name was familiar to contemporary Frenchmen and the battle was near Cape Breton, which was also the site of Louisbourg. (I wondered if the French called all of Cape Breton "Louisbourg," but that's apparently not the case -- it's often called "Cap Breton".) --Orlady (talk) 13:56, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Let me see what I have... Cape Breton was called Ile Royale (also Isle Royale) by the French at that time, and the capital was Louisbourg. Captain Mullon, who participated to the battle says it occured east of Ile Royale, and in view of it [12]. The battle is properly described in English, as "Off Cape Breton" here. There may not be an established and widely publicized name in English for this encounter, but in the absence of such, since it is named "Combat naval en vue de Louisbourg", or "Combat naval a hauteur de Louisbourg" in French, I would indeed suggest we stick with "Naval battle off Louisbourg". Alternatively, "Naval battle off Cape Breton" would be fine with me as well, although it seems to me less legitimate than the latter. Cheers Phg (talk) 00:19, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dull as it might be, I think "Naval battle off Cape Breton", or perhaps "Naval battle off Cape Breton (1781)" might be the best choice. After reviewing the other names of battles in Naval operations in the American Revolutionary War and Category:Naval battles of the American Revolutionary War, I think the "off Cape Breton" name is pretty consistent with the names given to similar incidents in that war. From what I've read, this battle was very definitely a part of that war. Nova Scotia coal was important to the British war effort and was transported in protected convoys. The French attack is considered to have been successful, but its success was limited by the fact that the British ships escaped after nightfall. I've found several good sources to improve the article. This book has a nice discussion of the battle in the context of the war. --Orlady (talk) 02:56, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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