Template talk:Did you know
This page is for nominations to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page.
Instructions
Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination. Every approved hook will appear on the main page.
DYK criteria
How to list a new nomination
For a step-by-step guide to filling out the {{NewDYKnom}} template, see Template:NewDYKnomination/guide.
Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.
- Nom without image:
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- To include more than one new or expanded article in a single hook:
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- To add the article you reviewed:
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- To include more than one new or expanded article in a single hook:
Do not wikilink the article title, or the author username field; the template will wikilink them automatically. Do wikilink the article title in the hook field, however.
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An example of how to use the template is given below. Don't forget to fill out the rollover text, so people know what the image is of! Full details are at {{NewDYKnom}}
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{{subst:NewDYKnom | article = Example | status = new<!--(or) expanded (or) BLP expanded--> | hook = ... that this [[article]] is an '''[[example]]''' ''(pictured)''? | author = User1 | nominator = User2 | image = Example.png | rollover = An example image | alttext = Description of the image | comment = | reviewed = Article you reviewed | revieweddiff = diff link to the article review }}
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- If you have 5 or more self-nomination DYK credits, don't forget to review another editor's nomination, and link to the diff in your nomination.
How to review a nomination
Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the additional rules.
If you want to confirm that an article is ready to be placed on a later update, or note that there is an issue with the article or hook, please use the following symbols to point the issues out:
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{{subst:DYK?}} | Query | DYK eligibility requires that an issue be addressed. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
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{{subst:DYK?no}} | Maybe | DYK eligibility requires additional work. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
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{{subst:DYKno}} | No | Article is either completely ineligible, or else requires considerable work before becoming eligible |
Please consider using {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page, in case they do not notice that there is an issue.
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Nominations
Older nominations
Articles created/expanded on April 5
Health in Ghana
- ... that in Ghanian women's health, breast cancer is the leading malignacy and maternal mortality is 23.7%?
5x expanded by Sadads (talk), Als242 (talk). Self nom at 01:16, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- Note: Some of the content for this article was copied from other articles, but a vast majority of it was written today for the expansion of this article, and the subsequent need to expand the related articles. Also, this is well over 10x expansion, so I don't think that should be an issue, Sadads (talk) 01:16, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- Article review:Panama Creature
- The size checks out and the article is generally well-written and sourced. However, the specific fact cited in the hook about maternal mortality is not supported by a reference. — btphelps (talk) (contribs) 05:24, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- The other author updated that stat, I am thinking we should modify the hook, how about "... that in Ghanian women's health, breast cancer is the leading malignacy and HIV/AIDS affects 140,000 women?", 92.14.184.150 (talk) 20:54, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- effects->affects. -- Nczempin (talk) 10:16, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Fixed above, and that was me on the ip previously, Sadads (talk) 21:00, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- effects->affects. -- Nczempin (talk) 10:16, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- The other author updated that stat, I am thinking we should modify the hook, how about "... that in Ghanian women's health, breast cancer is the leading malignacy and HIV/AIDS affects 140,000 women?", 92.14.184.150 (talk) 20:54, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- 140,000 women is a lot, but compared to what? What per cent of the population is affected? What makes the facts notable or interesting? The phrasing is also awkward. — btphelps (talk) (contribs) 21:47, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- What should it be compared to? The fact in and of itself would be more than enough. If you have a better suggestion, I would be more than welcome for it. Sadads (talk) 21:20, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- The size checks out and the article is generally well-written and sourced. However, the specific fact cited in the hook about maternal mortality is not supported by a reference. — btphelps (talk) (contribs) 05:24, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- Dunno, total women in Ghana? or how about just a percentage figure? if 140K is 1% of the population, or if it's 20%, that's a measurable difference. Is breast cancer as the #1 malignancy unusual? I don't know. The hook is a device to motivate people to click through and read it. The hook as it is just doesn't do that for me, IMO. I don't have time to study the article. I'm sure you can find something more intriguing. — btphelps (talk) (contribs) 17:38, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Not sure whether this helps, but Ghana's total population is some 24m. If half are female, then 140k is about 1% of the female population. Schwede66 02:06, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Dunno, total women in Ghana? or how about just a percentage figure? if 140K is 1% of the population, or if it's 20%, that's a measurable difference. Is breast cancer as the #1 malignancy unusual? I don't know. The hook is a device to motivate people to click through and read it. The hook as it is just doesn't do that for me, IMO. I don't have time to study the article. I'm sure you can find something more intriguing. — btphelps (talk) (contribs) 17:38, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 6
Hotel Plaza Grande
- ... that the Hotel Plaza Grande was the first formal hotel to be established in Quito, Ecuador when it began as the Majestic Hotel in 1943?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Dream Focus (talk). Self nom at 12:33, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Date, length, ok, references accepted AGF. But article says "It was one of the first formal hotels in Quito", not "the first formal hotel". Also, it would be nice to add File:Hotel Plaza Grande2.jpg to the hook. --Soman (talk) 02:34, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Dream Focus got notified of the above problem, but he advised that Dr. Blofeld had done all the work. Nobody bothered, though, to draw Dr. Blofeld's attention to it. I've just done so. Schwede66 02:15, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Indianapolis Art Center
- ... that the Indianapolis Art Center was founded in 1934 as a Works Progress Administration project?
Created by Missvain (talk). Self nom at 04:19, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- The length is good and while DYKcheck gives the date as 5 April rather than 6 April, that doesn't really matter. However, we usually require the hook fact to be directly cited in the article, which it isn't here. This should be easy enough to fix. BigDom (talk) 15:45, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- I fixed the intro and updated it to show the fact :) Missvain (talk) 13:37, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Child sexual abuse in New York City religious institutions
- ... that two cases of child sexual abuse in New York City religious institutions have emerged in 2011 both centered in highly ranked NYC youth basketball programs and both having moved to a criminal stage due to long-ago actions which have been alleged to, or been admitted to, have happened in Massachusetts?
Created by Swliv (talk). Self nom at 05:19, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length of article OK, however hook is too long (306 characters instead of ~200) and rather convoluted, plus article title is not bolded.
Article history says nothing except: "correcting title of recent new article; edited from prev. article". What was the title of the recent new article and where is its edit history? When was it created?--GuillaumeTell 16:51, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length of article OK, however hook is too long (306 characters instead of ~200) and rather convoluted, plus article title is not bolded.
::: The previous page & its history was deleted by an admin (per an author's G7 request), as shown here. Shearonink (talk) 17:25, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- The length may be fine but In my opinion, that's not a really appropriate topic to use. I know Wikipedia is not censored but there was an issue with something similar in the past that stopped a Big Jock Knew DYK hook being promoted. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 16:59, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
:* Since the edit history has been hidden from view with this G7 action, how can editors tell when the article was actually created or when it was actually expanded? Shearonink (talk) 18:39, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
It looks as if it may be possible to undelete the previous article - see here - and then speedily delete it, maybe merging the edit history into the current one. Sounds like a lot of work. --GuillaumeTell 10:10, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- I requested a page history merger (WP:HISTMERGE), so the history of Child sexual abuse in New York City religious institutions now includes the history of the definct Child sexual abuse in the New York City religious institutions, which does verify that Swliv did indeed create the page on April 6, and that no other edits were made on the page. OCNative (talk) 01:19, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Guillaume and Shearonink, I hope you don't mind that I struck out your text that related to the page history since my history merger request has rendered the issue moot. Since it's now moot, I struck out the lines to try to reduce the complexity of this DYK request. OCNative (talk) 01:24, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- No problem as far as I'm concerned, and thanks for reuniting the page histories. --GuillaumeTell 08:23, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Guillaume and Shearonink, I hope you don't mind that I struck out your text that related to the page history since my history merger request has rendered the issue moot. Since it's now moot, I struck out the lines to try to reduce the complexity of this DYK request. OCNative (talk) 01:24, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
To start I have to say thanks for all the good attention. This is not an easy one, I know.
- Second, a shorter (195 char.) and I think better variant:
- ... that two cases of child sexual abuse in New York City religious institutions have emerged in 2011 centered in prominent NYC youth basketball programs and with legal venue in Massachusetts?
Swliv (talk) 01:30, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Third, the background on the creation.
It's only circumstantial, but I'll start by noting that the current article was created April 9, yet this self-nomination is under the 6th. That's because I started the nomination of the original article (all mine, no edits on it, started on the 6th, 27 page views on the 7th); then I realized that my typo, in effect, in the title was a real blemish; so I proceeded to create the new page (and, yes, with a good deal more editing of my original work, but nothing fundamental) and then empty out the old page, as I understood to be the appropriate way to (as happened) have an admin. eliminate it. (I didn't want it hanging around, think that's understandable.) Then I came back to the self-nom. but forgot to move it to the 9th. (And have worried about that a little, in the interim.) Anyway, the change in the title was simply that I'd left a "the" in in front of "New York City": Child sexual abuse in the New York City religious institutions. Obviously blemished, I think.More substantively, to trace my approach to the article just a little: The NY mag. article I read maybe two weeks ago. Then a primary subject of that article, interviewed in South Carolina and all, B. Oliva, pled guilty in Massachusetts. I only stumbled on the guilty plea because the page views of Christ The King Regional High School spiked. Once I saw that, I felt I had to try to pull together what I'd learned (feeling I was sort of playing catch up, by then, but having to do it anyway). I have to say at the moment I can't recall how the second case -- E. Lorch, still before the Mass. courts -- came to my view. If anyone's interested, I'll trace my path. (The coincidences between the two, which the DYK uses, were pretty striking to me, once I had found the latter one and worked it up.)
- Fourth, I'll say I've been following some of the widespread Wiki work on the general subject of child sexual abuse, and contributing from time to time, for quite a while. I could go into my history here in more detail if anyone wants, but for now I'll just go to the "censorship" comment above. I appreciate but haven't explored the references given. I may explore them and will respond if I do. Meanwhile, I'd say that I think Wikipedia has done a pretty good job on this general, difficult area and, on the other hand, there's much more that can and I hope will be done. I did marvel at the three "category bars" (I don't know what they're called; "hide"/ "show" at the bottom) which I imported into my article from probably Philadelphia. So much there. So much more that could be. I do think my current NYC contribution, also I'm sure not perfect, is nonetheless worthy of Wikipedia and, hence, of consideration for DYK. I'll leave it at that. Thanks again. Swliv (talk) 01:30, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Swliv, I hope you don't mind that I struck out the text that related to the page history since my history merger request has rendered the issue moot (and also verified your story completely). Since it's now moot, I struck out the lines to try to reduce the complexity of this DYK request. OCNative (talk) 01:19, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- I don't mind at all, of course. Thanks for clearing up that problem with my nomination. I've wondered about whether the nomination is languishing terminally, and in effect still do. But at least the package is cleaner, now. Thanks again. Swliv (talk) 22:03, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- After that moment of self-pity, I thought first about at least alerting earlier commenters to the history clarification but then was quickly reminded of the outstanding The C of E. comment. I've now reviewed the Big Jock Knew article and exchange over DYK back in March. First, given my interest in the general subject, I was drawn into the article and the DYK exchange. I liked learning about the controversy. On the other hand, while I'm still quite new to the DYK process, ultimately I think I agreed with the gist of comments which said it felt incomplete to have an article about a controversial chant without having an article about the controversy itself. As to the relevance of that article and decision to the decision on the current article -- including the expressed concern over censorship in Wikipedia -- I don't quite see the applicability. One of the two cases referenced in this DYK has proceeded through the courts to a guilty plea; the other is in the courts with an indictment handed down by a grand jury. The two other cases covered in the article are mostly documented elsewhere in Wikipedia but fit well within the new article's umbrella title. Yes, child sexual abuse is controversial, but it's well covered in Wikipedia (not perfectly, but pretty widely and deeply) and the two current cases have their unusual aspects as well as considerable commonality with the broad, grim (to allow myself an editorial comment) reality of many, many other cases, many documented in Wikipedia. I hope this helps in any continued consideration of this nomination. Swliv (talk) 23:27, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 7
Jacques Cambry
- ... that Breton writer Jacques Cambry (1749-1807) (pictured) published important works on Celtic history and monuments, and in 1805 founded the Celtic Academy?
Created/expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk) and Drmies (talk). Nominated by Drmies at 21:11, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Richard Deutsch
- Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 22:47, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Combretum glutinosum and Wildlife of the Gambia
- ... that Combretum glutinosum, found in The Gambia and the Sahel belt, is used to make yellow dye?
5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 10:07, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Note the Gambia wildlife is an expansion, Combretum glutinosum is new.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:08, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- NOTE: I have worked with the evil Dr. Blofeld occasionally, and my article above, Jacques Cambry, follows from one of his translations. I welcome a vetting of my approving these two articles, by any interested or suspicious editor. Drmies (talk) 21:31, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Can the image added now from the Wildlife of Gambia be incorporated in the above double hook?--Nvvchar. 06:22, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Richard Deutsch
- ... that American ceramics sculptor Richard Deutsch had a piece exhibited at the Smithsonian Institution in 1981, just three years after his first solo show?
Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 03:49, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Vladimir Velichko
Killer Kowalski Memorial Show
- ... that Ox Baker (pictured), a former tag team partner of Walter "Killer" Kowalski, was among the wrestling legends who spoke at the Killer Kowalski Memorial Show in 2008?
Created by 72.74.219.7 (talk). Nominated by 72.74.219.7 (talk) at 10:32, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. However, the hook fact about Baker being a former tag team partner of Killer Kowalski does not appear in the article. Yoninah (talk) 22:08, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Leslie Whetter
- ... that on the Australasian Antarctic Expedition, Leslie Whetter (pictured) was accused of incompetence, "chiefly through lack of determination in character and failing to do his level best"?
Created by Apterygial (talk). Self nom at 08:12, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- Looks good. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 09:05, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that on the Australasian Antarctic Expedition, Leslie Whetter discovered the first meteorite to be found in Antarctica? Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 09:07, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. ALT1 is a good hook, but I'm planning on expanding the Adélie Land meteorite article at some point and that hook is probably better saved until then. Besides which, Whetter, Bickerton and Hodgeman share credit for the discovery; it seems unfair to credit only Whetter. Apterygial talk 23:01, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good idea. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 21:12, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Dickshooter
- ... that Dickshooter was named for Dick Shooter?
- Reviewed: Hoko River Formation ([1])
Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 22:51, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date OK, Hook fact supported by the reference. Mjroots (talk) 13:32, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- This discussion does not belong here. There's an article talk page to discuss content issues.--Mbz1 (talk) 18:48, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- In light of the more cooperative edits this afternoon, including striking sections on the unrelated locales, I am withdrawing my objection to promotion of the article. Cbl62 (talk) 22:06, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
As the article is right now, it is only ~ 700 characters, well short of the required 1500. Canada Hky (talk) 23:23, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- It is fixed now.Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 23:40, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- The information about unrelated locales was just re-added. Its possible there just might not be enough material to hit the criteria, funny name or not. Canada Hky (talk) 03:36, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Note that the name and scope of the article have been changed since it was first created. It was originally an article about the community of Dickshooter, Idaho. It is now about how the name "Dickshooter" has been given to several places in Owyhee County, Idaho. Qrsdogg (talk) 04:46, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Are there any similar articles about a collection of features, none of which seem particularly notable on their own? If they are all notable, I'd say they should all have their own articles, and a dab page. If Dick Shooter is notable, I'd say the material about what was named after him could all be included on one page. As it is - this just seems like a lot of dedication to something for the sake of a funny name, and I don't think that's a great thing to feature. Canada Hky (talk) 15:02, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Well, I think what you're saying is that this is inadmissible to DYK due to WP:SYNTH? I think the sources for each location note that they were named after Mr. Shooter, and the current title works as well as "Places Named After Dick Shooter" would. Whether this is the greatest article or not, I think it technically meets all of the DYK criteria now. Qrsdogg (talk) 15:51, 9 April 2011 (UTC)comment edited at 18:09
- Well, "Dick Shooter" doesn't seem to be notable. A list of non-notable places named after him seems questionable as to whether it merits a Wikipedia entry. The fact that each place on its own does not have enough material on it to get 1500 characters isn't really a mark in its favour. I'm not questioning whether it is the greatest article, I'm questioning whether this listing of places is encyclopedic. Canada Hky (talk) 23:53, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Dick Shooter is not notable, the places named after him are, if for nothing else then at least for an unusual name, but Dickchooter creek listed in the National Wild and Scenic Rivers System, and Dickshooter ridge mentioned in the Act adopted by US congress.
- This discussion does not belong here. Notability is not one of DYK criteria. There are afd to discuss notability of the articles.--Mbz1 (talk) 14:12, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Well, "Dick Shooter" doesn't seem to be notable. A list of non-notable places named after him seems questionable as to whether it merits a Wikipedia entry. The fact that each place on its own does not have enough material on it to get 1500 characters isn't really a mark in its favour. I'm not questioning whether it is the greatest article, I'm questioning whether this listing of places is encyclopedic. Canada Hky (talk) 23:53, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Well, I think what you're saying is that this is inadmissible to DYK due to WP:SYNTH? I think the sources for each location note that they were named after Mr. Shooter, and the current title works as well as "Places Named After Dick Shooter" would. Whether this is the greatest article or not, I think it technically meets all of the DYK criteria now. Qrsdogg (talk) 15:51, 9 April 2011 (UTC)comment edited at 18:09
- Are there any similar articles about a collection of features, none of which seem particularly notable on their own? If they are all notable, I'd say they should all have their own articles, and a dab page. If Dick Shooter is notable, I'd say the material about what was named after him could all be included on one page. As it is - this just seems like a lot of dedication to something for the sake of a funny name, and I don't think that's a great thing to feature. Canada Hky (talk) 15:02, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Note that the name and scope of the article have been changed since it was first created. It was originally an article about the community of Dickshooter, Idaho. It is now about how the name "Dickshooter" has been given to several places in Owyhee County, Idaho. Qrsdogg (talk) 04:46, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- The information about unrelated locales was just re-added. Its possible there just might not be enough material to hit the criteria, funny name or not. Canada Hky (talk) 03:36, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Gare de la Bastille
- ... that at its peak, the Gare de la Bastille (pictured) in Paris handled over 1,000,000 roses a night?
5x expanded by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 19:53, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date checks out, and offline hook cite accepted in good faith. Appropriate image licensing. Good to go. Yves (talk) 05:26, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
Hoko River Formation
- ... that the Late Eocene marine Hoko River Formation is noted for producing crab, gastropod, cephalopod, and wood fossils?
Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 19:24, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go with the image.--Mbz1 (talk) 22:34, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Santorini (ship) for second time to check added references and approve hook.--Kevmin § 19:24, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed, offline links in good faith, especially as I cannot see why a good factual article like this would be made in bad! Benny Digital Speak Your Brains 15:20, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
All Saints Church, Waldershare
- ... that the monument to Sir Henry Furnese (pictured) in All Saints Church, Waldershare, Kent, fills a chapel, and has been described as "outstanding"?
- Reviewed: Railway accidents in Vietnam
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 16:25, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- All looks good to go. Article date and length check out, all references check out. Photo from Geograph ; licenced "Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0". -- Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 18:09, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Railway accidents in Vietnam
- ... that the Hai Van Pass (pictured) has been the scene of at least two of Vietnam's most serious railway accidents?
Created by Dragfyre (talk). Self nom at 14:46, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that, on average, one railway accident occurs in Vietnam every day?
- Reviewed: Pistol River
- Note: Created earlier in user space, moved to article space on Apr 7.
- I like this well-referenced article, but am not happy about the hooks. The original hook is not explicitly stated in the article, and has to be deduced, so, as it stands, it is not OK. The source for ALT1 states "The conductor noted that usually, an accident occurs every day", which is not what the article or the hook says. If the article were to be amended to say what the source says, and the hook to reflect that, it would be OK. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 16:16, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- OK—I've stated the original hook in the "List of notable accidents" section, and referenced it properly. As for the ALT1 hook, I disagree that the source differs from the article and the hook. Toyoda's report refers to the conductor, but in the article, this is quoted as ...researcher A. Maria Toyoda noted "There are numerous safety issues with level crossings, residences right up against the tracks, and other areas of activity that are dangerously close ... People will cross the tracks at great risk, dodging in front of the train. ...usually, an accident occurs every day. In other words, the article says she noted that an accident occurs every day, which is correct, although to be precise, she noted it in her report because the conductor noted it to her first. So in essence, she noted that the conductor noted it. I didn't cite the conductor in this way because I felt it would detract from the readability; besides which, he wasn't directly quoted. Anyway, having said that, and still disagreeing (and preferring the original hook anyway), if you think ALT1 is worth using and still needs further precision, I'd accept to make further changes. --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 17:05, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Fine, let's work on the original hook. Maybe the problem is the word "deadliest". According to the list, accidents in the pass killed c100 and 11 people; others killed 14 and 13. So how about:
- ALT2 ... that the Hai Van Pass (pictured) has been the scene of at least two of Vietnam's most serious railway accidents? --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 17:24, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- You're right, that works better. I've made this change to the original hook, and I've amended the phrasing in the article too. Anything else? --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 18:12, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- for ALT2 (original hook has been amended to this).--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:52, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
Museum label
- ... that the oldest known museum labels (sample pictured) are from circa 1900 BCE describing 2000 BCE objects?
Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 13:22, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length and source check out. Benea (talk) 20:17, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Piper's Opera House
- ... that Piper's Opera House (pictured) was used by boxing champion Gentleman Jim Corbett as a training facility in preparation for his title bout with Bob Fitzsimmons?
- ALT1:... that in 1940 Errol Flynn auctioned off historic Piper's Opera House (pictured) memorabilia during a live NBC broadcast?
- Reviewed: 3rd Arizona Territorial Legislature and Old Church of St Mary the Virgin, Preston Candover
Created by Maile66 (talk). Self nom at 09:30, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- Both hooks are good. Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 10:46, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 8
Hierapolis sawmill
- ... that the Roman sawmill at Hierapolis, dated to the 3rd century AD, is the earliest known machine to incorporate a crank and connecting rod mechanism?
5x expanded by Gun Powder Ma (talk). Self nom at 21:16, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- First off, I see only 1562B of prose , while all earlier revisions from nearly a year ago have the same prosesize. Also, it was not expanded within 5 days of said expansion, which I don't even see. –MuZemike 06:38, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Sensational Sherri Memorial Cup Tournament, Shinya Hashimoto Memorial Legacy Cup Tournament, Hustle King Memorial Six Man Tag Team Tournament
- ... that professional wrestling events held to honor deceased competitors have included the Sensational Sherri Memorial Cup Tournament, the Shinya Hashimoto Memorial Legacy Cup Tournament, and the Hustle King Memorial Six Man Tag Team Tournament?
Created by 72.74.224.37 (talk), 72.74.202.170 (talk). Nominated by GaryColemanFan (talk) at 22:18, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Ivar Ekeland
- ... that, by writing about chaos theory and fractals (like the Julia set, pictured), mathematician Ivar Ekeland helped to inspire Jurassic Park by Michael Crichton and Steven Spielberg?
- Reviewed: Polyfluorene ([2])
- Comment: Ekeland wrote about the Feigenbaum bifurcation etc., but not the Julia set (whose animation would compel DYK attention).
- ... that, by writing about chaos theory and fractals (pictured), mathematician Ivar Ekeland helped to inspire Jurassic Park by Michael Crichton and Steven Spielberg?
5x expanded by Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk). Self nom at 10:55, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- This seems a bit dubious. The basic research and explanation of the Feigenbaum cascade was done long before 1990; and as semi-mathematical popularisers of chaos people like James Gleick or Ian Stewart were far more significant. Frankly, this hook seems a bit much to hang on seven pages of a popular book treating something already well understood and well popularised. Jheald (talk) 15:30, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- @Jheald, perhaps you read the article on Ivar Ekeland too quickly? I quote from the article and its in-line page references (with on-line links):
- Ekeland's popular books have also influenced an internationally best-selling novel and its film adaptation. Ekeland's books provided mathematical inspiration for Jurassic Park by Michael Crichton.[1] When Crichton's novel was adapted for the film Jurassic Park, by Steven Spielberg, Ekeland was consulted by the actor Jeff Goldblum as he prepared to play a mathematician specializing in chaos theory.[2]
- ^ Crichton (1997, p. 400): Crichton, Michael (1997). Jurassic Park. Ballantine Books.
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- Nobody is claiming that Ekeland's book was more important than Gleick's as advertising for chaos science. (Ekeland's notability is established for his other accomplishements, primarily.)
- Please accept Chrichton's written word about its influence, especially after you verify the passage yourself. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (Discussion) 21:32, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Seems to me that the article should make clearer that Ekeland was one of the sources of Chrichton's interest in chaos theory -- at the moment the article seems to be significantly unbalanced by the prominence given to this factoid, complete with the picture of Jeff Goldblum; and the implication of the article, at least to a casual reader, is that Ekeland was the decisive influence on Chrichton. Instead, the truth according to our article on the film's characters, is that both Ekeland and Gleick were noted by Crichton; that the Goldblum character's name "Ian Malcolm" was a conscious reference to Ian Stewart; and the look of the Goldblum character was apparently inspired by Heinz-Otto Peitgen.
- The hook is actually fair enough. But the article needs to make clearer that Ekeland was at best only one of several mathematician role-models who inspired Goldblum's character in the movie, before this should be accepted as a DYK; and I still think this factoid is currently getting WP:UNDUE prominence there. Jheald (talk) 13:48, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- @Jheald, you are misreading the sentence, and inserting "the" without warrant. What policy are you referring to, when you claim that this DYK should be blocked?
- The hook is interesting and will attract a lot of persons interested in Jurassic Park. The images allow DYK readers to quickly verify and find more information about Ekeland and Jurassic Park. The article on Ivar Ekeland is about him. I provided the sourced material on the Jurassic Park character played by Goldblum, which you describe; the details of other influences on Crichton belong there, not in the Ekeland article. Expanding the Jurassic Park material further, as you suggest, would violate the WP:Undue policy. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (Discussion) 16:43, 17 April 2011 (UTC) Kiefer.Wolfowitz (Discussion) 15:41, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- The hook seems fair enough to me: it doesn't say that Ekeland invented fractals or chaos, only that his writings on the subject inspired something else, and that is well documented in the article. There are still two easily fixed issues, though: (1) the small thumbnail image will not be animated (resizing images breaks animation) so the hook shouldn't say that it is, and (2) it would be good to bluelink more of the terms in the hook. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:33, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, David. (I asked David for input.) I revised the hook(s) as suggested. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (Discussion) 19:09, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- As I wrote above, the hook in its present state may be fair enough; the article isn't. The article currently gives the substantially misleading impression that Ekeland was the principal basis for the inclusion of chaos theory in Jurassic Park; and for the character of Ian Malcolm. That isn't true. An article that would mislead people in that way should not be linked to from the front page.
- If you want to correct the article, to make much clearer than Ekeland was only one source amongst many that Crichton used, then we can reconsider. But until those corrections are made, the article is not fit to be linked to as a DYK. Jheald (talk) 22:08, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry but your repeated and insistent comments indicate a difficulty with the English article "the" rather than a violation of DYK policy. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (Discussion) 22:29, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- As per a libel trial, what matters is not just what you have written, and whether that may technically be correct; but rather more importantly, how what you have written is likely to be interpreted. It is quite true, you haven't written in the Ekeland article explicitly that Ekeland was the principal basis for chaos and for the character of Malcolm. But as Ekeland is the only such basis that you do mention in the article, that is likely nevertheless to be the conclusion that readers infer from it. That conclusion is a false conclusion, so readers would be misled. The DYK section on the front page should not be used to advertise articles that are likely to result in readers being misled. Jheald (talk) 23:04, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Let us see whether anybody agrees with you .... Kiefer.Wolfowitz (Discussion) 23:14, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- As per a libel trial, what matters is not just what you have written, and whether that may technically be correct; but rather more importantly, how what you have written is likely to be interpreted. It is quite true, you haven't written in the Ekeland article explicitly that Ekeland was the principal basis for chaos and for the character of Malcolm. But as Ekeland is the only such basis that you do mention in the article, that is likely nevertheless to be the conclusion that readers infer from it. That conclusion is a false conclusion, so readers would be misled. The DYK section on the front page should not be used to advertise articles that are likely to result in readers being misled. Jheald (talk) 23:04, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry but your repeated and insistent comments indicate a difficulty with the English article "the" rather than a violation of DYK policy. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (Discussion) 22:29, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, David. (I asked David for input.) I revised the hook(s) as suggested. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (Discussion) 19:09, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Everybody Was in the French Resistance...Now!
- ... that "G.I.R.L.F.R.E.N (You Know I've Got A)" by Everybody Was in the French Resistance...Now! is a reply to Avril Lavigne's song, "Girlfriend"?
Created by Bennydigital (talk). Self nom at 15:10, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
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- Date, length and hook ok. Lampman (talk) 11:48, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Polyfluorene
- ... that molecules that chemists isolated from coal tar in 1883 have been made into a polymer (called polyfluorene) that powers solar cells?
5x expanded by Aromaticmoleculessmell (talk), Polymersgrpmem (talk). Nominated by Klsyking (talk) at 14:33, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Article created in sandbox and then moved to user space on April 8, with merged history documenting sandbox editing. On-line subscription content accepted in good faith. I copy-edited the hook, for specificity (1883 versus "over 100 years ago") and modality ("powers" versus "can power", because experiments have been performed that establish fact). Kiefer.Wolfowitz (Discussion) 11:14, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Verified on-line references (only for DYK claim) at my university , today. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (Discussion) 22:21, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
High refractive index polymers
- ... that the element, sulfur, can help high refractive index polymers bend light?
Created by Touchless (talk), Cddwumich (talk). Nominated by Klsyking (talk) at 14:21, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Looks good and the hook is correct. — Legolas (talk2me) 10:31, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Landysh
- ... that Landysh, a Russian vessel built with funding from Japan to decommission nuclear submarines, was requested by Japan to assist in the aftermath of the Fukushima I nuclear accidents?
Created by Silverchemist (talk). Self nom at 23:04, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Hook, length and date all check out. Smallbones (talk) 03:04, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Radix natalensis
- ... that Radix natalensis (shell pictured) is a widespread freshwater snail in Africa?
Created by Snek01 (talk). Self nom at 17:49, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Acropyga acutiventris and Xenococcus annandalei. [3].
- ALT1: that Radix natalensis (shell pictured) is a widespread freshwater snail in Africa transferring fluke Fasciola gigantica?
Choose a hook of your choice. --Snek01 (talk) 17:51, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date and length satisfactory. What about this as an alternate hook? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:03, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2
... that Radix natalensis (shell pictured), a freshwater snail found in Africa, is a major intermediate host of liver flukes that cause fasciolosis?- ALT2 is not precise. It is a major vector in Africa for Fasciola gigantica only. Fasciola hepatica is transferred mainly by Galba truncatula and Pseudosuccinea columella in Africa. --Snek01 (talk) 10:07, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Fort Center
- ... that Fort Center is an archaeological site where maize may have been cultivated centuries before it appeared anywhere else in Florida?
(UTC) Created by Donald Albury (talk). Self nom at 01:27, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length and date check. WP:AGF for offline ref.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:48, 18 April 2011
- ALT1 ... that the Fort Center site came to the attention of archaeologists after a carved wooden bird (pictured) was found in a pond?
- ref confirmed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:52, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Moved from user sandbox on 8 April 2011.
- Reviewed Central Organising Committee, Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) Party Unity here
- Does anybody know how to fix this image - maybe better reshoot it? Materialscientist (talk) 06:33, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- The carving is behind glass. Photos without a flash show reflections from windows and other display cases. The museum doesn't allow tripods or monopods, so I doubt they would allow me to set up a screen to block reflections from the glass. It may be possible to get permission to take a picture of the carving outside the display cabinet, but it would take time to get permission for a date I could be there. There are better images on the web, but they aren't licensed for free use. -- Donald Albury 14:17, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Zugspitze
- ... that the first recorded ascent of Germany's highest mountain, the Zugspitze (pictured) on 27 August 1820, was led by a Bavarian Army officer, Josef Naus?
5x expanded by Bermicourt (talk). Self nom at 15:49, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- I'm going to say that's good to go. A massive authoritative expansion from c. 4900 to a whopping c. 34,000 characters, dated correctly. All sourced with clarifying notes. Awesome. Want to have a go at Mount Hermon? Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 03:40, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
The Redmond Spokesman
- ... that after The Redmond Spokesman won University of Oregon School of Journalism's Hal E. Hoss trophy for the best weekly newspaper in Oregon three times in five years the award was retired and presented to the Spokesman's publisher?
Created by Orygun (talk). Self nom at 18:22, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- The article length and ref are fine, but the hook is too long at 231 characters (should be <200). BigDom (talk) 11:20, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- How about: ... that after The Redmond Spokesman won University of Oregon's Hal E. Hoss trophy for the best weekly newspaper in Oregon 3 times in 5 years the award was retired and given to the Spokesman's publisher?
Michoacán Market, Mexico City
- ... that the addition of stencil art to the Michoacán Market in Mexico City increased sales?
Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 14:44, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- All checks out.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:56, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed John Bennett FennThelmadatter (talk) 14:59, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Air India One
- ... that Air India One is the call sign of any aircraft carrying either the Prime Minister of India or the President of India?
Created by Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते. Self nom at 10:22, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
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- Ref, length, and date look good Ruby2010 comment! 06:12, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
David Schuman
- ... that Oregon Court of Appeals Judge David Schuman finished second in the North American speed skating finals in the 220-yard competition at the age of 17?
- Reviewed: Rehabilitation Policy ([5])
Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 08:49, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:45, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
C.C. Bridgewater
... that because he was in a medically induced coma for five weeks after a heart attack, Washington Court of Appeals Judge C.C. Bridgewater missed the deadline to file for re-election to the court?
ALT1:... that Washington Court of Appeals Judge C.C. Bridgewater missed the deadline to file for re-election to the court because he was in a medically induced coma for five weeks after a heart attack?- Reviewed: Measuring rod, Tablet of Shamash ([6])
Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 08:49, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook ref all verified. I like the way you placed the emphasis in ALT1; just wondering if this would be better:
ALT2: ... that C.C. Bridgewater's career on the Washington Court of Appeals came to an end when he missed the deadline to file for re-election – since he was in a medically induced coma after a heart attack?Yoninah (talk) 19:58, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- I counted 201 characters in ALT2, but I like how you included the implications of his inability to file for re-election and the suspense provided by the dash, so how about this 198-character version:
- ALT3:... that Judge C.C. Bridgewater's career on the Washington Court of Appeals ended when he missed the deadline to file for re-election – since he was in a medically induced coma after a heart attack? OCNative (talk) 23:59, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Great, thanks! ALT3 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:15, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Open Your Eyes (Yes song)
- ... that after Rick Wakeman left Yes without a full-time keyboardist in 1997, the band borrowed Toto keyboardist Steve Porcaro for their final rock radio hit "Open Your Eyes"?
- Reviewed Landa de Matamoros. 28bytes (talk) 03:57, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 03:48, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Dates and expansion length both good. Available online sources look good and do not contradict any information supported by offline sources. AGF of offline portion of sourcing. --Allen3 talk 17:01, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Landa de Matamoros
- ... that the plant species of the Landa de Matamoros municipality in Querétaro represents about 25% of the plant diversity of Mexico?
5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 01:29, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Jens Joneleit Thelmadatter (talk) 01:35, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Expansion ratio and date look good, Spanish-language hook reference accepted on good faith, review confirmed. Good to go. 28bytes (talk) 03:55, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Reinhold von Werner
- ... that the German Chancellor Otto von Bismarck sought the imprisonment of Admiral Reinhold Werner, who nearly precipitated a war between Spanish rebels and Germany in 1873?
5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 20:24, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
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- Great article Parsec (or, if you prefer, Nate). I made it a start so as it would not be a stub on the main page. Buggie111 (talk) 00:25, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Myrtis
- ... that Ancient Greek girl Myrtis (pictured) was made a friend of the Millennium Development Goals by the United Nations Regional Information Centre?
Created by Brandmeister (talk). Self nom at 19:29, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- Created from redirect, hook is sourced. Interesting article, though "Creating new genus with Myrtis fanny in it" in history is one of the most amusing bot summaries ever! Chipmunkdavis (talk) 02:30, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Blue Labour
- ... that Blue Labour is a socially conservative trend in the British Labour Party that argues for Flag, Faith and Family?
5x expanded by Riversider2008 (talk). Self nom at 15:23, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- A good article overall, but you'll have to use the cite web template. Even so, this article is good to go. --TIAYN (talk) 19:52, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
4th Arizona Territorial Legislature
- ... that several members of the 4th Arizona Territorial Legislature were accused of accepting bribes after the session created the territory's first "permanent" capital?
- Reviewed: George W. Milias ([7])
- Comment: "Permanent" is quoted because the article's offline sources use the quotes and because Arizona's capital was moved to two other locations during the 25 years immediately following the session.
Created by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 13:49, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- - article size and creation date check out, dead-tree source accepted per AGF, should be ready to go. Nice work. Parsecboy (talk) 20:37, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
Climate of the Falkland Islands
- ... that due to the long sunlight hours of the climate of the Falkland Islands the government decided to keep daylight saving time in winter?
Created by Chipmunkdavis (talk). Self nom at 02:21, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Myrtis Chipmunkdavis (talk) 02:34, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date and hook checked. Bejinhan talks 05:40, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Jorf Lasfar
- ... that at the time when the Swedish-Swiss company ABB Group and the American company CMS Energy invested $1.5 billion into the construction of a power plant at the Moroccan port of Jorf Lasfar, it was the single largest foreign investment ever to have been financed in that country?
5x expanded by Deyyaz (talk). Self nom at 21:14, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed : A Night of Neglect
- Hook is much too long
- ... that when the ABB Group and CMS Energy invested $1.5 billion in the Moroccan port of Jorf Lasfar, it was the largest foreign investment? Is that still correct? 95.151.66.216 (talk) 15:46, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- I like the first part for its conciseness, but I think the second part is a little vague. The reason why the submission was so long was because I was trying to figure out a way to say what I wanted to say clearly and accurately. By just saying that "it was the largest foreign investment", it kind of feels clipped.
- How about? ALT 2 ... that when the ABB Group and CMS Energy invested $1.5 billion into projects at the Moroccan port of Jorf Lasfar, it was the largest foreign investment to have occurred in that country? Deyyaz [ Talk | Contribs ] 17:44, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 9
William Hunt Painter
- ... that Fumaria bastardii has only been found twice in Britain and both times by the Rev. W.H.Painter?
Created by Parkywiki (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 17:39, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Notability problems, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William Hunt Painter. Sandstein 17:49, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the conditional approval for this article. I'm optimistic that it will get through AfD given the 1800 references to his book including a recent citation in an American botany book. I believe it will take a week to go through that process. Victuallers (talk) 15:01, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
The King of Rome
- ... that The King of Rome's skin (pictured) is preserved in Derby Museum because he survived where other pigeons died?
Created by Pigsonthewing (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 17:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed Charles Inglis Victuallers (talk) 17:12, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Seems to be good. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 12:39, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Livens Large Gallery Flame Projector
- ... that the Livens Large Gallery Flame Projectors were large (17 meters long) fixed flamethrowers used possibly successfully in the Mametz sector of the Battle of the Somme and that the remains of one has recently been rediscovered?
Created by Msrasnw (talk). Self nom at 11:57, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length and hook all check out. --TriiipleThreat (talk) 12:37, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Groupe Bogolan Kasobané
- ... that Groupe Bogolan Kasobané of Mali is a pioneer in the bogolan fine arts movement?
Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 04:49, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Perkiomen Bridge
- All seems to check out. Size, hook, ref. My main concern would be whether the hook is 'hooky' enough, i.e., if you don't know what bogolan fine arts are, are you going to be drawn in? --jjron (talk) 11:04, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Foresight Nanotech Institute Feynman Prize
- ... that the Foresight Institute's Feynman Prize in Nanotechnology includes both annual prizes and a $250,000 Grand Prize modeled after historical technological prizes such as the Longitude prize?
5x expanded by Antony-22 (talk). Self nom at 19:02, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Note: This is mostly a list article, the prose portion was expanded from ~300 bytes to ~1650 bytes.
Reviewed Spirit Fruit Society
- Expansion, date and hook refs verified. —Bruce1eetalk 14:32, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Antoine Germain Labarraque
- ... that chemist Antoine Labarraque helped to banish nasty niffs from the streets and buildings of 19th century Paris?
Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 13:42, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT 1: "that chemist Antoine Labarraque found a solution – literally – for the bad smell coming from Paris's Latin Quarter?" Shadygrove2007 (talk) 13:42, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT 2: "that chemist Antoine Labarraque won a prize of 1,500 francs after he found a way to remove the appalling smell from Paris's gut-processing factories?" Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:22, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, and references check out. I fixed a typo in one of the references (the page number for Knight should have been 427, not 429). Among the hooks you list I prefer ALT2 because of its greater specificity, but they're all ok. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:29, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
2012 United States federal budget
- ... that Democratic and Republican plans for the 2012 United States federal budget both focus on deficit reduction, but differ in their changes to taxation, entitlement programs, and research funding?
5x expanded by Antony-22 (talk). Self nom at 01:50, 10 April 2011 (UTC) Reviewed Kommilitonen!
- The expansion was recent and more than 5 times, so that's good. The article is somewhat thinly sourced, but meets the 'at least one ref per paragraph' requirement. There are a couple of 'this section is empty' tags on the page, and that gives the distinct impression of the article being incomplete, which violates additional rule D7. You'll have to deal with that. Also, the sentence(s) that states the hook fact needs to be directly referenced and you'll have to do that, too. Once the article appears no longer incomplete, please remove the stub tags and the stub assessment. Schwede66 03:06, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- I will fill out or remove the empty sections within the next day or so. As for the sourcing, all the information in each paragraph comes from the cited source for that paragraph. I could have put the same ref after every sentence in each paragraph, but it's generally understood that if a paragraph contains a ref only at its end, that ref applies to everything in the paragraph. The hook is comparing facts from two different refs (but published in the same newspaper, written by the same author), but I see this as akin to the rule that routine mathematical calculations are not original research. Essentially, if one ref says "the Democratic budget increases X funding" and the other says "the Republican budget decreases X funding", then it's an routine, uncontroversial statement to say that the funding plans are different. Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 07:43, 16 April 2011 (UTC) Update: I have dealt with the empty sections. Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 17:29, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Sounding Point
- ... that jazz guitarist Julian Lage recorded his Grammy-nominated debut album Sounding Point when he was only 20 years old?
- Reviewed: Carlton Hotel, Christchurch ([8])
Created by J04n (talk). Self nom at 00:39, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook ref all verified. Tweaked hook and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:39, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Michelle Linn-Gust
- ... that author Michelle Linn-Gust (pictured) released her first book Do They Have Bad Days in Heaven? Surviving the Suicide Loss of a Sibling which was about her experiences from her sister's suicide?
--BabbaQ (talk) 23:29, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Michelle Linn-Gust's first book in 2001 gave advice on surviving the suicide of siblings?
- ALT2: ... that Michelle Linn-Gust's first book in 2001 was about surviving her sister's suicide at age 17?
- Comment: Article needs additional reliable, independent sources to establish eligibility of subject and article for notability; note lack of independent reviews of books in newspapers/magazines. Please note appropriate format for inline citations of sources.
DYK eligibility requires additional work. Parkwells (talk) 20:55, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Carlton Hotel, Christchurch
- ... that the Carlton Hotel (pictured) sold New Zealand's first beer on tap?
- Reviewed: Pinal de Amoles (diff)
- Comment: Another Category II heritage building gone.
Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 21:10, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Article date, length, and ref all check out. J04n(talk page) 00:25, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Bruiser Brody Memorial Cup
... that one of the venues used during the Bruiser Brody Memorial Cup Tour, held over 15 years after the 1988 murder of Bruiser Brody, took place at the same stadium Brody was mudered and featured his assailant, Invader I, on the card?
- ALT1:
... that the Bruiser Brody Memorial Cup, held by the World Wrestling Council, took place over 15 years after the murder of Bruiser Brody at a WWC show in 1988? - ALT2:
... that the Bruiser Brody Memorial Cup, held by the World Wrestling Council 15 years after the murder of Bruiser Brody at a WWC show in 1988, was the second Brody memorial show held in Puerto Rico?
- ALT1:
Created by 72.74.224.37 (talk). Self nom at 19:59, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
to the original hook. All seems to check out. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 10:33, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Wait a miniute, The original hook is 35 characters over the limit. I think it probibly is the best one so it would be great if the characters could be cut down to be eligable. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 10:40, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- I believe I've crammed the original hook into 200 characters:
- ALT3:... that 17 years after Bruiser Brody's 1988 murder, the stadium where he was killed was one of the venues of the Bruiser Brody Memorial Cup Tour, which featured his assailant, Invader I, on the card? OCNative (talk) 15:57, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook ref verified. ALT3 looks good and is good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:45, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Dagens man
- ... that Dagens man is a Swedish dating show on TV4 Plus hosted by model and actress Carolina Gynning (pictured)?
self nom --BabbaQ (talk) 19:43, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed:Bhikshatana.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:53, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Ready for DYK.--VictoriousGastain (talk) 21:54, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- While it looks like it's a "dejtingprogram" in Swedish, I changed the English in the hook from "datingshow" to "dating show". But if that's some new compound word that I haven't heard of, or if it's somehow desired stylistically, go ahead and change it back. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:26, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Reipas
- ... that the record-setting Finnhorse trotter Reipas was originally a thin, weak foal of unknown parentage?
- Reviewed: Disorders of consciousness ([9])
- Comment: No self nom DYKs through yet but reviewed to learn uvu
Created by Pitke (talk). Self nom at 15:05, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length OK. Offline, foreign-language refs AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:51, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Cathy Cochran
... that Republican Texas Court of Criminal Appeals Judge Cathy Cochran Herasimchuk married a fellow Stanford student, taking his surname when they married in 1966, but he took her surname in 2001?
- Reviewed: Post-detection policies ([10])
Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 08:21, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook ref verified. How about saying it a little punchier, like:
- ALT1:
... that Texas Judge Cathy Cochran took her husband's surname when they married in 1966, and he took her maiden name in 2001?Yoninah (talk) 20:11, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Considering stereotypes about Texas Republicans (unlike in other states, Texas judges are partisan elected offices, by the way), I'd hate to leave that piece of information out, so how about:
- ALT2: ... that Republican Texas high court Judge Cathy Cochran took her husband's surname when they married in 1966, and he took her maiden name in 2001? OCNative (talk) 00:26, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- No problem. ALT2 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 14:36, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Bhikshatana
- ... that Tamil devotional poetry describes how clothes of married women slipped off by the sight of the Hindu god Shiva as a naked beggar?
Created by Redtigerxyz (talk). Self nom at 11:12, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Maud Gage Baum reviewed. --Redtigerxyz Talk 11:20, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Everything checks out. DYK ready.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:51, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Shouldn't that be "slipped off at the sight of the Hindu god Shiva"? Richerman (talk) 00:54, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Courtney Vandersloot
- ... that Courtney Vandersloot (pictured) is the first NCAA Division I basketball player, male or female, with 2,000 points and 1,000 assists in a career?
- ALT1:... that when Courtney Vandersloot (pictured) first called John Stockton for basketball advice, she was so hesitant to talk with him that she hoped to reach his voice mail?
- Reviewed: 2011 European Under-18 Rugby Union Championship
Created by Dale Arnett (talk). Self nom at 07:56, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- DYK ready. Everything checks out. For original hook to be used.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:57, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Mote Park (cricket ground)
- ... that Mote Park stopped being used by Kent after a green wicket cost them 8 County Championship points due to a low scoring cricket game that ended in under 2 days?
Created by The C of E (talk). Self nom at 07:07, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Date Length and ref verified. Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 10:35, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Dwight B. Heard
- ... that Dwight B. Heard is credited with the expansion of Arizona's cotton industry after becoming president of the Arizona Cotton Association?
- Reviewed: Reinhold Werner Reviewed
- Comment: Hook is 152 with spaces, 130 without.
Created by Buggie111 (talk). Self nom at 00:25, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- reference says he is credited with making industry more competitive not that he is credited with its expansion. Richerman (talk) 01:21, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Economy growth does not equal expansion? What do you suggest? Buggie111 (talk) 01:26, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, have I missed something about economy growth in the source? If not I would just say he's credited with making industry more competitive internationally. Richerman (talk) 01:40, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, the source. Yes, I see your point. How 'bout this? Buggie111 (talk) 02:15, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, have I missed something about economy growth in the source? If not I would just say he's credited with making industry more competitive internationally. Richerman (talk) 01:40, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Economy growth does not equal expansion? What do you suggest? Buggie111 (talk) 01:26, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- ... that Dwight B. Heard is credited with making Arizona's cotton industry more competitive after becoming president of the Arizona Cotton Association?
- OK, change the line in article to that too and it's good to go Richerman (talk) 09:33, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
You Debt Your Life
- ... that "You Debt Your Life" is the second American Dad! episode to feature the story of how Roger the Alien saved Stan Smith at Area 51, the first being first season's episode "Rodger Codger"?
5x expanded by User:89119e (talk). Self nom at 06:24, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Rushbearing
- that the ancient custom of rushbearing (pictured) has died out in most of Britain but is still celebrated in parts of the northwest of England?
- ALT1 ... that the ancient British custom of rushbearing (pictured) was opposed by the Puritans, probably for encouraging intemperance, but deemed acceptable by King James I in his Declaration of Sports?
5x expanded by Richerman (talk). Self nom at 01:13, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Dwight B. Heard
- I prefer ALT1, I think it is more interesting. Looks good. (The original hook I did not check.) Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 09:08, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Aha! Bible thumpers and the demon drink - always good combination. I just thought the hook may be a bit long, but if not I'm happy to go with that. Richerman (talk) 18:15, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Seven Wonders of Colombia
- ... that the Salt Cathedral of Zipaquirá got the most votes on a competition choosing the Seven Wonders of Colombia?
created by Alwhorl (talk). Self nom at 20:02, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Article has only 231 characters in prose (1500 required). Please expand it. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 08:56, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 10
Celts in Transylvania
5x expanded by Boldwin (talk). Nominated by Codrinb (talk) at 16:21, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, 5x expansion and hook check, but I have to question the title of the article. Transylvania is part of Dacia and most of the article is about the Celtic occupation of Dacia. I think the article should be called "Celts in Dacia" for accuracy but use the Transylvania line for the hook.Thelmadatter (talk) 18:46, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- This is a good question. Yet, the ancient Dacia’s area was larger than the territory of the modern-day Transylvania. The books where I took information from were specifying Transylvania. The article is including information of the Celtic sites, inscriptions, artifacts from the area of Transylvania. If we change the name, we have to include Celtic and Celto-Dacian sites from Southern Poland, East Hungary, Southwestern Slovakia, and other sites from South and East Romania. It would be probably better, to clarify better this demarcation Dacia vs Transylvania, in the article's sections. Do you have any suggestion? Boldwin (talk) 19:48, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- A few sections were updated and some clarifications were added to show the focus on the part of Dacia that is today Transylvania. Also, although there were Celts in other parts of Dacia (and in what Romans and Greeks called Moesia and Scythia Minor), the Celtic presence is far more substantial in Transylvania. Indeed, the scope of the article could be extended, but I think that should be done outside the DYK since there is a lot more to be covered in such a case. If a Celts in Dacia article will get started, generic parts of Celts in Transylvania could be moved there at that time. --Codrin.B (talk) 20:15, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Mancusi v. DeForte
- ... that the jury deliberated for 28 hours without sleep in the trial that led to the U.S. Supreme Court's Mancusi v. DeForte decision establishing a reasonable expectation of privacy at work?
Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 16:07, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date and length check out, offline references accepted in good faith.. However the hook seems to be a bit disjointed. Might I suggest ALT1. --TriiipleThreat (talk) 12:36, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that during the U.S. Supreme Court case Mancusi v. DeForte, which established a reasonable expectation of privacy at work, the jury deliberated for 28 hours without sleep?
- The original hook is a bit clumsy, but it's very much superior to ALT1, which implies that the 28-hour jury deliberation was at SCOTUS level (both wrong and impossible). Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 08:18, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- While I'm sure that some past Supreme Court clerks might find a way of arguing you're not entirely right about that :-), thank you for recognizing that the clunky wording was the only way to make clear that the jury's all-nighter took place at the trial level. Daniel Case (talk) 15:20, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps "decision, which established" rather than "decision establishing" could make it slightly better. Otherwise I feel out of breath when I come to the end! Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 00:04, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- While I'm sure that some past Supreme Court clerks might find a way of arguing you're not entirely right about that :-), thank you for recognizing that the clunky wording was the only way to make clear that the jury's all-nighter took place at the trial level. Daniel Case (talk) 15:20, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Henry Conybeare
- ... that Henry Conybeare, a civil engineer who planned a water-supply scheme for Mumbai which is still in use today, also designed St Mary's Church, Itchen Stoke, (pictured) in Hampshire?
- ALT1:... that Henry Conybeare, who designed the Afghan Church in Colaba, Mumbai, was co-builder of the Cefn Coed Viaduct near Cefn-coed-y-cymmer?
- Reviewed: Ruislip-Northwood Urban District
- ALT1:... that Henry Conybeare, who designed the Afghan Church in Colaba, Mumbai, was co-builder of the Cefn Coed Viaduct near Cefn-coed-y-cymmer?
Created by GuillaumeTell (talk). Self nom at 15:38, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Bumastus
- ... that the extinct trilobite Bumastus (artist's rendition pictured) was named after its resemblance to large grapes?
- Comment: My third self nom. Image is my own work and specifically created for the article.
Created by Obsidian Soul (talk). Self nom at 20:45, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length, history and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 16:00, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Treaty of Chernomen
- ... that John VI Kantakouzenos concealed the purpose of the 1327 Byzantine–Bulgarian Treaty of Chernomen by describing it as eight days of rejoicing and feasts?
- Reviewed: Gunda Gunde
Created by Gligan (talk). Nominated by TodorBozhinov (talk) at 08:06, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, and hook are all good; no reason for this not to go to the Main Page. Nyttend (talk) 12:11, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Edward J. Burke
- ... that Edward J. Burke coached the Drexel Dragons men's basketball team to their first NCAA Tournament?
- Reviewed: Jefferson nickel
Created by Editorofthewiki (talk). Self nom at 23:43, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Move to mainspace date. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 23:43, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date, hook fact, and hook length check out. Incidentally, a search on the NCAA's website[12] reveals Burke's birth date as December 4, 1945 (he's listed under Eddie Burke). Would be nice to get that basic biographical detail in the article, but the article's good to go either way. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 02:50, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- I just took 30 seconds to add the birth date. OCNative (talk) 00:27, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date, hook fact, and hook length check out. Incidentally, a search on the NCAA's website[12] reveals Burke's birth date as December 4, 1945 (he's listed under Eddie Burke). Would be nice to get that basic biographical detail in the article, but the article's good to go either way. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 02:50, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Aaiha
- ... that Aaiha is considered by locals to be the source of the Jordan river due to a chasm and underground stream that leads to the Hasbani river?
- Reviewed: Gunda Gunda
Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Nominated by Paul Bedson (talk) at 00:28, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reworded slightly to something that seems to be what was intended. Daniel Case (talk) 04:29, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Looks good to go. History2007 (talk) 16:27, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
M2 gas mask
- ... that the M2 gas mask protected the wearer for at least five hours against the common World War I chemical weapon phosgene?
- Reviewed: 5th Arizona Territorial Legislature
Created by Buggie111 (talk). Nominated by Buggie111 (talk) at 18:06, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook ref verified. However, much of the information is based on a blog. I found at least 3 good sources for further information on Google Books, and listed the links on the talk page. Perhaps you could wean off the blog and polish up the article with the book info? Yoninah (talk) 19:32, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Drat! I didn't know it was a blog. I'll try to. does the other site (Gasmasklexicon) count as an RS? Buggie111 (talk) 23:00, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Acropyga acutiventris and Xenococcus annandalei
... that the ant, Acropyga acutiventris, forms a mutualistic association with the mealybug, Xenococcus annandalei, and that the queen leaves the nest on her nuptial flight carrying a mealybug in her jaws?
- Reviewed: Radix natalensis
- Comment: One hook for two connected new articles.
Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self nom at 09:36, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length verified, DYK hook facts verified for both hooks. I think, there should not be commas in the hook above. I like shorter ALT1. --Snek01 (talk) 11:02, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- ATL1: ... that the queen ant of the Acropyga acutiventris carries a mealybug Xenococcus annandalei in her jaws on her nuptial flight?
- All checks out for ALT1, which is far better. Moonraker2 (talk) 10:50, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Samantha McClymont
... that Australian country music singer Samantha McClymont, a member of the sister trio The McClymonts, failed to make the Top 30 finalists in Australian Idol 2004?
Created by WWGB (talk). Self nom at 02:15, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- All criteria satisfied but no evidence of a "hook review" of another DYK candidate (rule 5 on WP:WIADYK). JFW | T@lk 20:51, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Ethiopian eunuch [13] WWGB (talk) 12:38, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook ref verified. However, the hook seems rather negative and assumes that I know how great she is. How about:
- ALT1: ... that at age 18, Australian country music singer Samantha McClymont was crowned Grafton Jacaranda Queen, named Trans-Tasman Entertainer of the Year, and was a Top 118 finalist for Australian Idol? Yoninah (talk) 21:16, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that Samantha McClymont and her sisters Brooke and Mollie, who perform as Australian country music trio The McClymonts, went gold with their first album?Yoninah (talk) 21:50, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- I am happy with ALT1, don't like ALT2 since the Australian Idol reference is the unexpected element here. WWGB (talk) 00:51, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1 was 202 characters, so I shortened it a bit. ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 09:24, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- All criteria satisfied but no evidence of a "hook review" of another DYK candidate (rule 5 on WP:WIADYK). JFW | T@lk 20:51, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Ethiopian eunuch
- ... that the Ethiopian eunuch (pictured) has been described as the "first baptized gay Christian"?
- Reviewed: Ferris Jennings
Created by StAnselm (talk). Self nom at 23:37, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Looks good to go, quote unable to be verified from inaccessible reference, but AGF. WWGB (talk) 12:35, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- I've added a Google Books link. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 16:29, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Adam Eckfeldt
... that longtime United States Mint Chief Coiner Adam Eckfeldt began what became the Smithsonian's National Numismatic Collection?
Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 22:12, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Walter Gilbert (cricketer).--Wehwalt (talk) 22:12, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. The hook is a bit staid, though. What do you think about:
- ALT1: ... that when the first cents coined by the US Mint were ridiculed for their crudeness, Mint worker Adam Eckfeldt replaced the chain design with a wreath and put a trefoil under Liberty's head? Yoninah (talk) 19:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- That's fine. Thank you for the review.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:16, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:48, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
St Mary Magdalene's Church, Tortington
- ... that St Mary Magdalene's Church in Tortington (pictured) has "an amazing congregation of grotesque monsters"?
- Reviewed: Abraham Bolden (Diff)
Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 22:05, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length and date verified. Offline hook accepted in good faith. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 03:08, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Walter Gilbert (cricketer)
... that cricketer Walter Gilbert, a cousin of W. G. Grace, was caught stealing money from a team-mate?
Created by Sarastro1 (talk). Self nom at 21:25, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, ref all checked, though subscription ref accepted in good faith, everything in order, well done.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:07, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Comment. I don't like hooks that solely focus on a negative aspect of a subject. It is forbidden in regards to living people, of course, but it's not good with dead people either. StAnselm (talk) 21:27, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- We've had many other instances of foul play by subjects, for whom we only mentioned positive information. How about:
- ALT1:
... that amateur English cricketer Walter Gilbert, a cousin of W. G. Grace, had his best season in 1876 when he scored 205 not out for Gloucestershire?Yoninah (talk) 21:00, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Hmmm... a bit dull, to be honest. This chap's only really claim to fame is to be one of the few famous cricketers to be caught in a compromising situation, resulting in a fairly spectacular fall from grace which was perpetuated for approximately 90 years. And I think the original hook is far more likely to make someone take a look. Much more than someone who no-one probably heard of making a score which isn't too impressive in modern times. But if it is a big deal at DYK that the hooks must be positive (even when the subject has been dead for 86 years), then I suppose ALT1 will have to suffice, as there is not too much else in his life not related to his ... erm ... indiscretion. --Sarastro1 (talk) 21:12, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- OK, how about:
- ALT2: ... that a conspiracy of silence surrounded the fate of English cricketer Walter Gilbert for 60 years after his death? Yoninah (talk) 21:28, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- OK, humble pie, that one is much better than the one I had. Great stuff! --Sarastro1 (talk) 21:48, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. ALT2 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:09, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, everyone. StAnselm (talk) 22:23, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
List of Scotland national football team hat-tricks
- ... that footballers Denis Law, Robert Smyth McColl and Hughie Gallacher have each scored three hat-tricks for Scotland?
- Reviewed: Robert Phelps
5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 18:35, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Bit of an unusual one as the DYK check tool is saying that it isn't a 5x expansion although my calculator is saying it is. Previous count was 344, and current expansion places it at 1780 characters. 344x5=1720, so not sure why the addon is saying no. :( Miyagawa (talk) 18:38, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- I get the same numbers with the DYK check and it seems OK to me. Hook checks out and refs all good. Is it necessary to say "sets of hat-tricks" or would "hat-tricks" be enough? --Sarastro1 (talk) 21:15, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for review, have amended hook. Miyagawa (talk) 21:59, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Jefferson nickel
- ... that Felix Schlag won the prize for designing the Jefferson nickel but was required to submit an entirely new "tails" or reverse side?
Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 17:10, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed: Church of St John the Baptist, Upper Eldon--Wehwalt (talk) 17:10, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good! ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 23:36, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Comment. "Reverse" should have a wikilink to the Obverse and reverse article. StAnselm (talk) 01:43, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- That is done. Thank you.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:31, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Church of St John the Baptist, Upper Eldon
- ... that in 1864 the Church of St John the Baptist, Upper Eldon, (pictured) in Hampshire was being used as a cowshed, and in 1973 its only occupant was "a beautiful white owl"?
- Reviewed: North Piddle
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 13:45, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Checked history, length, reference. All looks good!--Wehwalt (talk) 17:07, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
North Piddle
- ... that residents of North Piddle saw a flash of light prior to one of England's strongest earthquakes and speculated its cause was a a meteor impact?
Created by Mbz1 (talk). Nominated by Canuckle (talk) at 08:17, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, ref OK. But the ref does not say it was "one of England's strongest earthquakes"; this has to be deduced from the link, which is not OK for DYK. The ref says what the article says: it "exceeded in violence any previous instance of seismic energy here within the present century". Would you like to re-word the hook?--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 13:35, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Would "one of 19th-Century England's" be appropriate? Canuckle (talk) 03:53, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Well, that's correct, but it's still not what the source actually says. As the earthquake occurred in 1896, and it was the strongest of the century to date, it probably was the strongest in the century. But again that is deduction. Can you make anything of its occurrence in 1896 and the extract I quoted above? Or, to keep it simple, just leave out the bit about its being the strongest and confine the hook to the the date and the witness's experiences and speculations.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 08:31, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Alt1 ... that some residents of North Piddle speculated that an earthquake that "exceeded in violence any previous instance of seismic energy there within the present century" was caused by a meteor impact?--Mbz1 (talk) 16:50, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- The source does not say that they thought the earthquake was caused by a meteor, but rather that the flash of light accompanying it was attributed to a meteor. Would you accept:
- ALT2 ... that the flash of light accompanying an earthquake in 1896 was attributed by some residents of North Piddle to a large meteor? --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 18:42, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Sure.--Mbz1 (talk) 20:41, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- for ALT2. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 21:54, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Sure.--Mbz1 (talk) 20:41, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Supernatural (Des'ree album)
- ... that Supernatural, a 1998 album by British singer Des'ree, sold 50,000 copies in the United States, although her 1994 album I Ain't Movin' sold over a million copies?
- Reviewed: Long Island serial killer ([15])
Created by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 05:07, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Looks good to me. Jheald (talk) 15:57, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Battle of Shubra Khit
- ... that the detonation of the Mamluk's flagship's magazine at the Battle of Shubra Khit sent both the Mamluk flotilla and ground forces in full retreat?
- ALT1:... that Napoleon's plans for the Battle of the Pyramids were based on the strategy he used at the Battle of Shubra Khit?
- Reviewed: Chamcook Lake
Created by Buggie111 (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- it is the same battle right : Battle of Chobrakit? shouldn't it be merged?
- . Sadly, the article doesn't seem to be elegible as it already exists as Battle of Chobrakit(?). The two need to be merged. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 13:31, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- How could I have missed that? Darn. I'm fine with having mine deleted and the other continue on, it's got nearly the exact same info. Guess I shouldn't wait years when making articles in my userspace! Buggie111 (talk) 21:35, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Abuse defense
- ... that, after chopping off her husband's penis, Lorena Bobbitt won her trial by employing the abuse defense?
- Reviewed: Jan Müller-Wieland ([16])
5x expanded by Cryptic C62 (talk). Self nom at 05:02, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date,
length, expansion,appropriate number of characters (must avoid inappropriate joke), and (regrettably) hook all check out. This is ready for DYK. We are left with the question whether this should be intentionally placed on the Main Page at the same time as Ethiopian eunuch or whether it should be intentionally placed at a different time. OCNative (talk) 01:09, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Hee! Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 02:04, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- I absolutely support putting the two together. How often do we get to have two wiener hooks in the same batch? --Cryptic C62 · Talk 03:24, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date,
Gandrung
- ... that Gandrung traditional dance (pictured), popular in Java, Bali and Lombok, was originally dedicated to the rice goddess, Dewi Sri?
created by Awewe (talk). Self nom at 20:02, 10 April 2011 (UTC+8)
- Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:47, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Rome bid for the 2020 Summer Olympics
- ... that the Rome bid for the 2020 Summer Olympics will use 70 percent of the city's existing venues?
Created by Yk Yk Yk (talk). Self nom at 23:18, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:25, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Highest opening stand against England in Australia
- ... in the Fourth Test of the 1965-66 Ashes series the Australian cricket captain Bobby Simpson and his batting partner Bill Lawry made 244 runs in 255 minutes, the highest opening stand against England in Australia?
Created by Philip Jelley (talk). Self nom Philipjelley (talk) 13:55, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Comment. The heading is wrong on this page. It should be 1965-66 Ashes series. There are also some ugly red-linked "main" tags at the top of the article. StAnselm (talk) 20:52, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Question: Have you reviewed another article? HMS Plover (M26) doesn't count, since that had already been reviewed. StAnselm (talk) 20:56, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- I also reviewed "List of ICC Cricket World Cup finals", I have created the two new articles mentioned, so they are no lnger ugly and read, though still under construction.Philipjelley (talk) 13:21, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Did you read Template:Main/doc? That's not what "main" tags are for. StAnselm (talk) 20:04, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 11
Brothertoft
- ... that up to 200 people played a game of football on land near Brothertoft in the 1760s as a protest against enclosure?
5x expanded by Panderoona (talk). Nominated by Sitush (talk) at 19:52, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Comment from nominator - I've done a fair amount of work on this but do not want the credit. The other major editor is a newbie & she brought it to my attention + carried on with her own edits there. I feel that a little encouragement here would go a long way. - Sitush (talk) 19:55, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Comment from nominee - Id like to thank Sitush for all his help, he deserves credit for being a great teacher :) Panderoona 20:31, 16 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Panderoona (talk • contribs)
- 5x expansion verified. Date, length, hook ref all verified. Nice job! Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:07, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Louisa Hubbard, Women's Emigration Society
- ... that Louisa Hubbard founded the Women's Emigration Society in 1880 to help young women from London find employment outside of the United Kingdom?
Created by Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 19:28, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Alimuddin Zumla[17]
- Date, length, hook ref verified for both articles. Tweaked hook and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:30, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Christian Thomas (ice hockey)
- ... that Steve and Christian Thomas are the first father-son combination to each score at least 50 goals in a single Ontario Hockey League season?
- Reviewed: Allocosa brasiliensis
5x expanded by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 17:29, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Note that this article is currently at AfD, so this nomination is contingent on a "keep" close. Rlendog (talk) 17:34, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date, and hook verified. This looks like it will probably be kept, at which time this hook will be good to go. GaryColemanFan (talk) 14:17, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Theodoxus fluviatilis
- ... that the snail Theodoxus fluviatilis (shells pictured) can reach population density up to 6412 snails per m²?
5x expanded by Snek01 (talk). Self nom at 23:29, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Messier 91 [18]
- Expansion, date and hook ref verified. I added "the" before "snail" in the hook. —Bruce1eetalk 12:02, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Charles Alston
- ... that artist Charles Alston's bust of Martin Luther King Jr. was the first image of an African American displayed at the White House?
5x expanded by Missvain (talk). Self nom at 22:03, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Loire Valley chansonniers
- Length and date are fine, and the hook is quite interesting. I think we could link to African American as well. But did you review an article here? StAnselm (talk) 22:43, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed something, spaced it. African American can be linked too, fine with me. Missvain (talk) 22:52, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Great! I've added the wikilink. StAnselm (talk) 00:12, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Black Eagle Dam
- ... that Black Eagle Dam was dynamited on April 14, 1908, so that floodwaters from collapsed Hauser Dam could pass through?
Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 14:12, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Spring Creek Site - Tim1965 (talk) 14:13, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length and date verified; sources taken in good faith. Suggest rewording the hook to show that only a portion of the dam was dynamited (rather than the whole dam was blown up). The picture also needs to be referred to in the hook. matt (talk) 17:02, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT:... that a portion of Black Eagle Dam (pictured) was dynamited on April 14, 1908, so that floodwaters from the collapsed Hauser Dam could pass through?
Bright Angel (Waterhouse)
- ... that Bright Angel, composed by Graham Waterhouse for three bassoons and contrabassoon, relates to the Bright Angel Trail of the Grand Canyon, hiked by the composer, then age 9, and his father?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 12:44, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed: #Richard Riemerschmid --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:05, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- I blocked out that large quote, and without it, the page is under 1500 char. Also, the first two paragraphs of the History section, from where you pulled your hook, lacks inline citations. Yoninah (talk) 21:34, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- We probably won't find inline citations for the fact that someone remembers his hike as a boy. It was the year when his father taught in Indiana, 1972, before his tenth birthday in November. - As to the quote: that is the personal version of the artist, "first hand", so to speak". I don't dare to say it differently, it would loose authenticity. Summary: the music was inspired by that hike, fact or not. What can we do? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:48, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- OK, now I see the hook ref in footnote #1. Now, what can you do about expanding the article with another paragraph? The quote is fine as is; it just doesn't count for the DYK character count per Rule A2. Yoninah (talk) 21:57, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Give me some time, please. The piece was performed today in Wigmore Hall, perhaps there will be a review or something additional in the program book that I might use. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:05, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Brian Morris (judge)
... that Montana Supreme Court Justice Brian Morris, who clerked for U.S. Chief Justice William Rehnquist, is one of the Stanford Cardinal football team's all-time single-game pass reception leaders?
- ALT1:... that Montana Supreme Court Justice Brian Morris, who clerked for U.S. Chief Justice William Rehnquist, was the starting fullback in the 1986 Gator Bowl for the Stanford Cardinal football team?
- ALT2:
... that Montana Supreme Court Justice Brian Morris was a state champion in high school track, four-year Stanford Cardinal football letterwinner, and law clerk for US Chief Justice William Rehnquist? - Reviewed: Abuse defense ([19])
Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 01:22, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Wow, you know how to pick the good ones! Date, length, hook ref all verified for ALT1, which reads simply and cleanly. I've taken out some linking so it won't look all-blue. ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:39, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Only the fun judges have enough info to hit the 1500 characters required for DYK. The really boring judges (for example, I created Dennis A. Cornell and Rick Haselton) have so little info about them, I can't even get to 1500 characters! OCNative (talk) 01:45, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Loire Valley chansonniers
- ... that the Loire Valley chansonniers are 15th century illustrated songbooks that are smaller than a modern paperback?
Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 23:39, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Gandrung
- Cool! Checks out and looks good to me! Missvain (talk) 22:51, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Triniscope
- ... that RCA used its Triniscope color television design during FCC meetings, even though it was clear it would not be accepted?
Created by User:Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 23:23, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed self-propelled particles.
- Length and hook are fine, offline reference accepted in good faith - Basement12 (T.C) 14:25, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
6th Arizona Territorial Legislature
- ... that the 6th Arizona Territorial Legislature was delayed from 1869 until 1871 because no Territorial Governor was available to call for elections?
- Reviewed: Barend Joseph Stokvis ([20])
Created by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 23:07, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, and hook check out; offline refs accepted in good faith. This is good to go for DYK. By the way, I love this entire Arizona Territorial Legislature series you're doing; great job on them all! Also, while reviewing this article for DYK, I took the liberty of including "(a future Governor of California)" after George Stoneman's name and I changed "The session convened on January 11, 1971" to "The session convened on January 11, 1871" as I assume that this was a typo (i.e. the session was delayed 2 years, not 102 years). OCNative (talk) 02:05, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Gunda Gunda Gunde
- ... that, with over 220 volumes, the monastery of Gunda Gunde has one of the largest collections of Ge'ez manuscripts in Ethiopia?
Created by Llywrch (talk). Self nom at 21:21, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date and length are ok but I have 2 problems with this 1) the hook doesn't seem fully supported by the sources - please can you specify where it is mentioned as one of the largest collections. I couldn't find it in the sources. My second problem concerns the name. It seems more frequently referred to as Gunda Gunde when searched for, including modern 2007 sources. Gunda Gunda sounds cooler (like Zenga Zenga) but I think it's important to keep article with the most current and most widely used naming conventions, so this might be worth a check. Thanks! Good article apart from that btw. Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 23:15, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- About the name: Due to a lack of a standardized transliteration system for Amharic -> English, spelling Ethiopian names are very inconsistent. (See the footnote to Wukro for one set of examples.) However, I went back to my printed sources, & they all use "Gunda Gunde" -- so I'll fix that. (I must have confused this monastery with a village 50 km away, just across the border in Eritrea: Guna guna.) As for your first point, I'll need to do some more research to confirm or correct that fact; however, considering that the library of the average Ethiopian church or monastery contains less than a dozen volumes, 200 volumes is a very large number. -- llywrch (talk) 00:07, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length and date are okay. However, I was unable to find references to the "one of the largest collections of its kind in Ethiopia" claim in the cited source. — Toдor Boжinov — 08:10, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- After a lot of searching, I've found source which states it was (at one time) the largest library of "Abyssinian" literature (which is the older Western name for the Ge'ez language) & have added more material to put the size of its collection in perspective, compared to both inside & outside the country. I don't know if that satisfies all of the concern with that statement, or I should come up with a different hook. -- llywrch (talk) 21:53, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry for requiring so much additional work on your part. The de Jacobis statement seems a bit too distant in time to be considered valid today. Your research has proven that there are larger collections, but not that this one is among the largest (in fact, the two you have cited are significantly larger). Perhaps it would be better to come up with a hook that can be more easily sourced. Why not use the bit about the dragon? — Toдor Boжinov — 12:38, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- No problem about the extra work. (I enjoy doing the research. ;-) But as for an alternative hook, I'd rather not use the dragon: many Christian sites are located where mythical creatures or pagan sacred sites. How about a hook like, "... that, despite being an important institution of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, the monastery of Gunda Gunde provided many converts to the Roman Catholic missionary and later saint Justin de Jacobis"? -- llywrch (talk) 19:14, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Lardea, Ktenia (fortress)
- ... that the medieval fortresses Lardea and Ktenia in modern southeastern Bulgaria were lost by the Second Bulgarian Empire to Byzantium in 1322 only to be recovered in 1324, then ceded back and once again recaptured in 1332?
- ALT1:... that the medieval fortresses Lardea and Ktenia in modern southeastern Bulgaria changed hands between the Second Bulgarian Empire and the Byzantine Empire several times in the first half of the 14th century?
- Reviewed: Peñamiller
Created by Gligan (talk), TodorBozhinov (talk). Nominated by TodorBozhinov (talk) at 20:07, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Dates and lengths both good. AGF of offline, foreign language sources. --Allen3 talk 12:58, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
5th Arizona Territorial Legislature
- ... that the 5th Arizona Territorial Legislature had difficulty maintaining a quorum in its lower house due to the large number of members that did not attend the session?
- Reviewed: Open Your Eyes (Yes song) ([21])
Created by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 17:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Everything seems good to go! Buggie111 (talk) 18:06, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
1924–25 Nelson F.C. season
- ... that Nelson F.C. lost only one home match in the Football League Third Division North during the 1924–25 season?
- Reviewed: Indianapolis Art Center
Created by BigDom (talk). Self nom at 15:54, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. --TIAYN (talk) 19:45, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Felicia D. Henderson
- ... that African-American writer Felicia D. Henderson has worked on projects as varied as the television series Soul Food, Gossip Girl, and Fringe, and the comic series Teen Titans?
Created by Ruby2010 comment! 06:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
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- Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 18:54, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Barend Joseph Stokvis
- ... that Barend Joseph Stokvis, a Dutch professor of medicine, was the first to describe the rare disease acute porphyria in a 1889 study?
5x expanded by Jfdwolff (talk). Self nom at 15:21, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Dates and lengths both look good. Hook and article appear consistent with provided online sources, so AGF of offline sourcing. The nomination however does not include any proof of a hook review as required by rule 5 of the selection criteria. The review is needed before this nomination can be approved. --Allen3 talk 17:48, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Samantha McClymont. Ironically on hold for the same reasons. JFW | T@lk 20:57, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Looks good to go. --Allen3 talk 21:17, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Samantha McClymont. Ironically on hold for the same reasons. JFW | T@lk 20:57, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Dates and lengths both look good. Hook and article appear consistent with provided online sources, so AGF of offline sourcing. The nomination however does not include any proof of a hook review as required by rule 5 of the selection criteria. The review is needed before this nomination can be approved. --Allen3 talk 17:48, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Mikhail Pervukhin
- ... that Mikhail Pervukhin, a First Deputy Chairman and a Deputy Premier of the Council of Ministers, was a central figure in the creation of the Soviet atomic bomb?
5x created/expanded by TIAYN (talk) 19:43, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: 1924–25 Nelson F.C. season
Length and date. But fact on being First Deputy Premier is only mentioned in the lede, needs mention further down with hook. Also, the sentence where he's mentioned as important in the atomic programme should have a ref directly after it. --Soman (talk) 02:24, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Fixed There is not one specific sentence which says he was a central figure..... --TIAYN (talk) 12:10, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 12
Darryl Richard (actor)
- ... that child actor Darryl Richard made his last TV appearance on the series finale of ABC's The Donna Reed Show, March 19, 1966, a day after his 20th birthday?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 14:55, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Everything checks out.--Giants27(Contribs|WP:CFL) 19:29, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Mitt Romney presidential campaign, 2012
Ricky Hunter
- ... that Charles B. Sprott sued the reigning World Heavyweight Champion in 1973 for calling him names in a parking lot? Created by Jjron (talk). Self nom at 11:32, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Groupe Bogolan Kasobané (diff)
- Date, length, hook ref all verified. Just wondering if readers will identify "Ricky Hunter" more than "Charles B. Sprott"? Do you want to write:
- ALT1:
... that Charles B. Sprott, better known by his ring names "Ricky Hunter" and the masked wrestler "The Gladiator", sued the reigning World Heavyweight Champion in 1973 for calling him names in a parking lot?Yoninah (talk) 21:19, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, you're right, I had considered that also, but it does make it pretty wordy, with a fair bit of reading before you get to the 'punchline'. Also thought with DYK it's about drawing people to the article, and with the short version you look at it and think, "what the...? That sounds weird, I gotta see what this is about", whereas with the longer version a lot of people would get to the ring names stuff and just think "oh, it's just some wrestling story" and not bother looking any further. I also considered just straight out using Ricky Hunter instead of Charles B. Sprott as a sort of middle road, but it was Sprott rather than his alias that is reported to have sued. Another ALT I considered was something along the lines of:
- ALT2:
... that Charles B. Sprott held championship titles under five different names? - ALT3:
... that Charles B. Sprott held championship titles under five different names, including "Ricky Hunter" and "The Gladiator"?
- ALT2:
- Personally I tend to prefer the original version, but there's a few options to pick from for whoever chooses these things. Thanks. --jjron (talk) 10:40, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- I also like the original; I was just asking as a non-wrestling buff. :) Original hook good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:19, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Cheers. --jjron (talk) 08:22, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, you're right, I had considered that also, but it does make it pretty wordy, with a fair bit of reading before you get to the 'punchline'. Also thought with DYK it's about drawing people to the article, and with the short version you look at it and think, "what the...? That sounds weird, I gotta see what this is about", whereas with the longer version a lot of people would get to the ring names stuff and just think "oh, it's just some wrestling story" and not bother looking any further. I also considered just straight out using Ricky Hunter instead of Charles B. Sprott as a sort of middle road, but it was Sprott rather than his alias that is reported to have sued. Another ALT I considered was something along the lines of:
Mitt Romney presidential campaign, 2012
- ... that the infrastructure planning for Mitt Romney's 2012 presidential campaign began soon after his loss in the 2008 campaign?
Created by GageSkidmore (talk), MAINEiac4434 (talk). Nominated by Wasted Time R (talk) at 04:53, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
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- To me, the hook source seems like speculation on the journalist's part, and the point is further overstated in the hook. It seems to imply subterfuge and vicarious motives, and thereby violate criterion 4.Lampman (talk) 22:36, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- I don't read any of that into it. Some people after a loss are determined to try again, and begin preparations to do so; that's value-neutral. But how about:
- ALT1: ... that the first phase of Mitt Romney's 2012 presidential campaign was announced via a video message? Wasted Time R (talk) 10:15, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- I prefer that; to my knowledge, Romney's intention to run in 2012 was not explicitly stated by the candidate himself until now. Date, length and hook ok. The article could be longer, as Billy says, but I assume that will come with time. Editors might want to take a look at the formatting of the references before it goes on the main page. Lampman (talk) 16:05, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- I think the article can be expaned by three or four paragraphs to make it better. Billy Hathorn (talk) 15:09, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Alimuddin Zumla
- ... that Alimuddin Zumla was the first Zambian doctor to be shortlisted for the BMJ Group's Lifetime Achievement Award?
Created by CaliforniaAliBaba (talk). Self nom at 03:08, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed #Garcorops jadis. cab (call) 07:48, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, and hook are all fine. Good job. Qrsdogg (talk) 19:32, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Kawasaki's theorem
- ... that according to Kawasaki's theorem, an origami crease pattern with one vertex may be folded flat (pictured) if and only if the sum of every other angle between consecutive creases is 180º?
- Reviewed: Antoine Germain Labarraque (diff)
5x expanded by David Eppstein (talk). Self nom at 21:29, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- I verified the 5-fold expansion. The article is well written and amply referenced. The graphic is attention-grabbing and informative. (It is nice to have a mathematical idea be the DYK, rather than an anecdote about a mathematician.) Kiefer.Wolfowitz (Discussion) 00:13, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Tesco bomb campaign
- ... that police used cryptic messages placed in a newspaper and disguised as Mensa puzzles to communicate with the perpetrator of a letter bomb campaign?
Created by HJ Mitchell (talk). Self nom at 17:36, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, hook and refs all check out. Interesting hook. Jenks24 (talk) 15:58, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Pedro Virgili, Vilallonga del Camp
- ... that Pedro Virgili, from Vilallonga del Camp, was one of the most prominent royal surgeons of Spain in the 18th century?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 09:57, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed Church of St Thomas à Becket, Capel♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:48, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length of both articles OK. However, there is no reference for the fact that Pedro Virgili was from Vilallonga del Camp. Yoninah (talk) 21:17, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Felipe González González
- ... that Felipe González González was Governor of Aguascalientes from 1998 to 2004?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 09:41, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Everything looks good; AGF for the Spanish sources. Nyttend (talk) 03:35, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed Center Point, Camp County, Texas♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:45, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Allocosa brasiliensis
- ... that in the burrowing wolf spider Allocosa brasiliensis, males often eat older, less fecund females that they lured into their burrow using pheromones, while preferredly mating with virgins?
Created by Sarefo (talk). Self nom at 09:29, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- requested picture of species from Anita Aisenberg --Sarefo (talk) 09:29, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date and length check. AGF on the pheremone portion; the rest checks directly. I would suggest tightening the hook to "... that males burrowing wolf spiders Allocosa brasiliensis often eat older, less fecund females but mate with virgins?" Rlendog (talk) 17:22, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Added some description. Actually the fact that spider males are larger than females and will eat them is the real novelty here. Possibly something like "... unlike many other spiders, where females eat males, the males of Allocosa brasiliensis often eat their females, particularly if these have already mated." Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 20:36, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Most of the pertinent sources should now be available in English @ article. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 22:16, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Church of St Thomas à Becket, Capel
- ... that it is said that Thomas à Becket preached either in the church dedicated to him (pictured), in Capel, Kent, or in its churchyard?
- Reviewed: Send tape echo echo delay
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 09:23, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Good to go. Nice job.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:47, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
The Motherfucker With the Hat
- ... that The Motherfucker With the Hat took $239,221 during its first month on Broadway?
Created by MZMcBride (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 07:59, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- This article still needs a little more work before it is ready. The majority of the current text is quotations from reviews (indeed, the article reads like a review), and if I exclude those, it falls short of the length requirement. Also, several of the paragraphs with the reviews lack inline citations to the actual articles they quote; I imagine they were taken from the aggregation on StageGrade, but I don't think that's ideal in terms of sourcing. I would also suggest that a more interesting hook could be found than a statistic (like perhaps that it was Chris Rock's theater debut?). Dominic·t 08:55, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Checked: Leigh Newton Chzz ► 08:07, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
On hold - OK; give me a few days, I'll try to improve it as you said. This is still 'new' so it'll still be within the 5 days. I'll let you know. Cheers, Chzz ► 20:46, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Please re-check, as the article has developed and is less of a quote-tarm. All paragraphs have references (and the quotations are now sourced to the original). I'm happy with an alternative hook - for example,
- ... that The Motherfucker With the Hat was the Broadway debut for Chris Rock?
- Thanks, Chzz ► 12:38, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Leigh Newton
- ... that Juice Newton played Australian rules football for the Melbourne Football Club?
Created by Jenks24 (talk). Self nom at 07:33, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, hook and refs check out OK. Chzz ► 08:06, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
James C. Nelson
- ... that James C. Nelson, appointed as a Montana Supreme Court Justice by George W. Bush's campaign chair, wrote that blocking same-sex marriage was a "societal cancer grounded in bigotry and hate?"
- ALT1:... that James C. Nelson, appointed as a Montana Supreme Court Justice by Republican Governor Marc Racicot, wrote that blocking same-sex marriage was a "societal cancer grounded in bigotry and hate?"
- Reviewed: 6th Arizona Territorial Legislature ([22])
- Comment: Before my edits, this article was completely unsourced and consisted of 139 characters: "James C. Nelson (February 20, 1944 – ) is a justice on the Montana Supreme Court. He has served on the court since his appointment in 1993." With my edits, it is now 3,245 characters. This meets the requirements for both the newly-sourced BLP 2x expansion and the 5x expansion of any article.
2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 02:47, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
St. Andrews Biological Station
- ... that St. Andrews Biological Station in New Brunswick is Canada's first marine biological research station?
Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 00:09, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Communion token
Ref checks out (Fisheries and Oceans Canada, sounds OK), length c. 3000 words of prose, article looks to be of a good standard. Chzz ► 07:15, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Song Beneath the Song
- ... that the first musical episode of Grey's Anatomy was conceived over seven years before it was produced, while the series was still untitled?
- Reviewed: Appy Awards ([23])
- Comment: Created in a sandbox on 25 March, moved to the mainspace on 12 April.
Created by Frickative (talk). Self nom at 00:04, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Alaungpaya
- ... that Alaungpaya was a village headman who founded the Konbaung Dynasty of Burma, and unified the country for the third time in its history?
5x expanded by Hybernator (talk). Self nom at 23:33, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed article Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 03:26, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
A couple of concerns.
- 1) In the article, can you give an inline reference for unifying the country for the third time in Burmese history.
- 2) Is this a 5 times expansion, following the 5 day Rule? I see the previous edit of 26 March 2011. 8,079 bytes X 5 would be about 40,000 bytes and 5 days would be 31 March 2011, NOT 12 April 2011, some 17 days later. Wikipedia:Did you know#DYK rules
- IF you can address these above two issues, I would feel more comfortable passing it. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell talk 14:13, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- IF I use this tool, the History shows on 26 March 2011 the article had 3424 bytes and on 12 April 2011 it had 23,986 - so, I'll approve length as being over 5 times expansion. So, IF you could address the issue of the rule of 5 days - then we could have approval.--Doug Coldwell talk 15:01, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date, hook ref AGF.--Doug Coldwell talk 20:00, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Communion token
- ... that over 5,000 types of communion token (pictured) have been recorded?
- Reviewed: Charles Alston
Created by StAnselm (talk). Self nom at 22:53, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:22, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Kenmare Sorceress
- ... that the Best in Show at the 1912 Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show, Kenmare Sorceress, was purchased from a brick-layer in Wales?
- Reviewed: Direct lobbying
Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 20:34, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook, ref okay. Good to go --Epipelagic (talk) 21:42, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Glisachaemus
- ... that the only known specimen of the extinct planthopper Glisachaemus jonasdamzeni is preserved with a parasitic mite?
Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 20:33, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Gulf Coast Lines again for hook quality.
- Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:05, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
List of number-one dance hits of 2005 (UK)
- ... that the longest-running number one of the UK Dance Chart in 2005 was "Hung Up" by Madonna, which spent four weeks at the top of the chart?
- ALT1:... that the only act to top the UK Dance Chart in 2005 with more than two singles was Mylo?
5x expanded by A Thousand Doors (talk). Self nom at 20:15, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Comment: This may be the sort of hook that you need to AGF on. Each week is sourced, so if someone wanted to go through and check every number one, they could, but I can assure you that both hooks are correct. I'll leave it to the discretion of the reviewer. A Thousand Doors (talk) 20:15, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: White Ware ([24]) A Thousand Doors (talk) 20:22, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Phoenix Tower, Chester
- ... that a plaque on Phoenix Tower (pictured) in Chester states that King Charles I stood on the tower in 1645 as he watched his soldiers being defeated at Rowton Moor?
- Reviewed: Mukhayriq
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 19:42, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go. All criteria check out. Maile66 (talk) 01:31, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
180 Degrees South: Conquerors of the Useless
- ... that in the 2010 documentary film 180 Degrees South: Conquerors of the Useless, Jeff Johnson emulates the 1968 journey made by Yvon Chouinard and Doug Tompkins?
- Reviewed Alaungpaya.[25]
5x expanded by MichaelQSchmidt (talk) at 19:38, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 10:25, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Send tape echo echo delay
- ... that Geoff Emerick, who co-created the send tape echo echo delay audio effect at Abbey Road Studios (pictured), once said that "God only knows" how it worked?
Created by Mattgirling (talk). Self nom at 16:54, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Black Eagle Dam [26]. matt (talk) 17:03, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date, hook, ref, image all OK. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:18, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Mukhayriq
- ... that Dr. Muqtedar Khan calls Jewish rabbi Mukhayriq "the first Jewish martyr of Islam and "a true Islamic hero"?
- Reviewed: Adrian Dodson ([27])
Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 15:33, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- All DYK criteria met.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 19:33, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Andrew Harclay, 1st Earl of Carlisle
- ... that Edward II of England created Andrew Harclay (pictured) Earl of Carlisle in 1322, only to have him executed less than a year later?
5x expanded by Lampman (talk). Self nom at 15:03, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
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- Reviewed. Date, hook, length, ref okay. Length close to 5x expansion. Hybernator
- Is that a pass? It may be a few words short, but I didn't want to add more just for that. Lampman (talk) 13:16, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Adrian Dodson
- ... that boxer Adrian Dodson competed for Guyana at the 1988 Summer Olympics and for Great Britain at the 1992 Summer Olympics?
Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 11:01, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed Janbirdi al-Ghazali [28] - Basement12 (T.C) 14:15, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook are verified.--Mbz1 (talk) 14:27, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Spring Creek Site
- ... that the Spring Creek Site in western Michigan is a type site for Ottawa pottery?
Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 00:26, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Comment I've exhausted my Wikipedia time for the evening, so I'll not be able to review anything until tomorrow at least. Nyttend (talk) 00:26, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Treaty of Chernomen. Nyttend (talk) 12:11, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Timeliness of submission, article length, and hook length all check out. Offline cite AFG. Article is ready to go. - Tim1965 (talk) 14:07, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Appy Awards
- ... that Angry Birds was named App of the Year at the British Appy Awards for mobile device apps?
Created by The Rambling Man (talk). Self nom at 16:42, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length and hook verified. Interesting topic. Maybe "was named App of the Year", or "won the App of the Year accolade"? If you prefer the wording as is, that's fine with me. Good to go once you've reviewed a nomination (or provided a diff, if you've already done so and I've missed it). Frickative 23:00, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- I think I'll go with the hook as I've just adjusted it above, per your first suggestion. And I've reviewed Huntsman Marine Science Centre here. Thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:52, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Excellent, everything's verified and ready here. Frickative 17:16, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
| image=Blois.Maison de la Magie.wmt.
- Did you know that this publicly-owned museum "Musée de France" contains 170 objects constructed or collected by MagicianJean-Eugène Robert-Houdin, exhibits 19th century automatons and is the only public museum in Europe which incorporates in one place collections of magic and a site for permanent performing arts.
Created by 7&6=thirteen ([[User talk:7&6=thirteen]), Berean Hunter. Self nom at 03:31, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- FYI there is a [Blois.Maison de la Magie.wmt.jpg nice picture] in the article if that helps. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 03:31, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Current nominations
Articles created/expanded on April 13
Evelyn M. Richardson
- ... that the award winning writer Evelyn M. Richardson (1902 – 1976) lived on a 600-acre island for 35 years?
Created by Verne Equinox (talk). Self nom at 21:55, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Charles Silent
Elmo Tanner
- ... that Elmo Tanner’s early recordings appeared on Paramount Records’ race record series?
Created by 78.26 (talk). Self nom at 16:32, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1:... that "Heartaches," featuring Elmo Tanner’s whistling, became a #1 hit fourteen years after it was recorded?"
- ALT2:... that two separate recordings featuring Elmo Tanner shared the same #1 spot on Billboard magazine simultaneously?"
- Reviewed: Matthew Stockford
Charles Silent
- ... that Charles Silent tried to resign from the Arizona Supreme Court almost immediately upon taking up the office?
Created by Allen3 (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 11:53, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Looks OK. Published source accepted in good faith. Verne Equinox (talk) 22:10, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Joseph Bloomfield Leake
- ... that Joseph Bloomfield Leake left the Iowa State Senate to serve in the American Civil War but was later elected back to the Senate?
Created by Farragutful (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 11:53, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length and sources verified - Basement12 (T.C) 11:33, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Great Britain at the 1994 Winter Paralympics
- ... that nordic skier Peter Young won a bronze medal for Great Britain at the 1994 Winter Paralympics, ten years after winning his first Paralympic medal at the 1984 Games?
Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 11:07, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed 8th & 9th Arizona State Legislature (diff)
- Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 06:51, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Garcorops jadis
- ... that the possibly extinct wall crab spider species Garcorops jadis was named for C.S. Lewis' Jadis, the White Witch?
Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 05:39, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, and hook verified (pages 3 and 6 of ref #1). Cheers, cab (call) 07:45, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Nata Bird Sanctuary
Nata Bird Sanctuary
... that the community initiated Nata Bird Sanctuary (Pictured pelicans in the reserve) in Botswana received the "Tourism for Tomorrow Award for the Southern Hemisphere” in 1993 in the very first year of its establishment?
Created by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 00:01, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Aziz Ahmad.--Nvvchar. 01:20, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length and referencing are good. Hook reference taken on good faith.--Kevmin § 05:23, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- I've struck the original hook for the following reasons: • It's ambiguous: I read it to mean that it received the award in the first year of the award's establishment rather than the establishment of the sanctuary. • At 218 characters, the hook is a bit too long. • The title of the award in quotation marks is not correct according to the article (which I fixed according to the source; note that the hook ref is available via Google books, so no AGF required). • It has some formatting errors: upper case Pictured and mixed quotation marks. The following 189-character hook fixes it all:
- ALT1: ... that the community initiated Nata Bird Sanctuary (pelicans in the reserve pictured) in Botswana opened in 1993 and the same year received the "Tourism for Tomorrow" award for the Southern Hemisphere? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:36, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- I agree with the above hook.--Nvvchar. 09:45, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Baltocteniza & Electrocteniza
- ... that the extinct trapdoor spiders Baltocteniza and Electrocteniza were both identified from specimens in Baltic amber?
Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 22:32, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Wildlife of Botswana
Good combination of articles and other wikilinks. Length and date check out, I'm assuming good faith on the offline sources. First Light (talk) 03:28, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Aziz Ahmad
- ... that Aziz Ahmad is considered by many to be the best Buzkashi player in Afghanistan?
Created by Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 18:19, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Nice. Length, reference to hook and date verified. Ready to go.--Nvvchar. 01:18, 14 April 2011 (UTC) [
- Reviewed Stalin's poetry. Qrsdogg (talk) 18:19, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Chris Allison (police officer)
- ... that Metropolitan Police officer Chris Allison was the Gold Commander for police operations in the aftermath of the 7/7 London bombings?
- Reviewed: 10th Arizona Territorial Legislature
- Comment: Rewritten copyvio, moved into mainspace on 13 April (5x expanded from the only non-copyvio text).
5x expanded by January (talk). Self nom at 17:38, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
10th Arizona Territorial Legislature
- ... that Representative J. D. Rumberg of the 10th Arizona Territorial Legislature tried to ban all horse racing in the territory but was only able to have it outlawed on his own ranch?
- Reviewed: Louise Bourgeois Boursier ([29])
Created by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 16:46, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- AGF for offline sources. January (talk) 17:23, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
No sé si es Baires o Madrid
- ... that a live album released in 2009 includes a duet by Fito Páez and Joaquín Sabina, recorded after not speaking to each other for over 10 years?
- ALT1 - Suggest slight change: *mp}}... that a live album released in 2009 includes a duet by Fito Páez and Joaquín Sabina, who had not spoken for more than 10 years?
Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 16:28, 13 April 2011 (UTC). Self nom at 16:27, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go! Parkwells (talk) 17:31, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. Jaespinoza (talk) 21:01, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Madonna (book). Jaespinoza (talk) 16:33, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Ruislip-Northwood Urban District
- ... that the Ruislip-Northwood Urban District was formed in 1904 following concerns over the expansion of the Metropolitan Railway and the growth in population of Northwood?
5x expanded by Harrison49 (talk). Self nom at 15:20, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Article previously ~1400 characters, now ~7800; Hook length OK; AGF for hook ref (ISBN checks out). Good to go. --GuillaumeTell 16:03, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Jovan Skerlić
- ... that Jovan Skerlić's (pictured) role in literature and general cultural and political development has resulted in the suggestion that the period in Serbian history should be named after him?
- Reviewed: Messier 103 (diff)
Created by WhiteWriter (talk), 24.57.81.185 (talk). Self nom at 14:54, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook are verified.Good article. Leidseplein (talk) 04:07, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Matthew Stockford
- ... that four time Winter Paralympic bronze medallist Matthew Stockford became the manager of Olympic skier Chemmy Alcott?
Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 14:30, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed triniscope ([30])
- Article new enough, long enough, and hook cited. Citation checks out. 78.26 (talk) 04:35, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Louise Bourgeois Boursier
- ... that the first woman to write a book on childbirth was Louise Bourgeois Boursier (pictured)?
- Reviewed Alaungpaya (diff) --Doug Coldwell talk 14:24, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 13:52, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Dates, lengths, and sourcing all look good. --Allen3 talk 16:43, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Messier 103
- ... that the star cluster Messier 103 (pictured) can be observed with the use of binoculars?
Expanded from 313 characters of prose to 2012 article of prose. --TitanOne (talk) 13:10, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Nice one. --WhiteWriter (talk) 14:46, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
8th Arizona Territorial Legislature, 9th Arizona Territorial Legislature
- ... that despite the previous session permanently fixing the territorial capital in Tucson, the 9th Arizona Territorial Legislature's first act was to move it to Prescott?
- Reviewed: Lardea, Ktenia (fortress) ([31])
Created by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 13:05, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length(s), date(s) and hook are fine, AGF for offline references - Basement12 (T.C) 11:03, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Spill (audio)
Example of drum kit spill into a snare drum microphone
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- ... that although audio spill (example right) is often undesirable in the recording of popular music, it can be heard on records by The Beatles and Christina Aguilera?
Created by Mattgirling (talk). Self nom at 11:51, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Fred Laycock. matt (talk) 11:58, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Comment: Sound isn't the exact same file as is used in the article, but it is a shortened version for use in DYK. matt (talk) 12:03, 13 April 2011 (UTC)Changed original. matt (talk) 10:22, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Orthotonics
- ... that music writer Piero Scaruffi called the 1980s American experimental rock group the Orthotonics, "one of the most surreal and unpredictable combos of the era"?
- ALT1:... that music writer Piero Scaruffi said that the Orthotonics were an important link between 1970s European and 1990s American progressive music?
- Reviewed: Theodoxus fluviatilis ([32])
Created by Bruce1ee (talk). Self nom at 11:44, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Article creation, article length, hook length and hook sourcing all check out. Prefer the first hook over the alt. Wasted Time R (talk) 04:41, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
J-CATCH
- ... that attack helicopters racked up an impressive 5-to-1 kill ratio over jet fighters during the J-CATCH exercises in the late 1970s?
Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 11:26, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Fred Laycock
- ... that while playing for Barrow, footballer Fred Laycock left the pitch to sign for Nelson before completing the match, and was then fined for representing Barrow while contracted to another club?
- Reviewed: The Redmond Spokesman
Created by BigDom (talk). Self nom at 11:22, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length and date ok, but article doesn't state that Laycock was fined for representing Barrow while contracted to another club – it just says he was fined. I'm sure that's the reason why, but either the article or the hook should be updated based on the source (which I've taken in good faith as it's an offline reference). matt (talk) 11:57, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- I've added the extra info to the article, so it should be fine now. Cheers, BigDom (talk) 15:11, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Taken in AGF, all good to go. matt (talk) 15:50, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Huntsman Marine Science Centre
- ... that the Huntsman Marine Science Centre's Atlantic Reference Centre in St. Andrews, New Brunswick has the largest collection of Atlantic organisms in Canada?
Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 03:01, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Glisachaemus
- Date, length, hook are verified. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:50, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Center Point, Camp County, Texas
- ... that Center Point, Camp County, Texas was settled in 1865 by freed slaves after the Emancipation Proclamation, and is the birthplace of mezzo-soprano Barbara Smith Conrad?
- Reviewed: Phoenix Tower, Chester
Created by Maile66 (talk). Self nom at 01:43, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Date, length and hooked approved. Good to see a decent article on a ghost town rather than the sub stubs we generally have. Can you though add a citation next to the Barbara Smith Conrad just for the sake of the hook? Cheers.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:45, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Not exactly sure what you meant, as there is an inline citation in the article's section about Barbara Smith Conrad, a reference which states where she was born. However, I added that citation also in the lead section where I have stated that's where she was born. Does that take care of what you thought it needed? Maile66 (talk) 11:43, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Riki Papakura
- ... that rugby league club Warrington paid £20 to sign Riki Papakura from New Zealand in 1911?
Created by User:Mattlore (talk). Self nom at 01:28, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- I've formatted the nomination to align with DYK practices (insert wikilinks, target article in bold, unlink title, question mark). The article itself is suitably referenced, new and the hook fact can be AGFed. At 1100B of readable prose, it is too short to meet DYK requirements, though. Schwede66 02:23, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks Schwede, nice to see a familiar face here. Try now - I've expanded it a bit - otherwise I'll have to dig some books up to expand it more. Mattlore (talk) 05:28, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Long enough now (just). There can't be many rugby league players left that you haven't written a bio for, eh? Schwede66 07:49, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Phew! Ah, theres enough out there that could keep me going for a long long long time. Mattlore (talk) 07:54, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Long enough now (just). There can't be many rugby league players left that you haven't written a bio for, eh? Schwede66 07:49, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Madonna (book)
- ... that author Andrew Morton's biography, Madonna, had an initial print run of 500,000 copies, but sold only half this number?
Created by Legolas2186 (talk). Self nom at 10:28, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
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- Ready to go. (BTW, big fan of your work). Jaespinoza (talk) 16:32, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
CTV Building
- ... that more than 100 people died in the CTV Building (ruins pictured)?
- Reviewed: Disorders of consciousness (diff)
- Comment: This building claimed more than half the fatalities of the 2011 Christchurch earthquake. The nomination uses a cropped photo of one of those used in the article to work better with the 100px homepage limitations.
Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 23:17, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go. Perhaps the hook should by more detailed, with link to 2011 Christchurch earthquake. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 18:02, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that more than 100 people died when the CTV Building (ruins pictured) collapsed in the 2011 Christchurch earthquake?
- I have a slight preference for the original hook, as it's shorter, but also more mysterious (as it doesn't give away why the building collapsed). The original hook would work better if published with the image, as that demonstrates that it's a recent as opposed to historic event. Schwede66 22:34, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- OK. Hope you right. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 17:07, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 14
Tomb of Akhethetep and Christine Ziegler
- ... that Christiane Ziegler excavated the Tomb of Akhethetep (pictured) from 1991-1999?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 17:19, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- It is good, but in Tomb of Akhethetep, in section Description first paragraph is unreferenced. You should give also link to the article you reviewed. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 00:03, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Added an img.--Nvvchar. 01:53, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Purgatory Correctional Facility
- ... that the Mormon bigamist Warren Jeffs spent a year in a prison called Purgatory?
Created by Verne Equinox (talk). Self nom at 22:26, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Opsismodysplasia
Dave Liddell
- ... that baseball catcher Dave Liddell got a hit in his only Major League at bat, on the only Major League pitch he faced?
- Reviewed: Steven Hallard, Richard Priestman
Created by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 14:22, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- The hook is awkward and needs revising. Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:24, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT: ... that catcher Dave Liddell faced only one pitch in his Major League career, and got a hit?
Length, date, and hook check out - I'm assuming good faith on the "only one pitch" aspect since it's an offline source. Either hook looks fine to me. First Light (talk) 03:20, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Casa de Mi Padre
- ... that Will Ferrell (pictured) produced and stars in the upcoming Spanish-language comedy film, Casa de Mi Padre, which has been described to be in the style of an overly dramatic telenovela?
- Reviewed: Mancusi v. DeForte
- Comment: Article was developed in userspace but was moved into the mainspace on April 14.
Created by TriiipleThreat (talk). Self nom at 13:00, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Steven Hallard, Richard Priestman
- ... that Steven Hallard and Richard Priestman were part of a team that won Great Britain's first Olympic archery medal for 80 years?
- Reviewed: Joseph Bloomfield Leake ([33])
Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 11:39, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go on both articles. Rlendog (talk) 14:16, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Organocerium chemistry
- ... that organocerium compounds can serve as an "environmentally friendly alternative" to other organometallic reagents?
- Comment: This is my 5th DYK, will review an article after this one.
Created by Mdlevin (talk). Self nom at 04:58, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Looks good to goThelmadatter (talk) 20:59, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
List of sources about claims that Vojsava Kastrioti was Slav
- ... that List of sources about claims that Vojsava Kastrioti was Slav contains overview of sources about claims that Skanderbeg's mother was Slav?
- Reviewed: Winchuck River ([diff])
Created by Antidiskriminator (talk). Self nom at 00:10, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Article is at AfD. Schwede66 01:15, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- I was not notified about AfD according to Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion#Notifying_interested_people. I propose this nomination to wait until decision about AfD is made. I will follow the process and present the information about decision here.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:46, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- The normal DYK convention is that a nomination is on hold while an article goes through an AfD process. When the decision is to keep an article, then things will swing into action here. Schwede66 18:15, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- I was not notified about AfD according to Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion#Notifying_interested_people. I propose this nomination to wait until decision about AfD is made. I will follow the process and present the information about decision here.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:46, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Even if the article is kept, which looks unlikely, there's no content here to make a DYK from. Your proposed hook is a statement about the article, not about the subject - it would be like, instead of saying "most of the remaining redwoods in Oregon are in the Winchuck River watershed," saying "Winchuck River contains a geobox river template." Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:46, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Winchuck River
- ... that most of the remaining redwoods in Oregon are in the Winchuck River watershed?
Created by Finetooth (talk). Self nom at 23:00, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, size and reference OK. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 23:50, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Neil Stevens
- ... that sportswriter Neil Stevens was presented with the Hockey Hall of Fame's Elmer Ferguson Memorial Award in 2008?
- Reviewed: Edward J. Burke ([34])
Created by Giants2008 (talk). Self nom at 22:51, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, size, reference all OK. You could perhaps include the lacrosse award as well, as per ALT1 below, or would that be too long-winded? Struway2 (talk) 09:57, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that sportswriter Neil Stevens was presented with the Hockey Hall of Fame's Elmer Ferguson Memorial Award in 2008, and was inducted to the National Lacrosse League Hall of Fame in the same year?
- The only problem I see with that is that I'm not 100% sure what his induction status is with the NLL Hall of Fame. Their website shows him under "Media Recognition", and not with the yearly classes.[35] Giants2008 (27 and counting) 02:38, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I hadn't grasped the difference. Could word it "and was recognized by" (does it have a "z" in AmEng?), but it's not quite so exciting. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:15, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- The only problem I see with that is that I'm not 100% sure what his induction status is with the NLL Hall of Fame. Their website shows him under "Media Recognition", and not with the yearly classes.[35] Giants2008 (27 and counting) 02:38, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that sportswriter Neil Stevens was presented with the Hockey Hall of Fame's Elmer Ferguson Memorial Award in 2008, and was inducted to the National Lacrosse League Hall of Fame in the same year?
Arroyo Seco, Querétaro
- ... that Arroyo Seco, Querétaro, Mexico is home to the Sótano del Barro, a pit cave which is one of the largest cavities of the world by volume?
5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 18:37, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Celts in Transylvania Thelmadatter (talk) 18:50, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Expansion and date check out, but only source for claim in hook is in Spanish. Is there no English language source for such an amazing fact? -AndrewDressel (talk) 23:48, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Messier 91
... that Messier 91 (pictured) was a missing object in Messier's catalogue until William C. Williams rediscovered it in 1969?
Expanded 5X; from 310 characters of prose to 1955 characters of prose --TitanOne (talk) 14:51, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- date, expansion verified, DYK hook verified. Image license of File:Messier91.jpg verified.
- DYK hook seems to be boring for non-specialist. Many people do not know that Messier have lived in 18th century. I think, that William C. Williams does need to be mentioned in the hook. How about much more simple hook?
- ALT1:
... that the 63 million light-years away galaxy Messier 91 was discovered in the 18th century and rediscovered 188 years later?
--Snek01 (talk) 22:14, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- I agree that ALT1 is much more interesting, and I've struck out the original hook for clarity. Tweaked ALT1 for grammar and added wikilinks. TitanOne, given that you appear to be working on a few of these articles, when they meet DYK requirements, they are automatically no longer stubs. Can you thus please remove the stub tags and reassess them as start class (or at least, remove the stub class there, too, and leave it unassessed for somebody else to deal with it) as part of the nomination process? Schwede66 22:43, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Williams in 1969 only reassigned the discovery date from 1784 to 1781 and discoverer name from Herschel to Messier - I don't think he qualifies as a "rediscoverer" (Herschel does). Perhaps we need another hook. Maybe something quirky about the "bookkeeping" mistake, but at the moment it is poorly sourced and I'm not sure it was actually "bookkeeping" problem. Materialscientist (talk) 05:46, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- To avoid words "rediscover" and exact interval of time, I have tried to formulate ALT2:
- Williams in 1969 only reassigned the discovery date from 1784 to 1781 and discoverer name from Herschel to Messier - I don't think he qualifies as a "rediscoverer" (Herschel does). Perhaps we need another hook. Maybe something quirky about the "bookkeeping" mistake, but at the moment it is poorly sourced and I'm not sure it was actually "bookkeeping" problem. Materialscientist (talk) 05:46, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- I agree that ALT1 is much more interesting, and I've struck out the original hook for clarity. Tweaked ALT1 for grammar and added wikilinks. TitanOne, given that you appear to be working on a few of these articles, when they meet DYK requirements, they are automatically no longer stubs. Can you thus please remove the stub tags and reassess them as start class (or at least, remove the stub class there, too, and leave it unassessed for somebody else to deal with it) as part of the nomination process? Schwede66 22:43, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that the 63 million light-years away galaxy Messier 91 was discovered in the 18th century, but it was added to Messier's catalogue two centuries later?
--Snek01 (talk) 08:38, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- thanks for the clarification guys. I actually like Snek01's alt. --TitanOne (talk) 13:47, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2 is good to go. Schwede66 18:34, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
problems are: (i) long adjective which most people won't grasp (is 63 million ly much or not?) (ii) many people won't know when Messier catalogue was compiled. I would suggest
ALT3: ... that although Charles Messier discovered the galaxy M91 in 1781, it was added to his catalogue only two centuries later? Materialscientist (talk) 00:06, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT3 has shortest (the best) hook and very good wording. Thanks for suggestion. --Snek01 (talk) 21:48, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Jack the Giant Killer (2012 film)
- ... that the upcoming 2012 film, Jack the Giant Killer directed by Bryan Singer is expected to take an adult look at the Jack and the Beanstalk legend?
- Reviewed: Livens Large Gallery Flame Projectors
- Comment: Article was developed in the article incubator but was moved into the mainspace on April 14.
Created by TriiipleThreat (talk). Self nom at 12:50, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Sectoral representation in the House of Representatives of the Philippines
- ... that former presidential son Mikey Arroyo (pictured) currently sits as a sectoral representative of tricycle drivers and security guards in the House of Representatives of the Philippines?
Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 12:09, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Clara Clarita. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 12:26, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- On tricycles, I looked there and I can't find a good enough name for the vehicle as it is used in the Philippines. Sidecar might be a good link. We can ditch that and say he represents security guards. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 14:01, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Clara Clarita
- ... that Sir Winston Churchill's American grandfather paid $125,000 for a new luxury steam yacht, Clara Clarita (pictured), that could only manage a speed of ½ mph (0.8 km/h)?
- Reviewed: Wharton Reef Light
Created by Gatoclass (talk). Self nom at 12:05, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- I can't easily find the fact that it managed a speed of 1/2 mph. I found one stating it ran at 12 mph. I did see "we made one mile and a quarter in just two hours and a half." but this should've been more explicit.–HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 12:25, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- "One mile and a quarter in just two hours and a half" is precisely 1/2 mph. But if you want confirmation, you only have to look at the next reference in line, following the sentence Jerome's account was corroborated by two further letters to the Times, from E. Riggs and Clara Clarita's commander, Captain Alex Smith, which states that the yacht "went at the extraordinary rate of about half a knot", here. Gatoclass (talk) 12:33, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, but like I said it should've more explicit, like "one mile and a quarter in just two hours and a half (1/2 mph)". I reckon most people are not into boat speeds and may not realize that knot is about as equal as 1 mph, nor do they have to mentally compute 0.525 mi/2.5 hrs=1/5 mph. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 12:53, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Well, the "half a knot" comment is not included in the article - I used the 1/2 mile per hour statement precisely because far more people know what mph means than knot. In relation to your comment however, I think "one mile and a quarter in just two hours and a half" ought to be perfectly accessible to anyone with even the most rudimentary grasp of arithmetic. Gatoclass (talk) 13:21, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- I'll let others have their take on this. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 13:54, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, I added an explicit reference to "1/2 mph" to the article.[36] Gatoclass (talk) 06:43, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- I'll let others have their take on this. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 13:54, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Well, the "half a knot" comment is not included in the article - I used the 1/2 mile per hour statement precisely because far more people know what mph means than knot. In relation to your comment however, I think "one mile and a quarter in just two hours and a half" ought to be perfectly accessible to anyone with even the most rudimentary grasp of arithmetic. Gatoclass (talk) 13:21, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, but like I said it should've more explicit, like "one mile and a quarter in just two hours and a half (1/2 mph)". I reckon most people are not into boat speeds and may not realize that knot is about as equal as 1 mph, nor do they have to mentally compute 0.525 mi/2.5 hrs=1/5 mph. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 12:53, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- I think this hook is deliberately misleading. The article clearly states that it reached a speed of 12 mph; nowhere does it say that the boat had a maximum speed of 0.5 as the hook implies. BigDom (talk) 15:35, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- The yacht reached a speed of 12 mph after its original engine was replaced. The original engine could only manage a speed of 1/2 mph, when the yacht was new. That is a simple, verifiable statement of fact. Gatoclass (talk) 16:55, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- No it's not a fact, or at least the article doesn't say that it is. The fact that the boat travelled 1.25 miles in 2.5 hours does not mean, in any way, that it reached a maximum speed of 0.5 mph, it means that its average speed was 0.5 mph on that particular voyage. Indeed, it is more than likely that higher speeds were reached that day. There is no evidence that the boat could only manage 0.5 mph. BigDom (talk) 17:18, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- That would have to be about the most pedantic point I have ever encountered on this page. You think the hook is misleading because you can hypothesize that maybe the boat went a fraction faster at some point in its 2 1/2 hour voyage? Please be reasonable. The point is that the engine was a piece of useless junk, if it managed to go at 0.6 mph at some point in its voyage and 0.4 at another, that is hardly a reason to challenge the hook as "misleading". Gatoclass (talk) 18:31, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Most of this discussion could be rendered moot if anyone had considered writing an alt hook, so how about:
- ALT1:... that Sir Winston Churchill's American grandfather paid $125,000 for a new luxury steam yacht, Clara Clarita (pictured), that managed only an average speed of ½ mph (0.8 km/h)? OCNative (talk) 00:48, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- I considered that, but I think it weakens the hook unnecessarily. I don't see any point in quibbling about "average" and "maximum" speeds for a boat that could only manage 1/2 mph. What sort of "maximum" speed worthy of the name would such a boat be capable of? Certainly none of the sources bothered to record one, and the second source states clearly that the boat ""went at the extraordinary rate of about half a knot"[37] - what else needs to be said? Gatoclass (talk) 04:20, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- That would have to be about the most pedantic point I have ever encountered on this page. You think the hook is misleading because you can hypothesize that maybe the boat went a fraction faster at some point in its 2 1/2 hour voyage? Please be reasonable. The point is that the engine was a piece of useless junk, if it managed to go at 0.6 mph at some point in its voyage and 0.4 at another, that is hardly a reason to challenge the hook as "misleading". Gatoclass (talk) 18:31, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- No it's not a fact, or at least the article doesn't say that it is. The fact that the boat travelled 1.25 miles in 2.5 hours does not mean, in any way, that it reached a maximum speed of 0.5 mph, it means that its average speed was 0.5 mph on that particular voyage. Indeed, it is more than likely that higher speeds were reached that day. There is no evidence that the boat could only manage 0.5 mph. BigDom (talk) 17:18, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- The yacht reached a speed of 12 mph after its original engine was replaced. The original engine could only manage a speed of 1/2 mph, when the yacht was new. That is a simple, verifiable statement of fact. Gatoclass (talk) 16:55, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- I think this hook is deliberately misleading. The article clearly states that it reached a speed of 12 mph; nowhere does it say that the boat had a maximum speed of 0.5 as the hook implies. BigDom (talk) 15:35, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Wharton Reef Light
- ... that Wharton Reef Light, now on display at the Townsville Maritime Museum, Queensland, is the only survivor of a series of twenty automatic lighthouses installed from 1913 to the early 1920s?
- Reviewed: Monastery of the Virgins ([38])
Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 10:06, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- The source only states that it was the last such light in operation, not that it is the last surviving example of its type. Gatoclass (talk) 11:59, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know on my user talk page that there is a problem</sarcasm>. This source states very clearly "It is the only survivor of a series of 20 acetylene-burning automatic lights...", and indeed it should have been cited inline. I added it now. --Muhandes (talk) 18:12, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- That looks fine now. Verified. Gatoclass (talk) 18:35, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Monastery of the Virgins
- ... that archaeologists believe they have uncovered the Monastery of the Virgins described in a 6th-century account of Byzantine Jerusalem?
- Reviewed: Hodgen's Cemetery Mound
Created by Poliocretes (talk). Self nom at 09:21, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Size and date check, accepting offline source AGF. Ready to go. --Muhandes (talk) 09:59, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Hodgen's Cemetery Mound
- ... that cranial deformation of a skull enabled archaeologists to identify the Adena as the builders of the Hodgen's Cemetery Mound (pictured) in Tiltonsville, Ohio?
Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 03:40, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date, photo and hook (AGF) verified, ready to go. Poliocretes (talk) 09:12, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
HMS Polyanthus (K47)
- ... that during convoy escort duty in the Battle of the North Atlantic in 1943, HMS Polyanthus (pictured) was sunk by U-952 using new weapons technology?
Created by Leidseplein (talk). Self nom at 04:04, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- With "pictured" and other necessary bits, the hook is over 200 characters. Could you chop something? Nyttend (talk) 04:09, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- now shorter. Leidseplein (talk) 04:17, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- I've trimmed the hook some more and given it a tweak. Gatoclass (talk) 06:28, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Jovan Skerlić.Leidseplein (talk) 04:04, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Gendang beleq
- ... that Gendang beleq (pictured), a music and dance performance popular in Lombok, Indonesia, is so named because it uses two big drums?
created by Awewe (talk). Self nom at 22:02, 14 April 2011 (UTC+8)
- Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. Tweaked hook and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:54, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Honey Bee (Blake Shelton song)
- ... that Rhett Akins was inspired to write Blake Shelton's song "Honey Bee" after reading an article on Mike Huckabee?
Created by TenPoundHammer (talk). Self nom at 02:48, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Amate. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 02:50, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:57, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 15
Vittorio Arrigoni
- ... that pro-Palestinian peace activist Vittorio Arrigoni was hanged in Gaza by an alleged Palestinian terror group?
- Reviewed: have less than 5 DYK
Created by Ittakezou0 (talk). Nominated by ברוקולי (talk) at 20:35, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Lagmann mac Gofraid
- ... that Lagmann mac Gofraid, a late 11th century King of Mann and the Isles, has been labelled as the only known Scot who took part in the First Crusade?
5x expanded by Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk). Self nom at 06:42, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Way over 5x expansion, new enough, AGF offline sources. Nice article! Adabow (talk · contribs) 07:20, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Comesperma sphaerocarpum, Comesperma
- ... that the genus Comesperma contains such plants as the Broom Milkwort (pictured), pink matchheads and love creeper?
Created by Casliber (talk), Poyt448 (talk). Self nom at 10:18, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed Luoji Township Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:18, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- The references checkout great, the hook is good, and Comesperma and Comesperma sphaerocarpum are over 1500 characters. --Kevmin § 16:25, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Betrayal (1929 film)
- ... that the 1929 drama film Betrayal was the last silent film directed by Lewis Milestone and the last silent film performed by Gary Cooper?
- Reviewed #No Me Queda Mas (music video) [39] Schmidt, MICHAEL Q.
Created by MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 06:41, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go. Nice job!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:48, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
International reaction to the demolition of the Babri mosque
- ... that the offices of Air India were attacked as part of the violent reaction to the Babri mosque demolition in Pakistan and Bangladesh?
Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Self nom at 06:33, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Orphans' Decree
- ... that a forced conversion of orphaned non-Muslim children to Islam under Orphans' Decree in Yemen has no "parallel in other countries"?
- Reviewed: ...And the Native Hipsters ([40])
Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 03:23, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Abutilon pitcairnense
- ... that Abutilon pitcairnense was considered extinct for 20 years until a single plant was rediscovered in 2003, which died in a landslide in 2005, but that other plants were propagated from it before it died?
Created by First Light (talk). Self nom at 02:58, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT (1st hook is slightly long, so here's a shorter one): ... that Abutilon pitcairnense is extinct in the wild after the single wild plant died in a landslide in 2005?
- Reviewed: Baltocteniza, Electrocteniza, and final review/ok on Dave Liddell
- Very interesting, references check out, I suggest going with the ALT1 hook.--Kevmin § 16:33, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
SS Ranpura
- ... that the ocean liner SS Ranpura ran aground near Gibraltar on 15 April 1936 while carrying $50 million (1936 dollars) of rare Chinese art?
Created by JKBrooks85 (talk). Self nom at 23:24, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good article. Too bad it happened, though. Buggie111 (talk) 23:52, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Lynn Borden
- ... that after her role in the 1972 horror film Frogs, actress Lynn Borden began collecting frog figurines as a hobby?
- ALT
... that actress Lynn Borden, who appeared in the final season of the Shirley Booth sitcom Hazel, was the 1957 Miss Arizona?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:18, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Dave Liddell : Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:25, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- I think the original hook is the best. Date, length, hook ref all verified. I removed the elephants from the hook, though, because the elephants came first, not the frogs, and it seems to read better without the elephants. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:03, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Amate
- ... that despite being banned by Spanish colonial authorities in Mexico the making of amate or bark paper never disappeared?
5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 20:57, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed organocerium compoundsThelmadatter (talk) 21:00, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 21:55, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
1st Airlanding Brigade (United Kingdom)
- ... that around 252 glider infantry of the 1st Airlanding Brigade were drowned during the Allied invasion of Sicily?
X 5 expansion and self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 15:59, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Douglas 2229 below
- Ready to go. A very interesting article. Harrison49 (talk) 16:16, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Douglas 2229
- ... that when the Douglas 2229 supersonic transport suggested fuel had to be held in the fuselage, a designer sketched a solution with the passengers wearing diving suits, under large signs saying "No Smoking"?
Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 15:14, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go Jim Sweeney (talk) 16:04, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- The hook, at 206 characters, is a little too long, and, more importantly, isn't too clear. It makes me picture the airplane sitting around making suggestions. ALT1 is 197 characters:
- ALT1: ... that after plans for the Douglas 2229 SST had no room for fuel other than in the fuselage, a designer sketched a cartoon with diving suit-clad passengers immersed in fuel, under "No Smoking" signs? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:10, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
...And the Native Hipsters
- ... that even though ...And the Native Hipsters's first single, "There Goes Concorde Again" was initially a 500-copy private release, it went on to reach number five on the UK Indie Charts?
- Reviewed: Foresight Nanotech Institute Feynman Prize ([41])
Created by Bruce1ee (talk). Self nom at 14:07, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- The date, the length and the hook are verified.--Mbz1 (talk) 03:17, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
1893–94 Small Heath F.C. season
- ... that Small Heath F.C. went through the 1893–94 season without drawing a League match?
- ALT1:... that in 1893–94, Small Heath F.C. became the first team to score more than 100 goals in a Football League season?
- Reviewed: Neil Stevens ([42])
- Comment: Moved from userspace on 15 April. Both hooks are stated and ref'd in the second para of the Summary and aftermath section
Created by Struway2 (talk). Self nom at 11:08, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go.
for alt-1 only, which I happen to think is much more interesting anyway.I think alt-1 is the better hook.Although the reference states that there were no draws, there are several in the tables. If the "draws" hook is used, it should be re-worded to note that "without drawing a match" came during regular divisional play and not across all competitions (this isn't readily apparent to non-soccer/football-oriented readers).Cheers. — KV5 • Talk • 17:47, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go.
National Schools of Art, Havana
... that Fidel Castro and Che Guevara, while enjoying a post-revolutionary round of golf at the recently-abandoned Havana country club in 1961, conceptualized a new national art school (school of ballet pictured) to be built right on the course where they were teeing off?
Created by DuendeThumb (talk). Self nom at 00:09, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
* Way more than a 5× expansion, offline source accepted in good faith. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 02:49, 15 April 2011 (UTC)- At 240 characters or 258 with the annotated "pictured", the hook is over the limit of 200. Also, it's unclear to me whether the hook facts are exactly represented in the article, but there is definitely not an inline citation immediately following the hook facts as required by the rules. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 02:43, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Note: I struck the original hook, and TenPoundHammer's comments were self-stuck. I've suggested a 199-character ALT. Other suggestions, of course, are welcome.
- ALT1: ... that Havana's National Schools of Art (school of ballet pictured), conceived by Fidel Castro and Che Guevara, are considered to be among the most outstanding architectural achievements of the Cuban Revolution? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:15, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1 sounds like a good hook to me. It deals more directly with the article's content, though the original (too-long) hook was in fact directly cited in the article (p. 21, Loomis' Revolution of Forms). That said, ALT1 is good User:DuendeThumb —Preceding undated comment added 04:49, 18 April 2011 (UTC).
2011 Cirebon bombing
- ... that most of the victims of 2011 Cirebon bombing were police officers attending Friday prayer?
created by Awewe (talk).
Please proof read as I am NOT a native English sepeaker Self nom at 20:12, 15 April 2011 (UTC+8)
- I did some editing. Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:32, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Andy Hansen
- ... that baseball pitcher Andy Hansen (pictured) earned his first major league victory against the Philadelphia Phillies, the only other major league team for which he would ever play?
Created by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 17:58, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that after signing with the New York Giants baseball team after leaving his high school, pitcher Andy Hansen (pictured) compiled a "sensational" 12–3 record for Bristol at age 18?
- ALT2: ... that Andy Hansen's (pictured) elbow swelled "as big as a football" after a 1950 pitching injury?
- I reviewed 1893–94 Small Heath F.C. season. Also note the merged edit history; this draft has been in my userspace a long time and was recently moved to mainspace over a stub which had been created during the course of my work. — KV5 • Talk • 17:58, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Sourcing checks out. I'm reviewing because I made the semi-complicated move from user sandbox, can absolutely confirm this is all fresh/live text. Went from this to this. Staxringold talkcontribs 19:28, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Two-mass-skate bicycle
- ... that a two-mass-skate bicycle has demonstrated self-stability even though it has minimal gyroscopic effects and does not have positive trail, two features most commonly associated with bike stability?
Created by AndrewDressel (talk). Self nom at 16:12, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Article dates, lengths, and sourcing all look good and hook length is exactly at the limit of 200 characters. There is however no evidence the required review of another person's submission has been performed. --Allen3 talk 20:52, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Ah, a new criteria, as of Feb 1, it seems. Okay then.
- Reviewed #Betrayal (1929 film). Made these edits. Could not find last claim of hook in cited sources, and said so on aricle's talk page. Came back here and found that someone else had already deleted the claim and given it a green light. -AndrewDressel (talk) 22:51, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed #Charles Austin Tweed, but another editor gave it the green light before I could finish. Added year to the hook anyway. Man, this is like playing musical chairs. -AndrewDressel (talk) 23:23, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed #Braeburn Range, made these edits, and pointed out that neither the article itself nor the provided reference support the claim made in the hook. Posted this message on nominators talk page. -AndrewDressel (talk) 15:08, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Looks good to go. --Allen3 talk 17:52, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Battle of Caldera Bay
- ... that the Sinking of the Blanco Encalada was the first successful attack on a ship by a torpedo boat?
- Reviewed: SS Ranpura
Created by Buggie111 (talk). Self nom at 23:52, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 21:41, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
No Me Queda Mas (music video)
- ... that the music video for "No me queda más" was shot in San Antonio's Amtrakrailroad station?
Created by AJona1992 (talk). Self nom at 01:17, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- The hook is cited only to another Wikipedia article,[43] which itself is cited only to Amazon. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 06:37, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- And the problem is? The citation doesn't have an online resource, besides YahooMusic! and imdb, if that's the case: can I just replace them with these? AJona1992 (talk) 12:40, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- I have opened a merge discussion, so please hold this DYK until it is closed. Adabow (talk · contribs) 07:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 16
Mitchell Ayres
- ... that Perry Como's musical conductor, Mitchell Ayres, first worked with the singer on a demo recording of The Chesterfield Supper Club in 1944, but did not join the program until 1948, when he was offered the job during a golf game?
Created by User:We hope (talk). Self nom at 01:44, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Iosif Begun [44]
- length and referencing fine, created 17 not 16 (no problem), but please suggest a less complex hook, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:51, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Stoner v. California
- ... that the U.S. Supreme Court held in Stoner v. California that a hotel clerk cannot give police permission to search a guest's room?
- Reviewed: Liberty Cinema ([45])
- Comment: This is the "straight" version of the hook. For reasons related to the name of the case and some other aspects of it I think it would be fun to run it on Wednesday, and have appropriately listed it below with hooks for that day.
Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 16:55, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Liberty Cinema
- ... that Liberty Cinema in Mumbai got its name as it was built in 1947, the year of Indian Independence?
Created by Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 05:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC). Self nom at 05:28, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length, reference and history verified. Daniel Case (talk) 16:49, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
HMS Diamond (H22)
- ... that the British destroyers HMS Diamond and HMS Wryneck were sunk by German aircraft on 27 April 1941 about four hours after they rescued over 500 troops from a sinking Dutch troopship?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Self nom at 05:02, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Expansion is verified, hook accepted by AGF. Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 22:06, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Commelina cyanea--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 05:02, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Commelina cyanea
- ... that the Australian creeping plant Commelina cyanea (pictured) is known as scurvy weed as early settlers ate it to ward off scurvy?
5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 00:52, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- good to go.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 05:02, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
United States Trust Company theft
- ... that the 1934 United States Trust Company theft was the work of an international gang that stole more than $2 million in multiple robberies?
Created by JKBrooks85 (talk). Self nom at 22:56, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date, and hook all verified. $2 million figure is not explicitly stated, but easily extrapolated by simple math. Nice work. — AlekJDS talk 05:46, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
James Parfitt
- ... that James Parfitt's best bowling in first-class cricket came in his second match, when he claimed seven wickets in the first innings, all bowled?
- Reviewed: Sally Bowles
Created by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 21:44, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Percy Saint
- ... that Louisiana Attorney General Percy Saint in 1929 ruled that impeachment proceedings against Governor Huey Pierce Long, Jr., were constitutional?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:20, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date, hook's ref verified. Just talk page WikiProjects are needed... --WhiteWriter speaks 22:46, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed 2011 Cirebon bombing
Sally Bowles
- ... that Christopher Isherwood named the character Sally Bowles in his novel Goodbye to Berlin after Paul Bowles because he found Bowles attractive?
5x expanded by Harley Hudson (talk). Self nom at 20:53, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Expansion, overall length and date check out, offline reference AGF. Harrias talk 21:38, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Charles Austin Tweed
- ... that a proposal by Republican Charles Austin Tweed allowing California to hire women at the same rate of pay offered to men was defeated by the California State Senate?
- Reviewed: Two-mass-skate bicycle ([47])
Created by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 20:58, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Information and article length checks out. I changed your hook slightly to bring California further up. JKBrooks85 (talk) 23:00, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- A year would be good. I've added one to the hook. -AndrewDressel (talk) 23:03, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Addition of year reverted. As Victuallers once said, "Hooks are like exotic underwear, they shouldn't show everything." The hook was intentionally written to play off of certain widely held assumptions based upon current political dialogs. Adding too much information, like the fact the event occurred in 1870, destroys those assumptions and significantly weakens the hook. --Allen3 talk 01:42, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Alexander (son of Ivan Shishman)
- ... that Alexander, the eldest son of Bulgarian tsar Ivan Shishman, converted to Islam to avoid execution and died as governor of Ottoman Smyrna?
- Reviewed: Timothy E. Gregory
Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 16:17, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go.--Giants27(Contribs|WP:CFL) 23:41, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Jaigarh Fort
- ... that a three month search carried out for treasures by an Army unit at Jaigarh Fort (pictured) in Rajasthan, did not find any treasures?
Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 15:27, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT Hook… that Jaigarh Fort in Rajasthan which was a center of artillery production has the world's largest cannon on wheels, the Jaivana (pictured) on display?
- Reviewed Titan Cup.--Nvvchar. 16:24, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- I copy edited the grammar slightly on the first hook. Harley Hudson (talk) 20:53, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- An interesting article. I Prefer ALT Hook, but why did you attributed this canon to the medieval period? It was manufactured between 1699-1743 - two centuries after mediaeval period. Please explain me. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 22:11, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for your observations. The plaque at the site and other book references attribute it as "Medieval period". However, you are right and I have therefore now deleted the two words now.--Nvvchar. 05:57, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Both hooks are good. I prefer ALT1. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 07:09, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Timothy E. Gregory
- ... that Byzantine historian Timothy E. Gregory served as director of the Ohio State University excavations at Isthmia[disambiguation needed]?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 14:33, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed Betrayal (1929 film)♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:49, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date and hook verified. — Toдor Boжinov — 16:22, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Luoji Township
- ... that in Luoji Township in Yunnan, there are laws against the picking of young matsutake mushrooms smaller than 6cm in diameter?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 13:11, 16 April 2011 (UTC) Reviewed Amate♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:49, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- - I would tweak the hook to state "matsutake mushrooms" in it (as the rules are specific about this fungus)
Sure, although the source which refers to the mushrooms laws doesn't mention Matsutake, just mushroom. I didn't want anybody questioning that..♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:20, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Yes it does. Look in the first sentence "To a matsutake harvester..." and also the discussion under the five laws. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:33, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
matsutake it is then!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:46, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Titan Cup
- ... that despite having won all its round robin matches, South Africa lost to India in the final of the Titan Cup?
Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Self nom at 10:30, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- . Length, hook reference and date verified. good to go.--Nvvchar. 16:22, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Opsismodysplasia
- ... that the bone disease opsismodysplasia was named from the Greek word opsismos meaning "late"?
Created by Rcej (talk). Self nom at 09:04, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- I reviewed Ernst Cadman Colwell. Rcej (Robert) - talk 09:06, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- OK. Published source accepted in good faith. Verne Equinox (talk) 16:34, April 16, 2011 (UTC)
- Its an online source... I had the wrong one cited. All fixed now! :) Rcej (Robert) - talk 06:38, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Semper Fidelis (march)
- ... that John Philip Sousa's (pictured) "Semper Fidelis" is considered to be the official march of the United States Marine Corps?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 05:37, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Fort Center--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:53, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT:... that "Semper Fidelis" by John Philip Sousa (pictured) is regarded as the official march of the United States Marine Corps? Proposed by Moriori (talk) 06:34, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- / I think that the wording of alt1 is better. But why an image of Sousa rather than the sound file of the march itself!? — KV5 • Talk • 16:23, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Braeburn Range
- ... that in New Zealand's Braeburn Range a small population of large carnivorous snails Powelliphanta "Nelson Lakes" is only found above the bush line?
Created by Dramatic (talk). Self nom at 09:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Anthony Sadowski
- Made these changes. Age and size are good. The article, however, does not state that these snails are found only above the bush line, and the provided source states that they are found just below, just above, and at the bush line. -AndrewDressel (talk) 14:58, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- If you re-read the reference, it initially says the "just below, just above and at", but in reference to all three populations (the other two are 10-20 km away). It then says that they have only been found above the bushline on Mount Murchison. Also, I have reverted your change to the reference title: It's a single white paper (distributed online in three parts for size reasons) with a single purpose, and the document title should be used rather than a single chapter heading. dramatic (talk) 17:54, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- When I first looked at the reference, it looked like this, so I did my best to fix it. I'm glad you were able to make it even better. If the snails are only above the bush line on Mount Murchison, then I think the hook should say so. Also, the article does not state that the snails are only found above the bush line. Instead, it states that the area above the bush line on Mount Murchison is one of three isolated habitats. -AndrewDressel (talk) 20:05, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- If you re-read the reference, it initially says the "just below, just above and at", but in reference to all three populations (the other two are 10-20 km away). It then says that they have only been found above the bushline on Mount Murchison. Also, I have reverted your change to the reference title: It's a single white paper (distributed online in three parts for size reasons) with a single purpose, and the document title should be used rather than a single chapter heading. dramatic (talk) 17:54, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 17
De Nederlandse Bachvereniging
- ... that on Good Friday every year since 1922, De Nederlandse Bachvereniging (Netherlands Bach Society) has performed Bach's St Matthew Passion in Naarden (church pictured)?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 07:39, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed: #Mitchell Ayres. - The article is - of course - suggested for Good Friday, 22 April. I took it from the German Wikipedia, which comes without inline citations. The German article is a translation of the Dutch which I can't read. I will work on more refs, any help by people knowing nl is appreciated. The hook fact and many others are supported by the New York Times, and I like the quote (also there) of a Dutch minister: "St. Matthew’ during Holy Week is bigger in the Netherlands than Messiah at Christmas anywhere else." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:59, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Everything is Terrible!
- ... that the creator of "So Your Cat Wants A Massage?", one of the VHS clips posted on the website Everything is Terrible!, appeared as a guest on the Late Show with David Letterman?
Created by MuZemike (talk). Self nom at 06:16, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
ALT 1 (if the first one is a bit too wordy to work):
- ... that clips of VHS tapes from the website Everything is Terrible! include how to massage a cat, an anti-pedophilia yellow dinosaur, and a direct-to-video crime drama featuring Jay Leno?
–MuZemike 06:16, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Hierapolis sawmill. –MuZemike 06:39, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Boston and Montana Consolidated Copper and Silver Mining Company
- ... that in 1889, the Boston and Montana Consolidated Copper and Silver Mining Company agreed to build a smelter in Great Falls, Montana, if a local power company built a dam to supply it with power?
Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 01:07, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Richard Waghorn - Tim1965 (talk) 01:07, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Charles Elliott Perkins
- ... that Charles Elliott Perkins (pictured) was appointed Assistant Treasurer of the Burlington and Missouri River Railroad at the age of 22?
Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 00:51, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Marcos Mateo - Tim1965 (talk) 00:52, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
George B. Jackson
- ... that George B. Jackson, a businessman in San Angelo, Texas, who had been born into slavery in Virginia, was termed "the wealthiest colored man in Texas" in the late 19th century?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 00:32, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Galesburg Station (Santa Fe)
Hal Stalmaster
- ... that Hal Stalmaster landed his role in Disney's 1957 film about the American Revolution, Johnny Tremain, without the help of his brother, casting director Lynn Stalmaster?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 22:21, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: The Rocky Mountains, Lander's Peak
Richard Waghorn
- ... that Richard Waghorn was awarded the Air Force Cross after winning the 1929 Schneider Trophy seaplane race?
- Reviewed: Palaeoperenethis ([48])
Created by MilborneOne (talk). Nominated by E2eamon (talk) at 21:13, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Timeliness of submission, article, length, and hook lenght check out. Online citation is OK. Article is OK for the queue. - Tim1965 (talk) 01:02, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Galesburg Station (Santa Fe)
- ... that the former station house at the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway station in Galesburg, Illinois had two waiting rooms, one for men and one for women?
- ALT1:... that the former station house at the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway depot in Galesburg, Illinois had two waiting rooms, one for men and one for women?
Created by Gfoley4 (talk). Self nom at 20:15, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed James Russell (baseball) [49]
- The hook is off line and presumably checks out, but the title of the article is too misleading to be useful to readers in my opinion. I don't think readers would not associate "Galesburg" with "Santa Fe". Billy Hathorn (talk) 00:37, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- What do you suggest? Something like "Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway Depot (Galesburg, Illinois)"? —GFOLEY FOUR— 03:35, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
The Rocky Mountains, Lander's Peak
- ... that Albert Bierstadt's 1863 painting The Rocky Mountains, Lander's Peak (pictured) is sometimes likened to Frederic Edwin Church's The Heart of the Andes?
- Reviewed Azimzhan Askarov. Lampman (talk) 19:55, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Created by Lampman (talk). Self nom at 19:54, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
James Russell (baseball)
- ... that when he made his major league debut, Chicago Cubs pitcher James Russell became the 97th former Texas Longhorn to play in the major leagues?
- Reviewed: Darryl Richard (actor) ([[50]])
2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Giants27 (talk). Self nom at 19:34, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Fails WP:DYK rule 3—doesn't have an inline citation for the hook. —GFOLEY FOUR— 19:47, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- It does. I mention it first in the lead, but I mention it again in section on his career playing for the Cubs. The reference used is the first one listed.--Giants27(Contribs|WP:CFL) 19:55, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- I see. Good to go. —GFOLEY FOUR— 20:02, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- It does. I mention it first in the lead, but I mention it again in section on his career playing for the Cubs. The reference used is the first one listed.--Giants27(Contribs|WP:CFL) 19:55, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Iosif Begun
- ... that the release from prison of Iosif Begun, a leader of Jewish emigration movement, was announced in 1987 by a Soviet politician Georgy Arbatov on Face the Nation?
Created by Mhym (talk). Self nom at 19:22, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Hook ref was a paywalled news source. Changed it to an archived NYT one. Everything else good. We hope (talk) 02:14, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Tainosia
- ... that the extinct planthopper Tainosia quisqueyae was named for the Taíno people and Hispaniola?
Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 17:33, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Abutilon pitcairnense
- Date and length ok.
Only half of this hook seems to check out from the link provided, however; it confirms that the Taino people are the origin of the name but not Hispaniola. Perhaps the author means "the Taino people of Hispaniola" rather than "and"? If so,I approve.Khazar (talk) 03:02, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Doublechecked this and saw my mistake. The hook is properly sourced, and I just wasn't reading closely enough.Khazar (talk) 03:06, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Palaeoperenethis
- ... that the only known specimen of the extinct spider Palaeoperenethis is in the Royal Ontario Museum?
Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 17:14, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Comesperma sphaerocarpum, Comesperma
- Length and Date fine. The link for the ref is broken, and I will accept on good faith. The link should be fixed, however.--E♴(talk) 21:12, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Tie Me Up! Tie Me Down!
- ... that the film Tie Me Up! Tie Me Down!, directed by Pedro Almodóvar was instrumental in the implementation by the MPAA of a new rating category, NC-17?
5x expanded and sourced by Miguelemejia (talk). Self nom at 13:04, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Ristikontra
- ... that in the Finnish card game Ristikontra, you win a trick by playing another card of the same rank as the first card in the trick?
- Comment: Article is relatively short, but that's in part because the variants section does not count towards article length, and in part because this game is not well documented at all. I can't write much more about the topic without interviewing players or otherwise engaging in OR.
Created by Hans Adler (talk). Self nom at 12:50, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Rewards and Fairies
- ... that Kipling's Rewards and Fairies includes "If—" which has been voted Britain's most popular poem?
Created by Dabbler (talk). Self nom at 12:01, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Nice little article, but too short. It needs to have 1500 characters to qualify for DYK, but only has 481 (excluding references), so will need some extra work.Philipjelley (talk) 13:59, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- The DYK criteria - Long enough says "Articles must have a minimum of 1,500 characters of prose (ignoring infoboxes, categories, references, lists, tables, etc.)" This article has 2844 excluding references and categories. I am including the brief descriptions of each story as they are prose and not organized as a table. Dabbler (talk) 18:58, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry I used wordcount, it should be 2792 charactersPhilipjelley (talk) 19:49, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- No, bullet-pointed lists do not count towards the amount of prose. According to the DYKcheck tool, there are 1017 characters of readable prose so it needs expanding. BigDom (talk) 08:41, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry I used wordcount, it should be 2792 charactersPhilipjelley (talk) 19:49, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
The Experiment (album)
- ... that on his debut album, The Experiment, Dane Rumble (pictured) found it difficult to write his former band's usual hip hop music, so turned to pop rock?
- Reviewed: Lagmann mac Gofraid ([51])
- Comment: There is a closer cropped image if needed.
5x expanded by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 07:30, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Article date, length, and ref all check out. However, the lede could be better sourced (all the refs for this already seem to be in the article). I'll try to do a little of this myself Khazar (talk) 14:25, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you, but I removed per WP:LEADCITE the lead should have fewer/no citations to make it punchier and easier to read. Adabow (talk · contribs) 20:19, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Marcos Mateo
- ... that in his major league debut, Marcos Mateo gave up the winning run in the bottom of the 11th inning on a sacrifice fly?
- Reviewed: Alexander (son of Ivan Shishman) ([[52]])
- Comment: Not sure on the wording. Any suggestions are appreciated.
2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Giants27 (talk). Self nom at 23:44, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT 1: ... that in his Major League Baseball debut, Marcos Mateo came into the game in the 11th inning, loaded the bases, then gave up a sacrifice fly to lose the game? - Tim1965 (talk) 00:36, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Timeliness of submission, article length, and hook length (and ALT 1 hook length) both check out. Online citation OK. Article is OK for the queue. - Tim1965 (talk) 00:36, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Itinerarium Romanum Serbiae
- ... that touristic and archeological project Itinerarium Romanum Serbiae gathers entire Ancient Roman heritage in Serbia?
- ALT1 - ... that 17 Roman emperors where born on the territory of the modern day Serbia, second largest number of Roman emperors from one country, after Italy itself?
- ALT2 - ... that thanks to the Itinerarium Romanum Serbiae project, tourists can visit almost entire Roman heritage of Serbia?
- ALT3 - ... that Itinerarium Romanum Serbiae is a 600 km long touristic tour trough ancient Roman heritage in Serbia?
- Reviewed: Percy Saint (diff)
Created by WhiteWriter (talk). Self nom at 22:30, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- There we go again with the 17 Roman emperors claim... I insist on this being removed from the article, as it is a fork of the deleted List of Roman emperors born on the territory of Republic of Serbia. Here's also my judgement as to why this list of emperors is misleading and poorly sourced: [53] (look for the ‘List of Roman emperors born on the territory of Republic of Serbia’ discussion). I am strongly opposed to featuring this article on DYK as long as it includes unsubstantiated claims about 17/18 Roman emperors being born in Serbia, or the forked list of emperors from the deleted article. — Toдor Boжinov — 13:28, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- All of those sources are fixed. Also, article is heavily sourced, and that list represent only one part of the great Itinerarium Romanum Serbiae project. That former discussion is not useful here, with different subject, sources and all other. Also, i moved it to user space, as that list could not be stand alone article, but in its full content like this, it can. And its not my claim, reliable references are in the article. All claims are referenced, and i hope that you check that first, before you have strongly opposed. --WhiteWriter speaks 21:06, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Regardless of the sourcing concerns above (which I haven't reviewed for), this doesn't meet DYK specs currently anyway, because lists are not part of the prose requirement, and this is mostly a list. You currently have 1396 characters of prose and you need a minimum of 1500. — KV5 • Talk • 01:21, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Azimzhan Askarov
- ... that Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, the Committee to Protect Journalists, and the International Federation for Human Rights have all called for the release of imprisoned Kyrgyzstani activist and journalist Azimzhan Askarov?
- ALT1 - ... that US actor Martin Sheen has advocated on behalf of imprisoned Kyrgyzstani activist and journalist Azimzhan Askarov?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Khazar (talk • contribs) 18:36, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 02:05, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: The Experiment (album)
- Date, length and hook ok. I'd go for ALT1; both the length and the celebrity factor are likely to draw more readers. Lampman (talk) 19:46, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- I agree, ALT1 it is.Khazar (talk) 20:06, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Anthony Sadowski
- ... that Anthony Sadowski, after escaping captivity in the Great Northern War in 1704, came to America and helped Daniel Boone's father found Amity Township, Pennsylvania?
Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 05:38, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: United States Trust Company theft
- Length, reference, date all fine. dramatic (talk) 09:29, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 18
Nilar Thein
- ... that Burmese prisoner of conscience Nilar Thein once evaded police capture by rickshaw taxi?
Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 02:57, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Tainosia. Khazar (talk) 03:03, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Mike Loan
- ... that Mike Loan amassed a career batting average of .500 by hitting safely once in two at-bats in his only career Major League Baseball game?
Created by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 00:48, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed #Semper Fidelis (march). — KV5 • Talk • 00:48, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
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- Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual. Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination, but no more than six weeks before the occasion. April Fools' Day is an exception to these requirements - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.
April 20
Stoner v. California
- ... that in the U.S. Supreme Court case Stoner v. California, Potter Stewart wrote that the police could not depend on their bud, a hotel clerk, to help smoke out a suspected robber?
- ALT1:... that a potter at the U.S. Supreme Court once let off a stoner?
- Reviewed: Liberty Cinema ([54])
- Comment: Why not run this on 4/20? See April 17 for the "straight" version of this. But the timing seems too rich to pass up. ALT1 is the April Fool's-style wording. I suppose we could save it for next year's April Fool's hooks but again, think of the timing, man!
Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 17:04, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- This should be saved for April Fools' Day, dude, because its combination of marijuana-terminology and jokes and your scheduling of it on a marijuana-celebration day do not seem to advance the WP project, imho. Your link to 420 (cannabis culture) was informative to Swedish me. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (Discussion) 00:18, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Better this than something Hitler-related. Daniel Case (talk) 02:01, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
April 21 (Maundy Thursday)
Last Supper in Christian art
- ... Depictions of the Last Supper in Christian art (pictured) date back to early Christianity and can be seen in the Catacombs of Rome?
Created by History2007 (talk). Self nom at 14:04, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
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- Reviewed: Aaiha
- Comment: Here is a Google books link to verify the hook. It is close to Thursday, but if possible, would be suitable for April 21, given the occasion. History2007 (talk) 16:23, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, Ref and Hook all OK, moved to special holding area for Maundy Thursday. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 17:52, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
April 22 (Good Friday)
Jesus at Herod's Court
- ... that the scene of Jesus at Herod's Court (pictured) only appears in the Gospel of Luke?
Created by History2007 (talk). Nominated by LiteralKa (talk) at 17:08, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- Hook fact is uncited in the article. Once an appropriate citation is added, I recommend this article be moved to the Special occasion holding area for a April 22 (Good Friday) appearance. --Allen3 talk 19:29, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- And the Bible passage next to it doesn't count as a citation? LiteralKa (talk) 02:10, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- comment: I hope for someone to go over the prose and improve "... in which Jesus appears before Herod Antipas in Jerusalem, prior to the Crucifixion of Jesus", for example. - "The scene" (in the hook) reads like theater, I would not present that on Good Friday when believers remember facts. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:52, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- I have found a source that says that only Luke talked about it. I also second the motion that it should be held to be used on Good Friday. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 19:59, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- Alt1 ... that Jesus at Herod's Court is only mentioned in the Gospel of Luke?
- How's that as an improved hook? The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 20:03, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- The problem with ALT1 is that multiple Bible commentaries mention the story and thus make the hook technically untrue. I would suggest
- "Appears" is different from "mentioned". LiteralKa (talk) 02:10, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2:... that the gospel account of Jesus at Herod's Court (pictured) only appears in Luke? --Allen3 talk 20:08, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- The problem with ALT1 is that multiple Bible commentaries mention the story and thus make the hook technically untrue. I would suggest
to Alt2. Seems good to me, I think that it is only right that we have at least 1 Christian based DYK on the main page on Good Friday. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 20:13, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- Wow, that happened so fast. I did not know you guys where DYKing this. I only started writing it earlier today & had not checked it. Anyway, I added a more WP:RS source for the suggested hook. As for text improvements, go for it - I wrote it really quickly, so I will leave it to you guys to make it DYK presentable. Cheers. History2007 (talk) 20:13, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- This seems also a bit too fast to me. I would have left it in the suggestion section for more people to watch. The prose still says "Jesus appears ... before the crucifixion of Jesus" (... "before his crucifixion", if at all). For the source: can you get something more reliable then bible study or offline? For the hook: let's assume readers around the globe who don't know what "the Luke" is. Suggestion:
- ALT3:... that of the Four Evangelists, only Luke reported the episode of Jesus at Herod's Court (pictured)?
- Wha does "more reliable than offline" mean? I think you should AGF it, but if you still want to check, there you go. Also this and this. And I think ALT2 works fine, mentioning the Evangelists opens Gospel authorship questions, a Pandora's box that is best left closed on a DYK line on Good Friday. History2007 (talk) 23:04, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- I am not reviewing this, just commenting. Clarifying: "more reliable than bible study" meant one thing, an online source preferable to an offline one another, English is not my first language. If the additional sources are good, insert them in the article, not here, please. - Personally, I know the hook fact from reading the Bible. But Wikipedia needs a source. - I remember a good article on a Christian fact, Circumcision of Christ, if you want a feeling for what can be done in the field. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:10, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- Actually there are three WP:RS references for that fact in the article, as well as the Bible study ref. It is generally hard to find a scholarly book online, unless it is G-books, and those links are not usually used in articles. And above all else, this is a non-controversial fact in that no one has ever written that it appears in two Gospels, because they could not point to the 2nd Gospel. So the three book refs are well within WP:V territory, and that fact is really well referenced by general standards in Wikipedia. History2007 (talk) 09:40, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Halloween
Rhacophorus vampyrus
- ... that the tadpole of the Vampire flying frog Rhacophorus vampyrus has two fang-like hooks in its mouth?
Created by Newone (talk), Ka Faraq Gatri (talk). Nominated by Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) at 14:59, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- Comment If the article meets DYK criteria, suggest moving it to Special Occasions section and keeping for Halloween. The authors of the paper on which this article is substantially based have stated that they intend to publish a separate paper on the tadpoles of this species so the move would also allow time for any material from this paper (assuming it is published in time) to be incorporated. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 16:56, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- That's confirmed. I agree that this should be kept for Halloween, especially as "A detailed description of the new tadpole will be published separately." which might be available by October. It's certainly an early start for the Halloween collection, does anyone think it is a problem to save it until then? SmartSE (talk) 23:41, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- SUPPORT waiting till Halloween, esp. if we can get a good, free picture of the scary tadpoles. --PFHLai (talk) 04:06, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
- I've moved this as there were no objections. If someone wants to make a subpage for it, like we have for April Fools' nominations then feel free. SmartSE (talk) 12:46, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Comment Halloween is just under 10 months away. I can't help thinking that if every vaguely ghoulish or spooky article is saved up that long, it will create a massive backlog (and a precedent for other days). After all, there are only 3-4 sessions of 6 or 7 hooks available for any particular day. Bob talk 22:26, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- Comment I have a raised eyebrow over this. Essentially were promoting an article to DYK, which in over half a year will appear on the main page. Would not this article be substatiannnly different from the one reviewed giving that theres 7+ months between creation and DYK appearance? Ottawa4ever (talk) 15:14, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
- Comment Good points. This article could be significantly different from the one reviewed by 31st October depending on whether or not the group concerned have published their second paper on the species (one which focuses specifically on the unusual tadpoles) by then. As it stands the article was written from all the extant scientific literature on the species (a single paper) and a smattering of popular press coverage (who probably won't ever revisit the species, unless a big deal is made out of the second paper). It is possible someone will re-write the article from the current sources, however, most articles on obscure species (of which this is one) don't have very high edit levels. For comparison, a large number of articles on other species in the same genus were created by Polbot and haven't been significantly altered since their creation in 2007. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 16:14, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for your input. Ive opened a larger discussion here; Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Rhacophorus_vampyrus. Its not just that the article may be different, but also that dyk is in the spirit of new articles or recently expanded ones. As such (I feel) queing an article for 10 months is misleading our readers since it is a violation of both leading principles of dyk. Ottawa4ever (talk) 10:29, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
- Comment Good points. This article could be significantly different from the one reviewed by 31st October depending on whether or not the group concerned have published their second paper on the species (one which focuses specifically on the unusual tadpoles) by then. As it stands the article was written from all the extant scientific literature on the species (a single paper) and a smattering of popular press coverage (who probably won't ever revisit the species, unless a big deal is made out of the second paper). It is possible someone will re-write the article from the current sources, however, most articles on obscure species (of which this is one) don't have very high edit levels. For comparison, a large number of articles on other species in the same genus were created by Polbot and haven't been significantly altered since their creation in 2007. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 16:14, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
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