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Glossary

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  • Blurbs are one-sentence summaries of the news story.
    • Altblurbs, labelled alt1, alt2, etc., are alternative suggestions to cover the same story.
    • A target article, bolded in text, is the focus of the story. Each blurb must have at least one such article, but you may also link non-target articles.
  • Articles in the Ongoing line describe events getting continuous coverage.
  • The Recent deaths (RD) line includes any living thing whose death was recently announced. Consensus may decide to create a blurb for a recent death.

All articles linked in the ITN template must pass our standards of review. They should be up-to-date, demonstrate relevance via good sourcing and have at least an acceptable quality.

Nomination steps

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  • Make sure the item you want to nominate has an article that meets our minimum requirements and contains reliable coverage of a current event you want to create a blurb about. We will not post about events described in an article that fails our quality standards.
  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated). Do not add sections for new dates manually – a bot does that for us each day at midnight (UTC).
  • Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate.
Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready!
  • You may add {{ITN note}} to the target article's talk page to let editors know about your nomination.

The better your article's quality, the better it covers the event and the wider its perceived significance (see WP:ITNSIGNIF for details), the better your chances of getting the blurb posted.

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  • When the article is ready, updated and there is consensus to post, you can mark the item as (Ready). Remove that wording if you feel the article fails any of these necessary criteria.
  • Admins should always separately verify whether these criteria are met before posting blurbs marked (Ready). For more guidance, check WP:ITN/A.
    • If satisfied, change the header to (Posted).
    • Where there is no consensus, or the article's quality remains poor, change the header to (Closed) or (Not posted).
    • Sometimes, editors ask to retract an already-posted nomination because of a fundamental error or because consensus changed. If you feel the community supports this, remove the item and mark the item as (Pulled).

Voicing an opinion on an item

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Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated.

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There are two places where you can request corrections to posted items:

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November 2

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November 2, 2024 (2024-11-02) (Saturday)

November 1

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November 1, 2024 (2024-11-01) (Friday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Law and crime

Politics and elections

RD: Peanut the squirrel

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Article: Peanut the squirrel (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Thriley (talk) 09:36, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Rohit Bal

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Article: Rohit Bal (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News, India Today
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Noted Indian fashion designer. 240F:7A:6253:1:2989:13C5:B09E:2D8A (talk) 06:48, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Novi Sad railway station canopy collapse

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Article: Novi Sad railway station canopy collapse (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Serbia, a roof collapse at the Novi Sad railway station kills fourteen people and injures three others. (Post)
News source(s): WaPo - CNN - BBC
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Nominator's comments: A structural collapse at the Novi Sad railway station has led to 17 casualties. Article is a bit stubby. — Knightoftheswords 04:26, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New Mayan city discovered

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Article: Valeriana (Maya city) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The ancient Maya city of Valeriana, the second-largest in the Yucatán peninsula, is discovered in the Mexican state of Campeche. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ An ancient Maya city, the second-largest in the Yucatán peninsula, is discovered in the Mexican state of Campeche, and is called Valeriana.
News source(s): Der Spiegel
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Nominator's comments: Major archaeological discovery - second-largest Mayan city in the Yucatan, after Calakmul. Discovery was only announced this week. Khuft (talk) 17:21, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak oppose on quality at the moment; everything's sourced but it isn't the length of an ideal ITN entry. Support on notability, as this is about as notable as archaeological discoveries get, in terms of things to be posted to ITN, as far as I'm concerned. Departure– (talk) 17:46, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment only to note this is backed by a peer-review journal article, which is typically a requirement for posting anything from the sciences. --Masem (t) 18:06, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, this is one of these cool science stories that should be featured. Perhaps modify the blurb to reflect the fact that Valeriana is a contemporary name and not the original name of the city (since some more known places actually have original names known). --Tone 19:44, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Quite agree. Have suggested an alt blurb. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:19, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support nice break from politics in ITN. Scuba 20:12, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality I'm not against posting this on its merits, but that's not really a quality article. For one, the peer-reviewed work is published as CC-BY-4.0, meaning we could be adding figures from the paper and more. Further, the news stories on this go into more detail about how this was more "by accident" and by a doctorial student rather than a seasoned professor. The article doesn't get into those parts of the coverage. --Masem (t) 20:59, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per above. The Kip (contribs) 21:59, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on notability, Oppose on quality. Definitely an ITN-worthy event, considering the significance of this discovery and news coverage. However, the article is quite short and needs to be expanded. ArkHyena (it/its) 22:15, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Botswanan general election

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Article: 2024 Botswana general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Umbrella for Democratic Change, led by Duma Boko, wins the most seats in the National Assembly in the 2024 Botswana general election, defeating the Botswana Democratic Party for the first time in the country's history. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In the 2024 Botswana general election, the UDC, led by Duma Boko, wins the a majority in the National Assembly, the first change in government in Botswana's history.
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The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: First change in government in the 58 years of Africa's most successful liberal democracy. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 10:39, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Bibek Debroy

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Article: Bibek Debroy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NDTV
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Chairman Of India PM's Economic Advisory Council. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 07:46, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

October 31

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October 31, 2024 (2024-10-31) (Thursday)

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Business and economy

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Health and environment

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Politics and elections

Science and technology

RD: Greg Hildebrandt

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Article: Brothers Hildebrandt (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Hollywood Reporter
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: With his brother, an major illustrator that did a bunch of famous movie posters (like the original Star Wars one). Note that he and his brother share a page for their bios which makes sense, they had near equivalent careers. Masem (t) 21:03, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Trevor Whymark

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Article: Trevor Whymark (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Ipswich Town striker. 240F:7A:6253:1:C23:A486:F543:2076 (talk) 08:19, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: David Davin-Power

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Article: David Davin-Power (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): RTÉ
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: A little short but well referenced. Needs information about death. Abcmaxx (talk) 08:24, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Masud Ali Khan

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Article: Masud Ali Khan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Daily Star
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Works unreferenced and two citation tags need adressing, otherwise looks fine. Abcmaxx (talk) 08:24, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I'd argue this is a stub, and what little info we do have is uncited. Scuba 15:58, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

October 30

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October 30, 2024 (2024-10-30) (Wednesday)

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Sports

(Posted) RD: Matt Peacock

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Article: Matt Peacock (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article looks good. Updated and well sourced. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:11, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2024 World Series

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Article: 2024 World Series (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In baseball, the Los Angeles Dodgers defeat the New York Yankees to win the World Series (MVP Freddie Freeman pictured). (Post)
News source(s): [1]
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The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 03:55, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Tahar Zbiri

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Article: Tahar Zbiri (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Radio Algerie
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article looks good. Updated and well sourced. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Gang war in Haiti

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Consensus will not develop to post. Stephen 02:42, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article: Gang war in Haiti (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
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Article needs updating
Nominator's comments: "This is effectively a civil war". Article needs updating with the 2024 Pont-Sondé attack and the recent attacks in Port-au-Prince. Abcmaxx (talk) 07:14, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While yes, this is ongoing, the problem is that the article is seeing very little updates and, as the nominator points out, the recent major developments are not covered yet. Articles in ongoing need to be constantly updated. Tone 09:54, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose based on lack of media coverage. –DMartin 07:32, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

2024 Indian bomb hoaxes

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Article: 2024 Indian bomb hoaxes (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Over 100 flights across Indian airlines received bomb threats on Tuesday, adding to over 510 hoax threats in 16 days, mostly via social media (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ 2024 Indian bomb hoaxes, 510+ hoax threats in 16 days
Alternative blurb II: ​ Over 500 hoax bomb threats target Indian airlines.
News source(s): CNN The Guardian BBC NBC NewsAl Jazeera Times of india
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Article needs updating

 Spworld2 (talk) 06:00, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment This may be better for ongoing. I'll make an altblurb here, though. Departure– (talk) 13:57, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Yeah, seeing as this is since April, I strongly suggest this goes into ongoing instead of getting a blurb. Altblurb 2 proposed. Departure– (talk) 13:59, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again, ongoing is for stories where there is near daily news updates, not simply because an event has has a long tail. The dates on the target page suggest there were only a few bursts of activity related to these threats and thus fails the idea of near daily coverage. — Masem (t) 14:16, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This is definitely worth getting a blurb at least. Manumaker08 (talk) 17:00, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The incidents seem too disparate and include routine vandalism that we see all the time on Wikipedia. We need some long-term statistics and analysis to understand how this compares with the usual background noise. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:33, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The included news sources make it clear that this is highly unusual and increased significantly in recent weeks, and not "usual background noise" or "disparate and include routine vandalism". Tube·of·Light 04:07, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose glancing over the issue, there seems to be no connection between the various bomb threats. Other than a chunk of them being students... from different schools across the country. Yes there are an abnormal amount of bomb threats, but as far as I can see it's not because there is a concerted effort by a single group. Scuba 15:57, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) 2024 Cuba blackouts and the United States embargo against Cuba

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Consensus will not develop to repost. Stephen 02:41, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article: 2024 Cuba blackouts (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ After 8 days nationwide blackouts across Cuba, the UN General Assembly votes 187-2-1 in favour for the 32nd time for a resolution calling the United States to lift its 64-year-long embargo against the country. (Post)
News source(s): UN News Việt Nam News Hindustan Times AP Anadolu Ajansı
Credits:

Article needs updating
Nominator's comments: The blackouts were not precedented and widely reported by the media, however the article definitely needs more expansion. Viva Nicolás (talk) 12:20, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose The blackout article was already posted - albeit for less than 6 hours. Also, a non-binding UN vote isn't enough to force action, especially given it's the 32nd one of this same goal. If the embargo actually gets lifted, that's another story. Departure– (talk) 12:27, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, an UNGA vote calling almost unanimously for the blockade to be lifted every time for half the time this lengthy blockade has been in place should, I think itself, be significant. Viva Nicolás (talk) 12:50, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My nomination of the General Assembly's vote to get Israel to have a ceasefire in Palestine went nowhere a month or so ago, so I wouldn't be so sure about that (as much as I'd wish this was ITN worthy). Departure– (talk) 12:54, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the context of the voting this time should make the blackouts and it newsworthy to readers of this encyclopedia from around the world, who can then draw their own judgement about the situation playing out. Viva Nicolás (talk) 13:04, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment A UN resolution is not the same as the actual lifting. If the US actually did lift it, that would be a key news point. (Also I will point out the story around the blackouts was nominated but I don't think got to the quality needed). --Masem (t) 12:27, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The blackout article was, oddly enough, posed yesterday after the nomination had rolled off the ITN main candidate page. It was up very briefly and was already stale. Departure– (talk) 12:30, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    IMO, the first blurb was not on ITN for nearly long enough for everyone worldwide to see; and furthermore, the protests were very marginal compared to previously, to say the best. Anyhow, this UN vote seems to make a much clearer point to me about the views of the wider world than a small group of loud activists based in Florida that have been washing articles this encyclopedia, mainly related to Cuba & Venezuela, to fit their own views. Viva Nicolás (talk) 12:38, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Discuss content, not contributors, please. If you think there is sock or meat puppetry going on in these topic areas, please present that evidence at appropriate boards. — Masem (t) 13:13, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    OK, will do that after I wake up the next morning in Australia :) Viva Nicolás (talk) 13:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Masem this is not this user’s first time making accusations of bias against them on Wikipedia, and the previous instance went nowhere. The Kip (contribs) 17:56, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose already posted the blackout. Scuba 14:49, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Blackout has already been posted, and the UN vote has not caused the embargo to be lifted. If the embargo is lifted, that would be significant enough for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:16, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

October 29

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October 29, 2024 (2024-10-29) (Tuesday)

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(Posted) October 2024 Spain floods

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Article: October 2024 Spain floods (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Floods in Spain kill over 60 people. (Post)
News source(s): RTÉ
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Article updated

Nominator's comments: Surprised this wasn't nominated already. Sixty dead (at least) by nature in Western Europe is a huge story, particularly in a drier country. I know nothing about natural disasters or other scientific topics so I welcome alternative blurbs Unknown Temptation (talk) 14:15, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support. The disaster has left, at the time of writing, at least 72 dead, many missing, many more displaced and huge property damages. It is at a comparable scale to the very consequential 1957 Valencia flood . Milo8505 (talk) 14:37, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Teri Garr

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Article: Teri Garr (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Masem (t) 17:37, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support. The article is generally well cited, some WP:DRIVEBY tagging isn't good justification to not post it. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 02:19, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It's currently borderline per WP:ITNQUALITY:

    Articles should be well referenced; one or two "citation needed" tags may not hold up an article ... Lists of awards and honors, bibliographies and filmographies and the like should have clear sources.

    —Bagumba (talk) 01:33, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Akua Donkor

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Article: Akua Donkor (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Citinewsroom
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Ghanaian politician who was contesting the 2024 general elections. Heatrave (talk) 12:09, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2021–present Bulgarian political crisis

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Article: 2021–present Bulgarian political crisis (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): Radio Free Europe, TVP World
Credits:

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Given we are unlikely to post October 2024 Bulgarian parliamentary election as it hasn't broken the deadlock, and that we had an almost unprecedented 7 elections in 3 years all resulting in not much progress, perhaps it is worth adding this to ongoing. There is no rule saying that it has to be a military conflict or sporting event to be ongoing, a political crisis can be a good candidate for addition. Most recent election needs adding to the article. Abcmaxx (talk) 11:47, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I concur. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 19:53, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nominator comment if we are going to invoke WP:IAR not posting these elections every 3-6 months or so, then we can use this as a suitable replacement, nowhere does it say we cannot. Whereas we usually expect articles to have ongoing coverage, this firstly isn't impossible to rectify, but also it is only natural that this will get more attention around election time, I think this should be factored in when considering. The article can easily be filled with coalition talks/breakdowns in between elections accordingly and this gets lots and lots of coverage in Bulgaria, despite the election fatigue. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:26, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Masem. A crisis that only merits blurb levels once an election happens twice or so a year is insufficient for ongoing. General elections are ITNR and those should be posted. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:16, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

October 28

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October 28, 2024 (2024-10-28) (Monday)

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Arts and culture

  • A team of archaeologists announce the discovery of more than 6,000 ancient Mayan structures hidden by vegetation in the southeastern Mexican state of Campeche, including a city of pyramids they dubbed Valeriana. (DW)

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports

(Posted) RD: Franz Kamphaus

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Article: Franz Kamphaus (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tagesschau
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

A German bishop who opposed the pope and was a model for humility and serving the community. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:58, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per above. Rynoip (talk) 22:41, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Jamshid Sharmahd

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Article: Jamshid Sharmahd (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deutsche Welle
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: German-Iranian journalist executed in Iran yesterday Zwerg Nase (talk) 14:16, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Article is in good shape. Prodrummer619 (talk) 15:55, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: We say he is a journalist (as does some of the references) but it's not clear what he has written, they seem to be saying his movement's website. He doesn't seem to have ever written for an independent publication. Secretlondon (talk) 10:42, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We should remove "journalist". Grimes2 (talk) 17:43, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support: I did some more cleanup on this. Neutralitytalk 18:04, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Renato Martino

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Article: Renato Martino (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Catholic News Agency, Vatican News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Italian Roman Catholic cardinal. 240F:7A:6253:1:550B:B06A:7D69:455A (talk) 04:01, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apostolic Nuncio section needs more references. Prodrummer619 (talk) 15:58, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Ballon d'Or

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Article: 2024 Ballon d'Or (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In association football, Rodri wins the Ballon d'Or and Aitana Bonmatí wins the Ballon d'Or Feminin. (Post)
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:

 Heatrave (talk) 22:01, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Journalists voting for the "best player" in the world isn't very notable, and there's already criticism that it's not fair to single individuals in a team sport. Furthermore, we already post too many football stories every year so this one is really redundant. This is very similar to the NBA Most Valuable Player, which we've never posted and will probably never do.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:55, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on Quality; article is mostly tables. However, I do find the tepid feeling of ITN towards this award to be odd. Last nominated in 2021 to heavy opposition, and not nominated since. I get the point of opposing individual sporting awards, but soccer/football is the world's largest sport and relevant in discussion in most countries in the world, and the Ballon is the sport's highest honor. I think this is particularly relevant in a sport where there are so many prominent leagues, as most sports the best league's MVP is considered the greatest player, but with soccer, the best player could be in England, France, Germany, Spain, etc. To this end, I do believe this item should merit some discussion, but there should be some expansion of the Ballon article, whether it ends up being the target or not. DarkSide830 (talk) 23:57, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have no issues on notability (it's the lead story on every sports page in Europe, and - especially in Spain - it's a leading news story as well), but the quality is lacking at the moment. Black Kite (talk) 09:07, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support imo one of the most significant ballon d’ors in years. Big news. 27.96.223.193 (talk) 06:56, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose both on principle and quality. We already post at least 7 football stories per year (see WP:ITNR) and I don't think this award is important enough to justify another one. As others have noted, this is a team sport with objective results - a subjective individual award isn't as important as the outcomes of actual tournaments. Also, the article is in a terrible shape - purely tables and a short paragraph about Real Madrid(!). Modest Genius talk 14:02, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Paul Morrissey

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Article: Paul Morrissey (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American film director known for his early association with Andy Warhol. Thriley (talk) 16:26, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support article has no problems at a glance. Rynoip (talk) 19:45, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

October 27

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October 27, 2024 (2024-10-27) (Sunday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Politics and elections

(Attention Needed) (Ready) RD: Edzard Reuter

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Article: Edzard Reuter (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tagesschau, Bundespräsident
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: CEO Daimler Benz. The article was poorly referenced, I've added a lot. Grimes2 (talk) 15:29, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: John F. Keenan

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Article: John F. Keenan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American judge. Staraction (talk | contribs) 05:27, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Uzbek parliamentary election

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Article: 2024 Uzbek parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Uzbekistan Liberal Democratic Party wins the 2024 Uzbek parliamentary election which was criticized for lack of opposition participation. (Post)
News source(s): [3][4]
Credits:

Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Article needs serious work, but it is ITN/R, the results are in and I added them Scuba 15:05, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Evo Morales assassination attempt

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Editors are clear that this isn't ITN-worthy. Schwede66 08:04, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Evo Morales (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Former Bolivian president Evo Morales (pictured) survives an assassination attempt targeting his vehicle. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Former president of Bolivia, Evo Morales (pictured) survives an assassination attempt targeting his car.
News source(s): BBC News CNN
Credits:

Evo Morales was really popular. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 08:13, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose not enough coverage or content. Scuba 14:47, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Event is not notable enough for an ITN blurb as he is a former president of Bolivia. Also, the section about the assassination attempt itself is far too short. TNM101 (chat) 16:37, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I note that we did post an attempted assassination of a former president not that long ago. However, this entire event has had no casualties of any kind and may in fact just be hearsay, so there's no merit in posting it. GenevieveDEon (talk) 17:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for now. Aside from his own statement, little information is known about this attempted assassination. Additionally, there is no separate article yet for the said attempt; in fact, the specific section in his article is still three sentences long as of this writing. Vida0007 (talk) 01:01, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • A separate article wouldn't necessarily be needed if there was little else to say. We do not need separate event articles for every event (this goes against NOTNEWS) — Masem (t) 01:09, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: It wouldn't be the first time that Evo Morales voices a conspiracy theory of evil people going after him. Unless there are further elements to back this, it's like the kid who cried wolf. Cambalachero (talk) 02:50, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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2024 Asian Netball Championships

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This isn't getting the love. Schwede66 08:02, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: 2024 Asian Netball Championships (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In netball, Singapore win the Asian Netball Championship by defeating Sri Lanka in the final. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In netball, the Asian Netball Championship concludes with Singapore defeating Sri Lanka in the final
News source(s): The Straits Times
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: Singapore won the Asian Netball Championships title after a gap of 10 years and Asian Netball Championships is considered a high-profile tournament in netball after the World Cup. Abishe (talk) 00:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Removed ITN/R label only the World Cup is listed. Abcmaxx (talk) 01:13, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality Article is nowhere close to expected standards to cover a tournament-type event. And given that netball does not have as great a follow as compared to assc. football or cricket, its hard to justify anything else but the ITNR World Cup item. Masem (t) 01:17, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality and notability Very niche single sex sport and this is not the top tier competition in it nor is it a worldwide event. Furthermore the article is very poor quality, short, missing subsections, sections which are just stat dumps, paragraph spacing all over the place, the lead constitutes most of the article, sections are incomplete, no description of the finals and many, many other quality issues. Abcmaxx (talk) 01:20, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment@Abcmaxx: I added the description of the final match. Will address the concerns as per everyone's wishes. Abishe (talk) 02:47, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Not important enough as a sporting event. Tradediatalk 11:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Article and especially the description of the Final fails WP:NPOV. Also not sure about the inclusion of only India and Sri Lanka's squads in the article. Furthermore, as Abcmaxx mentioned, not a top tier competition for a single gender sport and lacks significant mainstream coverage.TNM101 (chat) 14:40, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as far as I can tell this is a regional sporting event which isn't ITN notable. Scuba 15:13, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) 2024 Lithuanian parliamentary election

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Article: 2024 Lithuanian parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Social Democrats, led by Vilija Blinkevičiūtė (pictured), win the Lithuanian parliamentary elections after the second round. (Post)
News source(s): Bloomberg
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Results have been announced. Abcmaxx (talk) 23:51, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support article looks in good shape. Scuba 01:51, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on significance as this will no doubt result in a change in government, with the Social Democrats returning to power after 8 years in opposition. Oppose on quality for now as the article could still do with some work; two sections are orange tagged and the lead is absurdly short for an election article. --Grnrchst (talk) 13:35, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    All these issues have been fixed now. Abcmaxx (talk) 23:15, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Significance is certainly there per WP:ITNELECTIONS, and especially since this is a complete upheaval of the government. As for the article's quality: I took care of one of the two orange-tagged sections mentioned by Grnrchst. I will admit that the article is dominated by tables and numbers, but that is typical for an article on an election. It would be nice to have a bit more prose concerning issues such as the background of the election, the course of the campaign, and stances taken by parties / arguments made in debates. Currently the background section provides an inkling of this, but given that it glosses over "the COVID-19 pandemic in Lithuania, 2020–2021 Belarusian protests and the Belarus–European Union border crisis and the Russian invasion of Ukraine" in one sentence there is definite room for improvement. Overall I'd say the quality is sufficient though. 98.170.164.88 (talk) 18:39, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Admins willing to post ITN: can we post this? Abcmaxx (talk) 22:47, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted I think there's still room for improvement, but after tidying up the lead a bit, I reckon it's good enough. Schwede66 00:22, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Attention needed) October 2024 Bulgarian parliamentary election

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Article: October 2024 Bulgarian parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ GERB–SDS wins the most seats in the October 2024 Bulgarian parliamentary election, however, fails to break the country's long running political deadlock (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ GERB–SDS wins a plurality in the Bulgarian parliamentary election
News source(s): [5] [6]
Credits:

Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Article needs to be updated with results and aftermath. But it is ITN/R. Scuba 19:15, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

altblurb aas succinct.2A00:F3C:A282:0:352B:A597:2C95:67BA (talk) 07:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for now If a government is successfully formed, then I'd support a blurb at a later date. But as of now, unfortunately Bulgaria having another election isn't big news. --Grnrchst (talk) 10:21, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Election results with plurality are not unusual.Sportsnut24 (talk) 11:09, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, but this is the seventh election the country has had in 3 years, because none of them have resulted in the formation of stable governments. If a Bulgarian election results in the formation of a government, that is what would be newsworthy. --Grnrchst (talk) 13:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2024 Japanese general election

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Article: 2024 Japanese general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the 2024 Japanese general election, the LDP-led ruling coalition loses its majority in the House of Representatives. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The long-ruling LDP despite winning the 2024 Japanese general election, loses its majority in the House of Representatives.
News source(s): Reuters, BBC News, FNN, The Guardian
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Updated: now clearly, the LDP-led coalition lost its majority held since 2012 (by NHK Japan) , this election is the most significant Japanese general election in at least 10 years. Haers6120 (talk) 15:25, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: There is already the possibility that the LDP could re-invite some of the independents they removed from the party (Its in many discussions in news sources), which could give them a option of a majority, but all votes need counted to be sure. And both apposing main parties are also likely to attempt to get a majority by trying to work with smaller parties, so this maybe isn't as clear cut as say, 2024 UK general election. TheCorriynial (talk) 17:04, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For sure, it is too early to say that the government formation; nevertheless, it is the first time since the 2012 election that the LDP-led coalition failed to win a comfortable majority in the House of Representatives. Haers6120 (talk) 17:16, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It no longer looks like the LDP have a chance from the ballot box, the current count now has the opposition as crossing the 233 threshold. But, with some off the cuff math, with 22 undeclared seats, and around ten ish independents the LDP could take back, its gonna be a close "win" for either side. TheCorriynial (talk) 17:26, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's why this election is significant :)
By the way, this NHK election portal (although in jp) may provide more up-to-date election result info. Haers6120 (talk) 17:36, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I do think math wise, in the end, even with changes, it will likely lean CDP and all other parties, but it may just be split house. Although, with three seats left, it kinda looks like the final total could be a 214-251, which, even with some flips of independents, would not be enough for LDP to have 233. TheCorriynial (talk) 17:46, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Ishin (JIP) may become the kingmaker. Haers6120 (talk) 18:38, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ishin already said their not going the LDP's way, so likely.... TheCorriynial (talk) 18:48, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's hard to say, given the significant ideological differences between CDP and JIP, the JIP may reverse its decision during the coalition talks. But still we never know. Haers6120 (talk) 18:55, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Point aside, its now pretty clear LDP have lost. TheCorriynial (talk) 18:58, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

October 26

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October 26, 2024 (2024-10-26) (Saturday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Law and crime

Politics and elections

(Posted) RD: Jim Donovan

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Article: Jim Donovan (sportscaster) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American sportscaster. SpencerT•C 04:05, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2024 Georgian parliamentary election

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Article: 2024 Georgian parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The parliamentary election in Georgia results in no clear winner amid allegations of ballot stuffing and voter intimidation. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Georgian Dream wins the parliamentary election in Georgia amidst allegations of voting irregularities.
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: The most important election in the nation's history and key turning point. Everyone has declared themselves the winner, increasingly quite clear the vote wasn't entirely fair which was expected given the ruling party's past comments and links to Russia. Abcmaxx (talk) 21:45, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose on quality as the more you scroll down into the page the more unsourced paragraphs you see, especially in lines describing the parties themselves. Maybe some of them would be better off as excerpts? GeorgeMemulous (talk) 21:52, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I only see a few citation needed tags though? It looks well sourced to me but it is a long article. Abcmaxx (talk) 21:58, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For instance check the Labour Party section towards the end. It's got only a single source, less than what I would consider ideal for a current election article. On other aspects of quality though it's looking good with 284 sources and plenty of prose. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 22:06, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There will be protests tomorrow (today), nevertheless with over 90% counted, GD has won. It's not gonna be a Moldovan colored revolution like a decade+ ago. Also fitting both get on there. support.Sportsnut24 (talk) 03:45, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Although there are little bit of cn tags, the article is well sourced and well written. I dont think and article with over 200 references is of low quality, comparing to just 6 cn tags. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 11:41, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have improved the cn tags now. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 14:10, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, quite an important election regionally and geopolitically. Article good enough. Nsk92 (talk) 12:58, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait if I understand the results right, there's still no clear winner by the counts and that's still happening so an "official" result will be known in a day or so. Of course, one party appears to be claiming victory, another is claiming the election was stolen, and looks like protests are likely. This would also help to expand the results and aftermath sections, which are nowhere close to the quality to capture the confusion in the wake of the election. --Masem (t) 14:19, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Like with any foreign political involvement or electoral fraud cases we may never know the true winner though, so the result is unlikely to be clear regardless of what happens now. If there are widespread protests then it would likely require a separate article anyway, like post-Belarussian elections did. Abcmaxx (talk) 19:12, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There would be an announced winner, though whether that's considered legitimate or not should be discussed should that be an issue, but it's not like, say, 2000 with Bush v Gore holding up the results of the elections. The count needs to be finished and the results announced. If it were a result too close to call, requiring further vote counting or secondary elections, that would be a story. But it still seems that the vote counting is still ongoing, its too close for anyone to neutrally be declared a winner. — Masem (t) 20:29, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    We always accept the results announced by the official authority, which, in this case, is the Central Election Commission (CEC). If the results were falsified and the election was stolen, the CEC should take appropriate actions. What the international community thinks is completely irrelevant as this election is an internal affair of Georgia. At the end of the day, the Georgian state authorities decide whether the country will move in a pro-Western or pro-Russian direction. Our business here is to post the election results per ITN/R. I personally don’t care what’s their choice as it doesn’t affect me too much. I visited the country last year, and it’s really very beautiful with rich culture, majestic landscapes and very delicious cuisine.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 22:22, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support regardless of if the (clearly faked) results are challenged, this is the result of the election. We posted the Russian election, no reason why we wouldn't post this either. Ensuing protests can be their own blurb later down the road. Scuba 19:11, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment With 99.96% of the votes counted, Georgian Dream won 89 out of 150 seats in the Georgian parliament. How does this suggest that there’s no clear winner?--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 22:03, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The vote wasn't fair and hasn't been accepted by election observers nor the opposition when there are different voting outcomes claimed by pretty much everyone involved. Abcmaxx (talk) 23:27, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As I mentioned in my comment above, we accept the results announced by the election authority (in this case, the Central Election Commission), not what the opposition or the international observers say, and this is exactly what is used in the article’s infobox and body. If there’s a more reliable vote counter, it should be in the article.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 23:45, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support and added altblurb. Georgian Dream seems to be the winner, but noted that the election is in dispute. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 01:26, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Needs attention) Israel strikes Iran

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Article: October 2024 Israeli strikes on Iran (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Israel launches missile strikes across Iran in retaliation for earlier Iranian strikes in Israel this month. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Israel conducts air strikes in western Iran in retaliation for Iranian strikes on Israel earlier this month.
News source(s): https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/israel-iran-strike-retaliation-live-updates-rcna177303
Credits:

Another development in the Iran - Israel proxy conflict. Not so much proxy any more, however. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 00:46, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wait, lean oppose. This isn't the first time Israel attacked Iran this year, and that time proved to be bloodless. We shouldn't promote this unless if Israel does a full scale invasion of Iran or vice versa. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 00:50, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Islamic Republic in Iran also lunched more than one bloodless missle attack on Israel and we did cover them both times, why the second Israeli attack is less important? This is acctually the first time in the history that Israel lunched a major scale, direct attack on Iranian soil. 3000MAX (talk) 01:39, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes it was the the first. That alone makes it notable. 'supportSportsnut24 (talk) 03:41, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait there are reports that there are more attacks ongoing. We should wait until the strikes are over and see the damage. If there are widespread attacks or attacks on important targets, we should post, but otherwise, we should consider taking Israel-Hamas+Hezbollah off of Ongoing and put in Iran-Israel proxy conflict Personisinsterest (talk) 02:00, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait and see what develops. It's too soon to write an article while information is so thin. Jehochman Talk 02:04, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: The most sustained attack the Islamic Republic of Iran has come under since the Iran-Iraq War, and a major news story. The article has been fleshed out substantially since the earlier votes to 'wait'. ENEvery (talk) 16:49, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose This is just the latest operation in a conflict that has been hot for a year now. The blurb gets it wrong because it talks of missile strikes rather than air strikes. And the article has a big section about a supposed intelligence leak with zero citations. It doesn't appear that today's operation is anything special -- just some softening up -- and so it's best left to Ongoing. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:37, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Comment: Air strikes can be carried out with missiles, and it's my understanding that these strikes were; but perhaps the blurb should just be rewritten rather? ENEvery (talk) 19:11, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The article says "over 100 aircraft, including F-35 Lightning II "Adir" stealth fighters, traveled roughly 2,000 kilometres (1,200 mi) for the attack, deploying heavy munitions ... followed by a second wave of drone strikes targeting the Parchin military complex on Tehran's outskirts". There's no mention of Israel specifically using missiles. The blurb should summarise the article, not get creative. Andrew🐉(talk) 23:08, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Respectfully disagree with Andrew. Iran has put out a statement that it will have "no limits" or safety guards in response to what it views as a major escalation by Israel (with no comment whether that is a fair assessment or not). It is a major escalation between two nuclear powers. To torpedo the nomination because it is a "hot" conflict is circular logic... "hot" topics and "hot" conflicts are what make global news headlines. That's precisely the reason it belongs on ITN. FlipandFlopped ツ 17:41, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Iran said this was a major escalation? The article currently says almost the opposite. Bitspectator ⛩️ 19:13, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have to agree with Bitspectator. Iran's argument is the opposite: that it was a minor assault that barely affected Iran's military. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:40, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It was highly restrained and minor. Nevertheless, as the first official attack that is notable.Sportsnut24 (talk) 03:42, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. There are military casualties, there may be answer and far going consequences. BilboBeggins (talk) 11:06, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Suggestion and comment: Change wording of blurb from "missile strikes" to "air strikes". I've already indicated my support for posting this on ITN, but I'm unsure of the correct protocol for editing the blurb. May I edit it myself, or is that the nominator's prerogative? This story is already nearly two days old; considering both previous direct attacks by Iran on Israel, and Israel's previous attack on Iran, made it to ITN rather quickly, it seems strange that this much more major attack is still languishing here in nominations. ENEvery (talk) 12:58, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - there's nothing unusual about this anymore. Perhaps a single ongoing for the various wars between Iran plus proxies against Isreal. No prejudice raising this again if one side uses nukes. Nfitz (talk) 19:50, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    it is the first attack on Iranian soul after more then 35 years by a foreign state, the first time that Israel attack Iran in the history. The fitst time that iran's official army face casualties in its conflict against Israel. 3000MAX (talk) 22:52, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Israel has killed or wounded quite a few Islamic Revolutionary Guards in Syria, but yeah, two out of three elements ain't routine. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:46, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Iran. They have never attacked Iran before.Sportsnut24 (talk) 11:11, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Israel's "liberated" Iranian souls from Iranian soil before, but this is the first time (that I remember) an official confirmation or denial. InedibleHulk (talk) 11:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support This is of the same level of importance as other similar events that we blurbed in the past. Tradediatalk 11:21, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Article of adequate quality and depth; first direct Israeli attack on Iran. SpencerT•C 06:50, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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