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August 10

Portal:Current events/2021 August 10

August 10, 2021 (2021-08-10) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks War in Afghanistan Taliban insurgency 2021 Taliban offensive The Taliban tightens its grip in many districts and cities in northern Afghanistan as Afghan President Ashraf Ghani calls on local militias to fight the armed group. Pentagon spokesman John Kirby says that the United States is willing to continue their airstrike campaign against the Taliban but warned that "it is up to the Afghan government to defend themselves" and also added that "it is their struggle". (Reuters) Afghan President Ashraf Ghani says he views peace talks with the Taliban as concluded and unsuccessful, and anticipates a civil war. (Stars and Stripes) The Taliban captures the city of Farah, the capital of the southwestern Farah Province, as well as the city of Puli Khumri, the capital of the northern Baghlan Province. These are the seventh and eighth provincial capitals to fall under Taliban control in the past five days. (Al Jazeera) 2007 Bagram Airfield bombing A report published from the Afghanistan Papers by The Washington Post journalist Craig Whitlock accuses former U.S. President George W. Bush and his administration of lying about the Taliban attempting to kill former U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney during a 2007 attack on the Bagram Airfield base. (The Daily Beast) Tigray War Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed calls on "all eligible citizens" to join the armed forces to "stop the Tigray forces once and for all" and for all Ethiopians to "show patriotism" in this moment. Abiy had promised a swift victory when the war broke out in late 2020, but this changed in June when Tigrayan forces recaptured the region and advanced further into other regions. (Al Jazeera) Disasters and accidents 2021 Algeria wildfires Wildfires continue in Tizi Ouzou Province, Algeria, killing 25 soldiers during rescue operations and 10 more civilians, bringing the death toll to 42. (Al Jazeera) International seafood company Grieg Seafood announces that it has accidentally dumped 4,000 gallons of chlorine in a Norwegian fjord, killing approx. 96,000 fish. The company apologizes and says it will handle the cleanup. (CBS News) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Bangladesh, COVID-19 vaccination in Bangladesh Bangladesh begins to vaccinate Rohingya refugees in 34 camps in Cox’s Bazar district which borders Myanmar as the increase in the number of COVID-19 cases poses health risks in the camps where more than one million refugees are living. (Associated Press) COVID-19 pandemic in East Timor East Timor reports its first community transmitted cases of the SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant in 12 samples from the Ermera region. (U.S. News & World Report) COVID-19 pandemic in Malaysia Malaysia eases its COVID-19-related restrictions for people who have been fully vaccinated against COVID-19 in eight states where the number of cases have been declined that allow people to cross-border travel, play individual outdoor sports, and eat at restaurants. The government also eases the 14-day home quarantine for fully vaccinated people and allow married couple to cross state borders to meet their spouses regardless of their state. (The Jakarta Post) COVID-19 pandemic in Singapore Singapore begins to ease some social distancing measures and allows indoor dining to resume at food and beverage establishments and increases the maximum group size to five people for those who have been fully vaccinated or who have recovered from COVID-19. However, unvaccinated people are only allowed to dine in groups of up to two people at coffee shops and hawker centres. (Today) COVID-19 pandemic in Thailand Thailand reports a record 235 deaths from COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide death toll to 6,588. (Bangkok Post) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Germany Chancellor Angela Merkel and leaders of 16 German states agree to phase out free COVID-19 testing for citizens beginning on October 11 and will begin requiring non-vaccinated people to show a negative test result to enter certain indoor venues as well as to attend cultural, sport, and entertainment events once the infection rate in a region reaches 35 per 100,000 people unless they have recovered from COVID-19 in order to pressure people to get vaccinated. (The Guardian) COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom The United Kingdom reports 146 deaths from COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, which is the highest single-day total of deaths since March 12. (Sky News) COVID-19 pandemic in Fiji Fiji surpasses 300 deaths from COVID-19. (RNZ International) COVID-19 pandemic in Martinique The French overseas department of Martinique enters a three-week strict lockdown that closes all non-essential shops as well as hotels and cultural and leisure venues such as beaches in order to reduce the spread of COVID-19. Residents must also restrict their movement to within 1 km (0.62 mi) from their homes. (Radio France Internationale) COVID-19 pandemic in the United States The U.S. surpasses 36 million cases of COVID-19. (KIRO-TV) Law and crime Capital punishment in China A court in China upholds the death sentence of a Canadian man convicted of drug smuggling. The man, originally sentenced to 15 years imprisonment, had his sentence upgraded on appeal. Canadian authorities say that the sentence is in retaliation for the arrest of Meng Wanzhou, the CFO of Huawei, in Vancouver in 2018. (Deutsche Welle) Russian authorities open a criminal investigation into Leonid Volkov and Ivan Zhdanov, two prominent allies of incarcerated activist Alexei Navalny, for raising funds for a banned political network. It is the first investigation of its kind on Navalny's allies. (Reuters) Voting rights in the United States Texas House Speaker Dade Phelan signs 52 arrest warrants for Democratic lawmakers who broke quorum to stop the passing of legislation that would limit voting access for some citizens. (KSAT-TV) Politics and elections Andrew Cuomo sexual harassment allegations Andrew Cuomo announces his resignation as Governor of New York following allegations of sexual harassment, as well as an investigatory report by New York Attorney General Letitia James which stated that Cuomo sexually harassed 11 women during his time in office. Cuomo's resignation will take effect on August 24 and he will be succeeded by Lieutenant Governor Kathy Hochul, who will become the first woman to serve as Governor of New York. (NBC News) The Polish coalition government collapses after Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki dismissed deputy prime minister Jarosław Gowin, who is leading the governing party partner Agreement motivated by disagreements with fiscal policy and a controversial media law. (Politico Europe) The U.S. Senate passes a bipartisan $1 trillion infrastructure bill, featuring provisions for broadband access, clean water, electric grid renewal, transportation and road proposals. (Reuters) Science and technology Climate change in Tunisia Twitter temporarily suspends the account of U.S. Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene for spreading misinformation regarding vaccines and face masks. (CNN Business)

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August 9

Portal:Current events/2021 August 9

August 9, 2021 (2021-08-09) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Taliban insurgency 2021 Taliban offensive The Taliban captures Samangan (Aibak), the provincial capital of Samangan Province, making it the sixth capture of a provincial capital by the Islamist group in the past four days. (Al Jazeera) The Afghan National Security Forces launch a counter-offensive, in an attempt to retake Kunduz, which was captured by the Taliban yesterday. Heavy fighting is reported elsewhere in the northern part of the country, where the Islamist group has launched an offensive. Civilians flee Kunduz, trying to reach Kabul as there are conflicting reports as to who is responsible for dozens of civilian casualties. (Reuters) 17 October Revolution Violence occurs in Lebanon due to the severe fuel shortages that are affecting the country, leaving three people dead. (Al Jazeera) Disasters and accidents 2021 Algeria wildfires Seven people are killed and two others are injured by wildfires in Tizi Ouzou Province, Algeria. (Al Jazeera) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in France France begins to require people who want to enter shopping centres, cafés, restaurants, or travel by long-distance bus, train, and airplane, to show a health pass generated by a QR code, which contains either proof of full vaccination, a negative test result from the previous 72 hours, or that the person has recovered from COVID-19. (France 24) COVID-19 pandemic in Switzerland, COVID-19 vaccination in Switzerland Swissmedic approves the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine for children between the ages of 12 and 17. (Swissinfo) COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom COVID-19 pandemic in Scotland Scotland moves to level zero and removes most of the remaining COVID-19-related restrictions, allowing all hospitality venues, including nightclubs, to reopen at full capacity and to remove most legal social distancing requirements. However, face masks remains mandatory in indoor public settings and on public transport, and must be worn by pupils and teachers at school for the first six weeks of the semester. (BBC News) COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Brunei Brunei reports a record 42 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours after reporting their first local infections in 15 months, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 406. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in Iran Iran reports a record for the second consecutive day of 40,808 new cases and 588 deaths from COVID-19, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 4.199 million and the nationwide death toll to 94,603. (Asharq Al-Aswat) COVID-19 pandemic in Nepal, COVID-19 vaccination in Nepal Nepal begins administering second doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine dose for nearly 1.4 million elderly people following a months-long delay due to India suspending exports of vaccines due to a substantial increase in the number of cases there. The vaccines were donated by Japan and Bhutan. (Radio France Internationale) COVID-19 pandemic in Oceania COVID-19 pandemic in Australia COVID-19 vaccination in Australia The Therapeutic Goods Administration grants provisional approval for the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine, becoming the fourth vaccine to be approved for use in Australia. (The Sydney Morning Herald) COVID-19 pandemic in Palau Palau reaches herd immunity as 80% of its 12-and-over population are vaccinated against COVID-19. Plans to vaccinate teenagers are underway as tourism reopens in the country. (RNZ) COVID-19 pandemic in the United States COVID-19 vaccination in the United States United States Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin announces that all service members will be required to be vaccinated by mid-September. (ABC News) The U.S. CDC announces that 60% of Americans have received their first dose of the COVID-19 vaccine. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in Arkansas Arkansas reports 103 hospitalizations from COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, a new single-day record. (AP) COVID-19 pandemic in Egypt, COVID-19 vaccination in Egypt Egypt receives their first shipment of 261,000 doses of the single-dose Janssen COVID-19 vaccine. (Egypt Independent) Guinea reports West Africa's first death from the Marburg virus after a person died from viral hemorrhagic fever. (AP) International relations COVID-19 pandemic in Canada, Travel restrictions related to the COVID-19 pandemic, Canada–United States relations Canada reopens their border to Americans and permanent residents who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 for non-essential travel. All travellers must present a negative COVID-19 test result from the previous 72 hours in order to enter the country. (MarketWatch) Foreign relations of Nicaragua Nicaragua recalls its ambassadors to Argentina, Mexico, Costa Rica and Colombia for "consultations" after those countries recalled their ambassadors to Nicaragua over a crackdown on the opposition in Nicaragua. (Reuters) Egypt–Russia relations Direct commercial flights between Russia and Egypt resume for the first time since the Metrojet Flight 9268 bombing in 2015, which killed 224 people, most of whom were Russian tourists. A Rossiya Airlines passenger plane landed in Sharm El Sheikh carrying 518 passengers, and was welcomed with a water cannon salute, roses and flags. (Reuters) Law and crime Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot Federal prosecutors say that five men who were accused of plotting to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer also discussed Ohio Governor Mike DeWine as a potential target. (Detroit News) A priest is murdered at a church in Saint-Laurent-sur-Sèvre, France, by the same person who committed the arson at the Nantes Cathedral in July 2020. He is arrested after confessing to the killing. (BBC News) A barely legible letter to Pope Francis regarding the Vatican's financial scandals, which contained three bullets and is believed to have originated from France, is intercepted by postal workers in Peschiera Borromeo, near Milan. The letter is being treated by authorities as a possible death threat against Francis. (Newsweek via MSN) (Euronews) Politics and elections Presidency of Jair Bolsonaro The Brazilian government announces that President Jair Bolsonaro will attend a military parade featuring tanks and armored vehicles in Brasília tomorrow, as a preparation for military exercises. The parade is expected to pass near the National Congress building as a controversial bill reinstating paper ballots and ending electronic voting, which is supported by the government, is set to be voted. As the bill is widely expected not to pass, critics argue that Bolsonaro is using the parade as a show of force and intimidation against the Congress. (Correio Braziliense) (UOL) Science and technology Climate change in the Arctic; 2021 Russian wildfires Smoke from wildfires in Siberia is detected in the Geographic North Pole for the first time in recorded history, according to NASA. The space agency says that as of August 6 "most of Russia" is covered in smoke, while Russia's weather monitoring institute Rosgidromet says that the situation "continues to deteriorate" in the far-eastern Sakha region with around 3.4 million hectares (8.4 million acres) of land currently on fire. (The Guardian)

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RD: Bob Jenkins

Article: Bob Jenkins (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): IndyStar
Credits:

• Nominated by Rawmustard (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: IndyCar and NASCAR lap-by-lap announcer. There's several things needing citations. rawmustard (talk) 22:15, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) IPCC say global warming can be stopped

Article: IPCC Sixth Assessment Report (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The IPCC Sixth Assessment Report says that, if greenhouse gas emissions are halved by 2030 and net zero by 2050, global warming can be stopped. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The IPCC Sixth Assessment Report says that if immediate action is taken to halve greenhouse gas emissions by 2030 and achieve net zero by 2050, climate change can be halted.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change releases the first part of their Sixth Assessment Report, arguing that greenhouse gas emissions must be halved by 2030.
Alternative blurb III: ​ The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change releases the first part of their Sixth Assessment Report, saying that quickly cutting methane emissions would help limit climate change.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change releases the first part of their Sixth Assessment Report, saying that the world is at its hottest for 125 thousand 125,000 years.
Alternative blurb V: ​ The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change releases the first part of their Sixth Assessment Report, saying that the world is at its hottest for 125 thousand 125,000 years, but that we can stop global warming.
Alternative blurb VI: ​ The IPCC Sixth Assessment Report finds that global warming can stop intensifying at x°C if net greenhouse gas emissions are halved by 2030 and reach zero by 2050.
News source(s): BBC, AP, Reuters, dpa, WaPo, LA Times, NYT
Credits:

• Nominated by Chidgk1 (talk · give credit)

Article updated

• Comment. Without actually opposing this, this is just a report detailing a possible outcome if certain things occur; sounds like a lot of WP:CRYSTAL to me. Lots of groups have predictions or projections related to climate change, why should this one be given more weight? 331dot (talk) 08:55, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

good question - answer is because it is a consensus and has been approved by governments Chidgk1 (talk) 09:33, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Governments do not have to approve UN reports; this is a consensus of those writing the report. There are many reports and predictions out there. 331dot (talk) 09:40, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

You are right there are many reports - but for climate change the IPCC ones are by far the most important. The governments approve the summary of each report. Chidgk1 (talk) 10:24, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

331dot now that alternative blurbs have been suggested which are not projections can you support any of them? Chidgk1 (talk) 14:12, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Weak Oppose looks more like a WP:CRYSTAL prediction for me, which the event either can be happen or not happen. 36.69.55.6 (talk) 09:01, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

I am sure there are lots of possible blurbs - I just fancied an optimistic one - please suggest alt blurbs - thanks Chidgk1 (talk) 09:31, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

It's going to happen. WaltCip-(talk) 10:42, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Strong support - this is a major report, already top of news broadcasts in Europe (understandable, perhaps, given Wildfires in southern Turkey and Greece, recent flooding across Germany and Belgium, etc.) However, I would reformulate the proposed headline, which IMO misses the point, namely that major actions are needed in the next two years or we will not be able to stop climate change. (And it's climate change rather than global warming). Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 09:07, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

I have not managed to download it yet so I am not sure it does say we can stop climate change. But everyone please suggest alternative blurbs. Chidgk1 (talk) 09:28, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality article is a stub. If it's that important to be ITN-worthy, there must be much more that can be said about it. Rather than the one line of text suggested for this blurb. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:19, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

I am sure a lot more will be added over the course of the week once the IPCC website manages to cope with the load of people downloading the report. Chidgk1 (talk) 09:24, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

I have added more so have rerated "start class" Chidgk1 (talk) 10:33, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Joseph2302 Now someone else has improved my version can you support one or more blurbs? If not is there another improvement I can make?Chidgk1 (talk) 14:07, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• I'd propose an alternative blurb, somewhat like: The IPCC releases its Sixth Assessment Report, urging the nations to halve the greenhouse gas emissions by 2030. --Tone 09:42, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

I am sure any blurb you guys agree is fine by me. Chidgk1 (talk) 11:04, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

I wouldn't say that, or we'll end up with just "The IPCC releases its Sixth Assessment Report" without any details. WaltCip-(talk) 11:06, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

I retract - I too now see the flaw in altblurb2 so do not support that one. Chidgk1 (talk) 13:12, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support Tone's blurb or something along those lines. Make no mistake that this is of incommensurable importance.--WaltCip-(talk) 10:43, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

  And as per below, I'll get behind altblurb2 at this point. WaltCip-(talk) 12:12, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support in principle, wait for article content. The article is extremely short and needs at least a couple of paragraphs on what the report actually says. The blurb should be short and neutral - I've added alt2. Modest Genius ^talk 11:07, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Now have 2 paras on report content - hope that is enough to start with - expansion continues. Chidgk1 (talk) 11:32, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Much better now, striking my length concerns. Modest Genius ^talk 15:57, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Alt2 looks good to me, better than my own one. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 11:52, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Comment – Monday's lead story on most Eng.-lang. RS sites. – Sca (talk) 12:29, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support either of the first blurbs. The last one is at odds with the role of the IPCC: they don't advice on policy, just on science. They don't argue it must be halved by 2030, but that halving it is in line with internationally agreed warming targets. FemkeMilene (talk) 12:56, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Obviously she means she does not support altblurb2 as I have now added a new last one. Chidgk1 (talk) 13:09, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Comment Given the infrequencies of the IPCCs, I would support posting something about it, but I disgree with the blurb's focus on future action since this has been a message of all prior IPCCs for the most part. I would instead focus on actual findings, such as the average global temperature rsing ~1 degC higher in the last decade. --Masem (t) 13:02, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Don't you find that a bit depressing, whereas actions are more likely to cheer readers? Chidgk1 (talk) 13:06, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

As others have pointed out, the current blurbs focus on CRYSTAL factors, whereas ITN tends to be grounded in what actually happened. Yes, its more depressing, but its also what is been proven true. Again, I support posting something about IPCC as each iteration has been important. Now, that said, you can work in something like both. "The 6th IPCC reports that the Earth's average global temperature rose 1 degC in the last decade, but asserts climate change can still be halted." --Masem (t) 13:13, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

OK have added another alt - that is probably enough from me Chidgk1 (talk) 13:25, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Oh maybe passed blurb limit or I did something wrong as not showing up - anyway you can see by source editing.Chidgk1 (talk) 13:28, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support the original blurb most, but support any blurb except altblurb2 Chidgk1 (talk) 13:33, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

If you're going to put it can be stopped on shouldn't it be worded to make clear that you're still stuck at whatever level it eventually stops at (somewhat above the 2050 level) and it'll take thousands of years to reverse back to normal? Unless the carbon already released is removed by something that doesn't seem to be inventable any time soon or you wait a few thousand years for it to go from air to carbonate seafloor rocks. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 13:57, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

I have probably suggested enough blurbs - feel free to suggest one yourself or support one or moreChidgk1 (talk) 14:01, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

The IPCC Sixth Assessment Report finds that global warming can stop intensifying at 2 (1.5?)°C if net greenhouse gas emissions are halved by 2030 and reach zero by 2050.? Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 15:05, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support-- I am strongly opposed to altblurb2 -- there is no argument to be had here -- its the global consensus, we should be focused on the action required. Sadads (talk) 14:02, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

  What should be isn't a criterion for news value or impact. We're not crusaders here. – Sca (talk) 14:14, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support, the release of the report itself is global, headline news. The article may just about be passable now. I don't think we need analysis in the blurb: The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change releases the first part of their Sixth Assessment Report would be adequate by itself. Alternatively The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change releases the first part of their Sixth Assessment Report detailing the current state of global warming and projections of its future development. --LukeSurl ^t c 14:20, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• WP:CRYSTAL cautions against making predictions of the future in articles, it does not prohibit discussing notable predictions so long as they are clearly discussed in context - which the target article here clearly does. --LukeSurl ^t c 14:25, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:CRYSTAL; also, some (though admittedly not all) supports are RGWy, contrary to our purpose and spirit as encyclopedic.  – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 14:19, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support – On significance. Suggest Alt5: "The Sixth Assessment Report of the IPCC declares that Earth is the hottest it's been in 125,000 years." – Sca (talk) 14:24, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose as WP:CRYSTAL with elements of WP:RGW. 331dot (talk) 14:34, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support This report is in the news, that's not CRYSTAL. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:44, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
  • I don't think the disagreement is about the report's issuance itself. That's clearly in the news. Its just the focus of the blurb on what is definitely a CRYSTAL prediction, which really doesn't work as ITN items based on past nominations. Just having a blurb that issues a statement of the situation tied to the IPCC is sufficient to avoid this problem and cover the story. The article on the 6th IPCC obviously can talk to this prediction, just that it doesn't work well for ITN blurbs. --Masem (t) 14:48, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

    Masem, when top climate scientists issue a report like this, I don't interpret anything that they say as CRYSTAL. I take it as foreknowledge. Posted hook is fine by me. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:25, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

    I agree the hook is a good compromise, but the issue is that we still need to be careful on putting too much weight on forward-thinking steps. Someone brought up RGW and that along with the "if" nature of the statement makes any blurb that said , to an extent "if we took steps now, we can stop climate change" as a bit of scaremongering, which is a bit beyond neutral for ITN. However, a neutral assessment was found with the blurb, noting the changes and that actions to prevent further change have been proposed. --Masem (t) 16:50, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• FWIW, the data for the Summary for Policy Makers (SPM) is released under a CC license, just not the figures themselves - data is located here [1]. Figure SPM.1(b) is the nice telling image of showing the effect of anthropogenic change on temperature and likely could be recreated to use as a figure/image here. --Masem (t) 14:54, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
  • I don't think a graph makes a good image, both for readability purposes as well as simply because data doesn't belong as an image on the Main page (except maybe for DYK).  – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 16:01, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
• Unbelievable - I can't understand the argument that this is WP:CRYSTAL. These are scientists who have made this their life's work and have come out and said, with all credentials and conviction behind them, that this is what is going to happen. What are you waiting for? Someone to take out a thermometer 10 years from now and say "yep, it got 1.5 degrees hotter"?--WaltCip-(talk) 15:36, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

  Indeed. The report is what it is. Whether anyone here agrees with it is totally irrelevant. It's majorly in the news and should go into the box pronto. Period. – Sca (talk) 15:55, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

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I agree, this is nothing to do with WP:CRYSTAL. For a start, much of the report is organising and synthesising measurements that have already been made. The modelling work is explicitly clear on the range of possible outcomes and where the uncertainties lie. This isn't speculation about the future, it's the most authoritative statement for 8 years (since the previous IPCC report) on what is currently known about climate change . Modest Genius ^talk 16:00, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Comment The Czechs have gone for a long one:

Mezivládní panel pro změnu klimatu vydal první část své nové hodnotící zprávy. Uvádí v ní, že lidská činnost prokazatelně způsobila nárůst teploty na Zemi a vedla k menší stabilitě celé planety.

which apparently means:

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has issued the first part of its new assessment report, which states that human activity has demonstrably caused an increase in temperature on Earth and destabilised the entire planet. Chidgk1 (talk) 15:58, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support, but I find the blurb misleading. I read the news differently than what the blurb suggests. We cannot avoid global warming, it's too late for that. What is possible is to avoid truly catastrophic climate change if we are able to cut CO2 emissions as mentioned in the blurb. See here: "The new report also makes clear that the warming we've experienced to date has made changes to many of our planetary support systems that are irreversible on timescales of centuries to millennia. The oceans will continue to warm and become more acidic. Mountain and polar glaciers will continue melting for decades or centuries. "The consequences will continue to get worse for every bit of warming," said Prof Hawkins. "And for many of these consequences, there's no going back."" So, it's like the case of a patient who ignored doctor's advice to stay healthy for too long and now has to undergo quite intrusive medical procedures just to save his life. So, the best prognosis for the patient assuming successful medical treatment is that at he'll survive but in a poorer health condition. Count Iblis (talk) 15:59, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
• Strong support blurb, Alternative blurb or Alternative blurb II--PJ Geest (talk) 15:59, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
•  Posted There appears to be strong consensus for posting this; all of the proposed blurbs, however, seemed rather unencyclopedic for the Main page so I decided to go with one that was more generic, neutral, and hopefully not placing any undue weight on certain sections/findings.  – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 16:07, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

  @John M Wolfson: Good call. I'm happy with the posted blurb. Modest Genius ^talk 16:15, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

  I feel the blurb somewhat misrepresents the report, as this report has been very clear in not framing climate change as a future event but as a current event. We can simplify as "The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change releases the first part of its Sixth Assessment Report, detailing the state of knowledge of climate change and describing its effects." FemkeMilene (talk) 17:45, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Post-posting comment – The blurb strikes me as rather complex. Suggest we shorten and simplify, perhaps as:

"The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change releases the first part of its Sixth Assessment Report, detailing the state of climate change and describing its possible future effects."
– Sca (talk) 16:19, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support Alternative blurb IV, with a typo correction (change "for" to "in"). Alternative II implies that the IPCC is an advocacy organization. Alternative III gives undue weight to methane rather than carbon dioxide. The main blurb and Alternative I say that climate change can be stopped, which is technically correct but probably misleading for the general reader since we are definitely going to get at another approximately .4 degrees of warming. Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 17:53, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

  Do you think blurb IV is better than the currently posted one about possible future effects / the proposed simplification(s). FemkeMilene (talk) 17:57, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

  I think the current blurb is fine as is, which is why I refused to post any of the originally-propsed blurbs. Alt IV gives undue weight to a specific finding and is borderline alarmist.  – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 18:00, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

  I think the current blurb is mostly fine and I do understand that other blurbs may have been unduely highlighting some of the findings. This is sort of what the current blurb does too, by only highlighting possible future effect rather than current effects and known future effects. Why not simplify to 'effects'? FemkeMilene (talk) 18:12, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

  Oh sorry, I didn't notice that something had already been posted. The current blurb looks great, better than Alt IV. Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 18:14, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Post-posting oppose The complete lack of agreement on what blurb should be used demonstrates the reason why this shouldn't be blurbed. A semi-regular report was released. It doesn't tell us anything new, and doesn't suggest anything new that will happen in the future. For one brief glorious moment, a bunch of academics got a boost to their publication stats. Everyone else will see what they want to see for a day, and move on. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 18:15, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Have you noticed whether it's in the NEWS? – Sca (talk) 19:14, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

IPCC reports are rare, the top of the field on climate reports and state of the art, they have to be posted, even if no one can agree on a blurb and it has to default to "the report was released". Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 19:20, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Comment So the blurb is essentially a panel on climate change releases a report on climate change. Great work everyone. Stephen 22:22, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

  Yeah, the final result was a very milquetoast blurb. I'm not very pleased with it. We could have gone with a blurb that succinctly summarized the report and its findings, and that would have been damn well interesting for readers. But Wikipedia is allergic to such bold machinations in the fear that it may fly in the face of WP:NPOV, WP:RGW, WP:NOTADVOCACY, etc.. So we're left with something that basically leaves the average reader questioning what the heck is newsworthy about some stuffy folks in labcoats writing a report about the weather. WaltCip-(talk) 22:38, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

  You're damn right, and especially with such a controversial/politically fraught topic I highly doubt anything else would have flown, certainly none of seven(!) originally proposed.  – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 22:51, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Only controversial in my country full of flat Earthers, Fauci haters, graphene oxide/microscopic tracking chip COVID vaccineists, moon hoaxers, 9/11 truthers, Jewish space lasers and other conspiracy theorists. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 23:13, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Don't forget Canadian brainwave meddling, "we" invented Global Research (the website, not the discipline or way of life). InedibleHulk (talk) 00:35, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

• Post-posting oppose WP:CRYSTAL . Given how politically engaged climate science has become in the West, I wouldn't trust this report either. 212.74.201.233 (talk) 00:04, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

  Your last three !votes on ITN have all been WP:NOTFORUM violations. Stop it. WaltCip-(talk) 00:19, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

  (edit conflict) I mean, the blurb just says the report was published, that's already happened. Your crystal ball work in reverse? On to the reason: wow, you have no idea what you're on about, do you? If this particular group of scientists can't be trusted then the moon could be made of cheese. There's skepticism and then there's choosing to push anything that goes against status quo, and you're doing the latter: look at the sources about news rather than blanket oppose because you personally don't like the subject the news deals with. Kingsif (talk) 00:22, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

• Post-posting support* This has continued to be widely covered in the media. There is no need to remove it. JMonkey2006 (talk) 00:48, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

August 8

Portal:Current events/2021 August 8

August 8, 2021 (2021-08-08) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Mali War Mali attacks At least 51 people are killed as Islamist militants storm three villages in central Mali, near the border with Niger. It is one of the deadliest recent terror attacks in the country against civilians. (Reuters) War in Afghanistan Taliban insurgency 2021 Taliban offensive The Taliban captures the capitals of the Kunduz, Takhar, and Sar-e Pol provinces. In Kunduz, the Taliban seize key government buildings, leaving the government forces only in control of the airport. In Takhar, the Taliban seize Taloqan, and heavy fighting was reported as the Taliban intensifies its offensive in the north. In Sar-e Pol, the Taliban drive government forces out of the main military base. (BBC News) Insurgency in Balochistan Two policemen are killed and 21 more people are wounded as a roadside bombing explode in a street in Quetta, Pakistan, targeting a police mobile van near a hotel. (Al Jazeera) Insurgency in Cabo Delgado Rwandan and Mozambican forces retake the city of Mocímboa da Praia, the last rebel stronghold in Cabo Delgado Province. Rwanda had sent 1,000 troops to help Mozambique fight the Islamist insurgency that began in 2017. (BBC News) Arts and culture Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on religion, Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on Hajj, COVID-19 pandemic in Saudi Arabia The Saudi Arabian government announces that it will begin to allow foreigners who have been vaccinated against COVID-19 to participate in Umrah. Saudi authorities will begin taking travel requests tomorrow. (BBC News) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Bangladesh, COVID-19 vaccination in Bangladesh Bangladesh reports a new single-day record of 2.8 million doses of the COVID-19 vaccine administered as part of a six-day special vaccination campaign, in which 2.7 million people received their first dose of the vaccine. (Anadolu Agency) COVID-19 pandemic in Brunei Brunei closes all place of worships, all leisure facilities including gyms and sport facilities, postpone social events and bans dine in at restaurants for two weeks after the first local COVID-19 cases in 15 months were reported in the country. All educational institutions also have ordered to return to online learning. (The Jakarta Post) COVID-19 pandemic in Iran Iran reports a record of 39,619 new cases and 542 deaths from COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 4,158,729 and the nationwide death toll to 94,015. (Barron's) COVID-19 pandemic in Malaysia Malaysia reports a record 360 deaths from COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide death toll to 10,749. (The Star) COVID-19 pandemic in Vietnam Vietnam reports a record of 9,690 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 210,405. (The Straits Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Oceania COVID-19 pandemic in Australia COVID-19 pandemic in Queensland Cairns and Yarrabah enter a snap three-day lockdown after an "unexpected" case of COVID-19 was reported in a taxi driver from Kanimbla who was infectious in Far North Queensland for 10 days. (ABC News Australia) COVID-19 pandemic in Fiji The Permanent Secretary of Health James Fong announces that the number of COVID-19 infections are continuing to increases in parts of the country, which began with the second wave in April. Fiji is now the hardest-hit country in Oceania and is only second in the number of infections in the region, with the most cases being reported in the U.S. state of Hawaii. (RNZ) COVID-19 pandemic in Tunisia, COVID-19 vaccination in Tunisia Tunisia launches its "open-air" COVID-19 vaccination drive for people over the age of 40 in 300 vaccination centers across the country after six million doses of the vaccine arrived from overseas. (Al Arabiya) COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom, Travel restrictions related to the COVID-19 pandemic The United Kingdom lifts its quarantine requirement for fully vaccinated travellers who are returning from or intend to visit France, due to changes in the 'traffic light' system for international travel that saw the suspension of plans to implement a "watchlist". (BBC News) Law and crime Tech company Alibaba Group fires multiple senior executives who had silenced an internal complaint of rape and had ordered a social media blackout of the complaint (Chinese: 阿里巴巴员工被性侵案). The case shed light on rape in China and exposed the business culture of forcing female employees to act as hostesses to entertain business clients. (The New York Times) Chinese prosecutors file a lawsuit against the tech conglomerate Tencent, alleging that the company's "youth mode" for the WeChat application violates laws protecting minors. Authorities did not specify as to which laws the application violates. (The Verge) Russian opposition activist Lyubov Sobol, a prominent ally of Alexei Navalny, leaves Russia, days after being sentenced to eighteen months of parole-like restrictions. (Reuters) Politics and elections 2021 Myanmar protests Protests against the military government occur across Myanmar in honor of the anniversary of the 8888 Uprising. (Reuters) Sports 2020 Summer Olympics The Summer Olympics officially end in Tokyo with the closing ceremony. The United States won the most medals and also won the most gold medals, with 113 total medals and 39 gold medals. The Olympic Flag is handed over to the Mayor of Paris Anne Hidalgo in preparation for the 2024 Games. (NBC News) 2021 MotoGP World Championship The Styrian Grand Prix is red-flagged in lap 3 after a collision involving Spanish Dani Pedrosa and Italian Lorenzo Savadori that destroyed both motorcycles. (Radio France Internationale)

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RD: Najma Chowdhury

Article: Najma Chowdhury (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Daily Star (Bangladesh)
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Afifa Afrin (talk · give credit) and Ibrahim Husain Meraj (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Bangladeshi Academic. Article is almost there, will require some touches before it can go to homepage / RD. I will work on it later tonight. In case someone wants to get to it before me, please feel free to do so. Edits completed. Article has shaped into a decent C-class biography. Meets hygiene requirements for homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 17:53, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jane Withers

Article: Jane Withers (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article has Good Article status and has been updated. Her death was announced today. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 00:26, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support GA, marking ready. Spencer^T•C 02:27, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
• Posted --PFHLai (talk) 03:50, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. Just because something is a GA, doesn't mean it's automatically eligible. The filmography is largely unreferenced at present.  — Amakuru (talk) 16:56, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

RD: Bill Davis

Article: Bill Davis (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Floydian (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Premier of Ontario from 1971 to 1985. Article needs significant referencing, but hopefully this will get it some attention. Floydian ^τ _¢ 16:26, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

• Comment multiple sections lacking in sourcing- which is a shame, as the first half of the article has good sourcing. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:37, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

  Almost the entire article could be sourced to the Steve Paikan book I've been using for the first few sections. Unfortunately the Google books preview only goes up to page 93, so I'm hoping someone might have digital access to a copy. - Floydian ^τ _¢ 00:39, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

RD: Bobby Bowden

Article: Bobby Bowden (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 16:12, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

• Comment - I'm not seeing sourcing for all that info in the "Head Coaching Record" section at the moment. And "The Bowden Bowl" seems misplaced as a subsection of "Personal life", as it's still related to this football career. Other than that, the article looks good.  — Amakuru (talk) 16:55, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

  Amakuru, sort of fixed. Sports Reference doesn't include his coaching at Howard or South Georgia State for whatever reason. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:22, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

  @Muboshgu: OK, I think I've sourced the other bits. Good to go now, Support. CHeers  — Amakuru (talk) 22:48, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Taliban capture city of Kunduz

Afghan pro-government forces assemble in Jowzjan Province

Article: 2021 Taliban offensive (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Taliban members capture the Afghan city of Kunduz as part of the 2021 Taliban offensive (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Islamist Taliban rebels seize Kunduz and four other provincial capitals in northern Afghanistan.
News source(s): BBC, AP, Reuters, Al Jazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by Count Iblis (talk · give credit)

Article updated

 Count Iblis (talk) 14:15, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Support. Maybe a cropped version of File:Afghan government forces in Jowzjan Province during 2021 Taliban offensive.png could also be used as an image? — Berrely • ^Talk∕_Contribs 14:19, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support article good enough. Kingsif (talk) 14:30, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support - but would like an improved blub, it doesn't really explain unless you know the contents. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:41, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

  updated the blurb a bit — Berrely • ^Talk∕_Contribs 14:47, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support – if fully updated. Favor Alt1, offered above. Provincial capitals captured include Sar-e-Pul, Sheberghan, Zaranj and Taloqan. – Sca (talk) 16:24, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

PS: The pic. suggested above doesn't grab me. – Sca (talk) 16:27, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

@Sca maybe File:Afghan National Army in combat during 2021 offensive 1.png cropped? — Berrely • ^Talk∕_Contribs 17:41, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Somewhat better. Could be cropped a bit. But are there any pix of the Tollyband doing their violent thing? – Sca (talk) 17:51, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose there has been this relentless effort to post the Taliban takeover in Afghanistan. Kunduz is a regional capital 100s of KMs away from Kabul and the media hysteria doesn't make it any less inevitable since Trump surrendered to the Taliban last year. When they take Kabul and assassinate Ghani it'll be time to post. Not now. --LaserLegs (talk) 18:22, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

  Kabul is definitely looking to be the last American stronghold, so I'd support a blurb then. But in a closing ceremony, remove from Ongoing sense. Not because American news likes Kabul better than Kandahar. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:07, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

  When they take Kabul - what if they never do? Never post also? Banedon (talk) 00:28, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

  If they don't, they've either been defeated or made peace, both blurbable endings. If it turns into another stalemate, we can quietly remove it from Ongoing. But it sure doesn't end here and now, big moment or not, so your vote confuses me. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:37, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support If a militia captured Miami after taking over several states in just a few days we wouldn't be thinking twice about posting. Just because it's Afghanistan doesn't make it less relevant. Abcmaxx (talk) 19:21, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

It does a little bit, in the sense that there has been war there for 20 years so it's not comparable to a non-conflict zone effort of the same size. But I still think this is big enough news to overcome that. Kingsif (talk) 20:15, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose Covered in Ongoing. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:37, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose it's already covered in the ongoing section. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:59, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
• Comment I thought the understanding was that items would move out of ongoing when a truly blurb-worthy development occurred, and then moved back. That's what happened with Venezuela last year. Kingsif (talk) 20:17, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

  Extraordinary developments can stand alone. But continually taking back territory is the meat and potatoes of this ongoing story. It'd be like saying four cities (or countries) succumbed to COVID complications, during that overall lengthy drama. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:56, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

• Conditionally support AltBlurb The capture of these provincial capitals seems like a significant development. However, the capture of the capitals should be in the article’s intro. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 21:44, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
• Blurb and remove from ongoing - a notable development. Banedon (talk) 00:28, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb Major development and article in good shape. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 01:04, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
• Wait per the previous nominations. I think we should wait until the Taliban capture either Kandahar city or Kabul. It's just a matter of time, so better to wait until the more significant fall of one of those two largest cities (Kunduz is the sixth largest in Afghanistan). Modest Genius ^talk 11:11, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
• Comment – Sixth provincial capital, Aibak, seized. [2] BBC headline: "How the Taliban retook half of Afghanistan" [3] Wide coverage. [4] – Sca (talk) 12:37, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. This story is in Ongoing already, and the whole point of Ongoing is that we don't blurb the individual developments. If they take Kabul, then I'll think differently, but we're not going to blurb all the provincial capitals one by one.  — Amakuru (talk) 16:50, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per Amakuru.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 17:36, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

2021 Lithuanian migrant crisis

Article: 2021 Lithuanian migrant crisis (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Thousands of migrants surge into the EU from Belarus amidst the 2021 Lithuanian migrant crisis. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Illegal crossings of the Belarus-Lithuania border surge due to the 2021 Lithuanian migrant crisis.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Lithuania is facing a surge of illegal migrants from Belarus as part of the 2021 Lithuanian migrant crisis
News source(s): The Washington Post The Independent Reuters The New York Times BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Mindaur (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: I included the blurb as IMO this certainly deserves to be in the news, but I also propose to consider this item as ongoing. This topic has been appearing in the international news since early July. In addition to the sources listed in the proposal (a few latest and couple older), you can find more in the references of the article or just by searching the news. Also, unfortunately I could not provide a better associative image. There are plenty of good photos in the media showing the events more "in-action", but I couldn't find any free/non-copyrighted which we could upload to Wikimedia. Mindaur (talk) 14:07, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

• Is it just Lithuania? Poland says they've been sent migrants from Belarus as retribution for supporting Krystsina Tsimanouskaya. Anyway, the blurb feels back-heavy to me but I can't think of a way to rephrase it? Kingsif (talk) 14:29, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

I think for now it's fair/representative to keep the title as is: the number of illegal crossing to Lithuania is over 4000 in the recent months, while Latvia and Poland reported only dozens, so it's not (yet) a significant increase. However, the situation is still developing and if there will be substantial numbers of migrants reported by other countries, then we will have to re-think the title.. but I think we are just not quite there yet. --Mindaur (talk) 15:53, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Poland reported only dozens - over 500, but not a good argument anyway (see below). Kingsif (talk) 20:35, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Comment – Should include a section on migrants fleeing Belarus for Poland. – Sca (talk) 16:30, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

  The article contains a section about Poland. I just added a reference with some numbers, but as per my comment above -- they still seem to be significantly below the crossings into Lithuania. --Mindaur (talk) 17:20, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

  Reply here also for above: if you want to look at this in terms of absolute numbers, Lithuania's are low compared to other migration and it won't get posted. The story that's in the news, and relevant here, is that the increase (%age) in migrants is an unprecedented surge, and is caused by deteriorating relations with Lukashenko. And the same is also true for Poland. IMO neither or both. Kingsif (talk) 20:35, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

  Sure, as I said elsehwere -- it's not about the absolute numbers. It's about an unprecedented state-sponsored human trafficking. I am not very creative with blurbs, but I can propose more alternatives; feel free to beat me on this. --Mindaur (talk) 22:16, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose Do you even understand how many migrants cross the US-Mexican border every well? How many travel through the mediterrenean every month? Hint: way more than did on this small stretch of Belarussian-lithuanian border 212.74.201.233 (talk) 16:58, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

  Been going on for years. Belarus is a current political crisis. – Sca (talk) 17:08, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

  Irrelevant; your comment seems to be a case of whataboutism. --Mindaur (talk) 17:20, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

  I've never ever seen an intelligent person accuse others of whataboutism. Probably because invoking it is in and on itself a logical fallacy. Changing my vote to oppose 212.74.201.233 (talk) 21:29, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

• I'm pretty sure an oppose doesn't count if it's made because you don't like the fact someone said the word "whataboutism". Kingsif (talk) 22:57, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose If it were Belarusians fleeing for Lithuania it might be interesting (the article is a mess though) but it's mostly Iraqis and no one should be surprised that Iraqis are fleeing Iraq. Also, 4000 people in 2021 ... that's basically a weekend on the US-Mexican border. --LaserLegs (talk) 18:24, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

The article certainly needs improvements, but did you actually read it? You are comparing very different things: borders and populations of different scale and very different nature of the event. The significance of the article is not the absolute number of the illegal crossings, but the nature of the crisis i.e. it's effectively a state-sponsored human trafficking and a geopolitical/diplomatic conflict. If we have a news item about the Krystsina Tsimanouskaya's humanitarian visa, then I really fail to see how is this less significant? --Mindaur (talk) 18:53, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Sure did, I mean except for the meaningless wall of reactions. Terrible background section that has nothing to do with refugees. The claim that illegal immigration was "weaponized" is actually tagged "citation needed". Seems like your standard "Lukashenko bad" WP:SYNTH disaster article about an issue that's been affecting Europe in one way or another since the invasion of Iraq and the creation of ISIL. In other words, literally nothing at all to see here. Don't worry, it'll be posted. --LaserLegs (talk) 20:54, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

So, improve it. The background section contains two references about the election fraud (and if you need more, there is 2020 Belarusian presidential election with loads of references), but you tagged it in the next section. The "weaponization" claim is referenced in that sentence; moreover, there is another reference in the lead section and more in other paragraphs. It's not WP:SYNTH, it's based on what the referenced articles state, so the events in the backround have a great deal to do with the migrants/refugees. Do we need to improve the narrative and clean it up? Sure. I didn't create the article, by the way, but I am trying to clean it up. Meanwhile, your arguments don't have any substance: "meaningless wall of reactions", "terrible background", "standard 'Lukashenko bad'", false analogies (as already explained by multiple other comments here) -- it's all WP:JUSTDONTLIKEIT. It's not constructive. --Mindaur (talk) 21:21, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Comment and reply Seconded the above, absolutely incomparable. By that logic you'd have to mention the Greek, Maltese, Spanish, UK and Italian migrant crises and routes, except this is a whole completely different scenario and different geo-political impact. Abcmaxx (talk) 19:02, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Belarus is shipping in Iraqis, keeping them in horrible conditions, then sending them across the border to countries without good migrant support infrastructure as a political weapon. "Be nice to us or we'll create a strain on your resources, and you'll feel bad because it's human lives". Quite a different situation, and I actually hadn't noticed it had got so bad in Lithuania. Kingsif (talk) 20:13, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support ongoing There's no point comparing this to US-Mexico border. The population of Lithuania is similar to that of New Mexico alone, Belarus has less than 7.5% of the Mexican population and the border is only a few kilometers long in comparison. Different situation, different politics, different migrants etc. and this is a new unique development. Also WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Abcmaxx (talk) 18:58, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support article appears to be well-cited and the story appears to be relevant to global events. NorthernFalcon (talk) 01:11, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
• Comment – "Poland reports record number of migrants at Belarusian border." [5] – Sca (talk) 12:41, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• I raise you "Biden imposes sanctions against Belarus' Lukashenko regime" [6] Kingsif (talk) 20:29, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose – Actually they are not Belarusian migrants. It's just another human trafficking route to the EU. Nothing unusual here. STSC (talk) 21:37, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

2020 Summer Olympics closing ceremony

Article: 2020 Summer Olympics closing ceremony (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Summer Olympics close in Tokyo, Japan. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The Summer Olympics close in Tokyo, Japan, with the United States taking home the most gold and total medals.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The Summer Olympics close in Tokyo, Japan, with the United States winning the most gold and total medals.
Credits:

• Nominated by ActuallyNeverHappened02 (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: a la the opening ceremony; in half an hour (again); will definitely need to be updated but after that I think we can post it Actually_NeverHappened02 (a place to chalk | a list of stuff i've done) 13:07, 8 August 2021 (UTC) | Alt blurb added by {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 23:55, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support and remove as ongoing the 2020 Summer Olympics is officially close, so it means the article does not longer necessary to continue as ongoing. 180.242.42.147 (talk) 14:02, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality until "Dignitaries in attendance" and "Anthems" section are either sourced or removed (article is good enough for ITN without them). Definitely removed from ongoing, as the event has finished. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:33, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
  • I think I fixed the sourcing issue in the dignitaries and anthems sections, so that should be fine now! Actually_NeverHappened02 (a place to chalk | a list of stuff i've done) 19:17, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
    • It looks like a tonne of unsourced content has been added now, so cannot currently support (although I would support it all being removed, as per WP:VERIFY). Joseph2302 (talk) 09:21, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
      • I tried to fix most of it, so most prose should be cited now Actually_NeverHappened02 (a place to chalk | a list of stuff i've done) 19:39, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support and remove as ongoing The olympics are not going anymore.Pyramids09 (talk) 17:32, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support Blurb. Support removal from ongoing. Nice work @ActuallyNeverHappened02:. There is one more tag remaining in the lede and two more in the Antwerp Ceremony section. Article is good for WP:ITN once those are removed. Ktin (talk) 19:22, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
  • I think I've fixed the citation issue now, the cited prose has either been removed or replaced :) Actually_NeverHappened02 (a place to chalk | a list of stuff i've done) 20:28, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
• Question, will this still be news tomorrow? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:24, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

• Whether it is or not, it was in the news when it occurred, and as it is ITNR it will be posted when quality is there(it isn't yet). You are free to propose the removal of the closing ceremony from ITNR if you desire. 331dot (talk) 09:22, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Yes, I know, this is how ITN words. Maybe I'll propose changing the title to "What was in the news". Martinevans123 (talk) 10:41, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Weak support ITNR so only quality is a consideration and I see a couple of [citation needed] tags in there. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 19:27, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support Blurb. Support removal from ongoing - Now the closing ceremony should be added.BabbaQ (talk) 21:52, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support alt blurb as proposer—the country winning the most medals is a key fact, particularly this Olympics given the competition between the U.S. and China. We have room to include it so we might as well. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 23:55, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose There are several tags in the article. Hanamanteo (talk) 02:45, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Whole paragraphs unreferenced. Pawnkingthree (talk) 02:49, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• I've tried my best to get the citation issue fixed, so most of the prose in the article is now cited properly Actually_NeverHappened02 (a place to chalk | a list of stuff i've done) 19:11, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support the original blurb once the article is improved and strong oppose the alternative blurb per Article 6 in Charter 1 of the Olympic Charter, which states "The Olympic Games are competitions between athletes in individual or team events and not between countries."--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 06:16, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• I guess this means that the whole notion of a medals table is un-Olympic? Martinevans123 (talk) 09:14, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• The IOC is free to consider the Olympics what it wishes, but what matters is how RS report on it, and almost all of them report out which country won the most medals and most gold medals, usually in the form of a table. 331dot (talk) 09:20, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• The BBC's report on the closing ceremony doesn't even mention which country won the most gold and total medals. So there's no need to load the blurb with superfluous details when it's clear that the closing ceremony is the main news and an ITNR item that should get posted.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 10:17, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

  Other than the unencyclopedic term "taking home" (should be "winning" probably) I think it's fine to mention the US as medal table winners. Sources do take major note of that.  — Amakuru (talk) 16:48, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• And let's hear it for the eight countries who shared joint-86th place with one bronze medal each. At least every country got something. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:53, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• I still think that any outcome of the event is a different story from the closing ceremony and should be dealt with separately. But if we really need an extended blurb documenting achievements from the event, my first choice would be either Caeleb Dressel's five gold medals or Emma McKeon's seven total medals. Their achievements as most successful athletes are covered in RS as much as the US finishing on top of the medal table but the difference is that one such blurb would give more context compared to the blunt message that a country won the most medals.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 18:08, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support Blurb. Oppose alt blurb I && II. – robertsky (talk) 20:24, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose – Some portions of the content are still unsourced. STSC (talk) 21:47, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

August 7

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August 7, 2021 (2021-08-07) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks War in Afghanistan Taliban insurgency 2021 Taliban offensive The Taliban captures Sheberghan, the provincial capital of Jowzjan Province, making it the second capture of a provincial capital by the Islamist group in the past 24 hours. (NDTV) The British and American governments warn their citizens to leave Afghanistan "immediately" amid the Taliban advance and a worsening security situation in the country. (ABC News) Fights erupt between two rival factions of the SPLA-IO party in South Sudan, resulting in the deaths of 32 people. (Al Jazeera) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Brunei Brunei reports its first seven local COVID-19 cases in 457 days, with five of them being related to a monitoring centre cluster in the country and the remaining two having unidentified origins. (The Star) COVID-19 pandemic in India, COVID-19 vaccination in India India issues an emergency use authorization for the single-dose Janssen COVID-19 vaccine. (Livemint) COVID-19 pandemic in Japan Japan reports a record for the fourth consecutive day of 15,753 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours. (The Mainichi) COVID-19 pandemic in Thailand Thailand reports a record for the fourth consecutive day of 21,838 new cases of COVID-19, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 736,522. The country also reports a record for the second consecutive day of 212 deaths from COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide death toll to 6,066. (The Straits Times) COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom COVID-19 pandemic in Wales Wales moves to level zero, indicating that most restrictions, including social distancing measures, are lifted. This allows nightclubs to reopen and indoor meetings to be permitted, although masks remain mandatory in most public indoor locations. (Sky News) COVID-19 pandemic in Australia Australia reports 361 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, including a record 319 cases in New South Wales, which is the highest single-day total of new cases for the country this year. (CNBC)

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(Closed) 2021 British & Irish Lions

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Article: 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to South Africa (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In rugby union, the South Afirica's Springboks defeat the British and Irish Lions to win the test series 2-1. (Post)
News source(s): BBC

 219.102.223.134 (talk) 00:04, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose relatively insignificant sports series. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 09:56, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose not significant enough competition for ITN. News coverage of it in the UK was way lower than e.g. the Six Nations Championship (which does get posted, as it's ITNR). Joseph2302 (talk) 09:59, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose agree with the above two comments re significance and also oppose on article quality - mostly a stats page. Only one match has any prose coverage.--Bcp67 (talk) 10:19, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

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RD: Markie Post

Article: Markie Post (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Times, NBC News
Credits:

• Nominated by CoatCheck (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Night Court, Fall Guy actress of the 80s. Worked up to recently during cancer battle. CoatCheck (talk) 20:41, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

• Almost Support Unsourced filmography, with many minor style errors, TV movies in Film and Television...but otherwise fine. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:37, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

RD: Brad Allan

Article: Brad Allan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Wrap, US Day News, Yahoo (in Mandarim)
Credits:

• Nominated by SirEdimon (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Australian martial artist, actor, stunt performer and first non-Asian member of the Jackie Chan Stunt Team. News of his death are still coming out. The article needs some work. --SirEd ^Dimmi!!! 01:47, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Trevor Moore

Article: Trevor Moore (comedian) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): (NYPost), (RollingStone), (Vulture)
Credits:

• Nominated by TatteredSail (talk · give credit)
• Updated by CarciaNullius (talk · give credit) and Nohomersryan (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Comedian known for The Whitest Kids U' Know. Article has lots of unreferenced claims TatteredSail (talk) 23:08, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

• Yeah, definitely not ready to post yet. Given the surprise nature of the death, there will be a fair bit that requires updating and pruning, hopefully some of which will be covered in upcoming articles. Nohomersryan (talk) 23:26, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
• I've now added references for much of the article. TatteredSail (talk) 18:20, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
• A couple more references needed, but nearly good to post. Stephen 01:16, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
• Film + discography are now fully referenced, and CN tags are complete. It should be ready now. TatteredSail (talk) 15:23, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
• Posted  — Amakuru (talk) 16:45, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

August 6

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August 6, 2021 (2021-08-06) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks War in Afghanistan Taliban insurgency 2021 Taliban offensive Dawa Khan Menapal, head of the Government Media and Information Centre, is assassinated in Kabul. The Taliban claims responsibility for the killing, saying that Menapal "was punished for his actions". (Reuters) The Taliban captures Zaranj, the provincial capital of Nimruz Province, making it the first major capture of a provincial city by the group since the 2001 invasion. A spokesperson for the local police confirms that the city has fallen into Taliban control and blames the lack of reinforcements of military from the central government. (The West Australia) Iran–Israel proxy conflict Hezbollah fires twenty rockets at northern Israel from Lebanon, its heaviest barrage since the 2006 war and the second firing of rockets in the past week. The Israel Defense Forces respond with artillery attacks. (The Times of Israel) (VOA) Lebanese Druze villagers confront the Hezbollah rocket-launch convoy after it fires at Israel, accusing the militant group of endangering them by firing projectiles near civilian houses. The Lebanese Army later confiscates the launcher and arrests four suspects. (The Times of Israel) (Reuters) Disasters and accidents Wildfires in 2021 2021 Greece wildfires Mass evacuations are carried out in the northern suburbs of Athens as wildfires continue to burn on the outskirts of the capital. A volunteer firefighter is killed by a fallen electricity pylon, while another man dies in a factory. Twenty more people are wounded. (BBC News) 2021 British Columbia wildfires The village of Monte Lake is destroyed by the fast-moving White Rock Lake wildfire, while the city of Kamloops places several of its southern neighbourhoods on evacuation alert. Around 300 fires are currently burning in British Columbia. (The Guardian) 2021 California wildfires The Dixie Fire becomes the third largest wildfire in California's history. (NPR) Severe fires erupt across the region of Calabria, Italy, killing two people in Reggio Calabria. The country is battling several fires, mainly in the centre-south regions and on the two islands. (Il Fatto Quotidiano) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Japan Japan surpasses one million cases of COVID-19. (CBC News) Japan reports its first case of the SARS-CoV-2 Lambda variant in a woman in her 30s who arrived at Haneda Airport on July 20 after travelling to Peru. (The Japan Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Malaysia Malaysia reports a record for the third consecutive day of 20,889 new cases of COVID-19, bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 1,224,595. (CNA) COVID-19 pandemic in the Philippines COVID-19 community quarantines in the Philippines Metro Manila, Laguna, Iloilo City, and Cagayan de Oro enter enhanced community quarantine until August 20 for Metro Manila and August 15 for the other regions. (Manila Bulletin) COVID-19 pandemic in Singapore COVID-19 vaccination in Singapore Indoor dining and other leisure activities will resume in Singapore for fully vaccinated individuals in groups of up to five people beginning on August 10. (CNA) The Ministry of Health announces that it will recognise all COVID-19 vaccines including those listed under the emergency use listing of the World Health Organization beginning on August 10 and that these vaccines will also be included in the statistics of the national vaccination programme. (The Straits Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Sri Lanka Sri Lanka suspends state festivals and public gatherings until September 1 and restricts the number of people to 25 for funerals and 150 for weddings amid an increase in the number of COVID-19 cases and deaths. (France 24) COVID-19 pandemic in Thailand Thailand reports a record for the third consecutive day of 21,379 new cases of COVID-19, bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 714,684. The country also reports a record 191 deaths from COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide death toll to 5,854. (Bangkok Post) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Belgium Seven fully vaccinated residents at a care home in Nossegem, Flemish Brabant, die after contracting the Colombian Lineage B.1.621 variant. (Newsweek) COVID-19 pandemic in Greece Greece imposes a curfew and a full ban on music in entertainment venues on the islands of Crete and Zakynthos in order to reduce the spread of COVID-19. These measures will be in effect until August 13. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in Italy Italy begins to introduce the "Green Pass" where people over the age of 12 must present proof of vaccination of at least one dose, a negative test from the previous 48 hours, or having recovered from COVID-19 in order to enter gyms, theatres and bars, dine in at restaurants, and participate in some leisure activities. (ABC News) COVID-19 pandemic in the United States COVID-19 vaccination in the United States The White House COVID-19 Response Team announces that 50% of Americans have been fully vaccinated. (VOA) COVID-19 pandemic in Arkansas An Arkansas judge temporarily blocks a law signed by Governor Asa Hutchinson that bans the state from imposing mask mandates. (Hot Springs Sentinel-Record) COVID-19 pandemic in Florida Florida reports a record 22,783 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours. (WTVJ) The number of COVID-19 cases in the U.S. reaches an average of 100,000 new cases per day for the first time since February. (US News) COVID-19 pandemic in South America COVID-19 pandemic in Argentina Argentina surpasses five million cases of COVID-19 after reporting 13,549 new cases in the past 24 hours. (Infobae) COVID-19 pandemic in Peru COVID-19 vaccination in Peru Peruvian President Pedro Castillo, First Lady Lilia Paredes, and Health Minister Hernando Cevallos receive their first doses of the Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine. (Xinhuanet) COVID-19 pandemic in Australia Prime Minister Scott Morrison states there will be no further laws on the Commonwealth or state levels requiring vaccines in certain workplaces and this will instead be left up to individual businesses to decide. (The Guardian) International relations The Pacific Islands Forum opens with U.S. President Joe Biden addressing the summit, after being invited by Fijian Prime Minister Frank Bainimarama. Biden urges the Federated States of Micronesia to rejoin after the country withdrew over disagreements in the election of Henry Puna as the forum's Secretary-General. (RNZ) Law and crime Aftermath of the 2021 United States Capitol attack Criminal proceedings in the January 6 United States Capitol attack New Jersey gym owner Scott K. Fairlamb and Washington resident Devlyn D. Thompson pleads guilty to assaulting U.S. Capitol Police officers during the January 6 riot at the Capitol, becoming the first suspects to do so. (The Washington Post) A man stabs passengers riding the Odakyū Odawara Line in Setagaya, Tokyo, Japan, injuring 10 people. The suspect, a man in his 30s, is arrested after turning himself in at a convenience store. (CNN) Politics and elections 2021 Moldovan parliamentary election The Moldovan parliament elects Natalia Gavrilița as the new Prime Minister of Moldova. (Reuters) Sports 2020 Summer Olympics Canada at the 2020 Summer Olympics, Football at the 2020 Summer Olympics, LGBT athletes in the Olympic and Paralympic Games Canadian soccer player Quinn becomes the first out, transgender, non-binary athlete to earn an Olympic medal, after winning gold in the women's tournament with the Canadian national soccer team. (NBC News)

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(Posted) RD: Herbert Schlosser

Article: Herbert Schlosser (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times; Variety; Deadline Hollywood
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Connormah (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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 Bloom6132 (talk) 02:29, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support Made NBC relevant to the 1970s, short sweet article, woe is us. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:40, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
• Posted --PFHLai (talk) 11:53, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Attack on Ralph Gonsalves, Prime Minister of St. Vincent and the Grenadines

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Article: Ralph Gonsalves (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ St. Vincent and the Grenadines Prime Minister Ralph Gonsalves is in hospital after a rock was thrown at him by a anti-vaccine protester. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: It is breaking news so severity of this attack is not yet known, but significant attacks on heads of state are a rare notable occurrence I would say. Wider significance from anti-vax attacks and ongoing COVID-19 issues all over the globe. Cannot remember the small island nation being in the news ever so it must be fairly significant to make it round the world on front pages. Abcmaxx (talk) 23:21, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose It can't be pleasant to be hit with a rock, but he doesn't seem seriously injured. No broader impact than that. Nohomersryan (talk) 00:49, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Eh, a concussion to be precise[7], so he will be monitored for some weeks. No lasting issues though. Joofjoof (talk) 02:45, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
• Comment This has made the regional news: Jamaica Trinidad and Tobago, Guyana. The CARICOM chair also released a statement.[8] Joofjoof (talk) 02:45, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose One wounded fails MINIMUMDEATHS, and he's far from a major world leader (my queen is his country's head of state). But yes, I've felt his pain, not fun. Stay strong, brother! InedibleHulk (talk) 02:56, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose – Lacks general significance. Suggest close. – Sca (talk) 12:05, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Your average Milkshaking, but with a rock. Kingsif (talk) 23:59, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

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Dixie Fire

Flammagenitus cloud produced by the Dixie Fire near Chico

Article: Dixie Fire (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Dixie Fire (fire cloud pictured) burns over 480,000 acres of land in Northern California, destroying the towns of Canyondam and Greenville. (Post)
News source(s): AJ, CBS, CNN, NPR, NYT
Credits:

• Nominated by AllegedlyHuman (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Shannon1 (talk · give credit) and Frank Schulenburg (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Major wildfire, third largest in California's history. Larger than the currently-blurbed 2021 Turkish wildfires by over 4x. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 20:39, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support Climate change is destroying towns. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:19, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
• Comment – Part of the larger global warming/climate change/U.S. wildfires stories. Doesn't appear to have a larger significance on its own. – Sca (talk) 22:02, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
• Comment Agree with Sca. The difference with the Turkish forest fires is that have caused at least 8 victims. In California, two towns with less than 1200 inhabitants combined were burned. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 22:18, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
• Wait Its wildfire season in the US (and elsewhere), and while two towns were destroyed, these aren't very large, and there are yet any reported deaths. The wildfire could get worse before its considered extinguished, and if there are deaths or more severe destruction (acreage of land notwithstanding) then it might be worth posting. --Masem (t) 22:52, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
• Comment Should we use units of acres or square kilometres? osunpokeh (talk) 11:31, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

  For U.S. fires only, sq. mi. with sq. km in parens (U.S. media practice). – Sca (talk) 12:08, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

• Nom. comment Fire is now the "largest single wildfire in California history". AllegedlyHuman (talk) 16:25, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
  • While that is very much true, we're also talking about an area of the state largely undeveloped and unpopulated, aka "if a tree falls in a forest, does it make a sound?" scenario. Yes, that's still land damage, there's smoke and ash going at least as far as Salt Lake City from what I've heard, etc. But its again, norm for this time of year and no lives have yet to be lost. --Masem (t) 16:46, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
    • Aye, everyone knows plants and animals were dead when we got here, a barren untouched wasteland. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:08, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose big fire, sad fire, not really interesting that it's a "biggest since FOO" fire because there's always one of those. Appears, per Masem, to currently (and merficully) have made little real historical impact. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 22:58, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose It's wildfire season in California, we'll continue to resist setting precedent for posting any and every X in predictable X season unless it's truly unprecedented. Also, I haven't seen this actually in any news (obviously I see the links, I had read about it by going down the local story route, but I mean it's not making headlines so that elusive "average reader" would be surprised to see it headlining Wikipedia alone). Kingsif (talk) 23:59, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose it's not "news" that California has fires in the summer. This fire has been going for weeks. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 00:13, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Prime Minister of Moldova

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Article: Natalia Gavrilița (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Parliament of Moldova approves Natalia Gavrilița as new Prime Minister. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters, Reuters, Interfax
Credits:

• Nominated by Andrew J.Kurbiko (talk · give credit)

 Andrei (talk) 13:04, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

• Comment: we already posted the results of the election back in July, so this is probably just a formality? --Tone 13:38, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per Tone, this is a duplicate posting; we already posted the election and the results. Occasionally we have posted things like this instead of elections, in cases where we missed the election posting for various reasons, but in general, when the election has already been posted, such formalities like this or like inaugurations and the like are not normally posted. --Jayron32 14:49, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

  I would not call it a formality because in this case, the leader of the winning party does not automatically become a prime minister (in fact, he is the current speaker of the parliament). It is not the Westminster system. Nevertheless, the prime minister in Moldova has more powers than the president, therefore should be important enough to be posted. Also worth noting is the fact that the country has had no government since last December, so this is a formal end of the local political crisis. --Andrei (talk) 15:21, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

  Still, according to the election results, it was expected that the new PM would come from a party that has comfortably won the election. We typically reserve the PM posting in cases where there is a prolonged government formation, such as when no party can form a coallition and similar, which was not the case here. --Tone 16:45, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

  Per Tone, it is a formality because we knew who the PM was going to be at the election, and nothing strange or unexpected happened between then and now. It was expected, at the time of the election, that what happened above would happen. Had it not, we would have a story to post. Since everything happened according to plan, there's no reason to post such an update. --Jayron32 17:37, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Does seem pretty much a foregone conclusion. – Sca (talk) 18:52, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

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August 5

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August 5, 2021 (2021-08-05) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Boko Haram insurgency At least 20 Chadian soldiers are killed in an attack by Boko Haram militants during a routine patrol near Lake Chad. (Reuters) Tigray War The Tigray Defense Forces capture the town and UNESCO heritage of Lalibela in the Amhara Region. (National Post) The Colombian government announces that it has foiled an alleged bomb plot in Bogotá by FARC dissidents. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents Wildfires in 2021 2021 California wildfires The Dixie Fire destroys most of Greenville, California, including large portions of its historic downtown area. (Al Jazeera) 2021 Turkish wildfires Hundreds of workers and residents are evacuated as a wildfire nears a coal-powered power plant in Muğla Province. More than 36,000 people have been evacuated in the province, as President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan declares the wildfires to be the worst in Turkey's history. (Reuters) 2021 Greek wildfires People in Athens are told to remain indoors due to smoke from wildfires burning on the outskirts of the city. More than 500 firefighters are fighting a wildfire on Mount Parnitha, while the suburb of Varympompi is evacuated. (EU Reporter) 2021 Italy wildfires Thousands of firefighters and water-bombing aircraft are deployed as wildfires continue to spread across Italy amid an unprecedented heat wave caused by a heat dome event over southeast Europe. Hundreds of people are evacuated on Sardinia and Sicily, with Sardinian President Christian Solinas describing the situation as an "unprecedented disaster." (Voice of America) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Japan Japan reports a record 15,263 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, including a record 5,042 cases in Tokyo, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 987,163. (NHK World-Japan) (Associated Press) The Japanese government announces the expansion of the quasi-state of emergency to eight prefectures from August 8 to August 31. (The Mainichi) COVID-19 pandemic in Kazakhstan Kazakhstan reports a record 7,792 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 610,744 (Kazinform) COVID-19 pandemic in Malaysia COVID-19 vaccination in Malaysia The Malaysian Ministry of Health grants a conditional approval for the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine for emergency use. (CNA) Malaysia reports a record for the second consecutive day of 20,596 new cases of COVID-19, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 1.2 million. (Malay Mail) COVID-19 pandemic in Thailand Thailand reports a record for the second consecutive day of 20,920 new cases of COVID-19, bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 693,305. (Bangkok Post) COVID-19 pandemic in Uzbekistan Uzbekistan reports a record 951 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 133,852. (AKIpress News Agency) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Finland Finland restricts the operating hours in Southwest Finland, Pirkanmaa, Kymenlaakso, and the Helsinki metropolitan area to until 10 p.m. for bars and until 11 p.m. for restaurants and also bans karaoke and indoor dancing beginning on August 8 due to the worsening situation in those regions. The government also announces that vaccination of children between the ages of 12 and 15 will begin next week. (Yle) COVID-19 pandemic in Italy The Italian government announces that the usage of a "Green Pass" will be mandatory for teachers and university students to enter educational institutions and will also be mandatory for use in long-haul air, rail, ferry, and intercity bus services beginning on September 1. (Swissinfo) COVID-19 pandemic in Canada COVID-19 pandemic in Quebec The province of Quebec announces that it will implement vaccine passports. (CBC News) COVID-19 pandemic in Australia The state of Victoria enters a lockdown for the sixth time since the beginning of the pandemic, joining New South Wales and Queensland, after a currently unexplained increase in the number of COVID-19 cases. (ABC News Australia) COVID-19 pandemic in Chile The Chilean government announces that they will begin administering booster doses for those who have received the Sinovac CoronaVac vaccine beginning on August 11 for people over the age of 55 using the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine and in September for people under the age of 55 using the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine in order to protect the population from the Delta variant. (Bloomberg News) COVID-19 pandemic in Morocco Morocco reports a record 12,039 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 665,235. (Morocco World News) International aid related to the COVID-19 pandemic Spain donates 7.5 million vaccines to Latin American countries, with the first countries to receive these vaccines being Peru, Paraguay and Guatemala. (Prensa Latina) Law and crime COVID-19 pandemic in France, COVID-19 vaccination in France The French Constitutional Council approves most of the controversial measures that would begin on August 9 which include requiring health passes to enter restaurants, cafés, some shopping centres, and use some types of public transportation. The council also approves the vaccine mandate for healthcare workers and other health professionals, in which they must present proof that they have received at least one dose of the vaccine beginning on September 15 and must present proof of full vaccination beginning on October 15. However, judges considered the mandatory 10-day quarantine to be a violation of aspects of French liberties. (Euronews) Protests over responses to the COVID-19 pandemic, COVID-19 pandemic in Saint Vincent and the Grenadines Prime Minister of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines Ralph Gonsalves is injured during protests against changes to the Public Health Act, which includes mandatory vaccination against COVID-19 for public sector workers and those in "frontline jobs". The Prime Minister received treatment for a head wound. (Caribbean National Weekly) Hong Kong national security law LGBT organizations and Amnesty International ask Hong Kong to release detained activist Jimmy Sham, who has been repeatedly denied bail since his arrest in February. Amnesty says that Sham has been held in prison "simply for speaking out for his community and LGBTQIA+ rights in Hong Kong." These organizations also warned of Sham's upcoming trial along with 46 others where he could face many more years in prison for "subversion." (Star Observer) 2021 Ghana gay arrests A court in Ghana drops a case against 21 LGBT activists who were arrested in May. The 16 women and five men were arrested at a hotel in the Volta Region for an alleged unlawful assembly, of which the court said that there was not enough evidence to prove the charges. The other charges were dismissed, as promoting LGBT rights is not a crime in Ghana. (Reuters) Six members of a paramilitary force in Sudan are sentenced to death for their involvement in the killing of six people during a 2019 protest in El-Obeid. (Al Jazeera) Politics and elections Venezuelan presidential crisis President of Mexico Andrés Manuel López Obrador announces that the country would host talks between the Venezuelan government of Nicolás Maduro and the opposition. (Reuters) 2021 Iranian presidential election Hardline cleric Ebrahim Raisi is sworn-in as the eighth President of Iran after being approved by Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei. Raisi has promised to end US sanctions and work for the vital oil sector of Iran, which has been affected by the sanctions. (Deutsche Welle) Science and technology Apple Inc. announces that it will begin to continuously scan its smartphone and tablet devices for child sexual abuse material (CSAM). Before an image is stored on the iCloud, the new system will search for matches of already known CSAM. The company claims the system has an "extremely high level of accuracy", and will be included in iOS and iPadOS updates later this year. (BBC News) Sports 2020 Summer Olympics Burkina Faso at the 2020 Summer Olympics, Athletics at the 2020 Summer Olympics Burkinabé athlete Hugues Fabrice Zango gets third place in the men’s triple jump event, winning Burkina Faso its first Olympic medal. (The Punch)

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(Closed) Lionel Messi leaves Barcelona

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Article: Lionel Messi (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Lionel Messi leaves Barcelona after 21 years at the club (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Messi is leaving Barcelona for spending his career of 21 years there and is one world greatest footballers. This is global news not a normal transfer. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 21:54, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

• Strong oppose Sports transactions, no matter who the player is, are not ITN material. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:56, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose only blurb Messi gets is if (a) he dies or (b) he signs for Ipswich Town. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 22:00, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. Sports transactions are not news. We didn't post(and shouldn't have) when Tom Brady went to Tampa Bay. 331dot (talk) 22:15, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
• Comment it's a "transfer" not a "transaction". And to where, we know not. Thanks. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 22:22, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose – Lacks general significance. Suggest snow. Sca (talk) 22:22, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support Soccer is the most important thing in the world. --LaserLegs (talk) 22:35, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Richard Trumka

Article: Richard Trumka (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Times CNBC Politico
Credits:

• Nominated by Chsdrummajor07 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Bookworm-ce (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American labor leader, President of the AFL-CIO Hans van Mol 16:41, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

• Comment I think I got the last couple citations in about his work on the U.S. Shell boycott; I would definitely support if so, as it seems everything else is sufficiently referenced. rawmustard (talk) 17:43, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support Looks solid. Teemu08 (talk) 21:56, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
• One citation needed. Stephen 06:09, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support I just deleted the only unsourced information. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 17:58, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support. Article looks good for homepage / RD. RIP. Marking Ready. Ktin (talk) 18:48, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
• Posted --PFHLai (talk) 20:24, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Brian Henderson (television presenter)

Article: Brian Henderson (television presenter) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Stephen (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Veteran Australian newsreader, needs work. Stephen 05:06, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support – well-referenced; meets minimum ITN requirements. —Bloom6132 (talk) 08:59, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support – referenced and ready. --BabbaQ (talk) 11:01, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support – Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 14:00, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 14:41, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

August 4

Portal:Current events/2021 August 4

August 4, 2021 (2021-08-04) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks August 2021 Gulf of Oman incident Oman says the hijacking of the Asphalt Princess, a Panama-flagged ship, is over. The United Kingdom also confirms this report. The vessel was hijacked yesterday in the Arabian Sea in as-of-yet undetermined circumstances amidst rising tensions between some nations and Iran. (Reuters) Insurgency in the Maghreb Militants attack four villages in the town of Markoye, Burkina Faso, opening fire in the streets and killing 11 civilians, 15 soldiers and four members of a government-backed civilian militia. Ten of the perpetrators are killed during a shootout after the attack. (Al Jazeera) Rocket attacks on Israel Three rockets are fired from Lebanon at northern Israel, sparking fires near Kiryat Shmona; the Israel Defense Forces responds with artillery and airstrikes. (i24 News) (The Times of Israel) Disasters and accidents Milavče train crash Two passenger trains collide head-on near Milavče, Plzeň Region, Czech Republic, killing three people and injuring 58 others. (Reuters) Seventeen people are killed in northern Bangladesh during a lightning strike on a boat celebrating a wedding. (CNN) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Japan Japan reports a record 14,207 new cases in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 971,904. (NHK) Tokyo reports a record 4,166 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours. (The Hill) COVID-19 pandemic in mainland China, Travel restrictions related to the COVID-19 pandemic The Chinese immigration authority suspends the issuing of ordinary passports and other documents needed for exiting the country for "non-essential and non-emergency" reasons as the country restricts overseas travel in order to prevent the spread of the Delta variant. (Radio France Internationale) COVID-19 pandemic in Indonesia Indonesia surpasses 100,000 deaths from COVID-19. (Associated Press) COVID-19 pandemic in Iran Iran surpasses four million cases from COVID-19 after a record 39,957 new cases were reported for the third consecutive day. (Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty) COVID-19 pandemic in Macau Macau launches compulsory COVID-19 testing for all 680,000 people at 41 testing centres and will close all cinemas, gyms, bars, and other entertainment venues beginning midnight after the first local cases were reported in the city in more than 16 months. Four members of a family were infected with the Delta variant. (Bloomberg News) (France 24) COVID-19 pandemic in Malaysia Malaysia reports a record 19,819 new cases and 257 deaths from COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 1,183,110 and the nationwide death toll to 9,855. (CNA) COVID-19 pandemic in Thailand Thailand reports a record 20,200 new cases and 188 deaths from COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 672,385 and the nationwide death toll to 5,503. (Bangkok Post) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom COVID-19 pandemic in England, Travel restrictions related to the COVID-19 pandemic The British government announces that France will be removed from England's "amber plus" category, meaning that fully-vaccinated travellers will no longer need to quarantine. Additionally, seven other countries will be added to the "green list" category. These changes will be in effect beginning August 8 at 4:00 a.m. (ITV News) COVID-19 pandemic in Ukraine Ukraine receives 509,400 doses of the Oxford–AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine donated by Denmark. (Ukrinform) European Union response to the COVID-19 pandemic, COVID-19 vaccine The European Commission signs an agreement with Novavax to purchase 200 million doses of its protein-based COVID-19 vaccines, including an option to purchase another 100 million doses through 2023. (Politico Europe) COVID-19 pandemic in North America COVID-19 pandemic in the United States COVID-19 pandemic in Illinois Illinois Governor J. B. Pritzker issues a vaccine mandate for healthcare workers, as well as a mask mandate for schools and indoor sporting events. (Patch) COVID-19 pandemic in Louisiana Louisiana reports 2,247 hospitalizations in the past 24 hours, a new single-day record. (The Times-Picayune/The New Orleans Advocate) COVID-19 pandemic in Oregon Oregon Governor Kate Brown announces that healthcare workers will be required to receive the COVID-19 vaccine or otherwise undergo testing. (Portland Tribune) COVID-19 pandemic in Canada COVID-19 pandemic in British Columbia British Columbia reports 342 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, the highest daily total since May 27. (CBC News) COVID-19 pandemic in Guadeloupe The French overseas territory of Guadeloupe enters a three-week partial lockdown that closes all bars, gyms, stadiums, and swimming pools; and restricts restaurants to only offer lunchtime service. A curfew from 8:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. is also enforced while the travel of individuals is restricted to a radius of 10 km (6.2 mi) from their residence except for urgent reasons. The new partial lockdown comes amid a "catastrophic" increase in the number of COVID-19 cases. (Euronews) COVID-19 pandemic in New Zealand COVID-19 vaccination in New Zealand New Zealand surpasses two million doses of COVID-19 vaccine administrations, with almost 770,000 people having been fully vaccinated. (The New Zealand Herald) COVID-19 pandemic in Brazil Brazil surpasses 20 million COVID-19 cases. (Al Arabiya) COVID-19 pandemic in Ivory Coast Ivorian President Alassane Ouattara self-isolates after coming in contact with someone who tested positive for COVID-19. (Reuters) The number of confirmed COVID-19 cases worldwide surpasses 200 million. (The New York Times) International relations The Sudanese government unanimously approves a draft bill to join the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court. (Al Jazeera) Law and crime Aftermath of the 2020 Belarusian protests The trial of Maria Kalesnikava, one of the main organizers of the anti-Lukashenko protests, opens in Minsk. Kalesnikava faces up to 12 years of imprisonment if she is found guilty on charges of extremism. (BBC News) Police in Kyiv arrest a man with a grenade who entered the Ukrainian Cabinet of Ministers building, threatening to detonate it. (Reuters) Sports 2020 Summer Olympics Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on sports, Greece at the 2020 Summer Olympics, Artistic swimming at the 2020 Summer Olympics The Tokyo Organising Committee of the Olympic and Paralympic Games confirms the first COVID-19 cluster infection since the Games began, after four athletes and one team official from the Greek artistic swimming group test positive. The five individuals, in addition to the seven other members of the team who tested negative, were moved away from the Olympic village and isolated. (United Press International)

(Posted) RD: R. Aravamudan

Article: R. Aravamudan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): WION India
Credits:

• Nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: India space scientist and engineer. Article is a start-class biography. Meets basic hygiene for homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 23:35, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

• Though long enough at 405 words, it seems a little thin as a wikibio -- it would be nice to know, apart from writing ISRO: A Personal History, what he has achieved while carrying all those big titles. I am not sure if this is a deficiency that should hold this nom back. Otherwise, this is READY for RD. --PFHLai (talk) 03:31, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support as fully sourced and although a short article it should be sufficient for our RD requirements JW 1961 ^Talk 12:31, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
• Posted --PFHLai (talk) 14:20, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Karl Heinz Bohrer

Article: Karl Heinz Bohrer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Spiegel, FAZ + others
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Thought-provoking intellectual in newspaper, magazine (as publisher and author), university professor in Germany and California, writer of autobiography - had a poor article and would still deserve more. Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:00, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support But meets already minimum requirements. Grimes2 (talk) 15:39, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support - fully sourced and ready.--BabbaQ (talk) 18:08, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
• Posted --PFHLai (talk) 18:10, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bobby Eaton

Article: Bobby Eaton (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): TSN, The Independent, NBC
Credits:

• Nominated by InedibleHulk (talk · give credit)
• Updated by McPhail (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Good singles babyface, great tag heel, Featured Article. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:54, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

• Comment. Looks almost ready for homepage / RD. There are two tags for unreliable sources. @InedibleHulk: please can you look at that? Once that is fixed, this is good to go to homepage / RD. RIP. Ktin (talk) 01:14, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

  I'm not familiar with Tim Dills in particular, but the fact that Kayfabe Memories trusts him to cover Memphis in such depth speaks to his credibility. Not controversial claims, anyway. Would removing the tags sufficiently fix this? InedibleHulk (talk) 02:03, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

  MPJ-DK and ImmortalWizard, these tags are your business from two Februaries ago; any lingering doubts? InedibleHulk (talk) 02:19, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

  Well, pending a reason not to, I've fixed those tags. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:42, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support. Looks good to go to homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 15:12, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support - sourced and looks good.BabbaQ (talk) 18:13, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 06:06, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: J. R. Richard

Article: J. R. Richard (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [9]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Featured article – Muboshgu (talk) 17:03, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support as per the nomination. rawmustard (talk) 17:10, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support. Article looks good. Added a couple of minor CN tags. Muboshgu please can you have them fixed. Should be relatively easy. Once that is done, this is good to go to homepage / RD. RIP. Ktin (talk) 18:19, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

  Ktin, they're resolved. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:04, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

• @Muboshgu: ESPN says he died "Thursday" (Aug 5).[10] However, the article currently says Aug 4 and in a hospital, neither of which is specified in the page's current citation. This should be resolved.—Bagumba (talk) 19:27, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

  This source says Wednesday in hospital.[11] Whichever is deemed more reliable, it should at least be consistent with the citation.—Bagumba (talk) 19:39, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

  I am not too close to the game. But, I did see a few other sources including a statement on MLB.com that referenced Wednesday, August 4th. So, I think the article has the date correct. [12] [13] Ktin (talk) 19:49, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Bagumba, it also seems to me that Aug 4 is correct and ESPN is incorrect. This source says that the death was reported by the Astros today, though he died last night in a hospital, and I will switch to this source. ESPN is probably taking the day of the report to be the day of death. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:58, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

• Posted—Bagumba (talk) 02:27, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) 400m hurdles world record, update

Article: Sydney McLaughlin (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ New world records are set in men's and women's 400 metres hurdles by Norwegian Karsten Warholm and American Sydney McLaughlin. (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Kingsif (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Wow, since Kevin is fundamentally against people doing the almost-certain at ITN and making a header clearer, proposing a better alt, on something he nominated, let's go for a decent blurb here.
Now, as noted below, this wasn't a particularly impressive record break, but on the other hand, it's 2 for 2 on 400m hurdles records. Kingsif (talk) 14:39, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

• This should be at Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors, not here. Suggest speedy close. 108.41.218.218 (talk) 16:29, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

  What? It's not an error. This is the right venue for this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amakuru (talk • contribs)

• Adding a new article requires people to check that article for ITN criteria. No error, no "simple" change. Kingsif (talk) 17:05, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support - But I do not support this blurb. Just add MacLaughlin into the current blurb and add her image and make it a trio.BabbaQ (talk) 18:04, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

• At current that would be a bit long. Feel free to propose alts that don't take up half (if not more) of the box. Kingsif (talk) 18:41, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

• Posted by adding to the existing blurb. I will repeat what I said in my edit summary - this entire blurb is somewhat arbitrarily (and perhaps unfairly) putting a spotlight on athletics and ignoring the other world records in other sports, so I question the entire approach of putting Olympic world records in this ITN box. - Fuzheado | Talk 18:44, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
• PULL How was this allowed to go AND get posted when it's a copy-paste of a nom below with 2 opposes? 188.27.36.191 (talk) 22:34, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

  While your observations are interesting and may even be valid, without a preponderance of reliable sources discounting the world records, it would amount to original research to make a judgment to consider these world records as requiring special treatment in ITN. Now as to whether we should be taking this much blurb space at all for arbitrarily highlighting these world records, but not the ones in swimming or cycling, that is indeed a valid issue to bring up. For now, it is only logical and fair that either all three folks should be gone from the ITN box, or all three should exist. Putting only 2 of the 3 athletics world records, as it was previously, just doesn't make sense. -- Fuzheado | Talk 01:30, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

• Not a copy-paste when it's a different proposal with different scope. (And actually following ITN.) Fuzheado posted a variation on the blurb that has been discussed below; posting admin's prerogative is to assimilate responses, don't tell me you have issue with that. Importantly, discussion here was/is focused on the merit of adding McLaughlin, the point of the nom, rather than a debate on WR blurbs, which literally prefaced the nom below from a nominator who made it clear he didn't want article or blurb discussion to occur. But you knew that. Kingsif (talk) 02:01, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

For reference nobody seems to have addressed any issues here: Seems that this new record was set WITH the "super spikes" that are reportedly a 1-1.5% bump over the old ones. Since this new decrease of .44 sec is by less than 1% of the old record (compared to the 1.6% for the men's one) and it is done WITH the new technology, this is definitely significantly less notable. The magnitude of the men's hurdles one was the notability there, and the long-jump one was the age of the record, neither of which apply in this case. Had this record been set outside of a competition with many records, this should have been posted, but can be skipped now. Alternatively, can add the records article to the ongoing link on the bottom of ITN (alongside medal table one).

• More @Fuzheado: has anybody checked the linked article for quality updates? There are 2 sentences in the intro with ZILCH coverage in the body of the BLP. 188.27.36.191 (talk) 22:40, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

  The quality of the article was considered and it is fine. It could benefit from more additions but nothing is a show stopper. -- Fuzheado | Talk 01:32, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

• Post-posting Support Makes sense to add this to the blurb about the other record being broken.Jackattack1597 (talk) 11:09, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

How many records are broken? Yet the biggest single event in 100m is not posted but 1 support gets posted?2A02:2A57:60AF:0:7931:FDE6:C873:15B2 (talk) 13:25, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Why did you not nominate it then?BabbaQ (talk) 13:28, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Milavče train collision

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Article: Milavče train crash (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Three people are killed when two trains crash head-on (locomotive involved pictured) at Milavče, Czech Republic (Post)
News source(s): (BBC)
Credits:

• Created and nominated by Mjroots (talk · give credit)

Article updated

 Mjroots (talk) 12:55, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

• Wait Stub article that also somewhat contradicts itself: it suggests there is a definite cause for the collision, but also that an investigation has just been opened. We should wait for it be clear which of those is true (do they know why, or are they looking into it?) RS should hopefully clarify with a few more hours. Kingsif (talk) 15:00, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose unless there's a criminal investigation, this isn't notable enough to be posted. Jim Michael (talk) 18:50, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

  @Jim Michael: your wish has been granted. Criminal investigation opened. Mjroots (talk) 19:42, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support No longer stub and apparently criminal investigations are open now. Cindercat 🐱 (Want to talk?) 05:42, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
• Opppose -- it is unclear what significance this has, but it does not appear to be notable enough to be posted. -- Rockstone^{[Send me a message!]} 06:58, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

  Significance - it's a major rail crash in a first world country. ITN getting dominated by Olympics stories. Well developed article with no issues. Mjroots (talk) 11:15, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

  Doesn't seem major at all. A major rail crash would be one killing 10-20 or more, which unfortunately would not be unusual in certain countries. – Sca (talk) 12:13, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

  Perhaps percentage of a country's annual rail death toll would be a better metric for comparison? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:28, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

• Comment It does seem to have had a fair amount of coverage in English language sources. Not sure it really has that much significance for the wider world. I think the Stonehaven derailment another train related incident with the same number of deaths was rejected from ITN for that reason last year. Llewee (talk) 12:18, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

  The Stonehaven derailment discussion was closed as "no consensus". But we're straying into the realms of WP:OSE here. As I have said before, there is no WP:MINIMUMDEATHS for a reason. Each article needs to be assessed on its own merits, at the time it is nominated. Nominating an article in my experience has a twofold purpose. Firstly, it gets more eyes on the article, and generally leads to improvement of said article. Secondly, it might actually get on the main page, which again gets more eyes on the article. If it don't make the second stage, then its not the end of the world. Mjroots (talk) 12:30, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Oh, that happened in 1962 anyway. – Sca (talk) 12:54, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

To be clear, we don't have a WP:MINIMUMDEATHS because an otherwise notable disaster is not completed mitigated by a low death count. However, the death count is often the most prominent factor in a disaster's significance. GreatCaesarsGhost 13:08, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose – Lacks general significance. – Sca (talk) 12:52, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose I would also prefer we not post multiple Olympics stories, but that's not a legitimate reason to post other stories. GreatCaesarsGhost 13:08, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support - I do not agree with the Opposing side here. Clear significance, deaths, rare event in the country, has received plenty of international coverage. Article is sourced and ready.BabbaQ (talk) 11:17, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

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(Closed) More world records

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Article: Athletics at the 2020 Summer Olympics (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Olympic athletics, Venezuelan Yulimar Rojas breaks a 26-year-old world record in the women's triple jump, and Norwegian Karsten Warholm and American Sydney McLaughlin set world records in the men's and women's 400 metre hurdles respectively. (Post)
News source(s): NYT, Reuters, Guardian, [14] SI[15][16]
Article updated

Nominator's comments: Very similar levels of hype to those in response to Warholm's run; if that really is the way we are going (promoting one sport's records to ITN, totally disregarding historical achievements in others), then it seems only consistent to do this as well. Kevin McE (talk) 11:56, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

• Comment/suggestion: Can we have a cap on the number of these new records in the same blurb at the same time, please? Perhaps the most recent three? Just to avoid putting up bloated bullet-points on ITN. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 12:56, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
• Comment May I suggest bumping Rojas out (back to individual blurb?) and having the 400m hurdlers in the same blurb. Kingsif (talk) 13:00, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
• Comment I agree that it's better to combine the world records in 400 m hurdles in one blurb and keep Rojas in a separate one. We should also consider a new montage of Warholm's and McLaughlin's photos.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 13:07, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
• Kevin McE Users unrelated to the nominator are allowed to propose alt blurbs; nominations are not the property of the nominator and unalterable by others, and adding an alt blurb does not suggest support by the nominator. 331dot (talk) 13:21, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

How then can it be allowed to appear without accreditation or being marked as distinct from my proposal in a section that has my name, and my name alone, attached to it? Kevin McE (talk) 13:26, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Users have proposed alt blurbs on the nominations of others for years and this is the first objection I've seen to it. Often discussions lead to such things and it is assumed that alt blurbs were not necessarily written by the nominator. My suggestion, if you are concerned that others will interpret the addition of an alt blurb as your suggestion, is that you make a statement saying that you do not support any suggested alt blurbs. Perhaps the nomination template can be tinkered with as well. 331dot (talk) 13:34, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Simple: it's not your proposal. The nominator's name is only there to give credit for bringing attention to the item, which is what gets the bulk of pure !votes, with blurb wording always open to improvement, sometimes (often) even changed by the posting admin without discussion at all. Kingsif (talk) 14:51, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Patent nonsense, a proposal made by me, in my name, is my proposal. Why the incredibly rude tone from you on this page? Kevin McE (talk) 16:28, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

That's not true, and I've not been rude. ITN isn't a series of mini-autocracies, and I have merely tried to elucidate that. Wordily and firm, probably. You're making incorrect generalizations of a process you evidently don't understand and now are trying to "win" by saying I'm not nice to you. It's embarrassing. Kingsif (talk) 18:44, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose Seems that this new record was set WITH the "super spikes" that are reportedly a 1-1.5% bump over the old ones. Since this new decrease of .44 sec is by less than 1% of the old record (compared to the 1.6% for the men's one) and it is done WITH the new technology, this is definitely significantly less notable. The magnitude of the men's hurdles one was the notability there, and the long-jump one was the age of the record, neither of which apply in this case. Had this record been set outside of a competition with many records, this should have been posted, but can be skipped now. Alternatively, can add the records article to the ongoing link on the bottom of ITN (alongside medal table one). 188.27.36.191 (talk) 13:35, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
• I'm going to suggest that for the purposes of the rest of the games that we do not try to suggest more WRs, and instead add a link to World and Olympic records set at the 2020 Summer Olympics in the ongoing line (eg "Olympics (medal table, world records)") That article seems to be reasonable sourced and in good shape. That will avoid this issue of us not featuring every WR set. --Masem (t) 13:38, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

And removing those already there? And acknowledge that sports other than athletics exist? Radical: I like it. Kevin McE (talk) 13:50, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Maybe we should think about posting a box with links to multiple articles about the Olympics as we did for the COVID-19 pandemic last year. It's clear that the Summer Olympics are the main ongoing event in the world and the ongoing section cannot properly accommodate multiple links.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 14:18, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

The box for COVID was more as a attention-getting highlight because of its severity and that we felt the need that we wanted to do something to alert the readers of a global issue. Olympics is not of that severity, but we can add extra links to what are likely articles of high interest, which I agree include the medal table and WRs. I would propose a similar approach for any other ongoing where there is a subpage or two that would be a reasonable target article associated with the main ongoing event where that information isn't on the target page (eg when World Cup comes round, the tourney bracket structure if its not on the Cup's main page could be a possible target like this). --Masem (t) 14:26, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

I came here to propose exactly what Masem just suggested. --LukeSurl ^t c 14:19, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Wasn't that a suggestion at ITN talk, and completely shot down? Kingsif (talk) 14:31, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

There was a suggestion to have sports icons alongside the Olympics to point to every single major event. That was shot down. But having a couple side links is completely reasonable given that we already have one (the medal table). --Masem (t) 14:33, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Ah, well, I'm sure that would be a separate ongoing nom. Kingsif (talk) 14:39, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

• Strong oppose and, frankly, suggest close. Massively overloaded blurb, and the nominator has made it very clear that t(his) nom is for that blurb wording alone, rather than for the item (i.e. event, i.e. bold article) - which ITN noms are supposed to be. I suggest Kevin, who also stuck this nom outside the date template until I fixed it, actually learn the ITN rules before trying it again. The rules which also say that items have to be nommed to get posted, so nobody is actively saying swimming and cycling can't be posted and he should stop whining about it. Kingsif (talk) 14:39, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

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(Posted) Ongoing: 2020 Olympics

Article: 2020 Summer Olympics (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Jonas1015119 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Its now out of ITN, and I think it should be listed in some way. My proposal would be 2020 Summer Olympics (medal table). I agree with the criticism of the Chronological summary of the 2020 Summer Olympics article on this page, but linking to the medal table seems reasonable. Something similar should probably be standard procedure for future games, once the opening ceremony is no longer the top ITN item. jonas (talk) 17:27, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support - Seems like a good suggestion in my opinion.BabbaQ (talk) 17:35, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support Article is in good shape and we're already late. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 17:36, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Strong Support Long overdue - this should have been updated last week. There's no excuse or any valid argument against including this on the Ongoing section.
• Strong Support Such a major, worldwide, once-in-four(five)-years event should be added to Ongoing. The 2016 Summer Olympics were posted in Ongoing from the day it began. CosmicLycanroc (talk) 18:26, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support. I like Jonas1015119's suggestion of going with 2020 Summer Olympics (medal table). Ktin (talk) 20:23, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support. Seems a very simple solution to days of convoluted debate, accusation and and recrimination. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:26, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 21:50, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Such a shame that all the convoluted debate, accusation and recrimination couldn't have been answered with simple factual responses rather than endless and hopeless snide comments, but glad we got to a result that now re-shapes Ongoing. I assume that Stephen, having posted this, will now update ITNR to account for this anomaly. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 21:55, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Pull a couple of HOURS AGO it was made clear that the original potential item: Chronological summary of the 2020 Summer Olympics had been fixed up. This is a proper ONGOING item, and it's sad it's taken this long for all those complainants to fix it up, but it looks good enough now, and much more suitable that the article posted which is barely updated. Change the target, good job someone here is doing the job of the whining massive, shout out to NormalPerson7, sadly surrounded by pseudo-comedians and users who literally do nothing here. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 22:05, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

  You want a fact? The 2020 Summer Olympics are ongoing and the In The News box should state it as such. It really is that simple.

  Please replace this curious smorgasbord of links (neither of which has consensus) with the timeline, which at least has some kind of ITNR pedigree. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 22:13, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

  I promise to do nothing here, as long as I can be called a pseudo-comedian. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:18, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

  I'm just glad I'm not a sports fan (except for snooker, of course). – Sca (talk) 22:25, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

  No Martin, not a comedian at all. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 22:28, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

  No, he's not is he. Poor SCA. You can still be a snooker-pseud though. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:39, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

  Please Martin, take a break, stop responding to everything I post. It's bordering on bullying now. I'm sure you can find something better to do than continually harass me. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 22:43, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

  Sca, even the World Snooker Championship doesn't have the global impact of the Olympics, so it'll never get an "ongoing" slot. And I'm sure you're a real snooker fan, not a pseudo one as I suggested. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:59, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I foam at the mouth, on cue, at the sight of an 8-ball. – Sca (talk) 22:26, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

• Comment I agree that Chronological summary of the 2020 Summer Olympics is now well-referenced and ready for posting. That's the standard article we always post to document ongoing Olympics.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 22:16, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support 2020 Summer Olympics, strong oppose the chronology page. The Olympics themselves are ongoing, while the chronology is just fluff.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:18, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

  So let's change the ongoing criteria? The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 22:20, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

  Not really. Just treat this as a special case. It does get its own mention at WP:ITNSPORTS after all, and we already have COVID-19 pandemic as a perennial Ongoing item which also isn't updated on a daily basis either.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:34, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

  Actually, to be accurate, the ITNSPORTS link says it was the timeline which was accepted for 2016. The Covid article is a different matter altogether, it's not been updated properly and should be removed, but that's a red herring for this discussion. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 22:46, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

  I think what I'm saying here is that this is an appropriate case for WP:IAR to apply. The Olympics page isn't being updated daily (although actually it should be, but that's another matter) but it's the page that readers most want to see, by a significant margin.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:57, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• Reinstating the pull as we have an ongoing timeline article which is properly updated and sourced. Unless we're setting a new precedent here. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 22:27, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
  • I am extremely certain it is not standard procedure for one unhappy editor to put "PULL" in a heading because they don't like something. If it's an actual error you should ask for it to be pulled at WP:ERRORS, otherwise you really must wait for at least one editor to agree with you, no? User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 22:28, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
    • No, you don't get it. There's no evidence this article meets the Ongoing update criterion. We have timeline article (noted at WP:ITNR) which should go into ongoing, now it's been updated. This article is not appropriate for "Ongoing". I think you all know that. Whether you are "extremely certain" or not. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 22:31, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
      • The "evidence" is the 8 editors above who have supported this. I don't know or care what the Ongoing criterion are; there's certainly consensus that something about the Olympics should go there. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 22:34, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
        • Yes, correct. So the Ongoing criterion is now superseded. You don't care about it, but fuck that guideline. Glad the article which receives almost literally NO updates is now in the "Ongoing" section where "updates" are "continually" required. Well played. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 22:36, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose this is definitively not what the ongoing targets were supposed to be about. There's literally NOTHING in the target article about the ongoing events in the Olympic Games. The choice of two articles, one about the games, and a repeat, the medal table, is utterly shambolic. Neither give any indication as to the ongoing events and this project should be ashamed of this second-class choice, particularly in light of the work done on the timeline article. Embarrassing and pointed, this is junk and sets a clear precedent for literally any event to be added to Ongoing without any kind of substantial or useful update to our readers. Well done everyone, a proud moment. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 22:41, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• You're absolutely right. Full stop.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 23:01, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose quite conflicted here, as I appreciate the epic troll y'all are running on Rambling Man. But we shouldn't burn the whole project to the ground to do it. Just make fun of Thatcher or something. GreatCaesarsGhost 22:43, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• May I make the suggestion that we add Chronological summary of the 2020 Summer Olympics to the Ongoing section just as well as the Medal table. They are all three part of the Olympics. I see no reason to Pull neither of the other two articles part of the Ongoing section though. BabbaQ (talk) 22:47, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• There is zero reason to pull this, if we want to alter what is posted, we can do so. 331dot (talk) 22:51, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

  Thanks for your comments! The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 23:03, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• Post the timeline (per ITNR). Last chance saloon for me. This has dramatically changed my view on what the community believes "Ongoing" is for. We can now post things like the World Cup or the Euros because there's literally no updates to the articles in question, but "they're a big tournament". We will remember. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 23:02, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

  Sounds great! Glad we reached this solution.

• Ignoring everything else, I don't see why 2020 Summer Olympics medal table would be preferred to Chronological summary of the 2020 Summer Olympics, and would support swapping that for the second link. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 23:01, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

In my opinion that article should be added to Ongoing as well, along with the Medal table with the 2020 Summer Olympics as the main article. This is the biggest Sporting event in the world. So having three articles at Ongoing for a few more days would make sense. BabbaQ (talk) 23:04, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• Swap medal table for chronology. I'm not generally a fan of chronology articles (there's a very good reason the other item is COVID-19 pandemic, not Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic), but the chronology article here includes the winners of all the events, which is relevant in the newsy sense. I think the general Olympics article is the target readers more expect, though, so I would very much oppose removing that. Including two Olympics links is fine, but I wouldn't want to see more than that. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 23:15, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support Article has a continually updated medal table. Will China win? Stay tuned! InedibleHulk (talk) 01:30, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support The ongoing section was originally created for having a link the Olympics and then was built up since then. Appropriate to continue having a link since various events are on subpages that can be reached by the existing link. Has a clear starting and end point, unlike the vast majority of other events on Ongoing. Spencer^T•C 03:27, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Horrible choice to now instead cram two Olympic items to ongoing because the original proposal failed because Chronological summary of the 2020 Summer Olympics, the single link typically posted, is now a bloated set of tables and an egregious violation of MOS:COLLAPSE. I'm not a slave to the "Olympic spirit" marketing machine to WP:IAR this (though I am updating 2020 United States men's Olympic basketball team).—Bagumba (talk) 06:06, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

• Time to Close this nom. There will be no consensus to remove or add anything. Now only some bickering remains.BabbaQ (talk) 08:18, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
• Pull not choice for me. 114.125.233.94 (talk) 10:31, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
• Pull chronological article only not choice for me but it must only main article can be posted as ongoing. 116.206.35.25 (talk) 10:37, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
• Pull Unless there are unexpected reasons to be posted it. 202.67.42.35 (talk) 10:44, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Three IP !votes from the same geoplace. Suspicious.BabbaQ (talk) 11:10, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
    • ... and only joint 40th in the medals table? Martinevans123 (talk) 11:17, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
      • Now stands unopposed at 46th place! InedibleHulk (talk) 22:30, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
        • This is absolutely pointless. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 22:31, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per TRM. Surprised this hasn't been changed already given that the current situation goes against established policy. Effy Midwinter (talk) 20:40, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
• Pull not choice for me and please do not strike out my vote. 2600:387:F:4013:0:0:0:8 (talk) 18:58, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
• Participants here are invited to join a broader discussion at Wikipedia talk:In the news#The next Olympics: Appropriate article target(s) for ongoing items and other questions. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 18:56, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) World records

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Article: World and Olympic records set at the 2020 Summer Olympics (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ New world records are established in weightlifting, cycling, swimming, rowing, shooting and athletics at the Olympic Games in Tokyo. (Post)

Nominator's comments: There have been world records established in many sports, not just one. Kevin McE (talk) 16:40, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose lots of the cycling records are unreferenced. The article lacks a suitable introduction. Also, is the intention to extend this if records are beaten in other disciplines, to the point where it becomes the only news story in the ITN template? Also, rowing (for example) lists them as "world best" not "world records", this nuance doesn't come across in the blurb, so it's misleading. Either these are world records or they're not. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 17:18, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

The official weightlifting records are all from 2018+, pre-2018.5 records became historical interest-only with a weight class rearrangement. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 17:22, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

I was talking about rowing. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 17:24, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Lengthen the blurb some more with World records are set in weightlifting, cycling, swimming, shooting and athletics at the Tokyo Olympics, along with world bests in rowing.? Why not alphabetical order? Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 17:56, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose It's not really news that new world records are set during Summer Olympics because that always happens. The real news is when a world record is broken after a long period of time or by a significant margin.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 17:43, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

People always die and elections always have results too. Kevin McE (talk) 20:42, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

So we no longer need RD because we can post a blurb that links to deaths in 2021 as a target article. Don't we?--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 20:59, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Sure, as long as we can still argue there aren't enough sources. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:06, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

I wouldn't be surprised if a nomination with a proposed blurb "Sportspeople win medals at the 2020 Summer Olympics." arrives. And all such nominations come as a result of the reluctance to post the Olympics to ongoing.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 21:23, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

"Sportspeople win medals at a big event". A lot simpler, I think. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:31, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Yep, take a break now Martin, maybe a week or two. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 22:17, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose too vague to be meaningful. An "ongoing" for the Olympics is one thing, this is just silly. What's next? "Football matches occur in England, Germany, Spain, and France"? User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 20:44, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

  What? Football matches occur is not equivalent to world records are set. I don't know, perhaps you're just testing us, this is patently absurd. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 21:56, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

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(Posted, Closed) 400m hurdles world record

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Articles: Karsten Warholm (talk · history · tag) and Athletics at the 2020 Summer Olympics – Men's 400 metres hurdles (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In athletics, Karsten Warholm sets a new world record in men's 400 meter hurdles (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In athletics at the 2020 Summer Olympics, Yulimar Rojas breaks a 26-year-old world record in the women's triple jump and Karsten Warholm sets a new world record in men's 400 metres hurdles (both pictured).
Alternative blurb II: ​ In athletics, Norwegian Karsten Warholm sets a new world record in men's 400 meter hurdles
News source(s): NYT, Reuters, Guardian, [17] SI
Article updated

Nominator's comments: New outlets use "smashes" "decimates" "pulverizes" "destroys" "crushes" "blazing" to describe the new achievement. This record is 0.76 sec faster than the previous 46 second one, some 1.6% improvement -- equivalent to 0.15 sec improvement to Bolt's 100m dash. The silver medal guy also smashed the previous record. A month ago same guy broke the 29-year old record, but I don't recall that being posted. Should be able to merge this into the existing athletics WR blurb which was "only" a 1% improvement. 2A02:2F0E:D519:8B00:B55E:38C2:4BD5:B678 (talk) 07:51, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• I'd support merging the two athletics world records, it even gives us the opportunity to have a direct link to the Olympics in the blurb. --Tone 08:27, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support simply because this is perhaps one of the most outstanding results in the history of athletics. It's extremely rare to see a race in which the first two athletes have run way better than the world record and 0.76 seconds in 400 m is really a huge margin.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:39, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Comment agree with support rationale above. Just noting a few of the results in the table are unsourced (but happy to try and find some). Also not sure if this would get subsumed by the proposed "on-going" nomination (if that succeeds). Martinevans123 (talk) 08:45, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Comment - we've already set a precedent by posting the triple jump, although I still think this is ridiculously unfair on the swimmers who set world records and weren't posted. So probably, as Tone says, let's fold this in to the triple jump story. And preferably add the swimming records too. That said, I don't think this is as surprising as the margin or the hyperbole above would suggest. Of course, the athletes today are strong, but comparing their times to those of the past is apples to oranges, as a result of changes in the spikes used on their boots.[18]  — Amakuru (talk) 08:48, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• I'm pretty sure the swimmers don't use spiked boots. Maybe just the diving? Martinevans123 (talk) 08:55, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

  Perhaps some spiked goggles though? [19]  — Amakuru (talk) 09:22, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• I thought the pole vault record was the precedent. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 09:34, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• I'd like to see world records in other sports being posted but the problem is that no-one nominates them.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 09:53, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Amakuru The winner didn't use the new spikes (the 2nd place guy did). Black Kite (talk) 22:23, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• • @Black Kite: Ah OK, my bad then. That certainly makes the new record seem more spectacular.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:27, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• Comment: i am reclutant to support it to be posted unless the blurb can be considered ITNR. But, the article is a good shape. 36.77.94.77 (talk) 10:59, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support and fold it in to the other WR. This does need to be posted, though, because it's an astonishing destruction of the previous record. Black Kite (talk) 11:21, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support New World Record. And a great one. Definitely for ITN.BabbaQ (talk) 12:21, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support good record, great from Warholm. No opinion on combining the athletics records into one blurb, but someone could montage their photos if that gets support. Kingsif (talk) 12:49, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose There have been many records set, in swimming, rowing, cycling and probably other sports as well: if we do not have the equanimity to mention all of them, mention none (i.e., pull triple jump too). Otherwise we are declaring the POV that one Olympic sport is more important than others.Kevin McE (talk) 13:49, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

  Would we also mention "records", set for the first time, at new events e.g. Mixed Triathlon Relay and Freestyle BMX? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:59, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• If it's an event that has history, like BMX (X-games), then that could get posted posted. New to Olympics doesn't matter, right? But setting a record in a new event shouldn't. I think I heard that the new triathlon event has been trialled before, but I don't know if that time was used to set the record? Kingsif (talk) 14:17, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• Sounds reasonable. The GB time of 1:23:41 for the Mixed Triathlon Relay is, of course, the current Olympic record. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:26, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• This is like claiming that not posting every death in RD is saying some people were more important than others when, simply, nobody nominated RDs that would have been posted. If you want to see every new record posted, it's on you to nominate them all. Of course, some record breaks are seen as more newsworthy (i.e. actually ITN) than others: long-held records, those broken by a big margin, and those in sports like track and field which are contested by people from lots of countries, are generally in the news much more than someone taking 0.001 second off their own record in a sport only their nation cares about. Kingsif (talk) 14:17, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• There's always hope for 2024, I guess. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:30, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• Would that be in track and field or some new summer biathlon, I wonder. Kingsif (talk) 16:19, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• In the field, I suspect. Along with the shooting. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:36, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• Support, as this world record is newsworthy. If you feel other world records being set are also newsworthy, feel free to nominate those, but don't oppose this one for that reason.Jackattack1597 (talk) 14:57, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support and agree with the sentiments above that this is an "overhaul"-standard record-breaking effort. Much like those others which we've posted lately. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:13, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Comment this appears to have significant consensus to post, I marked it a while back but no willing admin yet. Suggest this is dealt with expediently and then we'll see what happens with the plethora of other Olympic nominations, premature or otherwise. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 17:16, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per Kevin McE. It's the Olympic Games, didn't you all expect the world records to be broken? In the end, that this happens has a lesser impact on society than the personal one of the achiever. If we don't even have the Olympics ongoing, it's nonsense that we have to put on the Main Page every single record that is broken. It's not pragmatic, neither a Sports page. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 17:22, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

  Nobody (other than Kevin) is suggesting we link to every record broken. Just those which are significantly broken, whether that be by a notable margin or from a notable period of time. We don't have to put on the Main Page every single record that is broken, self-evidently that hasn't happened. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 17:26, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• You severely overestimate how many world records are broken at the Olympics, they're not gold medals. There's probably an article somewhere comparing world records and Olympic records. If you want to oppose with the argument that breaking a world record is something that is "just personal for the achiever", well, should no awards ever be posted? There's a lot of ITN/R gone... Kingsif (talk) 17:45, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose the blurb that is proposed currently. The most notable and important thing about this event is that both the gold and silver medallist set a time that was quicker than the existing world record. This a very rare occurence and that is what the blurb should deal with.Tvx1 17:40, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• That makes this world record more outstanding but I disagree that a blurb should mention it. The second fastest time, albeit significantly better than the previous world record, is not a world record itself. I prefer including the exact margin in the blurb instead of this.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 17:45, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• I don’t care about the individual merits of the second time. It’s about the event as whole. If you want to highlight this sport event in the in the news section, than it needs to convey the key elements why it is notable. And both the winner and the runner-up setting a time quicker than the existing world record is a key element of this event.Tvx1 19:19, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• I understand your point but the news is the world record and that's what should be included in the blurb. The results of the other athletes, including the time of the runner-up and the total of six national records set, should find their place in the race summary, which is indeed the case because the summary is very well written and captures all relevant details about the race.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 20:01, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• The nom isn't for "400 m hurdles event". And even if it were, a blurb cannot mention every notable aspect of the event. Compare it to awards ceremonies: merely happening is deemed blurbworthy, and by tradition our blurbs mention the top result, even if something interesting happened in a different part. Kingsif (talk) 20:10, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• Again, I don’t care about the unique merits of the other athletes. I’m referring to the combined achievement of the first two. It’s that unique achievement which is actually in the news. It’s not some detail and did not happen in a different part of the race. It’s the most important event of it.Tvx1 10:24, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

• Strong Support - Changing my stance to strong support. This is indeed an "overhaul"-standard record-breaking effort. BabbaQ (talk) 18:51, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Comment I would be ok with merging it into the triple jump story, but oppose a separate blurb, as with the Olympics looking set to be added to Ongoing as well, that's enough representation of the games on ITN I think. Pawnkingthree (talk) 20:53, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Comment still confused as to why this hasn't been posted. It has community consensus to do so. Are admins now making personal choices on what to promote, based on the fact that a newer item has been posted since this was ready to go? The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 21:58, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. We have the Olympics Ongoing handle now to cover all the twists and turns. Pull the triple jump too. As Kevin McE says (and I said below) there are numerous records being set, and we shouldn't editorialise which ones we post.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:11, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

We literally "editorialize" everything we post. Why one plane crash and not another? Why one death and not another? Are they all nommed, and after the nom, it's a democracy, people vote. If they vote for one record and not another with sensible reasoning, so be it. If this is in the news and not another record, all the more reason to "editorialize", a word you're incorrectly using in place of "fulfilling the ITN goals". Kingsif (talk) 22:19, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Fine. Oppose withdrawn. Support double blurb though.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:32, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 22:12, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

  @Stephen: OK why? There's no consensus here whatsoever. Please pull.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:15, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

  I'd say there's strong support for posting this. What did I miss? The oppose seems to be "meh, stop posting world records", the support seems to be "wow, highly publicised world record smash which is strongly in the news and for which we have an article". What did I miss? The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 22:19, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

  That there’s no consensus on what the blurb should contain.Tvx1 10:24, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

• @Stephen: Comments seem to indicate a preference for a double-blurb; in any case, discussion should continue on that even though it's been posted. Kingsif (talk) 22:21, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• Comment this had strong consensus to post. Not sure how that can be denied. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 22:25, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

  A combined blurb would be a better reflection of all the comments here. Pawnkingthree (talk) 22:28, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

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(Posted) Ongoing: 2021 Taliban offensive

Article: 2021 Taliban offensive (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Sherenk1 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Viewsridge (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Ongoing, look to capture major cities. Sherenk1 (talk) 02:56, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• Comment I nominated this article two weeks ago and it didn't go anywhere. The nomination will probably have more support after one of the provincial capitals falls Scaramouche33 (talk) 07:22, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose proseline, wall of reactions. Nominate for a blurb when something significant happens. --LaserLegs (talk) 10:44, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Comment – UN says 40 killed in fighting over Lashkargah. – Sca (talk) 12:20, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
• Comment the news seems to think that the bulk of fighting is in Lashkar Gah and it's getting bad. If they take Helmand province, that would be the blurb. Pending article update, of course. Kingsif (talk) 12:51, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

  Well, these place names don't mean much to most English speakers, I'm afraid, so I guess we'd be back (at least partly) to weighing the death toll. BTW, that BBC story did say 40 civilians killed. – Sca (talk) 14:00, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• Wait. I am convinced that this will be blurb-worthy when the Taliban take Kandahar city (or Kabul, but that seems further away). Re-nominate for a blurb when that happens. Modest Genius ^talk 15:59, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

  Maybe. Kandahar (pop.: 650,000) is at least somewhat more familiar to English speakers. – Sca (talk) 18:55, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose We posted the "peace agreement" which was understood by all as ceding the country to the Taliban. I have no objection to a second blurb when the job is done, but we don't need to post each territorial gain any more than we need to cite that the sky is blue. GreatCaesarsGhost 01:25, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support It's a process, clearly ongoing, citations look adequate (and I know these places from 25 years of exclusively English news, for whatever that's worth). InedibleHulk (talk) 01:48, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support The Taliban now control the majority of Afghanistan. They attacked Kabul on 3 Aug. Jim Michael (talk) 18:56, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support I imagine that by 21 July, half of Afghanistan was under Taliban control qualifies as "something significant". And of course all this on the back of the US and other nations announcing they will be withdrawing their forces from NATO's involvement there. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 19:00, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support As it's not a blurb, the minimal update for August seems satisfactory. Kingsif (talk) 20:53, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 00:07, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

@Stephen: can we keep the COVID-19 link left justified in "ongoing" since it's going to be there for another 2 or 3 years it makes sense to keep it in the same place. --LaserLegs (talk) 20:58, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

• Post-posting comment – Seems to be on the boil, with three key towns taken. [20] [21] [22] [23] [24] – Sca (talk) 12:28, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

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