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Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

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Nominations

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Articles created/expanded on November 16

Hey, Jeannie!

• ... that early in their careers Chuck Connors and Mike Connors guest starred in Jeannie Carson's short-lived CBS sitcom Hey, Jeannie!?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 22:31, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

... that English actress Jeannie Carson's attempt at series television, on CBS and in syndication, failed with her 1956-1958 sitcom Hey, Jeannie!?

Can you complete ref. 2 please? Materialscientist (talk) 23:33, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Reference 2 completed. Billy Hathorn (talk) 04:58, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

• The main reference for this article doesn't appear to conform with WP:V, it's an anonymous website, and there is no information about where the data is sourced. Gatoclass (talk) 05:12, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• added this book source Lost Laughs of '50s and '60s Television:Thirty Sitcoms That Faded Off Screen --Esemono (talk) 07:36, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

It's also a problem with hook 1 that no mention is made of the guest stars appearing early in their careers. It's a problem with hook 2 that the article does not mention this is "Jeannie Carson's attempt at series television." Not clear in the article if she made any other attempts. --La comadreja _{formerly AFriedman} RESEARCH (talk) 06:16, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 18

Heraclius (brother of Tiberius III), Heraclius (son of Constans II), Tiberius (son of Constans II)

• ... that Constantine IV's attempt to demote his brothers and Byzantine co-emperors Heraclius and Tiberius prompted a revolt from military officers who believed that, as Heaven was ruled by the Trinity, the empire should also be governed by three emperors?

• Comment: I'll attempt to shorten this hook.--PFHLai (talk) 00:39, 20 November 2010 (UTC) Now 251 characters, but probably still too long. --PFHLai (talk) 19:32, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Created by Oatley2112 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 00:39, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

• How about ALT1: ... that Constantine IV's attempt to demote Byzantine co-emperors Heraclius and Tiberius prompted a revolt from military officers, who believed that the empire should be governed by three emperors? - PM800 (talk) 20:34, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, PM800. But right now, I'd like to nominate Heraclius (brother of Tiberius III) and make a triple-DYK hook. Let me think.... :-) --PFHLai (talk) 23:11, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

• (triple hook #1)... that Heraclius, a Byzantine general executed in 705, was the brother of deposed emperor Tiberius III, whereas Heraclius, mutilated in 681, was himself a co-emperor dethroned along with his brother Tiberius?

• (triple hook #2)... that when Tiberius was dethroned in 681, he and his brother and Byzantine co-emperor Heraclius were mutilated, but after Tiberius III was deposed in 705, he and his brother Heraclius were executed?
  

Created by Cplakidas (talk) & Oatley2112 (talk). --PFHLai (talk) 03:38, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

• The original hook is far more interesting imo. The triple hooks are just confusing. How about: ALT2-3: ... that a belief that the Empire should, like Heaven, have three co-rulers, led to a revolt when Constantine IV attempted to demote his brothers Heraclius and Tiberius? Johnbod (talk) 14:46, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

• Agree that the original hook is better and more interesting. There is also really no basis for a comparison between the cases of Tiberius and Heraclius the co-emperors and TIberius III and his brother, as the latter had actually usurped the throne. Constantine ✍ 14:20, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
• I agree the original hook was best too. However I'm not all that keen on the fact that two new articles have been created - one about each brother - with almost identical text; it seems unnecessary duplication. If all the pertinent facts about them are applicable to both, then I would have thought that a single merged article was to be preferred (per WP:Merging). For that reason I have put merge templates on each page, and opened discussion at Talk:Heraclius (son of Constans II)#Merge discussion. DavidWard ^talk 21:42, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Well, I find it quite interesting that two unrelated pairs of brothers with the same two names had eerily similar fates a generation apart, except that the violence has escalated over time. But if no one else finds this interesting, never mind. How about this (based on John's):

• ALT3: ... that a belief that the Byzantine Empire should, as in Heaven, have three co-rulers, led to a revolt when Constantine IV attempted to demote his brothers and co-emperors Heraclius and Tiberius?

I don't mind the merge. Just please don't do this merging while the pages are linked from MainPage. It's better to merge them before they go on DYK-Q or after they go off MainPage. Thanks. I'll try to come up with a new hook for the other Heraclius. --PFHLai (talk) 14:01, 26 November 2010 (UTC) I am unable to come up with any interesting hook material for the other Heraclius to have a single hook, so I hope someone else besides me find my triple-hook interesting. Otherwise, please ignore this other Heraclius and use the double-hook. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 13:44, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

• If you use a hook about Political mutilation you should link it to: Political mutilation in Byzantine culture -- Esemono (talk) 04:15, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 19

The Ford Show

• ... that Tennessee Ernie Ford closed most episodes of his 1956-1961 NBC series, The Ford Show, with a hymn?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:42, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that the NBC television series The Ford Show referred to the sponsor, the Ford Motor Company, rather than the star, Tennessee Ernie Ford?

• The ALT1 hook is better and is verified through the cite given and Google Books, and the creation date is okay. But much of the article size is taken up with a very long list (strangely formatted) of guest stars. This is inappropriate content based on WP:NOTADIR. This long list needs to be removed from the article, and replaced by something that summarizes what kind of guest stars the show attracted. The "Program Notes" section of the article also suffers from mostly not being about this program, but other programs. Wasted Time R (talk) 13:41, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

• Correction made Billy Hathorn (talk) 00:57, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

• The "Other guest stars" section needs to be removed completely. The "Program procedures" section should come first, before the "Selected guest stars" section. The "Miscellany" section should be retitled "Scheduling" or something like that. Wasted Time R (talk) 01:25, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Death panels (political term)

• ... outrageous, nuts, startling, make believe, a lie, and politics were words used to describe what Sarah Palin (pictured) found, after she called it like she saw it, and saw death panels?

Created by Jesanj (talk). Self nom at 04:03, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

• Sorry, don't mean to be rude, but the hook makes no sense to me. Further (i) regular DYK hooks should not be misleading, as some news titles, (ii) Palin was surely called by many dozens of terms and words. It is unclear why should they be repeated in this hook (personal opinion of unclear notability). Materialscientist (talk) 06:15, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

• I'm not sure as to what exactly you find misleading. Perhaps it was that she "saw" as in physically. That is a figure of speech she used in a October 2010 Newsmax interview. I was trying to make it interesting and weird so people would click on it. By the way, these descriptors are for death panels, not Palin herself. Must the notability of the descriptors be defined in the hook, although they are already established in the article? Jesanj (talk) 18:23, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Blatantly POV hook. - The Bushranger _{Return fire}^{Flank speed} 06:28, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

• I thought POV occurs when we aren't reflecting what reliable sources say. Outrageous: American Dialect Society; Nuts: Sen. Johnny Isakson (R-GA); Startling: David Casarett, MD, MA, prof of medicine at UPenn & Medical Director at a VA Hospital; [M]ake believe: bioethicist George Annas from an Oxford University Press published book; Lie: PolitiFact.com; Politics: Atul Gawande, MD, author, Harvard professor, surgeon, journalist. It seems neutral to me to use this terminology. Jesanj (talk) 18:23, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

• Chiming in because I saw this one, yeah that hook won't fly, but it could be: ... that Sarah Palin coined the term death panels in 2009 regarding Health care reform in the United States?--Milowent • ^talkblp-r 13:10, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

I should note there seems to have been a debate in the past whether this article should exist. see Talk:Death panel.--Milowent • ^talkblp-r 14:36, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

• Yes, I noticed those discussions after I wrote the page. It appears that was before publications/papers that discuss the term and its problems/repercussions etc., were being cited (as some hadn't been published) such as:

Brendan Nyhan (2010). "Why the "Death Panel" Myth Wouldn't Die: Misinformation in the Health Care Reform Debate" (PDF). The Forum. 8 (1). Berkeley Electronic Press. doi:10.2202/1540-8884.1354.

Kettl P (2010). "One Vote for Death Panels". JAMA. 303 (13): 1234–5. doi:10.1001/jama.2010.376. PMID 20371773. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)

Corn BW (2009). "Ending end-of-life phobia — a prescription for enlightened health care reform". N. Engl. J. Med. 361 (27): e63. doi:10.1056/NEJMp0909740. PMID 20018960. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help) Jesanj (talk) 18:23, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

The previous existence of the article "Death panel" (here) might be a factor in determining whether it belongs at DYK. However, that article content is long gone, it seems to have focused on the concept of death panels while the new article focuses on the term, and the new article is about 4x longer. --Orlady (talk) 21:30, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

• Originally I had something more like this in mind before I started appying the descriptors to the term: (ALT2) ... that Sarah Palin (pictured) called it like she saw it, and coined the term death panels, earning her the "Lie of the Year" for 2009 from PolitiFact.com? Jesanj (talk) 18:23, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Here's a possible ALT hook derived from the lead of the article. It focuses on the term, not the person:

• ALT2 ... that the term "death panels," which Sarah Palin (pictured) coined on her Facebook page, was named "Lie of the Year" by PolitiFact.com and the "Most Outrageous" word of 2009 by the American Dialect Society? --Orlady (talk) 21:30, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

• Looks good. Thanks. Jesanj (talk) 04:18, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

• I, personally, believe the subject is too political-POVish for Wikipedia, but I can't fault the hook, and I won't buck the flow if everybody else thinks its OK. :) - The Bushranger _{Return fire}^{Flank speed} 18:32, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

I've moved this from the prep queue back here for further discussion, per talk page concerns. 28bytes (talk) 16:55, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

I do have some concerns about this one, however I don't have time to outline them now, I will have to return to this tomorrow. However I will say that one of my concerns is that the article appears to be taking a position on the topic instead of just quoting reliable sources. Gatoclass (talk) 17:24, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

WP:NOTCENSORED. Put it back. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 ^{> haneʼ} 17:37, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I have to agree with Gatoclass here. The article does have a bit of a slant to it. Once that's resolved there shouldn't be any problem promoting it again. (And WP:NOTCENSORED doesn't apply here. DYK may not be FA, but we do have some discretion here what gets promoted and when.) 28bytes (talk) 19:45, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I am looking forward to hearing suggestions and making improvements. I suppose the abstract of this review published in the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine sums up the POV I think is reflected in the article—that "the existence of 'death panels', can easily be dismissed". (Desai M, Rachet B, Coleman MP, McKee M (2010). "Two countries divided by a common language: health systems in the UK and USA". J R Soc Med. 103 (7): 283–7. doi:10.1258/jrsm.2010.100126. PMID 20595532. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)) I think this POV is probably reflected in the article because it reflects mainstream scholarship and professional opinion on the issue. Thus my multiple citations from Health Affairs publications. Also, do a quick google search on what Uwe Reinhardt or Gail Wilensky have said on this issue. They are mainstream experts on health care reform. I think their opinions should be added but I have yet to get there. Thanks. Jesanj (talk) 04:07, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

I'll wait for Gatoclass to chime in with his specific concerns before getting too in-depth here, but I'll just note that using the words "myth" and "lie" in the headers is one symptom of the article's POV problem, IMO. Additional reliable sources are welcome, of course, but I think the primary concern is that the article appears to "endorse" the existing sources. It will take a little work to fix that, but I think it's quite doable. 28bytes (talk) 04:28, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

The more I look at the article, the more it looks to me to be irredeemable. It presents the information from a particular perspective instead of taking a neutral stance and simply presenting what various sources have said and allowing the reader to make up his own mind. I'm happy to see what 28bytes can come up with, but I have my doubts the article is fixable with just a tweak here and there. Gatoclass (talk) 05:04, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm not going to say that the article isn't POV (it is, and it has too many quotes), but if the claim is/was verifiably a myth, I don't see a problem with that being reflected in the article. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 05:09, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

If I came to this article knowing nothing about the topic, I would not leave it enlightened as to how the term is "verifiably a myth". I just see competing claims, albeit presented in a one-sided manner. Apart from which, NPOV requires that information is presented neutrally, we are not supposed to be taking sides. I think that's especially important when it comes to major political debates. I don't want to be giving conservatives more ammunition to be attacking Wikipedia as a supposedly biased "liberal" enclave, I think we have to try and be scrupulously neutral when it comes to a debate like this. Gatoclass (talk) 05:44, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

OK, I've redone the lead section. I'm going to tackle the rest of it tomorrow. Suggestions/comments/improvements are welcome, although those should probably be made at Talk:Death panels (political term) rather than here. Incidentally, is there any reason why the article is not at Death Panels? It probably ought to be moved there, and the history merged. 28bytes (talk) 07:46, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

I don't understand why this edit is neutral because both[1][2](p. 8) sources use the word false. Jesanj (talk) 14:10, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

As I mentioned above, the article appears to strongly "endorse" the views of the sources rather than simply present them. I wouldn't worry overmuch about that specific diff, since that whole paragraph is going to get redone. There are just way too many cases of the article saying something is "false", "a myth", "a lie", etc., which makes Wikipedia appear to take sides rather than be an disinterested observer. I'm going to attempt to fix that later today. 28bytes (talk) 18:35, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Brazil–Portugal relations

• ... that Brazil and Portugal have a privileged relationship as a result of the Portuguese Empire?

Created by Lihaas (talk). Self nom at 01:42, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

• ready, while undergoing further expansion as it was just created recently.Lihaas (talk) 02:01, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

• The proposed hook is obvious and dull, and should be replaced by something readers won't know. The article has at least two challenge tags ([citation needed], [where?]) that need to be fixed before it hits the main page. The references have short-form book cites (Bethel, Alden, etc) with no long-form base entry anywhere. Some of the other references are nearly bare ("Gringoes", "Portugal - Brazil and East Timor"). Wasted Time R (talk) 12:23, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Would it be less obvious and dull if the hook says "except in 1894, ..."? --PFHLai (talk) 03:31, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

• I don't think we can take the Portugese government's word that it has a "privileged" relationship with Brazil, as it could be taken as self-serving. I think either an independent source would be required or a new hook found. Gatoclass (talk) 05:49, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

The refs are formatted using reflinks, should be good. The offline refs were done by another editor, who i just notified of the update/cleaning needed. Fact tags are now clean, and the "where" tag is cleaned.Lihaas (talk) 09:55, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that the Portuguese Royalty, moved to Brazil to escape the French invasion of Portugal making the Brazil–Portugal relations a unique relationship?

Or something along those lines. --Esemono (talk) 04:20, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• ALT2 ... that when the Portuguese Royalty moved to Brazil to escape the French invasion of Portugal the Brazil–Portugal relationship was of a former colony ruling the Portuguese Empire?

Page is ready to go now, but think the 2 alternatives are too long-winded. Perhapts:

• ALT3 ... that the move by Portuguese Royalty moved initiated a privileged relationship with Brazil?Lihaas (talk) 09:55, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

ALT3 doesn't parse – "move" is in there twice. ALT2 is the best of these, but I think it needs a comma after "the French invasion of Portugal". Wasted Time R (talk) 11:54, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

good point:

• ALT3... that the Transfer of the Portuguese Court to Brazil by Portuguese Royalty moved initiated a privileged relationship with Brazil?Lihaas (talk) 09:55, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 20

Ludvig Karsten, The blue Kitchen

• ... that Norwegian neo-impressionist painter Ludvig Karsten is represented at the National Gallery of Norway with several paintings, including The blue Kitchen (pictured) from 1913?

• ALT1:... that Norwegian neo-impressionist painter Ludvig Karsten (self portrait) is represented at art museums in Oslo, Stockholm and Copenhagen?

5x expanded by Hauganm (talk), Oceanh (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 21:51, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

• Neither the article nor the hooks are interesting reading. The article is barely above the 1500 limit and much space is taken by names. Given the recent (and justified) criticism of Margrethe Munthe at WT:DYK I would request higher quality from something to be featured on the main page. Materialscientist (talk) 08:27, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

• I think getting several paintings in a National Gallery qualifies as exceptional, so I'm verifying this one. There doesn't appear to be an alt hook in the article in any case. Gatoclass (talk) 11:23, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• On second thoughts, I think this hook would be a lot more attractive if it included an article on the painting Blue kitchen itself, or one of Karsten's other works. Gatoclass (talk) 11:36, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• Ok, I have written an article on the painting (The blue Kitchen), as requested. Will try to add some more to the Karsten biography. Oceanh (talk) 23:13, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

2010–11 Atlantic 10 Conference men's basketball season

• ... that Richmond's Kevin Anderson was named the preseason Player of the Year of the 2010–11 Atlantic 10 Conference men's basketball season?

Created by Editorofthewiki (talk). Self nom at 01:20, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

• The source says that Anderson is on the Preseason First Team and Preseason All-Defensive team, but it doesn't say anything about the Preseason Player of the Year. - PM800 (talk) 18:07, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Yes it does. Look in the second paragraph of "preseason". ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 23:02, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
    • I know that it says "Preseason Player of the Year" in the second paragraph of "Preseason" in the article. However, I was talking about what was in the actual cited source (reference #4). - PM800 (talk) 23:19, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
      • "Four of the five student-athletes represented on last year's A-10 All-Conference First Team were named to this year's Preseason First Team including the reigning A-10 Player of the Year in Richmond's Kevin Anderson." This pretty much means he was preseason POY. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 22:02, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
        • I thought that preseason and postseason awards were separate things...? - PM800 (talk) 23:00, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Who is this Kevin Anderson? His fans may find this hook interesting, but ... who is this guy? Does he deserve a wikibio? --PFHLai (talk) 05:07, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Kevfin Anderson is quite notable. Go ahead and start his article; it's on my to-do list. Some sources predict he will be a second-round choice in the 2011 NBA Draft. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 22:02, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Francis Wingfield

• ... that when Francis Wingfield was elected MP for Stamford in 1660, a previous MP was also listed and the Alderman of Stamford had to travel to Parliament to correct the return?

Created by Rich Farmbrough (talk). Self nom at 02:42, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

If anyone can improve the wording - great. Rich Farmbrough, 02:42, 21 November 2010 (UTC).

doesn't appear to meet 1500 characters, when the entire article is only 1228, and 854 of that is a block quote. Worm 14:27, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Hm I must have gone on bytes... there is more material on the talk page, and I'm visiting the Museum tomorrow, to see what they have. Rich Farmbrough, 17:17, 29 November 2010 (UTC).

Nels Johnson, Century tower clocks

• ... that Nels Johnson built Century tower clocks (Milwaukee City Hall tower clock example pictured) - clocks designed to last 100 years?

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 23:14, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

• This doesn't directly affect the DYK nomination, but I note that Johnson died in 1915 and most of his clocks were built more than 100 years ago. It would be nice if one of these articles went into detail about how many of the clocks actually lasted 100 years (or, if they didn't, what happened to them; one can't blame Johnson if a building was torn down before his clock stopped working). --Metropolitan90 (talk) 18:34, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Good comment! I know that several of his clocks, most built around 1900 plus or minus 10 years are STILL going. I'll have to research this and add to the article, as that would be interesting information. One such tower clock is the Mason County courthouse tower clock. It was installed in 1906, but originally built in 1892 and installed originally in a church. It is about 3 blocks from where I live and I hear it "bong" every hour accurately, day in and day out 24-7-365. Interestingly, lately it has been "bonging" 13 times for 1 o'clock, day or night! That started around Halloween.--Doug Coldwell ^talk 23:17, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Assuming you don't want to change anything re the above comment (100 years on), Date and length verified for both articles, offline sources accepted on good faith (especially due to the title!)--Worm 10:37, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Added Gallery of "Nels Johnson tower clocks over 100 years old".--Doug Coldwell ^talk 13:41, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

tkWWW

• ... that the tkWWW web browser, released May 1993, was the first X11 HTML editor?

Created by Mabdul (talk). Self nom at 19:58, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALt1:... that the tkWWW web browser was so modular that there exists other web browser and web crawlers upon?

• The problem with the online cite in the article to the fact in the hook ("was the first X11 HTML editor") is that this claim is made by the author of the software, not an independent source. Is there an independent cite for this fact? - Tim1965 (talk) 01:48, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

another reference is visible at google books (the second book: "Managing Internet information services"). Is this enough or do I need for more? mabdul 13:06, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• That works for that cite. There appears to be a broader issue with the article, though, regarding verifiability and lack of neutral third-party sources. DYK general rule five requires that articles meet general Wikipedia guidelines on verifiability before being approved for DYK. That would need to happen in order for the hook to be approved. - Tim1965 (talk) 14:38, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• Yeah I know. When I did the nomination "everything was fine". I'm working on that. mabdul 14:40, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

The Pat Boone Chevy Showroom

• ... that until The Donny & Marie Show in 1976, Pat Boone, 23 in 1957, had been the youngest person in television history to host a network variety show, ABC's The Pat Boone Chevy Showroom?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 19:57, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

• I can't agree with the hook (which is sourced only to Pat Boone's own web site). Donny & Marie (1976 TV series) was hosted by Donny Osmond and Marie Osmond, both of whom were younger for the entire three-year run of their show than Boone was when he started his variety show. The Keane Brothers were even younger than Donny and Marie when they had their variety show for four weeks in 1977. I recommend finding a different hook. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 23:00, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

• I still can't agree with the hook as revised. There is no source provided that says what the hook currently says. I know that Donny & Marie were younger than Pat Boone when they had their variety show, but how do we know someone younger than Boone didn't host a variety show between 1957 and 1976? The source provided, which is Pat Boone's own web site, only says, "Boone became the youngest person to have his own weekly musical variety show". But if whoever wrote the biography didn't know about Donny & Marie or the Keane Brothers, maybe there were other young hosts they didn't know about either. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 18:28, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

ALT:... that ABC's The Pat Boone Chevy Showroom (1957-1960) invited numerous African American singers to perform, including Pearl Bailey, Count Basie, Ella Fitzgerald, Johnny Mathis, and The Mills Brothers?

Articles created/expanded on November 21

Mao's Great Famine: The History of China's Most Devastating Catastrophe, 1958-62

• ... that after the Mao's Great Famine: The History of China's Most Devastating Catastrophe, 1958-62, Mao Tsetung was seen as a monster, in the same league as Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin?

Created by Arilang1234 (talk). Self nom at 07:50, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

• The book and topic are quite worthy of main page mention, but there are significant problems. The article is only 925 B readable prose size, short of the required 1500. The last sentence of the article is largely a copyvio from one of the reviews. The hook needs work as well, since many people have long considered Mao a monster on par with Hitler and Stalin and given that the book has only recently come out, it's premature to say whether it will affect public opinion (in the West or in China) on Mao. Wasted Time R (talk) 14:47, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
• objection to the hook: the book was released two months ago. It's too early to pass judgements about its influence. And say it frankly: didn't you know it (about Mao) before? East of Borschov 21:20, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that during the Mao's Great Famine: The History of China's Most Devastating Catastrophe, 1958-62, among the 45 million premature deaths, at least 2 to 3 millions Chinese were buried alive, tortured or beaten to death.?
• I have changed the hook, and added more content to the article, and hope that that is OK now. Arilang ^talk 00:08, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

• No, unfortunately, it isn't. The article still has a copyvio in it. The expansion of the article is with a bullet points list, which doesn't count in the readable prose stats. You have removed the old hook instead of showing an alternate, which makes this discussion hard to follow. And your new hook reads as though it is about the famine, when the hook needs to be about the book. Wasted Time R (talk) 00:30, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

• Could someone else suggest an alternative hook? Arilang ^talk 01:06, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT2 ... that 2010 book Mao's Great Famine: The History of China's Most Devastating Catastrophe, 1958–62 states that 2–3 million Chinese were buried alive, tortured, or beaten to death during the famine?
• This will keep the point of your ALT1 hook but be about the book rather than the famine itself. But you still have a copyvio problem that has to be fixed before this can go on the main page. Consider this text from one of the book's reviews: "In terms of Mao's reputation this book leaves the Chairman for dead, as a monster in the same league as Hitler and Stalin - [...] It is a mark of the historical darkness that still envelops China that many Chinese blame the famine on the Soviet Union, which, they maintain, snatched food from the mouths of starving Chinese by insisting that Beijing export grain to repay Moscow's loans." Now look at this prose (not quoted) from your article: "thus putting Mao Tse-tung in the same league as Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin; and yet many Chinese still blame the famine on the Soviet Union, since they falsely believe that it was Soviet Union who was snatching food from the mouths of starving Chinese by insisting that Beijing export grain to repay Moscow's loans." Way too similar. Wasted Time R (talk) 01:49, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

• The copyvio was removed by someone, but now the article is a bit underlength and has been tagged for being written as a list. Wasted Time R (talk) 01:24, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

• Further work has been done. No tags remain; length, date, and ALT2 hook are okay. Good to go. Wasted Time R (talk) 13:21, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

• I have returned this one from the queue as it's clearly not ready for mainpage exposure. Apart from the fact that most of the paragraphs are uncited, this article leaves the impression that Mao and the communists deliberately set out to murder tens of millions of their own people, a claim which appears to be contradicted by the book itself. Gatoclass (talk) 14:05, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

• The footnote 3 applies to all the paragraphs in the "Key arguments of the book", not just the last one. I okayed this after a lot of changes had been made because the topic is so important, but upon reflection, you're right that it's still not ready. Unfortunate. I'll ping the nominator again. Wasted Time R (talk) 14:40, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

• I will probably want to do some editing of this article myself as IMO it needs substantial work. Although really, I think it's time we started disqualifying POV articles outright. I'm tired of trying to bring other people's substandard articles up to scratch, I've got my own articles I want to write. Gatoclass (talk) 15:11, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

• I don't think it's a "POV article" per se. It isn't the Great Chinese Famine article, it's an article about a book about the famine. The article just has to accurately reflect the book's contents and the reactions to the book. Now I don't really know if it does that, not having read the book and not having looked for a lot of reactions. It would be especially useful to include the reaction of people in China (the government, historians, dissidents, etc) to the book, or whether the book even has any visibility there. Wasted Time R (talk) 15:35, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

• I am currently working on the article. I will leave a note here when I'm done and then someone else can review it. Gatoclass (talk) 06:53, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

But I will add that I think it is also going to need a new hook. The statement made by the author of the book on his website that "2 to 3 million Chinese were buried alive ..." during the famine strikes me as sensationalist, probably made to help sales of the book. I say this because not one review of the book I have read mentions people being "buried alive", although they all mention the other killings. This suggests to me that evidence for this claim in the actual book is either flimsy or else there were only isolated cases of such crimes. I can't imagine that reviewers would fail to note such a horrific method if it had been a widespread practice. Gatoclass (talk) 07:08, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

NLRB v. Fansteel Metallurgical Corp., NLRB v. Columbian Enameling & Stamping Co., National Labor Relations Board v. Sands Manufacturing Co.

• ... that one historian has argued that NLRB v. Fansteel Metallurgical Corp., NLRB v. Columbian Enameling & Stamping Co., and NLRB v. Sands Manufacturing Co. (all 1939) are the three most significant Supreme Court rulings on the National Labor Relations Act since NLRB v. Jones & Laughlin Steel Corporation upheld the Act in 1937?

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 02:40, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

• Date OK (though 1st article from the 20th). Length OK (all 3), Hook cited inline (all 3). Neutral. No reason to suspect copyvio or other problems. Copious inline citations (guideline D2). Hook too long even under guideline C3 (viz. subtract names of additional 2 articles). Also, the first article has a red-link (don't know whether that's OK; I'm new here). --catslash (talk) 22:23, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
• ALT1: ... that James Gross considers NLRB v. Fansteel Metallurgical Corp., NLRB v. Columbian Enameling & Stamping Co., and NLRB v. Sands Manufacturing Co. the most significant Supreme Court rulings on the National Labor Relations Act since NLRB v. Jones & Laughlin Steel Corporation?

Ireland – South Africa relations

Jacob Zuma

• ... that South African President Jacob Zuma (pictured) has commented on the "special relationship" between his country and Ireland?

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Self nom at 03:31, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

• The picture would have to be in the article, to be used on the main page. I can't say it's a very interesting hook... Article created in March 2008, less than 500 chars, then redirected. Now approx 6k chars, even after large removal, therefore passes 5x, and date. Hook is sourced. --Worm 10:45, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• Article has a clarification-needed tag and a massive unsourced paragraph. - The Bushranger _{Return fire}^{Flank speed} 07:23, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Rainer Rene Graf Adelmann von Adelmannsfelden

• ... that German lawyer Rainer Rene Graf Adelmann von Adelmannsfelden formed the Federation of German mercenaries, operated an agency dealing with the adoption of unborn babies, formed his own church, dealt in organ donations and the trafficking of asylum seekers?

• ALT 1: ... that German lawyer Rainer Rene Graf Adelmann von Adelmannsfelden, founder of the Federation of German mercenaries, was the subject of a question in the German Parliament in regards to organ donor laws?

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 14:44, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Thomas Fairfax (Walton) and Thomas Fairfax (Gilling)

• ... that Thomas Fairfax was the first Fairfax to own Gilling Castle and gave it as an inheritance to his son Thomas, the last confirmed ancestor of both Prince William and Kate Middleton?

Thomas Fairfax (Walton) created by La comadreja _{formerly AFriedman} RESEARCH (talk). Thomas Fairfax (Gilling) created by User:Martinvl on November 20 and 5x expanded by La comadreja _{formerly AFriedman} RESEARCH (talk). Self nom at 6:17, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: These articles are relevant to the "In the News" item about the engagement of Prince William and Kate Middleton. Ideally, this DYK should be placed on the main page before the "In the News" item is taken off the main page. --La comadreja _{formerly AFriedman} RESEARCH (talk) 06:20, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
• They've both been tagged as few sources and requiring expansion. (Also both classed as stub.) Since DYKs are meant to give the impression of finished, I'm wary of promoting them. --Worm 15:18, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

National Docks Secondary

• ... that the National Docks Secondary freight rail line travels through a short tunnel that took nearly ten years to build and cost twice as much due to a frog war with the Pennsylvania Railroad?

Created by Djflem (talk). Self nom at 09:04, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

• Fixed spelling of (neary -> nearly) and added the second "to" to the hook. Schwede66 02:16, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

• I can't find the hook fact in the article, it mentions the tunnel but not the time taken or the cost. Regarding the cost - 'twice as much' as what, originally estimated? The article is fine otherwise, date and length are OK. Mikenorton (talk) 10:38, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Sentence in article w/ info now reads: When finally completed in 1897 the 450 ft (140 m) long tunnel under Pennsylvania's Waldo Avenue yards had cost $750,000, twice what had been projected.

The construction date start is in paragragh's first sentence. Hence, hook could read:

• ... that the National Docks Secondary freight rail line travels through a short 19th century tunnel that took eight years to build and cost nearly twice as much as the estimated $300,000-400,000 due to a frog war with the Pennsylvania Railroad?

or

• ... that the National Docks Secondary freight rail line travels through a short 19th century tunnel that cost nearly twice as much as the estimated $300,000-400,000 to built it because of a frog war with the Pennsylvania Railroad?

• OK, thanks for clarifying and the hook ref is now fine too, but I'm sorry that your two alternative hooks are well over 200 characters. Can I suggest

ALT3... that the National Docks Secondary freight rail line uses a short tunnel that took eight years to build at twice the originally estimated cost, because of a frog war with the Pennsylvania Railroad? Mikenorton (talk) 23:14, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Looks good to me (is the comma needed?) Thanks for your helpDjflem (talk) 23:30, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 22

Siradiou Diallo

• ... that Siradiou Diallo organized the Coalition of Guineans from Outside (EGR), a group made up of Guineans exiled by the regime of President Sékou Touré?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 05:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that the Guinean journalist Siradiou Diallo was suspected of being a double agent for President Sékou Touré? --Rosiestep (talk) 07:01, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Bill Naito

• ... that Bill Naito, who abruptly left Portland, Oregon at age 16 to avoid Japanese-American internment during World War II, later became one of that same city's most esteemed business and civic leaders?

Created by SJ Morg (talk). Self nom at 10:29, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: Hook length is under 200 characters, barely. It could be shortened by deleting the words "age" or "same". If reviewer feels the last phrase needs a wikilink, one option would be to make "same city's" into a second, piped link to Portland, Oregon (i.e., keeping "same city's" or "that city's" as the only visible text there). SJ Morg (talk) 10:39, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Note that an image of the subject is available (newly uploaded and taken by the nominator; see article's infobox), but I was hesitant to note it in the suggested hook, because if a reviewer counted "(pictured)" in the character tally the hook would definitely exceed 200, and it's my impression that some DYK nom reviewers count "(pictured)" and some do not. SJ Morg (talk) 10:56, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

List of special elections to the Philippine Congress

• ... that the Philippine Supreme Court (pictured) ruled that the special election for the Senate in 2001 was upheld even though the Commission on Elections did not call one?

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 20:13, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

• There doesn't appear to be sufficient citations, per [[3]], a rule of thumb at 1 citation per paragraph. --Worm 15:29, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• The "House of Representatives" section doesn't need one since it's a summary of what was said at the "scheduling" section, and the individual sections for the "Senate" section are not needed since they're templated. The "Thirteenth senator" section uses the reference at the end it'll be redundant to ibid them at every bullet point. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 15:35, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Medieval Mayhem, The Video Game Critic

• ... that the 2006 homebrew Medieval Mayhem (pictured) and the 1984 Starpath Supercharger version of Frogger are the only two Atari 2600 games to receive an "A+" rating from The Video Game Critic?

Created by 28bytes (talk), Theornamentalist (talk). Self nom at 16:32, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

• The Video Game Critic is currently tagged with {Notability}. --PFHLai (talk) 03:03, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

• Huh. Well, might as well go with a single nom, then. I've unbolded The Video Game Critic in the hook. 28bytes (talk) 03:35, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

• Never mind my last comment; Theornamentalist has expanded the article with additional sources and removed the tag. Both articles should be ready. 28bytes (talk) 15:46, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

• ...and now our notability-tagging friend has put The Video Game Critic up for AfD. I'll leave it up to the reviewer whether to wait for the AfD resolution or just go with a single nom for Medieval Mayhem with The Video Game Critic unbolded in the hook. 28bytes (talk) 16:34, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Yanar Dag

• ... that Yanar Dag (pictured), the "Fire Mountain," is an ancient and visually stunning fire that burns “eternally” on a hillside on the Absheron Peninsula in Azerbaijan?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 13:27, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Following Alt hook is also suggested. -- N.V.V. Char ^Talk . 13:27, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

• Alt Hook... that even on the surface of streams near Yanar Dag (pictured) in Azerbaijan, flames of fire could be ignited artificially with a match stick on fire, which are called Yanar Bulaq or “burning spring”?

Benjamin Harrison IV

• ... that the ancestral home of United States Presidents William Henry Harrison and Benjamin Harrison, built by Benjamin Harrison IV in 1726, is believed to be the oldest three-story brick mansion in Virginia?

Created by Location (talk). Self nom at 07:42, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 23

2009–10 Zimbabwean cricket season

• ... that Zimbabwe won their only home One Day International cricket series in 2009–10, beating Kenya 4–1?

Created by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 16:59, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

• Not keen on the hook, it reads to me that the Zimbabwe team has never won a home ODI. --Worm 15:45, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• Yeah, I can see that. How about:

• ALT1: ... that Zimbabwe only played one One Day International cricket series in 2009–10, beating Kenya 4–1?

Anika Moa discography

• ... that Anika Moa (pictured) has released four albums under multiple record labels?

5x expanded by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 23:28, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

First Battle of Yeonpyeong

• ... that the First Battle of Yeonpyeong was a deadly clash between the navies of North and South Korea in 1999 off Yeonpyeong island, which North Korea subsequently attacked in November 2010?

Rather timely in the light of today's news! It would be nice if we could get this on the main page quickly while the story is still in the news. Expanded by Prioryman (talk) 20:10, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

• Very relevant in light of recent events between North and South Korea. Nice stats, notable content with well done info box.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 04:33, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

• DYK rules require inline citations. Currently only 2 of the 8 paragraphs in the article have inline citations. 28bytes (talk) 20:25, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

• Almost the entire article is sourced from one reference, listed under First Battle of Yeonpyeong#References. What is the best way to resolve this? Prioryman (talk) 21:33, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

• I've asked for another opinion on this, so I'll wait until they chime in. 28bytes (talk) 21:58, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
• There is now a book cit on every paragraph. -- Esemono (talk) 07:17, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Civilian casualty ratio

• ... that the lowest civilian casualty ratio in the history of combating terrorism may have been achieved by Israel, in its airstrikes on militants in the Gaza Strip?

Created by Jalapenos do exist (talk). Self nom at 19:11, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

• Unique, notable, well-written with lots of good sources. Very relevant in the era of asymmetrical warfare --Jiujitsuguy (talk) 04:29, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

• Currently at AfD. On hold here pending resolution there. 28bytes (talk) 17:45, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Concerns have been raised regarding the use of the word "terrorism" and the POV slant of the article which reads like an ISraeli MFA communique. While the article will likely be kept to be improved, these concerns also apply to the hook being proposed. Any alts for us to consider? Tiamut^talk 10:21, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Guinean constitutional referendum, 1958

• ... that Guinea was the only French colony to reject the 1958 constititution, thereby opting for independence?

Created by Number 57 (talk). Self nom at 13:36, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

• Or perhaps "... that Guinea was the only French colony to reject the 1958 constititution in a referendum, thereby opting for independence?" Number 57 15:34, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Just William (2010 TV serial)

• ... that the Just William series of books, which serve as the basis of a 2010 television adaption, sold more than 12 million copies in the United Kingdom?

Created by 03md (talk). Self nom at 17:59, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 24

Nürnberger Platz (Berlin U-Bahn)

• ... that after the Nürnberger Platz Berlin U-Bahn station was replaced by Spichernstraße and demolished, the Augsburger Straße station had to be built to reduce the distance between stations?

Created by Yngvadottir (talk). Self nom at 20:32, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

• Comment I also expanded the other 2 station articles within the time frame, but they do not meet length/amount of expansion criteria. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:35, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Venues of the 1984 Summer Olympics

• ... that only two new permanent venues were constructed for the 1984 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles?

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 21:10, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Neon lighting

• ... that the first neon lighting was developed by French engineer Georges Claude and installed for public display at the Paris Motor Show in December 1910?

• Comment: The preferred DYK date is 3rd December. This year is the 100th anniversary. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 17:29, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Created by Easchiff (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 17:29, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

On the basis of the anniversary, I propose:

• (ALT1) ... that neon lighting, first developed by French engineer Georges Claude and publicly displayed at the Paris Motor Show, was installed one hundred years ago today?

Ideally, the queue used should allow it to be December 3 for most of the planet, so maybe the 12 noon in London slot. EdChem (talk) 14:47, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

The Nutcracker in 3D

• ... that 2010's The Nutcracker in 3D contained no ballet?

Created by 1Matt20 (talk). Nominated by Bobamnertiopsis (talk) at 07:37, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

• Nearly. Size and age are fine, but can you mention the lack of ballet other than in a review (such as in the 'Plot' section)? A slight rewording is also needed to make it more NPOV. Adabow (talk · contribs) 21:38, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Also, before it goes live, it should have its stub status removed.

Teuthidodrilus

• ... that the squidworm is a newly discovered genus of deep water worms with physical characteristics of both seabed-dwelling and free-swimming worms?

Created by Klangenfurt (talk). Nominated by DiverDave (talk) at 22:52, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

• Wonderful article about a great subject. Two issues: 1) The online citation to the 2007 collection by Woods Hole does not lead to the article cited. 2) The hook is slightly too long. Can we lose the "(Teuthidodrilus)"? Otherwise, article length is OK, timeliness of submission OK, online cites OK, and offline cite AFG. One a side note: The lead contradicts the text. The squidworm was collected in 2007 by Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, but the lead says discovered by Scripps Institution of Oceanography in November 2010. Perhaps the issue is one of collected vs. described? This needs fixing. - Tim1965 (talk) 00:52, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Peter Shivute, Chief Justice of Namibia, Supreme Court of Namibia

• ... that Peter Shivute, Chief Justice in the Supreme Court of Namibia, spends his office hours on a fault?
  • Peter Shivute 5x expanded by Pgallert (talk), beginning November 25. Self nom at 12:34, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Chief Justice of Namibia created by Pgallert (talk) on November 24. Self nom at 12:34, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Supreme Court of Namibia 5x expanded by Pgallert (talk), beginning November 24. Self nom at 12:34, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: The hook ref is the last one in the Supreme Court of Namibia#Court building section. --Pgallert (talk) 12:40, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Papyrus 6

• ... that Papyrus 6 (pictured), manuscript of the New Testament, contains text of the apocryphal First Epistle of Clement in Coptic (Akhmimic dialect)?

5x expanded by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 23:09, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

• The fact that is contains text of the First Epistle of Clement is not cited in the article, nor is the fact that is is in Coptic (Akhmimic dialect). - Tim1965 (talk) 01:01, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Sorry, I forget. It was mentioned only in the lead (and unreferenced). I added this fact in section Description. We have not to much literature in Akhmimic. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 01:15, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Jacob B. Warlow

• ... that Jacob B. Warlow, a 45 year old police officer, led police squads against rioters on the New York waterfront during the Draft Riot in 1863?

Created by 71.184.54.30 (talk). Nominated by Alpha Quadrant (talk) at 17:18, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that Jacob B. Warlow, a 45 year old police officer, was among those officers and patrolmen commended for their conduct and service on the New York waterfront during the New York Draft Riot in 1863?

• Fact in the hook (Warlow leading police squads against rioters) is not cited with an inline citation in the article, either in the lead or in the body of the text. - Tim1965 (talk) 01:08, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1: Some facts were verified with an inline citation in the article (offline hook), some were not. Commendation is verified, the fact that the riot was on the waterfront is not. Mentioning Warlow's age in the hook is problematic and unclear, because Warlow lived in the 19th century. At what point was he 45 years old? Hook would be stronger with this part removed, since it isn't necessary. Date and length verified. ALT1 hook is more than 200 characters and needs to be shortened. I think the hook is sufficient with just the commendation, and with the problematic aspects removed. However, it would be more interesting to a wider audience if the article had an inline-cited fact about which war the draft riots were in response to, and possibly why they occurred. --La comadreja _{formerly AFriedman} RESEARCH (talk) 05:15, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Well, I've added that information to the article. Here is ALT2:

• ALT2: ... that Jacob B. Warlow was commended for his service as a police captain during the New York Draft Riots, which protested the American Civil War?

Created by 71.184.54.30 (talk) and by La comadreja _{formerly AFriedman} RESEARCH (talk) 05:57, 2 December 2010 (UTC). Nominated by Alpha Quadrant (talk) at 17:18, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Article 12 of the Constitution of Singapore

• ... that in a 1998 case the Singapore Court of Appeal traced the origin of the concept of equality in Article 12 of the Constitution of Singapore to the 40th article of the Magna Carta of 1215?

Created by Soong Wen E (talk), Wangye123 (talk) and Smuconlaw (talk). Nominated by Smuconlaw (talk) at 16:56, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

• The article was moved from a sandbox on 24 November 2010. — SMUconlaw (talk) 16:58, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Hevisaurus

• ... that the characters of Hevisaurus, a Finnish heavy metal band for kids, were hatched from metal eggs buried 65 million years ago?

Created by Shirt58 (talk), JIP (talk). Self nom at 12:10, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

• The article has not been created or expanded 5x in the last 5 days, plus it has less than 1500 characters of prose. Please see the DYK rules. —Bruce1ee^talk 12:43, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

• "Heavy Metal" should not be capitalized. What means "Power Metal Children's music band"?--Cannibaloki 13:26, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Corrected capitalisation per MOS:MUSIC--Shirt58 (talk) 10:24, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Notified Shirt58 that article is too short right now. -SusanLesch (talk) 00:15, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the notification. The article also fails other DYK criteria, and I don't think it can be fixed to pass them. Räyh!--Shirt58 (talk) 11:39, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Shining Hearts

• ... that the role-playing game Shining Hearts has a battle system where the player's allies' feelings towards the player will change depending on who the player chooses to perform a team attack with?

Created by Bloodios (talk). Nominated by Ike-bana (talk) at 23:01, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Verified the hook, size and date. (Maybe try "with whom" instead of ending in "with".) -SusanLesch (talk) 00:25, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Anything less cumbersome? It took me a few minutes to understand the hook :-) Materialscientist (talk) 01:34, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1: that the role-playing game Shining Hearts features hearts, collectible and usable by the players, that represent the other players' feelings about their actions? --La comadreja _{formerly AFriedman} RESEARCH (talk) 11:46, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT2: ... that the role-playing game Shining Hearts features hearts, collectible and usable by the player, that represent the other characters' feelings about the player's actions?

The problem I see with ALT1 is that it may lead the reader into thinking that Shining Hearts is a multi-player game when it is a single-player game. --生け花 00:21, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• ALT3: ... that the other characters of the role-playing game Shining Hearts will feel differently about the player based on who the player chooses to perform a team attack with?
• ALT4: ... that the role-playing game Shining Hearts has a battle system where the other characters will feel differently about the player based on who the player chooses to perform a team attack with?

Here are some other options. Thanks for the feedback, everyone. --生け花00:21, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

An Analysis of the Laws of England

• ... that although "relatively little scholarly attention" has been paid to William Blackstone's An Analysis of the Laws of England, it was so successful at the time that it necessitated the printing of four editions in four years? Ironholds (talk) 01:51, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

At 226 chars, I think this hook is a bit too long... any alternative suggestions?--Worm 16:06, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• ... that although "relatively little scholarly attention" has been paid to William Blackstone's An Analysis of the Laws of England, its initial success necessitated the printing of four editions in four years? Ironholds (talk) 16:38, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 25

Rans S-11 Pursuit

• ... that the wings of the Rans S-11 Pursuit provide only 20% of the aircraft's lift?

Created by Ahunt (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 20:22, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• Length and date verified, offline hook ref accepted in good faith. —Bruce1ee^talk 06:10, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Moss Airport, Rygge

• ... that Moss Airport, Rygge is the first airport in Europe to replace all the runway and taxiway lights with light emitting diodes?

5x expanded by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 12:19, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Frank G. Higgins, William M. Morrow, Elmer Beach, Frederic L. Smith, Royal T. Farrand, J. De Forest Richards, Edmond H. Barmore, Thomas Jesse Drumheller and Thomas H. McNeil

• ... that the quarterbacks for the Michigan Wolverines football teams of the 19th Century included a Lieutenant Governor of Montana (pictured), a Brigadier General decorated for valor in World War I, the brother of a famous novelist, one of the founders of General Motors, the physician at a Kimberly-Clark mill, the son of the Governor of Wyoming, a steamboat builder, a Grand Chancellor of the Knights of Pythias and a sheep rancher from Walla Walla?

Created/expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:37, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Edward Fanshawe (British Army officer), Hew Dalrymple Fanshawe

• ... that after Lieutenant-General Hew Fanshawe was sacked from the command of the British V Corps in 1916, he was replaced by his elder brother Edward - who was himself sacked in 1918?

• Comment: One created 25th, one created 28th. A third brother, Robert Fanshawe, is listed seperately for the 21st - if you want to hook all three together, feel free.

Created by Shimgray (talk). Self nom at 14:21, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Maroutsaia School

• ... that Eugenios Voulgaris, scholar and first director of the Maroutsaia School in Ioannina, Greece, insisted that the Greek intellectual revival should remain theologically and socially conservative?

Created by Alexikoua (talk). Self nom at 22:40, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Alexander Sergeyevich Stroganov

• ... that after suggestion of Alexander Sergeyevich Stroganov (pictured) Alexander I, tsar of Russia, established Depository of Manuscripts in National Library of Russia (1805)?

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 15:34, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks for creating this article, but would it be possible to make the prose flow a little bit. At the moment it reads too abrupt, like a CV. Materialscientist (talk) 00:54, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Durban III

• ... that Canada has vowed to boycott the United Nations Durban III conference over concerns that it will promote racism and antisemitism?

Created by Jalapenos do exist (talk). Self nom at 23:58, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

• Leave out "over concerns that it will promote racism and antisemitism?" Gives away too much. Chesdovi (talk) 00:46, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

I see your point. A hook should pique curiosity.

ALT1: ... that Canada has vowed to boycott the United Nations Durban III conference?

ALT2: ... that Canada has vowed to boycott the United Nations Durban III conference, calling it a "charade" and a "hatefest"?

Jalapenos do exist (talk) 17:33, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Arthur Fell

• ... that in 1906 the British MP Arthur Fell was told by a judge that he had escaped "by the skin of his teeth" from having his election declared void?

• ALT1:... that before the 1906 general election, the British politician Arthur Fell held a campaign meeting at which 24 bottles of whisky were given to voters?
• ALT2:... that in 1906 Justice Grantham's bias in dismissing an election petition against Arthur Fell led to a motion of censure in the House of Commons?
• ALT3:... that from 1914 to 1922 the British Member of Parliament Arthur Fell led an all-party committee which campaigned for a Channel Tunnel

Created by BrownHairedGirl (talk). Self nom at 23:07, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

• Several possible hooks in this long article. I prefer ALT3 (the Channel Tunnel) but think the others have mileage too. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:09, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Coyoacán

• ... that despite being enveloped by the urban sprawl of Mexico City, the borough of Coyoacán still has areas with the narrow winding roads of rural villages?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 17:21, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

ECAC women's ice hockey

• ... that Jennifer Botterill (pictured) was the only player in ECAC women's ice hockey history to win the Patty Kazmaier Award twice?

Source Created by Maple_Leaf (talk) 13:21, 25 November 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 13:21, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

• Great, but could you please nominate articles after they are cleaned up, so that the review could start. Thanks. Materialscientist (talk) 00:48, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Una Canción Me Trajo Hasta Aquí

• ... that the song "Una Canción Me Trajo Hasta Aquí" performed by Jorge Drexler received two nominations for the 11th Latin Grammy Awards even though it was not promoted to radio in the United States?

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 10:16, 25 November 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 10:16, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

List of St. Louis Cardinals no-hitters

• ... that the first no-hitter in the history of the St. Louis Cardinals baseball franchise was pitched on October 4, 1891 by Ted Breitenstein (pictured) in his first major league start?

• Comment: Please do not remove the word "franchise". The team had a different name back in 1891. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 08:48, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Created by BlueEarth (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 08:48, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Smouldering Fires (film)

• ... that Clarence Brown's 1925 silent film Smouldering Fires starring Pauline Frederick is considered a cautionary tale?

5x expanded by MichaelQSchmidt (talk), Koplimek (talk). Self nom at 08:37, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 26

Furuset Line, Grorud Line

• ... that the Furuset and Grorud Lines of the Oslo Metro serve each their side of the Grorud Valley?

5x expanded by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 18:07, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Walid Husayin

• ... that the Palestinian Authority has detained Palestinian blogger Walid Husayin for allegedly blaspheming against Islam on Facebook and in his personal blog?

Created by Plot Spoiler (talk). Self nom at 02:40, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Rans S-12 Airaile

• ... that although the Rans S-12XL Airaile (pictured) was scheduled to go out of production in 2006, customer demand has kept the kitplane in production?

Created by Ahunt (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 20:33, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Photothèque (Luxembourg)

• ... that the Photothèque (pictured) in Luxembourg houses photographs of the city taken as early as 1855?

Created by Ipigott (talk). Nominated by Elekhh (talk) at 20:23, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• The fact in the hook is not cited in the article. - Tim1965 (talk) 17:36, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• Added extra references for clarity. Also alternative hook provided below: --Elekhh (talk) 20:36, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Alt: ... that the Photothèque (pictured) in Luxembourg houses some two million photographs taken between 1855 and the present day?

Bill Stein

• ... that Bill Stein hit a home run in his Major League Baseball debut on September 6, 1972?

5x expanded by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 00:55, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

• Looks good. But can I win his money? ;) - The Bushranger _{Return fire}^{Flank speed} 20:05, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Roman Romkowski

• ... that deputy minister Roman Romkowski, along with Director-general Anatol Fejgin and Col. Józef Różański from his Ministry of Public Security of Poland, was sentenced to 15 years' imprisonment in 1957?

5x expanded by Stawiski (talk). Self nom at 17:46, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

• I made minor changes to the proposed hook. — Kpalion^(talk) 18:29, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

• As the hook currently reads, it makes it sound like all three men received 15-year sentences. But Fejgin only received a 12-year sentence. Fejgin could be dropped from the hook, so it only mentions Romkowski and Różański. Or it could be reworded to say "to at least 12 years in prison". (I made some slight grammatical and punctuation changes to the existing hook.) - Tim1965 (talk) 18:22, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

William Henry Foster (Lancaster)

• ... that when the Queensbury mill-owner William Henry Foster died in 1908, a special train brought the Lord Mayor of Bradford to his funeral near Hornby Castle?

Created by BrownHairedGirl (talk). Self nom at 01:17, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

• Hook and article length check out, timeliness of submission is OK. Offline cites AFG. Hook approved. - Tim1965 (talk) 18:29, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Trilokinath Temple at Tunde

• ... that the Trilokinath Temple at Tunde in Lahul, Himachal Pradesh, India, is sacred to both Tibetan Buddhists and Hindus and is dedicated to both Shiva and Avalokiteśvara?

Created by John Hill (talk). Self nom at 02:58, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Lloyd K. Garrison

• ... that American lawyer Lloyd K. Garrison was chairman of the "first" National Labor Relations Board, the National War Labor Board, and the New York City Board of Education?

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 01:12, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Wuthering Heights (Herrmann)

• ✗... that Bernard Herrmann's only opera Wuthering Heights was composed 1943-1951, recorded by the composer in 1966, but has yet to receive a staged complete performance (its sole staging, in 1982, was cut by some 40 minutes and a happier ending was substituted)?

Created by JackofOz (talk). Self nom at 00:20, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

• The original hook, at 257 characters is over the limit of 200. Suggesting ALT1, at 199. (Note: I've only looked at the hook, not the article.) MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 10:03, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
• ALT1:... that Bernard Herrmann recorded his only opera, Wuthering Heights, in 1966 but it has not been completely staged, as its sole staging, in 1982, was cut by 40 minutes with a happier ending substituted?

I'm happy with that revised hook. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 22:46, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Booby Island Light

• ... that although a recommendation to establish a lighthouse on Booby Island was made as early as 1873, Booby Island Light was only constructed in 1890, the last of the major lighthouses to be constructed along the Queensland coast?

ALT1:... that although a recommendation to establish Booby Island Light was made in 1873, it was only constructed in 1890, the last major lighthouse to be constructed along the Queensland coast?

Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 14:25, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

• I just realized my original hook was 250 chars long, so I wrote ALT1 of 185 chars. I still think the original, while less concise, is clearer, but rules are rules. --Muhandes (talk) 17:00, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Matthew Passion/NBA BWV table

• ... that there are two different numbering schemes for Bach's masterpiece the St. Matthew Passion and neither is authentic?

Created by Woz2 (talk). Self nom at 00:59, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

• This article is not close to being eligible. For instance, there are only 263 characters of prose, and it must have a minimum of 1,500. Please review the DYK rules. - PM800 (talk) 01:27, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! It's a pity text in tables doesn't count, but there you go. I guess I still have a few days to see if there's anything useful to add to prose section e.g. why did NBA think it necessary to invent a new numbering scheme? The BWV scheme seemed OK to me. What didn't they like about it? Woz2 (talk) 14:27, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on November 27

Fodéba Keïta

• ... that Guinean Fodéba Keïta was the founder of the first professional African theatrical troupe, Theatre Africain?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 05:11, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length and sources are all good. I took "Theatre Africain" out of italics - correct me if I'm wrong. 97198 (talk) 06:26, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Olivia Shakespear

• ... that Olivia Shakespear, mother-in-law to Ezra Pound, was indirectly responsible for supporting struggling modernist writers such as T.S. Eliot and James Joyce?

Created by Truthkeeper88 (talk). Self nom at 23:12, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Base Cation Saturation Ratio - William Albrecht

• ... that the Base Cation Saturation Ratio was defined as a measure of soil fertility by William Albrecht of the University of Missouri?

created by Chienlit (talk). Self nom at 11:13, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Uspenski Gospels

• ... that Uspenski Gospels is the oldest dated Greek manuscript of the New Testament?

5x expanded by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 00:24, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Harihar Narayan Prabhakar

• ... that Indian politician Harihar Narayan Prabhakar began his political career in the Communist Party of India, but later represented three different parties in the legislative assembly of Bihar?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 21:57, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

• Changing parties by politicians is very common phenomena in India, Nothing new about it.-- . Shlok _{talk .} 09:09, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• Perhaps this hook would be more interesting, ALT1: "that Indian politician Harihar Narayan Prabhakar began his political career in the Communist Party of India, but later represented the Bharatiya Janata Party in the legislative assembly of Bihar?" Switching from CPI to BJP is certainly not very common. --Soman (talk) 14:00, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Lake Burton, Antarctica

• ... that the Lake Burton, Antarctica formerly an arm of the sea which was a dominant feature of the western side of the Vestfold Hills area in what is known as the Mule Peninsula?

Created by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 09:07, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Looks good. However, the hook is grammatically incoherent and kind of wordy. How about

ALT1: ... that fish have been sighted in Lake Burton, Antarctica?

Also, a picture for the article would be great, if that can be managed. Jalapenos do exist (talk) 11:56, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Could not find any img of the lake in flickr.-- N.V.V. Char ^Talk . 04:03, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

List of Pittsburgh Pirates no-hitters

• ... that the list of no-hitters by Pittsburgh Pirates pitchers includes two victories on the same date in different seasons against different baseball clubs from the same city?

Created by BlueEarth (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 16:59, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

• I think this hook is too confusing. You could probably do something with Dock Ellis' LSD claim, though. - PM800 (talk) 09:14, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

List of Baltimore Orioles no-hitters

• ... that the list of no-hitters by Baltimore Orioles pitchers includes a loss in the 1967 season, with runs given up in the ninth inning on walks, a wild pitch and an error?

• ALT... that the list of no-hitters by Baltimore Orioles pitchers includes two victories on consecutive days against the 1917 Chicago White Sox club that went on to win the World Series that year?

Created by BlueEarth (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 08:40, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Car Town

• ... that Honda has been using the online Facebook game Car Town to promote its CR-Z hybrid (pictured)?

Created by Coop32 (talk). Nominated by MuZemike (talk) at 02:44, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

ALT 1 (if the above hook sounds a bit too promotional): ... that online Facebook game Car Town features pace cars used in the 2010 Indianapolis 500 and the 2010 Brickyard 400?

Drowning Ghost

• ... that Drowning Ghost is a Swedish slasher film which was accused of being too similar to the Halloween and the Friday the 13th films?

BabbaQ (talk) 22:50, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

• Not sufficiently expanded. Went from 1816 to 5362 characters, meaning another 3718 would be required for 5x expansion. Furthermore, the reference provided for the hook fact (in German, which I don't read) appears to make no mention whatsoever of the fact. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 06:25, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Wachet! betet! betet! wachet! BWV 70

• ... that Bach could not perform his cantata Wachet! betet! betet! wachet!, written in Weimar for Advent, in Leipzig in Advent?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 22:43, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

ZALA Aero

• ... that unmanned aerial vehicles built by ZALA Aero are used by Gazprom to monitor pipelines and retransmit video communications?

Created by Offliner (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 20:33, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

My Brother, Borat

• ... that the Erkin Rakishev parody film My Brother, Borat is intended by the director to counter the negative perceptions of Kazakhstan generated by the 2006 film Borat?

5x expanded by MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 07:47, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

• Yes, currently at AFD, but a keep is expected. Was speedy kept. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 07:47, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Moni Guha

• ... that Indian communist Moni Guha was amongst the first to criticize the 1956 line of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union as 'revisionist'?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 00:48, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Pisces IV

• ... that Pisces IV (pictured) has a specialized camera specifically for observing deep-sea organisms in a low-light setting?

Created by Resident Mario (talk). Self nom at 05:23, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

• I linked deep-sea. Moonraker2 (talk) 10:37, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

May I suggest tweaking the hook? Right now it's dull and boring. Well of course it has a camera, and of course it's quite dark out there. The article mentions that "The low-power camera is used to record the activities of organisms that otherwise respond poorly to bright light" - they key is that it's specifically for the critters that will attack and eat intruders who indiscriminately flash their cameras :) East of Borschov 23:19, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm looking in a bit into the sub's operational history, which should be more interesting. ResMar 21:52, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Neil Page

• ... that in February 1966, Neil Page became the first modern Australian baseball player to sign a professional contract with a Major League Baseball organisation, the Cincinnati Reds?

Created by User:Spy007au (talk). Self nom at 05:54, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

• Hook length, article length and timeliness of submission check out. Online cite checks out; offline cite AFG. Hook approved. - Tim1965 (talk) 18:46, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• Is "US" necessary? At the time, Major League Baseball was exclusively in the U.S. So, to me, it seems redundant. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 18:49, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• Good point, I have removed it. Spy007au (talk) 21:50, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• Well, Joe Quinn was the first Australian player. His major league career ended in 1901, which counts as being in the "modern" era. - PM800 (talk) 23:18, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• The word "modern" is a direct quote from the book by Joe Clark, A History of Australian Baseball: Time and Game (page 69). If the consensus thinks I should alter the hook, happy to do so. Spy007au (talk) 08:57, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 28

Cyrus Pitt Grosvenor

• ... that Cyrus Pitt Grosvenor, a Baptist abolitionist from Massachusetts, calculated π as 3.142135?

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 18:58, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• No citation for date of death or burial site (uncited paragraph), and also the end of the paragraph above that (about [not] squaring the circle in 1882) should really be cited as well. - The Bushranger _{Return fire}^{Flank speed} 20:39, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the review - I've addressed those issues Victuallers (talk) 21:29, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• And it's good to go. Nice work. - The Bushranger _{Return fire}^{Flank speed} 21:38, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

It is unclear what the hook aims at. His number is wrong, and much better accuracy was achieved more than 1000 years go by many people, but not everyone would understand that. Thus what is the moral of it? He was not a matematician, thus could make a mistake. Year is missing in the hook. Materialscientist (talk) 01:51, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

It struck me as quirky that a Baptist minister would be spending his spare time attempting to calculate the value of pi (rightly or wrongly). If that hook's a no-go, the fact that he tried to keep lamps from exploding might make for an interesting alternative. 28bytes (talk) 03:01, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

MS, does this work better? It seems "quirky" to me as well. - The Bushranger _{Return fire}^{Flank speed} 04:05, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that Cyrus Pitt Grosvenor, a Baptist abolitionist from Massachusetts, miscalculated π as 3.142135 in 1868?

Suggestion (very much unshaped)

• ALT2 ... that Cyrus Pitt Grosvenor, a Baptist abolitionist from Massachusetts, received a patent on prevention of gas lamp explosions? Materialscientist (talk) 04:19, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

This is getting very silly. He was not trying to get a perfect value for pi ... he was trying to square the circle. As a result (because it is now known to be impoosible) his calculated result for pi was not accurate - they couldnt be! ... its an irrational number - there is no true value!. The hook is intended to appeal to the numerate .... as it has. People still today try to get more accurate figures for Pi by this method. There are books about it. It may be interesting that there were more accurate numbers for Pi 1000 years ago (but wrong!).... but that is for another interesting hook and another article. Its your choice guys, but I think we are objecting just because its hooky and its drawing you lot in. There is nothing misleading or inaccurate about the hook.... and if he "miscalculated" then we will need to say that Newton miscalculated gravity and every sum you have ever done using circles was a miscalculation. Victuallers (talk) 08:30, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

My point was that he brought nothing either to the process of calculating pi or to the value of pi, that this part could be omitted, and the hook instead focused to either that a Baptist was deeply interested in math or that he's got an engineering patent. Materialscientist (talk) 08:46, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

And my point is exactly opposite. Squaring the circle is a problem that had defeated mathematicians for thousands of years. The best attempts that were reported in Maths journals were by this guy and Lewis Carroll (aka The Alice Guy - who was a prof. maths person). I think you have imagined him as a vicar playing at maths and making mistakes cos he was an amateur. Not true. We has working under the classic Euclidean restrictions of only using compasses and ruler - as defined by the problem of squaring the circle. The result obtained to that date was by Cyrus Pitt Grovesnor and it is still noted today as impressive (see ref). They didn't say "Aaaah bless" when he got that value but "Wow!". A much less hooky and more wordy hook is offered below. Victuallers (talk) 09:31, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

(alt3)... that the success of Cyrus Pitt Grosvenor, a Baptist abolitionist from Massachusetts, in Squaring the circle can be appreciated by the value of 3.142135 which he obtained for π?

(ec)No, I can't see that reference. I am fine to AGF that he made significant contribution to the problem of squaring the circle, but look, even for me it is hard to relate pi and his obtained value with that significance (if anyone sees it right away - go ahead and take any hook, I won't quarrel). Why not say it directly, e.g. as

• ALT4: ... that Cyrus Pitt Grosvenor, a Baptist abolitionist from Massachusetts, made a significant contribution to the problem of squaring the circle? Materialscientist (talk) 09:49, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

I think the difference between the hook is less than .000543 which was the error Grosvnor got. Basically I think we have just gone around the houses. I guess someone is going to have to reapprove all these hooks and decide. I was happy with the Bushranger's opinion. Victuallers (talk) 11:42, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Shashti (goddess)

• ... that initially described as devouring children on the sixth day after birth, today the Hindu goddess Shashti is worshipped on this day as the protector of children?

• Comment: split from Shashti and 5x expansion of original text in Shashti. Still in construction. It will take another 2-3 days to complete the lead rewrite and add some more sections for a good coverage. Please do not put the article on main page till the underconstruction tag is not removed.

Created by Redtigerxyz (talk). Self nom at 17:24, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Edmund Royds

• ... that the former country house of British politician Sir Edmund Royds was the subject of a Channel 4 television programme in 2009?

Created by BrownHairedGirl (talk). Self nom at 14:26, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

• (ALT1) ... that the British Conservative MP Sir Edmund Royds was defeated at the 1922 general election when the National Farmers Union supported his Liberal opponent?

Röhss

• ... that the legacy of the mercantile Röhss family in Gothenburg includes a museum for design and three professorial chairs at Gothenburg University?

Created by Hegvald (talk). Self-nomination at 01:20, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Daniel D. Badger

• ... that Daniel D. Badger, with James Bogardus, was one of the major forces in creating cast-iron architecture in the United States?

Created by Wetman (talk). Self nom at 17:31, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Iron ore mining in Western Australia

• ... that, in 2008-09, 64 percent of the 316 million tonnes of iron ore produced in Western Australia was exported to China?

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 13:08, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Cullen Wines

• ... that in 2006, Cullen Wines was the first winery in Australia to be certified as carbon neutral?

Created by Camw (talk). Self nom at 07:04, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

• Seems too promotional to me, also I dont think carbon neutral makes this sufficintly notable.Thelmadatter (talk) 22:53, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• When you say notable are you talking about the subject? There is plenty of significant coverage in reliable sources so it isn't relying on the carbon neutral fact for its notability. I don't really see the hook as being overly commercially promotional, but I'll see if I can find something else as an ALT hook. Camw (talk) 01:35, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Richard Herbert, 2nd Baron Herbert of Chirbury

• ... that Richard Herbert raised a foot regiment and a troop of horse for the king during the English Civil War?

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 07:01, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Exercise Swarmer

• ... that Exercise Swarmer was described as "the biggest step forwards since World War II"?

Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 06:34, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Geriatric trauma

• ... that the three prevailing causes of geriatric trauma in the elderly are falls, traffic collisions and burns?

Created by Peter.C (talk), DiverDave (talk). Self nom at 00:24, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• (ALT1): ... that although geriatric trauma is less common than other forms of traumatic injury it has the highest mortality rate?

Articles created/expanded on November 29

William Wilson Talcott

• ... that ice cream manufacturer William Wilson Talcott (pictured) killed himself by jumping from an excursion steamer into Lake Michigan with rocks in his pockets after he was unable to extricate his wife from a "love cult" in 1922?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 07:49, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Russian ironclad Kniaz Pozharsky

• ... that the Russian ironclad Kniaz Pozharsky was the first Russian armored ship to leave European waters when she cruised the Pacific Ocean in 1873–75?

Created by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Self nom at 03:04, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Female sperm storage

• ... that spiked genitalia, such as that of the bean weevil (pictured) may be an adaptation to remove sperm stored by females from previous mates?

5x expanded by User:Margaretsarmy (talk), User:Shanana3475 (talk), User:Piltro (talk), User:ClashofAges (talk), User:Ethandegner (talk), User:Bjholm (talk). Nominated by Smartse (talk) at 15:06, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Ashbourne Hall

• ... that in 1846, Ashbourne Hall and its Derbyshire estate, was withdrawn from a sale and sold later in 46 lots by a local solicitor?

• Comment: new author

Created by Rushton2010 (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 11:15, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Joseph Whittaker (botanist)

• ... that Joseph Whittaker, who has 2,000 pressed plants in Derby Museum, sold 300 South Australian plants he collected in 1839-40 to Kew Gardens?

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 23:09, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• tweaked Victuallers (talk) 08:47, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• I can't access the reference for the 2000 plants - it goes to here which is certainly not right. I'm not quite sure that the references is an RS either, but I'll wait to see it before deciding. I'm also unsure about the reliability of reference 3 which is to a website of a parish council - it doesn't make it clear anywhere where the information has come from and they can't be considered to be well known for fact checking. SmartSE (talk) 14:26, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Venues of the 1988 Winter Olympics

• ... that the Olympic Saddledome venue used for the 1988 Winter Olympics was under construction in 1981 when Calgary was awarded the Games?

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 16:17, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Opening of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway

• ... that the opening of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway (pictured) saw two railway collisions, one fatality and a riot?

• ALT1:... that at the opening of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway Prime Minister the Duke of Wellington (pictured) was pelted with vegetables by an angry mob?
• ALT2:... that at the opening of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway William Huskisson (pictured), Member of Parliament for Liverpool, was killed, and the trains were attacked by an angry mob in Manchester?
• Comment: Obviously, which image is used depends on which hook is used. Huskisson's portrait probably works best at the small main-page image size.

Created by Iridescent (talk). Self nom at 11:47, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• • ALT3:... that William Huskisson M.P. (pictured), was killed at the opening of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway by Stephenson's Rocket?

Suggest .. hooky? Victuallers (talk) 23:03, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

A bit reluctant, just because that's the one fact about the opening which is widely known. (The Manchester riots are generally blotted out of history, but every British schoolchild learns about Huskisson's death in primary school.) If ALT3 is used (or any variation thereof) it should be "Stephenson's Rocket"—"Stephenson's" isn't part of the name (we use it to disambiguate from other Rockets). – iridescent 23:09, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

I like the alt. Even if it's slightly less appealing to British readers, that will definitely grab the attention of everyone else in the world and probably quite a few UK users too. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 15:15, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

William Lai

• ... that Tainan mayor-elect William Lai was named Taiwan's "Best Legislator" for four consecutive years?

Created by Taiwantaffy (talk). Self nom at 11:24, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Rudi Spring

• ... that composer Rudi Spring accompanied Salome Kammer in songs and chansons at the Rheingau Musik Festival?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 08:52, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Tell Fray, Dibsi Faraj

• ... that the archaeological sites of Tell Fray and Dibsi Faraj in Syria were flooded by the rising waters of Lake Assad?

Created by Zoeperkoe (talk). Self nom at 02:11, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Walter Windsor

• ... that the death in June 1945 of the Labour Party candidate Walter Windsor caused Hull East to be the last constituency to declare a result in the 1945 general election in the United Kingdom?

• ALT1:that while King George V performed the State Opening of Parliament in January 1924, the Labour Party MP Walter Windsor instead attended a march of the National Unemployed Workers' Movement?

Created by BrownHairedGirl (talk). Self nom at 01:43, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Jake Gaudaur Veterans' Trophy, Mike McCullough (Canadian football)

• ... that Mike McCullough of the Saskatchewan Roughriders was named the inaugural winner of the Jake Gaudaur Veterans' Trophy at the 98th Grey Cup?

Created by Canada Hky (talk). Self nom at 00:22, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Black history and ice hockey

• ... that with regards to Black history and ice hockey, Grant Fuhr was the first black player inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame?

(ref: Jim Kelley. "First black inductee pleased to be role model". ESPN.com. November 3, 2003. Retrieved on September 10, 2008.) Created by Maple_Leaf (talk). Self nom at 13:16, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• Original hook seems a bit awkward. Suggesting ALT1. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 10:48, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
• ALT1:... that Grant Fuhr was the first black player inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame?

• Length, date, and hook source check out. I like ALT1. However, bare URLs for references need to be fixed, and every paragraph must have a citation. - PM800 (talk) 17:30, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

History of viruses

• ... that tulips with stripes are probably infected by a virus and that Neanderthals might have been made extinct by herpesvirus?

Created by GrahamColm (talk). Self nom at 20:55, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

• The article title needs to be linked in the hook somewhere. Mikenorton (talk) 23:26, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

• Linked. Graham Colm (talk) 23:41, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

This is a great article. I really enjoyed reading it. I verified hook references, and the article is well cited. I am concerned though that this does not meet the required 5x expansion for articles that draw material from existing articles. The entirety of the history section in the virus article has something like 5000 characters of prose, and the history of viruses article has about 15,000 characters. Not all of the section in the virus article was copied though, and I am not sure what the policy is in that case. Could more seasoned DYK checkers can chime in? James McBride (talk) 02:37, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Arthur Priestley

• ... that the British cricketer and politician Sir Arthur Priestley went pig-sticking in Patiala?

5x expanded by BrownHairedGirl (talk), Sarastro1 (talk). Self nom at 20:46, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Protactinium

• ... that the UK Atomic Energy Authority isolated 125 grams of protactinium in 1961, which was for many years the only significant source of the element?

• Comment: ALT1 ... that Lise Meitner (pictured), a co-discoverer of protactinium, became Germany's first female full professor in physics? ALT1 needs grammar correction, I guess. See these refs [4] [5] for main hook (proposed by Physchim62, many thanks to him) and this for ALT1. Materialscientist (talk) 10:26, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 10:26, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

• I've tweaked ALT1 for you. SmartSE (talk) 14:43, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

No. 76 Wing RAAF

• ... that in addition to conducting minelaying operations in the South West Pacific, No. 76 Wing RAAF (PBY Catalina pictured) dropped over a million propaganda leaflets before the end of World War II?

Created by Ian Rose (talk). Self nom at 07:53, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

• Looks good - The Bushranger _{Return fire}^{Flank speed} 16:46, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Seagram's Distillery

• ... that when Seagram's Distillery in Louisville, Kentucky opened in 1937, Seagram's claimed it was the largest distillery in the world?

• ALT1:... that the opening of Seagram's Distillery in Louisville, Kentucky in 1937 drew a crowd of 71,000 people during the week of the Kentucky Derby?

Created by Shoy (talk). Self nom at 14:44, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Yahweh (song)

• ... that "Yahweh" was performed live by U2 during the Vertigo Tour?

5x expanded by Burningview (talk). Self nom at 20:00, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 30

Ole Carlson House

• ... that the Ole Carlson House is a good example of Minnesota's rural Norwegian heritage?

Created by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 07:30, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Acochlidiacea, Euopisthobranchia, Panpulmonata

• ... that research of small acochlidian (example pictured) group (less than 30 species) resulted in redefinition of Heterobranchia, the largest clade of gastropods, that has led to creation new clades Euopisthobranchia and Panpulmonata in 2010?

5x expanded by Snek01 (talk). Self nom at 01:36, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Frida Kahlo Museum (La Casa Azul)

• ... that Diego Rivera and Frida Kahlo housed Leon Trotsky and his wife in "The Blue House" (pictured) after the couple obtained political asylum?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 13:49, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• I created it as a new article before finding and merging a stub that was previously createdThelmadatter (talk) 13:50, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• Added a picture. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:14, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Cancer Cells

• ... that research has shown that the failure to recognize cancer cells is caused by the lack of particular co-stimulated molecules that aid in the way antigens react with lymphocytes(pictured)?

Created/expanded by Venustas 12 (talk). Self nom at 20:13, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• Can you wikilink the hook and bold the article the DYK is about and add an alt-text to the image? -- Zoeperkoe (talk) 20:40, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, this is not even close to a 5x expansion within the last 5 days. -- Zoeperkoe (talk) 23:18, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cancer_Cells&diff=prev&oldid=399812662

This article is only one day old (before that it was a workshop.) Venustas 12 (talk) 23:35, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

And it is still a workshop, and it is all your editing from the start. We require 5x expansion within 5-7 days, which is not seen here, but it can still be done, so good luck. Materialscientist (talk) 23:54, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

I've quickly cleaned up formatting, but this should not mislead the reviewer - this article does need to be checked carefully, preferably by someone who knows this subject a bit. Materialscientist (talk) 00:27, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• I agree on this. I did some further clean-up, but this should be checked by someone who knows something about it. Also, I think that this article should be at Cancer cell, not Cancer cells, with the current contents of Cancer Cell moved to Cancer Cell (journal) or something like that. -- Zoeperkoe (talk) 00:36, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Jens Josef

• ... that three composers, flutist Jens Josef, cellist Graham Waterhouse and pianist Rudi Spring, each set a Christmas carol for their trio concert at the Gasteig?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 23:05, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Article 9 of the Constitution of Singapore

• ... that under Article 9 of the Singapore Constitution no one may be deprived of life or personal liberty save in accordance with law, which a 1980 case says includes fundamental rules of natural justice?

Created by Emmanuel Benedict Lee (talk), Josephine chee (talk), Shalini Jayaraj (talk), Viknesh2010 (talk), Yeenseen (talk) and Smuconlaw (talk). Nominated by Smuconlaw (talk) at 18:15, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• This article was moved from a sandbox on 30 November 2010. — SMUconlaw (talk) 18:20, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

A7 (Croatia)

• ... that 34.4-kilometre (21.4 mi) A7 motorway (pictured) in Croatia was built over a 33-year period?

5x expanded by Tomobe03 (talk). Self nom at 16:53, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Queen Vic Fire Week

• ... that in preparation for moving to HD broadcasting, the British soap opera EastEnders lit its set on fire?

Created by AnemoneProjectors (talk). Self nom at 15:16, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• burnt its own set? "lit its set o n fire" is hard to understand imo Victuallers (talk) 14:45, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Daniel O'Brien (comedian)

• ... that Daniel O'Brien senior editor for Cracked.com was confronted by the FBI and United States Secret Service after writing for his column an article titled "How to Kidnap the President's Daughter."?

5x expanded by Esemono (talk). Self nom at 14:58, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

1961 F-84 Thunderstreak incident

• ... that, only one month after the Berlin Wall was built, two West German aircraft accidently violated East German airspace, flying to Berlin Tegel Airport on 14 September 1961?

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 14:32, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• Both article and hook needed a good copyediting, which I have done. AGF on German language sources. - The Bushranger _{Return fire}^{Flank speed} 06:45, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Lynmouth Lifeboat Station

• ... that in 1899 the Lynmouth Lifeboat was pulled over a 1,423-foot (434 m) hill by men and horses so that it could launch to the aid of a ship 15 miles (24 km) from Lynmouth?

Created by Geof Sheppard (talk). Self nom at 14:10, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• Very cool article. Nice work. - The Bushranger _{Return fire}^{Flank speed} 05:59, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant sarcophagus

• ... that Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant sarcophagus locked 200 tons of radioactive lava, 30 tons of highly contaminated dust and 16 tons of uranium and plutonium?

Created by Twilight Chill (talk). Self nom at 12:08, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Walter T. Bailey

• ... that Walter T. Bailey was the first African-American to graduate from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign with a bachelor of science in architectural engineering?

Created by IvoShandor (talk). Self nom at 07:47, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• An interesting read. I'd suggest a catchier hook, though. A couple suggestions:

• alt 1 ... that Walter T. Bailey was the first licensed African-American architect in Illinois?
• alt 2 ... that Walter T. Bailey, the first licensed African-American architect in Illinois, designed the National Knights of Pythias Temple in Chicago's Black Metropolis-Bronzeville District? Cbl62 (talk) 02:41, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Chase Aircraft

• ... that the contract for production of the C-123 Provider, developed by Chase Aircraft, was awarded to Fairchild Aircraft as a result of a scandal involving Henry J. Kaiser (pictured)?

5x expanded by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 05:34, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Geology of Masschusetts

• ... that although Massachusetts is located at the 42nd parallel north, it is made up of rocks which originated near the South Pole?

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 04:59, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• The article references different pages of one book multiple times. Tip: A cleaner way to do this is <ref name="bkname">{{cite book |...}}</ref>{{rp|1}} ... <ref name="bkname"/>{{rp|2}} .... See the help page for citation template for more details. hth. Looks good otherwise. Woz2 (talk) 13:55, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

To prevent duplicating information you can then use the <ref name= "Scott p. 777">{{harvnb|NAME|YEAR|p=777}}</ref> harvnb citing template. -- Esemono (talk) 14:57, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Guanajuato

• ... that while Guanajuato's economy was traditionally based on mining and agriculture, today about 30% is based on industry?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 01:59, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• OK this is lame. Open to suggestions for somthing better.Thelmadatter (talk) 02:00, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• Very impressive article with lots of good hook material. I'd opt for something focusing on the architecture or history. Maybe something like:

• alt 1 ... that Guanajuato is the birthplace of Diego Rivera and contains one of the older sites of Mesoamerica (artifact pictured)? Cbl62 (talk) 02:54, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Brian Halligan

• ... that Brian Halligan, an executive and author (pictured, on the right with coauthor David Meerman Scott), draws inspiration for marketing excellence from the rock band the Grateful Dead?

Created by Woz2 (talk). Self nom at 04:37, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• image has to be 100 x 100 max. There seem to be other changes made to formatting which may effect the bot. Victuallers (talk) 10:06, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Fixed! Thanks! Woz2 (talk) 13:45, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Orang Asal

• ... the indigenous people of Malaysia, known as the Orang Asal, were originally named as such by communist rebels seeking support during the Malayan Emergency?

Created by Chipmunkdavis (talk). Self nom at 11:18, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 06:48, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 1

Angelo Dibona

• ... that Italian mountaineer Angelo Dibona (1897-1956) has a French mountain named for him, and was still making first ascents at age 65?

Created/expanded by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 06:18, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Coffee production in India

Coffee Plantation in India

• ... that the earliest variety of Coffea arabica grown in India (pictured coffee plantation) was named Kent?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 04:30, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• Added an img.-- N.V.V. Char ^Talk . 05:19, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 ...that probably the most commonly planted Coffea arabica in India and Southeast Asia is named S.795? --Rosiestep (talk) 05:01, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

The Kate Smith Show

• ... that The Kate Smith Show theme song was "When the Moon Comes over the Mountain," rather than Smith's better known rendition of "God Bless America"?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Temple Beth Israel (Sharon, Pennsylvania)

• ... that in the mid-1940s Temple Beth Israel of Sharon, Pennsylvania held Reform services on Friday nights and Orthodox ones on Saturday mornings?

5x expanded by Jayjg (talk). Self nom at 01:05, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Paleoleishmania & Lutzomyia adiketis

• ... that the extinct sandfly species Lutzomyia adiketis is host to the Paleoleishmania species P. neotropicum?

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 15:34, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Bedsitcom

• ... that the Channel 4 series Bedsitcom was a reality TV programme that featured three actors and three unaware members of the public?

Created by A Thousand Doors (talk). Self nom at 14:10, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: I'm not entirely sure that that's the most eloquent hook that I could've written. Basically, Bedsitcom documented the lives of six young adults in London. Three of them thought that they were taking part in a standard reality TV series about six young adults living together in a flat, and were unaware that the other three were actually actors being directed by a team of writers in a separate room. These three actors would often manipulate the three genuine contestants into doing the sorts of crazy things that might normally occur on a sitcom. Sources: [6] [7]. Can, err, anyone think of a succinct way of expressing that premise in a hook? A Thousand Doors (talk) 14:26, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Sarbufis

• ... that in 1955 the Indonesian film workers union Sarbufis launched a campaign to ban American newsreel film?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:40, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Sarbuksi

• ... that by 1962 the communist-led Indonesian forest workers union Sarbuksi claimed to have a quarter of a million members?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:38, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 06:42, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

US Railcar

• ... that despite being a builder of railroad rolling stock, US Railcar has no facilities with which to construct their products?

Created by C628 (talk). Self nom at 01:58, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 2

Platt-LePage Aircraft Company

• ... that the Platt-LePage Aircraft Company was formed after one of its founders was impressed by a flight demonstration of a Nazi helicopter?

5x expanded by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 03:57, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Iron Fist Campaign

• ... that more than 9,000 women were sterilized as a result of the Iron Fist Campaign?

Created by Cryptic C62 (talk). Self nom at 03:23, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• length and creation are good. Hook is referenced in article. Source is Marie Claire, perhaps not the best source of international news, but appears to be a good article. As this is surely a controversial topic, perhaps before moving to prep another reviewer could give a second opinion on the Marie Claire source. The Interior(Talk) 04:10, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Brock Reservoir

• ... that Brock Reservoir saves unused water from the All-American Canal that would otherwise be lost to Mexico?

Created by Lvi56 (talk). Self nom at 09:00, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Special occasion holding area

Do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, please nominate them in the candidate entries section above under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially-timed appearance on the Main Page.

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

For December 10

This nomination has an unusual history, having been nominated originally for a date-specific spot on October 28. The discussion WT:DYK#Hook with Oct 28 request date explains the situation. Pursuant to that discussion, Paralympiakos and I request that the two articles Magomed Sultanakhmedov and Rafał Moks that were moved to article space on 24 October, now be held for a December 10 hook. These two mixed martial arts fighters were due to face each other in a championship bout on October 28; their bout was postponed at the last moment. On December 10, there will be three bouts for inaugural global championship (different weight divisions) and our intention is for a 6-article hook for that date. EdChem (talk) 02:59, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Original Nomination for October 28 - including a belated (and much appreciated) DYKtick from Strange Passerby

... that M-1 Global's Eastern European Champions Artiom Damkovsky, Magomed Sultanakhmedov and Americas Champion Kenny Garner (replacing injured Maxim Grishin) face their Western European Champion counterparts Mairbek Taisumov, Rafał Moks and Guram Gugenishvili for the lightweight, middleweight and heavyweight division championships (respectively) in mixed martial arts today in St. Petersburg? Jointly Created by Paralympiakos (talk) and EdChem (talk). Self nom at 17:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC) Please note: All 6 articles in this hook have been worked on by both nominators in user space, and were moved to article space today. For ease of checking, this link from M-1 Global confirms the match ups and the championships each fighter holds, this link confirms that Grishin was replaced due to injury. Suggestions for alternative (shorter) hooks most welcome, we had trouble coming up with something sufficiently short that mentioned all seven fighters (Taisumov is not a new article). EdChem (talk) 17:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC) More compact hook to consider... EdChem (talk) 19:30, 24 October 2010 (UTC) ALT1: * ... that today in St. Petersburg, M-1 Global's mixed martial arts world championships are being decided in the lightweight (Artiom Damkovsky vs. Mairbek Taisumov), middleweight (Magomed Sultanakhmedov vs. Rafał Moks) and heavyweight (Kenny Garner (replacing injured Maxim Grishin) vs. Guram Gugenishvili) divisions? ALT2: * ... that today in St. Petersburg, MMA bouts will determine M-1 Global's lightweight (Artiom Damkovsky vs. Mairbek Taisumov), middleweight (Magomed Sultanakhmedov vs. Rafał Moks) and heavyweight (Kenny Garner (replacing injured Maxim Grishin) vs. Guram Gugenishvili) Champions? ALT3: * ... that M-1 Global's lightweight (Artiom Damkovsky vs. Mairbek Taisumov), middleweight (Magomed Sultanakhmedov vs. Rafał Moks) and heavyweight (Kenny Garner (replacing injured Maxim Grishin) vs. Guram Gugenishvili) MMA Champions will be determined today in St. Petersburg? In addition to EdChem's comments, I'd like to request the Oct 28, 1p.m. London time slot, due to the event starting at 11.30 EST that day. I think this would give the hook time to ....hook prior to the event starting and also cover a little bit during the event. Thanks. Paralympiakos (talk) 23:44, 24 October 2010 (UTC) Added ALT3 - shorter still, and brings the bolded names close to the start of the hook. I am comfortable with whichever of these the reviewers might feel is most suitable. EdChem (talk) 12:04, 25 October 2010 (UTC) A belated . Obviously now a new hook is needed though. Strange Passerby (talk • contribs) 10:59, 29 October 2010 (UTC) Thanks. Please see WT:DYK as myself and EdChem have laid out a proposal concerning this matter. Paralympiakos (talk) 13:29, 29 October 2010 (UTC) Moved from Special Holding Area - see WT:DYK for details. EdChem (talk) 02:29, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

The goal 6-article hook would be something like:

* ... that M-1 Global's welterweight (Tom Gallicchio vs. Shamil Zavurov) middleweight (Magomed Sultanakhmedov vs. Rafał Moks), and light heavyweight (Tomasz Narkun vs. Vyacheslav Vasilevsky) MMA Champions will be determined at M-1 Challenge XXII today?

Magomed Sultanakhmedov and Rafał Moks Jointly Created by Paralympiakos (talk) and EdChem (talk). Self nom at 17:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC). Tom Gallicchio, Shamil Zavurov, Tomasz Narkun and Vyacheslav Vasilevsky Jointly Created by Paralympiakos (talk) and EdChem (talk). Self nom at TIME and DATE to follow.

Updating work on these articles will be completed over the next few weeks in user space; the four new articles will be moved into article space in early December. EdChem (talk) 02:59, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

December 25 2010

Unto Us is Born a Son

• ... that although first published in the 1582 songbook Piae Cantiones (pictured), the Christmas carol Unto Us is Born a Son may be derived from 12th and 13th century French organum repertories?

New article by Rob (talk) 22:43, 25 November 2010 (UTC) . It would be quite nice to see this up sometime on or after the 28th November (1st day of Advent), although any time in the Christmas period would be good.

• A very nice well-referenced article with an offline citation accepted IGF. Just a little point; we need a reference to the image, something like (x pictured) — then it's fine. And, why not nominate it for Christmas Day itself (no nominations yet, and more appropriate than in Advent)?--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 18:06, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I've added the little description. It would be quite nice to see it on Christmas day I suppose, although I assumed that because it's already written it wouldn't pass the "new article" criteria. (I thought it was more useful to post the article before Christmas than wait until nearer the day in case somebody looks it up for a carol service!) Is there a holding area for Christmas day I could add it to? Rob (talk) 23:26, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

• That's fine now. Suggest moving it into the Special occasion holding area under a heading "December 25 (Christmas Day)" or something like that.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:58, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks, placed in holding area. Rob (talk) 10:58, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Late December 2010

Circumcision of Jesus

• ... that the Gospel of Luke states that the Circumcision of Jesus (pictured) took place eight days after his birth?

• Comment: I have a special date request for this one. The Feast of the Circumcision of Christ is January 1, and this would be especially appropriate for that day. In lieu of that, December 25 would be appropriate. Raul654 (talk) 22:18, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Created by Raul654 (talk). Self nom at 22:18, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• Image fine, refs look good, removed stub assessment, but not sure you are allowed an external in line ref in the text? Although I agree it looks neat here. Tick when resolved Victuallers (talk) 23:16, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

• If you're talking about the {{Bibleverse-nb}} template, that's the correct way to cite a Bible verse on Wikipedia. – iridescent 23:19, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

I was, so Victuallers (talk) 09:12, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Cincinnati Riot of 1853

• … that the Cincinnati Riot of 1853 involved Germans objecting to the presence of an Italian preaching in French in the United States on Christmas Day?

  This one is entirely Aymatth2's fault, as well. Uncle G (talk) 14:00, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
• ALT:... that the Cincinnati Riot of 1853 involved Germans objecting to the presence of an Italian preaching in French in the United States on Christmas Day? {Let's save this hook for use on X'mas.} --174.89.163.171 (talk) 05:18, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Andrew McKinley, Leon Lishner

• ... that Andrew McKinley, David Aiken, and Leon Lishner created the parts of the three kings in the world premiere of Menotti's Christmas opera Amahl and the Night Visitors which was broadcast live by NBC to an audience of millions on Christmas Eve 1951?

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Self nom at 01:23, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

• My plan is to make this a tripple nom with Aiken and Lishner. If reviewers could please hold off until those articles are also created, I would appriciate it. Also I would like this to be up at 7:00 PM New York City Time on Christmas Eve if possible, which is the place and time the original production was performed at its premiere.4meter4 (talk) 01:36, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Mark Miodownik

• ... that Mark Miodownik will deliver the first part of the Royal Institution Christmas Lectures tonight?

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 23:30, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

He will give the lectures, spanning a few days, in "late December". I think they usually start a few days before Christmas. 2009 event was 21–25 December. There'll be more info as the event approaches of course. Christopher Connor (talk) 23:30, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

For January 1, 2011, Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation

• ALT1 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation represents the courage, valour, strength, cleanliness, truth, high moral standards and high level of motivation expected of FBI agents?

• ALT2 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation was first used on January 1, 1941 and represents the values, standards and history of the FBI and its agents?

Expanded and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
This nomination is a bit of a special case. I originally nominated Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on August 3 following a 5x expansion (see discussion above under #Articles created/expanded on August 3). Everyone accepted that it met the DYK criteria but the nomination was derailed by a political dispute over timing. I've put forward a compromise at User talk:Jimbo Wales#Compromise proposal, which involves passing this DYK now but scheduling its appearance on January 1, 2011, which is 60 years to the day since the seal was first used. This proposal has been generally welcomed so I'm putting it forward here for formal consideration. I'm aware that the timeframe is somewhat longer than would be usual for scheduled DYKs, but in the circumstances I think a some flexibility would be justified. I've put forward two possible hooks: the original one as proposed earlier, and a new alternative tying the DYK in more directly with the date. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

• Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification: Are we nominating this (with whichever hook) sans image as you initially suggested on Jimbo's talk page?
  --K10wnsta (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
• Appended: I see that you removed the image from inclusion in the original nomination, so I'll assume this post-dated nomination would not include the image either. However, this necessitates further clarification:

Are we excluding the image from this DYK solely because of the recent interaction with the FBI?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

In effect yes, but in my view it's a necessary evil if we're to reach a satisfactory compromise on this issue. -- ChrisO (talk) 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

• - Tentative Even if the motivation behind qualifying this article for DYK was questionable, I think you already achieved not just a satisfactory compromise, but a completely valid and justifiable use for it. In fact, it's use is so valid, refusing to use the image for no other reason than the recent hoobajoo with the FBI is blatantly (chilled) censorship...and I just can't get behind that. If we're going to censor it, we need to go whole hog or don't go at all.
  Could we put it up for 'On This Day' to avoid reasoning for exclusion of the image?
  --K10wnsta (talk) 01:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
• No opinion on whether to feature on the future date; however, it would be better if this hook didn't remain on the suggestions page for the intervening months, as it is bound to attract further discussion and the page is unwieldy enough as it is. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Espresso's suggestion may be useful for more than just making this page leaner. A delay in nomination would lend to better perspective for those establishing consensus. In other words, removing it from discussion for a couple months would also put some time between recent events and the article (and hopefully image) being contemplated for a main page feature (unless such a delay would disqualify it from use in DYK section).
--K10wnsta (talk) 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Comment This hook should not "disappear" for a few months. It is far better to leave it here to enable a wide input from editors on the issue. I think this is a good compromise that involves common sense, the proposal and special treatment of the timescale fitting nicely under WP:IAR. Mjroots (talk) 13:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

• Support ALT2 for use on 1 January, 2011. EdChem (talk) 10:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

• Suggest scrapping this troublesome controversial DYK, the user that instigated the issue has also since retired, suggest retiring this idea as well. Off2riorob (talk) 13:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• Would you please stop with your blatant pushing of the issue? Putting this off until January removes all controversy related to it. Silverseren^C 13:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• Your comment is just a simple personal attack, I have bigger fish to relentlessly pursue than this worthless disruptive DYK. Off2riorob (talk) 14:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• Nothing of what I said was or is a personal attack. I know you greatly dislike ChrisO and myself, but could you please not try and push an already outdated issue? Silverseren^C 14:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• I support ALT2 for the 1 January date. The anniversary makes this a very good choice for that day. -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

I do not support 1 January 2011. The DYK section is for new articles. There are exceptions like April Fools and Halloween; I do not see the point of making every day of the year a possible exception. Geschichte (talk) 20:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose Anniversary or not, a four-month wait at DYK is an overkill. The point of DYK is to present new or newly expanded articles, not to present "on this day". By then this article will be more than four months old. If this line of though is going to be followed, DYK is going to end up in a mess. The length of this entry is plain evidence for why keeping things around for almost five months is not a good idea. Arsenikk ^(talk) 13:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

• per IAR. I would count this as a valid use of IAR. This could have gone up for today. The only reason it isn't going up is for political reasons. I disagree with Jimbo and others on that matter and think we should run it now, but there is no need to reject it entirely on that basis. NW (Talk) 03:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
• Support as this would have been promoted in the usual time window if not for the decision to shelve it until the political heat was off. To kill it now because a delay was agreed to would be an egregious abuse of trust. - Dravecky (talk) 09:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose per Arsenikk. The Utahraptor^{Talk to me}/_{Contributions} 22:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support per NuclearWarfare and Dravecky—Chris!_c/t 20:05, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support, per Chrishomingtang (talk · contribs). -- Cirt (talk) 06:13, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support - This was initially nominated in a timely manner, with an image of the seal, but due to political considerations (public dispute between Wikimedia Foundation and the FBI over the use of the image of the seal) it was agreed that the image should not be used on the main page, and that the hook should be held and run at a later date, when the dispute was not so much in the news. The 60th anniversary of the first use of the seal makes a perfect tie-in, and while it is longer than DYK hooks are normally held for special occassions, Dravecky is correct that it would be egregious to reject it now on the basis of timing. cmadler (talk) 19:07, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support - cmadler really sums up the issue for me. The circumstances of the original nomination and the fact of the 60th anniversary are significant enough that we ought to make an exception to the requirement that DYK items be from recently-created articles. -- Black Falcon ^(talk) 19:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support I agree with NW, but don't think we need to IAR, considering that hooks are regularly kept back for months for the April fools and Halloween main pages. I don't think we should treat this any differently. Smartse (talk) 10:28, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support - The Bushranger _{Return fire}^{Flank speed} 17:12, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
• Conditional support if, and only if, the squabble with the feds is over. ScottyBerg (talk) 17:14, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose I'm worried that this is too obviously a matter of giving the FBI the proverbial finger than promoting something encyclopedic. I'm all for criticizing the FBI, but we shouldn't invoke exceptions to basic guidelines just to promote our own POV. It seems far more prudent to pull up your sleeves and make this a quickie FA or get it on "On this day". Peter ^Isotalo 10:43, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
• Weak oppose. ALT2 is a better hook than ALT1, but it would be better still on OTD than DYK (it would get more readers that way, as well). Physchim62 (talk) 17:29, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose - ALT1 is just a boost or peacock term on FBI. ALT2 is better, but I did not feel it to be so special to be included in DYK. -- Rajith Mohan ^{(Talk to me..)} 06:08, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose per Arsenikk. Send to OTD instead. Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:59, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

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