User talk:Lihaas

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I would like to ask that how can i add https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Kolkata_Hospital_Fire article in sub-section of AMRI Hospitals article--Work2win (talk) 04:39, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

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Hi Lihaas! I just want to repeat that you should take a deep breath and be calm. You should revise your initial response, which gives a bad impression. It is not easy to feel that you are under attack, of course!

I would suggest that you calmly provide diffs and links to statements by administrators about your behavior, which typically mention your good faith and good editing, even if they rarely comment on an isolated problem. It is ridiculous for them to smear you for temporary and then quickly released blocks, when you were acting to save articles on hot current events, and facing disruptive and destructive edits. The problem is that WP lacks editors willing to edit the current events articles, which are inherently attract disruptive editors.

Let others do the defending. In my opinion, the RFA is far below the standard of actionable RFAs, and administrators will first ask that it be edited, before anybody will take it seriously. My guess is further, that you will be asked to agree that you will only cite documents using the word "terrorism", if you want to post incidents of terrorism, for example. I'd hope that the other editors criticizing you would also receive advice about how they treat you, etc.

Warm and sincere regards, Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 12:18, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

I agree with you, but i was also the one to make such discussion when others made the change (the new page doesnt mention terrorism at all, but i still tried for criteria)

I mentioned the ITN nature of positive edits(Lihaas (talk) 12:34, 28 January 2011 (UTC)).

So they removed the only hope of consensus. I'm sorry, then.

In debates, a cheap tactic is to make a lot of little allegations all at once. If the adversary defends himself against every allegation, then they will be seen as defensive and they will only be answering the attacker's battle ground. Remain calm, and just respond the most important attacks in a calm fashion. Impartial observers can recognize what is going on. Don't worry about defending yourself against everything.

You are also allowed to be human, and occasionally make mistakes, and even mutter a disagreeable word on rare occasion. Everybody has made mistakes. You should look at other RFCs to see how real problem editors behave. My guess is that your case will be regarded as a waste of time, for all, that should have been resolved elsewhere. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 13:25, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

I calmed dwon from the initial heat of the moment. then i dont think i resolved to all little allegation and resorted to defending my general actions of good cotnent. was that okay?

I believe someone resorted to hauling you to admin instead of resorting donclifct resolution, how did that work out?(Lihaas (talk) 13:30, 28 January 2011 (UTC)).

I noticed your becoming calm, with admiration.

Oh, I have been cautioned a few times, but (unless my senility is worse than usual today) only in exchanges with an apparently departed editor (Eds...), whom I was told privately to ignore---great advice, and in connection with the Swedish elections page, where we met.

You can read about my rather tame (mis)adventures on my current talk page. I suppose that the administrator decided I had learned my lesson and I had pledged not to repeat a complaint naming an administrator(editor?) on a talk page (rather than an RFC) or had better things to do, or probably both. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 14:54, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

I am glad that this (at best distracting) chapter has been closed. What a waste of time and energy!

However, you did receive some well deserved and long overdue statements of support and admiration, for your many and deep contributions to the most contentious and challenging pages on Wikipedia. Best regards,  Kiefer.Wolfowitz  (Discussion) 09:56, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

2011 Egyptian protests

You undid my edit in which I included a speech early on the 29th, and you made it part of the events of the 28th. Do you think the demonstration is over and everyone will go home now, or at 1 am, or 2 am with a clean break between Jan 28 events and Jan 29 events? If some other building is burned or people are shot at 3 am or 5 am would you still keep that under the January 28 heading? What is your intuitive time for events being listed under the next day? I would say January 29 is January 29, and not just "technically speaking." The speech belongs with other events which happen on the 29th. Perhaps the layout will be more obvious in a few hours, as events continue. Edison (talk) 22:55, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

RE: Uprising

Is splitting the background a good thing? Its really small and short. It like a summary by itself. thoughts? We gonna have to spilt the timeline soon. maybe by Saturday Hopefully, Mubarak will leave before the article get bigger (for us) and more ppl die (for the Egyptians) -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 13:48, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

• CNN just released an article that discusses the identity of the pro-Mubarak supporters. [1] -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 16:24, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Hey dude, No today we had a bombing and protests are still going on. Keep in mind that most of them have not left the place since Wednesday night. Tomorrow is gonna be a big day tho. I have been busy today with my girl friend but I am back now for few hrs. You can undo the vodaphone thing IF it was mention in the other article or in the main article. I got the SMS and I am gonna upload a picture of of the SMS soon. BTW, 4 and 5 needs major update. I am start working on the 4, you wonna take 5th? -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 18:23, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Mubarak steps down as NDP party leader and NDP members starting to leave the party too -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 20:13, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Hey dude, I am so sorry. The above thing turns what to be bad news. It was like the whole Gamael leaving the Country thing. BTW, I didnt remove the disambiguate last time. I think its helpful so we dont get the many edit request to the page regarding Domestic and international reaction. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 15:24, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

[2] [3] -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 18:44, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

I think less edits have been done to the page due to the fact that its semi-protected and it has not been on the ITN section for a while. Today should be another million man march. I talked ppl there and they say they are not leaving til he leaves even if they have to wait til September. We do need to work on the article tho. I was the only person working on yesterday. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 09:10, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

I am going to work on the 6th. Hope to finish it soon. You should work on the 7th less you wonna switch. Alexandria already have their version of "tahrir square". They have the train stations of El Ramel, Siedy Bisher, al-Qaed mosque. and El Manshya. I have no idea what will happened when Mubarak leaves, its anyone guess. If the government accepts all the demand it might be different the Tunisia. If they dont, I dont know what will happen. The MB is loosing a huge support (even among their young supports) for speaking with the government before Mubarak stepped down. BTW, new death toll number have been released At least 297 killed in Egypt unrest (Verified) -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 15:21, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Center Party (Hizb Al-Wasat)- a Muslim Brotherhood offshoot with moderate tendencies. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 15:32, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

They belong to the reformed part of the MB (the younger faction that wanted to reach out to the copts) and they are a bit more secular. what is "that" which you wonna add to the template? I am confused. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 16:28, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

BtW, you should nominate the article for ITN. They will accept. Yesterday was the biggest protest ever and the new confirmed number of death should put it over the top. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 07:16, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

•  Done. Check it out -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 12:54, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

BTW, what is ditto? -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 13:06, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

I have lived in Canada for a while -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 14:16, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

• BTW, Hamas eyes Brotherhood rise - Change in regime in neighbouring Egypt could be a major boost for the Hamas movement which has been ruling Gaza for the past four years. Hamas' early origins lie in the Muslim Brotherhood, and the two groups still have very close links. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 15:49, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
  • I read the papers. Honestly, I thought it would have been worse. Aljazeera over sold it (its not the arabic version of wikileaks). I dont know if hamas are talk to Israel. Too much blood between both of them. That said, I think the Egyptian Uprising (Yes, I think it has reached that level NOW) to good for peace. It will make the right-wing really think about it and perhaps agree to the 1967 two state solution. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 16:03, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
    • Netanyahous has lierberman balls in his hands and he squeezing the shit outta of it so lierberman wont speak. They dont wonna make Egypt more anti-Israel (Even tho, I dont think Egypt can be more anti-israel Remember the whole israel shark thing). BTW, which section are you working on? to avoid edit conflict. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 16:58, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Boutros Boutros Ghali was on TV last night. Here's the link غالي : خائف علي مستقبل مصر. BTW, Farouk El-Baz has also spoken. Net very kind words to Mubarak; Found links Arabic Link English Link. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 17:10, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

OMG, HE MIGHT BE LEAVING (office) TONIGHT -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 15:17, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

• YES :'( -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 15:25, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

[4] need your support -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 16:55, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

I honestly did not catch that -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 18:21, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

OK. Now I am pissed. I saw Omar and Mubarak's Speech. They want war, they got one. Tomorrow is going to be the biggest protest the world have seen in this MILLENNIUM. I got the word right now that people are coming out with numbers that has not been seen on TV. They are also moving to the palace. Bloody fucking idiots, if he stepped down today, noone will be killed tomorrow. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 21:46, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

• You gonna get us blocked; Breath man. We never thought it was a short fight. The army was, is and always be trusted by Egyptian. They always have NPOV. They are the people's army; for the people by the people. we dont want this to be 1952 nor Iran. Peaceful til the end. Ghandi style. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 00:14, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Just because the west likes something doesnt make it bad nor evil. MLK is loved by the west. Even Che is loved in europe. Keep in mind that I have friends among the protesters, I dont want to see them harmed. I got family there that I dont want to killed nor live in chaos -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 00:22, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Personal Question: What is your political views? Where do you stand on the political compass? -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 00:33, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

• (socially centre-right) so you are pro-life, against gay marriage, for stricter immigration laws, against WEED or am I wrong? --
  • I thought I talked a hardline right winger for a second and freaked myself out. me and you diff only on the Economy (I think). Anyways, back to article, The (Analysis)‎ part needs to stay or everything in it well be taken out now and then add later and we might loose the sources for it. beside, it will start an edit war and seeing how the article has many editors working on it, its bond to happen and I dont think its wise for either of us to get into one right now due to the edit conflict that we had with the polish IP -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 01:15, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
    • socialist, no. 3rd way. I am not an economist (even tho I am doing my masters in Economics). I never claim I have all the knowledge because only an ignorant man does that. Back to the article, I trying to work on the Analysis thing a bit here but I trying to come everyone down for the time being otherwise, edit wars and the article goes nowhere. beside we have many IP editing the page and untrusted user to we need to keep an eye on them now for the time being. There's a mosque (Its Egypt, there are mosques everywhere) is there and they use it as hospital too. I gonna go to bed now (at-least try to). so tired. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 01:39, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

The NPD is different than the ruling party in Tunisia. The NPD was built around Mubarak, Mubarak collapse, party is too. Same thing happened when Anwar El Sadat decided to the change his party and start the NPD. All members of the old party switched to the new one. In egypt, we didnt have a party, we had a person ruling the country. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 17:40, 11 February 2011 (UTC) PS: Need your support to rename the article a revolution. see talk page -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 17:51, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

I agree with you about the revolution part but keep in mind how long it will take us to find enough people to agree on a double rename. It ok. to be a bit ahead for now than too late. beside, google trends is on the revolution part. Omar is done. Army does not like him. Tantawi is one of us and he cant stand his ass or sami anon. and Protesters cant stand omar. NPD was not the ruling party, it was ruler's party. I am on facebook but I remain anonymous there for reason I will explain later. If you give me your account, I will add you and I will be able to explain there. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 18:28, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

See Google Trends (egyptian protests, egyptian revolution) [5] -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 18:43, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

I understand the NPOV issue. I also understand that emotions are running high. But that does not change the fact that a 83 yr old dictator who ruled for 30 with an iron fist was over throwing and a new constitution is being written. If you look at the american revolution, thats how it was. There also the trends and the fact that Mubarak said the 197 article from the constitution will be taken out (ending Emer. Laws). But I understand your point of view and respect you for it. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 19:35, 11 February 2011 (UTC) You can add me on facebook -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 09:03, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Egypt

Few things. Easier to respond to you directly since the talk page is so hectic:

1. Thanks for all of your work, including keeping POV in check and a general eye on the article. The reason I added Christians and Women to the lead is because they are the notable addition to the political scene, and their presence in the protest--along with secularists in general--is one of the main factors that distinguishes this event from a typical Islamic fundamentalist uprising. They don't have to be mentioned explicitly, but I think it is a noteworthy aspect of the protests and not a POV issue to do so.
2. Did you remove the Arrests and Deaths section? I'm having trouble finding when the change happened or where some of the content went. [It appears there's some markup issue since other editors are saying they can see it in the edit box but not on the page...any idea?]
3. I've noticed a few spelling or grammar edits slip in from a few of your recent versions. Happens to all of us and I've done it several times already, but please give a quick check if you can before you post to see if you can catch them.
4. Oh, forgot one. Sourcing from the television is kind of a mixed blessing. It's easy to find and often up-to-the-minute, but it can't be used for quotes, and it might be better to do a google search for a hard-copy source. I think that's my preference; it takes a few minutes longer but the content will be more robust afterwards. Ocaasi (talk) 15:38, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks again, and cheers, Ocaasi (talk) 15:12, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

re:#4. Right, I think with very breaking news, it makes sense to post it on Talk and wait for an online source. That allows both confirmation and avoids having to do the referencing twice or leave out quotes. I guess that could go either way, but I'm still partly attached to treating this article as one small step behind the news, for encyclopedic purposes. Ocaasi (talk) 15:46, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I think Breaking News is a great place to put it. That way we can encourage other additions to go there as well and turn the talk page into a little holding tank for new additions waiting for sourcing/confirmation. Also, I pretty much don't give a shit if you check your grammar with me, just at the article. Ocaasi (talk) 15:54, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Currency war

IMO the historical sections are already good enough for GA status. For FA it would need more on the 1930s currency war, but that might require some serious research. Ive found dozens of mentions of the 1930s outbreak, but theyre mainly incidental as part of wider coverage of the great depression. I agree the perspectives section needs updating / trimming / rewriting before we put it up for GA. Dont see any reason why you ought to wait for me to respond if there any edits you want to make. We can just boldy edit / revert each other and then go discuss if need be (the standard WP:BRD cycle which is a nice efficient way to build articles). FeydHuxtable (talk) 17:41, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Liked most of your changes, though I returned Can, Aus and NZ to a seperate section to the US as they are in a very different situation and are playing very different roles. Probably China should have its own section to as its one of the two key players. FeydHuxtable (talk) 17:38, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

ITN for Kosovan parliamentary election, 2010

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Talk page clarification

I'm sorry if I did not make my point clear... I meant the heading as a question of whether at some point the title of the article may need to be changed. Just like others above on that talk page asked if the title should be "revolution." So my question was appropriate, I feel, (and similar to the headings) for that discussion page. Sorry if I did not express it clearly enough. My point was about what the nature of this actually will turn out to be, and if the title needs eventual changing...or maybe at some point another article (if it does actually turn out to be an actual "civil war") may need to be created. Just like the point about the word "revolution" which was raised a few days ago. Cheers. Archiver of Records (talk) 23:14, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:2011 Egyptian protests

Your comments would be appreciated on this page that may be of interest to you.

• Talk:2011 Egyptian protests#Reliable sources on Egyptian affairs?Wipsenade (talk) 11:59, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

:-) !Wipsenade (talk) 11:59, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Cool it man with that Polish IP sock User talk:94.246.150.68. I'm geting evidence on other pages (see Chetniks) ect, to get him temporally blocked off of the Egypt related pages!--Wipsenade (talk) 10:11, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Have you seen this?

Timeline of the 2011 Egyptian protests -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 17:51, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit Conflicts

Lihaas, a couple of times now you've deleted sections right after I've added them, without comment, perhaps unintentionally; for example this diff. I'm wondering if this is being caused by you doing something strange when there's an edit conflict? --Physics is all gnomes (talk) 18:25, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

More details: The other one was here where you reverted some changes I made to the international reactions section. It's just been pointed out to me (somewhat aggressively!) that I accidently reverted someone's recent change as well : are we both doing the same thing wrong, or could there be a bug in the software? --Physics is all gnomes (talk) 20:17, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

(Copying discussion of the first diff from my talk page here, this is getting confusing ;))--Physics is all gnomes (talk) 20:25, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

that wasnt an edit conflict (poor edit summary i agree), but the same content was already mentioned in the timeline bit above.Lihaas (talk) 20:16, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Ah okay, . I readded it to deaths before I got this message, as I thought it logical keep the death section as up to date as possible, but feel free to remove it again if you still disagree. --Physics is all gnomes (talk) 20:21, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Barack Obama, Sr.

Newross did a huge rewrite of the Barack Obama, Sr. article in a chronological fashion. He pushed existing sources together with some birther sources from WNT that didn't seem to support the other sources fact. The chronological rewrite appears to be NPOV but the sources are questionable. Since he attempted this on Obama Jr.s article can you take a look at his edit please? Alatari (talk) 00:23, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. This is a mess. It is a well organized rewrite with terrible sourcing combinations. I created a sandbox and now for the screaming since i reverted back to Jan 21. Meh... Alatari (talk) 00:56, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

ObL

Hi Lihaas, I'm not sure what you are trying to say with this phrase: "as well as a revolt from southern secessionists (where Osama Bin Laden is originally from[7])". How can he be "from" southern secessionists? People are "from" places. I am "from" England, and he is "from" Riyadh. If you are trying to say something different (I'm guessing you want to say that ObL's father is Yemeni, which is not the same as saying that ObL is from Yemen), please say so clearly and in English, rather than reverting perfectly reasonable changes. Thanks, Ericoides (talk) 07:09, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough. It was not stated clearly, that's all. Ericoides (talk) 11:41, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

How you've rephrased it is perfect :). Ericoides (talk) 17:53, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Re:

I responded to you on the article's talk page - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 16:32, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Wikiquette alerts page

Dear IP number User:94.246.150.68, User:The Egyptian Liberal and User:Lihaas, I have mentioned your cat fight over Talk:2011 Egyptian protests on the Wikiquette alerts page. Remember to read the WP:CIVIL page. it is a sensitive topic and warring over it will only cause more trouble. You can appeal here [[6]] if you think I or the Admin' have been too harsh over this issue. Sorry, it had to be done. I recomended the IP for a 12 to 24 hour ban to, so he could calm down off line.Wipsenade (talk) 16:52, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

AGF

I did mentioned him stalking you, the IP User:94.246.150.68 say bad thing about you and other users. He is the bad guy, that is why I though He should be temp' blocked. --Wipsenade (talk) 17:12, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

I beleave the IP to be a troll. Every one else just needs to be WP:CIVIL. un-WP:CIVIL is much less upsetting than an IP troll or bad guy--Wipsenade (talk) 17:30, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Case now resolved and dropped.Wipsenade (talk) 10:08, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

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admins have rules to follow before posting (see admin quide on the page), one of which means posting a note on the article page when its posted on ITN. And second is to give crdit to nominees/substantial contriobutors.(Lihaas (talk) 06:09, 8 February 2011 (UTC)).

Don't patronize me. As a frequent ITN/C commenter, you should know that I frequently update ITN and, therefore, don't need you to explain to me what the procedure is. If I missed something, you should be capable of adding a notice to someone's talk page rather than being a dick about it. -- tariqabjotu 11:00, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

what are you talking about patronising. I was "adding a notice" as you suggest. If i was "patronising" there would be a far more visible anger or tempaltes (but we dont template regulars). And i wasnt the one who wrote "being a dick about it" which is a NPA that i never wrote.Lihaas (talk) 06:09, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

No, you added a notice to my talk page, rather than to the talk page of the article or editor where an ITNtalk or ITNcredit is normally placed. And, yes, it is patronizing. You may have typed the message yourself, but it is effectively a template response --precisely what you would have told a new admin who had just edited ITN for the first time. And, thanks for reminding me that I said you were being a dick; I almost forgot. -- tariqabjotu 00:00, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

photo in 2010 Baghdad Church Attack article

Lihaas, wasn't there a photo in the article at one point? Where did it go? Or am I remembering incorrectly? --Kenatipo ^speak! 02:29, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, it said "Syrian" instead of "Syriac" in English on the church's own sign, adding to the confusion. Thanks. --Kenatipo ^speak! 16:53, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

You mean the Stock Exchange that WAS NOT the target of the attack? --Kenatipo ^speak! 17:27, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:2011 Egyptian protests

Lihaas, no one really added to our discussion on background info. So, what is next? I see a lot of info that is not totally relevant to the subject. In fact I do not know who put this list together? It seems to me it is a random list that does not in fact stick to the main reasons of the protests. What is your opinion and is there an alternative approach on this issue? --Osa osa 5 (talk) 05:56, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't comment at the talk page. The background section covers a variety of information important to understanding the historical context in which the protests arose. Not every event was directly causal but they all help inform the reader. That's why the section is called Background and not Causes. Does that distinction help? Ocaasi (talk) 23:04, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

EL - Al Jazeera Live Stream

I added an external link to Al Jazeera's youtube channel (currently broadcasting live streaming coverage). There's been some discussion about it on talk, mainly with User:cptnono who wanted/wants to remove it. SilverSeren agreed but I see a reason to keep it as long as we can update it reasonably as the feed changes. Would you add you opinion here?

Revolution?

Hey, I sorry I have not replied soon. Some friends came over and took me out to celebrate and I am still kinda of hang to da over. I am not worried about the MB, they are weak. I just learned that during the protests. The NPD and Mubarak made them seem much stronger than they are. There number are around 1.5 million (Christian alone out number them). People have their asses as much as NPD and almost of other political parties. and it always good to have a strong beloved secular army like ours if they wonna turn us into iran Also I know that some NPD members are still there but they are not stupid enough to fuck with the army (they got guns). Many of them a trying to leave. we shall see what happens in the next few days. The article is been ravaged by animals now. I might work a bit on the article Clean some shit up. PS: Algeria is gonna be very interesting. They have really extremist there and I feel more people are going to die than Egypt and Tunisia combined. We shall see what happens on the 14th (My guess its gonna be a big day in Iran and Algeria) -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 16:21, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

In my opinion, Yemen is fucked. America might let democracy kick in in Saudi before then let go of Yemen and I understand why. Somalia and Yemen will be Afghanistan pre-2001. Those two country need a strong man (He has to be uncorrupted) and the only strong men there are Al Qaeda. Beside Houthis and Southern secessions. I see hope almost everywhere, but even I cant see a good outcome for yemen. but I might be wrong

Algeria is different. The country had a civil war (BTW, I never saw a war that was civil) like Yemen. The Islamist there are armed and dangerous. But the army is strong and secular. If the army is willing to let only secular party to run for office and make to "almost" democracy, we might see major reform but nothing like Egypt and Tunisia.

If I was a betting man, and I am. My money will be on Syria. Arabs have a rivalry between them. When Mubarak was asked about his son taking over, he used to say "Egypt is not Syria". that pissed a lot Syrian and they tough the same thing will happen in Egypt. Now that Gamal is out, They are more pissed off. I think that where the next big one is going to happened. Things are gonna be more clear on the 14th. I think tomorrow is gonna be a big day in Iran, Syria and Algeria. We shall see.

PS: I know that you dont like Ghandi but I think you would agree with his view on the Partition of India. I think it was big mistake on the Muslim League part and muslims who accepted it (I was muslim until few days ago and even then I thought I was a fuck up). I think if India and Pakistan can see beyond what separate them as people of different faith, and unite; there is no telling what they will be be able to do. They will have China by the balls. A super-power. but I cant see that happening within the next 5 yrs. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 11:39, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Oh shit, I thought that I kept my location hidden. But yes, I live there and honestly, there is noway on anything happening there unless the foreign workers decide to do anything. I think we should get back to the article now, things seems to be clam -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 13:48, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

No man, we are not going to stop until ALL our demands are met. They changed the government again today but we are not buying it. too many of Mubarak's friends are in the new government. This not going to until September when we hold free and fair election. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 02:11, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Jumu'ah (Arabic: جمعة) (also known as jum'ah, means Friday.) Tunisia is calm at the moment. They are cleaning the country from Bin Ali partners. Islamist have closed some Brothels there and they are talking more but they have almost no power in a country that's mostly secular. BTW, I was gonna talk to you today. I was thinking about splitting the Egyptian protests timeline to pre and post Mubarak's resignation; Then I was gonna put the pre Mubarak's resignation up for peer view before nominating it for Good Class. I think it will be very easy to to get up up to Good or maybe featured. Do you wonna do it? seeing how much you helped with it, at-least credit should go to one of us. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 06:33, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

I think it should be mentioned in the main article about the revolution and also in timeline if it said talks about Alexandria or any other city that had a place where people gathered. In Alexandria, you got (Ahmed) Orabi Square (Mansheya Square), Saad Zaghlul Square and Tahrir Square (formerly Mohammed Ali Square (originally Place des Consuls), , in Downtown. While you have The Forty Square (Arabic: ميدان الأربعين in Suez. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 12:50, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I am in Cairo right now. Its crazy. I trying to convince the youth leaders not to stop until all demands are meet. We are also are discussing that fact that the army needs to hand its power over to a presidential council made outta four people (3 civilian (Leftist, Liberal, and Intellectual) and an army personnel). We are also working with wikileaks to release the documents (even the sheered papers). The government that has form is ours. so yes, its a full blown revolution. I am gonna need your help updating the Analysis section. I have put some ideas and a draft in the talk page. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 10:32, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, we have few problems with that. The Leftist, the Liberals, the army and a majority of intellectuals have a problem with the brotherhood. The army (Gamal Abdel-Nasser) fucked the brotherhood and they tried to kill him and the army will never forget that (Also Islamist killed Anwar). They fucked the left and liberals (even tho they had an agreement among them not to run if one of them held a seat in any area to try to kick the NPD ass) in the 90s during election so they dont trust them. Leftists, Liberals, The army, and Many Intellectuals are worried that that MB might turn Egypt into an Islamic state or would try a coup. and you cant work with someone you cant trust. Beside, we are just talking about it right now. The MB also has some issues to deal with. Islamist are tearing each other apart right now. Ashar, Salafis, MBs, Sufis, The centre party and Gama'at Islamiya are taking talking shit about each others (as I thought). The MB youth is spilt between joining the centre party and some want to over throw the old leaders out (The reformist wing of the MBs youth). Everyone here is having a revolt of some kind against the old faces from the last 30 yrs; Its crazy and beautiful. PS: Did you the the proposal on the talk page? -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 14:11, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

I know, its great. We are trying to dismiss it too and we are doing the same thing to NPD. BTW, 2011 Lebanese protests needs your help. Outta everyone I have talked to wiki, you seem to be the most knowledgeable about Lebanon in general. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 12:11, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Algerian protests page reorg

Probably the best would be to propose a reorg strategy on the talk page. Give it a delay depending on your patience, prepare a reorg in an editor, trying to avoid dropping any material, and then go ahead if nobody answers/objects within a "reasonable" delay.

Using a tag if/when you make the reorg might be a good idea, with a very short delay. See Wikipedia:Template_messages/Maintenance#Articles_undergoing_major_edits. Probably something like: {{Inusefor|5 minutes to reorganise the page structure}} would give you enough time to preview the new version several times until it looks OK, save, and then remove the tag and save again, might be OK. Anything longer might be considered as you trying to "own" the page. i don't know if there are any guidelines of what would be considered reasonable.

But please don't rely on me to clean up errors. If i see things that look wrong, chances are i'll try to clean up, but no promises. Boud (talk) 22:56, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Palestine elections before october

Hi! The elections are before october. It could be the last day of September. In English, they say "no later than september", in Spanish, antes del fin de septiembre, in Italian, entro September. The error occurs because editors want to make reference to that month in the title, so they write "before" September. Regards. Againme (talk) 01:37, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. Both English and Spanish titles in the references are wrong. You have to read the main text to get the proper picture. I spoke to Ansalatina editor today about it... It is a matter of news bussiness... you do not want to mention in your title a month other than the one everybody else is writing in... Greetings. Againme (talk) 01:50, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Also, please be careful on writing just "Palestine", because that term refers to the whole region for now, at least until they have their own independent state, if they in fact do so some day. Againme (talk) 01:59, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

If that is your position, please write State of Palestine to be specific on what you mean. As you can see for yourself, Palestine refers in Wikipedia to the whole region. That is the stablished consensus for now. Againme (talk) 02:07, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

It was in the source. After all my explanation using every language in the references, you did not seem to understand. Anyway, they changed the title to the proper october, so did I. --Againme (talk) 18:50, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi again. Logic is not Original Research. Anyway, now we have a source that says October. --Againme (talk) 18:58, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Yeah! :) --Againme (talk) 19:14, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

2010-2011 Arab world protests

Sorry to bother you, but in this edit you added a hidden message below the header dedicated to Iraq, saying that it is different from other Arab countries because it is democratic (as well as Lebanon). Although I don't disagree with you, I decided to remove your addition because it did not seem relevant — while not authoritarian like other Arab World countries, Iraq is nonetheless in the midst of protests demanding changes in security and utilities. That alone is enough for it to be included uncontroversially. If you disagree, don't hesitate to reply and I'll listen to what you have to say. If you'd like a broader audience in discussing this, I recommend bringing it up on the article's talk page. Master&Expert (Talk) 04:38, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Article titles

Fine, but if it's 2010–2011 Tunisian revolution, then it *has* to be 2011 Egyptian revolution, not Egyptian Revolution of 2011. One or the other, but not both. —Nightstallion 17:56, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Egypt page names

Lihaas, though i agree the move from protests to revolution at the main page was premature, now that it's stuck, the domestic/international reactions articles should follow suit. Revolutions is not a bad name, it's just a little ahead of the curve. Still, given the current events nature of all the articles, I think that's not too much of a problem. So consistency becomes the next concern. Do you disagree? Ocaasi (talk) 19:37, 13 February 2011 (UTC) Hello. You have a new message at Ocaasi's talk page., sorry I responded on my talk page. Took almost as long to post this, but it will keep the convo in one place. Ocaasi (talk) 19:52, 13 February 2011 (UTC) again,

added photo to Baghdad church attack article

Hi, Lihaas. I added a photo of Our Lady of Salvation church to the article. It's the only photo of the church we had in the Commons, I think. Better than nothing I guess. --Kenatipo ^speak! 02:33, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

That looks great, Lihaas, thank you! --Kenatipo ^speak! 03:15, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Lihaas, I had to remove the photo. Kelly, who knows about these things, says it may be lacking the proper permissions! --Kenatipo ^speak! 14:23, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit comment

let's not use vandalism/sabateur in edit comments. if there's an offense, an/i is the place. i think it's past though. Ocaasi (talk) 22:36, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

oh, definitely shouldn't have been deleted. but prosecutions in edit comments rarely help. back to the page. discussion is coming along. difficult choice. Ocaasi (talk) 22:40, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:2010–2011 pro-democracy protests

Hi, can you clarify which title you want restored? (2010–2011 Arab world protests or 2010–2011 Middle East and North Africa protests) Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 23:57, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

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Nomination of Europeada 2008 for deletion

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Process for it's own sake

Process simply for the sake of process is not something that should be encouraged. I'm pretty disappointed that you feel we must go through a requested move procedure for something that isn't really controversial, but if you insist... Talk:2011 Libyan protests#Requested move :)
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"Anonymous"

You're reverting to re-add the self-serving statement of a relatively minor online forum group trying to glom onto what's happening in Libya for their own publicity? really? I mean, really? Read the paragraph directly above the one that you re-added, please.
— V = IR (Talk • Contribs) 05:10, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

FYI: Washington Post article: "Reports that Gaddafi had fled his country grew to the point that he made a bizarre appearance on state television in the early hours of Tuesday." The point being that there comes a point where staunch neutrality becomes a slanted POV in itself. Careful, lest you become your own critic. We report what the sources state, not our own point of view, which is what "POV" and "NPOV" are actually supposed to be about.
— V = IR (Talk • Contribs) 05:29, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Advice

hi Lihaas,

Listen, I think that I agree with your politics/ideology/thinking more then may be apparent. I seem to share (many of) your interests, so I don't wish to silence you, or anything like that.

The problem, that I'm personally seeing, is that your thoughts appear to be disjointed and... well, it just seems as though you're in a big hurry. believe me, I understand how you seem to feel. There's all this stuff that's just wrong, correct? I want to help you, and be your friend even. I just need some cooperation from you is all.

I can tell, by "reading between the lines", that you're an intelligent person. All that I ask is that you preview your edits, even (especially) those edits to talk pages, for grammatical errors and typos, before submitting them. I think that you're a good editor; a compatriot, even. The problem that I see is that your explanations, currently, seem to be... wikit:disjointed.

I gather from other posts that you're not a native English language speaker? is this accurate? That could explain quite a bit. I'll readily admit that I can't speak any other languages. I do, however, value the input and knowledge of those who are not English speakers. I have a history of reaching out and attempting to understand those who are not native English speakers (mostly off-sight...), which is something that I admit that I take some pride in. I wish to see you as a consistent, long-term, contributor here, regardless of how many or how few articles which you seek to contribute to. If I can help, please let me know.
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Kosovo presidential Election

The President of Kosovo is just the head of State, different to US, France etc. The Prime Minister is the one with all the power. There wasn't a Presidential Election as such, it was the Kosovo Assembly members voted on whether he should be President or not after a Coalition agreement, which passed in the third round. I suppose we could create an article regarding the Assembly Vote. There already exists the December 2010 election article, "Kosovan parliamentary election, 2010". We could maybe expand this article? Regards IJA (talk) 13:27, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Western Sahara (Revisited) on Talk page of 2010–2011 Middle East and North Africa protests

Hi, can you please take a look at the talk page of the article 2010–2011 Middle East and North Africa protests in the section "Western Sahara (Revisited)" and leave your opinion? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TL565 (talk • contribs) 20:03, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

ITN: Godhra train burning

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Irish Election infobox

What is it with you an putting Irish names and words in inverted commas? That little action of yours messed up the infobox. Exiledone (talk) 01:41, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

no bother. Exiledone (talk) 02:22, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Timeline of the 2011 Egyptian protests (spilt)

The article size is 150 K, it takes forever to load (Keep in mind the my internet is pretty fast and my PC can handle a lot); and there is consensus so its not a problem. you wont face the Tunisia problem if you nominate it for GA because its NOT an ongoing event. if you finish cleaning it today, put it for peer view to get some feed back if there are some errors that we have not noticed. I will help you if you want. and Once we get it to GA, FA will be pretty easy. PS: the elections (Presidential and Parliamentary) are in September. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 08:36, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

wikipedia doesnt quopte probability ???

here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010%E2%80%932011_Middle_East_and_North_Africa_protests#Oman you deleted some info saying that wikipedia doesnt quopte probability however, It doesn't make sense ,,there are proper and reliable sources

the information has been mentioned again ShenmueIII (talk) 21:25, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

ITN

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Incorrectly describing other editor's contributions as vandalism

It was not appropriate to describe this edit as vandalism. You need to assume good faith when refering to other's contributions, even when you disagree with them. You might wish to read Wikipedia:Vandalism, in particular the first two paragraphs. --Pontificalibus (talk) 16:31, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

2010 Copiapó mining accident

I took the plunge and nominated it for GA this evening. We'll see how it goes. --Veriss (talk) 03:56, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

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rename proposal Veriss (talk) 05:20, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

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haven't seen your response to my question on EL concerns. Your feedback is desired. Veriss (talk) 18:52, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

MENA Protests

I dont think the GCS or Iran have any rights to get involved in Bahrain. They are trying to turn this into Shia-Sunni fight witch its not. It will kill the revolution if it becomes that. It will turn it into a civil war with no clear outcome. Saudi Arabia and Iran have been fighting a cold war since the 80s in Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen, Bahrain and Palestine. Both of them are fucked in their heads (Sectarianism at its best). They are also using Bahrain as a distraction from what is going on in their countries. BTW, The MB and the rest of the Islamist movement are fucking morons and they will never ever learn from their mistakes. Everyone is Egypt (I am there right now, staying their until the 20th) has pretty much agreed to vote NO on the 19th except those fucking morons. God, they are so fucking dumb. As soon as they think they can take over the country, they show their real faces. Also Salafis, NDP and our State security have been working together since the 24th of Jan. to try 2 under-mind the revolution and now they are trying to raise sectarian problems to show that the country is not stable without Mubarak. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 11:16, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Please read: Lebanese protest against sectarian political system. the second paragraph reads: Emulating protests that have spread across the Arab world in recent weeks.-- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 19:12, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Europedea

Done, although judging by its content, I fully agree with the AfD outcome - it seems to be totally non-notable. Number 57 12:11, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Flattery will get you nowhere! Number 57 14:08, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

2011 Egyptian constitutional referendum

We are having a huge protests 2morrow in Tahrir (MB is NOT joining us of course) against holding the referendum and demanding a new constitution NOW. I going to be in Tahrir for the next 3 days so my laptop might run ouuta of battery and its bitch trying to recharge it so can you do me a favor and expand the article. I am going to try to help as much as I can but I am sure if I can get it in good shape for ITN while in Tahrir. Can you help? -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 07:43, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

PS: If Shia in any of MENA countries do anything against the GCC, the Bahraini, Yemeni, Iraqi, Kuwaiti and Lebanese protest are pretty much dead. It becomes a sectarian and the Arabia and aljazeera are going to hammed that point. They are cool is protests as long as it stays out the GCC -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 07:43, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Shit was/is crazy right now in Egypt. Almost beat up 3 members of the Muslim Botherhood and 2 Salafis on thursday only. They have been harassing the shit outta anyone who dares disagree with me and talk to ppl about voting No. I talking to some friends about why i am going to vote no and they almost jumped me. they attacked ElBaradei (with the help of some NDP thugs) today and he couldnt vote. Hopefully, ppl voted no today. The polls I have visited today and was watching mostly voted no but again, I live in Cairo so I dont know about the rest of the country. My grandfather voted today for the first time since 52 :'( (It was so emotional for him). Overall it was good for ppl to go out and vote (many for the first time in their lives). -- 00:13, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

I honestly cant really tell right now. It will be more clear after the result of the referendum comes out. If its No, it will be smooth sealing from that point. If its yes, things go so many different ways. I will able to have a better view after the result comes out. Then I shall give you a better perspective on things like the one I gave you about the army before. I am going to need your help on the article tho if you can. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 08:44, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Again, I honestly cant really tell. ppl voted yes for many reasons. Th next Parliamentary election will tell. We have to wait and see, can you help with the article? I just finished the Results by Governorates and gonna work a bit on the map. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 07:16, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Need your support here -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 09:24, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

The same source used in the article. you can change the name as you see fit. brb. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 13:46, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I was lost there for a minute. OK so I pretty much had to read every news article about the topic, then discuss it with people from both camps (Yes and No) to come up with the graph. I am sure I can find at least one source now to back the process. We call even write about it in the article. Let me find them and I will give them to you and you can start writing the section. cool? -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 14:11, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Done

I tried to fix the page outline of the page as much as I can. Y'all have a problem with the "Opposition factions" section tho, some of it should go under "Domestic Responses" while the rest fits more as an "Analysis". People in Yemen dont know many of this parties to its more Aljazeera take on it. BTW, Aljazeera and AlArabiya were unbiased when it was about Egypt, shit have changed since then so tried avoiding them as sources when talking about in country the might effect Saudi or Qatar [Bahrain (Both), Lebanon (Both), Syria (Qatar), Yemen (Both), Iran (Saudi), Iraq (Saudi), Saudi (Both), and the rest of GCC counties (Both)]. Unless you are going to somehow present the other side of the argument. Shit is fucked up as usual in the MENA. I have reading reuters, AP, BBC, AFP, NYT and the washington post. I know you might think that the washington post and NYT are liberal but they honestly stick to the facts (for the most part). -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 05:23, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Well this explains A LOT. Didn't realize you had taken over from Jimmy Wales and are now running Wikipedia as your own private propaganda machine. This is your idea of being 'respectful'? Deciding what news sources are and aren't 'approved'? Flatterworld (talk) 15:01, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

I think he's saying that in his opinion Aljazeera is not as unbiased when it involves countries that are more closely aligned with the traditional Arab world (Egypt was kind of an outlier amongst the stalwarts, having a secular military dictator rather than Islamic). There's nothing untoward about recommending the Washington Post and NYT. They're as mainstream as it gets, and an insider's opinion that for some things they are more neutral than AJ or AA is not criminal. We should use all of those sources, and describe the differences if they have major disagreements. Any individual issues can be taken to WP:RSN or WP:NPOVN. Flatterworld, please don't think that every discussion like this is a conspiracy. Egyptian Liberal and Lihaas, it would be better to talk shop on the article pages so it doesn't seem suspicious. Private political discussions are cool in userspace, but opinions about sources, etc. should be seen by editors at the topical article. Ocaasi ^c 22:39, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Walter Cronkite

RE: this edit I made a few mistakes creating the category page "United Press International reporters", and I think I need the category commented out for now on Cronkite's page because having some pages list the category in red somehow prevents creating the actual category page itself. If you know of a better way I can do this, please let me know. Thanks! KeptSouth (talk) 15:36, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, my mistake - I think I need to wear reading glasses. KeptSouth (talk) 17:07, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

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References

Please stop adding citations to dates. The lists of people are constantly changing, so each person needs his/her own reference(s). Flatterworld (talk) 18:41, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

The Guardian, Al Jazeera and others aren't reporting the same resignations, which is why it's important to reference each one separately. Some conflicts have been showing up, as well as names being added which weren't referenced at all. As time goes by, the 'live blog' refs can be replaced with articles providing more background information about the people resigning. Flatterworld (talk) 20:16, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Forget it. After reading your other discussions with The Egyptian Liberal, you obviously have a different agenda than providing straightforward information as in an encyclopedia. Which is why both of you are being reported. I'm totally shocked and appalled.Flatterworld (talk) 15:07, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

2011 Omani protests

Hi may I ask why the heck did you restore the article 2011 Omani protests ?? It was fully organized and supported by reliable sources . 188.135.79.131 (talk) 02:00, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

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Iceland

Better, yes; it's clearer,now than it was. Though I'm still confused; I thought the Iceland Guarantee Fund owed money to the UK and the Netherlands because their Guarantee Funds had had to re-imburse investors at home for losses. I'll keep reading...Moonraker12 (talk) 14:15, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Or they could try slapping them with a wet fish (comme ca)

Asking the people “Well, do you want to pay the Brits £9 billion, or not bother”; what other answer were they expecting? I’m surprised even 40% said yes!

Anyway, thanks taking the trouble to reply :) Moonraker12 (talk) 12:50, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Currency War

Think we are 99% there now, just maybe a bit more copy editing to do. Some sections could still be massively improved, there is so much to say on the subject, but I think most reasonable GA reviewers would agree its now well above the GA standard. Hope you dont mind me removing one of the maps and adding some different images for a bit of variety. If you want me to pitch in with fielding any questions / requests for improvements the GA reviewer had, it might be best to nominate some time this week, as Im exspecting to have much less Wiki time for the rest of the year after May. But whatever you decide is cool with me. FeydHuxtable (talk) 14:36, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

I would say it is now ready for nomination! FeydHuxtable (talk) 12:08, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Great shout about the Mantega pic. We should go for GA level before trying FA. You might want to check the article against Wikipedia:Good article criteria , though IMO it already passes. Of course there's no guarantees with GA or FA, some reviewers have very high standards or may not agree our coverage is neutral. But I think we have at least an 80% chance of passing at Good Article level without too much more work. Once youre ready to put it up for nomination, I think you just need to add {{subst:GAN|subtopic=Economics and business}} at the top of the article's talk page. FeydHuxtable (talk) 16:36, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I reduced the Mantega pic a bit and added a couple of others. I think we're fine on #6 as all the pics are free images ,all are relevant, with the captions briefly presenting key aspects of the topic. No probs if you want to add one of the maps back and / or remove / change any of the images I added. But personally I think one map is sufficient - for those who like to see quantitative geo data the OECD Data visualization presents it far far better than we can. (Its brilliant for understanding all sorts of macro trends, please check it out if you haven't already). I don't know what you mean about #3. I think we're striking the right balance between broad addressing all the key elements while remaining focussed. In what way do you think we're lagging. Granted the article is far from perfect, if we get a hyper critical reviewer they could well fail it or demand an unrealistic amount of improvements. But we'll never be looking at a dead cert with this topic, its too huge and complex. I still think the article's better than most GAs and is ready for nomination, but whatever you decide. FeydHuxtable (talk) 14:54, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Hosni Mubarak and his kids arrested

Check out the ITN section :D -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 09:45, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Hey girl, How are you? Hope all is well with you. I was off too for different reasons for few days but I will be back in full force on Sunday I hope. I honestly cant make any sense about the army's roll at the moment. What happened to Michael Nabil was so fucked up and the release of dodgy Islamists reminds me of 1952 revolution when Gamal released some them then they tried to kill him then he declared emergency law. As much I dislike the the army (for many reasons), They are the last standing institution in the country at the moment. If they go (for any reason), its chaos. But like I said before, we need a presidential council to run the country. Back to wikipedia, Yemen article needs updates, Libya article is more confusing than ever and Syria article is fucked (They spilt the timeline with no consensus). Right now I working to the sub article about the Tunisian and Egypt revolutions.

PS: UAE BTW. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 12:14, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

The news is NOT entirely true. Egypt is trying to start a relationship with Iran and the GCC countries dont like it. They are also worried that we are trying to export the revolution to the GCC. Its the usual non-sense between Saudi and Iran. The UAE (or Oman or Qatar) has no part in it. and honestly, the biggest problem facing the Arab uprising right now is the US support to both Saudi (Its becoming very similar to that of Israel). BTW, I am back completely for few days so let me know if you wonna work on something together. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 20:20, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

The poll showed that 51% only support discarding the treaty for many reasons mainly ignorance. Many of them believe that there are secret articles in the treaty. Some also have a sense of shame the we sign the peace treaty before any other Arab country and that we did it with the support of the rest of the arabs but I honestly dont think it will be discarded (Even the most Radical Islamist dont want to go to war with Israel). I think the main reason Israel is pushing the polls is because of the recent Hamas/Fatah deal, the opening of borders back to the pre-2008 chaos, and the fact the we are going to stop seeing gas to Israel. The MB is not going to win a majority in the election (The are running only 35% of the seats in parliament; and they would be lucky if they get 25% of the seats). I think Israel biggest problem is going to be about the the peace process. I dont know how you feel about Obama and democrats :P but I honestly hope they kick ass during this election and add pressure on Israel to sign a peace deal with Syria, Lebanon and Palestine. Me and Ocaasi have been talking about the I-A problem for sometime also :D

Side Note: We need to rename the 2011 Yemeni protests to the 2011 Yemeni uprising and spilt the timeline as well. What do you think? Seeing how its your baby and all -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 15:04, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Sorry I didnt reply to you earlier. I have been busy with life, work and organizing for the Second Revolutionary Wave that's supposed to start this Friday in Egypt against the SCAF. I also had exams so I barely had time to sleep. Will get back to wikipedia once shit slows down a bit. mean while stay safe and keep up the good work :) -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 06:02, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry couldnt reply to you sooner. Life is a bit fucked up (Work, Life, elections, and the revolutions). I have been trying to get the Yemeni and Syrian revolutions to ITN as well as Hosni Mubarak but it seems that some ppl had about enough from talking about MENA :) The election is Turkey will be interesting; cant wait for the results. The GCC might have to change their names now to the MCC (The m stands for monarchy) since they wonna add both Jordan and Morocco; main reason of course is they are worried that more monarchies will disappear from the arab world like what happened after the 1952 revolution in Egypt. Bahrain is back tho :D. The political compass is european; we are trying to create one for the middle east and we are asking them for help so let's hope it works.

As for the MB, boy are they loosing ground every time one of them speak. The MB youth are most likely gonna spilt due to the leadership and interaction with the secular youth. one of their leaders cant seem to shut the fuck up and every time he spoke to correct himself, more ppl get pissed off. It start by him saying the male MB should only marry female MB (VERY FASCIST) and that there is no such thing as a liberal or a lefty muslim and he went on and on about the secular egyptian are homosexuals :D. Its very funny to watch them speak freely.

As for Osama, I have deep hatred towards him even more then I have for the zionists and honest to god, Im fucking glad he is dead. Wish I would have killed myself. The man and his group almost killed me twice.

Now back to our military junta in Egypt, Someone have asked to help with this article and I was wondering if you could offer a helping hand as well. Plz let me know and stay safe. Viva La Revolucion -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 06:55, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

In Egypt, there's a difference between the army and the SCAF. I think the SCAF is using the Islamist (As AbdulNasser, Anwar and Mubarak did) to try to stay in power longer but The Egyptian Left (Which Im part of) are fully aware of it and we got tactics of our own as well. After we write the article, we can delete the user pages, but we need to write the page first :D as for bas it means but :-) -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 07:01, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I would be very helpful if you write the part about "Amr El Beheiry". Here are some sources: [7] [8] and [9] -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 18:50, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Added the arabic name to their articles. Cant wait to see what you are gonna write :D How is you GA Review going? -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 12:03, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

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Pedro Álvares Cabral

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Lists of active separatist movements

Hello. I have reverted your addition of maintenance tags to Lists of active separatist movements. The page is a former list that has been split into smaller lists. It does not need references or notability. Thank you. McLerristarr | Mclay1 11:01, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

(Moved from my talk page) Just because a page is split doesnt mean it doesnt need references or notability. Everythign on wikipedia needs to be citwed (if it was split then the references should be in the original), and there is not inherent notability.(Lihaas (talk) 11:33, 24 April 2011 (UTC)).

No, the references need to be on the page the referenced material is on. Each list has its own references. Lists of active separatist movements has nothing to reference. Also, being just a list of lists, there is nothing that needs to be notable – it doesn't have any encyclopaedic content. There are many lists of lists on Wikipedia. McLerristarr | Mclay1 11:38, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Racism article AFD - please rephrase

Please rephrase your AFD [10] to remove comments that may be taken as personal attacks.

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War in popular culture

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List of Finnish MPs

The MP list is now complete. However, the name of the article should be changed, as this was in fact the 36th election (see the article's talk page). --89.27.103.116 (talk) 19:39, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Yemen Uprising

Hello, please share your thoughts on this rename request: Talk:2011_Yemeni_protests#Uprising.3F --Smart (talk) 08:46, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

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On the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic a recurring issue going back over years is that some editors insist on including Spanish in the info box. This would be fine if Spanish was an official language but it is not: Constitution - Article 4:La langue arabe est la langue nationale officielle.[Trans: The Arab language is the national official language (no Spanish!)]. I am dropping you a note here because you previously edited this article and not many people are bothered with it so perhaps you could participate and help put down these attempts to include inaccurate information...Thanks. 109.76.199.226 (talk) 09:10, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

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Finnish Parliamentary election 2011

Sorry, I am too busy to undertake a peer review at the moment. Marshall46 (talk) 09:23, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Articles

There seems to be some confusion over whether they are State Assemblies or Legislative Assembly. In the case of Bihar, the main article is at Bihar Legislative Assembly, so I have moved the articles to match that. If the phrase "State Assembly" or "Legislative Assembly" is used in the title, it should be capitalised, as it is a proper noun. If only the word "legislative" is used, it should not be capitalised, as it is an adjective. Number 57 22:11, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Removal of comments you disagree with

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, talk pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. This edit in which you commented out supports against your position is inexcusable, and you should know better. Don't do it again. Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 04:27, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

The next time you do that you will be blocked indefinitely. NW (Talk) 17:57, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Algiers Accords

Hello Lihass,

I am writing here regarding the Algiers Accords article.

I initially noticed the "Originally Research" tag, then the text about the provisions having been violated by the Bush and Obama administrations (this was the text when I read the article). I went through the history trying to find whether the person who added the "OR" tag had in mind the violation claims or the rest of the article as well. I noticed that the initial sentence about the violation of the treaty was adding by you in the same edit as the addition of the "OR" and "Unreferenced" tags.

On two separate points:

• I believe that the text about the violation of the provisions is of such a nature (politics, diplomacy, matter of opinion) that it should be removed immediately and completely. If references come up, then it can be added again. I intend to remove this myself after a couple of days, unless discussion has concluded that it should not be removed.
• In case you added the two tags ("OR" and "Unreferenced") having in mind the rest of the article as well (which would be legitimate), I'd like to remark that the rest of the article consists (matter of my own opinion) of three distinct types of text:

1. Background. This concerns the material of the Iran hostage crisis. I think it's carefully and neutrally worded (no one person wrote the background sections in its entirety). Hence, it relies on the references of the main article.
2. A summary of the accord text. My understanding of the "OR" policy suggests that the summary is OK, having as a reference the text of the accords. Accordingly this part is considered referenced.
3. The two chief negotiators/mediators. This is actually not referenced right now. Christopher I wrote myself and I have no recollection what the source was. Abdulkarim Ghuraib was in the "Iran hostage crisis" articles. I will attempt to find references on this.

I intend to add text to the same effect as the above on the article's talk: Talk:Algiers Accords.

Cheers, --Atavi (talk) 19:53, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi again Lihass,

Thanks for your message at my talk page. I have responded in the article's talk, since we are already under way and I think it's better for the discussion to be there from now on.

Cheers, Atavi (talk) 21:46, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Michael P. Fay

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Dalia R-P and the present Labor party in Israel

Greetings, Lihaas! This is just a head's-up that I've replied to your query on the Humanities RD. I'm basically on an extended Wikibreak but since I'd just read a current newspaper article on the Atzma'ut faction I figured I could make the effort to respond to an otherwise neglected query. If you celebrate Israeli independence - Happy Holiday! -- Deborahjay (talk) 09:29, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Further: An interview with Ehud Barak, published in Haaretz that same day. FWIW, Deborahjay (talk) 04:43, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Please stop vandalizing West Bengal state assembly election, 2011

Please stop vandalizing West Bengal state assembly election, 2011. The "dispute" was regarding the name of the article but for apparently no reason at all, you have been reverting constructive edits on the page. You are welcome to add verifiable information but please do not under any circumstance revert the constructive edits made. I see you want to add the Gorkhaland section, and I welcome you to add it, but please stop reverting good faith edits made by fellow Wikipedians. If you revert and edit again and continue to edit war, you will leave me no choice but to report you. Thank You. GaneshBhakt (talk) 09:14, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

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Reply

Thanks for the help in the nomination. I've expanded it about another 1000 or so with response to the takover and the like.Monkeymanman (talk) 18:39, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

yeh i saw that but it was blatent vandalism and the IP has been banned for 24 hours by the admin that removed it. Monkeymanman (talk) 18:47, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

ANI

{{adminhelp}} can someone resolve the issue ASAP b/c the page becomes current in less than 12 hours and will be highly viewed. Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Current event election(Lihaas (talk) 19:25, 12 May 2011 (UTC)).

Which issue, please? DS (talk) 02:32, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

POV edit in West Bengal

Hi, you've removed my changes in West Bengal state assembly election, 2011 citing PoV. First up, no PoV - the only time I voted ever was for the Left in Kerala. Secondly, I was merely rehashing what the cited news articles were saying. Could we bring back some of the factual details? It would better the chances of the story making it into ITN. Chocolate Horlicks (talk) 15:19, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Whoops, didnt see that you had moved some of the content elsewhere - I thought you deleted the whole thing. Also, I still think the decline in seats shows the significance of the results and it is after all a factual statement - I'll leave it to you to decide. Thanks. Chocolate Horlicks (talk) 15:36, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Assam

Sounds good. I am going to be slow the next couple of weeks, updating stuff. But after that I am going to try to update all the indian election pages as I possibly can. Thanks for helping! --Nader85021 (talk) 17:31, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Added the page. Assam. Please help expand or recruit people to expand the article. I posted it on Wikiproject Assam site, so more people will help expand it.--Nader85021 (talk) 06:37, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

September 11

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Edit summaries on Queen Elizabeth II's visit to the Republic of Ireland

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Also, how in the flying fox does the SNP's election have any relevance at all to her visit to IRELAND?! Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 05:25, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

You should know by now after so long on Wikipedia that blogs are not RS. Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 05:53, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Another misleading edit summary. Again, stop it. Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 05:56, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

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Lol?

[11] what was that?--♫Greatorangepumpkin♫T 09:11, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

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No reflink error

It wasn't a reflink error. As i explained in the edit summary it was me removing a duplicate link. if you look at the address of the reference just before the deleted reference they've got identical addresses, cheers Tom B (talk) 11:12, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

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		For your long-running efforts, pragmatic fact-checking and interest towards a multitude of articles, most notably but not limited to, Swedish general election, 2010, Finnish parliamentary election, 2011 and lately Lebanese government of June 2011. --hydrox (talk) 06:16, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

There you go :) You've deserved it for quite long, but now came a good chance to put the credit where the credit is due. Keep on rocking! --hydrox (talk) 06:16, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

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Finnish parliamentary election 2011

Hi, nice to see you have a lot of job with the article. :) Just one thing..."an election"? I mean, I understand when you introduce the subject for the first time, the indefinite article could sound reasonable. But still, "the" sounds certainly better, cf. The United States presidential election of 2008 was the 56th quadrennial presidential election.. -- Frous (talk) 07:54, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Removal?? I rephrased it, and I removed nothing. :O I understand your point in your wording of the first sentence, but could you please read WP:OWN, in return. In my opinion, you have done a great job with that article, but you do NOT own it. So, if I rephrase smth in a way that the edited part doesn't conflict with the rest of the article —like in the case of the first sentence— could you please calm down and think before you revert. Ok, the wording is really not that a big deal — but your attitude is, at some points. -- Frous (talk) 09:42, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

And besides, why did you remove the link to Jyrki Katainen's cabinet? You don't consider the result of the election relevant enough for Seel also? -- Frous (talk) 09:44, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot this from the beginning. overlink on see also, its already in the article + WP:OTHERCAPEXISTS and per BOLD the revert should then be on BRD (see editors talk page) Umm...could you please put that in simple English? I guess you removed the See also link because it's in the article, but what about the end, "per BOLD...??" Sorry I'm still not very familiar with this Wikipedia jargon. -- Frous (talk) 09:53, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I put the first sentence issue up for discussion. -- Frous (talk) 10:29, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

My request got probably lost in the relevant talk page: could you please tell me where I can invite editors to discuss the wording of the article? If personal invites are not accepted or I didn't manage to get enough ppl to discuss. -- Frous (talk) 11:46, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

WP:3O? WP:(some kind of Noticeboard) or smth? -- Frous (talk) 11:52, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

I'll put here an invitation and write a section on the election talk page for all the disputes (first sentence, order of the result sections, grammar of the, placing and wording of the gov formation stuff) Ok? -- Frous (talk) 12:20, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Where can I see, if the article exceeds 100K i.e. I have to summarize and write elsewhere the stuff? -- Frous (talk) 13:23, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

108K right now? G-sus... Ok. But anyway, what I just want to say, don't just delete all I write if you can put it into smaller size... Leave a message or smth, it pisses off quite a lot to see a 1-hour work gone. :) -- Frous (talk) 13:49, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi, could you please specify your view "not true at all" on the use of the. (That was your reply when I said "the incumbent PM [name]" is incorrect 'cos there's no the if the title is followed by a name, cf. The Queen BUT Queen Elizabeth). If there are some exceptions to that rule I suggested, please, I'd like to learn more, and if you have a source, tell that too. Thanks. :) -- Frous (talk) 17:05, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I really don't wanna get into edit wars, so could you please give the specific en.wiki sources to justify the italicizations? You put Eduskunta back in italics and you have reverted the tv station names YLE and MTV3 back to YLE and MTV3 with no explicit explanation for several times, that is clearly not a standard procedure... -- Frous (talk) 06:15, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

If there is any consensus at all for your italicizations, please link me there. -- Frous (talk) 06:19, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I understand your point regarding my major edits, but I seriously doubt if it is necessary to start a discussion on every insanely diminutive change (an election -> the election, 36th or no 36th, MTV3 -> MTV3, etc...). I mean...to start a conversation to get a third opinion on some wording or italicization?? :D Well, I put those up for discussion, knock yourself out...

And, for the millionth time, WHERE is the frigging consensus you keep referring to when you insist on maintaining the wordings or italics? If you don't specifically tell me where those things have been discussed, it will just seem to me that you are so keen on owning the article you don't even allow any minor change (which won't be done, 'cos I believe that 30+ editors give a whole of damn about the content, not some insanities...). WP:NPA, WP:OWN... neither of those very good ways to contribute... -- Frous (talk) 14:32, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

"Consensus"?[12] Where? By far, you have given NO rationale except for referring to that "consensus". You have the burden of proof if you keep saying "this is the consensus", so please could you just simply do your part in contributing civilly and say where that has been discussed? And please, could you justify that format by writing the rationale on the latest section on the talk page. Thank you. -- Frous (talk) 16:11, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

So what you were actually about to say is that because the version (that I'd like to edit) was the original, even insanely minor changes (wordings etc.) can be subjected to discussion if any editor wants so? Right? Ok, if this really is the WP policy or guideline, I was unaware, and common sense is gone out of all Wikipedia and IMO it ain't helping getting new editors... Anyway, gotcha. Let's just discuss then. Sorry for bothering you. -- Frous (talk) 21:36, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for coming back. It would just be nice that you justify all your stances on all those points (e.g., bolding of Eduskunta) I have suggested to be changed, by giving more examples, but of course no hurry, take your time. Otherwise, it is simply unjustified to stop all new edits. Thanks. -- Frous (talk) 21:45, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

G-sus, I'm sorry I forgot this: you reverted this[13] just because of the first sentence? I'm not touching that anymore, but I would like to write the broadcasters' names consistently, into one proposed format that stays there in the interim, so that we then discuss and choose one of them. -- Frous (talk) 21:55, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

How did I attack this time? I simply said that I think the procedure we stick to (that is, a 3O on nearly every insignificant thing, italics, use of the etc.) is stupid — that's about the article, not about you. Even if I sometimes flavor my reasoning with f-words, the f-words point to the reasoning, not to any editor. Point out the "attack" in this message, please, I can't find it. "In other words, you think that we need a 3O to determine whether we can or can't make up abbreviations? Sorry but that's just waste of time, since no rationale for making up an abbreviation has been given. And about academic papers: so f*ing what?? This is Wikipedia, and it has its own guidelines." -- Frous (talk) 21:57, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't know, but at least I've noticed people in Wikipedia use for example "WTF" quite a lot when evaluating someone else's edits and rationale behind the edits. I really don't see the problem with it, as long as the wtf and such are directed at the edit and its rationale (= content), not the editor. If you, on the other hand, find that offensive, well fine, I'll leave that word out. -- Frous (talk) 02:38, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Anna Hazare

Hello Lihaas, Kindly help to edit the biography article of Anna Hazare.- . Shlok _{talk .} 06:07, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

2011 Bahraini uprising

Bahrain sentences 10 activists to life in prison for their role in the uprising (The Guardian) (AlJazeera). This should be ITN, no? -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 15:12, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

I added the bahraini protests to the ITN but the article needs a bit more updating. As for the Human rights in Egypt under the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, I still gonna need your help when you are free. That part about Ganzeer and Amr El Beheiry needs expanding. I might also start an article about Rasha Azab -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 04:32, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Perfect. Then you might wonna update the "Incarcerations" & "Timeline" sections in the article. Once you are done with that; we can work on a lil project that I have in mind "Evil Laugh". I will be free in 30 minutes :D -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 05:43, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Hizb-Allah, Saudi and Iran are all full of shit. They are sectarian fucks and honestly have lil to impact on what's happening on the ground in bahrain or Syria. There has been report about hizbullah going to Syria with Iranian soldiers to kill the protesters there.

As for the Israeli spy, it's a joke. We are not buying it. They caught an Iranian spy like a month and sent him home with no further info :S I spy must be the dumbest spy to have ever lived (Posting photos of himself on facebook in Israeli army uniform (The SCAF claim) and photos of himself in Tahrir). Gamal did the shit after the coup in 1954. Dont believe the hype; same goes for 2012 :D

Once the bahrain thing go through ITN, We can work on getting this through GA :) -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 21:04, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Hey girl, How are you? I need your help updating this article. The section needs expanding. I managed to expand the march section. Gonna work on the april and June section later on today but I need your magic touch in May. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 23:36, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

The MB youth are starting to spilt from the MB and some have started their own party while others are joining already established parties. Next election should be very interesting. As far as my stand on Islamists, Im ok with some of them and cant stand most of them due to their double standing, same goes the american foreign policies. Anyways, I need your help completing this article. You gonna have to do it own your own. I will be a bit busy with timeline article and human right one for the next few days. Also could you please place your opinion here? Thanks :D I owe you -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 07:03, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. I was wondering if you can update the July section with the following info: [14] [15] and [16]. Thanks in advance -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 21:20, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Hey girl, thanks for your help. I dont think tho its gonna be posted in the ITN again but at least the article is up-to-date kinda :-) I think this will be the last I nominate anything about MENA to be in ITN. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 20:04, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

4th time this year, 2nd in less the a week. HINT HINT :D I doubt that it will make to in ITN section tho even tho nothing has been posted for like 20 hrs -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 07:55, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

They are not Islamists; The bombers are from Sinai Bedouins. The Islamists are the SCAF lil boys now (The only group boycotting the sit-in). Few of the Salafi imams and MB members were bitching about what happened last time. The only political group that support the bombing are the leftists. What really freaks Israel, America and The Gulf is a leftist government. Islamist will do business with Israel and America -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 08:29, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Being on the grounds really gives you a different POV than what u would get through the media. Listen, I need your help with something. The April section is missing some info; you find the some of the missing info here so please let me know if you can help me. It would be fantastic if you can do it in the next 24 hrs. Thanks in advance ;-) -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 08:33, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. The MENA sticky will be an issue; all the articles gonna need to be updated but get it a try and see what other ppl will say. If it doesnt fly, The Egypt, Bahrain, Yemen and Jordan should be nominated individually. As for the reflinks, as I use this link -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 11:14, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

All I do when I wonaa use Reflinks is go Here and type the name of the article I wonna use Reflinks on. I told you some ppl would be against the MENA sticky but you have 4 support VS. 2 Oppose so you might get it posted after all :D Hope all is well with you -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 11:10, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Hey there, The Reflinks still needs so tweaking up. I got sometimes similar erroe so I end up doing it over and over until it works. As for the DYK, seeing how I did the Reflinks it will not count. It happened during the DYK for Kamal Abbas so sorry involved editor :S I barely uses facebook anymore, Im on twitter for the most part. If you an account there, let me know :-) I hope we managed to keep the sticky until this friday at least. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 11:48, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Found few images that you might be interested in uploading on commons [17]. Let me know if you are interested -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 13:14, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Ahdaf Suief; Laila Suief; Essam Saadany of Khaled Said's Defence team; Malek Adly; Shahira Abouleil; Ahmed Ragheb; Magda Adly; Essam El Khatib; Aida Seif El Dawla -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 13:58, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

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summary

honestly, i dont know i must write summary when i undo edits. because i see many edits of undo is just a sentence said "undid someone's edit" i think that is summary. sorry about that--Coekon (talk) 09:49, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

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Tehran International Conference on Disarmament and Non-Proliferation, 2010

So writing a link named "resistance movement" that subsequently leads to Hezbollah is neutral? I concur that it is not neutral to label them as a terrorist movement. But a resistance movement is an euphemism. How about copying what it says about the Hezbollah on wiki, a militant group and political party? I definitely think the link named resistance movement should be disentangled. We don't even need to mention the paramilitary wing, nor the Syrian-Iranian financing or their resistance to the disarmament agreement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lhoaxt (talk • contribs) 23:56, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Thai election

Hello Lihaas,

could you please answer my question on Talk:Thai general election, 2011? Thank you. Kind regards -- RJFF (talk) 18:53, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Dates

Ah ok. Sorry, please feel free to revert then. --Skamecrazy123 (talk) 11:00, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Lock and Load!

Hey there. Yep Id say for the most part the article is now well above GA standard, so you could nom at anytime. FeydHuxtable (talk) 08:30, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Soz but Im unlikely to have time to do a GA review this week. It may be best just to be patient as reciprocal reviewing could be seen as an attempt to make it more likely that we get a pass. Ive done 10 GA reviews in the past and this is only the 2nd article that Ive been a major editor thats been nomed so our credit should still be good. Yeah there was 2 more maps but I took two of them off per my comment in the Currency War section above about the OECD visulization being a far better source of Geodata. But if you want to add them back thats fine. Whatever you decide. FeydHuxtable (talk) 09:07, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Could do but it might backfire if one of them sees it as an attempt to be queue jump. The GA backlog still goes back to May.. FeydHuxtable (talk) 07:40, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Looks like our review has started at last over at Talk:Currency war/GA1 :-) I've maybe done enough to satisfy our reviewer, but would you be able to field any further requests? I might have to be away from wiki for a few days. Any changes you want to make are fine with me. FeydHuxtable (talk) 18:05, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Hey, have a few hours to spare so I'll have another go at it unless youre already working on it. Am thinking of moving most of the current outbreak to its own article as you and our reveiwer suggested , then I'll have a final copy edit before making a request to the guild. FeydHuxtable (talk) 15:13, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

main template

He Lihaas, just saw your second revert of use of the main-template at Foreign relations of South Sudan‎ and made a short question regarding it on the [[talk:Talk:Foreign relations of South Sudan‎]]. Could you explain a bit there why you thought it was not useful+pov? Cheers! L.tak (talk) 18:29, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

SRS GA

Hi again. Regarding the GA nom for the Serbian Radical Party (which you have now passed), I took the liberty of making an edit which I hope can be a compromise between the issue we had. While I moved back the section in question to the history section, I instead wrote a more appropriate paragraph of prose in the electoral performance section. Since I am committed to at least try to have good relations with fellow Wikipedians, I would appreciate to hear your opinion on my latest action. Kind regards, – Bellatores (t.) 17:45, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Jan Mohammad Khan

Can you please stop removing valid sourced information as you did here from the page Jan Mohammad Khan because in all articles we include personal info about spouse and children. Thanks.--AlimNaz (talk) 21:22, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Please oversee

Hi, a user AlimNaz is editing wiki articles in an unorganized and in appropriate manner. Many of his edits are erroneous or awry. For example, recently in the article Jan Muhammad Khan his edits were more or less like a news service. I notified this one the talk page but much is to be desired about the rest of his edits. This is evident from the brawling nature on his talk page. Whatever his intentions, Please advise him. I hope something good comes out of this. Dr Pukhtunyar Afghan (talk) 22:47, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Lihaas for your trouble, I hope this helps him realize that wiki is for everyone and wiki has guidelines. I hope this serves a better end. Dr Pukhtunyar Afghan (talk) 21:43, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

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2011 Norway attacks

[26] I had to undo this whole change. You overwrote a heap of previous improvements to the article (including resolving the {{who}} tag.), and this is not even the first time I see you doing this. You should learn how to resolve edit conflicts correctly. --hydrox (talk) 22:01, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

July 2011

Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to 2011 Norway attacks. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. Cerejota (talk) 22:26, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not do on User_Talk:Cerejota. Thank you. Also, I am a regular and you templated me first. So who started it again? Cerejota (talk) 22:33, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

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DYK nomination for Foreign policy of Ollanta Humala

I don't see it listed... hmm. I'll be glad to review tho :) Rcej (Robert) – talk 05:04, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

{{Arab Spring}}

Just to let you know, I have seen the discussion and have moved it to this title. There is no need for a separate debate on the title of the template if there was consensus to move the related article. Cheers, Number 57 20:43, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Foreign policy of Ollanta Humala

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Hi Lihaas, The First WikiConference India is being organized in Mumbai and will take place on 18-20 November 2011. You can see our Official website, the Facebook event and our Scholarship form. But the activities start now with the 100 day long WikiOutreach. As you are part of WikiProject India community we invite you to be there for conference and share your experience. Thank you for your contributions. We look forward to see you at Mumbai on 18-20 November 2011

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I saw that you volunteered to peer review/copyedit articles? It would be nice if you could review Djungarian hamster. Thanks! Puffin ^{Let's talk!} 12:54, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Apparent_personal_attacks

Hi Lihaas!

Please see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Apparent_personal_attacks, which has a discussion of political agendas influencing editing.

Thanks,  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 15:17, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Support for a good man

Dear Lihaas,

I was heartened by your personal advice on my talk page, particularly your voiced concern that I should write more prudently, and also by your repeated words at the cursed ANI.

Given your advice to me, you must be greatly troubled to be writing so much at ITN, I think. Of course, the loss of life is tragic at any time of year, but more on our minds during Ramadan. It is selfish of me to wish, but I do wish that nobody close to you has been harmed directly by these wars.

I do wish that Obama will negotiate a peace treaty and end the Afghanistan war as soon as possible. A political solution should be found in Afghanistan as in other military stalemates, in which each side's methods and conduct threaten to injure the souls of its own men and women, and in which more civilians are killed every day.

Of course, this block is a trifle, which may allow you some well-earned rest and relaxation. I am concerned about you, but I am confident that your fortitude and integrity, which have carried you through many campaigns of writing and sustained you through many attacks, shall help you during what must be a trying time.

Sincerely and fraternally,  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 05:50, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Soapboxing

Several of your comments at this discussion are completely inappropriate per WP:SOAP. ITN/C is not a place to discuss your opinion on any of the news matters that are nominated, whatsoever. Please refrain from opining on nominations in the future. In addition, IMO, I believe one of your comments is disruptive and I urge you to remove it (I've commented on it in the thread) entirely, per the previous mentioned policies. Thanks, Swarm ^{u | t} 20:42, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

WP:FUN doesn't cover opinions that dead soldiers somehow deserved to die. Keep that shit to yourself. Swarm ^{u | t}

August 2011

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours for using Wikipedia, and WP:ITN/C in particular, for soapboxing and POV pushing. You have been previously warned about this and apparently not even redacting your commentsmdash;some of which really were beyond the pale—is not enough. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:40, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Welcome back!  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 14:21, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Congratulations on having your nomination for Currency war achieve Good article status and thanks for your great research and contributions to the article. FeydHuxtable (talk) 16:32, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Merge

Hi, perhaps you could help by merging the other article on the attacks into the 2011 Eilat attacks article. As the 2011 Eilat attacks article is much more detailed. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 13:28, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

August 2011 Gaza Strip air raids

You were wrong to undo my edit. The 2011 southern Israel attacks were against Israeli civilians in the sense that the fire and rockets that were fired - were fired on civilians vehicle only. The soldier that dies was off-duty, on vecation, and riding a public bus. קולנואני (talk) 22:52, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

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CW and FA

Hey, thanks for the barnstar, its much appreaciated!

Short answer – promoting an article to FA isn't easy at the best of times, and Ive a feeling this might be a very challenging topic, is it really worth the time and energy?

Long answer – As I said before Im expecting to only be editing occasionally for about a year so you might need to take a more active role if its to get to FA level. I used to hang round at FA for a bit when I was new to Wikipedia as I used to have aspirations of getting Keynes onto the front page. The standard is very high and its unpredictable what reviewers will ask for. Its maybe possible to write about 10 useful close to GA class articles for the same effort needed for one FA. On the positive side, when I was expanding it I had FA criteria in mind and hopefully in most ways its not too far off. For FA standard it maybe should include a more accademic treatment of the topic. So the first step could be to add an analyses section that talks about the effects of a competitive devaluation in a more formal way. Im thinking of an equation or two showing how GDP and employment can be boosted in terms of the IS-LM-BOP model.

It's a bonus that editor KTLynch has an economics degree and was very positive about the article especially the research. But for FA we'd likely need more evidence of approval from the experts . So probably we ought to ask for a formal or informal peer review with a message to the economics project. They may also have suggestions to improve it. If we get approval from WP:ECON (which will need a bit of luck, some of the edtitors there are first class, but there seemned to be a few with "interesting" POVs the last time I looked) then its just a question of presentation, maybe creating a couple of suitable quantitative graphics, and quality of prose. We could probably find someone to help with prose quality, but should definitely try to get the thumps up from the econ guys first. FeydHuxtable (talk) 17:19, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Adopt-an-Article

Thanks Lihaas , for the interest in Adopt-an-article. Can you please help with new ideas to promote Adopt-an-article event ? --naveenpf (talk) 02:59, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

RE: Urgent Q.

It depends who you ask, Sunni Islamists fully support the "Sunni Monarchy" for sectarian reasons while Shia Islamists fully support the "Shia Protesters" for sectarian reasons. On the other hand, The secular youth (like myself) support the protesters as "freedom fighters" (4 lack of a better term). The opposite applies to Syria when it comes to the Islamists of course for the same sectarian reasons, while the secular youth believe that the protesters there are freedom fighters as well. I told you Islamists are fucked in the head before.

As for User: Arabbi, dude seems to go away for a long period of time and then come back so I wont freak out just yet. Anyway, How are you? still raising hell I hope. Let me know if you need anything else :-) -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 05:58, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Warren Weinstein

I recently created an article on the Kidnapping of Warren Weinstein. If you are familiar with the topic, I invite you to add information. Cheers, Mar4d (talk) 03:05, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Mother India

I don't understand what you did here. You seem like a very experienced wikipedian. Surely you must know that sources are not required in lead if the same info is cited elsewhere in the article. Also, you can't just take away the GA rating like that. There is a process. What's up? BollyJeff || talk 00:41, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

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Ali Jawad al-Sheikh

I was wondering you would be interested in writing about this article? He is a 14 year old boy that died last night during the Bahrain protests. Here is a picture of his corpse. Thought you would be interested seeing how you have been covering the Bahraini protest for a while now. I think Bahrain just had their Khaled Said moment. Hope he didnt die in vain -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 15:34, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

POV tag for International Military Tribunal for the Far East

Hi - you tagged this article as having POV issues just over a week ago, but you didn't say anything on the talkpage, and put an enigmatic "who were the defending lawyers" comment in the tag. What is actually the problem?VsevolodKrolikov (talk) 01:59, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ministry of Development and Social Inclusion (Peru)

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Good Article promotion

Congratulations!

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List of American gentlemen's clubs

Your attention is called to a requested change in name of the above article. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 22:20, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

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RE: Arabic translation

Hey girl, glad you are ok. was kinda worried cuz I didnt her from you for awhile. Anyways, How soon do you need it? Cuz I have burned 2 fingers (right hand, long story) so I cant type nor use the mouse like a normal person for few days. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 07:48, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

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September 2011

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RE: Arab Summer/Fall stuff

Of course I know about the unions, My friend Hossam el-Hamalawy helped start most of them :D I wonna add it somewhere but I have no idea where tho so let me know if you think of a place.

The Gas line bombing is the 5th so far. It's done by bedouins. The Islamists in Egypt are nothing more than a toy in the hand of the SCAF. They even came against the bombing, the israeli embassy thing, and for Camp David. Islamists have being using Israel as a talking point, but when comes to action, they are not gonna take any. All they care about is the Egyptian parliamentary election. The idea the Islamists will goto war with Israel if they take power is only a western/israeli nightmare but in reality, they are only concern with forcing Sharia law onto society. google "إسلامية إسلامية", that's their answer to every question eve asked.

The 4th place could go to any country (Yemen although Saudi did send tanks their to support Saleh like they did in Bahrain, Bahrain but they do have to deal with the Saudi occupation, Syria but the regime there is really brutal as bad as Qaddafi so the NATO/UN might get involved)

The bahrain article needs updating, I think Bahraini Activist is looking for someone to show him the robs and he wants to right about what's happening there so I thought you could help him and he helps us by keeping the article up-to-date . I got more Egyptian activists to draw/talk/blog about Bahrain by the way like Ahmad Nady.

BTW, This word spring is more about the event then the time. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 09:26, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Sixty-sixth session of the United Nations General Assembly

Orlady (talk) 12:03, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Pointless tagging

I implore you to stop tagging articles with things like "more citations needed", "citation needed" and "why?". Many of the articles you tag with the first have an adequate number of references. Some of the things you tag as "citation needed" are things that are so obvious that it doesn't need citing - e.g. this edit. If it bothers you that much, reference it yourself, otherwise you are making pointless work for other people. It took me less than 30 seconds to find and add a reference for that obvious fact. Number 57 09:50, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

I see that despite my request, you are still tagging material that you can easily reference - e.g. the election results date here. Again, it took me about 30 seconds to provide a reference. I really don't understand why you cannot do this for yourself? Number 57 09:40, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Review some articles

Hello Lihaas,

Since you are more experienced than me in Wikipedia, can you review those articles which were created or greatly expanded by me?

• Nabeel Rajab
• Maryam Alkhawaja
• Abdulhadi Alkhawaja
• Mohammed Albuflasa
• Ayat Al-Qurmezi

Take your time, thanks. Bahraini Activist (talk) 06:31, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

RE: Good or bad news?

It rather made up really :D The Feb17 Mililta is the strongest and the most secular among the rebels so TLC cant go against their wishes. Libya will be a civil state (American style secularism) so those news are made to scare the west really.

And Libya will stay united. I was there and I know what Im talking about, Dont believe the Hype. Yemen is a bit different, we could have the north/south thing again but I highly doubt it due the nature of the uprising. Wish you could be here to see things more clearly from the ground :- ) -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 13:30, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

ITN

Please explain this edit and this edit. OCNative (talk) 10:01, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

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Uh, could you come back on my talk page and restate what you said? I'm having trouble understanding what you wrote. OCNative (talk) 10:26, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

		The Human Rights Barnstar
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caiyad Phahad

Hi Lihaas. I noticed that you are listed in Category:User ur-3 and can contribute with an advanced level of Urdu. At Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caiyad Phahad, there is a dispute about whether the sources from the Daily Jang are sufficient to establish notability. I argue that they constitute routine coverage and suspect the sources are announcements, possibly submitted to the newspaper by the subject or his family members. Would you take a look at the sources and comment about (i) whether they are announcements or news coverage and (ii) whether they establish notability per Wikipedia:Notability? Thank you for any help you can provide. Best, Cunard (talk) 10:53, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Tawakel Karman

Hi Lihaas, good catch on the name!!! I was able to find few cites to verify the "also known as". Can you give me a bit more info on the disputed templates you put down? I would like to verify some of this. Problem is this breaking news and the editing is on the fly. The first draft I came across had a lot of info that needed shortened. I really appreciate the extra set of eyes. Thanks Crtew (talk) 20:35, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, thanks, and I like your work here too! Why were the numbers of the references coming out incorrectly or out of order on their reuse? The other point is that you're suggesting not to use Lexis-Nexis but the Web archives? Thanks for the interaction because I was understanding the discuss notes about references on the discussion page Crtew (talk) 20:53, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Ahha! So that's what those a,b,c's are for. I was wondering about that but didn't know for sure. Thanks for the wiki culture tips, too, and the interaction which has been informative. I appreciate this as I get used to the editing process. Crtew (talk) 21:22, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, from the | Oman Daily Observer article. I'll try to do the ref name now.Crtew (talk) 21:33, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

That same article is used to source her father's name and so her full name is also verified per Arab naming custom! Would that be enough to remove the dispute?Crtew (talk) 21:36, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

What do you think about the notability being buried? See the talk page on Karman. Crtew (talk) 22:01, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Lihaas, it was a privilege working with you today on improving and bringing Tawakel Karman's entry up to par! Thank you for giving me tips along the way and being patient with a newbie. I don't know about you, but I don't think her entry rates as a "C" anymore in assessment. We raised that bar higher today while 20k+ were visiting! Rest well my friend tomorrow is another day!!! Best, Crtew Crtew (talk) 05:32, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Lihass, I'm trying to figure out some of the changes you made to my last edits. Could you help me out with the explanation? I'm ok with some of the changes, like the Freedom or Change Square being almost interchangeable in references. Two in particular though interest me: 1) the context behind what was going on between the start of Arab Spring and the time when she won the Nobel in terms of protests and dangers to the press. 2) The other being the transition sentence in the lead that shows her broadening out her issues of interest before Arab Spring. I think readers would want to know some of this or it's needed to complete the idea and not give a false picture. What do you think? What about adding a map of Yemen? Two other cities have seen more anti-government activity than the Sana'a.Crtew (talk) 16:34, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Your attention

Hi Lihaas!

Please see my talk page. Best regards,  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 21:15, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

EFSF

Hi, FYI EFSF stands for European Financial Stability Facility, not European Financial Stability Fund as you moved it to. It just so happens there are a lot of lazy and ill informed journalists out there who can't tell the difference between the various structures and acronyms. In future, please check the official websites before moving pages. Thanks.- _J.Logan`^t: 08:05, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Frank Stanton

While I agree that the article should not contain a list of miscellaneous data, the heading still reads "Death and legacy", but only lists his date of death now. When we remove the "and legacy" from the headline the article suggests that there is no legacy of Frank Stanton. I'd at least keep the "Stanton Foundation" part. -- 194.246.123.103 (talk) 11:26, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

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Sixty-sixth session of the United Nations General Assembly

You were given an opportunity to correct the material, and it was removed when you did not. Do not restore this material again without correction. I am not an editor on this article; this is not a content dispute. I am an uninvolved administrator taking action on a listing on the copyright problems board. You were told that content you placed in this article violates core policies: WP:NFC and WP:BLP among them. You may not misattribute quotations or place quotations in articles without providing sources immediately following them. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 10:11, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

The difference between indirect speech and direct speech

Based on your note at the talk page of this article, it is clear that you do not understand what is meant by "misattributed quotation."

Direct speech is when we literally and precisely duplicated what somebody said:

He said, "I feel fine today."

Indirect speech is when we paraphrase.

He said he felt fine today.

If we encounter the latter in a source, we can't report it as the former. We cannot write:

He said, "he felt fine today."

In fact, he didn't. That is a fair representation of what he meant, but not the words he used. We know it's a fair representation of what he meant, because he know what his quote was. We cannot always be sure that indirect speech accurately represents the words of the subject. Quotes must be accurate. When we report what somebody else has said that was indirect speech, we need to acknowledge that it is indirect speech and not put it in quotation marks, unless we are saying

According to a General Assembly report, the president said, "he felt fine today."

It is not the man we are quoting; it is the reporter.

In the case of this sentence, for example, you are mixing direct quotation and indirect quotation:

President al-Nasser said that he would propose the theme for the debate as "the role of mediation in the settlement of disputes by peaceful means," in order to enhance cooperation on one of the United Nations' founding ethos that he said also effects the UN's "existence...integrity, legitimacy, survival and effectiveness."

This is what your source says:

He said he had proposed a high-level debate be held at the opening of the sixty-sixth session under the theme of “the role of mediation in the settlement of disputes by peaceful means”, which he believed would deepen cooperation on an issue that was at the heart of the United Nations work. That issue affected the United Nations existence. Indeed, the integrity, legitimacy, survival and effectiveness of the Organization depended on Member States.

You can quote that President al-Nasser said "the role of mediation in the settlement of disputes by peaceful means" because your source indicates that this was direct speech. But you'll notice that this is the only direct speech in that passage. They are not telling you that they are using his exact words anywhere else. For that reason, you can't quote that he said "existence...integrity, legitimacy, survival and effectiveness" because we don't know that he used those words. We know that the author of your source used them to describe al-Nasser's position. We do not know that al-Nasser said those exact words himself, and we can't put them in his mouth. They could be a very close paraphrase or a very relaxed one, but in any event we have to report accurately what our sources say.

Since you are now working on this issue, I will not remove the misattributed again, but you need to go in and fix all of them immediately, or I will remove them again.

I will however, remove this quote:

Basem Elmary, a coordinator for Palestine at the UN Mansour, said that U.S. opposition and comments that the issue should involve direct negotiations with Israel and that a U.S. veto would "not be surprising" were "the blackmail to us."

This is what your source says:

Basem Elmary, coordinator of Palestinians for UN, was with Mansour here on Thursday to represent the Palestinian civil society in Palestine to campaign for the full Palestinian membership at the United Nations. He, while speaking to reporters here, described the U.S. opposition as "the blackmail to us."

"Palestine deserves to have full membership at the Untied Nations," Mansour said. "This campaign has this symbolic gesture of a chair, a set of Palestine to become a full members of the Untied nations."

So, your source talks about Elmary and then begins to quote Mansour. It quotes Mansour in the next paragraph and begins an indirect speech about Obama and an unnamed U.S. State Department spokeswoman:

U.S. President Barack Obama has reiterated the American position that the recognition of the Palestinian state should be made through peace talks with Israel. Earlier, a U.S. State Department spokeswoman said that an American veto against the vote at the Security Council should not be surprising.

Elmary's name is not mentioned again. The person who said "that an American veto against the vote at the Security Council should not be surprising" is, clearly, an unnamed U.S. State Department spokeswoman. Per WP:NFC and WP:BLP, you cannot say that Elmary said something a US State Department spokesman said. That, and anything else like it, that you have restored, I will remove. You must not misattribute quotations in this way. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 10:22, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

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Kiefer.Wolfowitz

Hi Lihaas. I don't know if you've noticed WP:Requests for comment/Kiefer.Wolfowitz, but things have recently taken a downhill turn, and there is now some worry that KW may retire over comments regarding your userpage and by implication you. I was wondering if you might consider reviewing the situation and commenting, especially at User talk:Kiefer.Wolfowitz. I know I, for one, would rather this wasn't how this ended. Thanks. Worm^TT · (talk) 19:06, 20 October 2011 (UTC) 0

Hi Lihaas,

You were smeared as a "national socialist". User:Geometry guy and I noted that you have huge numbers of contradictory user-boxes. Nonetheless, the Nazi smear has been defended at length, with reference to selected other user-boxes, whether their citation makes sense or not (e.g., Scalia/Thomas as libertarians, a position that was denounced as a heresy by the Catholic Church more than 100 years ago).

Sincerely,  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 17:14, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi Lihaas! Luckily, it's not nearly as bad as Kiefer.Wolfowitz suggested. I merely observed that your userpage, at the present time, contains a statement that "This user is a National Socialist". Which, it does.

While I personally don't think that's a fantastic thing to have on one's userpage, my personal view is that editors should be permitted to make such statements on their own userpages if they so wish.

My knowledge of the teachings of the Catholic Church is far from encyclopedic, so I'll not comment on Scalia and Thomas, but I remain very aware that a self-professed expert on those teachings suggested that "Catholicism for Dummies" was a good grounding. That person has since been discredited, but it's a reminder that not all self-professed experts are best taken at face value. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:11, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

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Tunisian Constituent Assembly election, 2011

Hello Lihaas,

The statement "The second party is PDP..." has been removed and you have reverted it two or three times. My explanation was in the edit summary "PDP is obviously not second", you replied "this was discussed before! the section is BEFORE the election" I cannot see when this was discussed before. I understand your idea that the section was before the election. But now, it is after the election and keeping the view from beforehand (merely based on opinion polls, not on the last election!) does not make any sense. User:Rif Winfield has explicitly explained his edit on the talk page ([27]) Still you claim it was unexplained and accuse him/her of vandalism! You might like to be a bit more careful with accusations like this. I hope that you can accept a different view (that has been explicitly explained to you and everyone) and you will not engage in an edit war about such a trife. Kind regards and keep having fun working on our common project! --RJFF (talk) 17:21, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

EIIR Diamond Jubilee

In regards to your contesting of the sourced material in the lead of Diamond Jubilee of Elizabeth II, please see WP:BRD, which places the onus on you, once reverted, to seek a consensus in favour of your desired change. If you wish to do so, you can reinvigorate the discussion about this material that already took place at Talk:Diamond Jubilee of Elizabeth II#Victoria's Diamond Jubilee. Thanks. --Ħ MIESIANIACAL 15:57, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Your name has been mentioned

[28]. It's a shame he wouldn't let it drop - it's probably going to cause problems for you. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 17:07, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Renaming of Results of the Tunisian Constituent Assembly election, 2011

Hi Lihaas. I'd like to point out to you that all other pages of election results use the word results in plural (e.g. here, here, here, here and many others). In fact, I didn't find a single article starting with "Result of the". I understand why you made the change, but I think we should stay consistent with the other articles already here. What do you think? — ABJIKLAM (t · c) 18:55, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

engvar, really?

Really,

Taking the time to change spellings from American English to British English? Both are equally recognized/recognised on Wikipedia®. Just think that is a waste of time, when there are so many actually misspelled words and bad grammar in articles!

Just my comment from the peanut gallery! No argument intended! --UnQuébécois (talk) 01:22, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Referencing

Hi! :) Thanks for your edits to the Greek economy referendum article. However, I have noticed that you have left most of your sources as bare links, which is not the standard way of referencing sources in Wikipedia. To make clear what I mean:

• : Using Template:cite web, <ref name="Skai TV 1">{{cite web |url=http://www.skai.gr/news/politics/article/185135/eua-kaili-den-tha-parasho-psifo-ebistosunis-/ |title=Εύα Καϊλή: Δεν θα παράσχω ψήφο εμπιστοσύνης |trans_title=Eva Kaili: I will not give a vote of confidence |language=Greek |work=[[Skai TV]] |date=3 November 2011 |accessdate=8 November 2011}}</ref> which produces:

"Εύα Καϊλή: Δεν θα παράσχω ψήφο εμπιστοσύνης". Skai TV (in Greek). 3 November 2011. Retrieved 8 November 2011. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |trans_title= ignored (|trans-title= suggested) (help)

• : http://www.skai.gr/news/politics/article/185135/eua-kaili-den-tha-parasho-psifo-ebistosunis-/

Take care and thanks again for your contributions to the article :) --Philly boy92 (talk) 22:26, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Liberian elections

Hi Lihaas. I've partially reverted another edit of yours on the Liberian general election, 2011 page, but I won't revert anymore because I don't want to get into an edit war. I reverted your first edit because you added uncited and grammatically incorrect information that had already been discussed in the page and, in adding the info, you inadvertently removed all of the infoboxes by not closing out your references tag.

With regards to the second revert of your reorganization of the page, I agree that the page isn't perfectly organized at the moment. I've experimented with regrouping the results and all of the info on each election under their respective sections (for instance, putting the presidential election results under the presidential election section and the same for the legislative results), but this left much of the rest of the article's content feeling orphaned. As such, I've kept the chronological order for now. However, your reorganization completely eliminates the election results section and places the results at the beginning of the voting section under no subsection. Placing the election results before the info on the election itself seems counterintuitive and, by eliminating the results section and subsection, makes the page more difficult to navigate through the navigation box at the top.

Additionally, you added a line about the riot yesterday citing an al-Jazeera article saying that four people had died. However, government officials have said that only two people were killed, and the article you cited said that its figure was "according to witnesses at the scene." As such, I've clarified this by adding a new source. Furthermore, if you are going to cite an web article, please use the Template:Cite web format. Just putting a url within a reference tag is not the correct way to cite information and just creates more work for everyone else.

The rest of your changes were constructive and helped improve the article, and so I've left them as they are. If you can think of a way to improve the organization of the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page. I'm sure we can come to a consensus. Thanks, and cheers. —Idaltu (talk) 22:44, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Next Greek election

Could you explain your three efforts at this revert? In particular your changing of seats won in the last election to the incorrect figures? PASOK won 160 seats at the last election, not 152 - and in fact your edit left four of the five parties with the incorrect number of seats. Please be more careful as to what lines you are filling in. Number 57 09:26, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

ITNC

Get your facts straight. This comment is absolute slander. It was a different editor who moved it [29]. And if you do anymore bullshit like this stunt I'll take it as a personal attack and have you reported and hopefully banned. Hot Stop talk-contribs 16:25, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Again, I didn't mark it stale so why don't you troll him. And according to ITN Rules "A [Ready] tag should not be added by the nominator of the item" anyway Hot Stop talk-contribs 21:29, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Blocked

I've blocked you for one week. Given your past block history, as well as the fact that this has been discussed repeatedly, I feel you're not getting the point; even if you feel someone is being unfair to you, personally attacking them again and again is not the answer. Please take this time to read up on the personal attack policy. m.o.p 00:50, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

This is utter bullshit.

You and the other administrators stood by and watched Lihaas get smeared as a "national socialist" and did nothing.

 Kiefer.Wolfowitz 08:13, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Multiple problems. So, now lets focus on just one small part of a solution

Lihaas,

• Drama has occurred
• You've been blocked
• And now Kiefer.W's been blocked
• Drama is still on-going

If I was a little more courageous, I would include all those contradictory political userboxen on my userpage, except one.
Please, please remove the "This user is a National Socialist" userbox, and lets get on with building the encyclopedia.--Shirt58 (talk) 11:39, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

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Here you argue with ENGVAR, while there (neither UK nor US topic) you change "organize" to "organise" in an article that also uses "emphasize". Not very consistent, is it? Regards --RJFF (talk) 11:50, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

That B.E. has to be applied at Finland topics - because it's in Europe - is not part of ENGVAR, but your own rule. There are no "strong ties" to Britain. More important is consistency within one article. Per your edit it's organise vs. emphasize now. Why not just let the whole article in American? There's nothing wrong with it. Kind regards --RJFF (talk) 18:16, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

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I think, you understand the "strong ties" thing completely different from how I do. "Strong ties" of a topic to a nation means: the article is about a town in Britain - use BE, the article is about a person from America - use American, the article is about elections in India - use Indian English, the article is about a company from Australia - use Australian English etc. But not: "The article is about elections in Finland. Finland has strong ties to Britain, because both are in Europe - use BE" If it's a Finland, Poland, Germany, Uzbekistan, Mauritania, wherever people don't speak English, topic, it is up to the first main editor of the article. If he/she starts writing in American, all others should accept it. Kind regards --RJFF (talk) 18:49, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

I am afraid that I cannot follow you. --RJFF (talk) 19:16, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

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Why do you construes my edits as vandalism.--Uishaki (talk) 23:15, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

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Of course it does. Reactions of a great singer are clearly ridiculous. This is not a terrorist attack, this is a death of a person.--♫GoP♫_T^C_{N 09:42, 22 January 2012 (UTC)}

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Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan

I am trying very hard to get this incident on the main page as ITN element. It is very hard to do this when people keep removing the section I am linking to. :( Sorry I am quite frustrated by the constant removals at these articles as same content was quickly removed from Taliban article as well.

It is very bad practice to have list of attacks. I honestly do not care how many people get killed in attacks. I care more about the details. Each attack should be a detailed section or an entirely separate article.

Do we need 6 sources? Yes because each has different detail. I was hoping people who are more knowledgeable on the topic would expand using them.

-- A Certain White Cat ^chi? 22:34, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Please do not talk to me in Wikipolicy-talk. As long as there is adequate amount of secondary sources, any topic can be escalated into a full article. -- A Certain White Cat ^chi? 22:54, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Have you ever heard of commenting? You can comment out citation you find "excessive". We CAN have just a single section, what prompted you to think otherwise? That incident has over 500 sources reporting it and 50 more reporting it again after the release of video. Mind you this is just English sources. Had I had the time I would expand that section all the way into a full article. I do not see anyone nominating such an article where 15 people got executed up for deletion like that. Also please consider archiving your talk page. It has over 200 sections. -- A Certain White Cat ^chi? 23:07, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Kamal Abbas (Cropped)

I was wondering if you could give you opinion on the picture nomination to be a featured picture. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 17:59, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

CAF

Who do you think you are. Don't call me sockpuppet longer. It is you who destroy the 2012 Africa Cup of Nations article.--Uishaki (talk) 18:13, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Manners

You might want to take care when writing your edit summaries, authors of featured articles generally don't take kindly when people call their articles rubbish.XavierGreen (talk) 21:40, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

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Update to article is 2012_European_Men's_Handball_Championship#Final. Additionally, I'd call 3 supports (you neglected to include the nominator) without a hint of opposition after a dozen hours a reasonable consensus. Other ITN items run at the same time, such as the 2012 Australian Open, received fewer !votes of support, even though run for a longer period of time. For my reasons stated at the nomination page, that is why I posted. Spencer^T♦C 23:54, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

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sorry ;)Lihaas (talk) 02:49, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

No worries.  :) —David Levy 02:52, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

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What are you talking about, I haven't said a thing there for so long, I have left that discussion

I am long gone from that discussion. Yes I was frustrated with it and I left, I don't know what you are angry at? That I stated as a matter of fact, from your user page available to public view, that you are a Nazi - a.k.a. National Socialist and addressed to users that you had a specific POV on the issue at hand as you state on your user page that you believe that Kosovo is naturally part of Serbia, and that you have taken strong POVs on other nationalist issues - I thought you would have taken that as a point of fact. Well sorry then. But now that that is done, I should say that I have little to nothing in common with you and I do not want to converse with you any further on the topic at that article about Kosovo or any other topic. I left that discussion, it is over, please stop posting on my talk page.--R-41 (talk) 07:51, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

R-41,

You are violating WP:NPA by speculating about another editor's politics.

You should read before writing. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

Replying to your smear was beneath Lihaas's dignity, quite rightly.

However, you have been notified that repeated smearing of Lihaas will result in your being blocked.

Thanks,  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 21:27, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

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??? Sorry, but i could not figure out where the "personal attacks" was.. --aad_Dira (talk) 05:04, 6 February 2012 (UTC).

On your presumptions label of biasLihaas (talk) 05:52, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Altered speedy deletion rationale: Timeline of the Azawad war

Hello Lihaas. I am just letting you know that I deleted Timeline of the Azawad war, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 13:43, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

So you are conspiring with another user against me. I removed your ridiculous accusation because I have been inactive from that page for months

I have been inactive on that page on Kosovo for months. And I pointed out that you held extreme POV views on Kosovo and other nationalist disputes - you included them in your public profile. And that you consider yourself a fascist and a National Socialist - you posted it on your user page, and people should know that you are a neo-Nazi with an axe to grind on Kosovo - you staunchly support Serbia's claim to Kosovo and hold contentious positions on multiple ethnic nationalist conflict zones in the world. This is the last post I ever want to post on your page. I do not want to be party to a conversation with someone who is a fascist, National Socialist and thus an anti-Semite.--R-41 (talk) 19:28, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

You have been notified that repeated smearing of Lihaas will result in your being blocked.  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 21:28, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

For the record where is the evidence that i take 1 side? Logical fallacy of drawing concusions is clearly indiacated.Lihaas (talk) 05:52, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

I told you not to post on my talk page anymore, I am reporting you for harassment

I told you that I do not want to speak with you on any topic. I do not want to have a conversation with you, a self-described fascist and National Socialist whom I have nothing in common with and have no desire to talk with you about anything. I happen to know Holocaust survivors and their relatives and I have sought to avoid conversation with you on that article and since because I could not carry on a conversation calmly with someone associated with fascism and National Socialism in light of the Holocaust and the horrific stories I have heard from an elderly Polish Jewish man I knew who survived Treblinka as a 12-13 year old boy who worked there as a slave labourer and saw his friend of the same age have is face and body smashed to a bloody pulp dead by Nazi guards because he was a few minutes late for a routine in the camp. I told you to cease commenting on my talk page. Now I am reporting you for harassment. Here is the report, address your case here: [30].--R-41 (talk) 19:54, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

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Lihaas, per this thread at ANI, please don't post on R-41's talk page again. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 20:50, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

• And please remove that National Socialist user box from your page: it's kind of an assholish thing to have on a Wikipedia user page. Drmies (talk) 20:54, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Dear Drmies,

In principal, it is inappropriate to discuss the politics of an editor who has not been POV-pushing, per WP:NPA's ban on unsubstantiated speculations about a user's politics.

That said, maybe "nationalist socialist" would meet Lihaas's goals, of challenging Eurocentric and ahistorical monosemanticism---while saving the rest of us time, and saving me from more blocks....

One can respond politely to threats of blocks and then blocks for complaining about personal attacks alleging "national socialism" or Swedish-Democrats support, particularly from administrators or their familiars, only so long..., particularly when the attacks keep going on, and the same civility policeman are too chickenshit and unprincipled to stand up for Lihaas.

Sincerely,  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 21:14, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Lihaas,

You should know that Drmies is not chickenshit or unprincipled, and has in fact notified the other dude that additional maligning of you will result in blocks.  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 21:20, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Number57 is also a good admin and i told him as much months ago.

For the records, if someone thinks im steadfastly anti-israeli or anti-zionist event then that itself should prove otherwise. Also having been there for a summer i can tell as a society it is libertarian (believe me its not friendly to govt over there, and even anti-americanism in israel should be of note) and im a libertarian. Sure i too have faced racism over there, but in Herzliya Pituach its not the same story as other places ;) (racism is not jew vs. arab. many ashkenazis will also tell you that there IS prevalent sentiment within the broader jewish community so i dont see how its a tarnishing point to mention so)Lihaas (talk) 05:41, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

*Temporarily resisting the temptation to write, "I told you so!"* :D  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 21:02, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

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Could I suggest that a tidy up is in order? I for one am very pleased about the clarification of the so called "Nazi" userbox and would be willing to help out (I've sorted out a few userpages in the past, and even if you don't want anything fancy, I think we can do something). There's no need to lose everything, and if you are willing to use subpages, collapsing templates and so on, I'm sure we can make this work. Worm^TT · (talk) 08:45, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

The updated box seems clearer than my lame "nationalist" suggestion. Thanks,  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 09:18, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Can i get back to it tomorrow or the day after for sure. Im beat right now, just finishing up the Maldives update for ITN now andhead off.Lihaas (talk) 09:22, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Certainly. You know where I am. Worm^TT · (talk) 09:58, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Will do. But any proposals for org methods?

Im thinking to keep the essential links at the bottom, the wikilinks collection under "old" and possibly userboxes, moving "awards" to a sandbox/subpage and moving or even removing the other stuff?Lihaas (talk) 11:18, 7 February 2012 (UTC).

My gut feeling was that awards/dyk should go to a subpage, as should the large amount of text (whilst removing anything you don't need, remember it's available in history). Perhaps a third sub page for userboxen, which could then take up the whole page, rather than a long list down the right. Another option for the userboxen would be to use a method similar to KW, who has organised his and collapsed them, showing different ones depending on their relavence (currently, he has his profession showing, but say in November he had his profession and languages[31]).

Once they are on subpages, you could always transclude them back across - in a collapsed box, which would mean the page would be a lot smaller, but hold the same information. Userpages are designed to help the community get a picture of who you are, and at the moment it's a little too much to be digested! Worm^TT · (talk) 11:32, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Cut more than 1./2 the page...just leaving some links and the bottom essential links for editing. Wol;l sort awards/userboxes later.Lihaas (talk) 02:48, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, that's a significant improvement. If you can sort the userboxen as a priory, I doubt there's anything else worth mentioning at the MfD.Worm^TT · (talk) 12:01, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

• Hardly seen eye-to-eye with you on some things at ITN at the past but this is fairly ridiculous. I've left a comment in support at the MFD. Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 13:36, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Dude

You seriously need to archive this talk page too. Rich Farmbrough, 02:05, 7 February 2012 (UTC).

List of traditional gentlemen's clubs in the United States

Did you look at the second discussion which was closed as move. Vegaswikian (talk) 03:31, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

An apology

Hi Lihaas,

I just wanted to apologise for this SPI investigation - it transpires the user was a sockpuppet, but I'd made a mistake in assuming you were the puppetmaster. I'm sorry. Yunshui 雲‍水 15:13, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Christopher Whall

I have been working hard over the last couple of weeks to produce a worthwhile article on Christopher Whall the Stained Glass artist. I did not think it perfect by any means but have tried to follow what I understand to be the ways of wikipedia.

Your "clean-up" tag was I must say disappointing but "hey ho" that is the way with these things. Trouble is I am not sure what to do next and a few pointers as to how to improve the article would be appreciated.

At the end of the day my purpose in writing this article was to do this artist justice and the article that was on wiki when I started (I think 13th January) for somewhat sparse.

Look forward to your suggestions.

Incidentally I am not sure how to "disambiguate" "Holy Trinity Church". Would appreciate your help.

Please do not think that I am being precious. I have written a few bits and pieces now for wiki and thought that I was getting the hang of things but clearly not.

Thanks

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I'm sorry but there were Several errors, first, advisory is the wrong term - it means consultive (give advice), then, "The result saw [...] write" (should be "right") - bad words in intro, then in the background section there is wrongly use of "though", two times, and writ (again), then the exact percentage is 99.24%, not 99.74% (valid 99.50%, yes 0.26%). Hope you understand, Very good work in politics-related articles btw! --Zoupan (talk) 08:28, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

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Hi Lihaas, I answered in my talk page also, my reference is mnlamov.net http://www.mnlamov.net/documents/113-bureau-executif-du-mouvement-national-de-liberation-de-lazawad-mnla.html I found also that "Bilal Ag Cherif" returns 30,000 results on google... I guess it's the right spelling! Best regards--BabyFoot (talk) 11:45, 21 February 2012 (UTC)