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Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate.
Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready!
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Standard Life Investments suspends trading in its UK property fund, in response to increased withdrawal calls since the vote, to protect the interests of all investors in the fund. (BBC)
Disasters and accidents
Flooding caused by torrential rain in China kills at least 180 people, mostly along the Yangtze river. (BBC)
A Turkish ship carrying humanitarian aid for the Gaza Strip docks at the Israeli port city of Ashdod, the first warming move between the two countries since relations began to improve. Relations between Turkey and Israel were tense since the 2010 Gaza flotilla raid but ended last week when Turkey agreed to normalize ties in a diplomatic treaty. (The Guardian)
Ling Jihua, former top aide to paramount leaderHu Jintao, is sentenced to life in prison for illegally obtaining state secrets and taking over $11 million in bribes. Ling's misfortunes started when he was accused of trying to cover up a scandal connected to his 23-year-old son's deadly crash in a Ferrari in 2012. (UPI)
Zhejiang governor Li Qiang is transferred to neighbouring Jiangsu province to serve as party chief. He is succeeded as Zhejiang governor by Xinjiang deputy party chief Che Jun. (Sina)
Xian Hui is named acting Chairwoman of Ningxia Hui Autonomous Region, succeeding Liu Hui. It is the first time in the history of the People's Republic that a woman has succeeded another woman in a provincial government leadership position. (Sina)
Nominator's comments: not sure where to nominate as itnr/regular//ongoing/RD (?), but the fallout from Brexit is growing and great shakes in UK with Cons/Labour and now UKIP Lihaas (talk) 09:49, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support for ongoing - If this goes anywhere, ongoing would be the most natural place, as it is an item that continuously generates news. Nominating it as a blurb would need a blurb, and there hasn't been any blurb-worthy developments. RD would be poetic (listing the UK as a recently-deceased should Scotland / London / Gibraltar / Northern Ireland secede), but definitely not encyclopedic. Ongoing is the most natural place. A "Aftermath of [UK withdrawal from EU referendum]" article would be best, but the linked one works as well. Banedon (talk) 09:55, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support for ongoing - either as "Brexit" or as "UK EU referendum aftermath". Currently more major GB political parties are leaderless (Conservatives, Greens, UKIP, defacto Labour) than led (Lib Dems, Plaid and SNP), which is an unprecedented level of political turmoil. That said, we currently lack a good aftermath article - United Kingdom European Union membership referendum, 2016#Reactions to the result should be split into its own article (which I will start on now). Smurrayinchester10:28, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Dunno about Corbyn after Manchester/Liveropool/Leeds rallies this weekend. But Con party conference will be earth shattering. After Auxit this weekend, Boris winning (despite chicanery) will shake stuff up.Lihaas (talk) 11:18, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support for ongoing based on the information Smurrayinchester has linked, the Brexit article has four brief bullet points and nothing more, so that's no good. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:00, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Libya's National Oil Corporation agrees to merge with the rival company of the same name in the east of the country after being split by the two rival governments. (Reuters)
Rescue workers in Russia's Irkutsk Oblast discover the remains of an Ilyushin Il-76 cargo plane which went missing last Friday after going on a firefighting mission. Six people have been killed in the crash. (Reuters)
The European Union warns Switzerland that it will lose access to its single market if it goes through with its plan to impose restrictions on the free movement of EU citizens. In a referendum held back on February 9, 2014, Swiss voters approved limiting the movement of economic migrants from the EU in the country. Current laws allow migrants to enter Switzerland without visas. (The Guardian)
Article updated The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Nominator's comments: what do folks think? There is no clear result yet, do people wait a month if there is no clear result. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.12.252.211 (talk • contribs)
I think given that its clear that they are not expecting a completion of the STV counting for weeks, noting that the election ended in such a close result might be appropriate ITN now as well as the declaration of the winner when that happens. --MASEM (t) 23:26, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural comment I have cleaned-up/standardised this nomination. I have made no change to the nomination; all I did was put it into {{ITN Candidate}}. I have no position on the nomination at this time. Yellow Dingo (talk) 02:32, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Wait for the final results, unless we are going to post twice (which seems unlikely). Technically both major parties could still form government in their own right if the seats in doubt go their way. Jenks24 (talk) 09:25, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's comments: Terrorist attack executed by ISIS. Numbers may change as the situation progresses, and as such the blurb can be updated. Lihaas (talk) 10:16, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, no article to evaluate. Lihaas it's one thing if a new user does this, but you should be well aware that we need an article to evaluate. Not sure this merits posting on its own anyway. 331dot (talk) 10:45, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - I think this may be notable but as TRM and 331dot mentioned above we need an article to assess first. Also, did you intend to copy my nomination comment in your nomination, or did you just forget to change it? Andise1 (talk) 13:04, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support on condition of an article being established. In terms of death toll, this attack is more severe than the recent incidents in Bangladesh and Turkey. Midnightblueowl (talk) 14:37, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support - using alternative blurb. The death toll is considerable and the article is in a fairly good state in terms of sources. Spiderone15:46, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Syrian government airstrikes in Damascus kill at least 30 people. According to the rebels, the airstrikes were revenge for the killing of a Syrian Air Force pilot by Al-Nusra Front yesterday. The airstrikes reportedly targeted a medical centre and a school. (The Guardian)
Article needs updating Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Oppose lead and article suggest he only directed one award-winning film in his career. Not notable enough (not "top of his field"). MurielMary (talk) 06:42, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD (when improved) Highly influential director whose career mostly ended because of Heaven's Gate (a film that is now praised among the industry 36 years later). When I saw the announcement of his death last night I thought about nominating it but the lead is terrible and the article reads more like a tribute to Cimino rather than something encyclopedic. It needs a ton of work before reaching the main page. Meinnaples (talk) 14:56, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support RD I do have concerns that his importance is not as significant, but that said, the article is in relatively good shape, the type of content we do like to feature on the front page. --MASEM (t) 16:09, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support RD, once article is brought up to code. The award the "one award-winning film" won was only best Picture ... you know, nothing big. Besides, as noted above, Heaven's Gate and its role in not only bankrupting UA but ending the director-driven "golden age" of 1970s American cinema make him very consequential in film history. Daniel Case (talk) 18:19, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is that Best Picture for the film reflects on all those involved, not the director (for which there is a separate award). Same thing with flops of the magnitude of Heaven's Gate, it's the responsibility of one person. --MASEM (t) 18:22, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No Objection, article received 488 pageviews a day in the 90 days prior to his death, 18,537 yesterday, indicating plenty of reader interest. Abductive (reasoning) 18:26, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose: As much as I like director bios, this one is severely malformed. Over a third of it is in a section called Unrealized projects. WTF? I note this regretfully since I think Year of the Dragon is a truly great film, which I own a copy of. I watch it when I need something stronger than coffee. But having 15 TOC subsections for films he never directed, is ridiculous and potentially misleading to casual readers.--Light show (talk) 21:10, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nevermind, I got rid of most of the junk, the ugly subheaders and tighted the prose up. Once I get a lead going and a few reactions from his contemporaries on his death, the article should be main page worthy. Meinnaples (talk) 22:52, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support, best Director Oscar winner. When Anthony Minghella died, the RD option didn't exist. RD is perfect for someone like Cimino, who doesn't merit a blurb but whose accolades indicate someone who'd worked at the top of their field. yorkshiresky (talk) 09:59, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: American Romanian-born Jewish writer, professor, political activist, Holocaust survivor, and Nobel Laureate. Author of Night. Joshbunk (talk) 19:34, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support although not an American college basketball coach who won nothing, Wiesel was a Nobel Prize winner and the article is close to tip-top. A no-brainer for RD. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:39, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Because it reveals his true purpose. Instead of being useful, his real purpose is to shame people who have different experiences in life than he does. Rather than help build up the hard work of others and help them, he'd rather makes people who have different perspectives on life feel bad about themselves, because he believes only his opinion of what is important is valid, and this he must take every other opportunity to remind people who have lived different lives than he did that their experience if substandard and invalid, and that they must therefore feel inferior to him for it. --Jayron3221:44, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I love you too Jayron. Next time you want to slate me, do it to my face you coward. I look forward to it. P.S. " Instead of being useful..." well up yours. How much have you contributed to Wikipedia's mainspace? Crickets. Chirping. Loudly. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:47, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support on article improvement RD importance is clear. While the bulk of the article is well sourced, several early sections about his younger life lack importance sources, and I caught one or two tense issues in the body. --MASEM (t) 19:58, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) weak oppose on quality Article is not in terrible shape, but there are still four citation needed templates (at least one dating from 2012!) and there is a lot of proseline and just barely not proseline prose in there along with some staccato sentences. I've fixed two tense errors and there may be more. He meets the notability criteria for RD (which shouldn't exist) but the quality isn't quite up to scratch for me - cite or remove the offending sentences, and improve some of the prose a bit and I'll support. Thryduulf (talk) 20:04, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I strongly disagree this is a blurb. While important, impact due to death on the world is not big, and the article is a far-ways away from being of a quality to highlight for a blurb. --MASEM (t) 20:58, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support as an internationally known survivor and author. Possible blurb if desired:
The blurb should be structured like the current ITN blurbs; more like(as an example) "Nobel Laureate and author Elie Wiesel has died". 331dot (talk) 21:06, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD, oppose blurb Clearly important in his field. Not a blurb situation as the impact is not the same as Bowie/Ali/Prince/Thatcher/Mandela. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:13, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I guess for an American definition that's fine. We won't be seeing a blurb here so there's no issue, you continue to argue for it, that's just fine. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:52, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This insolent "weasel" alliteration is abysmal, even worse than our conceited guardian's hubris. Don't take it too far, or you're gonna fall deep. --PanchoS (talk) 00:23, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD on article improvement Based on the Nobel Laureate. Still a lot of uncited text, and I spotted a cite needed tag straight away. That all needs to be rectified before this goes on the front page. Miyagawa (talk) 22:15, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb RD probably the most famous Holocaust survivor ever. His impact to the field on human rights is worthy of a blurb. Meinnaples (talk) 22:39, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thinking about it the quality of the article is really terrible, the only good thing about it is that everything is cited. A "career" section with every trivial public appearance since 2006? Not our best work. Meinnaples (talk) 22:46, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I renamed the "career" section and sourced one of the citation needed. The other two can be sourced easily as well after I did a quick google search on the information, but I don't have the time. A lot of the recentism needs to be trimmed as well. Meinnaples (talk) 23:03, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD, Oppose Blurb. To me, a blurb would only be appropriate if Wikipedia could have an article on the death itself, with secondary sources. Abductive (reasoning) 00:29, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD because wiki-heaven forbid we disrupt ITN blurbs of terrorist attacks with news of a peace activist's death. — Wyliepedia01:37, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support Blurb. I agree that the article could be better, but given the fact that he is such an important figure, I think this should get its own blurb. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 01:52, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb - I am of the opinion that Elie Wiesel is a significant enough figure on his own merits to warrant raising his profile above a RD footnote. Kurtis(talk)05:24, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Posting to RD, for which there is a clear consensus. I don't see a consensus for a blurb but this may change. --Tone09:48, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb,although wiki-heaven forbid we disrupt ITN blurbs of terrorist attacks with news of a peace activist's death. Hugely influential and popular Nobel laureate, his death being today's NY Times top story, alongside the Bangladesh attack. The Bowie blurb was justified, but for quite some people news of the world is more than pop stars, sports and terror attacks. Article has further improved, and is quite decent. --PanchoS (talk) 00:23, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Weak support reading through the "Serving in government" is like an exercise in TLDR torture, but there's little to deny the notability. While article quality is not my cup of tea, there's nothing to really restrict it from being featured at RD. Plus this individual is actually notable, despite being European. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:41, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support when better sourced. As a former prime minister of a major country he clearly meets the RD criteria, however there are explicitly marked unsourced statements (at least one dating from 2007) and other paragraphs that are unsourced or under-referenced. Thryduulf (talk) 20:09, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support on article improvement Still several uncited portions of the article that preclude it from appearing on ITN at the moment. Happy to throw my support in once those have been rectified. Miyagawa (talk) 22:18, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Two time Prime Minister of Trinidad & Tobago who had lengthy involvement in the country's politics before and after those terms too '''tAD''' (talk) 17:36, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support when improved. There is no question that he meets the current criteria (Prime Minister of an internationally recognised parliamentary democracy) but the article needs significantly better sourcing before it is fit for the main page. Thryduulf (talk) 18:09, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support on article improvement If the uncited information was provided with adequate citations, but it can't go on the front page in the current shape. Miyagawa (talk) 22:19, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Patrick Manning's influence on the politics of Trinidad and Tobago has been immense. He easily merits his own RD posting. Kurtis(talk)05:27, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's comments: Please state whether you support blurb or support RD or oppose. Famous comedienne taken at an early age. Referencing needs improvement. Mjroots (talk) 14:58, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It's in doubt for people not from the U.K. She only has three foreign language articles, two of those being Welsh and Irish. --Tocino16:05, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD I don't recognize the name as a USian but it seems reasonable clear she's a highly recognized comedianne in the UK and article is in reasonable shape (a few things that she starred in aren't sourced directly but in blue linked articles). However, this is clearly not blurb material - while "young", given that it was well known she was suffering from cancer doesn't make the death unexpected. --MASEM (t) 16:08, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose with regret. A simply huge figure in modern British comedy acting and writing, but doesn't rise to the second tier of Wikipedia's current notability criteria, regardless of article quality. Shame on Wikipedia. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:40, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose blurb, as she does not rise to the level of Thatcher/Bowie/Prince/Ali. Undecided about RD - I want to support, she was clearly one of the top female British comedians/comedy writers but that is two qualifiers. The "British" I have no problem with, not all comedy exports well and certainly I would not expect Mrs Merton or The Fast Show to do well outside the UK, but is "female comedian" really a different field to "male comedian" these days? I'm not convinced (Victoria Wood didn't need her field segregating by gender, despite much of her comedy being about being female) and so was she at the top level of all British comedians? I'm leaning "no" but that would have to lead to my opposing her for RD which feels wrong. All the more reason to change the criteria. Thryduulf (talk) 17:58, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - sure she is noted. but she is a national noted actress. her work is limited for within the UK. Or is she world famous in the UK? So to speak.BabbaQ (talk) 19:07, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Article has been updated to show accolades. Top item on broadcast news, unlike Gordon Murray (which I nominated) who was barely covered.yorkshiresky (talk) 22:06, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
At least six people are shot and killed and several people wounded by suspected Al-Shabaab militants who ambushed two buses in Mandera, Kenya, near the Somalian border. (Al Jazeera)(AP)
In response to violence in the Hebron area, including the killing yesterday of a 13-year-old Jewish girl asleep in her home in the Kiryat Arba settlement by a Palestinian assailant, the Israel Defense Forces places a closure on Hebron, brings additional troops to the area and announces a cut to tax funds it collects for the Palestinian Authority, saying it would deduct the amount the Palestinian leadership pays to the families of militants. (Al Jazeera)(The Times of Israel)
A 63 year old Palestinian man dies during a clash at the Qalandiya checkpoint; Palestinian sources claim his death was due to tear gas inhalation while Israeli sources say the man suffered a fatal heart attack. (Ma'an)(The Times of Israel)
Rabbi Michael Mark is murdered and his two children badly injured when terrorists shoot at his car on the highway south of Hebron.(The Jerusalem Post)(The Times of Israel)
Palestinian militants fire two rockets into Israel from the Gaza Strip; one explodes outside a preschool in the town of Sderot, causing damage to property but no injuries, and the second rocket exploded in an open area in the Sha'ar Hanegev region. (The Times of Israel)
The European Union extends economic sanctions on Russia until 31 January 2017 over Moscow's continued support for separatist rebels in eastern Ukraine. (Reuters)
Yanghee Lee, the United Nations special human rights envoy to overwhelmingly BuddhistMyanmar, says more than 100,000 of the MuslimRohingya minority remain in squalid camps they were forced to four years ago by violence. The government does not recognize most of these people as citizens, and has treated even long-term residents as illegal immigrants. Lee is encouraged by last March's peaceful transition to a democratically elected and civilian-led government. (AP)
Paris, France, implements a pollution-reduction program that bans residents from driving cars built before 1997, and motorcycles built before 2000, on weekdays inside the city limits between 8 a.m. and 8 p.m. (NPR)
Nominator's comments: Terrorist attack executed by ISIS. Numbers may change as the situation progresses, and as such the blurb can be updated. Andise1 (talk) 23:04, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Obvious support just give it an hour or so to make sure details are stabilized since the situation is ongoin. --MASEM (t) 23:08, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support. A significant event in Bangladesh's recent wave of terrorist/extremist violence. The government has long been refusing the notion that extremism exists the country, but this event has turned that idea upside down. It happened in a diplomatic area with people from various nationalities. World news too. ComputerJA (☎ • ✎) 02:48, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Wait for just a bit longer. This really is a case of confusion and muddled reports right now, the majority of the deaths appear to be the attackers, once the outcome starts to crystallise we can pop this into to ITN imm
Support - Worldwide media coverage. - Mar11 (talk)
Support - Looks like the details have stabilized. The sooner we get something up the better, as it's been a story for quite a while now.--Sunshineisles2 (talk) 13:58, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Suggested rewording of Blurb: As it appears on the front page, this piece states "At least 20 people are killed in a terrorist attack on a bakery in Dhaka, Bangladesh." I would recommend changing "terrorist" to "armed" asap. We use "armed" over "terrorist" in the blurb about the recent Istanbul massacre on the main page, and the term "terrorism" is itself a deeply contested one within scholarship and journalism due to its strong POV overtones. Midnightblueowl (talk) 10:09, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support fascinating stuff yet I'm not sure how "in the news" this is, the nomination lacks a source to back up the fact that this is really a newsworthy and interesting-to-our-readers story. Plus the article is a little weak. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:37, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
There's been a merge discussion open for five months that has barely attracted any attention. They may have a point that this should remain one article, but I don't know enough about it to say. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:59, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose – Given Belarus' comparatively minor economic role (ranks 75th in GDP), re-denomination of its currency doesn't seem of great consequence. Sca (talk) 13:34, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - did we post an ITN item when Zimbabwe replaced its Zimbabwean dollar with the US and other currencies? That was probably the last significant change in currency by a country combating inflation. Both countries are of similar standing though Zimbabwe may be slightly more notable. Gizza(t)(c)02:03, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support You don't get a new national currency everyday. Besides, as a tourist, I like the idea of putting the numbers on the coins in massive fonts and having the larger coins be physically larger! :) However, the sticking point is whether the merge tag would preclude it from appearing on the front page. Miyagawa (talk) 13:10, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
[Posted] Austrian presidential election result annulled
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Nominator's comments: This is unprecedented - individual counts have been annulled twice previously, most recently 1995, but never has the whole second round been required to be rerun. This was a very close race and while there was no evidence of (attempted) manipulation there are more votes that are uncertain than the winning majority. Thryduulf (talk) 11:42, 1 July 2016 (UTC) Thryduulf (talk) 11:42, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support not an everyday occurrence, very shocking. The election itself was covered throughout the world despite the small population, because of the stark difference between the two candidates and the closeness of the result '''tAD''' (talk) 11:52, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Unusual news, but also a necessary correction of the previous ITN item about the Green Party victory that was posted before even all votes were counted. --Bruzaholm (talk) 12:03, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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An Afghan National Security Forces convoy outside Kabul is attacked in a coordinated ambush including suicide bombers and heavy machine guns resulting in over 40 deaths. (BBC)
A 17-year-old Palestinian stabs and kills a sleeping 13-year-old Israeli and American citizen girl Hallel Yaffa Ariel in her bedroom. The assailant is fatally shot by security guards. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu blamed "incitement-driven terrorists" while the U.S. State Department condemned the "outrageous terrorist attack." (AP via Post-Bulletin)(Reuters)(Fox)
The Governor of Puerto Rico authorizes the suspension of payments on the general obligation debt of that commonwealth, assuring a default on the $1.9 billion of debt payments due the following day.
Colombian, Italian, and U.S. police seize 11 tonnes of cocaine smuggled to various countries and arrest 33 people across Colombia and Italy after the discovery of seven laboratories in the Colombian jungle run by local organized criminal groups and 'Ndrangheta. (Reuters)
British home secretary Theresa May enters into the Tory leadership contest, saying that Article 50 of the EU Treaty should not be invoked before the end of this year, implying that formal Brexit negotiations with the EU institutions be put on hold until 2017 at the earliest. (Wall Street Journal)
Former Mayor of LondonBoris Johnson rules himself out of running in the Tory leadership contest, a move believed to be influenced by Michael Gove's announcement earlier in the day to run for the leadership. (BBC)
Bosnia and Herzegovina officially releases its first census report since the end of the Bosnian War after multiple delays, showing that the country had lost one fifth of its population from 4.4 million to 3.5 million between then and 2013. (Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty)
RussianDefense MinisterSergey Shoygu dismisses 50 high-ranking Navy officers, including Baltic Fleet Commander Viktor Kravchuk and Chief of Staff Sergei Popov, following a month-long inspection that found incompetence, deficiencies in training, and misinformation regarding the state of the fleet. (UPI)(Reuters)
Antarctic ozone hole mending
Article:Ozone depletion (talk·history·tag) Blurb: Scientists find that the Antarctic ozone hole is on the mend. (Post) Alternative blurb: Scientists find that the Antarctic ozone hole is smaller and appears later in the year compared to 2000. News source(s):[2][3], Googling "Antarctic ozone hole mend" finds a lot more Credits:
Nominator's comments: Somewhat late for this one, but right now ITN is 3 terrorist attacks and 2 politics - this would be a different topic entirely. Banedon (talk) 03:35, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - While this is based on a newly published report, the trend in the Nature article suggests this has been improving over the last few years, making this either way late or still an ongoing process, neither which is a good point for reporting ITN. --MASEM (t) 03:43, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Regretfully Oppose – If this study was the first of its kind, it would be worth posting. However, a quick look at the article shows that this has been an ongoing process since 2007 when a study revealed that the hole was no longer growing. A report in 2012 showed the hole to be smaller which would be the first definitive sign of healing. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 03:51, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's comments: As CNN notes in article linked above, this "removes one of the last barriers to military service by any individual [in the United States]". Everymorning(talk)02:34, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose There are likely going to be larger battles on the rights of transgendered persons at the national level that far outweigh the ability to serve in the military. This is by far not a significant milestone for ITN. --MASEM (t) 04:39, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose Article section quality seems poor and only addresses this news in one sentence. Otherwise, I may support as I see international coverage of this significant moment for transgenders.SomeoneNamedDerek (talk) 06:24, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose certainly until the tag is removed. If this is just a footnote in some minor interest article, I fail to see how it could possibly be considered as ITN material. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:34, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose According to the article, there are 18 other countries that allow transgender people to serve openly. I don't think this has enough significance to be posted on the Main Page, just like we don't post every time a country legalizes same-sex marriage. EternalNomad (talk) 22:26, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Oppose with regret. While some of the shows are iconic (in my view), he objectively doesn't really rise to the significance expected of the current ITN/RD criteria. It's noted that one of his shows was the "22nd most popular children's television show" isn't all that spectacular and I'm not seeing any awards. Article could use more references as well. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:18, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@The Rambling Man: - that's 22nd out of how many hundreds/thousands of kids progs? Also, TV wasn't awards driven in the 60s and early 70s. Referencing has been improved, although it's not 100% yet. Mjroots (talk) 17:27, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know how many progs. I was simply stating that if he was significant to kids television, the items he was involved with would be more popular than 22nd in the list. Let's see what our American friends think! The Rambling Man (talk) 20:04, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It would have to be remembered that poll was in 2009, at least 30 years after the shows stopped being shown regularly on TV. I suspect they would have been amongst the most popular in years gone by. Laura Jamieson (talk)22:22, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support, bit of an IAR one this, but the article is OK, we've only got two RDs at the moment, and there is some coverage outside the UK (and a lot in it). Laura Jamieson (talk)16:41, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No Objection. Article received very few pageviews prior to his death, 37 a day, but with some interesting spikes. Yesterday the article got 8,178 views. This in my view shows sufficient reader interest. Abductive (reasoning) 16:37, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I am happy to post where there is support for posting people who are borderline on the current criteria when there is no significant objection. If the person does not meet the criteria (not even borderline) I would personally be hesitant to post in most circumstances. Thryduulf (talk) 23:13, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose Unless there is something unique in the inaugration ceremony, we don't post this, instead only at the point of the confirmed election results (as Brandmeister noted). --MASEM (t) 14:12, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I'm aware, ITN/C didn't exist in its current form in 2009. New criteria were put in place, discussions were instituted. In other words, this is an apples and oranges comparison. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:09, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Is this person somehow groundbreaking in their winning office? I'm also not sure how your point is relevant, when things have greatly changed since that time, almost to the point where it was totally different then. 331dot (talk) 20:32, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Are you suggesting the election was not historic enough back then that we would not have posted both the inauguration and the election with today's criteria? What exactly has changed? All I am saying is that Obama was historically groundbreaking enough to merit posting both. No election since then has met that same level of significance.--WaltCip (talk) 23:20, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The result of the election was posted; that's where we typically stop, at least with modern, current criteria. Unless there is something particularly notable about this event, I don't see a need to make an exception. 331dot (talk) 20:32, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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New Syrian Army rebels fail to capture the border town of Al-Bukamal from ISIL militants, with an ISIL affiliated news source claiming the group killed 40 rebels and captured 15 more in a counter-attack. (Reuters)
Toyota, which on Tuesday announced a recall of 1.43 million hybrids because of an airbag problem, today announces the recall of 2.87 million vehicles worldwide, produced between April 2006 and August 2015, because of a possible problem with their evaporative fuel emissions control unit. (Reuters)
The Lesedi La Rona diamond, the largest uncut diamond in the world, went on sale at an auction in Mayfair with it expected to sell at £52 million, or US$70 million. However, the diamond only managed to draw a high bid of US$61 million, falling short of the reserve price to sell it. (BBC)(CBC News)
The Vietnamese Ministry of Defense says eight bodies from a Coast Guard plane that crashed June 16, 2016, have been found. The search continues for the ninth crew member. The CASA C-212 Aviocar was on a search and rescue mission for the then-missing pilot of a crashed Su30-MK2 fighter jet; the pilot's body was found on the 17th. (AP)(Tuổi Trẻ)
Antoine Deltour and Raphael Halet, two whistleblowers who revealed the Luxembourg Leaks financial scandal, are found guilty of leaking the documents and are given a 12 and nine month suspended sentence and fined €1,500 and €1,000 respectively, while Edouard Perrin, the journalist who was given the leaks, is acquitted of all charges. (BBC)
Anthony Sawina faces five counts of second degree assault after he allegedly taunts and then shoots into a car at 5 Muslim men, injuring 2 in Dinkytown near the University of Minnesota Twin Cities campus. US representative Keith Ellison has called for a Department of Justice investigation into the incident. (Independent)
Volkswagen and the United States Justice Department agree on a $14.7 billion settlement for its emissions-cheating program. The breakdown: $10 billion to consumers to cover buybacks and fixes; $2 billion for green energy funds investment; and, $2.7 billion to offset diesel emissions. In addition, VW agrees on a settlement with 44 U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico that will cost at least $600 million. As for Europe, Volkswagen says its diesel vehicles don't violate European Union emissions standards. (Reuters)(Nasdaq)
IKEA is to recall 27 million Malm chests of drawers in North America due to the danger they pose to children. Since 2014, at least three children have died when the drawers toppled over on them. (BBC)
One of the flight recorders of EgyptAir Flight 804 has been fully repaired in Paris after being found in the Mediterranean Sea and will now be sent to Egypt to be analyzed. (Euronews)
Three crew members are missing and one worker is injured following the head-on collision of two BNSF Railway freight trains near the American town of Panhandle, Texas. Officials, concerned that flames from box car fires could cause a fast-moving grass fire, order an evacuation of some nearby areas. (AP via MSN)
A huge explosion completely destroys a house and damages 24 others in Mississauga, Canada. At least one person is dead and 13 others are injured, according to Mississauga Fire and Emergency Services. Thousands of residents are forced to evacuate and many spend the night at a local community shelter. (CBC News)(CP24)
The European Parliament's first debate on the UK's vote to leave is marked by bitter exchanges as prominent pro-Brexit figure Nigel Farage is booed and heckled by members of the European Parliament and European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker is heckled after saying that he is neither a robot nor a bureaucrat. (BBC)
Labour party leader Jeremy Corbyn refuses to resign after losing a vote of no confidence, with 80% of voting members of the Parliamentary Labour Party voting against him. Critics which include fellow MPs cite his failure to do more in the effort for the UK to remain in the EU as the main issue. (The Guardian)
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Article needs updating Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Moore was a guitarist for Elvis Presley whose work is oft described as "pioneering" and "groundbreaking" in the early development of rock and roll, and he is a member of two music halls of fame. Article isn't great. --Bongwarrior (talk) 06:54, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – When you say "article quality too weak right now", does that refer to the seemingly indiscriminate tag bombing throughout? Other than that, I couldn't find much wrong with it. Also, while on the subject of music figures, I'm dismayed that no one nominated Bernie Worrell. I've been busy enough to where I didn't even learn of his death until this morning, otherwise I would have gladly done so. Earlier this year, Robert Stigwood was never nominated, even though someone of far less significance to 1970s music wound up being posted (I forget exactly who right this moment). RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 21:34, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
And by all means come here to nominate more RDs. That way you can be less disappointed, although I doubt either of the two individuals you mentioned would meet the current criteria. The Rambling Man (talk) 04:32, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. What is indiscriminate about asking for citations throughout a poorly referenced article? Would you rather have one tag at the top of the article? The Rambling Man (talk) 04:33, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
What's wrong, you say? Due to the obsession some editors have about referencing, I've seen more and more articles in recent years that while well-referenced, are incomprehensible to the reader because the ONLY thing tying them together are the existence of references at the end of statements. While I've read plenty about the Elvis universe, it's not exactly my area of expertise. Still, I would imagine that there's no end to available sources. As for Worrell, I would say the same as I said about Andy Fraser: hugely influential for decades among the music community, but perhaps some editors are too hung up on the difference between band leader and sideman. And I live close to the 65th parallel north, which means that summer presents opportunities (e.g. outdoor recreation, paying work) not available at other times of the year due to an often harsh winter climate, so I just haven't had the desire to spend all my time "saving the world" on this or other websites. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 06:12, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't really follow your rant. The article was tagged because it was inadequately referenced. We have policies, like WP:BLP to help you understand why it's important. If you prefer to promote unreferenced material to the main page, I'd suggest that Wikipedia isn't the project for you. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:47, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
By golly, I had no idea Bernie Worrell had died, otherwise I surely would have nominated him. :( This is why we need the trial criteria. --WaltCip (talk) 12:55, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I can recall, "Must be famous solely of their own accord rather than through association" is not an RD criteria, even not factoring in the trial. Or are we saying Nancy Reagan should not have been posted because she happens to be associated with the Gipper?--WaltCip (talk) 16:20, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Come on you two, please check the article quality too. If you continue not to do so, we'll have to start discounting your votes on face value. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:32, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I guess there's some kind of perverse irony about dealing with people who are happy to maintain three levels of notability for deaths yet pay no attention whatsoever to article quality. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:45, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I fixed up an article to get it posted a couple of days ago. The fact is nobody is going to be able to keep up with all the needed improvements if your awful proposal is enacted. Abductive (reasoning) 06:43, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Violins? As I noted, anyone can keep up with any article they want to improve. Nobody is suggesting all editors must edit all RDs, where did you get that idea from? Perhaps you're losing the wood for the trees now, as this new objection is beyond absurd. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:22, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support on notability, oppose on quality Meets the RD criteria for importance in his field, but a quick glance at the article shows that the quality is not appropriate for a main page article. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:40, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose on notability - not significant in this field in his own right, only by association with Elvis. The Halls of Fame are massive, being named in them isn't automatically an indication of notability. Also number of page views is not currently a criteria for RD inclusion so votes based on this aren't valid. The precedent of Sylvia Anderson exists in that the page views for her article were higher than for the existing RD articles but her article was not posted to RD. MurielMary (talk) 07:15, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Support once we have a few hours to get more details and expand the article. Even if this turns out to be some type of industrial accident (though all signs point to something more malicious), the death count (10 so far it looks like) and injured at a major airport is significant news. --MASEM (t) 20:19, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Very significant news story. It's unfortunate to see the situation deteriorating like this in Turkey; hopefully these incidents will become a rarity again. Kurtis(talk)21:20, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's comments: Renowned NFL defensive coordinator, including for 1985 Chicago Bears, and head coach for Eagles and Cardinals, spent 26 years in NFL. Compy90 (talk) 12:40, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD when improved The article lead is a bit paltry, but his most significant contribution (outside of Rex Ryan and Rob Ryan, his sons) is creating the 46 defense. Implemented on the 1985 Chicago Bears, they are considered by many to be the best defensive team in NFL history. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:14, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
He is also considered by many sources one of the greatest defensive minds in NFL history and he clearly did revolutionize the sport. Without the 46 defense, the current pass rushing movement would be significantly different. Just because the Pro Football Hall of Fame is biased against innovative coaching in general, only selecting coaches who won a ton of Super Bowls, doesn't mean he's significant to the sport. Meinnaples (talk) 18:08, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Looks like everything is (for the most part) sourced. Usually a lot of debate surround whether or not one should be considered great despite their success being mostly as a coordinator, but Ryan's impact is probably one of the largest in NFL history. Zappa24Mati18:19, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
In that case I would suggest you provide some context to who this individual is, both in the blurb and the nomination, and why she should be eligible for such a thing, alongside people like Mandela, Thatcher, Bowie etc. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:59, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the explanation. They both mean absolutely nothing to me, and probably a good deal of other non-Americans, so the clarification is appreciated. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:12, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD, weak oppose on blurb in addition to her career record, she played a major role in growing Women's Basketball and was a major inspiration for women athletes. Although she was an important figure in her field and is notable enough for an RD once the article is ready, I'm not certain she had the global impact that warrants a blurb. ZettaComposer (talk) 12:01, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD. Article is in a dozen languages. Just because a lone voter here hasn't heard of her doesn't mean most women basketball supporters haven't. — Wyliepedia12:13, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You missed the point. I didn't make such an assertion. I simply asked for help in understanding why this individual would be comparable to Nelson Mandela or Margaret Thatcher or David Bowie. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:48, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Sunshineisles2: Yes, the bar for a blurb is high; generally a blurb for the death of a notable person is reserved for world-transforming figures, those at the tip-top of their field. Summitt was very important to her field(the criteria for an RD listing) but was not the #1 or 2 important person in basketball. 331dot (talk) 17:05, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@331dot: For the record, I do not support a blurb, but the threshold seems to be different for non-deaths -- for example, and keeping on the theme of basketball, does anyone outside the U.S. care who won the NBA finals? We should impose equally strict standards for all kinds of stories. That was my point -- it seems to me that much smaller stories than the deaths of David Bowie, Nelson Mandela, etc. are featured fairly frequently, but deaths are handled more rigorously. Just an observation.--Sunshineisles2 (talk) 17:10, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Deaths are handled differently, to avoid turning ITN into an obituary ticker. The NBA Finals are on the recurring items list, indicating they get posted upon an adequate update. Feel free to propose its removal from the list- though 'who cares outside the US' is discouraged as an objection(see "Please do not..." above); very little would be posted if global influence was required. 331dot (talk) 17:14, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, I was surprised that anyone would consider this individual for a blurb, so that's why i asked the question. It has nothing to do with other news blurbs at all, just the death ones which are rare as... The Rambling Man (talk) 17:39, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No, it's a grotesque construction. I remember there being a discussion to attempt to remove it from Wikipedia completely, but I guess the outcome was to tolerate it. Thankfully we won't be seeing it on the main page any time soon... The Rambling Man (talk) 12:49, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD only on article improvements - I can't see a blurb appropriate for this, but importance for RD is fine. However, the article has a number of (likely new) CN tags, and the Records section absolutely needs sourcing (even if it is to the same record source). --MASEM (t) 13:39, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD. The article is so comprehensive that the occasional (and in some cases really unnecessary) citation tags do not dissuade me. Oppose blurb. Newyorkbrad (talk) 15:34, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD when improved, oppose blurb Top of her field, not a blurbed death though. I added a whole bunch of {{cn}} tags when I heard she was moved into hospice care a few days ago, those need to be resolved. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:39, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD May not have known much about her before today, but she was enough of a major/prominent figure within her own field that it seems entirely appropriate.--Sunshineisles2 (talk) 16:50, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD only. Clearly very important to her field, but does not warrant a blurb. I would stress that this is not a case of the female coach with the most wins; she has the most wins period. 331dot (talk) 16:52, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Being eloquent is not part of our job as Wikipedia editors. Wikipedia is neither a memorial nor a place to express personal feelings or observations. --Crunch (talk) 18:48, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Crunch: I don't think the intent was to 'be eloquent', but to demonstrate the notability of this person better than Muboshgu, I, or anyone else is doing here. 331dot (talk) 19:07, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Crunch: Indeed, my point in posting Obama's Facebook post was to demonstrate Summitt's notability and impact on her field, very much within the RD realm. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:38, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Have you looked? It has 20 [citation needed] tags as a minimum. I think we need to start discounting your opinion I'm afraid if you believe this is of sufficient quality for the main page. It's becoming systemic. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:08, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
By all means improve the article, this is the part of Wikipedia where we discuss what features in the ITN section, so trivia like that belongs elsewhere. The Rambling Man (talk) 04:31, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Post-posting support RD; Neutral on blurb, but oppose currently proposed blurb wording: "winningest" is colloquial, grammatically questionable, and not widely understood. Also, the NCAA may be the most important institution in U.S. college basketball (though not the only one), but college basketball is also played in Canada, the Philippines and probably a few more countries. Instead, I added an altblurb that I would consider acceptable. --PanchoS (talk) 14:46, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"Winningest" is an informal term that is to be avoided in formal language. It is considered common in the context of sports, so on the pages about sport figures/coaches, its fine since that sets the context to make its use acceptable, but on the front page, which is not sports-related, we should avoid such informal language. --MASEM (t) 16:33, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It's an Americanism. I'd be interested if you could find a single British English source that uses the word. This is English language Wikipedia, not American Wikipedia. Enough said. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:07, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I can answer that. The first time I saw it, I had no idea what it meant at all. I guessed that it meant "most succesful", but it turns out it doesn't mean that at all, it just means "having won the most games". So comparing someone who had coached a team which had won 100 games and lost 500, against someone who had coached a team with 99 wins and no defeats at all, the former would be the "winningest", despite being clearly the worse coach. It's simply not an intuitive word if you live somewhere that doesn't use it; and I've never seen it used outside North American sports, so it's unsurprising that the rest of the English-speaking world would be as confused as I was. (Even more confusing, some dictionaries apparently do define it as "having the most success", which just makes the confusion worse!) Laura Jamieson (talk)22:50, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Well, my example was hyperbolic, but you clearly understand my point. Here's an example from reality though; in the 1975 English football season, Ipswich Town were the "winningest" team, but finished third. Laura Jamieson (talk)06:10, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Two men initially thought to have died when a camper was swept away in Greenbrier County are found alive, lowering the death toll from the disaster to 20 confirmed fatalities and three others missing and presumed dead. (AP via Fox News)
The Supreme Court of the United States strikes down a law that would have required abortion clinics in Texas to upgrade in order to meet new "hospital-like" standards. Supporters of abortion rights said that the proposed law would force nearly all abortion clinics in the state to shut down, while their opponents argued for women's health benefits. (CNN)
Peter Altmaier, German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s chief of staff, warns Britain of dire consequences of exit from the European Union, saying in a newspaper interview that UK leaders should not rule out the possibility of another referendum on the same issue. (Daily Mail)(Bloomberg)
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Nominator's comments: Futurist and best-selling author, known for his book Future Shock and later works about cultural changes, technology, and the digital and communications revolution. Light show (talk) 07:01, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support for RD promptly. Important person and solid article. A few more references would be in order. I'm aware of the section tag but I'm not sure it is warranted so that is not a concern to me. Newyorkbrad (talk) 15:10, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Orange tags and unreferenced paragraphs are to you a "solid" article? Whether or not you think the tag is warranted, someone did, so a discussion needs to resolve it. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:09, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support on importance, oppose on quality The subject appears to meet RD criteria, but his article (orange tag, unsourced paragraphs) does not. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:11, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD - If there were problems with sourcing or section tags, the current version appears to be fixed of those. Sufficient importance due to his body of work. --MASEM (t) 22:04, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's comments: As the BBC notes, this is "the first major abortion ruling since 2007." CNN has also called it as "the most significant decision from the Supreme Court on abortion in two decades." [13]Everymorning(talk)20:32, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose a shift in minor, inward-looking part of a large country, some of which appears to be amongst the backward-thinking in the world. Time to get with the program. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:36, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - While this is a major decision regarding abortion, it is not the major decision that would end whatever debate there is, even though the decision falls more in favor of pro-choice. Since it affects only those states with laws that regulate facilities that call themselves abortion clinics, it won't have significant world-reaching impact. --MASEM (t) 20:40, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose posting an interpretation of law(not even US law, but Texas law) that resulted in the lowest court's ruling being upheld(the appeals court had reversed, leading it to SCOTUS). 331dot (talk) 20:41, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Support pending improvements Absolutely massive name in his field, but the article could use a few improvements. A list of awards would be helpful. EternalNomad (talk) 23:25, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but I don't think you will have this objection about Robin Williams or any other English-speaking/Hollywood actor. I am quite sure there is systemic bias against European film (as was manifested in case of Pierre Brice). --Jenda H. (talk) 09:30, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
So much to say about this. 1) Just because someone does not object Hollywood actors does not mean they have a bias. Hollywood actors are simply usually more notable. That's the biased system, not a systemic bias. 2) That being said, I disagree with TRM's notion that Spencer is not notable enough. True, he was never as famous in the US as he was in Europe, but that should not speak against him. 3) I do agree however that this article needs more work in order to get posted. Zwerg Nase (talk) 09:34, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Italian actor very famous across Europe (article translated in 45 language; italian and german articles were viewed by +300.000 people each). --Holapaco77 (talk) 15:34, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment not ready, plenty of unreferenced material in there, including contradictions about his first film role, no citations for his work as a writer, unsourced quotation, and a few other claims with cites. The Rambling Man (talk) 05:39, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Just post it already. I didn't know that linked articles in ITN needed to have featured status. Isn't the point of the main page to invite editors to improve articles as well? -- [[User:Edokter]] {{talk}}15:01, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Not according to some. Some feel that it is only to showcase flawless articles. I think ITN should showcase recent important events and to encourage a mass of editing to the topic, which often causes the flaws to be fixed within minutes. - Floydianτ¢15:12, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Support in principle. I also strongly support a blurb mentioning Messi's retirement from the national team, as this is substantially bigger news in the media than the conclusion of the tournament.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 14:32, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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