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| altblurb = In college cage action, Wildcats waste Wolverines by a walloping 79-62 to capture the '''[[2018 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Tournament|NCAA crown]]'''.
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April 3

April 3, 2018 (2018-04-03) (Tuesday)
Armed conflicts and attacks

Arts and culture

Business and economy
  • Following the bankruptcy of UK engineering outsourcing firm Carillion, the Official Receiver reveals more than half of the roughly 20,000 employees have found new jobs. (Sky News)
  • UK retailer Conviviality, owner of Bargain Booze, says it intends to appoint administrators within ten days. (Citywire)

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment
  • The WWF describes Germany's rivers as being in a state "bordering on critical" after it emerges more than 90% do not meet European Union standards for cleanliness and ecological quality. (The Local)

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

[Posted] RD: Lill-Babs

Article: Lill-Babs (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1], [2]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 BabbaQ (talk) 13:27, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Nice work.

April 2018 caste protests in India

Article: April 2018 caste protests in India (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Nine people have died amid violent protests involving tens of thousands of protesters from the Dalit (formerly untouchable) community across India. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The SC/ST caste groups violently protested across India against the Supreme Court order.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Nine people have died amid violent protests involving tens of thousands of protesters from the SC/ST caste groups across India.
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Affecting most major cities. Sherenk1 (talk) 12:33, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support as a updater. I would prefer it in ongoing events instead of blurb. I have also proposed alternative blurb which does not focus on number of deaths. ALT2 uses SC/ST caste groups instead of term Dalit because it is unrecognized term by the government and definition of Dalit sometimes do not include ST caste groups. The protests are against the court order on the SC/ST atrocities act, not government. So I had proposed ALT1.--Nizil (talk) 12:58, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose remove the "Background" section and you have a sub-stub sized article. Needs expansion about the actual event. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:00, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

April 2

April 2, 2018 (2018-04-02) (Monday)
Armed conflicts and attacks
Disasters and accidents

International relations
  • China–United States relations
  • South Africa's Winnie Madikizela-Mandela OLS, also known as Winnie Mandela dies.Winnie Mandela was a South African anti-apartheid activist and politician, and the ex-wife of Nelson Mandela and a well respected ANC Stalwart.

Politics and elections

Science and technology

Sports

2018 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Tournament

Articles: 2018 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Championship Game (talk · history · tag) and 2018 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Tournament (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In basketball, Villanova defeats Michigan to win the NCAA Men's Championship. (Post)
Credits:

One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 03:16, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support –Article in decent shape and updated. Item is ITNR, this looks ready to go. –Ammarpad (talk) 03:31, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment as per other sport ITNRs we need a better /larger summary of the game; additionally, factors such as broadcaster, estimated audiance, etc. should also be included. --Masem (t) 03:43, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • References needed on many tables, heats, and broadcasts. Stephen 03:48, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: the NCAA Women's Tournament should be included. It was last year. — Wyliepedia @ 06:41, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Last year's women's was significant because it halted Connecticut's 111-game winning streak. If this year's is not ready, especially since the women's is not in the ITNR either, it should not hold up the nomination.—Bagumba (talk) 12:24, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support posting the Men's Tournament once it is judged to be ready. I strongly oppose posting the Women's Tournament because it's just not that big of a deal even in America. It should not have been posted last year, either. Lepricavark (talk) 14:14, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I see no reason not to include the Woman's results (though that game also has need of updates). It is standard practice that if there are both men's and women's divisions of a sport finale happening effectively at the same time that we should post both. I know the Women's NCAA has nowhere close to the viewership of the Men's, but if we're posting the Men's, it's systematic bias to not post the Women's that ended the day before. --Masem (t) 14:21, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is not systemic bias to refrain from posting something that is not receiving sufficient attention even in its own country. The reality is that the Women's Tournament does not receive nearly the same level of news coverage as the Men's Tournament. Most American sports fans don't care about the Women's Tournament and it would be an insult to our readers to pretend otherwise. Lepricavark (talk) 16:26, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] Discovery of Icarus, farther detected star

Article: MACS J1149 Lensed Star 1 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Astronomers report the discovery of MACS J1149 Lensed Star 1, nicknamed Icarus, the farthest-known star, 9 billion light-years away. (Post)
News source(s): Nature Astronomy (published paper), Guardian, Reuters
Credits:

Nominator's comments: The article is presently really short, but could easily be expanded to describe the characteristics they've determined about the star (blue supergiant, moving away from Earth) and how it was discovers (gravitational lensing via Hubble). Masem (t) 00:34, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

China retaliates to US tariffs

Article: Trump tariffs (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ China retaliates to US tariffs on steel and aluminum with its own tariffs on 128 US products (Post)
News source(s): [3] [4]
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Now an international incident involving the world's two biggest economies. Banedon (talk) 23:43, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't mind (feel free to change the nomination however you see fit; I don't own it) but I think it's better to make it a blurb and roll it into ongoing if it continues to make the news. Banedon (talk) 23:52, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] RD: Bob Beattie

Article: Bob Beattie (skiing) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Denver Post
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article well sourced --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:02, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Winnie Mandela

Article: Winnie Madikizela-Mandela (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 The Rambling Man (talk) 14:11, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose You edit conflicted with me making the nomination, but the article is currently tagged for neutrality. I haven't got time to investigate how serious the problems are. Thryduulf (talk) 14:13, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose until consensus is reached regarding the alleged NPOV issues. For the record, I don't think the article is all that bad, though there are some areas where UNDUE might be an issue. And the opening post on the talk page over this is simply a screed that should have been deleted per NOTFORUM. However there have been posts since then and so we are where we are. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:02, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait - until issues identified above are resolved. However, should this be a blurb discussion? She would pass the Thatcher-Mandela axis, after all, and is a significant figure in the history of South Africa, and the story has occupied ten-fifteen minutes on the main Irish news broadcast, so international significance is clear. Stormy clouds (talk) 17:06, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Tag removed now, so support. Stormy clouds (talk) 18:31, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - I haven't read the entire article to see what Senegambianamestudy has mentioned as being biased, whether that assumption is accurate and how to improve it. However, this tag is too important to ignore. Anarcho-authoritarian (talk) 17:09, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - Regretfully. The article has been tagged for neutrality. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:00, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conditional Support - I think this death is too notable to leave out. However, I do agree the article needs fixing up. I would support posting once the article's issues have been fixed. (NorthernFalcon (talk) 21:15, 2 April 2018 (UTC))[reply]
  • Support - I've cleaned up the worst of the neutrality issues,especially in the lede, and removed the tag. I doubt the article would ever meet the standards of the neutrality tagger, since she was very controversial, and even sympathetic sources like sahistory.org.za struggle to be hagiographic. Overall, she's a highly significant figure, whose death should make the front page. Park3r (talk) 12:04, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Philippine vice presidential election poll recount

Article: Philippine presidential election, 2016#Electoral protest (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Supreme Court of the Philippines starts the recounting of the 2016 Philippine vice presidential election votes from the provinces of Camarines Sur, Iloilo, and Negros Occidental. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The Supreme Court of the Philippines starts its recount of votes from the 2016 Philippine vice presidential election
News source(s): Philstar, Manila Times, Inquirer, and Sunstar
Credits:

Nominator's comments: It is a notable event as it might change the second most powerful person the Philippines; it is not an ITNR but I think the event is notable. ITSQUIETUPTOWN talk • contribs 06:35, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Costa Rica election

Article: Costa Rican general election, 2018 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Carlos Alvarado Quesada is elected president of Costa Rica. (Post)
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 Lihaas (talk) 06:10, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] Tiangong-1

Article: Tiangong-1 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Tiangong-1, China's first space station, is deorbited, crashing harmlessly into the South Pacific Ocean. (Post)
News source(s): Guardian, CNN
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Note that this was not a control descent - the station stopped responding to ground control in 2016, and it is relatively fortunate it crashed harmlessly. However, it is the EOL of China's first space station; not an ITNR but I think significant enough. Masem (t) 02:05, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

April 1

April 1, 2018 (2018-04-01) (Sunday)
Armed conflicts and attacks
Business and economy
  • Bahraini state media reports the discovery of the nation's largest known deposit of oil and gas in an offshore field. (Bloomberg)
  • Iraq's Oil Ministry brings forward the proposed date for awarding oil exploration contracts for new fields offshore and near the Iranian and Kuwaiti borders to April 15. (CNBC)
Disasters and accidents
International relations
Law and crime
Politics and elections
Sports

RD: Steven Bochco

Article: Steven Bochco (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): LA Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Mostly well sourced. Emphasis on mostly (there are still parts in the body that are unsourced, some of which are currently tagged as such.) Every morning (there's a halo...) 03:43, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Efraín Ríos Montt

Article: Efraín Ríos Montt (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Needs work. –FlyingAce✈hello 21:28, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[Closed] Aman Tuleyev resigns as Governor of Kemerovo (Russia)

No consensus for local politics. Stephen 23:58, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Aman Tuleyev (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Aman Tuleyev resigns as Governor of Kemerovo Oblast following a shopping complex fire that killed at least 64 people in Kemerovo, Russia (Post)
News source(s): The Moscow Times
Credits:
 179.52.167.173 (talk) 09:38, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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March 31

March 31, 2018 (2018-03-31) (Saturday)
Armed conflicts and attacks

Arts and culture

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Science and technology

Sports

[Posted] RD: Margarita Carrera

Article: Margarita Carrera (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article perhaps a little short but has been updated and sourcing seems OK Dumelow (talk) 09:14, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support Problem solved.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:08, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] RD: Peg Lautenschlager

Article: Peg Lautenschlager (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article has been updated and appears to be fully referenced Dumelow (talk) 09:08, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi The Rambling Man, I have now added reliable references for these results - Dumelow (talk) 21:46, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support good enough for me now! The Rambling Man (talk) 21:50, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] RD: Chris Edwards

Article: Chris Edwards (boxer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, World Boxing
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: British national boxing champion. Pretty well sourced now. Black Kite (talk) 12:51, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] 2018 Land Day incidents

Article: 2018 Land Day incidents (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Admittedly, I'm struggling to think of a blurb that is both succinct and neutral (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Clashes kill 16 at the border between Israel and the Gaza Strip.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Clashes kill 17 Palestinian protesters and injure more than 1,400 others at the border between Israel and the Gaza Strip.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Clashes at the border between Israel and the Gaza Strip leave 17 Palestinian protesters dead and over 1,400 others injured.

It seems like an entry of some kind for the 2018 Land Day incidents would be in order, if anyone can come up with a suitable blurb. 89.240.143.247 (talk) 21:20, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support. All over the news, will run for a while. Black Kite (talk) 10:10, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The article is level 4 edit protected or somesuch, I've asked that the list of victims be refed or deleted but it's gone no where. Maybe someone here with the right barnstars and flags can go and clean that up so we can post it. Without that section it's easily as long as the slew of other irrelevant disaster stories which are routinely posted. --LaserLegs (talk) 11:41, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is an unsourced paragraph, in addition to the above mentioned issue with the victim list. When those two issues are resolved, I support. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:30, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Muboshgu and LaserLegs: I tried to add some citations and fix the raised issues. --Mhhossein talk 20:55, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed it is fixed. I now Support as it's ready. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:08, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I still don't think a list of the individuals is encyclopedic but it's refed so support GTG --LaserLegs (talk) 23:24, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

March 30

March 30, 2018 (2018-03-30) (Friday)
Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Politics and elections

Law and crime

Science and technology

Sports

Win Myint appointed President of Myanmar

Article: Win Myint (politician) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Win Myint is sworn in as President of Myanmar. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Win Myint is elected by the Electoral College as President of Myanmar
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: ITNR as head of state change and it ain't a small country barely in the news. Lihaas (talk) 18:34, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[Closed] RD: Bill Maynard

Stale, unimproved. Stephen 03:43, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Bill Maynard (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-43596854
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: British actor. Needs a few extra references. Aiken D 12:57, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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March 29

March 29, 2018 (2018-03-29) (Thursday)
Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports

[Updated] Update on Russian diplomat expulsion story

Article: Poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: No blurb specified (Post)
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Cross-posted from ITN/Errors where it was deleted: Apparently Russia now intends to expel at least 60 diplomats as a retaliation for having their diplomats expelled by the Western nations. Should we update the blurb with this? This is pretty serious. WaltCip (talk) 11:24, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Egyptian Presidential election 2018

Articles: Egyptian presidential election, 2018 (talk · history · tag) and Abdel Fattah el-Sisi (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Incumbent Abdel Fattah el-Sisi wins the Egyptian presidential election, 2018 (Post)
News source(s): [5] [6]
Credits:

Article updated
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 Banedon (talk) 22:41, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] RD: Emiliano Mondonico

Article: Emiliano Mondonico (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BT
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: This article is looking very well referenced due to the work of two specialists in Italian football. Harambe Walks (talk) 20:50, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[Closed] Pope says there is no Hell

Nomination withdrawn per 331dot's comment. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:50, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Pope Francis (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In an interview, Pope Francis states there is no Hell. (Post)
News source(s): Newsweek and numerous other sources.
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: Religious news doesn't often make it on here but this sounds pretty significant not least because it at least appears to contradict what the Roman Catholic Church has traditionally taught on this subject. Ad Orientem (talk) 16:39, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. I honestly am not sure about the merits of this at the moment. But skimming the Newsweek piece, the Church is stating that it was not a formal interview but a private conversation and is challenging the accuracy of the transcript. Either way, this isn't the Pope making a formal declaration of Church policy/teachings. 331dot (talk) 16:42, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That's a fair point. This is not an ex cathedra pronouncement and it changes no doctrine. I may withdraw this. However the Vatican's response is not really a denial. They play this game whenever this Pope puts his foot in his mouth by issuing a non-denial denial. "Well he may not have been accurately quoted... blah blah blah." -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:44, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Also a fair point. 331dot (talk) 16:48, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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[Closed] RD: Rusty Staub

Stale, unimproved. Stephen 03:43, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Rusty Staub (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Looks mostly well sourced (but there are some unsourced bits and pieces that need to be cleaned up). Every morning (there's a halo...) 15:39, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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March 28

March 28, 2018 (2018-03-28) (Wednesday)
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[Posted] 2018 Valencia, Venezuela fire

Article: 2018 Valencia, Venezuela fire (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A fire in a police station in Valencia, Venezuela kills at least 78 people. (Post)
News source(s): Guardian BBC CNN ABC
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Article updated

Nominator's comments: Large death toll, lots of media attention, but article is very new and also very small, so expansion is clearly needed. Note also that ABC News [8] says this is "one of the worst catastrophes involving the nation's prison system." Every morning (there's a halo...) 15:20, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I’ve been adding a bit. It’s now a “start” class, and I’ve rated it as such. Jusdafax (talk) 05:13, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I have now added a “Background” section and upgraded the article class to C. Jusdafax (talk) 23:27, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[Closed] RD: Clément Rosset

Stale, unimproved. Stephen 03:42, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Clément Rosset (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Truong, Nicolas (28 March 2018). "Mort de Clément Rosset, philosophe de la joie tragique". Le Monde. Retrieved 29 March 2018.; Franck-Dumas, Elisabeth (28 March 2018). "LE PHILOSOPHE CLÉMENT ROSSET RATTRAPÉ PAR LE RÉEL". Libération. Retrieved 29 March 2018.
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: French philosopher Zigzig20s (talk) 12:28, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
User:LouisAlain: Would you like to help with this please? It would involve translating the French text.Zigzig20s (talk) 08:35, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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[Posted] RD: Sir Eric McClintock

Article: Eric McClintock (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Australian Financial Review
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: Well sourced article --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 06:45, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[Closed] Galaxy seemingly without Dark Matter

No consensus to post. Stephen 23:29, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Articles: NGC1052-DF2 (talk · history · tag) and Dark matter (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Astronomers report that galaxy NGC1052-DF2 has no detected dark matter. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Astronomers report that galaxy NGC1052-DF2 has no detected dark matter.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Astronomers report that galaxy NGC1052-DF2 appears to contain little or no dark matter. (Please note: this is the original blurb, to which many of the comments below refer)
News source(s): BBC, Irish Examiner, Herald Scotland, National Post (Canada)
Credits:

Both articles updated
Nominator's comments: The most important possibility is that this unexpected discovery, the first of its kind, may eventually prove that dark matter is real, and not just an illusion caused by a currently unknown effect of the gravity of ordinary matter. But, as with all important discoveries, further study will be needed before any of this can be confirmed (so using that argument to oppose posting would seem to logically rule out all or almost all important discoveries, with the initial story being rejected as unconfirmed, and the eventual confirmation(s) later rightly rejected as not news). Also the first of the two main target 'articles' is currently a section of another article (reached via a Redirect), which, for all I know, may well have to be changed to being its own article. Tlhslobus (talk) 05:28, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Dark matter is 85% of all matter so this is.. interesting. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 05:50, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose "appears" and "little or no" render this DYK material. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:23, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: Agree with TRM, this is probably better suited for DYK although I am not sure if there are enough information at the moment to expand. Alex Shih (talk) 06:59, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on merits, though I haven't had a chance to look at the article quality. This is in the news and I think fits points 1 and 3 of the purpose of ITN. GoldenRing (talk) 10:45, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Oppose - certainly significant, but I agree with TRM and Alex Shih that this is probably better suited to DYK. Stormy clouds (talk) 11:07, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support Interesting and noteworthy. The blurb does not sound news-y, and if this were good to go for DYK then I would tell them to go there. But I support it on its merits per GoldenRing. talk to !dave 12:25, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose it’s a single paper, and may be overturned. With the “appears to” it makes little sense to report it as fact. Juxlos (talk) 13:06, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose While astronomic topics are a welcome addition for ITN, this appears highly speculative and will be impossible to prove out in any real time scale. --Masem (t) 13:50, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conditional Support if areas of concern are fixed. I support this based on merit, but I do agree with the oppose !vote rationale that DYK is more fitting. Blurb should be modified if added into ITN, as Juxlos pointed out that "appears to" heavily implies that these findings remain early and speculative rather than confirmed and objective. It is also worth noting that this blurb puts both in-text links in bold; the primary article for this ITN submission should be bolded, and all article links should simply be non-bold links. BrendonTheWizard (talk) 15:19, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Thanks for all the replies, and especially all the suggestions to take it to DYK. I've never done a DYK before, and I'm finding all sorts of potential banana skins when trying to prepare this one for nomination there, such as whether what is currently a Redirect to a section of another article will do (seemingly not), and whether, despite TRM's comment above, 'appears' and 'little or no' are incompatible with "The hook should refer to established facts that are unlikely to change" (from here), and whether it is problematic that the 'little or no' is another editor's paraphrasing of the Nature paper, whereas the cited BBC article just says 'no', and so on. So I've decided I would probably prefer to leave any DYK nom to some editor more familiar with that process than me (and find some simpler case for my first DYK nom some other time, if ever). Meanwhile I was thinking of withdrawing this nom here due to the DYK suggestions, but as DYK also seems problematic, and as there have so far actually been 4 support !votes (5 if you include me, as against 5 opposes), so that it is just possible (tho seemingly unlikely) that a consensus for posting could yet emerge, I've decided to leave any decision on closing this nom to others. Thanks again to all, and regards, Tlhslobus (talk) 16:02, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Re DYK, redirects are out and the entire article, never mind the hooky section, is far too short for DYK at present. If it could be expanded I see no reason in principle why it should not be acceptable there. You can always write a hook that quotes someone; that will remain true (ie that s/he said x) even if the opinion subsequently turns out to be incorrect. (Which is the line the BBC report has largely taken.) Espresso Addict (talk) 18:49, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment
    • 0) As I don't expect this nom to succeed, this comment is probably mostly 'just for the record' and/or 'just for future reference', etc
    • 1) Bold Links: Per Brendan The Wizard, I've changed the blurb to just one bold link.
      • 1b) Currently that is NGC1052-DF2 because, being short, it has no Citations Needed issues, etc
      • 1c) However if Dark Matter is deemed (now or later) to be of adequate quality then I would marginally prefer it to be the bold link, as somewhat better serving ITN's stated purpose of giving readers the background to the story, so I've added this as altblurb1
      • 1d) But actually WP:ITN is currently a bit ambiguous about how many bold links there can be, tho the '(s)' in "with an emboldened link to the updated article(s)." (here) appears to imply that one can have more than one, so if a posting admin wants to bold both articles (in the unlikely event this gets posted), please feel free to do so.
    • 2) Re-wording: Due to various objections above about 'appears' and 'little or no', I've re-worded the blurb as: Astronomers report that galaxy NGC1052-DF2 has no detected dark matter. (This is repeated with Dark matter bolded in altblurb1, per item 1c above).
      • 2b) However I've left the original wording as altblurb2, as I think the original wording is actually much better. As far as I'm concerned, objections to 'appears' and 'little or no' and objections like "it’s a single paper, and may be overturned" and "With the “appears to” it makes little sense to report it as fact", etc, are dangerously misguided. With science stories, the only thing we should normally report as fact is that scientists have published something. Anything else tends to mislead our readers about the inherently speculative and reversible nature of Science, thus encouraging Cargo Cult views of Science. It has also led us to mislead many of our readers in practice (even if in theory we can always arrogantly blame them for their 'ignorant misunderstanding', etc), and perhaps also unnecessarily damaged our reputation, by posting stories like Dua's layer without qualifying words like 'possible' (for all except that story's last day at ITN). And it comes from a mindset that would prevent us reporting many of the most important results in Science (such as the Michelson–Morley experiment, and Eddington's 1919 General Relativity test, etc), initially (and wrongly) because they might be reversed, and later (and rightly) because they were no longer news.
    • 3) DYK v ITN: Despite above suggestions, I no longer think this is suitable for DYK, as, among other things, it would seemingly require questionably moving an article section to become a new article, and then padding it out with unencyclopedic waffle to fill the size requirements, etc. Meanwhile I think it remains entirely appropriate for ITN, for reasons well stated above, especially by GoldenRing (for which many thanks).
    • 4) Regards, Tlhslobus (talk) 10:52, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, if that even carries any meaning given my perceived inconsequential status. I would like to at least thank Tlhslobus for the hard work and determination in bringing this article to discussion. As little as a year ago, this page was highly informative with genuine discourse from international viewpoints. I could always count on it to educate me regarding various news items with commentary from those more familiar with the events than populist news outlets. These days, sadly, it degenerates far too quickly into passive aggression and nasty attitudes. It's neither enjoyable nor educational when that happens. There also seems to be far too much weight given towards pointless sporting events, but that's only my opinion. I come here for the education, not the drama, and not for its value as a sports almanac. 165.225.0.85 (talk)
Thanks for your kind words and your support, 165.225.0.85. Incidentally, if you're worried about your perceived status here, the quickest way to improve it is almost certainly to create a user account for yourself. It's free and all you need is an e-mail address (and you can then click on 'Create account' at the top of this page). Anyway, thanks again, and regards. Tlhslobus (talk) 13:13, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: To say that a galaxy "has no detected dark matter" is poor grammar. "Scientists are unable to detect any dark matter in galaxy x" would be an improvement. — Hugh (talk) 20:47, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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[Posted] RD: Bobby Ferguson

Article: Bobby Ferguson (footballer, born 1938) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Going out on a limb here. Practically all of this I have sourced from the obituary in the local newspaper ([14]) but for somebody who worked for a medium-sized football team in the 1970s and 1980s that may be as good as we get. Harambe Walks (talk) 23:01, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] RD: Peter Munk

Article: Peter Munk (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Global News
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Founder of Barrick Gold. Article is pretty well sourced as is but there are a few unsourced statements (notably in the Honours section). Floydian τ ¢ 19:27, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

*Oppose until orange tag issues are fixed. Challenger l (talk) 20:53, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Really? You'd hold this back based on a tag added 30 minutes ago because the lede isn't long enough?!? ITN has become a bureaucratic red tape these days. Article is fine. - Floydian τ ¢ 20:58, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] Smith and Warner sacked from international cricket

Posted, and there's no need for debates about cricket popularity. Stephen 23:00, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Articles: Steve Smith (cricketer) (talk · history · tag) and David Warner (cricketer) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Cricket Australia ban Steve Smith and David Warner for twelve months and Cameron Bancroft for nine months from international cricket amid a ball tampering controversy. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ As a result of the verdict given by the CA, both Steve Smith and David Warner have been banned from playing in the upcoming 2018 Indian Premier League season.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Cricket Australia bans Steve Smith and David Warner for 12 months from all top-flight cricket in the aftermath of a ball tampering incident.
News source(s): (BBC Sport), (CNN),

(ESPN Cricinfo)
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: This is one of the breaking news in the aspect of the sport of cricket as two most prominent cricketers have been banned for one year has been the story on the headlines. Abishe (talk) 14:35, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There have been several previous incidents - see Ball tampering - but this seems to be the biggest in terms of media reaction and severity of punishment.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 17:17, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There is no way this would fail NEVENT. The amount of coverage generated means it would quickly overwhelm the article on the tour and raise UNDUE concerns, as Jayron32 notes above, so it has rightly been spun off into its own article.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 18:49, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
A burst of short-term coverage and no longer-tail coverage would fail NEVENT/GNG. That's a core element of WP being NOT#NEWS comes into play, we're looking for news events that have a longer-lasting impact. If this event started a large investigation into cheating in cricket, then perhaps the article is justified, but right now, with all those involved having asserted their guilt and taken the punishment, it seems like the end of the story here. Its still enough to include in a more notable standalone article. --Masem (t) 18:55, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This isn't a burst, this has been massive news for days and will continue to be so while the fallout is analysed, it'll no doubt have an impact on the way in which the ball is inspected and treated by umpires, and is very much not the end of a story. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:15, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support This is huge - the Australian cricket captain is arguably the most high-profile sportsperson in the country and he's been banned for a year for cheating.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 18:51, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Big news right now, biographies updated, etc. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 19:48, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per WaltCip. Huge impact on an international sport, I'm even seeing it in my news feeds here in the U.S. Davey2116 (talk) 19:58, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support alt 2 I don't particularly find this very interesting, but it dominates Australian news (even saw one article say the cricket captain is the second most important person in Australia, after the prime minister), and it's not mine to judge what should be interesting to Australians. Banedon (talk) 20:13, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. What even is this sport? Trivia. Sandstein 20:38, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    What even is this !vote? Absurd. Cricket is far more global than (say) American football, or ice hockey, or college basketball... The Rambling Man (talk) 20:46, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't particularly care about the nomination but that is patently false, TRM. You might be right about the American-style football bit, since that is primarily played in the US, but ice hockey and basketball? First, "college basketball" is not a sport, but a level to distinguish between professional and amateur. I know you know this, but I thought I'd point that out for others. Basketball and ice hockey are international sports which are played at the Olympic level and cricket is, well, not. It's mostly popular in the UK, the Indian subcontinent and Australasia, but that's about it. — Moe Epsilon 22:37, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    You forgot about Southern Africa (Zimbabwe and South Africa where coincidentally the cheating happened) and the English-speaking Caribbean (Jamaica, Trinidad & Tobago, etc.). Gizza (t)(c) 22:56, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment clear consensus to post now, so good to go, marking as ready. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:47, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted. I've not bolded the tampering article for now, first because I think "scandal" is a poor choice of title & second because it has no lead and thus is confusing if you have not been following this. Espresso Addict (talk) 21:07, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment both articles have unreferneced paragraphs. I don't know what "On 6 September 2017, while playing against Bangladesh at the Zohur Ahmed Chowdhury Stadium, Chittagong,he became the sixth Australian player to score back-to-back test hundreds in Asia after Allan Border, Bob Simpson, Damien Martyn, Mike Hussey and Michael Clarke." means but it's unreferneced. If you're going to pile on "support OMG big news" could you at least take a cursory glance at the article? This is absurd. --LaserLegs (talk) 21:15, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    The target has been changed. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:23, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks TRM. --LaserLegs (talk) 21:28, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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[Closed] Kim Jong Un visits China

SNOW Close, interesting nomination nonetheless, but the consensus is almost completely against posting this. Hornetzilla78 (talk) 15:47, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: China–North Korea relations (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ North Korean Leader Kim Jong-un meets with Chinese President Xi Jinping in Beijing. (Post)
News source(s): (The New York Times)
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: Momentous visit - probably going to be rivalled in news value only by Trump visiting North Korea. —Colipon, 02:45, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
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March 27

March 27, 2018 (2018-03-27) (Tuesday)
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[Closed] Fabiano Caruana qualifies for World Chess Championship

The Championship itself is ITN/R. Clear consensus against posting makes this a snow closure. Checkmate. Stormy clouds (talk) 22:44, 27 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Articles: Candidates Tournament 2018 (talk · history · tag) and Fabiano Caruana (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Fabiano Caruana becomes the first Italian person to qualify for the World Chess Championship. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Fabiano Caruana becomes the first American to qualify for an undisputed World Chess Championship since 1975.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Fabiano Caruana wins the Candidates Tournament 2018 to qualify for the World Chess Championship.
Credits:
Nominator's comments: (dozens of undisputed chess world championships have been played since the first in 1886, and 2018 will be the 16th since 1972) If posted at all should be now since he's unlikely to win — his opponent's stronger than him (Magnus) and Americans haven't even been runner up since 1907 besides that one time that genius played in 1972 then went crazy (Kamsky lost the FIDE World Chess Championship 1996 to the favorite but that shouldn't count since there were 2 rival championships in the 90s and he missed out on getting into the stronger one by 1 place) Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 19:47, 27 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
He, not she. power~enwiki (π, ν) 19:57, 27 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It certainly would be notable if a woman had qualified for the World Championship, but we're still waiting for that.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 20:00, 27 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
He's a citizen of both the US and Italy but moot point as this is snow close. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 21:39, 27 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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