Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates

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Willie Mays in 1961 American baseball player Willie Mays (pictured) dies at the age of 93. A fire in a residential building in Mangaf, south of Kuwait City, kills fifty people. A plane crash near Chikangawa, Malawi, kills nine people, including Vice President Saulos Chilima. In tennis, Iga Świątek wins the women's singles and Carlos Alcaraz wins the men's singles titles at the French Open. Ongoing: Israel–Hamas war timeline Russian invasion of Ukraine timeline Sudanese civil war timeline Recent deaths: Éric Tappy Mike Downey Siri Kannangara Brad Dusek Matija Sarkic Neil Goldschmidt view — page history — related changes — edit

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April 18

Portal:Current events/2018 April 18

April 18, 2018 (2018-04-18) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israeli–Palestinian conflict Terrorism in Israel As Israel marks Memorial Day followed immediately by Independence Day a truck driver is arrested at a checkpoint at the Reihan Crossing in the West Bank suspected of being on his way to launch a terror attack. The truck's contents were marked as supplies for communities on the border but were actually explosives. Israeli Defence Minister Avigdor Liberman orders the checkpoint closed. Henceforth only humanitarian cases will be allowed passage at Israel's discretion. (Israel National News) (Haaretz) Syrian Civil War Israeli involvement in the Syrian Civil War It is revealed a recent airstrike mounted by Israel against an airbase in Syria targeted an Iranian Tor missile air defence system. (Haaretz) Libyan Crisis (2011–present) A car bomb targeting a military official in Benghazi, Libya kills one and injures two. The official survives. (Reuters) Terrorism in the United States Three men are convicted in Kansas of plotting a mosque bombing. (CNBC) Terrorism in Egypt An Egyptian court jails three Muslim Brotherhood members for life and 36 others for ten years each for terror offences. Fourteen others are acquitted. (News24) Eternal derby of Bulgarian football A bomb explodes at a football match between Bulgarian rivals Levski Sofia and CSKA at the Vasil Levski National Stadium in Sofia, injuring two police officers, one seriously. It is the second time a match between the two has seen an explosion, with a similar incident killing a man in 2000. (ESPN UK) Reactions to the poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal UK media regulator Ofcom launches investigations into RT over possible breaches of impartiality rules in its coverage of the poisoning. Ofcom warns producer TV Novosti it may be forced to cease UK broadcasting. (Reuters) Arts and culture Cinema of Saudi Arabia A 35-year ban on movie theaters ends in Saudi Arabia with Marvel Studios' Black Panther being the first film to show. (CNN) Business and economy Economy of Iran Iran's central bank officially switches from using the U.S. dollar to the euro in its international transactions. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents Shipwrecks in 2018 Search and rescue operations end after a crewman missing after a fire broke out aboard drillship MV Geo Technical in the South China Sea yesterday is found dead on the vessel. A gas leak discovered today was hampering the efforts. (The Star) (The Maritime Executive) 2018 in Puerto Rico Puerto Rico experiences an island-wide blackout after an excavator accidentally downs a transmission line. (AP News) Accidents involving helicopters An Iranian helicopter crashes into the Persian Gulf whilst evacuating an unwell oil worker. Two people die. (Trend) Associated Aviation Flight 361 Nigerian investigators release a final report finding the disaster occurred because of an unidentified engine malfunction which was mismanaged by the crew leading to a stall. The resulting crash killed fifteen. (The Aviation Herald) Saratov Airlines Flight 703 Russian investigators say the flight crew received indications of a failure in the heating for the pitot-static system, which measures parameters including airspeed. The crew received mismatching airspeed information prior to the crash near Moscow. All 71 on board died. (The Aviation Herald) A bus and a truck collide near Winterthur, Switzerland, injuring 15. (ABC News) International relations Tajikistan–Uzbekistan relations Tajikistan and Uzbekistan agree to hold military drills for the first time. (Trend) Iran and weapons of mass destruction Iran reveals several new missiles on Islamic Republic of Iran Army Day, including the new air missile defense system Kamin-2. (Tasmin News Agency) Law and crime Criminal transmission of HIV in the United Kingdom A Crown Court in England jails Daryll Rowe for life with a minimum of 12 years for deliberately infecting five men with HIV and attempting to infect five more. He is the first person convicted of deliberate HIV transmission in the United Kingdom. (BBC News) Basque conflict Basque separatist group ETA announces its dissolution in May. (EFE) Politics and elections Cuban parliamentary election, 2018 Cuban president Raúl Castro prepares to step down as Miguel Díaz-Canel is elected as his successor. This marks the first time since the Cuban Revolution that the country is not led by a member of the Castro family. (Washington Post) Protests against Donald Trump Pittsburgh Police prepares large riot gears for a potential protest if Donald Trump fires Robert Mueller. (Washington Post) Protests in Nicaragua against Daniel Ortega Initially sparked by proposed social security reforms, culminated in demands for president Daniel Ortega to step down and a government crackdown. (The Guardian). Science and technology 2018 in spaceflight NASA's TESS exoplanet space telescope, whose launch was initially delayed, is successfully launched from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station by SpaceX on a Falcon 9 rocket. The first stage of the rocket successfully landed on SpaceX's autonomous spaceport drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean. (CNN) (Space) The U.S. Geological Survey's Hawaiian Volcano Observatory states that Kīlauea is showing unusually high activity and that a new vent could form. (Big Island Now) Stratolaunch announce plans to test fly the world's largest plane this year. (Engadget) Sports 2018 Gaza border protests Reports emerge Palestinian cyclist Alaa Al-Daly, 21, had his leg amputated after being shot by an Israeli sniper on the first day of the protests and as a result can no longer compete in the upcoming Asian Games. (Reuters)

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April 17

Portal:Current events/2018 April 17

April 17, 2018 (2018-04-17) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Syrian Civil War American-led intervention in the Syrian Civil War U.S. President Donald Trump and his administration are considering replacing the U.S. military forces in Syria with a regional Arab force. (Haaretz) Israeli–Palestinian conflict Memorial Day Israel holds services remembering 23,646 Israeli soldiers and 3,134 civilians killed in the conflict. (The Times of Israel) Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, speaking at a Foreign Ministry ceremony commemorating the nation's sixteen diplomats killed in service, states security services are prepared to foil possible attacks on diplomats by Iran. (The Jerusalem Post) 2018 Gaza border protests Egypt invites rival Palestinian factions Fatah and Hamas to meet in Cairo in a bid to halt violent protests at the Israeli-Gazan border. (i24 News) The names of 3,607 employees of Unit 731, a Japanese military medical experimentation unit associated with war crimes during World War II, are released. Prosecutors in the United States had kept their identities secret following the war in exchange for access to data gleaned from the project. (Newsweek) Terrorism in Spain Eight people go on trial in Navarra, Spain, accused of terrorism after an alleged attack on two Civil Guards in a controversial case with the prosecution seeking a total 375 years imprisonment for the defendants. The defence claims the incident was nothing more than a bar brawl and Amnesty International describes the charges as "inappropriate". (The Local) A grenade explodes in Moyale, Ethiopia, killing three people and injuring dozens. (Africa News) Iraqi insurgency (2017–present) Iraq sentences seven foreign women for links to Islamic State. Three Azerbaijanis and one Kergyz receive death sentences while two Russians and a French women receive life sentences. (Iraqi News) Disasters and accidents Shipwrecks in 2018 Disasters in Indonesia Oil exploration ship MV Ocean Geos catches fire after an explosion on board off Kuala Baram, Indonesia. Of the crew, 37 are evacuated including two injured and one more remains missing. Four firefighting tugs are in attendance. (The New Straits Times) (Offshore Support Journal Online) Tanker ships MT Crystal Sunrise and MT Astro Saturn collide off Singapore, causing damage to both vessels and a butane leak. (Channel NewsAsia) Southwest Airlines Flight 1380 A passenger jet suffers an uncontained engine failure during a flight from LaGuardia Airport in New York City to Dallas Love Field in Dallas, Texas. One passenger is killed. The aircraft diverts to Philadelphia International Airport in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. (BBC) Disasters in Indonesia A bridge linking Babat, Lamongan, and Widang, Tuban, in East Java, Indonesia, collapses. Several vehicles fall into the Bengawan Solo River, killing at least two truckers. (The Sunday Times) Health and environment The European Commission rules Poland's logging operations in the Białowieża Forest, a UNESCO World Heritage site, are a violation of international law. (The Independent) International relations 2018 inter-Korean summit, North Korea–South Korea relations North Korea and South Korea announce that they are planning to officially end the Korean War by writing a peace agreement. An armistice agreement was reached, ending armed conflict, in 1953. U.S. President Donald Trump called the decision to end the war a blessing. (Business Insider), (CBN) 2018 North Korea–United States summit, North Korea–United States relations United States officials state that Director of the Central Intelligence Agency Mike Pompeo met with North Korea leader Kim Jong-un. (WBIR-TV) Law and crime Terrorism in Europe The European Commission announces plans to force tech companies worldwide that provide services within the European Union to supply data on their users in counterterror investigations. (The Guardian) 2018 Berlin anti-semitic attack Two Israeli men wearing kippahs are attacked in Berlin, Germany. (BBC) 8,500 prisoners are granted amnesty in Myanmar by President Win Myint. (Voice of America) Officials announce the arrests in Iraq of two men suspected of plotting terror attacks for Islamic State in Australia. (ABC) Politics and elections Politics of Armenia Amid anti-government protests, Armenia's National Assembly swears in former President Serzh Sargsyan as Prime Minister. The opposition call the move a "power grab". (BBC) Former U.S. First Lady Barbara Bush dies at age 92. (Reuters) Science and technology In Los Angeles, SpaceX announced that they will build a massive rocket named BFR capable of sending humans to Mars. (PC Magazine) New research suggests the Almahata Sitta meteorites are evidence of a lost additional planet in the Solar System. (Science) The lesser long-nosed bat, once on the brink of extinction, is removed from the United States Fish and Wildlife Service list of endangered mammals and birds. It is the first U.S. bat species to officially recover from the imminent threat of extinction. (National Geographic) Sports 2018 Stanley Cup playoffs In ice hockey, the Las Vegas Golden Knights became the first NHL franchise to complete a 4-game sweep in the postseason during their inaugural season after their victory over the Los Angeles Kings. (ESPN)

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Southwest Airlines Flight 1380

Article: Southwest Airlines Flight 1380 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Southwest Airlines Flight 1380 (aircraft pictured) suffers an uncontained engine failure, leading to the death of a passenger. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Mjroots (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jax 0677 (talk · give credit) and Dane (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Right, before you all say "only one person died", this is a highly unusual accident. Yes, uncontained engine failures happen several times a year. However, they do not usually end in fatalities. Article is in good shape, well-formed and well referenced. Mjroots (talk) 04:22, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support Rare freak accident that's in the news and has a decent start of an article. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:45, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Weak support If this was competing for space among several other concurrent blurbs, the accident is not as bad as it could have been and I would not think it appropriate to post it. However, blurbs are slow right now, so this seems like a good story to keep ITN looking fresh, and it is an unusual accident. --Masem (t) 05:35, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Comment correct me if I’m wrong, but if I recall, wasn’t there a similar incident some time back about a year or two ago involving an aircraft in an accident with a single fatality that was posted to ITN? Kirliator (talk) 05:52, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support - Agree with above reasoning. Sherenk1 (talk) 06:52, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose - one person died. Not notable as a result. To say "highly unusual, hence notable" isn't really a tenable argument, viz Man Dies After Getting Head Stuck in Movie Theater Seat. I doubt anyone would say that's worthy of a blurb. Banedon (talk) 09:59, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Weak oppose. A minor accident with few casualties and no broader implications. Weak opposition only because we could do with some turnover in blurbs. Modest Genius ^talk 10:39, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Weak Support excellent article a shining example of what recent disaster articles should look like, certainly actually in the news, since WP:MINIMUMDEATHS is a totally made up nonsense number that doesn't actually exist no problem there ... in terms of the made up "broader implications" requirement, second uncontained engine failure on Southwest 737 in 2 years .... interesting. Weak because I still think we over-post disaster stories. --76.122.98.253 (talk) 10:45, 18 April 2018 (UTC) --LaserLegs (talk) 14:58, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose. An unfortunate accident, but a minor one. No foul play appears to be involved, just a random mechanical failure due in part to worn parts. I don't think the slow news cycle is a sufficient reason to make an exception. ZettaComposer (talk) 10:49, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose - Things like this happen.--WaltCip (talk) 11:02, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

• That seems like a very odd reason for opposing. Do you have any idea how infrequently, in terms of annual passenger journeys? Because I'm sure we'll soon get some activity over at The Twilight Zone. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:40, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose Minor mechanical failure, little impact and virtually no fatality. Not really In the news . –Ammarpad (talk) 11:41, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

• Try virtually telling Jennifer Riordan. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:46, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support First fatality on a US airline since 2009 - these things are fairly rare.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 12:23, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose similar to the nomination made regarding the Youtube Headquarters Shooting earlier this month, this nomination has all ready attracted a number of bias from both sides of the argument, with one side stating this is “unusual” and “major”, while the other arguing that this is “minor” and “short-term”; this is the kind of nomination that spells trouble, especially if it concerns only a single fatality. Python Dan (talk) 12:38, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

• It's not "unusual", it's extremely unusual. And that's not bias, it's just statistics. But as Pawnkingthree, "First fatality on a US airline since 2009" - compare that with.... oh, I don't know, deaths from US gun crime since 2009? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:44, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose per Python Dan, this is an example of when systematic bias put an event at a dangerous level. Besides, as unusual as this accident is in nature, this is nothing more than another aircraft accident. Kirliator (talk) 12:46, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose minor event, if it led to anything changing in the world of aviation it might be of interest, but I can't see that happening, a one-off catastrophic engine failure is just as Martinevans123 notes really, a chance in a million, and with the number of flights per day, there was always going to be a chance it'd happen some time. And it did. This would be a far better candidate for DYK as how well the pilot did getting such a broken aircraft down without further fatalities. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:52, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose per Kirliator and TRM, a minor aircraft accident at best with almost no chance of long-term impact. Hornetzilla78 (talk) 13:05, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support - Southwest Airlines Flight 1380 is a major news story at this time, the first death causing American flight in close to one decade, and should be featured in ITN. --Jax 0677 (talk) 13:13, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

• I can't help feeling it's a major story because of where it happened. But that's true of so much news. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:27, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

• Yep, if this happened anywhere else on planet earth it wouldn't get a sniff, but because it happened in the US (as noted by several supporters) it's more notable. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:32, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

• Right?? We'd never post a rickety Soviet military plane crashing immediately after take-off! --LaserLegs (talk) 13:40, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

• No, we wouldn't, would we? Mjroots (talk) 13:44, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

• Apple and pears. That crash killed 92, not one, and was one of the worst disasters of the year. This is just a minor accident. So no, we wouldn't post a rickety Soviet military plane which had an engine failure and only killed one person, definitely not. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:13, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

• If it was a military plane and the person killed on duty, no we likely wouldn't. If it were a commercial plane and it was a passenger, we'd probably would. Unfortunately, I can't think of any close examples to pull from here and searching ITNC isn't immediately providing any results. --Masem (t) 14:26, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

• No we would not. A Russian aircraft lands after an incident with one fatality? We'd never post it, never. It would be laughed out of ITNC. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:35, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

• Ok then trm just let me know what the minimum deaths are and we're all set. --LaserLegs (talk) 14:49, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

• No, you missed the point again, you're attempting to compare a hull loss with 92 deaths to a minor incident in which one person died. There is no comparison here, and just because it involved Americans and was in America, it doesn't make it more notable, despite what some supporters have said. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:08, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Agreed just because something is not in America does not make it more notable. So just let me know the minimum number of deaths and we're all set. --LaserLegs (talk) 15:18, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

• Time to hat this meaningless and illogical repetition I think! The Rambling Man (talk) 15:20, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose I think we should avoid posting aircraft disasters with low death tolls, otherwise, ITN would be flooded with such nominations. SamaranEmerald (talk) 13:18, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose – Freak accident. Although one passenger died, it has scant broader significance. Sca (talk) 13:43, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

• • The vast majority of low death toll aircraft disasters don't get posted. However, a lack of deaths does not necessarily mean a lack of notability. IMvHO, the unusual circumstances in this case merited a nomination. Mjroots (talk) 13:42, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
    • Also we generally only post commercial aviation incidents or where a larger number of civilians were involved. Incidents involving cargo planes, military planes, and private aircraft typically are not considered ITN with common sense exceptions. --Masem (t) 13:44, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Weak support mostly due to the exceptionally-good article. It is in the news, so it does fit the criteria. Davey2116 (talk) 14:12, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose - minor incident in terms of fatalities. Any lasting notability or impact will arise due to potential changes in airline policy, but to post on these grounds would be a violation of WP:CRYSTAL. If the crash is truly so intriguing, take the (admittedly excellent) article to DYK. Stormy clouds (talk) 14:31, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• (edit conflict) Oppose At the risk of sounding callous, things break and people die. In the grand scheme of things this is a really minor accident. (Thank God.) -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:33, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose as noted above, a minor incident with probably very little lasting impact. Lepricavark (talk) 15:03, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose Airplane accidents are not uncommon, even in the US, and often result in more deaths than this. Though airline accidents are rare in the US, in my opinion that distinction does not increase significant enough for a blurb. Mamyles (talk) 15:33, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

[Posted RD] RD: Barbara Bush

Article: Barbara Bush (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by EternalNomad (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former US First Lady. EternalNomad (talk) 23:46, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

• Strong support. Just confirmed that she has indeed died at the age of 92. I would also weakly support a complete blurb as this is a very significant death given the impact that Mrs. Bush had on many issues and topics. 66.31.81.200 (talk) 23:53, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
• Sadly oppose Such a beautiful and very heartfelt passing, but the article needs source work. I'll wait til the obits come in so fix the article. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 23:56, 17 April 2018 (UTC) Support RD: Article is in okay enough shape for RD posting. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 03:42, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

So 63 standard citations and 5 additional references is still considered “needing source work”? 66.31.81.200 (talk) 23:57, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

When there are unsourced statements, yeah. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:06, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb Not important enough for a blurb. She was a First Lady. She's no Mandela. She's not even a Winnie Mandela. It's almost ready for RD. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:56, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb, Oppose RD, not ready yet. The Rambling Man (talk) 00:00, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose Too many gaps in referencing. I expect this will likely be cleaned up in short order, but we can't post it until it is solidly sourced. FTR I also agree that although very sad, this is not blurb worthy. RD is fine once it is ready. Memory eternal. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:17, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support - Was famous. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 00:33, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb - an important American but not significant enough for her death to be in other than RD. Nancy Reagan was first lady for twice as long and was a little more politically active, and was only in RD, though I think the process was little different then (March 2016). Adpete (talk) 01:08, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support blurb - Well... truly legendary and powerful first lady, who called the shots of TWO U.S. Presidents. --Bruzaholm (talk) 01:18, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support RD. Article is in reasonable shape. Capitalistroadster (talk) 01:19, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose Blurb fails the Thatcher/Mandela test. Oppose RD for now, still some unreferenced content. --LaserLegs (talk) 01:25, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb fails the Thatcher/Graham/Mandela test. Support for RD once sourcing issues are resolved. Lepricavark (talk) 01:36, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support RD but unsure about blurb. It's very sad, and it's certainly significant as she was the only first lady to watch her son become president, but her influence was limited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrendonTheWizard (talk • contribs) 22:31, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
  • She was not the only First Lady whose son became POTUS. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:50, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
    • To be fair, he did specify that Bush watch[ed] her son become president; Adams died before her son ascended to the office. Of course, that's a minor distinction and doesn't really mean much as far as blurb worthiness (blurbiness?) is concerned. Lepricavark (talk) 03:40, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
    • Yes, I was referring specifically to witnessing it, but as I specified in my original post I still don't support a blurb. She lacked real influence outside of the US as I said, unlike figures such as Nelson Mandela or more recently Stephen Hawking which absolutely deserved blurbs. BrendonTheWizard (talk) 14:21, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Posted RD but discussion of a blurb can continue (though I don't think I see consensus). FWIW, to TRM and Muboshgu, I checked the state of the article when you !voted, and I believe gaps in sourcing have been sufficiently covered, hence posting. --Masem (t) 03:46, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Indeed, the article was improved by the time you posted it. – Muboshgu (talk) 13:42, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Post-posting support, and also weak support blurb. I kind of wish that RD allowed a five-word description of the deceased individual; in that case I wouldn't support a blurb at all. Davey2116 (talk) 04:04, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• RD is fine, no reason to make this a blurb. Indeed, I don't see any nomination of one. Modest Genius ^talk 10:41, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose Blurb I don’t think her impact is notable enough to Warren a blurb, we don’t want to be US-centric. Hornetzilla78 (talk) 13:12, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

[Ready] RD: Carl Kasell

Article: Carl Kasell (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NPR
Credits:

• Nominated by Davey2116 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Long-time American broadcaster for NPR dies at 84. Sourcing needs work. Davey2116 (talk) 23:06, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support One unsourced statement of questionable encyclopedic importance (a mistaken death report in 2014) that I removed, and everything else is good to good here. --Masem (t) 03:50, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support Well sourced. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:04, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support Looks ready to me.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 15:02, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

RD: Matthew Mellon

Article: Matthew Mellon (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by The Rambling Man (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 The Rambling Man (talk) 18:07, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support - sufficiently referenced. There's one tagged sentence, but it can be deleted if a citation can't be found. -Zanhe (talk) 04:00, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Weak support - Short, but very well sourced. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:05, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support - referenced and ready for posting.BabbaQ (talk) 15:04, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support I've dealt with that CN tag, should be good to go now.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 15:08, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

RD: Big Tom

Article: Big Tom (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Sherenk1 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Inexorable Existence (talk · give credit) and Fernandosmission (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Irish country music star. Referencing issues. Sherenk1 (talk) 13:03, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose not just reference issues, but the article is a complete mess. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:06, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose Awful article. Zero biographical information on his life before the year 2000, and the rest is just a bunch of tables.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 13:13, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose Sadly, article would need an almost complete rewrite before being main page ready. --Jayron32 13:52, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

April 16

Portal:Current events/2018 April 16

April 16, 2018 (2018-04-16) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Terrorism in Israel Petah Tikva resident Zohar Zuaretz is indicted on counterterror charges for far right social media posts in which he spoke of killing Arabs. (The Times of Israel) Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman declares the Iliya Institute, a Jerusalem community centre, to be a terror organisation operating on behalf of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine. (The Jerusalem Post) Terrorism in Malaysia Malaysia announces the arrest of six alleged Islamic State members accused of plotting to abduct and murder police and assault places of worship. Authorities appeal for information on four more suspects. (Channel NewsAsia) Syrian Civil War Russia denies interfering with the site of a chemical weapons attack in Douma, Syria, and says a nine-member Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons team currently waiting in Damascus will be allowed to visit on Wednesday. (BBC) Syrian state media SANA reports that the Syrian Air Defense Force has intercepted several missiles fired at Shayrat Airbase in the Homs Governorate. The U.S. denies any involvement. (Haaretz) 2018 Gaza border protests Israel announces sanctions on the owners of fourteen bus companies, and their families, in response to the firms transporting Palestinian protestors to the Gaza-Israel border. (The Washington Post) Arts and culture 2018 Pulitzer Prize The annual Pulitzer Prizes, which celebrate US journalism, are awarded. The New York Times wins the most with three. Pieces on Donald Trump and the #MeToo movement feature prominently. (The Guardian) Disasters and accidents Grenfell Tower fire A leaked draft report by fire investigators BRS Global for the Metropolitan Police reveals new details of mistakes in the construction and refurbishment of Grenfell Tower in London. As well as flammable cladding the report finds errors in window and cavity installation. It concludes the fire would have not spread beyond a single flat and all 71 victims would have survived had refurbishment not been performed, and that victims may also have survived had they sought refuge behind fire doors protecting waste chute rooms on each floor. (The Evening Standard) (The Independent) (The Evening Standard) Disasters in Indonesia A warehouse in Cirebon, Indonesia, collapses onto a neighbouring arts centre where teenagers were preparing for a dance show. At least seven people die, six of them children. (The Straits Times) The Indonesia People's Representative Council convenes a meeting to discuss the ongoing oil spill in Balikpapan Bay, East Kalimantan. (Tempo) Shipping accidents in 2018 An initial report on a collision between container ships MV Tolten and MV Hamburg Bay near Karachi, Pakistan, that caused millions of rupees in damage and lost cargo last month suggests errors by MV Toltens captain caused the collision and better tug provision by Karachi Port would have prevented it. (Geo) Firefighters reopen the sealed Korean fishing ship FV Dong Won 701 in the Port of Timaru, New Zealand, in a bid to finally extinguish the fire that broke out on April 9. (NZCity.co.nz) Railway accidents in 2018 Four elephants are killed after being hit by a freight train near a Bagadihi Forest Range area in Jharsuguda district in the Indian state of Odisha. (The Tribune Chandigarh) Health and environment An international team researching a plastic-consuming bacterium discovered in 2016 at a Japanese landfill site announce the accidental synthesis of an artificial enzyme that breaks down plastics more efficiently than the bacterium. The team suggest the molecule could be used for environmentally sound plastics disposal. (The Guardian) International relations 2018 inter-Korean summit South Korea is expected to open a press center and online platform in preparations for the summit with North Korea. (The Korean Herald) The summit is expected to set the tone for the North Korea–United States summit later this year. (Yonhap News Agency) Law and crime Crime in India Eight people, including a juvenile and a caretaker for a local temple, go on trial in Kathua, Jammu and Kashmir, accused of abducting an eight-year-old girl, keeping her captive, sexually abusing her, and murdering her in a high-profile case that has already been the subject of nationwide protests and pretrial Supreme Court proceedings. (The Times of India) Former President of Andalusia and ex-Deputy Prime Minister of Spain Manuel Chaves González declares before the court as a key figure in the ERE corruption scandal. (El País) A judge in Ragusa, Sicily, Italy, orders the release of a Proactiva Open Arms migrant search and rescue ship detained in Pozzallo since arriving there on March 18 carrying over 200 migrants rescued from the Mediterranean Sea. Catania prosecutors requested the Spanish ship's detention alleging involvement in illegal immigration after Proactiva refused to hand the migrants over to Libya. (A.N.S.A.) Police clash with KKE protestors in Athens, Greece, firing tear gas as the crowd uses angle grinders in an attempt to topple a statue of former U.S. President Harry Truman in response to the United States' airstrikes in Syria. Three protestors are injured. (eKathimerini) South Carolina authorities announce that a riot yesterday at the Lee Correctional Institution in Bishopville, Lee County, killed seven inmates and wounded seventeen others. (The Guardian) Terrorism in Turkey, Turkey–United States relations U.S. pastor Andrew Brunson goes on trial in Turkey facing espionage and terrorism charges that carry a maximum prison term of 35 years. (ABC News) List of journalists killed in Russia Russian investigative journalist Maxim Borodin falls from a window in Yekaterinburg and dies. Local officials say the death is non-suspicious but Novy Dens chief editor and international monitor OSCE both say he may have been murdered. (BBC) The Holocaust German prosecutors charge an unidentified 94-year-old ex-Auschwitz guard with aiding and abetting 13,335 murders when he was nineteen. (BBC) Science and technology Explorers program SpaceX's scheduled launch of NASA's Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite (TESS) from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station is delayed until April 18. TESS is designed to search for exoplanets using the transit method and is 400 times more powerful than the Kepler space observatory. (BBC) China's People's Liberation Army says the nation's J-10C fighter jets have entered combat service. (Xinhua) Bombardier announces an increase in range for the Global 7000 business aircraft to 7,700 nautical miles, surpassing the Gulfstream G650 as the longest-range private jet. (The Montreal Gazette) Archaeologists announce the discovery of a treasure haul potentially linked to 10th Century Danish King Harald Bluetooth in Rügen, Germany. The initial finds were made by amateur treasure hunters in January and the total haul is the largest of its type. (BBC) Sports 2018 Boston Marathon Desiree "Desi" Linden becomes the first American woman to win the Boston Marathon in 33 years. For the men's division, Yuki Kawauchi of Japan became the first Japanese person to win since 1987. (USA Today)

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RD: Choi Eun-hee

Article: Choi Eun-hee (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Sherenk1 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: South Korean actress. Referencing issues. Sherenk1 (talk) 07:09, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose as noted in the nom, films and awards completely unreferenced. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:55, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

  Support good work by [[User:|]]. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:49, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support I have made numerous edits to the article since yesterday and added references for films and awards. Lenoresm (talk) 14:47, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support Looks good to go.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 15:01, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

[Posted] RD: Harry Anderson

Article: Harry Anderson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NBCNews
Credits:

• Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Unfortunately weak in sourcing. Masem (t) 02:05, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support I fixed the sourcing issue. Now it is well sourced. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 03:55, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Confirming that the sourcing has been significantly improved since I nominated it. --Masem (t) 03:56, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support : I see that. And that is a good work. TDKR Chicago. –Ammarpad (talk) 04:04, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 04:09, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

[Removed] Remove from ongoing: Rif Dimashq offensive (February–April 2018)

Article: Rif Dimashq offensive (February–April 2018) (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item removal (Post)

Nominator's comments: I propose to remove the Rif Dimashq offensive (February–April 2018) article from the main page "ongoing" section. First, the offensive is essentially complete, with the government declaring two days ago that the locale was fully liberated, and I don't see that any reliable sources are debating this; indeed reliable sources agree the locale is under full government control. Secondly, the article itself has not received any substantive updates since April 14 either. Thirdly, there is already a blurb describing both the chemical attack and the response, which seem to be where the story has migrated, seeing as the offensive itself has ended. Given those three things, we should think about taking this off of "ongoing". --Jayron32 16:02, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support removal per nominator. Stormy clouds (talk) 19:05, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support –No longer "ongoing". Do the needful. –Ammarpad (talk) 20:11, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• Removed Stephen 22:51, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Boston Marathon

Articles: 2018 Boston Marathon (talk · history · tag) and Desiree Linden (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Yuki Kawauchi and Desiree Linden win the 2018 Boston Marathon. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Desiree Linden becomes the first American woman in 33 years to win the Boston Marathon.
News source(s): NYTimes
Credits:

• Nominated by Cellodont (talk · give credit)

Article updated
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: big news for American atheletics, 2nd American woman to win a major American marathon this year Cellodont (talk) 19:32, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

• Comment Not to change too much from Cellodont's submission, but as the Boston Marathon is an ITNR, I've refactors this to be more to this point. I would comment that we generally do not focus to much on the first X of a nation to win this type of event (We're a global work), but we certainly can ID the winners, and if either article is in good shape, can make them secondary targets. I will note the Marathon article needs prose before this can be posted. --Masem (t) 19:37, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• comment I totally agree with the new blurb, go for it. Hope someone gets this done soon, it's relevant/great news for Japan, for the USA, and everybody, really.Cellodont (talk) 20:01, 16 April 2018 (UTC)cellodont
• Oppose Classic example of stub. Mere rephrasing of news piece. This needs non trivial work and lot of actual encylopeic prose before even considering judging its quality. At present, this is unpresentable in every respect. –Ammarpad (talk) 20:07, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• comment good point. The 2018 boston marathon article has all the salient info on the race that anyone in the future is likely to be looking for, but it's not exactly a good read as a redirect from the front page. this is big news, though....maybe the blurb should point primarily to Kawauchi's and Linden's Wikipedia articles, and secondarily to the little stub? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cellodont (talk • contribs) 20:15, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose It's a stub. A sporting event needs to do better than that. Black Kite (talk) 23:18, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose nowhere near ready. The Rambling Man (talk) 23:24, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

April 15

Portal:Current events/2018 April 15

April 15, 2018 (2018-04-15) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Poisoning of Yulia and Sergei Skripal UK Leader of the Opposition Jeremy Corbyn of Labour asks to see "incontrovertible evidence" before accepting Russia was responsible. Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson responds, saying it is "quite extraordinary" to question Russian involvement. (BBC News) Afghanistan–Pakistan skirmishes Afghan and Pakistani forces exchange cross-border fire on the Durand Line, killing two Pakistan Army troops and injuring five others. (Voice of America) Sinai insurgency ISIL claims responsibility for an attack on a military base in the Sinai peninsula, Egypt, yesterday that killed eight soldiers and injured fifteen. The Egyptian Military said 14 militants were killed in the attack. (The Washington Post) 2018 Gaza border protests Gazans launch a kite carrying a firebomb over the Israeli border near Kibbutz Kissufim, starting a fire in a field. It is the fourth such incident this week. Local authorities alert residents to be vigilant for potential repeat attacks. (The Times of Israel) Iraqi insurgency (2017–present) A car bomb in Kirkuk, Iraq, kills and injures several civilians. The blast follows a bombing at Hor Rajab, Baghdad, earlier in the day that wounded one civilian. (Iraqi News) Israel Defense Forces announce the destruction of a Gaza-Israel tunnel thought to belong to Hamas, with Defence Minister Avigdor Liberman claiming it to be the longest tunnel found to date. (Jerusalem Online) Militants disguised as United Nations troops attack two military bases near Timbuktu, Mali, using rockets and two car bombs. At least one soldier at the bases, used by France and the UN, is killed and more than twelve others are wounded. (BBC News) Russia sends landing ship Nikolai Filchenkov, chartered civilian vessel MV Alexander Tkachenko, and transport ship Orsk to Syria laden with military equipment. (Metro) Arts and culture Destruction of cultural heritage by ISIL Deputy tourism and antiquities minister Qais Hussein Rashid unveils a United Nations-brokered plan for "re-constructing touristic, archaeological and heritage sites" damaged by ISIL in Mosul. (Iraqi News) Prominent New York LGBT and environmental lawyer David Buckel commits suicide by setting himself on fire with petrol in Prospect Park. He leaves and circulates a suicide note indicating his death is in protest against the use of fossil fuels. (BBC News) Theology of Pope Francis Pope Francis comforts a crying boy in San Paolo della Croce, Rome, by telling him his recently-deceased father, an atheist, will have ascended to heaven on the basis his father had "a good heart". (A.N.S.A.) Disasters and accidents Shipwrecks in 2018 Fire and Emergency New Zealand announce they hope the fire aboard Korean ship FV Dong Won 701 is extinguished seven days after catching light in the Port of Timaru, New Zealand. Firefighters say they plan to board the vessel tomorrow to confirm. (Stuff) 2017–18 Australian bushfire season A state of emergency is declared in New South Wales, Australia, as a bushfire continues to burn out of control. More than 500 personnel from the New South Wales Rural Fire Service, Fire and Rescue NSW and the Australian Defence Force are tackling the bushfire, which has torn through the Holsworthy Barracks and threatens the suburbs of Sydney. (The Guardian) 2017 M1 motorway crash The UK Department of Transport rejects a call by road safety campaign NGO Brake for tougher legislation on licencing for commercial drivers in response to a crash that killed eight last year. (BBC News) Health and environment Rose Acre Farms recalls around 207 million eggs from a farm in North Carolina after 22 people fell ill with suspected Salmonella braenderup. It is the largest recall of eggs in the United States since 2010. (Reuters) Former U.S. First Lady Barbara Bush declines further medical treatment for serious ongoing health issues. (KFOR-TV) International relations Syria–United States relations, 2018 bombing of Damascus and Homs U.S. President Donald Trump warns Syria's government that the U.S. is "locked and loaded" to strike again if Syria were to carry out new chemical attacks. (BBC News) Bangladesh–Tajikistan relations Tajikistan foreign minister Sirodjidin Aslov meets with Bangladesh State Minister of Foreign Affairs Shahriar Alam. (Bdnews24.com) 2018 Arab League summit The Arab League summits in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, their first meeting since the Qatar diplomatic crisis, focused on Jerusalem and Iran. (Al Jazeera) Law and crime Israeli authorities release 207 African migrants from Saharonim Prison after a Supreme Court ruling ordering their release amid deportation negotiations. The migrants had refused to leave the country voluntarily. (The Times of Israel) An improvised explosive device damages a shopfront in Limassol, Cyprus. (The Cyprus Mail) A court in Somaliland jails poet Nacima Qorane for three years for bringing the state into contempt by writing a poem calling for reunification with Somalia. (BBC) Hundreds of ultra-Orthodox Jews riot outside the Israel Defense Forces draft office in Jerusalem after rumours emerge of a female draft dodger being arrested in Har Nof. Police open fire with water cannons and stun grenades. (The Times of Israel) Inmates at E Wing of HMYOI Aylesbury in Buckinghamshire, England, riot, injuring four prison officers. A woman claiming to be an inmate's partner says the riot was in response to the inmates being housed en masse in solitary confinement without association with other prisoners for at least a week. (BBC News) Turkmenistan bans the import of bikinis, shorts, and swimsuits. (RadioFreeEurope / Radio Liberty) Boston Marathon bombing Boston marks the fifth anniversary of the April 2013 bombing with a private ceremony inside the Boston Public Library. The bells at a local church rang at 2:49 p.m. to mark the exact time the two bombs exploded seconds apart near the marathon's finish line. (AP News) Politics and elections Politics of Guatemala Guatemalan territorial dispute referendum, 2018 Millions of Guatemalans are summoned to participate in a referendum in which they will determine if they submit to the International Court of Justice the territorial, insular and maritime dispute with Belize. (teleSUR) The election of the candidates for Attorney General of Guatemala and successor of Thelma Aldana has concluded and 14 candidates have obtained the necessary qualifications to participate. President Jimmy Morales will appoint the Attorney General in the coming days. (teleSUR) Montenegrin presidential election, 2018 The Presidential election begins in Montenegro, with Milo Đukanović of the hegemonic Democratic Party of Socialists of Montenegro and independent candidate Mladen Bojanić being the favorites in the polls. (Foreign Brief) 2017–18 Spanish constitutional crisis, Catalan independentism 315,000 demonstrators in Barcelona demand the freedom of jailed separatist leaders and freedom of speech. (The Guardian) Efforts to impeach Donald Trump Former FBI Director James Comey doesn’t believe Donald Trump should be impeached, despite saying that he’s “morally unfit” to be president. (CNN) Science and technology Asteroid close approaches to Earth in 2018 An asteroid, 2018 GE3, sized between 37 and 138 metres (121 and 453 ft) passes 193,000 kilometres (120,000 mi) from Earth, possibly the largest known asteroid to ever pass that close in observational history. (Minor Planet Center) Another asteroid, 2018 GY3, which had passed 301,000 kilometres (187,000 mi) from Earth on April 10, is identified as the lost asteroid 2008 GY21, which had passed similarly close to Earth in 2008. (Minor Planet Center) Scientists say that they have identified genes that cause deadly heart condition pulmonary arterial hypertension which kills 50% of those affected within five years. (BBC News) USS Portland, a new United States naval ship costing $1.6 billion, arrives and docks in Portland, Oregon, ahead of being formally commissioned later this month. (KGW) Sports Athletics at the 2018 Commonwealth Games – Men's marathon Scottish athlete Callum Hawkins collapses twice and strikes his head. Journalists, fellow athletes, and Commonwealth Games Scotland criticise a delay in him receiving medical assistance. (The Telegraph) (BBC Sport) (Herald Scotland) 2017–18 Premier League Football team Manchester United lose 1-0 to West Brom, handing rivals Manchester City the Premier League title. (BBC Sport) 2018 NBA Playoffs The Indiana Pacers defeat the Cleveland Cavaliers 98–80 in Game 1 of their Eastern Conference first-round series in Cleveland, snapping LeBron James' personal streak of 21 consecutive wins in the first round. (The Star)

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[Posted] RD: Hadassa Ben-Itto

Article: Hadassa Ben-Itto (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Israeli author. Article reasonably comprehensive and sourcing appears OK - Dumelow (talk) 20:06, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support - well referenced article, although the source spells her name as Ben-Ato. -Zanhe (talk) 22:43, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support looks adequate. The Rambling Man (talk) 23:25, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 00:06, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

RD: R. Lee Ermey

Article: R. Lee Ermey (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): THR
Credits:

• Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Masem (t) 23:32, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Unfortunately, there are gaps in sourcing here. --Masem (t) 23:34, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose Indeed. Huge swathes of unreferenced text and the filmography will need sourcing too. --Pawnkingthree (talk) 00:19, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose for Referencing - I support on principle as he is an extremely well known actor, but have to oppose due to large amounts of unsourced information. UNSC Luke 1021 (talk) 00:29, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support Subject to improvement. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 06:45, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• A reminder that supports on principle are not useful as quality is the only thing that matters for a recent death posting Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:54, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose maintenance tag needs to be addressed. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:15, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support Sourcing problems appear to be corrected. KVWS 18:53, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

No, it's not there yet. Personal life section tagged, still lots of citations needed in the acting career.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 19:20, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

[Posted] RD: Judy Kennedy

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Article: Judy Kennedy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Times Record Herald
Credits:

• Nominated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article updated and well sourced --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:35, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose based on notability concerns. A mayor of a population 28k town, the article was created today, and the refs are entirely local and largely obits. power~enwiki (π, ν) 23:35, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
• @Power~enwiki:: We've had articles that were created on the day of or before being nominated (David Buckel for example) yet they are in sufficient length and well sourced. As for the sourcing, local or obits, they are still reliable and serve as reliable citations for the article. Nobility is not a reason to oppose an article, I thought it was if the article was well sourced and in sufficient length. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 23:48, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Being notable is generally a necessary requirement to have a standalone article. If there are doubts about notability due to only local sources, that's a problem. --Masem (t) 01:15, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
    • This isn't the forum for determining notability. @Power~enwiki:, either you could nominate it for deletion, or you should not object based on that. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:42, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support This is not really the place for a notability discussion but she would appear to meet criteria 2 of WP:POLITICIAN as a “major local political figure who has received significant press coverage.” The article is sufficiently detailed and the referencing looks fine. Pawnkingthree (talk) 00:50, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• Weak support the article won't win any awards, but it's sufficiently referenced and meets our minimum requirements. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:16, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose on notability. We've established that new articles do not receive the benefit of assumed notability because there has been no time for editors to consider it. WP:POLITICIAN says that statewide office holders have notability, but local officials only qualify if they are "major" and have "received significant press coverage." There is zero evidence provided here to this end. ghost 16:27, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose per established precedence regarding notability on RD. Recently created articles formed as a result of an obit tend to be of questionable standard.--WaltCip (talk) 18:03, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

• If there is "established precedence" for this then it needs to be added to WP:ITNRD in my opinion. I see there was a discussion about this a couple of months ago, but it's still not entirely clear where we stand now. Are we saying an article created recently must undergo a notability discussion before it gets posted to RD?--Pawnkingthree (talk) 19:51, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• @WaltCip: See the nom for Yang Gui down the page, a posthumously created article that we just posted. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:13, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

• Yang Gui wasn't deleted. The Rambling Man (talk) 23:29, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

• Yang Gui wasn't nominated for deletion. Neither has this article. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:33, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose newly created article has not been touched enough to know whether it can withstand notability test, as they are essential orbits synthesis. Wikipedia should not be solely memorialising people on mainpage and later delete the article because of notability. –Ammarpad (talk) 18:41, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support - if anyone questions the person's notability, they should just go ahead and nominate it for AfD. Otherwise it should be presumed notable and judged on quality alone, which is certainly good enough. -Zanhe (talk) 23:00, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support meets all of our criteria, especially as there is no "posthumous creation" exclusion for RD. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:14, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose I have no idea whether she's notable or not, especially as our editors can't decide on how big a town has to be for it's mayor to be notable (honestly, the AfDs are all over the place), but I'm working on the basis that anyone from the Western world who didn't have an article prior to dying probably wasn't notable, and I don't see any coverage that isn't local anyway. Black Kite (talk) 23:22, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• Comment the only existing reason this individual wouldn't be a candidate for RD is that she has no article. So the opposers need to AFD it, or cancel. The Rambling Man (talk) 23:29, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support per Muboshgu. Not sure why this hasn't been posted yet, it fits all the RD criteria. (And isn't holding elective office generally notable enough to have an article?) The oppose !voters should bring it to talk instead of here. Davey2116 (talk) 00:01, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 00:16, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
• Retroactive strong Oppose The idea that a less than 1-term mayor of a municipality of less than 28,000 people is sufficiently notable for inclusion on RD is patently absurd. I have seen former heads of state passed over for RD for less. The entry should be taken down posthaste, right now this appears to be nothing short of a gross violation of WP:BIAS. --Varavour (talk) 16:50, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

  Varavour We post all RDs whose quality is sufficient. Perhaps the "former heads of state" you saw "passed over" had poor quality articles. If you believe that this individual isn't worthy of an article, that's a different discussion, and you can start that at WP:AFD. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:54, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

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[Posted] RD: Frank Skartados

Article: Frank Skartados (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Poughkeepsie Journal
Credits:

• Nominated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Deor (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article updated and well sourced --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 19:07, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

• Weak support not brilliant but good enough, referenced enough, ok. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:06, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support Looks ready to me -- BobTheIP editing as 92.29.28.146 (talk) 20:22, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Support Per above; good article, well referenced.  Nixinova  T  C  03:22, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support; as noted on the article talk page I was acquainted with him (and, indeed, I took the picture). Daniel Case (talk) 03:41, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• Posted. 331dot (talk) 08:11, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

English Premier League

Article: 2017–18 Premier League (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In association football, Manchester City win the English Premier League. (Post)
News source(s): Guardian, BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Yorkshiresky (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: City's fifth title. yorkshiresky (talk) 18:55, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose needs a prose summary. Right now the only prose is about sleeve sponsorship and who was promoted and relegated last season Harambe Walks (talk) 19:12, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
• Comment do we have an EPL article which has a suitable summary? I would find it quite a challenge to summarise hundreds and hundreds of matches adequately... We don't demand that of Superbowl or MLB articles because they have playoffs and finals, so applying it to a nine-month long season with hundreds of matches seems odd, particularly as, by the nature of this ITN nom, any summary will focus on Man City and ignore the rest of the division. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:02, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

• 2017–18 Manchester City F.C. season is a possibility —LukeSurl ^{t c} 20:51, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support a few missing refs about arm band sponsors but I don't care. Going forward, it might be nice to bold the winning teams season article. [1] is a good example -- minus the referencing issues. 2015–16 Premier League has a summary, but generally agree with TRM above. --LaserLegs (talk) 20:54, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
• Question I honestly do not know, is this "in the news" now that Man City has clinched it or in May when all the games have been played? What matters more to fans, the "winner" or the conclusion of the season? --LaserLegs (talk) 21:02, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

  It's news now. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:03, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose Needs at least a basic prose summary of the season. Doesn't need much, a paragraph or two summing up the season would suffice. It doesn't even need to be cited. If this is met you can consider this a support. AIRcorn (talk) 22:46, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Added a very basic prose summary. It is hard to cover all possibilities as every other position could still change before the end of the season. It would also be a pretty boring read if we did. However it is just enough and comparable to other sports articles that have been featured. AIRcorn (talk) 23:26, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
• Weak oppose Very list-y.  Nixinova  T  C  03:28, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• I thought we established that league champions are posted at the end of the competition, not at the point of clinching (see Six Nations last month)? I actually prefer the latter, but we should be consistent. ghost 12:12, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• Comment: ITNR explicitly states that events are posted at the conclusion of the tournament, not when leads become unassailable. Given that the Premier League is the only domestic competition on there, we shouldn't have a problem of them all finishing at once. It's unclear to me whether it's better to wait or to post now, but the rules as written are to wait until the final game has been played and all positions are resolved. Modest Genius ^talk 12:19, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

FYI: I've enter a nomination to change the rule over at ITNR. ghost 16:37, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

• Comment Yes, City are champions, but let's post it when the season is over, because at the moment the article isn't complete. Black Kite (talk) 23:24, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
• The EPL is generally posted when the champions are known (see 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016 postings), provided a season summary is given (see 2017 nomination) - like in motorsport articles. Of course, consensus can change in this or following cases. Fuebaey (talk) 15:12, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

RD: Kenneth Matiba

Article: Kenneth Matiba (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Ammarpad (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Deor (talk · give credit)

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Nominator's comments: Kenyan politician. Article is not that great (as usual) but it is sufficient. –Ammarpad (talk) 18:09, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose as very poorly referenced BLP. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:53, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose Needs work on sourcing. Pawnkingthree (talk) 20:57, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

RD: Vittorio Taviani

Article: Paolo and Vittorio Taviani (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Sherenk1 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by AleCapHollywood (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Referencing issues. Italian film-maker. Sherenk1 (talk) 12:58, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose I'm going to say right off the bat that I don't mind him only being half an article, but I do mind most of it being unreferenced. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:24, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose Barely any references at all. Pawnkingthree (talk) 00:23, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

[Posted] RD: Walter Fink

Article: Walter Fink (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:41, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support, well-sourced article. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:44, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support good enough. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:23, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
• Posted. Espresso Addict (talk) 16:40, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

2018 Grand National

Article: 2018 Grand National (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Tiger Roll wins the Grand National horse race. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Tiger Roll wins the Grand National horse race in the event's smallest field since 1999.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In horse racing, Tiger Roll wins the Grand National
News source(s): Sportinglife
Credits:

• Nominated by Ammarpad (talk · give credit)
• Updated by MaxBrowne (talk · give credit) and Mobile mundo (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 –Ammarpad (talk) 07:00, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

• Weak support ITN/R, C-class article, looks okay.  Nixinova  T  C  07:22, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
• Needs references for summary and all tables. Stephen 07:37, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose per Stephen plus no actual prose about the race itself. Nowhere near close. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:15, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose. Sports are not news of any significance, particularly obscure ones such as horse racing. Sandstein 16:46, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

  Another pointed and irrelevant comment; this is ITNR, so if you object to its inclusion on notability grounds, do something about it there rather than make such unhelpful comments here. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:50, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

• (ec) OK, to my surprise, WP:ITNSPORTS does seem to assume that sports and this horse race are relevant news stories, but on the other hand this is just silly, so I'm abstaining from sports ITNs from now on. Sandstein 16:52, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

• Good to know. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:54, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
• The horse races at ITNR are very arbitrary. Nothing egregious, but many more prestigious races (Ascot, Preakness, Dubai WC) missing. Oppose this on the lack of refs. 75.188.224.208 (talk) 18:49, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

I don't know about this race but 150,000 people gather to watch the Kentucky Derby, a two minute race, live every year. hardly "obscure". One man's "obscure" event is another's most important. 331dot (talk) 19:34, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Well, given this horse race is held in "little old England" with a population of around a sixth or less of the United States, and according to the Financial Times, the 2016 race (for instance) had " 70,000 spectators and a global television audience of 600m". So anyone trying to make any point about this being obscure, or not amongst the most viewed or most relevant to our readers is clearly not in touch with the reality of the situation, assuming we believe what at least one reliable source is telling us. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:52, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

• Comment had to orange tag race overview section. --LaserLegs (talk) 20:59, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
• Why doesn't the horse have a standalone article?--WaltCip (talk) 12:19, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

  Someone created a stub. I've added altblurb2. Modest Genius ^talk 12:23, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

• The orange tag seems to have been addressed. Marking ready. Modest Genius ^talk 10:15, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

  I don't know who removed the Ready, but just taking a look, where is the prize money breakdown referenced? I can find plenty of sources to back up the finishing order etc, but not the prizes. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:01, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

  In fact, this primary source seems to contradict the information currently in the table, so that's a problem. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:03, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

  The prize quoted there look like the 2017 figures and I'm not sure that's a primary source - this one is the race's official website [3]. I've added a citation to the Racing Post result which confirms the finishing order and prize money. --Bcp67 (talk) 20:00, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

  Are we really holding this up for a minor disagreement regarding the source for a trivial part of the article? Just delete that column if it's problematic; the article hardly needs it. Modest Genius ^talk 12:55, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

April 14

Portal:Current events/2018 April 14

April 14, 2018 (2018-04-14) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Syrian Civil War 2018 bombing of Damascus and Homs The United States, France, and the United Kingdom target chemical weapon sites and other Syrian military sites with missile strikes on early Saturday morning Syrian time (EET), in response to the Douma chemical attack. (The Washington Post) (BBC) Russia calls for an emergency meeting of the United Nations Security Council as it considers supplying S-300 missile systems to Syria. (Reuters) 2018 Gaza border protests An explosion near the Israel–Gaza border fence kills at least four Palestinians. Hamas says terrorists from Islamic Jihad were killed. Locals claim the explosion was from the Israeli Defence Forces shelling Hamas. Israel denies any involvement. (The Times of Israel) The Palestinian Authority says an Egyptian delegation presently visiting Gaza City has asked Hamas to call off the Great March of Return. (The Times of Israel) Israeli forces shoot and wound a Palestinian near Khan Younis. Local medical personnel report he has a bullet lodged in his head. (wafa) Palestine Liberation Organization Executive Committee Member Hanan Ashrawi calls for international intervention to "protect Palestinians". (wafa) War in Afghanistan (2001–present) The Taliban destroy an electricity pylon in Doshe, Baghlan, Afghanistan, overnight. The pylon carries imported power from Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, and its destruction causes widespread blackouts across several provinces and in capital Kabul. (Tolo News) An explosion strikes a major weapons depot linked to Hezbollah and Iran in Mount Azzan, near Aleppo, Syria. Local media and Sky News reports an unidentified jet attacked the site, possibly as part of Western coalition airstrikes in the region, but al-Mayadeen denies any airstrike happened and said controlled explosions were carried out at the site yesterday. (The Times of Israel) Terrorism in Egypt The Egyptian military says 14 terrorists attacked a Sinai military base today, with four of them blowing themselves up and killing eight soldiers. (Egypt Today) Yemen accuses Iran of arming Houthi rebels with drones in violation of United Nations sanctions to allow the militants to launch attacks on Saudi Arabia. Iran supports the Houthis but denies arming them. (The Daily Star) A civilian vehicle hits an unexploded landmine in Arsal, Lebanon. Three occupants die. (The Daily Star) Disasters and accidents A storm blasts central US with heavy snow, winds, and hail, forcing flight cancellations, creating treacherous road conditions and killing at least three people. (ABC News) The US Navy concludes its investigation into the October crash of a T-45C Goshawk military training jet in Tennessee that killed both on board, concluding pilot error caused the accident. (Navy Times) Law and crime The Court of Cassation in Egypt upholds life sentences for three Muslim Brotherhood leaders including Mohamed Badie and five-year terms for fourteen others. (The Daily Star) Terrorism in Iraq The Islamic State ambushes a member of al-Hashd al-Shaabi on Neft Khana road, near Khanqeen, northeast of Baquba, Iraq. The militants execute him. (Iraqi News) Politics and elections UK Independence Party leadership election, 2018 Gerard Batten is elected unopposed as the leader of the UK Independence Party, having been interim leader of the party since previous leader Henry Bolton was overthrown in a vote of no confidence in February. (Sky News) Science and technology March for Science 2018 A second March for Science is held with various rallies happening internationally. (Mother Jones) Sports 2018 NBA Playoffs The first round of the 2018 NBA Playoffs begins. (Yahoo! Sports)

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[Closed] RD: Hal Greer

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Article: Hal Greer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): USA Today
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Died April 14, but not announced until April 16, so should it go there? Anyway, the article is far from postable now and may not get there in time. I'll aim for DYK if I can't get it here. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:08, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose referencing issues. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:09, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

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[Posted] RD: David Buckel

Article: David Buckel (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Pawnkingthree (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Prominent LGBT rights lawyer. Article created after death but I don’t think notability is an issue here. Pawnkingthree (talk) 19:50, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

• Weak support article is okay, notability does seem mostly about the death, but there's probably just enough there otherwise to allow it. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:55, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support Well sourced article with sufficient length for a newly created one. Well done. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:01, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support I wish new noms would get consistently added at the top. Would make life much easier. -- BobTheIP editing as 92.29.28.146 (talk) 20:25, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
• Posted. Espresso Addict (talk) 09:52, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

[Closed] Ongoing: Reactions to the poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal

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Article: Reactions to the poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by 2.28.13.227 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Receiving daily updates in the news for weeks 2.28.13.227 (talk) 15:19, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose Only a few edits since the first few days of April, and no new diplomatic expulsions have occurred this month. Teemu08 (talk) 15:33, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose not really "ongoing". And this has been posted over and over to the extent it is now banal story. –Ammarpad (talk) 17:57, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Strongest oppose These cruft filled "reactions to" articles are a blight on Wikipedia. And there aren't significant updates meriting ongoing. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:19, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Strong oppose This was ages ago and is mostly finished.  Nixinova  T  C  20:22, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Strong oppose and would suggest merging/deletion of that article back to the main topic. "Reaction" articles should be more than just quote farms which that one is. Reactions should only be included if there's actual "actions" tied to it, just not strong words. --Masem (t) 20:30, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

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[Posted] RD: Miloš Forman

Article: Miloš Forman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Sherenk1 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and Amadeus director. Sherenk1 (talk) 13:16, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support very good article -- BobTheIP editing as 2.28.13.227 (talk) 15:19, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support Very well done on fixing up the article. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:32, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Posting. --Tone 18:57, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

[Posted] 2018 bombing of Damascus and Homs

Article: 2018 bombing of Damascus and Homs (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A US-led coalition launches a military attack against Syria. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ US and allies launch strikes on Syria chemical weapons sites
Alternative blurb II: ​ The US, UK and France have have bombed multiple government targets in Syria targeting alleged chemical weapons sites.
Alternative blurb III: ​ The United States, along with the UK and France, bomb multiple government targets in Syria in response to a chemical attack.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ The United States, the United Kingdom and France bomb alleged Syrian chemical weapons sites in response to the suspected chemical weapons attack in Douma, Syria.
News source(s): BBC among many others
Credits:

• Nominated by Power~enwiki (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Obviously pre-mature to post in its current state, but the title and content should stabilize in a few hours once news coverage happens. The importance should be obvious. power~enwiki (π, ν) 01:23, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

• Comment- Major fact, but the article is a stub. If improved I'll strong support it.--SirEdimon (talk) 01:32, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Comment- Alternative article titled 2018 American-led missile strikes in Syria can be used, hopefully the speedy deletion nomination will be shaved off. Nice4What (talk) 01:39, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

The existing title is marginally better ("American-led" is of questionable accuracy, though "coalition" is vague) and that article was created first; if you don't want to move your contributions to the other article, hopefully an admin can hist-merge and move them for you. power~enwiki (π, ν) 01:45, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Coalition is of questionable accuracy, no news source has stated that CJTF-OIR is involved. News stories throughout the week has shown that the US reached out to UK and France. Nice4What (talk) 01:53, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Coalition refers to the obvious fact that more than one country is involved. To be perfectly clear, it would be irrational to argue about this much longer; do not disrupt editing by insisting on a content fork. Regardless of whether you are right or wrong about the title, there should be one article. power~enwiki (π, ν) 01:56, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

• Comment- Support the first article (2018 coalition military action against Syria) created on the subject as an alternative, as it was created first and has been edited by multiple editors. A merge is also a possibility.--SamHolt6 (talk) 01:55, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Comment Given this is in response to the suspected chemical attack, it might make sense to combine said blurbs. No comment yet on the article. --Masem (t) 02:28, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

If there is wording for a blurb mentioning Douma chemical attack, I'll support that. power~enwiki (π, ν) 02:29, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support Big news.  Nixinova  T  C  02:47, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Comment the article is now move-protected at 2018 bombing of Damascus and Homs, and I believe everything discussed above redirects there. power~enwiki (π, ν) 03:47, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support. The proxy war escalates. 99.253.147.101 (talk) 05:31, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support Altblurb II only. We need to name the three countries if we post this.Zigzig20s (talk) 05:36, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

  Just to be clear, I oppose all the other blurbs.Zigzig20s (talk) 05:41, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

• Leaning Support The article is in reasonable shape right now. But might need some update on impact and casualties as detail will emerge. I searched the news sources, there isn't a lot yet. HaEr48 (talk) 05:39, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Yes, please. Can we have some actual world news on the front page for once, as opposed to the usual fare of obscure sports trophies and vehicle crashes? Sandstein 05:44, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality Again, reaction sections broken out by country with just statements are not approprate. It can be a lot cleaner and terser here. --Masem (t) 05:45, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support Altblurb II only The coalition of countries directly attacking the Syrian government is unfathomably important. Russia has already threatened retaliation, which if possible should also be mentioned. Continue to update this blurb as events unfold; reactions from other major countries in the region could rapidly escalate the situation. I would also like to add that we should not simply refer to the United Kingdom and France as "its [the United States] allies" in the blurb. BrendonTheWizard (talk) 05:59, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Çomment Updated altblurb III ^?.  Nixinova  T  C  07:14, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support - Alt 3. It has both articles so we can display on ITN and remove the single chemical attack. Sherenk1 (talk) 07:53, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Comment President Trump mentioned France before the UK in his address. Should we do the same?Zigzig20s (talk) 08:33, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

For what reason should we order our blurb or write the article based on what Trump said/how he said it? 331dot (talk) 08:34, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Did Macron support this before May?Zigzig20s (talk) 08:36, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Is that why Trump ordered the other countries as he did? Genuine question. 331dot (talk) 08:40, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

The report I read said that Trump noted it as "Britain, France and the United States", presumably to shift some of blame for the now inevitable slew of terror attacks towards Europe and away from the US. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:49, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Nope. "A combined operation with the armed forces of France and the United Kingdom".Zigzig20s (talk) 09:03, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

NOPE, "The nations of Britain, France, and the United States of America have marshalled their righteous power against barbarism and brutality," President Trump said in an address to the nation from the White House at about 21:00 local time (02:00 BST). BBC. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:06, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Either way, see User:AusLondonder's comment below.Zigzig20s (talk) 09:09, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

I've given up caring already. If we're unable to post this because we can't work out what order to put the UK and France after the United States, I give up. §|The Rambling Man]] (talk) 09:15, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

User:The Rambling Man: "The French president playing a leading role in pushing for these strikes", circa 3:20-3:25.Zigzig20s (talk) 17:57, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support Would be highly ironic if the possible starting point of a possible nuclear WW3 weren't mentioned in the In the news category.--Adûnâi (talk) 08:43, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Weak Support - with the proviso we use the second blurb. Oppose otherwise. Also wonder if it would be better to mention France second after the U.S. It makes sense alphabetically and France appears to have made a more substantial contribution to the attack than the UK. Weak support because this is just the latest minor instalment in a very long-running war. AusLondonder (talk) 08:48, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support article is okay, but by no means should we use the term "coalition", it's really just the US, France and the UK. Or maybe don't even mention that, the BBC are calling them "western powers"... The Rambling Man (talk) 08:54, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Definitely not "western powers"--too vague. It's the US, France and the UK.Zigzig20s (talk) 09:00, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Perhaps you should read and then edit the target article then, and email the BBC!! The Rambling Man (talk) 09:09, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

• Comment if posted, it probably needs to draw in the currently posted chemical attack, i.e. "... in response to the suspected chemical weapons attack in Douma, Syria."... We don't need to blurbs about essentially the same news item. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:57, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support - But I do support TRMs suggestion. No need for two blurbs.BabbaQ (talk) 09:11, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Posted using alt blurb 3 as a basis, and combining with previous blurb about the suspected chemical attack. -- Fuzheado | Talk 11:05, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

[Closed] April 14th Budapest protests

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Article: Hungarian parliamentary election, 2018 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: No blurb specified (Post)

I'm not much of a Wikipedia editor, so I don't know the proper procedure for getting things into current events, but I think tens of thousands of people protesting against election results is notable, but I'm also admittedly biased because I think the goings-on of countries that silence their media are important to note in global news. Would appreciate input. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:AB88:33C0:6A80:5D:8F16:47D9:4ED1 (talk) 00:29, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

• Comment Courtesy templetization. Isa (talk) 03:20, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
• Strong oppose Not even it's own article.  Nixinova  T  C  07:26, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose if this was significant enough, per Nixinova, I'd expect to see an article about it. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:57, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

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April 13

Portal:Current events/2018 April 13

April 13, 2018 (2018-04-13) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Use of chemical weapons in the Syrian Civil War The United Nations Security Council meets amid concerns of military strikes in Syria by the United States and its allies following a suspected chemical weapons attack in Syria last weekend, with the United States ambassador to the UN, Nikki Haley, accusing Russia of lies and covering for the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, which she said had used chemical weapons at least 50 times in the past seven years of warfare, and the Russian ambassador to the UN, Vassily Nebenzia, blaming the United States, France and the UK for escalating tensions. (The Washington Post) The British government issues a statement saying it is "highly likely" the Assad regime used chemical weapons on its own people, and that since such an action could not go unchallenged, Britain would work with United States and France to coordinate an international response, without specifying what measures the United Kingdom would take. (CNN) 2018 Gaza border protests Protests enter a third week, with thousands taking part. (The Washington Post) The Israeli Defence Forces claim an improvised explosive device was set off near the Gazan border with possible Palestinian casualties and other protestors attempted unsuccessfully to fly a kite carrying a firebomb over the border fence. (The Jerusalem Post) Israel opens fire again, with the Gaza Health Ministry claiming one Palestinian was killed and 233 injured as protesters torched tyres and Israeli flags. (Haaretz) The International Federation of Journalists, Norwegian Refugee Council, and Committee to Protect Journalists criticise Israeli authorities for shooting dead Yaser Murtaja during his coverage of the protests last week. The IFJ calls Murtaja's death murder and its general secretary accuses Israel of "fabricating lies" to support the killing. (The Jeruslalem Post) Police say a bombing took place in Barawe, Lower Shabelle, Somalia, at a football stadium yesterday, the first time a stadium in the country has been targeted, killed up to five spectators. (Reuters) Armed bandits storm a mining site in the northwestern Nigerian state of Zamfara, killing 26 people, including 16 illegal gold miners. (CNN) The Government of Ecuador says that the three Ecuadorian journalists kidnapped by rebel members of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia on 26 March have been murdered. President Lenín Moreno orders military operations on the Colombian border to catch the murderers, offering a reward of US$100,000. (The Guardian) Poisoning of Yulia and Sergei Skripal Sir Mark Sedwill, national security advisor to the United Kingdom, says Russian intelligence targeted Yulia Skripal's email account. (BBC) Disasters and accidents Shipwrecks in 2018 The fire aboard Korean ship FV Dong Won 701 in the Port of Timaru, New Zealand, enters its fifth day. Fire and Emergency New Zealand rejects a proposal to tow the vessel out to sea as too dangerous. Firefighters commence efforts to seal the ship to suffocate ongoing fires. (Stuff) A bus overturns near the village of Vakarel, Bulgaria, killing six people and injuring 20. (Reuters) Vanuatu plans another evacuation from Ambae Island due to volcanic activity from Manaro Voui. (RNZ) Summit Air Flight 409 The Nepalese Accident Investigation Commission concludes its investigation, finding the plane stalled after the flight crew lost situational awareness and began a rapid ascent to avoid terrain whilst still configured for landing. (The Aviation Herald) Russian authorities say a Kamov Ka-29 belonging to the Baltic Fleet crashed late yesterday whilst attempting to land on a ship, killing two people. (RadioFreeEurope / Radio Liberty) Health and environment The International Maritime Organisation announces agreements to reduce shipping emissions by 50% of 2008 levels by 2050, and to ban heavy fuel oil from the Arctic. (CBC) (Reuters) Law and crime Terrorism in France French judges clear the Tarnac Nine, accused of performing an anarchist terror sabotage in a controversial trial, of wrongdoing and describe the existence of a terror group as a "fiction". Defence lawyers had accused ex-President Nicolas Sarkozy's government of misusing counterterror law. (The Guardian) Terrorism in Germany Three Syrian nationals are arrested in Saarland suspected of terror links. Two are suspected of fighting with the Islamic State in Syria. (Deutsche Welle) Right-wing terrorism in the United Kingdom An unidentified civilian is jailed for three and a half years for terror offences connected to banned neo-Nazi group National Action. Acquitted Finnish national Mikko Vehvilainen, a serving soldier in the British Army, is jailed alongside him for a weapons offence, receiving 12 months. (BBC) (BBC) (The Birmingham Mail) LGBT rights in Portugal The Parliament of Portugal passed a new law, by a 109 vote margin, making it easier for people to change their legal gender. Portuguese citizens from the age of 16 will now be able to change their gender and name in documents without the need of a medical report. (BBC) Presidency of Donald Trump U.S. President Donald Trump pardons former Vice-President Dick Cheney's Chief of Staff Lewis "Scooter" Libby, who was convicted of lying about leaks to the media. (BBC) 2016 Ludwigshafen bombing plot An Islamic State member is sentenced in Vienna to nine years in prison, among others for instigating a 12-year-old boy to commit a Christmas market bombing in Ludwigshafen, Germany. (Deutsche Welle) An improvised explosive device goes off prematurely in Wardaka, Baghlan, Afghanistan, killing nine insurgents and injuring five more. (Tolo News) Terrorism in Iraq Islamic State claim responsibility for bomb attacks on al-Hashd al-Shaabi in Asdeira, Salahuddin, Iraq that killed at least ten. (Iraqi News) The Iraqi Interior Ministry announces the arrest of six alleged Islamic State fighters including one woman in Mosul. (Iraqi News) An al-Hashd al-Shaabi statement claims the group launched missiles over the Syrian border at Islamic State militants preparing to launch an international assault, killing and injuring dozens of militants. (Iraqi News) Politics and elections Brexit negotiations Thousands of pro-European Union supporters of Open Britain, the European Movement and Britain for Europe demonstrate across the United Kingdom calling for a referendum on the final terms of the UK's planned exit from the European Union. (The Belfast Telegraph) 2017–18 United States political sexual scandals Elliott Broidy resigns as deputy financial chairman of the U.S. Republican National Committee following reports that he negotiated a $1.6 million payoff with a Playboy Playmate over claims he had impregnated her. (Politico) Heads of state and government from across the Americas meet in Lima, Peru, for the Eighth Summit of the Americas. (Al Jazeera) The U.S. government releases a report by Inspector General Michael E. Horowitz that accuses former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe of improperly authorizing a media disclosure and "lack of candor" concerning this disclosure. (The Hill) Science and technology Experimental satellite RemoveDEBRIS arrives at the International Space Station ahead of a planned mission removing orbital debris. (GetSurrey)

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[Closed] RD: Art Bell

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Article: Art Bell (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4] [5]
Credits:

• Nominated by Godsy (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Derkalurpse (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: The creator and longtime host of Coast to Coast AM, a radio program which now has a cumulative audience of 2.75 million (still significant, but much less than under Bell) and is heard internationally on over 600 radio stations. I am not sure if this meets the requirements to be posted because I have not participated here often as of late. — Godsy ^(TALK_CONT) 16:05, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose Unfortunately it’s a very long article with many unsourced statements that will need to be referenced before posting. Pawnkingthree (talk) 16:43, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose per P2K3. Referencing is dreadful. I hope this gets cleaned up so we can post it. Art Bell was a truly iconic figure in the world of weird and fringe. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:46, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose tagged. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:59, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
• Comment – If you haven't paid much or any attention to this article aside from now, most of the "dreadful parts" appear to have been POV-forked onto this article from the Coast article as part of an ongoing effort to rid the latter of anything not pertaining to the program's current agenda. Your first clue should have been the fact that the program has been in wide syndication for approximately a quarter century, yet the article lacks a history section. Merely mentioning "East of the Rockies" and "West of the Rockies" without bothering to explain its purpose, namely the fact that the callers in the program's early days under Bell were heavily weighted towards the West Coast (specifically California and Nevada), with Bell deciding to give the eastern two-thirds of the U.S. equal footing with the western third for access to the call-in lines, should be viewed as an WP:INDISCRIMINATE violation. Evidently, judging from how long this has been going on, the community is just fine with a social media site for the program's producers masquerading as an encyclopedia entry. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 07:58, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

So what you're saying is that this article is unfit to be posted on the main page. I think that's been established.--WaltCip (talk) 11:08, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

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[Closed] Kathua rape case of 8 year old

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Article: Kathua rape case (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The brutal gang rape and murder of an eight-year old girl has sparked outrage and anger across India. (Post)
News source(s): Original BBC article BBC followup
Credits:

• Nominated by Sherenk1 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by DiplomatTesterMan (talk · give credit), PamD (talk · give credit) and Sachi bbsr (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Brutal rape of 8 year old. Making headlines due to protests for arresting those accused. Also it has "become a religious flashpoint in an already polarised Indian region." Sherenk1 (talk) 06:45, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb in its current state. Sensationalized language.--WaltCip (talk) 11:08, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
• Not an opinion, an actual question: We seem to keep seeing lurid crime stories popping up out of India, and I'm starting to fear the creation a stereotype. I would imagine this sort of thing does happen with some regularity worldwide. In some places it's local news, in others the story is censored to avoid bad press. Might this be a case of selective journalism? Likewise with the public response, which can be both fed by sensationalism and ignored or inflated to serve tabloid purposes. GCG (talk) 11:40, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

I partially concur with GCG's assessment. The selection of ITN stories from India has not been flattering lately. However, I think this is symptomatic of ITN as a whole, as ITN has a very strong bias towards disaster or crime stories.--WaltCip (talk) 12:15, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose This nomination appears to be a case of trying to right great wrongs. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:00, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose Subject is undoubtedly a vicious crime. But vicious crimes occur daily all over the world. We generally try to steer clear of these kinds of hyper sensationalized tabloid press stories. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:07, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
• Commment The original BBC story has more detail and reporting. Its in Kashmir rather than just 'India' and involves land politics, corruption of officials etc etc. Its not just 'local news'. Rape as a nasty crime is bad enough. Rape used as a terror tactic to ethnically cleanse a region is very different. Only in death does duty end (talk) 14:08, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose Reading through, I understand the severity of the situation in that Kashmir region. But, however, I'm having difficulty trying to determine how extensive these protests are (which is the only reason this should be posted as a blurb per both the news stories and this nom). it's difficult to tell if is tens, hundreds, or thousands of people, and the lack of specificity generally suggests these are small-scale protests, which we generally do not post. --Masem (t) 14:18, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose While indisputably a gruesome crime, isolated incidents such as this are usually not appropriate for ITN. If the protests became highly violent, or if the crime itself were politically motivated that would be another story, but as far as I can tell neither is the case. EternalNomad (talk) 18:44, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
• Strong oppose. We can't go posting every rape or murder conviction, let alone every trial. Horrible for those affected, but sensationalist reporting is not for ITN. This is local tabloid news. Modest Genius ^talk 18:56, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose everything that needs to be said has already been said. power~enwiki (π, ν) 21:15, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

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April 12

Portal:Current events/2018 April 12

April 12, 2018 (2018-04-12) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal The Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons states it agrees with UK authorities on their analysis of the identity of the toxic chemical used against the Skripals. The UK identifies the substance as a Novichok nerve agent, of a type developed by Russia. (BBC) (OPCW) 2018 Gaza border protests A further two Palestinian protestors die, bringing the death toll at the Israeli-Gazan border to 34 since March 30. (al-Jazeera) Adalah and Al Mezan say Gazan doctors had to amputate the legs of two young protestors wounded by Israeli fire after Israel refused permission for their transfer to Ramallah in the West Bank for treatment. Israel says the men were refused transfers because they were involved in violence. (The Times of Israel) Egypt, citing humanitarian reasons, opens the Rafah border crossing between Gaza and the Egyptian Sinai Peninsula for three days. (The Times of Israel) The 9th International Conference on the Holy City of Jerusalem begins, with Israel denying access to the Palestinian Authority-hosted conference to a number of foreign invitees including a party of thirteen Indians, two buses containing academics, and Ghanan MP Ras Mubarak. Israel's ambassador to Ghana denies ever issuing Mubarak with permission to enter the Occupied Palestinian Territories, calling Mubarak a "propaganda machine" and claims it's a "complete lie". (al-Jazeera) Syrian Civil War Siege of Eastern Ghouta Syrian government fighters remove the last rebels from Douma, completing the Syrian government's recapture of former rebel stronghold Eastern Ghouta. (al-Jazeera) Right-wing terrorism in the United Kingdom The High Court in Glasgow sentences Banff resident Connor Ward to life in prison with a minimum term of six years for plotting an anti-Islamic terror attack against mosques in Aberdeen. (The Press and Journal) Two serving soldiers are cleared of terror offences related to banned neo-Nazi group National Action. A civilian is convicted. (BBC) (BBC) (Birmingham Mail) Unidentified militants attack Kuru-kuru and Jarkuka in Zamfara, Nigeria, killing dozens. (The Punch) Ex-MI5 agent Jeremy Fleming gives his first public speech as head of GCHQ, revealing the United Kingdom launched a "major offensive cyber-campaign" against Islamic State. He also criticises Russia for actions such as launching the NotPetya virus and the poisoning of Yulia and Sergei Skripal, both actions Russia denies involvement in. (BBC) Arts and culture Chernobyl disaster The Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant opens its doors to tourism. (TASS) Steve Huffman, co-founder and CEO of Reddit, says racism is allowed on the website. Some users criticize his position, while others praise Huffman for defending free speech. (BBC) Business and economy Economy of the United Kingdom Door-to-door sales firm Kleeneze, which employs around 5,000 people, collapses into administration after 95 years. (BBC) Disasters and accidents Shipwrecks in 2018 The fire onboard South Korean ship FV Dong Won 701 in the Port of Timaru, New Zealand, enters its fourth day. The port resumes limited operations despite the ongoing blaze and the Transport Accident Investigation Commission starts an investigation despite being unable to board the vessel. (The New Zealand Herald) (Stuff) A Hellenic Air Force Mirage 2000-5F fighter jet crashes near the Greek island of Skyros in the Aegean Sea while intercepting a Turkish aircraft that had violated Greek airspace. The pilot is reported dead. (The Independent) (Protothema) Strong winds from a storm cause two of the Taj Mahal's minarets to collapse. No injuries are reported (BBC) Tesla Inc. withdraws from the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board's probe of a fatal Model X crash in California. Tesla had drawn the NTSB's ire by releasing information publicly about its view of the case and about the car's Autopilot feature, something the Board does not allow during active investigations. (Reuters) (Bloomberg) International relations 2018 inter-Korean summit A joint letter from more than 200 NGOs urge South Korean president Moon Jae-in to discuss North Korean human rights at the April 27 summit. (Al Jazeera) Law and crime 2018 Hamburg stabbing attack A man fatally stabs his ex-wife and his one-year-old daughter at a crowded subway platform in central Hamburg, Germany. (The Washington Post) Terrorism in Iraq Counterterror forces in Ninevah arrest and charge four suspected Islamic State members over a fatal bombing at a market in regional capital Mosul last year. Separately, authorities discover an unidentified corpse in Mosul thought to be connected. (al-Bawaba News) A mass grave containing burnt bodies is found in al-Tarabisha, Anbar. (Iraqi News) Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act Backpage CEO Carl Ferrer pleads guilty to conspiracy and money laundering and agrees to assist in the prosecution of other Backpage employees, including co-founders Michael Lacey and James Larkin, who were charged with several counts of human trafficking on April 6 after the site was seized by the FBI. (The Wall Street Journal) Science and technology 2018 in spaceflight NASA announces that the Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite will be launched from Cape Canaveral on April 16. (Times Now News) 2017 Atlantic hurricane season Harvey, Irma, Maria, and Nate join the list of retired Atlantic hurricane names. (USA Today) Threatened fauna of Australia The Mary River turtle, which is endemic to the Mary River in south-east Queensland, Australia, is added to the Zoological Society of London's list of endangered species. (CNN) A study in Nature shows species which are visually unusual or attractive go extinct at higher rates. (Tech Times)

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[Closed] RD: Zoran Krasić

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Article: Zoran Krasić (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Novosti
Credits:

• Nominated by EternalNomad (talk · give credit)
• Updated by CJCurrie (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Serbian and Yugoslavian politician. EternalNomad (talk) 01:48, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

• Weak support The article looks good but it's impossible to double-check the references. They're either in a foreign language I can't read, or offline.Zigzig20s (talk) 05:40, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Weak oppose per above. The problem here is that unless we have someone who can verify sources, we have a hell of a lot of good faith to assume that those references aren't just completely unsuitable. I'd like someone conversant in the language and who is a trusted Wikipedian to let us know that we're not about to post something horrifically abusive to the main page. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:14, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support - there's no need to fear foreign language sources. Google translate now works quite well and I could easily verify his death and other biographical information from this link. -Zanhe (talk) 03:57, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

  I don't trust Google Translate at all. That's just me. If you found English language information on this individual, hopefully you added it to the article. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:58, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Google Translate is not good enough for publishing, but for verifying information, it is quite useful. -Zanhe (talk) 22:40, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

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[Posted] RD: John Melcher

Article: John Melcher (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:

• Nominated by Power~enwiki (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Death of a former US Senator, though not one that's been in the news any time recently. The article currently is almost a stub; hopefully the obit coverage will allow it to be expanded. power~enwiki (π, ν) 20:42, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

• Delay posting until Yang Gui gets on the main page in the RD ticker.--WaltCip (talk) 23:15, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
  • I'm fine with that. power~enwiki (π, ν) 23:32, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

• No more need to delay. Yang Gui was already posted (for a short period of time). -Zanhe (talk) 23:45, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support - important politician. Article is fine. Nomination is under the wrong date, but no big deal. -Zanhe (talk) 23:54, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

moved to April 12 power~enwiki (π, ν) 01:17, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support although there is an [according to whom] tag in there which, ideally (especially for a BLP) should be resolved before posting. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:11, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

• The issue has been resolved. Marked as ready. -Zanhe (talk) 23:45, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

• Posted. Espresso Addict (talk) 15:14, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

April 11

Portal:Current events/2018 April 11

April 11, 2018 (2018-04-11) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Yemeni Crisis (2011–present) The Royal Saudi Air Defense intercepts a ballistic missile fired from Yemen over the Saudi capital Riyadh that caused panic among residents. Houthis say they fired several Burkan-2 missiles at targets in Saudi Arabia, including Saudi Aramco oil facilities. Separately, Saudi Air Defenses shoot down two Houthi-operated Qasef-1 drones near the border. (Reuters) (Middle East Eye) 2018 Gaza border protests The Israeli Defence Forces say a bomb exploded near one of their construction vehicles near the Gazan border. In response, the IDF launches attacks on Hamas positions within the Gaza Strip. (The Times of Israel) The Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Centre states 80% of the deceased Palestinians, including journalist Yasir Murtaja, are terrorists. (The Jerusalem Post) Tamer Abu Daqqa, a resident of Khan Younis, Gaza, claims he is the man shown on an unauthorised video taken by an Israeli soldier being shot by a sniper through the border fence. Daqqa rejects Israeli claims he was a ringleader of violence and says he was assisting wounded Palestinians. (The Jerusalem Post) Israeli Defence Minister Avigdor Liberman bars 110 Palestinians from entering Israel to attend a joint Israeli-Palestinian Remembrance Day ceremony in Tel Aviv. (The Jerusalem Post) Terrorism in Spain Spain's Audiencia Nacional sentences ten Islamic extremists to between eight and twelve years in prison for a plot to launch attacks against Barcelona landmarks and behead a hostage on camera. The cell was convicted yesterday. (El País) Terrorism in the United Arab Emirates The Abu Dhabi Federal Appeal Court jails two Egyptians and a Saudi for fifteen years each and fines them for promoting terrorist ideologies online. The court orders them deported after release, their computer equipment seized, and their social media presences deleted. (Gulf News) Terrorism in Canada Lawyers representing Ayanle Hassan Ali, accused of three attempted murders in a 2016 Toronto knife attack on Canadian soldiers, say he should be acquitted entirely of allegations the charges had a terrorist motive and found not criminally responsible for the underlying offences on the grounds of his mental health. (CBC.ca) Mexican Drug War Fourteen people are killed in 36 hours in Cancún, Mexico, in the worst spate of violence in the city since 2004. (The Daily Mail) The Mechanism for International Criminal Tribunals partly overturns the acquittal of Serb radical nationalist Vojislav Šešelj and finds him guilty of crimes against humanity during the Yugoslav Wars. He is not detained as he served more than eleven years in the court's custody, and takes to Twitter to declare himself "proud of my war crimes" and "ready to repeat them". (Bloomberg) (The Irish Times) Terrorism in Iraq Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi attends the funeral of bodyguard Brigadier General Sherif Ismail el-Morshedy, killed in action in Nineveh against Saraya al-Salam. (Iraqi News) Disasters and accidents Shipwrecks in 2018 The fire onboard South Korean ship FV Don Wong 701 in the Port of Timaru, New Zealand, enters its third day. At least four vessels – MV Searuby, MV San Granit, MV Longview Logger and MV Jeppesen Maersk – are delayed from arriving. (Stuff) (Stuff) 2018 Algerian Air Force Il-76 crash An Ilyushin Il-76 military plane crashes shortly after take-off from Boufarik Military Airport in Algeria, killing all 257 passengers on board. (BBC) (sbs.com) 2010 Polish Air Force Tu-154 crash Poland releases a new report on the disaster, which killed 96 including then-President Lech Kaczyński, rejecting previous findings and claiming instead air traffic controllers in Smolensk, Russia, gave the jet erroneous information prior to two explosions destroying the jet in midair. (Radio Poland) Humboldt Broncos bus crash The athletic therapist for the Humboldt Broncos, Dayna Brons, dies from injuries sustained in the crash, raising the death toll to 16. (Sportsnet.ca) Saskatchewan politicians seek a redesign of the intersection where the crash occurred, which was also previously the scene of a six-death crash in 1997. (Sportsnet.ca) The family of a man killed in California when his Tesla Model X crashed with the Autopilot engaged says they intend to sue the carmaker. His wife further says he had complained of flaws in the vehicle's behaviour and predicted his death in a collision with the barrier his car ultimately hit. (Electrek) Disasters in Indonesia The death toll from tainted alcohol in Jakarta and West Java, Indonesia, reaches at least 82. (Reuters) The death toll from a fireworks factory explosion in Vellore, India, rises to four. (The Times of India) The death toll from a Malawi cholera epidemic reaches 30. (Reuters) Synthetic cannabis containing rat poison kills three and injures over 100 across the United States according to the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention. (USA Today) Health and environment Climate change in New Zealand New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern bans future offshore oil and gas exploration in New Zealand, leaving existing permits untouched. (The New Zealand Herald) A survey commissioned by Water New Zealand reveals sanitary sewer overflows increased by 379% across the nation in 2017. (The New Zealand Herald) International relations South Korea–United States relations South Korea national security adviser Chung Eui-yong visits Washington, D.C. and meets with his U.S. counterpart John R. Bolton. (Yonhap News Agency) The European Union says it is optimistic a two-year dispute with Poland's ruling Law and Justice over proposed judicial reforms will be resolved by mid May. Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki has been engaged in talks on the issue with the European Commission. (Reuters) Law and crime Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act U.S. President Donald Trump officially signs the anti-human trafficking act into law. (The Washington Post) Elmira Medynska, the partner of Russian whistleblower Alexander Perepilichnyy, tells his inquest at the Central Criminal Court in London he seemed nervous and had been unwell prior to his death. The inquest is attempting to determine if Perepilichnyy had been murdered. (BBC) South Korean politician Ahn Hee-jung is indicted on accusations he repeatedly raped his aide Kim Ji-eun, who previously accused him publicly of sexual abuse. (Gulf News) Former President of Andalusia and ex-Minister of Health and Labour José Antonio Griñán declares before the court as a key in the ERE corruption scandal. (El Mundo) Politics and elections Azerbaijani presidential election, 2018 Millions of Azerbaijanis vote in the presidential elections. President Ilham Aliyev receives 86% of the vote and is re-elected for another seven-year term. (The Washington Post) 2017–18 United States political sexual scandals A special investigatory committee from the Missouri House of Representatives releases a report on Governor Eric Greitens's alleged invasion of privacy and sexual misconduct. (Chicago Tribune), (FOX2Now) Paul Ryan, the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, announces that he will not seek re-election to his seat from Wisconsin's 1st congressional district in the November mid-term election. Ryan has been Speaker since October 2015. (The Washington Post)

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[Closed] Trinidad and Tobago legalizes gay sex

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Article: LGBT rights in Trinidad and Tobago (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Trinidad and Tobago's Supreme Court strikes down a colonial-era law criminalizing homosexuality. (Post)
News source(s): [6]
Credits:

• Nominated by 50.30.144.20 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Big victory in one of the most homophobic regions in the world. 50.30.144.20 (talk) 23:54, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

• Comment The link to the Sexual Offenses act sections doesn't align with the article. I've tagged it as such and left a comment on the talk page. --LaserLegs (talk) 01:06, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
• Strong Oppose The latest in the endless stream of nominations all on the same topic. This or that country legalized SSM of homosexual sex. This has long since ceased to be major news. If Russia or Saudi Arabia legalize SSM someone drop me a line as I'd probably support that nomination. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:10, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

So unlike European countries or Australia where it was ambiguous, T&T has an explicit law on the books. They're actually closer to Russia or SA. --LaserLegs (talk) 01:13, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

This is 0.1% of the number of people affected when comparing T&T to Russia. --Jayron32 01:55, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

I know. Just pointing out how the process is different than any of the other SSM changes lately. --LaserLegs (talk) 02:06, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose per Ad Orientem. Brandmeister^talk 08:19, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose per Ad Orientem. Lepricavark (talk) 20:38, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

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[Posted] RD: Robert Matthews (athlete)

Article: Robert Matthews (athlete) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Blind Paralympic runner from the UK, eight times gold medallist. Article is well sourced, if a little short. I will try to expand - Dumelow (talk) 10:41, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

• Supportagreed, article is ready to post. -- BobTheIP editing as 2.28.13.227 (talk) 00:46, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 02:34, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

[Posted to RD]: Mitzi Shore

Article: Mitzi Shore (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Los Angeles Times
Credits:

• Nominated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 03:41, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support Looks OK. –Ammarpad (talk) 08:14, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support Nice work on the updates, TDKR. GCG (talk) 15:39, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
• Posted --Jayron32 15:41, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

[Posted] RD: Gillian Ayres

Article: Gillian Ayres (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Stormy clouds (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Stormy clouds (talk) 18:10, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support good enough. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:29, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support Referenced start.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:58, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
• Posted. Espresso Addict (talk) 21:56, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

[Posted] 2018 Algerian Air Force crash

Article: 2018 Algerian Air Force crash (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 257 people are killed as a military plane crashes in Algeria. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ At least 257 people are killed as an Algerian Air Force Ilyushin Il-76 aircraft crashes in Algeria.
Credits:

• Nominated by Sherenk1 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Eugen Simion 14 (talk · give credit), Mareklug (talk · give credit) and Triggerhippie4 (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Atleast 100 feared dead. Story developing. Sherenk1 (talk) 09:47, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

• Wait until we get some details to put in a blurb. We usually have a higher bar for casualties in military related crashes, but if the initial reports are accurate, this may meet it. 331dot (talk) 10:06, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose for now. Article has no useful information beyond the date and time when the crash happened. Less than a stub. When the article has expanded to a reasonable state, it can be reassessed. --Jayron32 10:43, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

  Change to weak support Article is at the BARE minimum of length; I would prefer to see more information actually put in it, but begrudgingly this probably just barely crosses the line to acceptable. --Jayron32 16:13, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

  @Jayron32: No it's not. Current revision says 1044 characters of prose and 167 words. I agree with the below that it's a better stub than many other stubs I've seen, but it's still a stub. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:20, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

• Comment updated blurb to reflect the recent update to at least 247 deaths. This is a serious incident. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:27, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support once the article gets a bit more meat on it. This is a major crash. Brycehughes (talk) 11:34, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support We should wait, but this should definitely get on the main page after more info is available. This is the first 200 fatality- plane crash in 3 years, I believe. 💵Money💵emoji💵^Talk 12:36, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support Article expanded; blurb updated with latest stats. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:41, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support - article bashed into something resembling a shape. Bit sketchy on details but we can only work with what is published. Mjroots (talk) 12:54, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support although we don't usually post military aircraft crashes this one involved family members, and the number of casualties is horrifying. EternalNomad (talk) 13:35, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support Though we generally don't post military crashes, this had family members aboard; even if that wasn't the case, a 200+ casualty crash of any type is significant. --Masem (t) 13:45, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose This article does not meet the minimum length defined in ITN guidelines of "three complete, referenced and well-formed paragraphs". Mamyles (talk) 13:50, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
  • I saw this as an issue, but reviewing the most current sources, there's literally not much more that can be said that isn't filler that would be inappropriate for us. Until they have some idea of the cause of the crash, I can't see a reasonable expansion possible here. --Masem (t) 13:57, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
    • If there's nothing more to say about it, then why should we post it? Because it meets the WP:MINIMUMDEATHS threshold? – Muboshgu (talk) 14:04, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
      • There will be clearly more to be said once they evaluate why the crash happened. That could hours, days, or weeks from that info coming due, and while we're not talking a third-world country here, I'd not expect rapid assessment of this from Algeria as one would have in the US or Europe. Because we have no idea when that will come, and could be days from now, we're at a point where the article does cover every known detail as comprehensively as possible. --Masem (t) 14:32, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
        • I'll reconsider my opposition once that detail becomes available. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:33, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose Mamyles is right. This is a stub. We shouldn't post a stub. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:01, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Okay, now it's no longer a stub. Support. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:07, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose Comment – Stub. Sca (talk) 14:20, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Invalid oppose by Sca. The article has an infobox, image, and structure and four paragraphs of text. It is not, by any means of the definition, a WP:STUB. Mjroots (talk) 14:29, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
    • Currently has 957 characters of prose. DYK requires 1500 to get on the main page. WP:STUB gives a cutoff of 250 words, and this has 154. It's a stub. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:31, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

For a stub it's informative, but the last 50 words are (unreferenced) background, and it still seems too thin for Main Page exposure. Sca (talk) 14:48, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

I asked the editor who added that text for a source, but none was provided. Therefore I've removed it as such and bordering on WP:OR. Mjroots (talk) 15:01, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

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• Comment: further to my "support", above; this is well beyond the requirements for inclusion, and - despite the irrelevant comments above about DYK and stubs, etc - seems to be good to go. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:43, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support per Masem. Article is in good shape despite its size. -- Tavix ^(talk) 15:01, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

⇒ As an aside, German Wiki has it on their ITN, but it links to a stub of just 69 words, which seems an obvious bid to get it out there pronto due to the high death toll. I don't think we want to go down that road. Sca (talk) 15:05, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose stub. It contains every published scrap of information and it's a stub. It's a stub because other than it happening, nothing is known about the event. We're only talking about this because of WP:MINIMUMDEATHS. When details about the aircraft (like date of delivery) are known, and a preliminary cause are known, and the article updated, then lets talk. There is absolutely no reason what so ever to rush this to the main page of Wikipedia. --LaserLegs (talk) 15:52, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

• I don't think there is any requirement to wait for a cause to be known, even a "preliminary cause", is there? Again date of aircraft delivery might be informative, but is it an actual requirement for posting? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:03, 11 April 2018 (UTC) p.s. count: says Characters = 1,045 and Words = 167

• The decision as to when an article is updated enough is subjective. In my subjective opinion, it's not updated enough. Admins determining consensus will decide of my !vote matters. Deal with it. --LaserLegs (talk) 16:29, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

• So we just have subjective views on this, then. Yes, I think I can just about deal with that, thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:35, 11 April 2018 (UTC) I can offer to add "in your face, dude", if you feel that would help.

• Support - looking at the article it appears to be adequate for posting in its current state. —LukeSurl ^{t c} 16:00, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose - A stub is a stub is a stub.--WaltCip (talk) 16:16, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

What's needed is some info about why the military personnel (and their families) were being transported from Algiers to Béchar, near the Moroccan border. Was it a routine flight or something else? Also, a bit of background might be relevant regarding the Il-76, a Soviet-era plane. As this one crashed just after takeoff a technical fault seems likely. How old was it? Sca (talk) 16:45, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support - Agree it is well beyond the requirements for inclusion. By the time all the shoutin' is over here, the article will be in decent shape anyway. Darkest Tree Talk 16:49, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support. According to count, no longer a stub. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:51, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support - having assisted in expansion, I will support per Martinevans123. Stormy clouds (talk) 18:00, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

BBC says "witnesses say they saw a wing catch fire as the plane took off," i.e. a technical fault. Could be added. Sca (talk) 18:01, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

@Sca: - Witnesses to the incident have reported that the wing of the plane had caught fire prior to the crash. Step ahead of you. Stormy clouds (talk) 18:02, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

⇒ Withdraw my opposition. It's the best that can by done for now. Sca (talk) 18:17, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support good to go, come on admins, let's DO THIS THING. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:19, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

• Posted. Courcelles (talk) 18:32, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

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