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Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

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{{subst:NewDYKnom
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 | author     = User
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}}
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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on September 26

Ruck machine gun post

  • ... that Ruck machine gun posts were built from prefabricated sections, paving slabs, sandbags and rammed earth?

Created by Gaius Cornelius (talk). Self nom at 12:08, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good Times Roll

5x expanded by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 06:52, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mycena acicula, Mycena adonis, Mycena adscendens, Mycena cinerella, Mycena flavoalba, Mycena galopus, Mycena polygramma, Mycena sanguinolenta, Mycena stylobates, Mycena vitilis

slender mushroom with long thin yellowish stem and reddish-orange cap.

  • Comment: All articles except for the newly-created Mycena stylobates are 5x expansions. Hook should be easily verifiable by checking the document "Recommended English Names for Fungi in the UK" (linked in all articles), and confirming that the common names used here are valid. Thanks!

5x expanded by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 05:28, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mycena adscendens comes up only at 4.15x expansion for me. (620 B before, 2575 B after) It need 525 B added. The others are all 5x or more except the newly created article., and I did verify the common names are all correctly stated. Imzadi 1979 → 05:42, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mycena adscendens has been expanded enough. Imzadi 1979 → 06:08, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Heidenmauer

Created by Sadads (talk). Nominated by Self (talk) at 05:16, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SMS Kronprinz (1914)

A large, light gray warship sits motionless in a calm sea

5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 04:46, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Jack Kershaw

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 04:26, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 25

Sampi

  • ... that the archaic Greek letter Sampi (ϡ) has also been called san, enacosis, angma, sincope, charaktir, or even parakyisma, which literally means "spurious pregnancy"?
Old article, expanded (2,500 chars > 30,000 chars [1] by Fut.Perf.. Self-nom. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:30, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maria Brontë

Created by Clementina (talk). Self nom at 05:27, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • As I said on my profile, if MY edits are improvements, why should she be uncomfortable? We're all here to improve the encyclopedia. Are we not? Protector of Wiki (talk) 05:51, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chamelaucium, Eriostemon australasius

5x expanded by Casliber (talk), Poyt448 (talk). Self nom at 02:55, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Medieval invasions of Britain

Created by DCI2026 (talk). Self nom at 02:13, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: This really isn't ready for DYK yet in my opinion. However, I am going to help do some improvement on the article and the hook, perhaps other reviewers with historical interests could help too. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:23, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Bischoff

Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 00:26, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and sourcing for article and hook have been verified. Alansohn (talk) 01:30, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jo Andrews

Created by TheRetroGuy (talk). Nominated by TheRetroGuy (talk) at 23:09, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anastas Byku

Created by Aigest (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 23:04, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Beth Courtney

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 22:29, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT: ... that the National D-Day Museum honored Beth Courtney, president of Louisiana Public Broadcasting, for a three-hour tribute to World War II veterans in Louisiana?

Elias Abel House

A red wooden house, seen from the level of the grass

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 21:59, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


  • Comment I'm somewhat colorblind, so I can't be sure if the house is red or brown: if it's brown, please fix the alt and rollover texts. Nyttend (talk) 21:59, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Werner Güra

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 20:01, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Batra mine

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 16:06, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I don't see why this hook would be considered especially interesting or eye-catching to readers (presumably the purpose of a chromium mine is to produce lots of chromium), in addition to which the article only has a single source, and that single source is the Albanian government, which actually owned and operated the mine for most of the period in question. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:51, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes the purpose of a chromium mine is to produce chromium but i thought this might be interesting keeping in mind that this is a mine from a small fairly undeveloped country which used its own capital to exploit it without the help of large domestic or foreign companies and if you do the math you will see that it produced roughly 140,000 tonnes of ore per year which was more than 1% of the world's annual production. BineMai 11:10, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Arthur Cumming (Royal Navy officer)

An old man sitting on a chair wearing a suit and holding a top hat on his lap

Created by Dumelow (talk). Self nom at 15:47, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Coral Sea, Aipysurus duboisii

sea snake Laticauda colubrina

  • ... that the Coral Sea hosts at least 17 species of sea snake (example pictured), one being the most poisonous in the world?
  • Comment: The hook is in "Fauna" (5th paragraph) in the Coral Sea. this ref. is to confirm that the pictured sea snake (sea krait is subspecies of sea snakes) lives in the Coral Sea, and this is the ref. for 17 species (Great Coral Reef is a part of the Coral Sea).

Created/expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 13:29, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Ottoman–Mamluk War (1516–1517)

Abraham Ortelius - Tvrcici imperii descriptio

Created by Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Nominated by Per Honor et Gloria (talk) at 08:03, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Bangladesh-Bhutan relations

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 03:48, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vinnie Doyle

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Nominated by Candlewicke (talk) at 02:19, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Veal and ham pie

Created by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 01:46, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cruschedula

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 00:57, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 24

Coffee production in Papua New Guinea

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 09:50, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Somerset Hospital (Cape Town)

Battlemented yellow building

  • ... that the Somerset Hospital (pictured) in Cape Town has north and west wings named because of racial segregation rather than geographical position?

Created by Rodw (talk). Nominated by Rodw (talk) at 16:24, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and sourcing for article and hook have been verified. Alansohn (talk) 01:38, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Old Christ Church, Waterloo

The tower and part of the body of a sandstone church seen from the north between trees

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 13:14, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Jagiellonian tapestries

Tapestry with monogram of king Sigismund Augustus

Created by BurgererSF (talk) 10:11, 25 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 10:11, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

George E. Hearn

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:57, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT: ... that George E. Hearn was the first licensed industrial psychologist in his native Louisiana?


William M. Hanley

Created by Orygun (talk). Nominated by Orygun (talk) at 03:42, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Fabian Strategy (30 Rock)

Created by ThinkBlue (talk). Self nom at 23:49, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John Callan (judge)

man in his early 50s wearing a lawyers' wig and gown, standing in front of a book shelf

Created by Rick570 (talk), Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 23:43, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've added another photo. It's a cropped version of the first one and is square, which might lend itself better for the homepage. Schwede66 00:16, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

man in his early 50s wearing a lawyers' wig and gown, standing in front of a book shelf

Barford Court, Hove

A greyish-purple brick building with a reddish tiled roof and brown-framed sash windows, partly hidden behind a wall of the same bricks

  • ... that eccentric tycoon Ian Stuart Millar's seafront home (pictured) in Hove, England, was built of specially commissioned handmade bricks—the leftovers of which were reputedly buried elsewhere in Hove?
  • Comment: 200 chars with (pictured) ... but better hook wording is welcomed.

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 22:32, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


St Mary's Church, Elsing

Stone church with sqare tower and battlements seen against blue sky with white clouds

Created by Charlesdrakew (talk). Self nom at 21:10, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Erasmo Ramírez (right-handed pitcher)

Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 20:10, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dan Tyler Moore

Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 20:07, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Cosmic Landscape

  • ... that The Cosmic Landscape by Leonard Susskind is mainly about "the scientific explanations of the apparent miracles of physics and cosmology and its philosophical implications?"

Created by Derild4921 (talk). Self nom at 19:50, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Roddon

A sunny view of high-street Benwick which, according to Astbury, is built on a rodham

  • ALT1:... that rodham is one of three alternate spellings for roddon; an East Anglian word for the old course of a river?
  • ALT2:... that a silted-up old river bed is called a rodham in East Anglia?

Created by Senra (talk). Self nom at 19:47, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Tivoli Friheden

Description of the image

5x expanded by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 19:29, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The hook is in no way interesting or eye-catching (despite there being some very interesting historical background to the establishment that could have been used!), the only source for the article is the establishment's own website, and the article contains promotional blurb like, "For the visitors the park is like a zone of permanent free time." --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:21, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Also it's still marked as a stub. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:25, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Because the articles on fr-wiki and da-wiki are not well referenced, but I think I found a something:

ALT1 ... that Tivoli Friheden (pictured), an amusement park in Aarhus, has themed rock with runic scripture? Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 22:01, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


British and Colonial Films

Created by Ghmyrtle (talk). Self nom at 18:01, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"* Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 20:44, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen Varcoe

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 16:21, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speakers' Corner, Singapore

A brown wooden sign with the words "Speakers' Corner" in white next to a grassy field.

The expanded article was worked on in a sandbox and moved into the article namespace on 24 September 2010. — SMUconlaw (talk) 16:12, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5x expanded by Lee Huimin (talk), Libing.tan.2008 (talk), Redefreiheit (talk), Viknesh2010 (talk), and Smuconlaw (talk). Nominated by Smuconlaw (talk) at 16:00, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Kirklees Priory

Created/expanded by J3Mrs (talk). Self nom at 15:58, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mothers of the Disappeared

5x expanded by Melicans (talk). Self nom at 15:11, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hold On! (film)

Created by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 14:45, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Clarence River Light

Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 14:29, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Javad Alizadeh

A cartoon of Javad

  • ... that Iranian cartoonist Javad has created a scientific/philosophical cartoon on relativity theory titled 4D Humor (pictured)?

Created by Farhikht (talk). Nominated by Farhikht (talk) at 13:26, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • What is "a humor"? It is both in the hook and article. You need to find the correct word in English before this hook can be passed. Ericoides 14:33, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Reply on your talk page.Farhikht (talk) 14:54, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My answer is on yours. Ericoides 14:58, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Can someone else check this? I've become a bit too involved with it. Thanks, Ericoides 15:41, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Mirna Bridge

A view of the bridge curving across the Mirna River valley as seen from the road approaching the southern end of the bridge

Created by Tomobe03 (talk). Self nom at 12:42, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The article doesn't contain the claim ("the longest bridge on the A9") in the hook. Ericoides 13:11, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Guys, at least take a brief look at your articles before submitting here. Not only does it not contain the hook, there's broken non-breaking spaces and {{convert}} templates inside, it's a bit of a mess... — Toдor Boжinov — 14:05, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry about that. Fixed that and added more. Won't do two things at a time any more... promise.--Tomobe03 (talk) 18:29, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sophia Fresh

  • ... that girl group Sophia Fresh's debut single, "What It Is", impressed Rihanna so much that she wished the song was hers?

5x expanded by Cornucopia (talk). Self nom at 08:24, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Please note that previous revisions, although possibly containing more text, were in my sandbox and contained junk from the original, deleted version. Corn.u.co.pia • Disc.us.sion 08:28, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NGC 3109

A photograph of the galaxy NGC 3109

5x expanded by Reyk (talk). Self nom at 05:21, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Neuilly sa mère !

Created by Rjanag (talk). Self nom at 04:24, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • (the comparison between the two films is made in refs 1–3.) rʨanaɢ (talk) 04:25, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

George Munroe

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 02:53, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Nui Le

5x expanded by Newm30 (talk). Self nom at 01:07, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 23

Maria Esperanza de Bianchini

Created by Mamalujo (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 06:46, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ADEOS I

A large rocket lifting off from a launch pad

  • ... that the NASDA satellite ADEOS I (launch pictured) malfunctioned less than a year in orbit – a fate repeated by its successor six years later?

Created by User:Mattgirling (talk). Self nom at 17:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, date, source for hook, and picture all check out. Nice article. Reyk YO! 06:34, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Marty Amsler

  • ... that throughout Marty Amsler's entire NFL career he played in 37 games but never started a single one?

Created by Rockfang (talk). Self nom at 17:05, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Devils Brigade (album)

Created by IllaZilla (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 04:05, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • ALT1 ... that the "Devils Brigade" started on the Golden Gate Bridge and went halfway to hell? (Possible Halloween DYK? Could delete the halfway to hell bit, it's a bit of a stretch from one of the song titles) Le Deluge (talk) 13:39, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Military campaigns of Julius Caesar

Bust of Gaius Julius Caesar in the National Archaeological Museum of Naples

Created by RomanHistorian (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 04:05, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

--Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:52, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

America's Finest City Half Marathon

Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Nominated by MelanieN (talk) at 00:44, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Puszcza Piska

The Mute Swan

Created by Babia Góra (talk). Self nom at 16:47, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


James Eccles

Photo of Mont Blanc de Courmayeur

Created by Ericoides (talk). Self nom at 16:14, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Fitzroy Doll

Created by Jack1956 (talk). Nominated by Jack1956 (talk) at 14:56, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of Cardcaptor Sakura episodes

5x expanded by Juhachi (talk). Self nom at 08:35, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I think the wording of the hook sounds contrived. Normally you wouldn't say that "the episodes" premiered, but that the show premiered. I think it would be better with the word "episodes" removed, and then linking to the list from the later use of "episode". Here is what I would suggest: ... that when the anime Cardcaptor Sakura premiered on Kids' WB in North America, the first broadcast episode was the eighth? Calathan (talk) 17:22, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for the suggestion; I'll add it as an alternative.--十八 21:10, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Petra Noskaiová

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 07:04, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The hook is good, but the article has only 1193 characters in prose. Please expand the article. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 10:45, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chord Overstreet

Created by Yvesnimmo (talk). Nominated by Fetchcomms (talk) at 02:08, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ji-Man Choi

Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 00:32, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dead Timber State Recreation Area

Created by Dincher (talk). Self nom at 00:05, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of celebrity guest appearances on Neighbours

5x expanded by JuneGloom07 (talk). Self nom at 00:03, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • IMO the Andre Rieu thing is very dubious. I found the ref on the Digital Spy site, but that article refers to a LastBroadcast poll but without any link - I searched LastBroadcast and can find no evidence of this poll. I'd personally question that this should even be in the article, much less used for a DYK. Just naming someone as having made a guest appearance (like the Lily Allen one) seems to lack a bit of interest in itself - can you make it someone that did something interesting or noteworthy in their guest appearance perhaps? --jjron (talk) 10:47, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I just found the Last Broadcast poll. :) - JuneGloom07 Talk? 12:21, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
for the Clive James one (ALT 2). I'm new to DYK so not sure if I'm actually allowed to give the tick, but this seems to check out now (if not can someone drop me a note on my talkpage). Fair enough re the poll, still I find using a random webpoll as the basis of a DYK a bit unconvincing. The Clive James thing seems more like what I was thinking - reasonably well known beyond just Australia, and played a slightly peculiar role (you could even add in that he was 'mute' (from the Hardy article - though I'd say in real terms more like a non-speaking role)). I love the Fleety one - actually wondered why that wasn't there when I first checked the article - but TBH I think it'd be more accurate to call his appearance in the late-80s more that of B-grade extra than a 'guest appearance' (look if he had have been reprising his famous 'Delivery Man 2' role from Prisoner say, then maybe... ;) - I also added in the article that this incident lead to Daphne's death, which her article also mentions, but without a specific ref). Well done. --jjron (talk) 11:08, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mangia

  • ... that in the extremely rare 1983 video game Mangia, the player controls a boy whose mother attempts to feed him so much pasta that his stomach will explode?

Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 22:02, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • - great work! I suggest adding the screen shot to the nomination if it is eligible. Very interesting little slice of video game history. Dincher (talk) 01:27, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks! Unfortunately, I can't think of any images that wouldn't be fair-use. 28bytes (talk) 02:34, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Church of All Souls, Bolton

A broad church in brick with stone dressings, seen from the northeast, with a canted apse, a crocketted pinnacle, and in the distance a tower, also with crocketted pinnacles

5x expanded by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 20:46, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


eight articles

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 20:01, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The 1.6% figure seems to be based on the figure for chromium reserves in The Limits to Growth which was published almost 40 years ago, which cannot be accurate anymore, because they will have either shrunk as we've used it up, or grown as we've found more. The US Geological Service may have some relevant information on this in one of the reports found here. Even then though, I'm not entirely sure whether it is original research to do the calculations to make the percentage figure for the hook. Can anyone advise? Smartse (talk) 23:24, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • It may fall under WP:CALC, and if in a "Notes" section, you showed a fully referenced calculation, because I assume it reduces to simply averaging percentages, I think it may be okay. - Theornamentalist (talk) 02:41, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Added two more mines and changed the hook. BineMai 15:14, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Church of St Demetrius, Patalenitsa; Patalenitsa

A medieval church constructed of stone and brickwork with the entrance and dome visible standing in a grassy area with wooded mountains in the background

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Nominated by TodorBozhinov (talk) at 19:57, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Grove Church Cemetery

  • ALT1:... that Robert Gardner's metallic coffin was found opened, removed from the shelf upon which it sat in a granite, iron barred and locked vault at Grove Church Cemetery, and no one was sure why?

5x expanded by Theornamentalist (talk). Nominated by Theornamentalist (talk) at 19:47, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Early life and career of Julius Caesar

Created by RomanHistorian (talk). Self nom at 17:36, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Actually I did know that :) So many exciting alternatives here, though;
ALT1 ... that for a period of Julius Caesar's early career, he was not permitted to touch a horse, sleep three nights outside his own bed or one night outside Rome, or look upon an army?
--Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:53, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2 ... that during Julius Caesar's early career, he gave up his betrothal to the woman he'd been engaged to since boyhood, in order to become a priest?
(this ALT2 only any use if it's OK for a front page fact to be sourced to Suetonius) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:09, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT3 ... that in Julius Caesar's early career, he spent so long at the court of King Nicomedes that Plutarch, Suetonius and Cassius Dio mention rumours of an affair between the two men?
--Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:15, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT4 ... ... that at age 25 Julius Caesar was captured by pirates, but after being ransomed, chased them, captured them, and had them crucified?
--Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:23, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • About the article, though, if this is appropriate here. First, there is no wikilink for the man himself in the article that I could see. Second, I wonder if there is precedent for forking out the early part of the life of a person. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 19:34, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes it should have a wikilink to the main article. At least some sentences (but not paragraphs) seem to be identical to material already in the main article. (But, that may be partly because they are simply using the same sources.) However, there seems to be concensus (or at least a biumvirate :) on the main article's talk page that a separate article on the early life is the way to go. I agree with what's said there - the main article is, appropriately enough, written in a style much more approachable to the layman, whereas this one, by contrast, goes into more detail (and seems intended to be the first of a series I guess.)
Another ALT to add, if someone wants to give it a try, is Caesar telling his pirate captors that the ransome they are demanding for him, is much too small. But I forget how well it's sourced and it sounds oddly familiar somehow (other people adopted the same approach later?) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:14, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I corrected the wikilink issue. I like ALT3 the best. It would probably draw the most attention. And Caesar told his captors that they should be able to get a ransom of at least double what they first wanted.RomanHistorian (talk) 03:05, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
FWIW, I found ALT3 the least interesting, ALT2 was probably the most surprising for me but it could do with a copyedit. Le Deluge (talk) 10:32, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm OK with any of them.RomanHistorian (talk) 14:30, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jim Cardwell

Created by Jenks24 (talk). Self nom at 14:59, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • A lot of sports club officials serve for a fairly long time (or indeed a very long time), so this is really not all that eye-catching. Just to try to add a bit more interest and variety, how about;
ALT1 ... that Jim Cardwell was the secretary of the Melbourne Football Club for 25 years, but also ran an engineering business and had previously been a soldier and a successful debater?
ALT2 ... that Jim Cardwell gave up his engineering business to become full-time secretary for Melbourne Football Club, a post he held for 25 years?
--Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:47, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the suggestions, they're both better than what I had originally. But how about either:
ALT3 ... that Jim Cardwell was part of the Melbourne Football Club's "backbone of steel", which contributed to the club winning six premierships in 14 years?
ALT4 ... that Jim Cardwell was the secretary of the Melbourne Football Club for 25 years and he became known as the "Prince of Secretaries"?
Jenks24 (talk) 07:20, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of World Heritage Sites in Peru

Machu Picchu

Created by Grsz11 (talk). Nominated by Grsz11 (talk) at 14:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Count of the Stable

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 13:49, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wat Pasantidhamma

Created by Rlevse (talk). Self nom at 10:06, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agree Alt2 is better than main, but think alt1 is also acceptable — Rlevse • Talk • 14:14, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

American Honda Motor Company

Headquarters of American Honda

Created by Jeff Bedford (talk). Nominated by Zunaid (talk) at 08:17, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The article was created on 17 September (not 23 September). It should be moved lower. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 16:39, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Check the history. It was only moved from user space to main space today. Zunaid 16:44, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • My mistake, I think the article is good. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 17:36, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Linn Duachaill

  • ... that one of the best-preserved Viking settlements in Europe, Linn Duachaill, was founded at the same time as Dublin, in the 840s, and was unearthed and identified in September 2010?

Created by Drmies (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 04:31, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Twycross

Created by Hordesofkreuser (talk). Nominated by Mono (talk) at 01:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article currently has an orphan tag, I confirmed no inter-article links as well, and the "best known" portion of the hook is not cited where it is found in the lead. --NortyNort (Holla) 11:18, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hildegard Laurich

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 07:04, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 22

Self-portrait (Thomas Eakins)

Self-portrait, Thomas Eakins. 1902. Oil on canvas.

  • ... that in Thomas Eakins' Self-portrait (pictured), the contrast between his formal attire and his unkempt grooming alludes to a rebellious nature restrained by cultural mores?

Created by JNW (talk). Nominated by Mandarax (talk) at 06:49, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Verified. Offline references AGF. Interesting hook.--NortyNort (Holla) 11:10, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Richard Cantillon

  • Comment: Expanded over a period of two days. Originally, the article was at about 8kB in length, however it was deleted for plagiarism. At the time I began editing it it was therefore essentially non-existent. I expanded it to over 40kB, so either way it should meet the length requirement.

5x expanded by Catalan (talk). Nominated by Catalan (talk) at 04:19, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Noosa National Park

5x expanded by Shiftchange (talk). Self nom at 02:52, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The source for the hook is a quote from a guy from "Tourism Noosa" - couldn't this be considered a less than reliable source? Can this claim be backed up by an independent source? --jjron (talk) 17:25, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Figure and sentence has been clarified with another more reliable source, a media release from the relevant Queensland government department. - Shiftchange (talk) 00:49, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not meaning to be a pain the backside, but the second ref says "the national park...receives over one million visits each year", but doesn't actually specify that it's the most visited park in the country, and that's the part that concerns me. If I'm reading right the figures are a bit 'soft' anyway, as they're basically counting anyone that goes down to the beach from Noosa town as a NP 'visitor', which I'm not sure is really the spirit of the thing, so not really a fair comparison - like I mean how many people actually say "I'm going for a trip to Noosa National Park" as opposed to those that specifically go somewhere like Kakadu, Cradle Mountain, Wilsons Prom or the Blue Mountains? Surely that would be a truer measure of the park's appeal? Perhaps you could use a hook more like:
ALT1 ... that Noosa National Park in Australia receives more than 1 million visitors a year? --jjron (talk) 11:28, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actua

Created by KT44 (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 18:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gros-Mécatina, Quebec

Gros-Mécatina

5x expanded by P199 (talk). Nominated by P199 (talk) at 16:47, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Soulless (novel), Changeless (novel), Blameless (novel)

Created by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 11:24, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Murray Sayle

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 01:05, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SweeTango (apple)

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 23:14, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Darius Dhlomo

Created by Uncle G (talk), Sillyfolkboy (talk). Nominated by Sillyfolkboy (talk) at 22:23, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • ALT1 is much nicer, I've trimmed "match". Not sure that the name of the club adds much? Le Deluge (talk) 10:37, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The important thing is that it was outside South Africa hence the Apartheid laws did not apply. You need to mention "debut for Dutch club" to point out it's his first time (and hence first changing room etiquette experience) outside of South Africa. The name of the club then only adds two extra words. The other important point about that particular football club was that another South African, Steve Mokone (who joined them a few years before Dhlomo's time), was the first black football player in the Netherlands ever. It ties things together, closing the loop between black South African footballers and the Netherlands in a kind of neat way I think. Zunaid 22:47, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oh I totally get the significance of it being a debut, and it being for a non-SA club. But we're writing newspaper headlines here, and every surplus word dilutes attention away from the main subject of the hook, people can read the article to get the details. I think your argument about Mokone is overcomplicating things - anyone who knew enough about Dutch football to know what club Mokone played for, would probably be aware of what Dhlomo played for, and if they don't get the Mokone reference, it's just distraction. Le Deluge (talk) 14:11, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The only other phrasing I can think of is to replace "...on his debut for Dutch club Heracles Almelo..." with "...before his first match for a foreign club..." which gains zero words but costs us a potentially interesting article link that Dutch readers may be able to improve upon. I think we're splitting hairs, to me the wording looks fine but maybe I'm just not seeing an obvious way to reduce the blurb. Please feel free to suggest an ALT 2. Zunaid 20:29, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Inocybe maculata

Three stout, brown mushrooms with prominent umbos and a white substance on the cap growing from soil. One is lying down, revealing the gills.

Created by J Milburn (talk). Self nom at 18:05, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


3 Deewarein

5x expanded by Mspraveen (talk). Self nom at 17:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Joyce Beber

  • ... that Leona Helmsley hired Joyce Beber to promote her hotels and fired her four times, including once after Helmsley was convicted for income tax evasion and blamed Beber for having raised her profile?

Created by Bongomatic (talk), Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:02, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Clarence Seamans

Created by Elcobbola (talk). Self nom at 15:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ned Sutton

Created by Jenks24 (talk). Self nom at 14:51, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Paycheck Fairness Act

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 14:43, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

St Andrew's Church, East Heslerton

A stone church seen from the northeast with a broad tower and spire, a chancel with an apse and, between them a small vestry

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 14:36, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


HIP Petrohemija

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 14:21, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, date and hook all check out. Well done. Reyk YO! 06:43, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hornby Lighthouse

Hornby Lighthouse, a tapered circular structure painted with red and white vertical stripes, with a white balcony and railing, and glass lantern.

5x expanded by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 11:24, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Flags (album)

Created by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 09:39, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kenneth Strong

5x expanded by Hawkeye7 (talk) 09:14, 22 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 09:13, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, sourcing and expansion of article and hook have been verified. Alansohn (talk) 12:53, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Beaufort Sea

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 06:28, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • By my count prose not quite expanded 5 fold: original character count about 2400, current count about 10880. Good additions though! -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 17:05, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hm. DYK check confirms 5x expansion and says the preexpansion versions are below 2k of prose. Materialscientist (talk) 23:21, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • You could push it a little higher by mentioning the Amauligak project. Uncle G (talk) 23:52, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • And if that doesn't get you much, there's stuff to be had from doi:10.1029/2009GL041434, and the reports (such as this) based upon it. Uncle G (talk) 23:57, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        Added bits on both topics, that pushed the prose count to above 12k. Materialscientist (talk) 06:07, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've wikified the hook and turned US > United States of America. Smartse (talk) 23:27, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

HMS Hector (1862)

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 05:21, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • article expansion and hook length have been verified. Sourcing is all off line and is accepted in good faith. Alansohn (talk) 17:53, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Butcher, the Chef and the Swordsman

Created by Andrzejbanas (talk). Nominated by Andrzejbanas (talk) at 03:24, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 21

Instinto Asesino

5x expanded by Lionelt (talk). Self nom at 00:14, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Devil's acre

The Devil's Acre in the shadows of Palace of Westminster

Created by User:SasiSasi (talk). Self nom at 22:58, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've fixed up this incorrectly completed nom and will ask the nominator to add a caption for the image. Should be able to make a good halloween hook out of this, me thinks. Smartse (talk) 23:31, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Star Trek Concordance

  • ... that at one time, the Star Trek Concordance was the best-selling trade edition book published in the United States. But due to the publisher's concerns, at the time, of waning interest in Star Trek, it was decided to not reprint the book?

Created by Lionelt (talk). Self nom at 22:07, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • ALT1 ... that in the mid-70s, the Star Trek Concordance and The Making of Star Trek were the only references used by writers of the Star Trek television show?

Manuel Ascencio Padilla, Padilla, Bolivia

Created by Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 03:46, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pascalization

Created by Fetchcomms (talk). Self nom at 02:19, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Verified. Interesting article. There's an Orphan tag, but as far as I know, that doesn't affect the DYK eligibility. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 08:40, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The orphan issue has been addressed FWIW. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 01:22, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Brett Beavers

Created by J04n (talk). Self nom at 01:21, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Albany Diner

Miss Albany Diner photographed in 2010, a single-storey building in the shape of a railroad car, with an Art Deco facade in cream and maroon stripes.

Created by Voceditenore (talk). Self nom at 13:33, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • While "Lil's Diner" may be the name used for the NRHP nom, the place has been known as "Miss Albany Diner" since the late 1980s and few people call it (or would recognize it) as Lil's. I just moved the article to Miss Albany Diner and consequently changed the name used in the DYK nom as well. upstateNYer 22:26, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fathi Osman

  • ... that The New York Times cited as "monumental" the 1997 book Concepts of the Quran: A Topical Reading by Fathi Osman, in which he explained concepts in Islam for non-Muslims?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 12:50, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bergens TF

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 09:18, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Paul De Villiers

Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 04:50, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Byron Cook

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:58, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

World Golf Village

Hall of Fame at World Golf Village

5x expanded by Mgreason (talk). Self nom at 01:14, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

CatholicVote.org

Created by BS24 (talk). Nominated by Lionelt (talk) at 22:20, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • For some of us in Europe and other places, a "pro-life spot" would be a place where people plant and nurture trees. Not saying there is anything wrong with the hook, but it may not be as immediately understood as you might think - at least outside the advertising industry, and in some parts of the world. I guess "spot" means "commercial placement", or something like that? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 03:20, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • As the article creator and reviewer are both catholic, there is a potential COI in advertising a catholic website on the wikipedia front page Jebus989✰ 16:01, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The nom looks like he may have Catholic leanings as well  ;) Lionel (talk) 21:21, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • As someone with a fair amount of experience with dealing with COIs I can definitely say that it doesn't apply here, they would have to be affiliated with the website themselves, which there is no evidence that they do AFAICT. That said, I agree with Demiurge1000 that "a pro-life spot" probably won't be understood by readers outside of the US. I suggest something along the lines of:

ALT1 ... that an anti-abortion movement commercial, featuring a depiction of President Barack Obama, was CatholicVote.org's first advertisement and recorded over 700,000 hits?

Can you add what the hits where on as well? I assume youtube but it really isn't clear. Someone more BLP inclined may also want to decide whether this is overly negative towards Obama as well. Smartse (talk) 23:56, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure whether commercial is the right word - is video or campaign better? Smartse (talk) 23:58, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Littlejohn

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 20:31, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Verified, although the Gillespie cite is from reference 2, not ref 3 where it is currently sourced. Gatoclass (talk) 05:28, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lucernaria janetae

Created by Ka Faraq Gatri (talk). Self nom at 17:59, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The source doesn't appear to support the hook, it only says the habitat is "unusual". Gatoclass (talk) 05:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hmm. On reflection the hook is best supported from this reference From The Desk of Zelnio: Lucernaria janetae but I'm not sure if it would pass WP:RS being a blog (all be it one that appears to be written by scientists). Anything beyond that is really WP:OR e.g. Collins and Daly's tentative identification of Lutz 1998's population as L. janetae (that paper states that it is "the first time a representative of the class Scyphozoa (Cnidaria) has been encountered in a hydrothermal vent"). Also there's the failure of Collins and Daly to compare L. janetae with other vent dwelling Stauromedusae (something I'd expect given their comparisons with other Stauromedusae that aren't vent dwelling) and the failure of subsequent publications to mention any other named vent dwelling Stauromedusae species - but again it's WP:OR. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 13:11, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 ... that Lucernaria janetae has eight lance-shaped gonads? Smartse (talk) 21:06, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed. --Stemonitis (talk) 09:15, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Church of St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, St Mary's Church, Purton, St Andrew's Church, Wanborough

Created by Belovedfreak (talk). Self nom at 16:25, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fântânele-Cogealac Wind Farm

5x expanded by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 13:51, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article and hook length have been verified. The article is well-sourced, but the specific source used to back the hook states that it is "a wind farm which the backers claim is the largest project of its kind in Europe", which makes it seem that the reference is just repeating a claim, rather than having verified it. It's also not clear that the source meets WP:RS. Is there any other reliable and verifiable source that supports the claim or might there be an alternate hook with stronger sourcing? If I read the translation correctly, this source from Adevărul would back the claim, but an English language source would always be preferred. Alansohn (talk) 18:02, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Found an English ref. BineMai 20:56, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've reorganised the hook a little. Here's another ref, just wanted to check that this isn't too crystally before ticking it off. Personally I think it is ok as it is half built already. Smartse (talk) 00:27, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Çubuk-1 Dam

5x/nom by --NortyNort (Holla) 12:34, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Missa (Bach)

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 07:54, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Amar la Trama

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 07:28, 21 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 07:27, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Monte Robbins

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:36, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article and hook length and sourcing have been verified. Alansohn (talk) 19:57, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gene Swick

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 04:49, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and sourcing verified for article and hook. Alansohn (talk) 20:08, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

HMS Defence (1861)

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 04:25, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Empire State

Created by UpstateNYer (talk). Nominated by UpstateNYer (talk) at 03:26, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cape Parry

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 03:09, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Diamond Valley Lake

5x expanded by Lvi56 (talk). Self nom at 20:03, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The article was 7,467 characters in length when expansion started and is 9,950 characters now, well short of the 5x minimum. Is there any possibility of substantial further expansion of the article to the 37K it would have to reach per DYK rules? Alansohn (talk) 18:07, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • after reviewing the article it looks like I will not be able to expand it to the needed length. Lvi56 (talk) 18:31, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on September 20

Somerset Space Walk

Large yellow sphere part hidden by the brick parapet of a canal bridge

Created by EdJogg (talk). Nominated by EdJogg (talk) at 01:31, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Hudson Bay expedition (1686)

Created by Magicpiano (talk). Self nom at 14:40, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Erickson

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 04:16, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Frédéric Chopin's illness

Created by Filip em (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 03:23, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for appreciating the text, but please consider User:Filip em as its author. The article, as I mentioned in the "describe changes" section while creating, is almost entirely his work. I've only put it here on his behalf, adding some links. Gregory of nyssa (talk) 18:02, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I've modified the nom so Filip em is credited as the article's creator. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 04:08, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Western Cemetery (Portland, Maine)

  • ... that when a number of tombs were opened at the Western Cemetery in Portland, Maine, nothing was found inside and no record was made of where the remains went? (this might be a candidate for Halloween?)

Created by Namiba (talk). Nominated by Namiba (talk) at 03:03, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • 22 characters short of the 1500 limit at the moment (headers don't count) can you find any more information? Smartse (talk) 15:43, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I sure can. I will expand it shortly.--TM 18:25, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's expanded to be long enough now. If we're going for Halloween:
ALT1 ...that when opened, the Longfellow tomb at the Western Cemetery in Portland, Maine, was empty, when it should have contained the parents of Henry Wadsworth Longfellow?
Not quite sure if this is scary enough though. Smartse (talk) 19:56, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hodo Sokoli

  • ... that Hodo Sokoli, a 19th century Albanian freedom fighter, publicly removed his Ottoman insignia and uniform and put on an Albanian dress?

Created by ZjarriRrethues (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 21:17, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Book accessible only through google snippet view acepted in good faith. Reyk YO! 08:53, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

North Main Street School

A two-story brick building seen from its left, with a bare tree in front on that corner. It has many large windows, two entrances with decorative stone trim and a point in the center of the roof. The U.S. and POW-MIA flags are flying from a flagpole in front.

  • Comment: Fivefold text expansion

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 19:13, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

bacha posh

  • ... that a practice in Afghanistan, where a daughter in a family without sons is dressed in male clothing and acts as a boy, allowing her to do things she could not do as a girl, is called bacha posh?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:44, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Verified, added a comma and changed couldn't > could not in the hook. Smartse (talk) 16:20, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Evangelical School of Smyrna

Created by Alexikoua (talk). Self nom at 11:54, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Hannum

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Nominated by Ktr101 (talk) at 02:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is this person notable? I see coverage in one local newspaper, the university website and no inherent notability.--TM 03:11, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hook fact is not present in article. Article lacks sufficient referencing, especially for a BLP. - Dravecky (talk) 03:26, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note I wasn't trying to establish that at the time. I think if you talk to most percussionists they would know of him but I will get on top of the one source thing in the next day or so. Sorry about that. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 15:48, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

George N. Parks Drum Major Academy

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Nominated by Ktr101 (talk) at 01:50, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • At last check, the article was just past 1,200 characters of prose, short of the 1,500 required. It might make more sense to include the material in this article in the parent George N. Parks rather than stretching to create an article about the academy he created. Alansohn (talk) 17:49, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'll get on it later today as I know that I can add more material. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 04:05, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

George N. Parks Marching Band Building

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Nominated by Ktr101 (talk) at 00:30, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article text appears to contradict hook facts, article is sourced to a single press release, and subject building may not meet WP:GNG. - Dravecky (talk) 03:33, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Donald W. Davis

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:48, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ottoman-Mamluk War (1485–1491)

Mamluk cavalry

Created/expanded by Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Nominated by Per Honor et Gloria (talk) at 13:28, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Leonard Skinner

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:17, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and sourcing of article and hook have been verified. Alansohn (talk) 20:02, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ollie E. Brown

5x expanded by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 03:19, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Events of 1807-08

alt2 = ... that the Janissaries staged their last successful coups against Ottoman sultans during the Events of 1807-08? --> Created by DCI2026 (talk). Self nom at 23:50, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shirgj Monastery

  • ... that when people would get buried within the ruins of the Shirgj Monastery the gravediggers would often encounter old mosaics of the old church?

Created by Sulmues (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 21:32, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • (shorter)... that within the ruins of the Shirgj Monastery in northern Albania the gravediggers would often encounter mosaics from the old church?
Fine with me. --Sulmues (talk) 22:21, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length and date are all good, but Google Translate doesn't do a good job on the hook reference, so AFG on that one. Shorter hook is better, though it wouldn't hurt to add "in northern Albania" or something, just to give the reader some context as to where Shirgj is. — Toдor Boжinov — 15:00, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Done--Sulmues (talk) 15:01, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anina mine and Crivina Power Station

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 21:27, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that the Anina mine supplied Crivina Power Station with oil shale?
I'm not 100% sure if this is correct though as it's not explicitly mentioned in the articles at the moment, can you see if it is mentioned in this ref? If it isn't the original hook needs changing, since it is not the oldest mine, but the longest running operational mine. Smartse (talk) 16:41, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The ref you supplied indeed states that the power station was supplied with oil shale from Anina. BineMai 17:40, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Added the ref to the Crivina article aswell and i'm going with your ALT. BineMai 17:45, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The mine article says it "was intended to supply Crivina Power Station" and the power station article says "it was supposed to be supplied with ... oil shale ... from the nearby Anina mine". Do the refs state that the mine did actually supplt the power station though? (I've removed the second nom and added the DYKmake template to this one). Smartse (talk) 00:07, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The mine did actually supply the power station for four years but the power station only used one 330 MW generation unit because the oil shale was of very low caloric quality. BineMai 11:28, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Can you change the articles to make that clear? At the moment it looks as if the hook is incorrect when you read the articles. Smartse (talk) 00:01, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Changed both the articles. BineMai 14:42, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Red-and-yellow Barbet

A bird with a yellow breast, red head and black sides with white spots sat on a branch.

  • ... that while Red-and-yellow Barbets (male pictured) are tame in areas where they are not persecuted, they are hunted by the Maasai for their feathers?

5x expanded by J Milburn (talk). Nominated by J Milburn (talk) at 18:55, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


The Park Centre for Mental Health

created by CybergothiChé (talk). Self nom at 1:41, 21 September 2010 (AEST)

Joe A. Guerra

  • ... that Joe A. Guerra, a 20-year member of the Laredo, Texas, City Council, once grabbed a shovel to remove a dead animal from an inquiring constitutent's residence?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 00:11, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


ALT:that Joe A. Guerra, an active Republican in heavily Democratic Laredo, Texas, won five elections to the city council but on the nonpartisan ballot required for municipal offices in his state?

David Sibley (Texas politician)

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 23:52, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ann Dexter Gordon

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 23:07, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Olaf Kullmann

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 21:13, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alessandro Portelli

Created by Dwalls (talk). Self nom at 20:13, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

White Knuckles

  • ... that the band OK Go's music video for "White Knuckles" is a one-shot take of the band interacting with twelve trained dogs and a goat?

Created by Masem (talk). Self nom at 18:18, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article and hook length and sourcing have been verified. I can only expect dogs on treadmills next. Alansohn (talk) 03:08, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • They actually were planning to use the goat on the treadmill but decided against that...--MASEM (t) 22:23, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Operation Pike

Created by Martintg (talk). Self nom at 18:06, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: This is great, and has me falling over myself in excitement. It does however have only one source for the entire article. Would it be possible to find a second? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 03:25, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well it would be great to find more sources, but it is a very obscure topic. The source used, Osborn's book Operation Pike. Britain Versus the Soviet Union, 1939-1941 is very well regarded. For example Keith Neilson (who himself is a Professor of history and author of several books on Anglo-Russian relations[2]) reviewed the book in the academic journal "Diplomacy and Statecraft". He writes: "Osborn, an archivist for the American National Archives and Records Administration, has provided a very useful study of British policy towards the Soviet Union from 1939 to 1941 and, in particular, of the little-known Anglo-french plans to attack the Soviet Union in the period from September 1939 to June 1940."
In conclusion, Neilson writes: "This is a very good book on a limited topic. It does not promise more than it deliveres, its documentary base is exemplary and its conclusions are judicious and carefully considered."
--Martin (talk) 04:59, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sounds good.
  • What do you think of this as an alternative hook;
ALT1 ... that the Nazis claimed the successful Blitzkrieg against France in 1940 saved the Soviet Union from an allied strategic bombing campaign called Operation Pike?
(I also considered replacing "allied" with "Anglo-French" but I think keeping the wider term makes it potentially more eye-catching) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Another thing - I'm not sure the picture can be used, since we'd need to say something like "against Soviet oil facilities (example pictured)" which makes the hook rather more clumsy and also takes away some of the mystery. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:38, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yep, that alternate hook is better, so I've updated it. You are probably right about the image too. --Martin (talk) 01:16, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

William Coblentz (California)

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:18, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Jenkins Onderdonk

Fall of the Alamo

Created/expanded by Adrienlenoir (talk) and Drmies (talk) at 17:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Verified. I didn't see a source for the birthplace, so I added one. I added a "pictured", but feel free to reword and/or move that. I also upgraded the credit for Drmies from DYKnom to DYKmake, as his substantial expansion made the DYK possible. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:58, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Mecklenburg's Garden

5x expanded by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 13:24, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gaza Baptist Church

created by User:AMuseo and User:CMBJ (talk) (talk) . Nominated by User:AMuseo (talk) 20 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm admittedly biased as a person who contributed to the article, but I concur that this would make an interesting DYK entry.   — C M B J   22:40, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article and hook length and sourcing have been verified. Article is currently at AfD (see here), which needs to be resolved before this nomination can proceed. Alansohn (talk) 18:55, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alfred Marshall Bailey

Created by Maias (talk). Self nom at 11:54, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Source and length verified. Good to go.--Sulmues (talk) 15:10, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dodge Morgan

  • ... that radar detector millionaire Dodge Morgan at age 54 sailed solo around the globe without stops in 150 days, shattering the prior record of 292 days?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 06:17, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article and hook sourcing and length verified. Alansohn (talk) 17:22, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Arthur's Quest: Battle for the Kingdom

Created by Nomader (talk). Self nom at 06:07, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pahuk

Created by Ammodramus (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 04:33, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Khao Phing Kan + Andaman Sea

James Bond Island James Bond Island Eruption of the Barren Island volcano in 1995. Andaman Islands are 90 km away.

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 03:56, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • ... that James Bond Island (pictured) is protected by sharks? (not currently reffed, but should be easy? Might even be able to flip it the other way, saying something about the sharks being protected? <g>) I suspect that the average viewer might have a better idea where "off southern Thailand" was than the Andaman Sea? Le Deluge (talk) 12:10, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I could add Andaman Sea to ALT1 (which I need), but I can't imagine how an island can be protected by sharks. Those are rather shallow waters and while looking for literature on that island, I haven't seen anything on sharks. Please clarify. Is it from James Bond movie? Materialscientist (talk) 22:37, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sharks are mentioned in the sea in the Flora and fauna section (albeit not currently reffed, should be doable); it's a common theme in Bond films for the baddie's lair to contain a pool of sharks that people are thrown into, and those who try to rush the baddie's chair end up swimming with the sharks, so the idea of sharks protecting the baddy is a common image. Don't add Andaman Sea to ALT1, the simpler the better - and I suspect most people have either not heard of it or have at best a hazy idea of where it is, so it's not helping the hook. Le Deluge (talk) 01:29, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks, but I prefer to stay with real world and real facts. Andaman sea article currently does not mention sharks. They might be there, but I doubt there are many around Khao Phing Kan. I fully agree that the simpler the better, but I have expanded Andaman Sea too for this DYK; surely I could split this nom into two, but given the backlog, I would keep them as a double. Materialscientist (talk) 01:45, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's mentioned in the Khao Phing Kan#Flora and fauna section. I'm sorry, I hadn't sussed that this was a double DYK though. Still, if the most interesting thing about the island is the James Bond link, then sharks is a very hooky way to get people reading the articles. Le Deluge (talk) 02:07, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just saying, personally I like the original hook the best– it got me to click on both of them. With the state of the backlog, it'd be much preferable as well to have a double hook rather than split them up. Nomader (Talk) 18:14, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

M-6 (Michigan highway)

  • ... that during the "Southbelt Shuffle" event on M-6 south of Grand Rapids, Michigan, horses were ridden on the partially completed freeway?

5x expanded by Imzadi1979 (talk). Self nom at 03:15, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ontario Highway 9

5x expanded by Floydian (talk). Self nom at 02:32, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • All checked out. Added the Orangeville link. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 17:23, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 19

Sirmilik National Park

Sirmilk National Park

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 11:11, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • By my count (from the last revision prior to Blofield's expansion on Sept. 19) prose not quite expanded 5 fold: original character count about 1650, current count about 7700. Good additions though! -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 17:10, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The edit prior to the beginning of expansion was on June 9, when the article had 337 characters of prose. After the expansion which began September 19, it's currently at 7559. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:52, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, you are right, I should have counted from June 9. Sorry for the oversight. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 20:09, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thado Minsaw of Prome, Prome Kingdom

Created by Hybernator (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 15:11, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Formerly the Warlocks

Created by Mudwater (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 14:54, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

September War for Šibenik

Created by Jesuislafete (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 23:30, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Family (Blumenfeld)

Created by Claudiamoon (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 20:48, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sopwith Cobham

Created by Nigel Ish (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 20:30, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Port Phillip District Special Surveys

Created by Billingd (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 19:53, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anton von Zach

Created by Djmaschek (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 19:38, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

George W. Rice

Created by Innapoy (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 19:27, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Colt Model 1878

A pair of revolvers

Created by Engineer comp geek (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 19:16, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2010 Slovenia floods

Flooding in Slovenia

  • ... that severe floods, one of the worst in country's history, affected Slovenia last weekend?
  • Comment: ALT 1 ... that heavy rains in mid-September 2010 caused flooding in many parts of Slovenia, including the capital Ljubljana (pictured).

There are several free photos available in the article, I leave the choice to the evaluating admin. Created by Tone (talk). Self nom at 15:21, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and date OK, and foreign-lang refs AGF for ALT 1 (I've tweaked the hook). Ericoides 17:08, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rodolph Crandall

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Nominated by Aboutmovies (talk) at 05:16, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Islamization of the Gaza Strip

created by User:AMuseo User:Marokwitz (talk).([[User talk:Markowitz|talk}} Nominated by User:AMuseo (talk) 21 September 2010 (UTC)


Enough Is Enough (organization)

  • ... that as a leader of the anti-Internet pornography organization Enough Is Enough, a former political sex scandal "other woman" became an influential Washington, D.C., lobbyist?

Created by Wasted Time R (talk). Self nom at 02:39, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Golden Submarine

Created by Chipguy21 (talk), Royalbroil (talk). Nominated by Royalbroil (talk) at 02:17, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • If the ALT is selected, then the fact that this is a car not a submarine should be included. Another key point is that this car debuted in 1917 - because it's not very fast by today's standards. Royalbroil 13:43, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • No - that's a really bad idea. The whole point of DYK is to intrigue people into clicking through to read the new article, and a bit of misdirection can really help to pique people's interest. A 100mph submarine is surprising and will get a lot of clickthroughs, a 100mph car is much less interesting, even for 1917. Le Deluge (talk) 14:06, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thriasian Plain

Created by Athenean (talk). Nominated by Athenean (talk) at 19:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Batoufam

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 14:09, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Verified 5x expansion and citation verifies the content. Royalbroil 02:18, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

San Juan de Silicia

Created by Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk). Self nom at 09:03, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eastern Promenade

View of Casco Bay from the Eastern Promenade Park

Created by Namiba (talk). Nominated by Namiba (talk) at 04:11, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mount Pleasant (Indian Falls, New York)

A square white house with green window shutters, wide overhanging eaves and a small square tower in the middle of the roof seen from a corner angle

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 03:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Christian bookstore, Gaza

  • ... that the only Christian bookstore in Gaza closed after its owner was beaten and murdered by armed extremists?

created by User:AMuseo (talk). Nominated by User:AMuseo (talk) 20 September 2010 (UTC)

  • The source stating that it was the only such bookstore, should be specifically cited in the article, if it is in the hook. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done.AMuseo (talk) 11:50, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A glance at the article or at the AFD will show the baselessness of the AFD.AMuseo (talk) 11:50, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If an article is nominated for deletion, the DYK nomination remains in the queue until the discussion is closed. Then it gets reviewed for DYK. I wouldn't be worried if I were you. Royalbroil 02:12, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Canadian Air-Sea Transportable Brigade Group

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 23:25, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hook is 252 characters, well over the 200 allowed. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 00:12, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
*Also, USST may refer to:, the United States Ski Team, the University of Saskatchewan Space Design Team, or the University of Shanghai for Science and Technology, China; is USSR intended? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:20, 20 September 2010 (UTC) Someone fixed that part --Demiurge1000 (talk) 08:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, that was me, I fixed both issues and failed to post a note. Maury Markowitz (talk) 10:52, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Frederick E. Morgan

5x expanded by Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:09, 19 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 22:08, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Not 5x expanded. Size before expansion began was 4877 and the current size is 16165, so another 8220 characters are required. (Also, if you do manage to sufficiently expand it, the current hook, at 230 characters, is too long.) MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 00:56, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Adelaide leak

Created by Sarastro1 (talk). Self nom at 20:43, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anything to do with Bradman would be very hooky outside North America, and the dispute over writing newspaper columns is an interesting angle with modern resonance. Le Deluge (talk) 12:59, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Toyota Celica LB Turbo

Created by Donnie Park (talk). Nominated by Donnie Park (talk) at 20:37, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Paul S. Martin, Paul Sidney Martin

Created by User:Davidlchandler and yours truly. - East of Borschov 19:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: Why is it surprising or eye-catching that the university of Arizona should employ anthropologists? To put that another way, are there perhaps some more interesting facts about these two individuals? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:36, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • OH it's because of their very similar names. But if I can miss that, so (perhaps) can a casual reader. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:38, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tamaulipas massacre

Created by Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 18:29, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Verified. I added "known" to the hook for the proper quote.--NortyNort (Holla) 10:38, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ambam

  • ... that in January 2010, the mayor of Ambam was arrested and accused of the embezzlement of 20 million CFA Francs?

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 16:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Prose originally less than 500 bytes. More than expanded x5. Dr. Blofeld 16:17, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

UAAP Season 73 men's basketball tournament

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Nominated by Howard the Duck (talk) at 16:05, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's 233 characters. How about the following, which is exactly 200? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:01, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'd prefer the coach being named. Why not ditch "double lane violation" and change it to "jump ball" since that was his purpose in instructing his player to cross the lane? –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 18:13, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. ALT2 is also 200 characters. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:47, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Verified. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:44, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:52, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vespa luctuosa

Created by IronGargoyle (talk). Self nom at 15:26, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Brijesh Mishra

Created by LogicDictates (talk) 13:49, 19 September 2010 (UTC). Nominated by LogicDictates (talk) 13:49, 19 September 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Alpiq

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 13:19, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • OK, so a Swiss power generating company has a stake in a Swiss power generating facility. But is this really interesting or surprising or unusual?
Maybe you should add ", the tallest gravity dam in the world" to the end of it? (Although there might be issues with exactly how that fact is sourced.)
Or try a hook along the lines that although most of Alpiq's power generation is from hydroelectric or geothermal sources, it's currently investing in a solar power station in Sicily? Still not exactly fascinating, but it adds a bit of variety at least. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:58, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pope John Paul II's visit to the United Kingdom

Created by TheRetroGuy (talk). Nominated by TheRetroGuy (talk) at 12:14, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The West Wing (season 7)

5x expanded by Rambo's Revenge (talk). Self nom at 11:48, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Samuel Rabin (artist)

Created by DavidCane (talk). Self nom at 03:13, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 18

Tensile testing

A tensile testing machine

Created by Wizard191 (talk). Self nom at 23:14, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Don't take me wrong - it is a very useful article and nomination, but the hook is impossible (no such thing as "the most fundamental material test", sounds as a sale phrase) and is supported by a spammish ref. There are plenty of books to cover this topic, would you be willing to update this hook and ref. 1, please? Materialscientist (talk) 00:00, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pearl Rivers

Photograph of Pearl Rivers

  • ... that the pioneering journalist Pearl Rivers took her pseudonym from the river that ran near her home?

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 14:25, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Email disclaimer

Created by Colonel Warden (talk). Self nom at 21:02, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kreutzer Air Coach

  • ... that there is only a single extant example of the K-5 Air Coach aircraft?

Created by RuthAS (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 18:31, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Portrait of Mary Adeline Williams

An oil painting of a middle-aged white woman with an austere expression on her face. She is dressed in an antiquated black dress, slightly reflective, with a white collar

Created/expanded by JNW (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 18:16, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]



  • First portrait is included as an image, but the second one would work as well, if preferred. GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 18:16, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Verified. Offline sources AGF. Whoever loads this into prep can decide on which painting depending on whether they feel "radiantly affectionate" or "worn and strained." I prefer the current out of the two, it is a little brighter.--NortyNort (Holla) 09:02, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Processing fluency theory of aesthetic pleasure, Processing fluency

Created by Fuzzy artist (talk), Miegoreng (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 17:55, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

August von Haxthausen

Created by Languagehat (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 17:04, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Zhuge Shuang

Created by Nlu (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 15:00, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The lead refers to him as a general but throughout the article, he is mostly referred to as a military governor, not a general.--NortyNort (Holla) 08:54, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SS Georgiana (1863)

Created by RebaLee74 (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 14:33, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew Jackson (clipper)

Created/expanded by Bigturtle (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 13:49, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chavonnes Battery

Created/expanded by Rodw (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 13:31, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Looks good but I can't find the coal bunker purpose in the reference and a few others I checked. Also, it was a prison as well if you want to replace it with that.--NortyNort (Holla) 08:31, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The coal bunker claim is supported by this blog post 21 June 2008 but that may not pass RS. I'd be happy with the hook without this additional bit of info. If appropriate it could be combined with the nomination for Somerset Hospital (Cape Town) (24 Sept above) as this was the hospital the battery was used as a quarantine ward for. — Rod talk 09:43, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yea I am not familiar with the blog but would say no. A lot of the wrecks in the bay appeared to be coal ships, so I wouldn't be surprised but then again, need to verify. If you would like to make an alternate double hook down here, please do. Especially with the backlog, it is encouraged.--NortyNort (Holla) 10:33, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1 (Combined) That Cape Town's Chavonnes Battery served as a prison and a quarantine and convalescent wing of the old Somerset Hospital? If this one is used (? with the photograph of the hospital) then the nomination on 24th sept should also be removed.— Rod talk 10:51, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2007–08 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

Created by Court Jester (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 02:08, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Feathered Helmet, The Death of Captain James Cook (Zoffany)

man in helmet made from feathers but looks ancient Greek in shape

  • Comment: ref in ledes

Created/expanded by Victuallers Victuallers (talk) 08:19, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Jonas Mouton

5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 02:44, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Elsham Priory

Created/expanded by Bob Castle (talk). Nominated by Bob Castle (talk) at 23:22, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've only checked the sentence relevant to the hook fact, but there the wording is far too similar to the wording of the source. I think the whole article needs to be checked for plagiarism. rʨanaɢ (talk) 13:09, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • And after removing a sentence that was word-for-word plagiarism for one source, and rewriting the other one that was subtler plagiarism, the article is below 1500 chars anyway. rʨanaɢ (talk) 13:12, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fyodor Petrovich Komissarzhevsky

Photograph of a man standing, wearing leather books, knee-length tunic and feathered hat

  • Comment: I wasn't sure what date to list this for. The article was created as a 28 word stub on 16 September by User:Neddyseagoon [3] which I expanded to 630 words (3473 characters) on 18 September. The hook is based on the 6th and 7th sentences of the second paragraph of the Biography section. The article uses a shortened footnote format for the inline citations. Consult the Sources section for full bibliographic information and links for the citations.

5x expanded by Voceditenore (talk). Self nom at 08:33, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • ALT 2 ... that the 19th century Russian tenor Fyodor Petrovich Komissarzhevsky (pictured) sang in Italy under the name of "Teodoro di Pietro"?

    (based on the 3rd sentence of the first paragraph of the Biography section.)

Joseph Bringas

5x expanded by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 17:31, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • 5x expansion, length and date verified. There are some minor issues with hook wording, though. First, "overthrown" sounds as if Bringas indeed held the title of emperor. I wouldn't be against using this verb in the article, where you have provided context and explained that he was de facto head of state of Byzantium, but we do not have this context in the hook. It can be interpreted as if he was overthrown from his position as parakoimomenos by a general wishing to be an emperor, regardless of whether a parakoimomenos can be overthrown. Also, and I'm not sure on that one, "resisted" alone somehow implies a successful resistance. Perhaps another verb should be used or it should be elaborated with something like "initially resisted" to tie it with the second part of the sentence. — Toдor Boжinov — 15:16, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Good points. The second one is easy, change "resisted" to "opposed". For the first one, I pondered it myself: "deposed" is, if anything, worse, and there has to be an implication of a violent change, i.e. overthrow. Only if we change the meaning completely can something be done, e.g. instead of "was overthrown" we could use "was defeated". Otherwise the only way would be to try and introduce the context into the hook, i.e. "that Joseph Bringas, the virtual regent of the Byzantine Empire, opposed the rise of general Nikephoros Phokas to the throne, but was overthrown after three days of street clashes in Constantinople?" Constantine ✍ 16:01, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"Opposed" is a good suggestion. Incorporating the context into the hook certainly does the job, but the hook becomes a little too long and tedious for my liking. I like "was defeated" better, but I wouldn't say no to the suggestion which includes the context. Here's my preferred wording:
If you're fine with that (or prefer the longer version, up to you), I can give you a  :) AGF is because p. 499 of Treadgold is not in the Google Books preview for me, and the three days of fighting thing is not in Kazhdan. — Toдor Boжinov — 16:51, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 is fine by me. Cheers, Constantine ✍ 16:53, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As promised! :) — Toдor Boжinov — 17:19, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rebecca Nolin

Created by 90.221.202.90 (talk). Nominated by Strange Passerby (talk) at 07:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • These facts all seem quite mundane&mash;don't most footballers switch teams from tiem to time? Not meaning to be harsh, but is there any more interesting fact, or can this one be made to sound more interesting? rʨanaɢ (talk) 13:05, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think ALT2 is interesting enough. I admit perhaps my original two weren't that great, but I was trying to play on "Chelsea (Ladies) captain" playing in the U.S. — it's not a logical jump in men's football. So I think ALT2 works this way. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 11:26, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wallace Turner

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Nominated by Aboutmovies (talk) at 06:57, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Sourcing and length for article and hook have been verified. The link in the article to the obit in the LA Times that supported the hook was not working but has already been corrected while verifying the article. Alansohn (talk) 18:24, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Electromyrmococcus

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 00:30, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The ref says that the fossils "represent the oldest definitive record of ant-homopteran symbiosis" this is more interesting IMO than it just being the first record of symbiosis between mealybugs and Acropyga - can an ALT hook be made with this instead, or do you consider this to be too speculative? (The current hook is verified) Smartse (talk) 15:32, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is that almost all entomologists have abandoned the term "Homoptera" so that creates the problem of if we keep Homoptera its an outdated and inaccurate hook, but if we change Homoptera to Sternorrhyncha are we stepping over into OR? --Kevmin § 15:41, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I'm not sure if that would be OR or not but as there is some doubt it's best just to stick with your hook. Smartse (talk) 16:27, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Someday Soon (Ian Tyson song)

Created by TenPoundHammer (talk). Nominated by TenPoundHammer (talk) at 22:24, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bud Ogden, Ralph Ogden

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 21:49, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- boths hooks are good. Dincher (talk) 21:54, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't suppose it'd be possible to expand Ralph Ogden enough to be viable for a multi-hook nomination? If not, no worries. GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 18:49, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How much more expansion does he need? If it's not too much I can give it a stab. Jrcla2 (talk) 21:41, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I added some information about his high school career and his time with a professional German team. Is the article now long enough to double-DYK? Jrcla2 (talk) 23:12, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Bolded the link to Ralph GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 13:12, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ralph Ogden also checks out. Double-hook nom approved. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 04:09, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Portuguese-Mamluk naval war

Created/expanded by Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Nominated by Per Honor et Gloria (talk) at 21:48, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John Durkin (footballer)

Created by ChrisTheDude (talk). Self nom at 21:03, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article length and history fine, offline ref accepted AGF. rʨanaɢ (talk) 12:55, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The non-parallel structure of the hook, though, is a bit awk (a sort of syllepsis). I would suggest a rewording such as

Amir Mir

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 17:24, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, history, ref verified. The hook could be trimmed (a little less about Musharraf would probably be fine, the reader gets the gist already). rʨanaɢ (talk) 12:53, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea - I've trimmed it. Shiva (Visnu) 14:53, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Piotrków Trybunalski Castle

Piotrków Trybunalski Castle

Created by BurgererSF (talk) 16:36, 18 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 16:36, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bell Savage Inn

Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 16:28, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article length, history, and source check out. But I found at least one passage that had wording taken directly from the source material without quotation marks [4] (and it's the only section I looked at closely). As a rule of thumb, once one passage is found to be suspect, the whole article needs to be checked. rʨanaɢ (talk) 16:35, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • We AGF in the beginning, but the point is if plagiarism is found somewhere in the article, the whole article is suspect; if you've already slipped in one part of the article, there's no guarantee that you didn't slip elsewhere too; you yourself seem to have now acknowledged that you did this on other passages as well. Trying to deflect scrutiny by wikilawyering doesn't help either. rʨanaɢ (talk) 17:01, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • It seems no one has checked this article for plagiarism yet. rʨanaɢ (talk) 12:49, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • I would suggest it's not on DYK reviewers to check for further plagiarism, but rather if Shadygrove2007 wants his article on the main page and wants the DYK, he will come clean about any other instances of plagiarisim within the article. I'm not going to be passing it until he does so. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 04:02, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Yeah, I was mostly trying to hint that it's probably time to remove this. I won't be removing it myself because I'm the one who {{DYKno}}'ed it, but it looks like Shadygrove has abandoned this article, so I don't see any point letting it sit around any longer. rʨanaɢ (talk) 05:03, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Society reporting

  • … that the first proper society page in the United States was the invention of James Gordon Bennett, Jr. for the New York Herald? Me again. Uncle G (talk) 13:43, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • This article seems to be an expansion of one created in July 2008, but it is not a 5x expansion. Yoninah (talk) 11:24, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • It's been expanded 5x now, but the use of "proper" sounds a little weasely to me. Why weren't the articles in the NYE considered proper? Smartse (talk) 15:15, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • Don't ask me. Mott et al. is the source for what Bennett did at the Enquirer. They chose not to label that work as a "society page", but as articles comprising "tales of high society". For what it's worth, Bennett didn't own the Enquirer, but he founded the Herald. He was Washington correspondent, and later, by 1829, associate editor of the Enquirer. But he founded the Herald, in a cellar apparently. Pretty much every source that I have, that discusses this, repeats the accepted knowledge that the actual "society page" proper came about with the Herald. Uncle G (talk) 23:26, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
          • I'll AGF then as you're the one who's read the sources. Smartse (talk) 20:19, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gonggar County, Shannan Prefecture, Gonggar Choide Monastery, Gonggar Dzong, Lhasa Gonggar Airport

Lhasa Gonggar Airport

Created by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 11:43, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks to both reviewers. Hopefully, I have attended to all tags, minor editing and units conversions. Deleted the word 'both' in the hook.-- N.V.V. Char Talk . 03:14, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Everything checks out. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 04:00, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Leonardo Mascheroni

Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Nominated by Stonemason89 (talk) at 05:22, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

the main proposal is dubious in not presenting the explicit US disclaimer that Venezuela had nothing to do with it. ALT1 is kinda boring. Hence ALT2. Rd232 talk 17:29, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • ALT2 seems to focus unduly on a negative aspect of a living person's life, and particularly something in which he was never formally charged; I'm not sure it's in good taste. rʨanaɢ (talk) 12:30, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article is also tagged orphan. Being subject to investigates now, I agree with the BLP issue. ALT1 is the best option but not entirely interesting.--NortyNort (Holla) 12:12, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Peligroso Amor

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 00:37, 18 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 00:37, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and date are ok, but the ref doesn't verify this claim; it only says it was her first number-one song on Billboard Hot Latin Tracks, not first in the US overall. Also, the wording of the hook is ambiguous and should be changed:
  • I raised a question about the referencing, though. rʨanaɢ (talk) 01:48, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Special occasion holding area

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

For October 1

Wait for me, Daddy

soldiers marching down the street with a boy chasing his father

new by Esemono (talk). Self nom at 08:30, 05 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

and Canadian picture is OK too. Victuallers (talk) 15:54, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • At the risk of stating the obvious, this really ought to be the lead hook with image. BencherliteTalk 23:04, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For 31 October, Hallowe'en

  • The 2010 Halloween collection has started early. My interpretation of whats happening is ... 1. Move your hook to the bottom of the page (ie here) 2. You may get some more macabre, funny etc suggestions for a hook and it should get DYKtick'ed. 3. Then after its been there about 24 hours or so it gets moved off to the dedicated page. 4. Then about three or four days before Oct 31 we sort out the 40 or so hooks into "8"s (so they are ready to load on the 36 hours or so that is Halloween internationally). 5. We do the awards and 6 .... and please help with all of this. It only works if we all do a bit Victuallers (talk) 08:22, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Beginning of the End

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 16:21, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ben Cooper, Inc.

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 01:07, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • "Halston" means nothing here ... you also have "High Priest of Halloween" ... I'd tic that? oops OK! Victuallers (talk) 07:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Halston means a lot in the fashion world. I've wikilinked it. (Don't forget to sign your post!) - Tim1965 (talk) 01:44, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Only in places where there's a JC Penney. Trust me, that subclause just doesn't work outside the US, and to be honest it's redundant, it could just be struck out entirely. Or as Victuallers says, the "high priest" version is a ready-made alternative that needs no knowledge of US culture, and thus is a better hook. WTGR Tim, you really need to think a bit more globally - 50% of en.wiki users are outside the US, and that proportion is growing. Le Deluge (talk) 08:54, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Devils River (Wisconsin)

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 13:47, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • ALT1.. that two U.S. Presidents nearly lost their lives in the Devils River?
Just an idea Victuallers (talk) 07:40, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT1 is better. Or how about
  • ALT2 ... that two American presidents nearly lost their souls to the Devils River? Le Deluge (talk) 08:56, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just actually read the article - Jefferson Davis was never a president of the United States, but he was an "American", so I've tweaked the language a little. Le Deluge (talk) 09:10, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For January 1, 2011, Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation

Expanded and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This nomination is a bit of a special case. I originally nominated Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on August 3 following a 5x expansion (see discussion above under #Articles created/expanded on August 3). Everyone accepted that it met the DYK criteria but the nomination was derailed by a political dispute over timing. I've put forward a compromise at User talk:Jimbo Wales#Compromise proposal, which involves passing this DYK now but scheduling its appearance on January 1, 2011, which is 60 years to the day since the seal was first used. This proposal has been generally welcomed so I'm putting it forward here for formal consideration. I'm aware that the timeframe is somewhat longer than would be usual for scheduled DYKs, but in the circumstances I think a some flexibility would be justified. I've put forward two possible hooks: the original one as proposed earlier, and a new alternative tying the DYK in more directly with the date. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification: Are we nominating this (with whichever hook) sans image as you initially suggested on Jimbo's talk page?
    --K10wnsta (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Appended: I see that you removed the image from inclusion in the original nomination, so I'll assume this post-dated nomination would not include the image either. However, this necessitates further clarification:
Are we excluding the image from this DYK solely because of the recent interaction with the FBI?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In effect yes, but in my view it's a necessary evil if we're to reach a satisfactory compromise on this issue. -- ChrisO (talk) 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • - Tentative Even if the motivation behind qualifying this article for DYK was questionable, I think you already achieved not just a satisfactory compromise, but a completely valid and justifiable use for it. In fact, it's use is so valid, refusing to use the image for no other reason than the recent hoobajoo with the FBI is blatantly (chilled) censorship...and I just can't get behind that. If we're going to censor it, we need to go whole hog or don't go at all.
    Could we put it up for 'On This Day' to avoid reasoning for exclusion of the image?
    --K10wnsta (talk) 01:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • No opinion on whether to feature on the future date; however, it would be better if this hook didn't remain on the suggestions page for the intervening months, as it is bound to attract further discussion and the page is unwieldy enough as it is. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Espresso's suggestion may be useful for more than just making this page leaner. A delay in nomination would lend to better perspective for those establishing consensus. In other words, removing it from discussion for a couple months would also put some time between recent events and the article (and hopefully image) being contemplated for a main page feature (unless such a delay would disqualify it from use in DYK section).
--K10wnsta (talk) 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This hook should not "disappear" for a few months. It is far better to leave it here to enable a wide input from editors on the issue. I think this is a good compromise that involves common sense, the proposal and special treatment of the timescale fitting nicely under WP:IAR. Mjroots (talk) 13:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support ALT2 for use on 1 January, 2011. EdChem (talk) 10:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Suggest scrapping this troublesome controversial DYK, the user that instigated the issue has also since retired, suggest retiring this idea as well. Off2riorob (talk) 13:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Would you please stop with your blatant pushing of the issue? Putting this off until January removes all controversy related to it. SilverserenC 13:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Your comment is just a simple personal attack, I have bigger fish to relentlessly pursue than this worthless disruptive DYK. Off2riorob (talk) 14:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nothing of what I said was or is a personal attack. I know you greatly dislike ChrisO and myself, but could you please not try and push an already outdated issue? SilverserenC 14:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I support ALT2 for the 1 January date. The anniversary makes this a very good choice for that day. -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I do not support 1 January 2011. The DYK section is for new articles. There are exceptions like April Fools and Halloween; I do not see the point of making every day of the year a possible exception. Geschichte (talk) 20:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Anniversary or not, a four-month wait at DYK is an overkill. The point of DYK is to present new or newly expanded articles, not to present "on this day". By then this article will be more than four months old. If this line of though is going to be followed, DYK is going to end up in a mess. The length of this entry is plain evidence for why keeping things around for almost five months is not a good idea. Arsenikk (talk) 13:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • per IAR. I would count this as a valid use of IAR. This could have gone up for today. The only reason it isn't going up is for political reasons. I disagree with Jimbo and others on that matter and think we should run it now, but there is no need to reject it entirely on that basis. NW (Talk) 03:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support' as this would have been promoted in the usual time window if not for the decision to shelve it until the political heat was off. To kill it now because a delay was agreed to would be an egregious abuse of trust. - Dravecky (talk) 09:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See also

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