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Kasia Niewiadoma In cycling, Katarzyna Niewiadoma (pictured) wins the Tour de France Femmes. Doctors strike and protests occur across India after the rape and murder of a female physician in Kolkata. Paetongtarn Shinawatra becomes Prime Minister of Thailand after Srettha Thavisin is dismissed by the Constitutional Court. The World Health Organization declares the mpox epidemic to be a global health emergency. Ongoing: Israel–Hamas war timeline Russian invasion of Ukraine timeline Sudanese civil war timeline Recent deaths: Mike Lynch Al Attles Bill Pascrell Daniela Larreal Charis Eng Maria Branyas view — page history — related changes — edit

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November 19

Portal:Current events/2020 November 19

November 19, 2020 (2020-11-19) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Tigray conflict Federal troops seize the town of Shire Inda Selassie from the Tigray People's Liberation Front (TPLF) as government forces advance on the Tigray Region's capital Mekelle. There are conflicting reports of the status of Axum, with both sides claiming to control the town. TPLF leader Debretsion Gebremichael says his forces will never surrender and calls on all Tigrayans, including children, to mobilize and take up arms. (BBC News) (Reuters) Thousands of more people flee into Sudan from Ethiopia's Tigray Region, according to international aid workers. (The Guardian) War in Afghanistan, Australian involvement in the War in Afghanistan The Australian Defence Force's special report into war crimes in Afghanistan is released to the public, revealing that 39 civilians and prisoners had been killed unlawfully by special forces since 2001. Chief of the Defence Force Angus Campbell issues an apology to the Afghan people and promises significant reform. (The Guardian) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in North America COVID-19 pandemic in the United States COVID-19 pandemic in California Los Angeles County reports 5,031 new cases, the highest single-day total since the pandemic began. (Los Angeles Times) Governor Gavin Newsom orders a curfew (limited stay-at-home order) for all 41 counties in the purple tier of the state's Blueprint for a Safer Economy reopening system; these counties include more than 90% of the state population. The order will be in effect from 10:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. PST beginning November 21. (KABC-TV) COVID-19 pandemic in Maryland Maryland reports a record 2,910 new cases in the last 24 hours, bringing the total number of cases since the beginning of the pandemic to 174,733. (WJZ-TV) COVID-19 pandemic in Ohio Franklin County, Ohio is elevated to the state's purple-level amid COVID-19 concerns, becoming the first county in the state to do so. (WKRC-TV) Miami Valley Gaming announces that they will change their operating hours due to the statewide curfew imposed by Governor Mike DeWine. (Dayton Daily News) COVID-19 pandemic in Pennsylvania Pennsylvania reports a record 7,126 new cases in the last 24 hours, surpassing 7,000 new cases for the first time since the pandemic began. (WCAU-TV) COVID-19 pandemic in Texas Texas reports a record 12,293 new cases in the last 24 hours. Meanwhile, there are 147,030 active COVID-19 cases across the state. (Patch.com) COVID-19 pandemic in Utah Utah Governor Gary Herbert issues a new public health order that will no longer require Utahns to limit social gatherings to only people in their households on Thanksgiving, even as the state reports a record 3,968 new cases in the last 24 hours. (The Salt Lake Tribune) A record 185,759 new cases are reported in the United States, according to Johns Hopkins University. (CNN) COVID-19 pandemic in Canada COVID-19 pandemic in Alberta Alberta reports a record 1,105 new cases in the last 24 hours, bringing the total cases in the province to 42,797 cases. (Edmonton Journal) COVID-19 pandemic in Manitoba Manitoba is expected to tighten their restrictions on stores and social gatherings in an effort to stop the spread of COVID-19. (Toronto Star) COVID-19 pandemic in Mexico Mexico exceeds 100,000 deaths, becoming the fourth country to do so after Brazil, the United States, and India. (The Washington Post) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Denmark Cluster 5 The health ministry stated that a new, mutated strain of the coronavirus stemming from mink farms in the country is "most likely" extinct, amid fears that the new strain could compromise COVID-19 vaccines. (France 24) COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom COVID-19 pandemic in Northern Ireland The Northern Ireland Executive agrees to implement a two-week tougher lockdown beginning November 27. All non-essential retail, close contact services, places of worship and cafés will close after being allowed to reopen tomorrow. (ITV) COVID-19 pandemic in Russia Russia surpasses two million total COVID-19 cases after a record 23,610 new cases are reported. It also reports a record 463 new fatalities in the last 24 hours. (The Moscow Times) Russia resumes the vaccination of new volunteers in an trial for its flagship Sputnik V vaccine after a short pause at the end of October. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in Greece, COVID-19 pandemic in Albania The Greek government announces a closure of its border crossing with Albania in Krystallopigi beginning tomorrow morning and will also test all people entering the country through its land borders as part of efforts to contain the spread of COVID-19. (Ekathimerini) COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland The Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine recommends the owners of three mink farms in Ireland to cull their mink to halt the potential spread of a mutated form of the coronavirus. (RTE) COVID-19 pandemic in Poland Poland reports a record of 637 new fatalities in the last 24 hours, bringing the nationwide death toll in the country to 12,088. (Poland In) COVID-19 pandemic in Ukraine Ukraine reports a record 257 new fatalities and 13,357 new cases in the past 24 hours, taking the nationwide death toll to 10,369 and the total number of cases to 583,510. (U.S. News & World Report) COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Japan The Tokyo Metropolitan Government reports a new single-day record of 534 new cases and raise its virus alert in the prefecture to the highest of four levels for the first time since September, indicating that "infections are spreading". (Bloomberg) Japan reports a record 2,388 new cases, according to official figures. It comes as the country is on "maximum alert" and many prefectures such as Osaka, Aichi, and Hokkaido report record numbers of new cases. (The Straits Times) (Nippon.com) COVID-19 pandemic in the Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte agrees to provide an advance payment to pharmaceutical companies developing a COVID-19 vaccine in order to secure millions of vaccines. (Rappler) COVID-19 pandemic in South Korea The number of new confirmed cases in South Korea reaches a three-month high of 343 cases, bringing the nationwide total to 29,654 cases, according to data from the Korea Disease Control and Prevention Agency. (Yonhap News Agency) COVID-19 pandemic in Oceania COVID-19 pandemic in Australia Victoria Premier Daniel Andrews announces a closure of the state's border with South Australia for 48 hours beginning at 11:59 p.m. AEDT tonight. The "hard border" between the two states will be replaced by a permit system beginning at midnight on November 21. (ABC Australia) COVID-19 pandemic in the Marshall Islands Just days after announcing that the country was free of COVID-19 again after two infected people recovered, the Marshall Islands reports three new cases from a repatriation flight of Marshallese citizens in Hawaii. (RNZ) COVID-19 vaccine AstraZeneca’s vaccine candidate shows promise in older adults. Late-stage trials are expected to be released by Christmas. (Los Angeles Times) International relations Israel–United States relations, Palestine–United States relations, Syria–United States relations Mike Pompeo visits settlements in the Israeli-occupied territories of West Bank and Golan Heights, making him the first United States Secretary of State to do so. (NBC News) Law and crime George Floyd protests, 2020–2021 United States racial unrest George Floyd protests in Chicago A lawsuit is filed against the Chicago Police Department, accusing them of brutally attacking and falsely arresting protesters during demonstrations against the killing of George Floyd. (ABC News) At least 19 people are killed in Uganda during protests triggered by the arrest of presidential candidate Bobi Wine. (The Guardian) Politics and elections 2020 United States presidential election President-elect Joe Biden wins Georgia, after the state completed its hand recount, making him the first Democrat to win the state since Bill Clinton in 1992. (CBS News) Science and technology Citing safety concerns, the National Science Foundation announces that the 57-year-old Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico will be decommissioned. Earlier this month, a second cable supporting the 900-ton instrument platform snapped. The platform is suspended 450 feet (137 meters) above the fixed radio dish, which is 1,000 feet (305 meters) in diameter. (NSF)

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Brereton report

Article: Military history of Australia during the War in Afghanistan#War crimes inquiry (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Brereton report shows Australian troops committing war crimes during the war in Afghanistan, including murdering at least 39 civilians, some as young as 14 years old. (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by CoronaOneLove (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: I think that's enough deaths and damage. Look at the local news - its devastating. --CoronaOneLove (talk) 16:42, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Hurricane Iota redux

Article: Hurricane Iota (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Hurricane Iota hits Central America, killing 43 people and leaving at least 41 missing. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Hurricane Iota kills over 43 people after hitting Nicaragua as a category 4 and Colombia as a category 5.
News source(s): https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/nov/19/australian-special-forces-involved-in-of-39-afghan-civilians-war-crimes-report-alleges , https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-21/soldiers-killed-man-who-could-not-fit-on-aircraft-says-us-marine/12782756 , https://www.news.com.au/national/sas-soldier-under-investigation-over-shooting-of-unarmed-man/news-story/0cf82b4dc7e87ebda8507487042a427f , https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/300157436/australia-to-prosecute-troops-for-war-crimes-in-afghanistan
Credits:

• Nominated by Destroyeraa (talk · give credit)
• Created by Robloxsupersuperhappyface (talk · give credit)
• Updated by ChessEric (talk · give credit), TornadoLGS (talk · give credit) and Jasper Deng (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: I think that's enough deaths and damage. Look at the local news - its devastating. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 14:49, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose unremarkable and still only third in the list for this season of just Atlantic hurricanes.... The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 14:53, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

I mean, Hurricane Harvey was the 3rd deadliest atlantic hurricane in 2017... Gex4pls (talk) 15:24, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Equal costliest on record: remarkable. This one? Not so. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 15:29, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

I'm not arguing against Harvey, but just because an atlantic hurricane season is remarkably deadly doesn't mean that the individual storms aren't. Put Iota in say, 2015, and this would probably easily get through. (plus, Many communities are still isolated by floodwaters and damaged infrastructure, so deaths are still being reported) Gex4pls (talk) 15:32, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

This is wholly unremarkable. I've said it before. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 15:36, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

With all the crap occurring in 2020, this news pales in comparison with all the other hurricane news in the past month.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 16:12, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support but mention it was category 5. TheRambling Man will oppose no matter what. --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 15:01, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

  That's a lie. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 15:22, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support as definitely devastating enough, unfortunately. This is all over the news and the article is in good shape. -- Tavix ^(talk) 15:08, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support In any other year a 40 death or greater natural disaster would probably get through ITN easy peasy. Gex4pls (talk) 15:13, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Widely covered in the news. ZettaComposer (talk) 15:40, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose: still not high enough. The "all over" news today is the Australian war crimes in Afghanistan. Nominate that for ITN, then I'll support.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 15:42, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
  • @CyclonicallyDeranged: Sure, you or I can nominate it. We just need an article link. Cheers.~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:46, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment update: 43 deaths now. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:49, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

  Not in the article. Please fix the article, with references, so the article matches the blurb. --Jayron32 16:02, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support - having seen some of the images of Iota's impact floating around on Social Media, I feel that this is ITN worthy. However, I would remove the part about the categories from the blurb since a category 5 cyclone means different things to different people.Jason Rees (talk) 16:15, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support because Hurricane Iota is the strongest hurricane of 2020, as well as the latest-forming category 5 hurricane ever observed. Furthermore, the number of deaths themselves appear to be notable and continue to grow. NorthernFalcon (talk) 16:29, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

RD: Margaret Guilfoyle

Article: Margaret Guilfoyle (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sydney Morning Herald, The Australian, Canberra Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Ivar the Boneful (talk · give credit)
• Updated by JackofOz (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Australia's first female finance minister. Died on the 11th but only made public today (refer Canberra Times article), not sure if this makes it "stale" or still okay to post. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 10:26, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support okay to post, article in good nick, good to go. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 10:51, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support comprehensive and fully ref'd JennyOz (talk) 12:52, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment. I see a few tags on the article. Please fix them before moving to homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 14:53, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support Has enough sources, could always use a few more, but this one is fine enough. Gex4pls (talk) 15:38, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

November 18

Portal:Current events/2020 November 18

November 18, 2020 (2020-11-18) (Wednesday) Business and economy Boeing 737 MAX groundings The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration clears Boeing's 737 MAX to fly again, provided that all planes receive modifications to their software and wiring and that all pilots receive additional training. (BBC News) Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on aviation Norwegian Air Shuttle files for bankruptcy protection in Ireland for two subsidiaries: Norwegian Air International and Arctic Aviation Assets as part of a restructuring of the business due to the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic. (RFI) Fitch Ratings downgrades Zambia's government debt to RD (restricted default) after the country failed to pay a Eurobond coupon on Friday. (Reuters) (AFP via Yahoo! Finance) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in North America COVID-19 pandemic in the United States COVID-19 pandemic in New York (state) COVID-19 pandemic in New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio stated that public schools across New York City will temporarily close after the 7-day average positivity rate reaches 3%. (ABC News) COVID-19 pandemic in Ohio Columbus Health Commissioner Dr. Mysheika Roberts and Franklin County, Ohio Health Commissioner Joe Mazzola issue stay-at-home advisories for residents of Columbus and Franklin County. People living in these areas are also advised to avoid travelling in and out of the state. (WANE-TV) COVID-19 pandemic in Pennsylvania Pennsylvania reports a new single-day record of 6,339 new cases in the last 24 hours, bringing the total number of cases in the state to 281,852. (WKBN-TV) COVID-19 pandemic in Wisconsin Wisconsin reports a record of 7,989 new cases in the last 24 hours, bringing the total number of cases in the state to 331,837. (WBAY-TV) COVID-19 pandemic in Minnesota Minnesota Governor Tim Walz imposes several new restrictions on businesses and indoor gatherings in response to a surge in new cases. It begins on November 20 and lasts for four weeks. (CBS News) The number of confirmed deaths in the United States reaches 250,000. (NBC News) The U.S. military reported a record high number of COVID-19 cases with 1,314 new cases on Tuesday, according to data from the Department of Defense. (CNN) COVID-19 pandemic in Canada COVID-19 pandemic in British Columbia British Columbia reports a record 762 new cases in the last 24 hours, bringing the province's total number of cases to 24,423. (Global News) COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Japan Tokyo reports a new single-day record of 493 new cases, surpassing the previous record set in August and bringing the cumulative number of cases in the prefecture to over 35,000. (The Mainichi Shimbun) Nationwide, 2,203 new cases are reported in Japan. It is the first time that the country has reported more than 2,000 cases since the pandemic began. (Kyodo News) COVID-19 pandemic in Indonesia The number of patients who recovered from COVID-19 in Indonesia exceeds 400,000. (detikHealth) COVID-19 pandemic in Iran Iran reports a record 13,421 new cases in the last 24 hours, bringing the nationwide cumulative total to 801,894 cases. (Al-Arabiya) COVID-19 pandemic in Jordan Jordan reports a record 7,933 new confirmed cases in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide cumulative total to 163,926 cases. (Roya News) COVID-19 pandemic in Malaysia Malaysia surpasses 50,000 total confirmed cases of COVID-19. (The Edge Markets MY) COVID-19 pandemic in South Korea The Korea Disease Control and Prevention Agency reports 313 new cases in South Korea in the past 24 hours, surpassing 300 for the first time. It is also the highest single-day figure since August 29, taking the nationwide total to 29,311 cases. (Yonhap News Agency) COVID-19 pandemic in the State of Palestine Palestine reports a record 1,268 new confirmed cases in the last 24 hours, half of them in Gaza, as officials in both the Palestinian Authority and Hamas resist calls to impose a second general lockdown. (The Times of Israel) COVID-19 pandemic in Taiwan Beginning December 1, Taiwan will require almost all visitors to have negative COVID-19 tests before arriving in the country due to an increase in imported cases. The government will also increase the number of places where people must wear masks. (The Straits Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Denmark Cluster 5 Danish Agriculture Minister Mogens Jensen (politician) resigns following criticism of illegal government order to cull 15-17 million minks after the discovery of a mutated version of the coronavirus at some of the country's mink farms. (Euronews) COVID-19 pandemic in Italy Italy reports 753 new fatalities in the last 24 hours, the highest single-day total since April 3, bringing the nationwide death toll to 47,217. (Corriere della Sera) COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland Ireland surpasses 2,000 total deaths from COVID-19. (The Irish Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Poland Poland reports a record of 603 new fatalities in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide death toll to 11,451. (RMF 24) COVID-19 pandemic in Russia Russia reports a record 456 new fatalities in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide death toll to 34,387. In addition, a record 25,179 recoveries are reported, outnumbering new cases for the first time since September 16. (Vedomosti) (Anadolu Agency) COVID-19 pandemic in Spain Attorney General Dolores Delgado tests positive for COVID-19. (El Peridico) COVID-19 pandemic in Ukraine Ukraine surpasses 10,000 total deaths from COVID-19 after a record 256 new fatalities are reported in the past 24 hours. (Kyiv Post) COVID-19 pandemic in Oceania COVID-19 pandemic in Australia, COVID-19 pandemic lockdowns South Australian Premier Steven Marshall announces a six-day "circuit breaker" lockdown across the state beginning at midnight due to a growing number of COVID-19 cases in Adelaide. Unlike previous lockdowns in Australia, outside exercise and takeaway food will be prohibited. The lockdown will be followed by eight days of "lesser restrictions". (BBC News) COVID-19 pandemic in Samoa Prime Minister Tuilaepa Aiono Sailele Malielegaoi confirms the first case of COVID-19 in the country from a sailor who returned from Auckland, New Zealand. Malielegaoi said the sailor tested positive Wednesday night but that a second confirmation test from this morning was negative. He added that they were concerned that the man could be contagious, though he is in isolation. (RNZ) COVID-19 pandemic in Africa COVID-19 pandemic in Zimbabwe Authorities close a boarding school in Matabeleland North Province after at least 100 students tested positive for COVID-19. (SowetanLIVE) The total number of confirmed cases in Africa surpasses two million. South Africa remains the continent's highest number of reported COVID-19 cases at over 750,000. (Reuters) COVID-19 vaccine Malaysian Science, Technology and Innovation Minister Khairy Jamaluddin signed an agreement with his Chinese counterpart Wang Zhigang to cooperate on the development of a safe and efficacious vaccine, as part of efforts to combat the COVID-19 pandemic. (The Star) Pfizer formally ends its vaccine trial with a 95% success rate and will submit a regulatory approval "within days". (NBC News) 2020 Équateur Province Ebola outbreak The Democratic Republic of the Congo declares the end of an almost six-month long Ebola outbreak in the Équateur Province. (AllAfrica.com) International relations Iran–United States relations, United States sanctions against Iran Iran says that it will return to the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, better known as the "Iran Deal", if President-elect Joe Biden lifts sanctions imposed by President Donald Trump. (CBS News) The United States imposes sanctions against the Mostazafan Foundation, a foundation controlled by Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, over alleged human rights abuses. (Al Jazeera) Politics and elections COVID-19 pandemic in Michigan Three Republican members of the Michigan House of Representatives have introduced a resolution calling for the impeachment of Governor Gretchen Whitmer over her new mitigation measures against the COVID-19 pandemic in the state. Other members of the Michigan Republicans, including high-ranking members of the Michigan House, criticize the resolution. (Fox News) Taiwan's broadcast regulator denies the renewal of the broadcast license of CTi News channel, citing alleged interference by its major shareholder Tsai Eng-meng. This is the first time ever that Taiwan shuts down a television news channel. The opposition party Kuomintang calls it an attack on press freedom. (CNA) Politics of Peru Violeta Bermúdez becomes the new Prime Minister of Peru. (Andina) Sports 2020 NBA draft In basketball, the Minnesota Timberwolves select Anthony Edwards with the first overall pick in the draft. (The Guardian) (BBC News)

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RD: Paul Sobol

Article: Paul Sobol (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): EJPress, Le Vif, La Libre Belgique
Credits:

• Nominated by Brigade Piron (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Holocaust survivor known as one of the leading figures in Holocaust education in Belgium. One of the few remaining survivors of Auschwitz concentration camp. —Brigade Piron (talk) 10:20, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

• Weak oppose at least two unreferenced claims. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 10:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
  • @The Rambling Man:, happy to address them if you tell me what they are. —Brigade Piron (talk) 10:57, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
    • Already tagged. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 10:59, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
      • @The Rambling Man: I've dealt with the single tag. —Brigade Piron (talk) 11:02, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
        • Support looks fine now. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 11:05, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support Well referenced, small article. KittenKlub (talk) 11:34, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

November 17

Portal:Current events/2020 November 17

November 17, 2020 (2020-11-17) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks War in Afghanistan Taliban insurgency November 2020 Afghanistan attacks The Taliban kill at least 12 police officers and injure 10 others in Jurm District, Badakhshan Province. (TOLOnews) Withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan The Pentagon announces a partial withdrawal of 2,000 more U.S. troops from Afghanistan by mid-January. The withdrawal will reduce the number of U.S. military personnel stationed in Afghanistan from 4,500 to 2,500. (Reuters) 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war The Grand National Assembly of Turkey approves President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan's request to deploy Turkish Army peacekeepers to monitor a ceasefire agreement between Armenia and Azerbaijan in Nagorno-Karabakh. (France 24) Armenia and Azerbaijan exchange the bodies of at least 200 people killed in clashes in Nagorno-Karabakh. The exchange was overseen by Russian peacekeepers, according to the Red Cross. (Al Jazeera) Tigray conflict Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed vows a "final and crucial" offensive after a three-day deadline to the leaders of the Tigray Region to surrender has expired. Abiy also confirms that airstrikes are being carried out but defines them as "precision-led and surgical", denying claims of civilian casualties. (AP) Allied Democratic Forces insurgency The bodies of 29 people are found in the Virunga National Park, Democratic Republic of the Congo after they were "executed en masse". The interior ministry of North Kivu province has blamed the Allied Democratic Forces (ADF) and added that six other civilians were killed in a nearby village on Tuesday. (Al Jazeera) Business and economy Economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Japan Japanese economy grew at annualized rate of 21.4% in July-September quarter after two consecutive quarters of contraction due to the pandemic, driven by rise of private spending and exports. (AP) Prime Minister Boris Johnson announces a ban on the sale of new petrol and diesel engine cars by 2030, as part of a government plan to reach a net zero emissions climate target in the United Kingdom by 2050. The sale of hybrid vehicles will also be banned by 2035. (Reuters) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in North America COVID-19 pandemic in the United States COVID-19 pandemic in Idaho Idaho reports 1,781 new cases in the past 24 hours, a new single day record. (KIFI-TV) COVID-19 pandemic in Washington, D.C. U.S. Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa tests positive for COVID-19. (CNN) COVID-19 pandemic in New Mexico New Mexico reports a record 2,112 new cases, bringing the statewide total to 67,559 cases. (Santa Fe Reporter) COVID-19 pandemic in Pennsylvania Health Secretary Rachel Levine announces that out-of-state travelers will be required to either quarantine or present a negative COVID-19 test to enter the state. (CBS News) COVID-19 pandemic in Ohio Ohio Governor Mike DeWine orders a night time curfew from 10:00 p.m. until 5:00 a.m. EST in an attempt to slow the spread of COVID-19. The curfew will begin on November 19 and will last for three weeks. (WDIV-TV) COVID-19 pandemic in Wisconsin Wisconsin reports a record 92 new fatalities in the last 24 hours, bringing the death toll to 2,741. In addition, a record 318 hospitalizations are also reported. (WBAY-TV) COVID-19 pandemic in Maine Maine reports 246 new cases of COVID-19, a new single-day record. (WGME-TV) Pfizer announces that they have launched a pilot delivery program for their potential vaccine in Rhode Island, Texas, New Mexico, and Tennessee. (The Hill) COVID-19 pandemic in Canada COVID-19 pandemic in British Columbia British Columbia reports a record 717 new cases and 11 deaths in the last 24 hours, bringing the provincial death toll to 310 and the total number of cases to 23,661. 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(Posted) RD: Sheldon Solow

Article: Sheldon Solow (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Bloomburg
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American billionaire real estate developer. I've expanded the article a bit and it looks in good shape - Dumelow (talk) 07:09, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support sufficient for RD. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 10:24, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support - After review, ready for RD.BabbaQ (talk) 10:59, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support Looks good for RD JW 1961 Talk 17:59, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 22:24, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Anjum Singh

Article: Anjum Singh (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): FirstPost Indian Express
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian artist. Expanded the article. Well referenced. Has shaped up to be a clean C-class biography. Meets expectations for homepage / RD. RIP. For those wanting to see some of the paintings here and here. Ktin (talk) 05:39, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support Well sourced, small article. KittenKlub (talk) 09:41, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose no way a fair use image can be used, she's literally only been dead days. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 10:25, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  The Rambling Man, I went by what was done at Ben Cross back when the article was worked on here. But, that said, removing the image should be easy. Let me know. Thanks. Ktin (talk) 11:04, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  No, it shouldn't be there. It does not demonstrate that adequate and suitable effort has been put into finding a free alternative. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 11:12, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  The Rambling Man, sounds good. Image has been removed. Ktin (talk) 11:22, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

• Comment Support - agree with TRM. Fair use only applies if there's no prospect of finding a free alternative. But for someone who only died a few days ago, it could easily be possible to track down free alternatives with a bit of work.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:16, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  Amakuru, thanks. Image has been removed. Couldn't find free alternatives, hence, went by the fair use discussion here. Ktin (talk) 11:21, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  @Ktin: OK thanks. To be honest, it might be better to try to get a definitive answer from experts on the project pages as to what's acceptable from this point of view, balancing the fact that she's still subject to WP:BLP, versus ease of obtaining images. I do find the whole fair-use guideline a bit confusing generally, because it's very unclear what it means to be able to source an alternative image. I guess the assumption is that you can always go to one of her events and take a snap of her, and I guess that's not possible now she's passed away. But there are other ways to get images. One approach would be to find every single image of her online, and approach each of the photographers to see if they'd agree to release the rights under Creative Commons licence. That might well yield fruit, but obviously could apply to any subject, dead or alive. Anyway, now that the image is no longer there, happy to support. Quality seems to be good enough. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk)

  Yes, exactly that, I've done that before successfully. Most people are prominent enough for there to be free photos available, you just have to do the work to find it before declaring fair use is the only alternative. As for Cross, I don't see any discussion saying the fair use image was just fine. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 12:37, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  @The Rambling Man:, thanks, I do see your point. Yes, I did a good search prior to the fair use route. If someone has some cycles to help search, that would be much appreciated.

  Re: Cross, here's the link to the discussion. Might have to click expand on the collapsed green box to see the comments. With that said, I have removed the image as well, in parallel. Ktin (talk) 12:48, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

• Without a fair-use picture, support. As far as I know, images are not required for article to be on ITN...--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 12:22, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support Looks good now for RD JW 1961 Talk 14:07, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support FYI, The Rambling Man, images are not mandatory nor necessary for something to pass ITN. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 14:28, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  Um, I know that, as after 14 years and a quarter of a million edits, I have picked up a few things. Cheers for your advice. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 14:30, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 22:20, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

November 16

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Peru interim president

Article: Francisco Sagasti (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Following the resignation of Manuel Merino, the Congress of Peru elects Francisco Sagasti as an interim president of the country. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Following the resignation of Manuel Merino, Francisco Sagasti is elected as interim president of Peru.
News source(s): The Guardian, Al Jazeera etc
Credits:

• Nominated by Brandmeister (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Peru blockbuster, part 3. Needs some work, then to be bumped per usual practice. Brandmeister^talk 20:58, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose horrible target article, and shouldn't it just be "as interim" rather than "as an interim"? He's the only one, right? The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 21:29, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Most likely, my bad. Brandmeister^talk 22:25, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
• Question Is he interim president even if he took office? ArionEstar (talk) 01:19, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Yes, per Al Jazeera he will be interim until national elections are called for April (barring his own resignation or similar extraordinary event). Brandmeister^talk 08:56, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Insufficient article quality to be a bolded blurb link. Otherwise qualifies per WP:ITNR's "Changes to the head of government"; however, we should reconsider if this office continues to be a revolving door.—Bagumba (talk) 01:52, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose – Confusing article. Lead says he's "the current President of Peru since 17 November 2020," not the 'interim president' (and the sentence is poorly constructed). Article also says he "he is slated to become the President of Peru by the line of succession." Unclear and poorly written. – Sca (talk) 13:34, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment. Francisco Sagasti will need, at very least, significant further sourcing and a trimming of the authography section. —Brigade Piron (talk) 14:56, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Shawkat Ali (politician)

Article: Shawkat Ali (politician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Bangladeshi politician. Could use a little expansion, but it'll probably be tomorrow before I can get around to it - Dumelow (talk) 19:18, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support All looks well to me This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 04:07, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment Source 1 might be considered an autobiography (and thus a primary source), because Ali was in charge of the organization that published it. It is also quite short given the breadth of material it supports in the article. Otherwise a good BLP.130.233.213.199 (talk) 12:24, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support Sufficient for RD JW 1961 Talk 21:44, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support brief but hey, probably as good as it's going to get for the moment. G2G. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 22:05, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 22:31, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Campbell Forsyth

Article: Campbell Forsyth (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): St Mirren FC
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: St Mirren, Kilmarock, Southampton and Scotland goal keeper. Death announced 16 November. I've added missing refs and tidied the article up a bit - Dumelow (talk) 19:15, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support Neat little article, I can't check the citebook references but everything else seems fine for RD JW 1961 Talk 22:54, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 08:31, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support all referenced. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 14:39, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment been good to go for 12 hours now. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 21:30, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 22:34, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

(Closed) Hurricane Iota

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Hurricane Iota (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Hurricane Iota hits Central America, killing 21 people and leaving at least 44 missing. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Hurricane Iota strengths into a Category 5 hurricane, the first since Lorenzo of last year, as it is approaching Honduras and Nicaragua.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The first (and latest) Category 5 hurricane of the 2020 Atlantic hurricane season is set to slam Central America after killing three, injuring 20, and leaving eight missing in Colombia.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Hurricane Iota makes landfall in Nicaragua as a strong Category 4 storm, the second major hurricane to do so in two weeks, following Hurricane Eta on 3 November.
Credits:

• Nominated by Destroyeraa (talk · give credit)
• Created by Robloxsupersuperhappyface (talk · give credit)
• Updated by ChessEric (talk · give credit), TornadoLGS (talk · give credit) and Jasper Deng (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Cat 5. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 14:57, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

• oppose no matter how much damage or how many deaths this storm causes as tropical cyclones and weather events are all mundane/routine events and shouldn't have any coverage in ITN ever. Noah^Talk 18:18, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  This is a bit full tilt. Nobody is saying what you've just said. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 18:20, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  I didn't suggest that either.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 18:27, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  Clearly the opinion is we have way too many TCs being nommed and none of the recent ones are notable so we shouldn't nominate any more for some time. Noah^Talk 18:25, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  Nominating more cyclones is plausible, provided it is a catastrophic one (more so than Iota).--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 18:29, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  That means we should only nominate one or two a year or sometimes only one every few years. Nothing since Cyclone Idai would be notable enough based on your criteria. We might as well not even bother nominating those ones either. So storms like Iota and Eta have absolutely zero notability for ITN, yes? Noah^Talk 18:33, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  Amphan, Laura, Eta, Harold, Goni, in my opinion would suffice ITN for 2020.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 18:38, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  No, it's not a "time limit" or "allowance" thing, it's a "can you find something that's more than just the mundane: "hurricane X hits country Y and kills Z" which happens literally dozens of times per year. And that's just the Atlantic hurricane season.... The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 19:12, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

• Wait for landfall, following past history of posting tropical cyclones here. ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 15:16, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Still wait, communications to many rural areas have been cut and the true scope of the disaster is still unclear. The available reports aren't pretty though and the death toll could easily spike once aid workers reach presently isolated areas. FWIW communications with Providencia, one of the earliest areas to be affected, are still mostly down. ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 14:31, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
• Wait Existing practice is to wait until effects are felt by people on land, such as property destruction and deaths. This is likely to cause huge amounts of both, but we generally wait until after it has done so; so that our blurb can reflect such impacts. --Jayron32 15:20, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• support first cat 5 in over a year. Cat 5's are really rare so we should add it. --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 18:39, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

  We plan on it. We're just waiting for landfall. --Jayron32 18:51, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

• Wait I was actually just about to nominate it, but looks like I was beaten to the punch. (cough, dang you @Destroyeraa:. LOL!) I'm in support of waiting despite what I said though.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 20:06, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
  • @ChessEric: LOL! I have a knack at beating others on ITN for nominating TC articles! :P ~ Destroyeraa🌀 20:08, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Wait For full impact to appear, also the first blurb is better than the alts. Gotitbro (talk) 22:22, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Wait until it makes landfall, and perhaps mention the coincidence of two major hurricane striking the same part of Central America in two weeks. TornadoLGS (talk) 22:32, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose thankfully highly limited loss of life. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 10:54, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

• @The Rambling Man: full impact reports will roll in in a few hours-days. We won't know anything yet. It made landfall, like 12 hours ago. --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 16:20, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

• Yeah nowhere near as strong. Oppose stands. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 16:21, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: not sure what you mean by "nowhere near as strong". You do realize that hurricanes weaken after making landfall and when they move over land, right? It peaked as a Cat 5 with 160mph (260kph) winds; yes, it did weaken slightly (5mph/10kph difference) to a Cat 4 with 155mph (250kph) winds and made landfall at that strength. It is now much weaker because it has been over land for several hours. 192.197.178.2 (talk) 17:56, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

How many deaths? The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 19:21, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: you do realize that it takes time to determine the death toll after a natural disaster like a hurricane, right? Hence, all of the "wait" !votes. Your oppose !vote was hastily made before the hurricane even made landfall and then you sustained your oppose !vote while the disaster was still occurring. Any reasonable observer would wait (as many have here) until the hurricane is over and they count the dead before making any deterministic statements like you have about the death toll. 192.197.178.2 (talk) 21:40, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

What utter claptrap. If you're accusing me of a premature "oppose" then why aren't you accusing the OP of a premature nomination? Honestly, utterly ridiculous. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, oppose (ARGH, you CAN'T DO THAT), wait, wait.... Get a grip. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 21:44, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: The OP did make a premature nomination. It doesn't change the fact that you made a premature oppose !vote though. Do you have any better arguments to make other than "he did it too!" 192.197.178.2 (talk) 21:53, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Yes, my original argument stands. Currently not newsworthy, so I oppose this nomination. What's your problem hounding me? Why not just log-in? The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 21:55, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

I mean, it's so impactful that no news items on Google appear to have been updated for 10 hours. I mean, WOW. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 22:14, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

• SupportWait Impacts are not fully realized yet At least 8 deaths, and count is rising fast. Gex4pls (talk) 13:29, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment landfall happened. Elijahandskip (talk) 16:24, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
• Changing to Support with the impact of Eta only two weeks earlier. I don't think the currently reported low death toll is of too much concern, since it will probably be some time before casualties are known. I added another possible blurb. Feel free to tweak it. TornadoLGS (talk) 18:50, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
• Wait Since it now has made landfall, we should wait until we have more information. As of yet, the news has been slow to come in on impact of Iota. However, there could be significant flooding which reports may be delayed depending on the remoteness of the areas affected. Jurisdicta (talk) 22:23, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

  So maybe close this until there's a newsworthy item? This is, frankly, stupid to have a load of people voting "wait", we could have done that with Brexit. Don't use ITNC as a weather-related scratchpad. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 22:25, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

I agree with you, @The Rambling Man: , that ITN/C has become a bit too tropical cyclone centric (I've contributed to this a bit myself), but that doesn't mean we can't post tropical cyclones. In particular, Iota is shaping up to be a bad one. Gex4pls (talk) 02:43, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

• @Gex4pls, The Rambling Man, Hurricane Noah, and KN2731: Landfall happened, now up to 7 deaths and more than 20 missing. TRM, please reconsider. A catastrophic disaster is unfolding. I know you dislike hurricane nominations, as you opposed a 1-billion dollar 15-death nasty hurricane. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 02:20, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose You'll have a hard time convincing me in a post-COVID world that 7 deaths is a "catastrophic disaster unfolding". WaltCip-(talk) 03:31, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
• Obvious Support re-opened now the death toll stands at 14. We posted Goni killed 11 and Molave killed 12 so it seems the WP:MINIMUMDEATHS have been satisfied. Also 2020 is a record season for Atlantic hurricanes. Updated blurb with new numbers. --LaserLegs (talk) 11:15, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

• Actually, WP:MINIMUMDEATHS pegs the minimum at 17 for hurricanes (in Bangladesh, admittedly).--WaltCip-(talk) 13:25, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support - it seems like the death toll has sadly reached the critical point at which it's more than just a routine event.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:17, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment – Hurricane news is regionally parochial. – Sca (talk) 13:38, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  It really is, and don't people love all those records "lowest pressure in an Atlantic Hurricane on a Tuesday in November (morning only)" etc etc... The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 13:46, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  @WaltCip and The Rambling Man: Unless you're going the Isaias way, the death toll is now up to 14, with 15 missing.~ Destroyeraa🌀 14:05, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  So let's get it straight, this is the fifth-deadliest Atlantic hurricane this year?? And like the 15th deadliest in the last four years?? The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 14:09, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  @The Rambling Man: The good thing is that Nicaragua and the vicinity has learned greatly from past failures with Hurricane Eta. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 14:26, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  Well of course, these events are so routine that lessons have to have been learnt. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 14:27, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  @The Rambling Man: So we shouldn't post any or almost all cyclone impacts? Noah^Talk 14:31, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  We should do what I said below. Post those events which are not routine. This is patently routine, it's fifth in the list of deaths from Atlantic hurricanes this year alone! The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 14:32, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  Ah, let's say a hurricane hits the United States in late November. 40 people die, and The Rambling Man says it's routine. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 14:34, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  You can say that, but don't ever put words in my mouth pal. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 14:35, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  Routining so much it has happened 4 times in less than a month (Molave, Goni, Vamco, Eta, what else?)--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 14:37, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

@CyclonicallyDeranged: The thing is that the listed above all caused many deaths. The thing about 50 deaths is a bit much, I'm fine with 30. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 14:43, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

No no no, it's got to be contextual. If we had 24 hurricanes all of which killed 30+ people in a year, we wouldn't post them all. We should be looking for the non-routine events, that could be wind speeds, or $ damage or # deaths, but this is fifth in the list for this year, 15th for the past four years, it's utterly mundane. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 14:45, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

More things in the world kill more people than these storms, like COVID. Report them, not cyclones. 30 is way too small. I could increase my threshold to 100 deaths, 50 is too small.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 14:47, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

ITN only has four spots to put in any news in at a time. If there are 4 or more cyclones within a week that cause deaths, ITN has a huge problem.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 14:48, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

• Comment Typhoon news is regionally parochial [1] [2] [3] --LaserLegs (talk) 14:12, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  I think this is getting like the Space-X posting. These things happen en mass in certain areas of the world many many times per year. Literally nothing is remarkable about almost any of them. We should really focus on those events which are truly newsworthy from an encyclopedic perspective, not just utterly mundane and routine occurrences, of which this is just a perfect example. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 14:23, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  Same nations (Philippines and Vietnam) getting the headlines three times in less than a fortnight. Fishy much?--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 14:44, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

• Comment: I will support when death toll reaches 50. Right now I am still inclined to oppose. Noting this will be two news reports reporting the same group of nations in as many weeks (Eta). Post-comment: Actually, this part of world is impoverished and vulnerable: I will only support after 100 deaths.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 14:21, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment: Communications are down right now which is making this storm's death toll remain lower than what it will end up at. 30 more missing after a landslide. Noah^Talk 14:44, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  So nominate it when the impact is well known, not when it's simply "just another Atlantic hurricane". The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 14:49, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

• Comment I think we really need some kind of guidelines for what tropical cyclones are posted to ITN, as these discussions are getting out of hand. Gex4pls (talk) 15:04, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment – In local print journalism of yore, the typical weather story went, "A major storm roared through (city or area name) yesterday, felling trees, downing power lines, flooding streets and disrupting traffic." If you don't live there, it's of near-zero interest unless it affects someone you know. – Sca (talk) 15:14, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

PS: For some reason, big snowstorms were always more interesting. – Sca (talk) 15:17, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Very much the same things happen in today's cyclones as it was eons ago, although with more people and higher technology comes an increase in damage bills and perhaps decrease death tolls due to improved forecasting.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 15:47, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man, CyclonicallyDeranged, and WaltCip: Death toll is now up to 21, with 44 missing. Though TRM and CD will probably not change their opinions, I'm just letting them know. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:59, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Correct, that is in no way remarkable, in no sense at all does it set it aside from the three other deadlier Atlantic hurricanes so far this season.... The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 16:01, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: FYI, It's now the third most deadliest, after Laura and Eta. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 16:05, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Let me know when it becomes notable. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 16:26, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Wow, much deadlier than two of the pacific Typhoons we posted last month, one with four supports in less than a day. If anyone is unclear: Central America is not the United States of America so you don't need to "fight systemic bias" here --LaserLegs (talk) 16:09, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

I had honestly thought Nicaragua was located in Kansas, so thank you for clearing up the confusion.--WaltCip-(talk) 16:18, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

• Comment - We do have some people passionate about natural disasters here, that much is obvious. The passion is appreciated as pertains to updating the articles and making sure they are of quality suitable for the main page. However, ITN looks at overall newsworthiness and encyclopedic value, not just at how much damage a storm does in the moment. We're looking at the big picture.--WaltCip-(talk) 16:18, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
  • By that, all those sports records will not get posted. I don't mind if they don't - who cares if a guy beats the record for a 5000 m race by one second? ~ Destroyeraa🌀 16:24, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
  • (edit conflict)It is due to too many ITNs about hurricanes and typhoons in the past two to three weeks plus this hurricane affecting the same area as another hurricane only two weeks ago that got featured on ITN, that causes me not willing to see another ITN about another hurricane. Current death toll is still not high enough to change my stance.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 16:27, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
  • (edit conflict)As many people who follow track-and-field would explain, the significance is in measuring the maximum of human physical achievement throughout history. Indeed, beating the existing record by a second would be considered of earth-shattering significance in that field.--WaltCip-(talk) 16:28, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
    • How many sports records have been on ITN in the past two to three weeks? I'll bet it is much less than the number of cyclone ITNs.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 16:30, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
      • None, but there was a bunch before September or October. Anyway, we're getting off-topic. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 16:37, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
        • This conversation doesn't appear to be going anywhere, I say we just wait for the death toll to plateau or pass 50, then discuss further. Gex4pls (talk) 16:43, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

I closed this about 10 minutes ago due to arguing here but it was reopened. Noah^Talk 16:44, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

I support closing the nomination. Reopen only when the death toll skyrockets.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 16:52, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Why? We've shown two recently posted typhoons which were speedy posted with lower death tolls. What's the reason to not post this one? Were those mistakes? --LaserLegs (talk) 17:18, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Yes they were unless something extraordinary happened in each case, they were routine weather patterns and barely notable, let alone suitable for the main page of a global encyclopedia. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 17:20, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Fair enough then. We should do better next season. --LaserLegs (talk) 17:33, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Not sure which typhoons you are referring to. I remembered only discussing one typhoon. The others I didn't.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 17:22, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Goni and Molave --LaserLegs (talk) 17:33, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Goni, I supported as notable (one of the strongest). Molave, I did not discuss when the nomination was open. If Molave occurred today I would oppose.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 17:36, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Iota is the only cat 5 of a record atlantic season --LaserLegs (talk) 17:43, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

OMG, groannnnnnn. "Iota is the only cat 5 of a record atlantic season" is fansite material.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 17:49, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

ITN's blurb for Molave was later updated to state it caused 50 deaths at the time it rolled off. It ultimately caused 71 deaths. Howard the Duck (talk) 17:52, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Ah yes in this case it would have been better to nominate Molave at the moment it was known the typhoon killed 50...or 71.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 17:55, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

That's true... but sometimes once everyone accounts the casualties (or some of it until it reaches the WP:ITNMINIMUMDEATHS of 50), it's no longer In the News. Howard the Duck (talk) 17:59, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Counting deaths can take days, even weeks after the event actually occurred so no surprise there. Then there is the government making their own funny decisions on what info to publicly release, and there are corrupted governments that do even worse. By the way, Molave and Goni were on ITN at the same time at one point, and I believe it would be preferable to have two typhoons combined on one ITN headline.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 18:04, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

On your first point, again that's true. If we'd wait to hit for the WP:ITNMINIMUMDEATHS of 50, some blurbs would not have made it because people who would've argued "wait until we reach the WP:ITNMINIMUMDEATHS of 50" would then argue that it is stale once it reached the WP:ITNMINIMUMDEATHS of 50... or they'd probably hike the WP:ITNMINIMUMDEATHS to 100. On your second point, we don't do that, just as the same way we don't combine two routine general elections in two separate countries. Howard the Duck (talk) 18:08, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Will there be a quiz on this 26,000-word topic? – Sca (talk) 18:15, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Yep it can take time before the true terror of a typhoon is known. On 2nd point, I think ITN should do that. News programs have done that before by reporting the impact of simultaneous cyclones in separate countries, even continents.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 18:20, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Suggest you read Typhoon and report back to us. – Sca (talk) 18:26, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Goni groaaaaaaaaaaaaan it's "one of the stronnnnnnngessssttttttttttt" burp. --LaserLegs (talk) 18:17, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Sounds like my drinking days.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 18:22, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Lets just close this stagnating conversation until there's a significant development. Gex4pls (talk) 18:43, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Actually it has been quite funny and hilarious reading and chatting during this discussion. Interesting book on a typhoon Sca...--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 19:11, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

@CyclonicallyDeranged: per many of you guys wanting to close this drunken discussion, I'm closing and will re-nominate once it hits a number of deaths you guys would want to see. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 19:19, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

(Posted) RD: Walid Muallem

Article: Walid Muallem (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Syrian foreign minister and deputy PM. Article in reasonable shape - Dumelow (talk) 06:38, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support good enough. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 10:47, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support Article is fine and interesting career. Gotitbro (talk) 15:03, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment There is one dead link/404 error (ref 7 as of now) that I can't get IABOT to fix, would be better if that could be replaced JW 1961 Talk 17:53, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Joseywales1961, I found an archived version and fixed it- Dumelow (talk) 18:12, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support article looks good for RD JW 1961 Talk 18:15, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

•  Posted—Bagumba (talk) 08:30, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

  Bagumba, thanks. Would have been good to go from the bottom of the stack to give other articles a chance. Ktin (talk) 12:35, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

November 15

Portal:Current events/2020 November 15

November 15, 2020 (2020-11-15) (Sunday) Arts and culture Pope Francis issues an appeal to authorities in Ivory Coast to establish a climate of mutual trust and dialogue in the West African nation, where controversial elections have led to violence and a mass exodus from the country. (Vatican News) Business and economy Fifteen Asia-Pacific nations sign the world's largest free-trade agreement in Vietnam. It replaces the Trans-Pacific Partnership, from which the administration of Donald Trump withdrew the United States in early 2017. (DW) (Financial Times) Disasters and accidents 2020 Atlantic hurricane season Iota becomes Hurricane Iota and is forecast to hit Central America. Nicaragua issues hurricane warnings near the border with Honduras while Honduras also issues warnings, whereas Colombia issues a warning to the islands of San Andrés and Providencia. (CNN) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in North America COVID-19 pandemic in the United States COVID-19 pandemic in Kentucky Kentucky reports 3,303 new cases, a new single-day record. (WDRB-TV) COVID-19 pandemic in Michigan After several days of record highs for new cases, Governor Gretchen Whitmer issues an order closing several types of business and services, including high schools and universities, for three weeks, effective November 18. (WJBK-TV) COVID-19 pandemic in New Jersey New Jersey reports 4,540 new cases over the past 24 hours, a new single-day record. (North Jersey) COVID-19 pandemic in Washington (state) Governor Jay Inslee announces that bars, restaurants, and gyms in the state will no longer be able to operate indoor services. In addition, indoor social gatherings are prohibited. The new restrictions will take effect on November 17 at 12:01 a.m. PST and remain in effect for four weeks. (KOMO-TV) The U.S. surpasses 11 million cases of COVID-19, just six days after surpassing ten million cases. (NBC News) (NPR) COVID-19 pandemic in Canada COVID-19 pandemic in Manitoba Manitoba reports a record 494 new confirmed cases, bringing the total number of cases in the province to 10,947. (CBC) Canada surpasses 300,000 cases of COVID-19. (CTV News) COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Bangladesh Home Minister Asaduzzaman Khan, who tested positive for COVID-19 yesterday, tests negative within a day. Despite this, he and senior secretary Mostafa Kamal Uddin remain in isolation. (Anadolu Agency) COVID-19 pandemic in Iran Iran reports 12,543 new infections of COVID-19, a new record, as well as 459 fatalities, bringing the death toll of the worst-hit country in the Middle East to 41,493. (Al Arabiya) COVID-19 pandemic in mainland China The municipal health commission in Jinan finds coronavirus on imported beef and tripe from Brazil, New Zealand, and Bolivia, as well as on packaging for these products, as China ramps up testing on imports of frozen foods. (Business Standard) COVID-19 pandemic in Pakistan Pakistan reports 2,443 new confirmed cases, the highest single-day total in four months, bringing the total number of cases to 356,904. (The Nation) COVID-19 pandemic in South Korea The Korea Disease Control and Prevention Agency reports 208 new confirmed cases, the highest single-day total since early September and the eighth consecutive day of triple-digit increases, bringing the total number of cases to 28,546. (CNA) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Italy, COVID-19 pandemic lockdown in Italy A lockdown is imposed in the Italian regions of Campania and Tuscany, bringing the number of regions in lockdown in the country to six. Nine more regions are under strict restrictions. (Il Messaggero) COVID-19 pandemic in Ukraine Health Minister Maksym Stepanov tests positive for COVID-19. (Kyiv Post) COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom Prime Minister Boris Johnson self-isolates after meeting with Ashfield MP Lee Anderson, who later tested positive for COVID-19. (BBC News) COVID-19 pandemic in Australia South Australia reports four new cases through community transmissions linked to a supermarket and a hospital in the northern suburbs of Adelaide, leading to fears of a second wave in the state. In response, Western Australia reimposes hard border controls with South Australia. (News.com.au) COVID-19 pandemic in Eswatini Prime Minister Ambrose Mandvulo Dlamini tests positive for COVID-19. (U.S. News and World Report) Worldwide, a record 660,905 new cases are reported over the weekend, according to the World Health Organization's COVID-19 dashboard. (France 24) Law and crime Michigan State Representative, Matt Maddock and a group of representatives began impeachment hearings for Michigan Governor, Gretchen Whitmer. (Michigan Bridge) 2020 Belarusian protests A Belarusian human rights group says that over 500 people have been arrested during protests against President Alexander Lukashenko. (ABC News) Politics and elections 2020 Moldovan presidential election The second round of presidential elections takes place in Moldova. (MSN News) Pro-European Union candidate Maia Sandu defeats pro-Russian incumbent Igor Dodon to be elected the first female President of Moldova. (DW) 2020 Brazilian municipal elections Brazilians attend polling stations all over the country to elect mayors and city councillors in an election deemed to be a test of President Jair Bolsonaro's popularity. (Financial Times) Two-thirds of mayoral candidates openly supported by Bolsonaro are defeated in the first round of elections, including São Paulo candidate Celso Russomanno. (BBC News) 2020 United States presidential election Incumbent president Donald Trump admits in a Twitter post that Joe Biden won the election. He follows up with a later tweet reaffirming his refusal to concede the election. (Sky News) 2020 Peruvian protests President Manuel Merino resigns five days after taking office as two demonstrators are shot dead and most of his Cabinet step down. (BBC News) Science and technology SpaceX Crew-1, Expedition 64 SpaceX successfully launches its Crew Dragon spacecraft carrying three NASA astronauts, Michael S. Hopkins, Victor J. Glover, Shannon Walker and JAXA astronaut Soichi Noguchi to the International Space Station. It is the first crewed operational flight of a Crew Dragon spacecraft and the first night launch in the United States since STS-130. (BBC News)

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(Posted) 2020 Moldovan presidential election

Article: 2020 Moldovan presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Maia Sandu (pictured) is elected first female President of Moldova, defeating incumbent Igor Dodon. (Post)
News source(s): Deutsche Welle The Telegraph (source for first female), AP
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionEstar (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 ArionEstar (talk) 09:21, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose a section tagged for expansion, the results only quote exit polls. And WP:LINKROT much? The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 10:44, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality but support in principle. Empty section. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 14:01, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Per Rambling. Maintenance tags and refs required and too many ELs/non-formatted refs. Gotitbro (talk) 14:56, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose needs expansion, but would've supported it otherwise. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 23:32, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• CommentThe non-formatted refs and expansion tags have been resolved. Can someone confirm whether this is sufficient? Joofjoof (talk) 01:12, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support The article is thorough and well-referenced, and gives a good synopsis of the candidates and issues of the election. Prose Results. I did not check against LINKROT, but if they have been addressed then this is as good an election article as I would expect.130.233.213.199 (talk) 12:07, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support Seems ready. Alsoriano97 (talk) 12:15, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support – Looks complete, although I'm not a fan of the glitzy campaign signs. – Sca (talk) 13:58, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
• Posting. --Tone 14:25, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Carlos Amadeu

Article: Carlos Amadeu (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Brazilian football manager. I am working on fleshing out the article a bit - Dumelow (talk) 07:21, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support sufficient for RD. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 10:41, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support well sourced little article JW 1961 Talk 17:47, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Lead should be a bit more than one sentence only saying he played and managed football.—Bagumba (talk) 08:32, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

  Lead expanded. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 08:36, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

•  Posted—Bagumba (talk) 08:45, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Norman Taylor (basketball)

Article: Norman Taylor (basketball) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)
• Updated by DaHuzyBru (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Australian basketball player. Article could perhaps use a little expansion but otherwise looks good - Dumelow (talk) 06:40, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

• Weak support it's brief but what's there is okay. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 10:40, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support Looks fine. Gotitbro (talk) 22:20, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support Basics there.—Bagumba (talk) 08:38, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment has been good to go for 12 hours. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 21:30, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 22:37, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) SpaceX Crew-1

Article: SpaceX Crew-1 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ First operational manned flight, SpaceX Crew-1 launches with astronauts Michael Hopkins, Victor Glover, Soichi Noguchi, and Shannon Walker. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ SpaceX Crew-1 launches with astronauts Michael Hopkins, Victor Glover, Soichi Noguchi, and Shannon Walker.
News source(s): CNN, Guardian
Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Pending a last-minute abort, this manned, ITNR launch should occur in 80 mins from posting this. I am still posting this so people can take a look at the article for last-minute checks. 205.175.106.183 (talk) 23:07, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Comment What is "First operational manned flight" supposed to mean? First for SpaceX or is it some technical lingo? If its only unique for being a SpaceX manned flight, why so? Needs to be clarified in the blurb. Gotitbro (talk) 23:37, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment - as I understand it, SpaceX made a test flight earlier this year, which just had dudes orbiting around for a while before coming down again, while this new one is a proper "mission", which will dock with the ISS. It would certainly need clarifying what that means, and I suspect just going with the shorter ALT blurb is better. The article's "Mission" section is currently lacking some references, so that will need fixing up before going live, and I suspect also a bit of prose on how the launch itself went, once that's known, would be good.  — Amakuru (talk) 00:08, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support. I was coming in to nominate this myself. Agree that this is ITNR. Re: above comment from Amakuru -- almost that, the only edit is that the previous launch also docked at the ISS carrying astronauts Bob and Doug. The difference is that the previous launch was a test launch/mission and hence designated as 'demo'. The article should be updated with launch details. Would also recommend that the blurb be edited to mention the ISS as well.Ktin (talk) 00:29, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Cmnt it just launched. Previous one was a demo/test flight. This is a contracted, commercial flight. Alt has the non-verbose version. 205.175.106.183 (talk) 00:54, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support per above. Davey2116 (talk) 08:05, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment takeoff time seems to be unreferenced, and I'd wait for this to dock successfully if it was down to me, but ITNR probably just refers to the launch, so no complaints if, once the time is sourced, this being posted. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 10:46, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support per above. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 14:00, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support – Per TRM, but wait until docking. A milestone? – Sca (talk) 14:12, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose I really don't understand why this one is notable. In the first mission, they launched and recovered 2 people from space, docked with ISS, did four EVAs, the mission wasn't exactly short like the 1st missions of US, Russia, and China "spent over 100 hours completing science experiments, while traveling 27 million miles over their 1024 orbits of the Earth". Hats-off to space-x for basically checking most of the boxes in one go the first time (which would have taken governments years...), for which we duly posted as ITN, but this time there is nothing noteworthy incremental that would justify second posting. Albertaont (talk) 14:33, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

  @Albertaont: WP:ITN/R#Space exploration says that "the launch of crewed orbital spaceflights" qualifies automatically for ITN, so per usual convention we shouldn't be opposing this on notability grounds. If you think that condition for a recurring item is invalid, then you'll have to suggest a change at Wikipedia talk:In the news and gain consensus for that. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 14:50, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

  • The rule is the rule, I guess the change will have to be suggested there. Albertaont (talk) 16:16, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support I would've thought that routine ISS launches wouldn't qualify for ITN, but I guess ITN/R says otherwise. We should discuss that at some point. Juxlos (talk) 15:13, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

This does need to be revisited on ITNR. I thought this was unique being the first commercial mission et all, but that is not the case and that mission had been posted earlier sometime ago on ITN. Don't see the uniqueness of this at all. Gotitbro (talk) 18:51, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

I've argued for years that routine ISS crew rotation flights should not be ITNR. No-one has come up with a counter-argument, but the discussion always peters out without any changes the the listing. See the archives of WT:ITNR. Modest Genius ^talk 13:50, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

• Posted Alt1. The other blurb was confusingly worded. --Jayron32 16:38, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

RD: Ray Clemence

Article: Ray Clemence (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Black Kite (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Well-known international goalkeeper. Article needs work. Black Kite (talk) 22:07, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose Orange tags and a lot of unreferenced statements including whole sections. Gotitbro (talk) 23:39, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Sadly the referencing issues still remain.-- P-K3 (talk) 16:31, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

2020 Masters Tournament

Article: 2020 Masters Tournament (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In golf, Dustin Johnson wins the Masters Tournament. (Post)
News source(s): ESPN, CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by PCN02WPS (talk · give credit)
• Created by Johnsmith2116 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Johnsmith2116 (talk · give credit), TheCorriynial (talk · give credit) and Nigej (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 20:03, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Comment. Please can we update the prose summaries (text) for round 4 and one round of sourcing for the tables (this should be simple). Once that is done, this article is good for homepage. Congrats to Dustin Johnson! Ktin (talk) 20:36, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support - First player to get to twenty under at the Masters. Buried the competition by five strokes and didn't even know it til the end. Good night nurse! CoatCheck (talk) 03:25, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality - the "Field" section has gone back to the long and unwieldy format that we discussed earlier in the year as being non-optimal. Please see 2020 PGA Championship for an example of how this should look, after lots of good work was put into that one in getting it into shape. Also, quite a few cites needed throughout the article.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:45, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

  Thanks Amakuru. @PCN02WPS, Johnsmith2116, and TheCorriynial: - please can one of you have the recommendation from Amakuru looked at. This one looks real close to making it to the homepage. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 17:32, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

• Comment. I'll try to fix it to that, but a lot of the other Masters will need this treatment as well. Cites anyone can add. Most of the proboly needed info could be found on the Masters official website. TheCorriynial (talk) 23:20, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) Resignation of Manuel Merino

Article: 2020 Peruvian protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Under the enormous pressure of massive protests throughout Peru, Peruvian Interim President Manuel Merino resigns from the Presidency after just six days in office (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Peru devolves into a political crisis following the impeachment of Martín Vizcarra, mass nationwide protests, and the resignation of Interim President Manuel Merino
Alternative blurb II: ​ In Peru, following the impeachment and removal of President Martín Vizcarra, interim president Manuel Merino resigns amidst nationwide protests.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Peruvian Interim President Manuel Merino resigns from the presidency amidst under pressure from Peruvian protestors
Alternative blurb IV: ​ Manuel Merino, Interim President of Peru, resigns from the presidency after 12 cabinet ministers resign, pressure from Congress, and mass nationwide protests
News source(s): Reuters, WSJ, Bloomberg, U.S. News, AP
Credits:

• Nominated by DoctorSpeed (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Kind of a follow-up to the mass political crisis devolving in Peru. Not too related to the Impeachment of Martín Vizcarra, since the resignation was a result of pressure from protestors. I'll keep on working on the article and the altblurbs. User:DoctorSpeed

• Comment Probably not ITN/R with no replacement yet, and the blurbs need work to be less tabloid-y. Kingsif (talk) 18:29, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Update the existing blurb for the impeachment, which is still on the main page. See Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#(Posted)_Peru_president_impeached. If the situation is chaotic and disputed then move it to ongoing. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:33, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Move to Ongoing. It seems like this renders the previous blurb outdated, and we can expect further updates, so an ongoing seems best, until such time as a stable new leaders is promulgated.  — Amakuru (talk) 18:34, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support update to existing blurb. Does not support moving to Ongoing before it would have fallen off by age. No comment on whether it should go to Ongoing when it does. -- KTC (talk) 19:17, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

  The existing blurb hasn't "fallen off by age", it's fallen off because it's no longer true. The whole point of Ongoing is to cover stories that evolve constantly over a period of time, as this one now appears to be doing. We can't just keep bumping it back to the top of ITN every time there's a development.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:22, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support and merge this blurb with existing blurb for now until successor has been confirmed, which this blurb can be revised. I don't have a problem to posted it as ongoing as long as information remains up to date and available. 36.68.195.164 (talk) 22:18, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support ongoing This is what that section is for, a lot of uncertainty and multiple updates. Gotitbro (talk) 23:33, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support ongoing Wow, a lot of things are happening in Peru right now. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 02:01, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support either altblurb2 or ongoing. If we're going with a blurb update, I think it should mention the impeachment, the protests, and this resignation. Ongoing is good because the situation is so volatile. Davey2116 (talk) 08:05, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support blurb II Meets WP:ITNR's "Changes to the head of government". Remove old blurb about Vizcarra's removal if it's still on the Main Page.—Bagumba (talk) 08:27, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Posted, blurb II. I think it makes indeed sense to update the blurb instead of ongoing. --Tone 08:56, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

2020 MotoGP World Championship

Article: 2020 MotoGP World Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In motorcycle racing, Spanish rider Joan Mir wins the 2020 MotoGP World Championship. (Post)
News source(s): Crash.net, The Seattle Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Unnamelessness (talk · give credit)
• Created by Ubaldocoldagelli (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Grdijk (talk · give credit), Fahrurozi.86 (talk · give credit) and Babymissfortune (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: It would be very appreciated if someone could upload a free work of Mir. Unnamelessness (talk) 14:01, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support - Added a photo per Unnamelessness' request. Article looks well-sourced. Joofjoof (talk) 23:44, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
  • I guess the image will have to wait. Thanks The Rambling Man for catching remaining CN's, and Unnamelessness for resolving them. Joofjoof (talk) 20:31, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment - All cn tags are now resolved. Feel free to raise any issues. Unnamelessness (talk) 05:05, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment: Have we posted past MotoGP World Championships? —Brigade Piron (talk) 10:35, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

  Brigade Piron, Probably not, but from my point of view, the article is good to go. Unnamelessness (talk) 11:43, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support - I don't follow motorbike racing but I've seen this title win reported on the news a fair bit. It's a world championship, good for the person who won. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 07:39, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) Lewis Hamilton and 2020 Formula One World Championship

Articles: Lewis Hamilton (talk · history · tag) and 2020 Formula One World Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Lewis Hamilton (pictured) wins the 2020 Turkish Grand Prix and becomes Formula 1 World Champion for the seventh time, equalling Michael Schumacher's record. Mercedes are Constructor's Champions. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Lewis Hamilton (pictured) is crowned 2020 Formula One World Champion after winning the 2020 Turkish Grand Prix, equalling Michael Schumacher's record of seven, while Mercedes win the Constructors' Championship for the seventh straight year.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Lewis Hamilton (pictured) wins the Formula One World Championship for a record-equalling seventh time, while Mercedes win the constructors' title.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Lewis Hamilton (pictured) wins the Formula One World Championship, while Mercedes win the constructors' title.
News source(s): (Sky news) [4]
Credits:

• Nominated by Mjroots (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Ave (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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 Mjroots (talk) 12:11, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support.5225_C (talk • contributions) 12:23, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support. Well-driven. Respect. Unnamelessness (talk) 12:24, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose will consider support breaking a relatively long-term record, but not equalling it. 2021 it is. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 12:27, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
  • @The Rambling Man: - this is ITNR, which I didn't realise when nominating. Any objections on quality? Mjroots (talk) 13:01, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
    • Hamilton article is good, Mercedes less so, plenty of the early stuff unreferenced. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 13:54, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment I've changed the entry to ITNR, and added an alternative blurb. Unnamelessness (talk) 12:30, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Saying "Lewis Hamilton crowns the 2020 Formula One World Championship" doesn't make grammatical sense. He has been crowned champion, he hasn't crowned the championship.
  5225_C (talk • contributions) 12:35, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

•  Done. Unnamelessness (talk) 12:46, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Comment - Blurb expanded per ITNR. Mjroots (talk) 12:53, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support per ITNR. Grimes2 (talk) 12:58, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment Shouldn't the blurb anchor be the 2020 Turkish Grand Prix since this is an ITNR nom? Please fix it. Gotitbro (talk) 13:05, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
  • No, see WP:ITN/R - Driver's and Constructor's Champions are the ITN/R items. Mjroots (talk) 13:24, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

    Mjroots: Yes, but the event is usually what is bolded. Wouldn't it be 2020 Formula One World Championship?—Bagumba (talk) 14:42, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

    • @Bagumba: - I don't know, but would not object to a blurb that bolds Hamilton and the 2020 F1 WC. Please feel free to propose an altblurb. Mjroots (talk) 17:05, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose unless you remove the record from both the blurb and alt. It makes the blurb seem overly long and trivial. Support alt3. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 16:03, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment - I have added a succinct blurb, linking to the actual championsihp article, as would be expected for the ITN/R entry. I've also mentioned that the win is record-equalling, which could be removed from the blurb if people feel strongly that that's not relevant.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:06, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
  • I think it's usually just the winners. For example the blurb for the 2020 NBA Finals didn't mention that the Lakers tied the league record for most championships.—Bagumba (talk) 17:18, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

    Yes, but this is a significant achievement, and probably newsworthy in its own right, independent of the ITN/R rules. Although perhaps, as TRM says, we could hold off for next year if and when he breaks the record. I weakly support inclusion I guess.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:38, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

    • Amakuru's Alt III with Hamilton also bolded is acceptable. To be clear, Hamilton's achievement is ITN-worthy in its own right, regardless of any ITNR considerations. The two can be combined. Mjroots (talk) 18:07, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

      Do you mean my ALT II? I have tweaked that so that Hamilton is also bolded, since he is seemingly the subject of the record equalling feat.  — Amakuru (talk) 18:36, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

      Alt II is acceptable. Mjroots (talk) 19:50, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support alt3 205.175.106.183 (talk) 23:01, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment: no matter which blurb is posted, can we not post a photo with it? That Lewis Hamilton photo has been on the front page so many times. As an alternative, a picture of Lewis' car might be better (File:Lewis Hamilton 2020 Tuscan Grand Prix - race day.jpg).  Bait30  ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 00:16, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Marked as ready - no real opposition to posting. Suggest ALT II is used. Mjroots (talk) 07:53, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support alt 3 only. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 10:49, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Posted ALT 3. There is consensus for the short version of the blurb, which also conforms with ITN/R. Currently I don't see a consensus for including info about the record-equalling title, but discussion can continue and the hook expanded if the discussion develops.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:39, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

  Just to be clear on this, I've posted the minimal version here since consensus for that is clear. But per my above comment I would support alt 2 if there's consensus for that - just that at present I don't think there is... Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 12:42, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) Tigray conflict

Article: Tigray conflict (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, AP, Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by Brandmeister (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Ongoing and apparent cause of previous concerns about Ethiopia, article in generally good nick Brandmeister^talk 10:15, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Comment I edit-conflicted with you nominating this. I am not sure of my position on it yet but for the record this is the comment I had on my nomination: "with the recent Mai Kadra massacre and Asmara rocket attacks as well as accusations of war crimes from the UN, I think it is worth us discussing the merits of adding the conflict to ongoing" - Dumelow (talk) 10:20, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support Looks fine. The most prominent armed conflict in news as of now (after the Nagorno Karabakh war ended). Gotitbro (talk) 12:30, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support – Includes bombing of Eritrean capital Asmara. – Sca (talk) 13:22, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support Ethiopian civil war 2 question mark? CoronaOneLove (talk) 15:28, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support This won't go away anytime soon. Albertaont (talk) 16:11, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality - certainly seems noteworthy enough, per above. But the structure and format of this article don'tlook great at the moment unfortunately. The actual conflict itself is reduced to a "timeline", which isn't really a substitute for proper prose summarising the event as a whole. And the lead is only two lines long at present. There's a "article undergoing restructuring" template at the top, so perhaps this is already being resolved, and in any case we should wait until said restructure is complete. As a final point, since we haven't posted this before, shouldn't it start with a proper blurb rather than going straight to Ongoing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amakuru (talk • contribs)
  • @Amakuru: The timeline structure of the article is probably disqualifying at FAC, but not for the Main Page IMO; I also don't think that a blurb is required prior to posting to Ongoing. I would post this right now but for the {{Under construction}} template on it. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 20:27, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support. I was slightly surprised not to see this earlier. A major conflict with potentially massive implications in East Africa. The timeline format is currently fine for posting but I do agree that it might cease to be as the conflict develops and the list gets longer and longer. —Brigade Piron (talk) 18:04, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose the article is simply not ready to go on the front page. Impact is also unclear. I read potentially massive implications. Ok. Maybe. Too early too tell. We are not a newsticker and so we can wait until the situation becomes clear. 2A02:A451:8B2D:1:104A:9C3F:31A:8C74 (talk) 06:28, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Too early to claim that it has implications? Plenty of reliable sources have addressed this exact aspect (BBC, Reuters among others). It's true that we aren't a news ticker, but if we don't post the outbreaks of large-scale conflicts we really need to ask why we have an ITN section at all. —Brigade Piron (talk) 09:41, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support per above. Davey2116 (talk) 08:05, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Someone please have a look at the orange tag that calls for introduction expansion, otherwise I think this is more or less ready for ongoing. --Tone 09:45, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
•  Posted to ongoing; I have dealt with the lead problems. The latest update on this, however, is only two days younger than our oldest blurb, so perhaps that might be something to look out for and possibly discuss. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 06:39, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Soumitra Chatterjee

Article: Soumitra Chatterjee (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Indian Express, NDTV
Credits:

• Nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Gotitbro (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian Actor in Bengali films. Article requires some work in adding citations across sections and also removal of the yellow box. Nice work by Gotitbro. I think this article looks clean for RD. Ktin (talk) 08:26, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Comment, lots of work needed. None of the publications are cited, most of the awards are uncited, passages of main text uncited, grammar needs an overhaul ("He acted more than 210 films in his career till 2016", " In Teen Bhubaner Pare (1969), he again shared the screen with the Tanuja, and his flamboyant and peppy way of romance" etc.) - Dumelow (talk) 10:33, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose reference issues, tone issues. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 11:51, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

*Oppose For now. Mostly what Dumelow said. Gotitbro (talk) 12:54, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

@Ktin: I have done some cleanup for the the lead (yellow box), refs and the issues raised above (publications). Please see if there are further issues with tone, otherwise it looks ready for RD. Gotitbro (talk) 03:46, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Support Looks fine now. Gotitbro (talk) 04:15, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support as the nominator, thanks to the edits from Gotitbro and others. I did a round of copy edits, and I think it meets hygiene expectations for homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 04:09, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 22:39, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership

Article: Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ ASEAN and five regional partners sign the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership, creating the world's largest trade bloc by percent of global GDP. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Fifteen East, Southeast Asian and Australasian states signed the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership, creating the world's largest prospected trade bloc by GDP or population.
News source(s): "China, Japan and 13 other Asian-Pacific nations have agreed to found the world's largest trading bloc" ABC News
Credits:

• Nominated by Ivar the Boneful (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TheGreatSG'rean (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Article could do with a little work in some areas. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 10:14, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Weak Support top economic news this morning. The criticism section doesn't "need expansion". The article itself, lotta proseline. That table has no refs and doesn't really add anything it could go. --LaserLegs (talk) 11:19, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support – important news, and the article seems to cover the key information. —Granger (talk · contribs) 11:29, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose The terms of the agreement are completely absent. Also, if you want to say "negotiations took 9 years and 27 meetings" that's fine. We don't need a proseline list of dates and locations of those meetings. GreatCaesarsGhost 12:04, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

User:GreatCaesarsGhost the terms of the agreement are not publicly available yet. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 15:11, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Comment I have no idea where and how you got the idea that the terms are "absent" or "not publicly available", as both Japan and Australia has published the full text of RCEP agreement, even including annexes. Also (even if it really were absent) I cannot see any connection between "terms absent" and an objection for ITN - would you please clarify your reasoning for that? --173.68.165.114 (talk) 22:52, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Comment Not sure about this. While significant not really sure what will come of this, a lot of media hype was created earlier but that has probably dampened due to the pandemic. I'd say wait for sometime and if its still being given prominent coverage internationally we can consider it. Gotitbro (talk) 12:58, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Oppose And now oppose, thanks Masem for pointing this out, only an agreement for a pact no ratification as of yet. Gotitbro (talk) 16:49, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose as this requires ratification by the member countries which could take two years. It is important (scope like formation of EU), but not yet assured. --Masem (t) 14:37, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

  Comment Concerning the case of TPP, non-ractificationess didn't pose a successful objection (and of course, TPP was in ITN for a second time when it's ractified). I wonder if there's any change in ITN certeria during this five years. --173.68.165.114 (talk) 23:01, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose Support Thanks 173.68.165.114 (talk · contribs) for convincing me. Cheers. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 16:07, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support Front page coverage in almost all asian pacific countries, and it is still getting decent coverage even in North America. Albertaont (talk) 16:10, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support Ratification will almost certainly come piecemeal considering there are 13 countries involved, and I don't see any clear indication to assume it would not pass in all countries. Otherwise, this is by some measure the biggest trade bloc in the world and it takes up considerable attention in international news - some headlines, but definitely top of the economy section at least. Juxlos (talk) 18:07, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support. This has already got plenty of global coverage. I'm intrigued by the suggestion that ratification is more important here than signing. Would we not have featured the United Nations Conference on International Organization simply because it was several months before Luxembourg ratified it? —Brigade Piron (talk) 18:17, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support in itself historic, regardless if it is ratified or not. The scope of it is what is significant, and per Brigade Piron and per 173.68.165.114, it is deserving of ITN. Please reconsider Destroyeraa, Masem and GreatCaesarsGhost based off 173.68.165.114's comment and others. Thanks. 108.46.219.194 (talk) 01:18, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Done. Good reasoning. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 01:59, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
  • My objection was and remains the lack of any detail of what is in the agreement. As noted in the ABC article above "It will take time to fully assess exact details of the agreement encompassing tariff schedules and rules for all 15 countries involved — the tariffs schedule just for Japan is 1,334 pages long. It is not expected to go as far as the European Union in integrating member economies but does build on existing free trade arrangements." We need something like this in the article, preferably from a few different sources. GreatCaesarsGhost 03:05, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you! May I understand the objection this way: it is not the lack of detail but the lack of understanding of the detail. Since the agreement is too detailed and technical, it is almost impossible to overall catch the effect of those numbers, and the most practical way for most international analysts who do not have enough time and resources to input and simulating all these data into a supercomputer is simply wait and see what will happen. Correct me if my understanding of your objection is incorrect. --173.68.165.114 (talk) 04:32, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Btw I added a geographic based alt blurb, for I think many non-Asians may not be familiar with what ASEAN is. --173.68.165.114 (talk) 04:32, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose it might or might not be significant, but the article for sure is not even close to being ready for the front page. A tiny section on the actual provisions of the agreement, one sentence on the ex-ante impact, a bullet point list of negotiation dates, but almost nothing about what was negotiated. And nothing on the background, rationale, political economy. And btw, I also agree that it should be posted one it comes into effect, AFTER ratification. 2A02:A451:8B2D:1:104A:9C3F:31A:8C74 (talk) 06:22, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support per above. Historic agreement. Davey2116 (talk) 08:05, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose per Masem. Until this is ratified, it is really just speculative. Particularly as, per GCG, we do'nt know the details to judge how significant it is. We should post as and when it is ratified and/or details show its importance. Also, per IP above, the quality needs improving before we would consider posting it.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:12, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

  THe IP stated the entire agreement has been released. It'll take time to go through it, but an agreement this big and important should have a lot of journalists reading and commenting on it quickly. That said, there's already a good argument for waiting, and waiting should address the substance problems. GreatCaesarsGhost 12:21, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

  Fair enough, I agree with that. Once the detail that you mention is included, and assuming it doesn't turn out to be just some minor deal to reduce tariffs on paperclips or something, it could be good to go.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:28, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

  @Amakuru: I'll just cite one of the permutations as an example, from a Nikkei source. Japan's trade with China ($350 billion) will see tariffs removed on c. 90% of products. Similar is true with South Korea-Japan ($100 billion or so). It basically is a free trade deal, minus a number of select commodities. Juxlos (talk) 15:06, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support why not? It's a huge deal encompassing 30% of the world's economy. Banedon (talk) 12:16, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support If this isn't significant enough I don't know what economic news is. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 19:06, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose The short Contents section convinces me that this is not actually impactful. It's an incomplete tariff reduction. Confusingly, it is supposed to reduce red tape, but at the same time introduce rules of origin regulations. The section flatly says that the most salient subjects are not addressed in the agreement, and that it is not as comprehensive as previous treaties. It is not topline economic news in my corner of the world.130.233.213.199 (talk) 07:06, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

November 14

Portal:Current events/2020 November 14

November 14, 2020 (2020-11-14) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Tigray conflict Asmara rocket attacks Explosions are reported in the Eritrean capital Asmara amid reports of a missile attack from Tigray, Ethiopia. The Eritrean government confirms missiles were launched at the capital but said that they missed and instead landed in the countryside. The attack comes just hours after the Tigray People's Liberation Front (TPLF) threatened to target Eritrea. (Eritrea Hub) The TPLF launched missiles at Gondar Airport and Bahir Dar Airport in Amhara Region, Ethiopia. A spokesman for the TPLF says, "As long as the attacks on the people of Tigray do not stop, the attacks will intensify". (CNN) Hundreds of people cross the Tekezé River on small boats into Sudan, fleeing the escalating fighting in Tigray. There are now around 8,000 refugees stranded on the Ethiopia–Sudan border. (Reuters) 2020 Western Saharan clashes The Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic declares war on Morocco, formally ending a 29-year truce. (Axios) Disasters and accidents 2020 Pacific typhoon season Around 468,000 people are to be evacuated in Vietnam ahead of the landfall of Typhoon Vamco, which has already killed 53 people in the Philippines. Prime Minister Nguyễn Xuân Phúc warns people of the seriousness of the storm. (Reuters) 2020 Atlantic hurricane season Tropical Storm Iota strengthens in the Caribbean Sea and is expected to intensify in the coming hours, threatening many parts of Central America, including Belize, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama and Colombia. The storm is expected to grow into a hurricane. (CNN) Piatra Neamț hospital fire A fire breaks out in a hospital in Piatra Neamț, Romania, killing at least 10 people. (Digi24) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in North America COVID-19 pandemic in Canada COVID-19 pandemic in Alberta Alberta reports 1,026 new cases, a new single-day record since the pandemic began. (CBC) COVID-19 pandemic in Manitoba Manitoba reports a record 15 new fatalities, including 11 deaths that are linked to Maples Long Term Care Home in Winnipeg, bringing the death toll to 152. (CKY-DT) COVID-19 pandemic in Ontario Ontario reports a new single-day record of 1,581 cases, bringing the total number of cases in the province to 92,761. (Global News) COVID-19 pandemic in Quebec Quebec reports a new single-day record of 1,448 cases, bringing the total number of cases in the province to 122,634. (Montreal Gazette) COVID-19 pandemic in Saskatchewan Saskatchewan reports a new single-day record of 308 cases, bringing the total number of cases in the province to 1,691. (CKCK-DT) COVID-19 pandemic in the United States COVID-19 pandemic in Minnesota Minnesota reports 8,703 new cases, a new single-day record as seven-day positivity rate reaches 15 percent. (Minnesota Public Radio) COVID-19 pandemic in New Jersey New Jersey reports a new single-day record of 4,395 new cases, surpassing the previous record set in April during the first wave of the pandemic. (NJ.com) COVID-19 pandemic in North Dakota North Dakota reports 2,278 new cases, a new single day record. (KVLY-TV) COVID-19 pandemic in Washington Washington state reports 2,323 new cases in the past 24 hours, a single-day record since the start of the pandemic. (KOMO-TV) COVID-19 pandemic in Mexico Mexico surpasses one million cases of COVID-19. (ABC News) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Austria Chancellor Sebastian Kurz announces a two-week national lockdown effective November 17. All schools, non-essential services and shops will be closed, and people will be told not to meet anyone from outside their household as the number of cases continues to rise. (BBC News) COVID-19 pandemic in Greece Education Minister Niki Kerameus announces the closure of kindergartens, primary schools, and childcare centers across the country for two weeks beginning November 16 as part of tightened lockdown measures aimed to reduce the spread of COVID-19. (Ekathimerini) COVID-19 pandemic in Poland Poland surpasses 10,000 deaths from COVID-19 after a record 548 new deaths are reported in the last 24 hours. (RMF 24) COVID-19 pandemic in Russia Russia reports a record 22,702 new cases in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide total since the start of the pandemic to 1.9 million cases. (The Moscow Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Ukraine Ukraine reports a record 12,524 new confirmed cases, bringing the nationwide total since the start of the pandemic to 525,176 cases. (Kyiv Post) COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Iran The government announces that Iran will impose stricter restrictions beginning November 21. In Tehran and about 100 other towns and cities which are classified as "red zone" or "Level 3", non-essential businesses will close and cars will not be allowed to enter or leave the city. (IRNA) (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in Japan Japan reports 1,731 new confirmed cases, a new record for the third consecutive day, as many prefectures such as Osaka and Chiba report record numbers of daily cases. (Kyodo News) COVID-19 pandemic in South Korea South Korea reports 205 new confirmed cases, exceeding 200 for the first time since September, according to data from the Korea Disease Control and Prevention Agency. (Yonhap News Agency) COVID-19 pandemic in Australia, travel restrictions related to the COVID-19 pandemic Western Australia reopens its hard border for the first time in seven months after it was closed due to restrictions related to the COVID-19 pandemic. (ABC Australia) International relations Foreign relations of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic Guyana withdraws its recognition of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic (SADR) following the military clashes in Guerguerat. Guyana's Foreign Minister Hugh Todd says his country will "support the efforts of the United Nations to achieve a peaceful and mutually acceptable solution". (Morocco World News) Politics and elections 2020 United States election protests Thousands of supporters of President Donald Trump protest the results of the 2020 United States presidential election in Washington, D.C. (BBC News)

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(Closed) RD: Adolfo Bolea

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Article: Adolfo Bolea (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Diario de Cádiz (in Spanish)
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Spanish footballer and manager. I've expanded it to include his management career and it looks OK now - Dumelow (talk) 16:42, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

• Comment Just added 1 cn in the "Club career" section re hat-trick and scoring records, would support (ping me) when that is addressed JW 1961 Talk 17:42, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Joseywales1961, can't believe I missed that one. Now reffed - Dumelow (talk) 18:08, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support Thanks for the update, looks ready for RD JW 1961 Talk 18:11, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

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(Closed) Piatra Neamț hospital fire

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Article: Piatra Neamț hospital fire (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A fire at the COVID-19 intensive care unit of a hospital in Piatra Neamț, Romania, kills ten people and leaves seven others injured. (Post)
News source(s): BBC Euronews Al Jazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionEstar (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Stub but many sources and considerably tragic event. ArionEstar (talk) 12:54, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Weak oppose though a tragic event, the death toll is still rather low compared to other fires/disasters we’ve posted. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 16:09, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose. I presume that the international coverage draws more from the COVID connection that the deathtoll, as Destroyeraa says, or fact of it being in a hospital. Certainly very tragic, but not globally significant. —Brigade Piron (talk) 18:08, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support: worldwide news, extensive coverage.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 00:58, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Would have been ideal to post closer to the day but it didn't and the news has become old. No longer a support.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 07:32, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

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(Closed) RD: Des O'Connor

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Article: Des O'Connor (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

• Nominated by Ritchie333 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jontel (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Sing on our show? You can't sing on your own show! All round entertainer and nice guy, who didn't care about being fashionable. Article needs many more sources, but people are working on it. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:34, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Comment. Sourcing is frankly only one of the big issues with this article. There are a few sections which are not even in prose! —Brigade Piron (talk) 18:11, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose for now, per Brigade Piron there are many citation needed tags and the Career section in bullet points needs to be addressed JW 1961 Talk 21:02, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support This has now been reported in several news sources as confirmed by a quick Google search. Furthermore, O'Connor is very well-known at least in the UK. Agreed that there are several CNs in the Career section of his article, but is this criterion for inclusion as an RD? — Smjg (talk) 15:45, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

• Smjg, I think you misunderstand the criteria for including an article in RD - please read WP:ITNRD. The key thing is article quality, not importance, and this article is currently one of the worst nominated here for quite a while! —Brigade Piron (talk) 10:47, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

  Brigade Piron, I was hoping I could blitz through it and source everything, but I haven't had time. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 17:14, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Max Gros-Louis

Article: Max Gros-Louis (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Canadian First Nation chief. I'd like to do a bit more work on it, but it's getting there - Dumelow (talk) 09:24, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support Good enough. Ҥ (talk) 09:51, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 11:34, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support. Looks a clean C-class biography. Good for homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 15:57, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Posted  — Amakuru (talk) 16:19, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Doug Supernaw

Article: Doug Supernaw (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Associated Press; Houston Chronicle; Variety
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Joseywales1961 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 01:07, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support - Good. I can see any missing refs.--SirEdimon ^Dimmi!!! 07:23, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support Ҥ (talk) 09:44, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose for now unfortunately, as ever, it's the discography that falls down on referencing. It's not clear where I look to verify the label and "CD, Cassette" etc for the albums, and some refs e.g. the US County one in the chart performance seem to be dead. All else looks good though.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:14, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support Updated dead links, refs added and removed singles and videos that there were no RS to verify (re Amakuru the labels and formats are under releases on allmusic sometimes it's a hover button) JW 1961 Talk 13:18, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment There's still an orange box at Doug Supernaw#Discography re: citations needed. It needs to be resolved (or removed if no longer relevant).—Bagumba (talk) 14:31, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• @Bagumba and Amakuru: tag removed; discography refs resolved. —Bloom6132 (talk) 14:43, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Comment thanks for the updates, but there's still a few things that are unclear to me. Once these are resolved, I think it'll be good to go:
  1. The link for the US Country album chart positions, just points to https://www.billboard.com/charts/country-albums, which defaults to the chart as of this week. How am I supposed to translate that page into verifying the peak position for Supernaw's albums? It looks like a Paywall site, so I'm not sure what lies beneath, but it seems like explicit links verifying the peak positions would be better.
  2. Ditto for US country songs chart.
  3. The studio albums don't seem to have AllMusic links, so I can't verify the release date, label and formats for those.
  4. The cite links in the "Music videos" table seem to be broken - they all just redirect to the generic page https://www.youtube.com/user/cmtvideo/.  — Amakuru (talk) 16:14, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

@Amakuru: re point #3, I've added an AllMusic ref to his album discography. For points #1 and 2, you could use the "Date Search" dropdown function that comes after "The week of …". That part is not behind a paywall. And explicit links to peak position charts were not required for the ITN noms of Jerry Jeff Walker and Johnny Bush just over a month ago. —Bloom6132 (talk) 16:43, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Bloom6132: Having the reader query up to 52 weeks to find a given rank for one song is not exactly verifiable. For the US tracks, Reno (Doug Supernaw song) used https://www.billboard.com/music/Doug-Supernaw/chart-history/CSI, which had all of his ranked songs in one place. Not sure if that single-link equivalent exists for the Canadian charts. Otherwise, those individual song articles seem to have some relevant citations for the respective song.—Bagumba (talk) 17:03, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

@Bagumba: the link you provided is already included in the article, so I've expanded its use into the Singles table. As for the Canadian charts, the ref from the Canadian government (Library and Archives Canada database) is the only reliable source that I know of. I can't say that about the other external links in the RPM article. —Bloom6132 (talk) 00:07, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

@Bagumba and Amakuru: just added archive URLs to the "Music videos" table (addressing point #4). @Spencer and Stephen: I think this may be ready to go. —Bloom6132 (talk) 10:02, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Almost there! Still wondering how we verify those US Country chart numbers though... the 27, 48 and 42?  — Amakuru (talk) 12:08, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

@Amakuru: done. —Bloom6132 (talk) 12:50, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Bloom6132: For the other Billboard charts for Supernaw, go to that link you already used at https://www.billboard.com/music/Doug-Supernaw/chart-history/CSI. Where it says "Hot Country Song" up top is a drop-down menu, where you can get to other charts specifically for him. For example, selecting "Top Country Albums" will bring you to https://www.billboard.com/music/doug-supernaw/chart-history/CLP, which you can use for the "US Country" column for the studio albums. All that's left is Canada. Perhaps others might say the article is mostly sourced and be OK? Other options are to move it to the talk page. Good luck.—Bagumba (talk) 12:48, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Bagumba I thought ref 20 verifies the Canadian charts? That same government source for RPM was deemed acceptable in the RD nom Johnny Bush just over a month ago, because the URL was targeted for that specific artist (as opposed to linking to the general database for the reader to search). Surely it should be acceptable in this case, don't you think? —Bloom6132 (talk) 12:56, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Bloom6132: Sorry I dion't see that it was only for this artists. I'm probably not making a formal bolded !vote here, so people can interpret my comments how they want. It seems like all the sources are probably there among those 64 links. It's just a matter of clicking through each one until you get the one that's relevant. Correct? —Bagumba (talk) 13:32, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Correct. —Bloom6132 (talk) 13:51, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support Looks generally good to me. Gotitbro (talk) 14:52, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Posted. Thanks Bloom6132 for the updates to referencing. Seems like we more or less got there in the end, hence I'm withdrawing my previous objections, albeit that the links and finding specific facts may be a bit convoluted in places, per Bagumba above! Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 14:59, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

(Closed) RD: Hasan Muratović

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Article: Hasan Muratović (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): (Sarajevo Times)
Credits:

• Nominated by Alsoriano97 (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: 4th Prime Minister of Bosnia ans Herzegovina. Dies from COVID-19. Alsoriano97 (talk) 22:29, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose most of it unreferenced. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 22:50, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Per above it's largely unreferenced JW 1961 Talk 23:37, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Too many referencing issues. Gotitbro (talk) 14:50, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

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(Closed) RD: Armen Dzhigarkhanyan

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Article: Armen Dzhigarkhanyan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): (Armradio) meduza.io
Credits:

• Nominated by Alsoriano97 (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Renowned Armenian-Russian actor. Alsoriano97 (talk) 22:29, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose "selected" filmography (whatever that means) is unreferenced. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 22:51, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support, and yes, filmography has wikilinks to corresponding articles, all of which have references --Andrei (talk) 22:53, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

  This isn't true, nor is it helpful for RD - article referencing should standalone. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 11:39, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

  Some of those films don’t have articles. Stephen 11:42, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support while I don't like the idea of "selected filmographies" either, I think the article is suitable for RD JW 1961 Talk 23:40, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment. Filmography (including voice credits) needs to be sourced on the page itself. Wikilinks to other wiki articles should not be considered substitutes for sources. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 00:02, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

  The entire Sean Connery filmography has only four sources. Yet, there were no problems with him. --Andrei (talk) 00:54, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

  That article wasn’t put on the main page. Stephen 05:02, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose per TRM. The filmography needs sourcing before this goes up.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:07, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose on (1) unreffed 'ography and (2) LISTCRIT. Point (2) can apparently be resolved with {{Inc-film}} per this recent example which we we posted.130.233.213.199 (talk) 10:35, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

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November 13

Portal:Current events/2020 November 13

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(NBC News) Aftermath of the 1998 United States embassy bombings An intelligence official says that Abdullah Ahmed Abdullah, Al-Qaeda’s second-in-command, accused of helping to mastermind the 1998 bombings of two United States embassies in Africa, was killed in Iran in August by Israeli operatives. (The New York Times via The Sydney Morning Herald) 2020 Western Saharan clashes Polisario Front declares war on Morocco accusing Rabat of breaking the 1991 ceasefire. (Bloomberg) Disasters and accidents 2020 Pacific typhoon season The death toll from the landfall of Typhoon Vamco in the Philippines rises to 53, according to the national police, with at least 22 still missing. The provinces of Cagayan and Isabela in northern Luzon are the most affected, mainly caused by floodwaters from the Magat Dam. (Xinhua) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in North America COVID-19 pandemic in the United States COVID-19 pandemic in Illinois Illinois registers 15,415 new cases in the last 24 hours, a new single-day record, breaking a national record that was previously set by Florida on July 12, when that state reported 15,299 cases. (WBBM-TV) COVID-19 pandemic in Maryland Maryland reports 1,869 new cases, a new single-day record. (The Baltimore Sun) COVID-19 pandemic in Michigan Michigan reports 8,516 new cases, a new single-day record. (WDIV-TV) COVID-19 pandemic in Nevada Nevada Governor Steve Sisolak tests positive for COVID-19. He says he is symptom-free but will quarantine at his home for ten days. (Las Vegas Review-Journal) COVID-19 pandemic in New York New York reports more than 5,000 new cases for the first time since April, when the state registers 5,401 cases. The positivity rate also reaches 2.65 percent. (The Hill) COVID-19 pandemic in North Dakota North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum issues a statewide face mask mandate and impose several business restrictions in an effort to contain the spread of COVID-19. The new executive order will take effect tomorrow. (ABC News) COVID-19 pandemic in Oregon Oregon Governor Kate Brown announces a statewide two-week "freeze" starting November 18, which will limit restaurants and bars to take-out only and close gyms, indoor and outdoor recreational facilities. (OPB) COVID-19 pandemic in Washington, D.C. More than 130 Secret Service agents have been ordered to isolate or quarantine because they tested positive for the coronavirus or had close contact with infected co-workers. (The Washington Post) COVID-19 pandemic in Wisconsin Wisconsin reports 7,777 new cases, a new single-day record. The state also surpasses 300,000 total confirmed cases. (WBAY-TV) Nationwide, more than 180,000 cases reported in the United States, a new world record. (Forbes) COVID-19 pandemic in Canada COVID-19 pandemic in British Columbia British Columbia reports a record of 617 new cases in the past 24 hours, bringing its total number of cases to 20,985. (CBC) COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in India COVID-19 pandemic in Delhi Delhi reports 104 new fatalities on Thursday, the highest single-day figure since the beginning of the pandemic, bringing the overall death toll to 7,332. (The New Indian Express) COVID-19 pandemic in Indonesia, COVID-19 vaccine Indonesia reports a record 5,444 new cases in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide total to 457,735 cases. Central Java reports the highest number of new cases, with 1,362 new cases. (detikHealth) President Joko Widodo states that the country has sought emergency authorization to start a mass vaccination programme by the end of the year using CoronaVac and the Sinopharm vaccine. He also said that health workers, military and police will be the first to receive the vaccine. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in South Korea South Korea begins to fine people and operators who fail to wear masks in public. Under the new rules, people caught without masks in public venues face fines of up to 100,000 won (US$90), while the operators of those places face fines of up to three million won (US$2,700). (The Japan Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Germany The number of new confirmed cases in Germany surges to a record 23,542 cases over the past 24 hours, according to data from the Robert Koch Institute. (Zeit Online) COVID-19 pandemic in Italy The number of new confirmed cases in Italy surges to a record of 40,902 cases, pushing the nationwide total to 1.1 million cases as the government designates the Tuscany and Campania regions as high-risk "red zones". (ANSA) (BBC News) COVID-19 pandemic in Portugal Portugal surpasses 200,000 cumulative cases of COVID-19. (DGS) COVID-19 pandemic in Russia Russia reports a record 21,983 new cases in the past 24 hours, pushing the nationwide total since the start of the pandemic to 1.88 million cases. (The Moscow Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Sweden Sweden, whose government took a lighter approach to the pandemic, including not enforcing lockdowns, reports 5,990 new cases, a new single-day record that pushes the nationwide total to 177,395 cases. (Dagensvimmerby) COVID-19 pandemic in Switzerland; COVID-19 vaccine Switzerland begins reviews of Moderna's potential vaccine candidate. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in Ukraine The number of new confirmed cases in Ukraine surges to a record of 11,787 cases, pushing the nationwide total since the start of the pandemic to 512,652 cases. (Kyiv Post) COVID-19 pandemic in Oceania COVID-19 pandemic in Australia Prime Minister Scott Morrison announces that all states and territories in Australia will reopen their borders by Christmas, with the exception of Western Australia. (9 News) COVID-19 pandemic in New Zealand The Auckland CBD reopens after contact tracing of a new case revealed it was linked to a known case from a border isolation facility, reversing an earlier call for people to work from home. (RNZ) COVID-19 pandemic on cruise ships Seven passengers on SeaDream Yacht Club's SeaDream I cruise ship test positive for COVID-19, forcing the cruise line to cancel the remainder of the sailing and return the ship to a port in Barbados. (CNN) Law and crime Corruption in South Africa Ace Magashule, a top official of the African National Congress, is expected to face 21 charges of corruption in Bloemfontein, South Africa. (ABC News) Terrorism in Germany Federal prosecutors in Stuttgart state court charge 11 people with membership of the "Group S." far-right terror organization, allegedly planning to effect "conditions similar to civil war" by killing Muslims and attacking mosques so as to "shake the state and the social order" and eventually overthrow the German government. (AP via Chicago Daily Herald) Alcohol in Indonesia Twenty-one lawmakers from staunchly conservative Islamic parties, the Prosperous Justice Party (PKS) and the Development Unity Party (PPP), re-initiate their argument at the parliament to have the Bill on the Prohibition of Alcoholic Drinks passed into law. The bill has stalled in parliament ever since it was initiated by the same group in 2015. (Coconuts) A major police operation is conducted at the headquarters of Ubisoft Montreal following reports of a hostage situation. The employees remaining in the building are safely evacuated. Later, the police tell the local media that it was a false alarm. Police sources deem the 911 call that triggered the incident a hoax. (Le Journal de Montréal) (CBC) Recently unsealed court documents reveal that a teenager had been arrested last year for plotting an attack on an unidentified school in the Tasman District of New Zealand. He was in possession of an AR-15 style rifle, a modified shotgun, and homemade explosives. The suspect had pleaded guilty to charges of unlawful possession of restricted weapons and objectionable material and had been sentenced to two years of supervision. (Stuff) Politics and elections 2020 Belarusian protests Protesters gather in Belarus to mourn the death of 31-year-old protester Raman Bandarenka, who died in a hospital in Minsk after being beaten by security forces. (ABC News) 2020 Myanmar general election Early results show Myanmar's ruling National League for Democracy winning an absolute majority in the country's latest general election. The election is called unfair by the oppositional Union Solidarity and Development Party and is criticised by rights groups for alleged voter suppression and the political disenfranchisement of the Rohingya minority. (DW) Sports Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on sports The Egyptian Football Association announces that Liverpool forward Mohamed Salah has tested positive for COVID-19 shortly before Egypt's 2021 Africa Cup of Nations qualifier match against Togo. (Al Jazeera)

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(Posted) RD: Masatoshi Koshiba

Article: Masatoshi Koshiba (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYTimes
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Nobel laureate in Physics for work on Neutrinos. Death announced on this date. Unfortunately, didn't see this over the weekend. Could have done more justice to the article. Ktin (talk) 03:10, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support. Edits and expansion done. Article is well referenced. Meets all hygiene expectations for homepage / RD. Good to go. If someone wants to learn more about this topic you can start here. Ktin (talk) 04:08, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support. This looks ready for posting. —Brigade Piron (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
• @Amakuru, Stephen, Bagumba, and John M Wolfson: pardon the intrusion. Please can I request one of you to help have a look at this one, since the carousel might move beyond at any point now. This is ready for homepage / RD. Thanks. Ktin (talk) 12:43, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
• Posted - Dumelow (talk) 12:55, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

(Closed) Hurricane Eta

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Article: Hurricane Eta (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Hurricane Eta kills 165 people in the Caribbean and United States (Post)
News source(s): [5] [6]
Credits:

• Nominated by LaserLegs (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Dissipated on the 13th, should have been nominated sooner I guess. LaserLegs (talk) 10:41, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

• Comment This has already been posted before, so why nominate again? KittenKlub (talk) 12:01, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

  According to the talk page: "A news item involving Hurricane Eta was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 6 November 2020." Hmm. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 12:05, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

  I looked through the ITN/C history and didn't see it, so if I missed it, I apologize. --LaserLegs (talk) 14:43, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

• Snow Oppose Storm is dead. We literally just posted ETA a few days ago. Not newsworthy anymore. Maybe Iota will be but...~ Destroyeraa🌀 13:28, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
  • I see it in the template history -- where is the discussion for it? Honestly I can't find it. --LaserLegs (talk) 15:07, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
    • It was posted on November 6th. Howard the Duck (talk) 15:17, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

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• Post closing comment turning out the archive for November 3 and 4 are missing which is why I didn't see this had been posted. A little more benefit of the doubt and a little less snark would have been nice. Y'all do how you feel though --LaserLegs (talk) 11:20, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

  No snark in there, just facts. If you don't like it, don't post old news. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 11:25, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

(Closed) 2020 Western Saharan clashes

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Article: 2020 Western Saharan clashes (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Clashes erupted in Western Sahara as Morocco launched a military operation in the region (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Clashes erupted in Western Sahara as Morocco launched an offensive in the region
News source(s): Bloomberg, Associated Press, Al Jazeera, Reuters, France24
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Solavirum (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Biggest clashes since the 1991 war. Also, one of the parties labelled it a war. Altblurbs would be better imo. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 23:51, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose For now, no clarity on what the consequences are or will be. Also, the lead seems problematic with statements such as "internationally recognized as part of Morocco" which I don't see in the main linked articles. Gotitbro (talk) 05:48, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Gotitbro, fixed the lead issue. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 13:44, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

No you haven't; you've replaced "internationally recognized" with "unrecognized" which is flat-out untrue. ‑ Iridescent 14:20, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

War has been formally declared by one side. Need to keep a close eye on this situation, looks set to escalate. Gotitbro (talk) 13:02, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose – Premature. Scant detail in reports. Situation bears watching, though. – Sca (talk) 14:06, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
• Wait. This has been slightly overshadowed by the civil war in Ethiopia but may well become ITN-worthy. —Brigade Piron (talk) 17:12, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: John Meurig Thomas

Article: John Meurig Thomas (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): (BBC)
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Welsh scientist, trying to find some more sources but not much info at the moment - Dumelow (talk) 21:42, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support Good nom. Gotitbro (talk) 05:59, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support I can't see any missing refs. To me, it's ready to go.--SirEdimon ^Dimmi!!! 06:01, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support RIP, top bloke, will be missed. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 11:05, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
• Posted  — Amakuru (talk) 11:46, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) Typhoon Vamco

Article: Typhoon Vamco (2020) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Typhoon Vamco kills more than 42 people after hitting the Philippines. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Destroyeraa (talk · give credit)
• Created by Robloxsupersuperhappyface (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Chlod (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: I know in the last 2 weeks we've been posting a lot of typhoons hitting the Philippines, but they just can't catch a break! ~ Destroyeraa🌀 20:34, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

• Comment I totally agree that in the last few weeks we've not posted [7] [8] [9] a literal record number of storms hitting the United States / Caribbean .... *shrugs* --LaserLegs (talk) 21:22, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose - sadly this is normal for most storm impacts. Support since the toll is much higher now. Noah^Talk 22:21, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
• Wait. Still assessing the damages, and with the overwhelmed rescue operations in the Cagayan Valley, it'll take some time to identify the true extent of the deaths. Chlod (say hi!) 22:44, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
  • @Chlod and Hurricane Noah: The death toll of Vamco has risen to 42. How can a C5 kill 26 while a C2 kills more than 42 and a C1 kills 39? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Destroyeraa (talk • contribs) 22:56, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
    • People saw that the C5 didn't kill them so they let their guard down on the next one. Howard the Duck (talk) 23:01, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
    • Wind speed does not necessarily translate to impact as heavy rains can also cause massive floods which kill more, much like Typhoon Ketsana, which killed 710 despite being a Cat. 2-equivalent. Taking in whatever I can from news right now (meaning this isn't official state information, yet it is a good estimation), Goni's impact was limited since its damages were mostly due to winds, and most of those to be affected were evacuated in time. Marikina, Cagayan, and Isabela evacuated their citizens in low-lying areas early, however, when the dams opened and all the excess water was pushed out into the Cagayan River and Pasig River, all areas which were close to bodies of water part of the spillway systems, including those far from low-lying areas, were quickly filled up, giving the state little time to react given the limited rescue teams and the extent of the affected areas. In short, they failed to prepare for the flooding caused by the dams, causing massive floods in affected areas. However, due to the lack of sources on the topic, I can't put that in the article yet. Chlod (say hi!) 23:18, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support been a terrible month for tropical cyclones (and there's already another storm that's forecast to hit nicaragua as a c3+), and the Philippines seems to have really taken a beating, though I do think we may want to Wait until landfall in vietnam. Gex4pls (talk)
• Support per nom. It's unfortunate that the Philippines has been hit by typhoons in quick succession. The damage from Typhoon Vamco is already too much to ignore and floods have broken records again. Some others might dismiss this as just another typhoon, but several major international media outlets have been doing extensive coverage of the aftermath of this typhoon. LSGH (talk) (contributions) 07:24, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose for now. The lead needs some expansion, at the very least it sholud provide a bit of detail about what happened in the Philippines and the death toll. After that, good to go.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:52, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
  • @Amakuru: I've expanded the lead. If that's all that's required, it's pretty much good to go then. Chlod (say hi!) 13:04, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
• Wait, Vamco's expected to make landfall in Vietnam as a typhoon (yes, yet another one) in the next 12 hours, which will likely lead to a burst of new info. ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 16:09, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Never mind, I see it's just been posted. Blurb will likely need updating in the near future though. ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 16:13, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
• Posted - apologies, I posted it following Chlod's helpful update to the lead, withdrawing my own objections, and this was before KN2731 comment above. But I forgot to mention it here. I think there was broad consensus that it was already notable enough for posting, and as usual it can be updated as the death toll and locations hit changes.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:08, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
• Update required as official sources raised the death count to 67 people. Chlod (say hi!) 03:39, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

(Closed) RD: John Hays

Article: John Hays (businessman) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by BSMIsEditing (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Edwardx (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Founder of Hays Travel BSMIsEditing (talk) 17:08, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

• Comment Good sourcing, but this article needs to be longer (at least start-class). Joofjoof (talk) 17:24, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment – At 100 words, it's little more than a stub. – Sca (talk) 17:59, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Way too barebones a bio for RD. Gotitbro (talk) 18:21, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Sadly this one is still too stubby JW 1961 Talk 20:26, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Too short, sadly. - Poydoo can talk and edit 20:56, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Too short. Hanamanteo (talk) 04:53, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Stale Stephen 00:54, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Peter Sutcliffe

Article: Peter Sutcliffe (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Amakuru (talk · give credit)
• Updated by 84.71.144.41 (talk · give credit) and Karenkatewilson (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Serial killer, known as "The Yorkshire Ripper". Needs a bit of work adding extra cites etc, but looks in OK shape  — Amakuru (talk) 08:19, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support Was about to nominate this myself. Seems in a good condition to me. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 08:22, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support Looks generally ok, "interesting" nom. Gotitbro (talk) 08:43, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
• Posted Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 11:05, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

November 12

Portal:Current events/2020 November 12

November 12, 2020 (2020-11-12) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Tigray military intervention Amnesty International reports that massacres are taking place in the Tigray Region of Ethiopia after a conflict broke out last week. Amnesty cites witnesses blaming the Tigray People's Liberation Front for the "horrific tragedy" taking place as airstrikes continue to hit the region after Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed blamed the political group of committing war crimes. Amnesty's report could not identify the perpetrators of the massacres. (Reuters) Business and economy Economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic Economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic in India Finance Minister Nirmala Sitharaman announces a $35.14 billion package to stimulate the economy by boosting jobs, consumer demand, manufacturing, agriculture and exports hit by the COVID-19 pandemic. She said the package includes 9 billion rupees ($121 million) for development of a vaccine by the government’s biotechnology department. (ABC News) Disasters and accidents 2020 Atlantic hurricane season Hurricane Eta makes landfall as a tropical storm near Cedar Key, Florida. (ABC News) European migrant crisis The International Organisation for Migration says at least 74 people have died after their boat, which was carrying more than 120 people, capsized off the coast of Libya. The Libyan Coast Guard has rescued 47 survivors. (BBC News) 2020 Pacific typhoon season Typhoon Vamco makes landfall in Luzon in the Philippines and causes flooding in Metro Manila killing at least seven people. In Marikina alone, around 40,000 homes were fully or partially submerged. (Reuters) A helicopter carrying Multinational Force and Observers (MFO) peacekeepers crashes near Sharm el-Sheikh, South Sinai Governorate, Egypt. Seven people are killed, including five Americans, a French national and a Czech national. One crew member, an American, survived and was medically evacuated to an Israeli hospital. (BBC News) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in North America COVID-19 pandemic in the United States COVID-19 pandemic in Illinois Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot issues a new stay-at-home advisory that asks people to leave the house only for work, school or other essential reasons. It is scheduled to take effect for 30 days beginning at 6:00 a.m. CST on November 16. (WMAQ-TV) Illinois reports 12,702 new cases in the past 24 hours, a new single-day record since the pandemic began. (Chicago Sun-Times) COVID-19 pandemic in California California surpasses one million cases of COVID-19, becoming the second state after Texas to reach that milestone. (KABC-TV) COVID-19 pandemic in Michigan Michigan reports 6,940 new cases, a new single-day record, bringing the total number of confirmed cases to 236,225. (Detroit Free Press) COVID-19 pandemic in Minnesota Minnesota reports 7,228 new cases, a new single-day record, bringing the total number of confirmed cases to 201,795. (Star Tribune) Nationally, more than 150,000 cases are reported, setting a world record for a third consecutive day. (MSN) COVID-19 pandemic in Canada COVID-19 pandemic in Alberta Alberta Premier Jason Kenney announces new restrictions that will suspend indoor group fitness programs, team sports, group performance activities, limit the number of people who attend weddings and funeral services to 50 and reduce operating hours for restaurants, bars and pubs in the areas that are under enhanced status from tomorrow until November 27. It comes after Alberta reports a record 860 cases. (The Globe and Mail) COVID-19 pandemic in British Columbia British Columbia reports a record 1,130 new cases in the last two days. This number includes 536 on Wednesday and 594 on Thursday. In addition, there are a record 155 people that have been hospitalized because of the virus. (Global News) COVID-19 pandemic in Ontario Ontario reports a record 1,575 new cases in the last 24 hours, raising its seven-day average to 1,299 cases and the cumulative cases in the province to 89,784. (CBC) Nationwide, 4,981 new cases are reported in Canada in the last 24 hours, a new single-day record. (CTV News) COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in India COVID-19 pandemic in Delhi Delhi reports a record 8,593 new cases in the last 24 hours, taking the total number of confirmed cases in the capital to 459,975. (The Hindu) COVID-19 pandemic in Iran Human rights lawyer Nasrin Sotoudeh has tested positive, only days after being released from prison. (Radio Free Europe) Iran surpasses 40,000 total COVID-19 deaths after 457 new fatalities are reported in the last 24 hours. (Al Jazeera) COVID-19 pandemic in Japan The number of new confirmed cases in Japan surges to a record high of 1,651 cases in the last 24 hours as Economy Minister Yasutoshi Nishimura warned of more stringent measures if the number of cases continues to rise. (The Straits Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Pakistan Pakistan reports 1,808 new infections in the last 24 hours, the highest since July 30, raising its nationwide total to 349,992 cases, according to data from the National Command and Operation Centre. (The Nation) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Ukraine Ukraine surpasses 500,000 total COVID-19 cases after a record 11,057 new cases are reported in the last 24 hours. (Kyiv Post) President Volodymyr Zelensky is hospitalized after he contracted COVID-19 earlier this week. (Daily Sabah) COVID-19 pandemic in Croatia Croatia reports 3,082 new cases over the past 24 hours, a new single-day record, raising the total number of cases to 75,922. (Total Croatia News) COVID-19 pandemic in Greece Greece reports 3,316 new cases and 50 deaths over the past 24 hours, a new single-day record for both cases and deaths since the pandemic began, taking the nationwide totals to 66,637 cases and 959 deaths. (The National Herald) COVID-19 pandemic in Italy Italy reports 636 new deaths, the highest single-day total since April 6, which brings the nationwide death toll to 43,559. (ANSA) COVID-19 pandemic in Russia Russia reports a record 439 new fatalities in the past 24 hours, raising the nationwide death toll to 32,032. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom The United Kingdom reports 33,470 new cases, a new single-day record since the pandemic began, taking the nationwide total to 1.29 million cases. (Sky News) COVID-19 pandemic in Oceania COVID-19 pandemic in the Marshall Islands President David Kabua states that the Marshall Islands are COVID-free again after the US Army workman who had tested positive is no longer contagious. Initially, two US Armed Forces personnel had tested positive for the virus and have both recovered. (RNZ) COVID-19 pandemic in New Zealand COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins asks New Zealanders who work in the Auckland CBD to stay home if possible from tomorrow after a new case was found in the city. (The Guardian) COVID-19 pandemic in Morocco Morocco reports 6,195 new cases, a new single-day record since the beginning of the pandemic, taking the nationwide total to 276,821 cases. (Morocco World News) COVID-19 pandemic on cruise ships In a first cruise since March, five passengers aboard the SeaDream I cruise ship have tested positive for COVID-19. (CNN) Law and crime Legality of cannabis Cannabis in Israel Justice Minister Avi Nissenkorn announces that Israel will begin a nine-month process to legalise and regulate recreational use of cannabis. (The Jerusalem Post) Belgium expels five far-right Danish activists associated with Rasmus Paludan, ahead of a planned Quran burning event in Molenbeek-Saint-Jean, Brussels. The area has a large Muslim community and it was feared that the Quran burning could spark civil unrest. Asylum Secretary Sammy Mahdi said the group is a "serious threat to public order". (BBC News) Politics and elections 2020 Belizean general election The People's United Party wins Belize's latest general election, ending the United Democratic Party's rule after 12 years. Johnny Briceño will be sworn in as the next Prime Minister of Belize. (BBC News)

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(Posted) 2020 Belizean general election

Article: 2020 Belizean general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The People's United Party wins the general elections in Belize for the first time since 2003. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters, BBC, Bloomberg
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Joofjoof (talk · give credit)
• Created by Number 57 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Migs005 (talk · give credit) and Presidentknoll (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: The new prime minister's article (John Briceno) needs some citations, unless the tagged parts can be considered WP:PUFFERY. Joofjoof (talk) 01:30, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

• Comment Generally okayish but need to expand the lead and the reactions sections can do with some trimming (flags et all). Gotitbro (talk) 06:04, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose for now please provide updates of the sort requested by Gotitbro, including a proper prose summary of the results in both the lead and the body. Then this will be good to go.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:43, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
  • OK, I have edited the lead and the results sections, and shortened the quotes in the reactions. Joofjoof (talk) 00:29, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support. This seems adequate now if not stale? —Brigade Piron (talk) 18:12, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Posted  — Amakuru (talk) 23:59, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Gernot Roll

Article: Gernot Roll (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): SZ
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Grimes2 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: German cinematographer for film and TV, many awards, - article expanded, and there could be more. The list of films is MUCH longer in German. Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:23, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support - Good enough. No missing refs.--SirEdimon ^Dimmi!!! 06:05, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose The filmography needs to be expanded (see the dewiki article), is too short for the works done and the awards received. The bio also needs more prose in relation to his work. Gotitbro (talk) 06:08, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

  Gotitbro, please dont' tell me "see the dewiki article" when I said "MUCH longer in German". Can you please add from there? Because I have other projects with a deadline, - sad pun, sorry, I just can't pick when people die. When they die, I interrupt and do what I can, but no more. Anybody? Perhaps someone more familiar with film than I am? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:00, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Sorry it was not clear from your statement what you meant. And my comment here was for everyone who sees the nom and wants to improve it not you (the nominator) specifically. I am not much familiar with German cinema (or sourcing it) so someone more attuned should take a go at it. Gotitbro (talk) 08:08, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Understand better, but fail to see what in "there could be more. The list of films is MUCH longer in German" could be unclear, - language edification always welcome. I'll go over my watchlist, do what I have to urgently, and THEN see if I can help, but I have found the clock of ITN ticking fast, and people not appearing because I nominated too late, so stopped waiting until the article is in shape. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:24, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

I added those films - a minority - that have an article in English. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:22, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support - this looks good enough for me. RD doesn't require anything more than "Start" class for quality, as long as there are no major omissions or other concerns such as balance/neutrality. It's over the 1500 bytes of prose threshold, so it's not a stub, and I don't think there are massive details missing from his career, as we see for some subjects. The German article's filmography is far too long, so I don't see that as an objection either.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:39, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support per Amakuru, it's not a stub and is well sourced JW 1961 Talk 20:28, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support well sourced and the filmography is large enough. KittenKlub (talk) 20:51, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
• Weak oppose Prose coverage of career is essentially a prose version of a filmography; insufficient depth of coverage. Spencer^T•C 22:22, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

  Kindly tell me what you expect on what sources? - I looked at the obits again: they basically say that he filmed a broad range of genres, from farce to high literature. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:45, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

  I also found "Gernot Roll denkt in großen Bildern, große Worte mag er nicht." - ... thinks in big pictures, does not like big words. - Bedtime. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:51, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

  last - small - word: meet the person --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:58, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

  Waking up: what I see is that if he was a director, all papers would be full of substantial obituaries, but now he was primarily "only" a cinematographer. We - Wikipedia - could do a little bit to fight that unfairness. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:54, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

•  Posted Filmography issues resolved. General consensus to post.—Bagumba (talk) 14:54, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Waqar Ahmed Seth

Article: Waqar Ahmed Seth (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Pakistani judge, I've done some work to improve referencing - Dumelow (talk) 08:32, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 15:57, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support Good enough.--SirEdimon ^Dimmi!!! 06:06, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support- looks good, marked ready. Depressed Desi (talk) 08:12, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
• Posted  — Amakuru (talk) 11:46, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Albert Quixall

Article: Albert Quixall (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Scottish Sun
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: English footballer, I've expanded and improved the article a bit - Dumelow (talk) 08:11, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support A bit short but looks fine. Gotitbro (talk) 08:52, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support Looks ok for RD JW 1961 Talk 11:34, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 15:57, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment. I've requested some sources. Probably just my football ignorance but there's also an apparent discrepancy between the text and infobox on the end of his career; the infobox claims he played subsequently for two minor teams. Espresso Addict (talk) 23:43, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Espresso Addict. I've sourced the 1954 oldest survivor fact (which was added by another editor), though in a somewhat roundabout way, and added a source that mentions his non-league spell at the end of his career - Dumelow (talk) 07:55, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, Dumelow. I trawled through the list of 1954 players and they all do indeed seem to have predeceased Quixall. Espresso Addict (talk) 08:22, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

• Posted. Espresso Addict (talk) 08:22, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

(Closed) Ongoing: Peruvian protests

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Article: 2020 Peruvian protests (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post, CNN, BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by NoonIcarus (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: I hope this isn't too soon. Nominating given its coverage and given that there are currently few items in the ongoing section, and it's a good candidate once Vizcarra's impeachment/Merino's inauguration news gets stale. NoonIcarus (talk) 23:42, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

• Wait until the Peru impeachment blurb goes off, support in principle. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 00:28, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Question: is there a minimum length of time for an ongoing event? Joofjoof (talk) 00:52, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
    • No minimum or maximum. Stephen 02:12, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose "hundreds" gathering here and there is a non-event. We easily get that many red hats at a QAnon rally. When it's substantial, and "continually updated" then we can discuss. --LaserLegs (talk) 01:16, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose At this point, the protests seem relatively limited in scope. Willing to reconsider if further events develop. Spencer^T•C 04:18, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
• Wait to see if something really happens.--SirEdimon ^Dimmi!!! 04:31, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
• Suggest add to blurb instead There were thousands protesting in Lima Thurs night.[10] Perhaps add the protests to the blub as "Manuel Merino becomes President of Peru amid protests after Martín Vizcarra (pictured) is impeached and removed from office." The picture and bolding can be moved to the new president as well.—Bagumba (talk) 04:41, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support In terms of the size of the protest you're comparing a country of 330 million to a country of 33 million. And it does seem to be significant because the enormous pressure of the protests seem to be effecting the new government. Yesterday over half of the Presidential Cabinet resigned and I would not be surprised to see the de facto President finally break sometime in these next few days. DoctorSpeed ✉️ ✨

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(Closed) RD: Asif Basra

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Article: Asif Basra (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Destroyeraa (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Bollywood actor, sadly died young at 53. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 22:53, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

• Weak oppose. Clearly notable, but the article is more or less a list of roles he's been in at the moment. Would happily be pinged if/when it's expanded to have a bit more than that. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 06:28, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Nothing on Early/Personal life (some of which is in the infobox), career needs a lot of expansion, most of the filmography is unsourced. Gotitbro (talk) 08:50, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
• @Gotitbro: Added early life. English news coverage of him is rather scant. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 14:42, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

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(Removed) Remove Polish protests from ongoing

Article: October–November 2020 Polish protests (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Brandmeister (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Last update is from 9 November and the news coverage has also faded, suggesting their end, at least for now. Brandmeister^talk 16:51, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support No significant updates about the protests in the news or the article. Gotitbro (talk) 17:15, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support removal stale, poor quality article also should never have been posted. --LaserLegs (talk) 01:13, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support removal - Lack of updates on developments suggests a removal is correct. Jusdafax (talk) 03:10, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
• Removed. Spencer^T•C 04:08, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) Jerry Rawlings

Article: Jerry Rawlings (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Former President of Ghana Jerry Rawlings dies at the age of 73. (Post)
News source(s): Graphic, The Cable
Credits:

• Nominated by Ammarpad (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former president of Ghana – Ammarpad (talk) 12:42, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support Well sourced and of good length. Gex4pls (talk) 15:18, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support blurb Articles looks good. One of the most significant leaders in Ghana and in the African Union, should definitely be considered for a blurb. Gotitbro (talk) 16:23, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support RD satisfactory article for RD JW 1961 Talk 22:51, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 22:53, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment I'm opposed to a blurb like most death blurbs but we've posted many former heads of whatever so IMO Rawlings qualifies --LaserLegs (talk) 01:17, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment Support Blurb. People who follow African history will know Rawlings as one of the towering figures when it comes to significance, who was president and dictator for many years, before ushering in democracy and eventually seeing his chosen successor defeated. Domestically, and probably regionally, he was a more important figure than George H. W. Bush, a four-year US president whom we blurbed without hesitation. But globally, US presidents will always trump Ghanaian presidents in the pecking order, so this probably doesn't tell us much. A closer comparison would be Daniel arap Moi, who fills a similar role in Kenya. He died earlier this year, and although I posted him initially, consensus was eventually for no blurb. So, in summary, my personal opinion is that we should blurb, but when considering precedent and comparison with other figures, it's most likely an RD only.  — Amakuru (talk) 08:06, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

I would've supported Arap as well, but that doesn't mean this should be overlooked. Gotitbro (talk) 08:56, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Fair enough. Count me as a "support blurb" then. There's no doubt that he was a very prominent figure, and over a lengthy period of time, so let's go for it.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:42, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

• Support blurb. I don't think comparisons are particularly helpful and Wikipedia is not a common law country. We already have a generally agreed standard (itself not binding) at WP:ITNRD as "transformative world leaders in their field" and should work from this. Rawlings was unquestionably a "world leader" (Ghana, at the time, was certainly among the most politically significant state in post-independence Africa) and played a major role. I think a blurb could be more than justified. —Brigade Piron (talk) 09:04, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support blurb Major player in Ghanaian and regional politics. Article quality is solid and fleshed out to the point that his importance is clear. Spencer^T•C 18:20, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
• Comment I think we might be approaching consensus for a blurb here. Maybe someone can assess.  — Amakuru (talk) 07:55, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
•  Posted Moved from RD to blurb.—Bagumba (talk) 17:26, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
• Pull - He wasn't a world transformative figure and died of old age. Depressed Desi (talk) 08:22, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

By what measure? Please see the discussion above. Gotitbro (talk) 12:37, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• Keep blurb - Funny enough, I was just recently reading about Jerry Rawlings and doing some research into his dictatorship in the 1980s. He was a significant figure in Ghana, and went on to become a major player in the African continent. I believe he is notable enough for his own blurb. Kurtis ^(talk) 08:50, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• Keep. Rawlings was a huge figure at the time in Africa (particularly West Africa), and had a huge impact on politics in the region. - 109.249.185.63 (talk) 13:47, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

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