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::::::::*I wasn't sure, but I've removed it. I've struck the hook and moved the pic to make it easier for preppers now we've made a bit of a mess! [[User:Smartse|SmartSE]] ([[User talk:Smartse|talk]]) 17:32, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::::*I wasn't sure, but I've removed it. I've struck the hook and moved the pic to make it easier for preppers now we've made a bit of a mess! [[User:Smartse|SmartSE]] ([[User talk:Smartse|talk]]) 17:32, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::*I predict many front-page clicks for this image and hook-- great job! [[user:Sharktopus|<font face="Arial" color="black">''Sharktopus''</font>]][[user talk: Sharktopus|<font color="black"><sup>talk</sup></font>]] 17:40, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::*I predict many front-page clicks for this image and hook-- great job! [[user:Sharktopus|<font face="Arial" color="black">''Sharktopus''</font>]][[user talk: Sharktopus|<font color="black"><sup>talk</sup></font>]] 17:40, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::*Should we link [[penis|penises]]?


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Articles created/expanded on January 2

Jo Tong Sop

Created by Spongie555 (talk). Self nom at , 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Not sure the hook is catchy enough, but I can't come up with anything better myself. Perhaps something about the alleged public shaming might work? Rwxrwxrwx (talk) 14:23, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
DYK Koji Gyotoku has the same hook but different team and it was accepted. Spongie555 (talk) 00:25, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • This article includes a lot of padding to get it to 1500 characters, so maybe try to find some more information about this person. And Rwxrwxrwx is right that the hook isn't very impressive. Just because a subpar hook was accepted in the past doesn't mean it always has to be. - PM800 (talk) 14:49, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Due to North Korea's secretive nature there is limited sources on him and most is about him coaching and nothing about his personal life. Also yes the hook isn't impressive but I can't think of another so I'm open to any other hooks. Spongie555 (talk) 21:16, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • There's a problem in that the article contradicts itself on that point: He was also part of North Korea's football team, on return home from the FIFA World Cup 2010 in South Africa when they were shamed in a six-hour public inquisition in Kim Il-Sung Square after the team's coach, Kim Jong-Hun, had been accused of "betraying" the nation's leader's heir apparent, Kim Jong Un, following their failure at the World Cup, according to reports. Later it was proven false that they were shamed and the team was busy practicing for the Asian Games. (Emphasis added.) It should be noted that the source for the second sentence doesn't rule out the possibility that Jo Tong Sop and the team were indeed subjected to a six-hour public shaming, but afterwards then allowed to return to their normal football schedule. Either way, this article should avoid having a self-contradiction on this point. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:16, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There's less than 1500 characters of prose there. My count gives 1384 characters. Rwxrwxrwx (talk) 11:20, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I fixed it. Spongie555 (talk) 03:31, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry Spongie, you need to make a bit more effort here. You keep asking us to do reviews when there are clearly some significant issues outstanding each time. This time, we still don't have a reasonable hook to consider. Can you give us the text of the hook you are proposing, and clear up any other issues so the reviewers don't have to do the work of the nominator. Thanks. Rwxrwxrwx (talk) 12:51, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Here is the alt:

... that Jo Tong Sop was shamed in a six-hour public inquisition when his football team failed to win the World Cup? Spongie555 (talk) 03:07, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • OK, how about this:
Hook: ... that it was widely but wrongly reported that Jo Tong Sop was subjected to a 6-hour public shaming when his North Korean football team failed to do well in the 2010 World Cup?
The DYK criteria seem to be met:
New: yes
Length: ~1700 characters, substantial
Hook: interesting, mentioned and cited
Neutral/policy: well-sourced
Rwxrwxrwx (talk) 17:05, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This is much better but for most of us its not clear what Aarhus Gymnastikforening is. I propose a small tweak.... *...that Jo Tong Sop was a member of the North Korean team that that won the 1986 King's Cup against Denmark's oldest sports club?Thelmadatter (talk) 22:08, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That one is better to use. If anyone wants to review the nomination. Spongie555 (talk) 04:01, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 3

Jenny Lind Tower

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 07:31, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The length and references check out (I'm assuming they stand up to whatever notability criteria we have for places/buildings, which I'm not familiar with - there's also Google Books), but the hook is a bit convoluted. It could, instead, be about the performance...? Roscelese (talkcontribs) 07:46, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I can't find the word riot or something close to it in the refs ... maybe I missed it. All I read about was her singing to people who failed to get tickets. Victuallers (talk) 21:53, 10 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, there is no word "riot" in the references. The best hook would probably read, " that opera singer Jenny Lind is rumored to have climbed a tower later named after her and sung to the crowd below when they were unable to attend her concert?" Besides, the second hook makes it seem as though the tower was located in North Truro when she climbed it. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 19:06, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Close paraphrasing.
Article: "Edward Snow embellished the myth by saying, "There are those who like to believe", that one of the Aldrich family group was captivated by Jenny Lind's voice, which influenced him to move the tower to his newly bought land in Truro."
Source: "Edward Rowe Snow embellished the myth. “There are those who like to believe,” [he said,] that one of the Aldrich family group was captivated by Jenny Lind’s voice and that this influenced him to move the tower to his land in Truro."

Article: "Snow went on to undercut his speculations though by stating that Aldrich's son, Samuel N. Aldrich, later told him that Lind's performance in no way motivated the elder Aldrich to move the tower to his land."
Source: "Snow undercut his speculations, however, by stating that Aldrich’s son, Samuel Nelson Aldrich, told him that Jenny Lind’s performance in no way motivated his father to move the tower."
Unreliable source. The article has two sources. One is reliable; the other is not. Cunard (talk) 09:56, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
All the issues are addressed. It is ready to go. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 23:04, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
http://www.capecodtravel.com/towns/truro/jlind0998.shtml is not a reliable source. See the "About Us" page: "Founded in 1996, eCape, Inc. wants all Cape Cod businesses to profit by using the power of the Internet. We build business websites and sell advertising on our portal websites". I still see close paraphrasing issues. For example, "Her fans crashed the gates, and she had to cut short her performance" is copied verbatim from the source. Cunard (talk) 10:51, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If it matters so much, could you please fix it instead of spending the time just mentioning it? I'm correcting the issues addressed above but please don't give vague responses as it doesn't help anyone since the writer will always have a bias and is more likely to skip over a mistake than a reviewer. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 02:05, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Copyright violations (the verbatim text) and the close paraphrasing of the sources certainly matter. They effect the integrity of Wikipedia. When I review articles at DYK, I fix any minor issues. When there are major issues such as copyright violations and close paraphrasing, the creator should fix them himself. Your edit here merely rearranged the positioning of the text and did not address the close paraphrasing issues. Please read Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing and reread the article to address any remaining close paraphrasing in the article, such as the following:

Article: "one of the Aldrich family group was captivated by Jenny Lind's voice, which influenced him to move the tower to his newly bought land in Truro."
Source: "one of the Aldrich family group was captivated by Jenny Lind’s voice and that this influenced him to move the tower to his land in Truro." Cunard (talk) 09:43, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
More than three weeks after nomination and copyright issues still persist? And the author is unwilling or unable to address them? It's time to tag that article and move on. - Dravecky (talk) 19:04, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am, I just have classes every day. That being said, I will go over it now and address the issues, but correct me if I miss one as that might be possible. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 05:08, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I corrected the issues that I noticed. Again, if anything sticks out, please post it here. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 15:52, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 10

Wilmer Tanner

A man with a tiger

Created/expanded by TCO (talk), Fuhghettaboutit (talk), Kaldari (talk), Sonia (talk), PM800 (talk), Goodvac (talk), and CharlieEchoTango (talk). Self-nom at 04:48, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. hook changed. will fix article also. TCO (talk) 05:09, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed in article.TCO (talk) 05:14, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
He might have named more than one in one publication, though. Ucucha 05:16, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You are good! (Sorry, I am coming off so bad.) I'm actually working towards compiling all of them, but it's hard (snakes are...snakey and we are talking 130 publications. My impression is that it's actually north of 15 total. But I'm trying to nail down some ambiguities with snake naming. Can we go with "at least". I just won't know the exact number for a while. (I could go with some other hook if you want to, but I thought the species thing was more compelling than the BYU museum thing, for a general audience.) TCO (talk) 05:20, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The other thing that is wicked COOL is that the guy is over 100 and still alive. He even had a publication a couple years ago. I was blown away he was still alive when researching some stuff he did in the 30s and semi-serious about contacting him if we go to Chihuahua to follow up on a discovery. And total segue, but the other expedition to this remote part of Mexico (only two in last 100 years) has a surviving 100 year old herpetologist! But if you want to put the age in somehow...it's an idea.)
But if we went with a museum oriented hook, then the pic would still work fine. TCO (talk) 05:33, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Adding "at least" would be fine with me. Ucucha 12:46, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hook fixed. Will update article as well. TCO (talk) 15:56, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Article fixed too.TCO (talk) 20:46, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 11

Fernald Hall

Created by Simtropolitan (talk). Nominated by Ktr101 (talk) at 17:33, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The article is new enough and long enough, but I have two concerns. First, the rules state that the hook fact "must have an inline citation right after it since the fact is an extraordinary claim", but this article has no citations in the paragraph with the hook fact. Second, I am a bit uneasy about the Main Page linking to an article which is entirely sourced to the university's own website. Are there any reliable sources available that are more independent of the subject? Brian the Editor (talk) 21:00, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I sourced the hook, but I don't think that there are any non-university sites that would cover it. I can tell you though that when I have talked to the archivists, I have been once told that I could literally copy and paste information from their wiki over to this one, although I haven't done so because it was never relicensed. There is really no reason though for a third party source to actually be covering this information though so I don't know what else to say there. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 21:19, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, there are several problems with the article and the hook. There's no citation support for the hook, the article includes inline external links (an inappropriate practice) that point to pages that probably should be treated as references, the article has bare references, and there's a "Trivia" section that appears to be original research. It's likely that the article will need to be sourced primarily to UMass sources, but some independent sourcing would be nice. Regarding UMass sources, I found one not cited in the article that is demonstrably wrong -- it names the wrong "Fernald" as the building's namesake and gives incorrect dates for the man's life. Based on the content of the cited sources, there appear to be some nice opportunities for expansion of the article, in addition to doing cleanup and adding more sources. --Orlady (talk) 21:19, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've added a reference to a nice article from the Boston Globe, removed the improper embedded external links, and done a touch of clean-up on this article. However, it still uses bare URLs for most of its references and (other than the one I just added) lacks third-party reliable sources, independent of the subject. - Dravecky (talk) 06:29, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I changed those URLs to templates and tweaked the writing here and there (it was in dire need of it). I looked for some more sources but couldn't find anything useful. The article in its current state is not bad, but I personally don't think it should go on the front page. Sorry. Drmies (talk) 01:05, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks guys. I meant to convert the links on Tuesday but I somehow distracted myself and forgot. I guess whatever the final reviewer wants to say we can do, but I just figured that it would be a "thanks" to the editor who created this. Again, thanks for everything. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 06:26, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hallsteinn Sigurðsson

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 15:45, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Bohemic acid below.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:48, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I replaced 's with {{`s}} per rule C7. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 18:21, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I can confirm that the article was an unreferenced BLP with essentially bugger all text as of 7 January 2011; that Dr Blofeld has expanded it on 11 January 2011 to (by my reckoning) 1815 characters, excluding the headings, lists, references, etc; that the hook is properly sourced (the second time it is mentioned in the article, no need for a reference in the lead), and that the source checks out. Moreover the prose is good and the subject is interesting. Some phrases do closely reflect the reference [1], for which an unrelated earlier version of the article was blanked due to copyright concerns; but (with the possible exception of the phrase "progressively lighter and more transparent" which should probably be either attributed as a direct quote or else appropriately paraphrased), the similar material appears to be essentially functional and factual, rather than expressive; and therefore permissible.
Fönsun XVI - 2004
Fönsun XVI - 2004
My worst concern is that the link seems a little bit 'ho-hum'. What really wowed me about this article was the art itself, in particular the image of Fönsun XVI - 2004 (right). I believe the hook would be much stronger if it read "... twenty five of Hallsteinn Sigurðsson's sculptures (pictured) ..." with an image of this work -- even though, as far as I know, this particular work is not one of the twenty five in the sculpture park, nevertheless in my view it would be appropriate simply as a representative sculpture by Sigurðsson.
One final thing that in my view would need to be clarifed is the copyright status of the pictures under Icelandic law potentially as derivative works of the sculpture, and therefore potentially touched by Sigurðsson's copyright in the sculpture, even though the photographer has granted a free licence to their copyright in the taking of the photograph. Regardless of whether or not the picture was included on the main page, this would need to be clarified, as we could not have the main page linking to a page with a potential rights problem. I hope this can be resolved, as I think the image is great, and I would very much like to see both it and the article featured in DYK. Jheald (talk) 15:48, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In regards to this appearing as a DYK a]I've reworded any phrases which appeared too close for comfort to the source you identified. b] The image is highly unlikely going to appear on the main page anyway. given that this is hardly lead DYK material. It should be good to go.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:14, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll give way to more experienced hands at DYK on this; but, as I said above, if there's a potential rights issue, it's not just a question of what appears on the main page - we shouldn't link to such an article from the main page. That's why I'm hoping you can sort this out, because there is no question but that those images add immeasurably to the page, so it would be good to keep them if we possibly can. Jheald (talk) 23:13, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Back to the hook, I think that the exhibition of his works in the tunnels and vaults of the hydroelectric station at Laxá could make a more interesting hook. This exhibit is mentioned in the lead paragraph, but it is not explained. Information is here. --Orlady (talk) 15:33, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 13

Petatlán

  • ... that Petatlán is home to a ecological movement led by local peasant farmers?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 03:29, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Its not particularly interesting or unusual. Can you think of an alt hook?♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:07, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You sure about that? When I think of an movement or organization related to ecology, I think Greenpeace, not rural Mexican farmers.Thelmadatter (talk) 14:26, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that the mountains of Petatlán, Guerrero, Mexico are home to a local environmental group, some members of which have been imprisoned and defended by groups such as Amnesty International?Thelmadatter (talk) 14:22, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A better hook may be:
ALT2 ... that when Boise Cascade Corp. overcut lumber in Petatlán, Guerrero, Mexico, ecological protesters were imprisoned in an action decried by Amnesty International and Greenpeace?Georgejdorner (talk) 18:24, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm going to respectfully disagree with all y'all. I think the first hook is fine, if a geographical designation is added ("Petatlan, Mexico"). Actually, I think it's pretty cool. But I am not qualified to verify the sources--a Spanish speaker should do that, and the references for the hook are off-line. The article needs cleaning up (there's a rogue 'inegi' in there, which must have meant something), and so do the references: those translations need to be incorporated properly or be left out. Sorry, I wish I could do more to help the article or its nomination. Drmies (talk) 02:47, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 15

Club Oasis

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 00:22, 16 January 2011 (UTC) Reviewed: December 2010 Gascoyne River flood[reply]

  • Length and dates are fine but the hook fact as stated with both very weakly sourced (the tvguide.com text merely states "In the summer of 1958, `Club Oasis,' which ran as a biweekly series, became home to the zany antics of bandleader Spike Jones.") and not wholly accurate. There's a much firmer source in cited-elsewhere Brooks & Marsh ("During the summer of 1958 Spike Jones became the permanent star of the show and the title was changed to Club Oasis Starring Spike Jones.") that not only properly notes Jones' role in the show but also documents a title change for the series that it not currently reflected in the article. A few tweaks to the article and it will be ready. - Dravecky (talk) 17:14, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also, I'm not thrilled with some of the sourcing for this article, including the "Guitars 101" message forum. Worse, you apparently didn't read past the first message or you would have seen that the episode described is not from Club Oasis but rather from a much later episode of Startime. There is an accurate description of the Club Oasis episode later in the thread. This too, needs to be fixed. - Dravecky (talk) 17:22, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Correctons made Billy Hathorn (talk) 17:32, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The hook fact is not as it appears in the article, which merely says that the show was "most closely associated toward the end of its short run with the bandleader"--which in and of itself is not wholly accurate. The show aired for a full year and the show was renamed for Jones for the last 8 of its 24 episodes. Also, I replaced the unacceptable citation to a tripod.com site with a second cite from tv.com. This is very close now but the hook needs better crafting to match the facts of the article - Dravecky (talk) 18:31, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 16

Rudolf Elmer

  • ... that Swiss whistleblower Rudolf Elmer claims that passing secret account details to WikiLeaks is the only hope he has to let "society know what's going on" in the banking sector?

Created by Malick78 (talk). Self nom at 23:18, 21 January 2011 (ECT)

  • I'll tweak the language a bit... only a bit is translated, however, the banner at the top was put there to encourage translation. As for notability, 10,000 hits in 6 days suggests notability. Furthermore, WikiLeaks has yet to release the material he supplied... so there'll be more coverage and more to add in a week or two. Malick78 (talk) 18:19, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • There's still language issues, though they are minor by now. But the BLP1E thing remains an issue, for me as well. There's random facts floating around, like that 2005 arrest, which is verified in The Guardian but is not further explained, and the events of his biography aren't even really clear to me. Then, the references are not clean--a few bare URLs, and the rest done inconsistently. And then there is the history: Malick created this as a stub, but there's almost a dozen editors who worked on the article to bring it up to its current length. Drmies (talk) 03:03, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Themistokli Gërmenji

Created by Antidiskriminator (talk). Self nom at 23:04, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think that it is better to nominate more interesting hook than to reword the existing one. Please review alternative hook below.
Antid. you haven't even added the correct deathplace. Larry please let me rewrite this with an interesting hook.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 13:32, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Place of death corrected.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 13:47, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Now reduce the Republic of Korçë parts since most aren't related to him, add ref name parameters and remove the activist of the Albanian National Awakening from the article, because the largest part of his activities took place after 1912.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 14:11, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The quote from the referenced source says: hotel soon became the centre for patriotic Albanians. Here they planned the Congress of Monastir, and here they planned the four annual upprisings 1909, 1910, 1911 and 1912. All those events are the crucial parts of the Albanian National Awakening. Any further comment about the quality of the article should be written on the article talk page and marked with the appropiate tags that would prevent positive reviewing of the article until it is resolved. Otherwise someone may think that purpose of the comments is not reviewing of the hook nominated for DYK. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 14:26, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ZjarriRrethues, are you going to suggest an alternative hook? Cordless Larry (talk) 23:50, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tiffany Chapel

Created by Ekem (talk). Self nom at 21:56, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Hugh Oldham
Perfect. Good to go. Ruby2010 talk 18:43, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Noah's Ark (1956 TV series)

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:16, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed L'Enfant Plaza Hotel
First time I've heard that tv.com is unreliable. It has been used for many television articles on Wikipedia. Billy Hathorn (talk) 16:31, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've never heard that tv.com is unreliable, either. But it seems that anyone who registers on that site can edit it. Have any articles on DYK used this site as a reference before? Which ones? - PM800 (talk) 00:44, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Revised: ... that the 1956-1957 Jack Webb television series Noah's Ark features Paul Burke in the role of Noah McCann, a veterinarian? Billy Hathorn (talk) 16:37, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fishery Protection Squadron

British trawler Coventry City passes Icelandic Coast Guard Patrol vessel Albert off the Westfjords in 1958 during the first Cod War.

5x expanded by Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk). Self nom at 01:29, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • If I may be so bold as to offer several suggestions to help improve the overall physical layout of the article: the table in the first section of the body would best go on the right side since, for the moment, the text seems to be hemmed in between it and the infobox on the right. Further, two quotations in the section have been separated from the rest of the body the article and place in box quotations. The typical rule is that we use a box quotation if a sentence goes over four lines, which in these two cases it doesn't. I see no harm in simply in integrating both into the text. Otherwise, the article itself looks pretty good and the content itself is quite amusing. Also, all the names of the warships must be italicized. Nice job. --Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 02:25, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm still in the process of writing the article, and I got my hands on a few newspaper articles from the 1800s regarding the 'treaty shore'. I'll add them later today, as I need to find out what the treaty shore was. That should expand the 1800s section, which will then mean I can move the table over to the right without it conflicting with the infobox. I've now integrated the text to the rest of the article. However, it'll take me a bit longer to get all the ship names italicised. I think I've got them all, but need to double-check. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 12:35, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Florida v. Thomas

Created by Lord Roem (talk). Self nom at 02:42, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Wyatt Luther Nugent
  • Date, length and hook ref checks out. However, oral argument should be added into the article so that the hook sentence works out. Also, all of the sources are original documents, could other third-party sources be added? (such as coverage in news media?) --Soman (talk) 12:12, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oral argument added and cite included for it. I am afraid there are no media reports that I can find, considering the decision was a few pages and was just dismissing a case. -- Lord Roem (talk) 17:30, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hook is very dull, as it's basically "court hears argument then dismisses the case". It's hardly unknown for the USSC to decide a case unanimously. It's hardly unknown for it to take a while to make a decision, despite the suggestion of "just months" to the contrary. Looking at the article, and the nominator's comments above, this is a case that struggles to show any sort of notability - no third-party coverage, no inherent importance, just a jurisdictional decision that the case wasn't one that the USSC would decide as matters were still ongoing in the state courts. BencherliteTalk 08:02, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Dull hooks are no reason to reject. - The Bushranger One ping only 08:24, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
But it's good reason to ask for an alternate (less boring) hook. BTW, what happened to Mr Thomas afterwards? --PFHLai (talk)
Proposed alternate: "... that the United States Supreme Court held that a state court decision is not "final" if a trial has not concluded in a verdict in Florida v. Thomas?" - Lord Roem (talk) 19:48, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Except, if I read the decision in Florida v Thomas correctly, it doesn't actually decide any new point of law, which is what your hook implies, it just applied settled law. The report says that it was Fort Wayne Books, Inc. v. Indiana that decided that "finality generally 'is defined by a judgment of conviction and the imposition of a sentence'", and concludes that the facts didn't fall into any of the exceptions identified in Cox Broadcasting Corp. v. Cohn that would allow the USSC to intervene at this stage. Have you looked for any academic/practitioner commentary on the decision, in journals or otherwise? That would help to show that the decision is notable and perhaps also give you material for a hook. BencherliteTalk 10:11, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 17

Quantum dot solar cell

Quantum dot "tandem" solar cell built at the University of Toronto. It appears to be a small brown-red square with sixteen small metal disks arrange in the middle.

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 17:35, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the confusing History on this one, it looks like an old article but is actually spawned from another topic that I'll be re-creating. Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:35, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewed Weston-super
Hold on. No OTRS for the image yet. Sourcing is actually not brilliant because this is an active research area, where picking up primary sources is risky - reviews and books would be better. The hook and some parts of the article elaborating it make no sense to me. "any energy above and beyond the bandgap energy is lost" is only half correct. Bulk solar cells materials sensitive to infrared are no news, and quantum dots don't help here. You possible want to say that QDs allow to tune the bandgap in a wide range for one and the same material, but this is not elaborated anywhere. The article gives no any spectral numbers or explains why, say PbS QDs are better than bulk PbS. In summary - great yet unfinished effort, with much work still needed. Materialscientist (talk) 05:57, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(undent) You note above that "the hook... make no sense", but none of the points on the talk page or here elaborate on that point. Can you be specific about what you think it not kosher in the hook so we can fix it? Maury Markowitz (talk) 12:11, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can't "greatly" improve efficiency which is already some 42% (there is a limit); "carefully" is weasel, for "tuning into the infrared" see below. This is all quickfixable; the problem is the article needs rewriting before it can be DYK featured. Materialscientist (talk) 12:17, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The hook doesn't talk about any of the things you mention -- "bandgap", "bulk material", etc. Is there something you feel needs to be changed for the DKY? Maury Markowitz (talk) 11:58, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
See talk page of the article. All mechanisms of the article are about taking low-gap material and make it efficiently absorb high energies, thus tuning into the visible, not vice versa (can't tune QD bandgap toward lower energies). Materialscientist (talk) 12:04, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pacific Center for Human Growth

View of the front of the Pacific Center for Human Growth, a white three storey building with steps up to the front door beneath a small portico carrying the name of the Center

Created by Thisbites (talk). Self nom at 02:19, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length checks out. Creation date was actually January 18, not January 17, so that's fine too, but the nomination should be moved. Article looks good but there is no reference for the bit about Will Roscoe and the United Way or the paragraph about Oakland-East Bay Gay Men's Chorus. Also the hook fact is referenced just to the organization's own website (and it would be nice to say more about the Oakland incident, like when it happened if you don't want to include the victim's name). It would be desirable to have a better reference for this fact, especially since it's the hook. Also, note 2's content seems to be exaggerated in the text. I see one anti-gay slur and one swastika mentioned there, not multiple anti-gay graffiti plus the specific word plus multiple swastikas. Perhaps there is another source you were also using? If not, the paragraph needs to match what the source says.Yngvadottir (talk) 18:44, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Joanne Lunn

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 16:52, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Monday now, I was travelling. 1) We can drop the Sunday part now, it doesn't make sense any more. The cantata for the Fourth Sunday is already nominated, #Anna Reynolds (singer). 2) the occasion is part of the cantata, not of the singer, and is in the List of Bach cantatas by liturgical function, abbreviated Epiphany III there, also in most external links for the cantata and - of course - in the book by Alfred Dürr on which the List of Bach cantatas is based. One external link for the cantata is [2], I didn't use it because it is not as clear as the other about this being a recording before the Bach Cantata Pilgrimage. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tuesday now, summary of the above:
ALT1:... that English soprano Joanne Lunn recorded Bach cantatas with the Monteverdi Choir, such as Herr, wie du willt, so schicks mit mir, BWV 73?

Juniperus Capital

  • ... that Bermuda hedge fund Juniperus Capital was named after the Juniperus bermudiana (example pictured), Bermudian cedar trees that are extremely hardy in the face of adverse conditions?

new article self nom by --Epeefleche (talk) 04:17, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 18

Andreu Mas-Colell

Created by David Eppstein (talk). Nominated by Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) at 00:45, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed DYK nomination for the "World-system". Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 01:15, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Competitive market redirects to perfect competition (instead of general equilibrium theory as in the hook), so is "general equilibrium" a necessary component of "perfect competition"? I do not have a professional economic background, and the different links and vague texts in the articles do not help to clarify this. Or more to the point of the hook: Mas-Colell proved general equilibrium by using a variety of mathematics, did he study a competitive market? Furthermore, the rule states "The hook fact must have an inline citation right after it since the fact is an extraordinary claim; citing the hook fact at the end of the paragraph is not acceptable." This is not done at the moment. Jappalang (talk) 01:36, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I dropped the popular label, "competitive market", so solving the problem. Thanks! Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 08:23, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Spherical tokamak

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 15:40, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Both the hook and the article looking good. Jhenderson 777 15:30, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

reviewed article below.

Gaunt biplane no.2

  • ... that in 1911, John Gaunt's second biplane nearly crashed because a bystander bent the aircraft's elevator before a flight?
  • Comment: non-self-nom

Created by TSRL (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 02:55, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is a better name for this "Gaunt Baby"? Maury Markowitz (talk) 18:41, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]


2011 Magallanes protests

Stylized flag of Magallanes Region, against the increase of the gase prices.

Created by Diego Grez (talk). Self nom at 01:12, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Let's wait a few days before putting this on MainPage. If the protests flare up again, this may end up on ITN. I don't think it's a good idea to put the same article on MainPage twice within only a few days. A delay may give us a chance for a more interesting hook, too. --PFHLai (talk) 22:53, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The protests have ended AFAIK. Diego Grez (talk) 17:30, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Earnest Elmo Calkins

R&G Corset ad from the rear cover of the October, 1898 issue of Ladies' Home Journal

5x expanded by Btphelps (talk). Self nom at 08:39, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Somebody typoed? It is Earnest Elmo Calkins. betsythedevine (talk) 19:44, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 19

Persian miniature

5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 03:29, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good work on the expansion but I had to put in a few "citation needed" tags at the end of some paragraphs. The facts being asserted really need them.Thelmadatter (talk) 22:19, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Actually they are illustrated by the images just next to them & are not controversial. But I will try to find sources that state the totally obvious. Johnbod (talk) 02:59, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done, with great difficulty in some cases (1 sentence removed for now). You try referencing "European old master paintings on canvas are typically rectangular, and displayed in wood frames that are often elaborate and gilded." Johnbod (talk) 15:13, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

József Éles

Created by Oceanh (talk), Thehoboclown (talk). Self nom at 01:18, 24 January 2011 (UTC) Reviewed: 3.5-Inch Forward Firing Aircraft Rocket Oceanh (talk) 17:49, 24 January 2011 (UTC) [reply]

O holder Tag, erwünschte Zeit, BWV 210, O angenehme Melodei, BWV 210a

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 12:41, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can't see the hook fact refed in O holder Tag, erwünschte Zeit, BWV 210 though it is in the other. Also can't check lengths today (on notebook). Otherwise ok. Johnbod (talk) 03:36, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • ref now duplicated to the other cantata.

both ok including length. Johnbod (talk) 16:31, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Heitz Wine Cellars‎

5x expanded by Murgh (talk). Self nom at 22:13, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Vought XSB3U [3]

Ruby Buckton


5x expanded by Raintheone (talk). Self nom at 22:45, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2011 Spokane bombing attempt

Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Self nom at 17:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed Bridge No. L-5573. Stonemason89 (talk) 17:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Verified length, date, and online sources.--Bkwillwm (talk) 20:06, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 20

Walter Baetke

  • ALT1:... that Walter Baetke worked in secondary education, including twelve years as a headmaster, before beginning his university career in religion and being hired as a full professor after one year?

Created by Yngvadottir (talk). Self nom at 16:35, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Mann

  • ... that Henry Mann's 1949 book, Analysis and design of experiments, filled mathematical gaps in the statistical writings of Ronald A. Fisher?

Created by Giftlite (talk). Nominated by Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) at 01:47, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed There Are More Things. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 20:48, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alternative hook suggestion:
Replaced 's with {{`s}} per rule C7. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 11:37, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Updated , striking out "most" (unsourced and unsourceable), and linking nonparametric statistics. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 19:35, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Date and length, and the source for the originally proposed hook, checked. However, the article is still badly sourced — every paragraph should have at least one inline citation (I don't care whether as a footnote or Harvard style) and currently most have none. In particular, the Cole Prize hook, which I prefer, is unsourced, as is the claim that the U test is what he's most known for. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:40, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
SOURCING: Each claim in the article is referenced, mainly by reference to Olson's brief biography. I used the on-line version of this at OSU, so I don't give page references (which are hardly needed imho, given the brevity of the source).
HOOKS: Mann's book was very important in the theory of experimental design. Ronald A. Fisher is regarded as the theorist of experimental design, which in conventional unscholarly "history" rose as the "sunshine" spread on the day of the dawning appointment of Fisher at Rothamsted Experimental Station. The gap between Fisher's hortatory and Mann's mathematics makes the first hook widely interesting to statisticians and experimenters. (The cited review by Johnston is noted in Atkinson & Bailey's review of 100 years of experimental design in Biometrika, which discusses its importance for allowing the theory to advance.)
In contrast, anybody who knows about the Cole Prize knows about Mann, I would suppose, so the marginal benefit of the second hook is negligible. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 19:32, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The sourcing looks good now. I made a few minor edits to the article but I think they were small enough not to disqualify me from approving this. I do still think the alternative hook (with the edit removing the word "most") is best, because it says something surprising and interesting about him (he made important contributions in two different fields) rather than something boring (he filled some gaps in the work of some other random academic). —David Eppstein (talk) 23:15, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
David, when some undergraduate at the U. Chicago found an error in Newton's Principia, it was front page news in the NYT.
Fisher is not just "some other academic", but is arguably the greatest statistician of the 20th century (and the greatest flawed human/statistician as well). Just take a look at the WP articles on Ronald A. Fisher, and on his Design of Experiments and on his Statistical Methods for Research Workers. The lead on Fisher quotes the high-priest Nelder (or was it Hald's slim book that Fisher almost single handedly created mathematical statistics, or modern statistics. Like Zeus giving birth to Minerva, Fisher is even more credited with the miraculous birth of experimental design. The Mann fact is highly interesting to statisticians! (That said, maybe the first hook can be rephrased to more more interesting.)
Certainly, the 2nd hook is worth considering. However, statisticians typically make contributions to many fields: Mann's article mentions Hotelling and Wald, who are among the greatest mathematical economists of all time, and also Fisher, who is one of the founders of statistical genetics (with great contributions to population genetics, like something about blood types?).
That all may be, but (unlike Newton) I think the average Wikipedia front page reader is not likely to recognize Fisher's name. And unless one does recognize it, your hook makes it sound like "some random academic fills gaps in the work of some other random academic", which doesn't distinguish the subject of the hook from any other academic anywhere in any subject. —David Eppstein (talk) 01:48, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
IMHO, mathematical/statistical DYK articles have had 1800 hits, apart from the linked articles on Folkman which had about 6000. Thus, the target audience is not the "average" reader, but something like 1/500(0? or 00?) readers.
The statistical fact about Mann improving Fisher is in conflict with traditional history, which makes it interesting and would motivate statisticians to read the article. David, I'd bet that this DYK fact would be discussed in 20 coffee-rooms in statistics departments around the world, and that it will generate some discussion.
It's healthy for some disagreement to emerge between us, at some point, I suppose. ;) Mann's test and Mann's theorem were proved by a guy named Mann; You find this surprising?!? ;) If Mann's test was proved by a woman, that would be surprising. ;)
Wishful thinking: As an administrator, can you get WP to test the two versions for 6 hours, like they did with Jimbo's "A personal appeal from the founder of Wikipedia"?
Cheers, Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 02:18, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As a complete non-mathmetician, I found the first hook, er, slightly less boring. Are there not more people who have heard of Fisher than of the Cole Prize? Johnbod (talk) 16:45, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Can there be higher praise? Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 17:18, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Johann Heinrich Zedler

Grosses Universal-Lexicon

5x expanded by Aymatth2 (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 18:24, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewed: Günther von Reibnitz
  • (scratches head) As the editor who did the expansion, I must say this is an excellent, comprehensive, well-sourced and interesting article, and should maybe be a featured article. It is in fact a translation of a featured article from the :de wikipedia. Don't think it counts as new, although I am not quite sure what the rules are. Aymatth2 (talk) 19:52, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't matter a sausage if it was translated, you've credited German wikipedia in the talk page. The article is well sourced and comprehensive so there are no problems.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:39, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Current consensus is that translations are allowed on DYK, but they need to be properly referenced and wikilinked, which often takes quite some time (many wikis are poor on sourcing even at FA level). Materialscientist (talk) 10:50, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In this case, I don't think there is any problem. The German wiki is quite rigorous, in some ways more structured than the English one, and the sourcing looks excellent. The subject is far from controversial. I think the article is well wikilinked. I dropped a note to Meta:User:Frank Schulenburg, the main contributor, asking for a review of my crude translation, and he has offered to check it. If it goes through, I think he gets the credit. Aymatth2 (talk) 04:15, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Virginia–Maryland Regional College of Veterinary Medicine

5x expanded by Racepacket (talk). Self nom at 15:16, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Go Big or Go Home

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 08:13, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Glischrochilus

A black beetle with orange spots on its abdomen

Created by Obsidian Soul (talk). Nominated by Smartse (talk) at 01:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The beer attraction is single-sourced to website "Dr. Bug" and though the nickname "Beer bug" is in the lead, their attraction to beer is not directly mentioned there but in a list embedded in the article. More direct phrasing related to the hook by a slight re-wording of the lead, direct explanation in the article body and preferably one other authoritative source would make this a credible DYK. I note, however, that many insects are known to be attracted to beer, so the hook might be better phrased as "... that picnic beetles are commonly known as beer bugs due to their attraction to beer?". Otherwise the DYK criteria are met. (talk) 14:33, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Crap, I should have checked the sources before... Looking at it in the cold light of day, neither refs 7 or 8 are reliable and I can't find anything better unfortunately. I'll drop the author a note to see if they can find anything more reliable, but unfortunately it looks as if this might need to be withdrawn. Thanks for the review anyway. SmartSE (talk) 15:11, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bridge No. L-5573

View of Clinton Falls Bridge, a steel truss bridge, with a plate carrying the builders name and the date on a cross piece

Created by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 19:31, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Booth v. Churner. --Bobak (talk) 19:33, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good. Stonemason89 (talk) 16:59, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Stad Ship Tunnel

  • ... that the Stad Ship Tunnel would allow ships along the Norwegian coast to bypass Stad, one of the most dangerous sections of the coast?

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 08:22, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • It violates this guideline: "The hook should refer to established facts that are not likely to change, and should be relevant for more than just novelty or newness." This hook is not an established fact because the tunnel might be built, or it might not be. - PM800 (talk) 22:25, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Projects that are not yet built have been run on DYK before. The guidelines are just that - guidelines - not hard-and-fast rules. The hook and article meet all DYK standards. The "established fact that is not likely to change" that, if built, the tunnel would allow ships to bypass the peninsula - whether the tunnel is built or not does not affect that fact either way. If the tunnel is not built, there won't be a magical change in reality that would prevent ships from using a tunnel to use the bypass if one was; that fact remains constant regardless of the result of the particular project. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:32, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • If the tunnel is built, then the current wording would no longer make sense, but whatever. I was just asking a question. And the hook does violate the DYK guidelines, even though Arsenikk claimed that it doesn't. - PM800 (talk) 00:23, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest "if built according to current/proposed plans..." --PFHLai (talk) 01:55, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rizal Day

A stone pylon with two gold stars at the sides, below of which are inscribed "A Jose Rizal".

Created/expanded by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 05:42, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I don't see why. On the other hand, in the case only a para has a ref, it is impossible to trust anything but the last sentence. Consider what will happen when somebody adds more content to the middle, or moves the current one around. I don't think an article with any unreferenced sentence can become a FA, and GA and DYKs require them for most sentences those days, too. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 07:07, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • You see, that only works if each sentence has a different reference than the previous one (such as FAs and some GAs). If I'd be reusing those two references on every sentence, it's repetitive and unsightly. Where's the DYK rule that every sentence has to be cited? The only relevant rule is rule D2 and it doesn't mention citing every sentence, especially if the entire paragraph is referenced on that/those reference/s.–HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 07:30, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Brent Knoll Camp

Undulating ridge of grassy land

Created by Rodw (talk). Self nom at 15:46, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 21

Boltonia decurrens

Claspingleaf doll's daisy (Boltonia decurrens) is adapted to flooding conditions.

Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 05:24, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Sweetwater Dam

Postcard of Sweetwater Dam, 1907

  • ... that the Sweetwater Dam (pictured) near San Diego, when first constructed in 1888, was the tallest masonry arch dam in the United States?

Created by Shannon1 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 04:29, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]



Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum

The bell from the wreck of the SS Edmund Fitzgerald is on display at the Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum

  • ... that the bell from the wreck of SS Edmund Fitzgerald (pictured) is on display at the Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum

5x expanded by Wpwatchdog (talk). Self nom at 21:52, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

St Tyfrydog's Church, Llandyfrydog

A standing stone in a field

Created by Bencherlite (talk). Self nom at 07:42, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Karuna Ratna Tuladhar

Created by Karrattul (talk). Nominated by Physics is all gnomes (talk) at 14:42, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Was moved to mainspace on January 21. I'm open to suggestions for an improved hook, Tuladhar had an interesting life.--Physics is all gnomes (talk) 14:42, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Chrysoperla carnea

Green lacewing larva

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self nom at 18:35, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Nice article. Length and date OK; hook fact referenced and verified, and quite interesting; picture is under a suitable licence on Commons. I made some minor changes to the hook (changed 'and' to 'but'). BabelStone (talk) 19:58, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I was going to put this in a lead spot but I have some concerns about close paraphrasing in the article:

...depend on the pest population and the climatic conditions. For control of moderate aphid infestations in home gardens, five to ten lacewing eggs per plant may be sufficient.

— from the article

vs.

...depends on the pest population and climatic conditions. For control of moderate aphid infestations in home gardens, 5-10 lacewing eggs per plant or 1,000 eggs per 200 square feet are recommended.

— from the source

That's just a little too close for comfort, IMO. I'll ask the nominator to take a closer look. 28bytes (talk) 17:20, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have had a look at what you said about close paraphrasing in the article and maybe I have stuck too closely to the wording of the source. In this case it was not part of the article that much interested me but I was including the information for the sake of completeness. I must admit that I thought changing the wording around was sufficient to prevent copyright violation.
I will try to be more careful in future. What would you like me to do about the article? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:12, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Replied on my talk page. I'll follow up here once I've had a chance to more fully vet the article. Thanks, 28bytes (talk) 19:23, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A Star Is Born (2012 film)

Beyonce Knowles in silver sequined dress with hair flying in the air

upper torso of Clint Eastwood in a suit an tie

  • ... that the 2012 version of A Star Is Born will be the fourth remake of the film?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 15:34, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Length verified (just). Hook verified. Could do with a little more expansion but probably not much about the film in this earlier stage...♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:50, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Church of SS Peter and Paul, Istanbul

Created by Kebeta (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 13:49, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed:Mikulovská wineDr. Blofeld 13:53, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Now 1525 by my count, and with the address. Johnbod (talk) 17:22, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Can you please check now? Kebeta (talk) 09:24, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
A sentence added, so certainly over now, not that 3 characters was worth arguing over. Johnbod (talk) 15:10, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Repertoire of contention

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 03:17, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Olov Janse

Mikulovská wine

  • Comment: Ref in History section (FN#3) Bloom.

Created by Janeverston (talk). Nominated by Agne27 (talk) at 07:41, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Off-line book source accepted in good faith.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:52, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Costa Grande of Guerrero

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 21:42, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewed Winnington Hall

Winnington Hall

5x expanded by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 20:19, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gone (Nelly song)

Created by Lil-unique1 (talk). Self nom at 19:35, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note, it is very important that the article history of this song is not confused. The page was created by me on January 3, 2011 as a redirect by me. It was histomerged on January 21, 2011 by User:AnemoneProjectors, as seen here and here at my request. Thus edits taking place between January 5 and January 21 took place in my sandbox. I was not sure whether to nominate as 5× expansion or a newly created article. Either way the expansion from redirect (17kb) to current state (12, 147kb) is vast. I hope that clears things up a little. If not leave me a note on my talk page. -- Lil_niquℇ 1 [talk] 19:35, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Since Nelly says it isn't a sequel, wouldn't that be a better hook? Something like:
ALT1: ... that although its working title was "DL Part 2", Nelly claims his 2011 duet with Kelly Rowland, "Gone", is not a sequel to their 2002 duet "Dilemma"?
Length and date are OK. Is "AOL Radio Blog" a reliable source? 28bytes (talk) 22:28, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
AOL Radio Blog is the accompanying website to the AOL online radio station. It is considered reliable (its used at GA and FA level). Agree with ALT1. -- Lil_niquℇ 1 [talk] 23:42, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the quick reply. In that case, ALT1 is good to go. If my math is right you don't have over 5 DYKs yet, so no review required this time around. 28bytes (talk) 23:54, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This is my third DYK so far. I keep a good log of my achievements. Thank you... -- Lil_niquℇ 1 [talk] 23:57, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

World-system

  • ... that throughout history, there have been periods where multiple world-systems coexisted with one another?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 19:23, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed George Durning. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:23, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Somewhat weak on the sourcing (some of the text is not cited, and there are no page numbers for citation #3), but information is solid enough that I'm willing to let this go. No problem with the sources, and the date and length and hook are all good. Nyttend (talk) 05:13, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Your submission of World-system at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!

The article is poorly written, and suffers from the problem of some articles on comic books and novels, it is written from the perspective of characters in the source–in this case, from the perspective of the American Sociological Association's section on world systems (if it still exists). The hook should be revived to something like
  • ALT1 ... that sociologist Immanuel Wallerstein has revised his original theory of "the" "world system" and has written that some epochs have had several "world-systems"?
This raises less of a concern about Wikipedia policy (regardingfringe theories). Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 01:03, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I respectfully disagree. It is my understanding that IW is the major authority on the subject, and if he hasn't coined the term world-system, he has created the most widely discussed definition. Further, the world-system section of ASA is a major section, and its theories are hardly fringe. I also don't think your hook is neutral (epochs?). That said, I have no stake in this, and I would be fine with revising the hook to attribute the claim in a neutral fashion, so:
If you would like to expand the article, you are more then welcome to do so. I will again note that I am familiar with people disagreeing with Wallenstein's definition of the w-s, but I am not familiar with him disagreeing with any previous w-s theories. But I am more than happy to learn. PS. The article on world-system theory, which has been pretty stable for a while, fails to mention any other usages of the term world-system (mind you, I am aware that the w-s theory developed from other theories, as described in that article). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 05:42, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The currently preferred wording (ALT2) seems like a true, declarative sentence. I shall look to whether it is sourced. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 21:20, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The hook is sourced, at the end of the article, in a section with an un-inviting title. Please add the sourced hook to the lead.
(What repels me about "The world-system" is the trade-marking of words, and ponderous theorizing. What can be said was said earlier and clearly by Eric Wolf (e.g. 1958 on closed corporate communities in SWJA), and what shouldn't have been said, was said later and badly by Gunder Frank and Wallerstein, imho.)
I added a note on IW to the lead, it already mentioned the rest of the hook. AFAIK the lead does not have to contain cites, provided that per WP:LEAD it only summarizes (referenced) information in the article proper. I hope that solves this issue. Thanks for the comments, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 00:45, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sexy Cora

  • ... that German pornographic actress Sexy Cora was hospitalized in 2009 after trying to break the world record for the number of fellatios performed in one day?
  • ALT 2: that German pornographic actress Sexy Cora died in January 2011 after suffering a heart attack during a breast enlargement surgery at a plastic surgery clinic in Hamburg?

--BabbaQ (talk) 18:57, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, farmers might complain enmasse because of the competition from a lot of cocks..♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:55, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1295 by mine. :/  狐 FOX  14:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I find that hard to believe, as Wehwalt says size,sources and history checks up.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:42, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Healthy persons must feel revulsion. Those DYKs are ghoulish and irresponsible. (DYK has balance policies about USA versus the rest of the world on English; surely this line of filth need not be crossed.) Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 01:27, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure that if this gets featured on the main page it will get a lot of "views" and "hits" and might even make it into the DYK hall of fame. But just stop and seriously think about whether ... this is what you want the "encyclopedia of all human knowledge to be". At the very very very least, just don't be stupid enough to make it a lead article. Volunteer Marek  01:36, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is not censored. We don't reject a hook because we think it's disgusting. Or did you miss the "Interactive Urinal" hook? And since there's no picture how could it be a lead article? And if Wikipedia is indeed the "encyclopedia of all human knowledge", well, this IS PART of "all human knowledge" whether we like it or not. I've taken the liberty of commenting out the "Symbol delete vote" to avoid confusion, because it was added here on WP:IDONTLIKEIT grounds. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:39, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CENSOR is not an excuse for your run of the mill dumb-assery. Nobody's proposing that this article be deleted - i.e. to spell it out for you, nobody's trying to censor anything. Just that it shouldn't go up on the main page in order to represent what Wikipedia's about. Or at the very least (which is what I said in my previous comment), that if it is included in the DYK feature it's not made the lede hook, like this one was Brittany CoxXx (lots of "views" but seriously...). Come on, step back and reflect here. A lot of these of the articles on notable women end up being about idiotic pop stars or some porn actress. And trying to get an article on a famous and notable woman scholar is a pain in the ass because that's "boring". See anything wrong here? Volunteer Marek  01:49, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think that we can live without this on the main page. Newyorkbrad (talk) 01:51, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I agree, "it's boring" is a lame excuse. And we need more knowledgable articles and less pop-culture ones. But WP:IDONTLIKEIT is still no reason to slap a 'DYKno' on an article, especially with such a hisitronic statement attached to it. I don't mind if the article doesn't make the main page, but that should be because it isn't DYK eligible, not because "it's disgusting". - The Bushranger One ping only 01:55, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am not proposing censoring the article, but of not putting it on the front page. Again, the argument is about balance, and WP has policies that respect balance and judgment, about e.g. the number of articles about the USA versus the rest of the world. WP does not have time to have rules against all manners of stupidity, but we can ask ourselves, at long last, whether we have any descency.
Do not censor my vote. You are welcome to maintain your comment against my vote, but you should not edit another editor's statements, to change their meaning. You should strive for consensus of the others that your DYK-proposals are not foul or ghoulish. I would of course respect that consensus. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 01:53, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Everybody calm down for a second. Obviously the first hook is not appropriate for the main page. I think we can all agree on that. Is it possible that something less titillating could be used instead? If this is going to be seriously considered, it should at least sound like it's coming from a serious encyclopedia and not 4chan. Personally, though, I think this theme has been overused on DYK, and I would be in favor of not running it at all. Kaldari (talk) 01:56, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually WP:IDONTLIKEIT is only NOT a reason to delete an article (which is not something being proposed anyway). WP:ITHINKFEATURINGTHISARTICLEONMAINPAGEISAHORRIBLEIDEA is a perfectly legitimate reason. DYK is supposed to feature the best of newly created articles. While this fulfills the "newly created" it does not fulfill the "best" part. What Kiefer said. In response to Kaldari, the only "legitimate" hook I could see here would be something about how her porn career led to her death, but the article as is is just not well developed enough for that - which is another argument for just dropping it off of DYK. Volunteer Marek  02:07, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This smacks of censorship. There's nothing wrong with the alt hook. Just because we may or may not condone certain things does not mean it should be hidden away. We're here to write an encyclopaedia, not to promote "descency" [sic], decide what "healthy people" may or may not feel, or accuse fellow editors of "dumb-assery". And who gets to decide whether or not pop stars are idiots? I call this censorship. Manxruler (talk) 03:36, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No actually it smacks of common sense. Censorship would involve a proposal to delete the article or something. This is just saying that neither the article nor the hook are good enough for the Wikipedia main page. Tolerating something (lack of censorship) is different than actively promoting a sub par low quality article that tries to be sensationalistic. Volunteer Marek  03:44, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And WP:CENSORED just says "Wikipedia may contain content that some readers consider objectionable or offensive" - there's nothing in it about promoting badly written articles with disturbing hooks onto the main page; that's a judgement call left up to DYK reviewers, and I, and some others here, are saying "no". If nothing else this is an abuse - or "gaming" - of a policy for purposes it was not indented for. Volunteer Marek  04:03, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
So who decides what is and is not disturbing? I don't feel offended by the alt hook, and the article's not worse written than countless other hooks that have passed. If we're going to start making some ill-defined (and certainly not universal) concept of decency a criteria for passing or failing DYK hooks, then that's one slippery slope. And, there is no common sense. Manxruler (talk) 04:21, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have to agree with Manxruler. That said, howeve,r the whole argument is moot, as the article is too short for DYK. - The Bushranger One ping only 04:23, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Err... so if Fellatio ever becomes a featured article, you'd want this on the main page? Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 11:59, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Go for the second hook i think, the first would surely create a hoohaa...♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:35, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would go for the first one. But that is just my opinion.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:04, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I dont know why anyone would feel sick about the first hook. I find it very funny actually and I think it would garner alot of views. People in general knows exactly was fellatio is and are not prudes.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:06, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I think this discussion could do with a bit more reason and a little less heat. A few things worth bearing in mind:

  • the consensus of editors here undoubtedly does have the authority and ability to reject a hook as inappropriate - the rules say so and there is ample precedent (the Jewish Lawyer nomination comes to mind as an example)
  • the article is presently too short but this is very easily fixed - the awards section could be changed from a list to prose and consequently lengthen the article to comfortably more than 1500 characters
  • a potential basis for an alternative hook is that her death has resulted in charges of negligent manslaughter for the doctors involved (cited to CNN) - hardly a common event - and according to the XBIZ source the surgery was for breast augmentation from F-cup to G-cup
  • I don't see any reason to disqualify the article, other articles with similar content have appeared on DYK, so the question becomes whether a suitable hook can be found that is sufficiently supported for a main page appearance - perhaps something like

EdChem (talk) 17:40, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I suggested deleting "to G-cup" and changing "porn star" to "pornographic actress"
... that after pornographic actress Sexy Cora died during surgery to enlarge her breasts, her surgeons were charged with negligent manslaughter?
This removes the reference to a commercial television show, and is shorter. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 17:51, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
FYI... I included the mention of German Big Brother because it shows she was notable for something other than porn, and because it may attract readers who would recognise her TV work but not her porn. I mentioned to G-cup simply because enlarging F- to G- cup to me seems an excessive surgery and may point to a reason for the charges - after all, F-cup breasts are not exactly small; of course, whether this is a useful addition to the hook is entirely subjective. As for 'porn star' v 'pornographic actress', the shorter version helps with hook length and also seems hookier to me, but again it is a matter of subjective choice.

Incidentally and for the record, I am opposed to this nomination until the length issues of the article are addressed. Once that has been fixed, I am opposed to the original hook but would find an alternative such as ALT3 (with or without suggested changes) acceptable, or ALT2 as a second choice. EdChem (talk) 19:08, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I still think that including this article as a DYK on the main page would be needlessly provocative. Newyorkbrad (talk) 15:18, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And I Support this for DYK at this present time. But if more appropriate the other alternative hooks.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:13, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The issue is not censorship, it is prose size (still just 1407 B) !!!! If the article is expanded, the DYK should appear on main page. --Redtigerxyz Talk 14:57, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Off Hours

Created by Jujutacular (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 04:40, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Everwild

  • ... that Everlost is the place between life and death that all children travel to when they die?

Created by Tyw7 (talk). Self nom at 04:20, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Presumably you wanted to link to Everlost (novel) but the hook here is a fictional fact so appears promotional rather than a DYK suitable fact and I also see that the article has not been created or expanded 5x within the past 10 days and so fails the basic criteria anyway. (talk) 13:30, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If it doesn't work I'll proceded to fluff up Everlost (novel) --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 15:00, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I found Everwild, but this is 1043 characters (172 words) of "readable prose size" which does not meet the DYK criteria. Again, this is a non-notable factoid rather than a fact and so not suitable for DYK, presumably the same problem would apply if you re-nominated on the same basis. The particular criteria for DYK states "If the subject is a work of fiction or a fictional character, the hook must involve the real world in some way." (talk) 15:07, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Are you not counting the list? Cause I count about 3k characters. Do you think Everlost (novel) would be more suitable if I fluff it up to 5x the length? --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 15:20, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
See Wikipedia:DYK#Selection_criteria, only the prose elements count so at least some of the list would have to become normal prose. As for Everlost (novel), it does not meet the expansion or creation date criteria. (talk) 16:17, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've expanded the article. --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 18:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Everwild now meets the size and creation criteria but the hook of the DYK is still a fictional factoid, unrelated to real life and so remains a problem. (talk) 18:22, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How's this?

  • ALT1: ... that the sequel of Everwild will be published in June 9, 2011?
a bit unintreasting though. --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 18:56, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say this one fails "The hook should refer to established facts that are not likely to change, and should be relevant for more than just novelty or newness" and probably fails "interesting to a wide audience" which are both part of WP:DYK. The date in 2011 is only based on what Amazon have put on their website, which seems like a weak source for the hook and such expected release dates often drift a bit. (talk) 23:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How's this? --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 02:29, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say this fails the DYK guideline about being tied to the real-world, as plot features are a weak hook based on this criteria unless this were the first such novel, particularly controversial or won an award for this plot feature, in which case it would begin to look more like a citable real-world tie-in. I would appreciate some opinions from other reviewers on this one as this is the third hook for this article and I have only recently started contributing with DYK reviews. (talk) 06:43, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What other hooks can you guys suggest? --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 19:33, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on January 22

Harold Jefferson Coolidge, Jr.

Created by Lupo (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 07:35, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Harewood Park

Created by Ghmyrtle (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 06:58, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jean Heiberg

  • ... that painter and later art professor Jean Heiberg designed the world's first hookless telephone, in 1932?

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 01:17, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1920–21 Southern Football League

Created by Number 57 (talk). Self nom at 16:42, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Dark Knight Rises

Created by Jhenderson777 (talk). Self nom at 15:19, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Marshall F. McComb

Created by Coolcaesar (talk), OCNative (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 11:25, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Luoyang Museum

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 03:54, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas-Morse MB-4

  • Comment: non-self-nom

Created by Nigel Ish (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 20:54, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Appointment with Adventure

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 16:02, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

: Reviewed Navarro River Redwoods State Park.

ROKS Choi Young (DDH-981), MV Samho Jewelry

The ROKS Choi Young at sea.

ROKS Choi Young (DDH-981) created by KimChee (talk), C628 (talk); MV Samho Jewelry expanded 5x by Shiplevelone (talk), KimChee (talk). Self nom at 06:57, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Contents of the United States diplomatic cables leak (Sri Lanka)

Created by Obi2canibe (talk). Self nom at 22:00, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Penny & The Quarters (Band)

Created by Deathbyediting (talk). Nominated by Verne Equinox (talk) at 02:10, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion and references as per comments. Thanks. Verne Equinox (talk) 03:47, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Camp Nelson National Cemetery

Camp Nelson National Cemetery, 2003

5x expanded by Boneyard90 (talk). Self nom at 22:24, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Catawba (grape)

Nicholas Longworth

5x expanded by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 19:35, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Everything looks good here (expansion, refs, fact cited in article). Please just format your dates to remove ordinals ("January 3" instead of "January 3rd"). Cheers. — KV5Talk00:34, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Dale Maple

Created by Clarityfiend (talk). Self nom at 06:31, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • * All facts bear inline citations. Hook is 201 characters, however. Here's an alternative hook (198 characters):
... that US Army Private Dale Maple attempted to help two German POWs escape to Mexico during World War II and was sentenced to hang as a result, though his sentence was commuted by President Roosevelt?


  • Hey, no fair counting the "?". Now that I think about it though, neither hook suggests Maple's importance in the escape, so how about:
"... that US Army Private Dale Maple was condemned to hang for freeing two German World War II prisoners of war and smuggling them into Mexico, though his sentence was commuted by President Roosevelt?" (195 with the ?) Clarityfiend (talk) 21:11, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Anna Reynolds (singer)

Boat leaning to the right in a storm on the Sea of Galilee with anxious people and Jesus sleeping

new by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 01:06, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

South Branch Kishwaukee River

South Branch Kishwaukee River

Created by IvoShandor (talk). Self nom at 00:52, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Replaced 's with {{`s}} per rule C7. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 01:50, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hålogaland Bridge, Symphony bridge

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 00:21, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Outside comments requested: The extra refs. aren't redundant, in my opinion. Anyway, the ref. sources seem okay, but I'm wondering where you got the term "Symphony bridge". All of the references are in Norwegian, so I can only do my best with Google Translate. But a Google search reveals nothing in English related to bridge architecture. Guoguo12--Talk--  14:32, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's in the original article cited in Note 2: "Med den store prisforskjellen (520 millioner kr) mellom Hengebru og Brusymfonien vil kun hengebru være med i det videre prosjekteringsarbeid." (boldface added on the key term) For the archived version, the wrong URL is there in Note 2 - it repeats the archived version of the ref. for Note 1. . . . The grammar in the hook doesn't quite work. I suggest:
ALT1 that for the Hålogaland Bridge in Norway, a symphony bridge design, which combines the structural components of a suspension, cable-stayed and cantilever bridge, was considered? Yngvadottir (talk) 19:51, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, like I said, I don't speak Norwegian, but I'm still not sure the name "symphony bridge" is definitively correct in English usage. "Bridge Symphony" is what Symphony bridge's second reference calls it. Guoguo12--Talk--  02:33, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I would have translated the Norwegian "bridge symphony" too, and a quick search found only that source in English, which does call it "bridge symphony". However, there is at least one piece of music by that title, and it's not really a symphony! At any rate, the "symphony" term is adequately referenced in relation to the Hålogaland Bridge although that archive URL needs switching - and that particular bridge is also mentioned in that English-language source. Yngvadottir (talk) 04:31, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It is standard to call bridge types "foo bridge"; it isn't called "bridge suspension" or "bridge arch", just check Category:Bridges for an overview. An alt name is mentioned in the lead in case there is confusion. Anyway, the issue is not important as far as I see, as it has also been called a hybrid bridge in at least one of the sources.As for caps, it is a type of bridge, thus a common noun and should use lower caps (just like "suspension bridge" is in lower-caps). I've fixed the archiving error, thanks for pointing that out. Arsenikk (talk) 21:28, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Approved. I didn't mean to point out any capitalization errors, by the way. Guoguo12--Talk--  22:52, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Death and funeral of Leonid Brezhnev

  • ... that because Leonid Brezhnev had more than 200 decorations, it was decided to break the Soviet custom of featuring only one decoration on cushions during his funeral?

Created by Twilight Chill (talk). Self nom at 22:42, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Dennis Day Show

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:59, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Graciela Chichilnisky Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:06, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hall XPTBH

A twin-engined, twim-float seaplane with a nose turret and "U.S. Navy" insignia flies over a city.

5x expanded by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 21:48, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Tara (Ramayana)

A monkey-couple, dressed in royal Indian clothes

  • ... that the monkey-queen Tara (pictured with her first husband) is described in the Hindu epic Ramayana to have set a habit to visit her second husband Sugriva drunk before indulging in sex?

5x expanded by Redtigerxyz (talk). Self nom at 18:24, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Colonel Joseph Barker House

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 17:37, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comments Reviewed the Miller typeface article. I count 2,728 characters for this article. Please note that the honorific "Colonel" is necessary: Barker's son (also named Joseph) has a notable house not far away, so using "Colonel" is a helpful method of disambiguation. Nyttend (talk) 17:37, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Length, substance, hook etc seem good to me. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:25, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gulet Mohamed

  • ... that Gulet Mohamed, a U.S. citizen who was detained in Kuwait, was blocked from flying home by the U.S. "no-fly list" until a federal court intervened to allow him to return?

Created by Racepacket (talk). Self nom at 15:54, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Miller (typeface)

Created by 97198 (talk). Self nom at 08:09, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Both hooks are good, and date, length, and sourcing is good. Article should have an image (a few letters in this font would be PD-text), but that's not a DYK requirement. Nyttend (talk) 17:57, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Created and added an image. 97198 (talk) 03:56, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pseudobiceros bedfordi

Created by Anna Frodesiak (talk). Self nom at 08:03, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Size and date checked. Most of used sources do not look like formally published works of schollars. The subject of the article is very interesting, and for us non-experts in that field can look suspicious. Is it possible to provide additional online verifyable sources that would be more formal and scholarly type?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 09:42, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Great hook! Was there any reason not to use File:Flatworm sex.png as the picture? Regarding sourcing, ref 9 confirms the hook fact and is a journal so in that respect the hook is fine. I noticed that figure 2 of that paper says that it can cause them to tear in two... should we make the hook involve this like:
  • ALT1 ... that when Pseudobiceros bedfordi (pictured) engages in penis fencing, it can lead to injuries that break them in half, but which they can survive?
  • (This reminds me that apophallation is waiting to be expanded...) SmartSE (talk) 18:43, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Here is link to discussion where one user says " I can't track any reference in that article to the specific information on Pseudobiceros bedfordi, and thus suspect it might be WP:OR." Although that discussion went into direction that suggest the main source is reliable, I propose to wait a couple of days to see if anyone else bring some arguments about non-reliability of the source.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:49, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I found a better ref that specifically refers to this species: Arnqvist, Göran; Rowe, Locke (2005), Sexual conflict, Princeton University Press, ISBN13: 978-0-691-12218-2, p. 185 and added it to the lead.
  • Yes, I agree that the Flatworm_sex.png image would be better. Can we swap it?
  • The ALT1 hook really tells more of a story, but might be a smidgen long. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:28, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Two flatworms stood up on their tails facing each other, about to penis fence

Walter Curtis House

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 05:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For the lack of any specific Greek Revival features here, see Talk:Walter Curtis House. Is "best" an appropriate neutral category?
ALT: ... that the board and batten-sided Walter Curtis House typifies the vernacular architecture of 1820s farmhouses in Appalachian Ohio? --Wetman (talk) 22:12, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Wetman's assertion is completely without basis: no source talks about board and batten architecture (it's a brick house!), and I've presented multiple sources that speak of it as a Greek Revival structure. NPOV isn't an issue here, anyway, since the hook doesn't say that it's one of the best: it says that the house has been called one of the best. Disagree as much as you like with the professional architectural historians, but the fact remains that professionals have called it one of the best Greek Revival houses in the area. Nyttend (talk) 07:36, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 23

MS Palatia (1928)

Created by Oceanh (talk), Manxruler (talk). Self nom at 04:38, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Peter Jeffrey (RAAF officer) Manxruler (talk) 04:38, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Falling (Blue Peter album)

Created by Echoedmyron (talk). Self nom at 23:32, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Control of Asbestos regulations 2006

Created by Notjamesbond (talk). Nominated by Racepacket (talk) at 22:52, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Renewable energy in Russia

Created by Slon02 (talk). Self nom at 04:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Second-growth redwood trees in Navarro River Redwoods State Park

  • ... that the first European settler in what is now Navarro River Redwoods State Park (pictured), Charles Fletcher, built an inn in 1865 that stayed open until the 1970s and still stands today?

5x expanded by David Eppstein (talk). Self nom at 04:29, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Both hooks check out. The first one could be rewritten, perhaps: ... that Charles Fletcher, the first European settler in the now Navarro River Redwoods State Park (pictured), built an inn in 1865 that remained open until the 1970s? Billy Hathorn (talk) 16:13, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Your rewording looks ok to me. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:27, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yecapixtla

San Juan Bautista monastery church

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 01:32, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion, review, image licencing confirmed. Offline source accepted in good faith. Perhaps the hook could be a little more specific about the "World Heritage Site" though, given that it's pictured? —WFC23:57, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT 1 ... that the small rural town of Yecapixtla, Morelos, Mexico is home to one of the Monasteries on the slopes of Popocatépetl (pictured), a World Heritage Site? ALT suggested by —WFC00:03, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pacific East Mall

Large green arched entrance to the Pacific East Mall

Created by Thisbites (talk). Self nom at 04:21, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Guerrero (ship), HMS Nimble (1826)

  • ... that the slave ship Guerrero wrecked on a reef in the Florida Keys and sank, drowning 41 of 561 captive Africans aboard, while being pursued by HMS Nimble, which also grounded on a nearby reef?

Created by Donald Albury (talk). Self nom at 00:39, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • ALT 1: ... that in 1827 the slave ship Guerrero wrecked on a reef, drowning 41 of 561 captive Africans aboard, while being pursued by HMS Nimble, which itself wrecked on a reef in 1834, drowning 70 of 570 recaptured Africans aboard?
  • ALT2: ... that in 1827 the slave ship Guerrero wrecked on a reef, drowning 41 African captives, while being pursued by HMS Nimble, which itself wrecked on a reef in 1834, drowning 70 Africans - under 200 characters
  • Reviewed 1:Virginia–Maryland Regional College of Veterinary Medicine - 20 January
  • Reviewed 2:Zerat - 21 January

Lycée Pierre Corneille (Rouen)

  • ... that Lycée Pierre Corneille was founded in Rouen in 1593 to educate the children of the aristocracy and bourgeoisie in accordance with the purest doctrinal principles of Roman Catholicism?
  • ALT1: ... that Lycée Pierre Corneille was founded in 1593 to educate children in accordance with the purest doctrinal principles of Roman Catholicism?

Created by Chienlit (talk). Self nom at 23:14, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Law of Vanuatu

Created by Aridd (talk). Self nom at 21:14, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ben Roberts-Smith

Created by Mattinbgn, Jherschel. Nominated by Amandajm at 20:57, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

  • Length and creation date verified. There are a few uncited paragraphs, and the rule of thumb for DYK is one citation per paragraph. Also, I can't locate where in the source it says that he is the most decorated service person; could you point that out for me? - PM800 (talk) 21:49, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed the problem re source of "most decorated etc". Amandajm (talk) 03:33, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The source does check out, and the plagiarism concerns seem to be addressed. There is one "citation needed" tag in the Personal life section. Also, most of the article is now quoted material. - PM800 (talk) 06:50, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There appears to me to be enough material outside the quotes to satisfy DYK criteria. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 08:43, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hingham Bay

Created by Sswonk (talk). Self nom at 21:03, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mario Moraga

Created by Diego Grez (talk). Self nom at 20:28, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Great White Wonder

Created by J04n (talk). Self nom at 19:34, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Britannia railway station

5x expanded by Redrose64 (talk). Self nom at 18:04, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

...but don't forget to review a DYK candidate. Chienlit (talk) 09:06, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes; the problem is finding one for which I have sufficient background knowledge to give a reasonable judgement. This is only my second nom (and the first as a solo effort). --Redrose64 (talk) 12:14, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Have found one to review. Hope I did it properly. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:43, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

St Andrew's Church, Willingale

A flint church with red tiled roofs and a white wooden spire

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 15:53, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Length, hook and date verified. Good to go. Nice work. It would have been good though if you could have done a double hook with an article on St. Christopher church as well!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:37, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I know, but I've enough to do with the redundant churches; no time for the active ones at present!! --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 22:51, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kim Merritt

Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self nom at 15:24, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length appropriateness of the hook and the article, date of article creation, sourcing, and arithmetic (to confirm age at time of both races) all confirmed. Though not necessary for inclusion in DYK, the article lacks any information on what has happened to her in the 27 years since she retired from racing. If you can find any updates, it would greatly improve the article. Cbl62 (talk) 18:29, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I completely agree. While the great majority of her contemporaries have had retrospectives or interviews in the last 15/20 years, strangely I can find absolutely nothing on Merritt. I didn't even find a single source which acknowledged that she won both the Boston and New York Marathons!
It may well be that she is averse to any media attention. The lack of sources is most probably the reason why she was the only New York women's winner left without an article – 7.5 years after the first was created and 2 years after the penultimate was created! Hers is a story waiting to be told. SFB 12:22, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Charlie Webb

--Created by Struway2 (talk). Nominated by BabbaQ (talk) 14:59, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'd planned on submitting a DYK for this once the missing/half-empty sections were nearer complete, but my refrigerator blowing up has rather put Wikipedia into the background. From what's in the article as we speak, I rather like:
ALT ... that Charlie Webb was appointed manager of English association football club Brighton & Hove Albion while awaiting repatriation from a prisoner-of-war camp in Mainz, Germany?
cheers, Struway2 (talk) 14:08, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gold business in Thrissur

--Created by Jpullokaran (talk) Nominated by BabbaQ (talk) 14:53, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Vulgata Sixtina, Sixto-Clementine Vulgate

--BabbaQ (talk) 14:47, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    • Thanks for the nomination, but perhaps it will better double DYK.
ALT1 ... that Sixtine Vulgate (1590), prepared by Pope Sixtus V, differs in 4900 variants from Sixto-Clementine Vulgate (1592), prepared by Pope Clement VIII?

Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 16:07, 23 January 2011 (UTC),--BabbaQ (talk) 22:40, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

White v Driver

  • that in the case of White v Driver, Sir John Nicholl ruled that the will of an insane person could be valid provided the testator was lucid when making the will?

Created by Rjm at sleepers (talk). Self nom at 13:58, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Italics added to the case name, here and at the article, per convention. Ready. BencherliteTalk 12:29, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Faces of Meth

  • ... that the Faces of Meth project shows before-and-after images documenting physical deterioration caused by meth use?

Created by Anna Frodesiak (talk). Self nom at 02:54, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

John Mohammed Butt

  • ... that in 1984 John Butt became the first, and only, Westerner to graduate from the noted Darul Uloom Deoband Islamic Madrasah since its foundation in 1866?

Created by Jpb1301 (talk). Self nom at 02:09, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Just past the size criterion (1668 B). "the first, and only, Westerner to graduate from the prestigious Darul Uloom Deoband" has a reference. "prestigious ... Islamic Madrasah in its 145 year history" is not stated. "in 1984" has no reference. Many paras including facts like dates - which require references, do not have them. --Redtigerxyz Talk 12:09, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The foundation date of Darul Uloom Deoband is given in the wikipedia article dealing with that subject. However I concede that there is no citation for that date in that source article. I have therefore amended the nominated article to include a citation for the foundation of Darul Uloom Deoband (even though Darul Uloom Deoband is NOT the subject of the nominated article). The other items referred by the reviewer as needing references are all covered by the three independent references already cited in this article - as would be clear to anyone who read them. I have not noticed in-line citations for every non-contentious statement made in other articles - however I have added them to this article to suit this particular reviewers preference. I have also changed the tag to read "since it was founded in 1866" instead of "in its 145 year history". Josephus (talk) 23:46, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lady Elliot Island Light

A lighthouse with a gallery and a lantern painted white with a red dome

Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 01:45, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Architectural plans for a lighthouse, showing section, elevation and floor plants

Looks good. Everything checks out fine from what I can see. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:25, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Asten

  • ALT1:... that Charles Asten, a member of the U.S. Navy during the American Civil War, received the Medal of Honor for completing his duties on the USS Signal despite being on the sick list?

Created by Guoguo12 (talk). Self nom at 03:21, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Most metal of honor winners do their great deed in full health. This guy shouldn't be fighting by did it anyway. Maybe I am biased... --Guerillero | My Talk 04:48, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

RAF Weston-super-Mare

Created by Rodw (talk). Self nom at 13:50, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For those of us not in the UK, perhaps the intro might mention this is "near Bristol, on the west coast..."? Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:44, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1... that RAF Weston-super-Mare in Somerset, South West England took over an earlier municipal airport?— Rod talk 20:09, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I like alt1 because it tells non UK folk where this is cheers --Guerillero | My Talk 04:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2:... that RAF Weston-super-Mare, located in South West England, was formed in 1940 when the Royal Air Force took over an existing municipal airport?
...this would be a much better read, I think... - The Bushranger One ping only 06:31, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2 is fine by me.— Rod talk 08:47, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Our Lady of Victory's Church (New York City)

5x expanded by User:James Russiello (talk). Self nom at 16:11, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The church on the corner of William and Pine Streets was built 1944-1946 to the Georgian Revival designs of the prominent architectural firm Eggers & Higgins, and dedicated in 1947.

.. that the New York City's Church of Our Lady of Victory is known as the "War Memorial Church" because it was founded 1944 by the Apostolic Vicar for the U.S. Armed Forces before Allied victory was assured.--James R (talk)

Jal Hans

  • ... that Jal Hans, India's first amphibious aircraft service, is part owned by Pawan Hans, India's largest helicopter services provider?
  • ALT1 ... that Jal Hans, India's first commercial seaplane service, is part owned by Pawan Hans, India's largest helicopter services provider?

Created by Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते (Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते). Self nom at 05:46, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Creation date and hook verified. However, the article has only 784 characters of prose and needs at least 1500. It may need a copy edit, too. Citations should be placed directly after the hook facts. Instead of the word "amphibious" in the hook, "seaplane" would be better because that's what the sources say. - PM800 (talk) 06:04, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 24

1947 Croydon Dakota accident

  • Comment: non-self-nom

Created by MilborneOne (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 02:01, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1957 Blackbushe Viking accident

  • Comment: non-self-nom

Created by MilborneOne (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 01:53, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kwango River

Tazua Falls on Cuango River in Angola

  • ... that diamond prospecting permits have been awarded covering an area of 2150 sqkm between Temboc and Kasonga Lunda over the Kwango River (pictured) stretch of about 185 km in Angola?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 13:29, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Date, length, hook verified. Nice work on this article. Parsecboy (talk) 16:27, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fred Gregory

Created by WFCforLife (talk). Self nom at 00:09, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

5x expanded by User:James Russiello (talk). Self nom at 16:22, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relevant article is not bolded; hook is 438 characters long, possibly a record! See the rules. Johnbod (talk) 17:15, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Saguaro boot

"Saguaro boot" with three openings. The cactus scar tissue has connected three different nesting holes.

  • ... that Saguaro boots (pictured) are the co-creation of a bird and a cactus?

Created/expanded by Sharktopus (talk). Self nom at 00:07, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Found a few more interesting things to add, including the desert caterpillar that co-creates objects in cacti that are and yet are not like a saguaro boot. Thanks so much for reviewing my article. Sharktopustalk 02:40, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Breeding Ground

Created by AirCombat (talk). Self nom at 23:11, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested more concise hook by third party (191 characters):
Sounds good to me! Thanks Fuhghettaboutit! AC (talk) 02:38, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:17, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wheeling Tunnel

Cars traveling into a tunnel

  • ... that over 13,000 square feet (1,200 m2) of German-made tile lines the interior of the Wheeling Tunnel?

Created by Admrboltz (talk). Self nom at 22:30, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]


St. Laurence and All Saints Church, Eastwood

St. Laurence and All Saints, Eastwood from Eastwoodbury Lane

Created by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk). Self nom at 21:34, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Added. Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 11:16, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In which case ALT2 is verified too. ALT1 is not that interesting IMHO. Mjroots (talk) 18:03, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 has two links that need to be disambiguated: Roman and Tudor Schwede66 21:29, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rizal's 1st legislative district special election, 1994

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 20:23, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pleurosternon

Created by Ryan shell (talk). Self nom at 19:30, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

good to go, but hook is rather boring. Probably can't make an engaging hook about... turtles. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 08:45, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Grochowiska

Created by Volunteer Marek (talk), Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 19:27, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

St John's Church, Duxford

A stone church seen from the south, with a central battlemented tower, the nave with a porch and red tiled roof to the left, and a smaller chancel with a flat copper roof to the right

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 17:35, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There Are More Things

Created by TomasBat (talk). Self nom at 17:20, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The paragraphs of the article provide a synopsis of the story, but they lack individual footnotes. Also, the cited sources seem to be all fan-sites devoted to H. P. Lovecraft, which may not meet the reliability concerns. Finally, the article should have more attention to non-Lovecraft aspects of the story, since the article is not named "Lovecraft and There Are More Things".
The article lacks a proper reference to the story itself. Use the chapter=(There are more things, or Hay más quesos???) option in the template and give page numbers. Please provide a citation to an English translation, especially if it was originally published in a journal with electric access. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 20:46, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(Otherwise, the article's prose style seems good, and the length is okay.) Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 20:41, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've fixed most of the stuff you pointed out. I specified the chapter, cited an English translation, cited a published book of literary analysis from the University of Texas (which I believe meets reliability concerns), and added a bit on criticism of the story. As for the article having "more attention to non-Lovecraft aspects of the story", I'm not very sure of what you expect — the story was written in memory of Lovecraft (Borges himself stated so), so the structure, style, and plot devices are very similar to Lovecraft's tales... In other words, there isn't much else to say... TomasBat 02:35, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well done. :) I was concerned that the sources were from Lovecraft fan cites, and I just wanted something from a Borges-centric source, and you made me happy. The article is even better written, now. (It is nice to cite the translator, but I suppose that The Book of Sand article does that.) Well done!
Now, how about the following hook:
It's short, direct, and punchy. (You might include a picture of Borges in your nomination, and put a picture of Borges in your article, ....) Would you check the story's punctuation: Didn't Borges quote the original Shakespearean phrase with quotation marks? Thanks! Best, Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 03:01, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The Spanish version of the story can be found online. The title is not in quotes, but it's in English. 'There are more things' (without the quotes) is the title of the Spanish version of the story. (See also the title of the Spanish wiki article at es:There are more things). The story is dedicated 'A la memoria de Howard P. Lovecraft.' There is heavy critical literature on Borges so further expansion (with references) should not be a problem. I do not find any online versions of the story in English, even behind a paywall. The opening sentence of our 'Plot' section might be clarified: the narrator himself is in Austin, Texas (not Argentina) when he receives the news that his uncle has died in the town of Lomas de Zamora in Argentina. In the intro of our article it states "Borges himself was quite skeptical about his tribute to Lovecraft (as expressed in the book's epilogue)" but we should not take that skepticism too seriously. I think Borges is just pulling our leg in his usual way. EdJohnston (talk) 07:32, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
GREAT! I prefer "memorial" to "tribute", because of the definite death of the former. There are all of these "Back Street Boys" tribute bands .... Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 17:35, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Now will you work on The Sect of the Thirty? (some need help getting it.) ;) Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 17:35, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I thought The Sect of the Phoenix was the one some people didn't get... But yeah, I would like to work on The Sect of the Thirty (I love the twist ending), but I'm not sure if there is enough literary analysis of it to use as references, though... Cheers! TomasBat 21:22, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hell (crater)

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 12:04, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Attached, and reviewed (ing) Nazarov cyclization reaction below. Materialscientist (talk) 12:40, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ALT ... that the lunar crater Hell is named after astronomer-priest Maximilian Hell?

  • I checked out the length using DrPda's Prosesize, before and after, it is an expansion from (textonly) 600B (104 words) to 3014B (526 words). And subjectively, you added a lot of good material and your formatting looks good. Good hook too, although I think the name "Maximilian Hell" is interesting enough to be included in it. But I will leave picking the right hook to somebody more experienced, this is just my first review of a DYK. betsythedevine (talk) 16:33, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Sorry, I think original is better than alt, though I am surely biased. Materialscientist (talk) 22:41, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The original hook is OK, though I can see the argument both ways. From the article on Maximilian Hell it's clear that he is more remembered as an astronomer than as a priest. It would not hurt to include a sentence about Hell's scientific work in the article on Hell (crater) so people have an inkling of why he would be important enough to recognize. EdJohnston (talk) 17:41, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hell has done some work on the Moon, but not on this crater or its area, thus his scientific work belongs to his article, IMO (I am mulling this though and might add as suggested). Yes, he was both priest and astronomer, and while we know him more as an astronomer, in his time, his society position was a Jesuit priest. Materialscientist (talk) 23:40, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

3.5-Inch Forward Firing Aircraft Rocket

Airmen of the U.S. Navy load small rockets under the wing of a bomber aircraft.

Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 06:34, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cognitive rehabilitation therapy

Created by Betsythedevine (talk). Self nom at 06:11, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nazarov cyclization reaction

  • Comment: I have less than 5 DYK credits

5x expanded by Mdlevin (talk). Self nom at 05:09, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length Ok. Just to check with you, wasn't doi:10.1021/ja973846k enantioselective? (I can't download it right now). Also the hook might be shortened to
  • I'm OK with the shortened hook. And I believe Furstner's synthesis was racemic; his macrocyclization uses a palladium catalyzed reaction of a racemic epoxide. No chiral ligands are used and there's no claim that they confirmed the absolute stereochemistry by any means. doi:10.1016/j.tet.2005.05.019 refers to Tius's synthesis as the first asymmetric synthesis; perhaps an additional citation in the article text would be helpful. M.Levin 14:15, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Its getting somewhat too complicated and I would rather pass and AGF. The abstract of doi:10.1021/ja973846k says "installs the isopropyl substituent in a stereoselective manner" about one of the steps, yet the article itself suggests the synthesis (or at least some parts) was not stereoselective. Still, they do claim first synthesis of roseophilin, do you think a comment is worth adding to the article on this? Materialscientist (talk) 02:07, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. I just added a reference to the review which claims that the Tius synthesis is the first asymmetric one, just to be safe. Thanks!M.Levin 02:27, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ok then, we can't discuss all primary claims. Materialscientist (talk) 23:43, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Funtime (Iggy Pop song)

Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 02:49, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed Hingham Bay [12]. 28bytes (talk) 03:01, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dave Downs

Created by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 00:37, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Catawba (grape). — KV5Talk00:37, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Space policy

Created by Antony-22 (talk). Self nom at 04:25, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and dates are fine but article uses only a single source and that is used just once to cite the opening paragraph as a whole. The hook fact must be directly cited, there should be a minimum of one citation per paragraph, and the article is woefully incomplete. It mentions only the United States and European Union but none of the other spacegoing nations. - Dravecky (talk) 10:14, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 25

Democratic Farmers League of Sweden

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 20:42, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Vlastimil Koubek

A 37-story, pink granite skyscraper in Baltimore, Maryland

  • ... that architect Vlastimil Koubek arrived in the United States from Czechoslovakia with just $12, but by the end of his career had designed buildings worth more than $2 billion (USF&G Building pictured)?

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 18:31, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Brian K. Zahra

Created by Jtmichcock (talk). Self nom at 02:30, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tourism in Malta

Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 01:57, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length OK but I could not find "8 per cent" quoted in Ref 13; there should be a citation directly following the sentence referring to Libya; and I could not get Ref 14 to work, it just gave a page of code (or did I do something wrong?). --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 14:14, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • For me, that page brings up a PDF document - if it's still not working for you, click on the appropriate link here. If it's still not working, use the DYKtickAGF template instead of the DYKtick one. I can assure you those figures are there :D Just a note: refs 13 and 14 have been switched (with the MTA link now being ref 13 and the news article ref 14), and a reference has been added after the Libya fact. Just to make it even more confusing for you! Arctic Night 14:23, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • It must be a browser problem. The link works with Internet Explorer but not with Firefox. And the same happens when I try to get it direct from the Malta source; Firefox gives gibberish. Anyway so far as this nomination is concerned, all is now well. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 16:35, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Primitive Hall

A three story brick colonial house surrounded by grass and trees

  • ... that Primitive Hall, built by Joseph Pennock in 1738, has been owned or controlled by his descendants ever since?
  • ALT1:... that Primitive Hall was built by Joseph Pennock in 1738 after his impostum broke?

Created by Smallbones (talk). Self nom at 02:25, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • reviewed Phillips Petroleum v. Wisconsin [14]


Theory of generations

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 00:33, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wabbicommicot

Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 23:20, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Cyril Genik

  • ... that in recognition of his efforts to assist new Ukrainian immigrants to Canada, Cyril Genik was dubbed the "Czar of Canada"?

Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 22:21, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jules Fournier

Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 19:49, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • (AGF for French sources, but pretty much everything is also confirmed by the English source.) Thanks, I wasn't suggesting that it isn't reliable, merely that any article going to the main page should have multiple sources, and that secondary sources are much preferred to tertiary sources. cmadler (talk) 14:00, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't think the picture should be there. To be honest, it's not necessary, and there are other hooks that need the picture space more than this one does. Arctic Night 15:29, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

St Denys' Church, Little Barford

A field with a stone church in the distance, showing an embattled tower on the left, then the nave with a slate roof, and at a lower level the chancel with a red tiled roof

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 17:21, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I agree that the picture doesn't work at 100x100px. As (pictured) is in the wrong location in the hook anyway (it shows the church, not Bedfordshire), I've removed this from the hook text. Schwede66 21:26, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1934 Hillman's Airways de Havilland Dragon Rapide crash

Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 10:34, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Walton J. Wood

Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 10:14, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2.25-Inch Sub-Caliber Aircraft Rocket

Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 07:37, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The cited source says "The 2.25-Inch SCAR (Sub-Caliber Aircraft Rocket) was a family of air-to-ground training rockets used for air-to-ground rocket firing practice by fighter-bomber pilots in the 2nd World War." It doesn't exactly say they learned how to launch 5-Inch Forward Firing Aircraft Rockets using them, does it? Jayjg (talk) 02:21, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Strange Liberation

5x expanded by J04n (talk). Self nom at 04:55, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Borg (regulator)

Created by Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 04:43, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, how about "... that when Joseph Borg seized the headquarters of a corrupt Christian ministry in Tampa he used an armored vehicle but encountered no resistance?" Also, I can't find a source with an exact DOB, but the Wall Street Journal article yesterday said that he is 59. Is that good enough to write that he was born in 1951? Qrsdogg (talk) 16:02, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say that's good enough, as it fits the "anybody can figure this out easily" criterion and thus avoids being OR. As for the hook, I'd suggest striking the "but..." part, it seems extraneous. But either way it works. - The Bushranger One ping only 20:40, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, thanks. I really wanted to work the word "resistance" (get it?) into the hook though, so I'd prefer to keep that part. Qrsdogg (talk) 20:52, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
...I just took 2d6 PUN damage. =P - The Bushranger One ping only 21:04, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1959 National League tie-breaker series

5x expanded by Staxringold (talk). Self nom at 02:23, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • NOTE This really is massively more than a 5x expansion. The edit history looks wonky because I've been writing this in my sandbox for a long time (law school rather sucked up my time for a while there). The last article space version before I made the move can be seen here, just 744 characters/130 words. The current version is 15754 characters/2778 words. Staxringold talkcontribs 02:23, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Crestwood Court

  • ... that Crestwood Court, the first mall in the St. Louis area, has countered the loss of major retailers by adding tenants such as an art gallery and dance studio?

Created by TenPoundHammer (talk). Self nom at 13:32, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Joan of Arc (DuBois)

  • ... that Joan of Arc is the only female equestrian statue in Washington, D.C.?

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by User:Missvain (talk). Self nom at 01:39, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 26

U Dhammaloka

Head and shoulders of a 50-year-old European man in Burmese monk’s robes

Created by Laurence Cox (talk). Self nom at 09:18, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]


WGRQ

5x expanded by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 07:34, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Education in Malta

Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 02:26, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Antioch mosaics

A detailed floor mosaic

Created by Found5dollar (talk). Self nom at 02:11, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Neoregelia 'Dr. Who' at April fools--Found5dollar (talk) 02:30, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Twist of Shadows

Created by Moonriddengirl (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 00:35, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Stephens (solicitor)

  • ALT1:... that the lawyer, Mark Stephens fled to the South of France with James Hewitt to avoid the media, after Hewitt's affair with Princess Diana was made public?
  • Comment: I will do some work on the lead tomorrow, but the rest of the article is stable for now

5x expanded by Smartse (talk). Self nom at 23:46, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Charles B. Russell House

5x expanded by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 23:36, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment No article reviewed yet. I'm going to be busy for the next few hours, but I should be able to get an article reviewed either tonight or tomorrow. Please don't decline this nom unless you find some problem other than the lack of a review. Nyttend (talk) 23:36, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Shloime Dachs

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Yoninah (talk). Self nom at 23:32, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ed Freed

Created by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 23:11, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

NOTE: Reviewed Bright Lights, Bigger City. — KV5Talk23:12, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Euprepius of Verona

Created by Polylerus (talk). Self nom at 23:06, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you reviewed it why didnt you leave a comment at the nomination?:) Please do. cheers--BabbaQ (talk) 23:43, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Zahra's Paradise

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 22:58, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewed Net.wars
  • I cannot find in the article, or in any of the three refs, any mention of the Iranian government. I suggest it would be more accurate (and maybe safer) to leave the last four words out of the hook. (A small point; please place the three refs in numerical order, after the full stop.) --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 13:41, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Net.wars

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 22:02, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I reviewed Quantum dot solar cell. -- Cirt (talk) 22:03, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think the hook above is fine and enticing, but I am open to suggestions. ;) -- Cirt (talk) 23:00, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No offense, but the hook reads like a quote from one's CV :) How about the one below? I think it would make the article more likely to be read. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:08, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That would be fine by me. -- Cirt (talk) 23:10, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mia Skäringer

Mia Skäringer in 2009

Created by --BabbaQ (talk) 21:46, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed:Chautla Hacienda
  • While creation date size and image check (I added the "pictured"), I checked the references and could not find where they verify her winning the award. An English source would also be preferred (though not mandatory). I also propose a an alternative hook, though it requires the same sources. --Muhandes (talk) 15:41, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that Mia Skäringer (pictured), a Swedish actress and comedian, won the Kristallen Award for best comedy show on television in both 2008 and 2009?
I support your hook. I have also found better sourcing for her Kristallen winnings. However only in Swedish (tried to find english sources but didnt find any) but as you said its not mandatory.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:50, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
While the sources are better, they both seem to be published in August 2009, and probably relate to the same Kristallen - probably the 2009 one. There still isn't a source for the other Kristallen (and I stroke the original lead as we both prefer the new one) --Muhandes (talk) 16:53, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Chautla Hacienda

Chautla's "English Castle"

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 20:03, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hook is good, length, DYK ready.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:50, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewed Persian miniature and commented on Jo Tong SopThelmadatter (talk) 22:22, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

--BabbaQ (talk) 20:02, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This article was heavily expanded on January 26.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:03, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Any more interesting hooks? This is true (except for the date) of pretty much every State of the Union address. Ucucha 20:32, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
yes added a new one.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:35, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bright Lights, Bigger City

--BabbaQ (talk) 19:54, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Everything seems to check out in terms of creation, size, references, and etc., but the hook seems a bit dull. Is there something more interesting to dredge up? Also, fix the two all-caps reference titles to be title case instead. — KV5Talk23:07, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I did a new hook.--BabbaQ (talk) 23:41, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Uloqsaq

Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 18:58, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tourism in Nunavut

Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 16:32, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

SMS Prinz Adalbert

A large warship bristling with guns plows through the water at high speed, thick black smoke pours out of its three tall funnels.

5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 16:25, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]


St Mary's Church, Badley

A stone church seen from the south with red tiled roofs and a plain tower on the left

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 14:22, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • This hook is confusing, I had to read the article to see if the church has been 'moth-balled' since the 18th century - It hasn't. So it seems the pews have been touched by countless arses. Chienlit (talk) 17:23, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's the difference between pedantry and metaphor. Of course the pews have been literally touched by various sticky pieces of human anatomy. But the word "untouched" is taken from the Heritage Gateway reference and, if you read it, you will understand what it really means. One of the points of a DYK hook is to engage, intrigue, even to "confuse" the reader, so making a greater likelihood that they will click on the article. Isn't it? You had to!! --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:59, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's the difference between sloppy wording and simple accuracy. Where is it written that One of the points of a DYK hook is to ... "confuse" the reader, (except in the para above of course :) )? Chienlit (talk) 10:15, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
... Oh, and by the way, I don't think that we are supposed to use the text/terminology from third party sources as a justification of 'non-wikipedic' metaphor.

(outdent) What is "sloppy" about quoting from a reliable (therefore accurate) and highly respected source? I meant "confuse" above (quoting from you) not in the sense of "wrong" but rather "intrigue". The only "definition" of a DYK hook of which I am aware is "interesting". The Churches Conservation Trust in whom the church is vested, considers the fact to be sufficiently interesting to include it in their blurb. There are very few churches whose furniture has been undisturbed for over 200 years; maybe a few Friends' chapels, but very few Anglican churches, most of which were "touched" in a big way by Victorian restorers, and since. So I used a fact which is verifiably interesting, and quoted the word describing this from a reliable source. And what is the difference between a 'wikipedic' metaphor and a 'non-wikipedic' metaphor? I am unaware of either term.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 13:26, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tewkesbury Medieval Festival

Men in steel armour attack each other with pikes while arrows fly overhead.

  • ... that in 2003, 25,000 people attended the Tewkesbury Medieval Festival, one of the "ten most bizarre festivals" in England, to watch 2,000 people in medieval garb attack each other with steel weapons (pictured)?

5x expanded by Jappalang (talk). Self nom at 14:14, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The hook is too long, coming in at 220 characters. The DYK maximum is 200, including spaces, and even this is an absolute maximum. I would try to get this down further than that. In addition, I don't like the "watch 2,000 people in medieval garb attack each other with steel weapons" bit. It makes it sound a little stupid - like, "why would they turn up to watch that?" The truth is, it's a re-enactment of a battle, not a free-for-all "watch 2,000 people act all stupid like". Arctic Night 16:29, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • It fits once I changed "the United Kingdom" to "England". Note that "(pictured)" is disputed on whether it counts towards the 200-character limit (see E5 of Additional rules); as it is a demand made when a picture is used, I think it should not be counted. As for sounding stupid, the point of the hook is to make it "short, punchy, catchy, and likely to draw the readers in to wanting to read the article. An interesting hook is more likely to draw in a variety of readers." I think it is more interesting to describe the event without telling people about it ("huh? Why would they do that?" vs "yeah, another re-enactment..."). Regardless, I have included a more mundane ALT hook for consideration. Jappalang (talk) 00:20, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The hook would have gone over the 200 limit with 'pictured' in it or otherwise. Anyway, for ALT1 - moving admin can make the decision on which hook he or she prefers. Arctic Night 00:40, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

tranquillityite, armalcolite, pyroxferroite

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 11:38, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Latin Grammy Award for Producer of the Year

5x expanded by Jaespinoza (talk) 07:33, 26 January 2011 (UTC). Self nom at 07:32, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Jerome Lambert

Amala (mythology)

5x expanded by Regstuff (talk). Self nom at 06:22, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ho Tung Gardens

Created and nominated by Ohconfucius ¡digame!) at 04:31, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ready to go, length, hook and age check out. Racepacket (talk) 12:55, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jerome Lambert

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 02:22, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go. Jaespinoza (talk) 07:41, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Il Guerrin Meschino

Created by Wetman (talk). Self nom at 02:39, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, I edited it for content to make it suitable for the Main Page. --Wetman (talk) 07:50, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's great, but you did not post a "review" here. If you had reviewed the article, you probably would have noticed that it's not eligible for DYK, with or without your copy edit. - PM800 (talk) 08:21, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 27

Gris-gris

  • ... that in the 1980's Gris-gris were one of the top-three forms of birth control in Senegal?

5x expanded by All Hail The Muffin (talk). Self nom at 16:50, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cape Moreton Light

A light brown sandstone lighthouse with two red horizontal bands and red cupola

Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 16:00, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]


St Peter's Church, South Somercotes

A stone church seen from the south with, from the left, a tower with a tall spire, the nave with a protruding aisle and a porch, and a shorter chancel

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 13:46, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Special occasion holding area

Do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, please nominate them in the candidate entries section above under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially-timed appearance on the Main Page.
Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.



February 5 or 6

1960 NFL Championship Game

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 14:25, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

[And I would save this DYK for February 5th/6th, before the Super Bowl XLV kick-off.] --PFHLai (talk) 21:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Frankfurter Löwen

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 12:44, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]


February 15

Saint Usuge Spaniel

A brown dog with white markings in it's fur.

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 22:47, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hook fact checks out and spot check of sources appears mostly ok - I am not certain ref 3 qualifies as a RS, but other sources support its claims. Image is fine, and I made a small change to the hook, noting that the breed was saved from extinction. Resolute 01:12, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks - removed ref 3 now, as thinking about it now, you're right.   Miyagawa    talk   10:45, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Would it be possible to keep this for February 15th, as it's the second day of the Westminster Kennel Club show.   Miyagawa    talk   23:42, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
So moved to this special occasion holding area. --PFHLai (talk) 00:47, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Obo II

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 22:56, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Would it be possible to keep this for February 15th, as it's the second day of the Westminster Kennel Club show.   Miyagawa    talk   23:43, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Looks okay for length, date, and hook, although I'm not crazy about the unfamiliar abbreviation "Ch." I've taken out the "in vitro" sentence since they weren't doing that sort of thing back in the 19th century AFAIK (I assume you mean that Chloe II was impregnated). "in transit" needs to be clarified; I'm guessing it means he was traveling across the Atlantic. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:25, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Feb.28th

Northern Epirote Declaration of Independence

A group of people is gathered in lines: military personel, civilians, clergy. A flag with is waving on the left and a river is seen on the background.

Created/expanded by CrazyMartini (talk), Alexikoua (talk). Self nom at 13:44, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting and clear. Length and date verified. One source in German accepted in good faith. Good to go. Aridd (talk) 21:07, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Halloween

Rhacophorus vampyrus

  • ... that the tadpole of the Vampire flying frog Rhacophorus vampyrus has two fang-like hooks in its mouth?

Created by Newone (talk), Ka Faraq Gatri (talk). Nominated by Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) at 14:59, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment If the article meets DYK criteria, suggest moving it to Special Occasions section and keeping for Halloween. The authors of the paper on which this article is substantially based have stated that they intend to publish a separate paper on the tadpoles of this species so the move would also allow time for any material from this paper (assuming it is published in time) to be incorporated. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 16:56, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's confirmed. I agree that this should be kept for Halloween, especially as "A detailed description of the new tadpole will be published separately." which might be available by October. It's certainly an early start for the Halloween collection, does anyone think it is a problem to save it until then? SmartSE (talk) 23:41, 10 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
SUPPORT waiting till Halloween, esp. if we can get a good, free picture of the scary tadpoles. --PFHLai (talk) 04:06, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've moved this as there were no objections. If someone wants to make a subpage for it, like we have for April Fools' nominations then feel free. SmartSE (talk) 12:46, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Halloween is just under 10 months away. I can't help thinking that if every vaguely ghoulish or spooky article is saved up that long, it will create a massive backlog (and a precedent for other days). After all, there are only 3-4 sessions of 6 or 7 hooks available for any particular day. Bob talk 22:26, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See also