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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on September 24

Sophia Fresh

  • ... that girl group Sophia Fresh's first single, "What It Is", impressed Rihanna so much that she wished the song was hers?

5x expanded by Cornucopia (talk). Self nom at 08:24, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NGC 3109

A photograph of the galaxy NGC 3109

5x expanded by Reyk (talk). Self nom at 05:21, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Neuilly sa mère !

Created by Rjanag (talk). Self nom at 04:24, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

George Munroe

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 02:53, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Nui Le

5x expanded by Newm30 (talk). Self nom at 01:07, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 23

Petra Noskaiová

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 07:04, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chord Overstreet

Created by Yvesnimmo (talk). Nominated by Fetchcomms (talk) at 02:08, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ji-Man Choi

Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 00:32, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dead Timber State Recreation Area

Created by Dincher (talk). Self nom at 00:05, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of celebrity guest appearances on Neighbours

5x expanded by JuneGloom07 (talk). Self nom at 00:03, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mangia

  • ... that in the extremely rare 1983 video game Mangia, the player controls a boy whose mother attempts to feed him so much pasta that his stomach will explode?

Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 22:02, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Church of All Souls, Bolton

A broad church in brick with stone dressings, seen from the northeast, with a canted apse, a crocketted pinnacle, and in the distance a tower, also with crocketted pinnacles

5x expanded by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 20:46, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


six articles

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 20:01, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Church of St Demetrius, Patalenitsa; Patalenitsa

A medieval church constructed of stone and brickwork with the entrance and dome visible standing in a grassy area with wooded mountains in the background

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Nominated by TodorBozhinov (talk) at 19:57, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Grove Church Cemetery

  • ALT1:... that Robert Gardner's metallic coffin was found opened, removed from the shelf upon which it sat in a granite, iron barred and locked vault at Grove Church Cemetery, and no one was sure why?

5x expanded by Theornamentalist (talk). Nominated by Theornamentalist (talk) at 19:47, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Early life and career of Julius Caesar

Created by RomanHistorian (talk). Self nom at 17:36, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Actually I did know that :) So many exciting alternatives here, though;
ALT1 ... that for a period of Julius Caesar's early career, he was not permitted to touch a horse, sleep three nights outside his own bed or one night outside Rome, or look upon an army?
--Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:53, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2 ... that during Julius Caesar's early career, he gave up his betrothal to the woman he'd been engaged to since boyhood, in order to become a priest?
(this ALT2 only any use if it's OK for a front page fact to be sourced to Suetonius) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:09, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT3 ... that in Julius Caesar's early career, he spent so long at the court of King Nicomedes that Plutarch, Suetonius and Cassius Dio mention rumours of an affair between the two men?
--Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:15, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT4 ... ... that at age 25 Julius Caesar was captured by pirates, but after being ransomed, chased them, captured them, and had them crucified?
--Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:23, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • About the article, though, if this is appropriate here. First, there is no wikilink for the man himself in the article that I could see. Second, I wonder if there is precedent for forking out the early part of the life of a person. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 19:34, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes it should have a wikilink to the main article. At least some sentences (but not paragraphs) seem to be identical to material already in the main article. (But, that may be partly because they are simply using the same sources.) However, there seems to be concensus (or at least a biumvirate :) on the main article's talk page that a separate article on the early life is the way to go. I agree with what's said there - the main article is, appropriately enough, written in a style much more approachable to the layman, whereas this one, by contrast, goes into more detail (and seems intended to be the first of a series I guess.)
Another ALT to add, if someone wants to give it a try, is Caesar telling his pirate captors that the ransome they are demanding for him, is much too small. But I forget how well it's sourced and it sounds oddly familiar somehow (other people adopted the same approach later?) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:14, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I corrected the wikilink issue. I like ALT3 the best. It would probably draw the most attention. And Caesar told his captors that they should be able to get a ransom of at least double what they first wanted.RomanHistorian (talk) 03:05, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jim Cardwell

Created by Jenks24 (talk). Self nom at 14:59, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • A lot of sports club officials serve for a fairly long time (or indeed a very long time), so this is really not all that eye-catching. Just to try to add a bit more interest and variety, how about;
ALT1 ... that Jim Cardwell was the secretary of the Melbourne Football Club for 25 years, but also ran an engineering business and had previously been a soldier and a successful debater?
ALT2 ... that Jim Cardwell gave up his engineering business to become full-time secretary for Melbourne Football Club, a post he held for 25 years?
--Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:47, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the suggestions, they're both better than what I had originally. But how about either:
ALT3 ... that Jim Cardwell was part of the Melbourne Football Club's "backbone of steel", which contributed to the club winning six premierships in 14 years?
ALT4 ... that Jim Cardwell was the secretary of the Melbourne Football Club for 25 years and he became known as the "Prince of Secretaries"?
Jenks24 (talk) 07:20, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of World Heritage Sites in Peru

Machu Picchu

Created by Grsz11 (talk). Nominated by Grsz11 (talk) at 14:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Count of the Stable

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 13:49, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wat Pasantidhamma

Created by Rlevse (talk). Self nom at 10:06, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

American Honda Motor Company

Headquarters of American Honda

Created by Jeff Bedford (talk). Nominated by Zunaid (talk) at 08:17, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Linn Duachaill

  • ... that one of the best-preserved Viking settlements in Europe, Linn Duachaill, was founded at the same time as Dublin, in the 840s, and was unearthed and identified in September 2010?

Created by Drmies (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 04:31, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Twycross

Created by Hordesofkreuser (talk). Nominated by Mono (talk) at 01:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hildegard Laurich

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 07:04, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 22

Richard Cantillon

  • Comment: Expanded over a period of two days. Originally, the article was at about 8kB in length, however it was deleted for plagiarism. At the time I began editing it it was therefore essentially non-existent. I expanded it to over 40kB, so either way it should meet the length requirement.

5x expanded by Catalan (talk). Nominated by Catalan (talk) at 04:19, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Noosa National Park

5x expanded by Shiftchange (talk). Self nom at 02:52, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actua

Created by KT44 (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 18:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gros-Mécatina, Quebec

Gros-Mécatina

5x expanded by P199 (talk). Nominated by P199 (talk) at 16:47, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Soulless (novel), Changeless (novel), Blameless (novel)

Created by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 11:24, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Murray Sayle

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 01:05, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SweeTango (apple)

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 23:14, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Darius Dhlomo

Created by Uncle G (talk), Sillyfolkboy (talk). Nominated by Sillyfolkboy (talk) at 22:23, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Inocybe maculata

A small, creamy brown mushroom with a split cap being picked up from a bed of twigs

Created by J Milburn (talk). Self nom at 18:05, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


3 Deewarein

5x expanded by Mspraveen (talk). Self nom at 17:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Joyce Beber

  • ... that Leona Helmsley hired Joyce Beber to promote her hotels and fired her four times, including once after Helmsley was convicted for income tax evasion and blamed Beber for having raised her profile?

Created by Bongomatic (talk), Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:02, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Clarence Seamans

Created by Elcobbola (talk). Self nom at 15:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ned Sutton

Created by Jenks24 (talk). Self nom at 14:51, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Paycheck Fairness Act

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 14:43, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

St Andrew's Church, East Heslerton

A stone church seen from the northeast with a broad tower and spire, a chancel with an apse and, between them a small vestry

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 14:36, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


HIP Petrohemija

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 14:21, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hornby Lighthouse

Hornby Lighthouse, a tapered circular structure painted with red and white vertical stripes, with a white balcony and railing, and glass lantern.

5x expanded by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 11:24, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Flags (album)

Created by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 09:39, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kenneth Strong

5x expanded by Hawkeye7 (talk) 09:14, 22 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 09:13, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Beaufort Sea

  • ... that there is a border dispute between Canada and US over a part of the Beaufort Sea?

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 06:28, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • By my count prose not quite expanded 5 fold: original character count about 2400, current count about 10880. Good additions though! -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 17:05, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hm. DYK check confirms 5x expansion and says the preexpansion versions are below 2k of prose. Materialscientist (talk) 23:21, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • You could push it a little higher by mentioning the Amauligak project. Uncle G (talk) 23:52, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • And if that doesn't get you much, there's stuff to be had from doi:10.1029/2009GL041434, and the reports (such as this) based upon it. Uncle G (talk) 23:57, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        Added bits on both topics, that pushed the prose count to above 12k. Materialscientist (talk) 06:07, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

HMS Hector (1862)

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 05:21, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Butcher, the Chef and the Swordsman

Created by Andrzejbanas (talk). Nominated by Andrzejbanas (talk) at 03:24, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 21

Manuel Ascencio Padilla, Padilla, Bolivia

Created by Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 03:46, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pascalization

Created by Fetchcomms (talk). Self nom at 02:19, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Brett Beavers

Created by J04n (talk). Self nom at 01:21, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Albany Diner

Miss Albany Diner photographed in 2010, a single-storey building in the shape of a railroad car, with an Art Deco facade in cream and maroon stripes.

Created by Voceditenore (talk). Self nom at 13:33, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • While "Lil's Diner" may be the name used for the NRHP nom, the place has been known as "Miss Albany Diner" since the late 1980s and few people call it (or would recognize it) as Lil's. I just moved the article to Miss Albany Diner and consequently changed the name used in the DYK nom as well. upstateNYer 22:26, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fathi Osman

  • ... that The New York Times cited as "monumental" the 1997 book Concepts of the Quran: A Topical Reading by Fathi Osman, in which he explained concepts in Islam for non-Muslims?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 12:50, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bergens TF

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 09:18, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Paul De Villiers

Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 04:50, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Byron Cook

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:58, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

World Golf Village

Hall of Fame at World Golf Village

5x expanded by Mgreason (talk). Self nom at 01:14, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

CatholicVote.org

Created by BS24 (talk). Nominated by Lionelt (talk) at 22:20, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • For some of us in Europe and other places, a "pro-life spot" would be a place where people plant and nurture trees. Not saying there is anything wrong with the hook, but it may not be as immediately understood as you might think - at least outside the advertising industry, and in some parts of the world. I guess "spot" means "commercial placement", or something like that? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 03:20, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Littlejohn

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 20:31, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lucernaria janetae

Created by Ka Faraq Gatri (talk). Self nom at 17:59, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hmm. On reflection the hook is best supported from this reference From The Desk of Zelnio: Lucernaria janetae but I'm not sure if it would pass WP:RS being a blog (all be it one that appears to be written by scientists). Anything beyond that is really WP:OR e.g. Collins and Daly's tentative identification of Lutz 1998's population as L. janetae (that paper states that it is "the first time a representative of the class Scyphozoa (Cnidaria) has been encountered in a hydrothermal vent"). Also there's the failure of Collins and Daly to compare L. janetae with other vent dwelling Stauromedusae (something I'd expect given their comparisons with other Stauromedusae that aren't vent dwelling) and the failure of subsequent publications to mention any other named vent dwelling Stauromedusae species - but again it's WP:OR. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 13:11, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 ... that Lucernaria janetae has eight lance-shaped gonads? Smartse (talk) 21:06, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Church of St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, St Mary's Church, Purton, St Andrew's Church, Wanborough

Created by Belovedfreak (talk). Self nom at 16:25, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fântânele-Cogealac Wind Farm

5x expanded by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 13:51, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article and hook length have been verified. The article is well-sourced, but the specific source used to back the hook states that it is "a wind farm which the backers claim is the largest project of its kind in Europe", which makes it seem that the reference is just repeating a claim, rather than having verified it. It's also not clear that the source meets WP:RS. Is there any other reliable and verifiable source that supports the claim or might there be an alternate hook with stronger sourcing? If I read the translation correctly, this source from Adevărul would back the claim, but an English language source would always be preferred. Alansohn (talk) 18:02, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Found an English ref. BineMai 20:56, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've reorganised the hook a little. Here's another ref, just wanted to check that this isn't too crystally before ticking it off. Personally I think it is ok as it is half built already. Smartse (talk) 00:27, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Çubuk-1 Dam

5x/nom by --NortyNort (Holla) 12:34, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Missa (Bach)

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 07:54, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Amar la Trama

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 07:28, 21 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 07:27, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Monte Robbins

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:36, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gene Swick

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 04:49, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

HMS Defence (1861)

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 04:25, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Empire State

Created by UpstateNYer (talk). Nominated by UpstateNYer (talk) at 03:26, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cape Parry

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 03:09, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Diamond Valley Lake

5x expanded by Lvi56 (talk). Self nom at 20:03, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The article was 7,467 characters in length when expansion started and is 9,950 characters now, well short of the 5x minimum. Is there any possibility of substantial further expansion of the article to the 37K it would have to reach per DYK rules? Alansohn (talk) 18:07, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 20

Bill Erickson

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 04:16, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Frédéric Chopin's illness

Created by Gregory of nyssa (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 03:23, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Western Cemetery (Portland, Maine)

  • ... that when a number of tombs were opened at the Western Cemetery in Portland, Maine, nothing was found inside and no record was was of where the remains went? (this might be a candidate for Halloween?)

Created by Namiba (talk). Nominated by Namiba (talk) at 03:03, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hodo Sokoli

  • ... that Hodo Sokoli, a 19th century Albanian freedom fighter, publicly removed his Ottoman insignia and uniform and put on an Albanian dress?

Created by ZjarriRrethues (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 21:17, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


North Main Street School

A two-story brick building seen from its left, with a bare tree in front on that corner. It has many large windows, two entrances with decorative stone trim and a point in the center of the roof. The U.S. and POW-MIA flags are flying from a flagpole in front.

  • Comment: Fivefold text expansion

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 19:13, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

bacha posh

  • ... that a practice in Afghanistan where a daughter in a family without sons is dressed in male clothing and acts as a boy, allowing her to do things she couldn't do as a girl, is called bacha posh?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:44, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Evangelical School of Smyrna

Created by Alexikoua (talk). Self nom at 11:54, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Hannum

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Nominated by Ktr101 (talk) at 02:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is this person notable? I see coverage in one local newspaper, the university website and no inherent notability.--TM 03:11, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

George N. Parks Drum Major Academy

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Nominated by Ktr101 (talk) at 01:50, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • At last check, the article was just past 1,200 characters of prose, short of the 1,500 required. It might make more sense to include the material in this article in the parent George N. Parks rather than stretching to create an article about the academy he created. Alansohn (talk) 17:49, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

George N. Parks Marching Band Building

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Nominated by Ktr101 (talk) at 00:30, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Donald W. Davis

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:48, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ottoman-Mamluk War (1485–1491)

Mamluk cavalry

Created/expanded by Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Nominated by Per Honor et Gloria (talk) at 13:28, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Leonard Skinner

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:17, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ollie E. Brown

5x expanded by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 03:19, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Events of 1807-08

alt2 = ... that the Janissaries staged their last successful coups against Ottoman sultans during the Events of 1807-08? --> Created by DCI2026 (talk). Self nom at 23:50, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shirgj Monastery

  • ... that when people would get buried within the ruins of the Shirgj Monastery the gravediggers would often encounter old mosaics of the old church?

Created by Sulmues (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 21:32, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • (shorter)... that within the ruins of the Shirgj Monastery in northern Albania the gravediggers would often encounter mosaics from the old church?
Fine with me. --Sulmues (talk) 22:21, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length and date are all good, but Google Translate doesn't do a good job on the hook reference, so AFG on that one. Shorter hook is better, though it wouldn't hurt to add "in northern Albania" or something, just to give the reader some context as to where Shirgj is. — Toдor Boжinov — 15:00, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Done--Sulmues (talk) 15:01, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anina mine and Crivina Power Station

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 21:27, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that the Anina mine supplied Crivina Power Station with oil shale?
I'm not 100% sure if this is correct though as it's not explicitly mentioned in the articles at the moment, can you see if it is mentioned in this ref? If it isn't the original hook needs changing, since it is not the oldest mine, but the longest running operational mine. Smartse (talk) 16:41, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The ref you supplied indeed states that the power station was supplied with oil shale from Anina. BineMai 17:40, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Added the ref to the Crivina article aswell and i'm going with your ALT. BineMai 17:45, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The mine article says it "was intended to supply Crivina Power Station" and the power station article says "it was supposed to be supplied with ... oil shale ... from the nearby Anina mine". Do the refs state that the mine did actually supplt the power station though? (I've removed the second nom and added the DYKmake template to this one). Smartse (talk) 00:07, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Red-and-yellow Barbet

A bird with a yellow breast, red head and black sides with white spots sat on a branch.

  • ... that while Red-and-yellow Barbets (male pictured) are tame in areas where they are not persecuted, they are hunted by the Maasai for their feathers?

5x expanded by J Milburn (talk). Nominated by J Milburn (talk) at 18:55, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


The Park Centre for Mental Health

created by CybergothiChé (talk). Self nom at 1:41, 21 September 2010 (AEST)

Joe A. Guerra

  • ... that Joe A. Guerra, a 20-year member of the Laredo, Texas, City Council, once grabbed a shovel to remove a dead animal from an inquiring constitutent's residence?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 00:11, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


ALT:that Joe A. Guerra, an active Republican in heavily Democratic Laredo, Texas, won five elections to the city council but on the nonpartisan ballot required for municipal offices in his state?

David Sibley (Texas politician)

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 23:52, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ann Dexter Gordon

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 23:07, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Olaf Kullmann

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 21:13, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alessandro Portelli

Created by Dwalls (talk). Self nom at 20:13, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

White Knuckles

  • ... that the band OK Go's music video for "White Knuckles" is a one-shot take of the band interacting with twelve trained dogs and a goat?

Created by Masem (talk). Self nom at 18:18, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Operation Pike

Created by Martintg (talk). Self nom at 18:06, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well it would be great to find more sources, but it is a very obscure topic. The source used, Osborn's book Operation Pike. Britain Versus the Soviet Union, 1939-1941 is very well regarded. For example Keith Neilson (who himself is a Professor of history and author of several books on Anglo-Russian relations[1]) reviewed the book in the academic journal "Diplomacy and Statecraft". He writes: "Osborn, an archivist for the American National Archives and Records Administration, has provided a very useful study of British policy towards the Soviet Union from 1939 to 1941 and, in particular, of the little-known Anglo-french plans to attack the Soviet Union in the period from September 1939 to June 1940."
In conclusion, Neilson writes: "This is a very good book on a limited topic. It does not promise more than it deliveres, its documentary base is exemplary and its conclusions are judicious and carefully considered."
--Martin (talk) 04:59, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sounds good.
  • What do you think of this as an alternative hook;
ALT1 ... that the Nazis claimed the successful Blitzkrieg against France in 1940 saved the Soviet Union from an allied strategic bombing campaign called Operation Pike?
(I also considered replacing "allied" with "Anglo-French" but I think keeping the wider term makes it potentially more eye-catching) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Another thing - I'm not sure the picture can be used, since we'd need to say something like "against Soviet oil facilities (example pictured)" which makes the hook rather more clumsy and also takes away some of the mystery. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:38, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

William Coblentz (California)

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:18, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Jenkins Onderdonk

Fall of the Alamo

Created/expanded by Adrienlenoir (talk) and Drmies (talk) at 17:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Verified. I didn't see a source for the birthplace, so I added one. I added a "pictured", but feel free to reword and/or move that. I also upgraded the credit for Drmies from DYKnom to DYKmake, as his substantial expansion made the DYK possible. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:58, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Mecklenburg's Garden

5x expanded by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 13:24, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gaza Baptist Church

created by User:AMuseo and User:CMBJ (talk) (talk) . Nominated by User:AMuseo (talk) 20 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm admittedly biased as a person who contributed to the article, but I concur that this would make an interesting DYK entry.   — C M B J   22:40, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alfred Marshall Bailey

Created by Maias (talk). Self nom at 11:54, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dodge Morgan

  • ... that radar detector millionaire Dodge Morgan at age 54 sailed solo around the globe without stops in 150 days, shattering the prior record of 292 days?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 06:17, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Arthur's Quest: Battle for the Kingdom

Created by Nomader (talk). Self nom at 06:07, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pahuk

Created by Ammodramus (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 04:33, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Khao Phing Kan + Andaman Sea

James Bond Island James Bond Island Eruption of the Barren Island volcano in 1995. Andaman Islands are 90 km away.

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 03:56, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • ... that James Bond Island (pictured) is protected by sharks? (not currently reffed, but should be easy? Might even be able to flip it the other way, saying something about the sharks being protected? <g>) I suspect that the average viewer might have a better idea where "off southern Thailand" was than the Andaman Sea? Le Deluge (talk) 12:10, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I could add Andaman Sea to ALT1 (which I need), but I can't imagine how an island can be protected by sharks. Those are rather shallow waters and while looking for literature on that island, I haven't seen anything on sharks. Please clarify. Is it from James Bond movie? Materialscientist (talk) 22:37, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sharks are mentioned in the sea in the Flora and fauna section (albeit not currently reffed, should be doable); it's a common theme in Bond films for the baddie's lair to contain a pool of sharks that people are thrown into, and those who try to rush the baddie's chair end up swimming with the sharks, so the idea of sharks protecting the baddy is a common image. Don't add Andaman Sea to ALT1, the simpler the better - and I suspect most people have either not heard of it or have at best a hazy idea of where it is, so it's not helping the hook. Le Deluge (talk) 01:29, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks, but I prefer to stay with real world and real facts. Andaman sea article currently does not mention sharks. They might be there, but I doubt there are many around Khao Phing Kan. I fully agree that the simpler the better, but I have expanded Andaman Sea too for this DYK; surely I could split this nom into two, but given the backlog, I would keep them as a double. Materialscientist (talk) 01:45, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just saying, personally I like the original hook the best– it got me to click on both of them. With the state of the backlog, it'd be much preferable as well to have a double hook rather than split them up. Nomader (Talk) 18:14, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

M-6 (Michigan highway)

  • ... that during the "Southbelt Shuffle" event on M-6 south of Grand Rapids, Michigan, horses were ridden on the partially completed freeway?

5x expanded by Imzadi1979 (talk). Self nom at 03:15, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ontario Highway 9

5x expanded by Floydian (talk). Self nom at 02:32, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 19

Sirmilik National Park

Sirmilk National Park

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 11:11, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • By my count (from the last revision prior to Blofield's expansion on Sept. 19) prose not quite expanded 5 fold: original character count about 1650, current count about 7700. Good additions though! -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 17:10, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The edit prior to the beginning of expansion was on June 9, when the article had 337 characters of prose. After the expansion which began September 19, it's currently at 7559. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:52, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thado Minsaw of Prome, Prome Kingdom

Created by Hybernator (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 15:11, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Formerly the Warlocks

Created by Mudwater (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 14:54, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

September War for Šibenik

Created by Jesuislafete (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 23:30, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Day I Shot Cupid

Created by IanM197 (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 21:27, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Zuhal Sultan

Created by Stannez (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 20:51, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Family (Blumenfeld)

Created by Claudiamoon (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 20:48, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sopwith Cobham

Created by Nigel Ish (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 20:30, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Siderno Group

Created by DonCalo (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 20:11, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Port Phillip District Special Surveys

Created by Billingd (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 19:53, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anton von Zach

Created by Djmaschek (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 19:38, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

George W. Rice

Created by Innapoy (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 19:27, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Colt Model 1878

A pair of revolvers

Created by Engineer comp geek (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 19:16, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2010 Slovenia floods

Flooding in Slovenia

  • ... that severe floods, one of the worst in country's history, affected Slovenia last weekend?
  • Comment: ALT 1 ... that heavy rains in mid-September 2010 caused flooding in many parts of Slovenia, including the capital Ljubljana (pictured).

There are several free photos available in the article, I leave the choice to the evaluating admin. Created by Tone (talk). Self nom at 15:21, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rodolph Crandall

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Nominated by Aboutmovies (talk) at 05:16, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Islamization of the Gaza Strip

created by User:AMuseo User:Marokwitz (talk).([[User talk:Markowitz|talk}} Nominated by User:AMuseo (talk) 21 September 2010 (UTC)


Bénoué National Park

5x expanded by Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 03:22, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Enough Is Enough (organization)

  • ... that as a leader of the anti-Internet pornography organization Enough Is Enough, a former political sex scandal "other woman" became an influential Washington, D.C., lobbyist?

Created by Wasted Time R (talk). Self nom at 02:39, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Golden Submarine

Created by Chipguy21 (talk), Royalbroil (talk). Nominated by Royalbroil (talk) at 02:17, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thriasian Plain

Created by Athenean (talk). Nominated by Athenean (talk) at 19:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Batoufam

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 14:09, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

San Juan de Silicia

Created by Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk). Self nom at 09:03, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Lawton

5x expanded by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 04:28, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wow, that article was rewritten, looks great in a cursory glance for a Good Article review. The article had said 48 tickets but the source confirms 38, so I updated the article. The article is ready to run on DYK. Nice job! Royalbroil 02:07, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eastern Promenade

View of Casco Bay from the Eastern Promenade Park

Created by Namiba (talk). Nominated by Namiba (talk) at 04:11, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mount Pleasant (Indian Falls, New York)

A square white house with green window shutters, wide overhanging eaves and a small square tower in the middle of the roof seen from a corner angle

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 03:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Christian bookstore, Gaza

  • ... that the only Christian bookstore in Gaza closed after its owner was beaten and murdered by armed extremists?

created by User:AMuseo (talk). Nominated by User:AMuseo (talk) 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Done.AMuseo (talk) 11:50, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A glance at the article or at the AFD will show the baselessness of the AFD.AMuseo (talk) 11:50, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If an article is nominated for deletion, the DYK nomination remains in the queue until the discussion is closed. Then it gets reviewed for DYK. I wouldn't be worried if I were you. Royalbroil 02:12, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Canadian Air-Sea Transportable Brigade Group

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 23:25, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

*Also, USST may refer to:, the United States Ski Team, the University of Saskatchewan Space Design Team, or the University of Shanghai for Science and Technology, China; is USSR intended? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:20, 20 September 2010 (UTC) Someone fixed that part --Demiurge1000 (talk) 08:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, that was me, I fixed both issues and failed to post a note. Maury Markowitz (talk) 10:52, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Frederick E. Morgan

5x expanded by Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:09, 19 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 22:08, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Adelaide leak

Created by Sarastro1 (talk). Self nom at 20:43, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anything to do with Bradman would be very hooky outside North America, and the dispute over writing newspaper columns is an interesting angle with modern resonance. Le Deluge (talk) 12:59, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Toyota Celica LB Turbo

Created by Donnie Park (talk). Nominated by Donnie Park (talk) at 20:37, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Paul S. Martin, Paul Sidney Martin

Created by User:Davidlchandler and yours truly. - East of Borschov 19:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: Why is it surprising or eye-catching that the university of Arizona should employ anthropologists? To put that another way, are there perhaps some more interesting facts about these two individuals? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:36, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tamaulipas massacre

Created by Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 18:29, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ambam

  • ... that in January 2010, the mayor of Ambam was arrested and accused of the embezzlement of 20 million CFA Francs?

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 16:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Prose originally less than 500 bytes. More than expanded x5. Dr. Blofeld 16:17, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

UAAP Season 73 men's basketball tournament

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Nominated by Howard the Duck (talk) at 16:05, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's 233 characters. How about the following, which is exactly 200? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:01, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'd prefer the coach being named. Why not ditch "double lane violation" and change it to "jump ball" since that was his purpose in instructing his player to cross the lane? –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 18:13, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. ALT2 is also 200 characters. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:47, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Verified. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:44, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:52, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vespa luctuosa

Created by IronGargoyle (talk). Self nom at 15:26, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Brijesh Mishra

Created by LogicDictates (talk) 13:49, 19 September 2010 (UTC). Nominated by LogicDictates (talk) 13:49, 19 September 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Alpiq

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 13:19, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • OK, so a Swiss power generating company has a stake in a Swiss power generating facility. But is this really interesting or surprising or unusual?
Maybe you should add ", the tallest gravity dam in the world" to the end of it? (Although there might be issues with exactly how that fact is sourced.)
Or try a hook along the lines that although most of Alpiq's power generation is from hydroelectric or geothermal sources, it's currently investing in a solar power station in Sicily? Still not exactly fascinating, but it adds a bit of variety at least. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:58, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pope John Paul II's visit to the United Kingdom

Created by TheRetroGuy (talk). Nominated by TheRetroGuy (talk) at 12:14, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The West Wing (season 7)

5x expanded by Rambo's Revenge (talk). Self nom at 11:48, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Samuel Rabin (artist)

Created by DavidCane (talk). Self nom at 03:13, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on September 18

Pearl Rivers

Photograph of Pearl Rivers

  • ... that the pioneering journalist Pearl Rivers took her pseudonym from the river that ran near her home?

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 14:25, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Email disclaimer

Created by Colonel Warden (talk). Self nom at 21:02, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lorraine Fisher, Jane Stoll

Created by MusiCitizen (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 20:04, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • In the Jane Stoll article, I don't see an inline cite that states the fact in the hook. In the Lorraine Fisher article, the citations never say that she is specifically in the display. Both articles are also in questionable shape. But the dates and length check out. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 03:09, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kreutzer Air Coach

  • ... that there is only a single extant example of the K-5 Air Coach aircraft?

Created by RuthAS (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 18:31, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Portrait of Mary Adeline Williams

An oil painting of a middle-aged white woman with an austere expression on her face. She is dressed in an antiquated black dress, slightly reflective, with a white collar

Created/expanded by JNW (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 18:16, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Processing fluency theory of aesthetic pleasure, Processing fluency

Created by Fuzzy artist (talk), Miegoreng (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 17:55, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

August von Haxthausen

Created by Languagehat (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 17:04, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Zhuge Shuang

Created by Nlu (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 15:00, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Antiviral protein

Created by Kfranks81292 (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 14:50, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ralph Iwowari

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 13:59, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I just spotted this by accident when checking status on self-nominated Pearl Rivers (below), then saw a related article had also been nominated. This one and Nembe Kingdom are closely related and overlap to some extent: the kingdom and one of the current kings. Maybe one could be posted (I prefer the kingdom) but not both, my view. Aymatth2 (talk) 01:52, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SS Georgiana (1863)

Created by RebaLee74 (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 14:33, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew Jackson (clipper)

Created/expanded by Bigturtle (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 13:49, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edumanom Forest Reserve

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 13:37, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chavonnes Battery

Created/expanded by Rodw (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 13:31, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1999–2000 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team and 2000–01 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

Created by Court Jester (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 02:18, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2007–08 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

Created by Court Jester (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 02:08, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


2001–02 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team, 2002–03 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team, 2003–04 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team, 2005–06 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team, 2006–07 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

Created by User:Court Jester (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 02:01, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    • I believe all except 2003–04 were created by Court Jester. All expanded by TonyTheTiger
2004-05 is only 1300 or so. REally need to change the wikicup rules with a prose multiplier to stop DYK/GA getting flooded YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 02:36, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Teaching to the test

  • ... that the educational practice of teaching to the test has been criticised for excluding creative and abstract-thinking skills?

Created by Nikkimaria (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 21:30, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Feathered Helmet, The Death of Captain James Cook (Zoffany)

man in helmet made from feathers but looks ancient Greek in shape

  • Comment: ref in ledes

Created/expanded by Victuallers Victuallers (talk) 08:19, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


French blockade of the Río de la Plata

Created by User:MBelgrano (talk). Self nom at 03:50, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can we please have a chronological anchor in there, clarify, and remove a little redundancy?

Jonas Mouton

5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 02:44, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Elsham Priory

Created/expanded by Bob Castle (talk). Nominated by Bob Castle (talk) at 23:22, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fyodor Petrovich Komissarzhevsky

Photograph of a man standing, wearing leather books, knee-length tunic and feathered hat

  • Comment: I wasn't sure what date to list this for. The article was created as a 28 word stub on 16 September by User:Neddyseagoon [2] which I expanded to 630 words (3473 characters) on 18 September. The hook is based on the 6th and 7th sentences of the second paragraph of the Biography section. The article uses a shortened footnote format for the inline citations. Consult the Sources section for full bibliographic information and links for the citations.

5x expanded by Voceditenore (talk). Self nom at 08:33, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • ALT 2 ... that the 19th century Russian tenor Fyodor Petrovich Komissarzhevsky (pictured) sang in Italy under the name of "Teodoro di Pietro"?

    (based on the 3rd sentence of the first paragraph of the Biography section.)

Joseph Bringas

5x expanded by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 17:31, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • 5x expansion, length and date verified. There are some minor issues with hook wording, though. First, "overthrown" sounds as if Bringas indeed held the title of emperor. I wouldn't be against using this verb in the article, where you have provided context and explained that he was de facto head of state of Byzantium, but we do not have this context in the hook. It can be interpreted as if he was overthrown from his position as parakoimomenos by a general wishing to be an emperor, regardless of whether a parakoimomenos can be overthrown. Also, and I'm not sure on that one, "resisted" alone somehow implies a successful resistance. Perhaps another verb should be used or it should be elaborated with something like "initially resisted" to tie it with the second part of the sentence. — Toдor Boжinov — 15:16, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Good points. The second one is easy, change "resisted" to "opposed". For the first one, I pondered it myself: "deposed" is, if anything, worse, and there has to be an implication of a violent change, i.e. overthrow. Only if we change the meaning completely can something be done, e.g. instead of "was overthrown" we could use "was defeated". Otherwise the only way would be to try and introduce the context into the hook, i.e. "that Joseph Bringas, the virtual regent of the Byzantine Empire, opposed the rise of general Nikephoros Phokas to the throne, but was overthrown after three days of street clashes in Constantinople?" Constantine ✍ 16:01, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"Opposed" is a good suggestion. Incorporating the context into the hook certainly does the job, but the hook becomes a little too long and tedious for my liking. I like "was defeated" better, but I wouldn't say no to the suggestion which includes the context. Here's my preferred wording:
If you're fine with that (or prefer the longer version, up to you), I can give you a  :) AGF is because p. 499 of Treadgold is not in the Google Books preview for me, and the three days of fighting thing is not in Kazhdan. — Toдor Boжinov — 16:51, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 is fine by me. Cheers, Constantine ✍ 16:53, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As promised! :) — Toдor Boжinov — 17:19, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rebecca Nolin

Created by 90.221.202.90 (talk). Nominated by Strange Passerby (talk) at 07:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wallace Turner

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Nominated by Aboutmovies (talk) at 06:57, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Sourcing and length for article and hook have been verified. The link in the article to the obit in the LA Times that supported the hook was not working but has already been corrected while verifying the article. Alansohn (talk) 18:24, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Electromyrmococcus

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 00:30, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The ref says that the fossils "represent the oldest definitive record of ant-homopteran symbiosis" this is more interesting IMO than it just being the first record of symbiosis between mealybugs and Acropyga - can an ALT hook be made with this instead, or do you consider this to be too speculative? (The current hook is verified) Smartse (talk) 15:32, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is that almost all entomologists have abandoned the term "Homoptera" so that creates the problem of if we keep Homoptera its an outdated and inaccurate hook, but if we change Homoptera to Sternorrhyncha are we stepping over into OR? --Kevmin § 15:41, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I'm not sure if that would be OR or not but as there is some doubt it's best just to stick with your hook. Smartse (talk) 16:27, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bill McKown

Navy officer in white uniform

Created/expanded by Rlevse (talk). Self nom at 23:15, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Bhutan-Nepal relations

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 23:04, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Someday Soon (Ian Tyson song)

Created by TenPoundHammer (talk). Nominated by TenPoundHammer (talk) at 22:24, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Bud Ogden

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 21:49, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- boths hooks are good. Dincher (talk) 21:54, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't suppose it'd be possible to expand Ralph Ogden enough to be viable for a multi-hook nomination? If not, no worries. GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 18:49, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How much more expansion does he need? If it's not too much I can give it a stab. Jrcla2 (talk) 21:41, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I added some information about his high school career and his time with a professional German team. Is the article now long enough to double-DYK? Jrcla2 (talk) 23:12, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Portuguese-Mamluk naval war

Created/expanded by Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Nominated by Per Honor et Gloria (talk) at 21:48, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Finless sleeper ray

5x expanded by User:Yzx (talk). Self nom at 21:22, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John Durkin (footballer)

Created by ChrisTheDude (talk). Self nom at 21:03, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Amir Mir

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 17:24, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ADEOS II (satellite)

  • ... that the ADEOS II satellite, which cost 70 billion Yen (US$570 million) to develop, failed 10 months into the mission after the solar panel malfunctioned?

Created by Mattgirling (talk). Self nom at 17:14, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Piotrków Trybunalski Castle

Piotrków Trybunalski Castle

Created by BurgererSF (talk) 16:36, 18 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 16:36, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bell Savage Inn

Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 16:28, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article length, history, and source check out. But I found at least one passage that had wording taken directly from the source material without quotation marks [3] (and it's the only section I looked at closely). As a rule of thumb, once one passage is found to be suspect, the whole article needs to be checked. rʨanaɢ (talk) 16:35, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • We AGF in the beginning, but the point is if plagiarism is found somewhere in the article, the whole article is suspect; if you've already slipped in one part of the article, there's no guarantee that you didn't slip elsewhere too; you yourself seem to have now acknowledged that you did this on other passages as well. Trying to deflect scrutiny by wikilawyering doesn't help either. rʨanaɢ (talk) 17:01, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Urban Land Committees, Land titling

Created by Rd232 (talk). Self nom at 15:46, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note - both Urban Land Committees and land titling are new articles I've just created. I think they're eligible to be counted together? (Not that it matters if the statscheck is broken again...) Rd232 talk 15:46, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length and sourcing for both articles and hook have been verified. Each article in the hook must be addressed separately, but each is fine. Note that a comma was added to the hook after the first article, for improved clarity and the country was wikilinked. Alansohn (talk) 19:25, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Society reporting

Serra da Mesa Dam

Created/self-nom by NortyNort (Holla) 11:52, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Translation of the Portuguese source supports the claim in the hook, and length and sourcing of the article are fine. The rankings at List of reservoirs by volume place the dam as the largest in the country, but I have been unable to find an independent online reliable source with any rankings by volume that would put the dam as the largest in Brazil. I think that the article is satisfactory as it stands, but the additional sourcing would only help. Alansohn (talk) 19:32, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gonggar County, Shannan Prefecture, Gonggar Choide Monastery, Gonggar Dzong, Lhasa Gonggar Airport

Lhasa Gonggar Airport

Created by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 11:43, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Itumbiara Dam

Water rushes over a concrete structure blocking a river.

Created/self-nom byNortyNort (Holla) 09:46, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: I also created the Eletrobras Furnas article but afterward, I saw that (Furnas (company)) had existed. The article was not linked to the Eletrobras article, not titled correctly and was not in the proper category so I did not see it. As it was smaller, less structured, needed to be updated and had no references, I reduced it to a redirect. Anyway, I had no idea it existed and I was still curious if I would get credit for both. --NortyNort (Holla) 09:46, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Graham Lovett

  • ... that English footballer Graham Lovett was forced to retire aged 26 years, following two serious motor accidents in less than three years?

Created by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk). Nominated by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) at 06:07, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Leonardo Mascheroni

Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Nominated by Stonemason89 (talk) at 05:22, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

the main proposal is dubious in not presenting the explicit US disclaimer that Venezuela had nothing to do with it. ALT1 is kinda boring. Hence ALT2. Rd232 talk 17:29, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stand of the Swiss Guard


ALT1 ... that during the 1527 sacking of Rome, the the Swiss Guards sacrificed themselves to protect the Pope's retreat? DCI2026 (talk) 03:54, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1958 Pakistani coup d'état

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 03:30, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Peligroso Amor

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 00:37, 18 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 00:37, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 17

Stuxnet

Created by Wikieditoroftoday (talk). Nominated by BorgQueen (talk) at 00:55, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sesame Street media

Created by User:Georgia guy (talk). Nominated by User:Figureskatingfan (talk) at 17:23, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Sorry this has taken so long to get over here; Georgia guy is either shy or busy.

Flight from Folly

Created by Draggleduck (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 18:27, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Plot summaries typically use the subject itself as the primary reference. See any Featured Article on a film or television episode for an example (a quick random selection of italicised entries in the Media section turns up 300 (film), Lage Raho Munna Bhai, and Pride and Prejudice (1995 TV serial), none of which have a single reference in the plot section. Ditto my own FA, noitulovE, plus countless others). It seems slightly odd to apply more severe reference restrictions to DYK than TFA. I do agree with you on the Jean Gillie bit, though. It was just a proposal to allow multiple articles to fit into the same hook, which seems appropriate given all the discussion on backlog at the project's talk page. I'll see about just nominating Gillie separately. GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 17:36, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Peachtree Presbyterian Church

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 18:17, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The article barely scrapes past the 1,500 minimum. I've added sources that support the congregation being the largest Presbyterian church in 2000, and the hook should be modified to state that "as of 2000 (or whatever date is most recently available), Peachtree Presbyterian Church was the largest..." so that the claim is more clearly stated. It might also be helpful to add the size of the congregation in terms of membership to the hook. Alansohn (talk) 20:05, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've added in "by the end of the 20th century", as "by 2000" made it seem like I was referring to the size of the congregation itself. I don't think the hook needs to mention the specific size so long as it's mentioned in the article itself; but then my personal preference with hooks tends towards brevity. GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 21:52, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wag-Aero CUBy

A side-on view of a single-propellor aeroplane in an open field. The plane is painted bright yellow

Created by FlugKerl (talk), Ahunt (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 17:41, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Albanian Revolt of 1844

Created by Aigest (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 17:09, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Catherine Chipembere

Created by MsTingaK (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 14:39, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dzanga-Ndoki National Park, Dzanga-Sangha Special Reserve, Dzanga-Sangha Complex of Protected Areas, Nouabalé-Ndoki National Park, Lobéké National Park

Sangha Tri National Landscape

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 08:57, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Abbott (game designer)

5x expanded by Hi878 (talk). Self nom at 04:16, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Giuseppe Campanari

Oval monochrome head and shoulders photograph of a middle-aged man with dark hair and moustache

Created by Mike hayes (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 20:56, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • date, length and hook check out. The reference for the American premiere of Falstaff from an offline reference book accepted in good faith and is corroborated by my hard copy of Baker's Dictionary of Opera. Voceditenore (talk) 14:22, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Catherine Destivelle

Snow covered mountain in sunlight

  • Comment: The hook is based on the 2nd sentence of the article. Current character count = 1982 (not counting the lists of notable ascents and publications).

5x expanded by Voceditenore (talk). Self nom at 09:36, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Landriano

Created by History6969 (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 16:59, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose one could rephrase it as "...that shortly after the Battle of Landriano, the forces of the French monarch Francis I capitulated entirely and withdrew from the War of the League of Cognac?", which is referenced in the "Background" section, but the essence of the blurb is the same. I prefer the original wording, though. GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 17:29, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

William Harrison Rice, Wananalua Congregational Church

Old School Hall, the oldest standing building in Punahou School

Man in 19th-century suit

Created by W Nowicki (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 01:18, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I was about to nominate it myself with another related one, and then noticed it was already here. A combined hook would be something like:
W Nowicki (talk) 00:45, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say with the backlog, anything that reasonably lets us combine articles into a single nom is appreciated. GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 16:52, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Also uploaded an old picture of him, better than nothing, especially at such a small size W Nowicki (talk) 18:02, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stand Up (Scribe song), Not Many, List of number-one singles from the 2000s (New Zealand)

Created by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 23:37, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NOTE:List of number-one singles from the 2000s (New Zealand) was 5x expanded on 17 September, while Not Many and Stand Up (Scribe song) were created on 19 September.

Nembe Kingdom

  • ... that European traders originally called the Nembe Kingdom "Brass", after the local phrase for turning down a trade?

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 20:43, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Harrisburg, Utah

Created by The Utahraptor (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 22:30, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reference for the floods is offline and taken in good faith. Naming of the town and the grasshoppers checks out, as do length and age. Could almost work on April Fools' Day. Good to go! GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 21:58, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ian David Benardo

Created by Parammon (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 16:48, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Minuscule 482

Description of the image

  • ... that Minuscule 482 (pictured) was written by an inaccurate copyist?

5x expanded by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 12:59, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • New enough, however the number of prose characters only gets up to the required level (6440) if the list of readings are included. These are not prose, and should be bulleted (*). Also, hook is unexplained ('inaccurate copyist' - I think it is meant to be 'an inaccurate copyist' - not sure) and unlinked, and in the article it is still unexplained, and is unreferenced. Adabow (talk · contribs) 00:55, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Manny Martin

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 02:10, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Grilled Cheesus

  • ... that Glee co-creator Ryan Murphy predicts that the upcoming episode "Grilled Cheesus" will be the "most controversial episode of the series to date"?

Created by Yvesnimmo (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 01:48, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Size good, new enough, hook cited, but "most controversial episode of the series to date" doesn't need quote marks. Adabow (talk · contribs) 00:41, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sanok Castle

Sanok Castle

Created by BurgererSF (talk) 16:32, 18 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 16:32, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mickey Mangham

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 06:27, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

W. Scott Wilkinson

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:51, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • That hook is true, but slightly misleading. As it stands, it scans to me that he argued for desegregation, while he actually argued in favour of maintaining segregation. A slight reword, perhaps? GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 14:41, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

HNoMS Mjølner (1868)

A very low freeboard ship with a single large gun turret forward and a funnel amidships. A single-masted sailboat is in the left foreground.

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 00:41, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Reginald Pinney

Portrait of Reginald Pinney

  • ALT1:... that Major-General Sir Reginald Pinney was called a "bun-pinching crank" by one of his soldiers, after he refused to issue his division with a ration of rum?

Created by Shimgray (talk). Self nom at 00:18, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm tempted to go with the first rather than an amalgam of the two - the poem's the hook, and "cheery old card" is the direct reference to Pinney, but it probably needs "slogged up to Arras" to identify the poem for most readers; it's well known, but not usually by the title. YMMV! (I've added an image, as well. PD.) Shimgray | talk | 14:45, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bully Creek (Malheur River)

  • ... that an irrigation dam failed on Bully Creek in 1925, flooding the city of Vale, Oregon with 3 feet (1 m) of water and causing $500,000 in damage?

Created by Little Mountain 5 (talk). Self nom at 23:19, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Francis Land House

two-story Georgian-style brick plantation house

Created/expanded by Rlevse (talk). Self nom at 21:42, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

James Davidson (Kentucky)

Created by Acdixon (talk). Self nom at 20:47, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Samuel South

  • ... that, at age 12, Samuel South and another youth were sent by the women of Fort Boonesborough to call for help in defending the fort, touching off the Battle of Little Mountain?

Created by Acdixon (talk). Self nom at 20:39, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Clarke (missionary)

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Nominated by Billy Hathorn (talk) at 19:08, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

White Stag (clothing)

A lighted sign with the words "White Stag sportswear" and an outline of a leaping stag is illuminated at night

Created by Esprqii (talk). Nominated by Esprqii (talk) at 18:57, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Al LaMacchia

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 18:39, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Color of Crime

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 17:36, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest that this nom and the one for criminal black man be combined into a two-article hook, to help with the backlog. EdChem (talk) 17:06, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Admiralty scaffolding

Created by Gaius Cornelius (talk). Self nom at 17:13, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't meet size requirements. Page has notice questioning notability. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 17:59, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Are you sure? It seems long enough... --Diego Grez (talk) 18:04, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Article is over two thousand characters, and there aren't any problem tags of any sort. It's just been moved to mainspace today, so I see nothing wrong with the content. I've not checked the references, so I can't approve this, but it looks fine to me. Nyttend backup (talk) 18:29, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rally to Restore Sanity

created User:RockMFR contributors User:AMuseoUser:Shrekums User:Zhmort Self nom at 17 September 2010 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that Jon Stewart's Rally to Restore Sanity will go head-to-head with Stephen Colbert's March to Keep Fear Alive?

Darwin's bark spider

A photograph of the web of Darwin's bark spider

  • Comment: I will add a picture from the PLoS paper in a couple of days once I'm at a computer that can crop them.

Created by Steamroller Assault (talk), Smartse (talk). Nominated by Smartse (talk) at 15:53, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length (1900 characters) and references for the hook check out. Note that I changed "largest" to "longest" in the hook as that is what's supported by the ref. If "largest" is used it needs to say "one of the largest" per the ref. Voceditenore (talk) 14:43, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John Logan (pioneer)

  • ... that John Logan, the first treasurer of the U.S. state of Kentucky, at times had to take out personal loans in order to pay the state's obligations?

Created by Acdixon (talk). Self nom at 14:59, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The reference says no more than that Logan "had to borrow money to meet government operating expenses." I don't think that it can be inferred that they represented some sort of personal obligation on his part. Mangoe (talk) 16:18, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I really doubt it would have been mentioned at all if it meant the state had to borrow money; I don't think that's ever been all that extraordinary. Still, as an alternate hook, how about "... that Harry Innes refused to prosecute John Logan for attacking a group of Cherokee in violation of the Treaty of Hopewell, citing Logan's recovery of stolen items from the Cherokee as proof of wrongdoing on their part?" A little awkward, I guess, but maybe it can be cleaned up. Acdixon (talk • contribs • count) 17:06, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

De Garmo Jones

Created by Andrew Jameson (talk). Nominated by Andrew Jameson (talk) at 14:09, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, the article has been updated to ~1800 characters without the block quote. Andrew Jameson (talk) 18:21, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dulit Frogmouth

5x expanded by Maias (talk). Self nom at 13:18, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Racial hoax

  • ... that the case of Charles Stuart, a white man who murdered his wife and pretended that a black man did it, is often cited as an example of a racial hoax?

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 11:23, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ORP Gryf (1944)

Photo showing Polish Navy training and hospital ship ORP Gryf

Created/expanded by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 07:42, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Robert Rompre

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 01:56, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Riggs, Jr.

5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 00:26, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Samuel Thomas Hauser

Samuel Thomas Hauser

  • ALT1:... that in order to spend more time with his business interests, Montana Territorial Governor Samuel T. Hauser (pictured) delegated most of his duties to his personal secretary?

5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 00:19, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on September 16

Godwin-Knowles House

Created by Nyttend (talk), Doncram (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 14:47, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Sourcing: the industrialist bit comes from the second citation to source #2 (first sentence, second paragraph), while the Masonic bit comes from the final citation to the same source (second sentence, final paragraph). Nyttend (talk) 14:48, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length checks out, sourcing is offline and taken on good faith. Nomination is in the wrong section, but still in date, so I'll take the liberty of shifting it there. Good to go! GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 22:04, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Most Hated Family in America

5x expanded by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 04:04, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Franklin D. Roosevelt Four Freedoms Park

Created by DVD R W (talk), AMuseo (talk). Nominated by AMuseo (talk) at 19:24, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

H. R. Stevens House

A white house with pointed gray roofs and a front porch behind evergreen trees and shrubs. There is a stone retaining wall in front, at the bottom of the image.

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 06:03, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unforgiven (2001)

Created by Richard "Wrestler" Lopez (talk). Nominated by GaryColemanFan (talk) at 16:15, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Meyrick Helmet

bronze helmet with peak

Created by BabelStone (talk). Self nom at 00:00, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Micky Flanagan

Created by January (talk). Self nom at 19:05, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

anything more interesting? — Rlevse • Talk • 00:21, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Xerochrysum bracteatum

pink flower

  • ... that golden-flowered Australian native daisy Xerochrysum bracteatum was developed into a wide variety of colours in Arnstadt, Germany in the 1850s?

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 14:17, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Bideford Bay

View over Bideford Bay, looking north-eastwards from Clovelly towards Baggy Point

Created by Geopersona (talk). Nominated by Ghmyrtle (talk) at 13:41, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good spot. This states "largest in England", but this states "one of the largest in Britain". There are refs for either, but it may be safest to go for:
ALT:" ... that the coastline of Bideford Bay (pictured) incorporates both 200-foot high cliffs and one of the largest dune systems in Britain?
Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:37, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SMS Preussen (1903)

5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 03:23, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Princess Marie Elisabeth of Saxe-Meiningen

Princess Marie Elisabeth, c. 1875.

Created by Ruby2010 (talk) 21:22, 16 September 2010 (UTC) [reply]

West Baden Springs Hotel

Interior of the domed atrium at West Baden Springs Hotel

5x expanded by Mgreason (talk). Self nom at 20:57, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Cheiralgia paresthetica

Created by Mangoe (talk). Self nom at 18:25, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Based off of the source text: "Fortythree percent of these subjects were under the influence of alcohol when handcuffed, which in some cases interfered with obtaining a detailed history and physical examination.", I wouldn't say a high proportion hampered the study. Maybe just "hampered by inebriated subjects?"--NortyNort (Holla) 08:32, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

James E. Winner Jr.

The Club, a brightly colored antif-theft device, installed on a car's steering wheel.

  • ... that James E. Winner Jr. created The Club (pictured in use), an anti-theft device for cars that had sold 14 million units by 1994 with the slogan "If you can't steer it, you can't steal it"?

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:57, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1973 shooting in South Jamaica, Queens

Created by e2eamon (talk). Self nom at 14:06, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

alt 1 ... that Clifford Glover was, at the time of the 1973 shooting in South Jamaica, Queens, the youngest person ever killed by an on duty New York city policeman?

Don Randi

Created by Ghmyrtle (talk). Self nom at 13:43, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. Route 2 in Michigan

A metal truss bridge painted green between stone abutments

13.7x expanded by Imzadi1979 (talk). Nominated by Imzadi1979 (talk) at 02:46, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Everything's fine, but I think the hook might be a bit vague ("delayed do to WWII"). Perhaps mention the steel shortages. --E♴ (talk) 14:03, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 15

The distance (boxing)

  • ALT1:... that critics of the 12 round championship distance in boxing contend that deaths from brain injuries are more due to dehydration than the number of rounds fought?
  • Comment: Article was nominated for deletion, then flagged for the Articles Rescue Squadron. Greatly expanded by rescuers before the close of the AfD, defaulting to keep.

5x expanded by Codehydro (talk), Colonel Warden (talk). Nominated by Codehydro (talk) at 03:22, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Valiant efforts but the article was only expanded 3x; 1480 characters (252 words) "readable prose size" on 9 September edit prior to expansion. 4472 characters on 20 September version I just checked. --NortyNort (Holla) 09:16, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The auto-length checkers seems not to have taken into account the readable text in {{Template:Quote}}. Nonetheless, I have even more greatly expanded the article, especially with the Speculation regarding change section after reading your comment. Thanks for letting me know. Based on the new section, I've though of another possible hook:

Cross of All Nations

Created by Eli+. Self nom at 21:29, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I expanded the body a bit, it is now over 1500 characters, added an infobox + some fixes, thank you.Eli+ 17:01, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Criminal black man

  • ... that Linda G. Tucker wrote that portrayals of criminal black men perpetuate the view that "a nigger is not a person so much as a form of behaviour"?

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 20:49, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest that this nom and the one for The Color of Crime be combined into a two-article hook, to help with the backlog. EdChem (talk) 17:08, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I resist this suggestion. I like this hook just as it is and they refer to different things, one a book, the other a stereotype. Christopher Connor (talk) 18:44, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mafeking Mooch

  • ... the Mafeking Mooch was an affected style of walking performed by some British men to convey the impression they had suffered an injury during the celebrated Siege of Mafeking?

Created by Linda Peston (talk). Nominated by De728631 (talk) at 20:34, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Poorly cited - only two citations from one source. The main paragraph describing the "mooch" is not cited at all. Citation used at end of last paragraph makes it unclear how much of paragraph uses that for a citation. Aren't there any other references that also could be used? I modified (shortened) hook. Should time period also be added to hook? Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 00:29, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I had first added the time period to the hook but that made it too long. And if two references from a reliable source are insufficient for an article of that length it only confirms my point of view that inline referencing is really overrated on WP. De728631 (talk) 18:11, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The time period is familiar in the UK and South Africa and it would certainly count as standard "global" general knowledge compared to the background knowledge (usually US-centric) required for many DYKs... You could drop the "some British men" though. Le Deluge (talk) 23:52, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

linaclotide

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 13:55, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1926 Chatham Cup

  • ... that three of the four semi-final teams in New Zealand's 1926 Chatham Cup knockout soccer competition represented mental hospitals?

5x expanded by Grutness (talk). Self nom at 10:41, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

PS - the article's pretty rough'n'ready, so if this fails I won't be too upset :) Unfortunately the only information about the early years of the competition are from old newspaper columns - no-one at the time seems to have thought that keeping the records was worthwhile :/ Grutness...wha?
  • ah well. A shame - since I've been expanding it from zero by increments when I've had time (it takes hours to find the smallest fact, unfortunately). And it did seem a fascinating fact. But yeah, most of the expansion's been on the results. Grutness...wha? 23:56, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 14

1990–91 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 13:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

comment whilst it is nice to get an article in the DYK section, it is making a mockery of the process to add similar topics all from the same nom all in one go --Senra (Talk) 15:38, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article does not meet character minimum. Nomader (Talk) 01:07, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1993–94 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team & 1994–95 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 13:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

comment whilst it is nice to get an article in the DYK section, it is making a mockery of the process to add similar topics all from the same nom all in one go --Senra (Talk) 15:37, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1995–96 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 13:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

comment whilst it is nice to get an article in the DYK section, it is making a mockery of the process to add similar topics all from the same nom all in one go --Senra (Talk) 13:41, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not expanded by x5 in 5 days Victuallers (talk) 16:43, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is this a new rule being applied. It is quite common to notify someon that their article is not long enough and request expansion, which commonly occurs after day 5.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have seen it happen, but I always assumed it was for inexperienced DYK'ers and that we were being generous. How long do you think the current process allows this to happen? You seem to imply above that you realise that there is a limit. Can you explain your understanding or how flexible this rule is? Victuallers (talk) 21:41, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It has always been my experience that whenever I have created an article and nominate it before making 1500 chars or 5x, they give me a reminder (almost always after 5 days is up) and then I expand the article. None have ever been rejected if I have done so while the date is still in play and Sept 14 is still in play. In fact, Sept 12 is still in play. Basically, you have until all other hooks from that date and older have been resolved. If you are still short then rejecting on legnth is appropriate. There is no written rule about this, but that is the commonly applied rule. Since September 14 articles are still being considered and mine are now up to snuff, they are now supposed to be marked as acceptable and ready for use.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:39, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. I may be offline for the next 24 hours starting in about 15 or 20 minutes. I apologize that I did not further condense my noms, but 6 of the 9 are in multis already. I do not oppose multis, I am just pressed by family obligations this week.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:42, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Unfortunately, this was not within limit before September 19th, which was when it would have qualified for new article status if it had at least 1500 characters. This article would then have to qualify under 5x, and it failed to do so-- feel free to dispute this on the talk page. Nomader (Talk) 01:12, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1997–98 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 13:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

comment whilst it is nice to get an article in the DYK section, it is making a mockery of the process to add similar topics all from the same nom all in one go --Senra (Talk) 13:41, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • How does the PDF reference that's cited for the hook give that information at all? All the pages listed show are Michigan's rankings at various times during the year-- at no point does it state how many times Michigan beat certain ranks. Is it maybe on a different page? Nomader (Talk) 01:15, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1991–92 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team & 1992–93 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 13:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

comment whilst it is nice to get an article in the DYK section, it is making a mockery of the process to add similar topics all from the same nom all in one go --Senra (Talk) 13:41, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Insufficient expansion. First article has only been expanded by ~3.7x (4660 vs 1261 on September 8). Second article has only been expanded by ~3.9x (3891 vs 1004 on September 8). --Allen3 talk 16:50, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

expansion too late - x5 in 5 days Victuallers (talk) 16:46, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Again. Are you making up a new rule?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:36, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1996–97 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team & 1998–99 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 13:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

comment whilst it is nice to get an article in the DYK section, it is making a mockery of the process to add similar topics all from the same nom all in one go --Senra (Talk) 13:41, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why not combine all six of these articles into one hook? A sextuple-barreled hook would work better than six single hooks on almost identical topics. Stonemason89 (talk) 14:41, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, we have quite a backlog right now, and we need to save space wherever possible. Gatoclass (talk) 05:38, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Agree - this is getting ridiculous now. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:30, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The overuse of Michigan Wolverines DYK hooks is already being noticed elsewhere. Personally, I think these should be rejected on that basis. I know Tony means well, and is doing this for points in the WikiCup, but seriously, it's time to find other topics to write and expand. Resolute 16:41, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We don't reject hooks just on the basis that there have been "too many" on the same subject. However, I think it would be a good idea for Tony to submit multis in such situations to help us deal with the backlog. Gatoclass (talk) 03:52, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I certainly heavily contest rejecting for that sort of unacceptable reason. However, I would like to offer a hearty apology. My wikitime is somewhat limited by family commitments this week. I am attempting to round out these articles and expanded all of them a bit today. Not sure which ones are still too short, but I am going to attempt to expand these a bit more over the next two days.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:56, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Apology not accepted. I am finding it very hard to assume good faith here when, by submitting six articles in one day for vanity reasons, you are spoiling DYK for other editors and readers! I feel you should have spread these submission over six days or, as others have said, combine the articles into fewer hooks --Senra (Talk) 15:38, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Senra, I think it's important to assume good faith here-- people have every right to send in as many articles as they want in however much time as they please so long as the articles meet the criteria and the hooks are mostly interesting. That said, finding a way to combine these hooks into one or two nice multis would be most appreciated, Tony, per the backlog right now. Nomader (Talk) 18:25, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I second Nomader's opinion on this. By its very rules, there is only a 5-day window to make the nominations (with possible exceptions) and unless the nomination is made in that timeframe, the only way to make it later is a 5x expansion. Well, if the article has already been expanded 5x, you'd really ask for a 25x expansion at some point if the previous, and really only, window of opportunity is missed. Some article topics can't be expanded 5x at a later date. Senra, for whatever reasons you ascribe to Tony's actions, they are still working to improve the encyclopedia here. Just because the six nominations were made on the same day (since the six articles were created/expanded on the same day) doesn't mean they have to be run on the Main Page on the same day. We update four times a day, and the hooks could be run every other day to space them out further. Yes, it would be nice to combine them if possible, but cut us some slack. Will I be questioned next for my four current nominations on roadways in Michigan, even though each creation or expansion was made on different days, and thus appears in different date sections on this page? Imzadi 1979 → 18:38, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I would suggest there is no problem with the nominations having been made, and we shouldn't question that they were made in good faith, but they should be approved [only] as a combined nom, and ideally Tony should help with arranging that (other reviewers have gone to some trouble arranging a combined nom for some of Tony's many other recent nominations) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:27, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There is no rule, Tony. But listen to the consensus above. I'm hoping that we don't need to create a rule to prevent one user going even further and submitting (I exaggerate) 100 articles on the same subject. Victuallers (talk) 08:09, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
First of all be thankful that I spread my 50 articles over two or three weeks or so rather than all at once. Keep in mind that all of the top three scorers in the WP:CUP are doing the same type of articles for the most part. One does mushroom articles, one does battleships and you have me doing Michigan sports. I do them in waves because when researching teams of one era there is a lot of redundant research that can be done more efficiently at one time. People ganging up against Michigan articles is unfair unless you intend to reject mushroom and battleship articles too for being too redundant.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'd have the same reaction if someone broke down the history of a a single mushroom or battleship into different periods of its history. Am I to believe that 100 is not an exaggeration! and that next month the surviving cup people will be submitting even more? Maybe we do need a rule. Victuallers (talk) 22:54, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A quick check of this year's WikiCup results shows Tony has claimed credit for 120 DYKs (10 in round 1, 8 in round 2, 19 in round 3, 43 in round 4, and 40 so far in the final round). They have not all been on Michigan Wolverines men's basketball teams, annual team articles for Oklahoma Sooners football teams and Michigan Wolverines football teams have were included in the mix. --Allen3 talk 23:28, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 13

Kunzea sp. Wadbilliga

green small leaves

  • Comment: just thought it was a funny name

Created by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 02:27, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • To clarify - Badja carpet is a horticulturally selected form of Kunzea sp. Wadbilliga which has not been officially described in botanical literature but is related to Kunzea capitata. I'll reread and try to rewrite if it is unclear. Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:13, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Special occasion holding area

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

For October 1

Wait for me, Daddy

soldiers marching down the street with a boy chasing his father

new by Esemono (talk). Self nom at 08:30, 05 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

and Canadian picture is OK too. Victuallers (talk) 15:54, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For 31 October, Hallowe'en

  • The 2010 Halloween collection has started early. My interpretation of whats happening is ... 1. Move your hook to the bottom of the page (ie here) 2. You may get some more macabre, funny etc suggestions for a hook and it should get DYKtick'ed. 3. Then after its been there about 24 hours or so it gets moved off to the dedicated page. 4. Then about three or four days before Oct 31 we sort out the 40 or so hooks into "8"s (so they are ready to load on the 36 hours or so that is Halloween internationally). 5. We do the awards and 6 .... and please help with all of this. It only works if we all do a bit Victuallers (talk) 08:22, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Thyreophora cynophila

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Nominated by Smartse (talk) at 21:46, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ben Cooper, Inc.

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 01:07, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Only in places where there's a JC Penney. Trust me, that subclause just doesn't work outside the US, and to be honest it's redundant, it could just be struck out entirely. Or as Victuallers says, the "high priest" version is a ready-made alternative that needs no knowledge of US culture, and thus is a better hook. WTGR Tim, you really need to think a bit more globally - 50% of en.wiki users are outside the US, and that proportion is growing. Le Deluge (talk) 08:54, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Devils River (Wisconsin)

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 13:47, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • ALT1.. that two U.S. Presidents nearly lost their lives in the Devils River?
Just an idea Victuallers (talk) 07:40, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For January 1, 2011, Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation

Expanded and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This nomination is a bit of a special case. I originally nominated Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on August 3 following a 5x expansion (see discussion above under #Articles created/expanded on August 3). Everyone accepted that it met the DYK criteria but the nomination was derailed by a political dispute over timing. I've put forward a compromise at User talk:Jimbo Wales#Compromise proposal, which involves passing this DYK now but scheduling its appearance on January 1, 2011, which is 60 years to the day since the seal was first used. This proposal has been generally welcomed so I'm putting it forward here for formal consideration. I'm aware that the timeframe is somewhat longer than would be usual for scheduled DYKs, but in the circumstances I think a some flexibility would be justified. I've put forward two possible hooks: the original one as proposed earlier, and a new alternative tying the DYK in more directly with the date. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification: Are we nominating this (with whichever hook) sans image as you initially suggested on Jimbo's talk page?
    --K10wnsta (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Appended: I see that you removed the image from inclusion in the original nomination, so I'll assume this post-dated nomination would not include the image either. However, this necessitates further clarification:
Are we excluding the image from this DYK solely because of the recent interaction with the FBI?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In effect yes, but in my view it's a necessary evil if we're to reach a satisfactory compromise on this issue. -- ChrisO (talk) 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • - Tentative Even if the motivation behind qualifying this article for DYK was questionable, I think you already achieved not just a satisfactory compromise, but a completely valid and justifiable use for it. In fact, it's use is so valid, refusing to use the image for no other reason than the recent hoobajoo with the FBI is blatantly (chilled) censorship...and I just can't get behind that. If we're going to censor it, we need to go whole hog or don't go at all.
    Could we put it up for 'On This Day' to avoid reasoning for exclusion of the image?
    --K10wnsta (talk) 01:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • No opinion on whether to feature on the future date; however, it would be better if this hook didn't remain on the suggestions page for the intervening months, as it is bound to attract further discussion and the page is unwieldy enough as it is. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Espresso's suggestion may be useful for more than just making this page leaner. A delay in nomination would lend to better perspective for those establishing consensus. In other words, removing it from discussion for a couple months would also put some time between recent events and the article (and hopefully image) being contemplated for a main page feature (unless such a delay would disqualify it from use in DYK section).
--K10wnsta (talk) 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This hook should not "disappear" for a few months. It is far better to leave it here to enable a wide input from editors on the issue. I think this is a good compromise that involves common sense, the proposal and special treatment of the timescale fitting nicely under WP:IAR. Mjroots (talk) 13:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I do not support 1 January 2011. The DYK section is for new articles. There are exceptions like April Fools and Halloween; I do not see the point of making every day of the year a possible exception. Geschichte (talk) 20:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Anniversary or not, a four-month wait at DYK is an overkill. The point of DYK is to present new or newly expanded articles, not to present "on this day". By then this article will be more than four months old. If this line of though is going to be followed, DYK is going to end up in a mess. The length of this entry is plain evidence for why keeping things around for almost five months is not a good idea. Arsenikk (talk) 13:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • per IAR. I would count this as a valid use of IAR. This could have gone up for today. The only reason it isn't going up is for political reasons. I disagree with Jimbo and others on that matter and think we should run it now, but there is no need to reject it entirely on that basis. NW (Talk) 03:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support' as this would have been promoted in the usual time window if not for the decision to shelve it until the political heat was off. To kill it now because a delay was agreed to would be an egregious abuse of trust. - Dravecky (talk) 09:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See also

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