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Candidate entries
Articles created/expanded on September 24
Sophia Fresh
- ... that girl group Sophia Fresh's debut single, "What It Is", impressed Rihanna so much that she wished the song was hers?
5x expanded by Cornucopia (talk). Self nom at 08:24, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
- Please note that previous revisions, although possibly containing more text, were in my sandbox and contained junk from the original, deleted version. Corn.u.co.pia • Disc.us.sion 08:28, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
NGC 3109
- ... that NGC 3109 (pictured) might be the smallest spiral galaxy in the Local Group?
5x expanded by Reyk (talk). Self nom at 05:21, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Neuilly sa mère !
- ... that the 2009 French comedy Neuilly sa mère ! revisits themes of social inequality that were explored in the 1988 French comedy Life is a Long Quiet River?
Created by Rjanag (talk). Self nom at 04:24, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
- (the comparison between the two films is made in refs 1–3.) rʨanaɢ (talk) 04:25, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
George Munroe
- ... that George Munroe is a retired American professional basketball player, Navy veteran, Rhodes scholar, lawyer, and former CEO of Phelps Dodge Corporation?
Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 02:53, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Battle of Nui Le
- ... that the Battle of Nui Le was the last major battle fought by the Australian army during the Vietnam War.
5x expanded by Newm30 (talk). Self nom at 01:07, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 23
Petra Noskaiová
- ... that mezzo-soprano Petra Noskaiová recorded alto parts with La Petite Bande in Bach cantatas such as Weinen, Klagen, Sorgen, Zagen, BWV 12?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 07:04, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Chord Overstreet
- ... that actor and musician Chord Overstreet was named after the musical term of the same name?
Created by Yvesnimmo (talk). Nominated by Fetchcomms (talk) at 02:08, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Ji-Man Choi
- ... that professional baseball player Ji-Man Choi won the Arizona League Most Valuable Player Award after the 2010 season?
Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 00:32, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Dead Timber State Recreation Area
- ... that according to local legend Dead Timber State Recreation Area in Nebraska is named for the "dead timbers" that were left over after a wildfire?
Created by Dincher (talk). Self nom at 00:05, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
List of celebrity guest appearances on Neighbours
- ... that André Rieu's guest appearance in the Australian soap opera Neighbours was named the weirdest ever storyline in an online poll?
- ALT1:...that musician Lily Allen made a guest appearance on Australian soap opera Neighbours in 2009?
5x expanded by JuneGloom07 (talk). Self nom at 00:03, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Mangia
- ... that in the extremely rare 1983 video game Mangia, the player controls a boy whose mother attempts to feed him so much pasta that his stomach will explode?
Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 22:02, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- great work! I suggest adding the screen shot to the nomination if it is eligible. Very interesting little slice of video game history. Dincher (talk) 01:27, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks! Unfortunately, I can't think of any images that wouldn't be fair-use. 28bytes (talk) 02:34, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Church of All Souls, Bolton
- ... that the nave of the Church of All Souls, Bolton, Greater Manchester (pictured) contains no pillars, making it one of the widest unsupported parish churches in England?
5x expanded by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 20:46, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
six articles
- ... that the Bulqizë, Kalimashi 1, Kalimashi 3, Krasta, Qaf-Buall and Vlahna mines have combined chromium reserves of 1.6% of the world's total?
Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 20:01, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Church of St Demetrius, Patalenitsa; Patalenitsa
- ... that the medieval Church of St Demetrius in Patalenitsa, southwestern Bulgaria, may have been rediscovered thanks to a thunderbolt striking a cherry tree?
Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Nominated by TodorBozhinov (talk) at 19:57, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Grove Church Cemetery
- ... that Grove Church Cemetery has been called "a cemetery for the living"?
- ALT1:... that Robert Gardner's metallic coffin was found opened, removed from the shelf upon which it sat in a granite, iron barred and locked vault at Grove Church Cemetery, and no one was sure why?
5x expanded by Theornamentalist (talk). Nominated by Theornamentalist (talk) at 19:47, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Early life and career of Julius Caesar
- ... that at age 25 Julius Caesar was captured by pirates?
Created by RomanHistorian (talk). Self nom at 17:36, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Actually I did know that :) So many exciting alternatives here, though;
- ALT1 ... that for a period of Julius Caesar's early career, he was not permitted to touch a horse, sleep three nights outside his own bed or one night outside Rome, or look upon an army?
- --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:53, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that during Julius Caesar's early career, he gave up his betrothal to the woman he'd been engaged to since boyhood, in order to become a priest?
- (this ALT2 only any use if it's OK for a front page fact to be sourced to Suetonius) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:09, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT3 ... that in Julius Caesar's early career, he spent so long at the court of King Nicomedes that Plutarch, Suetonius and Cassius Dio mention rumours of an affair between the two men?
- --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:15, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT4 ... ... that at age 25 Julius Caesar was captured by pirates, but after being ransomed, chased them, captured them, and had them crucified?
- --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:23, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, ALT4 is nice. Drmies (talk) 19:29, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- About the article, though, if this is appropriate here. First, there is no wikilink for the man himself in the article that I could see. Second, I wonder if there is precedent for forking out the early part of the life of a person. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 19:34, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Yes it should have a wikilink to the main article. At least some sentences (but not paragraphs) seem to be identical to material already in the main article. (But, that may be partly because they are simply using the same sources.) However, there seems to be concensus (or at least a biumvirate :) on the main article's talk page that a separate article on the early life is the way to go. I agree with what's said there - the main article is, appropriately enough, written in a style much more approachable to the layman, whereas this one, by contrast, goes into more detail (and seems intended to be the first of a series I guess.)
- Another ALT to add, if someone wants to give it a try, is Caesar telling his pirate captors that the ransome they are demanding for him, is much too small. But I forget how well it's sourced and it sounds oddly familiar somehow (other people adopted the same approach later?) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:14, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- I corrected the wikilink issue. I like ALT3 the best. It would probably draw the most attention. And Caesar told his captors that they should be able to get a ransom of at least double what they first wanted.RomanHistorian (talk) 03:05, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Jim Cardwell
- ... that Jim Cardwell was the secretary of the Melbourne Football Club for 25 years?
Created by Jenks24 (talk). Self nom at 14:59, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- A lot of sports club officials serve for a fairly long time (or indeed a very long time), so this is really not all that eye-catching. Just to try to add a bit more interest and variety, how about;
- ALT1 ... that Jim Cardwell was the secretary of the Melbourne Football Club for 25 years, but also ran an engineering business and had previously been a soldier and a successful debater?
- ALT2 ... that Jim Cardwell gave up his engineering business to become full-time secretary for Melbourne Football Club, a post he held for 25 years?
- --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:47, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the suggestions, they're both better than what I had originally. But how about either:
- ALT3 ... that Jim Cardwell was part of the Melbourne Football Club's "backbone of steel", which contributed to the club winning six premierships in 14 years?
- ALT4 ... that Jim Cardwell was the secretary of the Melbourne Football Club for 25 years and he became known as the "Prince of Secretaries"?
- Jenks24 (talk) 07:20, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
List of World Heritage Sites in Peru
- ... that the Inca sites of Machu Picchu and Cusco were the first World Heritage Site of Peru in 1983?
Created by Grsz11 (talk). Nominated by Grsz11 (talk) at 14:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Count of the Stable
- ... that the word "constable" derives from the Byzantine office of comes stabuli or Count of the Stable, responsible for the horses and pack animals intended for use by the army and the imperial court?
Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 13:49, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Wat Pasantidhamma
- ... that there are only three Thai Buddhist temples in Virginia, including Wat Pasantidhamma?
Created by Rlevse (talk). Self nom at 10:06, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Alt1:... that Wat Pasantidhamma was the first Thai Buddhist temple in the Tidewater (southeastern) region of Virginia?
- Better wording: "... that Wat Pasantidhamma is one of only three Thai Buddhist temples in Virginia?"
American Honda Motor Company
- ... that the American Honda Motor Company (headquarters pictured) was Honda's first U.S. subsidiary and the first Japanese automaker to build cars in the U.S.?
Created by Jeff Bedford (talk). Nominated by Zunaid (talk) at 08:17, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
The article was created on 17 September (not 23 September). It should be moved lower.Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 16:39, 23 September 2010 (UTC)- Check the history. It was only moved from user space to main space today. Zunaid 16:44, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- My mistake, I think the article is good. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 17:36, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Linn Duachaill
- ... that one of the best-preserved Viking settlements in Europe, Linn Duachaill, was founded at the same time as Dublin, in the 840s, and was unearthed and identified in September 2010?
Created by Drmies (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 04:31, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Robert Twycross
- ... that Robert Twycross is best known as a pioneer of the hospice movement during the 1970s?
Created by Hordesofkreuser (talk). Nominated by Mono (talk) at 01:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Hildegard Laurich
- ... that contralto Hildegard Laurich performed in Bach's cantata for Ratswahl (inauguration of the Leipzig town council) Gott, man lobet dich in der Stille, BWV 120?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 07:04, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 19:12, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 22
Richard Cantillon
- ... that Richard Cantillon's treatise, Essai, was considered by economist William Stanley Jevons to be the "cradle of political economy"?
- Comment: Expanded over a period of two days. Originally, the article was at about 8kB in length, however it was deleted for plagiarism. At the time I began editing it it was therefore essentially non-existent. I expanded it to over 40kB, so either way it should meet the length requirement.
5x expanded by Catalan (talk). Nominated by Catalan (talk) at 04:19, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Noosa National Park
- ... that Noosa National Park is the most visited national park in Australia?
5x expanded by Shiftchange (talk). Self nom at 02:52, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Actua
- ... that Canadian charity Actua, which delivers educational programs to young people, received the 2009 Ontario Trillium Foundation Minister's Award?
Created by KT44 (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 18:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Gros-Mécatina, Quebec
- ... that the Gros-Mécatina (pictured) on the Gulf of Saint Lawrence, in Quebec, Canada, has excellent crab, lobster, and scallop fishing grounds?
5x expanded by P199 (talk). Nominated by P199 (talk) at 16:47, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Soulless (novel), Changeless (novel), Blameless (novel)
- ... that the "Parasol Protectorate" steampunk books Soulless, Changeless, and Blameless by Gail Carriger will be adapted as graphic novels by Yen Press?
Created by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 11:24, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Murray Sayle
- ... that Australian Murray Sayle, known for his "rat-like cunning", was a war correspondent in Vietnam, tracked Che Guevara through the Bolivian jungle, climbed Mt. Everest and sailed solo across the Atlantic?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 01:05, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
SweeTango (apple)
- ... that the SweeTango "dance" refers to a long and satisfying finish on the palate, not to a romantic dance?
Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 23:14, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that the SweeTango is a new variety of apple, not a romantic dance? --Doug Coldwell talk 23:25, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 16:41, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Darius Dhlomo
- ... that in the 1950s, black South African Darius Dhlomo was a boxing champion, professional football player, a jazz musician, and a political activist for the African National Congress?
Created by Uncle G (talk), Sillyfolkboy (talk). Nominated by Sillyfolkboy (talk) at 22:23, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Alt 1:... that black South African footballer Darius Dhlomo went missing on his debut match for Dutch club Heracles Almelo because he wasn't aware that blacks and whites were allowed in the same changing room? Dutch reference verified (I speak Afrikaans). Zunaid 14:25, 23 September 2010 (UTC) UPDATE: I found an English reference so have added that instead and moved the Dutch reference back to its original place in the article. Zunaid 14:49, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Inocybe maculata
- ... that consumption of the poisonous mushroom Inocybe maculata (pictured) could lead to death by respiratory failure?
Created by J Milburn (talk). Self nom at 18:05, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
3 Deewarein
- ... that Nagesh Kukunoor's 3 Deewarein was filmed at the then defunct and now demolished Musheerabad prison in Hyderabad, India?
5x expanded by Mspraveen (talk). Self nom at 17:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Joyce Beber
- ... that Leona Helmsley hired Joyce Beber to promote her hotels and fired her four times, including once after Helmsley was convicted for income tax evasion and blamed Beber for having raised her profile?
Created by Bongomatic (talk), Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:02, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Clarence Seamans
- ... that Clarence Seamans was the president of the largest typewriter manufacturer in the world?
Created by Elcobbola (talk). Self nom at 15:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Ned Sutton
- ... that Ned Sutton was the Melbourne Football Club's inaugural captain, when they were the co-founders of the Victorian Football League in 1897?
Created by Jenks24 (talk). Self nom at 14:51, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1:... that Ned Sutton was the Melbourne Football Club's inaugural captain in the Victorian Football League?
- Comment: If it's considered that the hook looks better shorter.
Paycheck Fairness Act
- ... that President Obama called the Paycheck Fairness Act "a common-sense bill" that would help end persistent male–female income disparity in which American women earn 77 cents for every dollar men earn?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 14:43, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
St Andrew's Church, East Heslerton
- ... that the four statues of saints on the tower of St Andrew's Church, East Heslerton, (pictured) were originally intended for the north porch of Bristol Cathedral?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 14:36, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
HIP Petrohemija
- ... that HIP Petrohemija is the largest petrochemical company in Serbia?
Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 14:21, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Hornby Lighthouse
- ... that Hornby Lighthouse (pictured), on South Head, New South Wales, Australia, was named by Sir William Denison after the family of his wife Caroline, daughter of Admiral Sir Phipps Hornby?
- ALT1:... that Hornby Lighthouse (pictured), on South Head, New South Wales, Australia, was known as the "Lower Light", to distinguish it from Macquarie Lighthouse, the "Upper Light"?
- Comment: I wanted to add Governor of New South Wales, after William Denison, but it would be two lengthy so I removed it.
5x expanded by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 11:24, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Flags (album)
- ... that Brooke Fraser described her third album, Flags as "a graduation"?
Created by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 09:39, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Kenneth Strong
- ... that Kenneth Strong was Britain's first Director General of Intelligence?
5x expanded by Hawkeye7 (talk) 09:14, 22 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 09:13, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Length, sourcing and expansion of article and hook have been verified. Alansohn (talk) 12:53, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Beaufort Sea
- ... that there is a border dispute between Canada and US over a part of the Beaufort Sea?
- Comment: See "Border dispute" and ref. 6. Materialscientist (talk) 06:28, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 06:28, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
By my count prose not quite expanded 5 fold: original character count about 2400, current count about 10880. Good additions though! -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 17:05, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hm. DYK check confirms 5x expansion and says the preexpansion versions are below 2k of prose. Materialscientist (talk) 23:21, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- You could push it a little higher by mentioning the Amauligak project. Uncle G (talk) 23:52, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- And if that doesn't get you much, there's stuff to be had from doi:10.1029/2009GL041434, and the reports (such as this) based upon it. Uncle G (talk) 23:57, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Added bits on both topics, that pushed the prose count to above 12k. Materialscientist (talk) 06:07, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hm. DYK check confirms 5x expansion and says the preexpansion versions are below 2k of prose. Materialscientist (talk) 23:21, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
HMS Hector (1862)
- ... that the British ironclad HMS Hector was assigned as Queen Victoria's guard ship nearly every summer between 1868 and 1886 when she was in residence at Osborne House on the Isle of Wight?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 05:21, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
article expansion and hook length have been verified. Sourcing is all off line and is accepted in good faith. Alansohn (talk) 17:53, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
The Butcher, the Chef and the Swordsman
- ... that The Butcher, the Chef and the Swordsman was the first Chinese film to premiere at Midnight Madness at the Toronto International Film Festival?
Created by Andrzejbanas (talk). Nominated by Andrzejbanas (talk) at 03:24, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 21
Manuel Ascencio Padilla, Padilla, Bolivia
- ... that Padilla, Bolivia is named in honor of Manuel Ascencio Padilla who was referred to as "a hero with the soul of a child and the heart of a lion"?
Created by Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 03:46, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Pascalization
- ... that an early use of pascalization in the United States was the treatment of guacamole, extending its shelf life tenfold?
Created by Fetchcomms (talk). Self nom at 02:19, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Brett Beavers
- ... that Brett Beavers was the bandleader and bass player for both Martina McBride and Lee Ann Womack?
Created by J04n (talk). Self nom at 01:21, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Miss Albany Diner
- ... that the Miss Albany Diner (pictured), an Albany, New York architectural landmark, was used as a set for the 1987 film Ironweed?
Created by Voceditenore (talk). Self nom at 13:33, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- While "Lil's Diner" may be the name used for the NRHP nom, the place has been known as "Miss Albany Diner" since the late 1980s and few people call it (or would recognize it) as Lil's. I just moved the article to Miss Albany Diner and consequently changed the name used in the DYK nom as well. upstateNYer 22:26, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Fathi Osman
- ... that The New York Times cited as "monumental" the 1997 book Concepts of the Quran: A Topical Reading by Fathi Osman, in which he explained concepts in Islam for non-Muslims?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 12:50, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Bergens TF
- ... that eight gymnasts from the club Bergens TF won medals at the 1912 Summer Olympics?
Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 09:18, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Paul De Villiers
- ... that sound engineer and record producer Paul De Villiers has worked with Yes, Marc Jordan, King Crimson and Mr. Mister, whose number-one hits "Kyrie" and "Broken Wings" he co-produced?
Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 04:50, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Byron Cook
- ... that Texas State Rep. Byron Cook is a leading supporter of maintaining the scenic Texas State Railroad from Rusk to Palestine?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:58, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
World Golf Village
- ... that the World Golf Village is a golf resort near St. Augustine, Florida created to showcase the World Golf Hall of Fame?
5x expanded by Mgreason (talk). Self nom at 01:14, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
CatholicVote.org
- ... that CatholicVote.org's first commercial was a pro-life spot, featured a depiction of President Barack Obama and recorded over 700,000 hits?
Created by BS24 (talk). Nominated by Lionelt (talk) at 22:20, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- ready. Dincher (talk) 01:12, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- For some of us in Europe and other places, a "pro-life spot" would be a place where people plant and nurture trees. Not saying there is anything wrong with the hook, but it may not be as immediately understood as you might think - at least outside the advertising industry, and in some parts of the world. I guess "spot" means "commercial placement", or something like that? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 03:20, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- As the article creator and reviewer are both catholic, there is a potential COI in advertising a catholic website on the wikipedia front page Jebus989✰ 16:01, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Bill Littlejohn
- ... that the work of "animation God" Bill Littlejohn includes Tom and Jerry, A Charlie Brown Christmas and an Oscar-winning short with Dizzie Gillespie debating the possibility of nuclear war?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 20:31, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Verified, although the Gillespie cite is from reference 2, not ref 3 where it is currently sourced. Gatoclass (talk) 05:28, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Lucernaria janetae
- ... that Lucernaria janetae was the first stalked jellyfish found living on a deep sea hydrothermal vent?
Created by Ka Faraq Gatri (talk). Self nom at 17:59, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- The source doesn't appear to support the hook, it only says the habitat is "unusual". Gatoclass (talk) 05:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm. On reflection the hook is best supported from this reference From The Desk of Zelnio: Lucernaria janetae but I'm not sure if it would pass WP:RS being a blog (all be it one that appears to be written by scientists). Anything beyond that is really WP:OR e.g. Collins and Daly's tentative identification of Lutz 1998's population as L. janetae (that paper states that it is "the first time a representative of the class Scyphozoa (Cnidaria) has been encountered in a hydrothermal vent"). Also there's the failure of Collins and Daly to compare L. janetae with other vent dwelling Stauromedusae (something I'd expect given their comparisons with other Stauromedusae that aren't vent dwelling) and the failure of subsequent publications to mention any other named vent dwelling Stauromedusae species - but again it's WP:OR. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 13:11, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that Lucernaria janetae has eight lance-shaped gonads? Smartse (talk) 21:06, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Church of St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, St Mary's Church, Purton, St Andrew's Church, Wanborough
- ... that the parish churches of Ormskirk, Purton and Wanborough are the only churches in England to have both a western tower and a central spire?
Created by Belovedfreak (talk). Self nom at 16:25, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Fântânele-Cogealac Wind Farm
- ... that once completed, the Fântânele-Cogealac Wind Farm will be the largest onshore wind farm in Europe?
5x expanded by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 13:51, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Article and hook length have been verified. The article is well-sourced, but the specific source used to back the hook states that it is "a wind farm which the backers claim is the largest project of its kind in Europe", which makes it seem that the reference is just repeating a claim, rather than having verified it. It's also not clear that the source meets WP:RS. Is there any other reliable and verifiable source that supports the claim or might there be an alternate hook with stronger sourcing? If I read the translation correctly, this source from Adevărul would back the claim, but an English language source would always be preferred. Alansohn (talk) 18:02, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Found an English ref. BineMai 20:56, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- I've reorganised the hook a little. Here's another ref, just wanted to check that this isn't too crystally before ticking it off. Personally I think it is ok as it is half built already. Smartse (talk) 00:27, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Çubuk-1 Dam
- ... that the Çubuk-1 Dam was the first concrete dam constructed in Turkey and recognized as one of the country's top 50 engineering feats?
5x/nom by --NortyNort (Holla) 12:34, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- ready. Dincher (talk) 01:18, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Missa (Bach)
- ... that the six movements of a Missa of Bach, a short mass consisting of Kyrie and Gloria, are parodies of his cantata music?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 07:54, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- ... that the album Amar la Trama by Uruguayan singer-songwriter Jorge Drexler was recorded in just four days?
Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 07:28, 21 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 07:27, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Monte Robbins
- ... that Monte Robbins holds the Michigan Wolverines football records for longest punt at 82 yards and the highest career average for a punter?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:36, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Article and hook length and sourcing have been verified. Alansohn (talk) 19:57, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Gene Swick
- ... that Gene Swick was the first college quarterback to amass more than 8,000 career yards, but was cut by the Cleveland Browns during camp and never played professional football?
Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 04:49, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Length and sourcing verified for article and hook. Alansohn (talk) 20:08, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
HMS Defence (1861)
- ... that the British ironclad HMS Defence damaged her propeller and rudder when she was nearly blown ashore during a gale off Pantelleria in March 1872?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 04:25, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Looks OK. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 17:19, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Empire State
- ... that the true source of New York's official nickname, The Empire State, is not known?
Created by UpstateNYer (talk). Nominated by UpstateNYer (talk) at 03:26, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- ready. Dincher (talk) 01:21, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Cape Parry
- ... that Cape Parry's Thick-billed Murre colony, located in Northwest Territories, Canada, is more isolated than any other murre colony in the world?
Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 03:09, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that Cape Parry's Thick-billed Murre colony is more isolated than any other murre colony in the world? (short version) --Rosiestep (talk) 14:23, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
All good. Prefer the original hook with NWT reference. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 17:15, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Diamond Valley Lake
- ... that construction of the three dams of Diamond Valley Lake was the largest earthworks project in the United States?
5x expanded by Lvi56 (talk). Self nom at 20:03, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
The article was 7,467 characters in length when expansion started and is 9,950 characters now, well short of the 5x minimum. Is there any possibility of substantial further expansion of the article to the 37K it would have to reach per DYK rules? Alansohn (talk) 18:07, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 20
Bill Erickson
- ... that Bill Erickson started the Rockford College men's basketball program and was its first head coach?
Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 04:16, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Frédéric Chopin's illness
- ... that there are several alternative explanations of Frédéric Chopin's illness?
Created by Gregory of nyssa (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 03:23, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Western Cemetery (Portland, Maine)
- ... that when a number of tombs were opened at the Western Cemetery in Portland, Maine, nothing was found inside and no record was was of where the remains went? (this might be a candidate for Halloween?)
Created by Namiba (talk). Nominated by Namiba (talk) at 03:03, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Hodo Sokoli
- ... that Hodo Sokoli, a 19th century Albanian freedom fighter, publicly removed his Ottoman insignia and uniform and put on an Albanian dress?
Created by ZjarriRrethues (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 21:17, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
North Main Street School
- ... that before the construction of North Main Street School (pictured), schoolchildren in Spring Valley, New York, were attending classes in the local fire station?
- Comment: Fivefold text expansion
5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 19:13, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
bacha posh
- ... that a practice in Afghanistan where a daughter in a family without sons is dressed in male clothing and acts as a boy, allowing her to do things she couldn't do as a girl, is called bacha posh?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:44, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Evangelical School of Smyrna
- ... that the Evangelical School of Smyrna was the most important Greek educational institution in İzmir, Turkey, possessing an archaeological museum, a natural science collection and a library?
Created by Alexikoua (talk). Self nom at 11:54, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 18:50, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Thomas Hannum
- ... that Thomas Hannum was named the interm director of the University of Massachusetts Minuteman Marching Band after the sudden death of director George N. Parks?
Created by Ktr101 (talk). Nominated by Ktr101 (talk) at 02:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Is this person notable? I see coverage in one local newspaper, the university website and no inherent notability.--TM 03:11, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Hook fact is not present in article. Article lacks sufficient referencing, especially for a BLP. - Dravecky (talk) 03:26, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
George N. Parks Drum Major Academy
- ... that the George N. Parks Drum Major Academy teaches over three thousand students every year?
Created by Ktr101 (talk). Nominated by Ktr101 (talk) at 01:50, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
At last check, the article was just past 1,200 characters of prose, short of the 1,500 required. It might make more sense to include the material in this article in the parent George N. Parks rather than stretching to create an article about the academy he created. Alansohn (talk) 17:49, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- I'll get on it later today as I know that I can add more material. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 04:05, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
George N. Parks Marching Band Building
- ... that the George N. Parks Marching Band Building was named after George N. Parks, director of the University of Massachusetts Minuteman Marching Band, while he was still alive?
Created by Ktr101 (talk). Nominated by Ktr101 (talk) at 00:30, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Article text appears to contradict hook facts, article is sourced to a single press release, and subject building may not meet WP:GNG. - Dravecky (talk) 03:33, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Donald W. Davis
- ... that as CEO of Stanley Works, Donald W. Davis helped bring the do it yourself home improvement trend to the U.S. and coined the company slogan "Stanley helps you do things right"?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:48, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Ottoman-Mamluk War (1485–1491)
- ... that an Ottoman-Mamluk War (Mamluk cavalry pictured) took place in 1485-1491 between the Ottoman Empire and the Mamluk Sultanate, in the areas of Anatolia and Syria?
Created/expanded by Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Nominated by Per Honor et Gloria (talk) at 13:28, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Leonard Skinner
- ... that The New York Times called Leonard Skinner, the namesake of Lynyrd Skynyrd, "arguably the most influential high school gym teacher in American popular culture"?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:17, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Length and sourcing of article and hook have been verified. Alansohn (talk) 20:02, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Ollie E. Brown
- ... that percussionist Ollie E. Brown has produced or performed on over a hundred singles and albums, including Ray Parker, Jr.'s "Ghostbusters", Michael Jackson's Bad, and the theme from Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo?
5x expanded by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 03:19, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Events of 1807-08
- ... that two rival Ottoman sultans were deposed and killed during the Events of 1807-08?
alt2 = ... that the Janissaries staged their last successful coups against Ottoman sultans during the Events of 1807-08? --> Created by DCI2026 (talk). Self nom at 23:50, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Shirgj Monastery
- ... that when people would get buried within the ruins of the Shirgj Monastery the gravediggers would often encounter old mosaics of the old church?
Created by Sulmues (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 21:32, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- (shorter)... that within the ruins of the Shirgj Monastery in northern Albania the gravediggers would often encounter mosaics from the old church?
- Fine with me. --Sulmues (talk) 22:21, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Length and date are all good, but Google Translate doesn't do a good job on the hook reference, so AFG on that one. Shorter hook is better, though it wouldn't hurt to add "in northern Albania" or something, just to give the reader some context as to where Shirgj is. — Toдor Boжinov — 15:00, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Anina mine and Crivina Power Station
- ... that the Anina mine was the oldest and deepest mine in Romania?
Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 21:27, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- I suggest a double hook with Crivina Power Station:
- ALT1 ... that the Anina mine supplied Crivina Power Station with oil shale?
- I'm not 100% sure if this is correct though as it's not explicitly mentioned in the articles at the moment, can you see if it is mentioned in this ref? If it isn't the original hook needs changing, since it is not the oldest mine, but the longest running operational mine. Smartse (talk) 16:41, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- The ref you supplied indeed states that the power station was supplied with oil shale from Anina. BineMai 17:40, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Added the ref to the Crivina article aswell and i'm going with your ALT. BineMai 17:45, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- The mine article says it "was intended to supply Crivina Power Station" and the power station article says "it was supposed to be supplied with ... oil shale ... from the nearby Anina mine". Do the refs state that the mine did actually supplt the power station though? (I've removed the second nom and added the DYKmake template to this one). Smartse (talk) 00:07, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
- Added the ref to the Crivina article aswell and i'm going with your ALT. BineMai 17:45, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- The ref you supplied indeed states that the power station was supplied with oil shale from Anina. BineMai 17:40, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Red-and-yellow Barbet
- ... that while Red-and-yellow Barbets (male pictured) are tame in areas where they are not persecuted, they are hunted by the Maasai for their feathers?
5x expanded by J Milburn (talk). Nominated by J Milburn (talk) at 18:55, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Expansion, hook and the article are OK. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 17:26, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
The Park Centre for Mental Health
- ... that The Park Centre for Mental Health in Wacol, Queensland, has been renamed at least 7 times since it was first established, in 1865, as the Woogaroo Lunatic Asylum?
created by CybergothiChé (talk). Self nom at 1:41, 21 September 2010 (AEST)
Joe A. Guerra
- ... that Joe A. Guerra, a 20-year member of the Laredo, Texas, City Council, once grabbed a shovel to remove a dead animal from an inquiring constitutent's residence?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 00:11, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT:that Joe A. Guerra, an active Republican in heavily Democratic Laredo, Texas, won five elections to the city council but on the nonpartisan ballot required for municipal offices in his state?
David Sibley (Texas politician)
- ... that former Texas State Senator David Sibley lost by a single vote of his colleagues the 2000 race for lieutenant governor, created when Rick Perry succeeded to the governorship?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 23:52, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Ann Dexter Gordon
- ... that American history researcher Ann Dexter Gordon leads a project at Rutgers University which has cataloged more than 14,000 papers related to Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Susan B. Anthony?
Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 23:07, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Olaf Kullmann
- ... that after WWII reached Norway, former naval officer Olaf Kullmann bicycled around in Norway to agitate for pacifism?
Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 21:13, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Alessandro Portelli
- ... that Italian oral historian Alessandro Portelli has compared the stories of industrial workers in his hometown Terni, Italy with those of coal miners in Harlan County, Kentucky?
Created by Dwalls (talk). Self nom at 20:13, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
White Knuckles
- ... that the band OK Go's music video for "White Knuckles" is a one-shot take of the band interacting with twelve trained dogs and a goat?
Created by Masem (talk). Self nom at 18:18, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Article and hook length and sourcing have been verified. I can only expect dogs on treadmills next. Alansohn (talk) 03:08, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- They actually were planning to use the goat on the treadmill but decided against that...--MASEM (t) 22:23, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Operation Pike
- ... that the Nazis claimed the successful Blitzkrieg against France in 1940 saved the Soviet Union from an allied strategic bombing campaign called Operation Pike?
Created by Martintg (talk). Self nom at 18:06, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: This is great, and has me falling over myself in excitement. It does however have only one source for the entire article. Would it be possible to find a second? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 03:25, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Well it would be great to find more sources, but it is a very obscure topic. The source used, Osborn's book Operation Pike. Britain Versus the Soviet Union, 1939-1941 is very well regarded. For example Keith Neilson (who himself is a Professor of history and author of several books on Anglo-Russian relations[1]) reviewed the book in the academic journal "Diplomacy and Statecraft". He writes: "Osborn, an archivist for the American National Archives and Records Administration, has provided a very useful study of British policy towards the Soviet Union from 1939 to 1941 and, in particular, of the little-known Anglo-french plans to attack the Soviet Union in the period from September 1939 to June 1940."
- In conclusion, Neilson writes: "This is a very good book on a limited topic. It does not promise more than it deliveres, its documentary base is exemplary and its conclusions are judicious and carefully considered."
- --Martin (talk) 04:59, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Sounds good.
- What do you think of this as an alternative hook;
- ALT1 ... that the Nazis claimed the successful Blitzkrieg against France in 1940 saved the Soviet Union from an allied strategic bombing campaign called Operation Pike?
- (I also considered replacing "allied" with "Anglo-French" but I think keeping the wider term makes it potentially more eye-catching) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Another thing - I'm not sure the picture can be used, since we'd need to say something like "against Soviet oil facilities (example pictured)" which makes the hook rather more clumsy and also takes away some of the mystery. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:38, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Yep, that alternate hook is better, so I've updated it. You are probably right about the image too. --Martin (talk) 01:16, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
William Coblentz (California)
- ... that as an attorney, William Coblentz represented Patty Hearst, Jefferson Airplane and the Grateful Dead, and once called Ronald Reagan a "a menopausal Cary Grant"?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:18, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Robert Jenkins Onderdonk
- ... that nineteenth-century painter Robert Jenkins Onderdonk (example painting pictured), born in Maryland into a Dutch American family, became known as the "Dean of Texas's Artists"?
Created/expanded by Adrienlenoir (talk) and Drmies (talk) at 17:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Verified. I didn't see a source for the birthplace, so I added one. I added a "pictured", but feel free to reword and/or move that. I also upgraded the credit for Drmies from DYKnom to DYKmake, as his substantial expansion made the DYK possible. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:58, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Mecklenburg's Garden
- ... that Mecklenburg's Garden in Cincinnati used a ship model to inform patrons whether alcohol could be sold safely during Prohibition in the United States?
5x expanded by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 13:24, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Gaza Baptist Church
- ... that because of its height, the Gaza Baptist Church was commandeered by both Fatah and Hamas troops as a lookout point during the Fatah–Hamas conflict?
created by User:AMuseo and User:CMBJ (talk) (talk) . Nominated by User:AMuseo (talk) 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that because of its height, the Gaza Baptist Church was commandeered by both Fatah and Hamas troops as an observation post during the Fatah–Hamas conflict?
I'm admittedly biased as a person who contributed to the article, but I concur that this would make an interesting DYK entry. — C M B J 22:40, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Article and hook length and sourcing have been verified. Article is currently at AfD (see here), which needs to be resolved before this nomination can proceed. Alansohn (talk) 18:55, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Alfred Marshall Bailey
- ... that Alfred Marshall Bailey was Director of the Denver Museum of Natural History from 1936 to 1969?
Created by Maias (talk). Self nom at 11:54, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Source and length verified. Good to go.--Sulmues (talk) 15:10, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Dodge Morgan
- ... that radar detector millionaire Dodge Morgan at age 54 sailed solo around the globe without stops in 150 days, shattering the prior record of 292 days?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 06:17, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Article and hook sourcing and length verified. Alansohn (talk) 17:22, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Arthur's Quest: Battle for the Kingdom
- ... that GameSpot's Andrew Park called Arthur's Quest: Battle for the Kingdom, "an arcade-style coward simulator"?
- ALT1:... that GameSpot's Andrew Park gave Arthur's Quest: Battle for the Kingdom an abysmal rating?
- ALT2:... that Arthur's Quest: Battle for the Kingdom was nominated for GameSpot's Worst PC Game of 2002 award?
Created by Nomader (talk). Self nom at 06:07, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Pahuk
- ... that a Pawnee creation account centered on Pahuk, a bluff overlooking the Platte River in Nebraska?
Created by Ammodramus (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 04:33, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Khao Phing Kan + Andaman Sea
- ... that there is a James Bond Island (pictured) in the Andaman Sea?
- Comment: ALT1 ... that Barren Island in the Andaman Sea is the only active volcano (eruption pictured) associated with the Indian subcontinent? For main hook, see Khao Phing Kan, e.g., refs. 4,6,7. For ALT1, see "Volcanic activity" in the Andaman Sea, ref. 19. Materialscientist (talk) 03:56, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 03:56, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- ... that James Bond Island (pictured) is protected by sharks? (not currently reffed, but should be easy? Might even be able to flip it the other way, saying something about the sharks being protected? <g>) I suspect that the average viewer might have a better idea where "off southern Thailand" was than the Andaman Sea? Le Deluge (talk) 12:10, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- I could add Andaman Sea to ALT1 (which I need), but I can't imagine how an island can be protected by sharks. Those are rather shallow waters and while looking for literature on that island, I haven't seen anything on sharks. Please clarify. Is it from James Bond movie? Materialscientist (talk) 22:37, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- Sharks are mentioned in the sea in the Flora and fauna section (albeit not currently reffed, should be doable); it's a common theme in Bond films for the baddie's lair to contain a pool of sharks that people are thrown into, and those who try to rush the baddie's chair end up swimming with the sharks, so the idea of sharks protecting the baddy is a common image. Don't add Andaman Sea to ALT1, the simpler the better - and I suspect most people have either not heard of it or have at best a hazy idea of where it is, so it's not helping the hook. Le Deluge (talk) 01:29, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, but I prefer to stay with real world and real facts. Andaman sea article currently does not mention sharks. They might be there, but I doubt there are many around Khao Phing Kan. I fully agree that the simpler the better, but I have expanded Andaman Sea too for this DYK; surely I could split this nom into two, but given the backlog, I would keep them as a double. Materialscientist (talk) 01:45, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- It's mentioned in the Khao Phing Kan#Flora and fauna section. I'm sorry, I hadn't sussed that this was a double DYK though. Still, if the most interesting thing about the island is the James Bond link, then sharks is a very hooky way to get people reading the articles. Le Deluge (talk) 02:07, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- Just saying, personally I like the original hook the best– it got me to click on both of them. With the state of the backlog, it'd be much preferable as well to have a double hook rather than split them up. Nomader (Talk) 18:14, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
M-6 (Michigan highway)
- ... that during the "Southbelt Shuffle" event on M-6 south of Grand Rapids, Michigan, horses were ridden on the partially completed freeway?
5x expanded by Imzadi1979 (talk). Self nom at 03:15, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Ontario Highway 9
- ... that it took over 26 years to plan and construct the Orangeville Bypass of Ontario Highway 9?
5x expanded by Floydian (talk). Self nom at 02:32, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
All checked out. Added the Orangeville link. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 17:23, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 19
Sirmilik National Park
- ... that Sirmilik, the name of a National Park (pictured) in the northern part of Baffin Island, means "the place of glaciers" in the Inuktitut language?
5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 11:11, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Added an img.-- N.V.V. Char Talk . 12:56, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
By my count (from the last revision prior to Blofield's expansion on Sept. 19) prose not quite expanded 5 fold: original character count about 1650, current count about 7700. Good additions though!-- P 1 9 9 • TALK 17:10, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
The edit prior to the beginning of expansion was on June 9, when the article had 337 characters of prose. After the expansion which began September 19, it's currently at 7559. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:52, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, you are right, I should have counted from June 9. Sorry for the oversight. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 20:09, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Thado Minsaw of Prome, Prome Kingdom
- ... that the founder of the Prome Kingdom, Thado Minsaw, took his brother's queen for his own?
Created by Hybernator (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 15:11, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Alternatively, if the rules could be stretched to allow two other new articles which don't qualify for length reasons alone, we could go with: "... that only four kings ruled over an independent Prome Kingdom: Thado Minsaw, Bayin Htwe, Narapati, and Minkhaung?" GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 15:11, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Formerly the Warlocks
- ... that to maintain a low profile for their appearances at the Hampton Coliseum, the rock band Grateful Dead asked to appear on the billing as Formerly the Warlocks?
Created by Mudwater (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 14:54, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
September War for Šibenik
- ... that, hoping to cut off the Dalmatian coast from Croatia, Yugoslav and Serbian forces attacked the city of Šibenik for six days in 1991?
Created by Jesuislafete (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 23:30, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
The Day I Shot Cupid
- ... that, while promoting her relationship advice book The Day I Shot Cupid, Jennifer Love-Hewitt enthused about decorating her vulva with crystal glass?
Created by IanM197 (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 21:27, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Zuhal Sultan
- ... that Zuhal Sultan founded the National Youth Orchestra of Iraq at the age of 17?
Created by Stannez (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 20:51, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Date, length and ref all check out. Ericoides 18:32, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Family (Blumenfeld)
- ... that members of the public are encouraged to climb and rearrange pieces of the Family sculpture in front of the Federal Building in Milwaukee, Wisconsin?
Created by Claudiamoon (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 20:48, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Sopwith Cobham
- ... that the Sopwith Cobham triplane bomber was the only twin-engine aircraft built by the Sopwith Aviation Company?
Created by Nigel Ish (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 20:30, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Siderno Group
- ... that the Siderno Group has been involved in the movement of narcotics across three continents?
Created by DonCalo (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 20:11, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Verified, I've changed "is" > "has been" in the hook as that's what the reference states and the reference is ten years old. Smartse (talk) 21:21, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Port Phillip District Special Surveys
- ... that the Special Survey system allowed people to purchase areas of the Port Phillip District in New South Wales for as little as £1 per acre?
Created by Billingd (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 19:53, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Anton von Zach
- ... that despite a warning by Field Marshal Michael von Melas that the man had "a soul as black as his countenance", Heinrich von Bellegarde retained Anton von Zach as Chief of Staff?
Created by Djmaschek (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 19:38, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
George W. Rice
- ... that George W. Rice was the only Canadian in the Lady Franklin Bay Expedition to the Canadian Arctic?
Created by Innapoy (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 19:27, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Colt Model 1878
- ... that Samuel Colt only began producing the Colt Model 1878 double action revolver over twenty years after his patent on the design had expired?
Created by Engineer comp geek (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 19:16, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
2010 Slovenia floods
There are several free photos available in the article, I leave the choice to the evaluating admin. Created by Tone (talk). Self nom at 15:21, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Length and date OK, and foreign-lang refs AGF for ALT 1 (I've tweaked the hook). Ericoides 17:08, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Rodolph Crandall
- ... that Rodolph Crandall replaced his brother-in-law as mayor of Hillsboro, Oregon?
Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Nominated by Aboutmovies (talk) at 05:16, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Islamization of the Gaza Strip
- ... that the Islamization of the Gaza Strip includes government campaigns against playing cards and dating?
created by User:AMuseo User:Marokwitz (talk).([[User talk:Markowitz|talk}} Nominated by User:AMuseo (talk) 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Bénoué National Park
- ... that at least one incident of kleptoparasitism was documented at Bénoué National Park, a UNESCO designated Biosphere Reserve in Cameroon?
5x expanded by Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 03:22, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Verified expansion, facts. Royalbroil 02:25, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Enough Is Enough (organization)
- ... that as a leader of the anti-Internet pornography organization Enough Is Enough, a former political sex scandal "other woman" became an influential Washington, D.C., lobbyist?
Created by Wasted Time R (talk). Self nom at 02:39, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Golden Submarine
- ... that Barney Oldfield won 20 of 54 races that he entered in his Golden Submarine car?
Created by Chipguy21 (talk), Royalbroil (talk). Nominated by Royalbroil (talk) at 02:17, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Thriasian Plain
- ... that according to Greek Mythology the Thriasian Plain was flooded by Poseidon after he lost control of Attica to Athena?
Created by Athenean (talk). Nominated by Athenean (talk) at 19:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Batoufam
5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 14:09, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Verified 5x expansion and citation verifies the content. Royalbroil 02:18, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
San Juan de Silicia
- ... that the San Juan de Silicia, a ship of the Spanish Armada, sank off the coast of Scotland, and since the 1600s it has been thought to have been a Spanish treasure ship?
Created by Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk). Self nom at 09:03, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Matt Lawton
- ... that as a member of the Minnesota Twins in 1997, baseball player Matt Lawton gave 38 tickets to his family so they could attend one of his games against the Houston Astros at the Astrodome?
5x expanded by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 04:28, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Wow, that article was rewritten, looks great in a cursory glance for a Good Article review. The article had said 48 tickets but the source confirms 38, so I updated the article. The article is ready to run on DYK. Nice job! Royalbroil 02:07, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Eastern Promenade
- ... that the Eastern Promenade in Portland, Maine is home to a Narrow Gauge Railroad and Museum, the mast of the World War II era USS Portland heavy cruiser and a mass grave of American prisoners of war from the War of 1812?
Created by Namiba (talk). Nominated by Namiba (talk) at 04:11, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- Original hook is 220 characters. ALT1 is 197. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 09:05, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Portland, Maine's Eastern Promenade is home to a Narrow Gauge Railroad Museum, the mast of the WWII era USS Portland heavy cruiser and a mass grave of US prisoners of war from the War of 1812?
Mount Pleasant (Indian Falls, New York)
- ... that seven carpenters were required to build the Mt. Pleasant farmhouse (pictured) near Indian Falls, New York?
5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 03:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Christian bookstore, Gaza
- ... that the only Christian bookstore in Gaza closed after its owner was beaten and murdered by armed extremists?
created by User:AMuseo (talk). Nominated by User:AMuseo (talk) 20 September 2010 (UTC)
The source stating that it was the only such bookstore, should be specifically cited in the article, if it is in the hook. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- Note that this article is currently up for deletion at Articles for Deletion.--TM 04:20, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- A glance at the article or at the AFD will show the baselessness of the AFD.AMuseo (talk) 11:50, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- If an article is nominated for deletion, the DYK nomination remains in the queue until the discussion is closed. Then it gets reviewed for DYK. I wouldn't be worried if I were you. Royalbroil 02:12, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Canadian Air-Sea Transportable Brigade Group
- ... that the Canadian Air-Sea Transportable Brigade Group (CAST) was formed to rapidly reinforce Norway in the event of an invasion by the USSR, but disbanded after they needed two years of planning and 21 days to cross the Atlantic?
Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 23:25, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Hook is 252 characters, well over the 200 allowed. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 00:12, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
*Also, USST may refer to:, the United States Ski Team, the University of Saskatchewan Space Design Team, or the University of Shanghai for Science and Technology, China; is USSR intended? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:20, 20 September 2010 (UTC)Someone fixed that part --Demiurge1000 (talk) 08:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC)- Oops, that was me, I fixed both issues and failed to post a note. Maury Markowitz (talk) 10:52, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Frederick E. Morgan
- ... that Lieutenant General Frederick E. Morgan, the original planner of Operation Overlord, was widely believed to have been accidentally appointed the British Controller of Atomic Energy instead of General Sir William Duthie Morgan?
5x expanded by Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:09, 19 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 22:08, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Not 5x expanded. Size before expansion began was 4877 and the current size is 16165, so another 8220 characters are required. (Also, if you do manage to sufficiently expand it, the current hook, at 230 characters, is too long.) MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 00:56, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- Oops. Thanks for taking the time to review. Hawkeye7 (talk) 04:22, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- Well done on the expansion though!--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 09:05, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- Oops. Thanks for taking the time to review. Hawkeye7 (talk) 04:22, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Adelaide leak
- ... that although cricketer Jack Fingleton was blamed for the Adelaide leak, he later accused Donald Bradman of providing the story?
- ALT1:... that Pelham Warner, the M.C.C. manager, was so angered by the Adelaide leak, he offered a reward to the bowler who could dismiss Jack Fingleton, who he believed responsible, in the next innings.
Created by Sarastro1 (talk). Self nom at 20:43, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that after the Adelaide leak, the main suspect had three ducks?
- ALT2 ... that the Adelaide leak could have landed the Australian economy in hot water?
- Anything to do with Bradman would be very hooky outside North America, and the dispute over writing newspaper columns is an interesting angle with modern resonance. Le Deluge (talk) 12:59, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Toyota Celica LB Turbo
- ... that the Toyota Celica LB Turbo was the only non-German car to compete in the top category of its domestic sportscar racing series during its competitive career?
- ALT1:... that when the Toyota Celica LB Turbo finished 4th in the Nürburgring round of the Deutsche Rennsport Meisterschaft in 1977 and 8th at Mainz-Finthen in 1978, it was the highest finishing car that was not a Porsche 935?
Created by Donnie Park (talk). Nominated by Donnie Park (talk) at 20:37, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2:... that the two championship finishes by a Toyota Celica LB Turbo (4th and 8th) was the best result for a race car that was not a Porsche 935?
- Shortened version of ALT1. Donnie Park (talk) 18:39, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Paul S. Martin, Paul Sidney Martin
- ... that in the early 1970s the University of Arizona employed anthropologists Paul Sidney Martin and Paul S. Martin?
Created by User:Davidlchandler and yours truly. - East of Borschov 19:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: Why is it surprising or eye-catching that the university of Arizona should employ anthropologists? To put that another way, are there perhaps some more interesting facts about these two individuals? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:36, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- OH it's because of their very similar names. But if I can miss that, so (perhaps) can a casual reader. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:38, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that Paul S. Martin and Paul Sidney Martin both worked as anthropologists at the University of Arizona in the early 1970s? (Bit more obvious that way round? Or could you even shorten Sidney to S.?) Le Deluge (talk) 13:15, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- I think it's cool that way. Geschichte (talk) 21:15, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Tamaulipas massacre
- ... that the Tamaulipas massacre that occurred on 24 August 2010 has been described as "the worst atrocity" of the Mexican Drug War?
Created by Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 18:29, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Ambam
- ... that in January 2010, the mayor of Ambam was arrested and accused of the embezzlement of 20 million CFA Francs?
5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 16:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Prose originally less than 500 bytes. More than expanded x5. Dr. Blofeld 16:17, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
UAAP Season 73 men's basketball tournament
- ... that during a game on the 2010 season, University of the Philippines basketball coach Boyet Fernandez instructed his player to deliberately cross the shaded lane while a free-throw is being attempted to force a double lane violation?
- Comment: This might be too technical to compress into 200 letters so the reader might not get it. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 16:05, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Nominated by Howard the Duck (talk) at 16:05, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- It's 233 characters. How about the following, which is exactly 200? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:01, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that during a 2010 game, the University of the Philippines basketball coach told a player to deliberately cross the shaded lane while a free-throw was being attempted to force a double lane violation?
- I'd prefer the coach being named. Why not ditch "double lane violation" and change it to "jump ball" since that was his purpose in instructing his player to cross the lane? –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 18:13, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Okay. ALT2 is also 200 characters. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:47, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that during a 2010 game, University of the Philippines basketball coach Boyet Fernandez told a player to deliberately cross the shaded lane while a free-throw was being attempted to force a jump ball?
Verified. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:44, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that an Ateneo de Manila University basketball player was ejected when a patch fell off his uniform? –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 16:03, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- It's 233 characters. How about the following, which is exactly 200? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:01, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Vespa luctuosa
- ... that the Philippine hornet Vespa luctuosa has the most lethal venom by weight of any known wasp species?
Created by IronGargoyle (talk). Self nom at 15:26, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Verified. Smartse (talk) 21:27, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Brijesh Mishra
- ... that Brijesh Mishra was the first National Security Advisor of India, prior to which the post did not exist?
Created by LogicDictates (talk) 13:49, 19 September 2010 (UTC). Nominated by LogicDictates (talk) 13:49, 19 September 2010 (UTC).
Alpiq
- ... that the Swiss based Alpiq owns a 60% stake in the Grande Dixence SA, company that manages the Grande Dixence Dam?
Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 13:19, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- OK, so a Swiss power generating company has a stake in a Swiss power generating facility. But is this really interesting or surprising or unusual?
- Maybe you should add ", the tallest gravity dam in the world" to the end of it? (Although there might be issues with exactly how that fact is sourced.)
- Or try a hook along the lines that although most of Alpiq's power generation is from hydroelectric or geothermal sources, it's currently investing in a solar power station in Sicily? Still not exactly fascinating, but it adds a bit of variety at least. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:58, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that although most of Alpiq's power generation is from hydroelectric sources, it's currently investing in a solar power station in Sicily?
Pope John Paul II's visit to the United Kingdom
- ... that Pope John Paul II's 1982 visit to the United Kingdom was the first made to that country by a reigning Pope?
Created by TheRetroGuy (talk). Nominated by TheRetroGuy (talk) at 12:14, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
The West Wing (season 7)
- ... that the seventh season of The West Wing featured a live television episode that was broadcast twice for the East and West coasts of the United States?
5x expanded by Rambo's Revenge (talk). Self nom at 11:48, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Samuel Rabin (artist)
- ... that artist and sculptor Samuel Rabin was also a professional wrestler and opera singer who appeared in The Scarlet Pimpernel and won a bronze medal in wrestling at the 1928 Summer Olympics?
Created by DavidCane (talk). Self nom at 03:13, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Tweaked hook slightly for grammar. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 04:01, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Older nominations
Articles created/expanded on September 18
- ... that the pioneering journalist Pearl Rivers took her pseudonym from the river that ran near her home?
Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 14:25, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Email disclaimer
- ... that UBS Warburg had an email disclaimer of more than 1000 words?
Created by Colonel Warden (talk). Self nom at 21:02, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Lorraine Fisher, Jane Stoll
- ... that Lorraine Fisher and Jane Stoll are featured in a permanent display at the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum?
Created by MusiCitizen (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 20:04, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
In the Jane Stoll article, I don't see an inline cite that states the fact in the hook. In the Lorraine Fisher article, the citations never say that she is specifically in the display. Both articles are also in questionable shape. But the dates and length check out. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 03:09, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Kreutzer Air Coach
- ... that there is only a single extant example of the K-5 Air Coach aircraft?
Created by RuthAS (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 18:31, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Portrait of Mary Adeline Williams
- ... that critics debate over whether the differences between Thomas Eakins' two portraits of Mary Adeleine Williams are the result of an affair between the pair?
Created/expanded by JNW (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 18:16, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- First portrait is included as an image, but the second one would work as well, if preferred. GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 18:16, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Processing fluency theory of aesthetic pleasure, Processing fluency
- ... that psychologists have theorised that people interpret sensory information that their brains can easily process as beautiful?
Created by Fuzzy artist (talk), Miegoreng (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 17:55, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
August von Haxthausen
- ... that August von Haxthausen's essays gathered enough attention that both Frederick William IV of Prussia and Nicholas I of Russia asked him to suggest improvements on land reform?
Created by Languagehat (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 17:04, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Zhuge Shuang
- ... that Zhuge Shuang rose from a street beggar to a general of the Tang Dynasty?
Created by Nlu (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 15:00, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Antiviral protein
- ... that proteins from pokeweed have shown antiviral properties?
Created by Kfranks81292 (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 14:50, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Ralph Iwowari
- ... that after a journalist published an article criticising the leadership of Nigeria's Rivers State, the governor's aide-de-camp ordered that he be caned and have his head shaven with an old blade?
Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 13:59, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
New enough, long enough, properly referenced, interesting hook, hook fact and supporting citation all OK. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:39, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- I just spotted this by accident when checking status on self-nominated Pearl Rivers (below), then saw a related article had also been nominated. This one and Nembe Kingdom are closely related and overlap to some extent: the kingdom and one of the current kings. Maybe one could be posted (I prefer the kingdom) but not both, my view. Aymatth2 (talk) 01:52, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
SS Georgiana (1863)
- ... that the first salvage license granted by South Carolina was for the wreckage of the SS Georgiana?
Created by RebaLee74 (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 14:33, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Andrew Jackson (clipper)
- ... that the Andrew Jackson was one of only two square-rigged ships to sail from New York City to San Francisco in under ninety days?
Created/expanded by Bigturtle (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 13:49, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Edumanom Forest Reserve
- ... that the Edumanom Forest Reserve is the last known chimpanzee habitat in the Niger Delta?
Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 13:37, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Chavonnes Battery
- ... that the site of Cape Town's Chavonnes Battery has been home to a military fortification, a coal bunker, a fish factory, a hospital quarantine ward, and now exists as a museum inside a bank?
Created/expanded by Rodw (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 13:31, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
1999–2000 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team and 2000–01 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that Brian Ellerbe coached the 1999–2000 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team to the 2000 National Invitation Tournament and then his tenure ended with the 2000–01 team?
Created by Court Jester (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 02:18, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
2007–08 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that the 2007–08 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team included Ekpe Udoh who led both the Big Ten Conference and Big Twelve Conference in blocked shots?
Created by Court Jester (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 02:08, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
2001–02 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team, 2002–03 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team, 2003–04 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team, 2005–06 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team, 2006–07 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that Tommy Amaker coached the 2001–02, 2002–03, 2003–04, 2004–05, 2005–06, 2006–07 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball teams, winning the 2004 National Invitation Tournament and finishing runner-up in the 2006 National Invitation Tournament?
Created by User:Court Jester (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 02:01, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- I believe all except 2003–04 were created by Court Jester. All expanded by TonyTheTiger
- See proposal at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Michigan basketball overload, part 2. Cbl62 (talk) 02:18, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- 2004-05 is only 1300 or so. REally need to change the wikicup rules with a prose multiplier to stop DYK/GA getting flooded YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 02:36, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Teaching to the test
- ... that the educational practice of teaching to the test has been criticised for excluding creative and abstract-thinking skills?
Created by Nikkimaria (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 21:30, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Feathered Helmet, The Death of Captain James Cook (Zoffany)
- ... that the Feathered Helmet (pictured) that was included in the painting of Captain James Cook's death is said to be the helmet given to Cook when he first landed in Hawaii?
- Comment: ref in ledes
Created/expanded by Victuallers Victuallers (talk) 08:19, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
French blockade of the Río de la Plata
- ... that Argentina resisted a two-years long naval blockade by France?
Created by User:MBelgrano (talk). Self nom at 03:50, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- The article is OK and the hook is fine, but it was created in September 18. The nomination should be moved lower (September 18). Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 17:26, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- Done. I thought it was the date of nomination MBelgrano (talk) 18:10, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 18:12, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Can we please have a chronological anchor in there, clarify, and remove a little redundancy?
- ALT1: that in the mid-nineteenth century Argentina successfully resisted a two-year naval blockade by France? Rd232 talk 15:42, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Jonas Mouton
- ... that Michigan Wolverines football player Jonas Mouton has started for three seasons at weakside linebacker even though he was recruited as a safety?
5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 02:44, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- This expansion was assisted by Cbl62.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:44, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Elsham Priory
- ... that in 1440, a visitor to the Augustinian Elsham Priory in Lincolnshire complained of the canons' drunken behavior?
Created/expanded by Bob Castle (talk). Nominated by Bob Castle (talk) at 23:22, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Fyodor Petrovich Komissarzhevsky
- ... that the 19th century Russian tenor Fyodor Petrovich Komissarzhevsky (pictured) retired to the Italian town of Sanremo and died there while tending his roses?
- Comment: I wasn't sure what date to list this for. The article was created as a 28 word stub on 16 September by User:Neddyseagoon [2] which I expanded to 630 words (3473 characters) on 18 September. The hook is based on the 6th and 7th sentences of the second paragraph of the Biography section. The article uses a shortened footnote format for the inline citations. Consult the Sources section for full bibliographic information and links for the citations.
5x expanded by Voceditenore (talk). Self nom at 08:33, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT 1 ... that actor and theatre director, Constantin Stanislavsky, once studied opera singing under the Russian tenor Fyodor Petrovich Komissarzhevsky (pictured)?
(based on the 3rd sentence of the second paragraph of the Biography section.)
- ALT 1 ... that actor and theatre director, Constantin Stanislavsky, once studied opera singing under the Russian tenor Fyodor Petrovich Komissarzhevsky (pictured)?
- ALT 2 ... that the 19th century Russian tenor Fyodor Petrovich Komissarzhevsky (pictured) sang in Italy under the name of "Teodoro di Pietro"?
(based on the 3rd sentence of the first paragraph of the Biography section.)
- ALT 2 ... that the 19th century Russian tenor Fyodor Petrovich Komissarzhevsky (pictured) sang in Italy under the name of "Teodoro di Pietro"?
Joseph Bringas
- ... that the parakoimomenos Joseph Bringas resisted the rise of the general Nikephoros Phokas to the Byzantine throne, but was overthrown after three days of street clashes in Constantinople?
5x expanded by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 17:31, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
5x expansion, length and date verified. There are some minor issues with hook wording, though. First, "overthrown" sounds as if Bringas indeed held the title of emperor. I wouldn't be against using this verb in the article, where you have provided context and explained that he was de facto head of state of Byzantium, but we do not have this context in the hook. It can be interpreted as if he was overthrown from his position as parakoimomenos by a general wishing to be an emperor, regardless of whether a parakoimomenos can be overthrown. Also, and I'm not sure on that one, "resisted" alone somehow implies a successful resistance. Perhaps another verb should be used or it should be elaborated with something like "initially resisted" to tie it with the second part of the sentence. — Toдor Boжinov — 15:16, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- Good points. The second one is easy, change "resisted" to "opposed". For the first one, I pondered it myself: "deposed" is, if anything, worse, and there has to be an implication of a violent change, i.e. overthrow. Only if we change the meaning completely can something be done, e.g. instead of "was overthrown" we could use "was defeated". Otherwise the only way would be to try and introduce the context into the hook, i.e. "that Joseph Bringas, the virtual regent of the Byzantine Empire, opposed the rise of general Nikephoros Phokas to the throne, but was overthrown after three days of street clashes in Constantinople?" Constantine ✍ 16:01, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- "Opposed" is a good suggestion. Incorporating the context into the hook certainly does the job, but the hook becomes a little too long and tedious for my liking. I like "was defeated" better, but I wouldn't say no to the suggestion which includes the context. Here's my preferred wording:
- ALT1: ... that the parakoimomenos Joseph Bringas opposed the rise of the general Nikephoros Phokas to the Byzantine throne, but was defeated after three days of street clashes in Constantinople?
- If you're fine with that (or prefer the longer version, up to you), I can give you a
:) AGF is because p. 499 of Treadgold is not in the Google Books preview for me, and the three days of fighting thing is not in Kazhdan. — Toдor Boжinov — 16:51, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 is fine by me. Cheers, Constantine ✍ 16:53, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
As promised! :) — Toдor Boжinov — 17:19, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 is fine by me. Cheers, Constantine ✍ 16:53, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Rebecca Nolin
- ... that former Chelsea L.F.C. captain Rebecca Nolin now plays as a defender for the Atlanta Beat?
- ALT1:that Atlanta Beat defender Rebecca Nolin was once captain of Chelsea L.F.C.?
- Comment: Article created via WP:AFC, moved into mainspace Sept 18.
Created by 90.221.202.90 (talk). Nominated by Strange Passerby (talk) at 07:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that the captain of the 2001 Chelsea team now plays alongside an England international footballer in Atlanta, Georgia? Le Deluge (talk) 13:47, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Wallace Turner
- ... that after winning a Pulitzer Prize at The Oregonian, Wallace Turner went on to The New York Times where he covered the murder of Harvey Milk?
Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Nominated by Aboutmovies (talk) at 06:57, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Sourcing and length for article and hook have been verified. The link in the article to the obit in the LA Times that supported the hook was not working but has already been corrected while verifying the article. Alansohn (talk) 18:24, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Electromyrmococcus
- ... that amber fossils of ants carrying the extinct mealybug genus Electromyrmococcus represent the oldest record of symbiosis between mealybugs and Acropyga ants.?
Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 00:30, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
The ref says that the fossils "represent the oldest definitive record of ant-homopteran symbiosis" this is more interesting IMO than it just being the first record of symbiosis between mealybugs and Acropyga - can an ALT hook be made with this instead, or do you consider this to be too speculative? (The current hook is verified) Smartse (talk) 15:32, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- The problem is that almost all entomologists have abandoned the term "Homoptera" so that creates the problem of if we keep Homoptera its an outdated and inaccurate hook, but if we change Homoptera to Sternorrhyncha are we stepping over into OR? --Kevmin § 15:41, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Ok, I'm not sure if that would be OR or not but as there is some doubt it's best just to stick with your hook. Smartse (talk) 16:27, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Bill McKown
- ... that Bill McKown (pictured) went from being a youth with 200 model airplanes hanging from his bedroom ceiling to being a Navy E2-C Hawkeye pilot, commander of squadron VAW-114, and Distinguished Eagle Scout?
Created/expanded by Rlevse (talk). Self nom at 23:15, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Bhutan-Nepal relations
- ... that Bhutan-Nepal relations have been adversely affected by the presence of Bhutanese refugees, who reside in seven U.N.-run camps in Nepal?
Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 23:04, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Someday Soon (Ian Tyson song)
- ... that the Ian Tyson song "Someday Soon" has been a charted single for Judy Collins, Moe Bandy and Suzy Bogguss?
Created by TenPoundHammer (talk). Nominated by TenPoundHammer (talk) at 22:24, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Bud Ogden
- ... that Bud Ogden was selected in two consecutive NBA Drafts?
Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 21:49, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- Alt1: ... that Bud Ogden played for the Philadelphia 76ers, his younger brother played for the San Francisco Warriors and his father was a Medal of Honor recipient?
- boths hooks are good. Dincher (talk) 21:54, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- I don't suppose it'd be possible to expand Ralph Ogden enough to be viable for a multi-hook nomination? If not, no worries. GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 18:49, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
How much more expansion does he need? If it's not too much I can give it a stab.Jrcla2 (talk) 21:41, 23 September 2010 (UTC)- I added some information about his high school career and his time with a professional German team. Is the article now long enough to double-DYK? Jrcla2 (talk) 23:12, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Portuguese-Mamluk naval war
- ... that the Portuguese–Mamluk naval war (battle illustrated) was an attempt by the Mamluk Sultanate of Egypt to stop the expansion of the Portuguese in the Indian Ocean in the early 16th century?
Created/expanded by Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Nominated by Per Honor et Gloria (talk) at 21:48, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 00:54, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Finless sleeper ray
- ... that finless sleeper ray may be the smallest cartilaginous fish, with the smallest adult specimen measuring 8.2 cm (3.2 in) long?
5x expanded by User:Yzx (talk). Self nom at 21:22, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Expanded 5x, length and age are fine. Offline citation for the hook is taken in good faith. Good to go! GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 18:53, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
John Durkin (footballer)
- ... that Scottish footballer John Durkin combined playing for Gillingham F.C. with a job at a coal mine?
Created by ChrisTheDude (talk). Self nom at 21:03, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Amir Mir
- ... that journalist Amir Mir declined an award from former Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf, criticizing him as a dictator who violated the Constitution of Pakistan and did not respect the freedom of expression?
Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 17:24, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
ADEOS II (satellite)
- ... that the ADEOS II satellite, which cost 70 billion Yen (US$570 million) to develop, failed 10 months into the mission after the solar panel malfunctioned?
Created by Mattgirling (talk). Self nom at 17:14, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Length and sourcing for article and hook have been verified. Alansohn (talk) 18:35, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- ... that the 1493 Sejm held at the Piotrków Trybunalski Castle (pictured) was the first two chamber parliament in Poland?
Created by BurgererSF (talk) 16:36, 18 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 16:36, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Bell Savage Inn
- ... that in 1684, the Bell Savage Inn in London exhibited the first rhinoceros to be seen in England?
Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 16:28, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Article length, history, and source check out. But I found at least one passage that had wording taken directly from the source material without quotation marks [3] (and it's the only section I looked at closely). As a rule of thumb, once one passage is found to be suspect, the whole article needs to be checked. rʨanaɢ (talk) 16:35, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- "Assuming good faith is a fundamental principle on Wikipedia". No plagiarism was intended. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 16:49, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- We AGF in the beginning, but the point is if plagiarism is found somewhere in the article, the whole article is suspect; if you've already slipped in one part of the article, there's no guarantee that you didn't slip elsewhere too; you yourself seem to have now acknowledged that you did this on other passages as well. Trying to deflect scrutiny by wikilawyering doesn't help either. rʨanaɢ (talk) 17:01, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Urban Land Committees, Land titling
- ... that via Urban Land Committees, over 300,000 Venezuelan urban households have benefited from a land titling program?
Created by Rd232 (talk). Self nom at 15:46, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- Note - both Urban Land Committees and land titling are new articles I've just created. I think they're eligible to be counted together? (Not that it matters if the statscheck is broken again...) Rd232 talk 15:46, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Length and sourcing for both articles and hook have been verified. Each article in the hook must be addressed separately, but each is fine. Note that a comma was added to the hook after the first article, for improved clarity and the country was wikilinked. Alansohn (talk) 19:25, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Society reporting
- … that the first proper society page in the United States was the invention of James Gordon Bennett, Jr. for the New York Herald? Me again. Uncle G (talk) 13:43, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
This article seems to be an expansion of one created in July 2008, but it is not a 5x expansion. Yoninah (talk) 11:24, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- It's been expanded 5x now, but the use of "proper" sounds a little weasely to me. Why weren't the articles in the NYE considered proper? Smartse (talk) 15:15, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Don't ask me. Mott et al. is the source for what Bennett did at the Enquirer. They chose not to label that work as a "society page", but as articles comprising "tales of high society". For what it's worth, Bennett didn't own the Enquirer, but he founded the Herald. He was Washington correspondent, and later, by 1829, associate editor of the Enquirer. But he founded the Herald, in a cellar apparently. Pretty much every source that I have, that discusses this, repeats the accepted knowledge that the actual "society page" proper came about with the Herald. Uncle G (talk) 23:26, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- It's been expanded 5x now, but the use of "proper" sounds a little weasely to me. Why weren't the articles in the NYE considered proper? Smartse (talk) 15:15, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Serra da Mesa Dam
- ... that the Serra da Mesa Dam creates the largest reservoir by volume in Brazil?
Created/self-nom by NortyNort (Holla) 11:52, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Translation of the Portuguese source supports the claim in the hook, and length and sourcing of the article are fine. The rankings at List of reservoirs by volume place the dam as the largest in the country, but I have been unable to find an independent online reliable source with any rankings by volume that would put the dam as the largest in Brazil. I think that the article is satisfactory as it stands, but the additional sourcing would only help. Alansohn (talk) 19:32, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. The dam is not the largest by volume or height, just the reservoir. --NortyNort (Holla) 21:24, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Gonggar County, Shannan Prefecture, Gonggar Choide Monastery, Gonggar Dzong, Lhasa Gonggar Airport
- ... that the Gonggar County of the Shannan Prefecture in Tibet contains the Gonggar Choide Monastery, a dzong, and a regional airport (pictured) which serves Lhasa, despite being located about 62 kilometres (39 mi) from it?
Created by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 11:43, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- Left some tags needing attention. Materialscientist (talk) 01:14, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hook could be better worded; "both" suggests only two items. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 05:05, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks to both reviewers. Hopefully, I have attended to all tags, minor editing and units conversions. Deleted the word 'both' in the hook.-- N.V.V. Char Talk . 03:14, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Itumbiara Dam
- ... that the Itumbiara Dam (pictured) is Eletrobras Furnas' largest power plant and the sixth largest in Brazil?
Created/self-nom byNortyNort (Holla) 09:46, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: I also created the Eletrobras Furnas article but afterward, I saw that (Furnas (company)) had existed. The article was not linked to the Eletrobras article, not titled correctly and was not in the proper category so I did not see it. As it was smaller, less structured, needed to be updated and had no references, I reduced it to a redirect. Anyway, I had no idea it existed and I was still curious if I would get credit for both. --NortyNort (Holla) 09:46, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Graham Lovett
- ... that English footballer Graham Lovett was forced to retire aged 26 years, following two serious motor accidents in less than three years?
Created by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk). Nominated by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) at 06:07, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Leonardo Mascheroni
- ... that according to the United States government, nuclear physicist Leonardo Mascheroni attempted to sell nuclear secrets to Venezuela with the aim of helping that country obtain a nuclear bomb within 10 years?
Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Nominated by Stonemason89 (talk) at 05:22, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that American nuclear physicist Leonardo Mascheroni has attempted to get Congress to fund his idea of using hydrogen fluoride lasers to generate nuclear fusion? Stonemason89 (talk) 05:57, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that American nuclear physicist Leonardo Mascheroni was fired from Los Alamos in 1987 over suspicions that he was a spy for Argentina, although no evidence was found by the FBI?
the main proposal is dubious in not presenting the explicit US disclaimer that Venezuela had nothing to do with it. ALT1 is kinda boring. Hence ALT2. Rd232 talk 17:29, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Stand of the Swiss Guard
- ... that the Stand of the Swiss Guard enabled the Pope to escape during the 1527 sack of Rome?
ALT1 ... that during the 1527 sacking of Rome, the the Swiss Guards sacrificed themselves to protect the Pope's retreat?
DCI2026 (talk) 03:54, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
1958 Pakistani coup d'état
- ... that the 1958 Pakistani coup d'état led by General Ayub Khan was validated by the Supreme Court of Pakistan under the "doctrine of necessity"?
Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 03:30, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Date, length, and hook verified. Bejinhan talks 13:53, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- ... that "Peligroso Amor" was the first number-one song for Chilean performer Myriam Hernández in the United States?
Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 00:37, 18 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 00:37, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 17
Stuxnet
- ... that Symantec claims that the majority of systems infected by the computer worm Stuxnet were in Iran?
Created by Wikieditoroftoday (talk). Nominated by BorgQueen (talk) at 00:55, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
- Alt: ... that Stuxnet is the first discovered computer worm that spies on and reprograms industrial systems? --BorgQueen (talk) 01:01, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Sesame Street media
- ... that the Children's Television Workshop has developed Sesame Street media as a funding source for its production of Sesame Street?
Created by User:Georgia guy (talk). Nominated by User:Figureskatingfan (talk) at 17:23, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry this has taken so long to get over here; Georgia guy is either shy or busy.
Flight from Folly
- ... that Flight from Folly, is one of the British Film Institute's "75 Most-Wanted Films"?
Created by Draggleduck (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 18:27, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- Could also include another new article by Draggleduck to make the following: "... that Jean Gillie's final part in a British film was in Flight from Folly, one of the BFI's 75 Most-Wanted Films? GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 20:24, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Whilst stated in the article, the hook fact is not cited in Jean Gillie's article. Flight from Folly desperately needs more sources, the entire plot section is unsourced and I'm unwilling to pass this nomination unless that's solved. Otherwise, length, date and hook source are fine. Just have to handle that entire chunk of unsourced text. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 15:55, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Plot summaries typically use the subject itself as the primary reference. See any Featured Article on a film or television episode for an example (a quick random selection of italicised entries in the Media section turns up 300 (film), Lage Raho Munna Bhai, and Pride and Prejudice (1995 TV serial), none of which have a single reference in the plot section. Ditto my own FA, noitulovE, plus countless others). It seems slightly odd to apply more severe reference restrictions to DYK than TFA. I do agree with you on the Jean Gillie bit, though. It was just a proposal to allow multiple articles to fit into the same hook, which seems appropriate given all the discussion on backlog at the project's talk page. I'll see about just nominating Gillie separately. GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 17:36, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Could also include another new article by Draggleduck to make the following: "... that Jean Gillie's final part in a British film was in Flight from Folly, one of the BFI's 75 Most-Wanted Films? GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 20:24, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Peachtree Presbyterian Church
- ... that, by the end of the 20th century, the Peachtree Presbyterian megachurch had the largest Presbyterian congregation of any church in the United States?
Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 18:17, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
The article barely scrapes past the 1,500 minimum. I've added sources that support the congregation being the largest Presbyterian church in 2000, and the hook should be modified to state that "as of 2000 (or whatever date is most recently available), Peachtree Presbyterian Church was the largest..." so that the claim is more clearly stated. It might also be helpful to add the size of the congregation in terms of membership to the hook. Alansohn (talk) 20:05, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- I've added in "by the end of the 20th century", as "by 2000" made it seem like I was referring to the size of the congregation itself. I don't think the hook needs to mention the specific size so long as it's mentioned in the article itself; but then my personal preference with hooks tends towards brevity. GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 21:52, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Wag-Aero CUBy
- ... that the designer of the Wag-Aero CUBy aircraft flew one to 20,000 ft to show that it wouldn't suffer vapor lock from using automotive fuel as a power source?
Created by FlugKerl (talk), Ahunt (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 17:41, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- Not sure on "interestingness" of this. If anyone has any better suggestions, feel free to make them! :) GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 17:41, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Albanian Revolt of 1844
- ... that the Ottoman replacement of Albanian-speaking pashas in 1844 led to a rebellion?
Created by Aigest (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 17:09, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Catherine Chipembere
- ... that Catherine Chipembere was the first woman elected to the Malawi Parliament?
Created by MsTingaK (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 14:39, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Good to go. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 15:58, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Dzanga-Ndoki National Park, Dzanga-Sangha Special Reserve, Dzanga-Sangha Complex of Protected Areas, Nouabalé-Ndoki National Park, Lobéké National Park
- ... that Dzanga-Ndoki National Park and Dzanga-Sangha Special Reserve of the Dzanga-Sangha Complex of Protected Areas in the Central African Republic form the Sangha Tri National Landscape (pictured) with Nouabalé-Ndoki National Park in the Republic of Congo and Lobéké National Park in Cameroon?
5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 08:57, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Robert Abbott (game designer)
- ... that Robert Abbott is the inventor of logic mazes (pictured)?
5x expanded by Hi878 (talk). Self nom at 04:16, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Dates, expansion, and sourcing all look good. --Allen3 talk 23:18, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Giuseppe Campanari
- ... that cellist Giuseppe Campanari (pictured) sang as a baritone in the first American performances of the operas Falstaff and Pagliacci?
Created by Mike hayes (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 20:56, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
date, length and hook check out. The reference for the American premiere of Falstaff from an offline reference book accepted in good faith and is corroborated by my hard copy of Baker's Dictionary of Opera. Voceditenore (talk) 14:22, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- If anyone can figure out a good way to work a mention of Gustav Hinrichs into the nom (he conducted Campanari's performance of Paglacci), we could kill two birds with one stone. GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 21:42, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Catherine Destivelle
- ... that in 1992 French mountaineer Catherine Destivelle became the first woman to complete a solo ascent of the Eiger's north face (pictured)?
- Comment: The hook is based on the 2nd sentence of the article. Current character count = 1982 (not counting the lists of notable ascents and publications).
5x expanded by Voceditenore (talk). Self nom at 09:36, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Expansion, date and ref all check out. Good work. Ericoides 21:08, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Battle of Landriano
- ... that after the Battle of Landriano, the French monarch Francis I was forced to concede defeat in the War of the League of Cognac?
Created by History6969 (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 16:59, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
I don't see this hook being mentioned directly anywhere in the article, unless you want the reader to infer this from the lead (which is not a good idea in the context of DYK imo). Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 16:04, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- I suppose one could rephrase it as "...that shortly after the Battle of Landriano, the forces of the French monarch Francis I capitulated entirely and withdrew from the War of the League of Cognac?", which is referenced in the "Background" section, but the essence of the blurb is the same. I prefer the original wording, though. GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 17:29, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
William Harrison Rice, Wananalua Congregational Church
- ... that missionary teacher William Harrison Rice engineered and supervised construction of the first irrigation system for sugar cane in the Hawaiian Islands?
- ALT1:... that William Harrison Rice was one of the first secular teachers at the Punahou School?
- Comment: the picture is in the case that ALT1 is chosen over the original.
Created by W Nowicki (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 01:18, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- I was about to nominate it myself with another related one, and then noticed it was already here. A combined hook would be something like:
- ALT2:... that after teaching at Wānanalua Church and Punahou School, William Harrison Rice managed the first irrigation system for sugar plantations in Hawaii?
- W Nowicki (talk) 00:45, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- length, date, and references for both hooks check out. I prefer the original hook. Nice article! Good to go. Voceditenore (talk) 10:01, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- I'd say with the backlog, anything that reasonably lets us combine articles into a single nom is appreciated. GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 16:52, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- Also uploaded an old picture of him, better than nothing, especially at such a small size W Nowicki (talk) 18:02, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- Now that ALT 2 (combining 2 new articles) has been added I agree this would preferable. Voceditenore (talk) 08:28, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Stand Up (Scribe song), Not Many, List of number-one singles from the 2000s (New Zealand)
- ... that Scribe's single "Stand Up"/"Not Many" was the number-one single in New Zealand for twelve weeks?
Created by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 23:37, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- NOTE:List of number-one singles from the 2000s (New Zealand) was 5x expanded on 17 September, while Not Many and Stand Up (Scribe song) were created on 19 September.
- Strongly suggest you split the 2000s main list into smaller lists if possible, it's very long and has over 500 refs.
Otherwise, all three meet criteria and hook is sourced. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 16:13, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Strongly suggest you split the 2000s main list into smaller lists if possible, it's very long and has over 500 refs.
Nembe Kingdom
- ... that European traders originally called the Nembe Kingdom "Brass", after the local phrase for turning down a trade?
Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 20:43, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Looks good AGF offline refs Victuallers (talk) 17:12, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Harrisburg, Utah
- ... that Harrisburg, now a ghost town in Utah, was named after an early resident named Moses, and most of its residents left by 1895 due to grasshopper plagues and floods?
Created by The Utahraptor (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 22:30, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Reference for the floods is offline and taken in good faith. Naming of the town and the grasshoppers checks out, as do length and age. Could almost work on April Fools' Day. Good to go! GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 21:58, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Ian David Benardo
- ... that, after being rejected for the American Idol talent show, Ian David Benardo demanded to see panel judge Simon Cowell's work visa?
Created by Parammon (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 16:48, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Good work, ready Adabow (talk · contribs) 06:58, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Minuscule 482
- ... that Minuscule 482 (pictured) was written by an inaccurate copyist?
5x expanded by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 12:59, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
New enough, however the number of prose characters only gets up to the required level (6440) if the list of readings are included. These are not prose, and should be bulleted (*). Also, hook is unexplained ('inaccurate copyist' - I think it is meant to be 'an inaccurate copyist' - not sure) and unlinked, and in the article it is still unexplained, and is unreferenced. Adabow (talk · contribs) 00:55, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- OK I'll try to expand it, as I have 2 days. Inaccuracy of scribe is explained in last paragraph of section Description (Homoioteleuton, transpositions of words, and synonymous words are constantly substituted, incorrect spelling, inconsistency in spelling). There is also citation "the scribe was far from accurate copyist". Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 01:32, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- I made extra work. Now it is more than 5x expansion in prose. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 17:26, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Good to go now. The article could do with a quick copy-edit, though. Adabow (talk · contribs) 04:44, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Manny Martin
- ... that former American football player Manny Martin made the Buffalo Bills team in 1996, despite being considered "the longest of long shots"?
- ALT1:... that former American football player Manny Martin formerly played for the Houston Oilers and Ottawa Rough Riders before joining the Buffalo Bills in 1996?
- ALT2:... that former American football player Manny Martin is currently a high school football coach?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 02:10, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Size and age are good to go. First hook seems the most interesting, but who gave the quote? Online news article referenced but need to log in. Other hooks' references are fine. Adabow (talk · contribs) 00:47, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- Buffalo News reporter Allen Wilson did. Secret Saturdays (talk to me)what's new? 00:58, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- I think it would be better to have the following (or similar), so that it is attributed to someone:
- Buffalo News reporter Allen Wilson did. Secret Saturdays (talk to me)what's new? 00:58, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- ... that former American football player Manny Martin made the Buffalo Bills team in 1996, despite being considered by media as "the longest of long shots"?
- I would like the hook you suggested. Secret Saturdays (talk to me)what's new? 23:17, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Ready to roll, then. Adabow (talk · contribs) 06:55, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Grilled Cheesus
- ... that Glee co-creator Ryan Murphy predicts that the upcoming episode "Grilled Cheesus" will be the "most controversial episode of the series to date"?
Created by Yvesnimmo (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 01:48, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Size good, new enough, hook cited, but "most controversial episode of the series to date" doesn't need quote marks. Adabow (talk · contribs) 00:41, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- ... that the Sanok Castle (pictured) was the seat of Isabella Jagiellon, queen of Hungary after her escape from Transylvania?
Created by BurgererSF (talk) 16:32, 18 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 16:32, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- ready. Dincher (talk) 21:56, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Mickey Mangham
- ... that Mickey Mangham, a walk-on player from Maryland, scored the only touchdown in the 1959 Sugar Bowl to secure a national championship for the undefeated 1958 LSU Tigers football team?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 06:27, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- ready. Dincher (talk) 21:58, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
W. Scott Wilkinson
- ... that former Louisiana State Rep. W. Scott Wilkinson of Shreveport argued in the 1950s for states rights regarding tidelands oil revenues and school desegregation?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:51, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
That hook is true, but slightly misleading. As it stands, it scans to me that he argued for desegregation, while he actually argued in favour of maintaining segregation. A slight reword, perhaps? GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 14:41, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
HNoMS Mjølner (1868)
- ... that after the Norwegian monitor Mjølner ran aground in 1869 the court of inquiry found the ship's commander and the pilot liable for the repairs, but the parliament cancelled the debt two years later?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 00:41, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
The hook, at 228 characters, is over the 200 limit. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:50, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- Shortened, but I'm mildly concerned that people won't be able to figure out which parliament.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:23, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Reginald Pinney
- ... that Major-General Sir Reginald Pinney was the subject of Siegfried Sassoon's 1917 poem The General, as the "cheery old card" who smiled to his men as they "slogged up to Arras"?
- ALT1:... that Major-General Sir Reginald Pinney was called a "bun-pinching crank" by one of his soldiers, after he refused to issue his division with a ration of rum?
Created by Shimgray (talk). Self nom at 00:18, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... Major-General Sir Reginald Pinney was the "cheery old card" of a Siegfried Sassoon poem, but a "bun-pinching crank" according to one disgruntled NCO? Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:25, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Length, style are OK, and hook refs accepted agf Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:25, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2 has "was" twice. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 14:43, 18 September 2010 (UTC) fixed Victuallers (talk) 18:55, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- I'm tempted to go with the first rather than an amalgam of the two - the poem's the hook, and "cheery old card" is the direct reference to Pinney, but it probably needs "slogged up to Arras" to identify the poem for most readers; it's well known, but not usually by the title. YMMV! (I've added an image, as well. PD.) Shimgray | talk | 14:45, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Bully Creek (Malheur River)
- ... that an irrigation dam failed on Bully Creek in 1925, flooding the city of Vale, Oregon with 3 feet (1 m) of water and causing $500,000 in damage?
Created by Little Mountain 5 (talk). Self nom at 23:19, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- ready. Dincher (talk) 22:00, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Francis Land House
- ... that the National Historic Place plantation-era museum Francis Land House has a Georgian style exterior but a Federal style interior?
Created/expanded by Rlevse (talk). Self nom at 21:42, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Other hooks possible. — Rlevse • Talk • 21:44, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Dates, lengths, and sourcing all look good. --Allen3 talk 23:13, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
James Davidson (Kentucky)
- ... that James Davidson was one of the first people to report the presence of the notorious outlaws, the Harpe brothers, in the state of Kentucky?
Created by Acdixon (talk). Self nom at 20:47, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Article too short. Article is below the minimum size of 1500 characters of readable prose. --Allen3 talk 23:05, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Samuel South
- ... that, at age 12, Samuel South and another youth were sent by the women of Fort Boonesborough to call for help in defending the fort, touching off the Battle of Little Mountain?
Created by Acdixon (talk). Self nom at 20:39, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
New enough, long enough, referenced enough, hook is interesting and appropriately referenced, and offline reference AGF. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:54, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Chris Clarke (missionary)
- ... that the Southern Baptist missionary Chris Clarke carries the gospel to equestrian events, mostly in his home state of Kentucky?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Nominated by Billy Hathorn (talk) at 19:08, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
White Stag (clothing)
- ... that the Wal-Mart brand of women's clothing White Stag was originally a company that manufactured downhill skiing apparel in Portland, Oregon in the 1930s?
Created by Esprqii (talk). Nominated by Esprqii (talk) at 18:57, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Dates, lengths, and sourcing all look good. --Allen3 talk 23:02, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Al LaMacchia
- ... that as a Major League Baseball scout for decades, Al LaMacchia wouldn't use computers, radar guns or stop watches as scouting tools, saying "I trust my eyes... Been good so far"?
5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 18:39, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Dates, length, and sourcing all look good. --Allen3 talk 16:01, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
The Color of Crime
- ... that in The Color of Crime, Katheryn Russell-Brown defines a racial hoax as occurring when someone fabricates a crime and blames it on another person because of their race or when an actual crime has been committed and the perpetrator falsely blames someone because of their race?
Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 17:36, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Hook is 280 characters, way over the limit of 200. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:50, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- ... that in The Color of Crime, Katheryn Russell-Brown writes that crime and young black men have become synonymous in the American mind, giving rise to the "criminalblackman" stereotype?
- Suggest that this nom and the one for criminal black man be combined into a two-article hook, to help with the backlog. EdChem (talk) 17:06, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Admiralty scaffolding
- ... that in 1940, England was protected by 15,000 miles of scaffold tubing?
Created by Gaius Cornelius (talk). Self nom at 17:13, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Doesn't meet size requirements. Page has notice questioning notability. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 17:59, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Are you sure? It seems long enough... --Diego Grez (talk) 18:04, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Article is over two thousand characters, and there aren't any problem tags of any sort. It's just been moved to mainspace today, so I see nothing wrong with the content. I've not checked the references, so I can't approve this, but it looks fine to me. Nyttend backup (talk) 18:29, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Are you sure? It seems long enough... --Diego Grez (talk) 18:04, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Length, style OK. Book refs accepted agf. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:28, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Rally to Restore Sanity
- ... that Jon Stewart's Rally to Restore Sanity is also billed as a "Million Moderate March"?
created User:RockMFR contributors User:AMuseoUser:Shrekums User:Zhmort Self nom at 17 September 2010 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that Jon Stewart's Rally to Restore Sanity will go head-to-head with Stephen Colbert's March to Keep Fear Alive?
- PLEASE NOTE: Both "rallies" linked above are redirects to the same article: 2010 Stewart–Colbert rallies. We shouldn't be giving readers a surprise by linking to the same article twice. Zunaid 17:57, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Jon Stewart's Rally to restore Sanity will go head-to-head with Stephen Colbert's March to Keep Fear Alive?
Darwin's bark spider
- ... that Darwin's bark spider makes the longest known spider web (pictured), spanning distances of up to 25 metres, using the toughest known biomaterial, that is ten times as tough as kevlar?
- Comment: I will add a picture from the PLoS paper in a couple of days once I'm at a computer that can crop them.
Created by Steamroller Assault (talk), Smartse (talk). Nominated by Smartse (talk) at 15:53, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- I've added the photo. Smartse (talk) 14:59, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Date, length (1900 characters) and references for the hook check out. Note that I changed "largest" to "longest" in the hook as that is what's supported by the ref. If "largest" is used it needs to say "one of the largest" per the ref. Voceditenore (talk) 14:43, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
John Logan (pioneer)
- ... that John Logan, the first treasurer of the U.S. state of Kentucky, at times had to take out personal loans in order to pay the state's obligations?
Created by Acdixon (talk). Self nom at 14:59, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
The reference says no more than that Logan "had to borrow money to meet government operating expenses." I don't think that it can be inferred that they represented some sort of personal obligation on his part. Mangoe (talk) 16:18, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- I really doubt it would have been mentioned at all if it meant the state had to borrow money; I don't think that's ever been all that extraordinary. Still, as an alternate hook, how about "... that Harry Innes refused to prosecute John Logan for attacking a group of Cherokee in violation of the Treaty of Hopewell, citing Logan's recovery of stolen items from the Cherokee as proof of wrongdoing on their part?" A little awkward, I guess, but maybe it can be cleaned up. Acdixon (talk • contribs • count) 17:06, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
De Garmo Jones
- ... that Detroit mayor De Garmo Jones was eulogized as "a sort of western Vanderbilt, with a great big head"?
Created by Andrew Jameson (talk). Nominated by Andrew Jameson (talk) at 14:09, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Cool hook but article is at 1215 characters. The block quotes don't count as prose.--NortyNort (Holla) 11:35, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- OK, the article has been updated to ~1800 characters without the block quote. Andrew Jameson (talk) 18:21, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Verified, AGF on the Google book.--NortyNort (Holla) 21:27, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Dulit Frogmouth
- ... that the Dulit Frogmouth forms a superspecies with the Large Frogmouth?
5x expanded by Maias (talk). Self nom at 13:18, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Looks OK. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 23:58, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Racial hoax
- ... that the case of Charles Stuart, a white man who murdered his wife and pretended that a black man did it, is often cited as an example of a racial hoax?
Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 11:23, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Verified. AGF on the pages I can't see in the preview.--NortyNort (Holla) 09:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
ORP Gryf (1944)
- ... that the Polish Navy ship Gryf (pictured) was converted from a cargo ship to a training and hospital ship in 152 days during 1951?
Created/expanded by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 07:42, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Insufficient recent expansion. Has only been expanded by ~3.4x ( 2739 / 810) since December 8, 2009. --Allen3 talk 15:55, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Robert Rompre
- ... that Robert Rompre was drafted by the Marines but was allowed to play for the U.S. men's ice hockey team at the 1952 Winter Olympics where he set a record by scoring four goals in a single game?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 01:56, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Verified. Cool. --NortyNort (Holla) 09:38, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Thomas Riggs, Jr.
- ... that under the leadership of Governor Thomas Riggs, Jr., Alaska Territory was a leader in the sale of both war savings stamps and Liberty Bonds?
- ALT1:... that Alaska Territorial Governor Thomas Riggs, Jr. led the team which surveyed the Alaskan-Canadaian border from the Pacific to Arctic Ocean?
5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 00:26, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Samuel Thomas Hauser
- ... that American Industrialist Samuel T. Hauser (pictured) lobbied for creation of Yellowstone National Park after he prospected along the Yellowstone River?
- ALT1:... that in order to spend more time with his business interests, Montana Territorial Governor Samuel T. Hauser (pictured) delegated most of his duties to his personal secretary?
5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 00:19, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 16
Godwin-Knowles House
- ... that the Godwin-Knowles House was built as a home for an industrialist in East Liverpool, Ohio, but was later converted into a Masonic lodge?
Created by Nyttend (talk), Doncram (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 14:47, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Sourcing: the industrialist bit comes from the second citation to source #2 (first sentence, second paragraph), while the Masonic bit comes from the final citation to the same source (second sentence, final paragraph). Nyttend (talk) 14:48, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Length checks out, sourcing is offline and taken on good faith. Nomination is in the wrong section, but still in date, so I'll take the liberty of shifting it there. Good to go! GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 22:04, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- At any rate, I expanded it more than five times on the date in which I listed it, so the date wouldn't have been a problem. Thanks! Nyttend (talk) 21:16, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
The Most Hated Family in America
- ... that Louis Theroux traveled to Kansas to interview members of the Westboro Baptist Church for the documentary film The Most Hated Family in America?
5x expanded by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 04:04, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Date and 5x expansion check out. Offline reference accepted in good faith (very similar statements can be found in multiple reliable online sources, e.g. [4]. Good job in expanding, referencing and rescuing the article from this AfD. Voceditenore (talk) 15:05, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Franklin D. Roosevelt Four Freedoms Park
- ... that Four Freedoms Park is being built from plans found in the architect's pocket when he died of a heart attack?
Created by DVD R W (talk), AMuseo (talk). Nominated by AMuseo (talk) at 19:24, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Well short of the required 5x expansion for enlarged existing articles. Article contained 6074 characters of readable prose on June 30, 2010 and now only contains 1880 characters of readable prose.--Allen3 talk 15:49, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- The text of the article had been taken directly from another site, on the 16th of this month it was started from scratch. DVD 18:55, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
H. R. Stevens House
- ... that the H. R. Stevens House (pictured) in New City, New York, shows the convergence of Dutch and English building traditions?
5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 06:03, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Unforgiven (2001)
- ... that a match at the World Wrestling Federation's Unforgiven (2001) event resulted from the destruction of a mop?
Created by Richard "Wrestler" Lopez (talk). Nominated by GaryColemanFan (talk) at 16:15, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Meyrick Helmet
- ... that the Meyrick Helmet combines the shape of a Roman auxiliary helmet with Celtic La Tène style decoration?
Created by BabelStone (talk). Self nom at 00:00, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Dates and length both good. AGF of offline sourcing. --Allen3 talk 15:42, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Micky Flanagan
- ... that comedian Micky Flanagan's first job was packing fish at Billingsgate Fish Market?
Created by January (talk). Self nom at 19:05, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Dates, length, and sourcing all look good. --Allen3 talk 15:40, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
anything more interesting? — Rlevse • Talk • 00:21, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Xerochrysum bracteatum
- ... that golden-flowered Australian native daisy Xerochrysum bracteatum was developed into a wide variety of colours in Arnstadt, Germany in the 1850s?
5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 14:17, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Good to go, AGF for the hook. Smartse (talk) 15:17, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Bideford Bay
- ... that the coastline of Bideford Bay (pictured) incorporates both 200-foot high cliffs and the largest dune system in England?
Created by Geopersona (talk). Nominated by Ghmyrtle (talk) at 13:41, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Source states they are amongst the largest in the country.--NortyNort (Holla) 11:22, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Good spot. This states "largest in England", but this states "one of the largest in Britain". There are refs for either, but it may be safest to go for:
- ALT:"
... that the coastline of Bideford Bay (pictured) incorporates both 200-foot high cliffs and one of the largest dune systems in Britain?
- Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:37, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 good to go. --NortyNort (Holla) 08:20, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
SMS Preussen (1903)
- ... that a 63 m (207 ft) length of hull of the German battleship Preussen, a veteran of World War I, was used as a torpedo target before being bombed and sunk by Allied bombers during World War II?
5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 03:23, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Verified. AGF on the offline reference. --NortyNort (Holla) 09:27, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Princess Marie Elisabeth of Saxe-Meiningen
- ... that at the 1878 wedding of her brother, Princess Marie Elisabeth of Saxe-Meiningen (pictured) composed a piece of music specially meant for the occasion?
Created by Ruby2010 (talk) 21:22, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that in 1892 Princess Marie Elisabeth of Saxe-Meiningen (pictured) composed a Romanze in F major for clarinet and piano which had been influenced by the teachings of Johannes Brahms?
For the original hook, there is no citation at the end of the sentence. Is it referenced by #10? --NortyNort (Holla) 09:30, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hmmmm....I believe source # 10 is the correct reference of the first hook. If that isn't enough to verify it, you can always use the second hook I provided. Thanks, Ruby2010 (talk) 22:58, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
West Baden Springs Hotel
- ... that the domed atrium of Indiana's West Baden Springs Hotel was the largest free-spanning dome in the United States for over 50 years and the world from 1902-1913?
5x expanded by Mgreason (talk). Self nom at 20:57, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Nice work. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 02:19, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment. I've changed the name of the DYK expander to User:Mgreason since User:User obviously did not make any edits to the page. —CodeHydro 20:26, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Cheiralgia paresthetica
- ... that clinical studies of cheiralgia paresthetica resulting from handcuffing are hampered by the inebriated subjects?
Created by Mangoe (talk). Self nom at 18:25, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Based off of the source text: "Fortythree percent of these subjects were under the influence of alcohol when handcuffed, which in some cases interfered with obtaining a detailed history and physical examination.", I wouldn't say a high proportion hampered the study. Maybe just "hampered by inebriated subjects?"--NortyNort (Holla) 08:32, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Changed as suggested. Mangoe (talk) 10:21, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Verified. Neat article. --NortyNort (Holla) 10:36, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
James E. Winner Jr.
- ... that James E. Winner Jr. created The Club (pictured in use), an anti-theft device for cars that had sold 14 million units by 1994 with the slogan "If you can't steer it, you can't steal it"?
5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:57, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Would be a great hook for The Club article, but as it stands the actual DYK article reference to James E. Winner Jr. is removable Jebus989✰ 10:20, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not sure that I see the same issue, but here's ALT1 - "that James E. Winner Jr. created The Club (pictured in use) based on his Korean War experience of chains being put on the steering wheels of jeeps to prevent their unauthorized use?" Alansohn (talk) 18:35, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
1973 shooting in South Jamaica, Queens
- ... that Thomas Shea was the first New York city policeman ever to be tried for murder on duty due to his role in the 1973 shooting in South Jamaica, Queens?
Created by e2eamon (talk). Self nom at 14:06, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- alt 1 ... that Clifford Glover was, at the time of the 1973 shooting in South Jamaica, Queens, the youngest person ever killed by an on duty New York city policeman?
Don Randi
- ... that pianist and session musician Don Randi claims to have played on over three hundred hit records?
Created by Ghmyrtle (talk). Self nom at 13:43, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Length, date and hook ref verified. —Bruce1eetalk 11:02, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
U.S. Route 2 in Michigan
- ... that a new section of U.S. Highway 2 in Michigan was detoured around the Cut River Bridge (pictured) when the latter was delayed due to World War II?
13.7x expanded by Imzadi1979 (talk). Nominated by Imzadi1979 (talk) at 02:46, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Everything's fine, but I think the hook might be a bit vague ("delayed do to WWII"). Perhaps mention the steel shortages. --E♴ (talk) 14:03, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 15
The distance (boxing)
... that "to go the distance" in boxing means to last 12 rounds without being knocked out?
- ALT1:... that critics of the 12 round championship distance in boxing contend that deaths from brain injuries are more due to dehydration than the number of rounds fought?
- Comment: Article was nominated for deletion, then flagged for the Articles Rescue Squadron. Greatly expanded by rescuers before the close of the AfD, defaulting to keep.
5x expanded by Codehydro (talk), Colonel Warden (talk). Nominated by Codehydro (talk) at 03:22, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Valiant efforts but the article was only expanded 3x; 1480 characters (252 words) "readable prose size" on 9 September edit prior to expansion. 4472 characters on 20 September version I just checked. --NortyNort (Holla) 09:16, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- The auto-length checkers seems not to have taken into account the readable text in {{Template:Quote}}. Nonetheless, I have even more greatly expanded the article, especially with the Speculation regarding change section after reading your comment. Thanks for letting me know. Based on the new section, I've though of another possible hook:
- ALT2:... that, with today's 12-round distance, the Fight of the Century would have the opposite result and Rocky Marciano wouldn't have become the only heavyweight champion to retire undefeated?
- I think either of the alts are better than the original, so I'm crossing that out. What do you think? —CodeHydro 17:53, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Cross of All Nations
- ... that the 73.8 metres (242 ft) tall Cross of All Nations located near the Lebanese town of Baskinta is the largest lit cross in the world?
Created by Eli+. Self nom at 21:29, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
The article is under 1500 characters of prose. Can you add a little more please? —Bruce1eetalk 08:47, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- I expanded the body a bit, it is now over 1500 characters, added an infobox + some fixes, thank you.Eli+ 17:01, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. Length and date verified, Arabic refs accepted in good faith. You could add the picture, it is quite dramatic. —Bruce1eetalk 07:21, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Criminal black man
- ... that Linda G. Tucker wrote that portrayals of criminal black men perpetuate the view that "a nigger is not a person so much as a form of behaviour"?
Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 20:49, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Suggestion. Shouldn't this really be merged into Stereotypes of African Americans? Just a thought. Cbl62 (talk) 03:25, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- I believe it notable enough to stand on its own. Christopher Connor (talk) 14:18, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Suggest that this nom and the one for The Color of Crime be combined into a two-article hook, to help with the backlog. EdChem (talk) 17:08, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- I resist this suggestion. I like this hook just as it is and they refer to different things, one a book, the other a stereotype. Christopher Connor (talk) 18:44, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Mafeking Mooch
- ... the Mafeking Mooch was an affected style of walking performed by some British men to convey the impression they had suffered an injury during the celebrated Siege of Mafeking?
Created by Linda Peston (talk). Nominated by De728631 (talk) at 20:34, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Poorly cited - only two citations from one source. The main paragraph describing the "mooch" is not cited at all. Citation used at end of last paragraph makes it unclear how much of paragraph uses that for a citation. Aren't there any other references that also could be used? I modified (shortened) hook. Should time period also be added to hook? Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 00:29, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I had first added the time period to the hook but that made it too long. And if two references from a reliable source are insufficient for an article of that length it only confirms my point of view that inline referencing is really overrated on WP. De728631 (talk) 18:11, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- The time period is familiar in the UK and South Africa and it would certainly count as standard "global" general knowledge compared to the background knowledge (usually US-centric) required for many DYKs... You could drop the "some British men" though. Le Deluge (talk) 23:52, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I had first added the time period to the hook but that made it too long. And if two references from a reliable source are insufficient for an article of that length it only confirms my point of view that inline referencing is really overrated on WP. De728631 (talk) 18:11, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
linaclotide
- ... that linaclotide has shown promise in clinical trials as a treatment for irritable bowel syndrome with constipation, a condition that may affect as many as 10 million Americans?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 13:55, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
'shown promise' is perhaps a bit weasely Jebus989✰ 09:08, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- Understood. Let's try ALT1 "that linaclotide has shown statisically significant improvement in treating irritable bowel syndrome with constipation, a condition that affects as many as 10 million Americans?" Alansohn (talk) 19:31, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
1926 Chatham Cup
- ... that three of the four semi-final teams in New Zealand's 1926 Chatham Cup knockout soccer competition represented mental hospitals?
5x expanded by Grutness (talk). Self nom at 10:41, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- PS - the article's pretty rough'n'ready, so if this fails I won't be too upset :) Unfortunately the only information about the early years of the competition are from old newspaper columns - no-one at the time seems to have thought that keeping the records was worthwhile :/ Grutness...wha?
While the table's been expanded recently, the prose section of the article hasn't really grown fivefold from how it looked before you left it in August, I'm afraid. GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 22:27, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- ah well. A shame - since I've been expanding it from zero by increments when I've had time (it takes hours to find the smallest fact, unfortunately). And it did seem a fascinating fact. But yeah, most of the expansion's been on the results. Grutness...wha? 23:56, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 14
1990–91 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that the 1990–91 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team Led the Big Ten Conference in three-point field goals made?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 13:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
comment whilst it is nice to get an article in the DYK section, it is making a mockery of the process to add similar topics all from the same nom all in one go --Senra (Talk) 15:38, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Article well below the minimum size of 1500 characters of readable prose. --Allen3 talk 16:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- It does not appear that I will be able to expand this to 1500 chars. I hope to include it unofficially in a multi nom.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:52, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- See proposal at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Michigan basketball overload, part 2. Cbl62 (talk) 02:19, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Article does not meet character minimum. Nomader (Talk) 01:07, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
1993–94 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team & 1994–95 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that the 1993–94 and 1994–95 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team established the Michigan Wolverines men's basketball single-season and single-game steals records, respectively?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 13:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
comment whilst it is nice to get an article in the DYK section, it is making a mockery of the process to add similar topics all from the same nom all in one go --Senra (Talk) 15:37, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Nomination includes an article well below the minimum of 1500 characters of readable prose. --Allen3 talk 16:45, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- I believe both articles are now sufficient.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:03, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
1995–96 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that the 1995–96 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team had four players drafted in the NBA Draft?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 13:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
comment whilst it is nice to get an article in the DYK section, it is making a mockery of the process to add similar topics all from the same nom all in one go --Senra (Talk) 13:41, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Article well below the minimum size of 1500 characters of readable prose. --Allen3 talk 16:46, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- Article should be sufficient now.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:10, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Not expanded by x5 in 5 days Victuallers (talk) 16:43, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Is this a new rule being applied. It is quite common to notify someon that their article is not long enough and request expansion, which commonly occurs after day 5.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- I have seen it happen, but I always assumed it was for inexperienced DYK'ers and that we were being generous. How long do you think the current process allows this to happen? You seem to imply above that you realise that there is a limit. Can you explain your understanding or how flexible this rule is? Victuallers (talk) 21:41, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- It has always been my experience that whenever I have created an article and nominate it before making 1500 chars or 5x, they give me a reminder (almost always after 5 days is up) and then I expand the article. None have ever been rejected if I have done so while the date is still in play and Sept 14 is still in play. In fact, Sept 12 is still in play. Basically, you have until all other hooks from that date and older have been resolved. If you are still short then rejecting on legnth is appropriate. There is no written rule about this, but that is the commonly applied rule. Since September 14 articles are still being considered and mine are now up to snuff, they are now supposed to be marked as acceptable and ready for use.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:39, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- P.S. I may be offline for the next 24 hours starting in about 15 or 20 minutes. I apologize that I did not further condense my noms, but 6 of the 9 are in multis already. I do not oppose multis, I am just pressed by family obligations this week.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:42, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- It has always been my experience that whenever I have created an article and nominate it before making 1500 chars or 5x, they give me a reminder (almost always after 5 days is up) and then I expand the article. None have ever been rejected if I have done so while the date is still in play and Sept 14 is still in play. In fact, Sept 12 is still in play. Basically, you have until all other hooks from that date and older have been resolved. If you are still short then rejecting on legnth is appropriate. There is no written rule about this, but that is the commonly applied rule. Since September 14 articles are still being considered and mine are now up to snuff, they are now supposed to be marked as acceptable and ready for use.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:39, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- I have seen it happen, but I always assumed it was for inexperienced DYK'ers and that we were being generous. How long do you think the current process allows this to happen? You seem to imply above that you realise that there is a limit. Can you explain your understanding or how flexible this rule is? Victuallers (talk) 21:41, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Is this a new rule being applied. It is quite common to notify someon that their article is not long enough and request expansion, which commonly occurs after day 5.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- See proposal at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Michigan basketball overload, part 2. Cbl62 (talk) 02:20, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Unfortunately, this was not within limit before September 19th, which was when it would have qualified for new article status if it had at least 1500 characters. This article would then have to qualify under 5x, and it failed to do so-- feel free to dispute this on the talk page. Nomader (Talk) 01:12, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
1997–98 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that the 1997–98 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team is one of only two Michigan Wolverines men's basketball teams to have defeated a number one ranked team?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 13:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
comment whilst it is nice to get an article in the DYK section, it is making a mockery of the process to add similar topics all from the same nom all in one go --Senra (Talk) 13:41, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- See proposal at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Michigan basketball overload, part 2. Cbl62 (talk) 02:16, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
How does the PDF reference that's cited for the hook give that information at all? All the pages listed show are Michigan's rankings at various times during the year-- at no point does it state how many times Michigan beat certain ranks. Is it maybe on a different page? Nomader (Talk) 01:15, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
1991–92 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team & 1992–93 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that the 1991–92 and 1992–93 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball teams finishes as national runners-up in the NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament
5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 13:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
comment whilst it is nice to get an article in the DYK section, it is making a mockery of the process to add similar topics all from the same nom all in one go --Senra (Talk) 13:41, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Insufficient expansion. First article has only been expanded by ~3.7x (4660 vs 1261 on September 8). Second article has only been expanded by ~3.9x (3891 vs 1004 on September 8). --Allen3 talk 16:50, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- Are these O.K. now?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:15, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
expansion too late - x5 in 5 days Victuallers (talk) 16:46, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Again. Are you making up a new rule?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:36, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
1991-92 article is definitely still short of expansion, 5593 chars now (6305 needed according to what's been said above). Also, to quote WP:DYK#Selection criteria 1b: "Former redirects, stubs, or other short articles in which the prose portion has been expanded fivefold or more within the last five days". Based on this, expansion has taken place over more than five says and Victuallers above would be right to decline the nomination. But I'm leaving it open since there's discussion at WT:DYK over this hook amongst others. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 15:32, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- It should be 5x now. I will return to the discussion on the other page.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:25, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
1996–97 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team & 1998–99 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that the 1996–97 and 1998–99 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball teams led the Big Ten Conference in both three-point field goals and free throw percentage?
5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 13:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
comment whilst it is nice to get an article in the DYK section, it is making a mockery of the process to add similar topics all from the same nom all in one go --Senra (Talk) 13:41, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Why not combine all six of these articles into one hook? A sextuple-barreled hook would work better than six single hooks on almost identical topics. Stonemason89 (talk) 14:41, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- I agree, we have quite a backlog right now, and we need to save space wherever possible. Gatoclass (talk) 05:38, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- Agree - this is getting ridiculous now. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:30, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- The overuse of Michigan Wolverines DYK hooks is already being noticed elsewhere. Personally, I think these should be rejected on that basis. I know Tony means well, and is doing this for points in the WikiCup, but seriously, it's time to find other topics to write and expand. Resolute 16:41, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- Agree - this is getting ridiculous now. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:30, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- We don't reject hooks just on the basis that there have been "too many" on the same subject. However, I think it would be a good idea for Tony to submit multis in such situations to help us deal with the backlog. Gatoclass (talk) 03:52, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- I certainly heavily contest rejecting for that sort of unacceptable reason. However, I would like to offer a hearty apology. My wikitime is somewhat limited by family commitments this week. I am attempting to round out these articles and expanded all of them a bit today. Not sure which ones are still too short, but I am going to attempt to expand these a bit more over the next two days.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:56, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- We don't reject hooks just on the basis that there have been "too many" on the same subject. However, I think it would be a good idea for Tony to submit multis in such situations to help us deal with the backlog. Gatoclass (talk) 03:52, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- Apology not accepted. I am finding it very hard to assume good faith here when, by submitting six articles in one day for vanity reasons, you are spoiling DYK for other editors and readers! I feel you should have spread these submission over six days or, as others have said, combine the articles into fewer hooks --Senra (Talk) 15:38, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- Senra, I think it's important to assume good faith here-- people have every right to send in as many articles as they want in however much time as they please so long as the articles meet the criteria and the hooks are mostly interesting. That said, finding a way to combine these hooks into one or two nice multis would be most appreciated, Tony, per the backlog right now. Nomader (Talk) 18:25, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- I second Nomader's opinion on this. By its very rules, there is only a 5-day window to make the nominations (with possible exceptions) and unless the nomination is made in that timeframe, the only way to make it later is a 5x expansion. Well, if the article has already been expanded 5x, you'd really ask for a 25x expansion at some point if the previous, and really only, window of opportunity is missed. Some article topics can't be expanded 5x at a later date. Senra, for whatever reasons you ascribe to Tony's actions, they are still working to improve the encyclopedia here. Just because the six nominations were made on the same day (since the six articles were created/expanded on the same day) doesn't mean they have to be run on the Main Page on the same day. We update four times a day, and the hooks could be run every other day to space them out further. Yes, it would be nice to combine them if possible, but cut us some slack. Will I be questioned next for my four current nominations on roadways in Michigan, even though each creation or expansion was made on different days, and thus appears in different date sections on this page? Imzadi 1979 → 18:38, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- I would suggest there is no problem with the nominations having been made, and we shouldn't question that they were made in good faith, but they should be approved [only] as a combined nom, and ideally Tony should help with arranging that (other reviewers have gone to some trouble arranging a combined nom for some of Tony's many other recent nominations) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:27, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- There is no rule, Tony. But listen to the consensus above. I'm hoping that we don't need to create a rule to prevent one user going even further and submitting (I exaggerate) 100 articles on the same subject. Victuallers (talk) 08:09, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- First of all be thankful that I spread my 50 articles over two or three weeks or so rather than all at once. Keep in mind that all of the top three scorers in the WP:CUP are doing the same type of articles for the most part. One does mushroom articles, one does battleships and you have me doing Michigan sports. I do them in waves because when researching teams of one era there is a lot of redundant research that can be done more efficiently at one time. People ganging up against Michigan articles is unfair unless you intend to reject mushroom and battleship articles too for being too redundant.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- I'd have the same reaction if someone broke down the history of a a single mushroom or battleship into different periods of its history. Am I to believe that 100 is not an exaggeration! and that next month the surviving cup people will be submitting even more? Maybe we do need a rule. Victuallers (talk) 22:54, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- A quick check of this year's WikiCup results shows Tony has claimed credit for 120 DYKs (10 in round 1, 8 in round 2, 19 in round 3, 43 in round 4, and 40 so far in the final round). They have not all been on Michigan Wolverines men's basketball teams, annual team articles for Oklahoma Sooners football teams and Michigan Wolverines football teams have were included in the mix. --Allen3 talk 23:28, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- I'd have the same reaction if someone broke down the history of a a single mushroom or battleship into different periods of its history. Am I to believe that 100 is not an exaggeration! and that next month the surviving cup people will be submitting even more? Maybe we do need a rule. Victuallers (talk) 22:54, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- First of all be thankful that I spread my 50 articles over two or three weeks or so rather than all at once. Keep in mind that all of the top three scorers in the WP:CUP are doing the same type of articles for the most part. One does mushroom articles, one does battleships and you have me doing Michigan sports. I do them in waves because when researching teams of one era there is a lot of redundant research that can be done more efficiently at one time. People ganging up against Michigan articles is unfair unless you intend to reject mushroom and battleship articles too for being too redundant.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- There is no rule, Tony. But listen to the consensus above. I'm hoping that we don't need to create a rule to prevent one user going even further and submitting (I exaggerate) 100 articles on the same subject. Victuallers (talk) 08:09, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- I would suggest there is no problem with the nominations having been made, and we shouldn't question that they were made in good faith, but they should be approved [only] as a combined nom, and ideally Tony should help with arranging that (other reviewers have gone to some trouble arranging a combined nom for some of Tony's many other recent nominations) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:27, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- Apology not accepted. I am finding it very hard to assume good faith here when, by submitting six articles in one day for vanity reasons, you are spoiling DYK for other editors and readers! I feel you should have spread these submission over six days or, as others have said, combine the articles into fewer hooks --Senra (Talk) 15:38, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 13
Kunzea sp. Wadbilliga
- ... that Badja carpet is actually a selected groundcover form of a low shrub from southeastern New South Wales?
- Comment: just thought it was a funny name
Created by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 02:27, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hmmm, it seems the "Badja Carpet" is related to a different species, Kunzea capitata. Gatoclass (talk) 05:29, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- To clarify - Badja carpet is a horticulturally selected form of Kunzea sp. Wadbilliga which has not been officially described in botanical literature but is related to Kunzea capitata. I'll reread and try to rewrite if it is unclear. Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:13, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Where does it say Badja Carpet is a horticulturally selected form of Kunzea sp. Wadbilliga? The cited sources don't seem to state that. Gatoclass (talk) 04:02, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- (facepalm) Crap, you're right. This comes of being too familiar with a subject and botanical and horticultural authorities not spelling it out. I will try to find something in the next few hours. Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:53, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Special occasion holding area
- Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.
For October 1
Wait for me, Daddy
![soldiers marching down the street with a boy chasing his father](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/British_Columbia_Regiment_1940.jpg/100px-British_Columbia_Regiment_1940.jpg)
- ... that while Pte. Jack Bernard was marching with his regiment, 70 years ago on October 1, 1940, little "Whitey” Bernard was photographed running after his father?
new by Esemono (talk). Self nom at 08:30, 05 September 2010 (UTC)
- Sourced to this newspaperarticle -- Esemono (talk) 05:56, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 - ... that 70 years ago on October 1, 1940, little "Whitey” Bernard was photographed running after his father who was marching to war?
and Canadian picture is OK too. Victuallers (talk) 15:54, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- At the risk of stating the obvious, this really ought to be the lead hook with image. BencherliteTalk 23:04, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
For 31 October, Hallowe'en
The 2010 Halloween collection has started early. My interpretation of whats happening is ... 1. Move your hook to the bottom of the page (ie here) 2. You may get some more macabre, funny etc suggestions for a hook and it should get DYKtick'ed. 3. Then after its been there about 24 hours or so it gets moved off to the dedicated page. 4. Then about three or four days before Oct 31 we sort out the 40 or so hooks into "8"s (so they are ready to load on the 36 hours or so that is Halloween internationally). 5. We do the awards and 6 .... and please help with all of this. It only works if we all do a bit Victuallers (talk) 08:22, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Thyreophora cynophila
- ... that the bone skipper came back from the dead after 160 years to feed on bones?
Created by Stemonitis (talk). Nominated by Smartse (talk) at 21:46, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
and great hook. Thanks Victuallers (talk) 21:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Ben Cooper, Inc.
- ... that Ben Cooper, Inc., the "Halston of Halloween", said it sold a scary 4 million Halloween costumes in 1990?
Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 01:07, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- "Halston" means nothing here ... you also have "High Priest of Halloween" ... I'd tic that? oops OK! Victuallers (talk) 07:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Halston means a lot in the fashion world. I've wikilinked it. (Don't forget to sign your post!) - Tim1965 (talk) 01:44, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Only in places where there's a JC Penney. Trust me, that subclause just doesn't work outside the US, and to be honest it's redundant, it could just be struck out entirely. Or as Victuallers says, the "high priest" version is a ready-made alternative that needs no knowledge of US culture, and thus is a better hook. WTGR Tim, you really need to think a bit more globally - 50% of en.wiki users are outside the US, and that proportion is growing. Le Deluge (talk) 08:54, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Devils River (Wisconsin)
- ... that Wisconsin's Devils River was known by the Ojibwe tribe as the "Stooping Spirit River"?
Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 13:47, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1.. that two U.S. Presidents nearly lost their lives in the Devils River?
- Just an idea Victuallers (talk) 07:40, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 is better. Or how about
- ALT2 ... that two American presidents nearly lost their souls to the Devils River? Le Deluge (talk) 08:56, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Just actually read the article - Jefferson Davis was never a president of the United States, but he was an "American", so I've tweaked the language a little. Le Deluge (talk) 09:10, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- I like ALT2. - Tim1965 (talk) 13:55, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
For January 1, 2011, Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation
- ALT1 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation represents the courage, valour, strength, cleanliness, truth, high moral standards and high level of motivation expected of FBI agents?
- ALT2 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation was first used on January 1, 1941 and represents the values, standards and history of the FBI and its agents?
Expanded and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
This nomination is a bit of a special case. I originally nominated Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on August 3 following a 5x expansion (see discussion above under #Articles created/expanded on August 3). Everyone accepted that it met the DYK criteria but the nomination was derailed by a political dispute over timing. I've put forward a compromise at User talk:Jimbo Wales#Compromise proposal, which involves passing this DYK now but scheduling its appearance on January 1, 2011, which is 60 years to the day since the seal was first used. This proposal has been generally welcomed so I'm putting it forward here for formal consideration. I'm aware that the timeframe is somewhat longer than would be usual for scheduled DYKs, but in the circumstances I think a some flexibility would be justified. I've put forward two possible hooks: the original one as proposed earlier, and a new alternative tying the DYK in more directly with the date. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification:
Are we nominating this (with whichever hook) sans image as you initially suggested on Jimbo's talk page?
--K10wnsta (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2010 (UTC)- Appended: I see that you removed the image from inclusion in the original nomination, so I'll assume this post-dated nomination would not include the image either. However, this necessitates further clarification:
- Are we excluding the image from this DYK solely because of the recent interaction with the FBI?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)- In effect yes, but in my view it's a necessary evil if we're to reach a satisfactory compromise on this issue. -- ChrisO (talk) 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- Tentative Even if the motivation behind qualifying this article for DYK was questionable, I think you already achieved not just a satisfactory compromise, but a completely valid and justifiable use for it. In fact, it's use is so valid, refusing to use the image for no other reason than the recent hoobajoo with the FBI is blatantly (chilled) censorship...and I just can't get behind that. If we're going to censor it, we need to go whole hog or don't go at all.
Could we put it up for 'On This Day' to avoid reasoning for exclusion of the image?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC)- No opinion on whether to feature on the future date; however, it would be better if this hook didn't remain on the suggestions page for the intervening months, as it is bound to attract further discussion and the page is unwieldy enough as it is. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- Espresso's suggestion may be useful for more than just making this page leaner. A delay in nomination would lend to better perspective for those establishing consensus. In other words, removing it from discussion for a couple months would also put some time between recent events and the article (and hopefully image) being contemplated for a main page feature (unless such a delay would disqualify it from use in DYK section).
--K10wnsta (talk) 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)- Comment This hook should not "disappear" for a few months. It is far better to leave it here to enable a wide input from editors on the issue. I think this is a good compromise that involves common sense, the proposal and special treatment of the timescale fitting nicely under WP:IAR. Mjroots (talk) 13:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support ALT2 for use on 1 January, 2011. EdChem (talk) 10:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Suggest scrapping this troublesome controversial DYK, the user that instigated the issue has also since retired, suggest retiring this idea as well. Off2riorob (talk) 13:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Would you please stop with your blatant pushing of the issue? Putting this off until January removes all controversy related to it. SilverserenC 13:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Your comment is just a simple personal attack, I have bigger fish to relentlessly pursue than this worthless disruptive DYK. Off2riorob (talk) 14:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Nothing of what I said was or is a personal attack. I know you greatly dislike ChrisO and myself, but could you please not try and push an already outdated issue? SilverserenC 14:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- I support ALT2 for the 1 January date. The anniversary makes this a very good choice for that day. -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
I do not support 1 January 2011. The DYK section is for new articles. There are exceptions like April Fools and Halloween; I do not see the point of making every day of the year a possible exception. Geschichte (talk) 20:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose Anniversary or not, a four-month wait at DYK is an overkill. The point of DYK is to present new or newly expanded articles, not to present "on this day". By then this article will be more than four months old. If this line of though is going to be followed, DYK is going to end up in a mess. The length of this entry is plain evidence for why keeping things around for almost five months is not a good idea. Arsenikk (talk) 13:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
per IAR. I would count this as a valid use of IAR. This could have gone up for today. The only reason it isn't going up is for political reasons. I disagree with Jimbo and others on that matter and think we should run it now, but there is no need to reject it entirely on that basis. NW (Talk) 03:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support' as this would have been promoted in the usual time window if not for the decision to shelve it until the political heat was off. To kill it now because a delay was agreed to would be an egregious abuse of trust. - Dravecky (talk) 09:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
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