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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on September 12

Lake Zabuye

... that Lake Zabuye is the major source of lithium (pictured) in China?

Created by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 13:53, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Becconsall Old Church

... that Becconsall Old Church, Lancashire, (pictured) was built with handmade bricks supplied by the lord of the manor?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 13:54, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Călineşti-Oaş

... that archaeological finds in Călineşti-Oaş state that it was inhabited during the Early Neolithic Age (5500 - 5700 BC) by the Starčevo culture?

5x expanded by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 13:22, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Itá Hydroelectric Power Plant, Machadinho Hydroelectric Power Plant, Barra Grande Hydroelectric Power Plant

... that the Itá, Machadinho and Barra Grande Hydroelectric Power Plants in Brazil can generate 127% of Santa Catarina's energy demand?

Created/self-nom by--NortyNort (Holla) 10:26, 12 September 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Oscar Torp

... that Oscar Torp, later Prime Minister of Norway, was responsible for the successful flight of the Norwegian National Treasury in 1940?

5x expanded by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 10:21, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AGF verified. Gatoclass (talk) 15:04, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

East Siberian Sea

... that the northernmost city of Russia, Pevek (pictured), stands on the East Siberian Sea?

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 09:38, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I can see three sources which state that Pevek is the northernmost Russian city, but none which state it is on the East Siberian Sea. Gatoclass (talk) 15:14, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ontario Highway 61

... that the old bridge (pictured) on Highway 61 at the Ontario–Minnesota border, known as The Outlaw, was built by local citizens without approval from the Canadian or American governments?

5x expanded by Floydian (talk). Self nom at 08:06, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cyclops class monitor

... that the accommodations aboard the Cyclops-class monitors were rated the worst in the Royal Navy and referred to by ordinary seamen as "ratholes with tinned air"?

Created by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 06:08, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

R. Smith Simpson

... that American diplomat R. Smith Simpson wrote in 1962 that many students interested in joining the Foreign Service knew little about the U.S. and were "wholly unprepared for diplomatic work"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:56, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Late Late Show (season 48)

... that Tony Blair (pictured) was pelted with shoes and eggs the day after promoting his book on The Late Late Show in Dublin?

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Nominated by Candlewicke (talk) at 02:51, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Triggs

... that Triggs was once described as the "the fittest dog in Cheshire"?

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Nominated by Candlewicke (talk) at 02:51, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 11

Albin Eines

... that when Albin Eines started working in the right-wing newspaper Tidens Tegn in 1928, it was less than a year since he edited the Communist Party newspaper Norges Kommunistblad?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 10:52, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

M Vijayan

... that M Vijayan, a Professor at Indian Institute of Science, was awarded India's fourth highest civilian honor, Padma Shri, in 2004?

Created by Kiran.kulkarni (talk). Nominated by Mspraveen (talk) at 08:49, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kai stingaree

... that the Kai stingaree has only been collected by the HMS Challenger, in 1874?

5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 03:49, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deaf Smith County Historical Museum

... that the Deaf Smith County Historical Museum contains artifacts from a World War II Italian POW camp located near Hereford, Texas?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:54, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

— Rlevse • Talk • 17:12, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kyle Watson

... that Kyle Watson, a competitor on The Ultimate Fighter: Team GSP vs. Team Koscheck, is also the head Jiu-Jitsu instructor at the H.I.T. Squad?

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 00:10, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fenton Hill Observatory

... that the Fenton Hill Observatory is home to the RAPTOR telescopes, which can swivel to any point in the sky in less than three seconds?

Created by Danski14 (talk). Self nom at 21:49, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified. Gatoclass (talk) 15:31, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sugar Grove Petroglyphs

... that some of the Sugar Grove Petroglyphs have been interpreted as showing Ojibwe themes, although the Ojibwe never lived near the petroglyph site?

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 20:48, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Purple-crowned Fairywren, Orange-crowned Fairywren, White-shouldered Fairywren, Lovely Fairywren

... that unlike the drab-coloured wrens of the Northern Hemisphere, the fairywrens of Australasia can be Purple-crowned, Orange-crowned, White-shouldered, or...Lovely (pictured)?

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 20:41, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 00:20, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Brian Birdwell

... that Brian Birdwell, the newest member of the Texas State Senate, was a burn victim of the terrorist attack on The Pentagon on September 11, 2001?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:37, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 00:14, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen Atkins Swails

... that Stephen A. Swails may have been the first black man commissioned as a officer in the Union Army during the American Civil War?

5x expanded by Trfasulo (talk). Self nom at 19:19, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eberhard von Brauchitsch

... that Eberhard von Brauchitsch called the donation of about 26 million Deutsche Mark to several German parties “cultivating the political scene”?

Created by HerkusMonte (talk). Self nom at 19:11, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Magazine of Art

... that artist William W. Fenn, although blind, was a popular writer for The Magazine of Art (1878-1904)?

Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 18:58, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- The article is fine, the hook is verified. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 14:04, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New Ireland stingaree

... that the New Ireland stingaree is the only stingaree with dermal denticles, and may represent a new genus?

5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 18:41, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rhacophorus lateralis

... that Rhacophorus lateralis (pictured) is a tree frog rediscovered after over 100 years in the year 2000 is the only anuran amphibian in India that constructs its nest above the ground using many leaves?

5x expanded by Prashanthns (talk). Self nom at 18:29, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John Rudometkin

... that John Rudometkin's NBA career was cut short due to his battle with non-Hodgkin's lymphoma?

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 18:15, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready. Dincher (talk) 18:23, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

St John the Evangelist's Church, Lancaster

... that the box pews in St John the Evangelist's Church, Lancaster, (pictured) were modified to form a double pew for the use of the Corporation?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 17:02, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready. Dincher (talk) 17:09, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gubazes II of Lazica

... that Gubazes II, the king of Lazica, was assassinated by two Byzantine generals whom he had accused of incompetence?

Comment: Alt hook suggestions welcome

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 16:37, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and length verified, but I think the hook should be worded more clearly. In the article's body, you say that the actual perpetrators of the murder were one of the generals' brother and one of that same general's servants. That is, Gubazes was not actually assassinated by the two generals, but rather on their order. Todor →Bozhinov 10:36, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, as the minds behind the assassination were the two generals, the sources simply phrase it in terms equivalent to "they did it", but OK. How about, "... that Gubazes II, the king of Lazica, was assassinated on the orders of two Byzantine generals, whom he had accused of incompetence?" Constantine ✍ 11:03, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Five Hydroelectric Power Stations/Dams in Brazil

... that before reaching the Iguazu Falls (pictured) on the border of Brazil and Argentina, the Iguazu River is interrupted by the José Richa, Salto Osório, Salto Santiago, Ney Barros and Bento Netto Dams?

Comment There are a few good pictures of the waterfall. I also left all the article titles out of the section header.--NortyNort (Holla) 14:46, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Created/self-nom by--NortyNort (Holla) 14:46, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Legg House (Bloomington, Indiana)

... that the Legg House was built outside of Bloomington, Indiana, but now lies near the heart of the Indiana University campus?

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 14:13, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that this isn't meant to be tricky or deceptive; after the house was built, the university built a new campus near the house, and the city has expanded so that it now surrounds the house. Nyttend (talk) 14:55, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready. Dincher (talk) 17:32, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

St Martin's Church, Allerton Mauleverer

... that on the chancel arch of St Martin's Church, Allerton Mauleverer, North Yorkshire, (pictured) is a painting of Moses and Aaron?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 13:40, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready. Dincher (talk) 17:34, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dwarf black stingray

... that the recently described dwarf black stingray looks like, but is less than a third as wide as, the black stingray?

Created by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 07:20, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moto Racer DS

... that Moto Racer DS was the first Moto Racer game to be released since 2002?

Created by Nomader (talk). Self nom at 06:30, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Leopard whipray, honeycomb whipray

... that the leopard whipray (pictured) and honeycomb whipray have large dark spots when young, that become rings in adults?

Created by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 05:23, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jairamdas Daulatram

... that Indian leader Jairamdas Daulatram represented East Punjab in the Constituent Assembly of India before becoming the Governor of Assam?

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 01:19, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 10

1985 earthquakes

A car destroyed by an earthquake.

... that about 67 powerful and destructive earthquakes occurred in 1985?

Created by Diego Grez (talk). Nominated by Diego Grez (talk) at 15:21, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Patrick van der Eem

... that the hidden camera conversations between Patrick van der Eem and Joran van der Sloot set a television broadcast record in the Netherlands?

5x expanded by KimChee (talk). Self nom at 21:11, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Flanginian School

... that the Flanginian School in Campo dei Greci (pictured), Venice, produced several teachers who contributed to the modern Greek Enlightenment of the 17th and 18th centuries?

Created/expanded by Alexikoua (talk). Self nom at 13:59, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

E. G. Swain

... that the fictional parish of Stoneground, setting for E. G. Swain's Stoneground Ghost Tales, is based on Stanground, Peterborough, where Swain himself was Rector?

Created by Karenjc (talk). Self nom at 08:40, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tabby's Place

... that in April 2010, New Jersey cat sanctuary Tabby's Place received three cats from a U.S. Marine in Okinawa, Japan, marking the organization's first international rescue?

Created by Bonnie0718 (talk). Nominated by Fetchcomms (talk) at 04:12, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1757 Berlin raid

... that Berlin, capital of the Kingdom of Prussia, was held for ransom by Imperial troops during the Seven Years War

ALT1:... that a ransom of 225,000 thalers was paid to forces of the Holy Roman Empire when they seized Berlin in 1757?
ALT2:... that after capturing the Prussian capital Berlin in 1757, cavalrymen of the Holy Roman Empire demanded a dozen pairs of gloves for the Empress as part of the city's ransom?

Created by DCI2026 (talk). Self nom at 03:39, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Salvatore Giunta (Medal of Honor)

... that Salvatore Guinta proved that you don't have to die to get the Medal of Honor?

Created by 129.6.180.141 (talk). Nominated by Balloonman (talk) at 02:09, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"... that one does not need to die..." is a better wording. But not every single MOH recipient has gotten it posthumously, AFAIK. He is, according to the article, "the first living person to receive the Medal of Honor for service in Iraq and Afghanistan". Also, it seems to have been created by Dysepsion, not an IP. —fetch ·comms 04:05, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article is no longer eligible, as it has appeared in the ITN section. GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 10:06, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Causeway (Washington, D.C.)

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... that The Causeway in Washington, D.C. is an estate named for a bridge rather than an occupant?

Created/expanded by Grsz11 (talk). Self nom at 21:26, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Adventures of Buratino (1975 film)

... that Bulat Okudzhava wrote song lyrics for The Adventures of Buratino but much of his work was considered too philosophical and was left out?

Created by DVD R W (talk). Nominated by DVD R W (talk) at 20:14, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fred S. LeBlanc

... that former Louisiana Atty. Gen. Fred S. LeBlanc, as a district judge in 1959, signed the letter committing his old rival, Earl Long, to undergo evaluation for paranoid schizophrenia?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 19:50, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Allen County Jail

... that many prisoners escaped from the Allen County Jail (pictured), which was hailed as the best jail in southeastern Kansas upon its completion?

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 19:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready. Dincher (talk) 18:27, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bolivar Edwards Kemp, Jr.

... that the former Louisiana Atty. Gen. Bolivar Kemp, Jr., was a brother-in-law of Cajun humorist and chef Justin E. Wilson?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 18:39, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reign of Assassins

... that for the film Reign of Assassins, John Woo (pictured) spent over a week directing an action scene featuring his daughter Angeles?

Created by Andrzejbanas (talk). Self nom at 17:19, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Aviation Martyrs' Monument

... that the broken top of the Aviation Martyrs' Monument in Istanbul is to symbolize the incomplete status of the flight mission?

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self nom at 17:14, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Antardwand

... that Antardwand, an Indian film that was based on the practice of groom kidnapping, won a National Award for Best Film on Social Issues?

5x expanded by Mspraveen (talk). Self nom at 16:28, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

St Mary's Church, Tarleton

... that when St Mary's Church, Tarleton, Lancashire, (pictured) was closed and replaced by a new church nearer the centre of the village, it was used as a mortuary chapel?

Created/expanded by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 16:00, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready. Dincher (talk) 17:36, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Paulo Afonso Hydroelectric Complex

... that Paulo Afonso I of the Paulo Afonso Hydroelectric Complex is the first large power plant in Brazil?

ALT1 ... that the Paulo Afonso Hydroelectric Complex comprises the densest area of dams in Brazil?

ALT2 ... that although the Paulo Afonso Hydroelectric Complex in Brazil dammed a waterfall, its spillways can recreate it?

Created/self-nom by --NortyNort (Holla) 15:19, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think I bunch of hooks or combinations are possible with this one.--NortyNort (Holla) 15:19, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

James Mathews Leigh

... that in 1848, James Mathews Leigh founded a popular art school in London, providing training for many leading British artists?

Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 14:07, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2004 Grand Prix (snooker)

... that in the first round of the 2004 Grand Prix snooker tournament, Stephen Maguire was docked a frame for not having his chalk at the start of his match against Shaun Murphy?

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 10:52, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Old Sarum Cathedral

... that Old Sarum Cathedral, the Norman church built at Old Sarum, Wiltshire (ruins pictured), was replaced by a new cathedral at Salisbury in the 13th century?

Created by Bob Castle (talk). Self-nom at 10:11, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This Ain't Avatar XXX

... that This Ain't Avatar XXX, an American pornographic film parody of Avatar, is being shot in 3D and is the most expensive film Hustler Video has ever produced?

Created by Nomader (talk). Self nom at 06:59, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

White Sea

... that in 1553–54, while seeking a northern passage from England to the Indies, Richard Chancellor established a trade route to Russia through the White Sea (pictured) instead?

Comment: See 2nd paragraph of "History"

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 05:07, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eppa Rixey

... that Baseball Hall of Famer Eppa Rixey taught high-school latin during the baseball off-season

5x expanded by Secret (talk). Self nom at 03:35, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Two notes, first the expansion started on September 2, but there's still nominations from August 31, I read the rules saying that an article would most likely get accepted if theres still nominations from those dates. Second thing of all it's considered a 5x expansion as the infobox and the categories, external links, etc took up more than half of the article, there was exactly 2,085 bytes of actual prose as you could tell by User:Secret/test, now there is about 10,000 bytes of actual prose. Thanks Secret ^account 03:44, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rondon's Marmoset

... that the newly described monkey, Rondon's Marmoset, was named in honor of Amazonian explorer Cândido Rondon?

Created by Rlendog (talk), 212.10.95.14 (talk). Nominated by Rlendog (talk) at 01:47, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Silver Creek (Harney County, Oregon)

... that Silver Creek flows through a canyon near Riley, Oregon with over 200-foot (60 m) tall walls?

Comment: Alternate hooks are welcome. :)

Created by Little Mountain 5 (talk). Self nom at 01:28, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 9

Manoj Pradhan

... that Manoj Pradhan, an Indian politician belonging to the Bharatiya Janata Party, was elected from Orissa's G. Udayagiri assembly constituency?

Created by Mukerjee (talk). Nominated by Mspraveen (talk) at 08:19, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Scorpion class ironclad

... that the two Scorpion class ironclads that were ordered by the Confederate States Navy in 1862 from a British shipyard were seized in 1863 by the British Government to prevent their delivery?

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 23:03, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Altered hook to point to the article that I believe is intended, instead of ironclad --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:06, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1989–90 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

... that the 1989–90 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team set the current Big Ten Conference single-game field goals made record of 55?

Created by User:TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 01:54, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1988–89 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

... that the 1988–89 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team set the final four two-game team assist record of 42 in the 1989 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament?

5x expanded by User:TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 01:54, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deltaterrasserne

... that Deltaterrasserne, containing features of both Independence I and Independence II cultures, is one of the largest archaeological sites in Peary Land?

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 04:04, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Counsel and Care

... that the UK charity, Counsel and Care, were one of the first to propose a "death tax" as a method to fund the care of the elderly?

ALT1:... that the UK charity, Counsel and Care, is one of the sixty-seven charities patronised by HRH The Duchess of Gloucester?

Created by Care4elderly (talk), SunCreator (talk). Nominated by Senra (talk) at 22:43, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Astronomy and Astrophysics Decadal Survey

... that the new Astronomy and Astrophysics Decadal Survey lays out a roadmap for exploring extrasolar planetary systems and investigating the nature of dark energy?

Created by 2over0 (talk). Self nom at 03:37, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shantungosuchus

... that Shantungosuchus, a small, primitive crocodile from the Cretaceous, was terrestrial instead of aquatic?

Created by Ryan shell (talk). Self nom at 23:59, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cinema (song)

... that ten years after releasing an entire album of 18- to 21-minute songs, progressive rock band Yes won their first Grammy for "Cinema", a two-minute instrumental?

Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 23:39, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dickie Boon

... that Dickie Boon, Stanley Cup champion player with the Montreal Hockey Club of 1900–1903 is credited with inventing the poke check used in ice hockey to knock the puck off an attacking player's stick?

5x expanded by Alaney2k (talk). Self nom at 22:44, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Two Face: The Flip Side

... that Two Face: The Flip Side, a steel roller coaster, was shutdown in 2007 by the Maryland Department of Labor, Licensing and Regulation after hydraulic fluid injured riders on a stalled train?

5x expanded by User:Truco (talk). Nominated by Truco (talk) at 22:12, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT ... that Two Face: The Flip Side, a ride at Six Flags America, was shutdown in 2007 by the Maryland Department of Labor, Licensing and Regulation after hydraulic fluid injured riders on a stalled train?--Truco ⁵⁰³ 22:12, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT ... that Two Face: The Flip Side, a steel roller coaster, was shutdown in 2007 by the Maryland Department of Labor, Licensing and Regulation after it could not be proven safe regarding an incident?--Truco ⁵⁰³ 22:12, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Footwraps

... that footwraps (pictured), pieces of cloth wrapped around the feet in place of socks, are being phased out by the army of Belarus in 2010?

Created by Sandstein (talk). Nominated by Sandstein (talk) at 21:06, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

. Hook, length verified. Good to go. --Sulmues ^(talk) 23:39, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

College Baseball All-America Team

... that in 1950, the American Baseball Coaches Association chose the first College Baseball All-America Team?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 20:43, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Coahuila y Tejas

... that in 1830, 80% of the residents of Mexican Texas, part of the Mexican state Coahuila y Tejas, were from the United States or Europe?

5x expanded by Karanacs (talk). Self nom at 19:44, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ventus (Kingdom Hearts)

... that despite their extreme physical similarities to the Kingdom Hearts character Roxas, Ventus is a completely different character from the same series?

Created by User:Tintor2 (talk). Nominated by User:Tintor2 (talk) at 19:26, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dry River (Crooked River)

... that part of the bed of the Dry River in central Oregon is used as a hiking trail?

Created by Finetooth (talk). Self nom at 18:26, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Figure skating at the 1952 Winter Olympics – Men's singles

... that Dick Button performed the first triple jump in competition at the men's figure skating event at the 1952 Winter Olympics?

Created by H1nkles (talk). Nominated by User:H1nkles (talk) at 17:49, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not categorised. References not done right. Article is at the wrong name (endash should be used instead of hyphen). Strange Passerby (talk) 02:34, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please advise if the endash is appropriate now, also re: references not done right, are you talking about the format of the reference? Thanks for reviewing I want to be sure I do it right. H1nkles (talk) _{citius altius fortius} 17:03, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You should've used the Special:MovePage function to move the article, rather than create a duplicate at the intended article name. You should see to it that an admin merges the page histories. I don't understand the need for two different references sections "Notes" and "References"; the latter should be incorporated into the former and the section be called "References". Categorise the article, too. Otherwise, length and hook are fine — but there should be a citation directly after the hook fact in the article. Strange Passerby (talk) 17:16, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed the copy/paste page move; if it is not at the correct title now it can be moved again. - 2/0 (cont.) 17:24, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you both for your help, yes I blew it with the move function, I should know better my apologies. I have a Notes section for the full book citation, and a References section for the web page references as well as in-line citation for the book with author last name, year, and page number. See Olympic Games and 1956 Winter Olympics (both FAs) as examples. Thus far no category exists but I'll try and create one. I see what you mean about referencing directly after the hook fact, again my oversight thank you for catching that and it's been addressed. H1nkles (talk) _{citius altius fortius} 17:52, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Other than the references issue, on which I'll defer further judgement to someone who has more knowledge with DYK rules regarding that and/or the judgement of the people at FAC who've accepted it as a standard, everything else looks fine now. Strange Passerby (talk) 07:27, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again for all your help! H1nkles (talk) _{citius altius fortius} 17:19, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lawson Wood

... that English illustrator and designer Lawson Wood was a recluse in his later years and dwelt in a 15th-century medieval manor house he moved brick by brick from Sussex to the Kent border?

5x expanded by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 17:05, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 (more succinct): "... that, in later life, English illustrator Lawson Wood was a recluse, living in a medieval manor house he had had moved brick by brick from Sussex to the Kent border?

Style, length and references good - AGF on book refs but they square with other internet sources. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 15:06, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

St John the Baptist's Church, Pilling

... that the flushwork decorating parts of St John the Baptist's Church, Pilling, Lancashire, (pictured) is in two colours of sandstone rather than the more usual materials of flint and stone?

Created/expanded by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 15:31, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John Schuyler Crosby

... that Montana Territorial Governor John Schuyler Crosby (pictured) fought and subdued a crazed knife wielding valet from his sick bed?

ALT1:.. that Montana Territorial Governor John Schuyler Crosby (pictured) was awarded the Order of the Crown of Italy for his efforts to capture and prosecute forgers?

5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 15:02, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Folkard

... that Charles Folkard created the first British daily newspaper cartoon strip, The Adventures of Teddy Tail, for the Daily Mail in April 1915?

5x expanded by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 14:53, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Leigh

... that after keeping a clean sheet in an FA Cup match against defending champions Manchester United, Bournemouth goalkeeper Ian Leigh was rewarded with a lifetime supply of pizzas from a local Italian restaurant?

Created by GiantSnowman (talk). Nominated by GiantSnowman (talk) at 14:35, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, style and most refs OK. But need to modify the hook - according to the references, the offer of free pizza was cancelled when Harry Redknapp bought the restaurant! Shadygrove2007 (talk) 14:50, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

But the offer being cancelled a year later doesn't affect the validity of the hook, I wouldn't say. Giant Snowman 14:53, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. Hook is perfectly valid. Strange Passerby (talk) 03:30, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Luiz Gonzaga Dam

... that the Luiz Gonzaga Dam in Brazil was renamed in honor of Luiz Gonzaga who is known as the "king of Baião" and "Gonzagão"?

Created/self-nom by--NortyNort (Holla) 11:57, 9 September 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Good to go. BineMai 22:03, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Hixon

... that the parents of diving world junior silver medalist and Youth Olympic bronze medalist Michael Hixon are both coaches in American collegiate sports?

ALT1: ... that the Youth Olympic bronze medalist in the boys' 3 meter springboard, Michael Hixon, is the son of the 2007 NCAA Men's Division III Basketball Tournament champion head coach?
ALT2: ... that 2010 Summer Youth Olympics diving bronze medalist Michael Hixon's parents are both coaches in American collegiate sports?

5x expanded by Strange Passerby (talk). Self nom at 11:45, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: ALT 2 is a varied version of the original hook in case "world junior silver medalist" doesn't sound right (not exactly "world junior champion", after all). ALT 1 is a different alternate, but might be slightly hampered by not including his father's name as his father, whilst notable, doesn't (yet) have an article. Strange Passerby (talk) 16:52, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Daydreamer (novel)

... that Eva Maria Mauter wrote that the 1994 children's book The Daydreamer by Ian McEwan gets neglected in treatment about McEwan's works because it is a children's novel?

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 08:33, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lewis Carroll: A Biography

... that the 1995 biography of Lewis Carroll, Lewis Carroll: A Biography, by Morton N. Cohen is generally considered to be the definite scholarly work on Carroll's life?

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 07:36, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Are we not insulting peoples intelligence to mention that "LeWis Carroll: A Biography" is a biography about Lewis Carroll and then just in case they forgot since it was mentioned twice at the start of the hook then we remind them at the end that the book is about Carroll's life. I would obviously like to mention this point again and then summarise it again but I'm hoping Ive made a point anyway. DYK... that Lewis Carroll: A Biography, by Morton N. Cohen is considered to be the definitive work on Carroll's life? Victuallers (talk) 16:18, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, maybe you have a point. I simply lifted the content, though, from the article. Happy with either. Christopher Connor (talk) 22:57, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nipisat Island

... that Greenland's well preserved archaeological site on Nipisat Island contains some stone artifacts that were previously unknown from the Saqqaq culture?

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 04:34, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wessiea

... that the extinct fern Wessiea is known from the "Ho ho" locality in Yakima County, Washington?

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 01:41, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 8

Acronychia wilcoxiana, Acronychia oblongifolia

... that the silver and white aspens (pictured) of eastern Australia are members of the citrus family and not aspens?

Created by Casliber (talk), Poyt448 (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 06:01, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

History of general anesthesia

... that Japanese surgeon Hanaoka Seishū (pictured) performed the world's first operation under general anesthesia in 1804?

Created by DiverDave (talk). Self nom at 05:57, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Lainson, Reading Town Hall, 75 Holland Road, Hove, Pelham Institute

... that architect Thomas Lainson's works include a Queen Anne-style hospital, part of Reading Town Hall, a Second Empire-style furniture repository (pictured) and a High Gothic working men's club?

Comment: Will edit the credits manually due to complicated history. Starbois wrote Reading TH on 8th; Thomas Lainson was started by Starbois on 9th and expanded by me; I wrote the other two on 11th. I hope to 5x expand Royal Alexandra Hospital, Brighton within the timeframe. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 17:59, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Created by Starbois (talk), Hassocks5489 (talk). Nominated by Hassocks5489 (talk) at 17:59, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Avatar: Legend of Korra

... that the creators of Avatar: The Last Airbender plan to make a spinoff called Avatar: Legend of Korra which is set 70 years after the defeat of Fire Lord Ozai?

Created by Jhenderson777 (talk). Nominated by Jhenderson777 (talk) at 14:47, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1984–85 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

... that the 1984–85 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team started the longest overall, longest home and longest road winning streaks in Michigan Wolverines men's basketball history?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 01:47, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Andy Cannavino, Paul Girgash, Robert Thompson

... that the 1980 Michigan defense, led by All-Big Ten linebackers Andy Cannavino, Paul Girgash and Robert Thompson, gave up an average of 1.8 points per game in the last five games of the season?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 01:57, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Old St John the Baptist's Church, Pilling

... that Old St John the Baptist's Church, Pilling, Lancashire, is an unusual survival of a small Georgian church?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 14:54, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alrosa Mirny Air Enterprise Flight 514

... that after leaving the aircraft by evacuation slide, some of the passengers from Alrosa Mirny Air Enterprise Flight 514 (aircraft involved pictured) foraged for mushrooms whilst awaiting rescue?

Created by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 12:19, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note Article currently at AfD. Suggest that it is approved subject to survival. Mjroots (talk) 10:55, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Presidential elections in Singapore

... that a potential candidate for a presidential election in Singapore (President's official residence pictured) must apply for a certificate of eligibility to show he has the necessary qualifications to be nominated?

5x expanded by Xiejiayan (talk) and Smuconlaw (talk). Nominated by Smuconlaw (talk) at 05:26, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article was worked on in a sandbox and moved into the article namespace on 8 September 2010. — SMUconlaw (talk) 07:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The fact given in the hook needs a citation on it in the article, and I can't see one at the moment. Otherwise, length/expansion and date check out. Just need to fix the citation requirement and it's fine. Strange Passerby (talk) 07:34, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That would be footnote 50. — SMUconlaw (talk) 11:41, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Go. Strange Passerby (talk) 05:55, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Blackedge whipray

... that the blackedge whipray is known in Tamil as the "salt-like ray"?

Created by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 04:04, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Carl Weinrich

... that the American organist, Carl Weinrich, performed the premieres of Samuel Barber's Prelude and Fugue in B Minor, Louis Vierne's Organ Symphony No. 6, and Arnold Schoenberg's Variations on a Recitative?

Comment: The article uses a shortened footnote format for the inline citations. Consult the Sources section for full bibliographic information and links for the citations. The hook is based on the first sentence of the second paragraph of the Biography section. The character count is 1673 (not including headings or bulletted lists).

Created by Voceditenore (talk). Nominated by Voceditenore (talk) at 23:47, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander Volkov (fighter)

... that despite turning professional just over a year prior, Alexander Volkov reached the final of the M-1 Global Eastern Europe tournament?

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 23:06, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Norcon pillbox

... that the Norcon pillbox (pictured) has been described as "possibly the most dangerous, cheap and nasty of all pillbox designs"?

Created by Gaius Cornelius (talk). Self nom at 22:52, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: moved from user space to main space today. Gaius Cornelius (talk) 22:55, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ada Mills

... that Ada Mills, a businesswoman from Clarksville, Arkansas, was the only delegate in the country initially committed in 1980 to presidential candidate John Connally?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:41, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT=... that the Arkansas River bridge between Johnson and Logan counties in Arkansas is named for Ada Mills, who lobbied forty years for the project?

Hemilepistus reaumuri

... that the woodlouse Hemilepistus reaumuri (pictured) can only survive in the desert because it looks after its young?

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 21:01, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go. Smartse (talk) 21:44, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kingsway, Southport

... that the Kingsway (pictured) was one of the first gig venues for the Beatles band member Ringo Starr after joining the band in 1962?

Created by User:Bankhallbretherton (talk). Self nom at 21:05, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Karen MacNeil‎

... that author and wine educator Karen MacNeil‎'s book The Wine Bible was ten years in the making?

Created by Murgh (talk). Self nom at 19:32, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Saint George Maronite Cathedral

... that the cathedra at Beirut's Saint George Maronite Cathedral was the armchair used by Pope John Paul II during his 1997 visit to Lebanon?

Created by Eli +. Nominated by Eli + at 19:21, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Operation Power Flite

... that Operation Power Flite, in which three U.S. Air Force B-52s flew non-stop around the world (route pictured), was made to show that "the United States had the ability to drop a hydrogen bomb anywhere in the world"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 18:52, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

— Rlevse • Talk • 15:39, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The All-American Nightmare

... that Hinder's lead singer, Austin Winkler, considers the band's upcoming album, The All-American Nightmare, to be the record he is proudest of?

5x expanded by C628 (talk). Nominated by C628 (talk) at 18:30, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Colonia Hipódromo

... that Colonia Hipódromo was home to refugees from the Spanish Civil War?

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 18:23, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

911 Is a Joke

... that "911 Is a Joke" was Public Enemy's second number-one hit on the rap charts, and was later covered by Duran Duran?

5x expanded by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 17:08, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Should we use this on September 11? Smartse (talk) 21:49, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Heh. You know, I didn't even think about 9/11 being that close when I started the article, but yeah, that would be pretty apt given the whole Washington Post thing. 28bytes (talk) 00:23, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that due to a copy-editing error, The Washington Post inadvertently suggested that Public Enemy's 1990 song "911 Is a Joke" referred to the September 11, 2001 attacks? 28bytes (talk) 22:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See User_talk:Rlevse#911_Is_a_Joke consensus is strongly against putting this up on Sep 11th. Agree the alt is better than the main hook. — Rlevse • Talk • 23:02, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oooh. Bad, bad idea to use this on 9/11 as it would be unnecessarily provocative and regarded by many people as in poor taste. — SMUconlaw (talk) 12:04, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Canpotex

... that Canpotex manages the entire Saskatchewan potash-exporting industry, representing one-third of global capacity?

Created/expanded by M.nelson (talk). Self nom at 16:50, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Only 1484 characters at the moment. Bullet points don't count, so maybe rewrite the Member Producers section and turn it into prose. Smartse (talk) 21:51, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My initial count was over 1500, but I expanded it ~250 characters in any case. Cheers, -M.Nelson (talk) 22:31, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's fine now. Smartse (talk) 23:03, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John Lynch (radio)

... that radio mogul John Lynch was initially drafted to play football for the Pittsburgh Steelers, but joined the broadcasting industry instead because of a knee injury?

Created by Edge3 (talk). Self nom at 15:40, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alicia M. Soderberg

... that the detection of supernova SN 2008D on January 9, 2008, by Alicia M. Soderberg using data from NASA's Swift X-ray space telescope marked the first time a supernova was observed as it occurred?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:27, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Seymour Pine

A black and white photograph of The Stonewall Inn, showing half of a sign that was placed in the window by the Mattachine Society several days following the riots

... that NYPD deputy inspector Seymour Pine justified his June 1969 raid of the Stonewall Inn (pictured) that helped spark the gay rights movement in the U.S. as until that night "they never gave you any trouble"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Added a link to Stonewall riots#Police raid in hook. -M.Nelson (talk) 16:53, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Who's That Girl (film)

... that the film Who's That Girl? features a live cougar, which escaped one day from the set, before shooting started?

5x expanded by Legolas2186 (talk). Nominated by Andrzejbanas (talk) at 14:59, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

~~Verified.~~ I wikilink'd cougar, wouldn't want it mistaken with the other cougar. Just kidding, that's not the real reason, I just thought it'd be good to w/l another word.--NortyNort (Holla) 03:52, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the tick, I didn't see that the entire plot section was unreferenced. --NortyNort (Holla) 04:00, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:FILMPLOT, "Since the film is the primary source and the infobox provides details about the film, citing the film explicitly in the plot summary's section is not necessary. Exceptions to the rule include upcoming films and "lost" films (which are not available to the public to verify), for which editors should use secondary sources." Andrzejbanas (talk) 06:16, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, good to go then. --NortyNort (Holla) 06:52, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

UK City of Culture

... that the first ever UK City of Culture will be Derry in 2013?

Created by User:Cordless Larry (talk). Self nom at 14:46, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New article. Hook verified. Good to go. Gaius Cornelius (talk) 12:07, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jindo Island, Yellow Sea

... that every year, a narrow land pass opens for a few hours between Modo and Jindo Islands in the Yellow Sea?

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 12:24, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - see Jindo Island, perhaps ref. 18 first. Materialscientist (talk) 23:34, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

HMS Loke (1869)

... that the Swedish monitor HMS Loke made only seven short cruises in her career, the last in late 1880, and was not commissioned again before she was advertised for sale in 1908?

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 03:29, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 7

Action of 9 November 1822

... that the Action of 9 November 1822 fought between the schooner USS Alligator and a squadron of pirate schooners saw the death of Lieutenant William Allen after he stood up to rally his men?

Created by XavierGreen (talk). Nominated by XavierGreen (talk) at 00:25, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel Dole, Edmund Pearson Dole, Wigglesworth Dole

... that descendants of Wigglesworth Dole in Hawaii included missionary Daniel Dole, Governor Sanford B. Dole, pineapple planter James Dole and Attorney General Edmund Dole?

Comment: I thought of one article for the family, but broke it up for easier navigation (with a family tree navbox). Wigglesworth (love that name) was created September 8, others on the 7th after development in my sandbox. Does it make sense to link the titles as proposed? There are more but need to keep the hook reasonable size.

Created by W Nowicki (talk). Nominated by W Nowicki (talk) at 00:27, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Medicine Rocks State Park

... that Theodore Roosevelt called Medicine Rocks in Montana "as fantastically beautiful a place as I have ever seen"?

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 13:35, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date check out, off-line reference for hook accepted in good faith. Nice article! Voceditenore (talk) 13:45, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

25th Legislative District (New Jersey)

... that when Gordon MacInnes won a State Senate seat in 1993 in the 25th Legislative District he became the first Democrat from Morris County in 18 years to be elected to the New Jersey Legislature?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 12:35, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Treaties of Bautzen and Merseburg

... that the five treaties of Bautzen and Merseburg, concluded between 1002 and 1033, all concerned the same dispute?

Created by Skäpperöd (talk). Nominated by Skäpperöd (talk) at 11:48, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: There was an unsourced stub "Peace of Bautzen", which I redirected [1]. Skäpperöd (talk) 11:50, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Both the article as it currently is and the hook are a WP:SYNTHESIS. I don't see a source which says that all these treaties, concerned the same dispute (they didn't). In fact I don't see a source which discusses the 1018 (and earlier) treaties together with the 1031 and 1033 treaties - these involved different individuals (different dynasties even), ended different wars and concerned different issues. Please see article talk page for discussion. There were two sets of treaties here and the article needs to be split into two, one on the Peace of Bautzen 1018 (per the article that was "deleted" out of process through a redirect) and one on the Peace of Merseburg 1033. Of course, once the two are split, they can be nominated for DYK as separate articles, provided some of the other problems (POV, skewed sources, omissions) are fixed.radek (talk) 19:52, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've recreated the Peace of Bautzen article and made one for Treaty of Merseburg, and moved most of the content from the synth-ed article. These can be nominated individually, avoiding the SYNTH problem, though the one on Merseburg at least, still requires some work.radek (talk) 23:41, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 for the Peace of Bautzen article: "... that due to the Peace of Bautzen (1018) between Henry II and Boleslaw of Poland, Boleslaw retained control of Lusatia and Upper Lusatia and married Oda of Meissen, daughter of Margrave Eckard I?"radek (talk) 05:34, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have answered the synth allegation and provided additional sources on talk, I had undone the split and started an RfC, unfortunately Radeksz reverted. The RfC is here:

Talk:Treaties of Bautzen and Merseburg#RfC: Keep as one article or split

Skäpperöd (talk) 09:05, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The additional sources (on Polish Theater and Drama!?!??) hardly address the issue. I've restored the two separate articles which you are attempting to delete. There's nothing "unfortunate" about this.

Again, where does a particular source say that these treaties all "concerned the same dispute", as you have it in the hook?radek (talk) 17:22, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I provided more than ten additional sources here. The "separate articles" I am allegedly "trying to delete" are in fact the two halfs of my article which you decided to split, and which I have undone per BRD. You have moved the sections on Merseburg (1002), Merseburg (1013) and Bautzen (1018) to Peace of Bautzen, and the sections on Bautzen (1031) and Merseburg (1033) to Treaty of Merseburg, which I regard ill-advised and for which I had started the abovementioned RfC, which is open. I'd appreciate if you would self-revert. The sources referencing individual or a bunch of the treaties as well as additional sources provided on talk all confirm that all the treaties are about the investment with Lusatia and the legal status of the Piasts with respect to the emperor. Skäpperöd (talk) 18:22, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

These are hardly "additional" sources, as the ones already included in the article do not support the synthesis and treat Bautzen 1018, and Merseburg 1033 separately. Likewise, the three sources you listed previously do not support the synthesis, except maybe for the apparently irrelevant work on "Polish Theater and Drama" which is not accessible online. I have only had time to take a cursory look at these ten new sources so far but to the extent they are verifiable online they do not support the synthesis either.

"The sources referencing individual or a bunch of the treaties as well as additional sources provided on talk all confirm that all the treaties are about the investment with Lusatia and the legal status of the Piasts with respect to the emperor." - this is simply not true, they confirm nothing of the kind. The idea that both these treaties were all about investment with Lusatia and legal status is the POV you're trying to push here through this SYNTHESIS. The sources do not state this. At most a couple of them mention both 1018 and 1033 in the same way that a general work on 20th century European or World History will mention both World War I and World War II.

Look, putting aside the question of whether the article as a whole is a synthesis or not, DYK rules require that the hook be explicitly confirmed with a citation [2] to a reliable source. I have asked repeatedly which source(s) states that "all five treaties" "all concerned the same dispute" - you have so far refused to answer that question or to provide the required source. The claim is also NOT cited in the article. radek (talk) 00:34, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For a thorough in depth analysis of the break down of the sources please see here [3]. Basically out of the 11 sources currently used in the article, 8 deal with Peace of Bautzen as a self contained subject, 1 mentions both Bautzen 1018 and Merseburg 1033 but does not explicitly deal with them as a single whole and 2 are not available online and hence hard to verify but also seem to deal with the two events separately. No sources synthesize the two different treaties in the way that is being done in the article.radek (talk) 02:55, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - a third opinion by an outside uninvolved editor per the RfC has been provided [4] and that editor has agreed that is best to split the article into two. At this point it would probably be advisable to remove this nomination so that the individual articles for Peace of Bautzen and Treaty of Merseburg can be nominated before any deadlines pass, as we would not want any editors to fail to get credit for their work.radek (talk) 23:19, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to put the nomination on hold as long as the RfC is ongoing. If the RfC results in a split, the hook can be modified. If the result is keep as is, it should be kept as is. Skäpperöd (talk) 12:51, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you want from the RfC; the outside comment has been provided [5] and [6]. You seem to want to keep the RfC open for as long as it takes for someone with an opinion matching yours to arrive. That's not how it works. It's time to move on, and renominate the two separate articles separately. Look at it this way, now you'll get 2 DYK credits instead of one.radek (talk) 17:31, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fort Belan

... that Princess Margaret stayed at Fort Belan for the investiture of Prince Charles in 1969?

5x expanded by Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 09:29, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good length, date, and online ref. Nice expansion. -M.Nelson (talk) 17:05, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Arthur Eaglefield Hull

... that Arthur Eaglefield Hull invented the term "mystic chord" to describe the music of Russian composer Scriabin?

Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 09:24, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good length and date; offline reference for hook accepted in good faith. Cheers, -M.Nelson (talk) 17:01, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John Shelp Cobblestone House

... that the front porch on the John Shelp Cobblestone House (pictured) in West Shelby, New York, was built as a result of a heating stove fire in the dining room?

Comment: Fivefold text expansion

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 04:59, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

19 stingaree articles

... that there are 21 endemic Australian stingarees, including the brown, circular, common, Coral Sea, eastern shovelnose, greenback, Kapala (pictured), lobed, masked, mitotic, patchwork, sandyback, sparsely-spotted, spotted, striped, western shovelnose, wide, and yellow shovelnose?

5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 03:37, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Starting work on this corker. Have shortened the hook a bit, since it was originally well over the 200 character guideline. Expansion and ref for hook fact confirmed for main article stingarees. Expansion tick for Brown stingaree, Circular stingaree, Common stingaree, Coral Sea stingaree, Eastern shovelnose stingaree, Greenback stingaree, Kapala stingaree, Lobed stingaree, Masked stingaree, Mitotic stingaree, Patchwork stingaree, Sandyback stingaree, Sparsely-spotted stingaree, Spotted stingaree, Striped stingaree, Western shovelnose stingaree, Wide stingaree, Yellow shovelnose stingaree. hamiltonstone (talk) 03:50, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

While I don't mind the shortening, I should note that the character limit is relaxed for multi-article hooks. -- Yzx (talk) 04:04, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, see Rule C3 for guidance. --NortyNort (Holla) 07:51, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Church of Saint Andrew, High Ham

... that High Ham's Church of Saint Andrew has a 12th century lead-lined tulip bowl font?

5x expanded by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 02:21, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified. Nothing like mixing lead and water. I wonder if the holy water negates the effects though. --NortyNort (Holla) 03:47, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tony Clunn

... that Tony Clunn, a British Army Major looking for Roman coins with a metal detector, discovered the site of the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest?

Created by Yngvadottir (talk). Self nom at 00:57, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Everything looks good but how about some restructuring: --NortyNort (Holla) 03:43, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that Tony Clunn discovered the site of the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest while looking for Roman coins with a metal detector?

Thanks for reviewing it :-) But I think I still prefer the original hook. Archaeologists had argued and searched for centuries and this guy finds it while prowling around on his hobby while stationed in Osnabrück on active duty. So I think the British Army Major bit adds to it. Yngvadottir (talk) 04:06, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your welcome. I see what your saying and that's cool. Nice article.--NortyNort (Holla) 12:59, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rocky Gale

... that catcher Rocky Gale made his professional baseball debut with the Eugene Emeralds, a team that he watched while growing up in the area?

Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 00:07, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Kerman

... that the American musicologist and critic Joseph Kerman described Puccini's opera Tosca as "a shabby little shocker"?

Comment: The article uses a shortened footnote format for the inline citations. Consult the Sources section for full bibliographic information and links for the citations. The hook is based on the fourth sentence of the second paragraph in the Biography section.

5x expanded by Voceditenore (talk). Self nom at 23:39, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alt 1... that musicologist Joseph Kerman famously described Giacomo Puccini's Tosca as "a shabby little shocker"?4meter4 (talk) 14:31, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment:The first version was better, in that it describes Kerman as also being a critic. Furthermore, his description is not "famous" and is known primarily to a small circle of dilettantes. Dr. Dan (talk) 20:16, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

um... Just because you like to claim it isn't famous doesn't mean it isn't. All four of the sources cited describe the quote as being famous (and they all use the word famous). Stop trying to push your baseless POV which is contrary to pretty much every reputable source on this topic. Note to reviewers, see Talk:Tosca for an example of Dr. Dan's highly biased, uncivil, and odd behavior around this topic.4meter4 (talk) 20:37, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Leaving aside the ax being ground here (multiple reliable, scholarly, published sources – not "a small circle of dilettantes" – explicitly describe the quote as "famous"), I prefer the original hook. It is simple, unambiguous, congruent with the text of the article, which does not state that the quote is "famous" per [7], and fully supported by the sources cited. Voceditenore (talk) 20:58, 8 September 2010 (UTC) Updated by Voceditenore (talk) 11:47, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In so far as posterity will be interested in this DYK, if the "sources" say this debatable, and essentially unknown "opinion" is famous, then it must be famous, unambiguous, and congruent with the text of the article. Like this. If it doesn't accomplish anything else, perhaps Wikipedia will somehow make it famous. As I've said earlier it is indeed famous amongst a group of dilettantes, who described themselves as members of "Opera circles" [8]. And 4meter, just because you like to claim that this critic's shabby, little, meanspirited, and largely unknown "shocker" is famous, doesn't mean that it is. I think including it in the DYK segment, is appropriate. Saying that Kerman is well known, or that his opinion is famous is misleading to say the least. That's all I'm trying to explain to you. Best. Dr. Dan (talk) 21:51, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To quote from above, "multiple reliable, scholarly, published sources – not "a small circle of dilettantes" – explicitly describe the quote as "famous"." If you choose to ignore the verifiable facts, don't expect anyone here to take you seriously.4meter4 (talk) 14:32, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

whether it's famous or not is inmaterial-it doesn't need to be in the hook. Hook has a valid ref. Approved. refer main hook. — Rlevse • Talk • 16:38, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

4meter4 and Dr. Dan, that is enough. Please limit your comments to constructive ones; arguing about who is POV and terrible is not going to get anything done.
Now, regardless of what the sources say: "famously" sounds WP:PEACOCK wording and puffery, even if it is supported by sources it doesn't make the hook sound better to my ears. I'm with Voceditenore, leave it out. rʨanaɢ (talk) 16:39, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fine with voced's hook as well. However, I don't appriciate my contributions being described as unconstructive. I presented a valid verifiable hook (from four published academic sources no less) which is in my opinion more interesting than the original one. It's also not a "Peacock" word because it is famous and so many sources (I could probably find 30 or more published sources given time) say that it is. Since the hook I presented was challenged by DrDan, I needed to respond to those concerns. What concerns me more is that nobody is calling DrDan on his behavior which is clearly a violation of WP:Civil, and more disturbing, a persistant willfulness in pushing forward a viewpoint which is in direct opposition to the available verifiable evidence. I'm seriously considering bringing him before Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User conduct.4meter4 (talk) 17:11, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't say talking about the hook was unconstructive. Wasting everyone's time complaining about how your opponent is pushing "highly biased, uncivil, and odd" and how his behavior is "highly biased, uncivil, and odd", however, is unconstructive. rʨanaɢ (talk) 21:23, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As you know, I was one of the two primary contributors to Tosca, a FA and TFA. Dr. Dan has been tendentious in the extreme on this issue, even trying a quiet change several days after discussion had ceased (he had no real supporters) in the apparent hope that the article was unwatched. That he would use DYK as a substitute battleground upsets me.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:17, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No need for this debate to continue, especially not here. It's over guys. — Rlevse • Talk • 20:01, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mary Ewing-Mulligan

... that author and wine educator Mary Ewing-Mulligan was the first female American Master of Wine?

Created by Murgh (talk). Self nom at 23:02, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

length, date and references for the hook check out. Good to go. Voceditenore (talk) 12:57, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lycurgus Cup

... that the 4th century Roman glass Lycurgus Cup is dichroic; lit from in front it is green, but thanks to surface plasmon resonance it is red when lit from behind?

5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Nominated by Johnbod (talk) at 22:50, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Expanded from 2 lines today. Current refs 1 & 7; ~~please note move requested to proper capitalization of title.~~ (Move now done) Johnbod (talk) 22:57, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

( for the plasmon resonance). Wow, what an item. Images appear in order (ie. free, not fair use). hamiltonstone (talk) 04:17, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 (shorter:) "... that the 4th century Roman glass Lycurgus Cup is dichroic; lit from in front it is green, but lit from behind it changes to red?" Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:31, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Beit Hadfus Street

... that Jerusalem's Beit Hadfus Street was named "Street of the Printing Press" for the printing houses that established themselves here?

Created by Yoninah (talk). Self nom at 22:39, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified.--NortyNort (Holla) 03:39, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A Journey

~~... that within hours of its launch, A Journey, the memoir of Tony Blair, became the fastest-selling autobiography of all time?~~

5x expanded by TheRetroGuy (talk). Nominated by TheRetroGuy (talk) at 21:32, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alternative suggestions very welcome. TheRetroGuy (talk) 21:35, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5x expansion verified. Date, length OK. Tweaked hook and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:48, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just wondering, is "launch" the typical word to be used for a book's release? Would "release" or "publishing" be more accurate? -M.Nelson (talk) 02:09, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Probably "publication" is more accurate thinking about it. TheRetroGuy (talk) 08:53, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Let's go with this:
ALT1: ... that within hours of its publication, A Journey, the memoir of Tony Blair, became the fastest-selling autobiography of all time? Yoninah (talk) 19:10, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Parque México

... that Parque México park in Mexico City exists because environmental laws in the 1920s did not allow housing to be built on a former racetrack?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 20:46, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and 5x expansion check out. The hook is verified by an inline cite to a reliable source in Spanish (which I can read). I've tweaked the hook. It's good to go. Voceditenore (talk) 09:59, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

McBarge

... that the McBarge (pictured), a futuristic floating McDonald's built for Expo '86, has been anchored derelict next to an oil refinery since 1991?

Comment: A bit of help on the alttext would be nice!

Created by M.nelson (talk). Nominated by M.nelson (talk) at 20:41, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date checks out (the article was moved from user space on Sept. 7). Length OK (2000 characters). Hook verified by inline cite to a reliable source. I have made copyedits to the article to remove the maintenance tag. Voceditenore (talk) 10:35, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

James L. Swauger

... that James L. Swauger continued his archaeological work with petroglyphs for fifteen years after his nominal retirement?

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 19:58, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date check out. Offline reference accepted in good faith. Good job. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 00:24, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Riad al-Saray

... that Iraqi television presenter Riad al-Saray was assassinated the same day that Reporters Without Borders announced the Iraq War had killed more journalists than any since the Second World War?

Created by Dumelow (talk). Self nom at 19:50, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sako Chivitchian

... that Sako Chivitchian, a competitor on the twelfth season of The Ultimate Fighter, made his mixed martial arts debut at the age of 15, winning via armbar?

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 19:36, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Durrës–Tiranë railway

... that the Durrës–Tiranë railway was the second railway of Albania fineshed in 1948?

Created by Vinie007 (talk). Nominated by Vinie007 (talk) at 19:25, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"first": one of the sources states "The first railways in Albania were mineral and military narrow gauge lines built between 1917 and in the 1930’s, some of these systems were extensive, but none remain intact today.".--Wetman (talk) 04:22, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That was no railway, it was just a militairy prove of Zogu. --Vinie007 05:17, 8 September 2010, in 1930 it oppend for real (UTC)

Vinie please take your time to thoroughly review that article, because you have brought great sources such as this [9], but are not reading them. Zog came to power in 1924 and quit in 1939, so your answer to Wetman does not address what he is rightly pointing out to: the first railway was built in 1914-1918: In fact, according to the sources during World War I the Austrian Army built Decauville type Narrow gauge railways which were left in Albania, half destroyed. Still on the basis of these railways were built the first highways in Albania. Not only The Durres Tirane railway is NOT the first overall railway in Albania but it is not even the first standard gauge railway, because that would be the Durres Peqin railway as per source. You should also mention that as a standard gauge railway it may have been finished by volunteers in 1948, but it was started in 1940 during Albania under Italy and most of the work had already been done by 1946, so the glory was taken by the communist regime which hadn't done much as the source says Pas luftës së dytë botërore nisi faza e zbatimit të projektit të lënë nga Italianët. Këta të fundit kishin ndërtuar pothuajse të gjithë segmentin hekurudhor siç ishte traseja, vepra arti si ura dhe mbikalime. Still, please rework the history part and consider changing the hook into "did you know that it was the second passenger railway line" in Albania as the source says. In fact it was completed in 1949, whereas the Durres Peqin had been finished in 1948. --Sulmues ^(talk) 05:45, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fomes fomentarius

... that the 5,000 year-old Ötzi the Iceman was carrying four pieces of Hoof Fungus (modern specimen pictured) when he was found?

5x expanded by J Milburn (talk). Nominated by J Milburn (talk) at 18:34, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1520 Sedgwick Avenue

... that 1520 Sedgwick Avenue in The Bronx is considered the "birthplace of hip hop"?

Created by Freechild (talk). Nominated by Freechild (talk) at 18:49, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

David J. Weber

... that historian David J. Weber of Southern Methodist University was called "at least a generation ahead of his time in recognizing how entwined Mexico and the United States were and are"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:49, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified.--NortyNort (Holla) 03:35, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cody McKenzie

... that Cody McKenzie, who appeared on The Ultimate Fighter: Team GSP vs. Team Koscheck, has the second-most guillotine choke victories in the world according to Sherdog.com?

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 15:51, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Perls

... that Frank Perls, who as a U.S. Army interpreter in 1945 found a copy of the Nuremberg Laws signed by Hitler, was an art dealer who uncovered a series of forged works attributed to Degas and Picasso?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 14:52, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Citypark Albania

... that Citypark Albania with its 98 shops is the biggest shopping mall of Albania?

Created by Vinie007 (talk). Nominated by Vinie007 (talk) at 14:47, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Way too short at 686 characters of prose. Do let me know if you expand beyond 1,500 characters so I can re-evaluate :) Todor →Bozhinov 08:25, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed it, now it has 2335 characters!--Vinie007 08:49, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length is good now, but there are quality and referencing issues. I've elaborated at User talk:Vinie007#DYK nomination of Citypark Albania. Todor →Bozhinov 13:20, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed now --Vinie007 08:58, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is still no reference for the "170 shops" claim... Please place it right after the sentence where this is claimed and also in the infobox, where the reference says nothing of 170 shops. Although I'm still not convinced of the article's overall quality, I think it should pass so long as you can back up the 170 shops sentence. Todor →Bozhinov 10:51, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed--Vinie007 12:07, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Krohn Air

... that Krohn Air was started by a local businessman to continue the service after Scandinavian Airlines terminated their route from Molde to Trondheim in Norway?

5x expanded by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 13:38, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Scotty Moylan

... that Chicago native Scotty Moylan, who became one of Guam's most prominent businessmen, introduced the first Volkswagen automobiles to the island in the 1960s?

Created by Scanlan (talk). Nominated by Scanlan (talk) at 12:16, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified. --NortyNort (Holla) 03:18, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Don Graham (developer)

... that Don Graham developed the Ala Moana Center in Honolulu, the largest outdoor shopping mall in the United States?

Created by Scanlan (talk). Nominated by Scanlan (talk) at 12:11, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified. --NortyNort (Holla) 03:28, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Route Trident

... that Route Trident is the first road to be built by the Royal Engineers under fire since the Dhofar Rebellion in the early 1970s?

Created by Dumelow (talk). Self nom at 12:07, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mike Stepovich

... that while still the sitting Governor of Alaska Territory, Mike Stepovich appeared on the game show What's My Line?

5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 11:29, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ust-Ilimsk Hydroelectric Power Station

... that from 1980 to 2005, the Ust-Ilimsk Hydroelectric Power Station (pictured) in Russia generated over 600 billion kWh of electricity?

ALT1 ... that from 1980 to 2005, the Ust-Ilimsk Hydroelectric Power Station (pictured) in Russia generated more than enough power to light commercial and residential buildings in the United States during 2008?

Created/self-nom by --NortyNort (Holla) 08:52, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Main hook, date, length verified. ALT1 does not specify the year for comparison (e.g. 1776). KimChee (talk) 00:59, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 - the claim made is WP:SYNTHESIS, by comparing the dam's generation (from one source) to the USA consumption (from another source). -M.Nelson (talk) 01:57, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the sourcing part but it is a cut and dry comparison of just numbers, not ideology or actions. I didn't think it was a bad representation. --NortyNort (Holla) 08:46, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's true, but I just have an extremely strict view of synthesis. Maybe I'm a bit off from the overall community's interpretation; I let it go if a third party gives it the OK. FYI alt1 still needs to mention the US year (2008 I believe). Cheers, -M.Nelson (talk) 17:25, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Changed to 2008. --NortyNort (Holla) 22:27, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Irkutsk Hydroelectric Power Station

... that upon completion, the Irkutsk Hydroelectric Power Station was called a "pearl of Soviet water-power engineering" and 349 of its workers were awarded the Hero of Socialist Labour medal?

Created/self-nom by --NortyNort (Holla) 08:52, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chester A. Arnold, David P. Penhallow, & Azolla primaeva

... that the paleobotanists David P. Penhallow and Chester A. Arnold both published studies on the extinct water-fern Azolla primaeva?

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 08:45, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Could you add more inline citations to Chester A. Arnold to make it clear where the info regarding his wife + kids came from as well as the second halfs of the first + second paragraphs? Also, whilst the Azolla article says Penhallow wrote the description, I can only see that Arnold actually published a study on it. To me the hook implies that they both published separate studies, rather than them collaborating on one. Smartse (talk) 16:15, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

They did publish separate studies. As noted in the first sentence of the second paragraph Penhallow wrote the description for Azollophyllum primaevum that was published in the 1890 Dawson volume on BC fossils. Arnold redescribed the species as Azolla primaeva in 1955, 65 years later.--Kev min § 19:30, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have added citations for the paragraphs needed. However I removed the reference to wife and children, it was from the Fr.wiki stub article and not unfortunately referenced there. I have not been able to find any information on family other then parents. --Kev min § 19:30, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, sorry for not spotting the separate studies before. Smartse (talk) 19:49, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tanymastix stagnalis

... that Tanymastix stagnalis is the only species of fairy shrimp to occur in Ireland?

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 06:04, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified. Smartse (talk) 15:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wetumpka State Penitentiary

... that the Wetumpka State Penitentiary was the first state prison established in Alabama?

Created by WhisperToMe (talk). Nominated by Wilhelmina Will (talk) at 04:00, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified. --NortyNort (Holla) 01:43, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Society for Anglo-Chinese Understanding

... that in the 1970s the Society for Anglo-Chinese Understanding was one of the few organisations who could arrange visits from the United Kingdom to China?

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 03:37, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Everything checks out except there is an orphan tag on the article. --NortyNort (Holla) 01:39, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No longer an orphan with link from Joseph Needham. Christopher Connor (talk) 09:53, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go. --NortyNort (Holla) 13:54, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

HMS Thordön

... that after the Swedish monitor HMS Thordön ran aground and sank in 1883, the subsequent court-martial ordered the ship's captain to pay for the costs of the salvage and repairs, despite a misplaced buoy that caused the grounding?

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 03:32, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Theban Desert Road Survey

... that John and Deborah Coleman of the Theban Desert Road Survey have followed ancient caravan trails to discover a 3,500-year-old site at the Kharga Oasis in the middle of Egypt's Western Desert?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 02:21, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good. ℳono 02:35, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Need to reference the first paragraph first. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:40, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Additional references have been added to more explicitly support the hook. Alansohn (talk)

Electricity sector in Canada

... that the electricity sector in Canada is the world's second-largest producer of hydroelectricity, which accounted for 58% of all electric generation in 2007?

5x expanded by Bouchecl (talk). Self nom at 02:04, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Offline ref accepted in good faith. ℳono 02:36, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Added 2 online sources to back-up the original paywall-hidden source. Bouchecl (talk) 16:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Could "all its electric generation" be clarified? I'm pretty sure it means to say "[hydroelectricity] accounted for 58% of Canada's electric generation in 2007", but not exactly sure ("it" could be taken to refer to the world's electric generation). Cheers, -M.Nelson (talk) 20:08, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the its from the hook. I also fixed the article. The line now says: "Canada is the world's second-largest producer of hydroelectricity,which accounted for 58% of all electric generation in 2007". Thanks for your comment. Bouchecl (talk) 03:27, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

George Catleugh

... that professional footballer George Catleugh suffered a broken leg on two different occasions?

Created by WFCforLife (talk). Self nom at 01:31, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Checked. ℳono 02:38, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Caceres

... that Alex Caceres' nickname "Bruce Leeroy" is inspired by the character of the same nickname in The Last Dragon?

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 00:32, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Does not meet size requirement. ℳono 02:40, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done Paralympiakos (talk) 12:02, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ℳono 15:34, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on September 6

Unforgiven (1999)

... that, in a storyline, several referees attacked Jim Korderas at the World Wrestling Federation's Unforgiven 1999 event for not joining them in their strike?

Created by Richard "Wrestler" Lopez (talk). Nominated by GaryColemanFan (talk) at 02:25, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Renown class battlecruiser

... that the keels of both British Renown class battlecruisers were laid on 25 January 1915, six weeks before the contracts were finalized on 10 March?

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 22:52, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified, although I think there is far too much info here for a ship class article - a lot should be in the individual ship articles. Also delinked "battlecruiser" in the hook as this is not a new article. Gatoclass (talk) 07:37, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

'U' (opera)

... that the first Klingon language opera, 'u', premiered at The Hague on 9 September 2010?

Created by Ssilvers (talk). Nominated by Ssilvers (talk) at 13:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fantastic article! As an opera buff and sci-fi fan I thoroughly enjoyed reading about this. Date, length, refs, and hook verified.4meter4 (talk) 13:58, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Norid, .sj, .bv

... that Norid manages two unused top-level domains, .sj for Svalbard and Jan Mayen, and .bv for Bouvet Island?

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 07:03, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Clotworthy

Voice sample by Robert Clotworthy

Problems playing this file? See media help.

... that Robert Clotworthy is the voice of Jim Raynor in StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty?

Created by Deskana (talk). Self nom at 22:26, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified. I don't think we can use the sound clip on the main page though, it sounds too promotional. Gatoclass (talk) 07:48, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I must disagree with you about the sound bite being too promotional. The only reason it could possibly sound promotional to me is because it's such high quality and so professionally done, but this person is a professional voice actor so pretty much anything he does will be of amazing quality. Besides, even if it is a bit promotional, the amount of information that's conveyed by actually getting a free sample of a voice actor's voice is worth it even if it's a little promotional. If we must, we can include the headshot that he also kindly donated, but that somewhat defeats the point since he's known for how he sounds and not how he looks. --Deskana (talk) 09:35, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't object to the sound file being included in the article itself but I think it's too promotional for the main page. However, I'm happy to hear what other reviewers think. Gatoclass (talk) 12:27, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think it is an excellent clip, with high EV, illustrating the subject of the article. I strongly support the use of this clip. I have carefully checked policies and guidelines, and can see no reason for objection. There is nothing promotional about it. Chzz ► 15:27, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sespe Formation

... that the Sespe Formation consists predominantly of sandstones and conglomerates between the upper Eocene epoch to the end of the Oligocene? Created by Antandrus (talk) Nominated by moreno oso (talk) 07:57, 8 September 2010 (UTC) [reply]

ALT1 ... that the Sespe Formation has produced 400 million barrels of oil in Ventura County, California?

ALT2 ... that the Sespe Formation's sedimentary rocks, which resulted from the millions of years of deposition, included mudstones and siltstones due to erosion of mountains and floodplain alluvium?

I think you will need to add the locality (ie California) to all the hooks. Gatoclass (talk) 07:50, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Palm Islands Nature Reserve

... that Alice of Champagne the widowed Queen Consort of Cyprus married Bohemond V of Antioch on the Palm Island offshore of Tripoli in 1224?

Eli +. Self nom at 17:32, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1 ... that the Palm Island was the scene of a massacre perpetrated by the Mamelukes against the Tripolitans in 1289?

Created by Eli +. Self nom at 17:32, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified. I removed the U/C tag for DYK purposes. Nice article, a good combination of geography, history and the preserve.--NortyNort (Holla) 01:50, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Life at the Bottom: The Worldview That Makes the Underclass

... that in Life at the Bottom: The Worldview That Makes the Underclass, Theodore Dalrymple interviewed over ten thousand people who had attempted suicide?

Created by Silver seren (talk). Self nom at 02:11, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1 ... that for his book Life at the Bottom: The Worldview That Makes the Underclass, Theodore Dalrymple interviewed over ten thousand people who had attempted suicide?

Length and date check out. Suggest ALT 1 as a clearer hook. Two issues though, the hook reference needs a page number, suggest using this link to page vii. Also, the book does not appear to be a novel, yet states: "The novel is separated into two main sections..." Voceditenore (talk) 14:07, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alt 1 is perfectly fine. I have updated the hook ref, among the others directly related to the book, and I have changed the word "novel" to "collection". Silverseren^C 14:29, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
All issues addressed now and good to go. Voceditenore (talk) 17:46, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, not so fast: in ALT1, the commas after 'book' and 'underclass' are incorrect: the man wrote more than one book. Drmies (talk) 19:26, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're right. I've removed the first comma, but kept the second to set off the prepositional phrase. Voceditenore (talk) 19:49, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I am yet more picky--if you want to set off the prep. phrase, put a comma between 'that' and 'for', since "... that" is the first word of a dependent clause, and the prepositional phrase, "for...Underclass," is the prep. phrase proper, an adjunct of sorts. Thanks, and sorry to be such an antf***er, as the Dutch say. Drmies (talk) 23:28, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I've added a comma after "that", although I'm not overly convinced about adding it after a conjunction. But never mind. ;-) I'll leave it to the admins to make any final tweaks. Voceditenore (talk) 00:29, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if we have any admins here who know grammar--rodent teeth, global warming, and windmills, sure, but grammar? ;) (And "that" is not a conjunction...OK, I'll stop now.) Drmies (talk) 01:44, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In most modern linguistic analyses, "that" in the above sentence is the subordinating conjunction introducing the noun clause which is the direct object of "know". Before we write an entire tome here over the placement of a comma, I suggest we continue this on my talk page. ;-). Best, Voceditenore (talk) 11:35, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Darling It Hurts

... that the title of "Darling It Hurts", a top 20 Billboard Mainstream Rock Chart single by Australian rock group Paul Kelly and the Coloured Girls, was based on a piece of infamous Sydney graffiti?

Created by Dan_arndt (Dan_arndt). Nominated by Dan_arndt (Dan_arndt) at 01:36, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Couldn't confirm that the song was based on a famous piece of graffiti from either of the supplied links. Gatoclass (talk) 07:57, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Arbeiderklassens Samlingsparti

... that at the same time as the Norwegian Labour and the Social Democratic Labour parties reunited, a competing "Unified Party of the Working Class" was founded?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 22:09, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest you add a date (ie year) to the hook. Gatoclass (talk) 07:59, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Leo Trepp

... that interned in the Sachsenhausen concentration camp, Rabbi Leo Trepp said "I know God was there. In the concentration camp with me. And it was the worst place for it. That's why it was the best"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 14:20, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1 ... that of his internment in Sachsenhausen, Rabbi Leo Trepp said "I know God was there. In the concentration camp with me. And it was the worst place for it. That's why it was the best"?

Date and length check out. ~~However, there is no inline citation for the quote in the hook (and two other direct quotes in the article also lack inline cites).~~ The wording of the original hook isn't quite right. It implies he said it while he was interned. Would ALT 1 be better? Voceditenore (talk) 20:12, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't sure if the article's creator could get back here soon, so I added the inline cites myself. It's good to go now, but strongly recommend ALT 1 as the hook. Voceditenore (talk) 00:17, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vnukovo Airlines Flight 2801

... that Vnukovo Airlines Flight 2801 killed 141 people when it crashed into a mountain in the Arctic archipelago of Svalbard, making it the deadliest aviation accident ever in Norway?

5x expanded by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 13:49, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I dont quite get 5x expansion.Thelmadatter (talk) 20:59, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The way the script I use counts it, if the references are removed, there are 3476 characters. Then the threshold for a 5x is 17380, which is lower than the now 17636. If you're using the script I use, it will come with the wrong result, because it counts some of the references as prose. Arsenikk ^(talk) 22:11, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I count 3489 characters minus infobox, list, refs and headings from 2 Sept, and 17693 from now, minus infobox, refs, headings and image captions. 3489 x 5 = 17445; 17693 > 17445; therefore 5x expansion, date, and ref check out. Ready. Strange Passerby (talk) 05:51, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

London mayoral election, 2012

... that Ken Livingstone, the Mayor of London from 2000 to 2008, is running to regain the office at the 2012 London mayoral election?

5x expanded by Franklinville (talk). Nominated by Franklinville (talk) at 11:49, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date, and reference verified. Cunard (talk) 07:17, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Madonna of humility

... that art historian Andrew Ladis described the Madonna of humility (pictured), painted by Domenico di Bartolo in 1433, as one of the most innovative devotional images from the early Renaissance?

--> Created by History2007 (talk). Nominated by History2007 (talk) at 06:11, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Here is the link to verify the hook claim: [10]. History2007 (talk) 10:22, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The date and length are fine. ~~My only concern is the weasel phrasing both in the hook and in the article itself, i.e. "is considered" by whom?.~~ Suggest changing the first sentence in the Examples section of the article (and in the hook) to something like:

ALT1 "... that art historian Andrew Ladis has described Domenico di Bartolo's Madonna of humility (pictured), painted in 1433, as one of the most innovative devotional images from the early Renaissance?"

This would be fully supported by the inline citation used for the for current sentence. Voceditenore (talk) 13:54, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fine, no problem. I changed it as such. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 14:13, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go now. Voceditenore (talk) 14:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oskar Höcker, Gustav Höcker, Paul Oskar Höcker, Karla Höcker, Lessing Theater

... that the family of Oskar Höcker, a German writer, included three more writers--his brother Gustav Höcker, his son Paul Oskar Höcker, and his granddaughter Karla Höcker?

Created by Drmies (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 05:11, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest piping the names, like this: ALT: ... that the family of Oskar Höcker, a German writer and a celebrated actor of the Lessing Theater, included three more writers--his brother Gustav, his son Paul Oskar, and his granddaughter Karla?

Looks good to me. Now, if you can get Karla pregnant and have her raise a writer within the next few days, I can make this a quintuple. Unfortunately her great-grandfather had a menial job, and she didn't have kids. Drmies (talk) 17:01, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I managed to add one to the set, and have stuck Lessing Theater into the hook suggested above. Do I need to file more paperwork? ;) Oh, if there's any German natives around, that article comes straight out of the German wiki, and I have no doubt that it's tortured prose: proofreading would be appreciated. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 18:33, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Burton Ellis

... that as civil defense director at the height of the Cold War in 1961, Frank B. Ellis pushed for the adoption of fallout shelters to protect civilians from long-term hazards of nuclear attack?

5x expanded by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:35, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hook ref does not appear to be reliable. Please find a reliable source. ℳono 02:44, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Two other sources added. Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:22, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shigeki Osawa

... that there is debate in the media about whether Shigeki Osawa's fight against Katsuya Toida was a no contest or a disqualification win for Osawa due to accidental kicks to the groin?

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 23:36, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Johnson (fighter)

... that Michael Johnson signed with the Ultimate Fighting Championship promotion to appear on The Ultimate Fighter: Team GSP vs. Team Koscheck?

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 23:30, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Aaron Wilkinson

... that due to his pale complexion and resemblance to a character from the Blade films, Aaron Wilkinson's coaches nicknamed him The Daywalker?

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 23:27, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Banglabandha

... that the Banglabandha inland port is aimed at increasing trade between Bangladesh, Nepal, India and Bhutan?

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 23:13, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Château Raymond-Lafon

... that Sauternes wine producer Château Raymond-Lafon's vines were just five years old during the Bordeaux Wine Official Classification of 1855 and too young for classification?

Created by Murgh (talk). Self nom at 23:02, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Douglas of Mains

... that 'Malcolm Douglas of Mains and his father-in-law were both found guilty of conspiring to kidnap King James VI of Scotland in the Raid of Ruthven and were publicly executed after their trial in 1584?

Created by Wikiwayman (talk). Self nom at 20:23, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1 ... that Malcolm Douglas of Mains was found guilty of conspiring to kidnap King James VI of Scotland in the Raid of Ruthven and was publicly executed after his trial in 1584? Wikiwayman (talk • contribs) 20:23, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT 2 ... that Malcolm, Lord Douglas of Mains and others were found guilty of kidnapping King James VI of Scotland in the Raid of Ruthven and were publicly executed after their trial in 1584? Wikiwayman (talk) 10:06, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The title of the article needs to be in bold letters - in this case Malcolm's name seems to be fine. The ref given in the article (#16) for the father-in-law seems to be confused. In the article it is: The miscellany of the Woodrow Society, by Laing; but the weblink shoots to the book Scotland, by Scott, and page 35 of that book doesn't seem to have anything to do with the father-in-law. So I can't verify it. I'm not sure www.ncgenweb.us (ref #17) can be considered a reliable source. WikiSource has the ODB and it mentions Mains' execution here (at the bottom): [11], but the bit doesn't mention the father-in-law's execution. I can't fully verify the ref that cites McAndrew, since i've used up all my free views of that book on GoogleBooks! I can only see that it mentions Mains' execution, I can't tell whether it mentions the father-in-law or not. The Nuttall Encyclopedia ref doesn't mention either Mains or his father-in-law. So i can't verify the father-in-law, everything else seems to be OK. I'll add the ODB reference into the article.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 06:46, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I found a ref that gives the verdict of the trial and sentencing. It's in 16th century Scots, so it's hard to read; not sure if it states that Drumquhassle is Mains' father-in-law. If we can't find a RS that says they are related, then how about just giving his name, "John Cunningham of Drumquhassle". We could also spice up the hook to mention they were sentenced to be hanged, drawn and quartered.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 07:48, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK to go without "father-in-law" - ref's for female ancestry are generally more difficult. How about -

ALT 3 ... that Malcolm, Lord Douglas of Mains and John Cunningham of Drumquhassle were found guilty of kidnapping King James VI of Scotland in the Raid of Ruthven, were sentenced to be hanged, drawn and quartered and were publicly executed after their trial in 1584? Wikiwayman (talk) 19:15, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've taken out "father-in-law" from the article and replaced it with "member of wife's family" as there is a reference to Janet Cunningham of Drumquhassle being married to poor old Malcolm. I've also take out the "ncgenweb" source - it was unnecessary given the other sources. Wikiwayman (talk) 14:50, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The World of Strawberry Shortcake

... that The World of Strawberry Shortcake, the first television special to feature American Greetings' Strawberry Shortcake character, was rejected by the major U.S. networks and premiered in syndication instead?

5x expanded by Slgrandson (talk). Nominated by Slgrandson (talk) at 20:15, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mitford Castle

... that each of the five sides of Mitford Castle's keep has a different dimension?

5x expanded by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 19:41, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

— Rlevse • Talk • 21:56, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Cocktail Hour

... that playwright A.R. Gurney promised his parents that his play The Cocktail Hour would not be produced in their hometown of Buffalo, New York, during their lifetimes?

Created by MelanieN (talk). Self nom at 19:38, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Leon Belasco

... that in a sixty year career Leon Belasco appeared in films with the Marx Brothers, Bob Hope, James Cagney, Humphrey Bogart and Fred Astaire?

Created by Jack1956 (talk). Nominated by Jack1956 (talk) at 19:21, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ibacus peronii

... that the meat of the slipper lobster Ibacus peronii (pictured) is considered inferior to that of the Moreton Bay bug because it sometimes tastes of garlic?

5x expanded by Stemonitis (talk). Nominated by Stemonitis (talk) at 18:52, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'd consider ready-seasoned lobster to be a good thing! Smartse (talk) 21:56, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bangladesh-Nepal relations

... that in retaliation to Nepal recognising Bangladesh in 1971, Pakistan broke-off its ties with Nepal?

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 18:51, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The "Map indicating location of Bangladesh and Nepal" is broken, also is it necessary to say that the relations were "cordial and progressive"? Geschichte (talk) 22:12, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've proceeded to remove "cordial" in favor of just "progressive." The map has to be drawn by somebody who has that software, which I don't. We can remove the box itself if you like, but I don't think its a problem. Shiva (Visnu) 00:20, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A map has now been created very kindly by Pahari Sahib. Shiva (Visnu) 00:43, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Henri Gascar

... that Henri Gascar painted portraits of many leading ladies at the court of King Charles II of England including several of the king's mistresses?

5x expanded by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 17:25, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

HMS Tirfing (1866)

... that the Swedish monitor HMS Tirfing only made a single overseas voyage, when she visited the ports of Helsingfors, later known as Helsinki, and Kronstadt in August 1867, during her career?

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 17:24, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT: ... that the Swedish monitor HMS Tirfing only made a single overseas voyage during her career, when she visited the ports of Helsingfors and Kronstadt in 1867?

Colonia Guerrero, Mexico City

... that Colonia Guerrero in Mexico City was part of an old colonial-era indigenous neighborhood?

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 17:22, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Bravo

... that The Bravo is James Fenimore Cooper's first novel set in Europe and was largely disliked by contemporary American critics?

Created by Sadads (talk). Self nom at 16:57, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

. Length, hook, novelty status verified. No issues, good to go! --Sulmues ^(talk) 03:33, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Christine Berrie

... that Scottish illustrator Christine Berrie is known for her industrial-themed illustrations, including gas meters, dials, buttons and switches, machinery, and appliances?

Created by Kindzmarauli (talk). Self-nom at 16:45, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Need to make up to 1,500 characters to be elegible for DYK. Check here. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 10:01, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have expanded it above 1500. Kindzmarauli (talk) 21:35, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 (shorter) "... that Scottish artist Christine Berrie is known for her industrial-themed illustrations, including gas meters, dials, buttons, switches, machinery, and appliances?
OK for length, style and internet references, other refs accepted in good faith. ALT1 might be the better hook - shorter and no repetition. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:18, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Inland Customs Line

... that the Inland Customs Line stretched across more than 2,500 miles (4,000 km) of British India and was compared to the Great Wall of China?

ALT1:... that the Inland Customs Line stretched across more than 2,500 miles (4,000 km) of British India and in parts was made from an Indian Plum hedge (pictured) 12 feet (3.7 m) high and 14 feet (4.3 m) thick?
Comment: Quite complicated this one. The original article was at Great Hedge of India, I rewrote it in userspace and moved it to Inland Customs Line and made the Great Hedge page a redirect. You should be able to find the previous article in the history of that page. Please feel free to run this without the picture if you want, to use a different picture or to suggest more alternative hooks (there's plenty of interesting things about this barrier!).

5x expanded by Dumelow (talk). Self nom at 16:29, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nannygate

... that during the Nannygate political controversy of 1993, Americans asked each other if they too had a certain kind of problem?

Created by Wasted Time R (talk). Self nom at 16:25, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

[Note: there was previously a disambiguation page at this location. I have moved to that to Nannygate (disambiguation), as the 1993 matter, which did not previously have an article devoted to it, is clearly the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Wasted Time R (talk) 16:25, 6 September 2010 (UTC)][reply]

This hook is a little misleading. "Once the Nannygate matter broke into the news, the question "Do you have a Zoë Baird problem?" became frequently asked by Americans of each other in casual conversation, with many answers being in the affirmative." is the best quote from the article supporting the hook. Its not really "each other" and the problem is explictly stated as a "Zoë Baird problem." I would recommend:

ALT 1 ... that during the Nannygate political controversy of 1993, Americans were asked if they had a "Zoë Baird problem."? Thelmadatter (talk) 17:31, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I thought about that originally, but I was trying to tease the reader a bit more with the hook! I also wanted to avoid a Zoë Baird link inside a quotation, which is generally bad form per WP:LINK. And I am not sure why you think "each other" is not appropriate, since that is what was happening. Your phrasing of "Americans were asked ..." makes it sound like the government or a polling firm or some other institution like that was doing the asking, which is not the case. Wasted Time R (talk) 00:35, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2010 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup Final

... that the Columbus Crew and Seattle Sounders FC qualified for the 2010 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup Final?

5x expanded by Skotywa (talk). Self nom at 15:42, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, issue here I need a more experienced DYKer to look over. You're supposed to list articles under the date the expansion began. In this case, it's September 2, but you've listed it under September 6. One of the rules for expansion asks us to compare the versions with the last version from the day before. Comparing the current version v.s. the one from August 11, 5x expansion is a yes. Comparing it against September 5, it's a no. Also, I'm not comfortable with promoting an article with an empty section (in this case "analysis") for use on the Main Page. And there's got to be a more interesting hook. Strange Passerby (talk) 05:41, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry if I've listed this on the wrong day. The fivefold expansion took place from Sept. 4-6. If the nom should be listed on the 4th instead, I'm happy to move it. I've removed the empty section for now. As the we get closer to the event (on Oct. 5), it will be added again and filled in with details. I tried to keep the hook simple. Below are some more detailed alternatives. --SkotyWA^T_C 06:27, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1:... that Seattle Sounders FC will be defending their U.S. Open Cup title on their home field, Qwest Field, in the 2010 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup Final against the Columbus Crew?
ALT2:... that Seattle Sounders FC defeated the Portland Timbers in a penalty shootout before advancing to 2010 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup Final?

Colony (restaurant)

... that the executive chef of the Colony in Central London is Michelin-starred chef Atul Kochhar?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 15:00, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Duerosuchus

... that unlike other Eocene crocodilians found from Zamora, Spain, the extinct genus Duerosuchus was primarily a fish eater?

Created by Smokeybjb (talk). Nominated by Smokeybjb (talk) at 13:19, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Operation Musketoon

... that in 1942, seven commandos captured during Operation Musketoon were briefly held at Colditz Castle before being executed at Sachsenhausen concentration camp?

Alt1

... that in 1942, seven commandos captured during Operation Musketoon were executed at Sachsenhausen concentration camp?

5 times expansion and Self nom by --Jim Sweeney (talk) 10:15, 6 September 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Scoresby Sund

... that the Scoresby Sund (pictured) is the world's largest fjord system?

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 08:19, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, hook and pic. verified. Bejinhan talks 06:58, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Aboyne Castle

... that the location of Aboyne Castle was selected for its strategic position near the Dee and controlling the northern end of one of the Mounth crossings?

5x expanded by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 05:18, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion 5x check, date check, offline reference accepted in good faith. Strange Passerby (talk) 13:31, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2004 British Open (snooker)

... that former world snooker champion Shaun Murphy reached the semi-finals of a ranking event for the first time at the 2004 British Open?

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 04:24, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tamora, Nebraska

... that Tamora, Nebraska was named for the day after today?

Created by Ammodramus (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 03:37, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go.Thelmadatter (talk) 14:19, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Satch Davidson

... that Satch Davidson was plate umpire when Hank Aaron hit his record 715th home run and in Game 6 of the 1975 World Series when Carlton Fisk's 12th inning home run won the game for the Boston Red Sox?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:21, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date, hook cited. Ready to go. Strange Passerby (talk) 13:17, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Govindadasa

... that a song by the 16th c. Bengali Vaishnava padavali poet Govindadasa was included in an opera written under a disguised name by Rabindranath Tagore?

Created by Mukerjee (talk). Self nom at 01:09, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

note: the article "Vaishnava padavali" is also new and meets DYK criteria. should we have both in bold? however, the hook is referenced only in Govindadasa. --mukerjee (talk) 01:09, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 5

Vaqueros Formation

... that the Vaqueros Formation and its fossils in the Simi Valley date from the Upper Oligocene epoch? 5x expanded by Antandrus (talk) Nominated by moreno oso (talk) 06:50, 9 September 2010 (UTC) [reply]

ALT1 ... that the Vaqueros Formation has weathered to a clay soil which supports chaparral on the southern slopes of the Santa Ynez Mountains?

ALT2 ... that the Vaqueros Formation along with the underlying Sespe Formation is the second-most important producing petroleum horizon in Southern California?

This nomination was combined with two others by Antandrus into a just-approved nomination [12]. Yoninah (talk) 17:11, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Burgess (illustrator)

... that illustrator of children's literature Mark Burgess has been noted for his ability to reproduce the style of dead artists such as Allan Curless and E. H. Shepard?

Comment: Article was nominated for deletion on September 4. Article expansion began on September 5, when it was tagged for rescue. Though deletion discussion is still open, it's almost certain to result in keep.

5x expanded by Codehydro (talk) and Colonel Warden (talk). Self nom at 18:17, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AfD resulted in Keep. 5x expansion verified. Date, length OK. Hook fact verified and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:30, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Crown of Augustus II the Strong

... that the Crown of Augustus II, a replacement for the Polish Crown Jewels, was never used becouse of two monks, who broke into the State Treasury the Wawel Castle and stole the original regalia?

5x expanded by BurgererSF (talk) 09:44, 8 September 2010 (UTC). Nominated by BurgererSF (talk) 09:44, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, there is a 5x expansion here, but as it is, the article is under 1500 characters. It also reads like a story rather than an encyclopedic entry. Yoninah (talk) 19:35, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Berat County

... according to legend, Tomorr Mountain in Berat County was personified by a giant who fought his brother for the love of a young woman, who weeped over their deaths to create the Osum River?

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 18:38, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Added an img of Tomorr mountain and Osum River.-- N.V.V. Char ^Talk. 03:09, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

. Length, hook and expansion verified. I will also create a river with my tears for the fact that Dr. Blofeld is writing the Albanian articles way better than me! --Sulmues ^(talk) 23:53, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kakiemon elephants

... that the porcelain Kakiemon elephant (pictured) was made when elephants would not have been seen in Japan?

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 09:05, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

. Hook, length, and novelty status verified. Good to go! --Sulmues ^(talk) 11:52, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tanners' Bridge

... that the Tanners' Bridge on the Lanë brook served from the 18th century to the 1930s when Lanë's course was changed?

Created by Vinie007 (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 23:50, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Slightly easier-to-understand ALT1: ...that beginning in the 18th century, Tanners' Bridge was used to cross Lanë in Tirana until the stream was redirected in the 1930s?
Also wondering, is there a source for the bridge's English name? Strange Passerby (talk) 13:14, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1971–72 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

... that although the 1971–72 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team only finished third in the Big Ten Conference, they led the conference in scoring, field goal percentage, and rebounding?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 23:01, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article is under 1500 char. Yoninah (talk) 17:14, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1970–71 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

... that the 1970–71 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team had one player lead the Big Ten Conference in field goal percentage for the season and another set the school career record?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 22:57, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1968–69 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

... that Rudy Tomjanovich set the current Michigan Wolverines men's basketball single-game rebounding and scoring records while playing for the 1968–69 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 22:51, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. The hooks for the 68-69 and 69-70 teams are quite similar. They could be readily combined into a multi as follows:

alt 1 that Rudy Tomjanovich set the current Michigan Wolverines men's basketball single-game and career rebounding records while playing for the 1968-69 and 1969-70 teams? Cbl62 (talk) 20:35, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
alt 2 that Rudy Tomjanovich set the current Michigan Wolverines men's basketball single-game and career rebounding records while playing for the 1968-69 and 1969-70 teams? Cbl62 (talk) 20:35, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Double and triple noms look much better Victuallers (talk) 16:57, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1969–70 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

... that Rudy Tomjanovich set the current Michigan Wolverines men's basketball career rebounding record while playing for the 1969–70 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 22:52, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. See proposed multi hook alt above. Cbl62 (talk) 20:37, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Södermanland Runic Inscription Fv1948;295

... that on Swedish runestone Sö Fv1948;295, the R rune is represented by the shape of the tongue of a serpent?

Created by Deanlaw (talk). Self nom at 22:03, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length OK. Foreign-language hook ref AGF. Added bolding and question-mark to hook and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:40, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fred Preaus

... that Earl K. Long in 1956 used humor to derail the candidacy of gubernatorial opponent Fred Preaus, a scrupulously honest, small-town automobile dealer from Farmerville, Louisiana?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 13:11, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, hook ref verified. Tweaked hook and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:58, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eureka Masonic College

... that for many decades, the schoolhouse in Mississippi known as the birthplace of the Order of the Eastern Star housed a segregated school for African Americans?

5x expanded by Orlady (talk). Nominated by Orlady (talk) at 03:59, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5x expansion verified. Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:22, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Greenland Sea, West Ice

... that in April 1952, five Norwegian seal hunting ships disappeared in the West Ice of the Greenland Sea (pictured)?

Comment: See the end of West Ice article. Materialscientist (talk) 23:56, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 23:56, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wow I'm impressed at your work on CORE articles on here. If anybody has an idea of what articles should be expanded asap it is you. Dr. Blofeld 17:04, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go, AGF as I don't speak Norwegian. Smartse (talk) 18:31, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kitwana Jones

... that Saskatchewan Roughriders defensive lineman Kitwana Jones (pictured) was nicknamed "Batman" after chasing down and apprehending a purse snatcher?

Comment: I did 5X expansion using prose size (125 words --> 628)

5x expanded by Canada Hky (talk). Self nom at 23:44, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion, date, hook, length all check out. KimChee (talk) 00:59, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

HMS John Ericsson

... that the Swedish monitor HMS John Ericsson was sold in 1919 to the Gotland Cement Company which converted her to a barge?

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 23:13, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date, hook, and refs checked. Haus^Talk 15:54, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

King of the Ring (1996)

... that Jerry Lawler and Ultimate Warrior's match at the World Wrestling Federation's King of the Ring (1996) resulted from an argument over artistic abilities?

5x expanded by Richard "Wrestler" Lopez (talk). Nominated by GaryColemanFan (talk) at 21:44, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5x expansion verified. Date, length OK. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 17:22, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Vinyl Conflict

... that The Vinyl Conflict is an upcoming box set by the thrash metal band Slayer that will include ten of their albums?

Created by CrowzRSA (talk). Nominated by CrowzRSA (talk) at 19:54, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, hook fact all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 16:32, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Economy of England in the Middle Ages

... that the Economy of England in the Middle Ages benefited from the discovery of huge silver deposits near Carlisle in 1133?

Created by Hchc2009 (talk). Nominated by Hchc2009 (talk) at 19:54, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Style, length and references (hook checks out at Google books) look good, but footnotes needed for the introduction as well. Nominate for feautured article? How about rephrasing the hook to:

ALT1 "... that in 1133, the English economy received a major boost when huge silver deposits were discovered near Carlisle?" Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:51, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Will add footnotes for the intro tomorrow. Like the ALT1. Hchc2009 (talk) 19:54, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Footnotes have been added for the intro as requested! Hchc2009 (talk) 19:56, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is ready to go. Sorry, my mistake about the footnotes - they aren't needed for the intro if it summarises text cited in the main body. See Did you know, D2. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:39, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I hate to be a bit of a spoil sport here, particularly since I think that overall this is quite an excellent article, but I do have to quibble with the hook. What the source actually says is that the discovery produced a "local boom" - this is quite different than having a "major boost" to the entire medieval English economy (issues about monetary expansion leading to inflation rather than increases in standards of living aside). I'd prefer a hook on something like the Black Death which had a far greater and wider impact on the medieval English economy than any silver discovery (and raised wages much higher and for much longer).radek (talk) 09:58, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2 "... that the huge loss of life during the Black Death caused significant wage inflation in the Medieval English economy?" Hchc2009 (talk) 20:52, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

would ALT2 be better as "due to the Black Death" rather than "during the Black Death"? EdChem (talk) 16:12, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Longitudinal Video Recording

... that Bing Crosby was a key backer in the development of Longitudinal Video Recording in the 1950s?

Created by Yorkshiresky (talk). Nominated by Yorkshiresky (talk). at 19:26, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:26, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Amankila

... that the design of Amankila, a coastal Balinese hotel, was inspired by the palaces of Ujung and Tirtagangga?

Created by Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 17:40, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I question the notability of this subject. It only quotes hotel sources and one write-up of its services in a newspaper. How does it satisfy GNG? Yoninah (talk) 17:26, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Clyde Refinery

... that the Clyde Refinery located in Clyde, New South Wales is Australia's oldest oil refinery?

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Self nom at 17:35, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article says it is the "longest operating oil refinery in Australia" but doesn't mention that it is the oldest refinery. I've added oil to the hook to make it clear that this is an oil refinery. Smartse (talk) 16:25, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Reuters ref states ... at the 82-year-old refinery -- Australia's oldest-- in the past 12 months doesn't it? BineMai 16:46, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well yes, but it doesn't say anything about it in the article! Smartse (talk) 18:00, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that the Clyde Refinery located in Clyde, New South Wales is Australia's longest operating oil refinery?

ALT1 is good to go. Smartse (talk) 21:03, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1983–84 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

... that 1983–84 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team won the 1984 National Invitation Tournament?

5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 17:23, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5x expansion verified. Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 17:32, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

William Piers (constable)

~~... that in 1574, Walter Devereux, 1st Earl of Essex arrested William Piers and attempted to have him detained in Carrickfergus Castle?~~

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 17:12, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that constable William Piers received a reward for bringing the head of Shane Ó Neill, "pickled in a pipkin", to Sir Henry Sidney? --Rosiestep (talk) 04:14, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. The ALT1 hook is much more fun and good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:32, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1980–81 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

... that Mike McGee set numerous Big Ten Conference records for the 1980–81 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team who hold the current Big Ten record for most overtime games in a season?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 15:16, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1979–80 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

... that the 1979–80 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team qualified for the 1980 National Invitation Tournament even though they were unranked in the AP Poll all season?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 15:16, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. This is not an unusual fact. The NCAA tournament attracted the top teams, and it was therefore typical that teams invited to the NIT were unranked. Isn't there a better hook than this? Cbl62 (talk) 02:36, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(alt)... that the 1979–80 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team included Mike McGee who was the first Michigan Wolverines men's basketball player to play over 50 minutes in a game?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:47, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SMS Braunschweig

... that the German battleship SMS Braunschweig (pictured) engaged the Russian battleship Slava during the Battle of the Gulf of Riga during World War I?

5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 15:05, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion and hook is verified. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 19:52, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Amanjiwo

... that the Amanjiwo hotel in Central Java, Indonesia is built from local limestone?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 13:48, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Book reference accepted in good faith. Length is fine and date checks out too. Strange Passerby (talk) 13:03, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of music concerts at the Millennium Stadium

~~... that for music concerts held at the Millennium Stadium, 12 drapes can reduce audience seating from 46,000 down to 12,000?~~

Created by Seth Whales (talk). Self nom at 11:26, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, hook ref verified. Tweaked hook and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:07, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortuantely by tweaking it, the hook is incorrect, I have tweaked it again myself. SethWhales^talk 09:43, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that for music concerts held at the Millennium Stadium, 12 drapes can vary the audience size from over 73,000 down to between 12,000 and 46,000 depending on where they are hung?

I wasn't trying to make it incorrect; that's what I saw in the reference. I do not see the number 73,000 in the BBC reference that you give; at most it infers 70,000. Yoninah (talk) 11:15, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Adolf Heyrowsky

... that flying ace Hauptmann Adolf Heyrowsky (pictured) died in 1945, on the brink of promotion to Generalmajor?

5x expanded by Fridae'sDoom (talk). Self nom at 10:42, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

x5 expension? It looks very similar to the version of it in May this year? Can you explain? It must be x5 expension in pure text (ie pics, titles, quotes, refs etc don't count) Victuallers (talk) 16:36, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's actually smaller in size than in April, plus it says he was an Oberst in WWII, not a Hauptmann. — Rlevse • Talk • 21:08, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The refs were listed multiple times without ref names so I merged the refs. Ah rank anomalies noted and fixed. Internal links that were dead were removed, I just cleaned it up.

Alt 1:

... that flying ace Oberst Adolf Heyrowsky (pictured) died in 1945, on the brink of promotion to Generalmajor?

Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм | Champagne? 02:48, 6 September 2010 (UTC) - it is not new .... it isnt eligable for DYK. Articles have to substantially less than 5 days old Victuallers (talk) 15:48, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but even using DYKcheck tool, the readable prose only went up 30k or so, a fraction of 1X, far from 5x. Rank anomaly still exists in hook too. — Rlevse • Talk • 20:56, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dabar Bridge

... that 354 metres (1,161 feet) long and 60 metres (200 feet) tall Dabar Bridge carries the Croatian A1 motorway across a flash flood gully rather than a permanent watercourse?

Created by Tomobe03 (talk). Self nom at 10:32, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hungarian Crown

... that the so-called Hungarian Crown (pictured), part of the Polish Crown Jewels, was modelled after the Holy Crown of Hungary?

Created by BurgererSF (talk) 10:19, 5 September 2010 (UTC). Nominated by BurgererSF (talk) 10:19, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 19:07, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen Lekapenos and Constantine Lekapenos

... that the brothers Stephen and Constantine Lekapenos overthrew their father, the Byzantine emperor Romanos I Lekapenos, only to be themselves removed from power by Constantine VII after a few weeks?

Created by Dimadick (talk). Nominated by Cplakidas (talk) at 07:46, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1976–77 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

... that 1976–77 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team reached the Regional finals of the 1977 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament on the stregth of a record-setting rebounding performance by Phil Hubbard?

5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 07:35, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1975–76 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

... that 1975–76 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team was ranked in the AP Poll sixteen of seventeen weeks?

5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 07:35, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1973–74 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

... that the 1973–74 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team included Campy Russell who won the Chicago Tribune Silver Basketball as Big Ten Conference MVP and Johnny Orr who won the Big Ten Coach of the Year?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 07:30, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1974–75 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

... that the 1974–75 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team finished the season ranked in the AP Poll, but unranked in the Coaches' Poll?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 07:30, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Refs check out, nice article. Nomader ^(Talk) 15:12, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Frank C. Garland

... that after seeing a map of the U.S. that showed higher cancer rates in Northern states, Frank C. Garland did a study that found that increased Vitamin D from sun exposure can reduce colon cancer risk?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 05:38, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sartaj Aziz

... that Sartaj Aziz was the Finance Minister when Pakistan conducted its 1998 nuclear tests, and the Foreign Minister of Pakistan during the Kargil war with India in 1999?

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 05:02, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of Major League Baseball hitters with four home runs in one game

... that fans threw silver coins onto the field to celebrate Bobby Lowe (pictured) hitting four home runs in a single Major League Baseball game?

5x expanded by Staxringold (talk). Nominated by Staxringold (talk) at 03:50, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article meets DYK standards for length and sourcing and the hook length is fine. The online source from the Sporting News and his obituary in The New York Times both say that fans tossed $160 in coins. At the time, everything other than pennies and nickels were silver, so I don't doubt that there were silver coins included, but the wording "fans threw silver coins" could mean any number of coins. Whatever metal they were made of, $160 worth is a lot of coins and I would suggest wording it as "fans threw $160 in coins", or some variation thereof. Some mention could also be made in the hook that he was the first player to accomplish the feat. Nice article and one that it is absolutely surprising never existed before. Alansohn (talk) 05:53, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The offline source goes to the silver bit. I avoided saying the $ value because without inflation (which starts making this long) it looks odd. The article existed before, this is an expansion nom. How's this for an alt? Staxringold _talk^contribs 12:00, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that fans threw silver coins onto the field to celebrate Bobby Lowe (pictured) hitting four home runs in a single Major League Baseball game, the first player to accomplish the feat?

Arthur Roy Mitchell

... that prior to 1940 the Colorado cowboy artist Arthur Roy Mitchell sketched the cover pages of many western pulp magazines?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:44, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT: ... that in 1959 the cowboy and western artist Arthur Roy Mitchell designed the centennial emblem for the 1859 Colorado gold rush?

Larry Ashmead

... that Larry Ashmead wrote the book Bertha Venation: And Hundreds of Other Funny Names of Real People, featuring such people as Hedda Lettuce, Stan Dupp and Jaime Cardinal Sin (pictured) of the Philippines?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 02:08, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hedda Lettuce is not a good choice here, as it's a made-up name for a drag queen.--Wetman (talk) 18:41, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2010 Pakistan cricket spot-fixing controversy

... that the Pakistani High Commissioner to Britain condemned the Int'l Cricket Council's suspension of the Pakistani cricketers charged with spot-fixing in the 4th Pakistan-England Test?

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 00:57, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I have a separate nomination of spot-fixing waiting to be reviewed if you wanted to turn this into a double nom?

... that the Pakistani High Commissioner to Britain condemned the Int'l Cricket Council's suspension of the three Pakistani cricketers charged with spot-fixing in the 4th Pakistan-England Test? Francium12 23:25, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sure - not a bad idea at all. :) Shiva (Visnu) 14:11, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 4

Gabriele von Lutzau

... that Gabriele von Lutzau, the "Angel of Mogadishu", later became a noted sculptor of "guardian figures" - which she has painted black since September 11, 2001?

Created by Herostratus (talk). Self nom at 05:06, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length OK. However, the 2 facts cited in the hook are not corroborated by any references in the article. Yoninah (talk) 21:36, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your consideration of my entry, Yoninah. Yes, I see that you are correct. I have added some sources to the article, and the fact that she is the "Angel of Mogadishu" is not in doubt, see for example here (Template:Language icon), and the fact the she makes "guardian figures" (Wächterfiguren, also translatable as "sentinels") is not in doubt, see for example her page at the Saatchi Gallery here. However, the statement "...which she has painted black since September 11, 2001" I cannot find a reference for. It is taken verbatim from her article in the [German Wikipedia, but is not sourced there. I have asked on that article's talk page for a source. I may not get one, or not get one for while. If you cannot wait (I don't really know how DYK works), you would have to reject this entry. I still think she's an interesting figure, so how about going with just this:

... that Gabriele von Lutzau, the "Angel of Mogadishu", later became a noted sculptor of "guardian figures"? Herostratus (talk) 01:36, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, she is an interesting personality, which is why you wrote an article about her. A hook, however, should be catchy, intriguing, even quirky to catch the reader's attention and make him/her want to read the whole article. How about this:

ALT2: ... that Gabriele von Lutzau, the "Angel of Mogadishu", sculpts wooden "guardian figures" using chainsaws and flamethrowers? Yoninah (talk) 11:30, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jim Wilkinson (former U.S. government employee)

~~... that Jim Wilkinson, a Republican, did public relations under President George W. Bush, has been called a spinmeister and propagandist, and likes to stay behind the scenes?~~

5x expanded by Shootbamboo (talk). Self nom at 00:36, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1:... that Jim Wilkinson helped sell the idea that Al Gore claimed to have "invented the Internet"?

5x expansion verified. Date, length OK. There's a lot to say about this man, not all of it positive. ALT1 is OK, but what do you think about this:
~~ALT2: ... that Jim Wilkinson, as senior aide to former U.S. Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, was credited with an image-making strategy that elevated Rice to "rock star status"?~~ Yoninah (talk) 21:48, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The rock star status was in one NYT article. The "invented the internet" idea was much more pervasive, so I find ALT1 more interesting. Thanks. -Shootbamboo (talk) 02:35, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I added a link to Internet. ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 11:34, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Denard Robinson

... that Denard "Shoelace" Robinson earlier this month set Michigan's single-game record for total offense at 383 yards and did so in his first game as a starter and with his shoes untied?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 19:45, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can I get an expand credit?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:39, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(alt hook)... that Denard "Shoelace" Robinson earlier this month set Michigan's single-game record for total offense at 383 yards in his first game as a starter and with his shoes untied and then broke his record the following week with 502 yards?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:50, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

alt 2 ... that Denard "Shoelace" Robinson this month broke his own Michigan single-game record for total offense with 502 yards and did so with his shoes untied? Cbl62 (talk) 00:23, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

alt 3 ... that Denard "Shoelace" Robinson this month achieved the two highest single-game total offense totals in Michigan Wolverines history in his first two games as a starter and did so with his shoes untied?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:35, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Minuscule 782 (Gregory-Aland)

... that according to Minuscule 782 Jesus wrote sins of his opponents on the ground?

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 00:22, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand how the article supports the hook. Can you make things clearer? Gaius Cornelius (talk) 12:19, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Majority of manuscripts read this passage: "he bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground". Minuscule 782 (and six other manuscripts) has additional "the sins of every one of them". I hope the current version of the article is clearer. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 08:35, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Much better. Foreign-language hook reference accepted in good faith. Good to go. Gaius Cornelius (talk) 09:44, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1962–63 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

... that the 1962–63 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team set the current Michigan Wolverines men's basketball single-game rebound record?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 08:00, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Too short, only 1365 chars, needs to be 1500 minimum. Gatoclass (talk) 13:13, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1960–61 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

... that John Tidwell of the 1960–61 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team became the first Michigan Wolverines men's basketball player to average 20 points per game for his career?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 08:00, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1958–59 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

... that M. C. Burton, Jr. of the 1958–59 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team became the first player to lead the Big Ten Conference in scoring and rebounding for a season?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 08:00, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article is only just over 1500 chars, but most of it is not about the topic, but about one particular player's records and when they were broken. Gatoclass (talk) 13:04, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Marinens Flyvebaatfabrikk M.F.3

... that the Royal Norwegian Navy Air Service's first tests at dropping torpedoes from aircraft were carried out with Marinens Flyvebaatfabrikk M.F.3 floatplanes?

Created by Manxruler (talk). Self nom at 05:17, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:06, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mairbek Taisumov

... that all of mixed martial artist Mairbek Taisumov's documented victories have come by knockout or submission?

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 11:22, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Has a couple of uncited paragraphs. Gatoclass (talk) 12:44, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

French Royal Army (1652-1830)

... that the French Royal Army (1652-1830) was considered to have been one of the most powerful armies in Europe under Louis XIV?

ALT1:... that from 1652 until 1830 the French royal army fought in eleven major wars?
ALT2:... that French royal troops invaded Spain to support that that nation's monarch during an 1823 uprising?
ALT3:... that French royal troops attacked the Spanish Netherlands when portions of that provice were not ceded to Louis XIV as part of his wife's dowry?
Comment: I personally prefer Alt 3.

Created by DCI2026 (talk). Self nom at 00:30, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As a protest here, because the article has absolutely nothing to say about the actual subject, but is a tour at breakneck speed of wars France was involved in, and the reasons for and results of them. Whether these wars were fought using poison-dart blowpipes or nuclear weapons, by men or by single-breasted women, will not be discovered from this article. Johnbod (talk) 03:38, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I added some sections that explain more about the army itself, and I've also added some pictures. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DCI2026 (talk • contribs) 06:52, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tyonajanegen

... that Tyonajanegen, a woman from the Oneida tribe, fought in the American Revolutionary War?

Created by Gobonobo (talk). Self nom at 23:00, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not yet up to 1500 bytes of prose with the prose tool (only 1285 bytes now). Can it be expanded some? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:22, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. The length should be good now. Gobonobo ^T ^C 05:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is good now. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 10:59, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and hook confirmed. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 19:16, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1965–66 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

... that the 1965–66 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team featured Cazzie Russell who was drafted number one overall following the season?

5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 21:41, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

B. Frank Heintzleman

... that Alaska Territorial Governor B. Frank Heintzleman proposed dividing the territory in two and granting statehood to only one section?

5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 21:35, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5x expansion verified. Date, length OK. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:16, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Carrier Strike Group Three

... that Carrier Strike Group Three was the first U.S. Navy carrier strike group to make an overseas deployment with a Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron (HSM) as part of its embarked air wing (pictured)?

Created by Marcd30319 (talk). Nominated by Marcd30319 (talk) at 21:03, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 11:01, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Parodia tenuicylindrica, Parodia arnostiana, Parodia buiningii

... that, though originally described as members of the genus Notocactus, cacti Parodia tenuicylindrica (pictured), P. buiningii and P. arnostiana are now considered members of Parodia?

Created by J Milburn (talk). Nominated by J Milburn (talk) at 21:00, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note that the first two articles are expansions of one-line stubs, the other is new. J Milburn (talk) 10:45, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dates are fine. Articles are only barely over 1,500 chars each though. Possible to expand further? Otherwise,

hook is fine, offline reference accepted in good faith. Strange Passerby (talk) 12:52, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's why I put the three together- I hoped that may offset the fact they were quite short individually. The first article on the list was created purely to house that wonderful image, which is now a featured picture. I've trawled the web- there's one article (which I can't access) which mentions a couple of the species, but, other than that, nothing reliable- just stuff from enthusiasts. I've also taken a look through some books that cover ornamental cacti species that I have access to, but couldn't find anything on these particular species. Sorry. J Milburn (talk) 17:33, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1964–65 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

... that the 1964–65 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team was the first Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team to defeat a number one ranked team?

5x expanded by User:TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 20:58, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(alt)... that the 1964–65 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team continues to hold the Big Ten Conference single-season rebounding record?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:00, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John Greenhill

... that English portrait painter John Greenhill died, aged only 32, after being found in the gutter following a drinking session at the Vine Tavern in London?

Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 20:42, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We need an inline reference per paragraph, it's really not clear where the information in the article has come from at the moment. Smartse (talk) 10:12, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done The article is transcribed and edited from Dictionary of National Biography - I have added a template just to clarify. All apparently "unsourced" statements are in the DNB reference. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 10:23, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I think we still need inline citations regardless of whether it came from a PD source. Also, I saw a few weeks ago that there was a discussion on whether or not it was acceptable to use PD sources for DYK or not. Tarebia granifera (the article that was discussed) didn't appear on the main page and as that was only a couple of weeks ago, I'm not sure if this should either. Smartse (talk) 17:12, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The DNB template in "references" section indicates that DNB source text has been incorporated (i.e. in this case cut and pasted, then edited) into the final wiki article - virtually every sentence comes originally from DNB. Adding citations for every statement (all bearing the number ^"1") is not necessary in this particular case - in fact it would just add visual clutter. Read the DNB source - you will find that all the statements in the article, including the hook, are absolutely supported by all the sources. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 20:44, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think we need to decide whether or not a copy + paste from a public domain source is suitable for DYK first, before arguing about the need for inline citations. I've started a discussion about it here. Smartse (talk) 16:02, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I object to using copied-and-pasted text for a DYK nomination. It isn't fair to other people writing articles that are actually new, and it isn't fair to whoever may come around later and replace this with an article based on a more current view of the topic but whose article will get disqualified from DYK because this copied-and-pasted version has already appeared there. --Hegvald (talk) 19:01, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Per Wikipedia:WIADYK number 1 point 4 "Try to pick articles that are original to Wikipedia (not inclusions of free data sources)". Sorry, I should have noticed that earlier. Also can you check the link to the DNB - searching the full text in the link given I couldn't find any mention of this person. Smartse (talk) 19:13, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I linked you to the wrong volume - I've now fixed it - see page 79 here.

One of the WIKI guidelines is "assume good faith". :There seems to be some misunderstanding here. The hook has absolutely not been cut and pasted from anywhere - it is original based on facts from the article. The article is also ORIGINAL as it has been extensively rewritten and edited. If you read the WIKI article and compare it to the original DNB text you will find appreciable differences. Also remember that sources are VERY limited for many lesser-known artists of the period, and in my experience DNB (a real encyclopedia compiled by experts - not just an internnet PD resource) is often the best to start with. This is very different from modern biography where there is a huge amount of working material which needs to be compiled from many sources.

Re: "Copy and paste": A copy and paste from DNB is a sensible and efficient way of creating an initial template on which to base the final article. Several hours of work of additional work has then gone into editing, updating, rephrasing and checking with other sources. Images have to be researched and added, and categorised in wikicommons. Internal linking with other WIKI pages is quite a job in itself because the original text often only gives surnames or incomplete aristocratic titles which requires careful checking and reading of other WIKI articles and other sources to make sure that links go to the right page. Also, material has to be sifted out which is out of date - for example paintings may have been moved to other venues, county boundaries change etc etc. There are any number of facts which need to be double-checked from other sources. Other facts not available at the time of DNB (c. 1900) may need to be added to update the text. A lot of rephrasing is needed because of differences in the usage between 1900 and now etc etc. In other words, a lot of work, and, dare I say it, expertise has gone into putting this biography together.

That's it folks.Shadygrove2007 (talk) 21:25, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Samuel Eyles Pierce

... that English minister Samuel Eyles Pierce was accused of antinomianism by his congregation in Truro and that even his wife withdrew her financial support of his ministry?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 20:30, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hook is referenced to ONDB which requires subscription. Dr. Blofeld 20:30, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that English minister Samuel Eyles Pierce was accused of antinomianism? (If you need a short hook, this will do it.) --Rosiestep (talk) 04:18, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hamilton Watch Complex

... that the former factory and headquarters (pictured) of the Hamilton Watch Company, in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, was converted into an apartment and condominium complex?

Created by Niagara (talk). Self nom at 19:47, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There are statements of plans to covert the building into apartments but nothing about if anything was completed.Thelmadatter (talk) 21:06, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It will be difficult to find a source that says when it was completed, however there are various news stories that mention the building was converted, if that will work. Niagara ^{Don't give up the ship} 22:54, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I acually found one! Details on the completion has been added to the article. Niagara ^{Don't give up the ship} 00:08, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1963–64 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

... that the 1963–64 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team earned the University of Michigan its first trip to the NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament final four?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 18:25, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bògòlanfini

... that Bògòlanfini (pictured), a traditional Malian fabric, is dyed with fermented mud?

5x expanded by Sandstein (talk). Nominated by Sandstein (talk) at 17:06, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

. Expansion and hook verified. --Sulmues ^(talk) 12:17, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mithya

... that Indian film Mithya marked the singing debut of Sanchita Bhattyacharya in the Hindi cinema industry?

5x expanded by Mspraveen (talk). Self nom at 16:31, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Michael S. Smith (interior designer)

... that interior designer Michael S. Smith is responsible for the 2010 makeover of the White House Oval Office. --Hegvald (talk) 15:13, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would be grateful if some knowledgeable person could check the DYK-relevant size of the article before it gets too close to its DYK deadline. It is certainly expandable, but I need to know, so I can work on it while I have time available. --Hegvald (talk) 18:36, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I figured out how to use the script to check the size. It is still a bit on the short side. I will get back to the topic tomorrow and expand the article. --Hegvald (talk) 19:50, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
For some reason I have trouble accessing many pages on the web at the moment, but I have managed to get the article just past 1500 characters. I wish there were less (proportionally speaking) about Smith's celebrity clientèle and more about his style of design, but the latter seems more difficult to find (at least with my current problems). --Hegvald (talk) 11:14, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Censorship in Spain

... that as a result of Censorship in Spain same-sex marriage was legalized only 24 years after divorce was legalized?

Created by Tommy2010 (talk). Self nom at 14:15, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I know this doesn't exactly fall under "censorship" as defined, but it is more or less censorship. Comments welcomed. Tom my! 14:18, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's not censorship - it shouldn't even be in the article, never mind the hook. Quite a bit of the article isn't about censorship in fact! Perhaps something about censorship under Franco, added to the article, would make a decent hook. But, article needs quite a lot of work to focus on its supposed topic to justify front page exposure. Rd232 ^talk 14:45, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alright. Tom my! 14:49, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Amantaka Hotel

... that Jude Law and Sienna Miller reportedly stayed at the Amantaka Hotel in Luang Prabang, Laos in August 2010?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 13:30, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is that so?

Yes, that is so. Dr. Blofeld 17:05, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I don't think this is at all appropriate in light of WP:BLP. The very presence of "reportedly" in the hook is a major red flag. The statement is sourced to the Daily Mail—not exactly a paragon of accuracy and impartiality. If the statement stays, the Gulf News reference should be removed, as it is simply the Mail article published in a different paper. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 02:18, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I agree with Fvasconcellos. The article looks great, but the bit about Jude law et al is just tittle-tattle and we should not care about it. Victuallers (talk) 19:18, 9 September 2010 (UTC) Leave it to the Daily Mail.[reply]

Torgeir Vraa

... that in the Norwegian 1906 election second round of voting, Torgeir Vraa was endorsed by the Liberal Party, which he left in 1897 together with Christopher Hornsrud?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 12:28, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Non-English source accepted in good faith. Cunard (talk) 09:39, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

LucyPhone

... that LucyPhone allows consumers to avoid the wait time that occurs when call center operators place them on hold?

Created by Cunard (talk). Nominated by Cunard (talk) at 07:13, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - This hook seems like a bit too much of an advertisement for my liking. Strange Passerby (talk) 08:16, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I can see your viewpoint that it may appear to be an advertisement. However, because I do not see any peacock language in the hook, I think the hook is acceptable. Cunard (talk) 00:48, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jeshua Anderson

... that Jeshua Anderson broke the 22-year old U.S. high school record in the 300 m hurdles at the 2007 CIF State Track and Field Championships?

Created by Bender235 (talk). Self nom at 00:08, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 3

Gail Koff

... that Gail Koff, one of three partners in Jacoby & Meyers, had her prenuptial agreement with attorney Ralph Brill invalidated, with Koff granted 65% of marital assets?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 19:37, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vincenzo Calvesi

... that Italian tenor Vincenzo Calvesi (pictured) created the role of Ferrando in the world premiere of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's Così fan tutte at the Burgtheater in Vienna in 1790?

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by 4meter4 (talk) at 10:00, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ralph Haben

... that former Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives Ralph Haben (pictured) has nearly died four times, surviving a black widow bite, a sinking boat, a plane crash, and a bad case of Hashimoto's thyroiditis?

Created by Scapler (talk). Self nom at 02:27, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - probably should be reworded slightly regarding near death experiences. I think the scientific explanation of NDEs isn't exactly what's being described here. Strange Passerby (talk) 01:11, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have re-worded it and they way it is stated in the article. かんぱい！ Scapler (talk) 01:27, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Onneca Fortúnez

... that the Muslim caliph of Córdoba Abd-ar-Rahman III and the Christian king of Pamplona García Sánchez I, who were at war during the Spanish Reconquista, were both grandsons of Onneca Fortúnez?

Created by BomBom (talk). Self nom at 01:59, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT: ... that in 958 the Muslim caliph of Cordoba Abd-ar-Rahman III hosted his grandmother Onneca Fortúnez's Christian daughter, Toda of Pamplona, so his Jewish doctor could cure her grandson of obesity?

I am proposing this new hook as I find it far more interesting than the first. In light of the current world context, I think it would be great if this hook could appear on the Main Page on September 11 (tomorrow). --BomBom (talk) 05:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Smoking in Indonesia

... that Indonesia is the fifth largest tobacco market in the world, and that in 2008 over 165 billion cigarettes (factory pictured) were sold in Indonesia?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 17:07, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Added an img.-- N.V.V. Char ^Talk. 17:31, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alternate img of Kretek Cigarette (an Indonseian cigarette) smoking.-- N.V.V. Char ^Talk. 17:49, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tirana Circus

... that former World Champion and record holder in weightlifting, Ymer Pampuri, has worked all his life in the Tirana Circus as an acrobat?

Created by Vinie007 (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 03:41, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Etchberger

... that Medal of Honor recipient Richard Etchberger's original nomination for the medal was rejected because the mission he was on was classified?

Created by Jwillbur (talk). Self nom at 06:00, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

His medal is scheduled be presented on September 21, so it might be cool to postpone the hook till then. In which case an alt hook could be used:

Alt 1:... that United States Air Force sergeant Richard Etchberger will posthumously receive the Medal of Honor today? — jwillbur 06:09, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This should include the quote of the MOH citation, which is pretty standard in other MOH articles. Alson "airman" can mean rank or job. I thought it was his rank, but he was a Tech or MSgt. Since he was not on flight duty, we should state his rank at the time of the action or his posthumous rank. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:43, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No citation has been released yet, since the medal will not be formally presented till the 21st. I changed it from airman to sergeant in the hook. — jwillbur 01:22, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

both hooks okay. If we use alt we need to move to holding area. — Rlevse • Talk • 12:46, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Church of St John sub Castro, Lewes, Russian Memorial, Lewes, The Finnish Prisoner

... that Tsar Alexander II of Russia had a monument (pictured) erected in an English churchyard commemorating Finnish prisoners of war whose story inspired a 2007 opera?

Comment: All 3 articles moved from sandbox to mainspace on 3 September.

Created by Struway2 (talk). Self nom at 19:59, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If it helps: the two halves of the hook (Tsar's memorial to prisoners, story inspiring opera) appear separately in each article:

in Church: both in Russian Memorial section, refs #27 and 29;
in Memorial: ref #14 in Memorial section, ref #12 in Legacy section;
in Opera: ref #3 in Background section, ref #1 in Production section.

Same two sources in each case. Hope this makes checking easier, cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:31, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dates, length, and sourcing all look good. --Allen3 ^talk 22:50, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of NME number-one singles from the 1980s

... that Elton John had a number one in the 1980s with "Nikita"?

Created by Rambo's Revenge (talk). Self nom at 11:59, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article is a few hundred characters below the required 1,500. The article would benefit from some more discussion of the artists and songs that made the list, which should be readily available from sources and would easily put the article over the 1,500-character minimum for article prose. Alansohn (talk) 14:34, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that. It is now over the 1,500 limit. I'll see if I can expand it further in future but that will do for now. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 18:20, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

After reading the article in more detail, this appears to be a word-for-word copy from List of NME number-one singles from the 1970s, which in turn was copied from other articles about top hits in the UK. The only exception is the brief final paragraph which makes reference to some of the chart differences in the decade of the 1980s. There is plenty to write about on the subject, such as artists who appeared most often, songs that charted for the longest time, etc., that there can be much more added to the article about its subject. As the historical information is duplicated text and as it adds nothing to the list of top songs in the 1980s, I would recommend that this article not proceed to approval without a substantial reworking. Alansohn (talk) 20:59, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I've now given the prose a complete rewrite. Hopefully that should suffice. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 21:38, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

— Rlevse • Talk • 15:52, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of planetary features with Māori names

... that a hydrocarbon lake on Saturn's moon Titan and an active volcano on Jupiter's moon Io are among the Solar System features named after deities from Māori mythology?

Created by Iridia (talk). Self nom at 06:40, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length OK. However, I find it odd that the first three references that I clicked on are expired links. Yoninah (talk) 22:43, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Looks like planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov is down for site maintenance. TFOWR 22:47, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Thanks TFOWR. If a reviewer could please check back after 8 am Monday MST, the references should work then. Iridia (talk) 08:55, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Marty Huff

... that Michigan linebacker Marty Huff intercepted three passes thrown in one game by Hall of Fame quarterback Mike Phipps and played professional football in the NFL, CFL and WFL?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 06:03, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, hook ref verified. However, I think it's enough to say one catchy fact than to pack a whole summary into the hook. How about:

ALT1: ... that Michigan linebacker Marty Huff intercepted three passes thrown in one game by Hall of Fame quarterback Mike Phipps?

ALT2: ... that Michigan linebacker Marty Huff played professional football in the NFL, CFL and WFL?

ALT3: ... that Michigan linebacker Marty Huff was the son of an All-Indiana football player and one of five football-playing brothers?

ALT4: ... that Michigan linebacker Marty Huff had a father who played football for Indiana University and four brothers who played for the same high school team as he did?

Yoninah (talk) 22:56, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

approve alt1 — Rlevse • Talk • 15:47, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 2

John Phillips (fighter)

... that John Phillips was the first fighter to test positive for banned substances in the Cage Rage promotion?

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 16:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If this is successful, just make sure that it links to John Phillips (fighter), not John Phillips. Cheers. Paralympiakos (talk) 17:02, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready. Dincher (talk) 22:15, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Returned from queues - negative BLP hooks are to be avoided. The hook could be on "white Mike Tyson", but I can't find good ref for that. Materialscientist (talk) 10:55, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm confused really. I understand the need for keeping attacks out, but this isn't one. It isn't necessarily a criticism of him, even though it's something bad that he did. It is a valid, interesting piece of information, I'd say. White Mike Tyson wasn't added by me and I added a tag a while back. Paralympiakos (talk) 11:01, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"to test positive for banned substance" could be perceived overly negatively by many readers. In athletics, it could mean disgrace for life (cf., for example, Marion Jones story). Materialscientist (talk) 11:14, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My concern with this is the potential for removing anything overtly negative in favour of only positive things. It would be like some horrific suck-up article. I'm not for one second advocating attacks, as I've mentioned, but wikipedia should be fully encyclopedic, with information about all relevant aspects of the individual's life, not just the positive. Since it is a significant part of Phillips' life, I'd say it is warranted. However, you ultimately have the final say, so I'll leave it in your hands. I'm just struggling to think of a compelling enough replacement hook. Paralympiakos (talk) 11:18, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not the most enthralling, but I guess we'll go with a replacement of:

"John Phillips was victorious at Cage Rage 28; the last ever Cage Rage event?

I'd obviously prefer the original, but I guess this one passes. Paralympiakos (talk) 11:35, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Per GTL, refs come before external links, and this is yet another case where you seem to be using what is in ext link as a ref but don't cite it, and your fight chart is unreferenced. — Rlevse • Talk • 12:33, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The record box has nothing to do with this one. This is a direct quote from the article:

"Phillips' last Cage Rage appearance was at Cage Rage 28: VIP, the last ever Cage Rage event,[6] where he rematched Jake Bostwick. Midway through the second round, Phillips was able to force his opponent to submit to strikes.[7]" - Note the two sources proving this fight.

You're still making lots of these fighter articles without a major part, the fight record, properly ref'd. It's a problem you need to address whether you realize and admit it or not. Instead of arguing about it so much, all you need to do is turn the sherdog ext link into a refa and drop a ref footnote in the notes column of each fight it covers, simple, easy, quick. You'd have a better article and less problems at DYK, GA, etc. — Rlevse • Talk • 14:04, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Like I say, the relevant parts for the hook are sourced. Don't particularly think there's any need for that attitude either. I've not had problems at GA.Paralympiakos (talk) 14:08, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I was just using GA as an example of how standards get higher. They're higher at DYK than for articles of like size. Your attitude that slack standards are okay is not doing you any good. Here's another example of how to do refs in tables: List_of_NME_number-one_singles_from_the_1980s, then there's the way I linked to on my talk page. — Rlevse • Talk • 15:48, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I got it. Anyway, it's adequately sourced. Paralympiakos (talk) 15:59, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Giuseppe Siboni

... that the Italian operatic tenor Giuseppe Siboni founded the Royal Conservatory of Music in Copenhagen?

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by 4meter4 (talk) at 14:25, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

the ref you used is a bad link. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:27, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ed Shuttlesworth

... that fullback Ed Shuttlesworth became Michigan's all-time leader in rushing attempts while playing for teams that finished 30–1–1 from 1971 to 1973?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 18:26, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am having trouble confirming the record with Ref #1 which is the stats search and Ref# 17 which is more of a note. Also, I think it just maybe be best to say in the hook that they only lost one game during his college career instead of the cumulative numbers.--NortyNort (Holla) 03:57, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nicola Zerola

... that Italian singer Nicola Zerola (pictured) made his professional debut in 1898 as a baritone in Ruggero Leoncavallo's Pagliacci, but later became a tenor, debuting in another role in the same opera in 1903?

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 09:44, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I dont see the part where he performed in the same opera as a tenor.Thelmadatter (talk) 16:19, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lewis Gregory

... that on his List A cricket debut, Lewis Gregory claimed four wickets against the Pakistanis?

Created by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 10:54, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified. Gatoclass (talk) 12:40, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Marvin Bracy

... that in May 2010 Marvin Bracy would have bettered the world youth best in the 100 metres, if it had not been for the wind assistance?

Created by Bender235 (talk). Self nom at 14:02, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The hook fact doesn't seem to have a citation/reference in the article. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 15:16, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. That 10.19 s time is referenced ([13] is annother source). List of world youth bests in athletics is the other source, for the current WYB by Parson. —bender235 (talk) 15:37, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Really that needs citing in the article as well then, not just mentioned here. Also Wikipedia can't cite other Wikipedia articles as sources. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:23, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is cited in the article. Parson's record is 10.23, Bracy ran a wind-aided 10.18. Saying that Bracy would've bettered Parson's record if it wasn't for the wind assistant, is—in my opinion—neither WP:SELF nor WP:OR. —bender235 (talk) 16:54, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

But you still need a reliable non-Wikipedia reference for Parson's time and its status as a world youth best, ideally one of IAAF's record pages or all-time lists. And the article itself is a couple hundred short of 1500 characters. Sideways713 (talk) 10:56, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Special occasion holding area

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

For October 1

Wait for me, Daddy

... that while Pte. Jack Bernard was marching with his regiment, 70 years ago on October 1, 1940, little "Whitey” Bernard was photographed running after his father?

new by Esemono (talk). Self nom at 08:30, 05 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sourced to this newspaperarticle -- Esemono (talk) 05:56, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 - ... that 70 years ago on October 1, 1940 little "Whitey” Bernard was photographed running after his father who was marching to war?

and Canadian picture is OK too. Victuallers (talk) 15:54, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For 31 October, Hallowe'en

The 2010 Halloween collection has started early. Victuallers (talk) 20:03, 25 August 2010 (UTC)Victuallers (talk) 21:19, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bhoot (ghost)

... that in various regions in India, a haunting bhoot can be thwarted using water, steel or iron objects, or the scent of burnt turmeric?

Created by Hunnjazal (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 22:30, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please add page numbers to the two citations in question? If so, I think this hook will be good to go. (As it currently stands, a reader would have to search through the books in question to find the pages which cite the information about water, steel, iron, and turmeric.) - Tim1965 (talk) 14:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

October the 31st (The Fall Guy episode)

... that Cassandra Peterson, AKA Elvira, Mistress of the Dark (pictured), and veteran horror movie actor, John Carradine guest starred on the 1984 Halloween episode of The Fall Guy, October the 31st along with Keith, Robert and David Carradine?

Created by --Ishtar456 (talk) 22:34, 1 September 2010 (UTC))[reply]

.(alt).. ~~that in 1984, The Fall Guy episode October the 31st featured Keith, Robert, David and John Carradine, as well as John's evil twin brother? Victuallers (talk) 16:16, 4 September 2010 (UTC)~~[reply]

I fixed it up a bit. We don't really want to leave out Keith. But that fact (twin brother) is not cited (in a synopsis you aren't supposed to need it, but for DYK you do). In all fairness, Elvira and John were the guest stars and the other Carradines just had cameos. Are you sure we want to leave Elvira out? Isn't she all about Halloween?--Ishtar456 (talk) 02:43, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree lack of source kills it and Elvira is better - maybe replace eveil twin with Elvira? Victuallers (talk) 09:21, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alt 1... that the 1984 Halloween episode of The Fall Guy, October the 31st guest starred Elvira, Mistress of the Dark (pictured), and veteran horror movie actor, John Carradine along with Keith, Robert and David Carradine?

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Alt 2... that Elvira, Mistress of the Dark (pictured) guest starred on the 1984 Halloween episode of The Fall Guy, October the 31st and veteran horror movie actor, John Carradine appeared too, with sons Keith, Robert and David?

Alt 3... that John Carradine haunted Elvira's (pictured) guest appearance on the 1984 Halloween episode of The Fall Guy, October the 31st and fired all three of his actor sons? -my fav.--Ishtar456 (talk) 12:04, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ipswich Witchcraft Trial

... that the Ipswich Witchcraft Trial has been called the "Second Salem Witch Trial", and was the last witch trial held in the United States?

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 23:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"May have been the last witch trial", rather. We don't know what will happen in the future -- people do make ridiculous assertions still, and occasionally judges humor them (witness the case of the woman who got a restraining order against David Letterman so that he would stop psychically harassing her). DS (talk) 13:11, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's true of 99 percent of DYK noms which use the term "largest," "most expensive," "tallest," "record," etc. On the other hand, we can't predict the future, so "may have been" is not accurate, either. It's why I chose "has been called"; that is an accurate statement, although it may not hold true in the future. - Tim1965 (talk) 12:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Got to agree with Tim.. surely the average reader is clever enough to realise that, say, the world's tallest man ......... means the man who when measured to the top of his head when standing with bare feet and without a spine extender is the tallest although there may be other men taller who have not measured them selves or been found and it is possible that in the future other men could grow taller or by using gentic modification it may be possible ... etc etc We must assume that sentient people know that new things happen in the future. rant over Victuallers (talk) 09:55, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I changed "may be" to "was" as this seems more clear to me and is definitely true. Smartse (talk) 09:54, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.--Ishtar456 (talk) 01:18, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Veratrum nigrum

... that it is not true that the Black False Hellebore is a Hellebore, it is true that it is highly toxic and can easily cause death?

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Nominated by Tim1965 (talk) at 18:46, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The hook seems a bit obvious to me - surely the reason it is called a false hellebore is because it isn't a hellebore? Smartse (talk) 20:26, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The point is to create a play on words with the title of the plant. It is not a true Hellbore; it is true it can kill you. When it comes to plants, most people probably don't know what the term "false" means (I didn't). So verifying that "false means false" is not just a play on words, it is informative as well (confirming a person's assumptions). - Tim1965 (talk) 03:38, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nah, I'm with Smartse, this hook is just not working for me. And I don't really see the Halloween connection either, unless anything that could kill you is now eligible for Halloween. I don't think we're going to be short. I suggest this goes back to "regular" DYK, and you come up with another hook? Sorry. PS Tim - "Hellebore" is an English word, not a Latin word like Helleborus, so "hellebore" should not be italicised, in DYK or in the article. Le Deluge (talk) 19:13, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hellebore is the genus, and genus and species are italized. - Tim1965 (talk) 23:14, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No Tim - Helleborus is the genus (like "Bos") whereas Hellebore is an English common name (like "cattle"). Trust me on this... And check out the hellebore article if you don't believe me. <g> Le Deluge (talk) 09:56, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Grammar point: there should either be a "while" after the first "that", or there should be a "but" before "it is true", or the comma before "it is true" should be a semi-colon. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:12, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ferocactus latispinus

... that the Devil's tongue barrel (pictured) is found in Mexico?

Comment: I know, a bit lame but has a cool name...Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:42, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Created by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 14:42, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How about: ALT1 ... that the Devil's tongue barrel (pictured) is covered in 4cm long spines?

It sounds scarier to me. We could maybe make something out of this but saying that it can be killed by Fusarium oxysporum doesn't sound very scary. Another option is to make a stub for Didymium wildpretii using this and then we could have a hook of ALT2 ... that Didymium wildpretii eats the decaying remains of Devil's tongue barrel (pictured)? Smartse (talk) 12:00, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not the easiest material to work with. For hook purposes (eg ALT2) it is probably best called a "barrel of devil's tongues"? A bit of creative Googling came up with PAR 279 of this ref which would allow an example of a site in which it grows in the wild and hence (stretching a bit) :

ALT3... that Jesus had a barrel of Devil's tongues (pictured)?

That same ref has a bunch of saints which could be translated into English, and MZ 1239 leaves the tilde off La Cañada... Alternatively you could use the hardiness data to suggest that :

ALT4... that a barrel of Devil's tongues (pictured) would survive if hell freezes over?

The Fusarium is tricky, you'd end up playing with "mouldy bottoms" or "butt rot". One little thing, the image relies on recurvus being a synonym for latispinus. I don't doubt that it is, but it probably ought to be reffed - and in any case, it's a bit too obvious an image to accompany a hook that we're struggling to get tricksy with... Le Deluge (talk) 14:23, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The book ref lists recurvus as a synonym. The other hooks are more interesting than mine, and yeah I reckon losing the picture will probably help. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:31, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I will propose the following. I don't know if playing with the name of the plant is acceptable to anyone else. But I would hope so, given that the fifth proposed hook does mention the word "barrel". The way I read the plant name, "barrel" is like saying "the John Smith house" or "the Evergreen Pine tree." You don't necessarily need it (well, I'm making that case). - Tim1965 (talk) 13:24, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT5: that the Devil's tongue (pictured) is barrel-shaped, green, and covered in 4-centimetre (1.6 in) long spines? - Tim1965 (talk) 13:24, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So let's recap: ALT1 would pass DYK rules/guidelines. ALT2 would not due to redlinks in the hook. ALT3 would not, because the ref is not in the article as it currently stands. ALT4 is iffy: As a metaphor (hell freezes over = never), it means it will never die (not factually true). As a play on words (hell freezes over = temp below 0C), it's iffy because the plant is hardy only to -4C and can, in fact, die (min temp is 10C). I will not pass judgment on my own suggested hook. So right now, barring changes, we don't have a passing nom except for ALT1. - Tim1965 (talk) 13:24, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've got round to writing Didymium wildpretii so I suggest:

ALT6 ... that a slime mold eats the decaying remains of Devil's tongue barrel (pictured)?

I think we do need to say Devil's tongue barrel rather than Devil's tongue, as your John Smith example demonstrates, these can mean quite different things (it's unfortunate). I could probably expand the slime mold article to DYK length too. Smartse (talk) 22:43, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT6 is approved. Article and hook check out, and offline cite AGF. - Tim1965 (talk) 01:12, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For November 13, Governors Awards

Governors Awards

... that Kevin Brownlow, Jean-Luc Godard, Eli Wallach and Francis Ford Coppola will be honoured at the 2nd Annual Governors Awards?

ALT1 ... that the Academy Honorary Award and the Irving G. Thalberg Memorial Award are presented at the Governors Awards?

Created by Gareth E Kegg (talk). Self nom at 22:31, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Too short, only around 1070 characters of prose. Article is not bolded in hook. Hook fact itself is not mentioned directly in the article (and even then, the list of 2010 recipients does not have a citation on it). Strange Passerby (talk) 04:14, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Refined, changed hook. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 22:37, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am still a bit loathe to pass it. As it stands article still has only about 1550 characters of prose. While it meets the minimum (1500), there is room for further expansion, imo. Your ALT1 hook still has the issue of it not being cited in the article directly: for that hook to be eligible, there preferably should be a citation at the end of this line in the article: "The Academy Honorary Award, Irving G. Thalberg Memorial Award, and the Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Awards are presented at the ceremony." Strange Passerby (talk) 05:22, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For January 1, 2011, Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation

ALT1 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation represents the courage, valour, strength, cleanliness, truth, high moral standards and high level of motivation expected of FBI agents?

ALT2 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation was first used on January 1, 1941 and represents the values, standards and history of the FBI and its agents?

Expanded and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This nomination is a bit of a special case. I originally nominated Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on August 3 following a 5x expansion (see discussion above under #Articles created/expanded on August 3). Everyone accepted that it met the DYK criteria but the nomination was derailed by a political dispute over timing. I've put forward a compromise at User talk:Jimbo Wales#Compromise proposal, which involves passing this DYK now but scheduling its appearance on January 1, 2011, which is 60 years to the day since the seal was first used. This proposal has been generally welcomed so I'm putting it forward here for formal consideration. I'm aware that the timeframe is somewhat longer than would be usual for scheduled DYKs, but in the circumstances I think a some flexibility would be justified. I've put forward two possible hooks: the original one as proposed earlier, and a new alternative tying the DYK in more directly with the date. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification: ~~Are we nominating this (with whichever hook) sans image as you initially suggested on Jimbo's talk page?~~
--K10wnsta (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Appended: I see that you removed the image from inclusion in the original nomination, so I'll assume this post-dated nomination would not include the image either. However, this necessitates further clarification:

Are we excluding the image from this DYK solely because of the recent interaction with the FBI?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In effect yes, but in my view it's a necessary evil if we're to reach a satisfactory compromise on this issue. -- ChrisO (talk) 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- Tentative Even if the motivation behind qualifying this article for DYK was questionable, I think you already achieved not just a satisfactory compromise, but a completely valid and justifiable use for it. In fact, it's use is so valid, refusing to use the image for no other reason than the recent hoobajoo with the FBI is blatantly (chilled) censorship...and I just can't get behind that. If we're going to censor it, we need to go whole hog or don't go at all.
Could we put it up for 'On This Day' to avoid reasoning for exclusion of the image?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No opinion on whether to feature on the future date; however, it would be better if this hook didn't remain on the suggestions page for the intervening months, as it is bound to attract further discussion and the page is unwieldy enough as it is. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Espresso's suggestion may be useful for more than just making this page leaner. A delay in nomination would lend to better perspective for those establishing consensus. In other words, removing it from discussion for a couple months would also put some time between recent events and the article (and hopefully image) being contemplated for a main page feature (unless such a delay would disqualify it from use in DYK section).
--K10wnsta (talk) 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment This hook should not "disappear" for a few months. It is far better to leave it here to enable a wide input from editors on the issue. I think this is a good compromise that involves common sense, the proposal and special treatment of the timescale fitting nicely under WP:IAR. Mjroots (talk) 13:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support ALT2 for use on 1 January, 2011. EdChem (talk) 10:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest scrapping this troublesome controversial DYK, the user that instigated the issue has also since retired, suggest retiring this idea as well. Off2riorob (talk) 13:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Would you please stop with your blatant pushing of the issue? Putting this off until January removes all controversy related to it. Silverseren^C 13:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your comment is just a simple personal attack, I have bigger fish to relentlessly pursue than this worthless disruptive DYK. Off2riorob (talk) 14:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing of what I said was or is a personal attack. I know you greatly dislike ChrisO and myself, but could you please not try and push an already outdated issue? Silverseren^C 14:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I support ALT2 for the 1 January date. The anniversary makes this a very good choice for that day. -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I do not support 1 January 2011. The DYK section is for new articles. There are exceptions like April Fools and Halloween; I do not see the point of making every day of the year a possible exception. Geschichte (talk) 20:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Anniversary or not, a four-month wait at DYK is an overkill. The point of DYK is to present new or newly expanded articles, not to present "on this day". By then this article will be more than four months old. If this line of though is going to be followed, DYK is going to end up in a mess. The length of this entry is plain evidence for why keeping things around for almost five months is not a good idea. Arsenikk ^(talk) 13:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

per IAR. I would count this as a valid use of IAR. This could have gone up for today. The only reason it isn't going up is for political reasons. I disagree with Jimbo and others on that matter and think we should run it now, but there is no need to reject it entirely on that basis. NW (Talk) 03:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support' as this would have been promoted in the usual time window if not for the decision to shelve it until the political heat was off. To kill it now because a delay was agreed to would be an egregious abuse of trust. - Dravecky (talk) 09:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]