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Sophie Anderson (top) and Rebecca More
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    • contain more than 2,000 characters (around 2 kilobytes) in main body text (ignoring infoboxes, categories, references, lists, and tables). This is a mandatory minimum; in practice, articles longer than 2,000 characters may still be rejected as too short, at the discretion of the selecting administrators.
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    • formatted as [[Image:image name |right|100x100px| Description]] and placed directly above the suggested fact.
  • Proposed lists should have two characteristics to be considered for DYK: (i) be a compilation of entries that are unlikely to have ever been compiled anywhere else (e.g. List of architectural vaults), and (ii) have 2,000+ character non-stub text that brings out interesting, relational, and referenced facts from the compiled list that may not otherwise be obvious but for the compilation.
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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on January 16

File:Boscobel entrance road

Articles created/expanded on January 15

  • The present hook is kind of vague and while I realize after reading the article that much is not concretely known about this guy, maybe you should try to come up with a hook that is more absolute and/or definitive (I can't think of any). Just a suggestion. Thingg (talk) 18:23, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 14

Articles created/expanded on January 13

Castle Lake
  • I couldn't find the indication that references must be in English in the DYK rules page. Is this something particular of the English Wiki? If I would write this article in, say, Russian, would I have to find references in Russian? and Chinese? Serbo-Croatian? Anyway I'll try to find something in English to add. Fsouza (talk) 18:58, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I apologize for not making myself clear. The article is excellently written, but I thought it might be a good idea to find some English references, if possible, for those readers who, like myself, can't read Portugese very well or at all. Again, my apologies; it was only a suggestion. Thingg (talk) 21:09, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hurricane Kenneth
Hurricane Kenneth
Sankey Valley Park May 2007
Sankey Valley Park May 2007
Tom Paddock
Tom Paddock

Articles created/expanded on January 12

The problem is that your source doesn't actually say Athens, Moscow and Turin have been ruled out, only that they should be, and it's only an unofficial source anyhow.
I would suggest: ...that Singapore is considered a favourite for the 2010 Youth Olympic Games as Athens, Moscow and Turin have previously hosted Olympic events and Bangkok's bid is uncertain? Gatoclass (talk) 07:13, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 11

Unique Forms of Continuity in Space
Unique Forms of Continuity in Space


Weedy scorpionfish, minimal appendages lavender
Weedy scorpionfish, minimal appendages lavender
Weedy scorpionfish, weedy appendages red
Weedy scorpionfish, weedy appendages red
Mayor Miles B. Kitts
Mayor Miles B. Kitts
  • Alternative hook and pic


Expired noms

Articles created/expanded on January 10

...that Karachi’s Lyari River is the major contributor to the annual discharge of 200 million gallons of sewage and Industrial waste into the Arabian Sea? --IslesCapeTalk 13:09, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Taken from the ref source, but I have also converted into SI units. --IslesCapeTalk 10:40, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Can I get an administrator's confirmation that this hook qualifies? Thanks, Skomorokh incite 16:18, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Do you perhaps mean a different administrator, because I am an administrator. I don't want to belabor this point but articles are only eligible if they are substantially new, or expanded a great deal, within the past 5 days. This material was in mainspace as near as I can tell, back in October, and then deleted. I agree you moved it back to mainspace recently, and apologise for missing that part. Given that it was in mainspace only briefly the first time, perhaps waiving the technicality of it being there before would be fairest. It looks like the AfD is also from about that time rather than recently, so I withdraw my objections on those grounds. However the article has been around since at least 2003 in one form or another. I just am not sure it's really "new" material. This is a matter for the person selecting hooks to decide about, I've made the info available, and they can make the call as they see fit. ++Lar: t/c 02:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, I wasn't sure about the technicalities of the matter. Thanks for your diligence, I withdraw the nomination. Regards, Skomorokh incite 03:42, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Musée Matisse in Le Cateau
Musée Matisse in Le Cateau

*...that in a U.S. Court, a man was convicted of attempted murder for shooting at an empty bed? (self nom) Mattisse —Preceding comment was added at 21:24, 10 January 2008 (UTC) **This seems like it needs some more work. Is "Mitchell" a first or last name? Are any more circumstances of the attempted murder known (like why did he want to kill the person)? Which state is the one in the case title? Which appellate court upheld the initial ruling? In addition, I found a number of typos and the last sentence is incomplete: "Thirty-seven states have explicitly eliminated impossibility as a defense to a charge of attemp [sic]". howcheng {chat} 23:48, 10 January 2008 (UTC) :::There is no more information on the case that I can find (and I looked). I only found one source that even mentions that his name is Mitchell - one of my books on Criminal Law. The article is cited so many times legally because of the distinction between "mistakes of law" and "mistakes of fact". That is why it is referenced in every book on criminal law. I will fix all typos. (I just wrote the article today and have not perfected it.) I can remove the article if you want, until the typos are fixed. Perhaps I did not make the distinction between "mistakes of law" and "mistakes of fact" clearly. If I had made the distinction well, then it would be obvious that the relevant facts of the case are there. Why he wanted to kill the intended victim is immaterial to the reason the case is cited so much. More facts of the case are not easy to find as they are irrelevant to the reason the case is important. Mattisse 00:25, 11 January 2008 (UTC) [reply]

Actually, I can just remove the name Mitchell, as many case descriptions don't give names. Would that be better? Mattisse 01:39, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

:::::Mitchell seems relevant to the title of the article, which I found fascinating. Are mistakes of fact and mistakes of law covered elsewhere? Links might be good if they are. I hope you can get this sorted without too much trouble, it's a great article. ++Lar: t/c 21:14, 11 January 2008 (UTC) ::::::Maybe I should change the name of the article. People don't understand how case law is built up by these cases, one by one, over time, and therefore why the details are only relevant in so far as the facts contributed to the body of case law. The closest I could find on wikipedia that describes this is Attempted murder and Attempt which are linked in the article. What do you think? Mattisse 23:42, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 9

Comment. There are no in-text citations in this article. Also needs to wikified. Manxruler (talk) 22:51, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, there are no inline citations because it was translated from the Spanish article. Are these required for DYK? As well, could specify on the talk page what needs to be "wikified"? Murderbike (talk) 02:31, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, They're definitely preferred for DYKs, cause they make fact-checking possible. I suppose that the Spanish article had citations? There's no problem to use Spanish citations when English ones aren't avaiable. I'll go to the talk page and suggest some improvements, one that would be really good would be an Infobox. Manxruler (talk) 02:52, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, the Spanish version had no cites, and it's pretty hard to find good ones, as the name was used for another, probably more well known union earlier in the century, and I'm having a hard time filtering out all the mentions of that one. I've cited a couple of things to the unions website, but will keep searching for something better. Murderbike (talk) 02:59, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment That's good. The most important citation is one for the exact fact that the hook is based on. For an example of a union article that has the right set-up see International Trade Union Confederation. There's a Infobox there you can copy and use for your article, and a good example of citations used in an article. Manxruler (talk) 03:05, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I think you've done a fine job with this article. One question, though, is the first citation in the article a reference for your hook? If it is, then all's great. Manxruler (talk) 06:10, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, actually, it only refs the date of foundation, I was trying to find a really good ref for the "split from" statement, but I think I'm gonna have to settle for something a little less. And to clarify, you suggested "wikification" and then only suggested and infobox. But infoboxes are not required for MOS, so doesn't really fall under the term "wikification". So, unless you meant something else, the term isn't really relevant to this article. Murderbike (talk) 20:42, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Cited. Murderbike (talk) 01:44, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Most of the article remains unreferenced. The Spanish Wikipedia is not a reliable source.--Carabinieri (talk) 19:06, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Of course he means any Wikipedia (not just Spanish). Art LaPella (talk) 01:03, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 8

Articles created/expanded on January 7


  • This article currently isn't long enough for Did You Know. See #Suggestions for details. Also, another candidate for the longest siege in history is described here as follows (click "Search in this book"): "The Moors often beseiged Ceuta. one such investment beginning in 1674 lasting 26 years." Art LaPella (talk) 02:26, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That is correct, but both are translations (the Grundtvig one is interwiki translation of the week or something). In-line citations are not a requirement for DYK, judging from observation. athinaios | Talk 11:04, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Manxruler (talkcontribs) 00:00, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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