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The result was delete. WP:V is policy and this content is completely unsourced. Besides, the original creator wrote a new and apparently better article, so I suppose nobody is sorry to wave this stub goodbye? Any redirect is an editorial decision. Sandstein 19:14, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Perspective (cognitive)

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Fails WP:NOTDIC. Merges a number of definitions together: context, reference, value system, and to a lesser extent: paradigm, point of view, reality tunnel, umwelt, world view. Previously deprodded Curb Chain (talk) 18:51, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

speedy close Re-nominated by an abusive user (prev nominator was his sock: User:Algircal). While it is unreferenced, it is an article about an important concept, not about a word, i.e., NOTDIC is irrelevant. The text does not "merge" any definitions together: it defines one concept using references to other concepts. And "to the lesser extent" accusation holds no water: the text clearly says they are different. Of course, the article sucks per wikipedia standards (an unreferenced blurb), but this has never been a reason for deletion. Staszek Lem (talk) 19:49, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - To be frank, the article currently appears to be a mishmash of concepts without coherency. This is the sort of postmodern word salad that Orwell railed against in Politics and the English Language, and I agree with him. Beyond that, we have no sources included here now, and I don't see how you can even add one for something so haphazard in the first place. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:52, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I cannot find anything to back up what that stub says anywhere. We do have an article called World_view that seems to be about something similar and is written to a much higher standard. I think this should be deleted for seemingly having some type of POV even though I'm not sure what it is (cynicism maybe) and being nearly incoherent but it could be redirected.--Savonneux (talk) 14:28, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- It appears to correspond to the following meaning of the word: "perspective: the state of one's ideas, the facts known to one, etc., in having a meaningful interrelationship". Staszek Lem (talk) 20:40, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete:~~Keep~~ A search on "cognitive perspective" brings up the concept within the field of cognitive psychology. See as examples [1], [2], [3]. There is some argument to be made that the stub could be expanded into cognitive psychology, but if so then a redirect should remain. Montanabw^(talk) 16:37, 25 August 2015 (UTC) Follow up: Per discussion below, moved my text to new article, and as this one does appear to be gibberish and unclear what, if anything it is discussing other than cognitive perspective, I guess we probably do need to delete. Montanabw^(talk) 21:11, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry to revert, but it seems that your text is about something different: cognitive perspective - i.e, a point of view onto something based on the theory of cognition. I.e., yours is a particular kind of perspective, Whereas the current "gibberish" is an attempt to define a very generic philosophical concept of "perspective". Staszek Lem (talk) 20:26, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - PS. I was trying to look into the history where this mess originated from. The creator says he copied it from a disambig page. Since then the source page appears to be renamed a couple times and eventually [Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Perspective (viewpoint)|deleted]. So I guess maybe it made some sense back then, in 2004. Staszek Lem (talk) 20:36, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    - - So why is it called "cognitive"? I guess if you'd prefer, I can copy my changes to a new article. But I'd encourage a redirect after... Montanabw ^(talk) 21:04, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
        It is not called "cognitive" It is a disambig qualifier, just like in Line (text file) does not mean that line is a kind of text file; it means "line" in the topics related to text files. Staszek Lem (talk) 21:07, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
        OK< I can live with that. Created new article and changed !vote. Montanabw ^(talk) 21:11, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
        
        P.S. Funny that you mentioned a redirect. After quickly looking into a couple of dictionaries, I was about to suggest to redirect tis page to point of view, only to find that it already redirects here :-) I guess we have a small "walled garden" :-) Staszek Lem (talk) 21:10, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Unreferenced since 2004. If someone adds just two in-depth references to this topic from reliable sources, I'll review this opinion, so please do ping me if that happens. --Dweller (talk) 21:20, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hang on! I find it fairly clear that, as User:Staszek Lem has said, the article was created (back in 2004) by User:Altenmann to handle a generic philosophical/psychological meaning of perspective - fairly close in meaning to "point of view" as used in "neutral point of view". The article is classified by Wikiproject Philosophy as high-importance, and has over a hundred inward links from other articles (a number of them, admittedly, piped). Unfortunately, despite this, the article has scarcely changed since 2004, even though I suspect that User:Altenmann was creating it as a placeholder to be improved later by others. In practice, though, I suspect that philosophers tend to use the word "perspective" in passing but, in detailed discussion, prefer more precise synonyms, several of which are given in the article. Under the circumstances, straight deletion of the article would probably create at least as many problems as it solves - there is actually a fairly high chance that a Wikipedia reader currently arriving at it through one of the inward links, while not finding the article itself much use, then finds that one or other of the outward links is what they actually want. Redirection might work if a suitable target can be found (World view looks possible but far from ideal). A WP:HEYMANN rewrite would be best, but I don't think I could do it so I am not expecting it of others. PWilkinson (talk) 18:14, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- (Got pinged here. Never kept it on my watchlist, so didn't see the discussion._ PWilkinson is right: Back in todler days of wikipedia I created placeholders for important philosophical concepts: perspective and POV. I expected someone to fill it in. I find it ridiculous that wikipedians use the terms POV/NPOV on a daily basis, yet the article is missing, and even more ridiculous claim of this AfD that there is no such thing. As I see the text of the article almost untouched. At the same time I am baffled that some think it is gibberish. When I saw this text, it made perfect sense to me (and still does), so I cut and pasted it unchanged. (and I claim no authorship credits). World view is close, but different concept. I vaguely remember I was looking for redirect targets, but I found none good. That said, my vote is "keep" because I made a quick google search and found several deeply philosophical texts treating specifically these concepts (i.e., not just mention them in passing). Of course all this philosophy sounds babble to me (philosophers have their own worldview and slang, even worse than lawyers :-), but I will try to rescue the article tomorrow, if no one beats me to that; I am used to writing articles on topics nobody cares (and I never heard before myself), such as 'animal latrine', 'Crimean journey of Catherine the Great', 'rubber soldiers', 'Hymylä', or 'Jewish nose' (well, the last one I sort of always heard around :-) So I guess this one will be an easy job as well. - üser:Altenmann >t 03:53, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment: Well, if you "cut and pasted it unchanged" then we have a WP:COPYVIO problem too. In short, this needs a rewrite and some footnotes to have any hope of staying here. And it does need a plain language rewrite before going into the philosophical depths. Montanabw^(talk) 05:15, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    - Why the heck it is copyvio? The attribution is clearly indicated in edit summary. As for "plain language", which part of the phrase "Perspective in theory of cognition is the choice of a context or a reference (or the result of this choice) from which to sense, categorize, measure or codify experience" you don't understand? - üser:Altenmann >t 17:09, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to "Point of view (philosophy)". As I promised, here you have a brand fresh new off-the-shelf undercooked but WP:RS-compliant ready to go article. Feel free to expand and destroy. (4 hours of my life. what a waste.) - üser:Altenmann >t 08:52, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Oh, almost forgot: <ping-ping-ping> User:Montanabw, User:PWilkinson, User:Staszek Lem, User:Dweller, User:Savonneux. - üser:Altenmann >t 09:03, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - P.P.S. Does anybody care to nominate it for DYK. Suggested hook: "Did you know that you have a point of view regardless whether you know it or not?" :-) - üser:Altenmann >t 09:10, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah that's good. I only commented though, didn't vote :P --Savonneux (talk) 09:30, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Keep (non-admin closure) Kraxler (talk) 19:28, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Alex De Rakoff

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Delete: as non-notable writer (also non-notable actor). Quis separabit? 18:19, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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keep, as marginally notable film and videogame director. Staszek Lem (talk) 20:07, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. It looks like two of his films received enough coverage for them to warrant an article and the games he's directed are pretty notable, enough to where he'd pass notability guidelines on that aspect. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 03:32, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 06:56, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bliss Industries

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Article for a non-notable local company from January 2006 and my searches found nothing better than passing mentions. This could have been speedied or PROD'd but I wanted comments. SwisterTwister talk 18:15, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

delete not a shred of notability. mAy be it manufactures important things, but so do zillions of factories worldwide. Staszek Lem (talk) 20:02, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete per WP:CSD#A7. QVVERTYVS (hm?) 15:00, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Delete as above. Non-notable feed mill...New Media Theorist (talk) 19:24, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete. Hoax. NeilN ^{talk to me} 18:23, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Larger Girl

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I could find no evidence that this series exists at all. WP:CRYSTAL may alternatively apply Fiachra10003 (talk) 17:56, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete as blatant hoax. Liev "Schrieber," Marion Cotillard and Aaron Paul are all starring in a "silent" television series with no lines? —Мандичка^YO 😜 18:05, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete as HOAX. Good catch. Quis separabit? 18:22, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:43, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Empire of Japan national football team

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As tagged, I found nothing at all (apart from mirrors) to confirm it existed and it has not been significantly changed since existing in March 2011 (and the author has made no other edits aside from a few changes at other football articles). I'm inviting taggers @Calamondin12, Smileguy91, Shirt58, and Jetstreamer: and I'm also letting GiantSnowman who always comments at football AfDs. SwisterTwister talk 17:46, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - if sources can be found then the information should be added to Japan national football team#History, no need for a separate article. Giant Snowman 17:54, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Japan national football team. Clearly this does not merit a standalone article, but it seems a plausible search term. Sir Sputnik (talk) 17:55, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This article appears to be a hoax. A few notes:
- The RSSSF includes an archive [4] of Japan's international results, which nowhere mentions these matches.
- The Japan Football Association, according to its own website,[5] did not exist until 1921.
- Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, and New Granada (Colombia) did not exist in those forms during the years specified. Similarly, Ukraine was not an independent nation in 1917.
- Records for the German Football Association (DFB) list only two matches against Japan, in 2004 and 2006 [6]. The DFB's archive includes every match played by Germany during its imperial, Nazi and divided periods, so clearly Germany did not meet Japan in 1911 or 1913.
- RSSSF's Brazilian archive [7] mentions only three opponents for Brazil in 1916: Argentina, Chile and Uruguay. The list never mentions any 1916 match against Japan.
- RSSSF records for the Catalan [8] and Basque [9] regional selections do not include matches against Japan from this time period.

Finally, the results simply do not seem plausible (a 28-0 Japanese victory over Brazil in any year?). The evidence in this case appears substantial. Calamondin12 (talk) 20:02, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict)@SwisterTwister: Thanks for pinging us.
Delete No sources have ben provided for just a collection of doubtful match results. This is not encyclopedic, as no context has been provided. I stay firm in my position of deleting the article.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 20:06, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
delete: created and maintained of multiple socks of a hoaxer who was also messing with other articles. Needs detailed investigation and removal of damage. Staszek Lem (talk) 20:12, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - clearly fiction. Doesn't even qualify as a hoax, given the farcical match-ups with nations that didn't exist until years later, or hadn't existed for decades. Nfitz (talk) 01:56, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - patent nonsense, as evidenced by content such as "Catalonia has a strong rivalry with the Empire of Japan" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:39, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I declined the speedy deletion of this article. The rationale I gave was that "there is sufficient context to identify the subject of the article", which I thought was good enough at the time. I don't think that was a bad decision on my part: there was an Empire of Japan, and it is plausible that there was a football team from that part of the history of Japan that played international football against other national football teams. But that assertion lacks anything in the way of on-line or off-line find-able reliable sources. From what I can see, this article fails WP:VER and should be deleted, but no prejudice to be re-created with reliable sources.--Shirt58 (talk) 12:34, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I totally agree with the users suggesting that this is a hoax. Spiderone 20:58, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Note - This may start classifying as snow delete. SwisterTwister talk 21:23, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as a clear hoax (the Soviet Union did not exist in 1913). Someone with knowledge of the subject should go over this user's edits. Some, such as the ones on the Japanese national football team on past results, are still standing.Michitaro (talk) 00:14, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:42, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Christos Gavrielides

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested by an IP without providing a reason. Sir Sputnik (talk) 17:33, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Fails WP:NFOOTY as has not played senior international football nor played in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Fenix down (talk) 17:48, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 17:51, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - can recreate if and when he plays professionally Spiderone 08:26, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:42, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Etuwe Bright Junior

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Contested PROD. Concern Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested without a reason being provided. Sir Sputnik (talk) 17:30, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Fails WP:NFOOTY as has not played senior international football nor played in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Though a number of sources are provided, these are either routine or primary sources ineligible for GNG support. Fenix down (talk) 17:47, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 17:51, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - has not made a professional appearance Spiderone 21:20, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Mkdw ^talk 03:06, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hamish Jenkinson

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Not notable. Vanity page used for self promotion elsewhere on internet (subject's Twitter bio). nothing encyclopaedic, just a lot of name dropping (much worse before I tidied up in May) Rayman60 (talk) 17:12, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete for now as my searches found nothing explicitly better. SwisterTwister talk 19:57, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - this is a young non-profit administrator, very ordinary. Unless something comes up in the media that discusses his relationship with his mentor, I see nothing notable about him. Bearian (talk) 03:26, 12 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete per WP:SNOW. No hits, seems to be a very obvious hoax given the evidence presented here, no reason to drag this out longer than necessary. Given that this appears to be one of several hoax articles or additions by the same user, I've blocked them as WP:NOTHERE/vandalism. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 03:38, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Victorious 4.0: Just a Little More Music from the Hit TV Show

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PROD deleted. Fairly sure this is a hoax. Nothing found with web searches that shows this album exists. Image is from a DeviantArt site here and labeled as a fan create image. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:01, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and as the PROD endorser, I found nothing to confirm this particular album. SwisterTwister talk 17:27, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete YouTube-hosted fanmix; even with all Nick has done wrong lately they wouldn't release a soundtrack for a defunct TV show unless they wanted to be the fan reaction to be uncontrolled rage. Nate • (chatter) 02:53, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Result was Keep - nomination withdrawn by nominator. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:56, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Norman Hobson

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Doesn't appear to meet either WP:GNG or WP:NFOOTY (only 3rd tier). Onel5969 ^{TT me} 16:41, 24 August 2015 (UTC) Withdrawn by nominator[reply]

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Keep. The football/soccer-specific notability guideline WP:NFOOTY says

"Players who have played, and managers who have managed in a fully professional league, will generally be regarded as notable. See a list of fully professional leagues kept by WikiProject Football."

If we look at that page, we see that the top four levels of English football are fully professional: it would perhaps be helpful if the list included previous as well as curent names, for clarity. This player has more than 200 appearances in fully professional leagues, so passes WP:NFOOTY quite comfortably. Incidentally, I'm surprised this article was AfD'd within 10 minutes of its creation: a bit trigger-happy...? cheers, Struway2 (talk) 07:28, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. A minimal amount of research would have shown up his 212 league appearances - Google is your friend!--Egghead06 (talk) 08:16, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - over 200 apperances in the Football League confirmed by Neil Brown. Giant Snowman 09:00, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Subject passes WP:NFOOTBALL. Mattythewhite (talk) 15:44, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to IGN. (non-admin closure) sovereign°sentinel (contribs) 08:57, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jim Vejvoda

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A film critic. The article was speedily deleted for lack of asserted notability. A discussion about this at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2015 August 8 did not reach consensus, so this AfD is to determine the subject's actual notability. This is a procedural nomination, I'm neutral. Sandstein 07:54, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete If this was speedy deleted earlier, I suggest a delete and salt. Anyways, there is not enough coverage of this person in 3rd party sources. Just mentioning his name isn't notable; and even then there isn't much of that going on. The Undead Never Die (talk) 11:26, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep He's a film critic at a notable website, IGN, and he's not just a film critic there, mind you, he's also the Executive Editor of IGN's Movie Division. So, he holds a pretty significant job at IGN, not just that of a mere film critic. Which is why he is notable enough for his own article. SuperCarnivore591 (talk) 12:09, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I ~~don't~~ think salt isn't really appropriate as the speedy deletion (by me) was reversed for a DRV discussion that led to the article arriving here. Had the author given me time to reply to his post, I would have happily userfied it or moved it to Draft space for improvement. As Undead warrior says, there doesn't seem to be much coverage outside IGN and places Vejvoda's written at. I'd like to see some in depth coverage in something reliable, but in the 159 Google hits I didn't see anything. Being 'Executive Editor' can mean head of a large department, or a one man band operation. There isn't much in the article to give us a clue. I looked at the IGN article, and can't see a 'movies' channel (apart from "IGN Movies Middle East") mentioned there. There is still time to add to the article. Many articles have been improved while at AfD. Peridon (talk) 13:37, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've just spotted an odd double negative at the start of my post above which I've now struck. Salt is not appropriate. Peridon (talk) 18:24, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete for the total lack of sources independent of both the article subject and his employer. (The directory listing at muckrack.com shouldn't need to be mentioned, since, well, it's a directory listing. But here I am, mentioning it anyway.) "[Person] holds a pretty significant job" may be enough to invalidate a speedy deletion, but is in no manner a valid argument at AFD absent sourcing. —Cryptic 00:42, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per lack of significant coverage by independent reliable sources to sustain a BLP article. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 11:43, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per my Comment above. No improvement has been made. Peridon (talk) 10:40, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep.~~ This is not a policy violation, and being unimproved or being a stubby is not a fault (sorry Peridon) nor a reason to delete. I contend that in being extremely prolific[10][11] and widely cited,[12][13][14][15][16][17] he can be seen as meeting the subject-specific guideline WP:JOURNALIST#1 even if weak on WP:GNG. I note that guideline instructs in many SNGs that determining notability is not a contest to see who is most "popular" in the media, and even our basic and underlying WP:N instructs that even though such may enhance the acceptability of a subject, "determining notability does not necessarily depend on things such as fame, importance, or popularity". Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 07:19, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Struck. My reasoning is below. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 01:29, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete for

The article as it stands still does not meet the GNG after being under threat of deletion during the DRV and the AfD.
The article as it stands, still does not meet BLP guidelines as the references presented are 3 links to IGN (his employer or his own writings), and a newswriter version of Linked-In (which falls under the WP:SPS failure conditions).
The argument that "Executive Editor of Movies Division" does not hold weight, nor does being a film critic. How many executive editors are for the movie divison? How many divisons? Furthermore does being an executive editor of the movie division on a site that focuses primarily on Video Games confer a level of notability? Does reviewing a single film qualify you to be a film critic?
The "notable event" of compiling a list of top 10 movies for a website property is not not notable.
Co-hosting a podcast talking about film news does not confer notability. It can support a marginal claim of notability, but it cannot stand on it's own for a notability claim.

In short, since the speedy deletion was overturned on technical grounds (which I disagree with) no substantial improvement has developed with respect to this submission which indicates in my mind that this BLP is still not notable and therefore should be deleted. Hasteur (talk) 14:32, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I contend that MichaelQSchmidt's "citing" is only in passing and rises, at best, to cherry picked quotes that a journalist chose to fulfill their narrative pre-conceptions for the stories they are mentioned in. Hasteur (talk) 14:34, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

MichaelQSchmidt makes no claims that WP:GNG is met (LOL), and Hasteur may "contend" whatever he wishes, but

Guideline specifically tells us that while nice, the GNG is not the sole determinant of notability.
Showing that a person is widely cited and has multiple reviews to meet WP:JOURNALIST is not "cherry-picking", specially as it would make no sense to pick reviews by someone else or someone else's expertise being cited. A film reviewer is expected to share their opinions. How far and wide is just how WP:JOURNALIST can be seen as met even with the GNG being very weak.
Policy WP:BLP instructs on neutral point of view, verifiability and no original research... not notability. That'd be WP:BIO and its various SNGs.
And while I do contend WP:JOURNALIST is just met through the man's works, even under WP:ENTERTAINER co-hosting a popular podcast or web series can be a sign of notability,[18] but that is not the contention.

So and again, as apparently not understood, I make no assertion that the the GNG is met, only that we have a guideline supported assertion of notability in its lack. Even with the article being stubby, it is within policy. This clarified and with its content being so brief, I would not be opposed to its 69-sourced-words being merged and redirected to IGN to better serve our readers, as we're here for them, not ourselves. Thanks. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 06:34, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

So glad that you know how misrepresent policy. For notability it's either GNG or a SNG. Your claim that he passes JOURNALIST by having being cited a few times does not hold water. Think about all the movie reviewing sites, think about all the critics that write movie reviews, think about all the movies, then think about the passing mentions that you put forward to justify inclusion. A movie critic that is widely syndicated across multiple newspapers, or one that writes for a major newspaper outlet or media market, one that is widely known as a film critic (Robert Ebert for example) can be mentioned in passing and it's clear that they are notable. While I aplaud your attempt to twist policy about what a BLP must contain, you seem to have missed the very first sentence of WP:V In Wikipedia, verifiability means that anyone using the encyclopedia can check that the information comes from a reliable source. And finally popularity is not a measure of notability, also taking into account that the claim of podcast notability depends on his film critic notability which has already been proven to be lacking. Hasteur (talk) 12:20, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What I do know and I do not misrepresent is that policy is policy and guideline is guideline... and while policy is usually immutable, I also know and accept that each guideline has the (often ignored) hat-note "best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions may apply". As that SNG does not state any specific quantity, I shared a few representative samples... not realizing that "you" would wish this discussion to be blocked up by my providing links to every single one of his hundreds or thousands of reviews. Whew. But as that SNG does not state any specific quantity, just how many instances of the man's reviews and how many times being cited by others would you personally demand to be able to even grudgingly admit that WP:JOURNALIST might be met?? And do you also disagree with the meaning and intent of WP:RSOPINION?? And how is you are able to convince yourself that the many sources offered to support my contention fail policies requirement for the WP:V of the assertion? I've already granted that a merge and redirect would serve our readers (even if not you personally, as I realize you will never be convinced, and that's fine)... But DO NOT EVER state that I misrepresent policy. Such blatant WP:ADHOM is suitable for WP:ANI if repeated. Buh bye. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 07:43, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as the person does not appear to meet the basic BLP criteria or the journalist criteria. #1 in the latter criteria does not apply; his name has not been referenced in reliable sources outside IGN. The only exception I can find is him being quoted in the book Inhabited by Stories: Critical Essays on Tales Retold. Ultimately, not seeing why a stand-alone article is warranted; mention at IGN of his role seems sufficient. Erik II (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 17:11, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I see that his expertise has been cited outside of IGN many times:[19][20][21][22][23][24][25] enough so that a mention and redirect does serve our readers. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 07:43, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if that is what "widely cited" means, though? The way #1 is worded, "widely cited" being after "regarded as an important figure", seems to me to mean that when people widely cite you, they explicitly highlight your work or commentary, not just doing due diligence of including footnotes referencing articles that happened to be written by a journalist. Being quoted in that book is one such example, but I think we need more like that, not just footnote examples, to meet the "widely cited" criteria. Erik II (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 16:18, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to IGN or delete. Wikipedia has too many articles on non-notable film critics. Merely being prolific or getting a few trivial mentions scattered throughout Google results doesn't really do anything to establish notability. Someone like Roger Ebert or Kim Newman, who we can actually write a biography about, deserve to have articles. If all we can say is "he writes reviews for a website", then I don't think there's any hope of establishing notability, and you might as well just redirect his article to the website in question. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:44, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect and mention at IGN is acceptable per thoughts of NinjaRobotPirate and reasonable response of Erik II. Sense is always appreciated, thank you. Y Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 01:29, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merge / Redirect over to IGN, with something like a few sentences or so about him added over there CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 08:29, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Withdrawn. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 09:06, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Charlene Arthur

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Good faith, but unsourced WP:OR. Unencyclopaedic tone, eg worth noting... she would have caught the eye Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:04, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, terrible article, but Keep, and with thanks to Greasybiker1 for writing her up--the editor is obviously a first-time Wikipedian and this is reflected in the style and formatting. But as a subject, she is clearly notable, as a quick Google Book search shows (I added one). And with that, I'd like to turn this over to Rosiestep, the program's Senior Women's Article Rescue Mission Executive Director. Next up, DYK. Drmies (talk) 17:54, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
keep. Looks rescued; the added book cite has a solid write-up about her. Staszek Lem (talk) 23:45, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Jimfbleak, please look at the article again. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 01:46, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Looks great. I thought this might be salvageable, but it's not an area I have any knowledge of. Thanks to all those who have transformed the page. I'm happy for this AFD to be withdrawn or closed as a keep, not sure which is the approved procedure Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:52, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) Arr4 (talk) 07:38, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bangladesh Short Film Forum

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Unsourced and non notable, fully promotional article Arr4 (talk) 15:47, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Notable. Enough mainstream coverage - Zakir Hossain Raju, Bangladesh Cinema and National Identity: In Search of the Modern?, Routledge, 2014; Kathryn Bowser, AIVF guide to international film & video festivals (suppl.), Foundation for Independent Video and Film, 1996; Andrew N. Weintraub (ed.), Islam and Popular Culture in Indonesia and Malaysia, Routledge, 2011; Festival of South Asian Documentaries: Film South Asia, 1999-11-30; Cinemaya, Issue 23; Cahiers du cinéma, Issue 498. There also are dozens of newspaper articles on the festival it organizes, and its membership. The article is written poorly, though. A re-write with refs needed. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 02:38, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Strong Keep Seems to me to be clearly notable. I wonder if nom followed criteria at WP:BEFORE which states "If there are verifiability, notability or other sourcing concerns, take reasonable steps to search for reliable sources" and then "The minimum search expected is a Google Books search and a Google News archive search; Google Scholar is suggested for academic subjects", as reliable sources have been found. The fact an article is poorly or promotionally written does not justify deletion, it justifies improvement and re-writing. Also think this is a case of WP:GEOBIAS, the systemic lack of coverage and lack of a desire for coverage for primarily non-English speaking countries. AusLondonder (talk) 03:30, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:25, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ekobingsho

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Non notable and sources are not reliable. Just passing mentions etc. Arr4 (talk) 15:45, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. No significant coverage. Woodroar (talk) 22:29, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Reasonable significance for a certain non-American culture. Staszek Lem (talk) 23:49, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Cited sources are trivial mentions, and searches turned up only more of the same: [26], [27], [28]. Therefore it does not meet WP:GNG. Consulting the essays WP:NMAG and WP:NMEDIA for further perspective, I don't believe the topic meets any of their criteria. The editor won a minor award for one annual issue, but the essays have in mind major awards and/or notable journalistic awards. The magazine has been cited, but only very rarely. If other editors think it's a "significant publication in ethnic and other non-trivial niche markets", I would not object to a redirect to notable founder (in 1985) and editor (until 2010), Khondakar Ashraf Hossain, but there isn't enough material to justify a stand alone article.Worldbruce (talk) 08:52, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Not particularly notable. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 12:17, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per nom and above, particularly Worldbruce. Searches turned up nothing to suggest it passes WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 16:08, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete none of the four refs in the article talk about the magazine, they just mention its existence in articles on the long-time editor. Kraxler (talk) 18:02, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:41, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Best Western Plus Flathead Lake Inn and Suites

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Per WP:CHAIN, this franchise location is virtually interchangeable with any other one. This individual location does not have enough notability on its own to merit its own page. If there is something that make this location notable, the page must be completely redone. Upjav (talk) 15:29, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - very run of the mill, just a small (under 60 rooms) chain hotel. Many hostels, inns, and camps are not-for-profit, so that's nothing notable either. Bearian (talk) 01:01, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete for failing WP:ORG. In-depth coverage is local and from one source. The Fox News reference is mainly about biblical entrepreneurship with a brief mention of the hotel. Not finding RS coverage in independent searches. • Gene93k (talk) 03:45, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as my searches found nothing good at all and WP is not a travel guide. SwisterTwister talk 23:36, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. RockMagnetist(talk) 16:35, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Columbia Colles

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~~Fails WP:NGEO.~~. WP:NASTRO Existence does not confer notability. I have no objections to a Geography of Pluto article but having an article for each recently discovered geographic feature is absurd unless they have some other notability. Savonneux cites. (talk) 00:27, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Geographic features of astronomical objects is not covered in WP:GEO, my bad. My reasoning still stands per "subject of multiple, non-trivial published works."--Savonneux (talk) 04:59, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete.Isambard Kingdom (talk) 00:50, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Notable feature visible from space. Additional notability conferred by the name, in recognition of the tragic death of the astronauts of the destroyed Space Shuttle. Jus da fax 04:34, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Being visible from space is not a criteria, The object is, or has been, visible to the naked eye (from Earth) is though. Being named does not confer notability the existence of an astronomical object, or even the fact that it has been named does not guarantee notability--Savonneux (talk) 06:48, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete User DN-boards is in a campaign creating useless articles with complete disregard to Wikipedia's spirit and editors' feedback. BatteryIncluded (talk) 02:45, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or Merge - this doesn't have enough notability to merit its own article, but it could certainly be included in the page for the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster in, say, the "memorials" section, or, as Savonneux mentioned, an article on the geography of Pluto. Upjav (talk) 15:35, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: There are many other articles on the geography of Pluto of similar notability, such as Challenger Colles and Hayabusa Terra (look e.g. to {{Pluto}} for more of them). It would make more sense to treat them all under the same discussion. --Njardarlogar (talk) 11:42, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I nommed a bunch of them but they do have varying levels of notability so I didn't bundle them.--Savonneux (talk) 17:43, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How would they have varying levels of notability? --Njardarlogar (talk) 19:03, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Idk, some editors are comparing the notability of features mapped for the first time a month ago to places like The Alps--Savonneux (talk) 06:01, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:41, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Raymond Samuels

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WP:BLP of a person with no strong claim to passing Wikipedia's notability rules. As a politician, he's resting on the leadership of a political party that was never actually registered with Elections Canada and never verifiably had any significant membership beyond him alone, and as a writer he's tied entirely to self-published print on demand titles. The coverage is all either WP:ROUTINE coverage of his non-winning candidacies for office as the sole candidate of his unregistered party or bad primary sourcing, with not a whit of substantive coverage that would satisfy WP:GNG. This was created in 2005, so it's a holdover from a very different time in Wikipedia's evolution: all leaders of political parties were permitted inclusion regardless of the party's fringiness, and you could get away with sourcing stuff to press releases and student newspapers and primary sources and routine coverage that just namechecked his existence. But WP:BLP, WP:NPOL, WP:GNG and WP:RS have all been tightened up considerably in the past ten years, so many things that were considered okay in 2005 just aren't acceptable anymore. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 01:50, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment No opinion at this time, but just reading that old AFD -- wow. Things have changed. I started in 2006 and I guess I didn't take part in AFDs right away. Some of the arguments are so weak, so much "it's good for Wikipedia to have this", "not paper", and at least one from an administrator. Sorry. A bit off topic but I'm amazed. freshacconci talk to me 18:14, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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delete an amazing work of puffery. Funny thing, all independent sources seem to speak of nonnotability. Staszek Lem (talk) 23:56, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: puffery indeed, as per @Staszek Lem. Quis separabit? 15:29, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to List of Americans in the Venona papers. And perhaps briefly merge some content subject to editorial consensus. Sandstein 17:55, 10 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Emma Harriet Joseph

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Non-notable person, fails WP:GNG and WP:BIO. She is only mentioned once in the cited source, and that's in the appendix (which is just a list of hundreds of different people who were mentioned in the Venona Cables) rather than in the body of the text. Her name appears in a couple of other sources, but usually only as part of a similar list of people mentioned in the cables. This does not meet the threshold for significant coverage in reliable sources which is required to make someone notable - it's simply a passing mention. More generally, having been a communist, having worked for OSS, or having been a Soviet contact does not in itself make her notable, especially absent significant coverage in RS.

The second paragraph of the article appears to be OR, and is drawn from a primary source (the one cable that mentions her).

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Hi. Just curious. Is this a reliable source? Pbly not. Quis separabit? 18:25, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Rms125a@hotmail.com:, I'm not sure it matters - the "Emma Joseph" referred to there is a fictional character, not the same person this article's about. Note that the play's script puts her at age 26 in 1999 (that's when the play is set). Fyddlestix (talk) 18:30, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

delete a nonnotable spy. Staszek Lem (talk) 23:57, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete no sources in lexisnexis Pokerkiller (talk) 16:20, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
keep or merge with List_of_Americans_in_the_Venona_papers - some other entries there have very brief biographical information, so hers could be added to her name in the list. She was indeed named in the Venona papers, and she was even used as the main character in a play about the spy scandals: "After the Revolution". However, I don't know to what extent the play was based on fact. I will add a ref to the article, but wish it were easier to find more. I tried a few archives that I thought might be fruitful (e.g. The Nation Magazine) but it's quite possible that her name was not known until the Venona papers were unclassified in 1995. LaMona (talk) 03:25, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This person is already listed in the List of Americans in the Venona papers article. As for the play, it's discussed above - the "Emma Joseph" in that play is a fictional character, completely un-related to the subject of this article. Fyddlestix (talk) 03:35, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The main asserted facts on which the nomination is based are simply wrong. I am viewing google search results showing pages in The Verona Secrets which the nominator apparently could not or did not see.

It is false that "She is only mentioned once in the cited source, and that's in the appendix (which is just a list of hundreds of different people who were mentioned in the Venona Cables) rather than in the body of the text." That sentence links to appendix pages 353 and 388. However the sentence is false: she is covered in the main text of The Verona Secrets in passage over pages 294-295.
It is false that "The second paragraph of the article appears to be OR, and is drawn from a primary source (the one cable that mentions her)." The second paragraph material is directly supported by the main text in pages 294-295.

Incorrect premises of nomination ---> we reject the nomination. --do ncr am 01:10, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Doncram: Huh? The "premise" of the nomination is that the subject is not notable, and nothing that you write here changes that. You are confused on a number of points. First: she really does appear only once, in the appendix, of the cited source (the cited source being this book). That is the only source cited in the article. You are correct that she also appears to be mentioned briefly in a totally different book called The Venona Secrets. But that source is not cited in the article. (Although it should be, and I can see that it does in fact support the second paragraph). But again, the coverage is a passing mention of her - very far from the significant, in depth coverage that is required for someone to be notable. Fyddlestix (talk) 02:02, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I added the additional source for the 2nd paragraph and removed the OR tag. I still don't think this person is notable though - being mentioned in passing in 1 book, and listed in the appendix of the other is not nearly enough coverage to make her notable. Fyddlestix (talk) 14:56, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Subject does not pass WP:GNG. Searches didn't turn up anything which would help their significance, and the current sources to rise to meet the notability criteria. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 16:13, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to List of Americans in the Venona papers - apparently we don't know anything else about her, so a stand-alone article is not warranted, as she fails WP:GNG Kraxler (talk) 17:57, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - This person is only somewhat notable, and the only justified thing seems to be a mere mentioning over at List of Americans in the Venona papers. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 01:58, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Not much participation here, but after two relistings with no one advocating keeping the article, the time seems ripe for such a closure. Deor (talk) 10:40, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

BlackMotor Corporation

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Non-notable company because all my searches found nothing all and although someone added the company was actually not closed, the listed website is still closed and the LinkedIn-listed website is also closed. The closest relevant thing I found was this and some Books searches found results for a company from the 1960s and 1970s and since it seems this company was founded in 2009, it must not be that one and finally there are no signs of improvement. SwisterTwister talk 02:45, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - fails notability —Мандичка^YO 😜 06:01, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment I edited the article a little further. It needs a further search for references; I found some using the keywords "black motor" AND drones, but havent gone through them yet. DGG ( talk ) 18:03, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails wp:corp Pokerkiller (talk) 16:45, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Not a notable company. MER-C 09:59, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:41, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sergio Calderon

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WP:BLP of a mayor of a city with a population of just 27K, which is not large enough to confer automatic inclusion rights on a mayor under WP:NPOL — and he can't claim a WP:GNG pass either, because all two of the sources provided here are of the primary variety with no indication of reliable source coverage. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 02:49, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Mayor of a small city. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:57, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete fails WP:NPOL and GNG Kraxler (talk) 17:00, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:41, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tim Goodrich

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WP:BLP of a city councillor, in a city not large enough to confer automatic inclusion rights on its city councillors under WP:NPOL (only major metropolitan global cities on the order of Los Angeles, New York City, Toronto or London get that) — and the only two sources cited here are both primary ones (his own website and the city's) rather than reliable source coverage, which means he can't claim a WP:GNG pass either. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 02:56, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Councillor in a medium-sized city. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:56, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Nominator is a sock, so this could have been speedily closed a whie ago, but we're here now. The rest of the debate leads to no real consensus. Courcelles (talk) 20:14, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nguyễn Phúc Bửu Chánh

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This biography does not assert notability in any way, except as founder of the "Vietnamese Constitutional Monarchist League", an article with not even one source created by the same user. This article does not have any sources either, and in the article itself states he does not represent the royal family or have any legitimacy. Nor is he related to the royal family. Cagepanes (talk) 03:02, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. This article has existed since 2004, was the subject of some rather intense edit wars in its early history, and was the subject of an AfD discussion in 2006 (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nguyen Phuc Buu Chanh), which was a fairly easy Keep but at a time when WP:BLP standards were far looser than they are now. While the article has never had any inline sourcing, earlier versions of the article do contain external links which might (or might not) be usable as sources. Also, some earlier versions of the article contain unsourced but potentially credible claims of significance which, if verified, might suggest that the subject's claims could have a limited basis in decisions by ex-emperor Bảo Đại towards the end of his life, though if so they were either never accepted or interpreted very differently by Bảo Đại's family. Basically, I am seeing enough potential leads from previous versions of the article that one or other of them might just establish notability, but not enough likelihood of this to search further. PWilkinson (talk) 11:44, 22 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Per PWilkinson's helpful hint, I went to an older version of the article. There are at least two good sources: this article in The Cornell Daily Sun and this article^WebCite in the Philadelphia City Paper. I think there is just enough material here to retain the article. Cunard (talk) 06:23, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Revert to the version found by User:Cunard. --Slashme (talk) 11:19, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
NOTE AfD started by sock of indeffed user Kbabej. Suggest discarding this AfD per WP:DENY. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 00:51, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for lack of notability. Sourcing is not the real issue here. Even looking back to the better version proffered by User:Cunard, the only real assertion of notability is that the subject of the article advocates having somebody else on the throne. And as for being the president of an organization, this does not confer notability on the instant subject, even if the organization itself were notable (and in this regard, note that the organization itself survived its recent AfD only because nobody bothered to state an opinion on it). Finally, sockpuppetry is bad and should be eliminated, but that is not a reason to waive the notability requirements for the instant article. NewYorkActuary (talk) 01:24, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for or lack of notability. Sourcing is not the real issue here. – but notability per Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline is determined by sources, not assertions of importance or fame. Cunard (talk) 03:45, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the opportunity to clarify my position. My point was that, even if you resolved all of the sourcing issues to everybody's satisfaction, you still would not have resolved the question of notability. If, as is the case here, the subject's main claim to notability is that he advocates the ascension of some other person to the throne, then he himself is not a notable person. And this remains true even if you succeed in finding reliable sources for that claim. NewYorkActuary (talk) 04:07, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Courcelles (talk) 20:26, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Warren Slocum

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WP:BLP of a county supervisor, written extremely like a campaign brochure (my new worst thing ever: politicians whose articles give the names of their pets in the family section) and parked on abysmal sourcing. Almost everything here is a primary source, and a lot of them are deadlinked at that — and the closest thing to a reliable source is a single PBS Newshour piece (reduplicated as sources #4 and #7 for no apparent reason) in which he gets passingly namechecked as a soundbite provider in a report where he is not the subject. Actually, forget the dog and the cat: new even-worse thing ever, this actually tries to get away with sourcing to an internet talk radio stream in ref #16 (and not to any archive of that stream's content by which we can verify what was said, either, but just to the fresh live stream.) All of which means that nothing here is substantive enough, or sourced well enough, to make him eligible for an article under WP:NPOL #3. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 03:51, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. County supervisors aren't generally notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:54, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as there's nothing to suggest better improvement. SwisterTwister talk 05:50, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MER-C 07:28, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Stephan Rich

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Insufficient coverage in reliable sources to meet WP:GNG or WP:BIO. His name is only mentioned in passing in the cited source, that's in the appendix (which is just a list of hundreds of different people mentioned in the Venona Cables) rather than in the text itself. Simply being mentioned one time in the cables does not confer notability, especially when there's basically zero coverage in any other RS that I can find. Fyddlestix (talk) 04:31, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - searches on News, Newspapers, Books, Scholars, Highbeam and JSTOR reveal nothing to show notability for this individual. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 17:53, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as my searches found nothing either and there's hardly much for a separate article. SwisterTwister talk 05:54, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:41, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

SchoolTipline

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I simply can't find anything to suggest even minimal improvement with my most fruitful searches here and here (zero results at News, browser and thefreelibrary). The current sources aren't satisfying enough to suggest further improvement or better notability. As the tagger, I'm inviting C.Fred to comment. SwisterTwister talk 04:56, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I tagged this over four years ago noting that sources need improved. They haven't been, so I endorse the nomination for deletion. —C.Fred (talk) 16:06, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Not notable and promotional. They claim to have worked in 50 schools (without any 3rd party evidence) but even if they have, this is a very minor effort. DGG ( talk ) 17:31, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Kraxler (talk) 19:16, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Timothy Harlan

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My searches found nothing outstandingly good to suggest improvement, here, here, here, here and here. There's never been any significant improvement and from the signs of it, there isn't any anytime soon. SwisterTwister talk 05:51, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep I found a more recent book and added it--a book which seems much more important, or at least much more widely held, than his earlier ones: There seem to be a fe minor reviews for it. Overall, it might be a notable career. DGG ( talk ) 17:46, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep the idea of a New Orleans internist who moonlights as a chef called Dr. Gourmet charmed me enough to do a little search. Not on his name, but on "Dr. Gourmet" on news google. results here: [29]. This article is a keeper. Even though it needs editing.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:04, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. Withdrawn by nominator (non-admin closure) — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:06, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Forensic osteology

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The information stated in forensic osteology describes the role of forensic anthropology. The two disciplines are one in the same. In addition, the stub is unlikely to be further expanded upon and has existed in its current state for years. --Stabila711 (talk) 09:19, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Withdrawn by nominator After thinking about it for awhile it would probably be better if the article was merged and a redirect was left instead of a flat out deletion. The article has 3 out of the 4 reasons for a merger (overlap, text, and context) so that is probably the best option. --Stabila711 (talk) 21:37, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - per WP:GNG.--BabbaQ (talk) 18:56, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Kraxler (talk) 19:20, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Istituto Marangoni

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Following on from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/IFA Paris, this appears to be another unaccredited fashion school; sources are variously unreliable and vague mentions. Stifle (talk) 10:09, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Disclaimer: I did a bit of work on this last year after removing some major copyright violations there, and added a number of references. I did so because I was sure it would be found to be notable if sent to AfD – it had already survived once. I don't care one way or the other whether it is kept, but I'm certain it's notable; here's the Manchester Guardian describing it as "one of Europe's leading design schools" and saying that it "has played a pivotal role in the growth of the Italian fashion industry". It has innumerable passing mentions, and in-depth coverage in a number of independent reliable sources, a couple of which I have now added to the page. It's not clear to me whether or how it is able to award degrees in Italy, as it is not recognised by the Ministero dell'istruzione, dell'università e della ricerca (in common with many other private schools; state recognition is a high bar in Italy). In England it is a listed body, and is listed as such by the Higher Education Funding Council for England. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 16:52, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Correction: checking the talk page, I find that it survived WP:PROD, not AfD. The WP:COI problems appear to be under control. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 16:57, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep I was easily able to find news articles in Italian newspapers, some of which I added to the article - and they support the reputation and individual facts about the institute. I can also find spreads in Italian and French fashion magazines. I don't think it functions as a truly academic institution, being more like a private art school. I can add more links later since I'll be in Italy in 10 days and from there a search should turn up more sources. LaMona (talk) 03:53, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:HEY: enough RS to support a claim of notability. Cavarrone 05:39, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Kraxler (talk) 17:08, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Combined Joint Task Force – Operation Inherent Resolve

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The alleged existence of ‘CJTF-OIR’ is unclear, undefined, and vaguely attested only by one source.
The only source now mentioned in the article as (vaguely) ‘defining’ the CJTF-OIR, is (present reference source 3) a bulletin of the U.S. Department of Defense, 21 April 2015, saying: “CJTF-OIR is the US-led Coalition’s response to ISIL” – which phrase is ambiguous:

Is that phrase meant literally, like an answer(response) in a conversation? But then the bulletin doesn’t tell us who exactly that ‘Coalition’ is, nor what ISIL said before this “response”. What is the meaning or encyclopedicalness of this response – consisting only of one, unknown noun: ‘CJTF-OIR’?
Or is the phrase meant metaphorically, meaning that some coalition is reacting on the existence of ISIL by saying (or doing or creating) ‘CJTF-OIR’? But then again: the bulletin doesn’t tell us who that ‘Coalition’ is. And: just saying that “CJTF-OIR” was said (or done or created) in “response” gives us no information about what that CJTF-OIR really is.
Wikipedia however seems to transform that (incomprehensible) ‘message’ of the U.S. Government into sheer fantasy in the current opening sentence of the article: “CJTF-OIR is the US-led Coalition”, which surely is not being said in ref source 3, as is falsely alleged now in the article (nor is that opening sentence corroborated with any other given source).

So: whether we’d take the above-given, allowed, interpretation (1) or (2), the phrase in ref source 3 does not give a clear definition of CJTF-OIR; and resort to fantasy, as in interpretation (3), is not what Wikipedia should do.
Having a Wiki article about a term (‘CJTF-OIR’) only because that term appears in some (vague) communiqués of the U.S. Department of Defense that don’t even succeed to clearly define and describe what CJTF-OIR is, and then, for lack of a clear and sourced defintion, fantasizing what we think CJTF-OIR is or might be or should be or can be, is not the purpose of Wikipedia.
The relevant information now in this article about 'BPC program' and '450 civilians killed' has been replaced by me into article Military intervention against ISIL. -- Corriebertus (talk) 12:33, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - I'm a bit confused by the deletion rationale to be honest, is there some policy that you feel it doesn't meet / breeches? A very brief Google search yields thousands of results which attest to its existence, some of which are of course US Defense Department publications and but many others are to various news reports and other sources independent of the DoD, there are also a couple of mentions in books already [30] so I'd say it probably meets WP:GNG. As far as I can tell this is indeed the forward headquarters of the US and countries that are allied to it that are currently involved in the conflict in Iraq and Syria (and I added a ref which provided some details of the HQ and its make up) that co-ordinates the military aspects of their actions so it would seem to be a significant command (commanded by a Lieutenant General no less) in an ongoing major conflict involving most Western nations and as such looks like quite a viable topic to me. Anotherclown (talk) 08:53, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Simple misunderstanding. --Sammy1339 (talk) :04:50, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Countering the reasonings for 'keep' given by Anotherclown: Colleague Anotherclown is of the opinion, 25 August, that CJTF-OIR exists and is being reported about in (also) many non-US-Defense sources. Perhaps that is so but it is not recognizable in our article. I have ofcourse tried to find ‘good’ non-US-Government sources myself but could not find them.
And Anotherclown suggests, now here in this discussion. a new definition of CJTF-OIR. But still today, the definition in the article has not been ‘corrected’. I’d recommend him to repair the article – it is not my job to change an (up until now obviously false) article by copying opinions or rationales or arguments of other editors.
Anotherclown also asks me: is any Wikipedia policy being breeched or being not met? Well, as I clearly wrote, 17 August: the article is misleading the reader with a false reference, on the most vital point in the article. I really shouldn’t have to look up which policy is being breeched with false references to sources, should I? I've notified Mr Anotherclown of this reply. --Corriebertus (talk) 11:29, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The possible existence of errors of fact in the article isn't a valid reason to delete it (pls see Wikipedia:Deletion is not cleanup). As for it not being your job to fix them (to quote your response above), its not mine either though is it? We are all volunteers after all. You seem to have identified a problem with the definition of the subject which maybe others have not so perhaps you "fixing it" would indeed be the quickest solution and the one which would best serve the purpose of improving the encyclopedia. Anotherclown (talk) 11:54, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(Dis)qualifying the posting of Sammy1339 on this page(27Aug):
I propose to ~~strike out~~ (strike out) his posting completely, for the reason that he gives no argument for nor against deletion of the article in question, therefore his posting is to be considered off-topic on this page. His reaction: “Simple misunderstanding”, is only a noun coupled with an adjective. It is not a statement, not a recognizable argument for or against anything. Who is misunderstanding what or whom, Sammy1339? How do you know? What has that to do with the issue under debate, here?
We should avoid the misunderstanding that a deletion discussion is only a matter of counting how many people jot down ‘keep’ or ‘not keep’. This here is not like a general election in your home country, where you are free to just vote for the man/woman whose promises (or lies) (or haircut) you like best, without having to account for your vote to anybody. This here is an encyclopedia, and we decide only on the basis of rational arguments. (Therefore, such off-topic postings should best be either removed, or struck.)
I've notified Sammy1339 of my questions here to him. --Corriebertus (talk) 16:26, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To quote the talk page guidelines, "Striking text constitutes a change in meaning, and should only be done by the user who wrote it or someone acting at their explicit request." So please do not strike out his comment. CarnivorousBunny^talk 17:44, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 07:30, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ashwin Srinivasan

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(Auto)biography of a business executive. The article reads like a CV and does not show notability, and a search for sources doesn't find anything. There are quite a few newspaper sources about two other persons by the same name, but nothing about this guy. Being deputy general manager for one division of a large multinational company does not automatically confer notability, and the only thing written about him in independent sources is the fact that he is part of a mentorship programme within the company. bonadea contributions talk 13:15, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete no where near being a notable figure in business.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:04, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete nothing notable-- . Shlok _{talk .} 07:15, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Bonadea and fails WP:BIO.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 13:37, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 08:52, 20 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ulf Herman

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not notable, no sources to verify RealDealBillMcNeal (talk) 20:10, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Competed at the fully professional level of his sport. Was part of a major stable in the third biggest promotion in the United States at the peak of its popularity. GaryColemanFan (talk) 14:43, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Nice proof. No extensive coverage of any of this, mind. RealDealBillMcNeal (talk) 18:49, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete i think "fully professional" is misleading. There is no amateur version unless you count backyard feds. No really notable achievements as far as i can see. MPJ -US 20:45, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I did not actually remember his time in ECW, reading through the section he won one' match, a singles match on a house show over a tag team guy. Even his PPV "participation" consisted of him being ringside during someone else's match. So he was in ECW, but ECW was never so big that working for them on a regular basis is enough to establish notability, it's not even close to WWE, more like Ring of Honor. MPJ -US 08:43, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Unless he was extremely marginal in the group another idea could be to either merge of redirect to The Full Blooded Italians.--174.91.187.234 (talk) 22:39, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I disagree that working for the third largest wrestling promotion in the United States, who had a nationally (and then some) televised deal, doesn't establish notability. To work for the company for years is demonstration of notability. Keep in mind the parallels in other sports--playing a single MLB or NHL game is sufficient to establish notability. I'm not saying that a single match should be enough, but to compete for years, in a non enhancement/jobber role shows a level of achievement sufficient to show notability. Unfortunately, I don't have access to the books at the moment, but I have been told that All Or Nothing: The Story of Europe's Most Controversial Wrestling Company and Holy Grail: The True Story of British Wrestling's Revival (written by a former professional wrestler and a former professional wrestling manager, respectively) both have extensive coverage of Herman's career in the UK, where he also has a lengthy list of accomplishments to demonstrate notability. Ultimately, we've got a guy whose career on two different continents are each sufficiently notable; put them together, and there's no way this article should be deleted or merged. GaryColemanFan (talk) 15:56, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - nothing on the search engines except some trivial mentions on News and Books. Zero on newspapers, scholar, highbeam and Jstor. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 16:00, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: This article needs some help. The claims of notability are not fluff, and there is a German version of his article de:Ulf_Herman and the Germans tend to delete slightly more frequently than here (though it was never subjected to AFD there). There is some evidence that more sourcing exists ( http://m.hildesheimer-allgemeine.de/index.php?id=2983&tx_ttnews[backPid]=2978&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=316488&cHash=5a710414a25796e3c7816d47e29b66a6 - brackets in link are screwing up wikimarkup). Is anyone willing to userify and improve if deletion is the only other prospect?--Milowent • ^hasspoken 17:05, 10 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Commment: I have also found this site (in translation): [31]. It describes him as a German wrestling legend and discusses his induction into the Hall of Fame for a German wrestling organization in recognition of his 23 years as a professional. I have also added a bit more information (with a few additional sources) and trimmed some of the promotional language. GaryColemanFan (talk) 05:22, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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You've got to be kidding. GaryColemanFan (talk) 22:43, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Being that this is the English language Wikipedia it's natural to unintentionally ignore foreign sources. His run in the English-speaking wrestling world wasn't incredibly noteworthy but he seems to have had a somewhat noteworthy career on the independent scene in Germany.LM2000 (talk) 00:17, 12 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. There seems to be enough editors who favor a merge, however, that it may be advisable to propose one at Talk:Taste; that would be a better place to decide whether this should be a stand-alone article or should be incoporated into that article. The consensus is that the information should appear on Wikipedia somewhere. Deor (talk) 10:26, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oleogustus

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Original article PMID 26142421 fails WP:MEDRS, all the sources here are pop-sci sources. Deletion or redirect to Taste#Fattiness. No content salvagable as all sources fail. -- CFCF 🍌 (email) 15:24, 24 August 2015 (UTC) -- CFCF 🍌 (email) 15:24, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It makes it clear that this is a "proposed" new taste. I do not see it as being undue. It is not making an effectiveness claim. Maybe merge to "taste"? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:12, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Taste#Fattiness, which already has related content. Failing WP:MEDRS is irrelevant as this is a biology article, not a medical article. The citations are fine for a biology article. Bondegezou (talk) 22:08, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
WP:SCIRS is pretty clear that whatever they are, it's not "fine". -- CFCF 🍌 (email) 05:43, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The article cites the original research report, as WP:SCIRS allows in a situation like this. WP:SCIRS does not disallow news coverage, although it has advice on when and how to use it. The article needs improving in terms of how it uses citations, but that's not an argument for its deletion or not using the content in the article in a merge. Bondegezou (talk) 11:04, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete I'm saying delete because this concept has not received any independent critical coverage. There is no evidence that anybody will remember this term a year from now. I would not be opposed to having an article if the article could clearly state that the concept has not yet been validated, but Wikipedia's policies make that very difficult: it is impossible to find reliable secondary sources to substantiate the fact that there are no reliable secondary sources. Looie496 (talk) 13:45, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merge (was delete) per RockMagnetist, albeit severely trimmed. as there is not enough evidence this will become a widely used term. WP:NEO and WP:TOOSOON obviously apply here, and merging/redirecting is moot at this point. The primary source is so recent it hasn't even been cited once for crying out loud! Wikipedia is not a news outlet. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 20:33, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
keep The sources are adequate to show the phenomenon as a reasonable scientific hypothesis. WP covers such hypotheses; they need to be recognized and discussed before we can cover them, but they don't have to actually be proven true, as long as the article correctly states the status. The sources for this are high ranking scientific journals, and that is all that is necessary for biology. There is however a problem with the terminology--I doubt very mush this will end upas the accepted term, but we need some place to keep the material. Just as Umami was for a long while referred to as the fifth taste until its nature became more defined, and it became accepted as corresponding to a preexisting Japanese term, I suggest sixth taste as a temporary place-holder. DGG ( talk ) 04:56, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- DGG Per your words: "WP covers such hypotheses; they need to be recognized and discussed before we can cover them". This is exactly what we don't have. There is a single study that has proposed this term, and it hasn't even been cited once (it was published last month; I exclude the Time article from my analysis because in the world we live today this sort of thing is easy and catchy reading {see this and this}). If the term is subsequently discussed in the literature, then of course Wikipedia could use an article about it. The fact of the matter is it is too new even to have been discussed appropriately. We can't include this at present per WP:FRINGE. As it stands, this is a single article summary; if there is significant coverage about it at a later point, then I'd gladly see it created again. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 19:39, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  There's an inherent problem in this: in science, it takes time to write and publish a paper--normally at least 6 months. In contrast, for films or books, a review can come out the same day the item is published, if not earlier. But there are already news items about it: the article give Time and Science News; I see also NPR and the Guardian. Public interest in a hypothesis is just as significant forus as scientific interest (the special restrictions of MEDRS have their place, but this is human biology, not clinical medicine.) This is unlikely to be ignored--using common snese, there is fairly certain to be work either confirming or refuting it. DGG ( talk ) 21:14, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  Should we have articles on beer goggles, neurotic people being more creative, autism and gluten, and cricket swings and weather? FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 19:33, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I find it hard to classify this as a "science" article at all, and it has absolutely nothing to do with medicine. It's really no more scientific than Scoville scale or Pungency or Sweetness. I am unimpressed by the assertion that we should delete the article because the peer-review cycle is too slow to have already produced "discussions in the [scientific] literature" about what food tastes like. That's the biggest problem with this proposal IMO: this is being treated like it's some sort of medical project, and it's not. This is about eating. IMO these are acceptable sources for this point in time. Additionally, there is quite a bit here (e.g., the sourced history section) that could be merged to Taste#Fattiness, if we someday decide not to keep it as a separate article. WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:13, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Passes WP:GNG and also keep per WP:NTEMP. The topic has received international significant coverage in reliable sources. See this link for source examples. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 17:17, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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How does this pass NTEMP? I see no coverage previous to July 2015. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 19:33, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:NTEMP, "once a topic has been the subject of "significant coverage" in accordance with the general notability guideline, it does not need to have ongoing coverage." North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 07:31, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment In terms of WP:NTEMP/WP:NEO concerns, the original academic journal paper builds on an existing literature, so one can build better article content using a variety of sources... but that literature is already covered at Taste#Fattiness. I see no point in having Oleogustus as it is separate from the material at Taste#Fattiness. Either merge Oleogustus into Taste (a simple cut'n'paste job), or take the Taste#Fattiness material out of Taste and merge it into Oleogustus. DGG, in terms of your suggestion for a sixth taste placeholder, while I like the idea, if you go to Taste, there is a lot of material already there about tastes beyond the traditional 5. Indeed, the more obvious candidate for a "sixth taste" is kokumi, so a fattiness taste would be a seventh taste! (There's more literature to support a full kokumi article than there is for oleogustus, I suggest, although those sources haven't been included in Taste yet.) WhatamIdoing: I'm not certain I agree with your argument that this is no more scientific than Scoville scale or Sweetness. This, and sweetness, are entirely scientific topics, like visual perception or hearing; and those are all much more scientific than Scoville scale. (I did my PhD on food psychology: I don't like to see the subject dismissed!) Bondegezou (talk) 21:03, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- I disagree. What food tastes like is a fundamentally human topic, about which science can provide some interesting and valuable information. Non-science (e.g., aesthetics, aka "does it taste good?") also plays a role here. Refusing to engage in the overmedicalization of food is not dismissing the subjects: it's restoring them to their rightful (and broader) position. WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:58, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The relation with medicines and MEDRS sounds really weird and I see no reason to delete this article on these grounds. The sources are adequate to show the phenomenon as a reasonable scientific hypothesis. The Banner talk 12:29, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think anyone implied that relation, at least I didn't. I believe the conversation has veered off course, and we are all countering valid yet not quite similar arguments. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 16:43, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Taste#Fattiness. A subject may have enough sources to make it notable, but that doesn't mean that a separate article is the best thing for Wikipedia. Restrict web searches to before 2015, and you can build a similar case for kokumi ([32],[33],[34],[35], etc.), carbohydrates ([36],[37],[38],[39]), and so on ([40],[41]). You could have a separate article for each, claiming that it is the sixth flavor, and leave readers with different impressions depending on how they got to Wikipedia; or you can put them all together in one article and let the reader see all the claims together, as well as the common criteria for what constitutes a taste. I think that would be more encyclopedic. RockMagnetist(talk) 00:53, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is the most reasonable proposal so far. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 01:20, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Antigng (talk) 03:23, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Eye of Agamotto

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This may well be important inside the particular fictional world, but there is no secondary sourcing for this article, and whatever I saw in the less fictional world of Google was either primary stuff or fan stuff--nothing we could call in-depth discussion in reliable sources. I'll settle for a redirect, of course. Drmies (talk) 15:23, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. A core artefact in the Doctor Strange mythos, and thus both mentioned and discussed in all evaluations of the Ditko/Lee reimagining of sorcery; the article is over-stuffed with in-universe detail and under-referenced, but I have added three sample references to it in independent discussions of the material. Also Cat Yronwode's prominence in the field should be noted in weighting the reference to her that was already present. Yngvadottir (talk) 18:30, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Notable enough for it's own article, it's been in the comics since 1963, has appeared in direct-to-TV films and animated movies, and TV shows (including the 1994 Spider-Man show, The Super Hero Squad Show, and Doctor Strange: The Sorcerer Supreme). That definitely qualifies it for notability, and Yngvadottir has already added references. SuperCarnivore591 (talk) 23:52, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Covered in detail in sources such as Encyclopedia of Comic Books and Graphic Novels and American Comics, Literary Theory, and Religion. Andrew D. (talk) 17:03, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or merge Not strong enough to have its own article; but I can see it helping out a different article as a support item, more or less. The Undead Never Die (talk) 01:06, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - No good merge candidate, and adding a more detailed description of the object on every page that links to it doesn't seem useful. Argento Surfer (talk) 20:28, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Courcelles (talk) 00:57, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Prime Advantage Corporation

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Trivial awards, refs are PR. No notability. DGG ( talk ) 03:16, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment There are some sources that look pretty good,[42][43] but they are primarily about the org's surveys. CorporateM (Talk) 02:18, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The resources are solid, including the awards. Perspective on the awards being trivial comes from a librarian, not a professional that understands the manufacturing and supply chain markets. Only four of the 12 references are connected to the company's benchmarked surveys. (Talk) 03:28, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Uncertain as my searches found virtually nothing but the article albeit not entirely good is acceptable I suppose. I'd like to hear from other users to better form my vote. SwisterTwister talk 05:31, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: -- blatant business promotionalism. Quis separabit? 17:17, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: -- this page can be improved, but is a worthy example of a Group Purchasing Organization. GPOs are very popular in insurance and manufacturing. Also noteworthy because it is founded by and run by a woman in a male-dominated industry. The founder and her career are referenced in General Managers in Action^[1], 1992, by Harvard Professor Frank Aguilar. She is also noted in the book Managing Corporate Ethics^[2], also by Frank Aguilar and published in 1994 by Oxford University Press, and in Lessons in Leadership by Charles Bernstein, 1993. In 1987, Harvard Business School published a case study on O'Sullivan and her management challenges at Groen (which is still in use at business schools across the US). GPOsAreReal]] 17:17, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

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^ Aguilar, Frank (April 30, 1992). General Managers in Action: Policies and Strategies (Second ed.). Oxford University Press. p. 186, 489-490, 504. ISBN 0195073673.
^ Aguilar, Francis (May 12, 1994). Managing Corporate Ethics: Learning from America's Ethical Companies How to Supercharge Business Performance (First Printing ed.). Oxford University Press. p. 11.

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Delete. Seems to be promotional, but that's not a reason in itself to delete. Sourcing is entirely routine business coverage. BusterD (talk) 04:26, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Actually, per WP:DEL-REASON, if an article is purely promotional/advertising, that is a reason for deletion. Regardless, this particular article doesn't meet WP:GNG, as per searches on the engines. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 16:45, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:33, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Annansi Clothing Co.

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Non-notable company and my searches found no marginally good evidence of coverage with the best here and here. It seems the author had a habit of not adding many good references (made several articles but not many good sources with them) and I'm not seeing any new evidence of better sources. Sure the article at least has sources and is neatly written but what I can't get past is no additional coverage and there's no good move target. SwisterTwister talk 01:18, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Technically, should be deleted, but see comments - I can't remember what brought me to the article now - I think I came across it in Ghanaian Fashion Designers category while housekeeping List of fashion designers and I think I was trying to find SOME sort of sourcing to make it less instantly non-deletable. The major problem with articles of this type is that African press is not always readily accessible online - I've run into trouble with other African fashion designers where they clearly seem to be notable in their country and recognised, but the sourcing is simply not readily accessible online - it means that sometimes you can barely tell the difference between a notable designer and someone trying to big up a non-notable. The fact that Kofi G. Annan has managed to get his marketing/social media techniques written about in a book about the subject is quite significant; and the further reading links to a significant essay he wrote along similar lines. For an African fashion designer, that sort of online availability of information is pretty amazing. But yes, the problem is that the (very little) of what else is out there is press releases, and there is also an issue that African fashion design is really underrepresented on Wikipedia. But technically, it should be deleted - although with no prejudice against recreation once further sourcing becomes available. Trouble is, this is something that sounds like it ought to pass notability, but there are next to no acceptable AND readily accessible sources. Mabalu (talk) 11:10, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete . A good part of the firms's work and exhibitions have been in the US, so if there are no sources for this either, there's no basis for keeping this article. (If Annan is notable, there could be an article on him) DGG ( talk ) 19:24, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: This is a minor clothing line with a nice story. That book source mentions it briefly, but the book itself seems to be an indiscriminate collection of company stories itself. --Slashme (talk) 23:00, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. We're not quite to GNG. A reasonable search doesn't help us much. Might be sourcing out there, but I'm not seeing it. BusterD (talk) 04:22, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 20:07, 10 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Functional Food Centre at Oxford Brookes University

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Highly promotional and at best borderline notable. (It might be possible to merge a single short paragraph to the university, but the merge was objected to.) The refs are notices or PR--even the article in theTelegraph is essentially a press release. Promotional language and unsourced adjectives of phrase throughout; long list of their services, extensive use of jargon. Note that this is not Oxford University , but the school formerly known as Oxford City Technical School. Lack of notability is not the only reason for deletion. Borderline notability combined with clear promotionalism is an equally good reason. Small variations to the notability standard either way do not fundamentally harm the encycopedia, but accepting articles that are part of a promotional campaign causes great damage. Once we become a vehicle for promotion, we're useless as an encycopedia DGG ( talk ) 14:01, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Unsure but maybe redirect to Oxford Brookes University#Specialist Study where it is mentioned - I wanted to hear from other people until commenting but my searches didn't find much sources here, here, here, here and here. SwisterTwister talk 03:32, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - The nominator includes one distinctly bad reason for deletion and, in my opinion, rather overstates his main reason. Whether a British university was already a university before 1992 or was, like Oxford Brookes University, up until then (or later) a polytechnic or college can still correlate fairly well (though not totally) with their current standing - but what they were called in or before the 1960s is effectively irrelevant. In league tables, Oxford Brookes tends to come through slightly below average for all British universities and among the better former polytechnics. And even borderline notability should trump promotionalism - provided that the article not only can be, but is, rewritten to show that notability without any of the promotionalism. Having said that, it comes nowhere near saving this article. The best research centres at an average British university would probably be considered to be average or somewhat below at Oxford University (and be rather unlikely to be notable enough for a standalone article) - but a check on Research Excellence Framework results and Oxford Brookes's own webpages suggests that it does not even come close to this. It is apparently one of three research centres within Oxford Brookes's Faculty of Health and Life Sciences - but the Faculty seems to have completely ignored it when making its REF submission (which itself was not one of the best from Oxford Brookes). While it might be possible for Oxford Brookes to have a research centre notable enough for a standalone article, this clearly isn't it. PWilkinson (talk) 09:45, 22 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge as suggested since August 2014. There's no evidence of separate notability. Bearian (talk) 01:03, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
'Delete the mention on the Oxford Brookes article is enough and I don't see much further material that could be merged, the article appears to be a promotional piece for a non-notable research centre Aloneinthewild (talk) 13:29, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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'Delete. None of the sources, especially the few independent ones, set apart any encyclopedic notability for a research center. Appears to mostly be a promotion page, so probably best to just delete. Kingofaces43 (talk) 04:08, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. There are two reliable, independent sources - articles in The Telegraph and The Oxford Times - that contain more than adequate depth of coverage for an organization. I'm mystified by @DGG's claim that the Telegraph article is "essentially a press release". A promotional tone is not among the reasons for deletion unless it is spam, which this is not. It seems to me that the NPOV issues are easily fixed. RockMagnetist(talk) 16:32, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: this article seems, on the face of it, a reliable source, although it is in a magazine (Next Generation Food) which seems to have disappeared after around 2012. RockMagnetist(talk) 18:12, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: @DGG: @SwisterTwister: @PWilkinson: @Aloneinthewild: @Kingofaces43: I have completely rewritten the article, and it should be obvious now that the topic merits an article. RockMagnetist(talk) 18:57, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per RockMagnetist (talk · contribs)'s rewrite. The subject has received substantial coverage in The Daily Telegraph, The Oxford Times, and the magazine Next Generation Food.
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Functional Food Centre at Oxford Brookes University to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
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The result was delete. Courcelles (talk) 20:27, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

DoItYourself.com

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Does not establish notability per the general notability guideline in that it fails to provide (multiple) reliable source(s) covering the entity in detail. A brief GNEWS search found nothing but trivial mentions and SEO-type referral links. The previous AFD in 2010 made no assessment of this specific page. Izno (talk) 14:12, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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delete References in article are passing mentions. Could not find anything notable about the website. Fails GNG. CerealKillerYum (talk) 14:07, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The important facts in this article are that it was created by someone and then acquired by someone else, and those facts are unreferenced. I think its inclusion on the list of companies on the internet Brands page is more than adequate. The best source for anyone interested in the article subject is probably the page itself... Its history is minimally notable. New Media Theorist (talk) 15:43, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (WP:NPASR). North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:29, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Card warp

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I cannot find any sources that discuss this in detail and are not solely in "how-to"... Wikipedia:NOTHOWTO... format. There are not even many of the latter. The sources already included in the article appear to be "how-to" material of that nature. One apparently reliable source describes it as a "classic" card trick (in a clause mentioning some other tricks), but has no other details. Significant coverage in reliable sources therefore does not appear to exist. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 15:37, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Delivery drone#In healthcare. As the probably most acceptable variant of the outcome of not keeping this as a separate article. Sandstein 17:52, 10 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Let's fly wisely

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This event, originally described as a "history-making event" in which the first FAA-approved drone was used to make a delivery, appears more to be a research/demonstration event in the FAA's ongoing efforts to investigate the uses of drone technology. It was a single research demonstration event, not a "history-making breakthrough". As such, I don't believe it deserves its own stand-alone article. The event may merit mention in other articles on drones, such as delivery drone or Regulation of unmanned aerial vehicles, but it does not merit its own article. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:46, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Per nominator, WP:1E. Possible inclusion on another related article, but not non-notable for standalone. Jppcap (talk) 14:32, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. WP:1E is for people notable for a single event, and doesn't apply to events. WP:EVENTCRIT, I think, should be the overriding guideline used here, and I believe this article meets those requirements. First, it is historically significant as the first of its kind, and it will have lasting significance, as the increase of drone usage continues to grow. Second, it has widespread coverage, even in its current incarnation, with articles from WaPo, NBC, USA Today, and Forbes. Third, it probably meets WP:GNG as well. A news search alone turned up significant coverage, both nationally and internationally. In addition to the sources already in the article, there were this, this from Fortune (which would make a great addition to the article since it goes into the current drone controversy), this from IBT, this, this, this, this from La Vanguardia, and this, from the French HuffPo. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 16:05, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Delivery drone#In healthcare - stand-alone article is not warranted, in spite of the flash-in-the-pan media buzz. Kraxler (talk) 17:52, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Delivery drone#In healthcare - Per Kraxler. HeatIsCool (talk) 21:27, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Courcelles (talk) 20:28, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

.450 Bonecrusher

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Non-notable firearm cartridge type. The only provided reference is an esay by the developer himself. I'm not finding any viable references that demonstrate WP:N, though the cartridge does appear in various publications of exhaustive lists of ammunition types. Mikeblas (talk) 15:47, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to .500_Linebaugh, it's a wildcat. Appears in most reloading manuals. Supposed to replicate the performance of a .454 Casull. As with all wildcats though they are very niche and the variations are endless.--Savonneux (talk) 13:19, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete...Not notable, just one of countless obscure wildcat cartridges. I can't even find a major manufacturer that has ever made a gun chambered for it. I think the only guns ever made for it were the inventors prototypes.--RAF910 (talk) 07:02, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete...Normally I would say merge to the parent cartridge if there is sufficient sourcing, there is not...just 1 self published ref and the article looks like it was written by a 10-year-old.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 17:39, 31 August 2015 (UTC),[reply]

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The result was keep. The list needs significant work, but no valid argument for deletion has been raised. Courcelles (talk) 20:30, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

List of songs recorded by Snoop Dogg

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Redundant to Snoop Dogg discography. Koala15 (talk) 15:51, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose. The nominator has given his opinion why the whole of the "List of songs recorded by Foo" may be considered for deletion but has failed to explain why the Snoop Dogg list should be singled out. If the nominator thinks that the category should be deleted he should nominate accordingly, singling out certain artists according to personal taste does not benefit Wikipedia. --Richhoncho (talk) 11:34, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Strong keep: "List of songs..." and "... discography" articles are completely different in content, and one shouldn't be used as the others reasoning for deletion. If it were the case, lists like List of songs recorded by Ariana Grande would be deleted, instead of being granted featured list status. A large majority of the entries are not covered in the discography, and although the article is in dire state, the fact it's an unsourced article is not a viable reason for its deletion, merely a cry for help for a cleanup. Azealia911 _talk 14:30, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to USS Gosselin (APD-126). (non-admin closure) Kraxler (talk) 17:20, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Edward W. Gosselin

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Non-notable person. Fails WP:SOLDIER. Maybe worthy of a small mention at USS Gosselin but does not warrant a whole article. -- Rob Sinden (talk) 15:59, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment This was speedy deleted as A7, but I undeleted it, because the article's derived from Gosselin's appearance in the Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships. People with biographies in definitive reference works shouldn't have their biographies speedy-deleted for lack of importance. Nyttend (talk) 16:09, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: tragedy but not notable per se. Quis separabit? 16:44, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Quis separabit?: Will the purple heart award change any thing here? Mhhossein (talk) 18:09, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Quoting from the Purple Heart article: The Purple Heart is awarded in the name of the President of the United States to any member of the Armed Forces of the United States who, while serving under competent authority in any capacity with one of the U.S. Armed Services after April 5, 1917, has been wounded or killed. It definitely doesn't change anything. I'm leaning toward keeping, but solely because the Navy historians deemed him worthy of inclusion in what's functionally a naval encyclopedia (why should we tell the professional historians that he doesn't belong in an encyclopedia?), not because of the Purple Heart or because he was a ship's namesake. Nyttend (talk) 18:19, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Purple Heart is kind of a big deal. Why wouldn't the article creator include it from the start? Quis separabit? 19:23, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Literally everyone wounded or killed in US military service is awarded the Purple Heart. It's a big deal as far as a sense of honor, but not at all a big deal as far as passing WP:BIO. Nyttend (talk) 20:55, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How about WP:SOLDIER #1 &/or #2 ? Mhhossein (talk) 03:57, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How on earth does the Purple Heart meet that? It isn't even a gallantry decoration at all, let alone the highest gallantry decoration. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:21, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to USS Gosselin. Many people killed at Pearl Harbor had small ships named after them - it doesn't make them notable. As for the Purple Heart, it's just a wound badge. It's awarded to anyone who's been wounded or killed. Is every wounded or killed American serviceman worthy of an article? No, of course they're not. That would be ludicrous, especially as many countries don't even award wound badges at all. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:21, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect - the nominator's rationale seems malformed in that I have no idea how a subject can "fail" WP:SOLDIER (which of cse isn't a rule and is inclusive not exclusive), regardless I cannot see that this poor bloke has enough coverage to meet the requirements of WP:GNG. Consensus seems to be that DANFS isn't enough (although I've been the dissenting opinion on that one before). Merge to the article on the ship that was named in his honour. Anotherclown (talk) 09:30, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merge as has been suggested. Bearian (talk) 01:05, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect: probably the best solution here. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 12:05, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Overview of RESTful API Description Languages

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WP:LISTCRUFT personified. This is no overview, it is a cobbled-together list of disparate IDL languages (REST is an irrelevance to these) that are cherry-picked because their back-end API might be RESTful.

This article conveys nothing to the reader. Andy Dingley (talk) 16:31, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Roger Hilton. MBisanz ^talk 00:40, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Botallack O'Clock

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Apparently non-notable play by redlinked author Eddie Elks; unsourced pseudoarticle written, by astonishing coincidence, by User:Eddieelks. Google shows a couple of reviews in assorted local newspapers (and a single brief review in a national paper), but nothing around which a genuine article could be built. (I don't want to tag-bomb the author, but someone ought to take a long, suspicious look at Third Man Theatre, too.) ‑ iridescent 17:14, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete It could perhaps be merged to the theater. I dont see any independent notability. —Soap— 05:33, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or merge — only viable merge option is to Roger Hilton, upon whom the play is purportedly based, who already is linked to his own page. Quis separabit? 00:44, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Courcelles (talk) 20:31, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Automated BuildStudio

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Clearly the least notable SmartBear Software product being promoted on Wikipedia. Cited only to SmartBear and I can't see any evidence of it being profiled in any reliable secondary sources. There's no claim of it even winning the most minor tech award. Fails WP:GNG. Sionk (talk) 18:52, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Software article of unclear notability, lacking independent references. Only non-company ref is to softpedia, which as a download site is not entirely independent and in any case would not on its own be sufficient to establishing notability. A search turned up no significant WP:RS coverage. Software is discontinued so future RS coverage is unlikely.Dialectric (talk) 18:12, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete agree with reasons above. Old software that is no longer supported; of dubious improtance to users other than developers. References are self-published by maker of software. The article reminds me ofmthe old software manuals one sees at yard sales. Valuable imformation for perhaps one person in a million. New Media Theorist (talk) 15:33, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 17:57, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dean (South Korean singer)

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Fails WP:NMUSIC. An up-and-coming "future R&B artist, multi-platinum songwriter, and producer" who doesn't currently appear to have any substantial claim to notability. Despite working (apparently quite tangentially) with acts like Jennifer Hudson, Justin Bieber, and others, Dean appears to have no substantial coverage in reliable sources. I'll comment further in a moment. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 19:42, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) A few weeks ago the issue of notability was raised on the talk page. I searched through some available online sources at that time:

[44] - seems to be a press release
[45] - the same press release, modified only slightly
[46] - his page on the Joombas website, which says he also goes by "Deanfluenza"

Searching for "deanfluenza" instead, I get:

[47] - about the upcoming release
[48] - about the new release but the same press release as above
listed as a producer at our article Eternity (VIXX song), which is tagged for unreliable references

Another editor provided some more references:

[49] - this is just a music video
[50] - interview with the CEO of "Joombas" who Dean has worked with and is planning his upcoming release with; the label was recently determined at AfD to be non-notable
[51] - the original interview. The editor asserts "Naver is Korean version of yahoo or google. Very reliable source/website" but I don't think we'd consider either of those sites to be reliable. Also, it's the same interview from the last link, with only a couple of passing mentions.
[52] - a blogspot blog
[53] - a write-up in what might be a reliable source, but it's just a track listing

As I said on the talk page, a songwriter who has made a notable contribution to an artist's work should be subject of some kind of independent coverage, and if Dean's upcoming tour to support their recent (or upcoming, not sure) release was at all notable, there would be independent reliable source coverage. But I can't find it. He only seems to have released via iTunes at this point. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 19:56, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Strong delete. As noted above, Dean fails the notability criteria for musicians as well as the general notability guidelines, since he has not gotten significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. —C.Fred (talk) 19:47, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Delete - There doesn't seem to be one single clear source establishing notability here. At the same time, it does seem like maybe searching by his English and Korean nicknames might make a difference. Still, at the end of the day, what remains is puffery that doesn't seem to cross into major notability. He's not won any major awards, been covered by something like Billboard, etc; also, this may be a 'too soon' case given how young the fellow is. I lean toward just scrubbing the article. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 08:37, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Searches using the engines reveal nothing to show the current notability of this person. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:46, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Courcelles (talk) 20:32, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Swedish College of Engineering and Technology (Rahim Yar Khan)

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This college is clearly fake. I couldn't find a single reliable source, and it doesn't appear to be listed on the Higher Education Commission website.[54] Several previous articles with similar names were deleted; their websites are suspicious, such as this vague location page.[55]

I am also nominating the following related page because it's a disambiguation page with only one link:

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I've converted that "dab page" into a redirect (stops it being reported as of interest to the Disambiguation WikiProject). If the article on the college survives deletion it should be moved to the base name as there is no need for disambiguation. PamD 11:23, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment This article and a range of related articles listed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Swedish College of Engineering and Technology (Rahim Yar Khan) seem to have all been deleted in the past and I see nothing improved this time. Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:57, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete it's a copyvio, text was copied/pasted from their official site, also the Pakistan Engineering Council website lists them as accredited with them for 2009 and 2010 only (# 46 and 47), so they are currently not allowed to award degrees, not being listed by the Higher Education Council either. Looks like a fake diploma mill which was found out and struck from the roll after a short time. Kraxler (talk) 17:51, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Courcelles (talk) 20:32, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jennifer E. Flanagan

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Paid press release. No notability except with respect to Actua, which is mildly notable, and the bulk of the material here duplicates the material there. This sort of duplication is a hallmark of promotional editing.

The material is what one would expect in a press release: praise of the organization, unsourced adjectives of praise , appeals to the intrinsic social value of the work, the typical jargon . Long sections of just where she has presented lectures -- and presenting lectures not only doesn't show notability but is usually not even mentioned if the person is actually notable. List of board memberships, which again is not usually worth mentioning. List of organizations where she has volunteered. All of this is essentially puffery . If the person were actually highly notable, the puffery could be removed, but in this case there would be nothing much left.

The refs are mainly about her organization, not her, and most of them are in any case press releases or mere mentions.

There are thousands of articles like this in WP accepted in earlier years when the standards were lower. It may take a long while for us to remove them, but the least we can do is not add to them. Do you want your organization to be a good example, or another bad example? DGG ( talk ) 21:29, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or redirect to Actua as my searches found nothing to suggest better sourcing and improvement. SwisterTwister talk 03:20, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I started going through the references. A number of them have no mention of her, and some do not even mention the company. What I did find with her name was the usual "executive quote" or a name-check. To truly analyze this article all of the irrelevant references would need to be removed so that it would be possible, with a reasonable amount of time invested, to see if there are any reliable sources. I definitely didn't find any. LaMona (talk) 02:26, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect to Actua -- this ain't LinkedIn. Quis separabit? 01:13, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Courcelles (talk) 20:33, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sadkhin Complex

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Inadequate evidence for notability. One article is USA today is not enough for a fad diet. There are a number of press releases in /Google News, but none of them would help. DGG ( talk ) 21:41, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment I found two sources via HighBeam. Have no idea if these are reputable sources.
Los Angeles Sentinel, 2002: [56]

Obesity, Fitness & Wellness Week, 2002: [57]

Until these are evaluated, I don't have an opinion on notability. Brianhe (talk) 02:17, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Los Angeles Sentinel is a mainstream newspaper and as such it should be considered a reliable non-academic third-party source. I never heard about Obesity, Fitness & Wellness Week and I really doubt it has a solid reputation for fact-checking and accuracy like academic and peer-reviewed publications. For sure, none of those two newspapers could be considered a scientific literature, or an authority in the scientific field of nutrition. An example of reliable source, on the topic of diets, is the medical journal Nutrition. Toffanin (talk) 09:03, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I've been looking for sources. It's actually a franchise, so there are franchise disclosure documents and other reports available. None indicate notability. The actual business names are The Sadkhin Complex, Inc. and Sadkhin Franchising Company, LLC. I can't find anything on this business that indicates notability and isn't promotional. Manta (business directory) says "Categorized under Weight Reducing Clubs. Our records show it was established in 2005 and incorporated in New York. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of 110000 and employs a staff of approximately 2" [58]. That fails WP:CORP. John Nagle (talk) 04:46, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I have searched for sources but could only find poor-quality advertorial pieces with zero coverage in books or journals. For a diet that has been around since 1989 it would suggest that it is not notable. SmartSE (talk) 20:51, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete — Despite the claim to be a well established diet since 1989, I was not able to find peer-reviewed publications on PubMed, or other prominent scientific databases, about Sadkhin Complex. No scientific literature exists about the use of acupressure to control hunger. The only sources mentioning this diet are secondary sources talking exclusively about alternative medicine and pseudo-scientific diets. In absence of valid evidences, Sadkhin Complex should be considered quackery, and the WP page shoud be treated according to WP:OR. Toffanin (talk) 08:38, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete. G11, promotional, complete with list of services and list of customers DGG ( talk ) 17:33, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

AMN Healthcare

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My searches are finding more press releases and other non-significant coverage compared to good results even then I still don't think it would be worth the work; my searches here, here, here and here. In addition, there's not one single good link from the currently listed sources and, as an alternative, this could be moved to the best target Steve Francis (businessman). SwisterTwister talk 22:28, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Media_in_Windsor,_Ontario. MBisanz ^talk 00:40, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Windsor Independent

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Fails WP:NMEDIA. Could not find any RS using [59] Article creator appears to be a SPA. Jcmcc (Talk) 23:26, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or redirect to (one of the linking articles) Media_in_Windsor,_Ontario as my searches found absolutely nothing so at best they may only be known through familiar locals. SwisterTwister talk 05:38, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete No attempt is made to comply with any Wikipedia inclusion criteria. Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:59, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 07:26, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Aukfa Industrial Co., LTD

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I found absolutely nothing to suggest improvement (and the website seems to be closed now) and notability and this could've been an easy A7 also given the website seems to closed. SwisterTwister talk 23:29, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - In fact, I think A7 should have been the route taken. I was able to find a single product on Amazon that confirms that it at once was a real company, but there is nothing to support a page in Wikipedia. No WP:RS = No Notability.--TTTommy111 (talk) 06:26, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

TTTommy111 I agree and I was going to but I gave leniency towards any possible Chinese coverage. SwisterTwister talk 06:52, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

SwisterTwister That's nice of you. I guess there is a chance of non-English publications covering them in depth.--TTTommy111 (talk) 00:05, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no indication of notability. -Zanhe (talk) 08:27, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete while it's possible that Chinese sources might exist, I'm not holding my breath for them. Bearian (talk) 00:58, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
delete fails WP:CORP. unless someone comes up with Chinese sources. LibStar (talk) 14:31, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:39, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

LibreSource

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I would've let this go if it wasn't that my searches found no additional sources, with the best results here, here and here. Of the linking articles, I'm not seeing a good move target. SwisterTwister talk 22:34, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Wikipedia has inclusion standards and this article contains no attempts to meet any of them. Blue Rasberry (talk) 19:03, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Source coverage appears to be passing mentions. Sam Walton (talk) 21:43, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:39, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Stitch technologies

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PROD was removed by author with the rationale "Stitch technologies regarding innovations, is a topic that covers a huge area of interest for hobbyist looking to learn references about new techniques based on new technologies, innovations and relevant patents. That is why, I do believe that it should b... [summary was cut]". My original PROD rationale was "Could be merged to another article such as the article on stitching, but either way I don't see how this topic deserves an independent article.". Taking to AfD to gain a wider hearing. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 14:25, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete This article began its life as a promotion for a website, was modified through the AfC process but not accepted, and it looks to me like the person got fed up and just plopped it out here in main space after blanking the draft. The topic of stitches is fully covered in Sewing machine and Machine embroidery. This article seems to be about software for stitching, although that is covered quite thoroughly in the machine embroidery article. This could even be a speedy delete. LaMona (talk) 01:22, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 17:53, 10 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Saera (software)

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No evidence for notability. Creating editor (who deprodded it) describes it on talk page as a "very young project in early stage of development". Appears to be WP:TOOSOON. PamD 08:48, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep This is vote against deletion of Saera article.

Saera intelligent personal assistant is open source what is significant fact as determines way, style, path, speed of development and no marketing activities but sharing information among users in communities. That was what I was meaning with "very young project in early stage of development", but after 4 of development and serving 4 operating systems it is nothing to be WP:TOOSOON.

Saera is of the same kind as Siri for iOS and Cortana for Windows. Because it is open source it has got no huge money in huge marketing departaments to advertise it, hence sources are limited now to mentioned in the article. Yet still it is notable as this is one of widely known intelligent personall asistant for main and of worldwide range OSes, and this is the only one for Linux MeeGo family which means it is significant for users of MeeGo, Sailfish, Maemo, Nemo systems. It is not any accidental file selector or irrelevant library but personal intelligent assistant with AI elements which still is (and note well: and will be during several years or even decades) under development. Hence used "young stage of development" is used in context of open source development but not context of WP:TOOSOON. A time ago the same situation and similar discussion (and also PROD nomination) was about Jolla and Sailfish OS or Jolla Tablet.

Saera (inteligent persona; assistant) ought to be treated in the same way as Siri or Cortana, hence deleting it is not any acceptable compromise. Resources available for open source project supporters or members or enthusiast and time of development of the Saera determines it is not yet as developed as Siri or Cortana ATM, but it is also not WP:TOOSOON already. Those projects, Siri and Cortana, are financed by 2 of the richest corporations all over the World, while Saera by open community only. Deleting Saera would be a discrimination of project developed according to open source standards in favour to collecting in Wikipedia only articles about and related with rich corporations. That would be discrimination because of owned money what would be unequal treating. The article has not been created in early 2011 but in 2015 after 4 years of development and after reached established position of Saera among users. However it doesn't have all features known from Siri or Cortana yet, it is still the same kind of IT tech, and still under development. Saera is functional, ready to use and available for interested in. Verifiable sources has been mentioned, even when there are not many of them still.

Don't delete Saera (intelligent personal assistant).Ocexyz (talk) 19:32, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: have found no independent sources to show notability. Fails WP:GNG and moreover the essay WP:NSOFT. BethNaught (talk) 08:19, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect, the independent source link is #4 Noori, Sepehr James. "Personal Assistant on Jolla and Sailfish OS". http://www.jollausers.com. JollaUsers. Retrieved 10 August 2015. And published a half a year ago, before PROD. Mentioned above policy is fulfilled/complied. Ocexyz (talk) 12:10, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That link is not in-depth and moreover is to encourage people to donate. Still not enough for notability. BethNaught (talk) 12:21, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Keep~~: This is vote against deletion of Saera article. Deletion or moving the article to elsewhere will disable maintining and developing this article. This also would disable other, then me, contributors to improve it. WP:IAR.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ocexyz (talk • contribs)

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Delete: No notable sources. SmackoVector (talk) 05:06, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete All of the sources I could find were on developer sites and they describe a very early stage in the development process. ([60], [61]). This is software on-its-way that needs to be beyond alpha before one can even think about a WP page. Although the development process may have been years, the page should wait until the software is deployed. LaMona (talk) 18:55, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ You metioned 2 sources, not all. Other sources from different languages shows this project is notable for wide range of readers and users from different languages and cultures. It hits very many and different people. So is notlable for many nations, meaning its members, not all nations. Software is in complete and functional/useabe stage as such, hence finished/deployed at the current state. Alpha stage means it is available only for developer{s) and not for practical use by common user - Saera is available for common user, and in the same time open repos are available for all who want to take part and contribute to the project, because it is open source. in the same time expectations and hopes from users reflects it is compared with other more advanced projects. But it is false thinking that such a project will ever have any particular and definable level, even after years. And Wikipedia reflects current state not any future hopes how it will look like in years. Following that logic both MS Word and Apple Siri articles ought to be deleted as they are still in development and will have different shape/stage/deployment in a time, different then it is now, now they are in alpha stage from this point of view. This lead to discrimination of all important projects that are not supported with huge money for marketing by big companies. I think your approach is not objective but "contaminated" with reflections from other similar projects, but unrelated to Saera IPS. Although I still believe in your good will. NB: above I have voted against deletion already, so I inform to avoid misunderstandings or something against correctness in discussion. Ocexyz (talk) 16:34, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to above: please note that Saera is open source what mean it has more developers/coders then one only, but all followers who develops the projects will recall first developer so at first look it may be an impression this is one person while this will be more persons who work with open source code and who shows first developer in front to make easier identification of project and to comply habits / good behaviour used in that scene. Note the projects hits many Linux platforms (Maemo, MeeGo, Sailfish) which are different OSes, users of many languages so many countries, many developers, and many people who decides this is so important / notable that notification about Saera is shared in the internet. What also makes this notable, no meter what stage of development it is ATM. Ocexyz (talk) 06:23, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ocexyz, the criteria that must be met is at wp:Notability (software). No amount of other arguments will have an affect on the outcome of the AfD process. Basically, you have to establish the significance of this software through reliable sources. Continuing to argue on other points does not help your case; in fact, it tends to show that you do not understand the WP process. Read up on the guidelines for software and look for sources that will support your case. Also, I note that you have created many pages with inter-related "see also" links (Sailfish_OS, MeeGo, Jolla, etc.). If you are directly involved with these projects then you should look at the conflict of interest guidelines to make sure that you are operating within that policy. LaMona (talk) 23:57, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

LaMona, I can't do more then searching and adding new sources, what I am doing. I am not involved in any of those projects, I observe them from the very beginning and also many others, and I am not in any situation of conflict of interests. That is MeeGo ecosystem which implies from Nokia N9 and MeeGo where also you can find some my contributions. Mentioned by you "see also" are related articles, as parts of ecosystems or in other ways, a background. Ocexyz (talk) 12:45, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: I'm a massive fan of software freedom, so I hope this project becomes notable some day, but right now, it is very far from being notable. --Slashme (talk) 22:53, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Nothing approaching multiple independent reliable sources directly detailing the subject. Until we have that, delete. BusterD (talk) 04:15, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. As per nom and above editors. Searches didn't reveal anything which would indicate that this passes the notability criteria. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 16:27, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to The Collection (film). MBisanz ^talk 00:39, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Randall Archer

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Only references are to IMDb and an primary-source interview, which do not establish notability. Conifer (talk) 07:38, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to The Collection (film). So far he's only known for one film, and that's The Collection. He's not particularly well known for this role, at least not in the way where Robert Englund is known for portraying Freddy, so he wouldn't warrant inclusion on that basis either. He's done quite a bit of work as a stunt performer, but then it's also expected that a stunt performer will seek out work. The amount of roles/work doesn't automatically mean that someone will pass notability guidelines, but it does make it more likely that there will be coverage. Unfortunately for Archer, he never gained any coverage to speak of. Of the sources that were in the article, one was IMDb (which is unusable as a RS) and a blog. The blog looks to be your typical self-published source, meaning that it's not usable as a RS on Wikipedia. (I have heard of this blog before and like it, but it's still not usable as a RS.) Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 08:02, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Tokyogirl79, I understand what you are saying and where you are coming from, and I respect that. But I recently found an article in The New York Times "Movies & TV" here take a look.--> http://www.nytimes.com/movies/person/1345009/Randall-Archer I will add this to the cited sources. But I really don't want this page deleted. I will continue to improve it a find reliable sources/info and such. So I really, really don't want it deleted. :( BlueFlame101 (talk) 17:58, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't an article, it's part of a database run by the New York Times, hosted on their database. The thing about database listings is that they're considered routine, especially since most of them are created by information supplied by the actor or their representation. It's not considered to be the equivalent of an actual newspaper article. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 03:22, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. @Tokyogirl79 Oh, I was mistaken then, thank you for clarifying this. It seemed like it is that's what I originally thought but now seeing it I understand it isn't an article, I wasn't sure. On another note if you don't mind me asking I am slightly stuck on this, what information would I need to find and present in order to be able to keep the page up? (which I would really like to do that's my best intention) But, I mean if it is deleted can I still come back and recreate the page at a later time when he has a lot more notability and resources of it? (Because he is still an upcoming/rising Stunt Performer/Actor) He does have notability though for his work as a Stunt Performer and small notability as an Actor. But overall he is very notable in a sense, there are groups and fans of his work and such. But overall I really would like to keep the page as I said before that is my best intention, is to keep the page. I also believe that the page should be kept and not deleted. Thank you, ☺ BlueFlame101 (talk) 17:53, 11 August 2015 (UTC) User:BlueFlame101 is the creator of this article. Disclosure added per WP:AFDFORMAT.[reply]

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Comment: Notability can only be proven through coverage in independent and reliable sources. As far as his work as a stunt performer, you have to show where these roles were notable. It's generally expected that someone will be employed in their chosen field, so just performing as a stunt worker is not enough. Right now what you need is coverage in places like newspapers and reviews that specifically mention him in roles other than in the Collection film. So far it looks like he's only known for the one film and his other roles haven't garnered coverage to the point where he'd warrant his own entry. As for re-creation, you can seek recreation in the future if he has another role of this caliber, where he's a visible role (ie, he's a major character with screen time and not just another stunt performer) and where the film has received enough coverage to warrant an article. If he has a major role in a TV series (reoccurring role, major screen time, notable series) then that'd count as well. However him performing as a stunt worker wouldn't really qualify unless he's gained coverage, since most stunt performers never really gain any coverage unless they happen to be lucky enough to capture the public eye. (For every one that does, there's usually 100 that don't.) However in that instance you'd probably need to ask the closing admin if you can restore the page and if they decline, go through WP:DRV. In either situation you'd have to show where he's gained the additional coverage. Establishing notability for the other works is usually the easiest way to go about this since it's easier to show that a film is notable and if the star is a major character, then that'd show notability for the performer. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 03:58, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to The Collection (film) or delete. The problem with the "up and coming, rising, next big thing" is that these people generally aren't there yet. We'll still be here when he's making headlines in Variety and Entertainment Weekly. That's the time to create an article. Keep an eye out for more coverage and maybe go through WP:AFC when you recreate the article. Right now, I think it's still too soon. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:08, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. There are more keep than delete !votes but arguments and sources are weak. (non-admin closure) Kraxler (talk) 18:16, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thom Serafin

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promotional article for a press agent. "regularly appears" is not notability, and refs to that are mere notices. DGG ( talk ) 03:23, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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weak delete This person has gotten some press, but I only find two articles here that are about him - the article saying that he will be a commencement speaker in the Univ Illinois Springfield school paper, and an article in Crain's. All of the other articles are about other people, mainly candidates, and the articles quote him or speak about him in a few sentences. LaMona (talk) 01:46, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There are actually four articles about him here: the one concerning the UIS commencement address, the Crain's profile, the Patch profile, and the Chicago Sun-Times profile. I just added mention of a large holiday party thrown by Serafin every year that always attracts the "whos-who" in Chicago. What's unique about this party is that it is always attended by reps from both sides of political and ideological aisle. I have added more references to the page. - HayMerchant (talk) 06:20, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Keep~~ I have added another reference from a 1984 Sun-Times article on Serafin's campaign tactics and their effectiveness. I believe there are more sources to be found, and according to WP:NRVE, notability depends on the existence of sources. Given more time, I believe contributors will continue to edit and add to Serafin's page. HayMerchant (talk) 06:53, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep there appears to be an interested editor and notability is established with the Crain's and NYTimes refs.009o9 (talk) 21:14, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I agree that the Crain's and New York Times references establish WP:GNG. Thanks. Safehaven86 (talk) 02:54, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:38, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia CEE Meeting

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Does not look like notable yet. The only two non-wikimedia affiliated sources provided are re-posts of Wikimedia Ukraine's press-relise . --ᛒᚨᛊᛖ (ᛏᚨᛚᚲ) 03:20, 10 August 2015 (UTC) ᛒᚨᛊᛖ (ᛏᚨᛚᚲ) 03:20, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as per nom. Searches on all engines produced zero hits. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:32, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete because of lack of independent media coverage. This probably should be copied to Meta Wiki as a record of the event. Post to meta:Wikimedia Central and Eastern Europe saying that it was copied from here. Blue Rasberry (talk) 19:02, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 06:50, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Turkey frills

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Not significant, was already covered in Turkey meat. ɱ (talk · vbm) 15:05, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per WP:NOTDIC. A mention in Turkey meat is sufficient. --Djembayz (talk) 12:06, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per above. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 14:26, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect to Turkey meat: As-is it's only a dictionary definition. Unless someone can supply sources to write an encyclopedia article on this, it can't be kept.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:31, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - this is completely trivial; I'm calling for snow this Thanksgiving. Bearian (talk) 03:22, 12 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to List of Home and Away characters (2012). MBisanz ^talk 00:38, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just a quick note I've changed the redirect target to "List of Home and Away characters (2012)" as simply redirecting to Home & Away is pretty much useless. –Davey2010^Talk 04:01, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Emma Leonard

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Fails NACTOR & GNG, Except this [62] I can't find anything on this BLP at all, Could be redirected to Home and Away but she's only been in that for 30 eps so kinda pointless IMHO. –Davey2010^Talk 14:31, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Home and Away or delete. I guess there are a few trivial mentions scattered about, such as this and this, but it's not really enough to hold up a BLP by itself. Seems a bit too soon. I agree that a redirect isn't exactly a brilliant solution, but maybe new sources will show up eventually. If people prefer to delete, that's alright with me, too. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:21, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Maybe delete for now as she's not actually mentioned at Home and Away and only at List of characters of Home and Away and my searches found nothing good. SwisterTwister talk 07:16, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Nothing in the searches helps establish this person's notability. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:58, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Fame (1982 TV series). I don't usually close on one !vote but it does kinda make sense just to redirect considering Fame is by far his most successful show, I'm more or less convinced others would go with redirect so redirect it shall be. (non-admin closure) –Davey2010^Talk 01:11, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Carlo Imperato

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Delete: as non-notable actor. Quis separabit? 14:11, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Fame (TV series) for now instead and although he's not independently notable, over 100 episodes is acceptable and he's best known for that it seems. My searches found this and this along with some TV books at Books so there's not much to suggest better improvement. SwisterTwister talk 07:23, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Mkdw ^talk 03:19, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ajith Mathew

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URLs used for References are bare URLs and there's no importance of the article. The Page creator is creating pages by submitting invalid URLs to confuse the Wikipedia. I removed the bare URLs submitted by the article creator on this article, still it doesn't shows any importance on Wikipedia. So I'm requesting to delete these kind of pages from Wikipedia, also please block the user from creating these kinds of articles. Josu4u (talk) 13:30, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment First, let's assume good faith on the part of the creator. I don't have access to Indian media, so I can't really check sources on this. There is an article for the subject's album, Yelove. That article relies overly on Facebook and Youtube, unfortunately. This person is not the "star" of that album and video, but the music director. Achieving notability seems unlikely. LaMona (talk) 15:14, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. The information given in the article is not enough for notability DGG ( talk ) 18:36, 12 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (WP:NPASR). North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 10:08, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Scorpio (Trax song)

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No indication on either this page or the first 100 Google results that this meets WP:NSONG. Laun chba ller 13:21, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to 2015 Chinese stock market crash. No discrimination against a merge but 2015 Chinese stock market crash already had a brief section about black Monday and overall responses. Mkdw ^talk 16:12, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Chinese black monday

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Can see no reason (as yet) for this to exist as an article separate from 2015 Chinese stock market crash, in my opinion a story with a long way to go. There may well be blacker Mondays or indeed Wednesdays ahead. Black Monday is merely the headline created by a very unimaginative sub-editor, which is why I do not think this worthy of a redirect. TheLongTone (talk) 12:54, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Re-name Black Monday 2015 Chinese state media is calling it "Black Monday". International commentators starting to call it Black Monday as hundreds of billions of notable dollars go down toilet. Suggest name change discussion more appropriate than deletion. Guru Noel (talk) 18:09, 24 August 2015 (UTC) 18:08, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Probably Renamed Simply as Black Monday or Merged with Chinese Stock Market Crash I dont know put it could Renamed as Black Monday that right now that also effect outside of China as well, However its only create Positive effect on Oil to decreased prices for short time? 2606:A000:85E7:4E00:6DC0:1FC6:C31:B6E7 (talk) 19:01, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOTNEWS - worth a paragraph in the existing article 2015 Chinese stock market crash, but no more than that. We don't create an article every time a stock market somewhere drops or rises by a few percent points. -Zanhe (talk) 08:24, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hang fire for now This may not even be the worst day. The article is premature, but we have articles on such days on Wall Street, so likely we will eventually have one on this day. User:Fred Bauder Talk 08:37, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hang fire for now - its too early to tell whether the event is notable. Review after two weeks. Then most likely then merge with Chinese Stock Market Crash 2015.Jonpatterns (talk) 09:07, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Zanhe. 61.3.106.89 (talk) 10:14, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment They call it Stormy Monday, but Tuesday's just as bad. Wednesday's worse.... I can't really see the point of a standalone article: this day is so obviouisly part of a larger story that a standalone would have to include much material from 2015 Chinese stock market crash to make any sense. As for Black Monday....Clichegate.TheLongTone (talk) 13:07, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to 2015 Chinese stock market crash: Currently serves as a content fork. There isn't a reason to have separate pages when the later events can be placed in an article subsection. --benlisquare_T•C•E 11:09, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hang fire for now per Fred Bauder and Jonpatterns. Notability (or lack thereof) of the subject would be clearer in 2-3 weeks. --Joshua Issac (talk) 15:09, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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- Not in any substantial way, however this particular subject is a good example of one that might be, as panic is not a good thing; press coverage is muted in China, by government directive. User:Fred Bauder Talk 16:28, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to 2015 Chinese stock market crash , this is an unnecessary fork. --Tom (LT) (talk) 04:07, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Agree with Zanhe and with Tom's comments above. Quantumavik (talk) 04:23, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and I would support expansion into how it impacted global markets... considering how the DJIA lost over 1000 points in 3 days and then kept falling for several days after that, this is more than just China's bad day. MPS (talk) 15:34, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@MPS: There's already an article, 2015 stock market selloff, about the global selloff (which has more info about Black Monday than the stub we're discussing). And there is 2015 Chinese stock market crash about the Chinese crash; both articles are relatively well developed. We don't need a third article about the same event. -Zanhe (talk) 19:32, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. WP:BURDEN not met to demonstrate this individual meets our notability standards. No discrimination against recreation if WP:SIGCOV can be established. Mkdw ^talk 03:15, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Anthony John Barbar

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Procedural nomination -- I declined speedy deletion. I found that this swimmer recently set the national record for Lebanon for the 50 metre butterfly. Jujutacular (talk) 12:36, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Note there is no procedural requirement to AfD declined speedies (thank goodness). All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 14:23, 24 August 2015 (UTC).[reply]

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Delete this is a person from Boca Raton, Florida who swam for Lebanon because he couldn't get on the American team, ok, but he didn't win any medals and there is a single event with WP:ROUTINE sports coverage. I don't think there's any guideline that says that national record holders of any swimming discipline are inherently notable, and I see mostly red links at List of Lebanese records in swimming. The subject clearly fails WP:NSPORT and WP:GNG Kraxler (talk) 18:57, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Wikipedia is not a guide or means of advertisement. WP:OTHERSTUFF also prevails. Mkdw ^talk 03:14, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Glendower Residence

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Non-notable building. Wikipedia is not a university prospectus. TheLongTone (talk) 12:35, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Entirely agree with nominator. This promotional and informational material is only relevant to students and staff of the university. It belongs on the university's own web site, not here.New Media Theorist (talk) 15:28, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This page serves as the only place on the internet that people (including current and prospective students) can learn about the Residence. There is a large number of pages about university residences on Wikipedia. This includes Smuts Hall, Morrissey Hall (University of Notre Dame), Residence halls at the University of San Francisco and Sandburg Halls only to mention a few but all these pages, in one way or another, serve the exact same purpose. We should rather discuss how pages with the issues raised could be improved. Tino1b2be (talk) 13:02, 6 September 2015 (CAT)

Reply Tino1b2be, it's odd you say it's the only page on the Internet, as I found this page on the Glendower residence in about two seconds. I also wondered what it looked like inside and outside and found it here a few seconds later. So clearly this article is not the only page on the Internet about Glendower Residence. Wikipedia is not here to promote residences to potential students (the only people who are allowed into them): that's the University's job. Notability is the important criteria, and this place is not notable.New Media Theorist (talk) 03:30, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Reply New Media Theorist The examples you pointed out on the UCT pages gives no detailed information on the residence but only basic information like date of establishment and contact details. When I got accepted to the university, I had no idea what to expect at the residence I was allocated to. This is the reason why I found it necessary to create this page and create an on-line presence for the residence. It's now fairly easy to find it when you do a Google search. Not only will this page be useful for UCT students, but also visitors to the residence when it hosts events in which notable people like [[Graça Machel] and Honourable Justice Edwin Cameron are invited to attend. A residence that is visited by such high profile individuals in my opinion is notable in its own respect. According to your argument, we might as well remove all residence hall pages on Wikipedia. Tino1b2be (talk) 21:23, 7 September 2015 (CAT)

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Reply Yes it sounds like the university needs to expand its coverage! Having worked for a few universities, I know it's brutally difficult to get them to do such things. However Wikipedia is not the place for this, as the building is non-notable. Promoting its non-notable resources to future students is not the job of a global encyclopedia, it's the job of the University. Wikipedia is not a web hosting service for non-notable items like this. New Media Theorist (talk) 19:32, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. There's quite a bit of in-depth coverage in the mainstream press, and no real argument for deletion has been put forward by any of the !voters. (non-admin closure) Kraxler (talk) 17:45, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mysmartprice

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Another startup whose coverage is limited to the fact they received funding, in media that covers that. Claims like "ranked 16th in list of 25 best" and "9th Asian startup" and so on are just scraping the bottom of the notability barrel. Fails WP:CORPDEPTH. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 18:47, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.205.250.157 (talk) 19:11, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Added links on the page to news sources that are entirely about the start-up and not at all about its funding. Check them out and see if they satisfy WP:CORPDEPTH:

http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2014-10-31/news/55631406_1_price-range-users-sulakshan-kumar

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/features/shop-smart-let-this-online-platform-get-you-the-best-price/article6258025.ece

http://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/mysmartprice-aims-to-double-gross-merchandise-value-from-next-year-114091500387_1.html

I think they do, but I could be wrong. 49.205.250.157 (talk) 20:59, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Uncertain but ultimately draft & userfy for now (delete for now) - This has gotten considerable, searches here (starts fading by page nine but these are the best results of all), here, here, here and here. I thought of "weak keeping" but all in all, this may still be incidental coverage and we can wait until there's a little better. SwisterTwister talk 22:16, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

~~*Keep~~ The startup gets as much coverage online as is possible here in India and does feature quite a bit on paper. It might also be worth considering that the website is the top price comparison website in India and is much more popular (ranked 95th on alexa in India) than closest competitor Jungee (291st on alexa in India) by Amazon.com. So considering this and the reasonable amount of coverage online, I'd still suggest to keep the page. 49.205.250.157 (talk) 23:46, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per the extensive coverage in reliable sources provided by 49.205.250.157 (talk · contribs) above. The articles in The Economic Times, Business Line, and Business Standard provide substantial coverage about the subject so that Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline is met. Cunard (talk) 06:28, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete. G11, purely promotional DGG ( talk ) 00:22, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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BLP PRODs reverted by article creator, who also seems to be the subject himself or someone with WP:COI. No notability asserted. Basic net search on Google does return some Page 3 culture entries but nothing worth passing WP:CREATIVE or WP:GNG. Note: Many Himmat Singhs, politicians, golfers, cricketers, etc. are found on internet. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:30, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:38, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Neuber Software GmbH

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Non-notable company (no in-depth sources found). Some of their products may be notable, but those have separate articles and WP:NOTINHERITED applies. Note: I have already cleaned up a previous product catalog with EL spam (see history). GermanJoe (talk) 11:19, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete unfortunately as although they've gotten some coverage here and there, it's ultimately not enough and my searches found nothing better with PR and other minor stuff here. SwisterTwister talk 23:34, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not enough coverage for notability. — Ben Ben ^(talk) 19:06, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Railways in Sydney. Stifle (talk) 12:28, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sydney underground railways

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The purpose of this page is unclear. It doesn't contain any unique information, instead providing a summary of information on discrete elements of the Sydney rail network. This creates a problem in keeping the information up-to-date. From the history, it appears the original concept behind this page was to provide information on urban caving in Sydney more than anything else – hardly encyclopaedic. Unlike London, Sydney lacks a separate "underground" railway system – many suburban lines are partially in tunnel. Mqst north (talk) 11:01, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep The article would certainly benefit from a better title and a general spruce up, but the topic is clearly viable: lots has been written about the underground stations, underground components of the various lines, and the proposals to build new underground/semi-underground lines. Nick-D (talk) 11:47, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Certainly it is a viable topic, but every topic you list above has a more logical home: the station articles, the line articles, and Proposed railways in Sydney. Separating that information out here doesn't add to the reader's understanding of the topic: at best – and the article is clearly not in this state – it is a collection of content duplicated from other articles. Mqst north (talk) 11:59, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep No real deletion nomination has been supplied. "This creates a problem in keeping the information up-to-date." So what? EVERY article can suffer with this. If the content should be merged, then suggest it on the relevant talkpages/projects. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 17:05, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Please read my entire nomination above: the main point is that this article contains no unique content. Mqst north (talk) 20:02, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Railways in Sydney is the correct article for this information. There is no need for a separate article for lines that happened to be built underground. Gareth (talk) 02:13, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment the information is mostly duplicated at Railways in Sydney#Underground sections and Railways in Sydney#Disused tunnels. The only question here is: Should this info remain at Railways in Sydney and the subject of this AfD be merged/redirected to there; or should the info be splitted to this article, and the two sections at Railways in Sydney have only a short sentence and a "main article" template directing the reader here. Please comment. Kraxler (talk) 18:45, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Railways in Sydney. Majority of information is already there anyway, and there is no compelling need to keep this information split in multiple separate articles.--Staberinde (talk) 15:34, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Railways_in_Sydney#Underground_sections. There are no sources that discuss this particular subject particularly. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:59, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Railways in Sydney. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:13, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:38, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Facial water

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Once the spam is stripped out, there's nothing left. This product is self-evidently a waste of money but I don't think we have any evidence that it's a notable waste of money. Guy (Help!) 10:14, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I've been itching to start an Afd for a while now. The problem is that the term means whatever a given manufacturer wants us to think it means. Other than the fact that multiple manufacturers have glommed onto the same term, making it a generic, it's no different from any other meaningless fake quality that individual manufacturers attribute to their products, as exemplified by Firesign Theatre's one-liner about Ersatz Brothers Coffee, with "Zest Appeal". So, for any given explanation the article might give as to what it is, we'd have a verifiability problem, in connection with an independent reliable source problem.

We could say that the phrase itself is notable as a marketing term, and write an article from that perspective. But I was just trying to identify sources that look at it from that perspective and came up empty-handed. —Largo Plazo (talk) 13:16, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, not notable and Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Kierzek (talk) 13:24, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Without taking a position at this time about whether the article should be deleted, I'd like to point out that the article formerly contained five references; the nominator stripped out four of them before nominating the remaining stub for deletion. The article as it used to be can be seen here. --MelanieN (talk) 17:13, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Following up on those, the phrase "facial water" appears in only one of the references. The rest discuss "facial spray", "facial mist", or "facial lotion", but not one of them speaks of the water content of these products as being something one would call "facial water". One of them discusses "thermal water", saying nothing more about it than that it's water from thermal springs. It notes that thermal water is full of minerals. Minerals? In other words, hard water—which is one of the things that the earlier version of the article said is bad for the skin. "Facial water" should contain minerals, but it shouldn't contain minerals. Clearly, the whole concept is fuzzy and subjective and even contradictory. There's no substance to it. —Largo Plazo (talk) 18:00, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I have to admit that I'm a little leery of this, given that this article had been previously created by Sibtain 007 sockpuppets. I'm also unsure as to whether or not the disclosure on the talk page means to say that this was created by someone acting as a paid editor, possibly for the same people who hired Sibtain 007 to create the article in the first place. I almost hate to mention this, but if this is the case then that poses a pretty big issue here if Largo is correct and this was created with faulty sources that do not back up the content. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:03, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Here's the article before sources and content were stripped from it. I have to admit that my feelings of leeriness are increasing since the article does twist words around. Here's my rundown of the sources and what they claimed in the article.

Oprah. This is an advice column and that's not really the strongest source out there, if it can be used as a source at all. It was being used to back up a quotes by Leslie Baumann. However what bothers me is that these are quotes taken from someone else quoting the doctor and the quotes were used to laud the ability to use facial water. The tone of the advice column is actually relatively negative since the advisor is fairly dismissive of the claims. This is included in the article but is given only one sentence whereas the quotes by Baumann take up a good portion of the article. In other words, the negative stuff was deliberately downplayed in order to play up the good things to be said about the product.
Fashionista. This is a semi-brief article reviewing several facial moisturizing products, some of which would somewhat fall under this criteria. It wasn't written by a staff member, but there does seem to be an editorial board. This one is somewhat usable, but it's far from the strongest source. The thing to take into consideration here is that many of these wouldn't necessarily fall under the idea of "facial water" since some of them seem to label themselves more as moisturizers than specifically facial water.
Living Green Mag. This one is one that I wouldn't consider a RS, to be honest. It's ultimately a how to guide on creating your own sprays. There does seem to be some editorial control, but it's hard to say how much is really done since their editorial guidelines give off the impression that if they have to edit it, they won't post it.
Style Bistro. This is kind of what Largo meant by being vague. The article talks about thermal water and while it does say you can spritz it on your face, it's kind of vague in that it looks like you can spray it anywhere you wish. Now what's most concerning about this is that while the article does quote a study, the study does not appear to be about facial misting but about mineral water in general - however it's used in the WP article in such a manner that it gives off the impression that the study endorses the use of facial or thermal water.
PopSugar. This is an article about travel tips in general and while the face mist is given a paragraph, it's not particularly in depth. It's ultimately an opinion article where one person gives their own personal list of tips for traveling. The WP article quotes the person.
China Radio International. I initially wasn't going to say that this was a RS, but apparently it's legit. Still, it's not the strongest source to go on. This one is critical of facial water and while its used in the WP article in a subsection, this was given an extremely small section. This wouldn't be so awful except that when you consider that you have a large two paragraph section extolling the virtues of facial water...

Basically, I can see why these were removed and if this is to be kept in any form, they'd have to be 86'd because this is pretty much a good example as to why people argue so stringently against paid editors. A large bulk of the article was devoted to promoting the product and saying nice things about it, even to the point where a few of the things quoted could be construed as being taken out of context, such as the case study. Unless someone can pull up the study and show where it would specifically endorse facial water, using it in the article is sort of false advertising or at the very least, something done for pure promotion. What also bothers me here is that if we were to boil this down to the barest essentials (moreso than what's currently on the article), ultimately what we'd have is a 2-4 sentence article that says "Some companies are selling facial misting products as beauty products that can treat skin. While there have been some who have praised the product, others have criticized it as a potential scam." That's pretty much all that needs to be said about this based on the current sources. I'd suggest merging it into another article, but this doesn't really have a good redirect target. The best would probably be something like toner or moisturizer (since natural skin care is so general that content about specific topics wouldn't really fit in well), but part of the issue is that this product's claims are so incredibly vague that it doesn't fit in well anywhere. Unless I can find some extremely great sources out there, I'm leaning towards a delete and salt, with the strict requirement that if this is recreated, it is only by someone who is absolutely and completely 200% not a paid editor. I hate to sound mean, but the impression I'm getting here is that while Sibtain 007 may have had their socks blocked, they just found another way around the issue by getting an existing Wikipedia editor to re-add the content. While the newest version of the article was more neutral, it was still promotional (meaning that I'm almost 80% sure that the article was tailored to what the client wanted for the most part since while it's less promotional, the same claims are ultimately still there in the article for the most part) and there were some definite issues with how the sources were used. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:00, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:37, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Corrib Light Rail

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OTRS has received a request for this article's deletion at ticket:2015081810026316. The request comes from Brain Guckian, who is the originator of the Corrib Light Rail plan. He asks that the article be deleted "on the basis that the proposal is now out of date, has been superceded by other light rail proposals for Galway, Ireland and therefore the content is no longer useful, relevant or appropriate. In addition, on a secondary basis that the content is heavily vandalised and not in any way representative of the original article or proposal." Now, of course WP:NTEMP, but I agree that the page should be deleted, rather on the basis that Corrib Light Rail was never notable, even when the project was still up in the air. In my searches online, I find no reliable secondary sources to establish that this subject passes WP:N, and the abandoned state of this project means that no new sources are going to appear. I note that most of the sources used in the current article are not specifically about Corrib Light Rail, but rail projects in this part of Ireland in general. It may be worth the smallest mention in other articles about light rail systems in the area, but I do not think it requires its own page. Someguy1221 (talk) 10:13, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Non-notable transit proposal. Mackensen (talk) 11:40, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Per nom. Me5000 (talk) 13:45, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete and replace with a disambiguation page as Mark viking suggests. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:13, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Order of a polynomial

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The title is usurpatory, as it has several common meanings, none corresponding to the content of the article. This cannot be solved by moving the article, because of the multiple issues listed in the talk page: the concept is not well defined. The only possible definition that fits the examples is not a property of the polynomial, but of an auxiliary basis. The article refers to a unique source, which is a book about splines, a different subject. It seems that the article is a WP:OR tentative to generalize the well defined notion of "order of of a spline interpolation", which is based on a misunderstanding of this notion. In any case, the article content is either WP:OR or non-notable, and, thus, cannot be saved for making an encyclopedic article. D.Lazard (talk) 10:02, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment In spline theory, the order of a spline is a well-defined concept; it is the number of knots needed to define a spline. I think this was de Boor's use of the term. In the more general case of polynomials, order is sometimes used as a synonym for degree. There is also the multiplicative order of a polynomial. Given the different uses of the term, it may be better to turn this into a disambiguation page. --Mark viking (talk) 17:57, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Incoherent, and apparently OR. There might be several notions of the "order of a polynomial", but they are not what is described in this article. --Sammy1339 (talk) 02:37, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. A disambiguation page for this title makes sense, but I do not know what to do with the contents of this page. A delete seems to be the cleanest way to make room for a proper page. Bill Cherowitzo (talk) 17:14, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I don't use mathematics professionally, but enjoy playing about. The term 'order of a polynomial' was familiar to me from high-school maths 20 years ago, and seemed to more or less match the definition given in the article; I understand from the discussion above that this should be referred to as the 'degree', but acknowledging the difference in use around the world is worthwhile. I note that Wolfram uses order of a polynomial in the same sense that this page intends. So, I'm argue for retaining it.Klbrain (talk) 22:07, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Look a little more closely at this page. In the example given, a degree one polynomial has order n, thus degree and order are not being used as synonyms contrary to what Wolfram is saying. The fact that the article led you astray speaks against keeping it.Bill Cherowitzo (talk) 22:30, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, not well-defined and not commonly used. After deletion, create a redirect to Degree of a polynomial. —Kusma (t·c) 09:43, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I guess this article is meant to be about the order of approximation, in the sense that x is a second-order approximation to sin(x) for small x (even though it is of first degree). I don't think this usage deserves its own article, though. --JBL (talk) 13:09, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as OR. de Boor defines a polynomial of order n to be a polynomial of degree n − 1. There is no mention of a basis like in the article. Ozob (talk) 14:36, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I'm not sure why this was relisted twice. Consensus seems pretty clearly to indicate deletion. But in case a raw tally of votes is needed to push this solidly over some imaginary edge: delete. Sławomir
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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:37, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Typemock

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This article was nominated once before and went no-consensus with very little input. The debate was probably complicated by the fact that the article was apparently created as part of a "pay us or we nuke your article" scam. The problem is that this is a very small private company (which does not appear to meet WP:CORP) and while it has superficial referenciness, the references themselves are not independent - all of them appear to be churnalism, just press releases published in the outer corners of the trade press. There's nothing substantial here, no real evidence of notability, and the article itself is written like an advert by a WP:SPA. Guy (Help!) 09:58, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - doesn't meet notability criteria for companies. --bonadea contributions talk 13:27, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete For the same reasons I gave in the previous AFD. This doesn't meet GNG, as neither do the vast majority of software libraries. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 16:09, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Website was widely spammed in 2008 - see MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist#typemock.com. Little evidence of notability. -- Callinus (talk) 23:14, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete unfortunately as my searches found no good coverage instead this, this, this and this. SwisterTwister talk 23:28, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep very important for software developers, appearing in 500 technical books this should be GNG. in previous Afd This source looks reasonable to CorporateM and "The Art of Unit Testing" Osherove, Roy (2009). "How frameworks like Typemock work". The art of unit testing. Manning. ISBN 978-1-933988-27-6. was confirmed by Colapeninsula. Typemock is not just a library it is a company that has products that generate Unit Tests. And what happened in 2008 is in internet years - ages ago - it is not relevant for this discussion Elilopian (talk) 13:21, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep stackoverflow is an objective software development community that demonstrates the relevance of Typemock in the computers world this is just one example. Typemock page on Wikipedia can hold educational value for cs students and developers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gikipedian (talk • contribs) 13:45, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:37, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Kurt Phyll

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This was originally a PROD, rationale was that this player fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. The PROD was contested on the basis that another Wikipedia article makes an unsourced assertion of notability - but that claim is simply not correct. There is no evidence of notability here at all. Giant Snowman 09:51, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Fails WP:NFOOTY as has not played senior international football nor played in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Fenix down (talk) 11:19, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, not notable. Kierzek (talk) 13:25, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Commment - The website [63] isn't entirely conclusive, as it doesn't have some older matches, including those from 2001 Caribbean Cup and The Other Final where was reported that Kurt Phyll was named to the 14-man final squad to travel to Bhutan. [64]. While I've seen no evidence that he did play, I've also not seen a line-up from that match, or other matches. He did sit on the bench for at least 3 later matches (all of the 2004 and 2008 World Cup qualifying matches). We need to find match reports from the earlier matches to determine if he has played in some of the earlier matches. Nfitz (talk) 14:17, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Absent sources confirming it, we cannot assume he has played for Montserrat, meaning the article fails WP:NSPORT and WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 17:37, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTY. Phyll has only made it as far as a substitute in a number of games as per sources on Soccerway, the Caribbean Football Database and FIFA website. I did have a copy of The Other Final on DVD but have no idea where it is these days - althought I'm pretty sure there is a copy on YouTube if you want to trawl through. --Jimbo^[online] 13:06, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I've trawled through a bit of it on Youtube. It looks stunningly beautiful to watch! But I've seen no clear indication of line-ups. And I found the person who had added the stat of his "start" who thinks he may have erred in adding that. So no evidence of a start. Though if you look at those sources you've listed, they don't include all the matches - the absense of some Carribean Cup tournaments in the records (let alone friendlies) for that period is troubling. I've no where left to look though. Nfitz (talk) 15:29, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Hill International. (non-admin closure) Kraxler (talk) 18:19, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

David Richter

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The references are all non-independent sources, interviews, or non-significant coverage such as routine notifications of hirings and promotion and directory listings. Article was created by a SPA and sockpuppet that only edits articles related to Hill International, their employees, and Construction Management. I would support a redirect to Hill International. --Ahecht (TALK
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stuartwilks (talk) Although the author (who has declared their interest in the company) is an employee of Hill (as am I), it seems to me that the page bears little difference to other similar pages for CEO's of major US companies - such as John Veihmeyer - there is a category "American Chief Executives" which it seems to me the page might usefully sit within? Whilst I appreciate the notion of the 'sockpuppet' writer, it seems to me that the article is quite neutral and well referenced and relates to a CEO of a US NYSE listed firm, so has a legitimate reason to remain on Wikipedia?

Redirect to Hill International - My searches found several results such as this and this but essentially he may be best known for Hill International. SwisterTwister talk 06:30, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect - the basic requirement is some significant coverage about himself in independent reliable sources (WP:GNG). Found sources are either focussed on the company, or very short passing mentions and common announcements. Not every successful businessman is automatically notable (in Wikipedia's sense of the term). GermanJoe (talk) 10:10, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 07:22, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ronit Baras

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Appears to fail WP:BIO. The sources are self published or only make a passing mention of the subject, with no discussion about them - just a brief quote, and nothing sufficiently in depth. Her books are self published, and there's nothing that I can dig up pointing to them having enough of an impact to pass WP:AUTHOR. Bilby (talk) 09:44, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I'm not finding good sources on her or on her books. Could be WP:TOOSOON.E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:58, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
delete fails WP:BIO. I also suspect main article editor has conflict of interest. LibStar (talk) 20:21, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Promo, fails GNG and coi article. - Variation 25.2 (talk) 18:11, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 07:19, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Anita Revel

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My searches (News, Books, browser, highbeam, thefreelibrary, The Australian, Sydney Morning Herald and ABC News found noting good and although the article is neat and sourced, there are no signs of improvement. SwisterTwister talk 04:35, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Trove doesn't seem to carry any reviews, either. --110.20.234.69 (talk) 08:52, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The article is too heavily sourced to her website.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:44, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete -Searches produced nothing that could establish notability. ABF99 (talk) 13:13, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, not notable. Kierzek (talk) 13:27, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, not notable unfortunately. ^My^name ^isnot^dave (talk/contribs) 14:27, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:36, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen W. Gee

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WP:AUTHOR a search turned up very little evidence. 1 interview on an anime site? [65] A review of first book at SF Signal [66] Savonneux (talk) 08:45, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, not notable. Kierzek (talk) 13:28, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as stub. --Article editor (talk) 01:25, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. I cannot find anything to show that this author is notable at this point in time. It looks like he's released one self-published book (not including the short story set in the book's universe, which is also self-published) that has not received coverage in any place that Wikipedia considers to be reliable. It exists (and FWIW, I'm probably going to buy it since I like the premise) but that by itself is not enough to show notability. The only source on the page is Goodreads, which is absolutely unusable for notability purposes on Wikipedia. It's not even really usable as even a trivial or database type source since it can be edited by almost anyone, since Goodreads isn't really all that exclusive about who they turn into a librarian. The guy just isn't notable per Wikipedia's guidelines. To warrant even a stub article we'd need enough sources to show that he'd pass WP:NAUTHOR and they just aren't out there. Just existing as an author hasn't been a qualification for notability for years now. If he gains more coverage than what's above then it can be re-created at that point, but the sources just aren't there at this point in time. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 03:35, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Also, neither of the above sources are usable. The SF Signal article isn't actually a review, it's actually an article where Gee is one of several people that are talking about their favorite genre shows of 2014. It's not even an interview where he discusses his work. He does, however, mention that he blogs for Random Curiosity, which is the "interview" linked to above, making it a WP:PRIMARY source - especially since it was published by Gee himself. (He goes under the moniker "Stilts" on the site and the article isn't an interview as much as it's just him telling you why you should read the book.) However I do need to note that even if he wasn't a writer for the site it would still be a self-published source since it looks to be your typical blog. It's a popular one, but it's still a blog and there's really no true editorial oversight there, at least not the type that would pass through Wikipedia's notoriously strict guidelines for RS. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 03:45, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I've also redirected his book's page to his author's page here. He's only really published the one thing, so the book wouldn't pass notability guidelines either. I'd originally redirected it with the expectation that I'd be able to find sourcing for the author's page and then we could maybe justify having one article instead of two, but it doesn't look like either the book or the author currently pass notability guidelines. Don't take this badly, it's just insanely difficult for people and books - especially self-published ones - to pass notability guidelines and there are actually a lot of insanely popular self-published people/books that currently fail notability guidelines. I mean, the Play to Live series is pretty popular and has a fairly decently sized fandom (enough to where the newly released book 5 is #888 in the Kindle store), but it's never received any coverage that would have it pass notability guidelines. It's just that difficult to get that coverage and to pass notability guidelines. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 03:51, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - not enough coverage in RS to be notable. Fyddlestix (talk) 18:45, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Mkdw ^talk 03:06, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Govind Bhargav

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Maybe it's the language and country barriers but I think not as it seems simple from the information that he's not notable and there's not much else; my searches also found nothing at all and this could've been moved elsewhere had there been a target (orphan). SwisterTwister talk 05:37, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Nothing notable at all. Delete per WP:BLP and WP:GNG-- . Shlok _{talk .} 07:24, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MER-C 07:25, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jason Binn

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Long-troubled article that, whether intended or not, looks more like a personal page, and my searches found nothing to suggest meaningful improvement here, here, here, here and here. Although he's accomplished quite a few things, he would probably be best mentioned elsewhere but there's no target (orphan). SwisterTwister talk 05:27, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete; clearly non-notable. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 16:47, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete; I can see nothing particularly notable about this business person. --Derek Andrews (talk) 13:56, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. It's been more than a year since I noted that the article was a puff piece with few sources. I had planned on stubbing this down to the two sentences that are reliably sourced, but figured I'd hold off until I could justify it by a year without the issue being addressed. But frankly, I don't even see notability here, so, delete. TJRC (talk) 18:45, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:36, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Absolution (band)

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First of all, the first AfD's consensus was delete and this was restarted by what appears to be a band member, with no good sources and not to mention it seems the band is no longer together and the website is now closed. My searches found nothing better than this and this. Notifying tagger GoingBatty for comment. There aren't even enough sources to suggest minimal local notability and there's not to much change here. SwisterTwister talk 05:12, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, not notable; does not meet guidelines. Kierzek (talk) 13:29, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - it appears I tagged this in August 2011 with {{COI}} (because a user named Absolutionsinger created the article), {{cleanup}} (maybe because there were a lot of redlinks and copyediting needed?), {{cleanup-link rot}} (because there are a lot of bare URLs) and {{more footnotes}} (because there were a lot of external links that could be used as references). I made no evaluation for notability. Many of the external links are now broken - wonder if looking at archived versions of the pages would help make this decision. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 14:26, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete; no discussion here, blatantly non-notable. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 18:26, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per nom and above editors. Searches returned nothing to show notability. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:49, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Kraxler (talk) 18:35, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Baghdad of Peace

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I'm not exactly inferring this is fabricated but my searches found nothing at all, there's no Arabic Wiki and there are no linking articles (orphan) so I'm not seeing any possible improvement here but maybe it's simply the country and language barriers. Notifying author Soman. SwisterTwister talk 04:50, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, article referenced now. Unfortunately I couldn't find the source for the posting at http://www.ankawa.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/topic.cgi?forum=4&topic=3171 , which has the names of all elected members. --Soman (talk) 14:17, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep The article has six references in total, and it is definitely notable for an article. SuperCarnivore591 (talk) 16:28, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Now sourced. How tragic.E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:16, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:36, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Penelope Probert Boorman

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Non-notable person. Note that the claims that she won medals at the 1959 Pan-Am games and won the Alfred B. Maclay Hunter Seat Championship - or exercised Jackie O's horses, for that matter - appear to be false and fail verification. See this discussion at BLPN. Those claims are sourced to a (very) unreliable source, and much more reliable sources contradict them. Without that, she fails WP:BIO, WP:GNG, etc. Not notable. Fyddlestix (talk) 04:27, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Non-notable person. As noted by Fyddlestix, the claims of three Pan American Games swimming medals appear to have no basis in fact, given that one of the claimed events was not held in 1959, and three other well-known women swimmers won the medals in the other two events. To the extent there is any significant coverage, the remaining sources for the article do not appear to be independent sources, but a collection of alumni publications and the like which cannot be used for establishing notability (and, as noted above, may not be reliable, either). Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 04:46, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, not notable. Kierzek (talk) 13:31, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - per Fyddlestix - who makes the best presentation for deletion. Searches revealed nothing to show this person's notability. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:40, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Mkdw ^talk 16:01, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Perr&Knight

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Not notable firm, and promotional article. � One of the top 20 is a very specialized branch of an industry is not notability. Repeated claims to be the "market leader"without nay documentation for them. Having employees who have professional certification is not notability. Trying to have an article on this basis is promotional. DGG ( talk ) 04:15, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The Ratewatch tool they created is well covered for an industry of 2.5 million employed. To me, this is interesting stuff. I've done a rewrite Talk:Perr&Knight#Tone_suggestions_to_resolve_AfD_nomination_concerns that puts the notability in the lede, offloads a sentence into the infobox and I think changes to the tone. I did put this through AfC, but I've got no COI in this article. --Cheers-- 009o9 (talk) 10:20, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

is there any third party source for that? DGG ( talk ) 20:06, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete no independent sources, they might be known in the insurance trade, but have not acquired any notability Kraxler (talk) 18:30, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete for now until better coverage cancan be achieved and the best results I found were this. SwisterTwister talk 22:05, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - The size of an organization, while taken into account, shouldn't be the sole arbiter of notability. Searches showed nothing which seems to meet the notability criteria. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:35, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 07:14, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Vans Brothers

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This is another classic case of an unsourced article by a SPA from January 2008. I attempted to retrieve both the Scoop.NZ link (archive.org and the Scoop website) and the interview link but to no avail. My searches found nothing good aside from this. At best, if this existed, it was a local garage band. I'm inviting tagger @Calamondin12: for comment. SwisterTwister talk 04:16, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Even if this band existed at all, which is doubtful, its album (The Story of Your Soul), record label (Insurance Good Records) and apparent songs (such as "Clothing World Blues") appear to be hoaxes. If such an album had been "released" in New Zealand in 2006, or if it had ever had a "small fanbase," it would have drawn a fair number of Google hits even with a minor record label. There is also no such place as Leviathan Studios in Auckland. Looks like a clear hoax. Calamondin12 (talk) 12:04, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete appear to be non-existant - nothing coming up in New Zealand searches NealeFamily (talk) 04:51, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Calamondin12. -- Shudde ^talk 08:51, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. The sense of the full discussion is that the subject lack notability established by independent, reliable sources. I also fully endorse the decision to semi protect the discussion given the sock infestation in the first AFD, and the indications that the same might be occurring again. Xymmax ^{So let it be written} _{So let it be done} 23:02, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Johan Matton

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Non notable actor, recreation of page deleted previously via discussion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Johan_Matton Kavdiamanju (talk) 19:23, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Please read deletion page or talk page if having a concern with the article instead of placing it for speedy deletion. Many contributors/user have worked on this article and added notable news articles regarding Johan Matton's notabilty. Non commercial aspects has also been deleted. And there is a Swedish version of the page. seems like user https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kavdiamanju might have an outside agenda or missed checking the contribution history for this article. Johan Matton was concisered a notable topic and the article has been polished several times by many users. The discussion of this article to be deleted seem non relevant as many larger improvements and additions has been made since it's creation.

Not sure if Kavdiamanju has missed the history contributions or has an agenda. The Article Johan Matton has been updated the last 3 months by several news articles and a link to a recent TV interview. More han 10 separate contributors/users has added news regardig Johan Matton being notable. Worth taking a look at the article and read through.

The article has also been polished several times and commercial aspects has been deleted. There is also a Swedish Wikipedia regarding the topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.56.19.146 (talk) 19:13, 4 August 2015 (UTC) — 172.56.19.146 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Delete This low-quality source was the best I could find that provides anywhere near substantial coverage of the subject. There are two extremely brief mentions in Aftonbladet [67] [68] but other than that the sources are all primary sources (film festivals, imdb etc.). WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG are therefore not met. SmartSE (talk) 20:07, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep http://www.kens5.com/videos/entertainment/television/great-day-sa/2015/07/31/till-we-meet-again/30935427/ seem to be a 5 minute segment on Johan Matton aired July 30th on CBS / Kens 5 Good Morning SA which after a quick check has 2 million viewers. The link is included in the article. http://lt.se/kulturnoje/1.2931451-nykvarnbo-siktar-hogt-i-new-york is a full article on Johan Matton in Swedish news paper. The subjects notable awards and recognition within the field of independent film and acting seems to have strong coverage and sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:F1E6:ED00:FC7E:741:E73C:8780 (talk) 20:28, 4 August 2015 (UTC) — 2604:2000:F1E6:ED00:FC7E:741:E73C:8780 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Comment the previous (read: 1st) AfD drew many socks and IP voters, so I have added a tag (potentially preemptively). Primefac (talk) 20:47, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep I don't know how to formulate me within wikipedia standards for arguing an article so I merely ask for the judging of this article to read through the whole article and look at the references. Especially view the full interview with the subject: http://www.kens5.com/videos/entertainment/television/great-day-sa/2015/07/31/till-we-meet-again/30935427/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swedish Journalist (talk • contribs) 05:09, 8 August 2015 (UTC) — Swedish Journalist (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

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Please more experienced Wikipedia users, read through and judge following articles. I found these 6 references Interviewing or writing direct related article regarding the subject on top of the indirect ones: Good Morning SA: http://www.kens5.com/story/entertainment/2015/07/31/till-we-meet-again/30936177/ Interview for a pod cast: http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/brian-decicco/boat-over-the-mountain/e/interview-with-john-matton-til-we-meet-again-38089478 Swedish news Paper Article/Interview http://lt.se/kulturnoje/1.2931451-nykvarnbo-siktar-hogt-i-new-york Fan page Article http://www.fansshare.com/news/johan-matton-career-in-2013/ Press release? The B I Z was taken apart here because wikipedia did not approve on that ending, to read article please put it together. http://www.filmindustrynetwork.b i z/till-we-meet-again-world-premiere-at-san-antonio-film-festival/29338 Interview https://sv.stagepool.com/nyfiken_pa/6947/det_ar_valdigt_manga_nej_pa_ett_ja Interview http://archive.is/qXdXI — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:F1E6:ED00:501F:197D:EB60:BC83 (talk) 02:34, 13 August 2015 (UTC) — 2604:2000:F1E6:ED00:501F:197D:EB60:BC83 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Keep - with some margin this article passe WP:GNG. It is clear that this actor has had a few important roles. And it is sourced.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:51, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - This article passes WP:GNG. There is no question the actor in this matter has had some parts of significance and that the actors has won a few awards. Sourced with good references and some less important references. I admit that a more thorough search had to be made with his nick name mentioned in the article. The two more important references would be the Kens5 Good Morning SA interview http://www.kens5.com/story/entertainment/2015/07/31/till-we-meet-again/30936177/ and a Swedish interview http://lt.se/kulturnoje/1.2931451-nykvarnbo-siktar-hogt-i-new-york≤/. A side mention is that the article is far from an Orphan article with many direct linked articles.

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Sources form the Nordic Film Festival is really telling. Clearly notable per GNG. --BabbaQ (talk) 19:35, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There are a number of different nordic film festivals - Canada, London, Los Angeles. This particular one [69] is in New York and is in its first year (as of 2015). In fact, its first awards have not yet been given. LaMona (talk) 20:29, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Mainly too soon. A lot of what is here would be considered to be original research, since most links are to directly related sites like web sites for the movies themselves. I looked at nearly every reference, and found only one (#4) that might be considered a minor but reliable third-party reference. Here is what I conclude about the others:
- Not RS (not third-party resources, or not reliable) 1, 2, 8, 17-19, 25, 29
- Only mentions: 5-7, 9-13, 16
- No mention: 14, 15, 32
- Minor awards, mostly "also rans": 3, 7, 20-21 LaMona (talk) 17:26, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep - He hasn't had that many roles so far, but it does appear that he's received a general amount of coverage (including 'also rans', which are still at least party notable) that he passes the bar as far as notability goes. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 08:25, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Mainly per LaMona, because subject does not meet GNG or relevant specific notability guidelines. Winning an award is not notable unless it's a major award, and a new indie festival award does not fall into that category. Plenty of otherwise NN people win awards on the indie circuit. Thus far, he's got news coverage and a few bit parts, and everything else is non-contributory. MSJapan (talk) 18:32, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete (but copy in user draft space) - Per LaMona, I don't think the coverage of the subject is strong enough to merit an article at this point in time... however, I think is quite possible that the subject will gain more substantial coverage in the future. When that occurs, it would be a shame to have to start completely over on a new article. So... I would recommend choosing a volunteer custodian, copy the current article into his/her user space... contributors can then monitor the sources, work on the article as a "draft"... and present it again when it passes muster. Blueboar (talk) 18:58, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Doesn't have a lot of roles or reliable sources. Best known role is either a minor role in an episode of a TV show, or a movie he wrote, produced, and starred in and won a few awards at one film festival. May have been too soon for this article to have been made. Wait until he has more film roles before determining notability. Aerospeed (Talk) 23:05, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete per WP:SNOW. I'm actually surprised that this wasn't deleted sooner as sheer promotional puffery. Since it's been around since 2011 and looks to be a clear hoax (in that the family in the article did not exist and was created to promote a fairly non-notable Halloween attraction, I'm going to archive it as a hoax at Wikipedia:List of hoaxes on Wikipedia. No need to drag this out, considering that the consensus to delete is fairly clear. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:08, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Vanderdark Morgue

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I was able to retrieve the two dead links here and here but it's minimal at most and this all seems more like local folklore with unsourced claims and a Halloween-like story. My searches found nothing aside from here. I'm inviting taggers @Calamondin12 and Mattgirling:. SwisterTwister talk 03:59, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - I've wondered if this article was a joke even as I did a few edits. I'm thinking this is a made-up Halloween story that turned into (at best) folklore. But certainly none of these sources are serious, and so this article must go. I doubt anyone would miss it. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 04:13, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Stevietheman, thanks for commenting. I saw you in the history but I don't usually notify people with cleaning and other passing edits but now that I look, you've would've been a good one to notify as you made recurring edits. I'm assuming you had this part of your watchlist. :) SwisterTwister talk 04:24, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It wasn't on my personal watchlist, but I monitor the Louisville and Kentucky project watchlists, and I have a script that makes prods/xfDs show up in a vivid color. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 04:36, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete ~~Keep and re-name Baxter Avenue Morgue~~ as that name is what it currently is. Has been written up quite extensively in books and articles spanning many years.[70][71][72][73] CHANGED to "Delete" as the article in its current form is hardly about the Baxter Avenue Morgue, although I wouldn't be opposed to an article about that topic being created as long as its properly sourced. --Oakshade (talk) 01:43, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Nearly all the current content would have to be wiped out to make way for a serious article. On top of that, three of these sources are very local and the remaining one non-authoritative -- they need to be more spread out for this to be considered notable. At best, a new article could be created given additional usable sources can be located. Then, this page could redirect to that article. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 06:12, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The basic problem with this ghost story of Faulknerian complexity is that the article is fiction presented as reality. A few of the more plainly demonstrable examples:
- Although the extreme southern segment of Baxter Avenue was once called Von Borries Avenue, the block on which the morgue is located has always been Baxter Avenue, as this 1884 map from the University of Louisville shows. The address "451 Von Borries Avenue" has never existed.
- Victor Vanderdark is described as "very much a public figure," yet his supposed disappearance in 1932 is never mentioned in any reliable sources.
- The surnames Vanderdark and Pongieu appear to have no use outside this article. Figures central to the story like "Caspar Vanderdark" generate no Google hits at all apart from the article.

Clearly, many other implausible statements exist throughout the article, but these facts should help demonstrate the obvious: This article is fiction, made up to provide a backstory for a local Halloween attraction in Louisville. Over the years, fictitious articles presented as fact to support a real-life entity have been deleted as hoaxes - see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gray McKenzie, Wikipedia:List of hoaxes on Wikipedia/The Tarsus Club, Wikipedia:List of hoaxes on Wikipedia/Yuri Gadyukin and Wikipedia:List of hoaxes on Wikipedia/3G Boyz for examples, along with this noticeboard discussion on the Tarsus Club hoax and this AfD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yuri Gadyukin. Calamondin12 (talk) 12:51, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:36, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

V-Jay's Verghjesles

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The listed sources never mention this and my searches found nothing at all and you've expected at least minimal improvement since January 2011 (started by SPA). I'm inviting taggers @Calamondin12, Ironholds, and Dusti: for comment. SwisterTwister talk 03:49, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Limited production non-notable amplifier by bankrupt non-notable firm. The article itself argues for deletion: "References to the V-Jazz are limited online as of this. However, high street knowledge of the unit still exists, and many still sell on online markets." I am sorry, but "street knowledge" does not establish notability. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:57, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. This looks like a clear hoax. To begin, "Verghjesles" does not appear to be a real word, and has no Google hits outside of this article, mirrors and word sites that pull random words from sources like Wikipedia. No references are found for anything else associated with this article, such as the Which? magazine review or recommendation from Sony. Numerous technical specifications mentioned in the article ("Sabre ADC 970012," "Sylvania 6932," "Texas Instruments Type R") do not exist. CanJam 2010 was held in Chicago, not Provo. The article also lacks internal consistency. Although the product was supposedly "unveiled at CanJam 2010," the next paragraph says the company "filed for type-14 bankruptcy in 2008, effectively ending the company and stopping all production of the V-Jazz." Incidentally, "type 14 bankruptcy" also does not exist. Calamondin12 (talk) 12:16, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - as per nom and above editors. Clear hoax. Current external links do not mention it, searches turned up nothing. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 14:41, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 00:36, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Avenger of Blood

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From what I am seeing, this subject fails WP:MUSICBIO. The two references on the article thus far look like web sites where personal pages can be created by themselves, so it looks as though the information that was cited on both references is probably self-published. Also, on search engines, the search "Avenger of Blood" provides results for the biblical concept and the Marvel comics group, while "Avenger of Blood band" only returns results for pages the are the equivalent of self-published sources (band sites, "MySpace", etc) and no sources for this subject in any "news" search results. Steel1943 (talk) 03:26, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete This is an article about a non-notable heavy metal band that includes several non-encyclopedic sentences like "Upon its release the band not only received great reviews, but showed them also that the path they were gonna take was well in place." No reviews are cited. And then we have this gem of encyclopedic prose: "After a 3-year break, the band is reorganizing and preparing for its next assault that will be harsher, angrier, and more insane all around!" I wonder what a "Manual of style" purist would say about that exclamation point? My point is that there is nothing worth saving here. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:04, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The current content of the article is not a strong argument on whether an article should be deleted or not. As long as the article could be fixed by someone, it should remain.--Retrohead (talk) 18:18, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator comment: Retrohead, that is in no way the basis for my deletion nomination of this article. There are no references from third-party sources that meet the requirements for this subject to be notable per WP:MUSICBIO. An article that has no credible references cannot be improved by anyone since there are no third-party references that confirm the subject's notability; in other words, this is not an issue of editors not wanting to improve the article, but rather editors can't fix the article. Steel1943 (talk) 18:37, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't fully agree. Here's the band interviewed by Revolver, here's the band interviewed by Terrorizer, and there is dozen of interviews by not-so-notable websites (The Metal Crypt, All Access Magazine, Metalmark, etc.) which were generated by Google and could be easily used for expanding the biography.--Retrohead (talk) 20:51, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please be aware, Retrohead, that interviews are not independent sources, and by themselves, do not establish notability. Please focus on explaining specifically how this particular band meets our notability guideline for bands. So far, I do not see the evidence of notability. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:59, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean by independent sources? In my two year wiki tenure, I've never met that term. Regarding the issue in hand, Avenger of Blood is not an important band as Iron Maiden or Def Leppard, and you won't find them in rock encyclopedias. However, the band has interviews, album and concert reviews by the heavy metal press and I think there is something to be written about them.--Retrohead (talk) 18:04, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Retrohead, the General notability guideline requires coverage in reliable, independent sources. Please read Wikipedia:Independent sources for in depth discussion of what this means. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:12, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion, this sounds akin to a WP:ILIKEIT statement; just because you feel as though this band needs an article on Wikipedia doesn't make the subject encyclopedic. Before I nominated this article, I searched for credible sources or information that could help this band establish notability per WP:MUSICBIO (which I highly recommend you read, if you haven't yet; it provides links for information about "independent" sources, "third-party" sources, etc.), and I could not find any; all information I found were as mentioned above: either self-published material on "band sites", or interviews from sources that are not credible in regards to establishing notability in an encyclopedia. That, and as you stated above: ...you won't find them in rock encyclopedias..., if this subject is not even mentioned in "rock encyclopedias" (whose notability requirements are probably not as strict as a multi-subject encyclopedia due to only allowing a specific genre of subjects), then how do you believe that this band is notable enough for inclusion here? Steel1943 (talk) 19:02, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It fullfils point 5 from the criteria for musicians and ensembles, with two studio albums on major label–Heavy Artillery. Second thing, album reviews are independent sources, and band interviews may not be independent, but count as reliable because the magazines are shipped worldwide and have editorial overview.--Retrohead (talk) 12:47, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if a label can be considered a "major label" if the label itself is not an encyclopedic subject. When I did a search for "heavy artillery", I only received results for the weaponry. In fact, WP:MUSICBIO itself refers to "major labels" as is referenced in major record labels, and there seems to be only six (now three due to absorptions) that are considered "major record labels" for the WP:MUSICBIO notability criteria. Steel1943 (talk) 00:34, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You can consider it an indie labels, as it has a roster of artists (in the link above) and exist more than a few years.--Retrohead (talk) 12:16, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WP:MUSICBIO also states that for an artist on an indie label to be considered notable, the label has to have ...a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable.... Per a look at their artist list, I don't believe that any of their artists are independently notable. Steel1943 (talk) 12:43, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - only coverage I could find was on niche blogs and such. Not a notable group. Fyddlestix (talk) 18:49, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Closed with no prejudice against speedy renomination. (non-admin closure) Mz7 (talk) 00:57, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thunaivan

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Fails WP:NFILM Flat Out (talk) 02:34, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:INDAFD: Thunaivan "Thunaivan 1969" "Thunaivan Tamil" "M. A. Thirumugam" "A. V. M. Rajan" "Sowkar Janaki" "K. V. Mahadevan"

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Keep even though this is a pre-internet Indian film, and difficult to source, WP:BEFORE shows the involvement of Tamil notables and the topic meeting WP:NF. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 04:43, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Courcelles (talk) 20:19, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

39/20 Alliance

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No third party sources beyond news indicating notability, no similar alliances to establish precedent. 117Avenue (talk) 02:12, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Organization of purely local notability, with little substance beyond cursory documentation of its existence, and not nearly enough sourcing, to suggest any reason why an international encyclopedia should maintain an article about it. Of the sources cited here, half are primary sources which cannot confer notability, and the other half are local community newsweeklies that aren't widely distributed enough to satisfy WP:GNG if they're the best you can do for sourcing. An organization like this might clear the bar if it accomplished something that was getting it into the Calgary Herald, The Province, the Toronto Star or The Globe and Mail on a regular basis — but if the Leduc Rep is your strongest possible source, then you just haven't satisfied Wikipedia's inclusion standards. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 16:17, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete this article about a non-notable intermunicipal economic development alliance. Hwy43 (talk) 05:01, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I agree with nominator's reasosns above. New Media Theorist (talk) 05:29, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep per WP:SNOW. (non-admin closure) Kraxler (talk) 18:27, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Lonnie Lynn

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Delete: as non-notable. Doesn't derive notability as the father of rapper Common. Quis separabit? 01:47, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep While he may not derive notability as the father of Common, he does meet WP:NBASKETBALL from his season in the original ABA. That notability guideline is only meant to be a rule of thumb on whether GNG is likely met, but based on that guideline, there is a reasonable chance that the article can be cleaned up with sources focusing on his basketball career, even though with his career ending over 40 years ago, you might have to find them in old newspaper archives. SCMatt33 (talk) 20:59, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Meets WP:NBASKETBALL having played in the original American Basketball Association. Also meets GNG, incidentally. Rikster2 (talk) 00:47, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep As noted above, he is notable as a basketball player. Notability is not temporary.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:59, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I concur. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:47, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep as a WP:NBASKETBALL pass. Ejgreen77 (talk) 06:59, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep He played in the original ABA, thus passing NBASKETBALL. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 22:49, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete. Clearly no value, and its existence is causing issues with vandalism elsewhere. Black Kite (talk) 13:51, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Phan (ship)

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Unremarkable "shipping" name, the result of fan speculation. Hardly worth a mention in the subjects' own articles, Definitely not worth its own article. Just doesn't quite fit into a speedy category. --Non-Dropframe _talk 01:18, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete despite astounding quantity of fan-generated material on this. The closest approximation to a source I can find is newmediarockstars.com, a WP:TABLOIDy website which wrote a brief blurb about Howell and Lester's launch of a joint YouTube channel, and included "PHAN" as one of a dozen tags. It's possible that a future RS will take enough notice of the phenomenon for a mention to be added to the subjects' respective articles. FourViolas (talk) 04:02, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete There might be enough to write a somewhat spun-out article about Howell and Lester's joint achievements (radio show, joint gaming channel, upcoming book and tour) that would be less appropriate to main at either one article, but the shipping is not deserving an article now, and at most a redirect to a Reception/Influence section later. 野狼院ひさし u/t/c 06:01, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Although their generic presence of them as internet celebrities are quite notable, an article about this so-called closer-than-people-think relationship is unnecessary and very gossipy. A section on Dan and Phil about their internet adventures in general is something that would be more appropriate. ^My^name ^isnot^dave (talk/contribs) 14:22, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - And I recommend that this matter be closed soon. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:38, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - No encyclopedic value whatsoever. General Ization ^Talk 13:06, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. MER-C 07:24, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nahas Ahmed Khalil

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Does not meet the notability guideline Ibrahim Husain Meraj (talk) 01:16, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: as non-notable functionary. Quis separabit? 14:42, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, no claim of notability. Cavarrone 09:28, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - searches reveal nothing which meets the notability criteria. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 14:24, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete definitely not notable. SuperCarnivore591 (talk) 16:27, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - run of the mill architect, no reliable sources. His family might be notable, but not him. Bearian (talk) 15:18, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] Aguilar, Frank (April 30, 1992). General Managers in Action: Policies and Strategies (Second ed.). Oxford University Press. p. 186, 489-490, 504. ISBN 0195073673.

[2] Aguilar, Francis (May 12, 1994). Managing Corporate Ethics: Learning from America's Ethical Companies How to Supercharge Business Performance (First Printing ed.). Oxford University Press. p. 11.

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